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Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented
by fan Tracks, your source of information

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and analysis to help you win your
fantasy hockey league. Fuck off, that's

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a step hit on, stay lost, goshoot. Here's your hosts, Jesse

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sup Here and Victor Nuno Fantasy Hockey
Live back to talk fantasy hockey draft around

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the corner. And so I am
Jesse Severe fan Tracks and joining me a

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man who's ready to draft, if
he hasn't already drafted all the teams that

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exist in fantasy hockey. It is
Victor Nuno, Dapper prospects. Victor,

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how you doing. I'm doing well, Jesse. It's yeah, there are

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so many drafts going on. In
fact, I got looped into doing a

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couple more leagues with the ep Rinkside
team. Cam was like, Hey,

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we're gonna do this fantasy league.
Gus as one of the Fantasy contributors.

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I feel like I have to,
right, you gotta be part of that.

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And then the strangest thing that happen
and I have never had the first

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overall pick in a league since ever, So I got Connor McDavid, which

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is both great and terrible because then
you're waiting. This league has twenty four

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teams, so you're waiting several dozen
picks for the next one. And I

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feel like the teams that get McDavid
don't usually win right like that. This

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seems like a thing like I don't
see that happening very often. It didually

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the teams close for the middle,
like four through nine or something. What

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do you think about that, Jesse, And how are you? Yeah,

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I'm great, I'm great. And
that is an interesting point, I would

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say. And I didn't do any
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I have to think that the teams
that got Connor McDavid last year probably fared

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a little bit better than they had
in previous years because Connor McDavid put up

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the video game numbers as opposed to
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But nonetheless, yeah, it's a
long wait. And I hear people talking

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about liking to pick on quote the
wheel, being able to take two picks.

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I think that's insane. I'm totally
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I much prefer when I can take
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no, I never have to watch
like all the guys disappear before I pick.

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It's never that long. Until I
pick again. But congratulations on your

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mcdaviting. Yeah, it's actually interesting
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the way Cam set it up.
You could pick any player like any options,

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and so I was basically going Connor
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the Dard, but I was like, ah, that's crazy at one point

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one. But of course Cam took
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he wasn't gonna last that long.
Wait, this was a redraft or a

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dynasty. It's like a soft dynasty. There are only four minor spots,

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so not that many. But it's
an inaugural draft, so you could take

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anyone, so anyone's eligible. So
there haven't been too many young, unproven

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guys yet. But we're still in
the first round. It's saying forever because

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there are people all over the world
for that work at EP so a lot

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of people are Norway and Sweden,
Finland, so the times are a little

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weird. It's gonna it's gonna take
a long time, but it's gonna be

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fun. It's yeah, it's hard
if you're on the other side of the

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world to keep up with hockey conversations. One place you could do it,

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though, Victor. One place you
could do it is in our discord because

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there are people from all over the
world in there, and I imagine awake

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at insane hours. There's just all
kinds of posting in there. I would

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recommend hopping in there if you want
a community of hockey fans to go back

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and forth with all your and it
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Join the discord by email and Fantasy
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Victor. We'll get you the code
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all there is to it, Victor. That is not the only thing though,

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that is with this podcast. We
also have a Patreon. Why don't

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you tell people what we have available
there? Yeah, lots of great stuff

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there. We have our Patron Priority
channel where you can get really extensive exclusive

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answers and you can as a patron
DMI if a lot of people are finding

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that their team league mates everywhere,
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advice. You can also get our
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There's top ten lists that are being
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stuff and the Tidy, which is
our league that we're doing, is full

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now, but you can get your
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to compete. Next year we'll open
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so definitely get in on that.
And if you just enjoy the support

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you can find all our cool stuff
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Prospect and it is Dabber Day today
because Victor, You've got an additional very

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special announcement to make, don't you. That's right. Yeah. Definitely happy

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to still be over at Dauber and
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there and contributing in a couple different
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are really fantastic. You get the
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get the spreadsheet with all the ranks, so definitely do that. All you

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So definitely gotta check that out. Victor.

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I sense you have something else to
say before we get to the interview

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today. What is it? Yeah, just one more thing. I wanted

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to mention that my work has taken
me up to the Vancouver area and we're

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gonna meet up a bunch of us
that are in leagues together, a bunch

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of us that in the league that
you and I that you started years ago.

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I've been a lot of people are
from the Vancouver areas. I've already

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connected with some of them. We're
going to go to a Vancouver Giants Kamloops

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Blazers game, which would be fun, and so any of you that are

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in the area and want to join
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fun. So this is November third
through sixth ish, so if you're in

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that area, hit me up.
I'd love to say hi. If it

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works out great, We'll be right
back after this to get into some late

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round picks. Very pleased to be
joined today by our brethren over there at

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Jobber Hockey. It is Michael Clifford
aka Slim Cliffy on X. Michael.

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How you doing today? Doing pretty
good? Beautiful weather this weekend. We

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had that hurricane land here last weekend
ended up not being too bad. It

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was just more a lot of rain
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beautiful sunshine and nice enough weather where
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to enjoy as much of it as
I can. Are you up in Wait?

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Wait where did the hurricane land?
I'm oblivious to this the Maritimes.

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I'm in New Brunswick on the east
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the east in the last twelve to
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landed more Nova Scotia and we just
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for Nova Scotia, but good for
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So we're super excited to have you
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delivered is we would like some guys. We wanted to talk about some sort

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of light round steals, right,
so thinking redrafts, guys that are going

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after around ten and when the twelve
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value here and some guys that can
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And also maybe some of these guys
in your keeper dynasty you might want

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to trade for maybe they have some
untapped hidden upside. So that's a premise

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of how we want to kind of
frame these. Trying to find some late

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some gems for everyone, and so
we'll go through these. We haven't broken

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down into guys from the West and
the East. So we'll start in the

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West, and we'll start with one
of my absolute favorite players, and that's

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Bow and buy him. And he
shot fifteen percent last year, which is

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a pretty interesting stat from his forty
two games played, burying him off established

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himself with a full NHL season.
He keeps getting injured, but he did

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successfully increase both his time on ice
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buy him and with that increase,
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Well, we might expect a smidgelower
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is safe to expect to continue to
grow from every other column if he can

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manage a full or near full season, which has been difficult, plus the

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twenty minutes plus time on ice.
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Byrom? He seems I actually know
you just wrote an article about this,

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if I'm not mistaken, so I
know you're very familiar. And let us

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know what we can maybe expect from
byronim even though he's so talented, is

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he ever really going to fully deliver
on the goods with what he can produce?

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Mike, Yeah, shameless plug time. I did have an article about

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bow and Byrom up at Elite Prospects
rinksidep rinkside dot com for anybody that's remember

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over there, had that go up
on Tuesday, And obviously the first thing

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that, like you mentioned is the
concussions. You just got to hope that

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he's it's something that he can move
past. We saw that with Sidney Crosby

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a decade ago, right, It
took him pretty much a year and a

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half two years to get right,
and then after that he never really had

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issues. So let's hope it's the
same thing for by him. Aside from

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that, he just really jumped out
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on a team with Nathan McKinnon and
Kale mccarr and all those guys. He

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was a guy I found was noticeable
basically game in and game out. And

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if you dig into some of his
tracking numbers, Cory Sneger tracks zone entries

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and types of passes and things like
that. If you look at what Byrom

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does, it's he does a little
bit of everything, and what he does

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is exceptional. He's exceptional at entering
the offensive zone with control of the puck,

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which isn't something a lot of defensemen
do. There are defensemen that will

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move the puck out of their zone
but not necessarily be the ones to carry

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it in. He does that quite
a bit, and that makes them almost

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like a fourth forward at times more
rather than a defenseman on the blue line.

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I think that's why he had double
digits shooting percentages in both in both

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the last two seasons. He's getting
himself into good shooting positions. So that's

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one thing that immediately stood out for
me with Byrom, And the other thing

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is a lot of people might I
shouldn't say a lot of people. Some

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people might assume that his inflated per
minute point rates right, like he doesn't

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have huge point totals because he typically
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But on a per minute basis,
he's typically been very good, like

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easily a number one defenseman by production. And what's easy to think it might

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just be a product of playing with
Nathan McKinnon and Miko Ranton and all that,

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But when I looked at his numbers, even if you take out all

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the minutes he's played with Nathan McKinnon, he's still produced at a top pair

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rate for defenseman. So all you're
waiting for is for him to getting up

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to nearly twenty two minutes last season
was nice. Hopefully he can get up

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to twenty three or twenty four this
year. We'll find out. I have

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my doubts, but we'll find out. So there's just a lot of good

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here, a lot of offensive talent, and like I said, it's something

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that can turn him into a fourth
forward on the ice. Obviously, there

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are a lot of problems in the
fantasy game though, number one being Kale

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mccarr. It's great that they're both
on the same team. I'm sure Avalanche

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fans are pretty happy with that,
but it provides that immediate roadblock for power

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play one time at any point in
the next three or four years. Right,

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So unless Kale mccarr gets seriously injured
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with a three four two defenseman set
up, barronim's not getting top power play

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time anytime soon. Like we're looking
at twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven,

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and with the NHL's increased focus on
power play efficiency and power play opportunities

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and all that, you need those
power play points from a defenseman, like

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you'll have very few real high end
fantasy defenseman with nine power play points or

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eleven power play points or something like
that. They're all up and around twenty

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five now, So until he gets
that time, he won't reach his fantasy

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upside. And then the other problem
is his shot volume. Like he does

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get himself into good shooting because Asians, but he doesn't create a lot of

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shots himself, and that's a good
thing for the team. I think on

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a team with all that quality of
forwards, you want the forwards taking the

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shots, not the defenseman. But
that's not what we want in the fantasy

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games. So it's that divergent thing
where I think Byron. I think right

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now he's a top pairer defenseman and
it gives Colorado arguably the best top four

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defenseman in the league. But until
until he starts shooting more, he won't

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have a lot of value in fantasy
for the next few years. And until

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he can get that top power play
role, he won't reach his fantasy upside.

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So it's one of those things where
he's just going to be a lot

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more valuable in real life than he
will be in the fantasy game. Yeah.

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No, I totally agree with that, and it is I'm sure all

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Avalanche fans and coaches are like,
shoot more, right, But like you

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said, he creates so many opportunities, and I agree with you too.

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I think in that Cup he was
the X factor. I'm not saying he

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was the best player, but he
was the X factor, Like he was

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the one that no one could match
up against because of the incredible depth and

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all of that. Yeah, but
I do think he has had two seasons

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now very low games played, but
close to a fifty point pace, and

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I feel like he can He has
the talent to get over that if he

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shoots a little bit more, gets
a little bit smid more of the power

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play time, and maybe they put
him up there as a fourth forward type

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of slot on the power play.
That's not inconceivable, but I think the

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upside is there right in order to
take taking him a little bit later,

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you could be really rewarded. Especially. The other thing is that mccarr has

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also not been someone who can stay
completely healthy. Yeah, exactly, And

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that's why there will be times when
Barram has tremendous fantasy value because if mccarr,

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let's say he pulls a hamstring and
he's out for three weeks. Those

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three weeks, Bain barm is probably
a top fifteen fantasy defenseman, right,

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it's just can you draft him knowing
that maybe you get fifteen games the top

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power play time and then the rest
of the time he just gets very little.

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It's just a matter of is there
any upside to that pick? Because

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I was king at his ADP and
underdog Fantasy, which they do best balls,

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and it's maybe it's not the best
for season long fantasy gauge in gauging,

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but they have done a lot of
drafts, so there's some reliable ADP

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data, and he's going just inside
the top fifty defenseman, and I think

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that's good value. But I'm wondering
how much higher can he get them the

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twenty fifth or thirtieth defenseman, right, even if he gets fifteen games of

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top power play time, just because
there are guys that will get seventy or

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seventy five or eighty games of that, and even in Colorado, it's just

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not enough to make up the difference. It's that thing where I don't think

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it's bad value, but I don't
think it's one of those guys where unless

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mccarr suffers a serious injury where we're
looking back at the end of the season

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and wondering how did baum Byron end
up the number seventh fantasy defenseman. I

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don't think that's something that's going to
happen. Next up Jamie Drysdale. I

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can't think of the last guy,
at least in my world, who went

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from the chosen one to an afterthought
more quickly than this Anaheim defenseman. He's

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a tough one because he only played
eight games last year, suffered a shoulder

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injury at the beginning of the season. Surgery took him out for the year.

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No points in those eight games.
We do like to talk about a

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couple of hot defensive prospects coming up
in the rearview mirror on Anaheim who maybe

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could overtake Drysdale for a role.
Some would say he didn't get very much

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bash, block shots, hits in
his one full season prior to last year,

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either touted prospect coming in to a
team on the upswing. I know

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a recent thirty two thought spot they
were interviewing Troy Terry and he predicted that

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Drysdale would be a breakout, if
not the breakout on this team this year.

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What do you expecting from Drysdale this
year? What makes him one of

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what of your targets. Yeah,
I think the first thing to mention about

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him is the fact that in his
rookie season, when he actually did play

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a lot of games, he played
more minutes in a four forward, one

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defenseman power play set up than anybody
else on the roster. And that's when

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Kevin Shattenkirk was still there. And
obviously they they used Cam Fowler on the

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power play. He was playing more
forward one defenseman power play minutes than either

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of those guys, so obviously they
saw something in him, even as a

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rookie two years ago, different GM, different coaching staff and all that.

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So he has to prove himself all
over again. But even with Kevin shaddon

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Kirk at the stage that he was
of his career, and with Cam Fowler

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not being a high end offensive defenseman, for a rookie to step in and

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take those top power play minutes right
away should tell us a lot about what

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that coaching staff thought of him.
Now that coaching staff to get fired.

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Maybe not the ideal expert opinion,
but I'm always a big proponent of how

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is this player being used? More
than relying strictly on my scouting abilities,

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because I have to assume they are
going to be cases, maybe a lot

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of cases where the coaching staff is
going to see a lot more from the

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player than I will. And if
they saw power play one ability and him

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as a rookie two years ago,
I have to think they're going to use

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him power play one again this season. Maybe it's not right out of the

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gate. Maybe Cam Fowler gets sometimes
get Drysdale east in under a new coach

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was there's some new players that weren't
around a couple of years ago, those

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types of things. But I certainly
expect by the end of the season for

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Drysdale to have the most power play
minutes per game of anybody on this team.

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And he's just one of those guys
that can do it all at such

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a young age, and not all
of it is too an elite level yet,

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but when you see the building blocks
starting, he's good in transition,

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he has good playmaking data. He
was solid defensively even on even as a

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rookie on a pretty terrible Ducks team. There was just a lot of good.

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Not a ton of great, but
just a lot of good. And

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when you have a lot of good
as a rookie defenseman on a bad team

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like that, I think that speaks
volumes as well him playing as well as

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he did as a rookie, and
I think when you talk about forgotten prospects,

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I think part of it is you're
playing in Anaheim, right. The

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Anaheim Ducks have just been a very
bad team for about four or five years

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now. They're on the West Coast, games at eleven thirty at night where

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I live ten thirty Eastern, So
there's just not a lot of people that

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season. If you're even if you're
a big hockey fan, if you have

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to get up for work at six
in the morning, you're not staying up

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until one am to watch the Anaheim
Ducks, you know what I mean.

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I just think a lot of people
just haven't weren't able to watch him play.

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And it's tough to heap praise on
players for a bottom five team in

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the league, no matter how well
they play. So I think it's a

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confluence of things. Where he was
a rookie, so obviously he won't get

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as much shine as maybe some veterans. It was a bad team, there's

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been some tumultuous offseason stuff between the
coaches and the GMS and all that.

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I think there's just been so much
stuff going on, being with him only

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playing eight games last year, it's
easier to forget about him. But I

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guess I agree with Troy Terry.
I think by the end of the season,

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people are going to look back and
wonder how they missed this breakout season

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from Jamie Drysdale coming by the same
token as you mentioned when we were talking

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about Ball and Byram, and again
here with Drysdale is the peripheral numbers aren't

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there yet, and that's a that's
a big problem in fantasy. But if

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you have goals, assist power,
play, points, shots, hits,

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and blocks, peripherals are half the
categories in your league, right. He

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can't be a negative drag there and
expect to have a lot of fantasy values.

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I think he could break out and
have the forty five point season or

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something like that this year. I'm
just not sure that the peripherals would be

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there for a really good fantasy season
in those multiicat formats anybody that's playing points

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only leagues. Like I said,
I do think he can have a forty

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five point season. I was just
looking at my projections right before we came

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on. I have him for forty
one and I think there's upside beyond that.

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It's just a matter of Kenny bring
the shots and the blocks and the

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hits. We didn't see that in
his rookie season, we didn't see much

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of it in his brief stint last
year. We had to see it before

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we can believe it, and young
guys will grow into that role. But

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he's one of those guys where I
wouldn't be shocked if he has forty five

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points, but he's not a top
forty defenseman in multiicat leagues because he just

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won't put up the peripherals to do
it. Definitely always an issue with Drysdale,

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and yeah, I'm eager to see
how he does. He has it's

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been hard to separate the terribleness of
the Ducks with the potential of Drysdale,

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so I'm emager to see. Hopefully
that will change. But one guy who

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does usually bring the PRIs is the
next guy we're going to talk about,

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and that's Naz and Cadre. And
a lot has been said about Calgary season

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last year, breaking in all the
about all the wrong ways it could have.

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It's hard to address players on that
roster without acknowledging a coaching change,

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which seems to be in that positive. But from a dynasty perspective, the

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supporting cast round Cadre continue to hold
someone certainty, I would say, most

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substantially the powerplay one linement alias Lindholm. There's some lesser known quantities that may

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be able to crack the lineup soon
that I'm excited about, like Peltier and

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Coronado both could get some time on
Cadre's wing. Last season, Cadre played

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all eighty two games for only the
second time in his career, and where

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his points were points per game were
effectively right around his career average of point

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six eight. And the new and
a year of building coming to you with

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Hubertou and Anderstand on the power play, maybe that can improve a little bit.

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But what do you think we can
expect from Caudri in his second year

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wearing that see in Calgary. Yeah, I'm glad you had mentioned that he

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just went pretty much right back to
career norms, because that was the first

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thing I was going to say.
If you look at his monster season in

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Colorado, the twenty one twenty two
season, the big jump was in the

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assists. It's not like he had
in the forty three goal season or whatever.

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Right, he didn't even get to
the thirty goal mark. The big

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thing was that he got to fifty
nine assists, which was like thirty assists

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clear of his previous career I or
something like that. Last year was just

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returned down to normal. The reason
I want to talk about Cadre is just

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where his ADPs are Over on Underdog
Fantasy, he's going as the thirty fifth

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center, which, if you want
to gauge it by other positions gone,

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he's probably going outside the top one
hundred and twenty five picks. If you

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look over on ESPN, they have
him as one hundred and thirty first forward

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off the board. And we think
of last year as like a down year

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for him or whatever. He did
only score twenty four goals despite playing all

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eighty two games. As you said, he was still a top eighty four

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by ESPN's player rankings by their default
setups. So even in what was a

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regression year for him, he was
still like a number seven, number eight

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forward in twelve team leagues. So, as you said, if there's another

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year of chemistry, if the power
plays a little bit better, I think

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the power play is something that that
we probably should have seen coming last year.

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But it does make a huge difference. He went from Colorado in twenty

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and two years ago, who led
the league in power play opportunities per game,

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and I don't think it was particularly
close either. They're like point two

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opportunities higher than the next closest team, which is a lot. He went

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from that to the middle of the
pack, and that's a lot of power

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play time miss. It's about a
minute per game, and when average that

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out by what he can produce,
that's five or six power play points lost

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just by power play opportunity differences.
And that's nothing to do with what happens

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on the ice when the power play
actually starts. That's just what the team

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does it even strength, unless they
start drawing some more penalties, I think

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they'll be in tough And I think
the other thing that he said about maybe

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a lack of supporting cast around him
does hurt. I've seen in training camp

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so far they've had Huberto up with
Elia Slnholme, which would tell me Manchapani's

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probably playing with Cadgrey. But then
who's the third guys. It gonna be

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like Blake Coleman or de la Dube
or is it going to be? I

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saw pell Jay's playing with Kevin Rooney, so it doesn't seem like Jacob Pellichay's

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very high on their depth chart right
now. So it is who are as

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linemates are going to be. I
think that is a really big question.

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But he can bring so many shots, and he was flirted with one hundred

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hits last year. Even if he
only puts up eighty, that's fine.

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If you can put up two hundred
and forty shots, eighty hits, twenty

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five goals, thirty assists, that's
probably that's easily a top one hundred four

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in most fantasy for at top seventy
five, depending on how your scoring goes.

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I just think it's not that unpredicting, like he'll return to form and

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push ninety points or something like that. I just think that he's just a

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tremendous value based by his ADPs right
now, where he doesn't really even have

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to improve on last year to pay
off where he's being drafted, and I

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think he's definitely one of those guys
that you want to grab at the end

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of the draft. Maybe you have
some injury risks at center, maybe you

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have some guys that are unproven,
you're not sure how they'll do. Not

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a bad idea to grab Kadrie if
you're in some medium size twelve team league

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towards the end of the draft,
just as a safety valve that you can

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plug in case things go wrong with
the guys that you did pick higher than

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him. Jacob McDonald, this one's
a pole. Michael I like this one.

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He's been a journeyman in his pro
career, a San Jose defenseman.

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He's average twelve fifty average timinis in
one hundred and one NHL games. Enters

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this season at age thirty, and
his games played have been spread over four

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years on three franchises. Eighteen points
in those hundred and one games, with

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a shot and hit per game.
What is getting mister McDonald onto your radar?

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What are you expecting from him this
year? I've heard of writing about

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fantasy hockey means you have to write
about all thirty two teams, but unfortunately

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that includes the San Jose Sharks this
year. It's just a lack of options

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on the blue line. Eric Carlson's
gone and there's just no one else around.

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Henry Throne is the prospect that everybody
is talking about. It and I

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agree he is the power play defenseman
of the future for them. How far

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into the future, I guess we'll
find out. It might only be a

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year or two. But there's two
things that I think hurt Thron's case,

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at least for game one of the
regular season to be the top power play

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defenseman. First is, the team
has eight NHL defenseman under contract. Now

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they have the cap space to just
wave somebody and stuff them in the HL

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or whatever, so they can do
that if Thron pushes his way onto the

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team. But that kind of tells
me that maybe Throne starts in the HL

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this season, maybe something like Cam
York did last year, which has spend

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maybe October November or half November at
first ten or fifteen games with and then

406
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:03,720
gets called up. The other thing
about McDonald is he actually got the second

407
00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:08,319
most power play minutes behind Eric Carlson
last year in San Jose, which there

408
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:11,000
are a lot of times Eric Carlson
was just playing both halves of the power

409
00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:15,880
play anyway, So what the second
most power play minutes in San Jose were

410
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,279
worth. It wasn't very much,
but they did that because he was running

411
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:22,240
the power plays in the HL,
and he had done that for years for

412
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:25,960
the Bear not only for the Barracout, but wherever else he was. I

413
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,920
think it was Colorado last year,
the Colorado Eagles last year. So he

414
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,720
was running the power play in the
HL, and if you look at his

415
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,400
goal scoring, he had something like
sixty goals in two hundred and thirty HL

416
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:41,279
games. Like this was a defenseman
that can score goals. I don't think

417
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:44,799
he can do that at the NHL
level, but clearly, at least in

418
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:48,480
the minors, the coaches saw something
in him to run power plays and to

419
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:52,359
do a year after year, and
then the San Jose Sharks saw the same

420
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,319
thing when he made his way over
from Colorado to where he was running the

421
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,519
second power play and whenever Eric Carlson
needed a little rest. So I think

422
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:03,119
he's first in line just to jump
up to the top power play at least

423
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,240
to start the season, maybe the
fifteen or twenty games. And the thing

424
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:10,480
is he's You're right, he is
a journeyman. But if you look at

425
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:14,240
some of his metrics, they're not
that bad. Like he has like good

426
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,480
zone exit numbers, which means he
can help move the pop cleanly and has

427
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:22,920
been able to show it to do
that in small samples, whether in Colorado

428
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:27,200
or in San Jose. Less so
in Colorado obviously, but if you're playing

429
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,599
with Devin Taves and kil McCarry and
mombarro and those guys are going to be

430
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:34,000
doing it for you, right.
But he was also good defensively, so

431
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:37,440
I think this is a guy who
at least can make the first pass,

432
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,920
who's good at his own end,
and has run in ram power plays for

433
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,599
years in the HL. I think
Jacob McDonald is one of those guys that

434
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,839
could maybe have the power plays through
October and November before Throne comes up and

435
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,559
takes it from him. Maybe he
just keeps it the whole season. But

436
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,279
I think considering he's going to be
free in almost any draft you do,

437
00:28:55,559 --> 00:29:00,920
outside of drafts that are five hundred
players deep for a deep or type format,

438
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,519
I think he's the guy to have
as a last defenseman on the bench.

439
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,000
What the top power play guy in
San Jose is actually worth. It

440
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,519
may not be a lot, might
only be ten or twelve points over the

441
00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:12,200
course of the season, but those
power play points are better than nothing when

442
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,759
you need when you when you're looking
at your seventh three defenseman in a sixteen

443
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:22,759
team league or something like that.
Yeah, I appreciate this take. I

444
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:26,079
also think that it might not be
worth that much because it might just be

445
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,039
so dire there. And I know
that Quinn was talking just yesterday as we're

446
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:34,920
recording this about all options are on
the table and even five forwards. So

447
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,200
it's definitely he might get the role
and run with it. It might be

448
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,799
really good, and you're not investing
much either way, so if it's not

449
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:45,559
good, you can always drop him. It's no big deal. But yeah,

450
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,799
I like, I'm eager to see
how it plays out. The next

451
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:51,519
guy, I'm really eager to see
how he can do, and that's Marco

452
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,759
Rossi. According to Michael Russo,
Rossi changed his skating stride in the offseason

453
00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:00,720
put on fifteen pounds of muscle.
He is not a very tall guy that

454
00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:04,240
maybe I'm not sure where all that
muscle went, but his legs are very

455
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,759
strong and powerful, and a lot
was made in the in the off season

456
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:12,480
about the single assist he had in
just in nineteen NHL games, But I

457
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:17,160
thought he showed pretty well. Did
Rossi in his limited opportunity. He's been

458
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:19,200
killing it in the HL for the
past two seasons, but just twenty one

459
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:23,519
NHL games under his belt. The
centers ahead of him are Hartman, Jill

460
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:29,640
Ericson Eck and Frederick Goodreau. I
don't think these are insurmountable roadblocks. So

461
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,880
what do you think we can expect
from Rossi this season? Mike Yeah.

462
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,160
I have to say it was a
little disheartening to see Ryan Hartman back up

463
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,079
with Kaprazoff for the first day of
training camp and Rossi was I think he

464
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:45,480
was with Marcus Felino on what would
be their third line. But I don't

465
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,279
I agree with you. I don't
think it would take a lot for Rossy

466
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:55,759
to overtake Hartman and be the center
for Kirol Kaprasoff. I think there's obviously

467
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:59,279
there's a really good reason why it's
probably going to take him this long to

468
00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:02,960
really make a him packed at the
NHL. Like you can't like with bow

469
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:04,599
and Byron, where you can't talk
about him without talking about concussions, I

470
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,759
don't think you can talk about Rossi
without talking about the COVID complications he had.

471
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,759
When you're nineteen twenty years old and
you lose an entire year of development

472
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,440
because of a health problem, and
it's not like where it was a broken

473
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:19,839
leg, where all you need is
just the bone to heal and then you're

474
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,279
right back at it. I think
anybody that's had issues with COVID would probably

475
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:27,400
be able to tell you that even
if you're quote over it, you're still

476
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,119
not quite one hundred percent healthy.
And there's a big difference between somebody and

477
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:37,039
a forty five year old accountant going
to work and a twenty year old going

478
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:40,359
to play in the best hockey league
in the world. You have to be

479
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,240
at your absolute peat physical ability to
do well, and I'm wondering if it

480
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:49,200
didn't take him even another year to
really get back to where he needed to

481
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,559
be, And I think that's why
he added so much muscle in one offseason,

482
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:57,640
basically the first time he's really I'm
thinking it's basically the first time he's

483
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,200
really been able to be himself in
the off season in a number of years

484
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:07,920
now, and I think we should
probably be a little bit more lenient with

485
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,920
him because of that. Like I
said, it's not as if he just

486
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,519
broke his ankle and needed to come
back in six months or something like that.

487
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:19,440
It was the fact that it took
him at least six months to get

488
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,960
back on the ice, let alone
get back to where he should be as

489
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:28,319
a player. And I'm with you. I thought he looked fine in his

490
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,240
brief stint. Obviously he didn't excel
production wise, but if you can produce

491
00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:36,960
as well as he did in the
HL, be as highly touted as he

492
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:38,880
is, show as well as he
has just about everywhere that he's gone,

493
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,559
I have to think that it was
just playing against the lower competition made it

494
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:47,200
easier for him, even though he
wasn't in his peak physical condition. Hopefully

495
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:52,319
now he is. I think he's
a guy if there's a guy that's gonna

496
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:57,359
push Connorbert Dart for the Calder Trophy. If Connorbert Dart for whatever reason has

497
00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:00,359
a bad season, maybe he has
an injury, it keeps him out thirty

498
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:02,559
games, like happened with Connor McDavid's
rookie year or something like that, I

499
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:06,279
think Rossi's one of the guys that
can win the Calder Trophy because, like

500
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,440
you said, there's not that much
for robe. They don't want to use

501
00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:13,079
Joel Eric Sinec with Carol Kaprizoff because
they want to use Eric Sink in a

502
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:15,160
shutdown role because that's what he sells
at and he is one of the best,

503
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,680
one of the best in the league
at it. All he has to

504
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,519
do really is overtake Ryan Hartman,
and I like Hartman as a player.

505
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:23,720
I've liked him for a long time. I don't think he's not a top

506
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:28,200
line center. I think Rossy is, and I don't think it'll be very

507
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,720
long before Rossi is not only skating
with kaprisoff at even strike but also on

508
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,480
the power play. I think he
just has tremendous, tremendous upside for the

509
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:39,319
season. He's still just He's only
turning twenty two years old this weekend,

510
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:43,440
and if you think that he lost
at least one year, if not two,

511
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:49,640
of development to those complications that he
had, basically he's basically where he's

512
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,640
at where he should have been as
a twenty year old right now. I

513
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,720
just think the world of him.
I think he's just a tremendous player that

514
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:59,079
just really needed some time to get
his health right, and it appears that

515
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:02,559
he's in that place now. He's
one of those guys that I think he's

516
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,079
could be a I think he could
be a threat for the Calder Trophy,

517
00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:08,800
even if the Dart stays healthy,
because if Rossi ends up on kil Kapazov's

518
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,800
line by the end of October,
he could easily have a sixty point season.

519
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:19,960
If not a lot more Taylor Hall, he's gonna turn thirty to the

520
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,760
season. Mike, former number one
overall pick, is on his sixth NHL

521
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:29,559
franchise, looking to play likely some
first line left wing for the Chicago Blackhawks.

522
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,360
He's been over a point per game
only four times in his NHL career.

523
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,280
Can you believe that in last in
an injury marred twenty eighteen nineteen.

524
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,639
If you want to count that short
season, that shouldn't be a knock on

525
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:44,280
the guy. What do we expect? But it just surprises me. He's

526
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,519
got a Heart Trophy in his case, and he played a complimentary role,

527
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:51,079
more of a depth role for the
Bruins last couple of years. Likely back

528
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:53,760
in the Lime Light, probably going
to be on a lot of national TV

529
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:59,559
playing next to Connor Bedard in the
near future. What are you expecting out

530
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:04,199
of Taylor Hall this year? How
should he be valued in fantasy hockey?

531
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,199
So? I think his stint in
Boston I think could mislead a lot of

532
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:10,800
people when it comes to Taylor Hall
because, like you said, he was

533
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,239
more of a support role. He
wasn't in a feature role. He played

534
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,239
three minutes less per game in Boston
than he did in New Jersey. And

535
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,079
that's just a bassive difference, right, Like you're losing fifteen percent, if

536
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:27,440
not more, of your ice time. It's gonna just nuke your totals.

537
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:32,800
The other thing about Taylor Hall is
like byrom you want to separate out his

538
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,760
production by line meets, And I
did that over at Dauber Hockey a couple

539
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,800
of weeks ago. I looked at
his production in Boston when he was playing

540
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,559
with David Pasternak and his production in
Boston when he was playing with anybody else.

541
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:49,800
And when he was playing with David
Pasternak, he put up the same

542
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,239
points per minute rate as Miko Ranton
in Colorado. When he wasn't playing with

543
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:59,599
Pasternak, it was more like Brian
rust type production. And the reason for

544
00:35:59,639 --> 00:36:01,239
that is when he wasn't playing with
David Pasternak, he was in the bottom

545
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:06,159
six, right, he was playing
with Charlie Coyle and Trent Frederick and Aj

546
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,559
Greer and all these guys like not
bad players, but obviously not David Pasternach

547
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:16,679
can Patrice Bergeron. So one thing
I always try to remember about players when

548
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:21,440
I'm doing any type of analysis.
It's something I heard years ago, and

549
00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:25,239
it's it goes like this, It's
there are no harder minutes for a hockey

550
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,679
player than minutes played with bad line
mates. And not that those guys in

551
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,599
Boston are bad players, obviously they're
very good players. But they're not David

552
00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:37,039
Pasternak, they're not Brad Marsh and
they're not Patrice Bergeron, and they're not

553
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:42,320
connorber Dark. And I don't know
why people are, Like I've seen Connorbert

554
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:47,719
Dark go twentieth overall in a Best
Ball draft, which is absolutely absurd.

555
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,920
To pay that off, you would
need probably a forty five You would need

556
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,639
to taste Thompson season like he had
last year, like forty five goals,

557
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:58,480
forty five assists or something like that. If people think connorber Dark can do

558
00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:02,039
that, then why is Hall going
like two hundred and thirtieth or whatever it

559
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:07,000
is. He's the fifty second winger
off the board by adp On underdog,

560
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:10,960
the one hundred and twenty sixth forward, so a bench forward in a twelve

561
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,599
team league depending on how many how
many forwards you start. If Connorbert Dart

562
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:20,320
is going to have a forty or
forty five goal season, which is like

563
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,039
a bad pastor NACT season. Like
I just said, Taylor Hall produced similarly

564
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:29,599
to Miko Ranton in on a per
minute basis with David Pasternach. Why can't

565
00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:32,719
Hall do that with the dark?
So I think this could be a season

566
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,280
where we look back and Taylor Hall
finishes with twenty two goals and seventy three

567
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,000
points or something like that, and
we all think where did that come from?

568
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:42,480
And it's going to be the fact
that he's playing nineteen minutes a night,

569
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,760
that he's playing with connorber Dart and
even strengthened on the power play.

570
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:49,440
The only thing for him is being
able to stay healthy. He wasn't able

571
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,800
to last year. He was able
to the year before. If we can

572
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,639
get eighty games out of him,
I definitely think Taylor Hall can reach seventy

573
00:37:54,639 --> 00:38:00,880
point mark. Yeah, I agree, I agree to Like in redraft,

574
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,840
Connor Berdard is not someone I'm probably
gonna touch. He's just going way too

575
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,159
high. I'm gonna draft right now, We're at pick thirty three and he's

576
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:12,960
still there and he probably won't be
there too much longer. But I'm not

577
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,360
going to take him because, yeah, the options there are too good.

578
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,400
But his linemates and the peripheral cast, I think you gotta bump up a

579
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,320
little bit because they can see some
tremendous value there. So definitely agree with

580
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,920
that. Let's talk about the second
to last one here in the West,

581
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,920
and this is a goalie, Joel
Hofer, and he's twenty three years old,

582
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,039
six foot five, coming into his
third season getting He was mainly getting

583
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:39,599
HL staffs, but he did see
some NHL action last season. Over three

584
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:45,760
seasons in Utica and Springfield, Hofer
improved his GA and saved percentage each year.

585
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,079
He managed the six NHL starts,
as I mentioned, winning three of

586
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:52,400
his first four games and that fourth
one being a shootout loss. The last

587
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,679
two games Hofer would probably like to
have back, especially the one on March

588
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,119
twenty six where he got run out
of the crease with five goals and six

589
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,440
hundred sixteen by the Kings. Certainly, we know that Bennington has been trending

590
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:07,800
down and the last basically since he
won the Cup, and he's been pretty

591
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,840
bad, but he does have the
contract. I'm just wondering, though,

592
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,800
do you think, Mike, that
Joel Hofer can pull up Bennington on Jordan

593
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,280
Bennington. Yeah, I'm glad you
put it like that because I think that's

594
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,280
exactly what I had to mind here, is that he'll do to Bennington with

595
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,800
Bennington did to Jake allenback when they
made their Cup run. You're right that

596
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,880
Bennington has that big contract, so
obviously they want to try to make it

597
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,480
work with him. But I also
think if you read any of the GM's

598
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:35,880
quotes, like the GM had quotes
this week, it was he said something

599
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,599
like, we have no equity left
with the organization, with our fans,

600
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:43,039
like the Cup was four years ago. Now, we haven't won much since.

601
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:45,760
We have to get back to our
winning ways. They went got Kevin

602
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,000
Hayes in the offseason. Now,
while going to get Kevin Hayes doesn't don't

603
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:52,400
start playing the parade, what it
does tell me is that they wanted to

604
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,639
reload their depth with serviceable middle six
guys and not just send up a bunch

605
00:39:57,639 --> 00:40:00,719
of young players to try to develop
them. That tells me that they want

606
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,400
to return to the postseason. They
don't want to just have another middling year

607
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,199
where they finished twenty first in the
NHL. And what that tells me is

608
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,159
that Bennington probably doesn't have a lot
of leash. If he comes out of

609
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:15,559
the gate and he doesn't have very
good numbers after his first eight, ten,

610
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:19,360
twelve starts, They're gonna have to
turn to Joel Hofer if they want

611
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,960
to get back to the postseason.
So it's one of those situations where I'll

612
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,280
freely admit I'm lot a goalie scout, like I don't know the finer technical

613
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,960
points of goaltending, but I do
know that team wants to get back to

614
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,639
the playoffs. Like you said,
Bennington's been on a pretty much just a

615
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,199
downward trajectory ever since that Cup season. I think it's five on five say

616
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:43,639
percentage has gone down every year since. His goal saved above expected has gone

617
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:47,280
down nearly every year since. He
just hasn't been good at all. And

618
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:52,320
if his tense start rolls around and
he's got like an eight ninety one say

619
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,400
percentage, I think it's gonna be
Joel Hofer time. And how good St.

620
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,920
Louis is actually going to be I
think it's a fair question to add,

621
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,559
but I'll tell you right now,
I would much rather take Joel Holfer

622
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:08,239
as my fourth goalie than I would
want to take Jordan Bennington as a high

623
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,599
end backup in fantasy that I just
don't think the value was there to make

624
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:19,079
that work. Nikolai Eelers, now
you're singing my tune, Mike, I

625
00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:22,440
love this guy. You don't have
to do much to convince me that this

626
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:28,000
Winnipeg winger is just due for a
season of everything coming together. Dubois Wheeler

627
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:32,119
need a writer, have moved out
from among Winnipeg's top forwards, presumably leaving

628
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:37,159
even more opportunity. In eight years
in Winnipeg, he has scated sixteen thirty

629
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:42,280
six a night on average, and
last year it was just fifteen thirty nine.

630
00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:45,320
He's lost games to injury, a
lot of games to injury for the

631
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,920
last five years, so health obviously
is going to be key. What kind

632
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,119
of upside do you see for Nikolai
Eelers this year? Yeah, I think

633
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:59,280
when we talk about his twenty two
twenty three season, you have to talk

634
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,840
about that injury, right, because
yes, his ice time was completely nuke,

635
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,360
but that only happened once he returned
from injury. In January. He

636
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,800
got injured. I think it was
the second or third game of the season

637
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:14,239
was he had I'm just checking his
game log now. The second game of

638
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,559
the season he played nearly twenty two
minutes. It seemed like they were going

639
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:21,360
to lean on him. Then he
got injured. Maybe he wasn't as good

640
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,320
as he could be when he came
back, and that's why he was only

641
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:29,320
playing fourteen fifteen minutes at night most
times. But the thing with Eilers is

642
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,320
he just needs that ice time.
He's been one of the most efficient point

643
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:37,719
producers in the NHL for five years
now. He's always not right at the

644
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,840
top, but pretty close to it, if not that far behind, and

645
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,679
points per minute at even strength,
it's just that he only gets maybe thirteen

646
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,800
even strength minutes at the most,
rather than fourteen, fifteen, sixteen for

647
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,800
some guys. He just hasn't been
getting that ice time. I'm wondering if

648
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,440
now is not the time for that
to happen, because they don't really have

649
00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:00,559
a lot of They've had a pretty
bad bottom six for a number of years

650
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:02,039
now. I don't think this season's
going to be any different. I think

651
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:06,239
they're really going to have to lean
on their top six, like Colorado did

652
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,920
last year, though that was more
due to injury than anything. But I

653
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,159
think you're going to see a number
of guys in Winnipeg's top six all over

654
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:16,239
the twenty minute mark, especially the
power play guys, just because they don't

655
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,719
have any other options. But Eilers
generates a ton of shots. He always

656
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,719
has great shot volume on a per
minute basis always very efficient with his production.

657
00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:30,079
He's just been often kept off the
power play. That's the big problem

658
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:32,400
here. It's I hate to keep
harping on the same thing, but it's

659
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:37,119
just so important for a player's fantasy
value to be able to produce on the

660
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:42,079
power play. Now, he should
be there this season because they did move

661
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:44,480
out du Ba, they did move
out Wheeler. The only guy they brought

662
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:47,360
in that is a real threat would
be Gay Vlarity. So if you see

663
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:52,480
Schifle and Kyle Connor there probably cold
praffiti. I think it makes a lot

664
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,199
of sense to have Nikola Eilers as
the fourth. But that's going to be

665
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,320
the crux to all this is if
Eilers can get that top power play time,

666
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,079
then yes, he's going to be
a tremendous fantasy value. Where he's

667
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:05,000
being drafted, He's been he's like
one hundred and twentieth forward off the board

668
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:09,800
on ESPN. He's only a low
third winger on Underdog. He's not being

669
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,119
drafted highly there at all. Either. If he's playing nineteen twenty minutes at

670
00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:16,119
night with top power play time,
like he could easily put up a ninety

671
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:20,280
point seasons, I think he's definitely
one of those guys I want to take

672
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,639
in the back half of drafts to
hope that this is final of the season

673
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:27,559
where he can play eighty games nineteen
minutes a game, top power play time,

674
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,199
and really show the upside that he's
been that he's been teasing us with

675
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,960
for like I said, for about
five years now, I can't even blame

676
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,119
palm or reesport anymore. That makes
me so mad. All right, let's

677
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:46,480
take a brief break, come back
and go to the Eastern Conference. La,

678
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:59,280
La, there's a weapon that you've
gone nay. We talked about the

679
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,119
West now looks the eight picker.
I think you have our first contestant up

680
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:07,119
with it. I sure do,
and it's one Michael Matherson. We're going

681
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:10,960
to start with him best point total
and point pace of his career thirty four

682
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,719
points in forty eight games extrapolates to
a fifty eight point pace, which is

683
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,079
definitely double what he has done in
some of his seasons, a little bit

684
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,719
less than double compared to last season. The question, the legit question,

685
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,800
is is he really helping out there, and he's His underlyings are actually pretty

686
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,400
good in terms of his defensive and
offensive impacts, actually surprisingly expected goals for

687
00:45:32,639 --> 00:45:37,239
and COURSI is pretty low on the
power play, which is a bit surprising.

688
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,599
But you know a lot of this
damage that Matheson did was without Cool

689
00:45:39,639 --> 00:45:44,119
Caufield in the lineup, who's obviously
a big part of being able to score

690
00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:47,679
there. And you wonder what he's
going to be able to do moving forward

691
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,320
with this team. Certainly this season
it seems like there's no challenges, but

692
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:57,559
down the road there are some Lane
Hudson, David Reinbacher problems and even someone

693
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:00,400
like Kayden Gooley. I don't know, maybe there's some potential competition there,

694
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:05,920
but I'm assuming it's Matheson's blue line
and power play to patrol a mantra all

695
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,960
this season, So I think we
can expect some pretty decent things from him.

696
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,800
And it sounds like you agree,
Mike. What do you think we

697
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,840
can expect from Mathison this season,
but then also will his value persist beyond

698
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,079
this one? Yeah, I think
that's the bigger question is what is his

699
00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:23,440
value going to be in innkeeper dynasty
type formats. I don't think it's the

700
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,440
same as this season. This season, there's just no competition for him for

701
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,840
top power play minutes. Laid Hudson, I don't think he's gonna be on

702
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,320
the team this year. They're gonna
obviously they're gonna give him another year.

703
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,280
Ryan Boker is not going to be
there. I think Jordan Harris might be

704
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,159
a guy that could push him for
time eventually, that of the guys that

705
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:43,800
are on the roster. But that's
about it. Like, as long as

706
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,360
Matheson is healthy for this season,
he's going to be running the top power

707
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:51,519
play. He did have a big
jump in per game production last year,

708
00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:53,719
like you said, by far the
best of his career. But it was

709
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,920
a confluence of two things. One
was the most minute he had ever played

710
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,280
before. He's at twenty four and
a half minutes last year. The previous

711
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:06,400
two previous three seasons he was between
eighteen and nineteen minutes, So he basically

712
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,920
added six minutes of ice time in
one season per game, which is a

713
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,920
lot. The other is finally running
the top power play. I'm just looking

714
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,679
at his numbers right now. From
twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two, I

715
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,719
spanned two hundred and fifty two games, he had eleven power play points.

716
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,599
Just last year loan, in forty
eight games, he had nine. Running

717
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:32,599
the top power play makes a huge
difference. So if he's I think he's

718
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:37,119
gonna be playing a lot of minutes
again, maybe not pushing for twenty five

719
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:38,519
minutes, but I definitely think he's
gonna be in the twenty three to twenty

720
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:43,480
four minute range. I've long thought
he's been a pretty good defenseman, like

721
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:45,800
a toolsy type defenseman that just needed
time to figure it out and put it

722
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,639
all together. Like he can skate
well, he can pass well. He

723
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:53,079
has good vision, which is sometimes
he'd make some pretty obvious mistakes that would

724
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:57,360
cause turnovers and cause goals against and
things like that, and I think that's

725
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,480
what drove his coach is crazy.
But I think he's not necessarily fix that

726
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:05,199
with maturity, but it's certainly gotten
a lot better in fantasy, Like you

727
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,039
have the top power play defenseman I
think, aside for Matthison, I think

728
00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:12,039
Montreal is going to be a better
offensive team than people are giving them credit

729
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:15,599
for. Like Marty Tennis Saint Louis
he has been playing. I want like

730
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:21,119
the Saint Louis Blues played in those
twenty nineteen twenty twenty seasons, where they

731
00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:23,280
might not put up huge shot volume
numbers, but they always create a lot

732
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,639
of quality chances on the shots that
they do get, and I think Mattheson's

733
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:30,639
gonna be able to reap the rewards
off that, both in goals and an

734
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:37,159
assists. I actually have I finalize
my rankings yesterday. The last thing I

735
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:39,320
have to do is to add in
rookies. But Matthieson graded out is my

736
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:45,559
number twenty defenseman in multi CAAP formats. Depending on what site you're drafting him

737
00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:47,800
and what you're drafting room is and
all that, you can get him anywhere

738
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,280
between the fortieth and sixtieth defenseman off
the board, like he's just not being

739
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:58,639
drafted. And even if I'm way
too bullish on him, I still think

740
00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:02,360
he's gonna easily be at top forty
defenseman in MULTIICAP formats this season. Even

741
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,519
if the Montreal Power play isn't very
good because all you need really from him

742
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:09,639
is about fifteen powerplay points and with
his peripherals, they'll do the rest of

743
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:14,639
the value forim. So I just
think he's probably one of the better defense

744
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:19,599
values that's available right now. And
I'm drafting him in basically every lead that

745
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:22,920
I've done because I asked, like
he said, I have him ranked pretty

746
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,599
highly and he's just not going anywhere
close to that. So you can wait

747
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:30,400
till the sixteenth, seventeenth round or
whatever and then grab him and you're getting

748
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,880
a number one power play defenseman who
has fifty point potential and could put up

749
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:38,480
triple digit hits and triple digit blocks
and get up close to two hundred shots

750
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,199
and all those things. So I
just think he's just one of the best

751
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,800
values in fantasy hockey this offseason and
needs a defenseman that I want on every

752
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:52,519
single team I have. Love it
Boone Jenner. He has long been a

753
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:57,960
solid guy in the Columbus Blue Jackets
lineup, skates over twenty minutes a night,

754
00:49:58,159 --> 00:50:01,559
nearly two hits three shots tonight to
go along with twenty six schools nineteen

755
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:07,079
assists for forty five points in sixty
eight games last year. Bad news is

756
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:13,920
he has missed some time. He's
missed fifty two games collectively over the past

757
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,960
three years. What are you expecting
from Boone Jenner next year and what makes

758
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,960
him a value in fantasy? Well, the first thing is, like Mattheson,

759
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:27,159
is he's just not being drafted highly. I did a Best Ball draft

760
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:30,920
a couple of days ago, and
I got him in the very last round.

761
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,800
It was like one hundred and seventy
first pick overall or something like that.

762
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:37,679
So he's just he's and he's not
a top fifty center off the board.

763
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,199
So if you're starting three centers in
twelfteen league, he's a bench center.

764
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,639
So he's just not being drafted.
And I get it. You mentioned

765
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,119
the back injuries and those are that's
certainly a huge concern, Like something could

766
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:52,280
flare up at the end of October
and he ends up with eleven games played

767
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,760
this season, maybe something bad like
Shawkatory and Mark Stone or something like that,

768
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,480
and then he's just not a good
fantasy value to anyone. But there's

769
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:02,239
a couple of things here. The
first is the team just doesn't have the

770
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:07,840
centers yet. Obviously Adam Fantilty's there, and he's going to be a superstar

771
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:12,679
in fairly short order. I just
think asking Fantility to be the number one

772
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,360
center on that top power play right
now, because faceofts on the power play

773
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:21,840
matter quite a bit, and I
think having Adam Fantilly taking center or taking

774
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,320
faceoffs as the center on the power
play is just asking for a lot of

775
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:30,079
lost possessions and that's just something any
coach will not stand. So unless Fantility

776
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:32,239
can show right out of the gate
that he can win faceoffs at a fifty

777
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,679
three or fifty four percent clip,
which I really doubt he'll be able to

778
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,199
as an eighteen year old rookie,
I just don't see him being the center

779
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,639
for the top power play. And
there's just no one else like Ken Johnson's

780
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:45,280
not going to do it, Jack
Roswick's not going to do it. Obviously,

781
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,559
They're not gonna be Sean Coraley on
the power play, etc. Etc.

782
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:51,800
There's just no center depth there,
so some one of those lack of

783
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,960
options type things. He's a guy
where if he does play a full season,

784
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,119
he can score thirty goals because he
shoots so much and gets those power

785
00:51:58,119 --> 00:52:00,320
play minutes and play so much.
Just in general, he's gonna be on

786
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,159
the top line. They haven't skating
with Johnny Goodrow in training camp. I

787
00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:07,400
don't see any reason why that would
change until later in the season. Maybe

788
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:12,320
they move Vntilly with him or something
like that. But he's gonna be at

789
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,440
the very least he's gonna be.
He's gonna be in the top six.

790
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:15,719
He's gonna play a lot of minutes. He's gonna be on the power play.

791
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,000
He brings the peripherals like he shoots, he hits, he brings all

792
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:23,320
that. I'll just think he's such
a tremendous draft value right now that he's

793
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,039
one of those guys that I'm drafting
as my very last center in those mid

794
00:52:28,199 --> 00:52:30,239
range leagues where there's two hundred and
fifty players drafted, He's the guy that

795
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:36,039
I'm drafting is the last center in
a lot of them. I definitely agree

796
00:52:36,039 --> 00:52:37,920
with that. And I just wanted
to mention that I got Matheson and the

797
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,960
best ball I'm doing right now at
one forty six, great value. And

798
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,760
this next guy we're going to talk
about at one ninety one, and that

799
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:51,119
is Cam York And so I think
that's really good value. So I'm already

800
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:52,599
gonna say I agree with you,
But just to give a little background on

801
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:58,320
York, the Flyers had the worst
power play last year fifteen point six percent

802
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,559
conversion, only thirty five power play
goals across the entire team. The powerplay

803
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:06,079
option the main one there. Tony
D'Angelo went back to Carolina, so prime

804
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:12,320
opportunity. There's certainly the lack of
other options there, so obviously there aren't

805
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,480
too many amazing fullwords, Mitchkoff is
not going to be there yet and so

806
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:21,039
it may not be the most amazing
powerplay. But York when his sophomore season

807
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:25,800
featured a small drop in powerplay time
but game enhanced. But the enhanced rate

808
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,360
stats in five on five are pretty
well across the board. Maybe now is

809
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,519
the time to invest in Cam York
long term if you haven't already in three

810
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:38,559
years, can we expect maybe some
dynamic duos to take the league by storm

811
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:43,079
with some situation with Cam York and
some of these strong forwards that they have

812
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:45,559
there as one of the questions.
Obviously down the road, we're thinking,

813
00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:50,679
maybe Mitchkoff is going to light up
and Cam York can be the power play

814
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,199
quarterback. I guess that remains to
be seen. But for this season,

815
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:58,320
what do you think about York and
the kind of powerplay situation there in general

816
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,199
for the Flyers. Yeah, I
think a big thing for the Flyers is

817
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,400
just the health of Sean Contourier.
Right. It's tough to talk about them

818
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,960
and without talking about him, because
when he's at his best, he is

819
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,559
a true number one center in the
NHL. Right, it's just after the

820
00:54:13,639 --> 00:54:15,519
year off with a back injury.
He's into his thirties. Now, is

821
00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:19,440
he going to be at his best? That's the big question. If Sean

822
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,559
Contourier starts the season and he looks
like the guy he was four years ago

823
00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:29,559
or three years ago, that's just
tremendous news for everybody on the Flyers,

824
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:36,199
Travis Knectney and Andel Fairbe, certainly
cam York. As he mentioned, Tony

825
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,159
d'angelo's gone. So there's just really
no one there who's gonna take top power

826
00:54:39,199 --> 00:54:43,000
play minutes from him, right.
I know Rasmus ris Line got power play

827
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:45,840
minutes down the stretch at the end
of last season. I just don't think

828
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,880
he's going to be the one to
run the power play game in and game

829
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,280
out. Maybe he might get he
did get some NetFront time they used him

830
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,440
in the way Boston used the Dano
charo once upon a time. But Cam

831
00:54:55,519 --> 00:54:59,639
York's he's going to be the guy
to run the top power play unit with

832
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,519
John Tortorella there, I was real
scared how Kim York might actually fair.

833
00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:07,119
But he was one of the younger
guys along with Noah Cats that seemed to

834
00:55:07,159 --> 00:55:10,480
earn Tortorella's trust as the year went
on, and by the end of the

835
00:55:10,519 --> 00:55:14,960
season, York was playing twenty one
to twenty two minutes a night, lack

836
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,920
of options and all that, But
it's not they brought in Sean Walker and

837
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,880
Mark Stall like those are if York's
playing well, those aren't guys that are

838
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,639
going to take a lot of minutes
away from him, right, So there's

839
00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:27,599
just not a whole lot of competition
there from him. I think the big

840
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:30,880
thing to note with him is that
even with Tortorella coming in and really stressing

841
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,239
good work in his own end,
and he was good in his own end.

842
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,679
I think that's something that I think
that's the reason why Tortorella trusted him,

843
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,599
because he defended the blue line very
well, He got out of the

844
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:45,280
zone cleanly, very well. He
did the things that would limit chances against

845
00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:47,000
and that's why he was playing nearly
twenty two minutes by the end of the

846
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,800
season, even though he started the
year in the AHL. I just think

847
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,679
he's going to be the guy on
the blue line for them in fairly short

848
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,000
order, and he's certainly going to
be the guy to run the top power

849
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,079
play unit. And like I said, if Sean Couturier is back to where

850
00:56:01,079 --> 00:56:06,639
he was, I think Travis Knnecny
is one of the most underrated wingers in

851
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,639
the entire league. I think they'll
be able to cobble together. Certainly not

852
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,920
a good power play, but definitely
better than what it was last year.

853
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:17,679
And you're with a couple more minutes
per game. If he's around twenty one

854
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,480
minutes a game, he can push
for triple digit hits. He can probably

855
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,840
put up like one hundred ten,
one hundred and twenty blocks, so he's

856
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:29,400
not gonna hurt you that much in
multiicat formats. I just think he's a

857
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:35,239
guy that could probably get up to
that forty forty five point mark, but

858
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,679
also brings some decent peripherals. Maybe
not a ton of shots, but definitely

859
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,840
blocks and hits. And I think
it just makes him a good value all

860
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,480
over the place. Something would have
to I think something will have to go

861
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:46,599
very wrong with his season and the
Flyer season for him to not be running

862
00:56:46,639 --> 00:56:53,760
the power play all year long.
Oliver Walstrom he messed up his knee halfway

863
00:56:53,760 --> 00:57:00,239
through last year and could be an
afterthought to drafters coming into this upcoming year.

864
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:07,800
That said, the Aisles winger across
four seasons has He's neither ever played

865
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,679
nearly every game nor scored even a
half point per game in his career.

866
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,519
He's pretty consistent with his peripherals,
a hit and a half, two shots

867
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:20,360
per game the half season he did
play, and the last chunk of the

868
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,320
season before he went out he was
with Matt Barzol, which is pretty nice.

869
00:57:24,639 --> 00:57:28,840
But power play tim and ice has
been tough to come by. What

870
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,719
are you expecting from Oliver Wallstrom and
how highly should we value him in fantasy

871
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:37,159
drafts? If you had asked me
this question five days ago, I would

872
00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:40,880
have had probably had a different answer. And then I saw the training camp

873
00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:45,199
lines that the Islanders have been running, and I think he was. He's

874
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:50,280
been with Casey Cezekis and Simon Holdstrom
all three days in training camp, so

875
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,400
far, and that's just not good
news. My hope was that he would

876
00:57:54,440 --> 00:58:00,199
somehow get to the top line with
Barzol and Horvat. It certainly doesn't look

877
00:58:00,239 --> 00:58:01,960
like it's going to happen out of
the gates. Depending on just how deep

878
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,880
the league, your fantasy league is, I think he could. He's probably

879
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,639
somebody you just leave on the waiver
wire now. But as you mentioned,

880
00:58:08,679 --> 00:58:12,960
two shots per game and one and
a half hits per game while playing twelve

881
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,760
minutes a night is just outstanding peripheral
production on a per minutent basis. This

882
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,119
is a guy, excuse me,
this is a guy who could probably put

883
00:58:22,199 --> 00:58:27,719
up like a two hundred and fifty
shot one hundred and fifty hit season if

884
00:58:27,719 --> 00:58:30,920
he was only playing seventeen eighteen minutes
a night, Like he doesn't need twenty,

885
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,599
even just seventeen or eighteen. It
just really doesn't look like he's going

886
00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:38,559
to get there. To start the
season, Stuck on the I would call

887
00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:40,880
it the fourth line. I'm not
sure they would, but stuck on the

888
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:45,280
fourth line to start the year almost
certainly the second power play unit. It's

889
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,480
just a role, isn't there for
him? Right now? I think he's

890
00:58:49,519 --> 00:58:52,199
still a guy that's putting all those
skills together. I talked about Mike Mathenson

891
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:55,760
being a tools he defenseman. Oliver
Walstrom seems like one of those tools.

892
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:00,039
He forwards like he has the shot
you want, he has the aggressiveness that

893
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:04,480
you want. He's people might see
him as a goalscorer, but he's a

894
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:08,199
very tenacious winger when he wants to
be. So I think he has all

895
00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:12,239
those qualities that you want. I
just don't. It just doesn't look like

896
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,599
the role is going to be there
for him just yet. So it was

897
00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:17,239
a lot of wishful thinking for me
in the offseason. Maybe they run at

898
00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:22,079
bars All, horvat Walstrom top line, and maybe they get there by December

899
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:24,199
or something like that. It doesn't
look like it's going to be happening.

900
00:59:24,719 --> 00:59:31,119
But this is a guy who has
super high end per minute shot rates and

901
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:36,360
super high end per minute hit rates. He just doesn't play enough minutes.

902
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,440
And it's a question of is anybody
on the Islanders going to hit their fantasy

903
00:59:39,519 --> 00:59:44,360
upside right other than that one huge
season Matt bars All had as a rookie

904
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,440
a few years ago. Like,
how many guys outside of their goalies can

905
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:51,679
you say have really hit their fantasy
upside. Maybe Noah dabs in it as

906
00:59:51,679 --> 00:59:53,760
a twenty year old or twenty one
year old defenseman. Other than that,

907
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:59,599
it's just been a lot of underwhelming
seasons. So it's a combinations. Is

908
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:00,960
it the right environment for him,
is he going to get the role,

909
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:04,840
is he going to earn the coaches
trust? I just think there are a

910
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,280
lot of roadblocks for him right now. So unless it's an incredibly I'm still

911
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:13,159
excited about him. In keeper in
dynasty formats, especially dynasty formats like this

912
01:00:13,199 --> 01:00:15,840
is a guy like I would be
holding onto him until he's either on the

913
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,880
top line or he's in the cage
all four years from now or something like

914
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,440
that. Right this is not a
guy because, like I said, his

915
01:00:22,519 --> 01:00:25,079
per minute peripheral production is just way, way too good to give up on.

916
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,559
It's just a matter of when he
gets the role, and it just

917
01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:30,159
doesn't look like it's going to happen
out of the gate this season. Let's

918
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:36,599
just hope it happens maybe around American
Thanksgiving or something like that. Yeah,

919
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,559
you're gonna you're gonna write him to
the grave. You can stay on that

920
01:00:39,559 --> 01:00:44,800
train. I know his underlyings look
good. But I personally am not with

921
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,360
you on on Waltz From, but
I do that his numbers look good,

922
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:52,519
and I actually turned that into a
couple of the pieces were involved. But

923
01:00:52,519 --> 01:00:55,159
I was able to troll wals From
in a couple of other pieces into Timomeyer

924
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:00,679
in one Dynasty league because people were
enamored with those underlying So sometimes it can

925
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,519
be a good thing, as like
a trade asset. Sometimes those rate stats

926
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:08,719
never fully materialized, right. I
hope for a whiles from stake that it

927
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,519
does, but I'm just becoming more
and more skeptical as time goes on.

928
01:01:13,039 --> 01:01:16,119
We'll see. Let's move on to
the next guy, and that's Joseph Wall.

929
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:22,440
He is obviously goalie for Toronto case
people didn't know, but he is

930
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,719
going to be there with Samsunoff,
and they obviously recently signed Martin Jones,

931
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:30,320
and that's going to be a fun
experiment for the Maple Leafs. I know

932
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:35,599
that samsun Off was the guy.
When you look at the underlyings for goal

933
01:01:35,679 --> 01:01:38,639
save above expected, Samsonov was actually
really incredible, almost sixteen goals save above

934
01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:44,760
expected in his forty two Experience appearances
last season. Eric Shaalgren, who has

935
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,840
moved on was also pretty decent,
but Wall was right there at three point

936
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:52,039
four goals above expected, and his
delta Fenwick was actually way better than Samsonov's

937
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:57,119
in his limited seven appearances. I
don't trust Martin Jones at all, and

938
01:01:57,199 --> 01:02:00,320
I don't know that the coaching staff
does too much and give him some opportunity.

939
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:05,599
But if they both Sampsonof and Joanes
struggle, I don't think that they'll

940
01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:07,880
hesitate too much to look to Wall
because he's someone that they have a little

941
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:13,119
bit more invested in long term.
So I'm wondering how you're reading this Toronto

942
01:02:13,199 --> 01:02:17,280
situation. Obviously Samsonov is probably going
to get the first NOD and but it

943
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:21,800
maybe he doesn't represent value for where
people might be drafting a goalie. What

944
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,840
is your take, Mike, Yeah, I think the investment is part of

945
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,559
it. We talked about that with
Jordan Bennington and his contract, and that's

946
01:02:28,599 --> 01:02:31,000
why he might get some run out
of the gate from Saint Louis because they

947
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:34,760
really want to make that money work. It's the opposite in Toronto, right,

948
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:37,039
three and a half million dollars for
just this season for sampson Off and

949
01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:42,880
then he's an unrestricted free agent.
Now. It's a new GM in Toronto,

950
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,119
but they're not typically a team that
will go and spend a lot of

951
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:49,320
money on a goalie, So I
don't know if they would after the season

952
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,960
unless Sampsonof just has a Besna caliber
season, I don't know that they're going

953
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,960
to break the bank for him as
a UFA. So I don't think they

954
01:02:57,039 --> 01:03:00,719
really care if he plays sixty games
and is awesome for them, rate he

955
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,960
only plays twenty five games and isn't
very good, I don't think they care

956
01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:07,519
very much. They just want any
one of their goalies to play well.

957
01:03:07,519 --> 01:03:09,880
You mentioned Samsonof forty two appearances.
I think forty starts last year. It

958
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,719
still doesn't have a season with forty
one starts, which would be half the

959
01:03:13,719 --> 01:03:16,320
season. He didn't play half the
season in the shortened bubble season either.

960
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:21,559
Like, is Samsonov gonna get to
fifty starts this year? I think is

961
01:03:21,559 --> 01:03:24,000
one of those questions. And even
if he gets to fifty, that leaves

962
01:03:24,039 --> 01:03:29,280
thirty two other starts. And something
that I write about at Dauber Hockey is

963
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:32,719
when I'm drafting my fantasy teams and
I'm getting to my third and fourth goalies,

964
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,639
I would rather have the backup on
a good team than the starter on

965
01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:40,119
a bad one. I'd rather have
Wall than I would have any goalie in

966
01:03:40,199 --> 01:03:45,119
San Jose Rights or any goalie in
Chicago. That's just the way it is.

967
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,519
And they're not married to Samsonov,
so it's say, it's the same

968
01:03:49,559 --> 01:03:52,960
thing. It's the same thing with
Bennington, even though the contract situations are

969
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,480
different. Samsonov starts for seven out
of the first eight games and he's got

970
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,199
an eight ninety say percentage. It's
Joseph waltime. He might be the guy

971
01:04:00,239 --> 01:04:05,039
from there on out. Martin Jones
does complicate things. But if it gets

972
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:09,639
to the point where Martin Jones is
getting regular starts for the Toronto may belief,

973
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:14,960
something has gone horrifically wrong with their
season. So I'm not that concerned

974
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,000
about him. Like maybe he gets
a start in November and then a couple

975
01:04:18,079 --> 01:04:23,239
starts in January, but if he
has more than ten starts this year,

976
01:04:24,159 --> 01:04:27,159
something, like I said, something
has gone terribly wrong. So he's not

977
01:04:27,199 --> 01:04:30,840
a guy I'm really that concerned about. I think it's more just have him

978
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,199
around in case one of the guys
gets hurt, so then you then you

979
01:04:34,239 --> 01:04:38,960
have a veteran backup NHL goalie.
He's not the guy that I'm concerned with

980
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:42,480
taking starts, but there's some underperformance
or something like that. So I just

981
01:04:42,519 --> 01:04:45,480
think Samsonov hasn't had a big workload
into season. Yet the team's not married

982
01:04:45,519 --> 01:04:48,840
to him past the season. He's
not making a lot of money while is

983
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,280
a guy that he has another year
on his contract after this, and then

984
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,800
he's still a restrictive free agent,
so he's going to be in the franchise

985
01:04:57,079 --> 01:05:00,840
probably for at least two more seasons
after this one. I just think they

986
01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:02,800
have a lot more incentive to make
it work with him than anybody else.

987
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:06,280
I don't think Martin Jones is a
factor, so I don't want to take

988
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:11,039
sampson Off between the twentieth and twenty
fifth goalies. I would rather wait ten

989
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:13,800
rounds or twelve rounds or whatever it
might be in that fantasy draft and then

990
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,519
grab Wall as a late third or
in early fourth goalie in my fantasy leagues.

991
01:05:17,719 --> 01:05:20,519
Yeah, definitely here, Yet this
is a capital span over here,

992
01:05:20,639 --> 01:05:26,199
just chuckling at those teams that think
that samson Off and Bandichek are going to

993
01:05:26,239 --> 01:05:30,840
be able to take dominant starts for
a year. There is traveled, there's

994
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,880
well traveled, and then there is
David Perran traveled. That's a whole different

995
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:39,440
level for this guy. The wingers
first season in Detroit was a slight step

996
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:45,320
back from his seventy point pace thirties
two fifty six points in a full eighty

997
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,679
two. That could be a more
Detroit problem than a Purran problem, to

998
01:05:48,719 --> 01:05:51,800
be honest with you. He still
gets good hits, good shots. Wouldn't

999
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:57,440
be hard to imagine an increase in
points for Perran this year. How are

1000
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:02,440
you valuing David Perran the Detroit Void
winger? So I'm of two minds here.

1001
01:06:02,679 --> 01:06:08,119
One is I think he's just new
due for natural positive regression, because,

1002
01:06:08,199 --> 01:06:10,079
like you said, he took a
step back last year. But if

1003
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:14,159
you look at some of the reasons
why. His individual points percentage, which

1004
01:06:14,199 --> 01:06:17,960
is just the percentage of goals he
gets a point on when he's on the

1005
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:23,440
ice, it was fifty three percent
last year. He hadn't been below sixty

1006
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,079
percent in any season since the twenty
thirteen lockouts, so it's been over a

1007
01:06:27,159 --> 01:06:32,239
decade and he's typically around sixty five
percent. So those are that's one of

1008
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:38,440
those stats that guys can't produce high
numbers year after year, like Connor McDavid

1009
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,079
will be around eighty percent year after
year because he's Connor McDavid sold kill rolcaps

1010
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:45,800
Off and all those types of guys. But for the non super league guys,

1011
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,400
they're typically pretty stable. But then
you'll just have wild fluctuations. So

1012
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,679
there are seasons where David prom has
been in the mid seventies and now he's

1013
01:06:53,679 --> 01:06:56,519
had one season where he's in the
mid fifties. If he gets back to

1014
01:06:56,639 --> 01:07:01,159
sixty five percent, he could probably
add five or six points by just natural

1015
01:07:01,199 --> 01:07:05,719
regression in individual points percentage alone.
And then you look at his power play

1016
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:11,440
production, it was a six year
low and points per minute on the power

1017
01:07:11,519 --> 01:07:15,480
play by twenty eight percent, so
wasn't just a six year low, it

1018
01:07:15,519 --> 01:07:19,559
was a six year low by far. But then the team went and added

1019
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:24,679
Alex the brink Cat and Shane gost
Despair and whatever people might think of Shane

1020
01:07:24,719 --> 01:07:27,719
gost Despair as an overall defense,
and he's a guy that can run a

1021
01:07:27,719 --> 01:07:30,599
good top power play. I think
that's a big boost for them on the

1022
01:07:30,599 --> 01:07:32,880
blue line for the top power play
unit. And they add a real good

1023
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,280
finisher and Alex to brink CAATs.
So now all of a sudden, you

1024
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:41,280
have Larkin, Pearan Raymond, the
Brink Cat, and gost Despair that has

1025
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,480
the makings of a decent power play
unit. So I think there's gonna be

1026
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,519
some regression positive regression in his power
play production as well. Just the brain

1027
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:53,000
Cat and gostep spaar making the power
play better, and just a rebounding individual

1028
01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:58,039
points percentage has me giving him,
has ME giving him a projection of over

1029
01:07:58,119 --> 01:08:01,719
sixty points. So I think David
Prom is a sixty point threat this season.

1030
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,880
And he's also a guy that can
put up two hundred shots and one

1031
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:09,360
hundred hits. He's just one of
those boring one hundred and fiftieth pick two

1032
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,639
hundred pick overall. Whatever it is
in your particular draft that you can probably

1033
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,439
plug in in case there's an injury, some results on your team, or

1034
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,159
in case a younger guy underperforms or
gets moved down the lineup or anything like

1035
01:08:20,199 --> 01:08:25,319
that, then you got David Prom
waiting to go. And if the powerplay

1036
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:28,079
is even better than we think it's
going to be, he could probably be

1037
01:08:28,119 --> 01:08:31,800
a top one hundred player in multiicap
formats. The one thing that concerns me

1038
01:08:32,039 --> 01:08:36,560
is him playing with Andrew Cops so
far in training cam Copp was real bad

1039
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,880
last season. He typically not been
as good as a center as he has

1040
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,000
been as a winger. If Cop
doesn't turn to his game around and parn

1041
01:08:45,119 --> 01:08:48,119
is playing with him for sixty sixty
five percent of the year, I have

1042
01:08:48,199 --> 01:08:51,880
some questions about how well he'll produce
it even strength, but I do think

1043
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:56,680
that he's in for some natural positive
regression. I think sixty points is an

1044
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:00,000
expectation for him if he can get
back to the eighty game mark eighty games

1045
01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:02,399
played. So I really like David
Pronze just one of those safety valve guys

1046
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,520
that you take as insurance in case, like I said, in case one

1047
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:10,920
of your younger wingers doesn't live up
to expectations or somebody else gets hurt or

1048
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:15,920
something like that. Yeah, definitely. And the last guy I'm gonna ask

1049
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:21,159
you about mikey Asimott, and he's
someone who was pretty traveled last year.

1050
01:09:21,159 --> 01:09:25,039
Before last season, he played one
game exactly in the NHL, and he

1051
01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:30,199
played fifty four last season, split
amongst Winnipeg, San Jose and Tampa Bay.

1052
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:32,680
And he was all over the place
on those teams in terms of deployment,

1053
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,560
and obviously the depth chart and San
Jose was pretty low when he was

1054
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:42,000
there, but overall twenty three point
pace in his two stints. But I

1055
01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:45,079
think the big thing is two hits, over two hits per game and over

1056
01:09:45,119 --> 01:09:48,039
two shots per game, and actually
a decent number of blocks almost half a

1057
01:09:48,079 --> 01:09:51,960
block per game, which is pretty
good peripheral coverage. He's an excellent play

1058
01:09:53,039 --> 01:09:55,920
driver. When you look at his
underlines, he really is someone you can

1059
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,560
put on a line and he can
help give defensive responsibility. And you look,

1060
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,279
the lines in Tampa are a little
bit thinned out. Obviously, we

1061
01:10:01,319 --> 01:10:05,000
know that in the main four of
point Kutra, Stamkos, even Hegel's in

1062
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:09,760
that group now, but they might
blend that top six and he might get

1063
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:14,079
some opportunity in there. Obviously,
other options are guys like Sherry Soarelli is

1064
01:10:14,079 --> 01:10:16,319
going to play center, and then
Nick Paul Tenner one of those, one

1065
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:19,119
of those guys is going to get
some producing opportunities and it might be a

1066
01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:23,920
Smont. I'm guessing that's where you're
going with this, some deployment with those

1067
01:10:24,079 --> 01:10:28,399
big four. What do you think
about a Smont? First thinks first I

1068
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,359
just think he just to talk about
the bottom six. I think he's gonna

1069
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,840
I was actually looking at the line
combinations this morning and they had Sheery on

1070
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:40,159
the second line with stamp cost and
Soarelli and then on the third and Semon

1071
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:45,239
on the fourth. But it just
highlights their depth problem at that position.

1072
01:10:45,279 --> 01:10:48,000
Past Kutrov right, no offense to
Connor Shery. I do like him as

1073
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,840
a player. He's a guy I
would probably want him my fourth line if

1074
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,239
I was a Cup contender. I
don't want him on my second line.

1075
01:10:54,239 --> 01:10:57,439
If I'm on Cup contender. I
don't think Connor Shery's a long term answer

1076
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,520
on that second line. The other
thing is is I just think he's gonna

1077
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,039
play his way ahead of Tanner j
know, like he did that last year.

1078
01:11:03,079 --> 01:11:06,479
Now he can probably talk that out
to Jau coming back from injury and

1079
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:12,600
he wasn't the same guy. But
Simon legitimately played well in Winnipeg, in

1080
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,960
San Jose and in Tampa Bay,
and you saw him get rewarded with that.

1081
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,840
He got sent to the World Championships
last year for Team USA. Now

1082
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:23,279
I know World Championships, they're not
sending their a roster maybe not even their

1083
01:11:23,319 --> 01:11:27,000
B roster. But just the fact
that he made it there when he was

1084
01:11:27,039 --> 01:11:30,000
a guy that was on waivers like
seven months earlier, should probably tell us

1085
01:11:30,079 --> 01:11:34,359
that he was a better player than
maybe he got credit for earlier in his

1086
01:11:34,399 --> 01:11:39,760
career. He just two things.
One is he shoots a lot. He

1087
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:44,479
was tenth in the league. It's
shot rate last year per minute in line

1088
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,640
with guys like Tyler Toffoley and Nasm
Caddri on a per minute pieces, so

1089
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,279
he'll shoot a lot. And Walstrom
even at twelve minutes at night, he

1090
01:11:51,279 --> 01:11:56,000
could probably put up two shots per
game, which is useful enough in fantasy

1091
01:11:56,039 --> 01:11:59,840
when you're looking at in very deep
leagues. He does drive the play extremely

1092
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,520
while or he did last year.
As you mentioned, The problem is,

1093
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:08,079
I don't think he's a terribly skilled
player. There's a difference between good four

1094
01:12:08,199 --> 01:12:11,760
checking, being able to clear the
zone, meshing well with your teammates and

1095
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,720
all that, and being able to
actually score goals like those are two completely

1096
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,079
different things. Simont did not have
good shooting percentages in the HL, has

1097
01:12:20,119 --> 01:12:25,039
not had good shooting percentages in the
NHL. I think he's probably a guy

1098
01:12:25,079 --> 01:12:30,239
that just won't ever score thirty goals
unless something goes really really something really goes

1099
01:12:30,319 --> 01:12:32,800
his way gets really lucky for a
year. But I just think the peripherals

1100
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,640
and the hits that he can bring
in deeper formats will certainly play well.

1101
01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:43,199
And I think he might be their
second best right winger after Nikita Kutrop.

1102
01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:45,840
I think he's better this year.
I think he's definitely better than Tanners,

1103
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,079
you know, and they're gonna they're
gonna try him out on the fourth line,

1104
01:12:48,079 --> 01:12:50,840
but we saw it last year.
He just bul rushed his way to

1105
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:55,199
their third line because he was playing
better than anybody else that they had on

1106
01:12:55,239 --> 01:12:57,960
the roster. And I think that's
going to be the case again this year.

1107
01:12:58,039 --> 01:13:00,199
I think he's in line for at
least third line, and it's if

1108
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:03,720
not getting up to the second line
at times, because I could see him

1109
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:09,039
just wreaking havoc on the four check
with Anthony Sarelli. So he's a guy

1110
01:13:09,159 --> 01:13:13,800
that he really opened my eyes last
year just to how good he is.

1111
01:13:14,359 --> 01:13:16,239
I don't know if he's ever going
to be like a sixty five or seventy

1112
01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:18,520
point winger, but I think he's
definitely a guy that can put up like

1113
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:24,840
fifteen goals thirty five points in a
minimal role. But then bring the periphles

1114
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,840
in the shots and the hits that
will play well, especially in salary cap

1115
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,880
formats where he's so cheap. Ladies
and gentlemen, we have reached the Drew

1116
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:36,760
O'Connor portion of the program. Everybody
shout out loud, what team Drew O'Connor

1117
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:41,840
plays for? Nope, sorry,
you're thinking of Logan O'Connor. Drew O'Connor

1118
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,479
actually plays for the Pittsburgh Penguins.
He is in his fourth year there.

1119
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,720
The good news is this guy's rate
stats are tremendous. His shots per sixty

1120
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:55,079
at even strength for the Penguins last
year was fourth out of twenty three qualifiers

1121
01:13:55,119 --> 01:13:58,840
on the team, and his hits
per sixty what's six. The bad news

1122
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,119
is he played below ten minutes a
night. But what do you see for

1123
01:14:01,359 --> 01:14:08,439
Drew O'Connor for the coming year and
why should I consider drafting him? The

1124
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:13,000
first thing is he's it's that shot
right, Like you mentioned, he just

1125
01:14:13,039 --> 01:14:15,640
put us up a lot of shots
in a very low amount of minutes.

1126
01:14:16,039 --> 01:14:19,960
I was looking at his HL performance
seventy three HL games, he had two

1127
01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:25,239
hundred forty five shots so over an
eighty two game season, you're looking at

1128
01:14:25,279 --> 01:14:28,399
like two hundred and eighty shots or
something like that. That's just monster shot

1129
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,640
production. Now, obviously he's not
gonna get there playing ten minutes a game,

1130
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,119
which he has been so far at
his Pittsburgh ten yere. But that

1131
01:14:33,239 --> 01:14:36,880
Jake Genzel injury I think is something
to that we really have to mention here.

1132
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:41,439
Now. Karl Dubis came out and
said like a month ago that they

1133
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,800
only expect him to maybe miss five
games and then Getzel should be back.

1134
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,680
So maybe Genzel's back on the top
line by the end of October, right,

1135
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:51,600
and it's no big deal. But
injuries linger injuries. Guys have setbacks.

1136
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,960
Guys aren't the same player that they
are when they come back from injury.

1137
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,039
We talked about Nikolai Eilers just earlier
on this podcast. Look at what

1138
01:14:59,079 --> 01:15:01,720
happened to him last year, Right, played twenty two minutes, got hurt,

1139
01:15:02,039 --> 01:15:04,920
came back, and then was playing
fourteen fifteen minutes a game. I

1140
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,720
don't think that's gonna happen with Genzel. That's not what I'm assuming here.

1141
01:15:09,079 --> 01:15:13,520
It's just something that happens all the
time with injuries. The shot rate is

1142
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,079
one two is that opportunity. So
far, I think in camp they've had

1143
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:20,560
Vinnie Hinnis Strozza playing alongside Sidney Crosby, which kind of tells you that they're

1144
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:26,199
really looking for guys to play alongside
Sidney Crosby until Jake Getzel gets back.

1145
01:15:26,399 --> 01:15:29,079
I like Henna Stroza, I don't
think he's the answer. He was a

1146
01:15:29,079 --> 01:15:31,399
guy that I was high on when
he was in Arizona, and I thought

1147
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,319
he might break through and Buffalo,
but it just never materialized. And I'm

1148
01:15:34,359 --> 01:15:38,960
gonna be honest, if you're playing
with Tage Thompson or Dylan Cousins or even

1149
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:43,560
now Casey Middlestadd or whatever and you
can't produce, I have real questions whether

1150
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,960
Sidney Crosby, even Sidney Crosby at
this point, is a guy that can

1151
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,720
make Hitnistros and produced. I just
don't think Hennistros is going to be the

1152
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:53,000
answer there. And they just don't
have a lot of options other than that.

1153
01:15:53,079 --> 01:15:55,720
Like they seem to want to put
Riley Smith with a Genny Maulkin,

1154
01:15:56,359 --> 01:15:59,960
which I think makes sense because Riley
Smith is is He's a good playmate.

1155
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:01,520
I don't think he gets enough credit
for that. So I think he can

1156
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,079
help set up Mulkin, and he'll
help Maulkin more in that sense than he

1157
01:16:05,079 --> 01:16:09,800
would help Crosby. I think putting
Joe Connor would Crosby just makes a lot

1158
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,760
of sense because O'Connor likes to shoot, and they need some guy that can

1159
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:18,199
shoot, typically not a high percentage
shooter. Hopefully Sidney Crosby can fix that.

1160
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,560
We'll see how trading camp goes,
but I don't think it'll be that

1161
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:26,159
long until we see Droue connor skating
with Sidney Crosby. Now whether that lasts

1162
01:16:26,359 --> 01:16:29,640
but won't last once Jake Gensel gets
back. But again, if there's any

1163
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,640
sort of setback with his injury,
or maybe he has to take another couple

1164
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,720
of weeks, maybe they expected five
games miss but it's actually fifteen games missed.

1165
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:40,319
I think due O'Connor could have some
sneaky value at least through the first

1166
01:16:40,359 --> 01:16:43,399
couple of weeks this season, if
not the first month, depending on how

1167
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,479
things go with Gensel. And again
in those salary cap formats where you're looking

1168
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:50,640
for the real cheap guys that can
produce even if you only get fifteen good

1169
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,920
games out of him, I think
Joe Connor is a guy that you'll want

1170
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:59,479
to keep an eye on in Pittsburgh. Wonderful, wonderful deep digs on some

1171
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,960
of these guys. Michael, why
don't you tell people how they can keep

1172
01:17:02,039 --> 01:17:05,359
up with all of your work over
at Dauber and anywhere else you want to

1173
01:17:05,359 --> 01:17:10,039
plug. Yeah, like you said, I write over at Dauber Hockey Dauber

1174
01:17:10,119 --> 01:17:13,760
hockey dot com. We have our
fantasy Guide out. I contributed a few

1175
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,479
parts to a Dauber still does most
of the work himself, but it's over

1176
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:21,479
at Dauber Hockey. So if you're
looking for we have projections for several hundreds

1177
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:26,479
of players. We have depth charts
of prospect prospects that might make their way

1178
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,520
up, sleepers and breakouts and disappointments
and all that. Anybody needs some help,

1179
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,239
just head on over Dabara hockey dot
com. I have articles up every

1180
01:17:32,239 --> 01:17:35,720
Tuesday and Thursday morning, and then
every other Friday if you're looking for my

1181
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:40,520
specific days. Also, as I
mentioned earlier, Victor and I are both

1182
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:44,319
now at Lead Prospects, So I'm
at ep ringside dot com. I believe

1183
01:17:44,319 --> 01:17:45,600
you have to have a membership there, but there are a lot of great

1184
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:49,520
writers that make it and that make
it very well worthwhile. I'll be there

1185
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:55,159
a couple of times a week doing
fantasy profiles and role changes and those types

1186
01:17:55,199 --> 01:17:58,600
of things, so you can catch
me there. Lastly, once the season

1187
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,479
gets started, I actually folk us
on daily fantasy hockey more than anything else,

1188
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,119
so draft kings and vandueling those types
of things, and I do that

1189
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:10,079
over at stochastic dot com. I
usually I'll have articles and videos up usually

1190
01:18:10,119 --> 01:18:13,560
Tuesday, Thursdays, and Saturdays at
the very least, if not more,

1191
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,319
throughout the week. Lots of ways
to catch me and whether you're just looking

1192
01:18:16,319 --> 01:18:19,760
for season on fantasy or daily fantasy
or what have you, I write about

1193
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:26,000
it all. So a whole lot
going on this season outstanding. Thank you

1194
01:18:26,039 --> 01:18:28,920
so much for coming on the show
today. Yeah, thanks guys, Thanks

1195
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,840
Jesse, thanks Victor. Appreciate you
guys having me. Good luck to you

1196
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,399
guys this season. I don't know
what it is. I'm really excited for

1197
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,800
this year. This is the most
excited I've been for the start of a

1198
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:42,319
hockey season, probably since before COVID, And maybe that's part of it,

1199
01:18:42,359 --> 01:18:45,239
is just a little bit of a
return to normalcy. But yeah, I'm

1200
01:18:45,239 --> 01:18:57,439
really jazzed about this season. Good
luck in your league and good luck well

1201
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:01,920
good talking about some draft. It's
almost draft time. We've been talking to

1202
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,960
a lot of teams, but coming
up a couple more teams, a whole

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lot of draft talk. A couple
of things to remind you of before we

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get out of here today. Fantracks
dot com is the place to play all

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of your fantasy sports. They've got
ten different ones, and if you're getting

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ready to start a fantasy hockey league, if it's that time, you can

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start yourself up a free one over
at fan tracks. Got all the features

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that you're gonna want, literally hundreds
of scoring settings. Yes, if you're

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sitting up a dynasty league, it's
the place you're gonna want to go because

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of the customization, the deep rookie
pools, all those types of things.

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I think right now too, there's
a tweet out there that if you retweet

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it, you can win an autographed
Austin Matthews jersey. So that's pretty cool.

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Good things for them to do.
We are part of the Fantracks podcast

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network. Fan tracks HQ is the
content arm of fantracks, and they have

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all kinds of cool stuff. They
are fantasy hockey articles for days coming out

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right now in the written form.
You should check out some of the great

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new authors that we have on the
site. There are other podcasts, especially

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fantasy football and fantasy baseball related that
you can be checking out on the network

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as well. We're part of the
Dauber Podcast Network in addition to the Fantracks

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one. And you heard Michael Clifford, a friend of ours from the Dauber

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side of the house. Of course, Victor writes over there at Dauber you

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should be listening to all the cool
stuff they have there, including what Victor

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does over at Dauber Prospects as an
editor. Victor has a second podcast on

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01:20:35,399 --> 01:20:41,760
the Dauber Podcast Network. It's called
Dauber Prospect Report, and he does it

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with Peter Harling and they talk about
all kinds of cool things on there.

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It's a good compliment to what we
do here on this show. I do

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a second podcast it's called Dynasty Sports
Life, and on it I do all

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kinds of different dynasty sports, not
just hockey, but baseball, basketball,

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football. This week, I'm going
to talking with a guy Ksey Bubba,

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who is a man about town.
He podcasts all over the place, he

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writes all over the place, and
he and I are going to look back

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on the fantasy baseball season and see
what we have learned, especially as it

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might apply to our dynasty baseball league. So you can follow that dynasty sports

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life out there wherever podcasts are sold. It's not sold, it's free,

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but you know what I mean.
Also, you should be following Victor and

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myself on X at fan Hockey Life
is me at Victor Nuno twelve as Victor.

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You know, I'm starting to think
people are always complaining that they call

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01:21:35,079 --> 01:21:40,199
it X. I think that complaining
about Twitter being renamed X as the new

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01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:44,479
complaining about airplane food from jokes of
twenty five years ago. That's just my

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opinion. Also, you should rate
reviews, subscribe to this podcast. There

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01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,600
are many places you can do it. You could do it over on Apple

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01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:56,800
Podcasts, Spotify, wherever else you
get your podcast. Thank you for listening.

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We're ready for you to draft.
We're ready to draft ourselves and until

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next time, Until next time,
keep living that fantasy hockey alife.
