This is the Downbeat on ninety seven to one The Freak. All right,
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and we get some local news and we do in the scuttle button. Thank
you, Mikey. Here we go State Fair shooting and here it's kt with
the scuttle button. Yep, take it, smoke Dog, take it,
yeah, smoke Dog. You know he hit that right guts. I've got
these written down if I ever get if I not get to or have to
bring it back from break. Yeah, this is the downbeat with Dingu,
Smoke Dog and mister Sunroof. You don't get the reference, do you know?
Is that back to Derek Jeters. Well, it's from the commercial where
you know how like there's an argument between a husband and wife and the claim
something and the wife throws the challenge flag and they look at the instant replay
and she's like, oh, the car's all wet. And he's like,
oh, somebody left the sun roo She's like, you left the sunroof up
and he goes, I didn't touch the sun roof. Whatever. Everybody knows
you're mister sunroof. He goes, I'm mister sunroof. It's like I think
Mikey's mister sunroof. Now that I understand it, I can't argue with that.
Yeah, yeah, you're a guy that likes a nice sunroof. I
bet I don't know that I've ever owned a vehicle with the sun roof.
You have a jeep, Your entire car is a sun roof. I don't
ever take the thing off, though, gets more ansle dude, if you
ever had a wrangler, you do it once and realize nope, no,
never again. If you want to make it rain directly where you are located,
take your top off, take your heavy top off, your geet,
make it rain. Here's k T with a scuttle butt. Cameron Turner is
twenty two. He's the guy who was accused of shooting three people Saturday night
at the State Fair of Texas, but he told police he was acting to
defend himself and his fan family. Before you even say the story, I
want to say I'm going to be hard to budge off. This person is
a moron and I hate them, Okay, but I want to be fair.
I want to just let you know my starting position. We're starting off
with twenty two year old Cameron Turner as a moron. Yes, okay,
now, he said he's acting to defend himself and his family. Classic plot
line from Fast and the Furious. The problem is. The officer at the
scene wrote that Cameron Turner was by himself when the shooting happened. The officer
also wrote that Turner said he was attempting to protect his family when a group
of men approached him, and he went into defense mode and shot three or
four times. Now, surveillance footage shows him buying a water bottle from one
of the concession stands. That's two tickets, by the way, that's it,
No, not good value, two dollars water bottles, and when he
turned around, one of the victims was approaching him. Both males stopped walking
and appeared to exchange a few words. That's when Cameron Turner brandished a gun
and began shooting. The shots struck the first victim and then two others,
one of those being the lady on the cleaning crew. Turner reiterated to detectives
during a later interview that he went into survival mode and felt threatened by the
man, so he shot him. So that's it. Okay, moron,
Now, Danny, what you said he might have a case. I'd like
to hear your take. It depends on how good his attorney is, because
I do believe that in the state of Texas it's probably slightly easier to prove
self defense and fear of fear of life than it is maybe in other's And
if he's got a really good attorney and you know how they can do,
man, they can spend these spend spend the interpretation of even surveillance footage in
their favor. You know, he of course he's gonna have a case.
He's already sounds to me like he's already lawyered up and is in the language
of the Affidavid is you know, unless the Affidavid is just his direct comments,
then heck even better for his case. I'm not saying I agree with
it. I'm not worried about David. I'm telling you this guy's an idiot.
There's no physical violence toward him, no push, not on the camera
footage that we have. And why does he have a gun in there?
And does he have a concealed license which we read the flimsy rules of the
fair that you may or may not be allowed in with. Okay, that's
fair rules, but you don't need a concealed license to carry a concealed weapon
in this state. If this other guy punches him in the face, then
fine, you are now threatened. But when the guy hurls sticks and stones
at you, unless the sticks and stones are I'm about to kill you,
and then all you do, all you have to do is create doubt in
one juror, you know, and you pull out a thing in a crowded
incredibly crowded food courts. Aren't blasting insane and saying that this is normal behavior.
I'm playing total deb advocate right here. But he's all. They'll probably
also argue the fact that he wasn't seeking out to hurt anybody. They these
men approached him. We don't know what was said. He claims that,
you know, they they've said that they were about to kill me, or
they were about to whatever or harmed me, and he stopped the threat and
he starts spraying. It's a lot easier to prove in this state, man,
I'm telling you. The wild card element to me is we don't know
what happened earlier in the day. Was there some type of altercation early on?
Were they fighting over him, who was in line first at the gondola
and that and a good lawyer will be able to cleverly create that narrative for
him and his defense and present him in the best light possible. And if
this kid has no priors, you're gonna look at his history, how you
know what kind of kid he was, and testimony about him and stuff like
that. I mean this, this he's got a case. Now. It's
insane because he wasn't attacking the person I know it isn't. Do you mean
he wasn't attacking the first No, Look, he wasn't. He wasn't on
the offensive. He was buying a bottle of water and these two people approached
him. There's where he automatically has a defense, and a good lawyer can
spin this to create doubt in one jeur. I believe it's obscene that that
is anything close to a reasonable defense for pulling out a gun and shooting.
I don't disagree with hitting a poor Venezuelan woman who's been here for five months,
do not disagree with what the hell planet do we live on? Seems
reckless And there's a whole thing about getting in and that's what they're probably trying
to figure out, right now how did he get in? But the fact
that that many shots would have been fired, if three or four it said
three or four in the affidavit. But whatever, through all that mud that,
yes, he'll probably be found guilty, but it'll probably be for lesser
charge. Yeah, lesser charge, reduced sentence, probation, all that stuff,
because someone cut in front of him at the mustard tub for his corn
dog. Yeah, that's my mustard pump. No, it's mine? Are
you disrespecting me? I'm gonna go get some water because I'm gonna have to
shoot you right now. But I hate it, you know, you just
want to know that if it was, it is odd. He's defect defending
his family. Who's not appearing in your picture. And then the police officer
said there was no he was alone. Shaky. We'll have more updates as
they unfold. I didn't want to read this quote though, from Milton Whitley,
who sold funnel cakes at the fair for thirty three years. He said
he doesn't want the shooting to deter people from enjoying what's left of the fair.
Let's get out there and finish the fair strong, he said, let's
do it. What's that one incident, take away the join pleasure that fair
goes over joyed for so many years. Funnel cake Man tows the company line.
Yeah, get back out of here of the fair. You know money.
He's right, this was an isolated incident. It was it was unlikely
that a gun was gonna The cops don't even know how he got the gun
in the last report that I saw. If I'm just being honest, and
maybe I'm a cynical a whole, I know, but if you said a
day of the opening day the fair opens and we're just making some Vegas ods,
maybe we're making a prop bet here and there will there be a shooting
at this year's state Fair, I would have said yes, and it wouldn't
have been it. I would have thought about it twice. Yeah, Sam,
even though one hasn't happened in thirty five years. Yeah, I still
just say yes. And would you have would you bring your family into any
place where shooting happened seventy two hours ago? I mean, I don't know
one hundred and sixty thousand people did on Sunday? Yeah, sure as hell
did. I mean, who cares? Right, We're safe. I think
it's probably the safest time to go because height more heightened awareness. And I
think they installed they went back to maybe the old older school metal detectors,
did they I think so, And they had Italian bs. They tightened up
some gates and stuff like that, so more secured perimeter, better security.
It's probably the safest time to go with Sunday. I'm not living fear guy,
but I didn't really want to go anyway, and I'm just gonna go
sit in the food court where some idiot pulls out a gun and shoots arbitrarily.
I hate it. It's just so aggravating. It's dumb. It's dumb.
But yes, will it affect anything? I really doubt it. Don't
worry. Your funnel cakes will sell. You'll make your nut that you make
with your little fried cakes, little fried cakes. They're way more than that.
No, they're okay, there you go, fire off the hate text
funnel cakes. It's just fried. It's fat. It's a reconfigured donut.
Yes, that's all it is, guys, I mean yes, if you
put one in front of me, I'll give a little eat, a little
piece of it. It's pretty damn good. Doctor them up, though,
what do they do know? What powdered shut some of they have flavors and
things like that. They have flavors and chocolate. They discuss strawberry. They're
disgusting. We're all fat Donuttel cakes are disgusting. Yes, that's the worst
take we've had on the show today. Oh, and that's up there with
and that, and that's in contention with yesterday's The mass singer's not that great
from a guy who never watched the Mask sing, I don't need to see
You haven't seen the time Kermit came out of the box. I don't need
to see people dressed up in oversize Marty Grass costume singing. And I gotta
guess who it is. Oh, it's James Vanderbeek. Oh. Oh,
watch the video of the time Kermit pops out, James vanderbe when Kermit popped
out, Holy crap. Yeah. Oh, when Kermit popped out and started
laughing, it was amazing. I want to see Kermit. I'll do it
the old school way on Sesame Street, like a damn man, where we
learn right and learn things. Next story, let's go here. We get
a new restaurant opening in Fort Worth in November, and it's coming from the
pitmasters of the place called Goldies, which won one Texas Monthly Best Texas Barbecue.
I've been very interesting in Goldies. Hey, I'm listening Goldies. Yeah,
one number one and shocked the barbecue world. Yes, and apparently it's
very small two days a week. I think they're only open hard to get
to hard run out of food in thirty minutes. You gotta be their weight
all morning to like get in there at ten am to maybe get your fingers
on some brisky. But Kevin is gonna tell us more on the new opening.
Well, this new place that's opening in November and Fort Worth is just
Ribs. They also only have fries in mac and cheese, and it's gonna
be cold Ribbies. So Ribbies is like a brother of Goldies, and it's
fading rib It's been just descrived. It's being described as like a wingstop and
a raising canes combined, but for ribs. Really, they're gonna sell five
varieties of ribs. You're gonna have your dry rum, you're gonna have your
sweet, you're spicy, your tangy, and they're gonna have a fifth option
that's gonna be kind of a rotating rub or sauce. Uh now they say
it go these ribs is the second highest seller, so behind and brisket of
course, so be on the lookout coming in November and four worth for rib
for ribbies. My curating can't afford to take another hit after the funnel cake
discussion. Oh so I will say this very mildly that I'm I'm not a
huge rib guy. I don't like my hands getting the messy though. Okay,
ever, I'm kind of with you there we are. The cratings are
plummeting. I just feel bang for the buck. The meat, I mean,
it's hit and miss. You can get a perfect rib. God really
well, there's not just a bunch of globules of blarred on each end of
them. I hate that with the bone, the bone pieces at the end.
I hate the bone pieces. But sometimes you get a rib and it
costs quite a bit of money and you get a quarter inch by the meat,
and then you're like, well, surely the other side the meat bomb
is and then you get the same and then you have to get the top
of the bone rib meat. That's where you get the best stuff. Now,
it's such a crapshoot to get a good rib in my opinion that I
typically just avoid them. If there's a variety of Texas barbecue choices, yeah,
and I'll go with brisket. I like some some of these places make
incredible sausages too, Dude. I will always do brisket and sausage, and
I feel like that will determine for me how good a barbecue joint is,
because the sausage can be incredibly unique, and brisket pretty much tells your story.
Yep. But there's people hearing this that say ribs are the they are
and all be all answer to how good your place is. And I think
for true hardcore barbecue people that is probably the that's the touchstone of a great
barbecue spot is their ribs and will probably be second. Right now, I
am dying for a rib. Eat seventeen good? Could you eat seventeen rib?
A pile of bones? I apologize or did a food story at seven
thirty cause it gets a hungry dude, and I know I forget and I
forgot my kind bars today. I was going to eat him like a rib
though, and pretend. Yeah, just simulate, h I'll come interested in
Soroy Industry's breakfast ribs. Okay, we're working on our proprietary breakfast rub.
What makes it a breakfast rib. We're working on that. When actively where
all up here in the dome breakfast Ribs stay tuned. We're to open it
right next to the rib and right across from Ribs USA where George Where George
was invited to go eat lunch by Jack Black, and he just sheepishly declined,
Nah, I'm good, not for lunch. I mean, look,
life is full of missteps and regret. That's got to be top five for
him. Yes, said no, Yes, number one having lunch with Jack
Black. Number two having lunch with Jack Black at a place called Ribs USA.
Right, it was a miscalculation by George. He should have said,
yes, we're getting some text feedback. Pork is ten times more flavorful than
brisket, chicken, turkey, et cetera. I mean, yeah, I
think everyone. That's the thing about food is everyone has opinions and it's all
out. I don't food shame. One hundred per Texas barbecue is based on
brisket and sausage. Okay, I don't know. The ribs are the X
factor there? Yeah, idea that a funnel cake would draw you off side,
though, let me continue reading. Kevin, I'm with you, Mike,
funnel cake can go f itself. Yeah, that's that one guy who
Yeah, who what goes dolls Troy's events. We're the only voter in the
Dallas Observer recent poll that what are you going to do another marble race on
Twitchy? Maybe pretty soon marble races may return. Let me know the next
about your upcoming events. I want to go j That's was perfect Tommy's phone
number. There's just time to Somebody else said funnel cakes are disgusting? Is
a ben and skin show take terrible way to go? Mike, Well was
that I've never heard that day? Okay, well then this guy doesn't know.
I think funnel cakes are delicious, and I'll you can have hours you
can be in Mikey's funnel cake and we don't have We'll have your brisket.
Yeah, I'll tray give my whole funnel cake for one rib. Although,
speaking of brisket, you can screw up brisket. Yes, that's why I
think barbecue joint should be judged on their brisket. And you can get subpar
brisket at a great brisket place depending on where where you are in line.
I don't like where I get my cut. I don't like turkey except for
at barbecue places, because they get it right somehow. Turkey is a hard
thing to get right. Yeah, I never do turkey at barbecue. I
know it can be good, but I'm salivating over the good good. If
you're getting a two meat plate, you're getting brisket and brisk and sausage,
brisketting sausage. Every Damn, I've soured on sausage. I love him over
time. Although I like sausage, I've soured on it. I think sausage
is the most diverse food at these barbecue joints where it changes the most.
Like I live a Cliff Lockhart. I love their sausage. Do they have
a jalapeno sausage? I don't. They all have a cheddar sausage. I
don't want it. I don't like the jilopeno. I don't want cheddar in
it, but I do want it spicy. But I don't love Lockhart's brisket.
To be honest, I wish I did. Because it's fifty feet from
my house. You just go in there and get a pile of sauce.
Now, I do get the brisket in hopes that I just get a better
cut and like, fine, maybe this one's amazing. That's the thing,
man, you know what. And I'm with you on this. You and
I hate gristle and fat. Yes, I hate it. Yeah, there's
nothing you do. Okay, good, some people love it. Flavor come
from. I ain't gotta get your fat, Mari. It's okay, I
get that, but I just don't like the texture of it. I like
the way it feels. It feels like you're just eating like this weird glue,
salty glue. I don't want it. I hate it in steak now
in a properly doune brisket. Sometimes that straight string and a strip of fat.
I'm okay with it now, like a huge one. No, I'm
talking about the blob that just like gelatinous, like just that. He's nasty.
He's a nasty bit. He is a nasty bitch. Your brother is
a nasty bit. Cash Siroy nasty bitch. He said it only because she
has opinionated? JJ, what are your thoughts on these barbecue discussions? We're
having, fools? Where are we at? I do not agree at all
with you on the ribs. A good rib is great, well see a
good Yes, I'm not arguing with a good rib rib consistency, though sometimes
you get a poor rib. Yeah, I think I feel like you haven't
no dog in the ribs right now. A lot of people love the beef
frib. I'm I'm rib and brisket. For me, I'm not the biggest.
I'll eat sausage and I like, but I'm not. For me,
it's the beef. It's like ribs, brisket, like chopped beef. I
love a good baked potato. Of course, bait beef rib is a polarizing
some I feel like Fred Flintstone every time I get one, though. Yeah,
it's always so big and just I'm like, I'm good. I don't
I don't want that. I don't want that very quickly. The one that
we have avoided, which is one of my favorite barbecue items, is the
pulled pork sandwich. I don't love pulled pork. You haven't had good.
That's the thing with every food conversation, though, I love pull pork,
and I don't get it falling away. Yeah, I don't know pain pains
barbecue in Memphis. The most out of the way little hole in the wall
joint is the best I've ever had. Baby backshack over by Lee Harvey's I
told I've told you guys about this place a million times. Same deal.
Let's drive there after the show and go to Memphis and then we can drive
all night back home. Hey, I've got the wagon one day. That's
enough. That's enough for this. Sorry, we all kind of hijacked the
scuttle bu no, no, no, I got to a couple of stories.
We'll just have to push birthdays to nine. Okay, No, there's
no should be no apologies. The big story was we handled We handled it.
The update on the State Fair coming up next. Though we each give
three predictions for last night. We each gave three predictions for last night.
Say Cowboys Chargers games we recorded. I have the audio. We'll see how
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