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The Downbeat on ninety seventy one with
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bit later in the show, a
few things in the world of Hollywood to

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cover, including, you know,
a little discussion on this Nickelodeon documentary that's

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getting a lot of headlines. I
know you guys didn't see it, and

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I'll just tell you a few headlining
things about it because it is a part

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of the national discourse. A little
bit a new photo shocked the world as

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well, and much more. Eight
o'clock some Kyrie and Jason Kidd. Very

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interesting. We've been I would say
critical of Jason Kidd on this show,

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and I think a lot of MAVs
fans have been mm hmm. Boy,

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sure sounds like him and Kyrie get
along really good. Eight o'clock with that,

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that's about the sport stuff as well, and then in thirty minutes,

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dude, we had a plane story
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details are pretty fun and it does
involve one number of our show. It

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seems I'm here for. But all
right, now, let's do some spokes

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sports, sports and now sports our
gambling man Bruno Mars takes us into Otani.

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Otani will speak today. Now,
who's gonna interpret this if his interpreter

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can't. Yeah, we're all just
gonna be confused and staring at him.

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I watch show gun. Okay,
go ahead and give us a preview.

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Dan, he's ready. What you
think I'll sound like? I mean,

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I'll just like what like says,
and then I will interpret it and I

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will present it to the media in
English. Happy to do it? Just

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call me. Do you think he
can speak English better than yes? You

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Darvish? What's it when you?
Darvis ended up with the Cubs. The

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interview came out with him and he
was talking country. He was very strange,

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really had little Texas. Yeah,
I enjoyed my time in Texas.

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But it's good to be here in
Chicago. Like what we were told,

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we were totally getting doctored. Like, no, it's genius when they do,

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you do it the whole time.
But why do it you get left

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alone if you just yeah, like
I bet Deckie Matt's Yama same way.

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Yeah, he played in the program
with you, and you guys are just

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shooting this s I think when it
comes to media that they there's a reason

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the term lost in translation exists that
they don't want to screw up and say

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something. Yeah, there is that
too, who is it? Steven Adams

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got in trouble and he's Australian,
but he just said something that was I

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don't know, mildly offensive and then
you have to answer for it. Yeah,

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and he's like, why don't I
just never talk? Yeah, that's

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the thing. That's where like it's
really easy when people start taking something and

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running with it, whether it's ack
it or not or do something. There's

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almost should be leeway when something's not
intentional, and it's kind of clear that

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it's not intentional, that they just
misspoke because they're not from here. It's

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so I'm lucas very careful, Yeah, very fifth language. I think that's

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why he takes it easy. Yeah, as you say anything, as he

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should. Uh but yeah, interesting
to see how this O tawny thing.

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There are people who are already starting
to kind of go, is this our

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next Pete Rose situation? Like this
didn't I already cracked this case last week?

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I think you did. But we
will hear from him because it's time

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for well, he's been trained up
by that lawyer he is. They're going

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to continue to pin this on the
interpreter. Although even like if these boys,

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if I was right, you know, and he does gamble and the

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interpreter is just kind of taking the
fall for him. If they keep screaming

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this is theft of four and a
half million dollars, he goes to jail

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for a long time, so that
needs to change. He said that strangely,

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What do you mean. I don't
know. Normally you would say a

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long time. I think I did. No, you didn't. You said

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it's strange, but I'm gonna let
you get away with it. I don't

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know what you're talking about. I
don't. He's gonna basically speak poor English

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and and keep it nice and simple, you know, surrounded by multiple lawyers

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and yeah, and he will have
a new interpreter, which I've always said

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the greatest job on earth. All
you have to do is know how to

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speak two languages, and you get
to hang out with the richest one of

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the richest dudes in the world.
They are so close with their interpreters though

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the amount of time they spend together, they have to be like really good

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friends. I remember, was it
Hideki a Rabu that pitched for the Rangers

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way back in the day, early
two thousands. He traveled with his guy

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and I remember being out there with
the old hard Line way back in the

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day in Port Charlotte, and we
stayed at this garbage motel that was kind

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of attached to this this twenty four
hour diner called Johnny's, which was,

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you know, it was convenient but
okay, but I remember one one night

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went in there to get like a
burger, and a Rabu was sitting there

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with his interpreter, just those two
guys. Yeah, and they had he

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scheduled to pitch the next day,
and they're sitting there with a pitcher of

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beer and Hideki is just crushing one
Marborough red after another. Ah, I

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love it. Yeah, boy,
he was not the healthiest of guys.

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I think Jim Rome used to call
him the toad. Yeah, they used

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to mess with them. He had
cool elvis sideburns. Man. It was

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weird that he was here too,
Yeah, because it was a big deal

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when he s sounded the Yankees the
first time. Huh So, yeah,

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there's that Time's that any idea West
Coast time too? I bet it's like

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so it's just his big media day, like his presser. Yeah, actual,

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they're back from South Korea. So
there's a season starts Thursday. Probably

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if he has nothing to do with
this and it's all the interpreter, why

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even speak well? But he still
has to do a introductory right, Okay,

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so this isn't specifically for probably to
address this. It's probably their media

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availability and his is going to turn
into that. Right Will it be the

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first question asked? Or will they
kind of piss ready with the season?

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Yeah? Some of that? Does
it feel to be a Dodger? Do

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you like baseball today if you knew
that this guy? So? Obviously the

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the prediction that is a massive that
they're going to pin this on the interpreter,

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that Otani was the gambling man here. He can't be four point five

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million dollars of massive theft. Is
that they've called it quote massive theft because

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they were in the dugout together at
that game and then very quickly like there

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then I mean, there's a couple
of interviews with ESPN and then the story

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changed from the interpreter. But then
for it to go that way, it's

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almost like Otani's team is like,
no, this guy's gonna have to go

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to jail for a little bit too
for this, and Otani might not be

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okay with that. Maybe what if
he's like a really good guy. Well

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it's like a really gay He's like, no, it's my friend. He's

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not gonna go to jail for this. I got to own up to it.

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Like, what if some like honorable
thing is done, because to change

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it to theft have that much money
is multiple years in jail. Yeah,

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exactly, So I don't I think
I think he might backpedal from it unless

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he is heartless and his buddy will
take the fall. That's assuming that Otani

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was the one gambling. But we
all have a pretty good conspiracy theory here,

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or maybe it's the likely thing.
You know, interpreter whose salary is

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half a million dollars a year is
not betting half a million dollars per game.

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I gotta say I didn't think of
that until you brought it up last

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Thursday or Friday. I did not
think. I did not think about Otani

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gambling. That's the first thing I
thought, And it just makes the most

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sense. You guys, see this
tweet. This is a funny tweet from

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the weekend. Someone just had a
quote Welcome back to Sports Center, presented

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by ESPN BET for more on our
ow Twani situation. We go to fan

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duel MLB insider Jeff Passing and our
Draft Kings studio in Los Angeles, brought

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to you by Caesar's Sports Book.
Jeff, how could something like this happen?

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I mean, for really, he's
going to be given the third degree.

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You you were gambling, you and
like look at the green screen behind

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where I bat and has nothing but
yeah, either casinos or you know,

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Games of Chance or whatever they call
the legal version games of Skill presented by

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DraftKings. I mean, the world
is a change and it's not what it

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was when Pete Rose got in trouble, and it actually might be an incredibly

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powerful statement and lead to a very
big conversation by MLB if Otwani's like,

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yeah, this is I was again
he was using a bookie and gambling.

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I guess as much like Texas is
not technic is not legal in California.

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Right, it's not legal in California. But it was better on DraftKings.

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But he was DraftKings sports book,
not the DraftKings and the prize picks and

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FanDuel that is legal here, which
is you know that bizarre gray area because

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he's game of skill versus game of
chance. But what if he says,

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yeah, you know, I I
do like gambling. I look around at

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ballparks. It's promoted in almost everyone
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of Major League Baseball that is,
you know, a form of wagering.

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And I was confused. I don't
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to do that. But what if
he does? I mean, that might

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lead to a real big conversation of
fine, we have to address this because

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in some states, Oh no,
how dare ye? Yeah? Yeah,

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you have to either evolve with that, you know, the baseball, all

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the other sports have to evolve.
I mean they're already taking their money,

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they're putting their banners in their names
on I mean, is there any stadiums

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that have naming rights that are one
of these gambling outfits? Not yet that

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I know of. We have a
draft Kings Field or anything. No,

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I really don't know. No,
I don't think there is that I know

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of. So you either have to
like outlaw it completely like you did cigarettes,

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or you lean into it and just
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don't know, easy going about all
this stuff because it is hip. It

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does look It just reeks of hypocrisy
for them to have some real, looking

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down the end of their nose stuck
up stance on this stuff. The problem

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is this guy got raided in October
by the FBI. That's the problem.

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Is the guy that they were placing
bets with had had his illegal operations shut

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down. So there's you know,
there's a you trace those steps and go

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okay, you can't be doing business
there. And that's the problem. Now.

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I think playing that I was confused
card could work if it was him.

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I'm with you on that, And
I get because he has different rules

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than the law of America, pending
what state you're in, which is already

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kind of confusing. Yeah, and
I understand the slippery slope of bet on

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baseball, which from what I understand, he's not even alleged to have done.

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No, it's football of pro college
basketball, and soccer. Yeah,

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I mean, I do know hockey, understand how a player should not be

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betting on a game that they're participating
in, but it just seems kind of

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odd. I mean, do you
really think you're gonna have it? Who's

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works at your office? A bunch
of dudes. They're all age nineteen through

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thirty five. They're all multi millionaires
too, and they play sports, so

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they really like sports. Yeah,
oh no, that doesn't sound like a

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swath of people that are probably down
to throw down a little bit. And

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I get like, you're in March
madness. The Calvin Ridley thing is whatever

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Madhouse spring. It's a tournament that
happens in this part of the year.

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The Calvin Ridley thing's the other interesting
one because he was with the Falcons and

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then he no, he was with
the Jaguars. No, yeah, he's

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with the Falcons and he was hurt, but was betting on football. And

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I do get where you just can't
bet on your own sport, like you

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could be so privy to so much
information and tied trading. I would do

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you have to put it back into
your own life. Imagine if let's just

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use an example, We'll just say
if Dak Prescott was betting on NFL games

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and you were in that same pool, you know with Dak on DraftKings,

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Well, that would suck. Dak
would have an advantage on you that I

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wouldn't have, you know, So
I get why they suspended Calvin Ridley.

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I did not think they should have
suspended Calvin Ridley that much like a whole

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year. Yeah, but I do
think a big slap on the risk and

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like half the season, like yeah, absolutely, you can't bet on football,

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dude, I get that. But
don't NFL players play fantasy football?

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Yes, they've talked about as like
Eckler or somebody was like, man,

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I was playing against the guy who
had me. Yeah, they're not playing

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for free. And he scored three
touchdowns and there's no doing that. First

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scored three touchdowns in a game that
made him lose fans. No, dude,

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Yeah, ten thousand dollars ahead as
a joke minimum in the NFL players

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fantasy football league. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Probably illegal,

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but we had filling out a bracket
for March. Basketball is technically illegal

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in this state or you know.
I don't know, but it's the ultimate

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turn your head and don't worry about
it. How are they going to police

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that anywhere? It is being just
like while the snowball in America is just

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trundling down the hill and laws are
changing state by state, so it's not

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worth fighting or policing. Have you
ever wondered about the the thought or the

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dynamic of the NFL player that's on
a team and has a friend or multiple

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friends that are way into gambling and
they are able to get a read on

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how their team's going to perform by
the intangibles that we would never know about

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outside of injury reports, like just
the vibe of a locker room. It's

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like, dude, this team is
going to lose today. They are not

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into it. This guy's going through
a divorce, Dak's got diarrhea. You

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know all the things that you would
never know that only a true insider that's

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in the locker room would know and
say, I would bet heavily on the

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Bengals today because wing, Oh my
god, that's massive. And do you

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don't think friends of that that happens. Or how about look here's our offensive

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game plan. We know they're gonna
lock down seedee Lamb. Let's say they're

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gonna double team him. You know, like there's stuff that they know and

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they would be smart in your draft, Kings or FanDuel lineup to put in

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the number two receiver. We're targeting
Ferguson on the board. Dude, this

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is gonna be Yeah. Watch Ferguson's
gonna get five catches in the first two

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series because we've scripted some plays like
wonder we're pounding thunder that happens one hundred.

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It absolutely does. So again,
you think, let's say you're growing

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up one of your best friends is
that made the Dallas Cowboys, and you're

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still best friends. He's not suddenly
a puritan who doesn't gamble or care like

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you're like, dude, what's the
word? Yes? Do you think that

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players, via whatever avenues that the
team has in resources, that they have

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kind of instruct against this, or
have you know, meetings to talk about

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this specific incident. It's like,
look, you're gonna have your buddies coming

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up to you asking you. You
know, you may have a friend that

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really likes to gamble. They're gonna
be asking you, what's the state of

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day? You can't disclose this stuff. Do you think that that's part of

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the conversation when you're on a team
like that. I had a friend who

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was a seventh round pick in the
NFL and this was twenty plus years ago,

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and they have that rookie symposium where
a lot of it is gambling,

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you know, at least back then, even back then, Yeah, yeah

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back then, but it was more
harshly judged back then, because again we're

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in this gray area right now that
it's just hopefully ignored. Well, but

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when the biggest player in Major League
Baseball and one of the most famous athletes

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in the player it is now embroiled
in this bizarre thing and speaking to the

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media today, it makes it an
interesting conversation. I think ESPN will quietly.

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I think they'll they'll cover it,
but I think it will be way

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less than other places because they just
launched ESPN bet until Igo. And the

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other thing is of Tawani. Baseball
is going to step into and be smart

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here too. Like I know their
commissioner's an idiot, but Baseball is not

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going to like try to lay down
the law here unless something really bad happen

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because they know that they can't get
rid of their most marketable star. They

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just can't. So like, I
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nothing will happen. The real tense
thing is labeling it a five million dollar

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theft and someone has to go to
prison for that, So that's that's where

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it gets tense. So he could
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I don't think Baseball is going to
do anything about it. He come and

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clean on nothing today? Probably not. Nothing's going to implicate him. And

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look, there's a there's a there's
a very good chance that all of this

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as it's is, as it is
presented, that this guy had access to

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his accounts and was able to zell
himself money or transfer or wire himself money

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from Otani's account unbeknownst to Otani.
It's possible. I don't know if I

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believe that. It doesn't seem plausible, but it is possible. Yeah,

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all right, this is the least
verified information I'll ever give you. But

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a friend just text he said,
apparently some bets placed against Angels in otani

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hometown in Japan, over on runs, et cetera, millions, And I'm

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trying to look it up. So
in his hometown, like okay, So

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if he told some friends and on
Angels games and over on runs, that's

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the thing with the Fed. What's
the FEDS get involved? Well, I

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guess any suspension that's more powerful than
base Do they have any jurisdiction on bets

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placed in Japan and any ability to
really prove I don't know, but I

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hear what you bring that element of
law enforcement into it. That their reach

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is pretty broad. And and that's
the thing about the FBI is if they

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find a scent and they have a
mission, an objective, or even a

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want to to investigate something, they
will do it to the fullest. And

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if they want to implicate Otani,
if they think that they're if they see

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enough smoke and think that there's a
fire there, you bet you're ass they're

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going to go after him. Right, But is that a priority for the

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FBI nowadays? Again, they love
these cases. I know they love the

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big, high profile cases. If
if it's a legal bet placed in a

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distant land, yeah, and really
hard to you know, was it made

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through that bookie? Though? Well, I don't know that's placed from Japan

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right in Japan, because if it's
made with that bookie, then it is

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illegal no in Japan by for buy
someone else in his hometown and a yeah,

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that's a text I got, I'm
not reporting that. But what if

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a million dollar I mean, I
don't know, wish a million bucks?

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If five and a half rounds get
scored in this game? Yeah? And

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is it? But well we'll be
tracking. Uh, well, I'll call

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norm. What's it he doesn't know. He might know, he knows things.

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Just nice to catch up with Norm. It would be nice. We

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had less than two minutes next Norm, Norm. I wonder if he would

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Probably not he would the right.
Hi, Norm, if you're listening,

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he's not listening to you. He
loves me, my best friend. Real

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quick. Listen to how smoky Boachi
is. This is behind the scenes footage

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the Rangers released. They bring White
Langford into the coach's office and to tell

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him that he's made the team.
Clost moments, Uh, you know,

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for manager is a moment like now, that's being able to tell you here

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with the major they team here and
I could be happier, it could be

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prouder for you. I mean,
would know how fast this is all happening

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for you. And I got to
tell you there's never any doubt in our

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mind. Ice work again. I'm
excited they win some game. It's awesome.

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White, Congratulations, you've already man, and this is just the beginning

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and you got the best of you
have to comsop probably rang job. Thank

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you. Yeah, that's White walks
out. It's awesome. That what a

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studs. That's Chris Young? Why
what whe like oh, really I made

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the team. Oh yeah, wow, I better call my family. Could

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have made it last is the beginning
for you. I need an apartment.

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You think boat chopper, good breath. I just wanted you to know now

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you did real good and spring training. I think it smells like when you

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hug carry at a remote as I
hugged him on Saturday night. He smells

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fine. It's just you know,
he's a smoker, and you could tell,

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you know, hugged too many people
these days, that are right,

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you know? Yeah? Yeah,
Come give me a big old hug,

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Mike. That's all right. Give
me a good old Benson and the hedges.

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Let's all right. By the way, Mike, I want you.

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You made the team a team cigarette. Come here, boy, give it

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a big old, big old cigarette. God, you have a large head

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coming up. Love him and the
scuttle but a funny planet, but also

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one of the biggest names in pop
music ever was in town and no one

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even talked about it. Next to
ninety seven one's freak