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This is the Downbeat on ninety seven
to one The Freak. All right,

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good morning, seven thirty four o'clock. It's the Downbeat six to ten am

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each and every morning right here on
ninety seven one The Freak with KT Danny.

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My name is Mike Siroy, JJ
Jackson holding it down. If you

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want to talk to JJ Jackson and
talk to us possibly in the next segment

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eight o'clock. May it take some
I don't know ranger calls, preferably cowboy

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calls. Fine sports stuff. If
it's on your mind. We're gonna review

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our three for all predictions from last
night's Cowboys victory over the Chargers out at

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so far. But after we're done
with that, if you want to chat,

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might pop you on the air,
have a little fun with you Dingo's

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Morning News about an hour away,
and then uh, you know. It

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all leads up to the hot mop. If you want to leave us a

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We do encourage you to download that
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dog, speed walking your dog,
trying to get back in time for Cowboy

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Kickoff, whatever you so choose.
Let's say we take a minor sports break

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and we get some local news and
we do in the scuttle button. Thank

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you, Mikey. Here we go
State Fair shooting and here it's kt with

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the scuttle button. Yep, take
it, smoke Dog, take it,

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yeah, smoke Dog. You know
he hit that right guts. I've got

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these written down if I ever get
if I not get to or have to

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bring it back from break. Yeah, this is the downbeat with Dingu,

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Smoke Dog and mister Sunroof. You
don't get the reference, do you know?

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Is that back to Derek Jeters.
Well, it's from the commercial where

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you know how like there's an argument
between a husband and wife and the claim

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something and the wife throws the challenge
flag and they look at the instant replay

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and she's like, oh, the
car's all wet. And he's like,

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oh, somebody left the sun roo
She's like, you left the sunroof up

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and he goes, I didn't touch
the sun roof. Whatever. Everybody knows

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you're mister sunroof. He goes,
I'm mister sunroof. It's like I think

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Mikey's mister sunroof. Now that I
understand it, I can't argue with that.

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Yeah, yeah, you're a guy
that likes a nice sunroof. I

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bet I don't know that I've ever
owned a vehicle with the sun roof.

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You have a jeep, Your entire
car is a sun roof. I don't

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ever take the thing off, though, gets more ansle dude, if you

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ever had a wrangler, you do
it once and realize nope, no,

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never again. If you want to
make it rain directly where you are located,

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take your top off, take your
heavy top off, your geet,

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make it rain. Here's k T
with a scuttle butt. Cameron Turner is

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twenty two. He's the guy who
was accused of shooting three people Saturday night

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at the State Fair of Texas,
but he told police he was acting to

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defend himself and his fan family.
Before you even say the story, I

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want to say I'm going to be
hard to budge off. This person is

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a moron and I hate them,
Okay, but I want to be fair.

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I want to just let you know
my starting position. We're starting off

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with twenty two year old Cameron Turner
as a moron. Yes, okay,

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now, he said he's acting to
defend himself and his family. Classic plot

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line from Fast and the Furious.
The problem is. The officer at the

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scene wrote that Cameron Turner was by
himself when the shooting happened. The officer

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also wrote that Turner said he was
attempting to protect his family when a group

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of men approached him, and he
went into defense mode and shot three or

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four times. Now, surveillance footage
shows him buying a water bottle from one

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of the concession stands. That's two
tickets, by the way, that's it,

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No, not good value, two
dollars water bottles, and when he

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turned around, one of the victims
was approaching him. Both males stopped walking

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and appeared to exchange a few words. That's when Cameron Turner brandished a gun

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and began shooting. The shots struck
the first victim and then two others,

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one of those being the lady on
the cleaning crew. Turner reiterated to detectives

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during a later interview that he went
into survival mode and felt threatened by the

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man, so he shot him.
So that's it. Okay, moron,

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Now, Danny, what you said
he might have a case. I'd like

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to hear your take. It depends
on how good his attorney is, because

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I do believe that in the state
of Texas it's probably slightly easier to prove

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self defense and fear of fear of
life than it is maybe in other's And

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if he's got a really good attorney
and you know how they can do,

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man, they can spend these spend
spend the interpretation of even surveillance footage in

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their favor. You know, he
of course he's gonna have a case.

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He's already sounds to me like he's
already lawyered up and is in the language

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of the Affidavid is you know,
unless the Affidavid is just his direct comments,

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then heck even better for his case. I'm not saying I agree with

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it. I'm not worried about David. I'm telling you this guy's an idiot.

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There's no physical violence toward him,
no push, not on the camera

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footage that we have. And why
does he have a gun in there?

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And does he have a concealed license
which we read the flimsy rules of the

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fair that you may or may not
be allowed in with. Okay, that's

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fair rules, but you don't need
a concealed license to carry a concealed weapon

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in this state. If this other
guy punches him in the face, then

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fine, you are now threatened.
But when the guy hurls sticks and stones

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at you, unless the sticks and
stones are I'm about to kill you,

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and then all you do, all
you have to do is create doubt in

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one juror, you know, and
you pull out a thing in a crowded

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incredibly crowded food courts. Aren't blasting
insane and saying that this is normal behavior.

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I'm playing total deb advocate right here. But he's all. They'll probably

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also argue the fact that he wasn't
seeking out to hurt anybody. They these

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men approached him. We don't know
what was said. He claims that,

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you know, they they've said that
they were about to kill me, or

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they were about to whatever or harmed
me, and he stopped the threat and

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he starts spraying. It's a lot
easier to prove in this state, man,

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I'm telling you. The wild card
element to me is we don't know

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what happened earlier in the day.
Was there some type of altercation early on?

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Were they fighting over him, who
was in line first at the gondola

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and that and a good lawyer will
be able to cleverly create that narrative for

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him and his defense and present him
in the best light possible. And if

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this kid has no priors, you're
gonna look at his history, how you

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know what kind of kid he was, and testimony about him and stuff like

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that. I mean this, this
he's got a case. Now. It's

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insane because he wasn't attacking the person
I know it isn't. Do you mean

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he wasn't attacking the first No,
Look, he wasn't. He wasn't on

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the offensive. He was buying a
bottle of water and these two people approached

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him. There's where he automatically has
a defense, and a good lawyer can

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spin this to create doubt in one
jeur. I believe it's obscene that that

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is anything close to a reasonable defense
for pulling out a gun and shooting.

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I don't disagree with hitting a poor
Venezuelan woman who's been here for five months,

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do not disagree with what the hell
planet do we live on? Seems

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reckless And there's a whole thing about
getting in and that's what they're probably trying

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to figure out, right now how
did he get in? But the fact

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that that many shots would have been
fired, if three or four it said

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three or four in the affidavit.
But whatever, through all that mud that,

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yes, he'll probably be found guilty, but it'll probably be for lesser

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charge. Yeah, lesser charge,
reduced sentence, probation, all that stuff,

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because someone cut in front of him
at the mustard tub for his corn

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dog. Yeah, that's my mustard
pump. No, it's mine? Are

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you disrespecting me? I'm gonna go
get some water because I'm gonna have to

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shoot you right now. But I
hate it, you know, you just

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want to know that if it was, it is odd. He's defect defending

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his family. Who's not appearing in
your picture. And then the police officer

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said there was no he was alone. Shaky. We'll have more updates as

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they unfold. I didn't want to
read this quote though, from Milton Whitley,

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who sold funnel cakes at the fair
for thirty three years. He said

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he doesn't want the shooting to deter
people from enjoying what's left of the fair.

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Let's get out there and finish the
fair strong, he said, let's

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do it. What's that one incident, take away the join pleasure that fair

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goes over joyed for so many years. Funnel cake Man tows the company line.

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Yeah, get back out of here
of the fair. You know money.

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He's right, this was an isolated
incident. It was it was unlikely

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that a gun was gonna The cops
don't even know how he got the gun

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in the last report that I saw. If I'm just being honest, and

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maybe I'm a cynical a whole,
I know, but if you said a

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day of the opening day the fair
opens and we're just making some Vegas ods,

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maybe we're making a prop bet here
and there will there be a shooting

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at this year's state Fair, I
would have said yes, and it wouldn't

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have been it. I would have
thought about it twice. Yeah, Sam,

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even though one hasn't happened in thirty
five years. Yeah, I still

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just say yes. And would you
have would you bring your family into any

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place where shooting happened seventy two hours
ago? I mean, I don't know

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one hundred and sixty thousand people did
on Sunday? Yeah, sure as hell

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did. I mean, who cares? Right, We're safe. I think

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it's probably the safest time to go
because height more heightened awareness. And I

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think they installed they went back to
maybe the old older school metal detectors,

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did they I think so, And
they had Italian bs. They tightened up

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some gates and stuff like that,
so more secured perimeter, better security.

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It's probably the safest time to go
with Sunday. I'm not living fear guy,

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but I didn't really want to go
anyway, and I'm just gonna go

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sit in the food court where some
idiot pulls out a gun and shoots arbitrarily.

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I hate it. It's just so
aggravating. It's dumb. It's dumb.

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But yes, will it affect anything? I really doubt it. Don't

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worry. Your funnel cakes will sell. You'll make your nut that you make

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with your little fried cakes, little
fried cakes. They're way more than that.

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No, they're okay, there you
go, fire off the hate text

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funnel cakes. It's just fried.
It's fat. It's a reconfigured donut.

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Yes, that's all it is,
guys, I mean yes, if you

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put one in front of me,
I'll give a little eat, a little

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piece of it. It's pretty damn
good. Doctor them up, though,

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what do they do know? What
powdered shut some of they have flavors and

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things like that. They have flavors
and chocolate. They discuss strawberry. They're

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disgusting. We're all fat Donuttel cakes
are disgusting. Yes, that's the worst

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take we've had on the show today. Oh, and that's up there with

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and that, and that's in contention
with yesterday's The mass singer's not that great

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from a guy who never watched the
Mask sing, I don't need to see

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You haven't seen the time Kermit came
out of the box. I don't need

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to see people dressed up in oversize
Marty Grass costume singing. And I gotta

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guess who it is. Oh,
it's James Vanderbeek. Oh. Oh,

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watch the video of the time Kermit
pops out, James vanderbe when Kermit popped

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out, Holy crap. Yeah.
Oh, when Kermit popped out and started

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laughing, it was amazing. I
want to see Kermit. I'll do it

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the old school way on Sesame Street, like a damn man, where we

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learn right and learn things. Next
story, let's go here. We get

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a new restaurant opening in Fort Worth
in November, and it's coming from the

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pitmasters of the place called Goldies,
which won one Texas Monthly Best Texas Barbecue.

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I've been very interesting in Goldies.
Hey, I'm listening Goldies. Yeah,

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one number one and shocked the barbecue
world. Yes, and apparently it's

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very small two days a week.
I think they're only open hard to get

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to hard run out of food in
thirty minutes. You gotta be their weight

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all morning to like get in there
at ten am to maybe get your fingers

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on some brisky. But Kevin is
gonna tell us more on the new opening.

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Well, this new place that's opening
in November and Fort Worth is just

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Ribs. They also only have fries
in mac and cheese, and it's gonna

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be cold Ribbies. So Ribbies is
like a brother of Goldies, and it's

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fading rib It's been just descrived.
It's being described as like a wingstop and

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a raising canes combined, but for
ribs. Really, they're gonna sell five

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varieties of ribs. You're gonna have
your dry rum, you're gonna have your

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sweet, you're spicy, your tangy, and they're gonna have a fifth option

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that's gonna be kind of a rotating
rub or sauce. Uh now they say

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it go these ribs is the second
highest seller, so behind and brisket of

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course, so be on the lookout
coming in November and four worth for rib

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for ribbies. My curating can't afford
to take another hit after the funnel cake

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discussion. Oh so I will say
this very mildly that I'm I'm not a

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huge rib guy. I don't like
my hands getting the messy though. Okay,

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ever, I'm kind of with you
there we are. The cratings are

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plummeting. I just feel bang for
the buck. The meat, I mean,

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it's hit and miss. You can
get a perfect rib. God really

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well, there's not just a bunch
of globules of blarred on each end of

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them. I hate that with the
bone, the bone pieces at the end.

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I hate the bone pieces. But
sometimes you get a rib and it

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costs quite a bit of money and
you get a quarter inch by the meat,

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and then you're like, well,
surely the other side the meat bomb

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is and then you get the same
and then you have to get the top

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of the bone rib meat. That's
where you get the best stuff. Now,

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it's such a crapshoot to get a
good rib in my opinion that I

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typically just avoid them. If there's
a variety of Texas barbecue choices, yeah,

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and I'll go with brisket. I
like some some of these places make

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incredible sausages too, Dude. I
will always do brisket and sausage, and

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I feel like that will determine for
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because the sausage can be incredibly unique, and brisket pretty much tells your story.

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Yep. But there's people hearing this
that say ribs are the they are

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and all be all answer to how
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for true hardcore barbecue people that is
probably the that's the touchstone of a great

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barbecue spot is their ribs and will
probably be second. Right now, I

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am dying for a rib. Eat
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A pile of bones? I apologize
or did a food story at seven

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thirty cause it gets a hungry dude, and I know I forget and I

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forgot my kind bars today. I
was going to eat him like a rib

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though, and pretend. Yeah,
just simulate, h I'll come interested in

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Soroy Industry's breakfast ribs. Okay,
we're working on our proprietary breakfast rub.

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What makes it a breakfast rib.
We're working on that. When actively where

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all up here in the dome breakfast
Ribs stay tuned. We're to open it

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right next to the rib and right
across from Ribs USA where George Where George

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was invited to go eat lunch by
Jack Black, and he just sheepishly declined,

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Nah, I'm good, not for
lunch. I mean, look,

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life is full of missteps and regret. That's got to be top five for

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him. Yes, said no,
Yes, number one having lunch with Jack

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Black. Number two having lunch with
Jack Black at a place called Ribs USA.

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Right, it was a miscalculation by
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yes, we're getting some text feedback. Pork is ten times more flavorful than

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brisket, chicken, turkey, et
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think everyone. That's the thing about
food is everyone has opinions and it's all

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out. I don't food shame.
One hundred per Texas barbecue is based on

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brisket and sausage. Okay, I
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factor there? Yeah, idea that
a funnel cake would draw you off side,

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though, let me continue reading.
Kevin, I'm with you, Mike,

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funnel cake can go f itself.
Yeah, that's that one guy who

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Yeah, who what goes dolls Troy's
events. We're the only voter in the

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Dallas Observer recent poll that what are
you going to do another marble race on

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Twitchy? Maybe pretty soon marble races
may return. Let me know the next

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about your upcoming events. I want
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number. There's just time to Somebody
else said funnel cakes are disgusting? Is

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a ben and skin show take terrible
way to go? Mike, Well was

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that I've never heard that day?
Okay, well then this guy doesn't know.

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I think funnel cakes are delicious,
and I'll you can have hours you

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can be in Mikey's funnel cake and
we don't have We'll have your brisket.

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Yeah, I'll tray give my whole
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speaking of brisket, you can screw
up brisket. Yes, that's why I

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think barbecue joint should be judged on
their brisket. And you can get subpar

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brisket at a great brisket place depending
on where where you are in line.

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I don't like where I get my
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at barbecue places, because they get
it right somehow. Turkey is a hard

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thing to get right. Yeah,
I never do turkey at barbecue. I

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know it can be good, but
I'm salivating over the good good. If

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you're getting a two meat plate,
you're getting brisket and brisk and sausage,

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brisketting sausage. Every Damn, I've
soured on sausage. I love him over

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time. Although I like sausage,
I've soured on it. I think sausage

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is the most diverse food at these
barbecue joints where it changes the most.

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Like I live a Cliff Lockhart.
I love their sausage. Do they have

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a jalapeno sausage? I don't.
They all have a cheddar sausage. I

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don't want it. I don't like
the jilopeno. I don't want cheddar in

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it, but I do want it
spicy. But I don't love Lockhart's brisket.

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To be honest, I wish I
did. Because it's fifty feet from

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my house. You just go in
there and get a pile of sauce.

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Now, I do get the brisket
in hopes that I just get a better

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cut and like, fine, maybe
this one's amazing. That's the thing,

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man, you know what. And
I'm with you on this. You and

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I hate gristle and fat. Yes, I hate it. Yeah, there's

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nothing you do. Okay, good, some people love it. Flavor come

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from. I ain't gotta get your
fat, Mari. It's okay, I

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get that, but I just don't
like the texture of it. I like

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the way it feels. It feels
like you're just eating like this weird glue,

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salty glue. I don't want it. I hate it in steak now

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in a properly doune brisket. Sometimes
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I'm okay with it now, like
a huge one. No, I'm

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talking about the blob that just like
gelatinous, like just that. He's nasty.

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He's a nasty bit. He is
a nasty bitch. Your brother is

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a nasty bit. Cash Siroy nasty
bitch. He said it only because she

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has opinionated? JJ, what are
your thoughts on these barbecue discussions? We're

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having, fools? Where are we
at? I do not agree at all

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with you on the ribs. A
good rib is great, well see a

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good Yes, I'm not arguing with
a good rib rib consistency, though sometimes

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you get a poor rib. Yeah, I think I feel like you haven't

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no dog in the ribs right now. A lot of people love the beef

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frib. I'm I'm rib and brisket. For me, I'm not the biggest.

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I'll eat sausage and I like,
but I'm not. For me,

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it's the beef. It's like ribs, brisket, like chopped beef. I

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love a good baked potato. Of
course, bait beef rib is a polarizing

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some I feel like Fred Flintstone every
time I get one, though. Yeah,

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it's always so big and just I'm
like, I'm good. I don't

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I don't want that. I don't
want that very quickly. The one that

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we have avoided, which is one
of my favorite barbecue items, is the

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pulled pork sandwich. I don't love
pulled pork. You haven't had good.

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That's the thing with every food conversation, though, I love pull pork,

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and I don't get it falling away. Yeah, I don't know pain pains

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barbecue in Memphis. The most out
of the way little hole in the wall

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joint is the best I've ever had. Baby backshack over by Lee Harvey's I

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told I've told you guys about this
place a million times. Same deal.

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Let's drive there after the show and
go to Memphis and then we can drive

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all night back home. Hey,
I've got the wagon one day. That's

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enough. That's enough for this.
Sorry, we all kind of hijacked the

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scuttle bu no, no, no, I got to a couple of stories.

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We'll just have to push birthdays to
nine. Okay, No, there's

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no should be no apologies. The
big story was we handled We handled it.

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The update on the State Fair coming
up next. Though we each give

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three predictions for last night. We
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Say Cowboys Chargers games we recorded.
I have the audio. We'll see how

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