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Hello, everybody, Welcome back to
the fire Escape Cast. It is episode

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eighty nine. I'm Mike, your
host is Always here with Dan. Hi,

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that's me. I'm also here.
And Mary, you did it again.

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I didn't mean to sound disappointed.
I meant to sound like a calming

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like, oh, there's Mary.
Him Mary, go up and again,

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try again, here, tride again. Here's always with Dan. Yeah,

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Hey, what's up? And Mary? Mike, that was Mary, what's

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up? I thought you were going
to use the fart? So I feel

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fine. Let's let's here run it
back and met Mary cash. Yeah.

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Speaking of stinks, So I don't
believe I'm a stinky guy. I've never

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been accused of being a stinky guy. You could tell me if I was.

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And also, I'm not a sweaty
guy. And so even when I'm

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doing like cardio and stuff like I
do long bike rides, I do a

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lot of like peloton biking stuff and
everything and yoga, I don't sweat much.

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And even if I do, I
don't stink. Would there be a

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reason that in this last month,
since I started training for this half marathon,

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I've noticed that I am like I
need to be on top of it

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because like I'm noticing like my stink
and I never but I was doing cardio

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before. I was like sweating and
stuff before to a degree? Are you

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more prone to sweat now sweating?
No? Like all run like I did

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like a five k a few days
ago, and like I wasn't really sweaty

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afterwards, but like I stink and
I was like, and I don't notice

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that bike ride diet is I guess
I've been drinking less over the last few

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weeks. Just been eating my same
like mail delivery food stuff, nothing crazy,

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fairly healthy over. I was in
Philadelphia for a week and oh go

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on, I was, I ate
several cheese steaks and now like half of

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what I drink is prime water.
I don't know what that is. You're

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drinking prime and you're wondering why you
stink because it's not water. It's coconut

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water. It's okay, look at
the ingredients. I read articles from nutritionness.

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What is what? Oh it's co
water. Well. The unpleasant part

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is it's owned by Logan Paul,
So let's just skip let's skip past that.

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He's not the guy in the lab
putting beakers and stuff together. He's

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just the right one that got Yeah, it's uh, it's very good.

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I love her. He said it's
coconut water. It's ten percent coconut water.

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I mean, is that not coconut
water? Yeah, but lots of

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things can contain. I'm good.
And then have a bunch of ship that

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makes your butt stink. I bet
coconuts aren't ten percent. Dan. If

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you made that drink the Jungle Bird
tonight and you swapped out like ten percent

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of the Kompari for coconut juice water, I would not call the drink coconut

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water. The inclusion of ten percent
not making coconut Okay, Well, I've

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been looking at the ingredients and stuff. I've been into this. Now and

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turn this into prime. Guys,
you are into it. J grub Jan

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got into it a WrestleMania with me. We tried all the play. Oh

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grub got his kids into it today. A sticky thing. I don't think.

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I think it's a running thing.
The running would make more sense that

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Prime is good for you. I've
been talking about it so much to people,

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think of to make it clear.
It's not a mad spot. I

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just love this ship. Now,
wait, hold on, Mary, what

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else isn't it Okay, twenty calories, coconut water, b vitamins, antioxide

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and electual lights caffeine free. But
that's hold on. You can get all

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this from food. I agree.
No citric acid. I don't trust food

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associated with Logan Paul, I hate
this too. I hate it, but

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I love it first. This has
got a ship ton of chemis in it.

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Yeah, chemicals are great, so
to starbards in crime. OJ's all

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of the news dance having a great
week, so superlos. I might be

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wrong. Let me look this up. A big OJ fan, Dan Simpson

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is probably actually feel he's dead to
start this bit. It's an artificial sweetener.

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Yeah, I know. I mean
most of what I need is artificial

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sweet Mary. Did Dan call you
crying last week when OJ died? Because

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he called me, Uh, he
was weeping and I was like, Dan,

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what is wrong? I think I'll
never heard another great norm joke about

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him. Yeah that was normally not
OJ. God, that joke that Jim

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Downey was talking about the lucky murdering
cat or cat the stabbing cap one's good.

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Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yep, Hey

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be careful that that's my lucky stabbing
cap. Have you ever seen any hosted

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the sb Awards and uh, he
was like, oh, you won the

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Heisman. He's on stage hostings like, oh yeah, this guy won the

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Heisman. Don't and be proud of
that. And they can never take that

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away from you unless you murder your
wife and a waiter and the Kim Grippy

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in the crowd, and Kim Grippy
is just like, hey, like,

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don't show me right now, and
a waiter as an afterthought. Yeah,

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so Prime is your new obsession.
I mean, I'm drinking a lot.

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I'm gonna I'm gonna have a couple
tonight. Yeah, I've had like five

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today. Maybe you are legend.
Symptoms of Superlose can include floating gas,

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diarrhea, nausea, skin irritations,
runny nose, anxiety, anger moods,

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depression, and stink butt shovel poles
of superlos every day Since before Logan Paul

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was fucking alive, it ain't the
super Loose, And now you're paying him

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to drink Superlos. I'll you're just
sitting there drinking Prime and running and stink

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sweating everywhere, and you're like,
I have no idea where this stink is

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coming from. And the only one
thing you've changed is that you no longer

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drink water. I did go to
Philadelphia, the city of Philadelphia for your

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steak. Yeah, this is it's
a nice city. It's a nice city.

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Mostly. We'll say that the inclusion
of dairy into your diet could also

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be a thing. And if you're
eating a lot of Philly cheese steaks,

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that's a lot of But again,
I'm eating ninety pounds of cheese every day

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for my entire life, you know, so like that's not a new variable,

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are you? Maybe your body can
just no longer process all of time.

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Let's just be dying. Yeah,
here's a question, are you because

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can I assume you're running more often
than you ever have before? Uh?

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Yeah, only at least in a
while ten years ago. Going to the

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last half, are you, how
diligent are you with like laundry, with

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your workout clothes? Uh, with
the workout clothes, I'll get a few

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in on some shorts. Definitely run. Maybe that's I'm saying, Maybe that's

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where the stink, that's where you're
associating the stink because you're done with running,

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or you're just putting these clothes on
and they're smelling. No It'll be

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even like after I showered like a
few hours ago, and then it's just

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like I'm just noticing. It's not
like a weird It's just like it's just

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that underarm smell that like I don't
ever notice, and now I'm like,

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wait, what the fuck is that? But go around. I'm this is

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probably obvious, but like when you're
in the shower, you're getting in there.

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I'm getting right in there. Yeah, you're getting into all the crannies.

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Oh yeah, cranny's Yeah, all
right, I assumed. So I

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just think it's worth ticking all the
boxes to see what's going on here,

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or maybe doubling up on the on
the deodorant and stuff. Every day,

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I'm to be running a lot more. Okay, yeah, I mean I've

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actually we talked about this last time. I've also been running pretty consistently five

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times a week, which is really
good for me because I do not like

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running. And I don't know about
you, but when I'm done running,

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I am bad. And I don't
shower after a run. After a run,

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I just like change clothes and get
right back into my world, like

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I just go back to work or
whatever. I lay on the floor for

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a bit like I start stretching and
then I'll just like like do one of

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those things you put your like behind
you and laid back on it, and

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then I'll just lay there for a
while. Uh huh yeah, or after

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do you? I mainly do like
the the you know, the what do

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you call it? Not explosive,
but the movement like jumping Jackson stuff before

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I run and then the stretching heavy
stuff after the run is what I've been

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doing. Lay on the floor normally
instead of showering. Well it's more of

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the lawn than the floor, but
yeah, that should be it. I'm

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kidding on like in the lawn that
I couldn't. I'm allergacy grass solved.

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I think I'll be fine. I
think maybe, yeah, maybe I'll just

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switch out the clothes more often.
I think it'll be all right. But

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time, no, no, I
can't. I can't think. I wouldn't

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think of it absolutely quit anything before
Brian, what do you like about it

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so much? Weird? I'm drinking
candy and it's good for you. It's

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not good for you. What part
isn't? Superlose is not good for you,

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I know, but it's not hurting
you. It's probably like you know,

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like, so this is the thing
that a lot of people are doing.

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Now. Have you seen there's like
a huge rise of non soda but

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their sodas. Yeah, it's not
a commercial during the super Bowl where it's

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like better. Yeah. Yeah,
there's a change in marketing for the new

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gen which is anti pop. So
like back then, diet coke or diet

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pepsi was the ultimate form of beverage. It was diet, so it was

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like marketed as good for you or
healthy, and they would have all these

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like attractive celebrities drink it, and
it was like diet coke whatever, like

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that's the drink of choice. That's
like your mama's drink. Now it's superlose,

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you know. Yeah, like fake
alternative sugar in a beverage that's marketed

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as healthy, and they usually do
it with the form of we've shoved an

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antioxidant in there, bitch sure,
and and then they like market it as

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like non soda. But it's very
similar as a diet coke in the sense

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of like its health or its value
to you. So no, diet coke

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doesn't hurt you. Should you drink
six diet cokes in a day? Probably

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not so I'm here, Like if
I'm Coca Cola or I'm the Pepsigo company,

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I would start advertising hard towards children
and just say some bullshit about how

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it's healthy and just go straight for
the kids. Or like you know,

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if you're like a tobacco company or
something, just get those kids going on

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it. You got to make it
seem like it's candy, it's good for

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you. And I think that's the
path to riches. Yes, that's exactly

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what they all do. And as
long as you don't get caught specifically targeting

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children. Well, it was like
a casino and I just want to get

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kids into gambling that's illegal because kids
aren't allowed to gamble. It's the same

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thing that the cigarettes company got sued
for Jewel. Jewel that fucked because they

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went they marketed too heavily towards kids, and they were very successful at it

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because they had things like lemonade and
like blueberry. Yeah so smart. Yeah,

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And the case was, ye,
monetize them, that's that's right.

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They did, and they were so
good that the government stepped in and sued

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them. And so I think jewels
like completely ruined from that. You don't

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they flew too close to the son. You want to like market to children

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in an unhealthy way, but like
discreetly enough where you don't get in trouble.

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Like Joe Cammel, Yeah he did. There was a cool camel with

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sunglasses, and a kid would look
at Joe Cambal'll be like, I want

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to be like that camel. Then
they start to earth. Would they even

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have a cartoon character like you would
Tony the Tiger unless they were going after

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children. That's the perfect example,
Dan. I mean, yes, fast

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food is super unhealthy for kids,
but that's extremely marketed towards kids. Right.

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Well, it's not illegal for a
child to have a burger, it's

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illegal for a child to smoke a
jewel like tobacco, and it's illegal for

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them to be at the casino.
I'm just like, I'm imagining a four

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year old. This is an untapped
market is children and gambling, let's get

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into it. But I do in
a way, we've got new merch for

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all you toddlers out there, cigarette
holders with the fire escape logo motter as

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Thompson's cigarette things for kids extend straight
off it's licorice, so file I do

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think, you know, I wonder
what our demos are. I suspect I'm

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a gambling woman, and I do
suspect that I have a good gauge of

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what they are, and it's not
children. Sometimes advertisers will ask me,

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and I just guess, and uh, I usually guess they're not listening.

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They're not listening. Yes, Also, I don't know where to look to

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find it, so I would give
them the normal lemperts. But I don't

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know, I said, an educated
guess. I do say, approximately,

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it's like twenty five to forty five, twenty five to forty five gamers,

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enthusiastic gamers. Yeah, dudes,
largely enthusiastic gamers. Contains twenty percent women.

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Now how much super loose? Ten
percent? Enough that you think that

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it counts a super low stock?
Do you own? Can you buy stock

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in super loops? No? Yah, don't buy stock in anything, well,

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not in superlows like it wouldn't be
called like s u see, but

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like the company that you, oh, Child would do it. Okay,

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stock and casinos, and then we'll
start vamp. We'll start vamped about Child

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Casinos every episode to drive the price
up, and then we'll sell the stock

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and then we'll buy stock and kill
child cigarettes and then we talk those child

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cigarettes once they all get addicted,
sell the money, and then you know

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what we go for at that point, Uh, baby baby caskets as good.

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Then we get into the baby casket
business. Jesus Christ will have very

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short little crabs tables and stuff and
fun like Christoper Price chairs and you can

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rent like little power wheels to go
from like the three card poker table to

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the crabs table. The levers on
the the slow machines are just lollipops.

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Yeah, that you can just lick. But there's like no sanitary stuff at

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all going on there that we don't
swap them out. It's doesn't taste good

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any country where this is legal?
Uh? Is it just us that makes

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it illegal to do this? No, I'm certain there's some country were Campbell

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child casina. I'm going this summer
lolly pop summer machines, cigur a slot

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machine right itself, sanitized bluey machines
are legal. Uh. Slot machines by

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country came up Wikipedia. Australia is
the first entry. Oh it's because it

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starts with nay. That makes Australia
is notorious for not allowing it. You

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know, Australia is actually really protective
of their children. Did you know,

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like they're cereal that you can't I
in Australia because Australia is like there's too

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much sugar in here. Oh and
they did the like leopardad had to change

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its cover because the gore stuff and
everything. Yeah. Oh, I mean

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when you shoot Red in Australia,
they just disappear. It's such a they've

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like completely ruined that game. But
but I'm talking about like Cereal, So

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like when you get Captain Crunch,
you can't get Captain Crunch in Australia because

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they've deemed it unhealthy. Good,
that's so fun. I'm typing in where

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can I gamble if I'm a kid? Oh? I didn't, Okay,

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But like also where gambling age by
state? Amazing? We like one of

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the unhealthiest countries. Ever, I
think that correlates to all the artificial shit

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we haven't food. Yeah, but
it's also the place of freedom. Like

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I don't want to be told I
can't have Captain Crunch. I'm with the

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America doesn't want to be told that
she can't have her guns, that she

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can't like Ronald Nixon, she damn
wants to like, OJ, you guys,

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you're true patriots, true patriots.
I always carry a gun in one

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hand, my nick flag in the
other, and I like Captain Crunch.

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Unfortunately, the lowest age you can
gamble in America is gambling on Bengo in

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Maine. What age sixteen? We've
got to go seven eight, I think

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is the way to go. Let's
go to Maine and bet on Bingo.

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Yeah. Make the Bengo casino for
children in Maine. Yeah, okay,

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sick, but there's got to be
cigarettes, no hand sanitizer and jewels.

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Yeah, they can get jewels.
There are do you guys do you enjoy

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gambling? I have enjoyed it when
I did it. I haven't done it

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in forever. It was one of
those things where it's like when I started

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going, I was like, man, there's a lot of fun. And

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I kept winning, and I kept
winning. I was like, I'm having

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fun with my friends. I'm getting
free drinks and money. And then I

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had like my first couple of times
where I left with like, you know,

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I didn't have a lot of money
back then, and I'd be like

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two hundred dollars. I remember one
time there's probably the last time I like

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seriously tried to gamble, I was
down two hundred dollars, probably like twenty

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three years old. I go in, I lost two hundred dollars almost immediately

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felt like shit, and I was
like, okay, wait, I could

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get that back. Okay, I'll
just say two hundred out of the ATM,

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put it on red un Roulette,
I get it back, and then

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I just leave and I lost that, And so I remember that drive home.

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You know, four hundred bucks back
then was like critical for me.

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That was like a good check of
rent and games. Yeah, and I

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was like, you know what,
this feeling right now is not worth the

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good feelings when I won. And
also I realized that, you know,

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there are people in my family closed
to me that have like struggled with gambling

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stuff in the past. And it's
like, all right, I might have

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this in me, and I don't
really want to flirt with it much.

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So like I did it once my
wedding in Vegas, I threw a few

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hundred on a craps table either once
when I was in a Ruba a couple

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years ago. I mean, I'll
do it if I'm ever in a casino,

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I'll throw a couple hundred on a
crap table or something. But like,

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I'm not ever going to be a
regular gambler. I don't think too

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risky. Yeah, I don't just
want to, you know, dip my

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toe into far in the oops.
I have a gambling problem. You know.

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My dad loves to gamble. It's
what he does. It's his vacation.

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And every year he always saves up
a certain amount of money. And

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because he gambles so much, he
gets like the extra diamond version where they're

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like, well, we'll cover your
hotel and we'll cover your meals, and

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he just goes and he stays for
free at a casino and then he gambles

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and he gambles, and he usually
statistically, This is what I find fascinating

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about, like legit gamblers is statistically, even though the house always wins,

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he's very likely with the amount that
he gambles, he always plays the same

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game. He always plays like poker
on a machine machine poker, yeah,

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video pooker, And the amount that
he plays usually twice a year, he

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hits it big. Usually twice a
year he gets either a royal flush or

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he gets like four aces or whatever, and he pulls like like a two

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thousand dollars hand that goes back into
the amount he's allowed to spend. If

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he had the ten and four joker, then he yeah, it had eaten

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that more. That's right, Oh
yeah yeah. And he usually like basically

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calls it at the end. He's
never up at the end of the year.

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It's not like he's like, hey, I made ten thousand dollars gambling

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this year. He always spends probably
three to four thousand dollars gambling every year.

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But if he hits it big,
he can he can throw eight thousand

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dollars gambling because he always gambles his
winnings and that's like his thing. And

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I think I got that in me
too. Yeah, I have that in

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me too. I usually set mine
or like way lower stakes because I am

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afraid. My stakes are usually five
hundred dollars, and so I'll be like,

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when this five hundred is gone,
I'm out of here, and I

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consider every penny of that five hundred
just like whatever, don't worry about it.

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But we had TwitchCon in Vegas last
year, and there was a girl

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from our sales team who was like, sit down with me and play blackjack,

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and I was like, I don't
play blackjack, and she was like,

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I will show you how to play, and she taught me everything.

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She told me what to do for
every hand, and I walked out of

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there like with fourteen hundred dollars.
It was crazy in token, like in

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those little chips and it felt so
And you know what else I did.

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I kept like giving the chips to
a person and then they would massage me

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while I was playing. Oh wow, so they would just do it four

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chips they different, right, they
did it, yes, with a cigarette.

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Yeah. I love gambling and Maine
I had what I would consider probably

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the best case scenario with gambling.
The first time I went, I bet

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twenty dollars in blackjack and I lost. I said, oh, this sucks,

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and I have not gambled since.
Ye, it's just kind of like

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an asshole. After about doing I
played poker with friends. Were like the

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table stakes like though small, the
you know, the buy in was like

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twenty bucks, but I have never
I don't count that, like I'll have

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over for poker. And it's like
if it's a tournament where you're playing for

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five hours and it's like a twenty
dollars buy in. It's like that's not

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that's twenty dollars for like a night
of fun with your friends. That's yeah,

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And there are certain moods them in
when I enjoy the vibe of a

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casino setting and I'll go and hang
out and go to the bar and whatnot.

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But like gambling, from what I
know, is not a vice that's

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anywhere in my extended family and my
family like you know, the disease I

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should say, like, but in
terms of people who enjoy gambling, I

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actually don't know, but yeah,
it's it's never I can put I can

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imagine the rush of winning a lot
of money, but I just I I

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maybe think more about the negatives,
which I guess is healthy. And I'm

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not trying to bread because it's not
like I don't have other problems, but

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like, yeah, I don't know. No, everyone's got their stuff,

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and like the gambling thing is like
very directly in my lineage, and so

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I just kind of feel like if
I had flirted with it, it's like,

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ah, that's could go bad.
So probably not got it. Yeah,

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but if there was a casino with
a bunch of children, they'd be

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easy to beat at like poker,
or it might be that thing where it's

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like, you know, if you
have a friend that's never played and they

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said at the poker table, and
you can't really because like they're not following

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normal logic, so I can't.
Like I would really hate to lose poker

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to a child. I did have. There was a sixteen year old over

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here. It's a Jeff Cork brought
a son over for poker a few months

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ago. He started with that context
for poker, put your money on to

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get your parents' money. This smells
kid. Three cigarettes all you can smock.

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I think sixteen is too smart or
like Jeff Cork's kid was too smart,

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because like I think, if you're
going to take children's money, it

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should be dumber and younger. I
think it's sixteen. You can play poker.

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That is not crazy. You can. It's pretty smart. You can

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be a chess champion at sixteen,
right like you can get it done.

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So, yes, you can be
absolutely spanked by a sixteen year old.

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I think that would be very embarrassing
to lose significantly at poker to a child.

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Game. Yeah, like at Backlar's
kid beat me at poker. I

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would just move to another country.
You're already ruining his life. Don't play.

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Don't beat him in poker. He
shouldn't be embarrassed. I beat him

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a poker because I should beat him
at poker because he's an idiot kid and

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I'm a grown man with a job
and I went to college. True,

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I agree, Mary, you're shaking
your head. You haven't met this kid.

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Sucks. I just don't think you
can address children like that. I

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can, and I will, and
you can't stop me. I can't stop

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you, but I will shake my
head disapprovingly. I loved he. Have

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you told you a story about the
time Jeff and his family came over here

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to hang out for a night and
oh yeah, yeah. Twenty seconds in

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Dylan sat at our breakfast bar in
the kitchen while we were all just kind

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of catching up. He just like
interrupts by saying, I'm bored. Yeah,

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he sucks. That's right, awesome. I love it. This is

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how Backlart teaches his child to act
at a stranger's house. Power pees.

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No. I liked it, and
then he made me download Retown. He's

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gonna be in jail in six years. Jesus. I think children are when

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they like mixed it up. He
should be. I had a kid come

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over a couple like a month ago. I had a friend who was driving

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to California, so they stopped for
the night and they had a kid.

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I want to say twelve, that's
my guest nineteen. But functional, you

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know, And what do you mean
my functional? Yeah, like when they're

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like five and they don't even have
like awareness that they're alive yet, and

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they're just like a twelve girl can
have a conversation. That's right. Yeah,

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I think five year olds know they're
alive. Do you know about death?

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When was your last memory? Right? Like, it's not when you're

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five, it was way before when
I was like four, I was four.

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Yeah. Yeah, shitting your pants
is not a memory that holds water,

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hen because I was like twenty six
the last time I shited my pants.

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I'm talking about like being cognitively aware
and like knowing enough that if I

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was like, here's twenty bucks,
can you go to the store and get

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something, they could do it.
A twelve year old knows they're going to

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die someday. A five year old
night not sure that's fair correct, Although

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I'm self aware of hell, five
year olds are going to die someday.

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You're going to die one day,
Timmy. Anyway, this kid comes over

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and he's like, I'm showing them
the place, and I'm like, here's

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our basement. We have a row
machine. And then we go back upstairs.

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I'm getting everybody a drink and the
kid's like, I want to row

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and I was like, well,
you can use the row machine if you

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want to, and he went down. I mean, he's twelve, I

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hope not oh twelve. Oh okay, okay, this isn't. First of

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all, this is not Mike Maharty
like two years ago. This is this

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is a fresh, normal twelve year
old. He went downstairs as far as

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I'm awhere, and he rode for
forty five minutes while I hung out with

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his parents. And then he came
upstairs and went tired, I'm going to

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bed, and I was like it's
nine and he was like it's past my

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bedtime. And I was like,
well, yeah, I guess go to

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meds. And he washed his face, he brushed his teeth, and he

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took his ass to bed. And
then, first of all, forty five

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minutes is a long row session.
Fifteen that's a lot. And he was

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completely like he was taking care of
himself. Nobody bothered him. And I

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like kind of looked at the parents
like this, isn't that weird, and

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they were like, he's a weird
kid, but he doesn't bother anybody.

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He wanted to work out, and
he wanted and then he was tired.

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He worked himself out and then went
to sleep. It's probably one of my

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sound prettavorite child well adjusted. Yeah
that's me at twelve. Holy shit,

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I agree. I was a nightmare
when I was twelve. I was like,

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I don't give me attention. I
will ruin this night for everybody,

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never working out, staying up till
three in the morning every single night,

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Like his row machine is so sticky. Yeah, when I was twelve,

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I don't know how you would make
that work. I was probably trying to

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figure out how how to like have
sex with most of the things in my

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basement when I was most twelve year
old. Yeah, yeah, I started

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boys. Yeah, I was not
fucking row machines when I was growing up.

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That is exclusive. You lot,
you dirty, stinky, gross sons

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of bitches you think we were.
I just know just audmitted it because you

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you constantly tell me there's a question, what's the weirdest inanimate object? Now?

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I'm oh, I can glance around
this room I'm in right now and

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tell you four things. I'm looking
at it right now. A copy of

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For Whom the Bell Holds? It's
just like computer screen in general. Okay?

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Yeah? And also yes, Hemingway's
prime territory. This old ass paper.

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What's wrong with this? Copy of
Infinite Jess by David Foster Wallace.

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In the time of the war,
Marie and I lived in the mountains,

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and in the mountains we had a
good life. And sorry, the pros,

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it's too good. My d loves
the pros. You guys want to

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Escape. Daniel, Yeah, you've
been playing Tales of Canzera Jao mm hmm.

424
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:51.039
But you're goddamn prime down and to
talk about tails. Oh we're recording

425
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:52.559
that. Okay, Yeah, we're
just talking. You're not going to get

426
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.480
drink, Just so you know,
I'm not I'm no grub. I have

427
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.000
willpower. I've drank so many things
that you have told me to drink.

428
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.559
Yeah, I know, because I
have good taste. Oh I don't drink

429
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:08.119
Prime. Sorry, I forgot my
Prime. So once once Prime has a

430
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:14.160
Beaujeleet flavored drink, then yeah,
then we'll talk Prime alcohol. Yeah they

431
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:18.079
should do Yeah, yeah, doing
so fight to do white anymore, I

432
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:22.000
will get a headaches. I could
drink three bottles of it. Show fight

433
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:29.599
so terrible. Sounds like Dan's impression
of his father. No, No,

434
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:33.839
that's my impression of my dad doing
impressions and mocking voice for me. Yeah,

435
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.920
yeah, I love, I'm married. That was me doing Dan doing

436
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:42.880
his dad doing Dan. That's correct. Yes, yes, Tales of Canzera

437
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:48.599
Zoo. I think we are a
Metroidvania friendly podcast, aren't we we are?

438
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.160
Yeah? Everything, Well, I
won't make a holid night joke.

439
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:59.200
And it was a tough tough week
for you. Very sure, okay,

440
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:04.640
So yeah, Tales of Zarah it
is. It's okay, So I'm liking

441
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.200
it. It's good. It is
one of those things where it starts out

442
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.359
and I can instantly tell I like
the movement, the platforming it's very snappy.

443
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:14.599
It starts you with a double jump, which, look, the moment

444
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:17.480
you get a double jump in a
Metroidvania is always so great, but sometimes

445
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:19.880
you just get it from the beginning. It's like, you know what,

446
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.480
fuck, yeah this this, this
feels good. It kind of has a

447
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:28.319
or type of it's very saturated.
It looks like or I'm looking at it

448
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.119
right now, good looking. Yeah, it's got a good look. I

449
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:37.039
think it is definitely going more for
a story type of experience, in a

450
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:42.839
narrative experience, than it is like
super challenging exploration heavy. I mean,

451
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.640
there is like, oh, you
can go down the mines and go this

452
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:50.039
way or that way, but there's
not this like labyrinth like giant maps that

453
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:54.079
a lot of the genre entries that
I like have. And also I do

454
00:32:54.160 --> 00:33:00.319
think the proximity the Prince of Persia
doesn't do it any favors because all of

455
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:06.119
this is like the platforming is good, the combat is good, but having

456
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.880
just played Prince of Persia a few
months ago, I think that really raised

457
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:13.319
the bar. And also the quality
of life stuff like the memories and all

458
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.279
that, even though there's less backtracking
and stuff in this game, like it

459
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:20.200
seems like I'm just going forward and
following the story, so maybe you don't

460
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.000
need that as much. But there
are a lot of like combat arena type

461
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.160
things where it's like, Okay,
we're gonna wall this place off and we're

462
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:28.559
just gonna drop in waves of enemies, and there's not that many different types.

463
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:30.799
I'm only like three hours in,
i would say, but there haven't

464
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:36.039
been a huge variety of enemies.
The combat. It's interesting in that you

465
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.680
have these two masks that like,
okay, here's like the sun mask and

466
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:43.559
the Moon mask, and the Sun
one is you know, shooting arrows and

467
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:45.839
it's melee focused. I'm sorry,
it's not arrows. That's like a bonus

468
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:50.599
ability. It's more melee focused.
It's like light and heavy melee for the

469
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.160
Orange one. And then the Blue
one is you can shoot arrows that kind

470
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:58.000
of they just recharge on their own
and there's like an active reload thing like

471
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:00.240
gears, and it's all snappy.
It's fun. You can you know,

472
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:02.880
jump in mid air and shoot off
a bunch of arrows at a flying enemy

473
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.119
land you know, switch to your
sun thing, do a watch of that,

474
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:09.960
juggle all that. It's all good, but I do think that when

475
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:14.440
it's coming off of Prince of Persia, which you know it's it's not the

476
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.639
game's fault that another game came out
that is better recently, but you know,

477
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:22.119
the game on its own is good. But Prince of Persia was great,

478
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:28.280
and I'm not loving the combat,
Like it just doesn't feel as deep

479
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:30.679
as I think I went from the
genre from every element of like exploration to

480
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:35.519
combat. The platforming is probably the
best it's got. It's got a lot

481
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:37.480
of fun, like you know,
kind of wall running and while jumping,

482
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.440
not while running, it's more while
jumping, but like you get this ability

483
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:43.039
where you can freeze water, so
like a waterfall becomes a thing that you

484
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.559
can kind of wall jump up and
things like that, and it all feels

485
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:51.599
very snappy and good. It's it's
very generous with the checkpoints, so challenge

486
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:54.000
wise, it's not too crazy.
It does some really smart things. I'm

487
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:59.400
playing on PlayStation, so, like
you, the Orange Mask has a thing

488
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.920
where it's like if you swipe and
then new time your next hit perfectly,

489
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:06.559
it'll do super damage or whatever,
and it'll do like the audio cue on

490
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:09.559
the controller speaker, which I normally
hate, like ninety nine percent of controller

491
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:14.440
speaker stuff because it's just so obnoxious
and gimmicky to me. But it's cool

492
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:16.039
that, like you see the glint
on the weapon and you hear it in

493
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.559
your controller, it's like you can
kind of get that timing down with that.

494
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.800
So it is doing some smart things
and I think everything that's doing is

495
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:30.440
good. I just don't think it
is exactly what I want or expect from

496
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.480
a Metroidvania nowadays. Again, it's
it's narrative heavy, and you know that's

497
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:37.199
not really my thing. It seems
very earnest. It sounds like it was

498
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.679
the creator made it to kind of
deal with his like he lost his father

499
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:44.079
and this was kind of like you
know, dealing with you know, grief

500
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:45.719
and the afterlife and things like that, and so it does seem like there's

501
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:50.719
a real personal touch to this game. But yeah, I'm I'm just very

502
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.960
much one of those Symphony of the
Night blood Stained Prince of Persia, like

503
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:57.559
give me a big ass map,
give me a bunch of weird enemies to

504
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:01.400
kill, bunch and bunch bunch of
upgrades, and Persia had so much fucking

505
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:06.199
story. I don't know if like
that is the one that is like The

506
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:08.519
Golden Child. Remember how much text
you had to go through there was?

507
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:10.559
There was, Yeah, and I
didn't like it. That was definitely the

508
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:15.199
weakest part of that game to me, that that's just constantly bopping through that

509
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.719
text. But the thing is it
had all that other stuff going on though,

510
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:21.960
like it had a reason like,
Okay, on the other side of

511
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.559
this conversation, I'm going to get
a Killer upgrade or something like that,

512
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:30.039
and here it's like I feel like
I'm going between story things with some like

513
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:34.519
light platforming and combat challenges and things
like that. So it's, uh,

514
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.199
it's good. I would not say
it's great. And yeah, I look

515
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.039
it up, you know, looking
like the story stuff and everything, but

516
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:43.480
seems like something that would resonate with
you. It might have something price point

517
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.519
though, because like you know,
I never know. Let me the reason

518
00:36:53.519 --> 00:37:01.960
I don't Tales of Can praise.
Let me see the reason I ask,

519
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:07.760
you know what Persia isn't cheap?
You know, this is seventeen ninety nine

520
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:12.880
on Steam pre order and says that
I'm PlayStation as well, twenty twenty dollars.

521
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.400
Looks like if you don't pre order
it, yeah, twenty honestly,

522
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.480
and how much is Prince of Persia. I swear it was forty? Was

523
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:25.880
it? I look new Crown lost
crowd that was fifty on switch at least

524
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:31.679
for Aye. There you go.
Maybe that's an interesting thing. I should

525
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.719
be aware of what I'm talking about. Your lucky I was here. Yes,

526
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.639
I always think about that with prices
and never buys anything she doesn't need

527
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:45.559
to, Batchel, I always think
about my wallet. Correspondents curiously they call

528
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:51.360
me money Mary, and I'm always
thinking about it. Here the Pire escape

529
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.400
cast money Mary. How much is
it? Mary? It's seventeen dollars,

530
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:59.400
which is a pretty good deal.
It's seventeen dollars. And as a reminder,

531
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.239
I would not eat a piece of
turd for one hundred thousand dollars.

532
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:07.519
I can't trust her with money.
Then, definitely that's true that you can

533
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:13.159
quote me on that seventeen dollars and
I would not eat a turd. So

534
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:16.119
Dan does that change it? Are
you saying like it's better value than Honestly,

535
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:19.320
that's like for seventeen ninety nine.
If I was just someone who just

536
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.199
wanted like a Metroidvania fix, like
this is good enough for that. I

537
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:27.880
it feels almost like like a we're
not insulting or talking down like, oh

538
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:30.679
it's good enough, it's good,
it's it's a good little like it's it's

539
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:36.440
a have to The dollar value actually
absolutely matters, for sure. I don't

540
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.159
think that's the only way to talk
about a game's value though. No,

541
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:42.760
no, no it's not, but
it's it's important in the context of it.

542
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:44.760
Yeah, I'll put it this way. Quality, Like if I were

543
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.159
reviewing these back up the game and
former scale, this would probably be a

544
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:51.760
seven point five, whereas Prince of
Persia was like a nine point five plus.

545
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.760
Okay, yeah, yeah, I
mean Prince of Persia is phenomenal.

546
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:59.239
But I actually remember I think the
reason I said that is because I remember

547
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.280
when we were trying a hardcore sell
people on Prince of Persia and talking about

548
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:05.719
how good it was. I had
people tweet at me and be like,

549
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.480
yo, that's fifty bucks, and
I had to justify it and be like,

550
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:12.800
oh, really, I do think
it's worth it. I think it's

551
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.159
worth it too. But that's like
the context, right, is that like

552
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:20.519
for a person to spend fifty dollars, it has to be not only a

553
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:22.119
good game. You start talking about
things like length, and I know that

554
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:28.199
not everybody is like length is super
important when it comes to it's the quality,

555
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:39.639
right, not girth is more mean
Anyway, there is a breaking point

556
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:44.239
where if the game is like ten
hours long, it's fifty bucks. Is

557
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:47.599
a hard cell? Yeah, no, I get it. Yeah, yeah,

558
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:52.079
but I also, yeah, Prince
of Persia, despite being if some

559
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:53.360
people are like, oh, it's
fifty dollars, I think it's probably my

560
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:57.000
game of the year so far,
and have to look at what's actually coming

561
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:02.159
out this year, like, yeah, because Prince of Persia is very high

562
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:07.480
for me. I think it's a
very good game. I like just a

563
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:14.800
transition. I played pepper Grinder again
and I beat it, and I want

564
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:20.480
to talk about it again because pepper
Grinder is fifteen dollars and I don't think

565
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.360
I really processed that that's also an
extremely affordable game for what it is.

566
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:27.559
And the first time you and I
talked about pepper Grinder, we talked about

567
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:31.599
how it is pretty good. Right, It's a platformer with some combat.

568
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:37.559
It requires precision. It's not an
easy game by any means, and it

569
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:42.599
got so complicated or like so kind
of the difficulty spike hit so hard.

570
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:47.079
I was thinking about quitting and was
like thinking about calling it because it was

571
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:50.119
just getting a little too much for
me. Well, the other day I

572
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.559
decided to go back to it because
I do like the game. I think

573
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.000
it's really neat and I beat it, and I just want to say I

574
00:40:55.039 --> 00:41:00.880
do actually think it's pretty fucking good
for the price point actually changed my tune

575
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:07.440
on it a little bit. I
think Pepper Grinder trains you for one of

576
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:12.360
the most epic like final boss fights
of any game I have ever played.

577
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.320
And I was I was like in
tears when I beat this game. It

578
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:20.639
was a very difficult boss fight,
but everything that you're learning, it's kind

579
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.760
of programming you to be like,
you do need to do this because the

580
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:27.519
final boss fight is going to beat
your ass and it and he did.

581
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.519
It's so rewarding to be able to
finish this game. I love a good

582
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.880
boss fight like that that it's not
just like, you know, like a

583
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:36.239
lot of great games have a boss
fight, but you fight it like every

584
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.800
other boss or use the Master Sword
or whatever. I like ones that teach

585
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:43.960
you a ton of different mobility things
and attack things and Perry's and all these

586
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:45.800
things you have to keep in mind. And then they have a really great

587
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:47.320
boss fight at the end where it's
like, all right, now, show

588
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:50.440
that you know how to use all
that you know. That's really good A

589
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.000
game pulls that off. I don't
think it uses all of the different moves

590
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.239
in the final boss fight, but
I think what I'm saying is is like

591
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.920
all the things that I was like, Oh, this is like really tough

592
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.760
that you're making me navigate my drill
so expertly, and the final boss fight

593
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:05.480
is like, if you don't know
how to expertly use your drill by now,

594
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:08.199
you ain't gonna beat this game.
Sure, And I think that's really

595
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:13.519
cool. I think it makes the
player earn the credit sequence. I felt

596
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:16.039
great playing it. I also think
that it continued to mix up the gameplay,

597
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:20.119
which I was also very impressed by. We talked about in the last

598
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:22.800
one. Like I got a snowmobile
and I was like, this is great.

599
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.719
It does more cool shit like that. There was like a train sequence.

600
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:30.039
There was like a couple other like
really rad boss sequences that were very

601
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:37.639
difficult to get through. Oh there's
a mech that you can go into and

602
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.480
you can control like metal slug style. Nice. Yes, it's really cool

603
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:46.760
and it's just like all these different
and all those were really nice surprises for

604
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:51.079
me. You should experience them yourselves. But this was like the first time

605
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:55.159
where I was like, oh,
you did really make this game evolve over

606
00:42:55.239 --> 00:43:00.239
times that each level feels a bit
more distinct and more interesting. And again

607
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:04.440
I think the final boss fight for
me, it was such a slog It

608
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.599
was so difficult to get through.
By the time I hit credits, I

609
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:09.920
was like, this game is beautiful, Like I love what they did with

610
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:14.719
it. It's just a dewey game
in its core. There's no fucking text.

611
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.719
It never explains anything. Who the
hell knows what this story is about?

612
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:21.960
Like, what the fuck is going
on? She's got a drill and

613
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:23.760
there's like all these goblins that are
trying to kill her, Like it doesn't

614
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:27.400
make any sense at all, and
they don't give a shit about the story.

615
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.199
I think it is like it is
a really well made game, and

616
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:32.480
I think for fifteen bucks, like
I basically have become sold on it.

617
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:36.280
So I am a fan of Peppergrinder. Now how long would you say this

618
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:40.559
like for you to be and we
checked my hours on Steam, Yeah,

619
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:43.960
I should go back, Like that
seems like a good one to uh lit

620
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:45.400
up on like a for like a
flight or something like that. It's a

621
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:50.199
great I think it's a good one. I think because a Steam deck,

622
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:52.840
I would definitely want like a game
pad for it, So a steam deck

623
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:57.719
would be a good one. You
know. I'll put it right now on

624
00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:00.599
Best Playing Game for I got the
twenty twenty four category lit just so we

625
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:02.599
don't forget it. I'll put it
there. Yeah, I think it's great.

626
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:07.119
I was very impressed, and let
me just check my library. But

627
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.920
I was I remember saying to myself
like when I finally finished it, I

628
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.920
was like, oh, I'm glad
I finished it. Glad I finally completed

629
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:19.519
it. That is not accurate.
It's saying three point one hours. That's

630
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:23.400
that's impossible because I streamed it twice
for three hours apiece, and then I

631
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:28.199
and then I played it. I've
never seen that be so wrong before.

632
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.559
And then I played it for at
least four hours on vacation, so I

633
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:35.039
want to say it's a minimum ten
hours. I wonder if you're if you

634
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.400
played on that vacation on your steam
deck, but you haven't connected that to

635
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:39.360
the internet since you played that into
that that could be that could be the

636
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:43.719
case that it did an update,
because I've played it on two different occasions

637
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:47.679
on a stream, so that alone
is like seven hours plus I played it

638
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:53.119
on I would say twelve hours minimum. Nice. Yeah, I definitely liked

639
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:57.159
what I played. Yeah, it's
it's great. I was really proud.

640
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:59.719
I was really glad. I'm glad
to like say, I like concluded.

641
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.079
I think it has a good,
like satisfying ending, not that there's like

642
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.480
a story, but like there's a
really nice ending sequence that's cute. It's

643
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:09.800
just it's a it's a well made
little piece of little piece of game.

644
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:15.320
Nice. I'm looking for stuff because
I got a long flight coming up in

645
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:19.440
a bit and I'm looking for stuff
to bring on it. And I got

646
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.280
a light next week too. Maybe
we can share some recks. I've already

647
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.199
beaten pepper Grinders, so I can't
recommend that to myself, but I would

648
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:29.239
like a recommendation that you have for
a playing game. Well, I was

649
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:31.119
thinking to load and stuff up,
and I was going to download pepper Grinder

650
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:35.760
because I just got this ion Neo
flip ds this thing here, so it's

651
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:38.599
like a screen like grub got me
turned on to this stuff. It's straight

652
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:42.280
up just like the bottom screen is
a touch pad, so you can put

653
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:45.039
like for emulation for three DS and
for WEU and things like that, Like

654
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.039
I want to put wind Waker HD
on this thing. But it's also just

655
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:51.639
straight up Windows, so you can
put Steam on it and you can do

656
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:53.719
like unlike the same deck. I'm
sure you can do like Fortnite, the

657
00:45:53.880 --> 00:46:01.320
Epic games. If you do illegal, what part the device or to hear

658
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:07.679
the device is not illegal? I
mean said enough, I mean it's legal.

659
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.000
It's just a win. It's a
PC. So it's like you can

660
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:15.840
download Steam Etic Game Store and probably
does not want you to be playing their

661
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:22.199
games on there. Who said anything
about Nintendo? You did? Oh you

662
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.760
said you were gonna put your show
on right now? This could be anything.

663
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:29.960
It's look, it's an audio podcast. No one knows what I have

664
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.039
in my hand here, uh huh. But but yeah, it started.

665
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:36.320
It's like it's it's gonna make me
wonder like if I should bring my Steam

666
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:38.559
deck or this on things, because
like this actually has a smaller form factor.

667
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:43.800
I can do everything the Steam deck
can do in terms of like I

668
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.880
can download Steam games on it.
I'm sure, like horsepower wise and tech

669
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:51.039
wise and everything, the steam Deck
is probably superior. And it also is

670
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:52.960
just like since it is is a
thing that is meant to like play Steam

671
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:57.280
games, it does that so perfectly
that like, man, I might just

672
00:46:57.320 --> 00:46:59.159
let up the steam Deck. But
anyway, it's just it's a good time.

673
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:00.119
I think we're talking really, but
it's a good time to be in

674
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:05.679
a gamer on the go because between
like all the portable options and phone stuff

675
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.280
and Steam Deck and switch and like
now this thing, like I love that.

676
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.039
When I go on a long flight, I'm like, Okay, which

677
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:14.480
of these numerous devices or the analog
pocket or whatever am I gonna load up

678
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:15.960
with games and play on this long
flight? So yeah, it's a it's

679
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:20.519
a good problem to have deciding which
will bring I agree. Talk about where

680
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:24.400
you're going anything anywhere interesting? Uh, Europe is the plan. I got

681
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:30.239
to see how my head is doing
before the flights and stuff's going nuts about

682
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:35.000
something. But yeah, so I
should be going to Europe in next month,

683
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:39.440
but we'll see. Next week,
I am going to Saint Jude for

684
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:44.440
the Saint Jude Play Live festival.
Every year, they always bring a bunch

685
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:51.199
of creators who help raise money for
Saint Jude Children's Hospital to Memphis, Tennessee,

686
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:57.760
and I will be going. It's
such a tremendously powerful experience because you

687
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:05.159
meet children who have benefited from Saint
Jude and have been who are either like

688
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:08.440
experiencing treatment or finish their treatment or
now living like healthy, normal lives.

689
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.880
It's wild. And then all you
gotta do is like get them hooked on

690
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.840
gambling. You got like a whole
yeah time left to get them. Yeah,

691
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:21.159
absolutely, very I have I went, I've been to. I have

692
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.280
done this Saint Jude tour. I
think four times now. I love.

693
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:30.719
Yeah, it's super awesome. Based
in Memphis. Yeah, I think it's

694
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:40.639
where they're big because it's a campus. St. Jude big juge. Yeah.

695
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:50.480
Hey Juje, Hey Jude, don't
forget your deck on that flight from

696
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:58.639
Oregon to Memphis. Keep going,
keep going. I remember the Empire Survivors

697
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:05.559
has a DLCA coming out with guns. That's pretty weird. Hey Juje,

698
00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:12.800
stop drinking prime. You are Sacha. I'm ju Logan. Paul Shoe,

699
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:21.480
Now he sucked. Don't let your
kids into Dan's house. I agree with

700
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:24.880
their money. I have them.
Some stove gees leave the money in their

701
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:31.039
nail box. Yeah, I have
not played. I've been playing a lot

702
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:35.039
for work, but free time wise, i've not played a ton. I

703
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:39.519
did start a new Elden Ring play
through character with the intent of preparing for

704
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:45.360
Shadow of the Urd Tree in June, the big DLC. I guess I

705
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.360
could have just used my other character
to get ready for it, but I

706
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.000
don't know. The prospect of seeing
a lot of those early areas with a

707
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.000
different build was fun. I could
have done the respect with the Pope Turtle,

708
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:59.599
but again, you know you wouldn't
go back and see Margaret the same

709
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:02.400
way. Now I'm doing the I
never did the bleed build. I'm doing

710
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:06.719
the dual Katana Samurai build right now. It's fun. A lot of bleed

711
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:08.639
damage just builds up really quickly,
and then they lose like a quarter of

712
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:15.599
their health bar when you hit them
enough. Yeah it's pretty good. Yeah,

713
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:22.159
I will say that. Let me
think back on so two years ago?

714
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:30.360
Was it twenty two? Yeah?
I love Eldon Ring, but I'm

715
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:34.119
getting bored more often than I remember
the first time I played it. And

716
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.880
granted I'm not into the very interesting
parts yet, Like I'm still ling Grave

717
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:45.960
and the first Legacy Dungeon the Castle, but also maybe the Bleed Bill is

718
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:51.519
just a bit more powerful, so
it's not as challenging yet, but I'm

719
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:58.400
definitely finding that as I'm exploring on
Torrent the Horse your mount and I'm going

720
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:00.480
like down to the Weeping Peninsula down
south. We Obviously a lot of the

721
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.440
mystery is just by nature of it
being my third playthrough is gonna be gone,

722
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:10.280
but I'm getting just Also, Tiers
the Kingdom like kind of ruined,

723
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:15.320
like getting from point A to B
in a way that elden Ring wasn't trying

724
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:17.519
to be Breath of the Wild,
But then Tears of the Kingdom came along

725
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:22.239
and just went so much deeper and
also in a way that elden Ring does

726
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:27.199
too in terms of going underground an
a high but down. The game's still

727
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:32.639
phenomenal. I'm it's still just so
well tuned mechanically, and I'm still just

728
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:37.079
having a blast exploring, even if
it's not the same as it once was.

729
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.639
Yeah, it's still good. I'm
gonnamute my mic and see why my

730
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:45.360
dog's losing his mind. Sorry,
I'll be back. Woodpeckers, it's the

731
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:52.360
woodpeckers. Mary. I need you
to stop me from doing something. Okay,

732
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:59.440
I've been I'm not traditionally an MMO
guy, but for work purposes,

733
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:05.079
I've just been looking more into momos
and kind of getting into the MMO space

734
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:13.440
lately, and I have I'm trying
to not get into Wow when I'm this

735
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:16.719
age and at this point, huh, I'm pretty confident I won't get like

736
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:21.239
into Wow in the way that people
used to when they were, you know,

737
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:23.599
eighteen. I'm not gonna do that
their lives away. Yeah, I

738
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:27.119
won't be doing that. I don't. I just don't play games like that.

739
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:29.639
When Wharf, when I got into
War from like that was like all

740
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:31.639
right, I'm done. But like, I kind of want to dabble in

741
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:35.440
Wow because there's so much I've missed
since I played it in two thousand and

742
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:39.199
like seven or whatever. Okay,
should I just not? Uh? Yeah?

743
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:44.440
Are you asking me to tell you
not to play Wow? So apparently

744
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:46.360
they had their like best year?
Yeah, yeah, it just stop me.

745
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:52.280
Just tell me not to. Don't
you waste your life in Wow.

746
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.000
Get out of there. There are
other things for you to do with your

747
00:52:55.079 --> 00:53:00.719
time and your money and your energy. You are not eighteen dropping out of

748
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:07.000
college anymore. Go outside or play
a different game, don't play Wow.

749
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:14.000
Okay, I muted Mike's talking about
playing Wow, so I was telling her

750
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:20.480
for work stuff. Lately, I've
just been looking deeper around the MMO space

751
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:24.679
when I'm not traditionally an MMO player, and I have like a code for

752
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:30.119
like this, the Wow Ultimate Edition, and I've been reading apparently last year

753
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:36.239
was one of its best years ever. And I never I've never really gotten

754
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.440
into a game the way some of
my friends got into Wow. I've just

755
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:44.159
never really I think the closest,
like I said, would have been a

756
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:49.079
Warframe. But then Wow is something
that I'm curious what they were doing with

757
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:52.199
Season of Discovery, with some of
the classic stuff, with the hardcore.

758
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:54.920
I was tempted to do one of
the Permit Death characters, but I also

759
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:58.960
just it's not that I would get
sucked into it and spend all my time

760
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:01.320
doing that. In fact, i'd
probably bounce off. It just feels so

761
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:07.440
weird to go back to Wow in
twenty twenty four. There's got to be

762
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.119
a better like MMO to put your
time into, too. I don't think

763
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:15.280
so any better MMOs than that I
played. I played a decent amount of

764
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:17.519
final Fantasy fourteam. For what it's
worth, I mean that genre I vowed

765
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:21.719
in two thousand and forward never to
get into because like I just remember seeing

766
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:23.480
first of all, the idea of
paying every month for a game was the

767
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:25.079
craziest thing in the world. In
me, I was like, what the

768
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:29.519
fuck? Like that cannot wrap my
head around that. But like I saw

769
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:30.960
a good friend of mine that I
knew au Thor junior high in high school,

770
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:34.639
great friend of mine. He was
like an athlete. He was in

771
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.840
med school at my college. He
had this great relationship that he'd been with

772
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:42.239
this girl for so long, and
he got into Wow and he lost.

773
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:45.800
He dropped out of school. He
uh, he got super out of shape.

774
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:49.280
He broke up with his girlfriend,
like all these things and like that

775
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:52.119
just became what he did. He
stopped going out. He sat like all

776
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:53.719
he did was play Wow all the
time. And like I wasn't super interested

777
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:57.079
to begin with. I like Warcraft
too, with the RTS, but like

778
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:00.920
nothing about the game appealed to me
anyway. But then like the money thing

779
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:01.960
and the potential, Like and he
wasn't the only case, you know,

780
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:05.239
you would hear about lots of people
just getting sucked in it was like,

781
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:07.639
I'm never fucking with this. I
love video games, but I got enough.

782
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:08.400
I don't need to ever play a
game that I have to play for

783
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:12.559
a thousand hour or same with Doda
League, any of that shit. Just

784
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.760
never. You're not wrong about how
it can be so addictive that it can

785
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:20.920
be harmful in a way. But
I will I will make a shout out

786
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:29.039
about the money for some people who
I'm trying to think of, like a

787
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:35.000
good example, I know people who
were like really financially struggling, sure,

788
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.960
and the thing that they did was
they paid for a subscription to Wow,

789
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:43.719
which back then was like what ten
bucks a month? Yeah, is it

790
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:49.559
not anymore? If models? Yeah, going back in the day, right

791
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:54.360
when you're like poor eighteen year old
in college or whatever or just fresh out

792
00:55:54.480 --> 00:56:00.239
and you're figuring your life out.
It can be your movie ticket, it's

793
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:04.800
it's your Netflix, it's your everything, it's it is the thing that you

794
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:08.320
do for entertainment, and it's ten
bucks a month is no matter how much

795
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:13.679
you play, and for an MMO, you can play that shit like forty

796
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:17.119
hours, like eighty hours a week. So for I debate the idea that

797
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:21.599
it's like too expensive because it's monthly, because the idea is that it's it

798
00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:23.920
could be everything for your entertainment for
the entire month. And I get that.

799
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:27.519
And that was a pregame pass world
where you could just pay, you

800
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:29.639
know, a subscription service and get
a bunch of different stuff. So like

801
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:31.880
that does make sense, and I
think it was more just personally win against

802
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:35.679
how I play games, where it's
like I always wanted to play pretty much

803
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.920
everything, you know. I know
I'm saying right now, like entire genre

804
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:39.760
as I've said no things, but
like I like to play a ton of

805
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:44.559
different games, and so the idea
of paying every month and possibly getting like

806
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:47.440
way too into this and at the
expense of playing other games, you know,

807
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:50.880
Like he used to play everything and
then he got into Wow, and

808
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:52.440
I would ask him like, oh
what do you think about this? Or

809
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:52.960
this just come out on a GameCube, be like, oh no, I'm

810
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:55.079
just playing Wow. You know.
It's like, well, okay, that's

811
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:58.639
all you do now. And I've
seen the same thing with Doda, with

812
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:00.800
League, with things like that,
and it's just like, I don't know,

813
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:06.079
this is not not ever how I've
wanted to play games. I spend

814
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:09.199
my time on worthwhile things like speed
running quackshot for the Sega Genesis, but

815
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:15.679
chugging prime and yes, my time
is value. Yeah, okay, now

816
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:20.360
for what it's worth. I'm I'm
exaggerating. I'm gonna I just am curious

817
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:23.360
what's going on the Wow, it's
hardcore, permanenough mode, it's classic mode,

818
00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:25.119
and people are just saying, like, last year was one of its

819
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:30.400
best ever. I played. I
never got sucked in a while. It's

820
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:34.239
something about it. It didn't grab
me like it did other people. But

821
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:38.280
I've just been in the space for
my day job and looking into the MMO

822
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:40.840
space more so now I'm like,
huh, maybe I'll see what was going

823
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:45.400
on last year in a while,
but that would take too much time away

824
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:51.039
from Warhammer three, which has a
good looking DLC coming out in two weeks.

825
00:57:51.320 --> 00:58:00.000
Oh RTS Warhammer three. Yeah,
Total war War Total warkably long run

826
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:05.039
Total War series, right, I
don't. I've never played, and I've

827
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:07.760
talked about this game like so much
time. You say, like Warhammer,

828
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:10.800
or like there's the Mice one,
there's the Orc one, and like it

829
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:16.000
all. I've heard these words decades. There's there's the forty K thing,

830
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:21.840
and then there's the I just I've
heard Warhammer words for decades and never once

831
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:23.559
had a good sense of what anyone's
taking. Okay, but I have to

832
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:28.320
point out that, like I've talked
about Total War Warhammer three so much on

833
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:30.679
this show that I believe you youto, Like we had a we have a

834
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:34.599
running bit about how YouTube tune out
when I talk about it. Why No,

835
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:36.760
But it just probably just sounds like
a mic game. I don't think

836
00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:40.519
I realized it was the same game
over and over again. Are you fucking

837
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:44.719
with me? No? I don't. If you put a gun to my

838
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:47.639
head and said it is Total War
Warhammer three a real game, I wouldn't

839
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:52.920
know. You might, you might, You're losing your mind. I don't.

840
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:57.079
First of all, I don't remember
anything that we do on this podcast,

841
00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:00.480
so not just Total War, but
I especially don't know what the Total

842
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:02.599
War is outside of like it used
to be like a Command of Conquer type

843
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:06.920
thing, and now apparently they're doing
stuff with the rat or series with the

844
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:10.840
painted things. Okay, I don't
know. I don't know. I to

845
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:14.599
be faced down to my head coin
flip. Aside from the fact that I've

846
00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:17.840
talked about this very game, I
think maybe twenty separate episodes of the show.

847
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:21.480
I'm gonna say twenty times. Hang, let me let me try something,

848
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:29.000
Mary, describe Total War Warhammer three. It's a strategy game. He's

849
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:30.599
talked about it twenty times, so
you got a lot of material to work

850
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:35.599
with here. Okay, But when
he talks about it, he doesn't say

851
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:39.320
like, he just tells about how
he feels. So he it's a strategy

852
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:45.360
game that no matter how much time
he sinks into it, he feels like

853
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:53.280
it still pulls at his brain.
Remember him understand of his decision making?

854
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:55.760
Yeah, wait, what tile the
movie is rat to? Yeah? Yeah,

855
00:59:55.840 --> 01:00:00.360
but play now? I know,
I know, I mean it's a

856
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:05.760
call back, But what is the
what is the game? I'm I'm not

857
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:07.639
mocking you, Mary, I'm saying
you're on the same level I'm at right,

858
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:12.199
Like, can you describe this video
game? I listened to his passion.

859
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:15.800
I don't need to understand the mechanics
played my game. I'm Mary,

860
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:21.199
kiss let's talk about a three leg
This game is a three like okay,

861
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:25.679
side, No, you're not you're
telling me you don't know what this game

862
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:28.639
is. Okay, it's not just
me. Neither of us know what the

863
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:34.760
fuck that game is. We understand
fair enough that it's a strategy and there's

864
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:37.760
probably mice. You're looking at the
Wikipedia article right now, are you your

865
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:45.000
other monitors? Okay? Really?
Okay, quick rundown, Yes, you're

866
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:47.880
right. When I say Warhammer three, I'm referring to Total war Warhammer three.

867
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:52.639
Okay, that is the fantasy old
world side of Warhammer. There's also

868
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:58.280
Warhammer forty thousand. There are orcs, but there's orcs in the Warhammer forty

869
01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:00.800
thousand, which is the future sci
fi the stuff. What are you trying

870
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:08.320
to do? Explain Total war war
Hammer three once? What are you trying?

871
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:15.239
It's a four X game, so
half of it that's not gonna help.

872
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:16.639
But how do you not know what
a four X game is? You're

873
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:22.400
a video game professional and you don't
know what a four X game? It's

874
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:28.199
before more than one x. That
sounds right, okay? Civilization Oh okay,

875
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:36.000
anything made by parasymmetric tile based Yes, basically Fox into the Breach four

876
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:39.239
x not it not in any way. No, just because it's isometric or

877
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:45.519
tile based does not make it four
x four X. It's explore, expand

878
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:52.159
exploit. I forget. It's basically
civilization games, but it's not exactly real

879
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:55.119
time strategy because there's also the turn
based element. Okay, and then it's

880
01:01:55.159 --> 01:02:00.559
not it's not completely Grand Strategy because
there are real time elements. It's like

881
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:07.800
a strategy that's more if it's just
the civilization aspect and there's not you're also

882
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:10.679
managing like there's kind of interchangeable between
four X and Grand Strategy, but that's

883
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:15.119
something like I guess parts of Iron
four would kind of blend between them,

884
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:19.320
where you're actually managing supply lines during
World War Two, that kind of stuff.

885
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:23.199
Like Grand Strategy, you're not just
managing separate armies, you're actually managing

886
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:28.440
every intricacy of war. So it's
like the Madden franchise mode where you like

887
01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:30.960
set the price of hot dogs.
Yeah, I guess, so that would

888
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:34.519
be Grand Strategy compared to the real
time strategy of an actual game of Madden.

889
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:37.000
Okay, I like that. Yeah, But Total War Rammer three is

890
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:42.400
half of it is turn based campaign
maps, and it's more like civilization where

891
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:46.159
you're building up individual cities, but
then you're building up armies and when they

892
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:50.719
meet on the map, you go
into real time battles. What about the

893
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:54.079
chaos gods. Oh there's four of
them, and there's factions revolving around them.

894
01:02:54.280 --> 01:02:57.760
There's nerves. You're right, I
don't think she's looking at the Wikipedia.

895
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:01.599
Yeah. There's Nerd of Hustlence and
decay and the Cycle of Life,

896
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:07.840
and his followers are all about just
uh, the plague and how it kills

897
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:14.000
and then revives and fertilizes. Then
there's Slanash, who is all about excess

898
01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:20.559
and greed and classic pleasure pleasure,
and his followers are all about just like,

899
01:03:20.760 --> 01:03:23.800
uh, you know, seeking pleasure
at its highest amounts. And then

900
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:28.440
there's more of a real time hybrid
four x guy like sort of the Stars

901
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:31.639
and Showgun Total War. Starships Unlimited
is really good. Show Gun Total War

902
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:35.559
is in the same series that we're
talking about right now. Sure. Yeah,

903
01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:39.199
So I'm saying like Glass dread Lords
was a good one. Yeah.

904
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:44.760
See, Hype and Evo was great. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

905
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:47.320
I like how the genre has been
extended by gamers who have supported free sopper

906
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:52.599
releases like free seven, free Calling, free writing. Yeah, it's Scotty

907
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:57.280
Jails coming out soon. I'm looking
forward to it. What do you do

908
01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:02.159
in it? Just more of that. But they they're reworking factions, but

909
01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:06.480
they're reworking some of the They're reworking
two of the original factions for the first

910
01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:11.760
game, and they're reworking one of
the launch factions from the third game.

911
01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:19.199
I just like the idea that their
marketing is like some more of that boy

912
01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:23.199
forgot that gets out a lot and
it go to restaurants and has friends and

913
01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:27.719
stuff. You like some nerdy ass
games. I know. Honestly, Okay,

914
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:31.159
here's here's a real thing. Now
that I'm not an editorial and like,

915
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:35.440
not forced but kind of forced to
play everything, I really do.

916
01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:39.440
It's one of the great joys of
my life to be able to just play

917
01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:43.920
like strategy games. I'm actually in
the mood for. It's nice. And

918
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:45.519
not to say I'm not gonna like
I want to play. I mean,

919
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:51.519
I love Prince of Persia Bilastros awesome. I'm still going through Infinite Wealth.

920
01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:56.440
That Infinite Wealth might actually I have
done quite the one ad of that game.

921
01:04:56.440 --> 01:04:58.800
That might be my leading game of
the year right now. I've not

922
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:02.440
played Rebirth yet or a Rise of
the Ronan, and I'm very excited for

923
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:05.719
Home World three, which is a
strategy game in may you don't have to

924
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:10.199
tell me. Yeah, I know
Home World was one of the original arts

925
01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:14.440
is at the time of like Command
of Conquer, But yeah, no,

926
01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:19.239
I like some deep cut games.
Yes, you might be a smarter game.

927
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:26.599
There's no butt stomp. Oh sorry
sorry, double jump Okay, that's

928
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:30.079
what Mount rushmore of things you can
do? Yeah, sorry sorry. You

929
01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:32.360
can't put out a bottle of Prime
that distracts a guard while you shoot him

930
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:38.239
with a blow dart in the neck. Hey, al right, sounds pretty

931
01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:42.880
cool. Yeah, that sounds pretty
cool, Mike. You let's call up.

932
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:46.800
Let's call up Hideosan Coachman. I
fucked that up. Let's call up

933
01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:53.440
coach Masan. Get some Prime in
Metal Gear Solid three remake with Hideo and

934
01:05:53.519 --> 01:06:00.199
drink Prime one day. You'll regret
your words indeeds about Prime. Never unless

935
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:06.239
it makes me stinky. It's there's
evidence, there's evidence that suggests it's not

936
01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:10.360
like bad bad. It's just noticing
a little bit and I've never noticed it

937
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:13.840
before. So Prime, that's the
worst of it. Bad at it?

938
01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:19.559
What does Prime smell like? Candy
Skittles? Really? Nothing that can't be

939
01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:23.760
good for you. It's like the
popsicles with the where you cut the tops

940
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:25.840
off. But it's like if you
melted that and just filled a jug with

941
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:30.360
it. That sounds good. Yeah, it is water, good for you.

942
01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:35.000
I can Google. You're gonna find
good stuff. Uh oh, Mary,

943
01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:39.599
we can all Wikipedia. Mary,
thank you for backing me up on

944
01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:42.719
neither of us knowing what the game. I didn't back you up. I

945
01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:45.639
fucking don't know. I know me
too, but you help prove my point.

946
01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:48.920
No, you called me out,
and I was not able to do

947
01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:53.880
anything to get out of anything.
We're both it's not a solidarity thing.

948
01:06:54.079 --> 01:07:00.199
I didn't want to be involved.
You can't make me in solidarity. You

949
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:02.159
with you. I was trying to
get away. Look, we're a team.

950
01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:05.760
We did it. We didn't know
something to get you. You're an

951
01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:11.519
ignorant, bad friend. And I
listened to him talk about I knew just

952
01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:16.559
as much as I knew what I
knew about the chaos gods. What is

953
01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:19.280
your head turned? Why your head
turn? You're looking at something else now

954
01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:27.159
the realm of chaos. Uh huh. Bac Lava has imprisoned the Wounded Ersen

955
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:30.840
and the Forge of Souls in the
realm of chaos. I know all about

956
01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:32.320
that. We know. You knew
so much about this. You've been listening

957
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:38.400
to Mike. She listens, so
that's what she does. Every word,

958
01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:44.760
Dan, what else are you playing? Oh god, this is not gonna.

959
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:47.360
I'm just the name of this game. After Mike mocking me for playing

960
01:07:47.440 --> 01:08:00.719
stupid, I've been playing Yellow Taxi
Goes Room. You fucking moron. You

961
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:04.760
going up about these like deep complex
strategic poor X games. I play Yellow

962
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:12.880
Taxi goes Room. Tell us more
about this Yellow Taxi. Tell us about

963
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:15.520
it. You wouldn't believe it.
I Uh, it's a n sixty four

964
01:08:15.600 --> 01:08:18.560
throwback, and I enjoy that because
I don't know, if you know.

965
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:23.920
I like the Nintendo sixty four and
it's like a platformer but you're a car

966
01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:27.680
and it's weird and it's funny and
it's a collectithon and it's uh. I

967
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:30.800
played it on a plane to Philadelphia. It made me laugh and I liked

968
01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:35.199
getting all those coins and stuff.
There's a Hub World. It's a throwback

969
01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:41.199
on PC that released this year to
the n sixty four era. Correct,

970
01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:44.399
it's like like a like the same
way that like a Yuku Lele or a

971
01:08:44.720 --> 01:08:46.520
cave story or things like that I
have done. I feel like you're starting

972
01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:50.680
to see more of those sixty four
throwbacks. These it's like inspired by yeah,

973
01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:53.520
totally, but it's got its own
weird sense of here, we're in

974
01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:56.439
everything, and just the fact that
like you're a little car driving around instead

975
01:08:56.439 --> 01:09:00.560
of like a little mascot platformer.
It's a yeah, it's fun so good.

976
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:05.880
Yeah, that's Yellow Taxi Goes Room. It's so funny. It's just

977
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:11.680
like hearing two adults in the room
and then some fucking moron comes and goes

978
01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:16.159
I've been playing Yellow Taxi Goes Room. I'm ten years older than I.

979
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:24.600
Like getting the coins. I'm jerking
my logan pole juice and playing Yellow Taxi

980
01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:27.800
Goes Room. Yeah, good job, Dan, Go take a shower.

981
01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:32.920
Mike's going to vineyards and talking about
four X strategyn't leave your house because you're

982
01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:42.600
battling a family of woodpeckers. Why
are you stinking when I run? Now?

983
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:49.479
This is like it's always sunny.
The farther into the the farther into

984
01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:54.000
the show they get, the more
they become caricatures of themselves. In season

985
01:09:54.039 --> 01:10:00.680
one, oh I took six seconds
off my quackshot time this morning a fucking

986
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:06.760
really reductive potion. The other day
it was like actually offended me. I

987
01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:13.960
spin on the waiter. Oh god, I'm bringing Nixon back from the dead

988
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:18.640
and I'm campaigning for him. Road
finished his story, but we're gonna do

989
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:29.720
it. Ronald Nixon's cozy Tour campaign
for president. Oh god, games,

990
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:34.479
I have one more that I think
actually I've really enjoyed and so I'm excited

991
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:39.079
to talk to you guys about it. It's called Children of the Sun.

992
01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:46.119
Have you heard of this game.
It's a sniper game. It's a sniper

993
01:10:47.840 --> 01:10:54.800
visually styled to hell. So the
person who made this and it seems like

994
01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:57.640
one of those like one person games, it gives me a one person game

995
01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:04.119
vibe. Uh Published by Devolver,
this game gives you some of what's it

996
01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:10.800
called, uh Hot? What's the
one where you're also sniper. It'll give

997
01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:15.079
you some super hot vibes and you
might be like, that game was cool

998
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:18.319
and stylized. This is similar.
It is a sniper that is very cool

999
01:11:18.359 --> 01:11:23.199
and stylized, but it's a totally
different concept. The concept is you put

1000
01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:29.479
someone in a space and you say, shoot these six people, and so

1001
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:31.920
you get to like tag them all
metal gear style, like you tag their

1002
01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:33.920
little heads. You know where they
are and where they're walking, and you

1003
01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:40.399
see their AI patterns and you decide
to take your first shot. And when

1004
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:45.960
you take your first shot, let's
say it shoots Guy one. Your second

1005
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:49.399
shot is from Guy one now and
you're that's a starting point. Yeah,

1006
01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:53.920
that's right. And when you if
you're able to successfully murder Guy two,

1007
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:57.720
that's your new starting point. And
then you shoot Guy three, and you

1008
01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:01.840
do that until you kill all six
people and you create a path. And

1009
01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:06.399
it's neat because once you've killed everybody, it shows you your path top down,

1010
01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:12.880
bird's eye view style. It shows
your unique path. It also gives

1011
01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:16.119
you a unique scoring system. You
get more points for headshots. Oh,

1012
01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:20.760
this is a cool one. You
get more points for being able to kill

1013
01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:25.520
people in succession within like maybe two
seconds of each other. So if I'm

1014
01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:29.399
able to like boom boom, boom
boom and like ZipZap around the map and

1015
01:12:29.479 --> 01:12:33.399
kill all the people quickly and finish
my murders, that's a higher score than

1016
01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:38.439
someone who takes their time thinks about
it. There's additional points for distance,

1017
01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:42.760
which I think is really neat.
So if I'm taking the longest distance between

1018
01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:48.760
my people and zigzagging around the map, which also makes a fun design that's

1019
01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:53.840
worth more than shooting people really close
to each other. So is there almost

1020
01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:56.920
like this like Tony Hawk like combo
score element of it? Like, is

1021
01:12:56.920 --> 01:13:00.439
there a like leader board at the
end? Yes? Not? Is there

1022
01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:04.680
a leaderboard? Dan, there's a
friend leaderboard? Oh no, And I'm

1023
01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:10.279
going for Okay, Grub is fucking
crazy. His scores are out of this

1024
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:15.039
world. But I've been going for
Grub and Alex and I've been getting a

1025
01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:19.279
lot of their scores beat. So
I challenge you, Dan White. It

1026
01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:25.520
has so it's very different than Neon
White. Friends scoring system is so addictive

1027
01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:29.039
to be able to beat your friend's
scores. And like again, I just

1028
01:13:29.039 --> 01:13:31.319
have to say this, Grub is
fucking out of his mind. His scores

1029
01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:35.159
are so high that in some of
these he's in like the top fifty of

1030
01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:40.920
all gamers, which is nuts.
Yeah, real, what Mike, what's

1031
01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:44.359
happening? Is the right? All
right? So just now when you said

1032
01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:45.840
it's like Neon White, I was
like, Dan, I just said that.

1033
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:48.319
I was like, oh wait,
I muted my microphone like twenty seconds

1034
01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:53.800
ago to fart. I forgot to
unmued it. But I legitimately said it's

1035
01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:56.800
just like Neon White and then you
said it immediately. You're so ignorant,

1036
01:13:56.840 --> 01:14:00.880
Mike. It looks like a yeah, crossbitch, I mean Neon White,

1037
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:03.720
and like you mentioned super hot.
And then I like the path of the

1038
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:09.279
bullet it shows at the end based
on the Steam videos kind of what the

1039
01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:14.119
hell is the hotline Miami almost like
the overhead. Sure it has a hotline

1040
01:14:14.159 --> 01:14:18.680
Miami Vibe too, because at some
point you are going for speed because there's

1041
01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:21.800
there's a couple other points things that
I think are interesting. So yes,

1042
01:14:23.119 --> 01:14:27.600
doing a combo between people will give
you a higher score. It costs you

1043
01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:32.319
points per bullet. So if you
can kill multiple people with like one bullet,

1044
01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:35.800
that's where too. Yeah, because
this video I'm looking at is like

1045
01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:42.000
he got to a guy in a
cabin where he couldn't see the people below

1046
01:14:42.079 --> 01:14:45.640
him, so he shot to this
arrow like on the outskirts of the map

1047
01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:49.479
to readjust but that cost it him
points because he had to use like the

1048
01:14:49.520 --> 01:14:56.359
maps shortcut. Yeah, there's a
couple like really interesting things. I want

1049
01:14:56.359 --> 01:14:58.199
to be careful with how much I
give away. I don't think this is

1050
01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:01.279
actually giving way too much. There's
little things like you can shoot. Uh,

1051
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:04.560
you can shoot like the cars,
you can use. There's explosion this

1052
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:09.159
game, like you can you can
kill people in unique ways, which I

1053
01:15:09.159 --> 01:15:14.600
don't think everyone will think about.
And uh, there is a point in

1054
01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:18.319
the game where it starts to really
alter what you're able to do. And

1055
01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:21.399
I think that's really cool. And
Grub ain't there yet because I've been beating

1056
01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:25.840
some levels and his name is an
almost more so I know he hasn't gotten

1057
01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:31.479
there's some crazy fucking levels coming up
now where they're starting to allow you to

1058
01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:39.119
like manipulate the bullet very slightly bend
the bullet. You can bend where it's

1059
01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:42.880
so you can bend the bullet.
You can do this really cool thing now.

1060
01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:45.000
They they put a lot of rules
behind it. You can't just do

1061
01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:47.720
whatever you want, but yes,
you can slightly bend bullets. And there's

1062
01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:53.520
this really neat thing you can do
now where you can shoot your gun and

1063
01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:56.239
then maybe like halfway through will be
like, okay, now I want that

1064
01:15:56.279 --> 01:15:59.319
to be my new spot where I
can pick up a spot. It's like

1065
01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:02.039
say, there's like a hiding mind
a wall you can shoot and then be

1066
01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:06.319
the bullets new trajectory. And then
like and then completely change. It's really

1067
01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:10.439
fucking cool. I think this is
a very well designed game. I think

1068
01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:15.760
it's very interesting. The friend systems
that you can like compete against your friends

1069
01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:20.640
awesome, it's not. There's a
couple quality of life that I wish they

1070
01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:24.560
had that they didn't. For example, in a lot of those other games,

1071
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:27.279
you can watch other people's replays.
In this game, you cannot watch

1072
01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:31.439
other people no replay system, so
like you have to imagine how they got

1073
01:16:31.439 --> 01:16:41.560
that score and do your best.
You Also, yeah, and uh,

1074
01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:45.319
you cannot see the friends scores from
the menu. So if I want to

1075
01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:48.880
be like I want to beat Grub, I have to go into the level,

1076
01:16:49.640 --> 01:16:54.760
watch this little intro cut scene which
like who cares right, and then

1077
01:16:54.840 --> 01:17:00.159
like and then like click to the
friends scores and find out that Grub has

1078
01:17:00.199 --> 01:17:02.159
like an insane score before I can
compete against him. So I find that

1079
01:17:02.239 --> 01:17:05.640
to be a little annoying, considering, like, I'm a very competitive person,

1080
01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:09.439
and that's why I'm getting really into
this game. But I think if

1081
01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:13.640
there were no friends and it had
nothing to do with that, I genuinely

1082
01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:18.520
believe that this is a very interesting
take on the sniper puzzle genre. Of

1083
01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:21.159
games. I don't know how many
others there are. I think this is

1084
01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:26.680
an extremely well made game in terms
of like just style and the concept of

1085
01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:30.119
it. It's awesome. Oh you
can fucking shoot birds and then use them

1086
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:32.439
to shoot from It's so cool,
Like it's wow. It's a very neat

1087
01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:35.520
game. So I do. I
really do recommend it. I will say

1088
01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:41.600
though, one more warning. For
whatever reason, this designer really likes s

1089
01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:45.479
flashy stroby lights. It is not
good for people who are like epileptic or

1090
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:49.960
have issues with flashy things. I
didn't see any no, and some of

1091
01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:54.479
it was like inexcusable. It was
just like you are trying to give me

1092
01:17:55.039 --> 01:17:58.520
a problem with the flashing going on. So I don't care for any of

1093
01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:00.439
the c I skip every cuts in
this game. I couldn't give a shit

1094
01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:03.520
about the cut scenes. Sure do
you think this would be a good playing

1095
01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:08.239
game? But I'm trying to like
load up these devices. That's a really

1096
01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:14.960
good question. I think that it
will be. Yes, I am playing

1097
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:18.119
it with nothing but a mouse right
now, Okay, not a lot of

1098
01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:21.199
keyboards because you're not like moving.
It's not like was the It's you're just

1099
01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:27.319
shooting and shooting and shooting. You're
just shooting. I'm sure that they've solved

1100
01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:31.520
it for a uh for a Steam
deck I played it with. Like I

1101
01:18:31.520 --> 01:18:35.920
said, I played it on my
PC and every button was mapped to my

1102
01:18:35.960 --> 01:18:40.319
mouse. It was like move your
mouse left and right click, right click

1103
01:18:40.399 --> 01:18:45.279
and the middle wheel. That's it. Okay, five button game. It's

1104
01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:49.680
crazy. It's good. The story
sounds like Mandy, like the plot and

1105
01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:57.560
all the psychedelic graphics are very psychedelic. If you're like a like PS one

1106
01:18:57.960 --> 01:19:01.840
era or no, like early v
R graphics, Mandy. You're killing a

1107
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:05.720
cult that like, you're getting revenge
on a cult. That sounds great to

1108
01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:11.439
me. Yeah, the poblems,
you're transparent that you're killing cultists. Yeah.

1109
01:19:11.479 --> 01:19:14.279
And it is kind of fucked up, like all the cut scenes are

1110
01:19:14.279 --> 01:19:15.800
basically like kill them all, like
fuck them up, and it's like kind

1111
01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:21.039
of like sadistic and weird. But
the gameplay is so good. I've I've

1112
01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:24.760
like overlooked anything that I'm like,
I don't really care for that because the

1113
01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:30.359
gameplay is amazing and it just keeps
every level they add something new. They

1114
01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:34.680
just added armor, and it's really
fun because sometimes there'll be a guy right

1115
01:19:34.720 --> 01:19:36.479
next to you, and you'll be
like, I can kill that guy,

1116
01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:40.239
but he's wearing armor. And if
you want to kill the guys with armor,

1117
01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:42.720
you got to be really far away, which means now I have to

1118
01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:46.760
kill like four men really far away
so that I have enough distance for my

1119
01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:50.239
bullet to gain enough speed so that
I can kill the armor guy. That's

1120
01:19:50.279 --> 01:19:58.960
fun. You guys will like it
picked up. Yeah, Devolver did it

1121
01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:00.920
again. They have a really I
always say this, like I just feel

1122
01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:03.520
like, usually not all the time, but like when developer published something,

1123
01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:06.239
I'm always like, I gotta check
that out because we have a vibe,

1124
01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:12.159
and this game is well made,
is a well well designed puzzle sniper game,

1125
01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:15.640
and their brand is super strong.
Like they they do have a vibe

1126
01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:18.039
to them. It's yeah, yeah, you kind of know at least the

1127
01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:21.239
vibe you're gonna get with a developer
game. And yeah, they also have

1128
01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:25.880
like pretty reasonable price points. Again, this game is fifteen bucks, which

1129
01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:28.600
I think is pretty reasonable. I
have not I haven't beat it. I

1130
01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:32.199
think I've put four hours into this
game, and I'm loving it. It

1131
01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:35.359
looks great. I mean that sounds
good. I'm going to play this on

1132
01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:42.039
EC tomorrow. I would love that. Let me know on the scoreboard because

1133
01:20:42.079 --> 01:20:44.920
we're buds. You should see my
scores on there, and then you should

1134
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:48.840
see Grubs. It's nuts. So
like my scores are like two thousand points,

1135
01:20:49.399 --> 01:20:53.680
Navarro is usually like right with me, like we're both right around two

1136
01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:56.640
thousand, and then like Grubb will
be like eight thousand, you know,

1137
01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:00.640
top fifty of the United States,
Like what the fuck does he did this

1138
01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:02.760
with me? On White is like
he played that first like chapter or whatever,

1139
01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:06.560
of like ten levels and got crazy
scores on all of them. But

1140
01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:09.479
you, you know, we wanted
to see at the end of the game,

1141
01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:13.359
and you just his scores drop off
early. He just super perfects some

1142
01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:15.159
which which is a way to do
it for sure, But he doesn't like

1143
01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:17.880
do the whole thing like me.
I mean, it's his vibe. I'm

1144
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:21.840
the opposite actually, So like I
just get through the level. Beating a

1145
01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:27.520
level is solving a puzzle, right, like figuring out the right way,

1146
01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:29.680
and there is no right way,
right, Like, you will beat these

1147
01:21:29.760 --> 01:21:32.960
levels very different the way I do
it. But getting through a level is

1148
01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:36.239
a huge achievement. And then when
you see your score and you see grub

1149
01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:40.279
score, you'll be like, if
I replayed this level half a dozen times,

1150
01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:42.680
I might be able to beat that. I am fucking doing that.

1151
01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:45.920
I move on to the next level, and so I'm on like level like

1152
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:49.880
twenty seven, and Grubs stopped after
like level fourteen. He's just he's just

1153
01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:54.239
like an addict for the ones that
he did. Yeah, I think I'm

1154
01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:57.159
closer to you, Mary and that. Like I'll beat the game and then

1155
01:21:57.199 --> 01:21:59.399
I'll go back and I'll be like, all right, let's get everything,

1156
01:21:59.399 --> 01:22:01.279
all the ones that are like bronze
level. I'll get the meddle for that,

1157
01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:03.119
and it's like, okay, now
these aren't silver, and I'll like

1158
01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:08.479
just kind of go around, you
know, scattershot though. I don't think

1159
01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:12.600
I was able to beat him even
once, not on one level. Now,

1160
01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:15.920
you're really making me want to get
in there. I couldn't. I

1161
01:22:15.960 --> 01:22:18.439
said this on stream too. It's
not that I have to beat him all

1162
01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:21.680
the time. You just gotta beat
him once and then you screenshot it and

1163
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:25.960
be like, job, you're no
good. Job didn't job, You're no

1164
01:22:26.039 --> 01:22:30.800
good. You just do one.
You just gotta get one. I think

1165
01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:32.199
we had that for like thirty six
hours. Marry me and you with that

1166
01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:36.199
what was the hyper Demon game or
whatever. Yeah, yeah, it's like

1167
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:40.479
we had like with that that was
just one level, you know, that's

1168
01:22:40.520 --> 01:22:43.479
all there. Yeah, there's like
one little thing, and it is fun

1169
01:22:43.479 --> 01:22:45.800
to beat your friends. Like I
think this is a very important aspect of

1170
01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:49.640
this game is that there is a
score. I don't think I fully understand

1171
01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:53.399
the score system, but they try
and explain the score system to you.

1172
01:22:55.520 --> 01:23:00.119
I think it's very addictive to try
and perfect the system that it's teaching you

1173
01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:02.800
so that you can get a really
high score in some of these levels.

1174
01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:08.119
But again, like I said,
even even beating some of these levels is

1175
01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:11.479
tricky. So when you beat them, you'll be proud of yourself and be

1176
01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:14.319
like that's it. I'm done,
Like that's a that's an achievement, and

1177
01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:18.600
you know, in itself, just
to get them done. Then it sounds

1178
01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:21.840
I'm excited. I don't play that
soon. I'm glad that you guys are

1179
01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:27.039
into it. I really liked it. I think it's really neat all right

1180
01:23:27.159 --> 01:23:31.359
because when do emails or okay,
as usual, you can write into fire

1181
01:23:31.359 --> 01:23:35.319
skate Pass at gmail dot com questions, comments, concerns, et cetera.

1182
01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:40.039
Write in questions about video games or
anything else you might read them on the

1183
01:23:40.039 --> 01:23:45.720
show. Mary, do you want
to read this first one we have from

1184
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:48.479
listener Eric? Actually yeah, actually
no, not to do the thing.

1185
01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:51.720
This makes more sense with Dan because
of what he's been talking about. Oh

1186
01:23:51.760 --> 01:23:57.000
okay, uh last Fortnight, you
all discuss how music can provide a boost

1187
01:23:57.000 --> 01:24:00.600
when running. What are your favorite
workout songs and music? Eric? Oh,

1188
01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:03.720
I this is something I've actually been
let me get my Spotify. Uh

1189
01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:10.079
yeah, I uh, I'm finding
that the thing that gets me the most

1190
01:24:10.159 --> 01:24:13.359
kind of hyped up when I'm running
or working out is obviously it started with

1191
01:24:13.359 --> 01:24:15.039
like rocky music, you know,
like it was always that's the classic.

1192
01:24:15.079 --> 01:24:18.840
You know, it's the most generic, like or most what's the word I'm

1193
01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:23.039
looking for, you know, it's
the most obvious, like this is the

1194
01:24:23.079 --> 01:24:26.520
music that listening when you're working out, but that like has extended almost to

1195
01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:29.479
like I don't know what genre I
would call this, like rap of like

1196
01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:36.479
boxing, walkout music type stuff like
just aggressive confident. Uh yes, but

1197
01:24:38.079 --> 01:24:40.760
I remember like the fight night menu
we would have like you know, Victory

1198
01:24:40.840 --> 01:24:44.840
with with Biggie and Pup Daddy and
then like Creed. I watched Creed three

1199
01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:47.800
recently, and uh, Nipsey,
Nipsey Hustle that last time that I checked

1200
01:24:47.800 --> 01:24:50.479
song Diamond Dame comes out to,
and so I've gotten into Nipsey Hustle.

1201
01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:54.920
I'm listening to him a lot while
I'm running Meek Mill because Mick Mill was

1202
01:24:54.960 --> 01:24:59.720
in that the Creed thing. They
they layered Lord Nose over the Gift rock

1203
01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:03.119
music, but it's the rocky it's
a game soundtrack. But it's just that,

1204
01:25:03.199 --> 01:25:05.000
like this is what I listened to
as well. It's meek Mil,

1205
01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:10.520
it's Nipsy, It's it's also like
Kendrick It's yeah, yeah, yes,

1206
01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:12.439
I'm starting to do with all that, and I'm liking it a lot.

1207
01:25:12.479 --> 01:25:14.600
But it's the same way that like
back in the day, I would watch

1208
01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:17.119
ECW and you know, when I
was only listening to classic rock and stuff.

1209
01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:21.319
Now I'm hearing Pantera. Now I'm
hearing you know, like Metallica and

1210
01:25:21.359 --> 01:25:24.920
things like this, and like I'm
getting into like more recent at the time

1211
01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:28.239
stuff you know, Rage against the
Machine things like that. So yeah,

1212
01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:31.600
I think now I'm actually like getting
a like I haven't really listened to hip

1213
01:25:31.600 --> 01:25:34.399
hop much since the early two thousands, and so now it's just like,

1214
01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:38.319
wow, any suggestions. I was
talking to jan about this. Yeah,

1215
01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:40.760
it's like Meek mil Nipsey Hustle,
like you know, any just like really

1216
01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:44.680
dream confident, what's that? Do
you have? Dreamville anything? My dream

1217
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:46.479
for Anthem by Dreamville is a really
good song that I haven't No, no,

1218
01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:50.920
it's similar. It's on Creed three. Oh okay, I forget when

1219
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:54.840
it comes on in Creed three,
but it's in Creed three. Yeah,

1220
01:25:55.119 --> 01:25:57.359
even just like albums that I should
check out, and I can just kind

1221
01:25:57.359 --> 01:26:00.239
of cherry pick songs that I want
to put on my like exercise playlist things

1222
01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:01.199
like that, but like, yeah, I've also got like some days it's

1223
01:26:01.239 --> 01:26:04.680
like, okay, I just want
to listen to Megadeth and Alice in Chains

1224
01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:08.399
and like more like a metal playlist
or something like that. So and then

1225
01:26:08.399 --> 01:26:10.479
I've got like a big one where
just like let's just put it all together.

1226
01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:12.560
So uh yeah, it just kind
of depends on what a feeling that

1227
01:26:12.640 --> 01:26:15.720
day. Yeah, sound of my
Ceremony My Nipsy Hustle is probably a song

1228
01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:18.920
you have. Which one sounded my
Ceremony? I don't. I've just been

1229
01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:23.079
listening to a Victory Lap so far, which is like that sound my ceremony

1230
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:25.720
is really good. Okay, okay, cool, I'll check it out,

1231
01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:31.479
but really quick. I just because
it's like related my uh. I listened

1232
01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:36.239
to very similar music when I'm working
out, but like more specific. There's

1233
01:26:36.279 --> 01:26:41.800
a lot of like Meek Mill does
this, Future does it where it's like

1234
01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:47.920
rocky sound bites but oh set as
a bassline to the like a hip hop

1235
01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:51.600
song. It's really good. I
send me any of. A few weeks

1236
01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:56.319
ago, I said, like,
like was almost done my workout. Then

1237
01:26:56.359 --> 01:26:59.640
this came on and I recognized what
they were doing with the rocky bassline,

1238
01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:01.199
and I I was being a douche
and I said, like I did,

1239
01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:05.800
I did another sixteen sets. Okay, let me look at it and maybe

1240
01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:10.159
added yeah yeah, but yeah love
that. We should each add a song

1241
01:27:10.239 --> 01:27:14.159
from each other's and run to it
and see what it's like. We're just

1242
01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:17.000
gonna give each other a fake one
to no, I'm gonna give it one.

1243
01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:19.880
You know what's a really good hype
of Boogie in Your Butt by Eddie

1244
01:27:19.960 --> 01:27:25.920
Murphy. That's a good one.
I'm writing it down. The Alcot by

1245
01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:30.600
the National is really good for working
out too. Weird goodbyes by The National

1246
01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:34.239
featuring Bony Verar really good. Oh
they're so sad and slow. No,

1247
01:27:34.359 --> 01:27:40.880
they're sick for working out. You'll
be crying while you work out. I

1248
01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:58.399
was digging about She's Gonna Die the
yellow text he goes through YO tip tip

1249
01:27:58.479 --> 01:28:02.560
for anyone that has really changed my
music listening while I'm running. I got

1250
01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:05.560
the bone conduction headphones, and I'd
heard about those a lot when I was

1251
01:28:05.800 --> 01:28:09.840
starting a bike a lot, and
now that I'm running too, I went

1252
01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:12.239
ahead and purchase because then I can
use them for running in cycling. So

1253
01:28:12.279 --> 01:28:15.279
it's the thing where it goes around
your head, so they're not gonna come

1254
01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:17.000
out of your ears or anything.
But nothing goes in your ears. They

1255
01:28:17.039 --> 01:28:20.359
just go like over, and then
there's some little things like press like in

1256
01:28:20.399 --> 01:28:25.119
front of your ears, and it's
just like shooting sound into your skull,

1257
01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:27.439
like not for your ear drums,
and it's not good. So you can

1258
01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:29.840
hear it. It's a safety thing. So it's like if you're riding a

1259
01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:31.920
bike or you're running, you can
hear cars. You can hear things like

1260
01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:34.239
that, and they are not going
to come out of here, like you

1261
01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:36.600
can shake your head. You can
check blind spots things like that. Nothing's

1262
01:28:36.600 --> 01:28:42.159
fallen out. It has been fantastic
for running and biking. That's pretty cool.

1263
01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:45.560
Yeah, they're called a like shocks
pro. I think it's like shokz,

1264
01:28:45.960 --> 01:28:49.359
but game turn. I'd be interested. I don't care for my Apple

1265
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:53.920
iPod whatever is. I don't care
for them. I don't care for them

1266
01:28:53.920 --> 01:28:56.680
at all. I feel like they
do not hold a charge. I swear

1267
01:28:56.720 --> 01:28:59.119
to God, I charge them all
day and then I'll go on a run.

1268
01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:01.199
In like fifty minutes into the run, it'll be like we're running out

1269
01:29:01.199 --> 01:29:05.239
of juice. And it's like you
they're like two years old, and I

1270
01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:09.880
know apple products are meant to die
after a few years, but it's just,

1271
01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:12.840
you know, it was just like
a hundred bucks, like I would

1272
01:29:12.840 --> 01:29:15.680
have thought they would have lasted a
little longer. It doesn't sound right because

1273
01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:18.600
I don't I feel like I can
go on, like you know, several

1274
01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:21.960
long bike rides like hours and hours
and they're still going. But they charge

1275
01:29:21.960 --> 01:29:25.159
in the case. Are you putting
them in the case? They charged in

1276
01:29:25.199 --> 01:29:28.079
the case, but I think that
the case, like you know, it

1277
01:29:28.119 --> 01:29:30.199
takes a long time, and I
just feel like I just think they're old

1278
01:29:30.279 --> 01:29:33.039
and the battery is dying and I've
had enough, so I'd like to move

1279
01:29:33.079 --> 01:29:41.199
on from them. My suggestion is, I've been getting really into Uh this

1280
01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:45.279
is strictly workout. I don't listen
to this any other time unless I'm working

1281
01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:47.960
out. I do not listen to
this like in my free time. I

1282
01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:53.239
do not listen to this when I'm
working. It's just what I'm working out.

1283
01:29:53.479 --> 01:30:00.000
It's Galantis and it's a song specifically
called Peanut Butter Jelly, and it's

1284
01:30:00.239 --> 01:30:10.039
really good. And I Galantis is
a band. I don't know anything else

1285
01:30:10.119 --> 01:30:14.920
about them. I found them.
Uh. I was doing like one of

1286
01:30:14.920 --> 01:30:16.760
those class passes where you just go
to a random class, and I did

1287
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:23.399
a random what's it called not like
boudoir is not the right word. It's

1288
01:30:23.439 --> 01:30:27.840
like where it's like you're dancing,
but it's also like you're now we twerk.

1289
01:30:27.960 --> 01:30:30.359
Yeah, Like there's like there's like
sluttiness to the dance and you were

1290
01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:34.039
supposed to get your heart rate up. It's pretty fun. Anyway, we

1291
01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:39.479
did the class to Galantis Peanut Butter
Jelly, and now I'm like addicted to

1292
01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:42.119
this song and I really enjoy it. So I think it's really fun to

1293
01:30:42.119 --> 01:30:45.159
get your heart rate up. And
then recently, and this is a big

1294
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:50.760
twist, I've been getting really into
an album made by Michael Sarah, the

1295
01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:59.840
actor. He makes music and yes, and he made uh an album.

1296
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:01.199
See if I can find the name
of the album. I mean, he's

1297
01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:05.159
just a really interesting guy. It's
not workout music. I will be very

1298
01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:09.760
clear with you on that, but
it doesn't matter. Sarah and I just

1299
01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:14.000
want to go nuts. Yeah,
dude, it's it's a crazy like listen

1300
01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:17.640
to listen to Clay Pigeons. It's
just a really fun I don't even think

1301
01:31:17.640 --> 01:31:24.239
it's an album, but like he's
on Spotify. He's just a funny little

1302
01:31:24.239 --> 01:31:28.760
guy. And most of his songs
are like guitar and him singing casually about

1303
01:31:28.760 --> 01:31:32.960
wanting to move down south where everybody
says y'all. It's really calming and charming

1304
01:31:33.039 --> 01:31:35.800
and sweet. And I think he
just made them in a bedroom or something.

1305
01:31:36.880 --> 01:31:40.119
I love them there. They won't
get your heart rate up, but

1306
01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:43.600
they're they're sweet little tracks. I
think it's great. I had no idea

1307
01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:46.239
who's doing that. I know I
stumbled across that too. I listened to

1308
01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:55.399
Joel a lot. He's got some
good music that the guy from super Bad.

1309
01:31:55.800 --> 01:32:00.079
Okay, Wow, we're doing okay
models sure to sleep a chance to

1310
01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:03.600
dream? Uh? Okay, Well, thank you, Eric, appreciate it.

1311
01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:12.560
Uh married one to this one from
Ryan, Ryan, Dude, do

1312
01:32:12.600 --> 01:32:17.560
this one from Ryan? Please?
Hi, friends, longtime, first time,

1313
01:32:17.720 --> 01:32:27.039
et cetera, et cetera. What's
something ultraspecific video game or otherwise that

1314
01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:31.439
you feel like you are the best
in the world at or at least exceptionally

1315
01:32:31.520 --> 01:32:36.479
talented at. For me, I
think I have an uncanny knack for knowing

1316
01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:42.319
when a door or a hallway in
a game is going to trigger a cutscene

1317
01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:45.600
or a point of no return.
So I got out of my way to

1318
01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:47.760
explore the rest of the map available
to me. I visit all the shops

1319
01:32:47.760 --> 01:32:53.760
to check out all the buildings before
moving on. Especially in RPGs, there

1320
01:32:53.840 --> 01:32:58.239
was no like goodbye, It just
says Ryan. So thank you very much

1321
01:32:58.279 --> 01:33:02.880
for the question. Ryan. That's
a good one. Best in the world

1322
01:33:02.880 --> 01:33:08.479
at or at least exceptionally talented at
twenty third in the world A quackshot so,

1323
01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:13.479
and that's only going up every day. So what Mike just very deliberately

1324
01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:15.960
put his glasses on. No,
the glass has nothing to do with what

1325
01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:19.399
I want to say. I thought
he had a bit and we're all preparing

1326
01:33:19.439 --> 01:33:27.279
ourselves. We're bracing here it comes. I don't know, Mary, I

1327
01:33:27.319 --> 01:33:30.760
don't know. I'm not prepared.
I didn't read this in advance. I

1328
01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:35.159
assume somebody does. I I don't
know if I'm the best in the world

1329
01:33:35.319 --> 01:33:41.279
or exceptionally good at anything. I
will say I don't know how many people

1330
01:33:41.359 --> 01:33:45.479
in the world have beat down well. But that's pretty difficult. And I

1331
01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:48.000
was very proud of myself for completing
that game on a live stream under a

1332
01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:50.640
lot of pressure, and I'm very
proud of that moment. And I would

1333
01:33:50.680 --> 01:33:55.119
say that under pressure, I feel
like I can deliver still beating a game

1334
01:33:55.159 --> 01:33:57.640
without like you know, like a
lot of people can do it, but

1335
01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:00.079
if there's a lot of people watching
them, they'll crumble. Hm. I

1336
01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:04.880
feel like I could beat down well
on the stage at the Apollo. I

1337
01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:09.319
feel like even with a bunch of
people being like you suck, I could

1338
01:34:09.319 --> 01:34:11.960
be like, fuck you, I'll
do it, and I and I can,

1339
01:34:12.079 --> 01:34:15.399
and so I think I can.
I can overcome extreme stress or pressure

1340
01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:20.239
and still perform. I don't think
I'm like the best in the world,

1341
01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:26.680
but I'm definitely accept I think I
would call myself very talented at darts.

1342
01:34:27.239 --> 01:34:30.840
Playing darts, oh really, I
mean I'm not going to farewell and actual

1343
01:34:31.079 --> 01:34:34.840
like reel those like World Darts competitions
where they do insane shit, but like

1344
01:34:35.279 --> 01:34:40.840
the most most the average bar room, I'm definitely going to be one of

1345
01:34:40.840 --> 01:34:43.760
the more talented people until someone comes
up and wants to put money on it.

1346
01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:46.479
Then I'm like, I know they're
probably good, yeah, and soul

1347
01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:53.760
caliber. I'm up there darts.
I feel like I should know that about

1348
01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:56.560
you. I didn't know you were
good at darts. I know play,

1349
01:34:56.720 --> 01:35:00.079
but I didn't know you were good. I another more of a social thing,

1350
01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:06.600
not as much a quantifiable skill.
I continually amaze my wife and several

1351
01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:12.159
of our friends when I remember I'm
very good at remembering names and faces,

1352
01:35:12.199 --> 01:35:15.079
like I'll meet someone once and then
remember them forever. I don't know why

1353
01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:19.920
worst in the world of that.
I don't know why I can't I meet

1354
01:35:19.960 --> 01:35:23.800
someone and I learned their name,
and I just I couldn't forget it if

1355
01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:26.239
I wanted to. And I don't
need to like get to know you that

1356
01:35:26.279 --> 01:35:30.119
well. I just meet it and
meet you once and something about like I

1357
01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:33.680
think there's like a synesthesia aspect where
I like remember where I was and what

1358
01:35:33.760 --> 01:35:36.560
it smelled like and what I was
drinking at the time or eating at the

1359
01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:41.399
time. When I remember, someone
was like, Oh you're Wan or oh

1360
01:35:41.479 --> 01:35:45.199
you're Patrick. That's so weird how
brains work is Like I have that specifically

1361
01:35:45.199 --> 01:35:47.399
with Like, Okay, if I
was driving around and a song came on,

1362
01:35:47.760 --> 01:35:50.159
and then I hear that song again
two weeks later and where Wolves of

1363
01:35:50.159 --> 01:35:53.359
Blending comes on, It's like,
oh, I remember I was driving past

1364
01:35:53.800 --> 01:35:56.159
the Mall of America and this part
of the song was playing, and I'm

1365
01:35:56.159 --> 01:35:58.760
like, what the fuck do I
remember that? But then like names and

1366
01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:02.199
faces and stuff like that, I
just absolutely, I'm I have to know

1367
01:36:02.239 --> 01:36:05.119
someone pretty well to remember a name
in a face. It's it's we had

1368
01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:09.279
a we had a I still remember
their names. We had like an like

1369
01:36:09.359 --> 01:36:14.920
a not an argument, but we
were out several months ago and this like

1370
01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:20.239
married couple from Alabama who was visiting
New York had like said something about me

1371
01:36:20.279 --> 01:36:23.680
and Amanda. I forget what they
had said, but the point being I

1372
01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:26.239
remember their name is because on their
way back from the bathroom, I had

1373
01:36:26.279 --> 01:36:30.399
done like a aggressive, Hey,
how's it going like to you know,

1374
01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:31.960
call them out to let them know
I heard them, And then they actually

1375
01:36:32.039 --> 01:36:36.479
ended up being friendly. They just
told a poorly, a tasteless joke and

1376
01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:42.079
they I remember their names. It
was Lisa and Morgan, and then I

1377
01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:45.920
will not forget that anytime soon.
It's I don't know why that is what.

1378
01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:48.079
Of course, I can't pick up
on normal body language social cues,

1379
01:36:48.119 --> 01:36:53.560
but I can remember names and faces. I was like excited the other day

1380
01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:56.399
because I've met so many neighbors and
stuff since we moved here, and like,

1381
01:36:56.479 --> 01:36:58.720
I'm so bad at all their names, even if I met them.

1382
01:36:58.880 --> 01:37:00.520
And I met a couple that lives
near by and their names were Paul and

1383
01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:04.239
Nina, and I told him like, oh, Tecan, and they were

1384
01:37:04.279 --> 01:37:08.159
like, what's that? But to
me, I was like, yeah,

1385
01:37:08.159 --> 01:37:11.039
all right, tech and I can
remember this. Just shouted tech in at

1386
01:37:11.039 --> 01:37:14.960
them. I didn't shout teckn but
I definitely said Tecan. Let's go,

1387
01:37:15.079 --> 01:37:17.840
honey, this is a tech and
mag we're moving. We're gonna call the

1388
01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:24.960
local police. What a weird man
with our children's cigarette smelly Tekan prime man,

1389
01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:30.159
He's given our kids cigarettes and video
games constantly jogging around our house.

1390
01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:38.159
I'm trying to think of video game
wise, what is something I'm really fucking

1391
01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:43.399
good at in video games? In
person, I'm really good no matter how

1392
01:37:43.479 --> 01:37:45.720
much I drink or how tired I
am, washing my face and brushing my

1393
01:37:45.760 --> 01:37:48.520
teeth. I've heard you brag about
this before. I know this is something

1394
01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:50.800
to take a lot of pride in. This has been a long time thing

1395
01:37:51.920 --> 01:37:56.479
in the world. Yeah, no
matter how drunk I get, my teeth

1396
01:37:56.479 --> 01:38:01.399
are clean. I drunk, Mary
no to do it, God bless her.

1397
01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:08.840
I have to be up there in
terms of, like I'm not going

1398
01:38:08.920 --> 01:38:13.159
to say all across wrestling knowledge,
but if we want to talk North American

1399
01:38:13.239 --> 01:38:17.439
televised pro wrestling from nineteen ninety three
onward, I've got to be way up

1400
01:38:17.479 --> 01:38:21.000
there in terms of like history,
trivia and even like inside stuff, you

1401
01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:24.199
know, as far as say,
a wealth of knowledge of that stuff.

1402
01:38:26.840 --> 01:38:30.600
Yeah, there's probably other stuff that
I'm now there might not be. I

1403
01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:33.279
don't know. Those are the things
that I'm aware of though. Video games

1404
01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:38.279
wise, I'm trying to remember the
last time I got very good at a

1405
01:38:38.359 --> 01:38:44.079
video game that like other people noticed, But did you notice that the Sorry

1406
01:38:44.079 --> 01:38:48.600
I want to like, did you
notice that Ryan's specific example was not that

1407
01:38:48.640 --> 01:38:53.680
he's really good at a game,
but that he's really good at knowing when

1408
01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:56.560
there's a hallway that it's going to
be a cutscene. Yeah, it's not

1409
01:38:56.640 --> 01:38:59.680
that you have to be really good
at counter Strike. The idea here is

1410
01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:02.279
that you're no, I know,
sure at acknowledging something in a game,

1411
01:39:02.439 --> 01:39:05.520
and he does say he does start
with saying something ultra specific, So I

1412
01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:09.640
guess it's more like, what is
a weird little thing? I think we're

1413
01:39:09.720 --> 01:39:14.640
all way off here. I think
it should be something like like you know

1414
01:39:14.840 --> 01:39:18.279
when you're in water, knowing,
even if it doesn't give you a timer,

1415
01:39:18.479 --> 01:39:21.000
that you're going almost out of breath
in Sonic, right, And it's

1416
01:39:21.039 --> 01:39:27.439
just like I know the timing of
when Sonic will drowned. I'm very good

1417
01:39:27.479 --> 01:39:33.039
at knowing it. As an example, it's very clear with audio. If

1418
01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:36.039
you don't know Sonic's about to drown, you're an idiot, because it's like

1419
01:39:36.119 --> 01:39:39.640
dun dun dun dun dud dud dud
du du du du du da dun dun

1420
01:39:39.720 --> 01:39:43.960
dun dun dundad No, it gets
so clear. I'm really good at the

1421
01:39:44.039 --> 01:39:46.439
end of the classic Tony Hawk run
where it's like a two minute run where

1422
01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:49.640
I just need to I'm trying to
get every single point out of it.

1423
01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:54.880
I will just like stand still pogo
and new kickflip into another pogo and new

1424
01:39:54.920 --> 01:39:57.079
kickflip, and now I can eke
my way into a grind and just like

1425
01:39:57.399 --> 01:40:00.279
every little like post two minute thing
I can get out of it. When

1426
01:40:00.279 --> 01:40:06.680
I was playing a lot of Siege, I got specifically very good to the

1427
01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:11.119
point of like people in the match
would get annoyed of me and saying chat

1428
01:40:11.159 --> 01:40:15.479
like that's such bullshit. There's a
character named Maverick. He's got a His

1429
01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:19.199
gadget is basically this blowtorch that can
blow like melt holes in the metal fun.

1430
01:40:19.319 --> 01:40:25.199
Yeah, I got very good at
like knowing exactly where they had not

1431
01:40:25.520 --> 01:40:28.359
where they would not be looking to
shoot their feet a lot until they die.

1432
01:40:30.239 --> 01:40:35.319
Like I know I was good at
it because people got pissed. Yeah,

1433
01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:39.760
that was mine. That's mine.
Really good A chance time in Mario

1434
01:40:39.840 --> 01:40:44.760
party hmm, Yeah, I know
how to like because each one gets progressively

1435
01:40:44.800 --> 01:40:48.239
faster, So I know I want
to do me and then arrow to me

1436
01:40:48.680 --> 01:40:51.760
of a star or something and then
whoever the fucking lands on one. Great,

1437
01:40:51.840 --> 01:40:57.720
it's coming to me, you know, going through my Steam library to

1438
01:40:57.760 --> 01:41:02.000
see if there's any old gems that
are really worth talking about here. I

1439
01:41:02.039 --> 01:41:08.319
don't feel like I was particularly like
amazing or have like something really interesting to

1440
01:41:08.399 --> 01:41:15.039
say about Offspring Fling, you know, which I played in twenty thirteen last

1441
01:41:15.319 --> 01:41:21.199
Oh Jesus, it's crazy. These
are so old. I love looking through

1442
01:41:21.239 --> 01:41:28.920
these. Okay, keep that in
mind, keep browsing. I'll keep that

1443
01:41:28.960 --> 01:41:31.000
in mind. I don't know if
I had anything good, all right,

1444
01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:35.279
I got one from stupid. I'm
not talented. I don't know why he

1445
01:41:35.319 --> 01:41:38.479
said this said. I'm assuming Micha
will be the one who reads this.

1446
01:41:38.560 --> 01:41:42.560
So hey, Mike HBO. Max
listed the Rocky movies as ones that are

1447
01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:45.399
leaving Max soon. So I watched
all of them in a row, some

1448
01:41:45.880 --> 01:41:47.600
of the some of them again,
the later ones for the first time.

1449
01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:51.000
And after watching Rocky five just now, I wanted to know what's the worst

1450
01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:56.119
movie or game in a franchise that
you otherwise love. I mean, that

1451
01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:59.439
is the classic one, because it's
like, here's a ton of movies and

1452
01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:01.199
only one one of them is bad. You know, It's like I can't

1453
01:42:01.239 --> 01:42:08.159
say Terminator because like, Terminator is
two great movies and then it's several Godfather,

1454
01:42:08.279 --> 01:42:12.199
Alien, same thing, god No, I mean Godfather one and two

1455
01:42:12.199 --> 01:42:16.800
are great and three is bad.
Is that what you're just saying. No,

1456
01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:18.800
I was saying, like with Rocky, one of them is bad.

1457
01:42:18.880 --> 01:42:21.319
I was saying with Terminator, it's
like two good, but then there's like

1458
01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:25.600
a lot of bad ones, like
Godfathers. I think Godfather is a good

1459
01:42:25.600 --> 01:42:27.720
answer for this, and that one
and two are really good and just has

1460
01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:31.840
the one outlier bad one. You
know, Yeah, Alien has a bunch

1461
01:42:31.880 --> 01:42:38.159
of bad ones part of their I'm
talking about the number of Aliens. Oh

1462
01:42:38.199 --> 01:42:40.840
sure, sure, but yeah,
I mean I'm I'm the weird of who

1463
01:42:40.920 --> 01:42:46.800
likes Covenant. Oh I got one. Well, no, this doesn't count.

1464
01:42:46.920 --> 01:42:49.520
I was gonna say Jurassic Park because
the first one is so good and

1465
01:42:49.560 --> 01:43:01.800
all the other ones are fucking god
dog shit. I can't and they kept

1466
01:43:01.800 --> 01:43:14.279
making billions of dollars though, m
Yeah, I want to say, but

1467
01:43:14.279 --> 01:43:16.520
no one counts that. No.
I was gonna say, like Devil May

1468
01:43:16.600 --> 01:43:20.960
Cry three, is it? No? Three is the best one? Which

1469
01:43:20.960 --> 01:43:25.720
one's that two bad one? But
every other Devil may Cry is good.

1470
01:43:25.800 --> 01:43:30.840
I'd say my joke answer was about
to say was Zelda Links Awakening. But

1471
01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:35.159
my real answer for that series is
a Spirit Trax okay, terrible. It's

1472
01:43:35.159 --> 01:43:42.680
not like a Rocky five level.
It's just it's that Zelda good. No,

1473
01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:45.039
I like Panamerica. Spirit Traxx is
h and Spirit Tracts is better than

1474
01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:50.880
Rocky five. Mario doesn't really have
any stinkers like in the mainline series.

1475
01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:01.680
Yeah, it's it's it's like the
we don't talk about X child meme that

1476
01:44:02.560 --> 01:44:08.239
there's a better example than Rocky five. That is just like there's eight movies.

1477
01:44:08.840 --> 01:44:11.319
No, there's nine movies now and
only one of them is bad.

1478
01:44:11.359 --> 01:44:14.960
The rest are like good to best. Ever I'm trying to think of like

1479
01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:20.920
a TV show when there was one
very bad season. Oh, is it

1480
01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:27.199
just drop off? You know?
Yeah, it's usually like just a downhill.

1481
01:44:27.680 --> 01:44:30.079
Yeah, like Dexter or whatever,
you just drops off for lost literally

1482
01:44:30.119 --> 01:44:34.000
like name them. Yeah, the
Office like they just like have this,

1483
01:44:34.159 --> 01:44:38.600
like even the Wire people didn't.
The last season is the worst one.

1484
01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:45.720
Yeah, I yeah, I would
say this is very much bending the rules.

1485
01:44:45.720 --> 01:44:53.600
But I guess Sopranos season three,
I like the season a lot.

1486
01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:57.119
However, it has the Columbus Day
episode, which is probably the worst episode

1487
01:44:57.119 --> 01:45:01.279
of the Sopranos ever. Oh really
yeah, oh, while we're on the

1488
01:45:01.439 --> 01:45:10.600
HBO train, True Detective had two
weird ones, and then I actually really

1489
01:45:10.680 --> 01:45:15.079
liked the last season. We talked
about this. Yeah, I'm gonna act

1490
01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:17.439
like the first one. I only
liked the first season. I've seen them

1491
01:45:17.479 --> 01:45:23.880
all. You're wrong. The last
season of True Detective is so good and

1492
01:45:23.960 --> 01:45:28.399
I've actually I've thought about it.
I'm like sad on it. I've slept

1493
01:45:28.439 --> 01:45:32.399
on it. I've processed it.
It's really good and I were all in

1494
01:45:32.720 --> 01:45:36.159
until that ending, and then it's
like, where the fuck did that come

1495
01:45:36.199 --> 01:45:40.520
from? That nothing that happened before
it led to this Like this, it

1496
01:45:40.560 --> 01:45:45.920
was sprinkled in the whole time.
I'm telling you, it was sprinkled in

1497
01:45:45.960 --> 01:45:49.279
the whole time. It's really good. That is a one season show.

1498
01:45:50.359 --> 01:45:59.039
Nope, it was season four for
Soprano Sorry apologies. Thinking about the game

1499
01:45:59.039 --> 01:46:05.359
franchise, Yeah, like it definitely
cried two is definitely the one resident evil

1500
01:46:05.560 --> 01:46:11.800
did that really have? Like like
the number six are six? I mean,

1501
01:46:11.840 --> 01:46:14.079
like, look, there were ones
that didn't like Aide super well,

1502
01:46:14.119 --> 01:46:15.760
and things like that. But like
in terms of the number, if we're

1503
01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:19.880
just talking one through or eight or
yeah, I think that's valid. Six

1504
01:46:20.159 --> 01:46:25.039
ships the bed like five issues.
But you're like, oh, there's some

1505
01:46:25.199 --> 01:46:28.560
volume now. But like, I
enjoyed it. It came out and it's

1506
01:46:28.560 --> 01:46:31.439
a really good COPI is a bad
game. But yeah, yeah, I

1507
01:46:31.479 --> 01:46:36.319
agree, Yes, six six was
bad when it came out. Dan is

1508
01:46:36.439 --> 01:46:43.399
right specifically about resident Evil. That
is the correct answer. But now looking

1509
01:46:43.439 --> 01:46:46.119
back, there are several stinkers in
the middle of those numbered or five and

1510
01:46:46.159 --> 01:46:48.960
six. I both not all of
them aged well, But I don't think

1511
01:46:48.960 --> 01:46:55.239
it's super fair to be like I
just c I'm just saying you clearly didn't

1512
01:46:55.279 --> 01:47:03.680
listen. I listened to you all
the time. You're always talking about the

1513
01:47:03.800 --> 01:47:10.439
debatched Prince of Damnation. Yeah,
he's a he's a warrior, chaos legendary

1514
01:47:10.479 --> 01:47:15.199
lord, a follower of Sigmar until
he betrayed his lords. Forget when you

1515
01:47:15.319 --> 01:47:24.159
told me about Swaanish who led the
extatination. That's just the leech lord.

1516
01:47:25.319 --> 01:47:40.640
I remember him. I remember him
and the Kundits speaking dactyls. That's freaking

1517
01:47:42.359 --> 01:47:45.600
a warrior queen. Oh wait,
actually, okay, so total war Warhammer

1518
01:47:45.640 --> 01:47:49.319
three players will get this, depending
how Thrones it Decay turns out. I

1519
01:47:49.319 --> 01:47:56.239
would actually call Shadows of Change the
rocky five of Warhammer three DLC. Wow,

1520
01:47:56.840 --> 01:48:01.640
that's very spicy for Warhammer people who
know like me. Yeah, right,

1521
01:48:01.760 --> 01:48:05.600
that's very that's a very controversial statement. And I talked a lot about

1522
01:48:05.600 --> 01:48:08.960
Shadows of Change when it first came
out. God, I'm in the minority

1523
01:48:08.960 --> 01:48:13.800
here. I don't know anything about
this. Just not the most popular of

1524
01:48:13.840 --> 01:48:20.920
the Warhammer series. Dan'l. Yeah, I should look this up. Yeah

1525
01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:28.359
to war Pharaoh. So when I'm
stuck in yellow Taxi goes verbal war what

1526
01:48:28.479 --> 01:48:36.399
about? I believe that the coins
are are parents. They're very symbolic in

1527
01:48:36.399 --> 01:48:44.520
in this essay I will discuss now. I'm just curious about what else might

1528
01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:50.479
come up if I google. Of
course the fucking Gamer has an entry ten

1529
01:48:50.520 --> 01:48:56.319
game series with the only one bad
game the Gamer Oh my god. And

1530
01:48:56.359 --> 01:49:00.960
of course Devile make cries there Fallout
seventy six that hasn't aged as well.

1531
01:49:00.119 --> 01:49:09.279
Also, I think there was one
resident on his listve Dino Crisis three.

1532
01:49:09.479 --> 01:49:13.760
I wouldn't know that Gears of War
judgment that game's fine. Yeah, that

1533
01:49:13.840 --> 01:49:16.680
was like a side sort thing.
And also I think fine, it was

1534
01:49:16.840 --> 01:49:21.319
fine. It doesn't have any like
serious stinkers do. And they also weren't

1535
01:49:21.319 --> 01:49:25.399
like building judgment up to be like
the next big one, you know it's

1536
01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:31.880
the best God Bless them Doom three
mm hmm. I feel like people kind

1537
01:49:31.880 --> 01:49:39.720
of came around on that Devil Dead
three. Yeah, I agree with that.

1538
01:49:39.800 --> 01:49:42.880
I like that, I think it. I think the problem was is

1539
01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:51.319
that it was the third installment and
everybody was so excited about like the complete

1540
01:49:51.359 --> 01:49:55.039
that. But I thought it was
fine. I didn't think it was like

1541
01:49:55.079 --> 01:50:00.039
a total stinker Metroid Prime Federation Force. I mean, now that I I

1542
01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:01.960
think about him, I was gonna
say, other m actually comes to mind.

1543
01:50:02.159 --> 01:50:06.159
Uh, Final Fantasy one thirteen.
There's a few bad Final fantasies.

1544
01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:14.479
Oh, Final Fantasy is like a
total total space we didn't touch in this

1545
01:50:14.640 --> 01:50:18.359
of bad games in a tremendous series
pack. Final Fantasy is such a weird

1546
01:50:18.399 --> 01:50:21.680
one to me because I feel like
everyone goes crazy every time there's a new

1547
01:50:21.760 --> 01:50:26.159
number one coming out. But like, I can't remember the last time somebody

1548
01:50:26.239 --> 01:50:28.720
was like over the moon about one, Like people like twelve a lot,

1549
01:50:28.920 --> 01:50:30.800
Like when was a lot, but
that was fucking twenty years ago. Like,

1550
01:50:31.279 --> 01:50:34.439
I'm surprised, Like people get freaked
out over every trailer for Final Fantasy,

1551
01:50:34.439 --> 01:50:36.880
and then like sixteen comes out or
fifteen comes out, and just no

1552
01:50:36.920 --> 01:50:41.119
one really talks about it that after
it comes out, Like is it are

1553
01:50:41.119 --> 01:50:45.199
they considered good? Because I don't
hear any enthusiasm for these and Rebirth,

1554
01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:46.359
Yes, Rebirth, I know there's
a lot of enthusiasm for it. But

1555
01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:51.880
outside of that, I yeah,
I don't. I don't remember the last

1556
01:50:51.920 --> 01:50:54.880
ten was ten? The last one? Everyone's like, fuck, yeah,

1557
01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:59.359
Final Fantasy. I don't even remember
that. I came on another one Hitman

1558
01:50:59.439 --> 01:51:02.159
Absolution that is that's a bad one? Ye, yep, that's that's a

1559
01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:05.840
good answer for that. Yeah,
A three. I don't know. That's

1560
01:51:05.840 --> 01:51:12.680
just the first one I played.
It's a sim City, Yes, the

1561
01:51:12.720 --> 01:51:15.399
remake, the twenty thirteen one.
Yeah, wow, that's so specific.

1562
01:51:16.119 --> 01:51:19.560
Yeah. Silent Hill Book of Memories, Mary, there's a lot of bad

1563
01:51:19.560 --> 01:51:29.520
Silent Hills. I thought I've played
every Silent Hill. There are a couple

1564
01:51:29.560 --> 01:51:34.479
of weirdos in the Silent Hill series, the wee one Homecoming. I So

1565
01:51:34.520 --> 01:51:38.960
the thing is is like even the
ones where are like this isn't very popular,

1566
01:51:39.199 --> 01:51:44.119
Like I liked Homecoming, but I
played it without all that stress with

1567
01:51:44.159 --> 01:51:47.279
a friend who enjoyed the series.
And so when you do it under those

1568
01:51:47.319 --> 01:51:51.159
con that's kind of like when you
play RESI five, right, Like when

1569
01:51:51.159 --> 01:51:54.680
you play RESI five under the right
context, Like if you play it with

1570
01:51:54.720 --> 01:51:58.199
your sister, like somebody who is
like enjoying it, it ain't bad,

1571
01:51:58.359 --> 01:52:01.159
Like I played Homecoming with the right
part, and so I enjoyed that experience,

1572
01:52:01.479 --> 01:52:08.479
whereas like some of these are just
like they can't be saved. Yeah,

1573
01:52:08.560 --> 01:52:12.039
all right, Well, if anybody
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1574
01:52:12.119 --> 01:52:18.479
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01:54:05.079 --> 01:54:12.680
soon for our delightful summer wardrobes.
Get to that spring cleaning. Get rid

1602
01:54:12.720 --> 01:54:19.079
of all those old dingy shirts and
socks and underwear you disgust me, get

1603
01:54:19.439 --> 01:54:24.840
get rid of it. Make room
in your closet, Bucko, I'll throw

1604
01:54:24.960 --> 01:54:28.760
your clothing, throw away everything.
You better be naked the next time you

1605
01:54:28.760 --> 01:54:34.039
listen to this podcast. Christ what
are how many people do oh but in

1606
01:54:34.079 --> 01:54:40.560
the shower right probably all the time? Or driving naked? Driving you would

1607
01:54:40.560 --> 01:54:44.199
close it's a thrill. Jeez,
it's it's a Minnesota law if you ever

1608
01:54:44.279 --> 01:54:51.279
go ninety miles an hour on the
freeway with nothing on, it's fucking exhilarating.

1609
01:54:51.399 --> 01:54:55.560
Dan, what do you have going? I got a lot going on.

1610
01:54:55.600 --> 01:55:00.600
A giant bomb, Doc Corver Sneeze. I was trying to fight through

1611
01:55:00.600 --> 01:55:04.840
that, trying to wait through it, Giant Bob, we have a lot

1612
01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:09.880
of stuff going up. Tailgating video
from Philadelphia was very fun. I went

1613
01:55:09.920 --> 01:55:14.039
to the Eagles Stadium before WrestleMania and
met a bunch of characters at the tailgate

1614
01:55:14.079 --> 01:55:16.640
for like six hours. So look
up Giant Bomb tailgating WrestleMania. There.

1615
01:55:16.720 --> 01:55:21.119
We'll have another WrestleMania video going up
soon where I interviewed Jade Cargill and aj

1616
01:55:21.239 --> 01:55:24.039
Styles, got a fight in front
of me, a whole bunch of stuff

1617
01:55:24.079 --> 01:55:28.520
going on there, and then well
I usually plug fire Escape at this point,

1618
01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:30.000
but that's what you're listening to right
now, so I'll say go check

1619
01:55:30.039 --> 01:55:34.439
out. Ben Hansen on mid Max
did a Hot Ones interview. I guess

1620
01:55:34.439 --> 01:55:38.239
it was like a dual thing where
we both went through the actual Hot Ones

1621
01:55:38.760 --> 01:55:43.520
sauces and wings and interviewed each other
back and forth as we ate all of

1622
01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:45.279
the ten sauces. And that was
a very fun thing to do, so

1623
01:55:46.119 --> 01:55:50.640
too derivative for my taste. I
think you've never seen hot Ones. He

1624
01:55:50.760 --> 01:55:59.600
just yeah, he's got the exact
same sauces and had the same Yeah to

1625
01:55:59.640 --> 01:56:01.239
watch that. How do you use
one? Can you do? They have

1626
01:56:01.319 --> 01:56:03.840
like a store where you can find
all their all the ones that you can

1627
01:56:03.880 --> 01:56:06.359
just find like this is the season
twenty one store, and here's the ten

1628
01:56:06.399 --> 01:56:11.039
sauces and like it was interesting after
seeing like the bomb a million times on

1629
01:56:11.039 --> 01:56:13.119
that show, it'd be like eating
the bomb and be like, oh this

1630
01:56:13.199 --> 01:56:15.359
kind of sucks and it's very hot. You know. Were the bad ones

1631
01:56:15.399 --> 01:56:18.680
as bad as some people let on
in the show, No, because I've

1632
01:56:18.720 --> 01:56:20.880
done those, like you know,
one chip challenges and stuff like that,

1633
01:56:20.960 --> 01:56:26.640
and like those are like crazy,
super duper hot. This got very hot

1634
01:56:26.680 --> 01:56:30.159
by the end, like that last
ab one is is definitely very hot,

1635
01:56:30.199 --> 01:56:33.479
and the bomb is nothing to sneeze
at. But yeah, it's it's I've

1636
01:56:33.479 --> 01:56:36.119
done worse. I mean I did
spend a good amount of time on the

1637
01:56:36.159 --> 01:56:40.079
toilet the next day, so it's
not like it's nothing. So yeah,

1638
01:56:40.159 --> 01:56:44.520
nice Mari. What do you have
going on? Yeah, just twitch ice

1639
01:56:44.520 --> 01:56:48.079
stream on Mondays and uh Saint Jude. I'm excited to visit so that'll be

1640
01:56:48.319 --> 01:56:51.960
a really nice experience. I'll tell
you guys about it next time. Nice.

1641
01:56:53.640 --> 01:56:58.199
All right, what about you anybody
else? Oh, Gizmo, No,

1642
01:56:58.479 --> 01:57:02.079
you're good. Gizmo is sleep here. I'm here. The day job

1643
01:57:02.199 --> 01:57:06.159
is not not a forward facing thing
anymore, which is very nice for me

1644
01:57:06.199 --> 01:57:11.880
personally. The games you're playing,
oh yeah, play I played metal your

1645
01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:16.600
Solid six. Oh yeah, don't
tell you. I want to just spoil

1646
01:57:16.640 --> 01:57:19.279
everything for you. Are you're working
with the Day on that? Oh yeah?

1647
01:57:19.439 --> 01:57:23.880
Could you signed me. We're drinking
Prime, we're hanging out Helen.

1648
01:57:23.920 --> 01:57:27.399
Helen was there, mm hmm yeah, her, her step son's doing the

1649
01:57:27.439 --> 01:57:30.279
music again. She's in it.
It's got sick. I can't wait.

1650
01:57:30.439 --> 01:57:34.800
But no, I'm just I'm here
in fire Escape easy. Yeah. Anyway,

1651
01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:39.039
that was episode eighty nine. Thanks
for joining everybody. We had a

1652
01:57:39.039 --> 01:57:44.359
great time. We'll see you in
two weeks for episode ninety. No wait,

1653
01:57:44.560 --> 01:57:48.640
it's not episode seventy nine. We'll
see you next week for episode two

1654
01:57:48.640 --> 01:58:01.439
weeks from now for episode eighty Bye
Bye Bye Yellow Cab Go Room Power Story