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Right, good morning on the middle
of the week. Ain't good, ain't

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bad, just it is what it
is. Aco Dame Radio program, Glad

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to have you along. I need
to add one more thing to the that

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story of the high school up in
New York where the decided, Hey,

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you know what, I know,
it's school supposed to supposed to be in

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school today, but we're into remote
learning because we're going to move two thousand

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of the the migrants into the school. This is what kills me. Right.

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There isn't a city in the United
States that has more resources available,

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right, just out of sheer size, population set, in valuation, you

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know, of of everything there,
the amount of money I mean, la,

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I guess could compete, but New
York still beats them out. And

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even with all of those resources,
everything is like a panicked decision where they

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don't know what to do, right. They're like, all right, let's

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take all our sports fields and now
they're a camp. Let's let's take hotels

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in Times Square and we'll convert those
to migrant housing. Oh no, there's

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a bunch of problems and asks.
So what so let's do that? What

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was the what was the other big
one where you're just like, what are

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you doing? And but I point
this out because the numbers that New York

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seen, even though it is a
lot by New York standards, pales in

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comparison to what communities in Texas and
Arizona and even parts of California and especially

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small communities have dealt with for ever
and especially now in a much more significant

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fashion. Like where was it Brownsville, Texas? Do you remember the video

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where they showed downtown Brownsville and the
entirety of it looks like San Francisco with

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but like one big homeless camp,
just people camping there. That was it.

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That was That was like the totality
of their business district just covered.

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Just trying to deal with the numbers. And remember we saw those numbers,

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and like, you look at those
numbers and you realize if you you could

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fill four Michigan football stadiums with with
the with the latest round of numbers in

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retrospect for twenty twenty three, it's
just it's crazy. Man. So now

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they're going to do this. But
I was slightly inaccurate. They're not doing

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remote learning in the sense that everybody's
tuning in to the normal class and then

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there's the teacher on the other side. No, no, no, Instead,

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actually what they're doing is why can't
I never remember the name of this.

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The students are being provided their assignments, which are available on this Google

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Docs thing that they I guess the
school has that, you know, to

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provide resources to the kids. And
also during remote learning, Google Classrooms is

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what it's called. So students were
sent a message instructing them to log into

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their Google Classrooms account, pick up
the required assignments, and spend the day

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doing those assignments. And then at
the bottom they write, teachers will be

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available via zoom if requested prior by
email. What does that mean? So

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if a kid is doing their assignment
today and they're stuck that it's too late

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to request a teacher help them,
what are the teacher are the teachers?

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Are the teachers there, like,
I don't know, catering for the two

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thousand folks that were moved in there? The hell are they doing that?

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They can't just teach a class that
they all learned how to do. So,

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No, they didn't just decide to
go remote learning. They went that

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whatever that ross I can remember the
name of it. What's the day where

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you were the teacher? Right?
And you just they didn't need legal I

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think those are called asynchronous days.
Asynchronous, that's the word I'm looking for.

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So they went they just they just
pulled an asynchronous day. Yeah.

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Yeah, that's gonna irritate some parents
for sure. All Right, I have

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a call here, Casey. What's
up. Hey? I just had a

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question of comment. You're you're talking
about the emailing and stuff like that.

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I think what they meant is you
email the teacher and then the teacher gets

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back to you on zoom after the
email. But my question was how long

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did they plan on having them in
the school? Was it for the rest

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of the year, was it for
the rest of the month. Was it

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just then they're moving them back out. Well, here's the problem. It

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Initially it was explained that it's because
of the storm. The problem is they

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hate it over there, and there's
a bunch of advocacy groups that because it's

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in it's temporary, it's like tent
housing, they feel that it's inhumane.

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So now activists are demanding they don't
move, and a bunch of the migrants

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are not keen on going back to
tent city, Ireland Island, which I

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guess I would understand this time of
the year a tent versus inside a physical

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building. But again I'm just flummoxed
at New York with all those buildings and

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all the resources and all the money
and everything. I understand things are cramped

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there, but just the sheer size
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overwhelming number, right, Like they
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it, which is why they're housing
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that during a storm that would be
a humanitarian issue, right, you don't

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want them how in the storm the
right, right, but put them in

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the Berkley Center, do you know
what I'm saying? Right, put them

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in you know, yeah, put
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I know that didn't work out great
in Houston post Katrina. There were some

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issues, but I get it.
And then that might be why they didn't

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do it, because they saw how
poorly that worked out well. But you

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could also you could also figure out
how to police that, right, because

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there's gonna there's look, there's gonna
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resources. You would agree to move
two thousand people likely to be regardless.

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Yeah, the resources are going to
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them. So if it's not where
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for months and it's just going to
be a day or two as as stated,

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And then I don't understand why you
couldn't utilize the uh the arenas there

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go to Madison Square Garden, you
know what I'm saying. And instead of

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instead of yeah, sure, pushing
them out of this school, that's the

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part I can't wrap my head around. And I understand why parents are med

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looking around at all these I'm a
teacher, Casey, and I will say

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this remote learning, especially for if
it's just a day or two, it's

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not that big of a process.
Yes, you get the simons. Teachers

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are available for a day or two
if that's how long they plan on doing

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it. It's not a hard thing
to do now, moving scheduling and stuff

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like that. For an arena where
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that might be a little tougher than
sending out a couple of Simons via

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Google Classroom. That's the way I
view that. All right, Well,

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I don't think every Arena's got a
Billy Joel concert today. I'm gonna meet

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you halfway because I think that here's
where the frustration lies. It's not the

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idea that because like I mean,
let's face, you're a teacher. You

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know how those days right ahead of
a vacation or at the end of the

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year, you are right like,
there's not a ton of learning going on

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usually, and it so people people, we're back, We're back. It's

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actually it's actually it's messer for us. Well, no, no, no,

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I'm not saying in your individual I'm
just saying in the generic sense me

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remembering my time as a school kid, like you know, there's certain times

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of the year where there's not a
lot going on, and if there is

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a day like you know where where
it has to haven't fine. But the

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problem is is that people who would
have been sympathetic to that, uh,

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they were lied to and they were
gas lit about the idea that there would

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be no learning loss for the kids. You know. That's and the beef

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isn't necessarily with the teachers, although
it isn't Randy Weingart and the Teachers' Union,

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but it's the idea that they were
told one thing, and then they

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were told not to believe it when
their kid is struggling, that it's anything

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but the kid's fault. That's what
irritated so many people. Instead of being

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adults and saying, look, this
isn't ideal and is going to be problems,

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but we've had to weigh the problems
and we feel this is the better

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solution. Instead they were told that
they hate teachers and they hate well.

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And you're talking about learning loss over
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as opposed to two to maybe five
days. But you understand what I mean.

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They're going to have a short possible
learn loss, but then they are

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able to recover that very quickly when
they get back with the teacher. But

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some of them, some of them, that hasn't. That actually hasn't been

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the case among the younger sets we've
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over a year and a half period, yes, that is much harder to

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recover, and I agree with you
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different situation than housing people for a
storm that's coming through and now is gone

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and then recover good. But once
you told a bunch of people that they're

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irrational and they're dumb, and that
they are they don't know what's happening with

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their own kid. People get a
lot less reasonable to hear you out.

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You know what I'm saying, right, But I also don't think this has

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anything to do with the learning loss
as much as it does immigration obviously,

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and that's another issue whenever you can't
and when you can't even agree on simple

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legislation to alleviate that Republican or Democrat. Yeah, again, there's there's a

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there's a range of emotions here.
But let's not pretend that that you know

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the previous, the previous remote learning. Like if you hadn't done all that

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and you just told they were doing
remote learning, I don't I think people

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would be like, well, let
me see what that's about, because they

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didn't know. Well now they know
absolutely, But when you have to do

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it for a year and a half, yes, it's not ideal. Nobody,

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nobody, even teachers, the people
that came up with that, would

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have said, yes, we would
rather do this than in person learning.

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No one ever, except for the
Chicago teacher lady. She was like,

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yeah, let's do this all the
time. That that one lady, that

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one person lady, that teachers union
got that the creepy look in Chicago mayor

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ousted, and then they got the
uh, the insane guy in so it

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was they were pretty powerful. All
right, I got a roll man,

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thank you very much for the call. So yeah, that's that's what's going

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on up there. But yeah,
I look again, if it was your

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first time hearing the words remote learning, like I think people would be all

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right, well, let's see if
this is just for a day. But

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now you've run into all these issues
like are they gonna what's gonna happen if

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they don't want to go back there
to the tent city? What are you?

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What are you going to do?
And then with all the crap that

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went down and all the the bs
the people were fed, they don't have

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the patience to hear you out when
you're doing that stuff. And you think

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that's unreasonable or reasonable, that's fine, but I at least understand why people

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are just done quote listening to the
experts and being told by their government better

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is what they're going to do.
That's that's there's there's there's a lot of

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fault here as to why we're here. And it doesn't just live with parents

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who people think are being irrational over
immigrat stuff. There's a lot more all

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right, eight eighteen CaCO Day Radio
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if you like. We're gonna have
to contextualize stuff. So you probably saw

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this story journalists joke about assassinating Trump
a kind of kind of I but not

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really, I know, I know, stupid me trying to actually you get

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the CaCO Day Radio Program and is
six thirty five, and everything is doomed,

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as we just found out together listening
to graduates, people who just brought

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diplomas bestowed upon them, explaining when
the country was founded, why you know,

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the independence? Who we declared it
from? You know, Thomas Jefferson,

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Abraham Lincoln and uh oh yeah,
the declaration of independence? Think about

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it, this monster? What did
he do? I declared like the freedom

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of the USI from who George Washington? From my mom from the British?

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Isn't he even George Washington to England? I mean technically George Washington was a

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citizen of England. But I'm not
even going to give that to her.

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So she's running that hot garbage.
She's in her graduation gown, holding her

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cap and has has more tasseling and
some other indicators on their meaning. In

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some way, shape or form,
she has she has exemplified herself from her

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peers. She's one of the smart
ones. Ross started to say it,

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but then we had to go to
break because you know, time management and

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stuff. And then him and I
talked about it off the air what he

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was getting into. He's he said, you know, there was a time

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when if you didn't know stuff,
then they didn't give you a diploma.

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And he's absolutely right. I'm sure
many of you might have experienced this in

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your life. So the way that
it worked in Wyoming was you went to

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school, you did your thing at
the school in Wyoming, and if you

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got if you were in the upper
echelon, you could have a score at

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the end of the year where even
if you at the end of your testing

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you didn't you failed them completely mathematically, you would still technically graduate, but

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you could tank your GPA doing that. Other students and the majority of students

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had to sit, had to hit
a certain number on that end of your

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testing to maintain their ability to graduate. And I and believe it. And

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there were some kids who didn't,
and you know what happened. They didn't

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graduate because the school went, you
don't know nothing, dummy, you need

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some more schooling. And that was
there were consequences for it. Is that

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Does that even happen today? I
don't think it does. I was.

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I was always put on like from
sixth grade to like my final year high

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school. I was always put on
like the fast like the AP courses,

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like the base place and the enrichment
courses. Yes, I remember, and

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for some reason that that include did
like AP science and AP Physics, and

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I should not have been in those
classes because I'm so bad at math,

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like I was, like I was
good at like English and history and that

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sort of stuff. So I remember
sitting there. My final year high school

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was easy because I had already gotten
rid of all the classes. It was

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like such a super easy year.
Yeah. Yeah, but that eleventh like

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eleventh grade, I remember sitting there
taking that AP Chemistry final and being like

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I need to pass this to graduate
to go on to my next year.

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I was terrifying. What was the
issue the entire course? Like, I

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don't know, it was I just
should not have been there. I got

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like, that's the only course that
I've ever gotten, like A D N.

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Everything else was always like B plus
A minus states statistics. Oh god,

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it was. And I remember sitting
there, I should not be in

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this class, but but I was
able to. But the math worked and

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I tested well. And you're right, you know, like even you didn't

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have to be one hundred percent in
every academic field, right, that is

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correct? It was it was they
were trying to They were attempting to garner

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the totality of knowledge that you've consumed
in your ability to learn. Yeah,

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but I have friends that are like
really stressed, right, stressed about graduating.

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I had. I had a friend
who did not graduate. We all

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left, he stayed. He ended
up doing a summer thing, and he

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was able to get it because they
had that was a possibility rather than having

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to do another year. And it
was a combination of you know, learn

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learning one this thing. He really
didn't have any aspirations and eventually he just

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you know, his thing was,
I'm just doing this because I got to

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do it and I'll take over the
family rain. He's good guy, that's

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what he does to this day.
But like he didn't graduate with us because

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that was the consequences for it.
These these these are individuals, and what

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I'm told is a vaunted school system, a school system that should be admired

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and funded in the same way that
we should chase after. And they think

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that we declared independence from Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and Abe Lincoln. I

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have a lot of questions, although
I don't because I like, I get

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why we're here, but then it
permeates into I guess government, right,

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because I'm sure a bunch of them
will get a government job. And they

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were asso go the DMV, and
that's who he's got to deal with.

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Of course, those people are going
to help other people cheat on a test,

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you know what I'm saying. They
got, they got, They got

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shamed by a microphone in Times Square
after the graduation ceremony. Oh my goodness.

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But I guess they're easier to control
like that. I bet they know

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all the Kardashians' actual birth dates.
I bet they know every one of their

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birthdates. They probably know all of
the various surgeries they've had too, every

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single one. They know all the
real housewives name and bios. Oh yeah,

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that's where we are, and that's
how you can convince people stuff like

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do you see what the Chicago Mayor's
doing? Now? Check this out.

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So the mayor of Chicago, Brandon
Johnson, Right, this is the guy

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they bring in because they ousted the
the the chick the from Lord of the

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Rings who just wanted the ring gull
them or whatever is that? Oh they're

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not saying, Okay, they're not
the same person. I'm being told anyway,

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So the school, basically the teachers
union, got her run because she

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wouldn't just give them all the money. So they went and they found a

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dude who's even nuttier. And as
Chicago has continued to dwindle in u crime

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enforcement and liveability and has fallen into
the same Hey, if people are just

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gonna loot, we're not even going
to prosecute mindsets. Stores are moving out,

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and that includes Walmart pulling out,
Whole Food's pulled out, and now

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they have a little bit of a
food desert crisis. They can't figure out

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how they got into it. They
don't have grocery stores in a lot of

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these areas. So Brandon Johnson,
the mayor, rather than creating an environment

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through law enforcement where people want to
do business, I promise you, if

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you are in the business of selling
selling stuff, you want the ability to

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place your store inside densely populated areas. I don't know if you understand how

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this works. Right, So,
if I got a store, if Ross

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has a store selling whatever, Ross
sells mugs or giant inflatables or whatever,

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and he has a choice between putting
that store in the center of the shopping

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district of wake Forest, or he's
got to put that store into field out

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in the middle of the other side
of Rollsville. Where do you want the

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store? Right location, location,
location, right right, you want try,

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you want people around. That's where
he's putting the store. Is that

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the far It is not the old
store. It's the store in the middle

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of the shopping district. So people
will see the store and they'll say,

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whow it's in that store. It
maybe go in there and spend money.

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I mean probably not. It's a
giant inflatable of me to be vandalized.

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That's one of our biggest sellers.
I'm sure it is. I'm sure it's

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right there in the window. Got
one on the roof too, just flying

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around in the wind. Crazy town. So like, that's a no brainer.

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Stores want to be in there.
So what is his solution Rather than

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enforcing laws and all that and protecting
the investment that has made when you place

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a store because it's not cheap in
a densely populated area, He's announced that

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they want to open government run grocery
stores. Can you think of a better

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grocery store then a government run grocery
store. So they got rid of the

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crap mayor. She was horrible.
They elected this crazy moon bat socialist right

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communists, realmar and all these stores
are like, hey, we got to

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leave because y'all keep stealing and we
can't really enforce a law because a nice

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because they're racist, right, yeah, it's a racist of capitalism. So

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then they leave, right, and
then the socialist mayor is like, hey,

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what we need is socialism and breadlines. Yeah, literal government stores.

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You ever been in a government store? Government cheese? As a kid,

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It was amazing, But I've been
in a government store. There's you know

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some countries you go to where the
government runs the store. We just we

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run the liquor stores here, but
they run the store and even if you've

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never been in one, go watch
a video of what it looks like inside.

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And I don't mean when they the
one that they show the reporters in

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North Korea, but the actual store. There's video of it that Lisa Ling's

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sister caught or in Cuba. In
Cuba, you go into a store and

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like, you go into the aisle
and there's one thing and I don't mean

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it's I don't mean it's the pasta
isle, like, oh, look at

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all the different you know, where
there's one hundred different varieties and six different

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manufacturers, and then the sauce.
I mean, for the government was able

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to get a hold of gorilla penne
pasta right they got to they were able

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to get a shipment of it,
and so the whole aisle is that just

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that it's so funny. You see
this meme, I know, I know

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you've seen it. It goes around
social media and it'll show like a grocery

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store and it'll be in whatever is
like the pasta isle, yes, and

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it'll be like, you know,
fifty different versions of pasta as we have

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here in the States. And then
the socialists who posts the meme will be

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like, oh, look, this
is all capitalism could do for us.

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There's like fifty different versions of the
same thing. Yeah, it's like you

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know what though, dude, that
coet that you know, competition is good.

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It keeps prices low, it's opposed
to anyway. And then you have

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like different you can things you can
choose from as opposed to what you said.

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Yes, you go in there and
you're like, well, that's your

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bread, that's your pasta if we
have it, yeah, if you have

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it, and and it may be
the only carb in there, because all

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they're aiming for is to represent roughly
the totality of needs. And then you

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go in like, go over the
butcher. What does the butcher have?

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The only thing the butcher has,
for some reason is chicken thighs. That's

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it. I guess you're having some
sort of chicken thigh pasta tonight. Enjoy

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your food. Remember when, like
you had the supplying chain issue during COVID

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and they're putting up fake pictures of
stuff and people were like freaking out and

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they're like, oh my god,
I went to go get whatever at the

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grocery store and they only had wand
or they had none. Well, this

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is what you're asking for all the
time under the system. Yeah, Columbia

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was a little like this Columbia,
and they're not that their government run,

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but they are so fixed on controls
and they deal with such poverty is use

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from a supply chain that I went
into Exitoe. Exitoe is the name of

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the grocery store chain there. And
it's crazy because you go into an aisle

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and look like a normal American aisle, but then you'll go into another aisle

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and it's clear that they're having trouble
getting oils like vegetable oils, sunflower oils,

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all that. So they just have
ex oil whatever it is over there.

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And so that in and of itself
is a limiting factor because the government

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monkeys with the trade stuff. Now
they're running the whole damn grocery store,

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and of course it'll be government employees
there, and I mean that in the

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sense that they'll probably have to pay
them way more in the city of Chicago

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than the normal grocery store. And
people will go, well, that's good,

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they're making a living wage. Well
they're not one. They're not incentivized

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too. It will not operate like
a normal grocery store in three What happens

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when people just come in and loot
that store? Will they actually enforce it

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because now you're stealing for the they
will. Yeah, yeah, that now

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you're going to prison, they will. And then the other grocery store chains.

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The few that are there going,
well, screw this noise, because

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now they can steal from me.
And you don't do anything, but they

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steal your thing, and then you're
now all of a sudden, you're Johnny

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Law. I'm out of here.
The best example I saw how to stop

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this crap? Uh is this where
you want to taser everybody again? Uh?

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Nope, you know under Hayes for
sheriff administration, that would happen.

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Okay, all right, probably a
lot. You're all gonna you're all gonna

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pay and gets. It's that video
that went around a few months ago of

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the convenience store where the guy just
comes in with the trash bin. The

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trash can starts like, you know, emptying the shelves, and you have

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those like shakes or whatever, like
who just beat him down with a cane?

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Yeah? Yea with a stick,
Like you know, I'm saying,

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these like Walmarts and the whole foods
there in Chicago. If you had somebody

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standing there at the exit with a
big cane and whenever people would leave like

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hey, I'm stealing all his food, if you beat them down repeatedly with

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the cain. Now listen to this, it worked. It was effective.

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Yeah. Did you say sheikhs?
Yeah, this seeks seeks? Oh wrong?

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Oh you said sheiks? Like no, I understood what you're saying.

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But then I'm like, did he
say sheiks or seeks? Yeah? No,

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no, but guys with a stick, yes, doesn't matter. Stick,

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guys, the poor thing is the
stick. Yeah. I don't don't

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care what's to use the stick.
I don't care what your race is,

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what your religion is, what your
gender is, what your sex is,

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if that doesn't even exist anymore.
In this story is can you wield the

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stick on the person stealing the things? Stick of justice? Oh, it's

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doomed. It's not the only thing
that's doomed, but it's you know,

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it's one of the big things that's
doomed this morning, so doomed. We'll

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be back, Thank you. Casey
is on ninety four to five w PTI

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and the Triad and one six one
FM Talk in the Triangle. All right,

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good morning and welcome back in his
seven twenty six kco Day radio program.

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Want to be super duper annoyed?
Oh well, allow me. You

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know that governor of ours, Governor
Roy Cooper probably aware, yeah, so,

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uh, you all have been calling
them the wrong name, a bunch

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of dummies. I guess I'm actually
on that list too. For no reason

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that I can understand. This was
a thing that took place during a press

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conference this week, and I don't
know why I find it so grading and

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annoying, but I do put the
sound in between the C and the P.

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We're hooked on phonics today, all
right, Cooper, So it's not

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ooh Cooper, it's like foot,
that's the So this whole time, when

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you know, not just during his
uh you know, his time as governor,

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right, but also as Attorney General, as a lawmaker in the General

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Assembly, the whole time, everyone's
been calming the wrong name. Sure it

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is absolutely isn't that right? Ross
hyas hyah I was pronounced hy yes,

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yes, And it's not Joe dirty, it's Joe Durtey. All right,

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good morning everybody, and are welcome
and happy Thursday to you. It is

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eight o seven. Glad to have
you along here on the CaCO Day Radio

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program. It has uh, it's
been a little while with the vacation and

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some scheduling stuff since we chatted with
the Lieutenant governor yes yesterday. We had

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to move him to today, but
we're gonna do this thing and Mark good

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morning to you, sir. How
you doing? Hey, Kathy, how

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are you doing? I'm pretty good? And uh, since it has been

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a while, lord knows, the
laundry list of things I want to talk

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to you about has has built up. But I got to start here and

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and let me, let me,
let me put this. Let me put

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this somewhat self from a self deprecation
standpoint, but lightly if you and I

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were members of the Donner Party,
we wouldn't starve to death. First,

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do you know what I'm saying?
Like, Yeah, okay, all right,

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so uh at kudos. I know
you're doing the gym thing, but

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let's say, look, we deal
in honesty here on the show. And

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I know then that if I want
to take myself, or if it was

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you and I want to go to
a theater and get a high top barstool

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and put it in literally in front
of other patrons. I'm probably going to

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get talked to by staff at the
at the theater. Yet, for some

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reason, the former NAACP head,
the Reverend William Barber, he he feels

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it's it's it's akin to, you
know, a sixty zero civil rights struggle,

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and the media just laps this stuff
up. But I don't know what's

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what's your take on all this insanity. I'm sure you saw the story over

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the break I did, and it's
just another attempt just to continue to be

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an eternal victim, to try to
break the law. It's not about being

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equal. It's about being special,
always about making up your own rooms.

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00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:04.239
It's about not following along with with
with with any type of social moras.

409
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.079
It's just about I'm gonna do exactly
what I want to do, and if

410
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.719
you don't let me do it,
I'm gonna claim to be a victim and

411
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.840
I'm gonna sue the pants off of
you, because, uh, this is

412
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.400
all about me being special. This
is not about me doing the right thing.

413
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:21.920
This guy doesn't have a single solitary
leg to stand on when it comes

414
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:27.920
to this that theater provides handicapped seating
it makes exceptions for folks. Uh,

415
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:34.599
it gives you every opportunity. Uh, it makes uh provides every opportunity provided

416
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.679
by the law. And he just
wants to be special and just wants to

417
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:43.480
get attention and just wants to cry
victim of status all the time. Completely

418
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:45.559
ridiculous. Of course, the media
is gonna go along with it, because

419
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:50.039
as you've seen most of our news
media right now, it's totally complicit in

420
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:54.400
it's booishness. Yeah, well,
it's just it's just a failure to process

421
00:36:54.440 --> 00:37:00.800
something so so simple, like as
like I think if you removed who it

422
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.199
was and you just showed somebody a
picture of a high top stool in front

423
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.760
of low top seating with people behind
there, they'd go, maybe that's not

424
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:12.519
a quote reasonable accommodation. And the
problem is that you and I both know

425
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:16.199
how the conversation played out. Some
staff member who doesn't want to be dealing

426
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:21.519
with this, right they are just
you know, there is a minimum wage

427
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:27.840
job for them or they're thereabouts,
goes in there. And I suspected if

428
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.039
somebody escalated it based on what I've
seen with that video where Barber was on

429
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:37.599
the plane and others that he was
the one who escalated this and the fallout

430
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:42.599
then is any of the staff there, but also the police officer who when

431
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:46.079
they show up to do a trespass, they don't care why you're getting trespassed.

432
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:50.800
If it is illegal, the courts
will remedy that. But police are

433
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.800
just there to do paperwork and leave. And yet now those officers and those

434
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:59.440
staff members are the object of ire
to some of Barber's supporters. And I

435
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:04.199
don't know what they wanted them to
do. Well again, Casey, it's

436
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:06.559
not what they want them to do. They want them to do what they

437
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:08.440
want them to do. Now,
the sheoe was on the other foot.

438
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:12.599
He was a theater owner and he
was calling the police O someone who was

439
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.719
breaking the rules. He would want
the police to follow the rules, and

440
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.480
he would be demonstrative in them wanting
to follow the rules. So again,

441
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:24.320
it's not about it's not about anything
except getting their way. I want to

442
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:28.559
get my way. I don't care
what the rules are. I'm going to

443
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.880
break the rules because this is not
about equality. This is about me being

444
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:37.239
special. It's about me being a
victim. It's about me being able to

445
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.360
sue the pass all of you because
I'm special in a victim. Just total

446
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.880
total movecy and greed is what it
really boils down to. Well, it

447
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.159
is. It is beyond frustrating when
when you sit there and you see the

448
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:54.480
same canard work over and over and
it's just and it's just so logical in

449
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:59.320
one's mind. And by the way, let me say this, Mark and

450
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:05.239
I'm I'm I'm having any guests because
I don't know who is he obstructing to.

451
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:07.679
This is the other thing. So
if he's obstructing patrons who are watching

452
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:14.880
the movie and it's a showing of
the color purple, I guess horrible racist

453
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.199
me just assumes that there's a higher
likelihood that the people he's obstructing are people

454
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:24.760
of color. Absolutely Again, another
reason why it points to him not caring

455
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:29.480
about the rules. I don't care, But he does not care about the

456
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:34.880
rules. He cares about getting his
way, about making his point about ultimately,

457
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:39.440
ultimately about making our case. And
the case is going to boil down

458
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.920
to money extortion. That's why,
Casey, it is so important for us

459
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:50.280
to have leaders in positions or not
leaders, but represent this in positions of

460
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:58.239
authority. Governors, the governors,
mayors who stand up firmly against this because

461
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.840
when folks stand up against it,
when those folks that are they're on the

462
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.480
news, who have those microphones,
who have those seats, when they stand

463
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.960
up and say this is not right
and we're not gonna stand by those people

464
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:13.760
who oftentimes will be solid that majority, who are solid because everybody a lot

465
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:15.639
of other people are going along with
it, they'll stand up and say,

466
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.519
you know what, that's absolutely right. We're not gonna stand up for this.

467
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.559
And I believe that's how you stand
up against it. You stand up

468
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:25.639
against it by having people at the
very beginning, those people in those positions

469
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:30.320
are so called authority who stand up
to say we're something not gonna put up

470
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:32.840
with this. Judges, lawyers,
others who stand up firmly against it.

471
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:37.840
Those political leaders, those folks that
got to stand up and make their voices

472
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.239
heard and say we're not gonna stand
by this type of boosts. Now,

473
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:45.880
let's let's talk about people thinking they
can do whatever they want. There's different

474
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:50.239
versions of this. There is Barber
getting to have his Karen moment there in

475
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:55.800
the theater, but there's also something
that I think sadly factors into this tragic

476
00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:02.079
story in Greensboro, where a Greensboro
Police Office officer was killed, Sergeant Philip

477
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:07.599
Nix, Dale Nick. Sergeant Dale
Nix, who was not on duty,

478
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:13.639
I who had spent you know,
most of his adult life serving the community

479
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:16.719
of Greensboro in a variety of capacities, who just happened to be at his

480
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:22.199
favorite sheets, sitting out on the
bench as people do, and he sees

481
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:27.559
he sees these three individuals parking a
handicap obviously as close to the door as

482
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.079
possible, and come hauling out of
there with a bunch of cases, the

483
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:35.679
modello, eighty three dollars worth of
beer. And the moment Nix goes over

484
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:37.880
to you know, ask about it
because two of them are under age and

485
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:44.559
appear to be underage, he gets
five bullets flung at him through the window

486
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:50.719
and he's killed. And you know, it has those it has that vibe

487
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:54.880
of those videos received where people just
go and loot a store, take whatever

488
00:41:54.920 --> 00:42:00.599
they want, don't give a damn, And it irks me. Then when

489
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:07.840
I see politicians who seem to be
permissive of this trend issuing tweets in support

490
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:12.440
of as we saw. So obviously
this is your hometown. Let's talk about

491
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:16.039
Greensboro. The community, how they're
feeling. And also the fact that it

492
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:21.639
was a record year for murders,
yes last year, So talk to me,

493
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:23.960
well, you know, I you
know, I'm not gonna say I

494
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:28.159
hate to say this, but the
fact of the matter of this, this

495
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:31.920
goes directly on the head of Greensboro
City Council. The Greensboro City Council when

496
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:37.800
it comes to police and has done
a terrible job. Terrible They have taken

497
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:43.599
the city backwards. The city of
Greensboro used to be a nationwide example of

498
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:47.159
what police could be. The police
Chink of Greensboro at one time was the

499
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:52.199
head of the National Police Chiefs Association. We had a shining star for a

500
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:59.079
police organization right in Greensboro, North
Carolina. But since we started this whole

501
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:02.760
anti police movement, the left that
start this whole anti police movement, the

502
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:07.159
city of Greensboro has been right there
with them, The entire council's leftists.

503
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:10.519
They don't stand with the police.
They don't give them what they need to

504
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:15.639
be proactive in fighting crime. They
don't stand by them. They didn't stand

505
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:20.639
by them during the riots that we
have and now we are seeing the effects.

506
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:24.440
We're seeing the effects is trickly.
Now it's hit Greensboro, it's hit

507
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:30.199
Raleigh, it's hit Winston, it's
hit all these areas. These politicians who

508
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:35.519
have swayed over these police agencies,
they don't back them up, they don't

509
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.119
give them what they need to be
proactive in fighting crime. They're not pro

510
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:43.360
police. And now the effects are
shown and the effects are chilling. Then

511
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:47.840
you couple down long cases with these
weak das that continue to let these criminals

512
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:52.599
be in in this revolving door crime. But what I understand, these suspects

513
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:57.960
had lengthy criminal records, which is
not their work. Grow. Yeah,

514
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:02.079
want to be clear, one of
them did, and then uh, the

515
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:07.559
other two I wouldn't describe as lengthy, although there is some juvenile stuff that

516
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:09.880
we're probably not privy to. But
yes, no, it was uh for

517
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:14.320
the for the main suspect. Yeah, there's a there's a whole there's a

518
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:20.280
whole litany of stuff and yeah,
yeah right, and these these these week

519
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:22.119
days, and let's take it to
the state level too, with some of

520
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:25.639
these laws that we have where we
have to police officers have to call Raley

521
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:30.960
in order to uh, in order
to arrest juveniles and all all types of

522
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:35.360
all manners of things, but the
way we have handcuffed police officers, the

523
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:38.440
way we are demonized the police officers, the way the press is complicit in

524
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:43.320
all this, it is a recipe
for disaster. And folks like me have

525
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.000
been saying that from the very beginning. You want to continue to degenerate law

526
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:52.760
enforcement, You're going to continue to
allow our societies and our communities to degenerate

527
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:55.400
into violence. And this is an
example of it, a sad examp of

528
00:44:55.440 --> 00:45:00.039
it, and we need to hurry
up and turn it around. We need

529
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:05.320
people in place or are going to
stand all the platform and say we stand

530
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:09.280
firmly behind law enforcement. We are
going to give law enforcement what they need

531
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:15.159
to be proactive in fighting crime,
and we are not going to put criminals

532
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:20.079
on a revolving door of crime.
If you commit these crimes, you will

533
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.519
be punished to the high extent of
the law. It needs to come from

534
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:27.800
the high offices. And right now
it's not sadly. Somebody sent me an

535
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:30.480
email said, yes, you're acting
like prior to these changes that there was

536
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:35.440
never somebody who wanted to steal something
and fell okay to fire at police.

537
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:39.039
No we're not saying that, but
the more deterrence, the more situation,

538
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:45.679
The more situations and I'll call them
small situations right where somebody's running in grabbing

539
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:50.239
a case of beer, the more
where you have that that scenario play out

540
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:55.039
means there is more possibilities for law
enforcement to then interact with those individuals.

541
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:59.000
So if they feel that they can
go ahead and do it, this,

542
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.639
unfortunately was the escalation in this case. And it's just mind boggling over eighty

543
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:07.039
three dollars worth of beer. But
that's the difference here. It's not that

544
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:12.760
there weren't dirt to begin with,
it's how you do said dirt bags.

545
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:19.039
So absolutely, we're talking about we're
talking about suspects now who fire on police

546
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:23.119
officers because they've got a suspended driver's
license or because they just simply feel like

547
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:28.440
they can do it. We're talking
about suspects now who just simply ignore police

548
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.440
officers when they're driving down the street
with their tags out of gate, speeding

549
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:36.239
and the police officers put the blue
lights on and they just continue to run.

550
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:39.519
We're talking about an escalating thing here. Back in the nineteen twenties and

551
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:44.639
nineteen thirties, crime was going to
the roof. You saw all types manner

552
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.719
of criminals. And it gave us
pauls and said, hey, we've got

553
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:52.039
to start giving police officers what they
need. Because police officers were outgunned,

554
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.920
they were out Now it made us
realize crime is on the rise. We

555
00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.960
have to fight back. We have
to give police officers what they need to

556
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.679
fight back. Right now we're in
the exact opposite situation. All police have

557
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.679
what they need. We're taking it
away from it. Taken it away from

558
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.239
them, an allow of crime to
ride the deal. It's like this lunacy.

559
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.599
It's like something you see on the
Twilight Zone. Quite frankly, that's

560
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:19.320
funny. I was just watching Toilet
Zone yesterday, and it would it would

561
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:22.039
make an interesting episode. I'm The
problem I have, too, is with

562
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:27.719
headlines like this, Mark, eighteen
year old charge with murder could face death

563
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:32.599
penalty. Nobody does anybody really face
the death penalty in North Carolina anymore?

564
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:37.079
I mean, I understand from a
parade a procedural standpoint, but anti death

565
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:43.920
penalty advocates have been successful in creating
this stalemate that we've been in for what

566
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:46.599
fifteen years, you know, something
like that when we were still working in

567
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:51.519
that direction, and I haven't seen
energy on the part of lawmakers on the

568
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:54.280
right or the left to say,
all right, we need to settle this

569
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:58.559
once and for all. Either we
have a death penalty or we don't.

570
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.760
So I'm curious where you're at on
this. Well, it just to me,

571
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:05.840
it just all depends. I think. You know. My saying about

572
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:09.079
the death penalty is, uh,
if you're a Susan Smith, if you're

573
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:13.199
a Jeffrey Dahler, you should get
the death penalty. If there's heads in

574
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:15.159
the fraser, yeah, let's go
ahead and pull the death penalty out.

575
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.480
If you admit it that you rolled
your children into a lake and drown them,

576
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:23.079
yeah, the death penalty should be
on the type. Unfortunately, neither

577
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:28.199
of those individuals received the death penalty. Uh So that gives me, Paul

578
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:36.599
kind of kind of But I am
not against the death Yeah, I'm not

579
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.920
against the death penalty at all.
It's just I'm completely against the way it

580
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:44.880
is administered. I think there are
people who get it that don't necessarily deserve

581
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:47.400
it, and there are others who
should definitely get it who don't. Well,

582
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:51.239
this is this is why you gotta
have a fundamental conversation. Look,

583
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:54.840
I know people are conservative, and
their objection to the death penalty is it's

584
00:48:54.960 --> 00:49:00.920
the individual against the power of the
state, which is which is not a

585
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:05.920
bad discussion or argument, but just
letting It's like the statue removal. I

586
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.480
only got about a minute. We
have laws, we have these procedures,

587
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:15.639
and now we have these quasi gray
area situations where individuals, judges or the

588
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.320
governor, like with the statues,
where they're just able to come in and

589
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:21.440
go, yeah, I know what
it says, but here's what we're gonna

590
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:27.119
do. So that's what irritates me. Pick a lane and I'm with you.

591
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:30.039
Heads in the freezer I think is
a good escalator. I would think

592
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:36.519
murdering a police officer is another good
So you know, maybe maybe that needs

593
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:39.400
to be a discussion and one last
thing before we get out of here.

594
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:45.679
I'm seeing the political pundits and experts
that are that are weighing in saying that

595
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:52.519
candidates, especially statewide candidates in North
Carolina, conservative candidates are not going to

596
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:59.199
do well if they're making abortion a
big issue, and so the recommendation is

597
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:04.400
Republican CA candidates should probably just stay
away from it. What do you think

598
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.480
when you hear advice or seepolling like
that because obviously you're running the state wide

599
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.239
race, so I got one minute, you know, you know in case.

600
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:14.480
The only thing I think when I
hear that is the media is trying

601
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:17.599
to just trying to put fear into
our hearts. As conservatives and of those

602
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:21.880
who believe in life, they're trying
to put fear in our hearts, and

603
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:24.280
unfortunately it's working with a lot of
folks. It's not working with me.

604
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:29.519
I'm not afraid. We're gonna continue
to stand on our premise of standing for

605
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:53.960
life. That's what we're gonna do. Happy Friday, Every Friday Friday,

606
00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:59.880
and it is the final hour of
the week. I'm telling you, for

607
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:05.920
day work weeks, this is what
we need. Happy. Everyone is Pete

608
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.280
Calender. He's a He's generally in
a good mood. I'm kidding. If

609
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:14.159
you follow him on Twitter, people
are insane and he's calling him out,

610
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:16.280
but he joins us now as he
usually does. How you doing, sir?

611
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:22.679
I'm doing all right? How are
you again? I'm just happy.

612
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:28.119
I think four day work weeks we're
onto something and just keep this report.

613
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.280
I'm not you know what we can
do the thing where we do it and

614
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:37.440
then we claim it was our idea. So like the croissant, yeah yeah,

615
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:43.519
right, they yeah, they made
this very nice pastry thing that's light

616
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:45.639
and fluffy, and then we just
like slapped some cheese and ham, wrap

617
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:50.719
it in wax paper and throw it
into people's cars. I'm sorry, a

618
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:53.239
croissant with some country ham in there, the real salty stuff. Oh yeah,

619
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:58.239
yeah, yeah, French didn't know
what they had till it was gone.

620
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:01.000
Right, that's fine, We'll go
ahead and handle that. Man.

621
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:07.840
Uh, dude, I gotta tell
you, it's crazy. You know,

622
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:09.840
some years when we get back,
you know, into the new year,

623
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:15.480
there's it could be a bit of
a grind. It's insane. It's been

624
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:20.800
insane since we cracked the mic on
Tuesday, and it's like, all the

625
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:24.679
good, all the all the craziness
that happened, uh during the course of

626
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:29.840
vacation was almost enough, almost enough
to get me to one back, want

627
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:34.480
to come back and do a show, not the least of which is the

628
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:39.360
William Barber story. And uh,
and let me before we get into this,

629
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:44.639
but you obviously, like me and
like most people consuming the story,

630
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:51.840
have probably digested the details and even
though it is speculation, in your mind.

631
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:55.239
You probably have your own how you
think it went down, right,

632
00:52:55.320 --> 00:53:00.440
because I do, yeah, And
I based it on history, the videos

633
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:07.000
I've seen of Barber going all Karen
on an airplane. You remember that just

634
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:12.199
just the rest of this and the
logic leap that is required if you're going

635
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:16.800
to report on this to ignore the
chair in question, as outlets did.

636
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:21.639
So my theory is this, you
tell me if I'm if I'm missing some

637
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:24.119
if you think I'm wrong. He
went in there, he had his chair,

638
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:29.840
as he does. And the chair
is a high top like barstool chair.

639
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:36.280
And in many and in theaters,
the handicap area tends to live in

640
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:40.079
that middle area where you enter,
generally carved out of whatever row would be

641
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:45.360
there. And and in some instances
there's a big wall behind it, but

642
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:50.719
in most that I've seen, it's
the same height. It just has there's

643
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:52.519
no chairs there, so people with
wheelchairs can get in there or whatever.

644
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.119
So if you were to set up
there, and it's and it's in the

645
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:58.719
middle of things, so if you
set up there, you're going to be

646
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:04.679
blocking people. And and I so
in my opinion, he rolled in with

647
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:07.480
the chair, I might add,
which it's I think it's weird that nobody

648
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:13.960
said anything before set it up.
Obviously there's a problem. The employee who

649
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:16.039
doesn't want to be there, who
doesn't want to deal with this, went

650
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:20.760
in and is like, hey,
this is this is not going to work.

651
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:27.239
And it it went from zero to
sixty in in five seconds, in

652
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:32.920
my opinion, probably with Barber taking
great umbrage to this how dare you when

653
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:39.719
in reality I get that he has
physical issues, and I also get that

654
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:45.559
maybe some reasonable accommodations which you know, the words, could have been found.

655
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:47.960
But I don't think that it got
to get to that point. I

656
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:52.519
think he was told no and wigged
out, and then you know, made

657
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:57.159
the statements and how this is for
the kids and how dare you and then

658
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:02.519
took this thing to the media as
yet another another case of wild racism and

659
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:07.760
an injustice. And in reality,
you got an employee probably doesn't want to

660
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:09.199
come talk to him, doesn't want
to deal with this. You got a

661
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:14.559
police officers coming out to do a
simple trespass. They don't care the story.

662
00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:16.599
That's for the courts to figure out, and that's how we get to

663
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:22.840
where we are today. What do
you use right? So when this happened.

664
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:28.000
I was on vacation during that week
when this when the story first broke,

665
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:31.320
so I didn't come to it until
after until this week, and so

666
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:34.880
I saw it and I, you
know, bookmarked, and I was like,

667
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:37.920
I come back and read this.
So the first time I saw the

668
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:43.480
story and saw the video, I
should say, was I played it during

669
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:45.880
my live stream and I was like, let me just see the video.

670
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:51.320
And I thought at first, like
I said, here's my initial impression before

671
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:52.760
I've even seen the video. I
said, maybe it's like one of these

672
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:57.199
fold out chairs, because one of
the key elements to me in this story

673
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:01.920
is that he has an assistant that
walks around with him with the chair.

674
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:07.320
I kill somebody. I had no
idea, I mean, and the first

675
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:10.400
thing I thought was like, surely
this is like a fold out chair.

676
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:14.800
It's one of those like camp chairs
but for really large people or something.

677
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:19.880
And surely, yeah, surely you're
not. You have not put somebody on

678
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:24.800
payroll that thinks they're getting a job
in you know, social justice, civil

679
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:29.760
rights activism and they're going to make
a difference in the world, and they're

680
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:31.800
like, here, carry this chair. And so then I see the chair

681
00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:37.000
and I admit I had never seen
the chair before. And it's like a

682
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:43.079
full on high top barstools, solid
wood chair. It's like it's something you

683
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:47.239
would see at like an island in
a kitchen. You know, it's pretty

684
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:51.000
heavy duty. And now I feel
bad for the assistance, Like, I

685
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:54.280
just like this person they're going to
need a chair themselves because they're carrying around

686
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:59.440
this thing for however many years following
Barber all over the place with the chair.

687
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:00.440
So then sorry, So that was
the first thing I thought, bad

688
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:04.519
for the assistance. I've never seen
the chair. And then I start thinking

689
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:07.639
through, Okay, we'll wait a
minute. This guy is going to drag

690
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:10.360
this chair in. First, how
did he get it through the security in

691
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:14.400
the lobby? Like do you like, do you drag it up there while

692
00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:16.320
you get your popcorn and soda?
And nobody says, hey, what are

693
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:20.519
you doing with this chair? Nobody
thinks to ask on the front end.

694
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:24.760
Then he gets down into the area
and what you've just outlined where the disabled

695
00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:30.760
seating is, the handicapped seating is
in a theater is exactly where my mind

696
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:34.360
went to. And no, you
don't get to sit in a chair that

697
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:38.280
blocks everybody behind you. From seeing
the movie, because they're not you know,

698
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:42.199
they always put them like you said, they have like that center like

699
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:45.119
halfway up. They've got like a
center aisle or whatever. There's no grade

700
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:49.239
change which is off right. It's
obviously where you put it where there's no

701
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:52.519
grade change other than the right.
Then you can't go up the stairs right,

702
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:54.199
so you've got to be at that
lower part where there's like the ramps,

703
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:57.960
and then they put they they usually
they just ripped out a bunch of

704
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:00.920
chairs, you know, ten fifteen
years ago, dot a bunch of chairs

705
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:05.000
and just gave like this flat area
at the base so people could you know,

706
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:07.719
park their wheelchairs there. And everybody
is fine with that. Now.

707
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:08.559
I don't know why they could have
just said, well, why don't we

708
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:13.039
just slide you over to the side, you know, we'll put you over

709
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:15.719
here. But I'm and that's why
I'm I. It had to have it

710
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:21.880
had to have escalated so quickly because
that seems like a reasonable thing. And

711
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:24.119
frankly, if I was the guy
with the chair, I would be cognizant

712
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:28.519
enough that that is where I try
to set up right, And then maybe

713
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:30.119
maybe they have an objection because they're
like, oh, you're blocking an aisle,

714
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:34.119
it's a fire thing whatever. But
like it doesn't sound like any of

715
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:37.199
that conversation happened. It was just
you can't do this, and he's like,

716
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.599
how dare you? And and here
we here we are right. And

717
00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:45.960
also, like you said, the
person who was interacting with this with Barber,

718
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:51.079
uh probably minimum wage a little bit
above, you know, they,

719
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.320
like you said, they don't want
to be having this this interaction. And

720
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:57.840
people asked me, oh, do
you think that this was a setup?

721
00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:00.480
Do you think that this was staged? And I don't owned for one reason,

722
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:04.800
I think the video would have started
rolling earlier. Yeah, no,

723
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.480
that's fair. Well, unless there
was nothing productive there, you know what

724
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:12.239
I mean? Yeah, maybe yeah, maybe they're maybe they did roll tape

725
00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:15.320
earlier and it didn't it didn't,
you know, make him look good,

726
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:19.199
and so they chopped it out and
sent it out that way. That's possible

727
00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:22.239
as well. But I look,
I tried to get people the benefit of

728
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:27.320
the doubt. But like you said, given Barber's past record, I have,

729
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:30.119
you know, I have little doubt
he wants to make this into a

730
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:34.119
much larger thing, because that is
what he does with virtually everything. And

731
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:37.360
I know that that's his goal.
But even like I even try to look

732
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:39.480
at this and just remove the politics
from it and just be like he just

733
00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:43.719
he went off Karen. He went
Karen on an employee. He was telling

734
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:45.800
him. No, I mean,
it's as simple as that, because he's

735
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:50.199
got the ego from what I've seen, and that's you know, that ego

736
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:52.960
tends to be a factor in so
many of these stories where they're like,

737
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:55.519
you know who I am. He
just has he did just because of his

738
00:59:55.599 --> 01:00:00.920
profession, he is able to rom
a manual that and not let it go

739
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:05.440
to waste. So yez, yeah, yeah, I am curious as to

740
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:07.840
like he says, oh, I've
brought this chair everywhere, and like,

741
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:12.719
okay, first off, you have
not brought the chair everywhere. Somebody else

742
01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:15.199
has dragged this chair everywhere for you. I just feel like, I'm not

743
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:20.519
a big fan of politicians using the
Wii for everything. And I understand why

744
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:22.159
they do it, but you know, they and they get into a habit

745
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:25.679
of saying we did this, we
did that, and then they start using

746
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:30.519
Wii when they should actually be saying
I because like there wasn't like a multiple

747
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:32.880
group, multiple people group that was
doing a particular thing. It was an

748
01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:37.599
individual act that you yourself did.
But whatever they use we too much.

749
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:39.159
But in this case, I kind
of feel like he should say the wei,

750
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:43.400
you know, he should say we
brought the chair because it wasn't.

751
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:46.199
It was a team effort, you
know, right right. But let me

752
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:50.320
let me ask you a question though, because I feel like you're you're too

753
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:52.639
hard on this a system. Maybe
the assistant loves their job, right,

754
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:59.639
maybe maybe speed you know, I
like the work and it also needs assistance,

755
01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:02.000
which man, yeah, no,
that's true. I mean, at

756
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:08.000
least it's not like the full on
you know, like the royal cabins or

757
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:12.519
whatever, the carriages that people would
have. They have like seventeen eighteen people

758
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:15.599
with their you know, on their
shoulders walking this thing all around. You

759
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:22.000
know. It's not that. Okay, well it's it got the intended effects.

760
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:27.480
Man, Well, how does he
take flights down? No, he

761
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:30.639
sits down in the chair. Remember
the video of him on the flight flipping

762
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:34.400
out on goat? No, I
don't remember it. No, I mean

763
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.800
he gets yeah, I uh.
One of our one of the guys that

764
01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:42.800
we've had on the show in the
past before. We used to have him

765
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:46.320
on for a regular segment. He
was on the same flight as Barber from

766
01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:51.440
DC to and uh, you know
so, and he'll get a couple of

767
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:54.559
different seats, right, make rooms
generally sit up front. I get it.

768
01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:59.440
Yeah, if you're if you're a
bigger person, whether it's a round

769
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:01.880
or taller, whatever it is,
you're gonna be a lot more comfortable in

770
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:06.639
the front. I got no beef
with that. But it's like, he

771
01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:09.639
does have to obviously sit. But
you remember, like he was accused of

772
01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:14.440
getting into it the flight attendant and
putting his hand on her. You remember

773
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:17.320
this video. I don't know,
I've totally forgotten this if yeah, yeah,

774
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:21.480
yeah, yeah yeah, dig that
bad boy up. So all right,

775
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.559
frankly, and I would say that
that story would take the cake for

776
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:31.360
stupid this week. And then I
went up to the WRL website and was

777
01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:37.000
scanning the old headlines as I do, and happened upon one. Now,

778
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:43.159
granted, this is ap story reprinted
on RL, but they didn't change the

779
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:49.760
headline. So here we go.
Harvard president's resignation highlights new conservative weapon against

780
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:57.159
college's plagiarism. All right, this
is a cunce article with a twist.

781
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.239
Partly it's one of the more aggressive
ones I've seen. You saw that she

782
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:04.519
did a New York Times op ed. Did you see that this morning?

783
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.360
I did? Yeah, yeah,
Buddy and Gay. It's weird because once

784
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:14.159
again, man, this this this
conspiracy, this plan, this plot that

785
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:22.719
was hatched to get her, required
so many fortuitive turns of decisions she made

786
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:28.880
to really play out the masterminds behind
it. Yeah, she's a leged absolutely

787
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:31.119
amazing man. I think. I
mean, think about how far back and

788
01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:36.920
how deep this must go to have
gotten on the books. The rules against

789
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:42.360
plagiarism low those many years ago,
probably decades, right, So they had

790
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:45.079
to have foreseen this at some point, the people who were not alive,

791
01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:50.400
you know, all the one hundred
years ago when they when they crafted their

792
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:53.960
plagiarism standards and stuff, and then
they had to enforce all of those standards

793
01:03:53.960 --> 01:04:00.440
for decade upon decade upon decade against
students and staff, and all this all

794
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:04.480
in anticipation of this one moment where
they could pounce, they could seize and

795
01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:12.400
get Claudine Gay to resign. I
would point out, three weeks after what's

796
01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:15.639
her face McGill at u, Penn
had to resign. She was forced out,

797
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:17.800
and she didn't even plagiarize anything that
we know of at this point.

798
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:24.480
Yeah, I haven't seen the deep
dive, but yeah, well yeah getting

799
01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:27.440
the pass though, she gets a
pass. I don't know why. Why

800
01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:30.519
do you think that is it?
Because MIT is more like the hard sciences

801
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:33.039
kind of a thing. I don't
know. Yeah, I honestly I have

802
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:36.239
no idea, but I've seen some
crazy you know, like the campus news

803
01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:41.400
them t is no slouch man.
They got people screaming in lecture halls and

804
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:46.239
gluing themselves to stuff. But general
I found generally those are probably not students

805
01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:53.519
because you know, MIT students are
busy. I also was not aware that

806
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:58.840
that the scalping was done by the
white people, the white colonists, against

807
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:02.639
the Native American people's. I was
not aware of that until the story.

808
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:09.639
Yeah yeah, I mean yeah,
yeah, Chris Rufo said, oh scalped,

809
01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:15.199
and the ap dare I say,
pounced or seized on that tweet and

810
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:17.599
they pointed out they gave us all
the history lesson that it was the white

811
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:23.800
colonists who were scalping Native Americans,
which, of course, yeah, did

812
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:26.400
not you know that happened? You
know the history? If you if you

813
01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:31.119
when you take the your your history
class in high school in Wyoming instead of

814
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:38.280
core focusing on like Civil War things
like that. Western history is a big

815
01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:43.480
thing, and I had a growing
up, I had a huge fascination with

816
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:46.840
obviously the settling of the West,
the tribes. I could name almost all

817
01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:50.800
the tribes in that region and tell
you something about them. And because I

818
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:56.920
find this stuff fascinating. Yeah,
and and obviously we have a rich history,

819
01:05:57.159 --> 01:06:00.880
uh not just within my family has
been there for since it was settled

820
01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:04.239
out in that area, but also
you know Jim Gashl Museum and others.

821
01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:10.119
So I thought I had access to
all of this information. I had it

822
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:14.039
totally wrong, man, totally way
off. Yeah, I feel dumb,

823
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:16.960
right, Well now, well maybe
not, because they did come back,

824
01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:23.920
right. They came back, and
they they clarified, they stealth edited their

825
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:31.559
peace to note that they then said
they tacked on the phrase the white colonists

826
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:36.039
who sought to eradicate Native Americans,
and then they tacked on and also used

827
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:41.320
by some tribes against their enemies.
So they get the they get the soft

828
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:45.159
pedaling. Some tribes hashtag not all
tribes, right, but apparently all the

829
01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:47.800
white colonists, the white colonists.
They didn't get any of that. Some

830
01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:53.280
white colonists who sought to eradicate Native
Americans, I guess all by colonists did

831
01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:58.960
the scalping, but some Native Americans. This is so dumb. This is

832
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:02.000
what's so dumb, Like you don't
have to make up horrible stuff that you

833
01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:06.360
know, right, settler Western settlers
did, and specifically the government like look

834
01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:11.400
a battle a dull knife, which
was retaliation for little big hornets. Monstrous,

835
01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:15.679
but well, yeah they got about
a minute minute. Yeah, this

836
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:17.840
thing went through. The scariest thing
is that this was first off, written

837
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:23.639
by people who are supposedly going to
inform us, right, they're supposed to

838
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:27.239
be informing us of truth of facts. But not only that it went through

839
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:31.079
I would like to believe that it
went through editing, It went through copy

840
01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:40.800
editors like somebody else. Child,
listen to you. I want to believe.

841
01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:44.039
I want to lastly, let me
just add this lastly, but it

842
01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:46.280
all you know, really, this
surrounds Harvard and that is the home of

843
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:50.519
revisionist history. Right, They've got
a whole curriculum with sixteen nineteen, so

844
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:55.280
may as well change this up as
well, all right, appreciate it.

845
01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:58.360
Pepe, you have yourself a good
one. I didn't even get into the

846
01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:00.280
New Year's stuff, but we'll talk
next week, sir, have a good

847
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:18.319
one, all right, man,
Yes, sir, have a great weekend.

848
01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:25.520
All right, Good morning everybody,
and welcome. It is Thursday,

849
01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:30.680
getting back into the swing of things
post holiday, all of that good stuff.

850
01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:33.479
And it's been a little while since
we've had a chance to chat with

851
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:40.039
I said, to be sure,
I have all this stuff up in front

852
01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:45.800
of me with Stephen Kent here from
bounding into comics, and it's like I've

853
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:49.000
told you, every every day we
got some little nugget of Hollywood news,

854
01:08:49.159 --> 01:08:53.720
and that's where we're gonna head.
Steven, thanks for joining us this morning.

855
01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:57.680
How was first off? How was
traveling? You get to go over

856
01:08:57.720 --> 01:09:00.239
to Poland or something? What was
up with that? I went over to

857
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:05.239
Poland and brought back all kinds of
Polish crud and in addition to a stomach

858
01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:10.239
full of parogy. Apparently that's all
they eat over there. Can't complaint just

859
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:15.199
perogy. I mean, if it's
good paro, yeah, okay, with

860
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:18.159
meat, parog, with vegetables,
parogi. I have a have a I

861
01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:21.439
have a little bit of a question, Well, was it a impersonal or

862
01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:27.039
was it a professional capacity? We're
over there a professional capacity out there changing

863
01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:29.920
the world. Okay, all right, well good because if it was just

864
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:32.359
family vak, I wasn't going to
pick your brain with it. I'm interested

865
01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:39.960
because Poland, up until the most
recent election was it was kind of seen

866
01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:46.000
as one of those countries who didn't
have a lot of like the Dei stuff

867
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:49.079
didn't work there, do you know
what I mean? That was so they

868
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:54.800
generally they were seen as us rejecting
a lot of that. And they're not

869
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:59.479
alone and from an Eastern Europe perspective, but they're not. They're Poland.

870
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:03.640
And I'm just wondering, like,
with all of the stuff that you write

871
01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:08.199
about in the different discussions and beefs
that we have, like can you believe

872
01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:12.439
they change this all of that?
How does that look through the eyes of

873
01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:18.520
a European audience, especially one that's
probably more more inclined to reject some of

874
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:24.239
the stuff that woe Hollywood? Does
you know? That's that's interesting. I

875
01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:28.560
mean, if we're talking about Poland, I mean, this is a country

876
01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:31.159
and a part of the world that
is still very much living in the middle

877
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:34.840
of the twentieth century in terms of
the things that they talk about, the

878
01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:40.319
history that they celebrate. You know, every day Polish people, in addition

879
01:10:40.399 --> 01:10:45.840
to chain smoking entire packs of cigarettes, are still talking about crushing the Soviets

880
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:51.840
and beating out the fascists from there. They were pretty thoroughly kicked in the

881
01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:58.159
teeth by those cats. So they
absolutely were and they have a lot to

882
01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:00.079
celebrate. But you know, it's
it is just a part of the world

883
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:04.359
that does seem to be still living
in previous generation. So I just don't

884
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:09.000
think that they would buy that kind
of stuff at all. I am surprised

885
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:12.039
by the outcome of the Polish election, but I'm not an expert on it.

886
01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:15.479
All right, let's get into a
few things, and I want to

887
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:19.359
start with this. I was just
Ross and I were talking about this because

888
01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:25.279
neither of us were alive when the
first Star Wars came out, and nor

889
01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:30.720
were you. And to think that
in my lifetime, and in Ross's lifetime

890
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:34.920
and in your lifetime, that nobody
thought of this right here, So the

891
01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:40.199
first woman and the first person of
color to direct a Star Wars film.

892
01:11:40.359 --> 01:11:43.560
It's set to be released in twenty
twenty six. You can say that the

893
01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:48.159
force is strong with this one.
Here's Charmino beitchenor you know, I'm very

894
01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:53.520
thrilled about the project because I think
what we are about to create is something

895
01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:59.079
very special. And we're in twenty
twenty four now, and I think it's

896
01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:03.720
about time that we had a woman
come forward to shape the story in a

897
01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:09.760
galaxy far far away. All right, So since nineteen you know, late

898
01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:14.600
nineteen seventies, seventy seven or whatever, throughout the entirety of our lifetime,

899
01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:16.520
apparently nobody said, hey, what
if we got a woman involved in the

900
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:21.560
creative process on the Star Wars franchise? So does this bring excitement for you?

901
01:12:21.800 --> 01:12:26.319
Is this is you know, this
is your wheelhouse man? Yeah,

902
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:29.920
I mean, I just can't tell
you the level of my excitement that we're

903
01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:33.079
finally going to have a woman shaping
Star Wars. I didn't know that Kathleen

904
01:12:33.199 --> 01:12:39.000
Kennedy was a she her, but
apparently she is. And you know,

905
01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:43.399
then we've got in our background,
we've got Marcilla Lucas, who shaped behind

906
01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:47.000
George Lucas all of nineteen seventy seven, a new hope and gosh, that

907
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:51.880
leaves out Carrie Breck, Bryce Dallas
Howard. He got Jennifer Gretzner, who

908
01:12:51.960 --> 01:12:58.520
did the Ahsoka series and the Mandalorian. This is just such insulting garbage,

909
01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:02.359
not only to everybody who has come
through the Star Wars universe and done work

910
01:13:02.359 --> 01:13:08.079
on these movies and these shows,
but also to the audience. This leading

911
01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:13.479
with it's twenty twenty four kind of
stuff is just your first signal that you're

912
01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:17.840
dealing with an NPC level creative who
is coming to try and add to this

913
01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:24.439
universe. Where did they find this? Lady turns out the World Economic Forum.

914
01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:28.199
I don't know what they're doing,
but this is probably Kathleen Kennedy's worst

915
01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:31.039
cafiette. That's what you need to
go next time you do a europe Don't

916
01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:34.960
go to Poland any Parrogi's man.
Go to where the jets are. Have

917
01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:38.800
you seen some of the food those
cats have over at their little conference.

918
01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:43.159
Go to Switzerland when they do their
thing there. Go to Davos. Man,

919
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:46.920
I'm not polite enough company for that. Well, but I've if you

920
01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:50.920
want to meet future Star Wars creative
folks, that's apparently where they're hanging.

921
01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:55.479
Man. Well, here's the this
is this is this is where it lands

922
01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:58.560
for me. And I don't care
whether it's this woman. I don't care

923
01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:05.479
whether it's a you know, a
young black woman. I don't care what.

924
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:10.840
I just want to hear when a
director is introduced for a franchise that

925
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:14.039
I have interest. I want to
hear them nerd out a little. Do

926
01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:17.239
you know what I'm saying right?
I want the first thing on stage to

927
01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:23.199
be you know, them talking about
some you know some why this is so

928
01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:27.560
exciting for them. They love it. I don't believe that the woman that

929
01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:30.399
they and you this is just me
speculating. I don't believe for a moment

930
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:36.399
she has consumed all Cannon Star Wars. I don't believe that she has no

931
01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:41.359
and she doesn't demonstrate it. I
agree with you completely over at Bounding into

932
01:14:41.439 --> 01:14:44.760
Comics dot com. I've got my
column up about this this week, and

933
01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:47.720
I really said about the same thing
that you know when you go out and

934
01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:53.239
start doing media on your Star Wars
movie, that you are incredibly lucky to

935
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:57.800
be able to touch or direct.
We want to hear a little bit about

936
01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:02.000
your passion for the Lord Smugglers,
the Force, inquisitors, bounty hunters,

937
01:15:02.319 --> 01:15:09.239
stiff acolytes like tell us something about
how Star Wars excited to you or is

938
01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:13.960
added to your life and what you
are excited to bring to it. It's

939
01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:18.880
really not that hard, but instead
we get the snow White interview. Again.

940
01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:23.640
Now, to be fair, she's
also people are also quoting something she

941
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:27.119
said. But I want to make
sure that we have a accurate date on

942
01:15:27.159 --> 01:15:30.399
this, because I believe it was
in twenty seventeen where she said she likes

943
01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:34.680
making men uncomfortable, right, and
so that wasn't something that she just said,

944
01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:39.359
but it obviously is included in this. And so when I see that

945
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:43.399
that's the attitude or what we saw
with the you know, the snow White

946
01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:48.319
insanity, it's hard for me as
a fan to get excited. And it's

947
01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:53.119
understandable. I think why people go
to doom and gloom, even though,

948
01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:56.960
as you've pointed out in one of
our previous interviews, and Ross and I

949
01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:00.800
were talking about on the air,
you know, if you can't treat everything

950
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:04.800
as doom and gloom, because there
are some positive aspects and I want to

951
01:16:04.800 --> 01:16:09.640
get into some of that with you, but it just kills the buzz man.

952
01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:13.600
It killed like you remember what I
was talking about, real quick?

953
01:16:13.640 --> 01:16:15.359
Do you remember they were talking about, just for a moment, Quentin Tarantino

954
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:23.439
doing a Star Trek right now,
I don't that was there was Was it

955
01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:26.279
Star Trek or Star Wars Ross?
Do you remember that? Yeah? No,

956
01:16:26.279 --> 01:16:28.319
no, Star Trek And that's a
big fan. I thought that would

957
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:30.359
be awesome. Yeah. You know
why. You know why because I'll bet

958
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:35.800
Quentin Tarantino knows this stuff, right. He just strikes me as nerd enough

959
01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:40.000
to know this and obviously put his
own twist on it. That's all I'm

960
01:16:40.039 --> 01:16:44.520
asking for. I don't care your
politics. Yeah, you know, a

961
01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:48.039
boydo. I'm gonna butcher her name
a little bit on accident here, but

962
01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:54.159
you know, she's an accomplished documentary
feltmaker. She has made a huge impact

963
01:16:54.199 --> 01:16:59.439
around the world, particularly in her
home country of Pakistan, telling stories about

964
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:03.880
women who are up against Islamism in
that country, an incredible repassion, honor

965
01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:10.279
killings and violence. And that interview
that she did in twenty fifteen, I

966
01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:14.159
think it actually was she was on
stage, Yeah, she was on Stay

967
01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:18.039
with John Stewart, and John Stewart
was noting that the common thread throughout all

968
01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:23.920
of her movies is that men are
a holes and you know. She then

969
01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:27.960
goes on to say that she likes
to make men uncomfortable, that she enjoys

970
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:31.720
it. And the thing about that
interview that is probably the nuanced thing to

971
01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:36.359
hold on to is that she's talking
about her movies that are situated in the

972
01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:42.800
Middle East, you know where.
Yeah, those people deserve it. Honestly,

973
01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:46.079
we're not. It seems like rich
fought like that. Seems like there's

974
01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:51.479
a lot of fodder there, right
if you want to from a Pakistani woman's

975
01:17:51.520 --> 01:17:58.000
perspective, talk about I mean,
I'm one hundred percent with you, but

976
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:00.880
you know that's not how we rore. No, And so I see people

977
01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:05.640
associating it with the interview the other
day, and that's not was not included.

978
01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:08.960
All right, Well, with that
in mind, and with that,

979
01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:15.359
with that caveat, where do you
predict this is going? I mean you

980
01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:20.520
well, I predicted it's going to
lead to just incredible chaos and a further

981
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:27.279
decline of Disney's holdings over some of
these legacy ips like Star Wars and you

982
01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:32.119
know, Indiana Jones and Marvel,
Like there's just going to be a continued

983
01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:38.840
downslide. The Marvels from you know, Marvel Studios was just an absolute catastrophe

984
01:18:38.880 --> 01:18:44.199
of a movie. Indiana Jones ended
on its just absolute most dud moment with

985
01:18:44.439 --> 01:18:46.319
the Dial of Destiny. Not the
worst movie in the world, but a

986
01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:53.159
movie that still was ill conceived and
blew one hundred million dollars into the Abyss

987
01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:58.800
and Star Wars, which every one
of its theatrical releases made less than the

988
01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:02.399
one that came before. Now we
are still talking about movies that make billions

989
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:06.119
of dollars. Right then people call
that a marker of success. But when

990
01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:13.560
it is constantly getting smaller that pie
that is not good. And Ray is

991
01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:18.239
a not one of the most exciting
or beloved characters across multiple generations to make

992
01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:23.800
a new movie on. And this
director just seems to be an arsonist.

993
01:19:24.479 --> 01:19:28.119
I do respect the background that she's
come from and the work that she's done,

994
01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:31.039
but she has not given any indication
that Star Wars is something that she

995
01:19:31.159 --> 01:19:35.520
cares about, or Star Wars fans
or people that she wants to make a

996
01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:40.520
great movie for. All Right,
So sometimes I think stuff's pretty straightforward.

997
01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:43.720
So you know, I'm sitting here
looking at this and I'm not hopeful,

998
01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:47.359
and for a lot of the reasons
that you just expounded upon right. You

999
01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:50.760
can see it in the returns.
And by the way, I watched right

1000
01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:56.319
as we were off on vacation.
I did watch Indiana Jones because it finally

1001
01:19:56.319 --> 01:20:00.600
came to the streaming, and I
look, I was even able to be

1002
01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:04.960
kind of entertained by Crystal skulls uh
you know it, because yeah, it

1003
01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:09.920
makes Indiana Jones, right, it's
still Indiana Jones and we saw something new

1004
01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:14.079
and and he just kind of but
this. I had a hard time just

1005
01:20:14.439 --> 01:20:16.520
forcing myself. I kept having to
rewind it back because I'd get up and

1006
01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:19.239
do something. And if you'd have
told me I would do that with an

1007
01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:23.760
Indiana Jones movie, give me a
break. My problem with that movie.

1008
01:20:24.199 --> 01:20:27.439
The problem with that movie. My
opinion was like the first thirty minutes was

1009
01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:30.159
like old cgi Harrison Ford and to
me, that stuff is weird, right,

1010
01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:34.039
yes, yeah, yeah, but
you got to go all natural for

1011
01:20:34.119 --> 01:20:38.039
this kind of stuff. And I
kid you not. I liked this movie

1012
01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:40.479
in theaters like I was. I
was kind of into it. You know,

1013
01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:42.600
you're in you're in the groove,
you're in the dark, you're watching

1014
01:20:42.600 --> 01:20:45.199
Indiana Jones, and I was feeling
it. But then I rewatched this movie

1015
01:20:45.199 --> 01:20:50.640
on an airplane on the way to
Poland. Uh And I found myself sneaking

1016
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:56.039
glances over at the person next to
me who was watching The Notebook because it

1017
01:20:56.079 --> 01:21:01.000
was slightly more interesting, you know. I just I was bored. And

1018
01:21:01.479 --> 01:21:06.520
I've never I've never experienced that with
an Indiana Jones movie where I'm eager to

1019
01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:13.439
look away and watch Ryan Gosling return
to his love and the Notebook like I

1020
01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:15.479
was. That was just kind of
a weird experience where I had to admit

1021
01:21:15.560 --> 01:21:19.920
something was wrong with this movie.
I've never seen that movie. Badge,

1022
01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:25.159
you're miss you're missing out, You're
missing out. I'm sure that's exactly it.

1023
01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:28.399
So h and then let me let
me run somebody and we're chatting with

1024
01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:30.880
Stephen Ken from Mounting into Comics here, I just have about three and a

1025
01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:38.239
half minutes. I feel that there's
this middle ground of Hollywood too, and

1026
01:21:38.279 --> 01:21:43.119
that is creative folks who are who
will put content together, be a TV

1027
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:47.640
show or movie or whatever. And
the only thing that's really that woke about

1028
01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:53.439
it is the way that they interview
on it, like like that's that's their

1029
01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:55.960
badge. But then you go look
at the content. Case in point,

1030
01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:00.560
we're talking about the Percy Jackson Show, which is on Disney now and this

1031
01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:05.800
whole Medusa. By the way,
if there's ever been somebody who has been

1032
01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:10.960
more effective at fighting the patriarchy,
I feel like Medusa's on that list,

1033
01:22:11.039 --> 01:22:15.119
man. I feel like she has
She's us a special, special way to

1034
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:19.520
go about it. So when I
hear this Rick Rordon talking about Medusa's character

1035
01:22:19.880 --> 01:22:27.199
and the bandwidth for dree deconstructing the
patriarchy and all of this insanity. And

1036
01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:30.239
I hadn't watched it, but Ross
said, it doesn't come across when you're

1037
01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:34.520
actually watching the show. So it's
like, yeah, go around lip service,

1038
01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:39.960
man. Yeah. And that's a
thing that creatives in Hollywood do.

1039
01:22:40.039 --> 01:22:43.079
They do this to pat each other
on the back, do interviews and get

1040
01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:45.840
accolades and good coverage, but just
to really quickly kind of dive into the

1041
01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:49.359
Percy Jackson thing. Yeah, Medusa
is the subject of one of the most

1042
01:22:49.399 --> 01:22:55.159
recent episodes, and they've been talking
about this the reordience, both Rick and

1043
01:22:55.199 --> 01:23:00.920
his wife, and talking about how
the book didn't really handle or dive into

1044
01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:06.600
sort of the victimhood of Medusa.
Medusa in Greek myth was turned into this

1045
01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:15.520
monster by the goddess Athena because Poseidon
sexually assaulted her in Athena's shrine, and

1046
01:23:15.560 --> 01:23:21.880
so Athena punished the woman for this
and turned her into this snake monster who

1047
01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:27.800
devours men for the centuries to come. And this is sprained by them as

1048
01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:30.720
sort of like a patriarchal story.
I think it actually says more about what

1049
01:23:30.800 --> 01:23:34.079
women do to one another when they
don't like each other. But that's just

1050
01:23:34.199 --> 01:23:41.399
me. Yeah, I think that's
the real story. But you know,

1051
01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:45.239
it's a good show. I actually
do recommend people watch this and consider checking

1052
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:46.920
out the new Percy Jackson series.
Your kids love it. They call it

1053
01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:51.960
the new Harry Potter. I'm told
it's a neat thing to see kids enjoying

1054
01:23:53.239 --> 01:23:57.079
Greek myth and diving into some of
those nuances. Also, don't let your

1055
01:23:57.159 --> 01:24:00.640
kids fangirl gods. You know,
you know this is it's kind of like

1056
01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:06.479
dating a cartel member. It's it's
probably exciting, but it could end horribly

1057
01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:11.880
real quick in this case with hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, all

1058
01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:15.640
right, we got links. We'll
tweet them out to the article's reference there

1059
01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:20.439
abounding into comic Stephen Kent appreciate it
and we'll chat hopefully at our normal time

1060
01:24:20.680 --> 01:24:26.840
coming up next week. Okay,
yes, yes, yes, all right,

1061
01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:30.279
look at that. So at nine
topics and I only got to two.

1062
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:38.039
But that's how we roll. It's
one o six one FM Talk in

1063
01:24:38.079 --> 01:24:42.760
the Triangle and News Talk ninety four
to five w pt I and the Triad.

1064
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:48.520
You don't feel that that I'll get
a little graining after two hours ross

1065
01:24:49.479 --> 01:24:53.319
out over a video game again.
I mean again, I can do different

1066
01:24:53.399 --> 01:24:56.119
names too, but I can't wait. Okay, Oh, it's gonna be

1067
01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:59.840
exciting. There's some Walking Dead game
coming up. Yeah, and it's like

1068
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:02.359
gonna spoil anything here. It's from
AMC and it follows the plot of the

1069
01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:05.359
TV show. Oh wow, but
you can change like pivotal moments. And

1070
01:25:05.399 --> 01:25:09.319
I'm just looking forward to where man, you Sherif Fan going coral for like

1071
01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:12.359
two hours. Yeah, that's what
the people want. Got to give him

1072
01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:15.680
what they want. Right when he
told me about it, I actually envisioned

1073
01:25:15.720 --> 01:25:20.079
you walking around as the Leather Jacket
and Egan dude with your barbed wire bat,

1074
01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:25.479
just murdering everybody. Just you know, That's what I figured that would

1075
01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:28.159
devolve into. But it sounds like
you gotta you gotta play through to get

1076
01:25:28.199 --> 01:25:30.119
to that point, right, can
you play? Yeah, it'll be pretty

1077
01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:32.600
far. Yeah, I guess so, like because there's like obviously spoiler.

1078
01:25:32.680 --> 01:25:35.840
And then in the show, right, there's a big pivotal event where Rick

1079
01:25:35.880 --> 01:25:40.239
and Shane they're like the two the
two good guys, right, and they

1080
01:25:40.239 --> 01:25:42.560
have to fight. One of them
survives and one of them doesn't. I've

1081
01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:45.039
always been like, man, I
wish like Shane had lived okay, and

1082
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:48.000
that now we can see what happens. Well, luckily Carl's fine, right,

1083
01:25:48.079 --> 01:25:53.039
Chorl's fine, coral, but he
lives a probably long, healthy life,

1084
01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:56.079
right. I'm not I've never watched
very much. I tried to get

1085
01:25:56.119 --> 01:25:59.399
in. I really did try to
get into the show. I mean I

1086
01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:02.520
just tried. I think the deal
was I got into it too late and

1087
01:26:02.840 --> 01:26:06.239
it was just so much catching up. But that was like such a cultural

1088
01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:12.399
phenomenon on Sunday nights, like everybody
watched this show. But he talked about

1089
01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:15.960
the next day. The articles were
in everyone. I'm sure we mentioned it.

1090
01:26:15.039 --> 01:26:18.800
Yeah, I just fell off.
Yeah, as it happens, man,

1091
01:26:19.119 --> 01:26:25.640
like Marva, what's that sort of
like Marvel dude, they didn't have

1092
01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:30.239
time there was an actor strike.
They couldn't get out and promote the movie.

1093
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:34.560
I don't I don't even know what
you're talking about. The entire deck

1094
01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:40.039
deck was stacked against them. There's
there's really nothing they could do. Nothing

1095
01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:45.399
they could do. I know this
because I read about it yesterday in various

1096
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:55.239
places, you know, like gowker
sites and the feminist blogs and stuff.

1097
01:26:55.319 --> 01:26:57.479
I mean, you just you just
don't get it. All right, we

1098
01:26:57.520 --> 01:27:01.560
flipped back to this, So,
ah, the Harvard thing. All right,

1099
01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:13.960
so somebody posted a posted a video
of a phone call that they placed

1100
01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:20.079
to the Harvard Admissions department. And
it's it's real, apparently, and it

1101
01:27:20.079 --> 01:27:24.760
it's it's long too. How many
minutes is this whole thing? Let me

1102
01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:26.760
add it up here? One?
Two, Well, you got it.

1103
01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:28.960
It's two and a half, two
and a half minutes, a little longer

1104
01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:34.159
than that. Where it is that
it is purported to be a woman who

1105
01:27:34.279 --> 01:27:40.960
is a Palestinian woman who is calling
Harvard Admissions on behalf of her son,

1106
01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:45.279
who is I guess at that transitionary
age. And oh, by the way,

1107
01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:50.119
her son also is a Hamas fighter. But when the when the fighting's

1108
01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:55.239
done, you know, would look
forward to higher education. Perhaps at one

1109
01:27:55.239 --> 01:28:01.039
of the world's most well known institutions
of higher learning. Horror. And so

1110
01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:06.439
this dude picks up the phone,
and I spent a lot of time evaluating,

1111
01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:12.840
like what do you do in this
situation? And yeah, dude just

1112
01:28:12.920 --> 01:28:17.760
goes with the flow. And I
would liken a lot of it too.

1113
01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:23.000
When you call a call center and
it's clear the person is not telling you

1114
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:28.479
things from memory or knowledge, but
rather reading scripts or they're kind of unplugged,

1115
01:28:28.479 --> 01:28:31.680
you know, going through the motions. Some people are saying, well,

1116
01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:35.199
well, what you see is you
see Harvard encouraging terrorism. I don't

1117
01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:39.800
know that, dude. The guy
sounds like he would encourage nobody to bug

1118
01:28:39.880 --> 01:28:43.159
him during the day because he doesn't
really like talking and dealing with people,

1119
01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:50.399
even though that's literally his job.
He's just so monotone. But the woman

1120
01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:54.319
doing the prank call, she's give
her this. She's very quick on her

1121
01:28:54.319 --> 01:29:00.159
feet, and so yeah, I
think it's the combination of her o excitement

1122
01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:09.039
even with the really dark subject matter, and his treating it like an annoyance.

1123
01:29:09.680 --> 01:29:12.359
You know, one of the many
annoyances that he has to go through

1124
01:29:12.479 --> 01:29:17.279
during the day talking to his lessons
would be the best way to describe it.

1125
01:29:17.479 --> 01:29:23.279
But I did laugh a bunch.
So for that, here we go.

1126
01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:28.359
You. Hello, My name is
Jamma. My son Hamid would really

1127
01:29:28.479 --> 01:29:32.000
like to register to your establishment next
year. I think you might have heard

1128
01:29:32.079 --> 01:29:36.680
of him. He was one of
the Hamas fighters who participated in the fight

1129
01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:44.479
of October seventh. Really political activist. So I wanted to ask if you

1130
01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:50.399
have some kind of political activism scholarship. No, all of our scholarships are

1131
01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:56.159
need based. There aren't any merit
based scholarships. It would not help if

1132
01:29:56.159 --> 01:30:00.720
he says that he's a Hamas fighter. Everything that a student helps them in

1133
01:30:00.760 --> 01:30:04.399
the process, Okay, So that
would be helpful if he writes down that

1134
01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:12.000
he was in the October seventh massacre
in in addition to everything else. Our

1135
01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:16.880
process looks at the student's entire secondary
school career, both inside and outside of

1136
01:30:16.880 --> 01:30:24.960
the classroom, and the massacres is
an advantage what every eighty of their activities?

1137
01:30:25.640 --> 01:30:28.600
All right, all right, look, we can't dude doesn't want to

1138
01:30:28.600 --> 01:30:30.840
be there, right, we can
agree on that. He is, just

1139
01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:32.720
like, but do you think you
didn't want to be there just because of

1140
01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:35.800
this phone call? Or do you
think again? Because I bet he takes

1141
01:30:35.800 --> 01:30:39.760
stupid phone calls all day. Oh
it's his entire day. He does not

1142
01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:44.319
want to be there period. Yeah, all right, so but he's so

1143
01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:48.159
like if I were to, if
I were I didn't look at what this

1144
01:30:48.239 --> 01:30:54.279
looked like in waveform uncompressed when you
were dubbing it in. But I'll bet

1145
01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:57.960
you wouldn't even have to normalize his
audio pattern, which doesn't make a lot

1146
01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:03.560
of sense to people. But if
you've ever seen a show where they have

1147
01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:08.319
audio where you can see it visually
represented, like in an editing thing,

1148
01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:12.239
and you know they stick this in
movies when they're doing like FBI recordings and

1149
01:31:12.279 --> 01:31:15.920
stuff, Like when I do a
commercial or we we have audio, I

1150
01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:21.159
have to like, I have to
gate the audio because inflection goes one way

1151
01:31:21.239 --> 01:31:26.039
or the other, and you want
it to be consistent, you know what,

1152
01:31:26.239 --> 01:31:29.720
You don't want a bunch of peaks
and valleys. I don't think you

1153
01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:32.920
have to do it for that dude. He is straight, straight monotone,

1154
01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:36.800
coupled with not wanting to be there, coupled with this current line of questioning,

1155
01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:42.520
which by the way, gets more
insane. But then like she pulls

1156
01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:46.079
back from time to time, listen
to this. He didn't rape any captives.

1157
01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:51.720
He's very respectful for a gender self
definition, you only kill them.

1158
01:31:51.720 --> 01:31:57.399
He's very feminist, so it would
be okay. Right. All I can

1159
01:31:57.479 --> 01:32:01.600
say to you is that he can
apply great because it's very respectful for ethnic

1160
01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:06.520
minorities, the only slot of white
babies. We don't need more white male

1161
01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:16.159
in the world. Right, Hello, so dark all right, do you

1162
01:32:16.199 --> 01:32:20.039
have any other admissions questions? I
can answer for you. Yes, we

1163
01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:25.479
want to make sure about your campus
rules, so we don't By the way,

1164
01:32:25.520 --> 01:32:28.279
this is my favorite, hands down, my favorite part of this.

1165
01:32:28.399 --> 01:32:31.319
She starts barreling through the rules and
what's crazier is the normal pattern would be

1166
01:32:31.359 --> 01:32:35.960
saying to crazier, to craziest,
but she like bounces in and out of

1167
01:32:35.960 --> 01:32:42.560
that. Don't do anything forbidden.
You can smoke in the campus surroundings.

1168
01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:53.760
I'm sure if you could smoke on
Okay, what about drinking? A drinking

1169
01:32:53.840 --> 01:33:00.760
is not allowed? Oh what about
raping? That's not allowed on campus?

1170
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:04.760
And he didn't rape any Oh crap
I just accidentally restarted, all right,

1171
01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:10.560
so damn, we're gonna listen to
the whole thing. I just love the

1172
01:33:10.600 --> 01:33:13.840
part where he's like, no,
that's that's not allowed on campus either.

1173
01:33:15.319 --> 01:33:16.760
I mean, I understand that that's
his world, that's his perview, but

1174
01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:21.439
I'm pretty sure that's not allowed off
campus unless uh ross, would you see

1175
01:33:21.439 --> 01:33:25.960
if rapn's up in the city of
Boston are legal? Maybe once I guess

1176
01:33:26.079 --> 01:33:29.720
technically what Herbert's and Cambridge, but
yeah, we're gonna check on that.

1177
01:33:29.800 --> 01:33:31.199
No, it's not. Oh,
it's not legal. Okay, I mean,

1178
01:33:31.239 --> 01:33:34.319
I you know, you never know, it's frowned upon, you never

1179
01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:39.680
know Boston, right, okay,
all right? Very respectful for a gender

1180
01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:43.039
self definition, yes, yes,
yes, yes, you only kill them.

1181
01:33:43.039 --> 01:33:46.039
He's very feminist, so it would
be okay, right, all right.

1182
01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:49.520
All I can say to you is
that he can apply great. Great

1183
01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:55.560
because he's very respectful for ethnic minorities. The only slot of white babies.

1184
01:33:55.600 --> 01:33:59.600
We don't need more white male in
the world, right, so this is

1185
01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:01.119
right. Here's where I dip out. Man, I'm out. I'm just

1186
01:34:01.119 --> 01:34:05.000
say, all right, thanks for
the call. I'm out. All right,

1187
01:34:06.239 --> 01:34:11.039
Do you have any other admissions questions
I can answer for you. Yes,

1188
01:34:11.159 --> 01:34:15.119
we want to make sure about your
campus rules, so we don't do

1189
01:34:15.159 --> 01:34:23.560
anything forbidden. You can smoke in
the campus surroundings, I'm sure if you

1190
01:34:23.600 --> 01:34:30.000
could smoke on Okay, what about
drinking? A drinking is not allowed?

1191
01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:36.199
What about raping that's not allowed on
campus? E? All right, all

1192
01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:40.600
right, So I just thought it
was just gonna play the last little part,

1193
01:34:40.600 --> 01:34:43.520
but whatever, all right. So
and then finally, so she just

1194
01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:46.479
asked the raping question. And at
that point you could feel, you could

1195
01:34:46.479 --> 01:34:51.399
feel this thing grown and this frustration
growing. But she don't like well,

1196
01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:57.199
she then hits other points on her
list that aren't exactly sequential. Okay,

1197
01:34:57.800 --> 01:35:03.199
how about the slaughtering babies around the
campus that's not allowed on campus? What

1198
01:35:03.279 --> 01:35:11.399
about wearing a hat? I think
were Oh, I was afraid for a

1199
01:35:11.439 --> 01:35:15.199
moment. Okay, he's looking forward
to being in your school. He has

1200
01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:18.880
a lot of very very fun activity
for him and the students and everyone.

1201
01:35:18.960 --> 01:35:30.079
It would be so much fun,
Thank you, very very much. Imagine

1202
01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:33.720
somebody just working at the DMV or
like a government office, he does want

1203
01:35:33.720 --> 01:35:40.359
to be there, no emotion,
just going through the motions that, yeah,

1204
01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:45.520
take a number, sat down,
Yeah, But at the DMV Nope.

1205
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:49.199
Do you think any DMV person who's
dealing with somebody is like getting a

1206
01:35:49.319 --> 01:35:54.199
new license at any point? Like
you have any questions. Yeah, so

1207
01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:58.680
can I rate people with this like
that? That's not I feel like then

1208
01:35:58.760 --> 01:36:01.600
they might become passive, more interested
in what's going on and they're in their

1209
01:36:01.880 --> 01:36:08.800
sphere. This dude's just dead in
the eyes and it comes across that way.

1210
01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:11.479
So anyway, that's the Harvard video
I was talking about. You can

1211
01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:15.159
check that out. We'll tweet it
out for you. That's what we do,

1212
01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:23.680
all right, Good news Italian Americans. The Muppets are They're on your

1213
01:36:23.680 --> 01:36:26.880
side. I'm actually surprised by this, I gotta be honest, especially when

1214
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you consider where the how long the
show has been on the air, and

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where it emanates from. But although
I'm a little underwhelmed with who they selected,

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I'll explain what I mean by that. We got to get into what

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happened with the Secret Service and where
is this? All right? I think

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they're playing fast and loose with the
verbiage surrounding this. What exactly may have

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happened that his indefinitely closed the I
ten in LA which look, you can

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talk about roads different the four or
five UH and various other roads, Pacific

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Coast Highway, the Hollywood Freeway,
and which is specifically part of the four

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or five. You can talk about
main arteries in and around Greater Los Angeles,

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but you lose the ability, you
lose the ten, especially as it

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pertains to how it goes between the
ports down there on Long Beach in LA.

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That that's a huge, huge,
huge deal. And I'll explain some

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of the some of the reasoning there. But the freeway burned down, well

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it burned. It didn't burn down, but it burned to the point where

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you can't use it. And people
had a lot of theories. And I'm

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just looking at the statement from officials
in LA yesterday and it looks like they're

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trying to say that it wasn't what
people were theorizing, but and but the

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way that they word it, I
think it still could be. They just

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want this to go away. There's
spending more time on figuring out how to

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verbally police this than to actually ask
themselves, Hey, is this a problem

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and is this a problem that could
once again repeat and create the nightmare that

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we were about to experience here in
LA and already one of the worst traffic

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situations in the world. So we'll
get into that and much more. Phone

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number eight eight eight nine three four
seven eight seventy four, Hang on the

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best show. After the show is
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01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:47.560
Oday for the podcast on the iHeart
radio app to this because SAPs the soul

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each and every time I watch these
at all I gotta do is and look,

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is there going to be editing that
obviously is? It makes the point

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likely that is intended to be made
by the person shooting the video. Right,

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So if you go down, remove
the politics. Right. If you

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go down and you're gonna do a
video and you want a bunch of people

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to basically either demonstrate what it is
you're criticizing or agree with you, well,

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if you interview one hundred people and
your video has five people, chances

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are you found what you want to
find. That being said, it's still

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it's tough to watch super cuts of
some people, somebody going down the microphone

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to an education, you know,
an educational environment in the United States,

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and I'm not talking preschool, I
mean college or those just graduated high school

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students who couldn't decide whether the US
was eighty seven years old or a billion

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or something. I can't remember what
the horrible number was she gave. This

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is basic stuff and I think if
you are an enrolled student there, it's

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hard to make this. It's harder
to make that argument that, well,

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you just took the dumbest five people
out of a hundred, right, But

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if I only interviewed one hundred people
who got into a four year university,

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I feel like that's more telling than
if I grabbed one hundred random people at

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the beach, right, and I
you know, I got a few snookies

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in there. So then I see
stuff like that humans can only hold their

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breath for ten minutes. Then how
was Lewis Armstrong able to become the first

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man on the moon? I don't
even know where to start on this.

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I mean, one, I understood
like as funny as there's some people that

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are like their take was we never
went to the moon. But I would

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argue that's the least of the problems
associated with just that little snippet that this

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young woman has. Second, you
know, like her deep thoughts with jack

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handy thing going on. I mean, I still can't believe people believe in

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the moon. But go on,
Queen, are so all right, So

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check belief in moon. Check two, we went to the moon. Fine,

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I'll super serve the conspiracy theorists out
there, but listen very closely.

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Humans can only hold their breath for
ten minutes. Then how was Louis Armstrong

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able to become the first man on
the moon? Yeah? How to explain

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that? Like this? I researched
it. It's true. I am.

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It's space older mode Helm loosen co
sign. I've gotta suffocate. I mean,

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01:41:50.359 --> 01:41:54.920
if look, if somebody's gonna have
the lung capacity, I mean,

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he's sitting on the moon since what
you know, late sixties. I mean

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he played the trumpet. Yeah,
it's gonna be him. Maybe him and

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Herb Alpert. Right, he's still
alive. Get I mean those two,

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you know, just from a A
said, chose him