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afternoon, everybody, welcome to I on

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the Ball here a Fox Sports fourteen
fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Jagonzos.

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Got our guy Jackson and with us
today. We have a good show

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today. A lot of stuff going
on in the world. Yes, athletics.

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How about them Nuggets protecting home court
like they're supposed to be supposed to.

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Yeah, I don't, no big
deal to Jason. We got this

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right, No worries, no worries. It's okay. You can talk all

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you want. I like the text
we got today though, Oh you didn't

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see that I sent it to you, didn't. We gotta We got a

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text from listener Bill said he was
having breakfast today at at at at an

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East Side location. Huh, and
some people at the next table, we're

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wondering if the Lakers lost because I
picked them. Thanks for listening, But

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yes, I wonder if that Ko
d J. Gonzalez has the Lakers.

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You ever heard that conversation. That's
so funny. That's so funny. But

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hey, that shows that people are
listening, does you know, and and

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be paying attention to your stuff.
Exactly. I tell you, man,

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if he zigs, you zag,
baby, he zig zag. I do

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think the Lakers will in tomorrow?
Yeah? Um, Boston tonight and tomorrow

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you get the Lakers. Yeah for
yeah, they can go on to after

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home and there's a better team,
you think. But Miami. Yeah,

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yeah, we all know that paper
doesn't do nothing but wipe. Yeah,

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there's that. Okay, well that's
that's fine. We'll talk about that later

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in other situations. We have a
good show today. We have at three

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fifteen Reggie Gary, another the one
of the Father's Day Council Tucson Fathers of

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the Year, like Dave Hkey,
frequent guest helps us out. I think

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he's been a guest host with you. Yeah. Um, always always available

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to us to talk Arizona basketball and
other stuff. But you know, he's

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been honored as being a great dad, So we want to talk to him

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about what that means to him.
And uh, you know why he thinks

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he got that a word? Yeah, you know, okay, people,

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but you know, look, I
think I'm a pretty good dad. Didn't

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you think you're a pretty good dad. Yeah, that's my kids. But

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yeah, really you kids say,
have our opinions. I think my kids

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would say, yeah you do TikTok
thingis yeah exactly. But you know,

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but you don't sometimes you don't know. No, you don't know. Of

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course you don't know. You think
you are and you're not, or you

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or you think you're not. You
are right and you do what you can.

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Yeah, but uh yeah, looks
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I mean, I lay, I've
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looking grumpy. No, just on
the court. Yeah, he gets on

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the court and he's like you want
to tear your neck off. But you

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know, you see him around,
you see him at McHale, you see

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him at a game or whatever.
He's always got to smile on his face.

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Yeah, nice job over there.
So you know Tiki, Heky talked

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about him yesterday. Um I did
you see my note? Did you see

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note on my Facebook about Tiki yesterday? I don't know if he listened to

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the show, but uh heard hekey, I don't know what he said.

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This says always with the corporate line, always just you know, giving the

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corporate speech from Yester's conversation, that's
sort of his job. Yeah, I

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mean, you know, I mean
you you kind of you know, us

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as as reporters try to break it
down. But look, you know,

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when you're in a position like that, you know, you you you you're

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you're prepared for you have answers prepared
for just about anything, and and you

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use those and you know, some
of the stuff he said we've heard before,

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um, you know, in other
in other circumstances. But that's that's

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what it is. I mean,
what what what did you he said?

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What what we thought he was gonna
say? Kind of what we wanted him

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to say. You know, we
get we tagged him with that last question

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about the Dolores situation, but you
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know, we asked it in a
way that we would get some sort of

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an answer, because if we asked
the exact the exact question we wanted to

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ask, we weren't gonna get an
answer. Right here, does he ever

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say anything newsworthy? No, he
is mister corporate straight from Fortune five PR

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department. Oh I'm not try I
agree with that. I mean, Dave,

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you know, Dave like most people
in his position when they when when

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they're doing an interview, they're kind
of on right right there. They're on,

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they're representing, they're trying to be
a professional. Uh and they're and

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they're trying to make sure that they
put the best possible face on whatever it

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is they're talking about. Well,
um, I think you said who said

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this yesterday? Say two days ago? And and someone else commented, oh,

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so you're saying when do you leave? Or I can't remember what the

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what the guy read into it?
Yeah, oh yeah, I can't remember.

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It was your yeah, yeah,
yeah, see it was it.

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He could it said it was he
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a quote I think that I think
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Um interview where Hekey said that the
last part of his statement was that whatever

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happens Arizona will land in a great
spot. And somebody said, oh,

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you're leaving for the big club you
listen to and knowing that you got to

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be careful Steve, and he said
that he says, I gotta watch what

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I say because you know it's today, it might be this way, tomorrow

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might be different again. As as
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of a pretty large company here or
Tucson. You know, you prepare those

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guys to be ready for stuff like
this, and you want them to you

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want them to answer the questions in
the way that you've prepared them. And

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when they go off the rails is
when bad things happen. Yeah, and

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it just becomes more of a story
when you either misspeak. What did he

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want him to say yesterday that he
didn't say? Yeah? Well, you

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know it's funny because Bill, who
you know, a good friend of years

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and in a new friend of mine. Uh, you said you can talk

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about all this stuff, And I
said, yeah, but how important is

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it? It's very important. We've
been waiting nine months for this baby to

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happen. Je Willer has been on
top of it and he's still waiting.

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Right whether it happens tomorrow or in
August or June or June, we've been

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waiting. I mean, how important? My life has been pretty fine without

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knowing. Never mine. Mine you
have is juice. I'm stressed. Oh

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god, I know you're joking,
but you know you're living life. You're

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finance. Yeah, and lets me
know we know and move on. Hey,

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Look, you know, I got
a grand kid that I've I'm dealing

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with here and there. That's way
more important than anything, right, exactly

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exactly the grand scheme of things.
Whether they're in the Big twelve in the

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back twelve in the back, then
guess what tomorrow the sun road. And

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I think I've said, I think
I've said more than once. If the

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worst case scenario is that there is
that they're in the Big twelve and they're

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in an incredible basketball conference, and
yeah, the road drifts for football will

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be crap um. Hey, if
that's the worst case scenario, I'm fine

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with it, right, I mean, you know, would I rather go

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to San Diego State and Stanford and
Cal, you know, and Eugene over

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Lubbock and in Waco and Lawrence and
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Sure. But you know, if
you're in the Big twelve, you're still

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in a really good football conference,
you're in a great basketball conference. If

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that's the worst that we get,
then Arizona is fine. Yeah, And

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I think that's kind of what Jim
and Jim, It's kind of what Dave

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was saying. Yeah, basically,
I think he was basically saying that look,

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we want to be in the Pac
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Pack twelve together, but we know
we're gonna land somewhere that we're gonna that's

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gonna be good for Arizona, right
right. Even I asked the Willner of

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that the stories of the stories that
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I was a little bit surprised because, Okay, although it is important,

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and he gave me the magnet dude
of it. He's done some pretty

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good stories. Yeah, nobody knows
more about this than John who's not on

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the inside. Yeah, but my
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He says, one through ten,
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I was a bit surprised by that
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he's gonna take his one through ten. It's what he's done other big stories.

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Yeah, but this is historic,
Steve. I mean, this is

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what I get that this is going
to start to set the landscape for college

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football until we die. It'll feel
one and two stories in the life of

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a reporter. Because he's done other
big things, you know, you know

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what I'm saying. The magnitude of
it, and I get it. He's

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he's on top of this, and
that's great, great that he's doing this

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because um, we don't want to
do it. Very few people are.

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And he pays close attention to it. He's got he's got the details,

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he's got the sources and and you
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we rely on here for that information. You know, you know we

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can put it on our show because
we know that it's stuff we get from

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him. You know, there's a
lot of guys out there who are not

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right. Well, and that's what
I said to him. I mean,

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every you read other things and how
come this is right? Not right?

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Or you heard this and they heard
this, and it's you never know,

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you never know who to believe.
So okay, uh and then in the

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second hour, we're gonna have our
trusty guy, uh, mister Fish.

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You think Jake remembers he doesn't remember
him, but he knows that Jim Brown

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is. Oh yeah, I'm sure
he does. You know who Jim Brown

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is? Yeah? A little bit, Okay, yeah, Yeah, we'll

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talk to him. I don't think
we've talked to him about Dolora. Have

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you? Have you had him on? Yes, when that was gone,

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when you were gone? What did
he say you didn't want to talk about

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Okay, Well he hadn't. He
hadn't really boned up on it. Okay,

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so we talked about it, and
I can't, I can't. You

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were here, weren't you. I
don't think so. I can't even remember.

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Friday had to be a Friday.
So it was just kind of you

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know, stuff happens, kind of
thing, you know, and and if

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it's you know that he I think
he was pretty confident that you have a

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handled it the best way you could
hand I think that's the answer, the

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best way that you could have handled
it, no one what you know or

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what you didn't know or whatever.
Yeah. Okay, so yeah, we

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we did talk about well, bring
it up to him all break. I'm

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here with you, Jason. So
you you just got a new job.

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I did, Well, what is
that job? I am now the assistant

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sports editor for the day lock Out. Guess what you'll have all next semester

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this story to write about, right
exactly. Yeah, it's good for you,

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man. Yeah, so you know
this is this is kind of the

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way of the world. Yeah,
it's like Jason, um, Jason,

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Jason just spe was talking about.
This is not what he signed up for,

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right, but it's part of it, right. Unfortunately, you can't

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always go to games and have free
food. Yeah, exactly. He was

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really upset when this story broke.
I saw him. I told you I

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saw him at the Sugar Scalls game
the next day and he was still mad.

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You know, yeah, because it
takes a lot of your time to

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check into things and and takes away
from the stuff you really like to do.

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And it's like, Okay, I
love driving the car. Okay,

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now go the oil gas, change, the tire rotate, the tire wash.

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Well the one told me about that. I'm just gonna sit on this

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car and the parking lot and look
good at it. Exactly exactly. But

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yeah, so yeah, Jacob beyond
well, you know, I'll laughing about

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Jim Brown some of this other stuff
going on. Yeah, um, you

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know, uh you know there's been
some basketball recruits. Yeah, tomorrow there's

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supposed to be one. I already
knew its kind of broke. Uh.

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You know how the Facebook Internet,
what they say journalists are. One guy

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said that the Sundiego kid is already
going to commit to Arizona. You know

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why because they had those crystal balls, those crystal balls. Everyone knows until

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they don't know. It's like it's
like the creating kid always coming. He's

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coming. Oh what happened? Yeah, Tommy screwed it up. Well,

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he was already through the building.
It wait, be patiently. Well remember

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Rick Bettino about a house and yeah, yeah, yeah, it wasn't yet

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the recond market. Yeah, it
was at the Ringcon Market having lunch with

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somebody too. You know. You
know what we're talking about. It that

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no, no, it's all this
bs about Jerald. And that's another thing

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about journalists. It's just don't don't
worry about being first. You gotta be

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right. Yeah, I've learned that. So yeah, yeah, okay,

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we got a little little time here. Remember to call us in the second

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half of this uh show. For
the first hour and the second half of

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the show, we have a geary
and then we have the free time to

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get calls. Um Arizona baseball talk
the crap that's here, right, that's

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the postponed the from last night.
Yeah, postpone. They got double headed

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today. So they played this game
at one o'clock. If they how many

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do they have to win to get
it? I don't know. Like then

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they got to win on well,
they can't take any chance. Part of

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it is how much what's going on
with Cal in Washington State? Who both

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I think I've already lost one,
so they just got they were They went

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into the weekend tied with Cal but
owning the tiebreaker. Washington State lost its

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first game to to to Stanford.
The assumption is what, Washington State's gonna

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Also now on the phone, we have

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Reggie Geary Farmer. You'll be basketball
star and father of the Year one of

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them. How are you, Reggie, I'm doing good. Steven coming good.

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Good to hear your voice. Yeah, do reed to have you on

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the show talk about your nice little
uh nice big award here along with some

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great people that you'd be up there
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this this is father father of the
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You know, surprised me with with
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by it. Obviously, all fathers
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and for some you know, for
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community to recognize that in you,
it's pretty special. So Reggie, when

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you the career that you have,
it's I mean, it's not it's hard

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to be a great dad when you're
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many things going on, and then
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We asked, uh Dave Hiki this
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and then being a dad as well? I mean, how do you pull

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that off? Yeah? I mean
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UM, you know, for for
me and I think I think Dave probably

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mentioned it. I know the other
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problem. I think we all say
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And I'm blessed just like Davis Um
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and you know, uh, I
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teamwork. It's not just one person
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you know before I came to the
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the last four years in my current
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was twenty three years in professional sports, uh nine as a player, in

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fourteen as a coach. And there's
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and a lot of time away from
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have to have a wife, and
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of heavy the thing. And then
when you're around UM and when you're not

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at work and you're at home,
it's really important to be present and to

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find out what's going on in your
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you can get busy at times,
you can kind of forget to really check

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in or do check in. Maybe
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try to work as hard as I
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know you know, like all fathers, I want the best, um and

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I and I try to give the
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mistakes in doing so. But end
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know, UM, whether I'm right
along, it all comes from a place

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of love. Right, A lot
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can kind of wrote this a little, but it may be the toughest job

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you've ever had or will ever have. Oh, without question, without question,

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UM, you know you just you
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you want it so much for your
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for them to be happy and healthy
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life and you try to guide in
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really you know how how much is
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guiding them. You don't want to
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or now once they leave the nets
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how to really to um out and
live life or except some of the mice

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challenges. Um, you don't want
them to struggle too much. So that

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balancing line for all of us,
it's so so difficult, and you just

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have to pray you're doing the right
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being a good dad, you mentioned
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But you know there's more. I
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you know, we run our kids
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stuff, we give them advice.
What do you think you do best?

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I mean, even though I'm their
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like to be open minded. Um, you know, I think I know

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it's best for them. But I've
realized over the years, as they've got

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older that these are individuals. That
my two sons, Quincy and Westley,

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they're two individual people, and they
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own and and how that plays out
in their mind. And so I have

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to make sure overbearing. Um,
you know, I was kind. I

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laughed. My family laughs with me
because I kind of treat my team.

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I treat my family as almost like
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was coaching, and I realized even
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most success when when I gave my
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an ownership in the process, that
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was me also listening, and so
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the years. Oh well, that's
a good way to look at it.

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Things just kind of give them some
ownership to grow up. I think my

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son is happy that I did not
treat him like one of my baseball players,

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because when the way I treated him
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way different from the I treated Oh
yeah, well that's a whole another dynamic.

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You know. I tried to coach
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basketball, and you know, it
doesn't matter if you're a Namebamber Heller like

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myself, or just a father who's
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they're never gonna listen to the dad. They're always do to a third party

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before they come back to you.
So that's a whole other day namic.

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But yeah, it's it's just one
of the challenges again of being a father

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and a coach and just want to
be a mentor for your kids. No

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It's funny you get to talk about
that because it's true. Uh, the

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kids will listen to somebody else before
they listen to you. It's like the

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dag with Bumpstead, Uh, the
guy from how Much How Much Children?

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um, you know, the TV guy,

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the TV dad's Bumpstead and the Lopez
guy and m married with children,

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that guy, we really don't pay
attention to you. But UM, I

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was just gonna say something. I
just they kind of until until your friends

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they're friends do they Their friends probably
say do you know who your dad is?

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Instead? Yeah, it's just my
dad. But you know what I'm

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saying, you get more not respect, but more admiration from the other kids

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than you do for the kids your
kids. Um, you know what I

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mean. I think I think my
kids are old enough now I quenty nineteen,

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less than sixteen, and so they
have they have a good understanding what

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I did as an athlete and as
a coach. Um. But right now,

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you know, I think kind of
like my days are over in terms

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of my main books is really on
them, um and kind of where they're

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going with things. And um Quincy, you know, he was Quincy's he's

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our basketball player in the family.
He handled that situation really really well over

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the years where people maybe puts them
undue expectations on hand him were due pressure

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on him. Dicky dad, he
had to live up to something and he

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was very very good at established himself
early on. Thing. Yes, my

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dad played the NBA, he was
a great basketball player at the University Arizona.

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But I'm Quincky Gary, and I
think I can do these things well.

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And I thought he handled it really
really well. Westley, my youngest

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son who's sixteen, it never went
into sports. He told us at an

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early age that he was gonna be
on Broadway and so he's all into into

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musical theater and plays the violin and
so he didn't have to experience that so

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much. But my hand, my
kids handled it great. And I love

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the fact that now I'm Quincy's dad
and Westley's dad more so than Reggie Gerry.

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Yeah, we all get that.
We all get in. That's that's

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awesome. So so Reggie, um, you know this again, it's a

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great honor, and uh, you
know, not everybody, not everybody gets

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it. But again, what do
you like most about hearing this from other

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people? Yeah. I mean,
obviously it's nice to be recognized or something

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like this because, as I mentioned, it's something we all tried to do,

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you know. Um. Now,
you know, being around the Father's

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Day Council of Tucson and learning more
about their mission, you know, first

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of all, um, you know, this is just a win win for

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our community that we have something like
that, that we recognize individuals in our

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community for study collectives. And on
top of that, um, you know,

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let's want to transition it to some
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we talk to you since basketball finished
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lot of things going on at Uba
basketball was no, it is is there

408
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:22.960
are a really interesting time of the
year. Um. Even though I you

409
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.200
know, I work with Brian jeffreyes
Um as the you know, the expert

410
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:30.119
analyst for the men's team, when
it comes to the accurity, I kind

411
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:32.519
of stay I kind of you know, since I'm not on staff, I

412
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:34.720
kind of just take a step back
and I'm kind of observing like everybody else,

413
00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:37.480
saying, all right, where are
we ating? UM? I know,

414
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.440
I know Tommy and staff are working
hard. We've just got some recent

415
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.200
um so recent commitments from a big
man from overseas. UM. I know

416
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:49.559
we have a player from the class
from the Transferportal and Alabama coming. It's

417
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.359
probably gonna be some more names here
in the next day in weeks. So

418
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.720
I'm just, like everybody else,
really interested to see kind of you know

419
00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.599
what what you know, who we're
adding and where our teams are look like

420
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:06.920
for next year. Do you like
the way the recruiting cycles has changed?

421
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.039
I guess. I mean back in
the day you'd sign your guys that show

422
00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:12.319
up in the fall and now it's
like, you know, three hundred and

423
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:15.440
sixty five days a year, you
don't know until the end of the summer

424
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:19.720
who's on your team. Do you
like that? You think it's it's a

425
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:23.759
better way to do things, which
it was still the other way around.

426
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:26.680
I mean, what do you think
of all that? Yeah, you know,

427
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:30.079
the recruiting, the calendar is just
so crazy now as you make in

428
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.359
his three hundred and sixty five days, there's no off there's no off button,

429
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:38.160
which I don't think is helping for
their coaching staffs or for players in

430
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:42.359
their families just to be inundated with
text messages and messages just throughout. I

431
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.519
know they went to this because they
felt with the old model, people just

432
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:49.440
weren't following the rules. People have
back you know, had second phones and

433
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.599
just weren't you know, they just
want to follow in the rules. They

434
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:55.720
said, Okay, we're just going
to open it up. And so I'm

435
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:57.480
not a fan of that. I
just think the kids need to bake,

436
00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:02.119
the coaches need to break um.
But you know, it just it is

437
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:03.920
the way it is, and so
you have to be on top of these

438
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.079
kids. And even if you get
a commitment and mean if you sign a

439
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.599
kid, you know, another school
could still come in the last second and

440
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:14.400
try to steal them away within il
dollars or just whatever. So um,

441
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:18.440
it's just a very very difficult situation. I don't envy the coaches. It's

442
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:21.880
sort of all the recruiting they have
to do with, you know, seventeen

443
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:26.200
and sixteen year olds, which can
be difficult at times. But it is

444
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:27.319
what it is, and I think, you know, coach Tommy and his

445
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:32.039
staff are making the best of it. So let's go back to nineteen ninety

446
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:33.799
six and I'll give you some names
here. Okay, Joe McClean has done

447
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.640
an unbelievable job with what he does
now with managing some of the best athletes

448
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.200
of money. You're doing what you're
doing. Corey does what he does.

449
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:45.720
Rayo's I don't know what Rayo's is
up to, but I'm sure he's doing

450
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.440
okay. And then you got a
guy, a former guy named JB who

451
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:53.039
just got interviewed with Milwaukee Bucks.
What's up with JB? Yeah, he

452
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:57.640
is, he is doing an incredible
job. He got into coaching, you

453
00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:00.799
know probably uh, let's say five
or six years ago, you know,

454
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.079
held up, he hooked up with
Matt Brodzy down at their Rio Gras Valley

455
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:07.839
and G League. They wont h
I think they came in. I think

456
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:10.799
they lost in the final. The
first year. Brodzy went on to the

457
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:15.200
Houston Rockets and JB became the head
coach and met one a G League Taggle

458
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.759
the following year, and and then
ascended into the NBA as an assistant.

459
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:21.480
And I think he's been with two
or three organizations, but now he's to

460
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:25.680
the point where his second third chair
with the Wizards, and he's starting to

461
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:27.480
get interviews and so we uh I
spoke to him the other day. He's

462
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:33.079
excited. We're super proud of him. And he's a long line of UFA

463
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.440
guys that you mentioned that have found
success afterwards. And I think a lot

464
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:40.119
of that, um A lot of
that to me means they had great experiences

465
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:42.319
here here at the UFA and they've
been able to take those lessons and go

466
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:47.400
for it with him. How good
of a how good of a head basketball

467
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.079
coach do you think he'll make and
what will he Now let me let me

468
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:52.799
ask it this way, what do
you think he'll be best at as a

469
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.680
as a as a head coach in
the NBA relating to players. I think

470
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.359
he has an excellent job of that. UM. I think you know,

471
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:04.039
just his communication, his ability to
talk to players, UM, the e

472
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:07.759
they have with him, UM,
and that goes I'll go along way in

473
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.680
terms of getting his message across.
And and I know of these last four

474
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:15.400
or five years he's getting more more
responsibilities. UM. I think particularly on

475
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.880
the on the offensive end in terms
of what the team is doing. So

476
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.920
he's gaining knowledge. Now if he's
given this opportunity, which we're all praying

477
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.599
he does, he just needs to
surround himself with a great staff with people

478
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.480
and huge respects on people that are
going to be loyal to him, that

479
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.839
are also very knowledgeable. And I
think you'll have, you know, continue

480
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.720
to have a great career. So
let me go somewhere where we haven't talked

481
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.480
to somebody about this yet. You're
inside of you. You work for the

482
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:45.480
developmental development program, right are you? I do so, so now you're

483
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.599
raising money for what for the purposes
of You'll let us know, But now

484
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:53.160
nil money. So bell people,
we talk about the deep pockets or the

485
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:59.559
not deep pocket pockets of of of
of fans and UM and alums and all

486
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.720
that. So now they have to
you want them to get to you guys,

487
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:06.119
so you can keep the thing afloat. But now NIL money comes in

488
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:07.880
and you need to get they need
to get money for that to keep that

489
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:14.400
afloat. How difficult is it?
Yeah, I mean it's always challenging anytime

490
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.160
you're trying to raise money, especially
in the community like Tucson. You know,

491
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.200
this is a great community. We
have great loyals, supporters and donors

492
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:25.720
and fans and just UM I just
love it here. But it's not La.

493
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:27.880
We don't have, you know,
millions and millions of people to wish

494
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:33.240
to reach out to UM. Luckily
we have a you know, a really

495
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.480
solid base here are people that UM
are committed and really are supportive of the

496
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.160
UFA. And yeah, as a
development officer who doesn't do NILS UM,

497
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.640
it can be it can seem like
welkipedia against one another. But at the

498
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.000
same time, whether you're giving to
the UFA, to one of our projects,

499
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:52.519
to our fifty nine eighty fund,
which is our version of NILS,

500
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:56.079
how we can kind of you know, share some money with our student athletes,

501
00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.400
or to an NIL we built all
going to be a positive in terms

502
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:04.160
of putting a product on the floor
field that people will be happy about.

503
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:06.680
And we still can you know,
COMPI with a lot of the things that

504
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:08.079
we want to do here you have
in terms of teaching our kids and getting

505
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:12.279
um educated, making sure they have
all the resources. Yeah, these are

506
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:16.359
not sure your times twenty six years
ago, twenty seven years ago. These

507
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:20.880
are totally different times. Yeah.
I mean yeah, I mean it really

508
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:24.160
is. I mean I go back
and forward this, you know. I

509
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:29.599
think these these student athletes today are
so blessed to be at a time where

510
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.279
they are that they're able to get
in il money or fifteen eighty money to

511
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:36.960
kind of help them m I know, just a college life. Um.

512
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.640
But I'm torn because a lot of
times I feel like this generation that they're

513
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:45.440
getting, they're getting I don't know
how to say it. The fact that

514
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:47.279
we didn't get money, I liked, it doesn't bother me. I like

515
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:51.279
the fact we kind of had to
hustle around town kind of it kind of

516
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.559
made it come together a little bit
more, right, And I don't know

517
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:57.799
if they're really experiencing that nowadays.
And so I think, yeah, it's

518
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.519
good to getting the money more for
that, But I think there's a lost

519
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.079
I'll say it for you. They're
spoiled. They're spoiled. I'll say it

520
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.119
for you. I didn't want to
say I didn't want to be there,

521
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.720
Sport. I want to say I've
never had a generation dot got so much

522
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:14.720
for doing so little, but no
to their to their credit. You know,

523
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:17.039
it's year one, so it's still
kind of new. We're going into

524
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:20.680
our second year of the I l
I think it will calm down, and

525
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:23.519
I think um players will calm down. Yeah, okay, well I'm gonna

526
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:27.640
hold you to that. Reggie Everna, hold you too, Thanks man,

527
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.079
Thanks for coming on. Congrats.
Oh I really appreciate thanks for having me

528
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on. Guys A right, Reggie, Gary whatever, great guys. Yeah,

529
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Do we appreciate it? Um slow
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585
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and I mean not a lot,
but some big news. I think we

586
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should talk about Jim Brown because that
you know, we're gonna take that one

587
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.039
away from Jason. Sorry Jason for
your first days. But Jim Brown was

588
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.519
a big deal and in so many
ways, in a lot of ways.

589
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:55.360
And I don't know that people really
you know, I mean he finished playing

590
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:59.320
in nineteen sixty. I bet you
yeah, okay, So I was just

591
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:01.960
gonna say, I bet you under
four you know, and you know who

592
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:06.920
you was? Just yeah, but
under forty. Give me a time frame,

593
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:09.320
because um, I knew him.
I didn't watch him. You probably

594
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:14.360
watched I remember, I have vague
recollections of seeing him. You know because

595
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:16.639
I would have been you know,
he played to nineteen six. He retired

596
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:20.920
when I was six years But but
someone like your son in the third the

597
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.199
earty thirties to the thirties, don't
know him only the name, right,

598
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:28.320
I mean, like like with like
with those guys. I mean, they

599
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:31.239
never saw Michael Jordan play. They
didn't see him in right even and then

600
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:34.840
Michael Burden came a whole lot later
than that. Yeah, you know,

601
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.360
well, Um, Jim Brown is
sort of that for me. I don't

602
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:42.800
vague recollections of seeing him play.
I remember him more from The Dirty Dozen,

603
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.960
right, the movie. I mean
that's that's that's my big memory of

604
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:50.559
Jim Brown, and then all the
all the stuff he did for for um

605
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.199
civil rights and stuff like that.
Um, you know, to me,

606
00:38:54.440 --> 00:39:00.519
he's a he's a guy that uh
was so much more than being a football

607
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:06.199
It's almost like he was a great
football player, and he played football for

608
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:07.679
as long as he could take it, and then he got to a point

609
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.440
where he felt like he had more
important things to do. He transcended the

610
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:16.480
sport with question uh in so many
ways. He helped race relationships in California

611
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:21.320
when they were going bad. He
don't forget the love scene he had with

612
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.400
Raquel Welchi, who kind of who
sent the world of fire. At the

613
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.960
time, you know, he was
an advisor to so many people. You

614
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.159
know, he was an advisor to
Muhammad Ali and or catch his clay at

615
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:32.400
the time, trying to trying to
you know, console him through stuff there.

616
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:36.719
If you've ever, I used to
be a big fan of Richard Pryor

617
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.440
in his old uh his old Vegas
acts and comedy shows and stuff. And

618
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:45.159
you know, Richard Pryor has a
very um I mean it was part of

619
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:49.159
his comedy act, but very He
tells the story of Jim Brown trying to

620
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.559
pull him out of his drug problems, you know, and so he would

621
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.880
go do those things. Yeah,
and uh, and it was almost like

622
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:01.880
being a football player was so far
back in his background, right to him,

623
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:06.920
and he knew, he knew that
his power would be beyond football.

624
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:08.800
Right. He only played nine years, like he said, uh, then

625
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:13.960
had a great career outside of football. Right. Barry Sanders kind of the

626
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:17.000
same type of things, minus the
social right. It just felt that,

627
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:22.159
you know, his life and his
quality of life is more important than the

628
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:25.840
game, right, And and that's
what and that's what uh. Um,

629
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:29.719
you know, that's what Jim Brown
did. And then he went on he

630
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.079
was you know, he was an
actor. But in all that time,

631
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:37.480
I think being an actor and continuing
to stay in the public eye allowed him

632
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.280
to do all those other things that
he did. Another day where he passed

633
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:44.199
away to eighty seven, and we
talk about our age all the time,

634
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:45.920
kind of like, you know,
two old dudes doing the show, um

635
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:49.840
or eighty seven and I have my
mom's in our eighties. Um, we

636
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:54.400
know people in it's that's just scare
the crap out of me. And you

637
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:59.000
know what I'm saying, Well,
my dad passed away twelve years ago and

638
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:04.880
he was he would have been let's
see this year he would have been ninety

639
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.760
something, loot pass away. I
think eighty five, eighty six. Uh,

640
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.920
just the eighties have just especially with
COVID, my dad would have been

641
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:14.840
been year my dad would be and
my dad would have been eighty three.

642
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:19.800
So yeah, I don't know,
eighties scared the crap on him. Sixties

643
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:25.039
so the CP oh god, but
yeah, no, when I saw that,

644
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:30.679
it was like, that's the eighty
seven man, and you're thinking he's

645
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:36.400
more than football football and and I
don't know this because you see this probably

646
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:39.039
the best athlete ever in all in
whatever, and I don't know that.

647
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:43.320
Well, somebody that you know,
as usual, you know, I was,

648
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:46.880
I was following all this on Twitter, and a thing got tossed out

649
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:54.239
on Twitter saying the top five multi
sport athletes, and they had Jim Thorpe

650
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:57.519
number one. Could he was an
Olympia, he was a track guy,

651
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.960
he was a football player. And
then Jim Brown. You know, in

652
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:07.599
second somebody told the story that he
in high school he ran one hundred yard

653
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.519
dash, you know, one a
hundred yard dash and then ran into the

654
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:15.320
locker room put on a baseball uniform
and when played in the baseball Jim Brown

655
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:16.760
did in high school, you know, just stuff like that. So so

656
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.599
top five, who were the other
three? Uh uh? Bow Jackson,

657
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:28.280
Dion and there was a female.
Um I don't remember. Well okay,

658
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.760
okay, I would have put d
on end Dan bow Jackson up there.

659
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:37.440
Yeah, because Bow was pretty dolla. So so tragic what happened to Bow

660
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.400
and and the injury and stuff like
that, because he was I mean,

661
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:46.079
he was to everything and he could
golf with a seven iron. I told

662
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:50.039
you that story. I golfed with
him in you know, when he was

663
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:52.719
with the White Sox and he just
showed up. He had a seven iron.

664
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:57.440
He had a seven iron, didn't
put on golf shoot and he would

665
00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.639
he would hit a seven iron as
far as he hit my driver. I

666
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:01.400
bet you. He didn't dress well
either. Oh he well he had on

667
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:04.920
you know, sweatpants, and well
that's my point. That's my point.

668
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.360
So you didn't need to dress for
success. And he told some stories,

669
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.079
he had some fun. We had
we had a lot, and then he

670
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:15.079
played like eight holes and left.
But you know, I golfed with Bo

671
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:17.280
Jackson and it was and it was
cool. That was the day. That

672
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:20.960
was the day you shot I was
like, how can I say this?

673
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:23.360
Seven holes? Holes? What you
say? Yeah that you shot fifty six

674
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:30.320
with you shot sixty two with Bo
Jackson, he shot sixty sixty. He

675
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:32.559
was fun, he was hilarious.
He you know, he he didn't just

676
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:36.440
come out and you know, just
hang out. I mean he talked to

677
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:38.400
us, he told great stories.
He was fun. He was he was

678
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:44.639
and he was imposing big dude about
a big big dude. I mean he

679
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:46.719
to me, when I think of
that, I see him as like a

680
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:51.639
giant, right, I mean he's
he's what six two, maybe you know

681
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:54.960
he was super tall, but in
my mind my vision of that day golfing

682
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:58.679
with him, he feel I feel
like he was about eight feet tall.

683
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.239
And he's very cool anyways, but
you know, again, Jim Brown is

684
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:06.840
just uh one of those and again
you know somebody, uh my brother texted

685
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:08.119
to me when I texted to him, he said, you know, we're

686
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:12.000
seeing the end of an era.
You know that those guys, you know,

687
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:15.079
those people no, no, you
know, and whether it's a doing,

688
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:19.360
an athlete, uh, celebrity,
you know, the Mick Jaggers and

689
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.159
they and the Mountain Johns and those
guys were all going to be gone.

690
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:27.599
More your more your brothers, yeah, idols than your idols. I mean,

691
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.320
I think Keith Richard is not ever
gonna die. He's gonna be around

692
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:34.920
forever, but share but everybody else
you know at some point. But yeah,

693
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.760
all these all these people who were
the icons of ar youth, you

694
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:40.679
know, are going away. So
so Jason just real quick to kind of

695
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:46.119
put it in perspective. Who were
your older dude not idols, but like

696
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:52.320
older dudes that you said, Oh
well, I would assume Jordan. Yeah,

697
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:57.800
so's I don't know. You weren't
even born when Jordan was playing weird

698
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:00.840
I was, I wasn't. But
but you you you've seen play Yeah,

699
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:06.480
yeah, I've seen of them,
those those big foot footage, the old

700
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:10.360
black and white. Yeah, yeah, I've seen some of that. But

701
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:15.159
so who would be your your time
frame for older dudes, for old like

702
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:20.840
playing in like any league right now? But yeah yeah yeah, UMT Smith

703
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.039
probably too old? Too old?
Yeah, I don't know. I grew

704
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:27.440
up watching you know, like for
basketball for example, like Kobe Shock,

705
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.000
Lebron come that was yesterday for us. Yeah, yeah, like they came

706
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:35.639
in the league when I was like, you know, got a got you

707
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:38.599
out of it? How you're on
the r and I on the ball.

708
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:43.719
Hey, good afternoon guys. Tommy
Lang, how are you tell me what's

709
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:46.800
up? You know, you start
talking about age and I just keep thinking,

710
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:52.480
well I should stand up or something
here. You know, Hey,

711
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:58.079
how how great is it you know
that we have somebody like Reggie Geary you

712
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:01.280
know in our development office. Uh
right, I mean you know I know

713
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:06.440
a great friend of yours, Ray
Martinez. You know that was a dream

714
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:10.679
job he had, right you know, absolutely won the lottery to be able

715
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.159
to have that right, you know, that that that that ability to be

716
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:19.280
a part of that team. And
I can't imagine, you know, the

717
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:24.119
pressure that those guys are under.
Um, you know, I'm probably gonna

718
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:30.440
lose my mind pretty soon because I
just get so upset with people on social

719
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:34.760
media, you know. Uh,
and if we don't get the kids from

720
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:37.679
San Diego State, you know,
I'm gonna have to like, you know,

721
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:42.360
take the apps off my phone for
a week or something. You know.

722
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:45.960
Um, but what these what these
coaches do? You know? And

723
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:50.199
then of course I went back and
looked and you know Lutolson's fifteen out of

724
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:54.000
twenty five years, we had seven
losses or less, seven or less for

725
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:58.159
fifteen years, you know, twenty
one or twenty five, it was ten

726
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.239
or less. And then you got
the first year in the last too,

727
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:02.679
and Tommy Lloyd. You know,
these guys have families. You know,

728
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:06.840
you're talking about the Man of the
Year awards, you know for the peeky

729
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:14.639
and and may what these guys do, and we know they don't ever have

730
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:20.079
any time to speak of, right, Yeah, so you know people just

731
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:23.239
need to relax, to put it
in a in a term I can use

732
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:29.320
on the radio because we don't get
the guy. You're you're on the Tommy

733
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:32.840
train or or you've missed it.
There's gonna be late boarding for people,

734
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:37.599
but it just it gets hard and
it's frustrating. Hey, one quick thing

735
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:40.719
you mentioned is we get older.
Uh you know, they have these great

736
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:45.079
golf tournaments for many of the different
sports, you know, and that's a

737
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:46.719
great way to give you know,
I played and you did, you have

738
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:51.199
too? I think Jay at least
and many of the lud Olsen's out of

739
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:55.199
the Elk and Kistador remember those optic
and blot it all, you know,

740
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.880
you know, all these guys were
out there and uh, you know,

741
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:04.280
I am old. I saw the
rolling stones at scum Double Stadium in like

742
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.159
nineteen eighty one. I barely knew
how to put my pants on, I

743
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:10.599
think, you know. Yeah,
yeah, okay, I appreciate you guys

744
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:14.719
today. Thank you to appreciate it. Thanks, We're all getting old.

745
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:20.079
That's all I got from that.
Well, by the way, would you

746
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:24.880
guys call in please try it out
to cuss yesterday we hit the button,

747
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:31.400
but clarifying, okay, on further
review you upon further review. Howard did

748
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:37.119
say freaking. Now he said it
in a way that it was close enough

749
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:39.440
for us to go who woa,
whoa whoa, and if you listen to

750
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:44.519
it, if you're if you're just
I mean somebody texted me and said,

751
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:46.880
he said the f wort And I
listened to it, and he did say

752
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:52.239
freaking, but he said it in
a way that it was I think he

753
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.159
was about to say it, and
then he stuck an orange at each other,

754
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:59.480
like, oh good, the button
right, um, and then you

755
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.440
got two those you got two times. Some two people said, did he

756
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.480
said it? Yeah, so so
he didn't. But I cut it out

757
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:09.480
of the podcast. Anyway, I
still haven't asked it. I still haven't

758
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:12.880
asked Nick though. Why we hit
the dump button and it didn't dump.

759
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.039
So we got to figure that out. So please keep it clean and keep

760
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:20.000
it clean. Damn is okay,
crap is okay. You can't say the

761
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:23.199
S word, the F word,
and a few of the other words.

762
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:27.639
I won't go into all the initial
We try to do that too, So

763
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.639
we're trying to learn. You know, I've slipped a time or two.

764
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:35.440
Three Yeah, yeah, anyways,
but again, getting getting back to Jim

765
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.199
Brown, I mean just a guy
that well, okay, we were talking

766
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.199
to you. It was Kobe and
those guys, right, Yeah, those

767
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:45.000
are a couple of guys that I
kind of grew up watching from a young

768
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.000
age. Um. That's why I
really gone to the sport of basketball for

769
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:51.440
the for the because like I don't
have a team that I roote for exactly,

770
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:53.679
but because I grew up watching some
of those guys, like my favorite

771
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:57.559
players, Lebron. I like the
Lakers because of like Kobe and Shock.

772
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:02.559
Right, So so Hope would be
like forty ish forty one ish, Yeah,

773
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:07.760
because Kobe, because Lebron's thirty eight
is thirty eight, so you were

774
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:12.119
so yeah, you were only twenty
twenty one, so that's about right,

775
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.599
you know, seventeen age difference or
whatever. Yeah, Kobe, and that's

776
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:20.800
nothing for us because we you know, Kobe, who not even Gary Payne.

777
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:22.840
Gary Paine was more. I feel
I didn't even pay that much attention

778
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:27.920
to Kobe. Yeah, I mean
I think it was a Speah and I

779
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.639
know they won the you know,
the all those championships with Shack and I

780
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:34.079
remember all that stuff. Michael Jordan, you know, obviously, you know

781
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:36.400
I would I would say you know, I would sit down and watch a

782
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:38.400
game to watch Michael Jordan play.
I didn't do that with Kobe and Shack

783
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:43.519
or anybody else to this day,
nobody else right in the NBA at least

784
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:45.760
that I sit out and say,
I gotta see that guy played. But

785
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.639
I would if if the Bulls were
on on a Sunday afternoon, I'd put

786
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:52.679
the game on because I wanted to
see what he could do. You know,

787
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:57.480
I watched the playoffs. You know, He's the only guy that I

788
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:00.239
would say it was like that,
you know, back with the man Magic

789
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:05.480
Johnson, a Kareem abdul Jabar Lakers
against the Larry Birds Celtics. I would

790
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:08.039
watch them if they went up against
each other in the playoffs, but I

791
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:13.119
wouldn't watch them leading up to that, Okay, right, yeah, you

792
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:15.360
know, if whoever the Lakers were
playing in the playoffs, I didn't pay

793
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:19.199
attention to it until they were playing
the Celtics, right, So that that

794
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:21.960
kind of thing, you know,
to me, To me, the guy,

795
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.400
the guys to me were baseball players
and football players, you know,

796
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.199
NFL players, you know, and
I'm going way back to a guy like

797
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.880
Johnny United who played during the Jim
Brown Years. All right, we got

798
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.400
to hit the road real quick,
so let's get out of here. We'll

799
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:36.599
be back in. We'll get breaking
news.