Bill Cunningham the Great America, and I tell the story many years ago about
the Human Rights Campaign, And the Human Rights Campaign was started literally thirty years
ago in order to mainstream gay rights and also gay marriage. The key element
of the Human Rights Campaign was to bring gay marriage to the United States of
America. And after the US Supreme Court's decision of about five years ago,
written by just As Anthony Kennedy, the issue was won and gay rights were
secured and marriages were permitted, and the Human Rights Campaign had buildings, had
a staff of six hundred. People had to use rent to pay and so
they said, we have to get ridden out of gay marriage is something we're
going to fight about. What about trans kids? Can we sell the idea
to parents, the school boards, to the media, to the general public
that there's a terrible problem with children who think they're locked in someone else's body,
their male, but they think they're female or they're female and they want
to become male, And can we sell the idea this is the next civil
rights horizon. And many said, nah, that's never going to work.
People are going to buy this one. However, here we are many years
later, and it's arrived and in fact, it is an element of truth
in many schools in California. They came out a few days ago with a
message starting in August that if your kids are going to transition from one gender
to another, that parents will not be told about what's happening in school.
It's unbelievable. A new book is out by Mary Margaret Olihan d trans True
Stories of Escaping the Gender Cult and Mary Margaret, welcome, I think for
the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. And so can you first tell
the American people the issue itself and the death of the problem and how we're
responding to it as a government. Yes, great to be here. So
this is a book that I wrote because I was noticing just a slew of
young people coming forward and saying I was duped by this under ideology. I
was like, you know, portrayed by these medical professionals. And once there
were enough of them coming forward, it seemed to really confirm what many of
us have been saying for a long time, which was that, you know,
when LGBTQ activists tried to say, you know, these so called transgender
protections that we're trying to enact are only going to apply to adults. We're
not talking about children here. They were not being honest. And what we
have found is that media, activists and lawmakers have been very manipulative in explaining
what they have been trying to enact, which ultimately we now know is transgender
surgeries, hormones and puberty blockers for adults and for children in the name of
so called gender affirming care. And what these activists and media and lawmakers will
say is that these procedures are necessary to save people from committing suicide, and
they will say this about children very frequently. I was just looking at research
from a doctor the other day who was making the argument that, even though
she is well aware that puberty blockers cause very serious problems in children's bone density,
she argued that the risks were worth it given that kids who think that
their trans are probably going to kill themselves if they don't get access to this.
Now, that is a lie, it's not true. In fact,
what we're finding out now is that when you put children on these drugs,
when you put children through these surgeries, it is actually worse for their mental
health. Shocking, but that's not accepted by the broader medical community right now
because they're so tightly attached to this gender ideology. And so we're in a
very weird place right now where our media, or medical organizations, Hollywood,
the White House are all telling us that kids need things that are very obviously
wrong for them. A little girl in her early teens is struggling with mental
health issues. The last thing she needs is her breast removed, you know.
The last thing she needs is to be put on to stosterone, which
is going to affect her body very, very dramatically, both physically and mentally.
But that's what we're being told that these children need. And so part
of the reason I wrote this book is because I wanted to give people a
close up view of the real reported stories of de transitioners, young people who
tried to do this and then realized it was impossible. It's all in their
words, it's their stories, their lived experiences, and I wanted to give
it to people in a very raw way and help people understand the realities of
what's going on here, because it's not care. It really is and it's
very dangerous, and I think that the best people to explain this are the
people that live through it. And so your book deals with that so Mary
Margaret, I cannot imagine a thirteen or fourteen year old going through a genital
mutilation and hormonal therapy that completely changes their body to something it wasn't. And
I could not think of any other area of life where we would allow a
preteen somewhat a child under the age of eighteen to make lifelong decisions about their
health. And really, the American Medical Association, the president Joe Biden,
is all in favor of transgender rights and transitioning, always with a happy ending.
There's a basketball player in the NBA named Way who played for Miami who
has a child that's transitioned from male to female. But isn't there a study
from England over the last fifteen or twenty years that demonstrates that's the so called
puberty blockers and cross sex hormones and gender affirming surgeries. By the time these
individuals come out the other side in their twenties in their thirties, many are
extremely sad their parents didn't defend them better. Yes, yes, and actually
I would say European countries are far ahead of the United States when it comes
to this issue. They have recently taken a number of steps to protect kids
from these irreversible and experimental procedures. But meanwhile, in the United States,
our medical professionals are very much pushing forward with all of these things, despite
seeing our European colleagues and friends doing the exact opposite. And you know,
as the the transitioners and my books shared with me, this is something that
these kids can't actually consent to. One because they're kids, so which is
not something we talk about enough. But two because they're so mentally ill.
All of them are really struggling with mental health issues and so they're not able
to give informed consent. The other thing is they're not these things aren't explained
to them properly. So I don't know if everyone's familiar with the the w
PATH files, the release of the w PATH files recently. That's the World
Professional Transgender Health Association, a group of so called experts that are transgender doctors,
and these doctors were exposed to have been having private conversations about how they
knew that testosterone, for example, was causing some girls to grow tumors.
They knew the testosterone was causing some girls to be infertile. They knew and
had conversations about the fact that some of their patients were so mentally ill that
they could not properly give informed consents. And yet all of these things were
kept under wraps until the release of the w Path files because these so called
experts didn't want to go against their own narrative, so they were knowingly pushing
things that they knew were dangerous and experimental while private talking about how they were
dangerous and experimental, which is so incredibly evil when you realize the magnanimata of
what we're talking about here. There was one story I heard that I will
never forget about a young girl who underwent a double misseexony as part of her
gender affirming care and afterwards she asked the doctor, so how long is it
going to take for them to grow back? So that's a girl who was
so naive and uninformed about her body that she genuinely thought that her breast would
ultimately grow back when they never will. And I think that's a really good
example of how our young people are being duped in this way. They're being
given information that they're not fully digesting, that they can't fully understand because they're
kids, and they're being allowed to make decisions that are just way over their
head. And Mary, Margaret, you would hope that we as a society
advances we think we are, would say that if the parents agree to play
in to the mental fantasies of a child, that there would be teachers and
principles and doctors and children's hospitals and medical associations and the government that would say,
we understand that you're fourteen and you think you're a male and a female
body, but you cannot legally smoke a cigarette, you cannot legally drink alcohol,
you cannot legally contract to do anything. We will look after you and
help get you the mental health health help that you need, but we're not
going to engage in cutting off your genital parts, and we're not going to
give you a hormonal therapy that changes who you are, because the underlying problems
that cause the difficulty in the first place would be there. Where are the
adults? Where are the adults to say we will not allow this to happen,
Because if a child is confused and unhappy and has mental health issues,
and about forty percent of young girls, because of social media, et cetera,
have mental health issues, where are the parents? Are the schools?
Where are the doctors. Where are the children's hospitals? So saying let's wait
till you're eighteen, Mary Margaret. If somebody's nineteen, twenty, twenty five
or thirty and they're an adult and they want to make this decision, I'm
saying, have at it. If you're an adult and you want to go
to a drag Queen's Story Hour, If you're an adult and you want to
transition, have at it. But if you're a child, why doesn't adult
society say you can't do this? What where are the adults? This is
a great question, and I think you know, I sincerely hope and I
actually do believe that history we'll look back on this moment and ask that very
question when we've left this horrible period far behind us. Because the adults in
the room are very much turning a blind eye to the realities here and opting
to go to embrace ideology over sat facts and science and what we're hearing.
You know, there are certainly parents who, for selfish and narcissistic reasons push
their children into transition. That absolutely is something that happens, and it's a
very horrible thing, you know, when these kids are very small, but
I think what's happening more often, and this is incredibly sad, is these
kids are from you know, your average secular American family. Maybe they're not
super tuned into politics, and they're at school, they're learning about gender ideology,
they're learning about it online. They're friends at school are identifying as trance
or something, and so they themselves become interested in it. Maybe it's counselor
at school of firms them and tells them, yes, you're trans. And
so these kids, let's say, like a thirteen year old girl comes home
and says, Mom and dad, I'm not a girl, I'm actually a
boy, and I need you to help me get hormones and surgery because that's
what i'm told that I need. And so these parents, you know,
they love their daughter, that's their beautiful little girl. They think, what's
no way in heck my daughter is supposed to get a double mus eectomy.
I've known her ever since she was born. I know for a fact that
she's not a boy, and I know she doesn't have masculine interest. But
at the same time, they think, I don't know what I'm supposed to
do here. Maybe they're afraid of the school and the school is telling them
you have to do something here, and so what most of these parents are
doing tragically is they think, Okay, this is over my head. I'm
going to go speak to a medical professional about this. And unfortunately, the
medical professionals are betraying parents. And so when parents go in trusting them and
saying, look, I don't know what to do here. This seems crazy.
My kid's telling me she's a boy, what the medical professionals will say
is, yep, your daughter's a boy, and if you don't affirm her
transgender identity, she's going to hurt herself. And the exact line that they
give to parents, and this gives me chills every time I say it,
would you rather have a dead daughter or living son? And they say that
that's a threat. There's a threat to parents saying if you don't comply with
our version of ideology gender ideology, then your kid will kill herself and it
will be your fault. And so, you know, unsurprisingly, parents think,
oh my gosh, I gotta do this, like this is clearly what
I like. I wish I didn't have this happening, but I got to
do this for my kids. And so a lot of parents are going along
with it. And I had the most the saddest conversation recently with one of
the girls in my book. Her name is Luca, and she told me
that her mom was very against her transitioning, but her mom, you know,
was given this line by the doctors, and so Luca's mom ultimately went
along with it. And she said that when she realized, you know,
after the surgery, after the hormones, she had this moment of realization,
oh my gosh, I don't feel better happier, I feel worse. And
she had this moment where she realized, I regret what I have done and
I need to like undo it. And she said she called her mom and
she had to say, you were right. I shouldn't have done any of
this. And she said she and her mom both sobbed the entire conversation the
whole time, because what she was basically saying to her mom was your gut
was right. You should have trusted it. And you know, she's very
respectful about her mother, and all of the detransitioners I've talked to are very
hesitant to put any blame on their parents, but in Luca's case, her
mom's gut was right. Her mom should have trusted her gut, and unfortunately,
these medical professionals convinced her not to and convinced her to put her child
through these horrific things. So, you know, I have a lot of
empathy for these parents. Obviously, they should have made different decisions. They
should have done more research, you know, they at the end of the
day, they should have better cared for their children. But I think these
are unprecedent time. You know, this is we're in very scary and crazy
times where parents have to navigate a world where people want to they want to
I mean, at the end of the day, they want to butcher their
children. And that sounds horrible, but you know, at the end of
the day, it's largely true. What do you call a doctor who removes
a teenage girl's breast by telling her it's going to make her happier when he
has no idea If that's actually true. I think, you know, at
the end of the day, is this is very much harming children. It's
very dangerous and experimental, and I God bless the parents that are dealing with
all of this, because it is not a danger that our society has been
confronted with recently, and it's an absolutely terrible hurdle for them. Mary Margaret
revealing the truth about transgenderism and its industry. A lot of money involved,
so disturbing that transgender activists will do anything to try to hide this story because
of the money and because of the political activism. Because children with mental problems
now layer the other problems on top of the other problems, and by the
time they get to be twenty five or thirty, they look back and ask
their mom or dad, why'd you do this to me? And mom might
say, well, I was told do you want a dead daughter or a
living son? And the parents are in a difficult position. They go to
the doctor, to the medical industry and they say, oh no, oh
no, a lot of a lot of mental problems. We're gonna cut off
your genitals and then things will be better. The book is once again May
Margaret Olahan and the True Stories of Escaping the Gender Cult. And thank you
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Get the truth out and the truth
will set us all free. Mary Margaret, thank you very much, thank
you so much for having me. God bless you. Let's continue with more.
Wow. Dwayne Wade has left. The basketball player has left Florida because
he thinks transgender rights are not being allowed in Florida. I like to check
in with him in about ten years to see what his new daughter thinks about
the behavior of the parents. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WLW and
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