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The following is a presentation of play
Fly Sports Properties in Michigan State Sports Properties.

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Well, hello and good evening everyone. It is Thursday, August twenty

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four, two thousand and twenty three. Welcome to the Only Show about Spartan

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Dogs hosted by Spartan Dogs. This
is Sparta m s you. I'm your

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host, Jason straight Horn played in
the Perlis saving Eras's team Captain and a

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center and my two dogs here.
Otis the Boss Wiley ball Hawk and Hardhead

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and Safety and true Culcort touchdown machine
played during the John L. Smith and

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D'Antonio era. Look, guys,
this is your first time to the show.

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We welcome you. This is not
we thank you. Look, be

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sure to go to the live check
because that's where the party is at.

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We got a lot of special announcements
the jam Pack. We got a special

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guest that we first time having a
coach on the show from the Football Office.

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And guys, let us know where
you're watching Trump, you know,

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and be sure to check out that
built on Spartan Built on will up there

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in that hashtag because we're talking about
one hundred anniversary for Spartan Stadium. Guys,

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it's my full, but we got
a special announced. We gotta bring

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on Mama straight right now. Mama's
let everybody else, y'all look so good.

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He already to steal my thunder every
single time that I was set up,

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I was set up Marry and Barry
alright, go ahead, that's okay.

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The show is my young Whenever you
want to go live with stuff,

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I just try and make it happen. So so here's our announcement. Everybody.

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If you are in the chat right
now, if you click the little

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clothes out, you should be able
to see our store at the bottom of

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your YouTube channel. And also you
should be able to go to www.

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Dot This is Sparta MSU dot com
and get your merch because that's what you

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guys asked for. So there's Oh, there's Papa Stray in his white hoodie

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up, there's oh, he's got
on our black logo hoodie nobody, and

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there's Ju and our everywhere. Of
course he's got to go forty five degree

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America's next top model. Oh my
goodness, this is exciting. So here's

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the thing. I think the thing
that I love about our show the most

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is that we built it around our
community and everybody in the chat and our

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viewers. We built this show for
you. A lot of sports shows have

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their own agenda. The hosts come
on, they have their own agenda.

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They want to talk about themselves.
They want to tell you how to think.

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And I give you guys great props
because you guys don't make it about

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you, and you could. You
all have had tremendous careers. You all

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have great opinions. But I think
the best part is you make it about

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the community. So if you guys
in the chat ask us to bring on

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a guest or ask a question or
talk about a topic, I think our

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guys do a great job of doing
that. I just want to give you

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guys props for doing so. As
Otis says, kudos, Tia. Our

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apparel is the same thing y'all have
been asking for it, so we dug

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in figured it out. I'm not
promising a seamless process. I am promising

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there is a process and we'll keep
improving it. The other thing is that

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I love about this is anytime we
have a guest on and they say something

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fun like, what's the best thing
we could remember right now? Is production

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in the forehole? Right right?
All right? So they say something great

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and I'll always see in the chat
we need a shirt. We need a

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shirt. Guess what we can do
that now? So yeah, so we're

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gonna have like sassy teas or something. I'll come with some branding. But

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when we have a guest on,
if there's something that happens and we want

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to commemorate it with merch, you
just gotta tell us and then we can

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go through the process and have it
go live and you can buy it.

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So right now, we started with
logo wear. You can see it.

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The guys have their logo wear on. There's also some like details right in

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the sleeves some of the like Ju's
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front. There are a couple of
trademark things that we had to adjust for,

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but we've done that and now everything
is by code. Sure it's detailed,

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and so it's got some fun things. So, like I said,

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you'll see it on the sleeve.
Some of the things have things like on

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the in side of their like tags. So we started with logo wear.

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We're gonna roll out some other fun
teas like I talked about, and then

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we're gonna walk up We're gonna walk
out some pet things. We're gonna walk

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out some tailgate gears. So I'm
super, super excited. And this is

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the other thing. We don't have
a huge marketing department, y'all. In

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fact, you guys and watching if
you're our marketing department. Like we rely

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on y'all to tell everybody. And
you know, once you invite a friends

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here, it's like taking them to
a great church. They don't ever leave,

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right right, Please continue inviting your
friend wearing your gear out, taking

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your gear out to tailgates, take
pictures of it when you get it.

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Tag us in posts. Just be
proud. We're proud that you're a part

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of our community. We want to
keep you a part of the community and

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show it all off and you help
keep this will help us keep bring it

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to you because this isn't all free, but this will help also, just

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so you know the most important part, Just like our show, a portion

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of our proceeds will go to support
MSc Athletics. That's why we're here.

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We're here to sup their players.
Our guys played. We know how important

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it is. We had Kurt on
last night. He's got a huge mission,

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right, and he says he's not
going to talk to people about their

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treasure. But somebody's got to talk
to people about their treasure, right because

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we got to bring money into the
program, and you guys are going to

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talk about that kind of stuff.
And and Tactis came out the other day

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in an article and talked about that. So it is what it is today

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and we're just kind of rolling with
the punches and il transerportal. But I'm

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excited about the program. I'm excited
about this year. I'm excited about the

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merch. And that's all my time
because I know your next guest is way

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more important than me. Alicia,
real quick, are you sitting in one

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of those recruiting chairs that it is
actually too When you were here and it

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looks like you're in prison, I'm
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backyard looking like yeah yeah. And
it started getting dark at night too,

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he had no lighting. He just
start getting right. I love it,

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appreciate it, Mama Stray. That's
awesome. Thank you. We couldn't have

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said we couldn't have said it.
We couldn't have said it any better.

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Like we could have came out here
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just been going there. Oh,
this is great, this is far just

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but she articulated it and you know
made us yea, hell, I even

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want to go buy some stuff now
too. I think that's how we got

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to do it too. No discounts
for us. Look, look that that

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was awesome, a great role out, guys. It's exciting for us all

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the way around. And you know
we're gonna change things up. Normally we

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go through a block and then we
bring on a guess we got this guy.

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He's too important to wait. He's
got a lot going on. He's

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just broken camp. We're bringing on
Harlan Barnett. M as you second there

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doing good coach man. Yeah,
look at look at all this cheese and

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he's cheating before before all the questions. Let me go. That always takes

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all I know how to be a
team player. So go ahead. And

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this is in the facility that you
usually you know, on the side of

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whatever side of the ball you're on. So if you're an offensive guy,

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usually hang out with the the offensive
coaches most of the time. But you

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know you're with the running backs coach
and oh C or whatever the case may

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be. But with coach Barnett,
He's a type of coach that everybody gravitates

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to, you know, offense,
defense, special teams and stuff like that,

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because he's just a he's a spartan
dog and he's just a dude,

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you know, like you want to
like everything he says, you like,

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hang on the words. So he's
a coach that I had. I was

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fortunate had the opportunity to you know, sneaking a little bit there when Oldis

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wouldn't be kicking me out of the
Appreciate that Jay, you man, the

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way you pounded the football. He
helped us out every time. I know

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when when he used to truck people, I was like, see, I'm

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glad he's doing that to somebody else, like the bang stick and shoot you

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o man, Like, wouldn't that
have been something to see y'all going head

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to head? Boy hurt? You
said that is hurt. Look at you

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so coach me. You know when
you I know, when you guys took

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over the program, like I remember, you know, highlights start to bring

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because do you start to bring the
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from when we have to John L. Smith here, and then you know

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we start to see highlights in the
bank stick and I think we were.

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We were most fortunate because you had
a former player who knew what the positions

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was to be. It was was
about like what the defensive back mindset,

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and you came in and kind of
reset that for us. But you know,

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we always act like, how did
you get the name the bank stick?

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Now? How did you get it? We already know how'd you got

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it? But who who? Who
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was actually my last year at stake. Uh oh, and my father did

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so. My father, Carlos Barnet, he thought that Jack Evelyn and they

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got caught him to bank said he
his thing was uh he said, he

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said, My family called me harridly. Okay, my mother, anybody back

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at home? They caught me hardly, harl Yeah. Like you had two

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underwater cattle prods on both the shoulders
on like one show on each shoulder and

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it's a bang stick that's for sharks. You know that he gave up with

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the bank stick man and shout out
to my all, the man is you

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just brought that up? And I'm
gonna keep my emotions attack. But it's

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been two years ago today that he
passed away. Man, But great man,

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great Man left Man. Well,
we know we know that you.

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Yeah, we know that you cut
from that cloth, right, so like

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you also pouring into us and young
men. And that's what Jay you said.

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Everybody gravity to gravitate. Toy is
like man because he cut from the

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cloth. Man. It's almost like
touching because Bartnett's garments. He's like anybody

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knows. You know, I'm not
parting. I believe Green. I believe

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I do believe Green. You cut
me open. I'm sparting through and through

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and you can't tell me otherwise,
you know. And I left a couple

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of years, but I'm back.
I can't leave his place. I can't

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leave. I can't leave namas sparting
through and through. Met my wife at

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Michigan State. Both our kids graduated
from Michigan State. So we are sparting

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down. Our kids knew the fight
song since like two or three years old.

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They knew the fight song spar because
it is your wife from Western New

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York. She is from Syracuse.
Family member for two child. You know

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ahead we met in nineteen eighty five
case Casehall north Cakes north Man right for

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brother man from the fifth Absolutely,
you know we have a lot in common.

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The guys on this call right now
obviously were all black man. We

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all played at Michigan State. Now
that we're sparting dogs through and through.

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But the other connection we have because
we're all sideline reporters from Michigan State Radio.

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All of us sideline reporter. That's
crazy. I remember. I remember,

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man, y'all. I did it
for two years, ninety eight ninety

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nine. I have some dudes.
Man has a dude. It was.

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It was fun doing that, you
know. Uh, That's what I thought

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where I was going to end up
being like on ESPN. That's what I

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thought. But God had another plan. He made me listen, like,

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this is what I told you to
do. So now I'm coaching. That

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was never my deal the coach on
the college or professional level for that matter.

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But God got away. He got
away in and I'm glad I did

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because otherwise I wouldn't know otis.
You know what I mean from you guys

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the way I know you and uh
and and it's been a blessing. Coach.

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Try to talk about that transition.
So you're you're doing sideline reporting for

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during the Saving era right in ninety
eight ninety nine, and then you you

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were able to get a GA job. How did how did that work?

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Talk about that? So, so
I do you my fast story? I

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go fast like we can, right, Okay. So in ninety four I

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go to I go to the New
England Patriots. I met the New England

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preach. I went there in ninety
three and one day on off day,

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Bill Parcels, the head coach,
says to me, you ever think about

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coach? I'm like, nah,
man, I said, y'all crazy all

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the time, y'all saying y'all even
kids don't know y'all name. That's never

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gonna be here. Go fast forward
ninety five. The next year, I

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go to Minnesota as a free agent
and Tony Dungee, he was the deepest

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coordinator at the time. You ever
think about coaching? Man, y'all crazy?

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Gave him the same thing. No, no, so then I so

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then I stopped playing. My last
season was ninety six ninety seven. I'm

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like the first year out of football. Uh and so that winner ninety seven

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ninety eight. I am a high
school ninth head ninth ninth ninth grade basketball

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coach at Western Hills High School in
Cincinnati, Ohio. The varsity head coach

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was one of the assistants when I
played in high school basketball, and then

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uh, then the coaching thing hit
me. So then I went back to

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my high school, Preston High School
in Cincinnati, and I coached football and

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basketball for five years. So while
I was doing the broadcasting in ninety eight

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ninety nine, during the week I
was coaching, but I had to leave.

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I was an assistant DV coach,
so I wasn't even there on Friday

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nights. I'm going to Michigan State
games on set, Dude, Michigan State

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game. After the ninety nine season, I went full time. Nick left

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and I went full time coaching.
A new head coach. I came came

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to my high school because I want
you to be the deepest coordinator. He

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said, but you can't. You
gotta be on the weekend. You gotta

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be here with the games. And
so I said cool. So I did

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that for three years and then,
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Man, that's a whole another story. But in the midst of my third

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year being the deepest co coordinator in
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and two, I give I'm making
the several coaches that I knew trying to

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get into college football, and uh
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you gotta be a GA. I'm
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like, man, I too ought
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to the credit. So Norm Parker
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Norm Parker was it was the linebacker
coach here when I played there. He

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recruited He recruited me to Michigan State
and Norm and Norm was at Iowa at

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the time. He was a defense
coordinator in Iowa. And he was like,

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Hey, if you come here,
you ga, blah blah blah.

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I promise you you'll get a job
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because you're not like a young person
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you'll get a job. So then
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tell him interested in getting the college
coach d But I can't hire you

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right out of high school. You
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down in GA said the same thing
Norm said, And I know they didn't

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still talk. You you come now
and work for like a year, you

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get a job. And I'm like, man, ga, I go down

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there in junior two thousand and three. So we talked to twenty years ago,

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junior two thousand and three. Well, I'm down there for six months.

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We went his first NASH Championship in
January, goes down Tony Or hired

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me at the Universe of Cincinnati.
Go right back home in Cincinnati from LSU.

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God then, because my family didn't
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and six months I'm there, I
get a job and y'all know the story

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from there after that be it.
We were there since nat even three years

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and then eleventh straight here at Michigan
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for two and now I'm back from
my fourth. So this is really my

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twentieth Michigan State football season as a
player, coach, five as a player

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because I read shirted, and fifteen
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man, I think that was fast. Crazy. That's crazy. But a

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story right there, man, man, I mean when back home, back

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home, right back right back to
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and mother was eleven and I didn't
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that was a whole another God thing
too. So but that's how I go.

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Yeah, So coach, like,
let's talk about the relationship with coach

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d like right, so when you
go and obviously I feel like you knew

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Coach D before before you even got
that call to Cincinnati and obviously that tree

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when the Saving and Coach D.
But talking about your first interaction fully with

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Coach Dan and how he you kind
of followed him and helped him win you

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know, big time championships and games, well, Coach D was on that

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Saving staff obviously as as deep as
a back coach. And I think the

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first time I met him, they
came down and they were recruiting to Cincinnati

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at my high school and uh and
so coach D was Witnick and I and

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I saw him, but this was
my first time meeting coach D. It

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was real cool. It was quick
enough the Major, but they're on a

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recruiting trail. And then after that, I had a nephew that played for

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US at my old high school and
coach D with at at Ohio State.

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I took my nephew up there and
who had who ended up coming to Michigan

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State and play Darren Darren Barnett.
But I took him up there at Ohio

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State and told Coach Ding them about
him. Head coach Tucker for that matter.

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He was up there as well at
the time, and uh, you

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know, he's got the chance to
know. Coach did a little bit more,

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not a whole lot. And then
once I went down with Coach Saving

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at LS Shoe and I'm now I'm
looking for a job, and coach d

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gets the Cincinnati job. He knows
and I tell people this a lab but

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uh, we we both speak saving
needs. So saving thak you with save

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me with mail. You know,
we speak saving needs. And uh,

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and so he because of that when
he interviewed me down at Cincinnati, I

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knew I was saying a lot of
the same stuff that he's used to hear

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him because he coached under him.
And remember I knew this stuff before he

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did because I played for Nick's different
story too, because Nick coached me for

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three years at my first three years
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him went to the Houston Oilers.
I finished out my two years, I

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get drafted by the Brown Holmes.
They fired up a head coach, but

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Carson Half. With the years off
season, they hired Bill Belichick, who

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hires Nick Savior and he says to
me, he says to me, why

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do you keep following me? I
think you're following me. And so I've

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been hearing Nick stuff a year at
nineteen eighty five, you know what I

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mean, and then nineteen eighty three
years at at Michigan State is another two

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and a half years with the Cleveland
Browns and so, and that was how

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to be broadcasting thing worked out me
going down to LSU with Nick. So

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my foundation, the coaching DBS is
Nick Saban My foundation and everything else is

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my own personal experience and talking to
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coach d and I, you know, we're still talking to this day.

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Great man. Uh. They're a
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lot, and I really appreciated them. You see one of your old teammates

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on here, Tony Manders. In
the chat he said, great great teammate,

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great guests, great person, great
player. So you know, I

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know you remember him, Tony,
great man. Yeah you got some Tony

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stories, good man. Though to
Tony's coming back for the U of M

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game this year, Yeah yeah,
let me get to see him. Man,

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we're locking that in now. Tony. We has some dogs dog it

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was we has some dog like physical
and that's because Burlers demanded and I loved

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that because that's what I came from
anyway. But we were, we were,

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we were bringing it. Now you
was gonna get hit, You gonna

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get punched in the mouth. Yeah, I'm in and playing professionally. And

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it was a guy that went to
know the Dames that I played with one

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of the teams, and he said, we knew every time we lose a

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drug that we was gonna be an
ice to after the Michigan State straight up,

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that's real. Yeah, oh yeah, you shit hit. So coach

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me. You know you come from
that. You know that hard hitting background

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like you just talked about there,
and you know you were coached that way,

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you lived in, you embodied it. And now with today's day,

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you know, on coaching football,
how do you try to translate that to

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today's players. You know that physicality
of the game of football, no doubt

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so, so Jau. First of
all, I do believe that you got

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to make the game. I believe
in the safety of the game. So

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trying to make it safer and all
that, I definitely believe. But you

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can still hit people. And that's
why I try to tell my guys there's

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there's still a legal way to hit
them as hard as you can. It's

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only it's the only thing I think
in America that you can legally hit somebody

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and not go to jail, right
like you can legally like run through somebody's

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face. We always are run through. Kind I get excited talking about hitting

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people. I'm sorry, but but
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people, and I can't do that
no more. So I tell him,

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guys, I lived through y'all.
Man, I don't like salt. I

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do not like salt. It's still
football. You can still go same foot,

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same shoulder, and run through a
person and put your pads on people.

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Don't put your head in, don't
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hit the target, and uh.
And so I still coach it that

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way, you know what I mean. But definitely want to be saved,

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man, you know want guys,
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the head and spinal injuries and all
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But I do believe that you can
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very That's a bunch of berries physical. You can be very physical with people

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because it's intimidating. It's intimidating,
and that's the football. That's why I

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That's what drew me to play the
game of football, the physicality. It

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wasn't to play seven on seven.
It wasn't to get pick sick. It

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was people. That's why I play. I'm telling you the truth you enjoyed.

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That's some of that saving ease right
there, because he say that to

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us, like, you know,
it's the only place in America where there's

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no weight classes, right, kind
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seventy one eight whatever it is.
You know, guys wanting old lineman

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running down, you know, on
those big plays and picking off people off

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the piles. But you know,
talking about this year and you know the

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experience that you have coming back in
gass Broke camp, right, you guys

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have two scrimmages under your belt.
Talk about what you've seen out of the

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guys so far. I see that
a team that is steady growing and not

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only growing on the field, but
growing off the field together. They're growing

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together. And so now there are
some things that there's only so much you

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can do until you start playing games, and that that's going to even draw

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them even closer together. There's nothing, I mean, you can try these

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things that you want to in the
world. But until they start playing together

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and that bond even comes even closer, that's when you're really gonna see things

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start to clip for this team.
And I believe they will. And so

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you know, our standards are tough, discipline, selfless, and so we

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demand and toughness, We demand discipline
and everybody to be self less, you

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know, looking out for your teammates. We're still gonna be very physical and

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all the things that we do and
everybody should be should know what to do

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and execute and all that. But
it starts with being tough, discipline,

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and selfless. And this team has
brought into that. And again, the

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final pieces, the final glue,
will be us starting to play out these

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twelve games and watch us come together. And that's that's the key. Yeah,

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coach, you talked about like the
Spartan nations, like support, support,

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support, and like stick, stick
with it, stay loyal. You

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know, when adversity hits in the
season, don't throw in the towel and

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say oh this in that right,
But like you know, I know those

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guys from last season, you know
you don't want to go not to go

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to the bowl game, right,
Like that's the ultimate, you know,

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one of the first goals, but
I know we had it. We had

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a better team. And they also
came on the show that every player we've

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brought onto the show has said,
like, we know we let Spartan nations,

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that we let ourselves down, and
so this year is not gonna be

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that, right, And so you
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of last season production to what you
expect this season's production. Well, well,

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last season, you know, it
is what it is. I've kind

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of blanked out. I'm a DV
you know. Yeah, but but yeah,

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absolutely, but it was still a
learning experience. We had a lot

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of younger guys played, which is
gonna help us for this coming season,

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you know what I mean. Guys
like Dylan Tatum, Jaden Mango, Malik

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Spencer played, all played last year
significant minutes. And so that's gonna pay

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all four us this year. And
that's what I'm excited about. Uh.

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And let's state is a chip on
the shoulder, like we that's who we

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are. And since I've since I've
been a smart nineteen eighty five, we

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are a chip on the shoulder program. That's who we are, that's who

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were always gonna be and it's good
and nothing wrong with it. And so

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that's what we are talking about with
our guys, bouncing back, you know,

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never staying down. You get knocked
down, you get up, you

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get right back up, all right, and you continue to fight. And

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so all spartans too, Spartans know
what I'm talking about. So really really

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excited about what these guys about to
do this year. And the coaches stabb

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Is is fared up as well,
ready to coach these guys to the best

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of our abilities. And we have
a fantastic coach and stab in my opinion,

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and we're gonna get the job done. Yeah, coach, I know

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you're you're a defensive guy. You
want to be back there with the dvs

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and getting looking pretty and all that
stuff. I know you get a sneak

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peek. I know you'll be there
and you'll be telling your boys, Oh,

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this boy's coming at you. Tell
me about my guy Nate Carter.

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Who which guy Nate, Yes,
Nate Carter, the Western New York say

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Nate Nates are good. So we
can't let everything out. Let people get

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surprised about Kennon Walkers and let's just
keep it cool. How good player I'll

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take it. I'll take it.
I'll take it. It's pretty good.

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I'm glad he's on our team.
We okay, we take that. Definitely

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take that. Like so so with
camp, you know, you had the

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two scrimmage, like you said,
going who do you like? I don't

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want to I don't want to sing
on any players, but you talk about

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the togetherness. I mean, there
was seemed to be a big emphasis this

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year on the team doing activities outside
of the game. Because of the locker

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room construction, they didn't have a
lot of you know, interaction as they

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did in years past. And now
that that's fixed. As far as the

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locker room, we got a new
locker room. Yeah, there is the

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how's the bonding been? You guys
took a more you know, active role

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in making sure guys are getting together. Is that still a thing that's paramount

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in your mind? Yes, that
that's something that we've definitely focused on for

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this offseason. No, just as
non excuse is just a fact, you

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know, in the construction of our
new building. You know, last year,

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you get out of practice, you
had a couple of guys getting shottled

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over to the stadium to get in
the shower and go to the locker room.

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You got other guys hopping in the
cold tub, you got other guys

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standing out for practice, getting extra
work, and so there never was that

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that that that connection that you normally
have just in the locker room. You

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guys know that, you know,
I have to practice. Everybody in the

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00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.240
locker room, you know, talking
about the coaches or whatever like practice.

409
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:42.240
I'm sure Old has never talked about
me, but I never did. I

410
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:47.000
never did. I never did because
D has some vouts, but you know

411
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:52.079
I never didn't. But but you
know, so so now now that was

412
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.680
why it was so important. Even
though we're still uh constructing the new facility,

413
00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.480
the locker room got done first.
So now those guys I can get

414
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.960
because that's where a lot of the
bonding comes in the locker room, as

415
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.480
you guys know. And so I
have to practice. You know, guys

416
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:10.960
aren't scattering around and as much,
and so that's that's definitely gonna and it's

417
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:15.799
already helping our team grow closer together. We love it. Coach. We

418
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.200
don't want to let you any secrets
out of the bag right now. I

419
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.920
know you got some important stuff to
get to. You know, we really

420
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:25.200
appreciate you spending this time with us, and drop it by this part.

421
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:27.160
They miss you. Man, It's
always good to see a fellow Spartan dog

422
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:41.079
line. Coach be oh you said
just kidding that kidding, appreciate you,

423
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:49.319
Coach, thanks, you appreciate y'all. Man, this is far oh Man,

424
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:56.440
that's out set four sideline reporters.
You're talking about legacy, legacy,

425
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.799
legacy. I wanted I wonder if
we have more times like, man,

426
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.039
how is how is talking to meeting
with George? And you know, how

427
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.000
was that? Because George was obviously
the head guy then, right, so

428
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:12.599
yeah, many decades from George,
but just listening to Coach Barnett there,

429
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.720
like, how can you not like
be you want to play for a guy

430
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.920
like that? You know, he
cares, he's enthusiastic, you know,

431
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:22.079
and that fire that he rings there. You know it's just you know,

432
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:27.680
just a great guy and uh,
you know great not get that. Look

433
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.160
look, coach, look, we
probably I'm gonna ask coach if we could

434
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:36.200
deem his phrase. But he always
told us you gotta go to cool school.

435
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:38.680
When you the deep and the deep
deep routes, you can't paying it.

436
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.720
You know how people painting like oh, you know, jumping and every

437
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.400
ey feel be like come, oh
you gotta go school, cool school,

438
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:51.119
cool school, you know, smooth, cool called collected. But I told

439
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:55.319
you guys, this beffore man coach
b every game before as we warm it

440
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:57.200
up, he'll come over to me
and he does us with all the dbs.

441
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:00.759
Now, but he he said,
hey, you're the best, say

442
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:06.160
ifty in the nation. Play like
it, and just mentally it was like,

443
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:07.839
you know, man, am I
like it was kind of like you

444
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.279
know, from beginning when Coach John
L. Smith, it was like we

445
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:14.759
were just playing, but like we're
probably never heard that from you know,

446
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:17.240
the staff. But with coach came
in, he's putting these positive affirmations and

447
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:21.240
you'd been like, go out there
and play like the best. You are

448
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.160
the best. And so we gotta
I mean, we got great ones on

449
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:27.119
our staff and former dogs on the
staff, which is great. We gotta

450
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.640
get coach Hawkins on to give him
that mentality because they're both like Ying and

451
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:34.400
Yang. They both get the wide
receivers of dbs. They give that hard,

452
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.200
tough coach and love, but they
bring that spartan dog away. So

453
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.359
I love that we had coach beyond
first coach to bless the show tonight.

454
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:45.400
Oh man, it was beautiful.
Love it. Don't forget to hit the

455
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like and subscribe buttons. I hear
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456
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pancakes and high five slap you are
you? Are you that high five guy

468
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:04.640
in the stadium? Everybody or I'm
more like, I know you like I

469
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:08.280
like to over exaggerate if I'm at
a visiting team stadium, like last year

470
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:12.760
when I said the Thanksgiving game,
the Bills and the Lions, and I

471
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:16.159
was, you know, wearing my
Bills gear and would you would? They

472
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:22.840
were getting pissed. They were getting
double high five. Yeah we should have

473
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.039
won that game. But guess what
your boy man? I told them,

474
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.480
I said, you know, they
it came close, and everyone they're trying

475
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:30.760
to get on me. They're thrown
towels at me. I was like,

476
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:39.159
guy's relaxed. The Lions are gonna
lions showing off. The Lions are gonna

477
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:43.480
lie in. Look, look I
like that, Steve. I just need

478
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.599
some of that chew chest hair to
set the backet off. Lack of chest

479
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:58.360
hill smooth, smooth, moisturized twice
a day. MS you hires Lino Lupernetti

480
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:07.400
as director Recruiting and Personal Personnel Strategy. Then he get yeah did he get

481
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:14.119
Dobby? Like remember this is the
guy that got Doby date, Like,

482
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:15.920
so what does that mean we're gonna
get some Dobby love? I don't know,

483
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:21.440
but this is every I feel like
every day we feel or every week

484
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.360
we add more to our repertoire and
our staff, right, and so this

485
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:30.280
is a good opportunity with Mark de
Thorn bringing in the this is legit,

486
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.199
Like I don't think we understand like
this is legit higher for us to get

487
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.719
more aggressive and bringing in these guys. And I have some ideas cooking because

488
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.559
I just saw some stuff, like
some content that I feel like we gotta

489
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.639
we gotta dive in and capture the
content of the recruiting strategy I'm looking at

490
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:50.519
always be closed and like, how
can we sell that from like inside the

491
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.800
spark Dog or it's just like inside
the DN like Lions. The Lions do

492
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.239
like, let's see if we can
get something like that, we be able

493
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.559
to kind of dive in. But
these two guys combine, can't to see

494
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:05.480
just strategy and seeing top guys coming
in from all across the country to come

495
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:09.280
to the East Lanting it's gonna be
a great, great one. Hey.

496
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:15.599
Sources inside the building say that the
recruiting offices is very happy. It's bubbling

497
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:20.400
over there. It's nice. So
what do you think? What do you

498
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.480
think the sales pitch was, like, how did we Obviously he didn't just

499
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.360
hit his put his name in the
hat like I'm going to you know,

500
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:29.719
search or goes go somewhere. I
know it had to be a call.

501
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.760
What was that call to sell him
on coming to the Green and White?

502
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:37.440
What do y'all think that would be? Probably like D'Antonio and Jim Bowman when

503
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:42.599
he was leaving Purdue and he did
his interview while driving up sixty nine coming

504
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:51.599
to Michigan State. I'm on my
way, of course. I'm telling you

505
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.519
you gotta look at the two the
two programs trajectory. You know, the

506
00:36:54.960 --> 00:37:00.960
upside from Michigan State's definitely a lot
higher than it is at Virginia Tech right

507
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:02.800
now. So you know, you
want to surround yourself with winners, and

508
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.719
that's what coach Tucker's you know,
that staff that he has, it's a

509
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.280
bunch of guys that you know,
have one and are gonna win. And

510
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.960
now it's a place that people want
to be. It's a it's a destination

511
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.800
spot, not a stepping stone spot. Absolutely all right. That's a that's

512
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:25.880
a strong sales fish right there right
analysis there too was outstanding guys. Seven

513
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:31.840
spartans make the Senior Bowl watch list. Let's go through that here, we

514
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:36.280
go. Jacobe win Man, Hey, your boys, Fencer, what do

515
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:37.159
you call it? He called you? O G What do you call you?

516
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:42.920
What do you call you? Og? Simeon, Daryl's Spencer Brown,

517
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:46.960
Malaitue car put that list back up
there, you know, Aaron Broulet,

518
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:54.239
Jacobe, Nick Saymac and Trey Mosley
mister reliable. Yeah, this is great

519
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:58.760
man to have these guys on the
watching this out. Let's let's talk about

520
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:02.599
based off of last year, but
then coming this year, expectations out of

521
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:07.519
that seven, who who do you
think truly has that full like shot to

522
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:12.960
go ahead and be that Senior Bowl
Awards recipient? Cool? I think,

523
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:19.800
uh if we I think definitely Jacoby
is a guy that's gonna get an invite

524
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:23.760
to the Senior Bowl. I think, uh uh Brulet. You know,

525
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:28.840
I think he's he's he's he's a
little under the radar, uh this this

526
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:30.360
year and uh but you know,
I think he's gonna have a big,

527
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:34.960
big year. So I think a
lot of those defensive guys will get a

528
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:38.199
will get an opportunity there. Trey
Moseley, I hope he does, but

529
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:43.920
I think this year is gonna be
so much of of wide receiver by committee

530
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.320
that not one person is going to
be that standout wide receiver. I think

531
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:52.000
they're gonna take turns. They're different
receivers will have big games and at different

532
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.400
times. But Trey Moseley's that,
you know, mister reliable, that sure

533
00:38:55.480 --> 00:39:00.119
hands guy, that's especially very sneaky
in the red zone, you know.

534
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:06.639
Straight. Hey, I think the
one shore one one shore one already know

535
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.639
is leak Car Yeah, like yeah, the leak car is is a beast

536
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:15.280
right Like he also he has an
eligibility for another year, So like it's

537
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:20.280
one of those two where hey,
what if I don't think he's staying.

538
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:23.039
Obviously he's gonna have a breakout year. But I mean that size and what

539
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:27.880
he's been putting on paper and on
the film for summer for Scout's Fall Camp,

540
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.119
like this is this is that,
This is that year. That's this

541
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.840
is that year. So spark Nation, make sure I said it. This

542
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.280
is one of mine, my predictions. This is this is my killer bees.

543
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:43.480
You heard it right here, heard
it here from me. Car is

544
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.920
the guy, freak league, freaky
league. Yeah. I think obviously he's

545
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:49.960
got to give them love to the
guys to put the hand in the dirt

546
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.599
like Malik. I think Nick,
Saymac has a chance to play into the

547
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:54.880
Senior Bowl too. He's the guy
with the pro scouts love talking about he's

548
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:59.639
got all the measurables and everything,
and make sure that that upper body injury

549
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.639
is healed up for next Friday in
eight days. So Nick would counting on

550
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:08.880
You are too, guys. Here's
the story, a national story. Reggie

551
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:19.079
Bush has five lawsuit against the NCAA
because he thinks that it's a defamation lawsuit.

552
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.199
He wants he actually wants his he
wants his heisman back. Fellas,

553
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:27.280
Yeah, wouldn't you good? Lord? Then you know the worst part is

554
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:32.480
that you start to do commercials with
an nca partner of the Windy's right,

555
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:37.679
like and you're making jokes about the
stuff too, like about what happened,

556
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:40.079
and like now it's like, yeah, he had that's a defamational character,

557
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:45.320
where like if I win the heisman, I want my heiman like you,

558
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:49.440
the school has one for him,
right, but he don't have one personally.

559
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.159
So I feel like and I know
should go ahead. I'm gonna give

560
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.880
it. I'm not running back.
But Reggie Bush was that guy coming out,

561
00:40:55.000 --> 00:41:00.400
like watching him do all the crazy
moves and you know, playing against

562
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:02.599
like that was Reggie Bush was that
guy. But like just getting man his

563
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:07.079
just getting man his his his accolades, like what you holding on for.

564
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:14.960
So my question to you guys is
what's the Heisman Trophy given out for the

565
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:17.519
best, the best, the best
player, the best, the best player

566
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.920
in college football? Not the best
person that gets an off campus apartment paid

567
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:28.360
for. They get for the best
player on the field, all right,

568
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.440
And so there shouldn't be a reason
that he lost it. And look,

569
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:36.199
you look at this Johnny Menzel documentary. I think this is all stemming from

570
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.920
that John Menzel documentary coming out.
And Reggie Bush sits back and watches this

571
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:47.400
documentary and John Manzel is on TV
admitting to all these violations that happen,

572
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:52.679
all the lies that happened that they
covered up in everything like that. And

573
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:57.000
now he's like, wait a second, I got a couple of hundred,

574
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.400
you know, a couple a couple
of thousand dollars paid for an apartment Firmon

575
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.599
family, And now I lose because
I was the best player on the field

576
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.000
and I want and earned that trophy. I get to be suffering from this.

577
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:12.400
So Reggie Bush has a great case
against the NCA, and if I'm

578
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:16.840
the NCA, save yourself the embarrassment
of going to court, of having all

579
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:22.199
this stuff come out and everything like
that. Save yourself that and just do

580
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.760
what's right. Do what's right.
Invite them, man, have a ceremony,

581
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:30.639
said Reggie. We eft up.
Here's your trophy back. You can

582
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:35.320
come back every single year. Reggie
deserves to be in New York, you

583
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.840
know, at the Heisman presentation there
with you know, with the other guys

584
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:43.480
that received their trophies. Reggie Bush
deserves his Heisman trophy. It's part of

585
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:47.880
the best player on the field.
Nothing that he did enhanced his play on

586
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:51.719
the field. It's not like he
was doing drugs. It's not like he

587
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:55.360
was taking performance enhancers or anything like
that. He bawled out and got a

588
00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.880
little, you know, a little
someone to the table, which is completely

589
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:05.880
legal for legal to do. Now, yeah over the table at this point,

590
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:09.400
right, yeah, quick quick pro
quote. Yes absolutely. Now.

591
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:14.320
Look, the best highlight was against
Friendsno State when he dropped on the dime

592
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:19.320
on that sideline. Yeah, you
had, you had, you had many

593
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:30.000
running backs tearing their knees trying to
see that movie. Oh yeah, yeah,

594
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:30.840
you know, it is tough.
I mean he brought up a great

595
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:36.400
point there at you about you know, Johnny Manzil and his Netflix you know

596
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:39.079
show where he's basically admitting to all
the lives that he got him got the

597
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:44.840
cash for doing the autographs and the
cover up. I really going into that.

598
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:46.760
I still thought his family was wealthy. I didn't know that was all

599
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:52.159
bull right. His dad wasn't rich
right up until that moment. I thought

600
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.880
it was really all money. Money, And they've bamboozled all the media too,

601
00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:59.679
because they didn't do their research.
The media. They're like, yeah,

602
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.599
I come from money. That's how
he gets these floor seats up the

603
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:06.159
Mavericks game, and he's flying in
private jets and hanging out with Drake and

604
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:08.559
all this stuff. And it's like, no, this guy is in the

605
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:14.880
back back room signing second three hours, signing some autographs and getting broke off.

606
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.519
Hey, Harriet got a great comment
right there. The Heisman lost all

607
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:23.079
credibility when they didn't invite K nine
to the you know, the third but

608
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:29.800
invited Adan Hutchinson. Yeah this is
true, this is true. So they

609
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:31.400
got a backped a little bit.
Guys, They gotta get a man as

610
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:36.679
Heisman back. You know, fun
times about that Heisman. Hall of Famer

611
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.599
twenty twenty three Spartan Hall of Famer
Javon Ringer finished, I believe eighth or

612
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:45.599
ninth in the Heisman voting. You
don't have to be invited to the Heisman

613
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:51.000
to get those votes. Eighth or
ninth. What's the high the highest?

614
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:55.079
This is a trivia question. The
highest Heisman voting finish for a Spartan football

615
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:58.960
player in the history of the Heisman? Do we know who that is?

616
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:07.440
One? I bet you Tony g
Nosy Trevor, you know he's the encyclopedia.

617
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:14.800
Let's see what you know? What? Well? Let that trying to

618
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:21.079
google in either Lorenzo r Nope,
no, not Lorenzo close but no,

619
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:24.679
Oh you know straight? Do I
know? Oh? Okay, I would

620
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:30.920
never asked a question that I know
they answered. I know Darles Rogers,

621
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:38.440
No, m damn, I don't
know. Oh do you know I would?

622
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:47.800
I'm thank you for winning as a
coach. Oh, Tony Dungee,

623
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:55.199
not one, not two, not
three? Four Super Bowls? Oh?

624
00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:00.280
Come on? That limits the pool
sick second. Now, I'm just don't

625
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:10.400
like I'm serving like I'm terribles partner
story. Oh, Sherman Lewis Lewis,

626
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:23.559
excuse me the third that's a good
one. And I got purlous, said

627
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:30.679
plos Hey, t J. Duckett. There we go, no no good,

628
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:36.840
good try everybody. Sherman Williams Lewis. I keep calling Williams Sherman Lewis.

629
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:43.360
That's our guy. Look, fellas, we're gonna talk about who you

630
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:46.480
guys think is going to be a
spreakout player this season. And we're gonna

631
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:50.679
start off with Chew because he likes
steal everyone else's thunder. We're gonna let

632
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:52.360
you start off, though, Chew. Who is it going to be?

633
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.920
Because I don't think it's gonna be
a shocked everybody. I got to pick

634
00:46:54.960 --> 00:47:00.519
one guy or two her what are
we doing here? One guy, all

635
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:07.119
right, spoken, the one guy
I think will be a breakout guy this

636
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:12.119
season. I know you guys all
think I'm gonna say Nate Carter, but

637
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:15.320
I'm not gonna say Nate Carter.
We give you too, so you can

638
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:22.960
say Nate Carter. But I think
that the breakout guy this season that's gonna

639
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:27.719
be Noah Kim. Noah Kim is
gonna be the guy that's gonna lead the

640
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:31.599
team. You know, when you
talk about quarterbacks and I I want to

641
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:36.719
talk to a quarterbacks coach about a
quarterback and I'm not gonna mention this quarterback.

642
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:38.760
And the coach told me. I
was like, what is so?

643
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:42.599
I said, I has this coach, what is so good about this player?

644
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:47.559
And this said, we you know, he just has moxie. And

645
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:51.079
I was like, well, what's
moxie? And he's like, moxy is

646
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:53.280
it? You don't know what it
is. You can't describe it, you

647
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:55.840
can't put your hand on it,
you can't teach it. But it's just

648
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:01.480
it. This kid, Noah Kim
has moxie. He has it. He

649
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:06.880
has he has a strong arm,
he's fast, he's he's a proven winner

650
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:09.480
at the high school level. I
know, things transition a little bit when

651
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:14.840
you get to the collegiate level with
you know, disguises, reads and everything

652
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.440
like that. But I think he's
the guy that can put the Spartans in

653
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.480
the best position to be successful on
the field. Every time he's come in

654
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:25.880
to a game as a Spartan,
you know, has been that spark you

655
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:29.760
know, he's been that spark plug
for the offense. You know, come

656
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.840
in there and he slings it around. And I love the fact that he

657
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:36.559
has no fear. You know,
he's gonna go out there, he's gonna

658
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:37.920
throw some he's gonna, you know, make you scratch your head. He

659
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.519
wanted two times, but he's gonna
bounce back from that. I think he's

660
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:46.480
he possesses all the traits to be
a quarterback and something that I think that

661
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:51.719
he gained on and won a lot
of his teammates, if not the entire

662
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:55.559
locker room, is his leadership piece
this offseason. The thing by taking his

663
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:02.079
receivers to Virginia, to his house, sleeping at his family's house, going

664
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:06.960
to work with his quarterbacks coach,
getting those routes, getting close with those

665
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:13.239
guys. He has that moxie and
I think Noah Kim is gonna be that

666
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:20.599
guy this year. M love it. Listen from your lips to God's ears.

667
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:24.679
We hope so look guys like for
me, I am, I want

668
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:29.639
to be a believer in Noah Kim. And I saw how he did and

669
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:34.800
I don't know in duty that he
was assigned last year, coming in,

670
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.559
he had a high completion percentage,
He's thrown touchdowns, he's been able to

671
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.519
play in the lights. I'm not
worried about that aspect. What I am

672
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:47.280
anxious to see is how he responds
when he gets smacked, because it's gonna

673
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:51.400
happen. Now, he's gonna get
hit. You know, we just had

674
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.480
the bank stick Harlon Barnett, mimistery
secondary coach on here, and he talked

675
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:57.440
about hitting and how he loved as
a secondary guy. Right, and he

676
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:00.519
can hit. Otis likes to hit
as defensive player. But when you talk

677
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:07.159
about three hundred plus pound defensive linemen
that can run sub five second four eight

678
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:12.239
forties, that can bench over five
hundred pounds, like a guy like Simi

679
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:14.880
and Barrel, Right, that's a
guy who I'm talking about. That's who

680
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:19.480
who I believe is gonna be Michigan
State's highest drafted player next year. That's

681
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:22.159
why I think it's gonna be a
breakout player. But when a guy like

682
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.920
that barrels down on you because he's
never been able to hit him in practice,

683
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:27.920
right, he's got a red jersey, and we want to keep our

684
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.039
guys healthy. But when that happens
in their game, how are you going

685
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:34.039
to respond? You know, when
your nerve endings and everything in your body's

686
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:37.000
telling you to run away and get
to the sideline. How are you gonna

687
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:38.960
respond when you get back up and
getting that huddle? So if he can

688
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:43.400
handle that, sky's a limit for
the young man. But for me,

689
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:46.320
it's a kind of a comment.
And I'm, you know, telling you

690
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:51.920
who I think a breakout guys at
SIMI and speak sim that's the guy for

691
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:57.880
me otis Hey, you know,
I'm conflicting because I don't want anybody to

692
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:00.320
feel like I'm singling out or I
got favorite too. But I've been at

693
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:05.440
practice as I've seen body of work. And for me, you know,

694
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:07.519
we did talk about what was gonna
choose too, but now I'm just gonna

695
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:16.960
go on right, But you changed, I did. I did so so

696
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:22.039
one I got to give another Montry
Foster Jr. Like I think that is

697
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.840
he is our one guy that is
going to take us to the Promised Land.

698
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:30.440
And but I will give him some
love to that later and when we

699
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:36.920
get him on the show. But
Malik Spencer going to practice and it's hard

700
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:38.559
to not just look at everybody.
I gotta gravitate to the player, like

701
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:43.480
team you played or the position you
played. But this guy obviously had an

702
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:45.440
injury coming in, would have probably
would have played a lot more as a

703
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:49.360
true freshman, but I had the
shoulder injury. But when he got into

704
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:53.000
that Maryland game, like this man
immediately made an impact. Like we're talking

705
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:55.760
flying around. I think it was
we talked about Moxie on the quarterback.

706
00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:00.039
He has an it factor and it's
all about effort, the toughness piece of

707
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:05.320
it. Just go hard fast,
Like make a mistake fast. I'd rather

708
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:08.159
make a mistake fast and you're being
hesitant and you make a terrible mistake,

709
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:16.480
but going to practice this summer.
He has the leadership quality that ex Xavier

710
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:21.159
Henderson, you know had you know, having one year with Xavier Henderson,

711
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.639
you can tell there's been some some
good mentorship there from a standpoint of what

712
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:29.519
to do. But he's back there, man, and he looks he looks

713
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:31.480
the part, he looks the NFL
body part, like you can tell like

714
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:37.559
looking at him, he has the
makeup of bringing the secondary back to life.

715
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.920
And so being young too, Like
we got two sophomores, but him

716
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:45.800
being a sophomore, that's even better
for excitement for Spartan nation to understand we

717
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:53.199
got a young secondary and Malik Spencer
is my breakout spartan. Hey, hey

718
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:59.880
man, look we got Ganoah,
Kim sim Simeon Barrow and Malik Spencer.

719
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:04.719
That's what we look And just so
you guys, just like we had,

720
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:07.840
we were restricted to three. You
know, we each had to pick one

721
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:12.280
because there's a lot of guys that
we feel are gonna be guys that's gonna

722
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.719
be dogs this year, that's gonna
step up. So like, you know,

723
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:19.159
don't you know, feel slighter in
any way, you know if your

724
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:22.760
name wasn't called here because we were
we only could pick one person, you

725
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.239
know, the three of us.
But there's a lot of guys that we

726
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:30.519
think are gonna, you know,
show out this year. I know,

727
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:31.920
like we're doing our production goal.
And it was like, oh, well,

728
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:35.280
I think the offensive line, I
think it's stivers. I think the

729
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:37.880
running backs, the quarterback, the
defensive line, like we the whole team.

730
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:42.199
Right, We're that we're fans too, right, we get it.

731
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:45.400
But when you know, somebody puts
an under your head and said you get

732
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:47.480
one choice, and that's it.
We thought we had two, but boss

733
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:52.559
Man said one. So this is
what we got. That's it. Like

734
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:59.320
that in my head. I'm picking
my skills, you're picking yourself. Look,

735
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:04.239
I don't need no gun to my
heat. I'm sucking him. Number.

736
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:10.360
Would you say, all right,
the breakout guys mail tucking as obviously

737
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:15.360
that's definitely a need. So let's
do it. Let's go colet's get it.

738
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:19.559
Let's go get it. Guys.
You know there's one of us that

739
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.800
has a he's been doing some work
on the off camera here. I've been

740
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:28.599
writing a lot and that's our I
don't shoot shoo. Ju Conker has a

741
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:31.559
book out shoot. Let's talk about
that. Yeah, you know, this

742
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:35.840
is uh, you know, when
I first was approached, this is a

743
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:39.519
work in progress. This is more
than you know, there's five years you

744
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:43.760
know in progress there. And I
sat when I was back in New York.

745
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:47.079
I was approached by you know,
this guy, Bill Burke. I

746
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:51.679
coached his son when I was a
head coach at Southwestern High School. And

747
00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:52.679
he's like, man, you have
a great story. I wanted, you

748
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:57.079
know, let's sit and let's you
know, let's get your story out there.

749
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:00.360
And it was I went back and
forth, you know, with it.

750
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:02.639
You know, because there's a lot
of things. You know, ESPN

751
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:06.639
did a piece something when I was
back in college. Some people know my

752
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:08.119
story, some people don't. But
you know, at the end of the

753
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:10.840
day, it's not one of those
stories that I want people to read and

754
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:14.440
be like, man, I feel
sorry for Jay. You know, he

755
00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:15.800
went through a lot of stuff.
I want people to take away from it,

756
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:20.559
be like shit, you know,
this guy persevered through a lot of

757
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:22.360
things. You know, if he
can come through things, and you know,

758
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:24.840
if I you know, get a
bad grade on a test, if

759
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:28.079
I fumble, if I miss a
tackle, you know, it's not the

760
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:30.480
end of the world. I can
bounce back. Because for me, my

761
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:32.360
story, there was a point of
time where I didn't know where my next

762
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:36.880
you know, glass of water was
coming from. As we're walking, you

763
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:39.599
know, stepping over dead bodies,
refugee camp to refugee camp, going in

764
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:44.960
there, opening our backpacks, pulling
our sleeping bags out, and bullets shells

765
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:46.840
in there. You know, it's
only saved by the you know, by

766
00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:50.880
faith and you know the backpack that
we had. You know, so this

767
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.559
is a story that you know,
it's it's really cool the story because it's

768
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:58.159
from the perspective of mine, from
me as well as you know, some

769
00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:00.199
friends that I had that were child
so as well, you know, so

770
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:04.760
they're the perspective of them, you
know, being you know, drugged and

771
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:07.599
forced into being a child soldier and
everything like that. So I'm you know,

772
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:09.880
it's it's it's something cool. I'm
really proud of. I think,

773
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:14.880
you know, Bill Burke, you
know, put a really nice touch to

774
00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:19.559
it. He articulated my story really
well. And it's something that you know,

775
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:22.800
like I said, I'm really proud
of and excited about. Uh,

776
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:24.519
you know, I'm gonna be pushing
it, peddling in it, So go

777
00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:30.400
ahead and get you get you a
copy of the book Run from a Civil

778
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:34.679
War to the NFL. Had to
do some little trickeration graphics that I adn't

779
00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:40.400
want anyone coming at me for for
copyright infringement or anything. Like you covered

780
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:45.840
up the logos. You did a
good job. A place can see it.

781
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:53.840
I don't want is coming at me
making that call. I'm trying to

782
00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:01.960
too great stuff, man, Like
it's obviously a two testament man to who

783
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:06.760
you become and obviously the man you
are today. But you know, walk

784
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:08.880
through because people always think about,
like if I was to write a book

785
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:12.840
of my story, like okay,
so how does this start. Okay,

786
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:15.800
what is the process? Like talk
about just I know it took a lot

787
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:17.519
of time to sit down and get
it down, but like talk about how

788
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:22.679
that process was with with big feeling
and seeing like obviously got to go through

789
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:25.599
it mentally and talk it through,
but just talk about the process. Yeah,

790
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:28.920
the process that you know, we
we sat, you know, we

791
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:31.840
would go twice a week, we
will sit at a Starbucks and talk.

792
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:36.679
We would just get the recorder out
and we would talk. And it's reliving

793
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.559
those stories, you know, talking
about when the you know, my life

794
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:45.000
before the war, you know,
playing soccer, kid, playing soccer in

795
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:47.920
Liberia, West Africa, and then
the day the war started, seeing the

796
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:52.320
torture that happened, seeing an adopted
brother you know, ten feet away from

797
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.280
me and get killed, shot and
killed, and you know, reliving those

798
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:59.719
moments and talking about those things and
figure out where to piece those things.

799
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:02.480
And then the journey of coming you
know, my mother coming back to America

800
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:07.000
and finding us, getting us and
bringing us, you know, to America,

801
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:10.119
going to a small school, graduate
with twenty six kids, you know,

802
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:13.599
in my high school, you know, the only you know, my

803
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:16.440
family, the only black family in
the school, going through those struggles and

804
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:20.400
those things there, you know,
the piece of you know, if I

805
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:23.000
wasn't a good athlete, would I
have been accepted, you know, all

806
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:27.840
those things, and then getting the
opportunity to get you know, get scholarship

807
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.599
to go to Michigan State. You
know, the doubt that people had,

808
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:32.920
you know, you're a big fish
in a small pond. Are you going

809
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:37.960
to be successful at Michigan State?
All those different things to chip on your

810
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:40.960
shoulders and everything like that. So
it's just sitting there and you know,

811
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:46.119
chronologically, you know, placing your
life story, you know, from memories,

812
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:50.800
from articles, from talking to family
members and all those things. So

813
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:53.000
and that's one of the biggest things. And that's why you know, people

814
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:57.239
always you know, I've had issues
with coaches and stuff like that. Like

815
00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:00.440
Jay, you don't take football seriously. You're always smiling. Coach Stoutland.

816
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:04.320
Stoutland. You I remember specifically,
we were in training camp and I had

817
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:06.519
a bad practice and you know,
at the end of the day, you

818
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:09.000
know, in between two days,
because we did two days back then,

819
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:14.039
you know, I was walking in
and you know, I had a smile

820
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:15.599
on my face walking through the halls, going to the locker room. He

821
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:19.480
stops him. He just starts yelling
at He's like, you don't care about

822
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:22.440
football, You're not you don't blah
blah blah blah blah, you know all

823
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:25.880
this stuff. And so we go
into the cafeteria case during camp for lunch

824
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:30.400
and he's sitting there eating and so
I get my train. I walk into

825
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:32.559
the table with my boys, and
I stopped and I went to him and

826
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:35.800
I sat down next to coach.
I was like, hey, coach,

827
00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:37.280
you know, I think we got
off on the wrong foot here because he

828
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.679
was the guy to recruited me,
you know, so I had a great

829
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:43.480
relationship with Coach Stolin. I was
like, let me tell you my story.

830
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:45.880
This is why I smile, you
know, I want. I overcame

831
00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:52.559
these obstacles and I'm blessed to be
playing a game. This is my life

832
00:59:52.559 --> 01:00:00.880
of death. And then all right, you know, like, yeah,

833
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:04.599
I'm blessed be playing the game.
Yes, I get it. It's it

834
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:07.639
sucks. If you fumble, you're
letting the team down. You're letting you

835
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:09.760
know, if you miss a tackle, that's but you have an opportunity to

836
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:14.519
rebound and get it right again.
So those are some of the things,

837
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:16.280
and you know, I'm always on
here. You always see me smiling.

838
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:20.440
I've never I've never had a bad
day. You know, some days are

839
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.800
just better than the others. But
I've never had a bad day because there's

840
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:28.280
there's my family member that that didn't
make it out of there. You know,

841
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:30.199
there's friends that didn't make it out
of there. So those are the

842
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:32.159
types of things, and that's why
I always you know, try to tell

843
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:35.440
you know, people if I'm talking
to you, you know, younger high

844
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:37.599
school kids, and you know,
people playing the game, enjoy it.

845
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:42.360
It's a game. It's you're playing
a child's game. Enjoy your your make

846
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:46.239
you're creating bonds, You're creating lifetime
relationships like we have here. So you

847
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:50.000
know, if that's something you know
someone wants to get, you know from

848
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:52.840
the book, is that that aspect
of things, of that perseverance. You

849
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:55.039
know, at the end of the
day, you're going to go through Everyone

850
01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:59.119
goes through their trials and tribulations.
But if you can learn something from it

851
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:02.000
and persevere from it and become a
better person from it, you know,

852
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:06.440
that's that's what it takes. This
a lot of personal stuff in here that

853
01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:07.679
I was like, man, I
don't know if I want this out there,

854
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:10.519
you know, so, but you
know I had to. I had

855
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:14.280
to. It wouldn't be the full
package if I didn't, you know,

856
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:17.679
let my stuff out like that.
Man. Yeah, I got a little.

857
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:22.639
I'm excited. I'm like, I'm
like, so this is when you

858
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:25.199
go through the store. When you
go through the store, right, it's

859
01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:30.079
almost like when you do your testimony, like you start to like heal over

860
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:34.800
like past trouble, right, Like, talk about that from a standpoint as

861
01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:37.519
you do the chronological thinking going through
it, talking it through, like where

862
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:42.039
the moments where you were able to
say man like that that talking it out

863
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:46.639
absolutely started the healing process because you
didn't really understand, like you probably not

864
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:51.039
toughen up and you know you got
to persevere. But no, there's those

865
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:54.000
those truly define you, right,
So talk about that. Yeah, that's

866
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:58.159
the emotional peace in there. You
know you didn't because when we came,

867
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:00.760
you know, we didn't go to
counseling. You know, we didn't.

868
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:02.960
We didn't do that stuff. And
for a long time, like my sister

869
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:05.960
and I would be and we will
talk about it, and my mind would

870
01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:07.079
be at We'll be at the dinner
table talking about it, my mother will

871
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:10.079
be crying, and then we felt
bad she was crying, so we didn't

872
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:15.599
talk about it. So then you
know, having an opportunity to do speeches,

873
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:19.960
do everything like that and then really
sit back with Bill and you know,

874
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:23.159
discuss you know, everything that happened, talk about it and everything it

875
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:25.960
was. It was some of that. It was a healing process as well,

876
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:30.400
you know, and going from you
know, everything from the PTSD from

877
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:34.360
when we came in, you know, lightning or thunder, you know,

878
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:37.480
came on and my nickname in college
was Thundering. You know, thunder and

879
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:39.599
lightning with Javan and I like all
those things. And you know, thunder

880
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:43.199
and lightning. We're my sister and
I were running, We're hiding under the

881
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:45.719
bed. You see a plane flying
over, you're running inside under a tree

882
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:50.559
because you think they're gonna come and
bomb. All those different things and now

883
01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:53.559
you know, you persevere through those
and you know, talking about it,

884
01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:59.000
you know, with someone sharing your
story that hopefully at the end of the

885
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:02.239
day that someone can get some type
of healing out of it. Someone can

886
01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:06.119
get like, you know what if
this guy went through this, this and

887
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:10.159
this and came out and you know
himself, fun loving guy, enjoying given

888
01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:16.760
to others. I can do the
same thing as well. Hey listen,

889
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:20.239
man, I just want to read
the book. I'm gonna read it.

890
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:22.760
I'm giving me a copy. And
you know what we need to do is

891
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:25.360
have a signing we need oh well, definitely, well yeah, we gotta

892
01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:30.559
have you know, a choo choo
signing day, you know, for run

893
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:35.039
the War to the from Civil War
to the NFL. And Bill Burke is

894
01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:38.679
not Bill Burke, the quarterback from
Michigan State. He has a right,

895
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:44.719
yes, yes, yes, So
I just want to know, like who

896
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:47.119
was the first book sign Like,
I know you signed a book and gave

897
01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:52.199
it. Who was your first like
giving the book to my high school coach?

898
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:54.320
Awesome? Yeah, my high school
coach, if he was when I

899
01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:58.679
came to Mary was the father figure
for me and I, you know,

900
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:01.440
and there his say his son wrote
a little thing, you know in the

901
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:04.639
beginning of the book. There.
Yeah, So my high school coach,

902
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:10.079
he's that, he's he's my guy, Howard McMullen. Absolutely, that's what's

903
01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:13.000
up, man, that's well,
I want to get a signature when I'm

904
01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:15.119
in my book. So oh hey, yeah, I want you to really,

905
01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:17.960
I want you really. Yeah,
absolutely, it's gonna be on there.

906
01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:21.880
But I'm gonna read that thing like
we real quick. You know,

907
01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:30.360
it's a long one. It's a
long one and read was an encyclopedia is

908
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:35.239
thicker than a snicker boy. Yeah, I know what I'm talking about.

909
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:40.880
I'm surprised. I'm surprised. I
know exactly what. I am so shocked

910
01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:45.239
that you had a lot to say
in this got a great story, you

911
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:54.840
know, your father's classic. That
is. I love it, you know.

912
01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:59.079
So we have it on there right
there, run from So this is

913
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:04.519
where you can get it on Amazon. The ju Cockorc Story available on Amazon

914
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:11.519
and Barnes and Noble. That right, yeah, this is you Get that

915
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:16.199
book. Get that book. You
don't do nothing else. Get that and

916
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:19.000
then while you're reading and you gotta
do it in some of this swag,

917
01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:21.679
you know, yeah you can.
You you cozied up with the this is

918
01:05:21.719 --> 01:05:27.079
part of MSU Hoodie by the fireplace, drinking a coffee, you know,

919
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:30.239
reading the book. How much so
physicated can you be? How much a

920
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:34.119
Hallmark movie can you be with the
book. We gotta do take some pictures,

921
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:39.639
like with the book in our hand, reading Yes, that's outstanding.

922
01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:45.400
Guys. Look great show, and
that's a a very very hallmark moment for

923
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:46.480
me, you know, to get
that book. And look, guys,

924
01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:48.840
we have lots of for everybody,
for the community, the people in the

925
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:50.719
chat. This is for you.
We have lots of you to do.

926
01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:55.159
You're interactive, We've listened to you, we talk about what you're saying,

927
01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:58.639
we're communicating, and then also we
give yourself to get you know, like,

928
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:01.639
you know, some gear, a
book. What else do you need?

929
01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:05.320
Some tickets that's all they need.
Oh, this is some tickets.

930
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:10.639
You know, you know what.
The next time we're all together as it

931
01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:18.000
is Sparta MSU fam it's Game week
eight days away. This dozen days away.

932
01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:26.199
Yeah, buddy, can't wait.
Cannot wait, guys, look awesome,

933
01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:30.360
guys. Look for I'm going to
wrap this right now because I think

934
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:34.239
that we've sufficiently done our job here
and I cannot wait till next week because

935
01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:38.800
it will be game week next week. We'll see you guys on Tuesday at

936
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:44.079
APM next week. For otis Wiley, ju Culcheram Jason Straight. This is

937
01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:45.960
s part of ms shot. Have
a good night, God bless you,

938
01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:51.639
go greet go white. This is
part my ms you as a combined presentation

939
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:58.239
of playf Sports Properties and Michigan State
Sports Properties. The show was produced by

940
01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:03.719
Tony La Barbara, Tony Gastella and
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941
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:10.920
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942
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:15.119
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943
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:17.679
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944
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:23.480
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945
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:27.480
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