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Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, October
twenty fourth, twenty twenty three. I'm

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your host, Jan Choa, and
welcome to the Giant BombCast, Episode eight

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hundred and twelve, Powered by Enzys
to You and the Power of Puppies.

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Today, we're constantly fueled by dogs, cats, all types of animals except

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exotic birds. The Giant BombCast does
not support exotic birds. We never have,

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we never will. Get those scary
little almost dinosaurs out of my face,

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and no problem with them. I
got a problem with them. They

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get there, they learned to speak. I can't have that, dude,

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I would be I wouldn't be surprised
to find that. Like you know in

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the Mario movie the it's the alternative
universe where instead of being descended from from

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apes, they're descended from dinosaurs.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that's

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true of Dan Data then he's a
dinosaur. Dan is descended from dinosaurs,

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while the rest of us are descended
from apes. That is where I'm at.

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Can you describe to the audio listeners
what's going on with my beard right

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now? No, I don't want
to throw up on my nice keyboard.

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It's several inches down from the face
part. The rest of the there's still

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more beard and in there is fuzz
fluff. He just got it out,

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Ladies and gentlemen, we have removed
the fuzz. Oh good podcasting? Was

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that from? All? Right?
Well, joining me is always co captain

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of the ship. Jeff grib It's
twenty twenty three. I'm taking gut health

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seriously. Jan that's right, take
your probiotics, drink some hot water.

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Expert on hot water and other hot
beverages and hot liquids, Jeff Baklar.

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That's true. I love it.
Huh. Everyone knows that's me. Give

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me a hot thing, and I'm
happy. We got the hottest thing.

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It's the hottest sport right now.
Yes, yes, expert on temperature,

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whether that's all things hot, all
things cold, all things lukewarm, and

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all things room temp, room tap
dan record, that's me. I watched

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part of the Grand Slam of Curling
in Canada in a hotel room. There's

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a lot of yelling in it.
Yeah, yeah, a lot of communication.

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Which one is the curling? Is
that the one where like they're brushing

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the stones, Yeah cool, and
those stones are like only come from one

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part of the world. And they're
super duper expensive and stuff. Why don't

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we get into this curl? Absolutely? Yeah? I mean is curling very

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accessible? Like I'm sure where Dan
is now? Yes? Uh, I

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think you have curling available to you
in any reasonable manner. Well, I'm

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gonna look now, I travel weather
situation going on here? I think so

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if a storm happens and I get
knocked out, it is the sky is

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weirdly dark for eleven thirteen am so
okay, all right, keep an eye

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on it. Saw you back.
There's a San Francisco Bay Area curling club.

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I stand corrected, and now you
gotta curl? You know what that's

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because it smells like something? What's
that? That was a little pre showed

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jem. Tune in live and then
you'll you'll get the you know, or

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check the twitch archive. I guess
how's it going? Boys, I'm fucking

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mad at myself and I'm I'm never
mind no no surprizes this. Yeah?

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Can I sit on the couch for
a second? Please wait? Actually I'm

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want to lay down, sprawl out, Okay, puts your feet up,

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Yeah, my fet I set up
my Uh. I've been in this house

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for years now, and when I
got here. I I set up my

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Internet like h like the pro I
thought I was, and I found out

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yesterday that I I've been living a
lie. You've been using Wi Fi this

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whole time. I fucked my shit
up and set it up the wrong way.

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And oh you got that reverse Internet. Yeah, they were taking the

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Internet away from your I reversed the
downs and the ups, the Wi Fis

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and the lands. I fucked up
so royally that I was just handicapping my

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entire network. And I only realized
that yesterday when I was upgrot when I

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updated one of the devices on my
setup. And I'm just like so mad

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at myself. Now, it's not
anything that's hardwired, so like this computer

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was always fine operating a full PA. It was just wireless stuff and also

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the other drops that I have around
my house using the Mocha technology. Sure,

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I'm just very mad at myself.
Uh rookie mistake, user error to

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the highest degree. I got it
all fixed yesterday. It involved a pinball

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machine, because all good things in
life do in your pinball fucked up your

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Internet story's oldest time exactly. Okay, my pinball machines are connected to the

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Internet. I'll have you know you
can't do that. Uh, And I

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find and and that and and it
was because I received a new pinball machine

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that I discovered all of this nonsense
folks. And thank you pinball, you

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fixed my WiFi. Look, long
story short, it's all fine. What

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was wrong? Okay, it's such
a it's a like I feel like eleven

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people are going to understand what I'm
saying. Hey, those eleven people will

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feel represented back. All right,
everyone knows what Okay, everyone knows what

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mocha is. Right. Moga is
when you take your internet, your wired

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intern Ethernet internet connection and basically place
it onto the coax use wiring in your

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house. Your INTERNT comes out of
the cable, it goes into your router,

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and then you send it back into
the cable so it can go through

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the cable and the rest of your
house. So instead of having Ethernet ports,

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you have coax sports that can act
basically as Ethernet ports. That's also

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a delicious chocolate espresso drink that,
of course no one confuses the two,

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but thank you anyway for discrepancy.
Right Listen, So here's the deal.

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I had four Mocha drops in my
house and when I say a drop,

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I mean like, oh, a
house, I'm sorry, a room where

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coax comes out. And that's the
beauty of Moca. You're like, oh

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damn, I don't need to wire
up my house because I got co acts.

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Because every house built between nineteen seventy
and nineteen ninety like automatically wired it

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up with coax. Right, So, because cable is always a thing,

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and they're like, all right,
we'll have cable in it. So they

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figured out the coax ethernet and that's
fantastic. Okay. I put a Mocha

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adapter, which is the thing you
need at the coax drop, which takes

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the the ethernet of the coax and
allows you to have Internet wherever there's a

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coax drop. I connected switches to
all of those Mocha adapters, so I

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give myself a couple options there.
And out of all those Mocha drops,

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I put an access point like a
Unify, like one of those Ubiquity dishes,

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an access point so I can evenly
spread out my Internet connection no matter

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where in the home you are.
Okay, so far, so good,

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So far, so good. Yesterday, I'm trying to connect one of my

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pimball machines to one of these wireless
drops, and I'm noticing that like the

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Internet was the Mocha, like was
connected, but there was no Internet coming

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out of it. And a couple
hours later I came to find out that

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the initial entry point where Internet enters
my home, I had the Mocha set

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up backwards upside down. Yes,
it was completely Internet. It was never

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coming out of these access points.
So it was but down the line,

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okay, okay, So like I
screwed up at the entry point of the

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house, but further down my Mocha
line, right further down the workflow.

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I had Moca working but like like
for like stations three and four. Okay,

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so like Moca's working there, but
not in front, so like any

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time. So there were parts where
I thought I had a wired connection and

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it was secretly, secretly, it
was a lie. It was a lie.

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It was a lie, and it's
it's a much longer story and much

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more upsetting story when you really drag
it out all out and unpacked the whole

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thing. But I fixed it through
the help of a friend. And I'm

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here to tell you that you should
get a pinball machine, because that's going

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to fix your Internet. Then again, we all who hasn't been there?

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How can I get the longer story? You? You be like, all,

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back Layer is such a dumb ass
motherfucker that you did this. I

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did this five years ago when the
Internet first got installed in the house.

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I did it five years ago.
It's been wrong for five years. Okay,

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yeah, that's pretty upsetting. Actually, how could I become the Jeff

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Backler of espresso machines? Where like
I just get sent one, you know,

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and like, hey, like he's
sending up dms. You know you

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can make it happen, all right? What's the angle here, guys?

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What's the angle? Where? Like? How can I convince a fancy coffee

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company to send me a bad YouTuber
an espresso machine? You say that,

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you say, I've been very vocal
about my love of coffee. My gamer

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tags a coffee thing, and you
know we I've said this for many,

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many years on podcasts, and I
would love to you know, I've heard

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great things about the product. And
you know, if you maybe if you

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do comp units, if you want
to send one out, I could do

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a post on Twitter. I could
do a post on Instagram, maybe story

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or two. I bet you Dan
could get all of us cast it,

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including himself, the whole extended giant
bomb universe, all of us wind up

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in a movie somehow because of Dan
Reichert. Is there a new Smurfs movie

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coming out? I would like to
be on that. What Smurf would you

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be, Jeff Greb I would be
the Lady Smurf. I think it'd be

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very pretty. Okay, it's your
name, Smurfet, Smurfat Smurfet. Is

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there a villain and Smurfs? Yeah, Gargamele and you look just like him.

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Okay, oh you are a gargamele. Listen, don't you think though,

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Dan, I know you're like the
ultimate con person when I'm getting free

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stuff, right, I have all
the confidence in you in the world.

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But don't you think like talking about
how you do it is like just the

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tiniest bit incriminating, like not a
magician. There's no code also, but

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like something about it, but like
I don't know, there's just something that

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comes off as like like a little
disingenuous. Like no, I think I

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think it comes across as extremely genuous. What genuine genuine? Yeah, thank

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you? No, Look, I
have all the faith in the world in

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you for this sort of stuff,
and I never would think twice. But

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I just also think that like,
yeah, I don't know, I mean,

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it would be just genuine, right
if I if I was trying to

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get free stuff that sucks and I
was saying it was good, that's disingenuous.

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But like, I'm only trying to
get free shit that I like and

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that I can be like, yeah, that's actually kicks ass, that's thing

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I got for free. I mean, honest transaction on all fronts. It's

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nothing but honesty. It's the most
honest thing imaginable. If I somehow can

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take that podcast clip of Jeff Bagler
talking about Mocha and convince them that no,

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he was talking about the fun chocolatey
espresso d a yes, And it's

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like, oh, you know,
we were just talking about Mocha's for an

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extended period of time and my coworker
was getting it wrong. He got the

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Mocha's wrong. But are you prepared
to be accused of being in the pocket

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of Big Mocha. I'm ready,
Yes, I've beat it. I'm in

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the pocket of my Bojangles Xbox series
X. If you think my love of

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my Bojangles Xbox is disingenuous and you
don't know that's a big pocket. You're

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like being there, You're good,
yes, yes, Uh, this is

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gonna be the start. This is
gonna be the launch of this. We're

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we're we're not only gonna start,
continue punching down, gonna keep yes ending,

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and we're gonna get an espresso machine
for me and then as soon as

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all three of you come over,
we're having fun espress or drinks out of

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teeny tiny cups. I find I
do wish that for you, Jan.

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I know how much you love espresso. I love it too. I want

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that for you. And you know, I think with Dan's twelve step course,

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you'll be on your way to getting
free shitting no time. Jeff Becker.

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Oh you know what else? I
love sat I love podcasts same.

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I love when a new podcast is
started, specifically from my peers and friends

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and family at GameSpot. Beckler,
that is right, Jan Ochoa, what

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use is the best? Reminded me
of like talk about you're the best,

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You're the best. Uh, this
is exciting. We've been working on this

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for a very long time and we're
launching a new podcast. Uh. Actually,

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game Spot is launching a new podcast
because we are launching the game Spot

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Review Cast, and that is going
to take like a curated selection of the

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latest and greatest game Spot reviews and
turning them into quick and easy digestible podcast

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episodes, mostly voiced over by our
own Fife and Tomorrow Hussein. Very exciting

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stuff. If if you're someone who
you know, you're like, I don't,

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I don't, I don't want to
read that review. I want to

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listen to that review for you.
Yes, this is for you. Uh

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So we're gonna help them host it, and uh, you know, shouts

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out to Tam and Emma and the
team at GameSpot that has been helping us

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produce this for a very long time. A lot of it obviously as a

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big lift on their end. So
it's been really awesome working with those people.

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And you can start listening to it
right now. The podcast is already

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live wherever you get podcasts, but
we're also going to be hosting them a

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little later today on giant bomb dot
com, So if you want to listen

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to it in a player on a
site, you can go do that.

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And I believe there will be a
story going up sometime today on GameSpot dot

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com that just sort of like intros
the show to everybody. I believe there's

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a Spider Man two is up there. Now, there's a couple other post

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you know, dated reviews and whatnot. And what's really cool too, is

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we're gonna anytime there's like a relevant
review that or a game that the gang

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talked about on like the after Dark
podcast, we're gonna sort of like surgically

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remove that portion of the conversation from
that show and also pop it into this

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other feed too. So it's really
exciting. Like I said, we've been

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working on it for a while,
and that is launching two day and you

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can get it wherever you handle your
podcast affairs. Let me tell you I

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I work with, well, it's
most mostly two people that inspire me to

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be a more organized person. Those
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Let me tell you, Yeah,
I didn't know you could check off

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someone else's ASNA tasks that have been
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ticking those boxes and just being like, don't worry, Jen, I got

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it. Like shit, okay,
I didn't think you know you could see

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my board, but okay, uh
fantastic. Uh backler, what does it

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call it again for folks the it
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out to the fantom our team for
a dope blue logo. We got going

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on logs right, a little logs
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I'm super I'm like half like proud
and relieve that we got this up.

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You know, it took a while. Everyone really put a tremendous amount of

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effort into it, so thank you
everyone involved in that. And it's super

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sick, just really well produced.
Very proud of it. Go check it

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out. Something that I don't know
if someone else is proud of. Let's

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talk about games by the Way,
Games by the Way, Games by the

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Way. I'm sure a lot of
people work very hard on this, but

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I don't know if they can one
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Jeff Grubb, this hurts me,
all right. I keep I'm saying you

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say it. I'm gonna sit back
and let you say it. I keep

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myself very quiet about this, except
for my love for Sonic Advance Too,

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which I still maintain is one of
the best Sonic games. I sat through

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Dan playing All Sonic O six and
just quietly nodded my head and said like,

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yeah, this is this is a
bad game. This was a dark

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game. I mean you can play
it if you want to as well.

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No no, no, no,
no no no, it's okay, it's

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okay, it's okay, it's all
right. We al replayed it. We

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don't need to rehash that Sonic Superstars. I loaded this up because I was

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thinking, oh, you know,
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I don't want to put words in
Mike's mouth because he might jump in here

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because he's want to do as he
want to do. He's gonna get me

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here and say it's fine, which
is code for it's bad because he fine

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Sonic. When someone says fine,
you're you're just saying like it works,

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like it turns on and you can
play it. Listen. Sometimes I know

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I'm gonna need to say fine for
things. I don't want people to yell

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at me about so yeah most of
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I mean it everyone else, it
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the Hedgehog four, Yes, okay, cool, yeah, yeah, I

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really like Sonic all Stars Sonic Superstars. Oh boy, is this rough?

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This is this is not good,
gentlemen, This is not a good Sonic

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game. They had a good Sonic
game. Why didn't they do more of

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that? This? Wait, which
one are you referring to? Is the

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good one? All Stars? Sorry? Sorry? Okay? And I didn't

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know if like Frontiers had breached into
good and Frontiers? Is Frontiers is fun?

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You know? No, I'll back
you up, grub Frontiers. I'm

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like looking for it, Like,
what is frontiers? You said a lot

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with one syllable? There really questioning
fun mileage out of that. The thing

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is, there's no questioning about Sonic
Superstars here, like that that power that

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you get before, like the First
Boss where you just launch a bunch of

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Sonics. They're all dying like what
are we promoting here? And you look

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exactly like them? So you get
lost it's okay, skillishe whatever? And

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then you but it's like it's just
badly it's so uninspired. There's nothing to

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care about there. It's like it's
really really weak. It's obviously not made

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by a team that had a lot
of leeway to get very creative. With

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Sonic. They had a goal get
a Sonic game out re established Sonic with

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maybe this like slightly updated art style. That stuff they did well with everything

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else. I think the music's not
very good except for a few a few

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exceptions. I think that the feeling
is okay because it like that they just

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took what work with Sonic Media and
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So that stuff is mostly okay.
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and not interesting, and there's just
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is nothing where you feel like,
oh man, this is a spark of

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something new. It is always a
callback to the older Sonics and it's either

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exactly like that to the point where
it's like, okay, yeah, being

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underwater and having to get oxygen it's
memorable. Not actually a great gameplay mechanic,

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but memorable. And now we're just
doing exactly that again with no nothing

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sprinkled on top. No like,
hey, let's let's take that to the

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next level and do something with that. No, they aren't gonna do that.

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They never throughout this entire game,
they never do that, and I

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found myself getting pretty frustrated. And
then the boss fights are inane that they

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are inane That's the thing that bugs
me the most is like I enjoyed the

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format of the old or original boss
battles where it's like, all right,

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I can kind of cheessee this.
If I get stuck in this corner,

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I can keep bouncing on like Eggman's
head and then get rid of them super

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quick. They draw these boss battles
out so long when they don't need to

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be, and like, it just
completely stalls any momentum that you start to

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build up with a game, and
it just Sonics whole thing is about going

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fast. Sonic goes much faster in
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Yeah, well, it's a lot
a lot of waiting here. It is,

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Uh, you hit the boss once
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his entire routine again, and you're
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You got to just wait for him
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occasionally, after he gets through doing
his thing, you can force him back

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into a position where you can hurt
him again. But most of the time

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you're just waiting for that opportunity,
and there's nothing fun about that. It

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is just waiting and occasionally dodging some
stuff. But it's you're just sitting around

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so and then the final boss fight
is the worst offender with that stuff,

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and it's a lot of trial and
air. And I probably spent about forty

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five minutes on that boss fight.
It felt like hours. Like Mike warned

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me, it's like people a sand
it's gonna take hours. And I got

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really five minutes for the A Sonic
boss fight for the last Sonic buff fight,

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trying it over and over and over, and I probably tried like fifteen

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times. It is kind of where
I ended up. A lot of those

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were like tilted, like thirty second
attempts where I got hit early. I'm

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like, fuck this, I'm starting
over. But yeah, I like looked

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at the clock because I like texted
Mike and I said, I hate this

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game, and I've said that before
the boss fight. I'm in the last

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level. Just the last level is
actually really bad too. It is you're

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going through You're like, why is
this so weirdly designed? Why does this

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feel stilted and odd? And then
you realize it's because the way that they're

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elongating this game is you're going to
play that exact same level as soon as

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it's over. The second act is
spoilers for fucking Sonic Superstary Live with it.

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You're going to go back through that
level exactly the same, but everything

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is in reverse. So it's like
they just kind of up, yeah,

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exactly, so soon it's it's like, oh, so you just did a

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bad job designing it both ways and
just kind of called it a day.

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And so I'm like, I hate
this game. I could tell that this

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level is just complete shit already,
and then I got the boss fight a

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little bit after that, and that
was like probably an hour between that when

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I finally beat it. So I'm
like, I spent probably about forty five

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minutes on that boss and I hated
every second of it. It's bad,

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bad I had. I kept saying
that I beat this before I really played

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Wonder. So we played Wonder that
day. Thank God I got this to

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get some of that in there,
to like really give me the urge to

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beat this thing and get through it. But I got through it. And

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what do the gimmicks feel about it? Uh? So yeah this they Addie

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keeps going to it and she is
definitely getting something out of it, but

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she just really likes Sonic and I
think the way the characters look is pretty

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good. They got the fat little
you know, stumpy Sonic, which is

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quite shiny. They're shiny looking characters
at sam Yes, and I'm like,

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most of that stuff actually works surprisingly
well. Obviously I prefer sprites because I'm

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forty fucking years old, but they
did a good job of capturing that magic

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in this game to the point where
I'm like, I'm pretty happy with the

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look and and if this is going
to be the future of how these games

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are going to look, I think
that's just fine. But this is Sega

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and Sonic team going to our zes
the developer, and that's the developer of

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baland Wonderworld and the developer of Yoshi's
New Island. And it's like, that's

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the kind of level of quality that
you're going to get out of our zest

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because they are just going to do
a job. And if you don't give

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them good direction, you're gonna end
up with a balland Wonder World. If

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you give them kind of okay Nintendo
direction, you get a Yoshi's New Island,

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which is not good but not the
worst thing in the world. And

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that's kind of what this is.
It's not good, it's not the worst

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thing in the world, and that's
where you can. If you're a Sonic

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fan, I think you do come
away from this going maybe it's fine,

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or maybe you end up like Jan
and being like, especially Jane, you

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played Mario right before this. Yeah, that's not gonna help this game at

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all. It is doing it.
No favors. You can. You literally

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cannot go from Mario to this game. No one on Earth would have a

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good better time with this game than
with Mario. It's like one dude who

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is adamant that, Like, I
played both of them, Sonic's definitely better.

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No, yeah, there's eleven of
them out there. The most indefensible

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things. The people that get the
Mocha are the people that are big Sonic

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fans, and they're gonna like this
better than that. Absolutely, I disagree.

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I think most Mocha people will realize. I mean, I have not

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played Sonic, but I know Mario
is amazing, So I just want to

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set the record ste thank you.
I feel like it's it's similar to how

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Silent Hill fans must feel, where
it's like, hey, you know,

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we got something finally, We'll just
deal with it. It's cool. No,

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it's cool, it's fine. We're
satiated for now. Does any woudn't

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understand what that new Silent Hill thing
is that like Silent Hill interactive TV show

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that is coming out soon? Yeah? What is that? No? I

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don't I don't really understand. I
don't know. I'm mildly interested if when

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does it launch? And people in
check and shout out they want to help

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us there, because maybe we could
like sit in and watch the first episode

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and like and do that line.
Oh yeah, let's do an illegal stream

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and we don't okay, I like
that. Well. Speaking about going fast,

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Jeff Grubb, you've been going fast
in a car? Yeah, I

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played. I can't remember the name
of this game. I just call it

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Hot Wheels too. Is it super
charged? So what it's called? I

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trust turbo charge sounds right. This
is a sequel to the one that came

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out not that long ago, right
like during the pandemic with the Hot Wheels

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tracks and like tiny car, big
world type thing. Yes, exactly,

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the first the first stages at bedroom
gimmick by the way, a Big World

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Wheels, Hot Wheels Unleashed, two
colon turbo charged. Thank you. Yeh

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see, this is why I can't
remember. That's just a bone. That's

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word soup there, but whatever,
it's a good game. I was okay.

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So I played Turbo Charged one right
after I played Cruise and Blast.

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And Cruise and Blast is such a
roller coaster ride, like you could tell

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it's cheating to make sure it keeps
you doing the fun stuff. But I'm

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like, I like doing fun stuff, so that's great for me. I'm

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having a good time here, and
it's like obviously a port of an arcade

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game, but they did a pretty
good job of bringing it to the home

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and just making it feel like a
good time. And then I went to

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Hot Wheels and it's like this arcade
reser that's kind of like in between,

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like, Okay, you're gonna be
doing power power slides and stuff like that,

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but it's still going to try to
be some It's gonna it's still the

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vibes of something that's like a roller
coaster, but you're in control a lot.

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And I didn't like the way it
felt so much, and so I

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didn't stick with it. This one
I picked up, and either I'm in

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a different place or the game has
improved to the point where I'm like,

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I really like the way this one
feels now the power slides are very good.

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You are breaking into the turns and
then you're just feathering the break in

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the gas to make sure that you
could stay in the middle of the track.

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You're pulling out of the turn and
you're building up your it's it's a

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it's an arcade racer. You're building
up your power meter and then you're boosting

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out of that and you've got really
cool air control, something I think was

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in the first game. All that
stuff is just working better here than it

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did in the last one. Uh
So yeah, I'm like, I'm definitely

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in the mood for this game.
It's really hitting better than the first one

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for me, but I've played a
ton of it, so I'm not sure

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like what the variety is like and
what the unlocks are like. Seems like

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that stuff is pretty promising. But
in terms of the gimmick of Hey Little

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Cars, Big World, this is
another great one of those, and I

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like immediately was like, oh yeah, bedroom level, let's let's go.

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So yeah, I'm into it.
I wonder if is the air control gimmick

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and like the different controls and stuff, would it wouldn't make it so it

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would be hard on a steering wheel
because I was thinking about breaking out the

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steering wheel for that. Well,
let's think, yes, yeah, I

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probably would because I'm like some steering
wheels have like a dpad, but that's

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not going to give you need analog
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402
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to do full air control. I
don't know how an arcade racer that's going

403
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.440
to be for families. I don't
know how many levels are going to have

404
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:08.160
a requirement for you to do difficult
air control like Rocket League style air control.

405
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:11.559
You're like, okay, I am, do you want to jump off

406
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.279
this and now I want to be
upside down and sort of diagonal to hit

407
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:17.000
this track up here to continue this. They're not going to do a lot

408
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.079
of that, but maybe there are
some like shortcuts that take advantage of that.

409
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:23.440
Again, I haven't played a ton. I think that like having that

410
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:27.039
option in there to increase the skill
ceiling so you can get even more out

411
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.519
of this is probably pretty important to
like the long term enjoyment of this game.

412
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.680
But if you're just going in to
have a good time for a little

413
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:37.200
bit, maybe a racing bill could
be fun. I would probably recommend a

414
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.039
controller, though I think I'm in
the mood for a racing game. I

415
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.119
think, yeah, I didn't realize
it you describing it. It's like,

416
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.200
yeah, I think I could play
some of that right now. I think,

417
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:47.279
yeah, I think this is the
one that definitely check in on.

418
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.960
It's definitely working for me. I
was going to say the same. Yeah,

419
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:53.680
I love the first one a lot, especially the track builder. That

420
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:56.519
was tons of fun. Oh yeah, that makes sense. That could be

421
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.160
a good time. Yeah, yeah, I think like it's I think just

422
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:04.359
from a just a position of like
timing, this is gonna be a tough

423
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:10.200
one to like fit in right for
me. Yeah, It's it's a it's

424
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:12.839
you know, victim to the time
in which it's released, right, So

425
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.640
I'm just gonna have to like put
a pin in this one and then twenty

426
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.160
twenty four to five, whenever I
get around to it, is gonna have

427
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:23.680
to be the date for this one. But uh, it's what I'm putting

428
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:27.359
on my my Steam deck and I'm
gonna be okay, I'll be picking it

429
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:32.400
up there here and there. I
loved it. I love that first one.

430
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:36.039
Who's great. Have any of you
gentlemen ever used tilt controls while playing

431
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.559
something like Mario carton. No,
it's no jan, come on, what

432
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:41.799
do you I don't know, because
Dan was talking about like playing a racing

433
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.039
game with a wheel, and I
was like, you know, sometimes I

434
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.839
could just tilt that bad boy,
but it never works how I wanted to

435
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:51.400
work. You don't want it,
even even with the plastic gimmick like the

436
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:53.839
old Mario kartwee thing. You don't
want it. No, no, no,

437
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.960
do not ever because of that thing. I was just like, I

438
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.480
don't want to play. I know
you could play with controller, but I'm

439
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.319
like, fuck that. I don't
know. I never played it to me

440
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:07.400
here, it's really good levels.
I should go back and try it.

441
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.160
Does there'll be an eight eventually,
right, Yeah, I please run to

442
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.480
ten now because Mario Kart Mobile is
is nine according to Nintendo. You've got

443
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.000
to keep up, jam keep up. Oh my god? What is the

444
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:23.359
RC car one? Then? Oh
tour yeah, I know, live live

445
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:26.160
my way, tour live. I
think both words are in there, I

446
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:30.400
think, But uh, yeah,
he's gonna get a little car. Yeah,

447
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.680
I don't know. That was a
point five. I guess the kids

448
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:34.240
love that game. Man, it's
they've never actually played the game part.

449
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:37.559
They just ride it. Around and
see themselves in the camera. And then

450
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.839
last yeah, it's off. It's
fun. I just found the track stuff

451
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:44.759
to make the tracks, and I
have enough room in this basement, and

452
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:47.559
I'm like, I should just set
that up for like Christmas or something,

453
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:51.079
and that would be like I've got
the gift, like like two gift giving

454
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:56.640
opportunities out of that. And live
home circuit. Okay, there it is.

455
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:02.000
Home circuit. It's kind of a
tour. It's it's funny like how

456
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:06.799
they play in a home tour,
live circuit whatever we called it. Uh,

457
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.519
how when you're playing on your switch, it looks like you're going incredibly

458
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:14.359
fast, but then when you look
at the actual Mario Kart in real life,

459
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.200
it's just going. Is that Is
that the theory of relativity because it's

460
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:22.799
smaller that like speed is, affects
it different. I'm not ready to describe

461
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:27.799
physics right now. Sure the questions
like or not, hey answer and fast

462
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:33.160
and they're tiny. Listen answer fast. I saw the movie Clock Stoppers ASI

463
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:40.079
and it has messed me up.
The French Stewart Classic Clock Stoppers French cinema

464
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:44.640
of course, cinema financial And then
he had said, oh, we're not

465
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.559
really stopping time, so we're just
going really fast. Didn't know Jan had

466
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:53.039
a great French. I didn't know
either, and I'm kind of a shamed

467
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.079
that I do. I just want
to see your face when you did that

468
00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:57.960
voice, an, could you just
do that one more time for me?

469
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:07.160
It's not we're not really stopping pie, We're going fast. When Little Jimmy

470
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.839
Stewart is a monologue and it's just
stuck with me, and it's just like

471
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:13.240
one of those stupid things you hear
as a kid of like, no,

472
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:19.799
he's right, Frinch Stewart, Jimmy
Stewart's son. That would be messed up.

473
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:27.160
I'm not looking at differently. Yes, Jimmy Stewart. Yeah, they

474
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.640
sounded like that. Huh huh.
Well that's just my head canon now,

475
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:36.359
uh huh uh. God, what's
another Stewart related to them? Little Stewart

476
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.400
John John, Yeah, Stuart,
the guy from Mad TV, the one

477
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:49.440
with the legs. God man,
any time Mad TV comes up, I

478
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.200
feel like other folks will just get
filled with rage and disgust, and I

479
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:55.200
get filled with joy. I mean
that makes sense. It just makes me

480
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.920
think of in living color, and
then I get happy. That's where yeah,

481
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.359
that's Will Sasso up to He's in
stuff. He's in stuff. He's

482
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:09.200
always got like, he's got speaking
lines in shows. I see him a

483
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:15.599
lot, he will right there,
two different people, like the ginger stand

484
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.279
up comedian who always goes hot pockets. That guy. Yeah, okay,

485
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:25.240
Will Sasso. Will Sash appeared on
Raw as Hulk Hogan once. That's cool.

486
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:29.599
He's in a lot of No,
he's in a lot of stuff.

487
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:32.920
Like I'm just looking at his wiki
recently. He just finds his stuff in

488
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.200
like everything. I feel like I
see him on a bunch of streaming shows

489
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:42.039
where he's just Will and Jim Gafkin
are different than the Mad TV guy that

490
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.039
did the impressions, right, Who's
Who's that? That's the guy who does

491
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:52.319
Madden. Yes, okay, all
right, okay, I'm just trying to

492
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:53.880
keep him all straight. I've played
Madden with him. I don't know,

493
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:59.880
I don't know how you confuse Sasso
and gaffigin that to me is like there

494
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:06.440
they're white pasty comedians. Not really. I mean, okay, it's fine

495
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:12.440
on behalf of all pasty people.
No, But Jeff Greb that was a

496
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:16.840
wild swing of a comparison there and
speaking about Swinging Marvel Spider Man two.

497
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:20.599
I don't know if anyone else has
anything to say about it. It's a

498
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:23.480
good game. I like it.
Fucking amazing, is what I'll say.

499
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:28.639
I back, Have you guys beaten
it? No? Come on, I

500
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:32.920
stopped finished at you jumped off you. I stopped after I did all of

501
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:37.320
the side stuff and I had ten
story missions left. And you don't want

502
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.559
to see what happens. You don't
care what happens with with Spider Man's absolutely

503
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.320
not meet the spider Mans. Can
I can I ask this is a a

504
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:49.719
Mike manatty point that I fully agree
with The people in this game smile too

505
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.400
much. Sure, yeah, they're
like, uh, they're like they look

506
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.199
like real dolls sometimes. Sure,
I know. Wait, I have trouble

507
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:01.599
trusting any of the Osbourne's as is
because of I just know their characters from

508
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:06.960
the comics and movies. Uh,
and just seeing that motherfucker smile all the

509
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.800
time. It's like, I don't
I don't believe you're you're genuine here,

510
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:14.639
Jerry Dan. You bounced off this
game because of the storyline. Is that

511
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.760
what am I to believe? Honestly, didn't mind the story itself for the

512
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:22.400
way they were portraying like it's it's
They're doing a good job in the cinematics

513
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:27.239
and everything. It's just all those
story missions were very long, already boring

514
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:32.320
compared to I like the open world
stuff. Commata. Yes, I just

515
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:36.400
not my I don't care enough about
Spider Man to push through because of that.

516
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:38.480
So I got to that one Mary
James sneaking around the house things like,

517
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:42.519
you know, I'm good. I
got a good get the Halo pistol

518
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.039
though, and that feels pretty cool. Yeah, it's pretty the shocking,

519
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:50.760
Yeah, it's it's pretty cool.
Jan Does Harry Osbourne look like Ruffio to

520
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.480
you because he does to me?
No, No, no, he said

521
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:57.320
that out loud on a podcast,
didn't he, Jen, I'm just gonna

522
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:01.599
we just move on. I just
the Filipino American community does not claim Harry

523
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:09.519
Osborg nor do we condone the statements. If Harry Osbourton was, like,

524
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.480
you know, a person of color, that would be problematic. But if

525
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.480
a white person looks like Rufio,
that's just weird. I don't he doesn't.

526
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:20.320
I don't think, but like,
just empirically, I do not think

527
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:22.920
he looks like him. No,
you know. I like, That's why

528
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:24.039
I asked, because I looked.
I went back and looked him like,

529
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:27.760
why was I thinking he doesn't?
But like for some reason in my head,

530
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.599
and I'll say, there, Grub, you're not wrong. There is

531
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.159
something weird about how Harry, the
way Harry just fucking looks. It has

532
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:37.920
nothing to do with looking like Rufio. But Rufio the Kingdom Heart? Who

533
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:43.199
is Rufio Hook Hook? Dante Bosker
like Captain Hook. He's Captain Hook.

534
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:45.679
No, no, no, he's
Rufeo. He's the leader of the Lost

535
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:49.679
Boys. It's like, you've never
seen anything from Disney. I've never seen

536
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:53.119
Hook. Have you never seen Dustin
Hoffman and Robin Williams and Bob Hoskins going

537
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:58.679
at it and are all very talented
actors. But Peter Peny Stielburg's Hook.

538
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.559
I remember Spielberg made that, Okay, I just remember it looked lame as

539
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:08.320
a kid, and the most arguably
engaging presence in Disney didn't make Cook.

540
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:21.760
Disney didn't make Cook. Hear you
Disney cough in silence? Could a bridged

541
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:30.599
version of his yellow No. No, I've heard that so many times now,

542
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:32.480
and it took me a few listens
to realize he layered in a couple

543
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:36.159
of his name is Mike, like
in the background, like a couple of

544
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:40.719
times there's death. Yeah yeah,
it's mixed. It's like completely produced.

545
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.800
You know who, Harry has time
on his hands, right, you know

546
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:49.320
who? Harry Osborne looks like he
looks like the actor Will Poulter because they

547
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.519
have that same like sure face,
good, Wow, you've got a good

548
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:58.559
will Poulter. Will Poulter is a
good poll Jan, I'm just showing my

549
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:04.920
acting chops here, folks face.
Yeah yeah, I could never get my

550
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.760
face to do that, but if
I asked it to, this is incredible.

551
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:12.639
Back, let go ahead, Just
like a dude who always looks like

552
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:15.960
he's surprised at something, right,
like, yeah, he's stuck like that.

553
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.400
What you got to do to get
a good will polter face, I

554
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:22.119
guess is uh and be a little
poulter Geist shouts out to the Poltergeist Gang,

555
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:27.360
that's what his fans call themselves.
Of course you got to play a

556
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:31.440
game of little face at the dinner
table. I think I know what this

557
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:34.800
is, but I want to hear
you describe it. I think this was

558
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:39.159
a bit from Workaholics where to.
Whoever has to cover the tip for the

559
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:43.760
bill or doesn't have to cover the
tip, is the person that can make

560
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:49.039
the smallest face by scrunching their face
the smallest Yeah, I feel like Adam

561
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:51.760
Devine stuff like that. No,
no, no, it has to be

562
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:54.719
all face muscles. So so this
is gonna play great for audio listeners.

563
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:59.320
But let's take a quick round like
ba grub. Prepare. I'm gonna give

564
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:01.400
you a count to three to make
the smallest face you can that hurts your

565
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:07.800
face it one two three, small
face? Nothing changed, nothing changed,

566
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:14.280
right, okay, damn? Count
of three to make the smallest face you

567
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:19.760
can, right, one two three, small face? No, no,

568
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.440
nothing's moving there, all right,
all right, Jeff Beckel already one two

569
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:39.000
three, small face, really red
though even his voice got tiny. I

570
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:42.960
don't know if I can measure up
to that. That's a really small face.

571
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:50.639
All right, And here's my he's
condensing you got to pay the tip.

572
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:52.920
Fine, I know we cover the
tip. Al right, everyone at

573
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:57.039
home, here's your chance to do
a small face. Count of three,

574
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.840
everybody, everyone listening live in the
archive, make a small face, a

575
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:07.159
small as over in three two one
small face. Wow, that was really

576
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.880
good. That's really how small you
got. That's kind of alarming. Don't

577
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:15.280
don't do that anymore. Good work, everyone, Good work. Anyone else

578
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.039
got anything to bring up? Before
we get to the game of the week?

579
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:21.239
Will Poulter the are you guys are
getting paid? Kay? Is that

580
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:24.199
him from the meme you guys are
getting paid? Oh? Yeah? Yeah?

581
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:28.519
Yeah him as like a teen right, yeah, totally that's him.

582
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:30.119
Okay, all right, I just
want to keep my Polter straight. I've

583
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:37.320
been messing around with the Meta Quest
three and the uh the ar stuff is

584
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:42.280
pretty interesting, but it is definitely
in that VR tech demo realm of like

585
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.480
this is interesting for this particular free
thing that they put on here to show

586
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.960
off this technology, which I don't
know if you've seen it, but like

587
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:52.559
I went into a big, like
rectangular empty room and it's basically says,

588
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.480
here's where the walls are, and
the way you scan everything with it is

589
00:40:55.719 --> 00:41:00.760
really easy actually setting up the boundaries
and all that, and with the pass

590
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:02.880
through it's full color now and everything
so you can see, like I can

591
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:06.760
walk around the house with it on. I'm going upstairs talked abound like it's

592
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:10.000
actually like way way better now.
So I went in that room did the

593
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:13.679
thing, and so it looks to
me like I'm just walking around like my

594
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.199
shoot room there, and then all
of a sudden you hear these noises and

595
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:22.559
the little spaceship crashes through the ceiling, real ceiling, and then it's sitting.

596
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.280
It flies around the room and it
lands, and it's really effective because

597
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.760
I'm walking around the room and I
actually, like at one point was walking

598
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.440
and then I tried to like not
hit it with my foot and I was

599
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:31.880
like, wait, that's not that's
that's a work in spaceship. That's not

600
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:37.960
that's not there. And then all
these like little like like Bug Triple Triple,

601
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:43.679
the Star Trek things, they start
like headbutting the walls and breaking in.

602
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:49.199
And so as your actual walls and
ceilings start getting like broken, you

603
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.079
see that your room is in.
It's like on an alien planet, and

604
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.519
so and your walls keep getting knocked
away as you're shooting at them and stuff.

605
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:00.599
So by the end you're basically like
you see your floor, but it's

606
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:06.440
just like you're standing on like Mars
or something. And it's actually super effective.

607
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:07.599
I mean, I don't know how
many games are going to utilize this.

608
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:13.039
It feels like, you know,
Astro's playroom utilizing a bunch of weird

609
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:15.679
controller stuff then nothing else ever,
will you know? Sure? But does

610
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:21.199
does the the walls that are breaking
line up kind of pretty close to your

611
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.960
real world walls exactly? Yeah?
Okay, See that's that's encouraging because that

612
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:29.239
means they really can line up all
these digital things in the world and you

613
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:31.000
probably can do a lot with that. But I'm like want people to like

614
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:36.639
go in and like mod out like
Conan O'Brien from Death Stranding and just have

615
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:38.760
him be like a virtual assistant with
this thing you can have around your house

616
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:42.400
or whatever stuff like that. That's
that's where I want this to go.

617
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.000
And I hope the Medicalist three can
like have that sort of ecosystem where people

618
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:49.840
are just doing crazy stuff with it. If I have to rely on Facebook

619
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.559
to support it, that's what I'm
worried about. I don't know if you

620
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.239
do anymore, Well, you don't
have to sign into Facebook for Facebook owns

621
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:58.679
oculus, Oh of course, Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah,

622
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:00.519
there is some smart stuff'm seeing now
where it's like there's a boxing game called

623
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:04.400
Thriller The Fight. It's kind of
like a cartoony you know, like punch

624
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.159
out style boxing game, which I
always wanted to try more. But when

625
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:12.320
you are swinging punches, even if
you set up a boundary exactly where you

626
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.079
want it, it's not a good
feeling to to swing by, Like it's

627
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.320
just not fun to play. But
with the pass through, like ar thing,

628
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:22.639
it just looks like the guys are
in your room and so it's so

629
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.039
much easier to avoid you know,
the walls and all the stuff on your

630
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:30.119
floor or whatever. It's it's kind
of cool. How is it Telerope Boxer,

631
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.760
Like that's a virtual boy reference Hot
hot reference? Yeah, yes,

632
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:37.559
Dan, how good? Good is
it about? Like tracking your hand placement

633
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:42.920
and like how tactile is it or
is it just kind of like tracking like

634
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.280
your hands when you're when you're holding
like the controllers. It's pretty much the

635
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:50.199
same as like the previous quests,
Like it's it's pretty one to one.

636
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.800
Yeah, it works really well.
There's cool things where it's like like the

637
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:57.239
uh I never did much of the
hand tracking stuff without the controllers on previous

638
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.719
quests, but I did it here
and it's cool because like your menu where

639
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:05.119
you launch your library or settings or
anything like that. It just shows up

640
00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:07.079
like a screen that's floating. It
looks like it's like as big as like

641
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.159
a big iPad, and it's floating
in space, and you can just like

642
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:13.679
walk through your actual room and just
like you grab it, you bring it

643
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:15.559
over here. Okay, I'm tapping
this. I'm watching this game like it's

644
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:19.800
in terms of the quality of life, like just wearing it and feeling like

645
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.760
you're still kind of part of the
real world and walking around your house.

646
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:25.119
It's kind of handy, like you
can. It's it's weird because it's using

647
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:29.000
several different cameras and stitching them together, so like if you're looking at a

648
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:30.519
text or something, or if you
need to use your phone, it's kind

649
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:32.800
of like, well, okay,
you got to be dead center otherwise it

650
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.199
starts kind of wharping. But it's
the pass through is a million times better.

651
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:42.159
Say that. In terms of the
game stuff and everything still VR games,

652
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:44.360
you know, there weren't like a
lot of like killer apps or anything

653
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:45.920
like that. I played a mini
golf game. It was pretty fun.

654
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:50.000
There's I Expect you to die three. I did like a Less Mills body

655
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.159
combat like all this shit that you
know, it's it feels like VR games

656
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.880
have always been. But I am
going to play a half live Alex now.

657
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.360
Oh cool, Yeah, I'm excited
to hear about that. Yeah.

658
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:06.800
I was thinking with its sounding like
the pass through is exponentially better than it's

659
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:10.960
been, and with it tracking your
hands really well, there has to be

660
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:16.119
some type of like good like I
don't know, exercise program or boxing program

661
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:21.000
to like really help you work on
your form or whatever, because I think

662
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:25.119
some of my biggest problems with like
VR boxing games in the past or whatever

663
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:29.840
similar to that is like you're kind
of just whaling right, and then you're

664
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:34.800
just building a bad muscle memory versus
like a VR game kind of like not

665
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.760
doing it strictly, but kind of
like really enforcing the form aspect of it,

666
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.559
kind of like how ring fit.
You know, you really have to

667
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.760
play with the pilates ring really well
versus just squeezing it like a like a

668
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:49.920
weirdo. Yeah. Yeah, I
don't think we're there yet. Like I

669
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.719
played the Body Combat thing and it's
just every VR it's just things flying at

670
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:55.719
you and you punching it and then
just canned response to everything. I think

671
00:45:55.719 --> 00:46:00.880
it's it's not what most people want
right, like, oh you want it?

672
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:05.239
Yeah, I think it got close
to body tracking. It's probably pretty

673
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.719
good at that stuff, but it's
like that's a lot of extra work and

674
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:09.400
people just want to punch the thing
I think is what they think. We

675
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:14.280
have to add shock pads to it. So yeah, we can write something

676
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.360
wrong. The best for the genesis
that you can feel every punch in Mortal

677
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.559
Kombat. That's right, bactivator?
Yeah, and Res. What's the one

678
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:27.599
for RES? The trans media vibrator
or something like that. Yeah, yeah,

679
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.840
yep, that's that was a thing, right that that was a thing

680
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:35.440
something like that. Why something?
Because they want you to feel the music.

681
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:37.199
Okay, I don't know. You
have to asked the Reds freaks.

682
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:40.119
I'm not a RES guy, shouts
out. You and I have a lot

683
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:44.800
of similar good opinions, I think. So we're definitely right about RES.

684
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:46.760
Yes, and no one will with
us. Yes, and many things.

685
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:52.559
Yes, absolutely greed something in medias. I'll find the joke. I'll come

686
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:57.880
back to it. Uh huh.
Played a little metal your solid collection it

687
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.719
Uh, it's those games with some
little bonus is some music player and some

688
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:06.519
books you can zoom in on and
scroll between it's uh, it's I'm glad.

689
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:10.480
I'm glad they're out there, and
that's it's available for people who were

690
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:13.280
like just coming to it now and
go like, okay, where do I

691
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:16.079
get these games? Oh, you're
fucked until this for this is this is

692
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:19.880
not for you though, because you
have no No, I've played them a

693
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:22.119
million times. And also I would
play like on shoot hardware on a CRT,

694
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.320
you know, like so yeah,
no, I'm glad it exists if

695
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:29.519
it means middle Gear gets to you
know, get to more people. But

696
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:31.559
it's it's like three D all Stars
in a way where it's like, yeah,

697
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:35.760
okay, these are all here.
Now it's got a little bit more

698
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:37.119
bonus stuff and that I didn't know
it was going to have, like VR

699
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:42.119
missions and the digital graphic novel and
stuff like that. So like it is

700
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:46.159
a little more robust than I expected, but it's it's those games easier to

701
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:50.760
play now. Tan Which games are
included in the collection? One? Two,

702
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:55.239
three VR missions, Metal Gear and
middle Gear two, the MSX games

703
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:58.559
and Snakes Revenge. Weirdly, that's
how you can tell this is not a

704
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:02.239
good Gama project. This is an
economy project. Yes, it's been a

705
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:07.239
minute since I've played through three I
played for it a year or two ago.

706
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:12.559
It's still awesome. Okay, played
an hour of the three DS and

707
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.360
that's all I've ever played. I
know, I know, I know I

708
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:19.840
need to play them, and I
want to find some time. I'll do

709
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:23.119
it. I could. Yeah,
this makes me just want to play five

710
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:30.039
again. Five five five five rules
that whole thing again, jam, Like,

711
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:32.079
what are you doing? I bought
it for five bucks the other day

712
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:37.400
on Steam, so it's like,
well, this is Any time with this

713
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:42.800
is great. Just send attach a
parachute to some dude. That was fine.

714
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.119
I enjoyed that game. Game man. Any any time you give me

715
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:50.559
a rocket punch, I'll love it. Just every game should have a rocket

716
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:53.360
punch. Any game where you shoot
a thing and then you control it,

717
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:57.440
Like remember like Heavenly Sword, you
could shoot the arrows and then like six

718
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:04.280
axis. Yes like you yeah,
you're right, Yeah, I love I

719
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:09.840
love Heavenly Sword. I'm proud of
you. Finally, it's pretty good.

720
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:15.400
Feel free where Yeah, what's the
last time that gimmick has popped up?

721
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:22.159
Other than like gear stranglehold? You
could you can make the recently that had

722
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:27.519
the Patriot arrow from Robin Hood Men
and Tights. Oh that thank you for

723
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:30.800
bringing up You're welcome. Absolutely God, how many times I watch that movie

724
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:34.320
on HBO and I was like,
oh, we're probably neck and neck,

725
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.400
but folks are saying Assassin's Creed.
Of course it's Assassin. Yeah, that's

726
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:43.679
what I'm definitely thinking, Assassin's Creed. Like where Yeah, I don't know.

727
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.000
All right, folks, Well it's
time to get to the game of

728
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:52.039
the week and the game. Let
me try and fix this dogs a real

729
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:58.519
quick The Game of the Week,
Super Mario Brothers, Wonder Yo, Holy

730
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.760
Ship. Okay, I just have
one one quick thing to say and then

731
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:05.760
I'll let you Mario freaks take over
this. There's some levels here. It's

732
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:09.440
hard. The challenge levels little diffy, A little diffy. Yeah, that

733
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:13.559
second one, you want to get
everything. I think it's harder to find

734
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:15.559
everything, and that's by design,
you know. I haven't found a platform

735
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:21.880
itself to be super hard. Is
mostly the challenge level with the uh the

736
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.360
wall jump badge where you like jump
up vertically. I love that ship.

737
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:29.360
Yeah, it's the one with like
the spinning platforms. It's very early on

738
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:31.800
and I was just stuck for the
longest time. Yeah, it's keep doing

739
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:37.400
it with someone else too. Yeah, Like especially like that first the challenge

740
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:42.239
with the running of the hippo thing
or whatever, the hobos. Yeah,

741
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.039
there was two other people playing.
There was a lava level in like World

742
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.679
six that I was doing yesterday,
which by the way, I was in

743
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:52.760
like a Canadian airport for six hours
playing this the entire time yesterday and just

744
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:55.960
having a blast. And uh there's
it's one where there's like this platform that

745
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.599
keeps going in and out of the
lava and it's just easy to die.

746
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:02.440
That's right now. Yeah. Yeah, And I was playing like other random

747
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:06.880
people were in there and we all
kept dying, but then one would be

748
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:08.800
a live to save. So like
we helped each other through that level.

749
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:13.199
Like I wasn't playing multiplayer traditionally,
but the idea of like, wow,

750
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:15.199
we're all playing this level right now
and helping each other out and we're hitting

751
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:19.719
the thing to like thank each other
every time incredible. It's like Journey.

752
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:21.519
Yeah, you know, it's like, oh, I don't know who these

753
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:24.199
people are, so we are helping
each other out. It really is a

754
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:28.000
strand game, Like that's not even
a Jeff, Yeah, it is an

755
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:32.440
actual four shoot strand game. It's
wild, and it's wild how well it

756
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:37.280
works. It's so much fun to
make friends in the moment. Yeah from

757
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:39.400
Nintendo, Like, yeah, like
I'll have a buddy. Like sometimes people

758
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:43.880
will be like not recognizing that you're
in trouble and needing help. That's very

759
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:45.840
rare. Most of the time,
it's like someone's like, oh, I

760
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:47.480
was just doing my own thing,
but now I see the one person's a

761
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.280
ghost, I'm gonna go there and
rescue them and see that hard thing.

762
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:52.280
Yeah, yeah, you get the
hard And sometimes it's like, well,

763
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.119
I just rescued you. We're best
friends. Now let's go through the rest

764
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:58.960
of this level together. And that
was happening with me on the Lava level

765
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:01.679
where we were just like having each
other's backs and I'd like to like go

766
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:05.119
through it and try to beat it
on my own, but I'm like,

767
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.239
I haven't turned that off because it's
it's kind of special. Makes the game

768
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:10.800
feel more alive to have these moments
where suddenly we're helping each other out and

769
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:14.400
we are rescuing each other throughout the
rest of other things. So yeah,

770
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:15.559
or somebody left to standing in a
place where it's like oh shit, I

771
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:19.239
didn't know you get up there.
Like, that's super helpful. I played

772
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.199
a lot of it on the plane
with no Wi Fi and it turned out

773
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:24.760
just an amazing fucking Mario game anyway. But then when I got to the

774
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:28.320
airport lounge and I got connected,
I was like, Oh, this is

775
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:30.599
actually I like this a lot better. This is this is awesome. I

776
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:35.360
mean us playing that that multiplayer mode, the friend mode, it works pretty

777
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.280
much the same way stuff. You
can initiate races and stuff. But that

778
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:43.119
was a really cool way to sort
of discover the early parts of that game

779
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.039
where it's like, hey, yeah, you could do this, and hey

780
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.400
I found this thing and we're talking
it out. But like once that that

781
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:51.559
the voice the voices go away,
a lot of that stuff remains. Like

782
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:57.039
you said, like there are levels
specifically about finding hidden stuff, and it's

783
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:00.239
like it's just a couple It's like
a big room and you're gonna have try

784
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.639
to do a couple of tricks with
the platforming or find a hidden block or

785
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:07.760
something or used to power ups in
a special way, and having like three

786
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:12.800
other people or four other people mess
around and try to do that simultaneously.

787
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:15.800
And you could like you can't really
see exactly what they're doing, but you

788
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:17.320
could see what power up they have. And then they put a standy down,

789
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:20.719
like maybe where you're supposed to be, like, okay, they're trying

790
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:22.760
to tell me something. You go
stand over there and you look around,

791
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:24.239
you think, and usually it clicks
in the place. And I found that

792
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:28.559
a really cool way to experience those
levels as well. It doesn't feel like

793
00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:31.320
cheating. It just feels like playground
talk coming into the game in a really

794
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:37.400
excellent way. It feels like the
next evolution of Mario to me, And

795
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:42.079
like the amount of ideas per square
inch in this game is just like nonstock,

796
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:45.039
Like the new enemies, the ability
to just kind of swap between all

797
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:49.360
these characters on the fly, like
there are just so many new elements here

798
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.000
that I'm like this, there's a
new voice actor. You know. This

799
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:53.679
feels like kind of a turning point
for Mario in a really cool way.

800
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:58.119
I thought the fireworks dudes you can
carry around and they shoot the fireworks,

801
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:01.719
the mummies where you got to pull
theirs should uh, there's bullet built torpedo

802
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:07.480
ted. Now we got missile Meg. We got Missile Meg. Big fan

803
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:10.719
of that, Yes, the guys
would that have their like tail singing down

804
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:14.400
where you could swing on them and
stuff the ground that drops that puts a

805
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:16.760
little ball out and then yeah,
yeah, not good feeling stuff. A

806
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:19.920
huge recondend. Yeah, go ahead, Dan, oh, I was just

807
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:22.320
gonna say a huge recommendation. Uh. I brought the SMEs controller for the

808
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:28.199
switch, uh and I played with
that this whole weekend. It that dpad

809
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:30.440
is really solid and there's no drawback. I mean, the only thing is

810
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:34.480
like there are something you could do
like this or motion, you know for

811
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:37.639
some of those things. I never
used the motion anyway, So if you

812
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:40.000
don't care about that, it is
like an ideal controller for this game.

813
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:45.159
Okay, that's that sounds good,
Just to take a just like pigs the

814
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:46.320
bag zoom out a little bit.
I think this game, you know,

815
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:50.880
it's funny because I've been playing a
lot with my kid and we actually Stacey

816
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:53.199
has been playing it too. Oh
cool. She's a big like Alice in

817
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:58.960
Wonderland person. And I do think
like the wonder part is like maybe a

818
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:01.119
bit of like, hey, drugs
are all right, aren't they? Kind

819
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:05.119
of thing about this game. It's
always been implied with Mario, but Oh

820
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:10.360
yeah, it's a carpenter plumber totally. She said something that kind of stuck

821
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:15.159
with me where it was like she's
like, this is like someone else like

822
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:19.239
made this game, that's not Nintendo
trying to do it, Like and obviously

823
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:22.199
we know that's not true, but
I understand her outside perspective of like it's

824
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:29.519
so different and so but still very
much the same hallmarks and all the same

825
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:35.719
you know feeling that you get when
you play a side scrolling Mario platform.

826
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:42.000
Or it's something about the injection of
new Blood into this that is like really

827
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:49.079
resonating in a way that I I
it is so expertly crafted, I cannot

828
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.920
like, Man, this is feels
right, It feels good. Every new

829
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.599
idea is not like just slapped together, it's refine. Yeah, it's just

830
00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:00.719
there's joy in this that was nowhere
in that new series. Oh yeah,

831
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:05.239
yeah, I thought this when we
were playing this on UPF last week.

832
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.400
But like, this puts any and
all of those new Super Mario Brothers games

833
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:15.719
absolute shame. Liked to think about
now, and I like, I liked

834
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:19.440
playing that the we one. I
think it's the best. I really enjoyed

835
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:22.880
playing that game. When I think
back on it now I get sad.

836
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:28.039
It's that's a bummer. When you
opened up you know, it's like Sonic

837
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:31.960
Superstars when you open up Ascension and
all these things in Zelda, it's like

838
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:37.400
going back to like Breath of the
Wild. Is now this like shackled experience?

839
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:42.480
Right? Yeah? It really is
amazing that, like it is just

840
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:47.159
so fresh and so so like almost
I don't want to say like risky,

841
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:52.960
but just like a lot of just
wild liberties that I just take you see,

842
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:57.960
Yeah, like damn and you you
mentioned it's it's feels so fresh.

843
00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:00.840
And obviously a lot of that comes
from them like opening U up to a

844
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:02.000
bunch of the young people that work
in Nintendo and saying, just give us

845
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:07.159
your ideas. Everyone's free to come
here and contribute to it. But it's

846
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:12.480
so continued to contiguous about who's making
this game, these games. Five people

847
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:15.679
worked on Super Mario Brothers. Four
of them worked on this game. Four

848
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:20.840
of those five people that worked on
Super Mario Brothers forty fucking years the original

849
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.400
one. Yes, super Mario Brothers, four of them worked on this.

850
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:28.599
Of those five, that's how can
I leave that long? What do they

851
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:30.920
do today? I was, I
was so happy playing Mario Wonder twenty like

852
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:35.480
when they did it. It's crazy
how many things, just from your entire

853
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:38.199
life, your entire childhood, things
that you've loved, have maintained their relevancy

854
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:43.239
and level of quality the way Mario
has and every other series you know goes

855
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:45.159
away, comes back. There's peaks, there's valleys. The TV shows get

856
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:49.000
canceled, movie series and they have
their ups and downs and stuff like that.

857
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.119
Mario, for my entire fucking life, since I was four and played

858
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:55.280
the first one, every single one
of those games has just been I would

859
00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:58.840
die for the Star Wars prequels to
be as good as the new Super Mario

860
00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:01.559
Brothers games. That would be excuse
me, they are that Sunshine was a

861
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:07.440
game, was a game, is
on fantastic game. No one's like,

862
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:10.440
no one's forgetting about that. It's
one of the weaker ones, but it

863
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:14.440
is the best platformer of that generation, almost like it's up there, it's

864
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:19.239
it's it's an incredible game. Still, I would Delphino Island music is in

865
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:22.440
this game that made me so goddamn
happy. It's just straight up just to

866
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:23.719
shoot track. It's like not even
like a take on it's just like this

867
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:27.840
is just Delphino Island. I get
your point, Dan, I take offence

868
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.719
with like it's infallible, Like,
uh, I'm not saying it's infallible straight

869
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:34.440
up said a billion times that,
like there are levels that are just like

870
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:38.119
the Patinko thing, the the raft
lily Pad level, Like there's no,

871
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:42.679
no, not not infallible, but
sunshine. I'm I'm talking about the lineage

872
00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:46.599
of like Mario games I think,
but like if you like track the quality

873
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:50.519
level like and then and then you
do that thing where you have like a

874
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:55.039
straight line the line average it out. That's only Yeah, it's least like

875
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:59.599
oh, no one, no one, No serious person would try and argue

876
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:02.960
that it's like a bad season from
Wing BRETX. It's it's amazing. It's

877
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:07.599
a it's amazing. The the you
know, like the legacy of it is

878
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:10.440
untouchable for sure. Yeah, I'm
with you because I was the first thing

879
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:14.000
that popped up to my mind when
you brought that up. Dan was like,

880
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:19.719
oh, tony Hawk, but then
there are oh hard and went away.

881
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:22.559
Yeah. First, Skater five is
one of the worst things that's ever

882
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:28.440
happened to me. It's unbelievable.
Project eight is it hurts me inside no

883
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:30.679
Project eight, I like, grub
have you opened your skateboard for Blake Love

884
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:36.840
tomorrow? Huh? Very funny.
If you make me play a motion control

885
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:38.840
game, I'm gonna go insane.
Actually, so okay, what if it

886
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:44.760
was Tony Hawk in those boxes?
That makes it all box? Oh?

887
00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:51.119
By the way, Dan, Stephanie
Grubb is pretty upset with you. Why

888
00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:53.440
because you're like, hey, this
is gonna take twenty minutes. And my

889
00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:55.599
my mother in law was here and
like they were taking a look at like

890
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:59.800
the email together getting the stuff ready, and they were both like, what

891
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:02.400
is this guy on? What is
he talking about? This thing that he

892
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:06.480
says to do would not will network. I have no idea what it is.

893
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:08.000
I'm not allowed to go in the
wandering room for think. I made

894
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:15.320
some assumptions about technology, clothing,
technology that I don't know if I know

895
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:19.760
what? Can they know that?
They know that you made some assumptions about

896
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:22.400
things that just don't work that way, And so they spent like an hour

897
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:29.320
trying to come up with some new
solution for what you want. I'll like

898
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:31.239
go on five her and get someone
else. Now they're determined to like get

899
01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:36.320
it right she's she's getting it there. But yeah, like, hey,

900
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:38.639
this guy's an idiot. I'm like, I know, I don't know how

901
01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:45.119
clothes work. Christ So that's gonna
be Blake Club on Wednesday, everybody,

902
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:46.239
if you want to tune in for
that, I have no idea what you

903
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:51.519
can desn to, like maybe clean
up my beard a little bit on the

904
01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:54.039
side for something. So oh boy, okay, oh oh, if you

905
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:57.719
want to go full gimmick, yeah
yeah, all right, we'll see what

906
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:01.239
happens. All right, super others
wonder it does the thing, and it

907
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:06.760
was very pure to watch your reaction
Dan to like every little thing. But

908
01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:10.400
then I continue to have that reaction
every little world, and especially in the

909
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:14.599
Overworld. You know, it's like
normally there's nothing to do in that map,

910
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:16.400
right, but there's we found that
little bit for the series. They

911
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:20.239
had the best overworld of all time
in Super Mario World, like yeah,

912
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:24.320
yeah, but like now, like
you're encouraged to explore through there you meet

913
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:29.440
some little goofy goobers. As as
you journey. They love the goobers.

914
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:31.039
They're like, you're going through the
desert and here's like a Marise you know,

915
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:35.000
whole level. You know, Oh, here's a tiny little puzzle in

916
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:37.199
the in the desert that like,
oh, I press these things and this

917
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:40.760
happened, like it's it's so the
game has so much personality and joy just

918
01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:45.119
seeping out of every bore. I
like the flowers too. I like that

919
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:51.519
they talk. They're kind of funny. They don't get cringe or whatever the

920
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:52.920
kids say like never do. It's
just kind of like cute and fun.

921
01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:58.920
They got like I want to be
friendly with that flag is Dane. Uh,

922
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:02.719
someone in my fan only has a
request. Oh, I don't know

923
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:07.199
what it is about the flowers and
they're talking, but like my kid thinks

924
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:13.239
you are the flowers, like you
you there's something about the flowers. They

925
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:16.559
just say like well I've been here
for a while like stuff like that.

926
01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:21.639
I always say that, Yeah,
I don't know why he he just is

927
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:27.519
like Dan has to be the flowers. And I interpret next next Mario moviegoers,

928
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:30.320
Well sure, but the way I
interpreted his his statement right, his

929
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:34.559
sort of request if you will,
is that I just want to see you

930
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:37.639
do voices of those flowers, Like
if we could just like, have you

931
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:40.000
do a couple of voiceovers and we'll
mak them up. How about we do

932
01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:45.519
this. We have we have Sean
take this part and clip this out,

933
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:50.079
and then we take some silent,
muted footage of the flowers just clapping their

934
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:53.199
gum. Sure, Dan, you
just add let me throw. Okay,

935
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:58.920
n having an existential crisis. I
know what. You need a clean take,

936
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:02.039
You need a clean everyone. Shut
the fuck up. I'm having an

937
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:07.320
existential crisis. That's good. I
have to poop. Oh okay, hold

938
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:13.480
do it again. I have to
poop. Tell them to make a small

939
01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:19.960
face. Oh, there's so much
poop. Could you do one without poop?

940
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:27.280
Like, oh uh, look at
all this pe that'll be good for

941
01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:30.800
the water levels. With the red
flowers? Why are they so angry?

942
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:35.880
Though? Yeah? Is it is? It is there like mood rings.

943
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:38.480
What do you think about it?
Like different color flowers behave differently? Yeah,

944
01:03:38.519 --> 01:03:44.000
yeah, what's the conflict? Yeah? I don't know about it much

945
01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:46.800
like that at the end of every
level, that postcard thing. It reminds

946
01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:49.960
me of like when you get off
a fun roller coaster ride and you see

947
01:03:49.960 --> 01:03:52.320
the picture. I just thought I
was having, you know, jumping like

948
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:55.199
it's what a cool little thing.
I've been trying to find a place where

949
01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:58.559
it actually like stores those, but
I don't think it does. Yeah,

950
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:01.280
I'm not sure. I've been I've
been started. I started the snapping shots

951
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:03.079
of it when they show it to
me so I can like at least have

952
01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:05.960
that saved. And if they don't
show it to me later, I wind

953
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:11.440
up getting angry because sometimes they'll take
a bad photo that I'll replay the level

954
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:15.480
trying to get a better photo,
not knowing when it gets taken. I'm

955
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:16.360
like, all right, that's a
better one. I'm fine with that.

956
01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:23.039
Okay, the uh, how you
guys feeling about one hundred percent in this

957
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:26.800
game, I'm going to do it
one percent. I'm doing that already worked

958
01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:30.360
on I saw credits yesterday. I'm
already working on all the wonder seeds and

959
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:36.480
like ten coins top of the flagpole
yep, top of the flag Yeah.

960
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:39.920
Yeah. If you look at the
if you go into the courses thing,

961
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.800
it's very faint. There's like a
little check there's a green check mark background

962
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:47.360
behind the coins, and there's like
a flagpole icon there that if you don't

963
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:49.960
have the check mark on each level, you might even be missing like a

964
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:53.599
secret exit. Like there's it tells
you right there if you've done everything on

965
01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:56.000
the level though. Oh that's cool. I like that. I love like

966
01:04:56.039 --> 01:04:59.719
the completionist in all of us.
That's very satisfying. And you can also

967
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:02.039
put on a sensor badge that will
just kind of tell you when you're close

968
01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:05.920
to something. Oh cool. I
like, yeah, I don't want this

969
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:10.639
ruin for me, so I won't
ask if you if you want to,

970
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:12.679
just like put it out there and
tell us not to Like, I just

971
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:15.800
hope that, like, you can
have more than one badge at some point.

972
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:24.639
Groomble, grumble, groomble. Yeah. Cool, cool, cool cool.

973
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:27.239
The vine one, the one where
you bind to the walls, that's

974
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:30.119
great. The one where you get
that special little extra jump at the end,

975
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:32.559
that's great. There's some I just
haven't really used at all, but

976
01:05:32.920 --> 01:05:35.519
yeah, the mobility ones where you
jump kind of high and do like a

977
01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:41.360
Yoshi flutter jump type thing. Yeah, go ahead. I'm just gonna say,

978
01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:44.280
if we do the Mario Grand Prix, we should have a couple of

979
01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:47.920
rules in there, sort of like
a hockey penalty box where like you're do

980
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:53.119
you have to use a certain badge
if you'd like get something like untoured in

981
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:55.679
one of the other levels, the
invisibility badge, so you can't see yourself

982
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:58.559
something like that. Yeah, every
like yeah, something like or it could

983
01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:01.079
be random or whatever, so someone
wins while using the invisibility one like that'd

984
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:03.039
be really hype or something like that. I don't know. I mean you

985
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:09.159
could do we could do somewhere there's
the Prince's Choice thing or through you know,

986
01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:14.719
I like that. How backl or
how's the experience been playing with us

987
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:18.039
with with with the family, because
I know, like the ghost mode that

988
01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:23.480
we've explored in UPF and like we've
talked about, is very different than actually

989
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:27.079
playing with shoot people. Yeah,
you mean, like, how is it

990
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:30.360
playing with bad gamers? Yeah?
Sure, I mean I didn't want to

991
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:34.519
know they're they're no, they're fine. It's not it's not it's not easy.

992
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:41.679
It results in a lot of like
frustration. We d and I almost

993
01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:45.840
like switch back and forth on levels
now because it's you know, I just

994
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:47.239
don't want I just don't want to
deterar my relationship with art, with my

995
01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:53.360
son, you know, I don't
want this to be the reason we don't

996
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:57.199
speak to each other. So,
uh, no, you're joking, but

997
01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:00.800
it's it's I guess there's there's been
some ship, Like, yeah, there's

998
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:06.679
tears, tears of shed you know, it's it's hard these games. That's

999
01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:12.679
the one thing that you just can't
like shoehorn into these games. They just

1000
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:18.920
cannot work the way you wish they
could. As the multiplayer side scroller,

1001
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:21.480
what I was like, what I
would do is, like you got the

1002
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:27.440
badge system, just create a badge
for bad little kids. I mean,

1003
01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:31.159
Yoshi and Navis want to play as
Yoshi. They want to play as Princess

1004
01:07:31.159 --> 01:07:36.280
Peter, and she she doesn't have
any of that stuff. Uh, he

1005
01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:43.000
can't use any of the power.
The fucking get better at him. Okay,

1006
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:46.400
I'll explain these criticisms of the rest
to them and say this comes from

1007
01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:53.559
doctor dan Rykert and will respect that. Of course this they I'm glad the

1008
01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:56.519
game works the way it does for
me. In terms of it being like

1009
01:07:56.559 --> 01:08:00.639
a family game, it's not.
It's not that really, it's not very

1010
01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:03.320
good at being that it has a
lot of it's cumbersome and it's not really

1011
01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:08.440
a great time to play with like
varying skill levels, local multiplayer and stuff

1012
01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:12.519
like that. Yeah, they also
do an interesting thing right where like they

1013
01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:16.319
trade the crown, right where like
the crown is the one who decides where

1014
01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:19.600
the wind where the camera goes right, yes, yes, yeah, And

1015
01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:23.600
like if you I've noticed then maybe
this is anecdotal. I don't know,

1016
01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:27.640
but I feel like if you are
not wearing the crown and you get top

1017
01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:30.960
of the flag pole, you can
like win the crown. I think that

1018
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:34.880
three World three D World did that, or if you're a top tag,

1019
01:08:35.079 --> 01:08:39.199
which is like if there was you
know, and that is also a bit

1020
01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:42.399
counter two to like playing with someone
who's like never going to hit the flag

1021
01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:47.520
pole, just saying like it's not
a jump, it's not a it's not

1022
01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:51.439
it's just not perfect. Uh And
and I don't think there is a way

1023
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:56.880
to make it perfect. It's just
that part of the game where you like

1024
01:08:56.960 --> 01:08:59.720
want it to be this family thing, like unfortunately, I just don't think

1025
01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:01.439
it can wear that. I wish
there was just a badge you could apply

1026
01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:04.960
to any of the characters that just
said, hey, this is a kid

1027
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:09.960
playing and do as close as you
can to what you do with Mario Kart

1028
01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:13.039
eight with the auto steer in the
auto game, right, and it's like,

1029
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:16.560
you know they're about to run into
the lava. Maybe stop them from

1030
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:19.800
running into the lava. Like I
think Nintendo's probably good enough to at this

1031
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:24.359
point of understanding how the game should
be played to maybe stop that from happening.

1032
01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:28.199
Now it's that would It's not going
to be as easy as Mario Kart.

1033
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:30.279
That is going to be more complicated, but some I mean, they

1034
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:32.600
have some badges that kind of do
some of that stuff just goes all the

1035
01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:36.720
way full full bumper bowling mode for
kids, that's what I want. Yeah,

1036
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:40.359
or maybe just kids shouldn't play Mario. Yeah, I mean it's not

1037
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:42.439
for kids, right, leave it, Leave it for us. Come on,

1038
01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:45.760
ye makes we've earned this. We've
earned this. That makes sense.

1039
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:47.960
No, you're coming. Yeah,
you're right because when we were introduced to

1040
01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:51.159
to Mario, there was nothing but
forty year olds playing in I feel like

1041
01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:58.319
cool, right, we were smoking
and watching R rated movies. Yeah,

1042
01:09:58.359 --> 01:10:04.399
we're all drinking beer jaws, Yes, yes, exactly. But you guys

1043
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:08.760
gotta admit though, for Jeff and
Jeff here, isn't it so much better

1044
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:12.199
that they've got rid of all of
the collision from new Super Mario Brothers.

1045
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:15.680
Yeah, yeah, I guess I
should plays Yoshi and I have them right

1046
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:20.000
on my back because I would care. I could carry them through levels approach

1047
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:23.640
and I haven't seen that, and
I do that. So I guess maybe

1048
01:10:23.640 --> 01:10:26.560
if I plays Yoshi, one of
them can get on my back. You're

1049
01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:31.680
the problem. Maybe I'm the problem. Yeah, there, this is where

1050
01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:35.439
I'm at with it. I listen. I'm not trying to influence my kids.

1051
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:39.600
They can like what they like.
But they are more Sonic fans than

1052
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:42.359
they are Mario fans. At the
moment. I don't think it's gonna last,

1053
01:10:42.479 --> 01:10:45.159
but they Addie comes home and she's
like, Okay, what am I

1054
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:47.319
gonna play? And I don't say
anything, and she says Mario and she

1055
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:49.239
wants to play the new Mario.
I'm like, great, great, and

1056
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:53.000
she plays it and I was like, there's a couple levels that she could

1057
01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:56.359
play as a four year old.
Most of them are too there's too much

1058
01:10:56.399 --> 01:11:00.279
going on or they're too complicated and
uh. And so she bounced off pretty

1059
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.800
quick and she's gone back to Sonic
and I'm like, that's that's not great

1060
01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:06.279
for me, someone who wants to
have as little Sonic as my home as

1061
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:11.119
possible. It's gonna be an issue. So yeah, I Hey, the

1062
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:14.840
game is great, and I wouldn't
actually change much about it. I just

1063
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:17.760
I'm hopeful that my kids will come
back to it later maybe and play it

1064
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:20.520
thing, because it's not gonna work
for them. Now. I want you

1065
01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:25.039
to keep something in mind as you
play it. I want to add a

1066
01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:29.560
category at to the Game of the
Year, which is best wonderflower effect fantastic.

1067
01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:31.000
So add that to the If you
see something where it's like, oh

1068
01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:33.920
man, this thing where suddenly I'm
walking on the background or whatever, throw

1069
01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:39.479
that in there. Because one of
the early ones, it's when they it

1070
01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:45.239
turned into a freaking isometric game.
Yeah, threw me and Luigi. Yeah,

1071
01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:50.960
it's just so smart. I just
think it's yeah, unbelievable. It's

1072
01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:55.000
one of those like they can't keep
getting away with this, but I'm happy

1073
01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:59.199
to let them keep getting away with
this. Yeah, I'm afraid of finishing

1074
01:11:59.199 --> 01:12:01.279
it because I'm having such good time
with it, taking my time. It's

1075
01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:04.399
yea without a doubt. Uh.
In the conversation for best two D Mario

1076
01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:10.880
game, Yeah, I agree.
I mean, mane just two D platforming.

1077
01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:15.159
We don't weird distinctions. A serious
question, is this a Mario?

1078
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:17.880
I know you're bullshit, it's not
it's not it's not. Okay, fine,

1079
01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:21.479
I just even finished the question.
Well, no question. My question

1080
01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:26.319
is do does he consider it to
be a main line? I don't care

1081
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:28.800
what is. I don't care why
he thinks it is. I just want

1082
01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:32.439
to know why he's never had.
Yeah, it's not it's not mainline.

1083
01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:34.880
It is maybe the best two D
Mario game. But even if it's,

1084
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:38.560
you don't have the mainline to be
great. It is crazy to think that

1085
01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:42.560
a two D platforming Mario game would
be in the mainline two D platforming Mario

1086
01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:44.439
game series. That is crazy,
you're right, Dan, Well, no,

1087
01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:47.279
because that's not following the path of
evolution of the series, you know,

1088
01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:49.960
like it's going back to like the
same reason that the news series.

1089
01:12:50.600 --> 01:12:56.520
Heyes this, you know, going
off Dan's statement of this being one of

1090
01:12:56.560 --> 01:13:00.479
the best two D marios. I
think this really cements the nintend To switch,

1091
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:04.760
y'all. For just hey, one
of the best fucking were was it

1092
01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:10.000
was this up for debate like last
week. No, just like there's some

1093
01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:15.159
people that will still poop poo on
the switch and assume it's like they don't

1094
01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:18.079
know what the fuck they're talking about. If they boopoo the switch a place

1095
01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:23.119
where we could have a conversation about
that and it's like another podcast form,

1096
01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:27.399
and that was like the first episode
we kind of maybe talked about. Actually

1097
01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:29.840
yeah, like that, like that
could be the subject, like is the

1098
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:32.880
Switch the best console? And like
maybe take an input from from elsewhere and

1099
01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:35.039
see what people say. I mean, I think I was thinking about this

1100
01:13:35.119 --> 01:13:40.479
yesterday that it launched with Mario Odyssey
and Breath of the Wild and this last

1101
01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:43.960
final full year of it, it
had Tears of the Kingdom and Mario Wonder

1102
01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:47.119
and that's not to count all of
the other awesome ship that has come out

1103
01:13:47.159 --> 01:13:53.039
in those seven years six years.
Like it's it's it's that number one,

1104
01:13:53.159 --> 01:13:56.359
and I'd say PS two, then
three sixty, I would say, yep,

1105
01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:58.439
Gateboy Advances up there for me,
But I don't know. I love

1106
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:02.239
DBA, yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, obviously sixty fourth. Ye of

1107
01:14:02.239 --> 01:14:06.479
course, you know other other games
like uh that I don't have the time

1108
01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:12.119
for, but it's absolutely amazing because
of the Switch. Octopath two. I

1109
01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:15.000
don't think I'm going to ever have
time to ever play that game again,

1110
01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:20.560
but holy smokes, Octo Path two
fucking bangs at so hard. Uh fuga.

1111
01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:26.720
I love loading Children into Spirit Cannons. Yeah, but like I like

1112
01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:28.920
put together a list of games that
like I wanted to put it, Like

1113
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:30.680
right now, it's Hot Wheels two, that Super fifty six game. I

1114
01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:34.560
want to play, metal Gear Solid
Collection A City Skyline two, ghost Runners

1115
01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:38.479
two seventh guest VR. I wanted
to check out ghost Runners good. I

1116
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:40.760
only played a second of it,
but it's okay. Yeah, I think

1117
01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:42.520
they just sent me a code too, so I'm going to check that out

1118
01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:45.880
as well. Jack Box Party Pack
ten. Yeah, we have to do

1119
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:48.600
that. And these are things that
like are out out yeah or coming out

1120
01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:53.960
very soon. Yes, have you
played NHL Grub? I actually just installed

1121
01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:56.159
it this morning and I was going
to play some of it. Maybe we

1122
01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:58.319
should, maybe we should play a
little bit. Let's play a little bit.

1123
01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:01.159
Yeah, absolutely, I've played a
decent amount. Okay, you would,

1124
01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:03.800
I think that'd be fine. I
got it on PlayStation as a cross

1125
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:06.159
play. I don't know. Yeah, I have been on PlayStation two.

1126
01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:10.199
Okay, then we're good. Yeah, but yeah, there's a I mean,

1127
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:15.920
Thomas is still happening for coming out
this week next year, Jussan Yeah,

1128
01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:23.319
and this is Alan Wake week.
Yep, we're here. Warrior where

1129
01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:27.760
is next week, Robocops next week, Thirsty Suitors. Uh, let's see

1130
01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:30.760
the Talos Principal too, Smurfs too. Wait when is that? When is

1131
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:35.920
Tallas principal too? Next week?
It's November second? What the fuck?

1132
01:15:38.079 --> 01:15:41.000
Turbo Shawn good idea? Jack Boxes
a t n T. That's that's a

1133
01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:45.560
good show. That yeah, fantastic, let's do that all right? Look

1134
01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:50.680
at the youth with ideas. Huh
I remember the friend creative Now every weird

1135
01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:55.840
to have a brain that works.
But backler, I'm sending you a Tallost

1136
01:15:55.840 --> 01:16:01.079
principal two code. Oh thank you. Just this is getting done. Look

1137
01:16:01.079 --> 01:16:06.800
at us. That's the same.
So hey, listen, uh Mario two

1138
01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:11.520
D Mario. If they did a
Mario Wonder two, I would be completely

1139
01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:15.079
fine, right, like series to
continue. Yes, if they did.

1140
01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:17.359
If they did like two of these, I think that's really good. They

1141
01:16:17.359 --> 01:16:20.680
do three, I'll probably still be
fine. I just they're probably could do

1142
01:16:20.720 --> 01:16:24.800
one two D Mario per platform.
I kind of like, hey, you

1143
01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:27.359
could do this one more time and
then change it up again. Is where

1144
01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:30.640
I'm at. I think I don't
know, I could keep it. I

1145
01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:33.119
mean, make Mario Wonder one two
three, like yeah, a standalone series.

1146
01:16:33.159 --> 01:16:39.840
It's absolutely got legs. Wonder Odyssey. I just want Cappy back.

1147
01:16:40.279 --> 01:16:44.319
I'm wondering how Cappy's doing. Like
you know, sometimes you got to brush

1148
01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:46.119
a hat off you sweating it,
and it's like, oh no, there's

1149
01:16:46.199 --> 01:16:50.000
mold. I hope Kapy doesn't have
mold. I want to throw that cap

1150
01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:55.479
onto that flower. Oh oh yeah, that would be a monster. That

1151
01:16:55.840 --> 01:17:00.640
would be a monster. That's how
you unluck like Cuthulhu. Yeah. Uh,

1152
01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:03.039
speaking about cal We're gonna go take
a quick break. There was there's

1153
01:17:03.119 --> 01:17:05.880
just one. I know. I'm
sorry, I'm so I'm a bad podcaster

1154
01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:09.800
as well as a bad YouTuber.
There was one other thing that I wanted

1155
01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:16.520
to bring up. Please, I
wonder what this does to like the Odyssey

1156
01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:20.960
lineage. I don't think it like
touches it. I don't think it like

1157
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:25.159
touches it. But I just wonder, like you know what, I I

1158
01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:29.760
do think Odyssey had like a similar
weirdness. Right, It's just you know,

1159
01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:31.279
it's like made in the same way
of like, do you have an

1160
01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:34.479
idea, let's try it. It's
fine, that's sure. It's just another

1161
01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:40.319
product available at the Wonka stored at
this point, right, like Okay,

1162
01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:43.520
I just want to say that out
loud and see if anyone had like anything

1163
01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:45.279
intelligent to say. And Jeff Grub, I'm glad you did. Yeah,

1164
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:48.359
yeah, I'm here for you.
Thank you. Listen. I think that

1165
01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:54.960
if if I'm good, I'm glad
Nintato's out here making games this way of

1166
01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:59.119
taking your time, uh not feeling
like they do have to have three of

1167
01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:02.760
these per generations so they can say, let's come up with five hundred ideas

1168
01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:06.760
and take the one hundred and fifty
to two hundred best ideas and put that

1169
01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:12.520
into a game. That's clearly what's
happened probably since like well probably since the

1170
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:15.039
beginning, but really since like the
Galaxy games, and then you get in

1171
01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:16.000
the Galaxy too, and you wereize, oh my god, they had so

1172
01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:18.479
many more awesome ideas that they can
put it in here, and like since

1173
01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:20.920
then they're like, oh, that
works really well. And now they're in

1174
01:18:20.920 --> 01:18:25.760
this really good place where they're taking
their time with releasing games to the point

1175
01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:29.159
where they hold on to them for
sometimes up to a year and a half

1176
01:18:29.159 --> 01:18:31.600
two years completely finished before they put
them out, and like now they're certain

1177
01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:33.520
to like at to a point where
like, well, we're gonna hold on

1178
01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:35.680
to them for that long. What
if we just sort of like just movesy

1179
01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:40.079
through it and like take our time
thinking about what can make this game really

1180
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:43.079
good. And that's what they did
with this one. No release date when

1181
01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:45.880
they started making it, no idea
when they were going to release, Like,

1182
01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:47.399
no, just keep working on it
and what it feels right, then

1183
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:50.239
we'll decide what we're going to do
with it. And it's like that is

1184
01:18:50.479 --> 01:18:54.840
if everyone could make games that way, we would be in a much better

1185
01:18:54.840 --> 01:18:58.039
place. And the reality is most
people making games are the furthest thing away

1186
01:18:58.039 --> 01:19:00.880
from that, where there's so many
pressures to get the game out in a

1187
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:03.239
relatively short amount of time, and
it's it's it's it, you know,

1188
01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:06.319
not saying it's hurting games, but
clearly this is what you can do when

1189
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:11.520
you have that creative freedom and the
ability to just just iterate and iterate and

1190
01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:15.520
iterate. And I'm I'm just I'm
like buzzing coming off of this game for

1191
01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:19.640
sure. Yeah, you here that
developers just be as good, right,

1192
01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:24.560
Why wouldn't you just that make so
much money? You should do That's what

1193
01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:27.600
I would do. That's what they
tell Like athletes They're like, be babe,

1194
01:19:27.680 --> 01:19:31.880
Ruth. Just guess that's that's what
they're telling all athletes. Yeah,

1195
01:19:33.199 --> 01:19:40.159
I was, but Wagner over here, I was gonna say, but you

1196
01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:44.079
know, come on, before we
get out of here, Dan, don't

1197
01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:47.560
go off one when of your tanagents, just explain why. I wonder not

1198
01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:54.840
so don't you have to take why
because I'm a miserable funck and I he's

1199
01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:57.560
I'm gonna be thinking about this and
I mean, listen, I can't let

1200
01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:00.279
him win. But he's gonna win. But okay, there is it's a

1201
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:05.039
clearer progression in that series, starting
with Super Mario Brothers. The first mainline

1202
01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:09.760
Mario game two and three speak for
themselves. They have two and three in

1203
01:20:09.800 --> 01:20:14.640
the title World Obviously that was okay, Super Nintendo. It's so we've blown

1204
01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:16.520
this out, you know, but
it's it's still the same mainline series.

1205
01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:19.880
World two clearly is not up for
discussion. It's got World two in the

1206
01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:25.840
title. So and then Mario sixty
four launches. The sixty four of course,

1207
01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:29.560
that's mainline Mario Sunshine. Okay,
No, there's not been a single

1208
01:20:29.560 --> 01:20:32.199
reason why so far, but keep
going. Okay, a single player Mario

1209
01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:36.560
platformers where it's just a big quest
and you take down Bowser or Wart or

1210
01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:40.039
someone. At the end, you're
jumping on shit, you're play It's just

1211
01:20:40.119 --> 01:20:45.720
a big scope, single player platformer
game that is moving forward. There is

1212
01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:49.319
a progression, and so you go
from Sunshine to Galaxy. You had a

1213
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:53.039
Galaxy two. That's another one with
the number in the title. That's obvious

1214
01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:56.760
ot to see the next progression.
You've got the cap powers and everything,

1215
01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:01.520
but clearly big epic ope, you
know, Player Mario Adventure. You can't

1216
01:21:01.560 --> 01:21:08.479
go back when you're determining what a
mainline series is. So New Super Mario

1217
01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:11.800
Brothers that series is not mainline because
that was like a first of all,

1218
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:14.479
it says new like it's a new
series, but it is going back.

1219
01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:15.880
It's like a retro like, hey, remember when we used to make them

1220
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:19.439
with like two D. Wonder is
doing that too, which is it's just

1221
01:21:20.039 --> 01:21:24.560
it might as well be called New
Super Mario Brothers Wonder. So the reason

1222
01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:29.640
why is because it's two D.
That's a big part of it, and

1223
01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:32.199
it's got subject and it's got a
different subjects on it. It's Wonder.

1224
01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:35.359
It's that indicates that it's it's at
the new it's it's a new series.

1225
01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:42.920
That's like saying, so no it
because because because it is a bad reason,

1226
01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:45.840
and line was weird because it's all
the like progression and all of a

1227
01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:47.199
sudden, no wait, we did
another like two d like call back one

1228
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:50.000
reason, and then they're going to
do the next like the the big Bowser's

1229
01:21:50.039 --> 01:21:54.439
fury type you know, open world
thing whatever that will be. That will

1230
01:21:54.439 --> 01:21:57.319
be the next one. You know, this helps me because now I can

1231
01:21:57.359 --> 01:22:01.119
I could deal with it because he's
knowing it's a really bad reason. Mario

1232
01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:06.520
Platformer, that's the series. I
just want to thank Dan for disqualifying Yoshi's

1233
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:12.399
Island and his own bad attempt to
explain this. Thank you. Oh that's

1234
01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:17.000
disqualify Yoshi's Island. Sorry I'm wait
sorry, wait wait wait why wait?

1235
01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:21.439
What just fade us out? How
does Yo say to be a Mario single

1236
01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:26.000
player game? You don't play as
Mario and Yoshi's Island, well you do

1237
01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:28.520
when you get the star. And
also it's just called Mario World two.

1238
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:32.720
So that's just not even up for
debate. All right again, I can't.

1239
01:22:32.760 --> 01:22:39.760
I will scream that till the day
I die. Oh you podcast chuckle

1240
01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:44.800
fox, don't matter compared to Memoto
all. I should have listened, folks.

1241
01:22:44.840 --> 01:22:46.720
I mean, I see, after
a quick bricky break and we'll we'll

1242
01:22:46.720 --> 01:22:51.079
we'll collect ourselves, so Jeff will
rethink his decisions and what he wants to

1243
01:22:51.079 --> 01:22:56.479
invite. And then you know,
games, You guys have made games.

1244
01:22:57.039 --> 01:23:04.520
I've got game developers and Mario's creator
on my side. You know, I've

1245
01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:11.239
been watching a lot of a lot
of Colombo. Yeah really, yes,

1246
01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:15.960
yes, always all the time,
so Dan, yes, one more thing?

1247
01:23:16.640 --> 01:23:21.720
Yeah, so that was? That
was I was at the Columbo that

1248
01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:25.239
I don't know Colombo. Okay,
I'm about to watch Columbo in a theater

1249
01:23:25.439 --> 01:23:28.960
this weekend, that's all? Hell? Yeah? Really yeah? Yeah,

1250
01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:32.279
yeah. You should listen to the
podcast Columbos afterward. Oh yeah, yeah,

1251
01:23:32.439 --> 01:23:38.039
you should subscribe to my newsletter Columbus
Scholla. Oh. I have a

1252
01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:42.399
friend who for ten years has done
a Columbo's Day party where he has people

1253
01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:45.720
come over and everyone dresses Columbo and
watch Columbo. And this is the tenth

1254
01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:47.279
and final one. So we rented
out a theater to play Colombo in the

1255
01:23:47.319 --> 01:23:50.720
second So, man, that's really
cool. But you wanted one more thing,

1256
01:23:50.840 --> 01:23:55.560
jan right, Yes, okay,
I hesitate to do this, because

1257
01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:59.720
I think I am just assassinating my
argument if I do this. But look,

1258
01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:01.399
we're and I'm gonna shoot with you
here. This is no o k

1259
01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:09.520
fabe. I uh. I was
playing Wonder yesterday at the Airport Lounge,

1260
01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:12.680
thinking about it a lot, just
like, man, this game is great.

1261
01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:15.079
I'm really loving this game, and
then the thought popped up into my

1262
01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:26.239
head unprompted, Wait, why don't
I think this is mainline? Dad?

1263
01:24:25.319 --> 01:24:30.079
You this though that thought? I
was like, wait a minute, you

1264
01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:34.720
can grow amazing full on Mario Adventure. This is like like the ghosts,

1265
01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:38.359
don't disqualify it, Like, is
it just there's a different name. I

1266
01:24:38.359 --> 01:24:40.640
mean, honestly had a different name. You know. It's like it's not

1267
01:24:40.760 --> 01:24:45.399
said. This is so fucking said. Shut up, don't discourage you beautiful

1268
01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:48.359
progress. This is magic. It's
progress. I'm with you, Jeff.

1269
01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:53.000
Of course it's progress. Of course
we all want Dan to move in positive

1270
01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:58.640
directions. Yeah. Yeah, but
like you were describing, you're describing that

1271
01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:00.640
like your instincts say so one thing, and then your mind is like,

1272
01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:04.279
no, I have to suffocate that
idea because I have to stand all on

1273
01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:06.800
the thing that I don't really believe
in. Well, the thing about it,

1274
01:25:06.840 --> 01:25:10.319
I could I could make bullshit arguments
about anything. I could say like,

1275
01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:13.520
well, Mario Galaxy is in mainline
because it's in space and does gravity.

1276
01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:15.640
Stuff that doesn't make any sense.
We're aware of your gimmick about making

1277
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:20.239
bullshit arguments about anything. You don't
have to refresh. I think it's a

1278
01:25:20.279 --> 01:25:24.600
knee jerk reaction. I just do
it, and it's just now my brain

1279
01:25:24.680 --> 01:25:27.840
works now. And but then when
I stop and actually question the things I'm

1280
01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:30.079
saying, I'm like, wait,
this doesn't make any sense. And really

1281
01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:32.640
it's fun to question things when when
you question yourself really look inside. Yeah,

1282
01:25:32.680 --> 01:25:35.800
man, wow, that you're really
smart. Dan, I do that

1283
01:25:35.840 --> 01:25:41.399
too much lately. Here's where you
just fucked your entire ship up. No

1284
01:25:42.039 --> 01:25:46.560
you, here's how you just fucked
yourself for all eternity. You just admitted

1285
01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:53.880
publicly on a podcast that it's all
the work a work. No, No,

1286
01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:59.039
that's it's not. But he's working. I know how to work,

1287
01:25:59.079 --> 01:26:03.079
and I will utilize at but it's
not all a work. It's it's definitely

1288
01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:09.640
uh like he doesn't think about the
why. It's just the knee jerk.

1289
01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:13.239
And then and then once just like
it's like the think about the why happens

1290
01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:15.479
so much later that it becomes a
scary thing I think is what happens here.

1291
01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:18.680
It's like it's just a natural thing
to like being of this stuff.

1292
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:21.600
Like I'm not not a grand plan
or anything like that. It's just that

1293
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:25.520
that's what people say about me when
I when you know, when I always

1294
01:26:25.520 --> 01:26:29.880
think everything sucks, right, But
that's a shoot. Well, everything does

1295
01:26:29.960 --> 01:26:32.840
suck, that's the thing. Everything
sucks. A lot of things are awesome,

1296
01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:36.880
yes, but most most things suck. But there's plenty of things I

1297
01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:41.079
do, like, uh, you
go to to a vacuum shop. Everything

1298
01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:50.479
sucks here, all right, news. I didn't say it was mainline.

1299
01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:54.520
I questioned why I thought that it
wasn't for the record, and you have

1300
01:26:54.680 --> 01:27:00.399
no reason why it was. You're
you're the fucking gate keeper. I'm a

1301
01:27:00.520 --> 01:27:05.560
Mario historian. I have against world. Yes, girls, the validated over

1302
01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:11.760
and over authenticity and and uh uh
you know value of a of a fucking

1303
01:27:11.800 --> 01:27:14.600
Guinness Record, Thank you, I
did. That's a shoot mine. You

1304
01:27:14.680 --> 01:27:17.439
would probably the most difficult thing in
the world to be a tour guide for

1305
01:27:17.479 --> 01:27:21.399
the four of us, because you
would just get stuck on one thing and

1306
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:25.239
then four two guys like, all
right, guys, we uh, we

1307
01:27:25.439 --> 01:27:28.600
still got a lot of next thing, and we'd still be arguing about the

1308
01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:32.279
thing four things ago. Yes,
absolutely switch to rumors and it's going to

1309
01:27:32.319 --> 01:27:38.439
switch to May feature Ray Reconstruction DLSS
three point five and have two skews,

1310
01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:42.399
one digital ones like one. It
is all digital ray. When was it

1311
01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:46.479
ray reconstruction? You got to reconstructor
ray? Is he related to ray tracing?

1312
01:27:47.319 --> 01:27:54.600
Yes, doctor, ray tracing the
rails? Uh yes, listen,

1313
01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:58.319
this is all a bunch of Nvidia
features that that they're talking about. And

1314
01:27:58.319 --> 01:28:00.399
then the two SKUs in all digital
and then the one that has a physical

1315
01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:03.479
you know, card slot as well. That's something everyone else is doing.

1316
01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:06.840
It was probably going to do that
as well, so that they can have

1317
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:14.560
a slightly more affordable version on the
shelves. This stuff sounds plausible, but

1318
01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:18.600
I just don't know. I don't
need ray tracing on my switch. Other

1319
01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:23.880
than the fact I think developers may
want it to be like uniform or in

1320
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:28.439
video wants it because it's like more
promoting in video ArtX features and a lot

1321
01:28:28.479 --> 01:28:33.279
more games and for them if Nintendo
has in video style ray tracing. That

1322
01:28:33.399 --> 01:28:36.119
means more games are just going to
support it, and then that stuff can

1323
01:28:36.159 --> 01:28:40.600
come to PC and that helps benefit
them in both directions. But I don't

1324
01:28:40.600 --> 01:28:43.840
know, you guys getting out of
bed for ray tracing these days? No,

1325
01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:46.720
Yeah, I get in bed for
ray tracing. Okay, well that's

1326
01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:49.840
a little different. Yeah, whoa
whoa, whoa, whoa whoa moodles.

1327
01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:54.000
Look, I just I have a
hard time imagining we're going to get to

1328
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:57.680
the close to the launch of the
Nintendo Switch to whatever they call it,

1329
01:28:58.119 --> 01:29:00.840
and one of the features in like
the big reveal is going to be and

1330
01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:03.920
it has raid tracing. I just
don't think Nintendo's going to go down like

1331
01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:09.000
that route of like using buzzwords in
that way. But I don't know,

1332
01:29:09.039 --> 01:29:11.880
maybe they do. It's never really
been their approach, you know. I

1333
01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:14.880
feel like the last time they tried
to like keep up with the Joneses on

1334
01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:17.159
a technical level was that GameCube generation
where it was like, okay, you

1335
01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:19.760
could have a game on all three
platforms, and they pretty much looked similar

1336
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:23.359
Like once the Week came out,
it was like clearly more underpowered, and

1337
01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:27.920
they didn't really care. You know, They've never once cared about specs.

1338
01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:30.439
They're not going to start now right
like and to start with the rage rate,

1339
01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.800
like come on, I now,
I just still. They're working very

1340
01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:38.680
close with Nvidia. They have a
long term partnership with Nvidia. Their next

1341
01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:42.680
three systems are probably going to be
all in VideA backed, you know,

1342
01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:45.920
into the future, and so I
think that strong relationship means that Nvidia will

1343
01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:49.039
bring them, Hey, we're working
on this system on a chip and we're

1344
01:29:49.039 --> 01:29:51.159
going to give you this and this
and this and all this stuff is just

1345
01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:54.600
going to work and it's going to
be in there and developers are gonna love

1346
01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:56.680
it. And I think Nintendo goes, yeah, how much did it cost?

1347
01:29:57.159 --> 01:29:59.680
It's okay, Well, if you
can make it affordable for us to

1348
01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:02.199
buy a a billion of these,
then yeah, we'll do it. Otherwise,

1349
01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:04.800
fucking take that shit out. And
if taking that stuff out makes it

1350
01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:09.439
more affordable, then they'll probably consider
that what's happening here is in videas like

1351
01:30:10.119 --> 01:30:12.960
we can get down to that price
and keeps most of this stuff in because

1352
01:30:12.960 --> 01:30:15.840
we think it's important and we think
it'll it'll help you and keep this relationship

1353
01:30:15.840 --> 01:30:19.199
strong, and it helps Nvidia in
the long run. But I mean even

1354
01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:23.960
if DLSS three point five is in
there, and DLS three to three point

1355
01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:27.760
five is the one with raid reconstruction, which makes ray tracing look really nice,

1356
01:30:28.159 --> 01:30:31.359
works really well, I wouldn't even
expect most games to take advantage of

1357
01:30:31.359 --> 01:30:33.680
this, happy to have it,
like, yeah, right, exactly,

1358
01:30:33.680 --> 01:30:39.199
it's not going to hurt anything,
right, yes exactly? How real quick,

1359
01:30:39.479 --> 01:30:43.760
how would you guys feel about the
other side of that coint of having

1360
01:30:44.279 --> 01:30:48.359
a more affordable model, What if
there was a really lush premium switch to

1361
01:30:48.520 --> 01:30:51.399
available of Like if they have an
O lead at the at the start and

1362
01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:56.359
it's like significantly more expensive, I'm
probably still gonna get because I play mind

1363
01:30:56.359 --> 01:30:58.880
Handled so much and I love the
O lead screen. It sounds like the

1364
01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:02.640
versions were being offered at the beginning
of this next generation won't be O let.

1365
01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:08.319
They will go back to just your
standard LCD. And so if if

1366
01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:10.600
to get an O lead, I
had that, like you know, there's

1367
01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:15.000
the all digital at one price maybe
like four hundred, four fifty even,

1368
01:31:15.079 --> 01:31:17.439
and then there's the real big boy
model and that's five hundred, and then

1369
01:31:17.439 --> 01:31:20.199
if I had to go up to
like five fifty, like that's pretty expensive,

1370
01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:24.479
But I mean, I don't know. I would consider it for sure,

1371
01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:28.560
because I'm thinking about like how you
know, some people are conditioned to

1372
01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:31.279
buy a new phone every single year, or like a new iPad, right,

1373
01:31:31.359 --> 01:31:35.760
and it's like incremental updates versus something
that'd be substantial with a switch to

1374
01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:41.840
And I feel like for an OLED
screen, bigger memory, potentially better battery

1375
01:31:41.880 --> 01:31:46.640
life, I'd pay the premium for
it because of how much I'd remembered just

1376
01:31:46.920 --> 01:31:51.079
having the switch dominate my life when
it originally came out. I think that's

1377
01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:56.399
totally reasonable to have a beefed up
one out of the gate. Why not,

1378
01:31:56.800 --> 01:32:00.279
Like, yeah, I have to. The reason is because it like

1379
01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:02.880
that makes manufacturing more complicated, right, yeah, right, I get that.

1380
01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:08.079
Two skews like that. It's weird. Yeah, it sounds like the

1381
01:32:08.079 --> 01:32:12.239
two SKUs that they're going for are
these are pretty much the exact same systems.

1382
01:32:12.279 --> 01:32:15.000
Just one doesn't have a card slot. That's pretty easy to do,

1383
01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:18.079
and and then you know most people
probably do get the one with the card

1384
01:32:18.479 --> 01:32:23.640
uh slot card reader. And then
beyond that, it's but don't you think

1385
01:32:24.159 --> 01:32:28.199
don't you think, like so you
could still get an OG switch like not

1386
01:32:28.359 --> 01:32:30.800
O LED. You can still buy
that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1387
01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:32.279
totally. Yeah. I just think
like, uh, you know, I

1388
01:32:32.279 --> 01:32:39.760
don't know, it just seems like
a bit of a generational step backwards it

1389
01:32:39.800 --> 01:32:42.199
is, to come out of the
gate without an O lead, but it

1390
01:32:42.199 --> 01:32:45.479
does it opens up the opportunity for
them to do what Nintendo has always done.

1391
01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:46.760
Maybe a little bit less so with
the switch, but they've always done

1392
01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:50.840
the thing where you know, we
launched this device and then we have four

1393
01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:55.119
or five different iterations on it.
You know, there's the DS and the

1394
01:32:55.199 --> 01:33:00.880
ds I and the d s I
XL. Yeah, the DS go DSXL

1395
01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:04.039
and all this stuff, and then
yeah, the three DS had six variations

1396
01:33:04.119 --> 01:33:08.239
right by the time it was all
said and done. And they so it's

1397
01:33:08.279 --> 01:33:11.600
basically one console launch per year.
If you look at it that way,

1398
01:33:12.039 --> 01:33:16.600
they probably won't be that aggressive mainline
exactly. And so I think holding that

1399
01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:19.439
stuff back it's kind of like a
mat and right or where it's like a

1400
01:33:20.159 --> 01:33:23.680
or the SIMS where it's like,
Okay, we're gonna strip a lot of

1401
01:33:23.680 --> 01:33:26.680
stuff out so we can then add
that stuff back in with new expansions or

1402
01:33:26.680 --> 01:33:29.840
new updates going forward. It's kind
of what they're probably gonna end up doing

1403
01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:35.239
here. Okay, moving on Dreams
and Little Big Planet. Studio Media Molecule

1404
01:33:35.399 --> 01:33:41.640
is reportedly laying off fifteen to twenty
percent of its staff. This comes on

1405
01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:45.399
the heels of them announcing that they
were ending support for Dreams. Not like

1406
01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:48.399
not really surprising, but also it's
kind of it's a bummer. It's like,

1407
01:33:48.439 --> 01:33:51.239
why couldn't they ever figure out how
to or what to do with Media

1408
01:33:51.319 --> 01:33:55.560
Molecule, a really talent studio that
did a lot of very creative stuff,

1409
01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:59.159
And by the time that Dreams was
all said and done, it's like,

1410
01:33:59.199 --> 01:34:01.119
man like that they never found its
footing. They never gave it a chance

1411
01:34:01.159 --> 01:34:03.199
to like be on PC, which
I always thought like, hey, that's

1412
01:34:03.239 --> 01:34:05.840
a past that like a hail Mary
past that probably could have done something.

1413
01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:10.239
Yeah, never even tried that.
Instead word in a position where they're kind

1414
01:34:10.239 --> 01:34:14.039
of cutting some jobs, and at
the same time, PlayStation's Visual Arts Group

1415
01:34:14.239 --> 01:34:17.239
appears to have also suffered layoffs.
This is a support studio in California.

1416
01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:20.600
Primarily. They have a studio in
Malaysia that's opened up, but apparently some

1417
01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:25.600
people have been laid off from there
as well. I suppose you could say

1418
01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:29.039
they're in between Big projects, So
maybe they're cutting jobs because of that,

1419
01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:32.760
maybe pulling some contractors. It just
seems like no Sony is nipping and tucking

1420
01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:38.159
because PlayStation, while that's very,
very healthy, the rest of Sony not

1421
01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:42.000
so much, and so making sure
that PlayStation is as profitable as possible is

1422
01:34:42.039 --> 01:34:45.439
a big concern for them. That's
what seems like what's happening here. Do

1423
01:34:45.479 --> 01:34:50.000
you guys think that Media Molecule has
a future doing what it's done for the

1424
01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:56.720
last ten to fifteen years of making
these player created games, player back games.

1425
01:34:57.159 --> 01:35:00.960
I would almost like to see maybe
more stuff like air Away, which

1426
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.720
you know, the creation stuff in
there was just kind of you determining like

1427
01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:06.319
Okay, draw a shape and that's
going to become the snowflakes in the world,

1428
01:35:06.600 --> 01:35:11.039
right, you know, Like I
think they utilize gimmicks in a really

1429
01:35:11.039 --> 01:35:14.439
good way, Like look at everything
Tearaway did with the hardware of the Vita.

1430
01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:19.199
I I don't know, I I
the successive one of those types of

1431
01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:24.520
games like a Dreams for a Little
Big Planet kind of lizardize based on the

1432
01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:28.520
the player base and how often they're
because like they're pretty complicated, Like I

1433
01:35:29.239 --> 01:35:30.800
tried, I watch all the tutorials
and everything for a little big planet Dreams

1434
01:35:30.840 --> 01:35:35.079
all that stuff, and it's just
too much. It is like a whole

1435
01:35:35.159 --> 01:35:38.840
thing you have to learn, and
but all you need is at least that

1436
01:35:38.960 --> 01:35:43.319
like one percent dedicated player base to
really utilize it and then just kind of

1437
01:35:43.399 --> 01:35:46.359
keep content coming out on the game. But I think the more complicated they

1438
01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:49.680
make things, I think the harder
it's the barrier for entry is for people

1439
01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:54.840
to build the stuff that will give
it legs. Yeah, I think it's

1440
01:35:55.159 --> 01:35:57.800
go ahead. Jan Police. I
agree with that to an extent because you

1441
01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:02.119
know, you look at something where
the the creator base comes from the players,

1442
01:36:02.199 --> 01:36:06.319
like Rowblocks, right, Like,
it's not an incredibly difficult tool set,

1443
01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:11.479
yet people are still making several different
modes. Something is scaled down as

1444
01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:15.760
Minecraft right still. We talked about
this on game mes last week, where

1445
01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:21.720
still has an insane amount of popularity
and some of that isn't coming from people

1446
01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:26.279
just creating and just playing a bass
game. I think the problem with something

1447
01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:30.920
with Dreams is what is that base
game? Yeah, because it's too much

1448
01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:34.560
of a blank camp canvas, the
underline hook that keeps you there, that

1449
01:36:34.600 --> 01:36:38.079
makes you like, Okay, now
I'm gonna go like, you almost need

1450
01:36:38.119 --> 01:36:41.800
like this hub that you're attached to, like Mario Maker. Yeah, you

1451
01:36:41.840 --> 01:36:44.760
need a PlayStation home. Yeah,
like Mario Maker. Like I like Mario,

1452
01:36:45.199 --> 01:36:47.199
I'll just spend time here and then
cool stuff's popping up, I'm gonna

1453
01:36:47.199 --> 01:36:50.720
go check it out, you know. And even that was like really I

1454
01:36:50.800 --> 01:36:55.359
was having fun rivalries with like friends
and they would make stuff and we'd go

1455
01:36:55.399 --> 01:36:58.760
back and forth. And that's the
magic of Mario Maker. And you know,

1456
01:36:58.800 --> 01:37:02.840
I'm sure that they you could do
stuff like that in dreams and probably

1457
01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:06.359
even more so in a little big
planet, but they don't have the same

1458
01:37:06.479 --> 01:37:10.920
gravity, the same stickiness as something
like a Mario And maybe that's required for

1459
01:37:10.960 --> 01:37:15.760
something like this, or or at
least you need to be winning over an

1460
01:37:15.920 --> 01:37:20.880
entire new generation of gamers like Roadblocks
did. So Yeah, I think I'm

1461
01:37:20.920 --> 01:37:29.159
with you, Dan. Maybe the
ship on player created content bespoke game releases

1462
01:37:29.680 --> 01:37:33.840
has mostly shipped away, and they
should they find other ways to do that,

1463
01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:40.640
or maybe medium Molecule could be like
spearheading something like a project of how

1464
01:37:40.640 --> 01:37:44.159
do you bring player created content into
all of these PlayStation games, or something

1465
01:37:44.199 --> 01:37:46.720
like a PlayStation home. That could
be cool, you know, like,

1466
01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:51.680
look like obviously, like there is
success in many, many different forms of

1467
01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:57.840
this type of relationship, right,
yes, definitely many which I don't want

1468
01:37:57.840 --> 01:38:02.680
to mention. And I feel like
I really wish that this was the platform

1469
01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:11.039
that took off in that way,
right, Yeah, I think it's difficult

1470
01:38:11.079 --> 01:38:15.000
to. Like you said, learning
curve there is obviously a thing, adoption

1471
01:38:15.119 --> 01:38:18.119
is obviously a thing, but man, the quality and the creativity and then

1472
01:38:18.159 --> 01:38:26.039
that entire ecosystem that exists within all
of those properties is just absolutely fascinating to

1473
01:38:26.079 --> 01:38:29.279
me. And I just it's just
like it's it's kind of tragic, you

1474
01:38:29.319 --> 01:38:32.039
know. Yeah, it's like in
sports where it's like not the best player,

1475
01:38:32.079 --> 01:38:35.159
but he's always available, and that's
the best ability is availability, and

1476
01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:39.239
like you can get roadblocks on your
phone, your PC, it's really easy

1477
01:38:39.239 --> 01:38:43.399
to run, and then dreams say
it's just on PlayStation and you got to

1478
01:38:43.399 --> 01:38:45.920
buy the game itself, and then
eventually it's like, okay, well here's

1479
01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:46.880
like a free version where you could
just try some of the stuff, I

1480
01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:48.840
guess, and or if you want
to create, that's free. I don't

1481
01:38:48.840 --> 01:38:51.920
even remember how they did that,
but that happened like way later. Yeah,

1482
01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:56.800
that that those barrier to entries and
then leaving it just on the PlayStation.

1483
01:38:57.319 --> 01:39:00.439
It never really stood a chance,
even though the quality of what was

1484
01:39:00.479 --> 01:39:04.279
being produced I think from outside objectively
looked better. Did it have an official

1485
01:39:04.359 --> 01:39:11.399
PS five release or was it always
just four? I think they just look

1486
01:39:11.439 --> 01:39:13.279
at it that way, Okay,
I think, yeah, I don't think

1487
01:39:13.319 --> 01:39:15.359
it had any upgrade advertise. Ye. You know. That creates an interesting

1488
01:39:15.399 --> 01:39:19.000
problem of like if you have to
buy in, like how do you increase

1489
01:39:19.079 --> 01:39:23.439
discoverability because like a lot of people
that buy in may just buy in for

1490
01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:26.039
like the one or two neat things
and then like all right, well to

1491
01:39:26.119 --> 01:39:30.199
check that out. I guess,
yeah, totally, Like they're other than

1492
01:39:30.439 --> 01:39:36.680
hoping something goes viral on social media. It is a difficult problem to solve

1493
01:39:36.720 --> 01:39:41.880
to get people in the door to
begin with, unless there's like a free

1494
01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:45.920
thing off the off the jump,
right, yeah, I mean yeah,

1495
01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:48.479
And I think what we're talking about
is, uh, turning these games into

1496
01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:53.239
platforms, and like that seems like
the clear goal. What if it was

1497
01:39:53.319 --> 01:39:57.399
like not the goal though, Like
what if you were like Nintendo has their

1498
01:39:57.479 --> 01:40:00.520
weird team or the weird teams,
like hey we make weird, we put

1499
01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:01.840
it out and then we forget about
it. We move on to the next

1500
01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:05.680
weird thing. Like there's Labbo,
but then there's game maker Garage, and

1501
01:40:05.720 --> 01:40:10.239
game maker Garage is a very similar
idea of make your own games in this

1502
01:40:10.319 --> 01:40:14.479
thing, and no one ever worried
about that then turning into a platform or

1503
01:40:14.520 --> 01:40:16.239
even like selling all that well,
or people being able to take their games

1504
01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:19.439
out of it and sell those games. It's like, these are all concerns

1505
01:40:19.439 --> 01:40:23.159
and anxieties that happen with dreams,
and it's like, well, no,

1506
01:40:23.239 --> 01:40:26.560
this is just a weird Nintendo thing
being a weird Nintendo thing. If Media

1507
01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:30.319
Molecule could get into that space where
it like just make weird stuff and no

1508
01:40:30.439 --> 01:40:35.319
promises of some bigger, grander idea
of this fitting into the overall gaming landscape,

1509
01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:38.479
it's like, no, it's just
a weird thing for PlayStation. Let's

1510
01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:41.680
release it and move on. That
would be good for that studio, and

1511
01:40:41.720 --> 01:40:45.319
I hope they can find their way, you know, navigate the current PlayStation

1512
01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:48.039
to make that happen. I don't
know how hopeful I would be for that

1513
01:40:48.079 --> 01:40:51.439
to be able to be pulled off, though, because Sony wants worldwide global

1514
01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:56.720
hits and then they want live service
games, and I don't know if that

1515
01:40:56.760 --> 01:41:00.319
fits in with what Media Molecule can
maybe be able to pull off. And

1516
01:41:00.359 --> 01:41:05.000
then for Visual Arts Studio, this
is the team that was going to or

1517
01:41:05.039 --> 01:41:10.119
wanted to, They were interested in
taking over Uncharted, and then they actually

1518
01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:14.840
ended up actually start working on the
Last of Us Part one remake before Naughty

1519
01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:17.439
Dog was like got pretty territorial about
both those things and said no to Uncharted

1520
01:41:17.720 --> 01:41:21.840
and then took over the Last of
Us Part one remake from Visual Arts Studio.

1521
01:41:24.399 --> 01:41:27.199
That studio always seemed a bit like, hey, we want to do

1522
01:41:27.279 --> 01:41:29.560
more, and then they've been sort
of slapped down and be like, no,

1523
01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:31.520
you got to know your place,
and I think that's kind of hurt

1524
01:41:32.079 --> 01:41:36.359
morale there. And now they're kind
of they're experiencing layoffs. So yeah,

1525
01:41:36.399 --> 01:41:41.000
it's a it's a weird thing,
but also maybe there's a bigger story there

1526
01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:45.840
that we're not aware of. I
don't know it. While Sony is experiencing

1527
01:41:45.920 --> 01:41:49.279
layoffs, games are doing very well. Sony says Spider Man two is the

1528
01:41:49.319 --> 01:41:55.479
fastest selling PlayStation studios game in history. It sold two point five or yeah,

1529
01:41:55.479 --> 01:41:59.600
two point five million copies in its
first twenty four hours. They say

1530
01:41:59.640 --> 01:42:03.640
that does get the fastest selling PlayStation
game and stood in its history. But

1531
01:42:03.640 --> 01:42:06.279
but it's hard to compare it to
the other ones because they always use a

1532
01:42:06.279 --> 01:42:10.920
different timeframe, Like God of War, rag Rock was like five million in

1533
01:42:10.960 --> 01:42:15.560
like three days, Spider Man was
a four million in two days or four

1534
01:42:15.640 --> 01:42:18.520
days or something like that. We've
never had one rock this is it's sold

1535
01:42:18.520 --> 01:42:23.439
this many in twenty four hours,
So they always kind of change it up,

1536
01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:26.680
so it's hard to compare apples to
apples either way. Though, that's

1537
01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:29.680
very good. Two point five million
copies in a day. Yeah, clearly

1538
01:42:29.720 --> 01:42:31.439
we knew Spider Man two is going
to be very successful. It is a

1539
01:42:31.479 --> 01:42:39.680
massive hit for first Insomniac. Do
you guys think they can maintain this level

1540
01:42:39.800 --> 01:42:44.039
of of like sales with like Wolverine
and other things like that, And it's

1541
01:42:44.039 --> 01:42:48.199
like with Wolverine warns popular, Yeah, very popular. Yeah. Like if

1542
01:42:48.239 --> 01:42:55.600
we're looking at like the Marvel hierarchy
before the MCU, it's Wolverine and Spider

1543
01:42:55.640 --> 01:42:59.439
Man are probably like the top two
most recognizable characters, right. I think

1544
01:42:59.479 --> 01:43:03.600
that's maybe Hulk, maybe Venom,
and then even then Captain American iron Man

1545
01:43:03.600 --> 01:43:09.199
at were still bottom of that list, and then probably like the very very

1546
01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:14.119
very very bottom is like Cyclops.
Maybe I don't know about that slander.

1547
01:43:14.520 --> 01:43:17.119
I've done a lot of scientific research, and you know, Cyclops is at

1548
01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:20.000
least a solid five or seven.
You know, he's cool, Scott something,

1549
01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:26.279
He's like no, like he was
willing to do what needed to be

1550
01:43:26.319 --> 01:43:29.760
done. But Fantastic four is probably
above Cyclops. I'll give you that.

1551
01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:33.199
Yeah, but you know I'm a
Fantastic four kind of sucks man. I

1552
01:43:33.239 --> 01:43:39.439
don't know, excuse me. The
first family in marvels not it's just like

1553
01:43:39.560 --> 01:43:44.800
not you read Richards can stretch his
brain out. Yeah, I guess that's

1554
01:43:44.840 --> 01:43:49.279
that's kind of cool. So smart. Not only can you stretch your arms

1555
01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:53.399
out and be all super stretching,
like, oh I can get that can

1556
01:43:53.520 --> 01:43:57.800
over there, but now I can
think hella hard because my brain can keep

1557
01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:03.960
growing. Jessica Alvis Tower disability and
just going away, not just like not

1558
01:44:04.000 --> 01:44:12.399
appearing to be there, having a
underwear bran Yeah, Michael as the thing

1559
01:44:14.119 --> 01:44:16.600
who a billionaire isn't just al but
like a billionaire like didn't you like launch

1560
01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:20.960
some crazy like sauty brand thing or
something. That's what going away is all

1561
01:44:21.840 --> 01:44:26.399
that sounds plausible, Like that's always
what happens is these celebrities have their own

1562
01:44:26.399 --> 01:44:30.079
brands and then they sell them and
become billionaires. Her husband has a very

1563
01:44:30.079 --> 01:44:38.239
popular underwear brand. I think okay
is uh. I was like, I

1564
01:44:38.279 --> 01:44:40.720
was like, is it Alta am? I just think an Alba and Alta

1565
01:44:40.800 --> 01:44:44.239
sound alike, and that is what
I was doing. That just happened to

1566
01:44:44.279 --> 01:44:48.279
my brain real quick. Small little
tidbits on Spider Man two Insomniac is fixing

1567
01:44:48.399 --> 01:44:53.279
a Cuban flag that they put up
inside the house of Miles Morales, who

1568
01:44:53.319 --> 01:44:57.239
is a Puerto Rican or a Puerto
Rican descent. Actually, uh so that's

1569
01:44:57.279 --> 01:45:00.239
a little bit of a noopsie.
Uh that game very good about representing New

1570
01:45:00.319 --> 01:45:04.680
York Puerto Rican culture. This is
just I looked at the flag. I

1571
01:45:04.760 --> 01:45:08.359
saw it. I didn't like,
I'm a dummy, so I didn't think

1572
01:45:08.399 --> 01:45:11.359
anything of it when I saw it. And I'm like, maybe part of

1573
01:45:11.359 --> 01:45:14.520
me is like I noticed it because
it's like, but I've just moved on

1574
01:45:14.600 --> 01:45:17.479
really quick. I could see that
happening a little bit. But god,

1575
01:45:17.479 --> 01:45:20.720
they're so good at this. It
is a little surprising. Depth. Don't

1576
01:45:20.840 --> 01:45:25.600
let that mistake, which is still
a mistake and a big mistake. Y,

1577
01:45:26.039 --> 01:45:30.239
Yeah, takeaway from all of the
representation that they've been able to add

1578
01:45:30.279 --> 01:45:31.680
to the game. Please, it's
very good stuff in there. Yes,

1579
01:45:31.720 --> 01:45:38.039
so I echo that. And then
a number of Spider Man two discs are

1580
01:45:38.039 --> 01:45:42.239
failing to fully install the game.
Mostly it seems like in Europe there seems

1581
01:45:42.279 --> 01:45:46.279
to be kind of an epidemic of
games installing from the discs stopping at thirty

1582
01:45:46.439 --> 01:45:50.079
six percent or somewhere around there,
and then they just won't work. You

1583
01:45:50.079 --> 01:45:53.159
have to take it back to the
store and get a different one, and

1584
01:45:53.199 --> 01:45:56.680
there's no guarantee that disc will work. So some stores have stopped selling the

1585
01:45:56.720 --> 01:46:00.319
discs entirely until they can get like
a new batch from Sony. So hey,

1586
01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:03.359
if that's happening to you, you're
not alone. You probably want to

1587
01:46:03.399 --> 01:46:08.279
just actually call the store and not
Sony to get that fixed. But yeah,

1588
01:46:08.359 --> 01:46:13.279
good luck, okay. Sticking with
PlayStation, the PS five Slim and

1589
01:46:13.359 --> 01:46:15.479
Spidey bundles have leaked, or at
least their dates have leaked. The PlayStation

1590
01:46:15.560 --> 01:46:18.840
five Slim will be released in November
twenty twenty two in the US. In

1591
01:46:18.920 --> 01:46:23.359
other regions, it will be available
in two models, that standard edition with

1592
01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:26.800
the disk drive, and then a
digital one that's going to be four hundred

1593
01:46:26.840 --> 01:46:31.479
and fifty dollars. It sounds like
Sony is planning to launch this on November

1594
01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:35.159
eighth, at least that's what the
leaker, Bill bil Koon says, And

1595
01:46:35.199 --> 01:46:39.359
this will be a bundled with Spider
Man and that's it. And it's going

1596
01:46:39.399 --> 01:46:42.359
to be a five hundred and sixty
dollars version, so it'll be the physical

1597
01:46:42.399 --> 01:46:45.359
console with a disc of Spider Man
two, and then two days later,

1598
01:46:45.479 --> 01:46:49.600
apparently on November tenth, they're going
to launch the regular slim Ps fives without

1599
01:46:49.640 --> 01:46:53.560
a game packaged in there. So
they haven't given us a date yet.

1600
01:46:53.680 --> 01:46:56.680
Sounds like it's coming relatively soon though, And if that's the case, we

1601
01:46:56.760 --> 01:46:59.760
got to hear about this, I
got to imagine maybe by the end of

1602
01:46:59.760 --> 01:47:05.239
this, but we'll see. Microsoft
CEO says it's doubling down on being a

1603
01:47:05.319 --> 01:47:10.840
game producer and publisher. Satia Nadella
says the company is doubling down on its

1604
01:47:10.840 --> 01:47:15.640
game gaming division following its acquisition of
Activision Blizzard. He believes that gaming is

1605
01:47:15.640 --> 01:47:18.399
one of Microsoft's three main arms and
that it is a growing market. The

1606
01:47:18.439 --> 01:47:21.920
acquisition will make Microsoft one of the
largest game publishers and will help them cater

1607
01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:26.600
to a growing demand for gaming.
I don't think anyone had had the sense

1608
01:47:26.640 --> 01:47:30.640
that Microsoft was retreating, but Satia
Nadella keeps coming out and talking up gaming.

1609
01:47:32.840 --> 01:47:34.720
What does that look like to you, guys? What it was a

1610
01:47:34.760 --> 01:47:39.760
doubling down from Microsoft look like for
video games? I get a little bit

1611
01:47:39.840 --> 01:47:44.279
scared because the CEO getting involved and
just like you're you gonna stop letting Phil

1612
01:47:44.439 --> 01:47:49.319
Phil and Booty cook, and that
like you're gonna double down too much and

1613
01:47:49.479 --> 01:47:54.680
overcorrect when there isn't a lot of
correction to be going on right now,

1614
01:47:55.479 --> 01:47:57.840
right, just get the games out. It's kind of where they need to

1615
01:47:57.840 --> 01:48:00.760
be, right. Yeah, what
that looks like is that game Pass is

1616
01:48:00.760 --> 01:48:03.039
going to be on everything moving forward, Right, It's going to be on

1617
01:48:03.079 --> 01:48:05.600
mobile. They're going to figure out
how to put that bad boy on the

1618
01:48:05.640 --> 01:48:11.279
switch to It's never going to be
on the PlayStation five or whatever comes next.

1619
01:48:11.319 --> 01:48:15.359
But like, game Pass is going
to continue to be a behemoth.

1620
01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:21.399
Yeah. I wonder if some Microsoft
wants to make that mobile store that's going

1621
01:48:21.479 --> 01:48:27.800
to be an alternative to Google Play
and the app store. Don't That seems

1622
01:48:27.800 --> 01:48:32.520
like an idea that can't work unless
some sort of like backward regulation thing happens

1623
01:48:32.560 --> 01:48:36.640
where these companies get in trouble unless
they offer another another store. And Microsoft's

1624
01:48:36.640 --> 01:48:39.359
like, we have a store you
could put on your phone, and now

1625
01:48:39.399 --> 01:48:43.640
you're good with regulators. I wonder
if they're like, try to leverage that

1626
01:48:43.720 --> 01:48:45.439
and be like, and the same
is true of consoles. We'll put PlayStation

1627
01:48:45.560 --> 01:48:48.920
store on an Xbox. If you
put Xbox Store in game Pass on PlayStation.

1628
01:48:49.279 --> 01:48:53.119
It seems crazy, but I wonder
if they think that's a possibility with

1629
01:48:53.119 --> 01:48:58.159
the way regulation is going. I
don't know. Seems a tough one to

1630
01:48:58.159 --> 01:49:01.479
pull off in terms of like what
is possible. Hey, I think they

1631
01:49:01.520 --> 01:49:05.399
are mostly moving in the right direction, but the games they're putting out,

1632
01:49:05.439 --> 01:49:10.560
they need to just maybe do some
of that Nintendo magic of just being Nintendo

1633
01:49:10.760 --> 01:49:14.960
and take your time and make sure
things are right before you put out,

1634
01:49:15.039 --> 01:49:17.159
before you announce them even because that's
what they're at a point where like Perfect

1635
01:49:17.239 --> 01:49:20.239
Dark has been announced for years and
years and years and we haven't seen anything

1636
01:49:20.239 --> 01:49:23.439
of that thing. Yeah, grub, but we you know, take into

1637
01:49:23.479 --> 01:49:26.960
account who they just acquired, and
if you're telling them to take their time

1638
01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:30.359
and be like Nintendo. Yeah,
I don't think call of Duty waits for

1639
01:49:30.399 --> 01:49:32.600
anyone. Call duty does not wait
for anyone. Although I think it's much

1640
01:49:32.640 --> 01:49:35.880
more likely Call of Duty would skip
a year now than when it was under

1641
01:49:35.880 --> 01:49:40.159
activision, although I still don't think
it's going to be skipping years doesn't apparently

1642
01:49:40.199 --> 01:49:43.920
it doesn't know how you tried,
it sucked it up. It's like what

1643
01:49:44.279 --> 01:49:45.960
we put on another one accidentally.
Well, all you had to do was

1644
01:49:46.039 --> 01:49:49.520
nothing. Where does campaign come from? Who even made this? We don't

1645
01:49:49.640 --> 01:49:53.800
know. It just happened. Yeah, were they supposed to take a year

1646
01:49:53.840 --> 01:49:56.159
office? That was that was the
rumor, And that's what you could tell

1647
01:49:56.159 --> 01:49:59.279
by looking at what they're putting out
this year. It is all the Modern

1648
01:49:59.319 --> 01:50:02.960
Warfare two original maps, Like that's
all of the maps that's in Modern Warfare

1649
01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:08.199
three. And it's like clearly this
was supposed to be an expansion to Modern

1650
01:50:08.199 --> 01:50:12.079
Warfare two, the new Modern Warfare
two, and then they just kind of

1651
01:50:12.520 --> 01:50:15.000
bundled it back together like actually,
we'll release it for seventy dollars and call

1652
01:50:15.039 --> 01:50:18.640
it a whole thing. So yeah, yeah, it's it's it's strange,

1653
01:50:18.640 --> 01:50:24.000
but yes, they have a full
call duty game this year. All right,

1654
01:50:25.279 --> 01:50:29.119
let's let's jump to this next one. Actually, Jane Meddle Gear Solid

1655
01:50:29.159 --> 01:50:33.439
four five and peace Walker allegedly referenced
in metal Gear Solid Collection files. References

1656
01:50:33.479 --> 01:50:38.880
to metal Gear Solid four five and
peace Walker were found in the files of

1657
01:50:38.880 --> 01:50:42.640
the recently released middle Gear Solid Master
Collection Volume one. This could be a

1658
01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:45.760
simple test during development, or it
could be evidence that a second volume could

1659
01:50:45.800 --> 01:50:49.720
one day include these games. Metal
Gear Solid five is currently playable on modern

1660
01:50:49.760 --> 01:50:55.039
platforms, but metal Gear Solid four
and peace Walker have only been available on

1661
01:50:55.079 --> 01:50:58.640
their native platforms. At one point
during development, middle Gear Solid four was

1662
01:50:58.640 --> 01:51:01.800
allegedly running smoothly on Xbox three sixty, but it was never released from for

1663
01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:08.319
that platform due to technical and practical
limitations. I think it's also because Sony

1664
01:51:08.439 --> 01:51:13.760
locked it down. Yeah, okay, listen, they are going to do

1665
01:51:13.800 --> 01:51:16.000
a volume two. They called this
one volume one, and you can't do

1666
01:51:16.039 --> 01:51:19.399
a volume two without including metal Gear
Solid Floor. That's what really matters here,

1667
01:51:19.439 --> 01:51:21.119
right, Dan, What do you
think? Yes, yeah, hure

1668
01:51:21.159 --> 01:51:25.479
percent, that's the one, and
it's honestly, I think it's it's a

1669
01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:27.680
really, really great game. I
know a lot of people will find it

1670
01:51:27.720 --> 01:51:30.119
polarizing, but uh, it's it's
it's a shame that you have to hook

1671
01:51:30.199 --> 01:51:32.960
up a shoot PS three to play
it. So, yes, that's kind

1672
01:51:32.960 --> 01:51:40.239
of why I don't consider it a
main line. You just say whatever you

1673
01:51:40.239 --> 01:51:43.399
want on a podcast. Uh,
you know, it's just like a personal

1674
01:51:43.439 --> 01:51:46.239
thing that I've made and therefore is
canon. Now, I just don't see

1675
01:51:46.279 --> 01:51:48.239
it that way. I don't know
it makes sense. Yeah, yeah,

1676
01:51:48.600 --> 01:51:51.119
and when you can explain it like
that, of course it's hard to argue

1677
01:51:51.199 --> 01:51:55.800
look back. Yeah, it could
include anything to you. So I mean,

1678
01:51:55.840 --> 01:52:00.800
obviously those three games I think are
it's ghost Babble. Okay, I

1679
01:52:00.840 --> 01:52:03.359
think that's right too. I think
those games really fleshes it out. But

1680
01:52:03.600 --> 01:52:09.199
if they released it with just you
know, four, five and peace Walker,

1681
01:52:09.479 --> 01:52:12.000
that's that would qualify as the volume
two to me, and they can

1682
01:52:12.039 --> 01:52:15.159
get away with that. I think
sure, hundred percent. I would love

1683
01:52:15.199 --> 01:52:17.600
to see you play Metal or Solid
four. It would be hilarious to see

1684
01:52:17.640 --> 01:52:21.079
you play it not knowing what happens
in like two or three, because that'd

1685
01:52:21.119 --> 01:52:26.760
be fun. We've only played one, right, I've only played one.

1686
01:52:26.800 --> 01:52:30.680
In five really liked five. I
love one. You going from one to

1687
01:52:30.960 --> 01:52:36.119
four? That that sounds hilarious to
that. All right, this, if

1688
01:52:36.119 --> 01:52:39.319
this comes out, we'll definitely do
it, but maybe we'll find rates and

1689
01:52:39.319 --> 01:52:43.960
do it before that too. The
only one Bianca has played, And so

1690
01:52:44.039 --> 01:52:46.800
I cannot imagine having no context of
like even who solid Snig is and then

1691
01:52:46.880 --> 01:52:50.520
just playing the most batshit game on
the planet. And I don't really remember

1692
01:52:50.560 --> 01:52:54.680
the story of one, but I
could, like I play one, watch

1693
01:52:54.680 --> 01:52:59.039
a watch. You can beat one
pretty quickly, collection, so you should

1694
01:52:59.119 --> 01:53:00.920
just do one and we go to
four. Okay, cool, all right,

1695
01:53:00.960 --> 01:53:03.960
that's that's what we should do.
That's fantasy. That's like watching Star

1696
01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:10.640
Wars in like not chronological order,
but like numbered order. At this point,

1697
01:53:10.640 --> 01:53:14.119
watching a chronological order would be insane
too. Can you do that to

1698
01:53:14.199 --> 01:53:16.159
a person? Like? Should should
you do that to someone under thirty?

1699
01:53:16.199 --> 01:53:19.560
Like make them watch one through nine? Like please? No? Yeah,

1700
01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:24.760
but if you like include all the
bullshit side like Disney shows and stuff like

1701
01:53:24.840 --> 01:53:26.640
that, you've got a whole bunch
of stuff you got to put in there.

1702
01:53:26.840 --> 01:53:31.239
Fucking obi wan. Okay, okay, how we're good. That's colors

1703
01:53:31.279 --> 01:53:34.039
rebels, fine, I'm fine with
those at this point. I've actually been

1704
01:53:34.079 --> 01:53:38.640
really enjoying rebels for what I've seen
it obi Wan is a crime. It

1705
01:53:38.760 --> 01:53:42.600
is kind of funny that like someone
under twenty like you just can't have,

1706
01:53:42.760 --> 01:53:45.760
like you just can't ingest st Wars
in like a logical way. It's just

1707
01:53:45.840 --> 01:53:49.560
like it's there now, you know. It's well, I'm gonna present a

1708
01:53:49.840 --> 01:53:56.800
similar thing for someone under twenty five
or someone that has never experienced the Lord

1709
01:53:56.840 --> 01:54:00.880
of the Rings series. Do you
start them with the hobbit it? I

1710
01:54:00.960 --> 01:54:03.359
don't know, absolutely not. You
don't start them with a hobbit. And

1711
01:54:03.359 --> 01:54:06.000
then Dan has a good point to
take on this. You just love Lord

1712
01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:09.760
of the Rings over there, what
do you think? No, they are

1713
01:54:09.800 --> 01:54:13.279
all very boring, so you just
don't don't watch them, is the answer.

1714
01:54:13.439 --> 01:54:17.840
You value your time more than that. You make them read what's the

1715
01:54:18.079 --> 01:54:24.439
Silmarillion? Yes, and then you
like spin them around four thousand times and

1716
01:54:24.960 --> 01:54:28.800
in the woods. Yeah. And
then just like you know, I'm so

1717
01:54:28.920 --> 01:54:32.000
glad you Return of the Key is
like terribly busy all the time that she

1718
01:54:32.239 --> 01:54:36.720
doesn't jump in and just like Engine, he's always a thread. So I

1719
01:54:36.720 --> 01:54:43.520
would love those poppins from Lucy to
defend Lord of the Rings. Real Quick

1720
01:54:43.760 --> 01:54:47.119
VGC just posted a Modern Warfare three
p S five slim bundle has been spotted

1721
01:54:47.119 --> 01:54:51.680
in the wild, so that's happening
as well. Pairing that system up with

1722
01:54:53.520 --> 01:54:57.880
Modern Warfare at spider Man probably gonna
sell very well this holiday. Okay,

1723
01:54:58.079 --> 01:55:00.039
last two stories here, here's some
fun ones. We've had all the bad

1724
01:55:00.119 --> 01:55:05.159
stories. Let's have some fun news. Numbskull releases cologne based on metal Gear

1725
01:55:05.279 --> 01:55:11.199
Solid franchise. To coincide with the
release of metal Gear Solid Master Collection Volume

1726
01:55:11.239 --> 01:55:15.680
one. Numbskull has released a limited
edition unisex cologne inspired by the game's iconic

1727
01:55:15.760 --> 01:55:18.960
location of Shadow Moses Island. Haven't
you want to always wanted to smell like

1728
01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:23.319
Shadow Moses Island? I know kinda
yeah, I think I already do kind

1729
01:55:23.319 --> 01:55:27.399
of smell like that. Though I'm
okay with this. I there's something about

1730
01:55:27.439 --> 01:55:30.359
like, uh, you know,
yeah, I want to know what this

1731
01:55:30.399 --> 01:55:33.279
smells like. I want to know
what I was initially very skeptical about this,

1732
01:55:33.640 --> 01:55:38.800
but gamers are notorious for smelling bad. Yeah, I'd rather them smell

1733
01:55:38.840 --> 01:55:43.960
like an island than a gamer.
Yes, absolutely, definitely all getting like

1734
01:55:44.279 --> 01:55:47.319
I know that's the joke about cons
and events, but like, it's pretty

1735
01:55:47.359 --> 01:55:53.439
crazy that there's not been like one
Colonne or you know, uh scented Aroma

1736
01:55:53.760 --> 01:55:56.680
company to be like, hey,
we know it's tough. Hey you know

1737
01:55:57.159 --> 01:56:02.079
I made a ww F Colone once. Oh I'm just yes fan. Ever

1738
01:56:02.159 --> 01:56:06.600
since yes, wow, Well they
stopped making the Colone grub. That's why

1739
01:56:06.640 --> 01:56:13.720
they start smelling bad again. A
Numbskull has released three previous video game colognes.

1740
01:56:13.840 --> 01:56:15.359
Have you guys looked at this?
If you haven't, don't, Oh

1741
01:56:15.600 --> 01:56:18.439
what are they? I must know? I don't want you to guess.

1742
01:56:18.479 --> 01:56:26.479
Give me just some gases. That's
like warmish island. Oh really, fuck,

1743
01:56:26.720 --> 01:56:31.319
you're like warmish There. I spoiled
myself. I looked jumping flash.

1744
01:56:32.399 --> 01:56:38.880
I would if it's warm to crack. What is it like like a ratcheting

1745
01:56:38.920 --> 01:56:43.560
clank? You like you're getting a
little bit cooler crash bandicoots. I am

1746
01:56:43.640 --> 01:56:48.640
cool? Jesus Christ, what the
fuck? I'm upset by looking at all

1747
01:56:48.680 --> 01:56:54.279
of these. Okay, there's three
different ones, and they're they're very different,

1748
01:56:54.319 --> 01:56:58.039
but they are all Sega. So
there you go. Oh so there's

1749
01:56:58.079 --> 01:57:10.039
SNA cologne. Yes, how fast
smell like blueberry? Yeah? Blueberries two

1750
01:57:10.039 --> 01:57:13.720
more and they're nothing like Sonic,
but they are very alike. But you

1751
01:57:13.800 --> 01:57:16.479
know what I think would be a
good cologne, Samba di Amico. Oh

1752
01:57:16.640 --> 01:57:24.159
yeah, I can smell a little
spicy, you know, absolutely Sho Moo

1753
01:57:24.399 --> 01:57:29.079
Shoin Move cologne and yeah Kuza cologne. Oh yeah, just makes sense.

1754
01:57:29.880 --> 01:57:32.039
Definitely makes sense for sure. I
feel like I can smell that game like

1755
01:57:32.199 --> 01:57:38.159
Ki you probably smells great pop collar
and then you see yea absolutely. Let

1756
01:57:38.159 --> 01:57:41.920
me do a quick poll here,
who do you think out of all the

1757
01:57:41.960 --> 01:57:45.880
wrestlers I worked with at w E, who do you think had the strongest

1758
01:57:46.319 --> 01:57:50.199
Let's say it's a clone smell.
It's definitely like who do you think is

1759
01:57:50.479 --> 01:57:59.840
bathing in cologne? Like you will
smell him coming, miss dan uh.

1760
01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:08.279
Corey Graves the Godfather, Ah okay, all right, yeah he runs the

1761
01:58:08.319 --> 01:58:12.880
strip club. He smells like like, oh my god club. Hell yeah,

1762
01:58:12.920 --> 01:58:15.039
you don't into bathrooms. Like thirty
minutes after he left and there was

1763
01:58:15.159 --> 01:58:23.159
like he's still in here, all
right. Finally Blizzard is giving away a

1764
01:58:23.239 --> 01:58:30.920
Diablo themed PC that's liquid cooled with
real human blood. No no, no,

1765
01:58:30.920 --> 01:58:32.079
no, no no no, we
don't need to do this. We

1766
01:58:32.079 --> 01:58:36.199
don't need to do this. We're
running the promotion called Blood Harvest, where

1767
01:58:36.279 --> 01:58:42.359
US citizens can donate blood to win
a custom piece he infused with real human

1768
01:58:42.760 --> 01:58:46.359
blood. People need that blood,
don't they'll cool my blood there? Bad?

1769
01:58:46.760 --> 01:58:51.880
Alright's gone stale? Yeah, kids
do that with a They did it

1770
01:58:51.920 --> 01:58:55.479
with a comic book, right,
like they put their blood in it.

1771
01:58:55.720 --> 01:58:59.479
Yeah, like the ink or something
like. Yeah, this wasn't real.

1772
01:59:00.880 --> 01:59:03.600
Just told me it was red water, like red dyed water. That would

1773
01:59:03.600 --> 01:59:08.319
have been better. The PC will
include high end components and will be themed

1774
01:59:08.319 --> 01:59:11.920
after the Diablo game series. Yeah, we get it. In game items

1775
01:59:11.960 --> 01:59:15.319
will also be unlocked this more blood
is donated the campaign and Capane has already

1776
01:59:15.319 --> 01:59:19.079
reached twenty seven percent of its goal. Why did they do human blood and

1777
01:59:19.119 --> 01:59:25.039
not like pig blood? I don't
understand or red water? Yes too,

1778
01:59:25.159 --> 01:59:27.760
of course, Jen, But you
reminds me of a thing with the Yeah,

1779
01:59:27.760 --> 01:59:30.920
little naz X try to do something
with like blood and shoes, right,

1780
01:59:30.960 --> 01:59:32.760
whatever happened with that? Was there
a backlash? There was a backlash.

1781
01:59:32.800 --> 01:59:35.319
I think Nike was like, please
don't do that, and then I

1782
01:59:35.399 --> 01:59:38.640
don't think I think a Little nas
X was like, all right, I

1783
01:59:38.680 --> 01:59:42.560
won't you should be able to do
that? Is blood also like a good

1784
01:59:42.720 --> 01:59:45.279
coolant? Yeah, that's what it
was supposed to keep you hot? Like,

1785
01:59:46.600 --> 01:59:50.680
yeah, that's what I think is
like hot blood cool. Yeah,

1786
01:59:50.800 --> 01:59:56.359
I don't know. They probably are
mixing it together with some other stuff with

1787
01:59:56.800 --> 02:00:00.199
keep it liquid and actually make it
work as a coolant. Marcus, the

1788
02:00:00.399 --> 02:00:06.359
blood is human cooling. Oh man, Okay, yeah, hey, knock

1789
02:00:06.399 --> 02:00:11.359
yourselves out. I'm good. I'm
good on this. I'll just donate blood

1790
02:00:11.359 --> 02:00:14.600
for the hell of it. It's
so gross and I love the horror spooky

1791
02:00:14.600 --> 02:00:17.840
stuff, and this is terrible.
Listen, have fun, though, Knock

1792
02:00:17.840 --> 02:00:21.279
yourselves out. Jan I'm done with
the news. I'm handing the show back

1793
02:00:21.279 --> 02:00:25.000
over to you. Every time we're
about to go to a break. Today,

1794
02:00:25.079 --> 02:00:28.640
it's just I just feel iky and
I feel gross. Now it's blood

1795
02:00:28.840 --> 02:00:31.800
now. Before it was weird interesting
takes, but at least Dan was willing

1796
02:00:31.840 --> 02:00:36.560
to look past that. I can't
look past this blood. I'm gonna need

1797
02:00:36.600 --> 02:00:42.079
to take a shower. We'll be
break well. See breaks done, he's

1798
02:00:42.119 --> 02:00:47.079
done, he's rattled blood. Why
all right, We'll be back with emails

1799
02:00:47.159 --> 02:00:50.960
shout outs, and then we'll end
this goddang show. We'll see you have

1800
02:00:50.960 --> 02:01:03.039
to this quick break or break BombCast. The Giant bomb dot com is the

1801
02:01:03.079 --> 02:01:08.960
email address to send your emails to. Please don't send any emails related to

1802
02:01:09.000 --> 02:01:14.119
blood. Yeah, stop sending your
blood through email. Just just don't do

1803
02:01:14.279 --> 02:01:17.520
that. Please You like the I
think I like the smell like elden ring

1804
02:01:19.239 --> 02:01:23.119
that has like a nice musk to
it, right, yeah, yeah,

1805
02:01:23.279 --> 02:01:28.279
smell like twisted metal. Yeah that's
just what. Smell like chameleon twist yeah

1806
02:01:28.359 --> 02:01:31.840
yeah yeah, yeah, like lining
and stuff. Yeah yeah, what do

1807
02:01:31.880 --> 02:01:39.399
you think? Uh, Maco from
or Maco from uh Final Fantasy seven smells

1808
02:01:39.439 --> 02:01:45.039
like I feel like it smells cold. Oh it's like uh, it's like

1809
02:01:45.079 --> 02:01:48.279
the green gushers. Yeah, it's
like green. It smells green and cold.

1810
02:01:48.680 --> 02:01:51.359
Yeah. I'm not going to describe
further what that means. And I'm

1811
02:01:51.359 --> 02:01:56.600
also smells like radioactive Russia is what
it smells like. I don't know,

1812
02:01:56.880 --> 02:02:00.079
Okay, okay, uh hey,
Special shouts out to you the listener at

1813
02:02:00.079 --> 02:02:04.800
home. You've actually been getting an
obscene amount of emails, and I appreciate

1814
02:02:04.840 --> 02:02:09.319
that I read every single one.
Sometimes you don't have the time to get

1815
02:02:09.359 --> 02:02:13.199
to those specific emails. But I
appreciate them. I read them nonetheless.

1816
02:02:13.560 --> 02:02:19.239
First email comes from splotch. Hey, if you arrange the letters in kurbl,

1817
02:02:19.680 --> 02:02:26.720
you get back color kisses Splodge,
thank you. I'm wrong. Well

1818
02:02:26.760 --> 02:02:31.680
that fucking rules and spelled all fucked
up. It's cool. Yeah, it's

1819
02:02:31.680 --> 02:02:34.239
like I want to play that curbl
too. Again. I haven't touched it

1820
02:02:34.279 --> 02:02:36.399
since it came out. I know
it was released kind of early. It's

1821
02:02:36.399 --> 02:02:40.439
an early access. Was that this
year? It was this year? Yea

1822
02:02:40.720 --> 02:02:44.399
Hey, I got another question of
was it that this year? Backlar when

1823
02:02:44.399 --> 02:02:49.199
you play through Eternal Darkness? Was
that this year? There's no way I

1824
02:02:49.319 --> 02:02:54.840
better not be I don't know,
Jen, I want to say it has

1825
02:02:54.960 --> 02:03:00.079
to be. Ye, it's fucking
it's fun. I'm not total one,

1826
02:03:00.359 --> 02:03:04.800
it's fucking It was absolutely this year. Episode one was August thirty, first

1827
02:03:04.800 --> 02:03:16.319
of last year. Last yeary time, it's a valuable thing. Wait the

1828
02:03:16.319 --> 02:03:19.960
pendulum swings. Wait a minute,
Wait a minute, wait a minute.

1829
02:03:20.039 --> 02:03:25.720
We've been at fandom for I thought
a year. Yeah, we were still

1830
02:03:25.760 --> 02:03:30.560
under started re adventures. Yeahah,
in our last the final episode, final

1831
02:03:30.600 --> 02:03:35.640
episode is January twelfth this year.
Yes, what do you have like a

1832
02:03:35.680 --> 02:03:41.039
fucking private Wikipedia. You keep I
don't know. We posted these videos on

1833
02:03:41.079 --> 02:03:45.319
the Internet. Okay, okay,
buddy, whatever you say there please,

1834
02:03:45.359 --> 02:03:48.279
it's called Wikipedia. Come on,
get with the times. It's a cool

1835
02:03:48.279 --> 02:03:51.760
thing. That's a cool joke that
had the Internet's making right now. Oh

1836
02:03:51.800 --> 02:03:56.479
man, that's huh okay, anyway, take it away, Jane. Next

1837
02:03:56.520 --> 02:04:00.880
email comes from Aaron. Greetings bombers. Aaron here from Steven's Point, Wisconsin,

1838
02:04:01.000 --> 02:04:03.840
going two for two, shooting shot
at an email. Hat trick,

1839
02:04:04.000 --> 02:04:06.640
Jan, that's got to be worth
podcast points or a badge or something.

1840
02:04:06.840 --> 02:04:12.760
You know what you get a commemorative
podcast plate. I've been listening closely as

1841
02:04:12.760 --> 02:04:15.439
to what questions always flow to the
top to the surface, so hopefully this

1842
02:04:15.520 --> 02:04:19.039
surgical strike will put me over the
top in the leaderboards. Uh oh,

1843
02:04:19.359 --> 02:04:24.239
I'm what most people would call a
pretty normal person when it comes to eating

1844
02:04:24.319 --> 02:04:27.760
various foods. I may have some
quarks that people bat an eye at,

1845
02:04:27.920 --> 02:04:31.039
but only if you have caused outward
hostility amongst friends, family, and even

1846
02:04:31.119 --> 02:04:34.000
my significant other. I know when
it comes to food, you guys have

1847
02:04:34.079 --> 02:04:39.119
nothing but concrete, undisputed conclusions.
So I hope you can put this one

1848
02:04:39.199 --> 02:04:42.920
to bed for me. Science.
Yeah, provided a tall glass of milk

1849
02:04:42.960 --> 02:04:46.560
is available. What is the best
way to eat an oreo? I apparently

1850
02:04:46.760 --> 02:04:50.960
have a monstrous approach where I'll bite
the oreo or, in some desperate cases,

1851
02:04:51.119 --> 02:04:55.079
place the whole thing in my mouth, wherein the milk is sipped,

1852
02:04:55.359 --> 02:05:00.199
swished once sometimes twice to soften the
lot, then shoot to completion. This

1853
02:05:00.239 --> 02:05:02.720
is my rational approach, as I
tend to have a negative reaction to debris

1854
02:05:02.720 --> 02:05:08.199
in my drinks, and rarely are
you getting away uh clean with a dunk

1855
02:05:08.279 --> 02:05:12.000
from those creamy chocolate bastards. I
figure, why not bring the milk to

1856
02:05:12.119 --> 02:05:15.880
the cookie humbly await your judgment,
best wishes, Aaron. I don't know

1857
02:05:15.920 --> 02:05:20.520
if I've ever dipped oreos and milk. Have you eaten oreos? Yeah?

1858
02:05:20.600 --> 02:05:29.640
Yeah, yeah, you oreos and
Nacho cheese, but not milk. Hundreds

1859
02:05:29.680 --> 02:05:32.279
of oreos and Nato cheese. I
think zero and milk. It's just like

1860
02:05:32.680 --> 02:05:39.680
I don't know if I've ever taken
a walk. Sure I've ever put a

1861
02:05:39.760 --> 02:05:43.680
hat on? I mean I don't
very often. Sure. I don't think

1862
02:05:43.720 --> 02:05:48.880
I've seen dead with the car.
His head's too big for hats. It's

1863
02:05:51.600 --> 02:05:55.840
you've had cookies and cream ice cream
before. I love the flavor cookies and

1864
02:05:55.840 --> 02:05:59.479
cream. That's delicious. Yeah,
well that's oreos and milk. Yeah cool,

1865
02:05:59.520 --> 02:06:02.560
that's a cool milk and cream.
Uh. I think, like you

1866
02:06:02.800 --> 02:06:08.800
see these people that are doing this
interesting. I'm just willing to skip past

1867
02:06:08.840 --> 02:06:12.600
it, skip past it. I
was gonna skip past that. I can't

1868
02:06:12.600 --> 02:06:16.399
believe chance following in, go what
do you say? He said, malcus

1869
02:06:16.399 --> 02:06:24.439
and cream? Dan answers, yes, malcus in cream. All right,

1870
02:06:24.600 --> 02:06:29.960
we're gonna cream. I've never had
like sour cream cream cheese? You never

1871
02:06:30.039 --> 02:06:32.359
had? What is just? Like? Shoot cream? What is that?

1872
02:06:32.439 --> 02:06:36.359
We're the dumbest bitches on the planet
because all we do is we go,

1873
02:06:36.479 --> 02:06:40.079
oh, it's a weird, funny
hole in the ground, we should jump

1874
02:06:40.119 --> 02:06:43.079
into it, and we just do
it over and over and over again,

1875
02:06:43.119 --> 02:06:46.039
and we don't learn a goddamn thing. We're the dumbest mother What is cream

1876
02:06:46.119 --> 02:06:51.600
for? So I've seen a lot
of people eat oreos and what they do

1877
02:06:51.680 --> 02:06:56.279
is they stick a fork in the
creamy part and then use that to like

1878
02:06:56.359 --> 02:07:00.199
get big right now, I know, So they do that and they stick

1879
02:07:00.199 --> 02:07:02.119
it into the milk like that,
so they don't think it all mess like

1880
02:07:02.199 --> 02:07:04.600
drizzling cream on your chicken, like
I've really like, what is the like

1881
02:07:04.840 --> 02:07:11.520
use case for cream? I'm just
imagining you really drunk or just fucked up

1882
02:07:11.680 --> 02:07:15.439
in a robe in a parking lot
of a hotel, screaming what is cream

1883
02:07:15.520 --> 02:07:17.600
for? Until something like I've never
once. I don't know if I've seen

1884
02:07:17.720 --> 02:07:24.079
cream. Dan it's used for one
thing and one thing only, pro creation.

1885
02:07:25.039 --> 02:07:29.439
Sure it's next to email food wise, I'm serious. Does it cut?

1886
02:07:29.479 --> 02:07:30.680
I don't know, white container it
comes in. I don't know what

1887
02:07:30.720 --> 02:07:33.159
you put them on top of.
You can I don't know you can make

1888
02:07:33.199 --> 02:07:39.439
cream by like whipping milk like it's
milk. Cream is milk adding? Why

1889
02:07:39.520 --> 02:07:43.079
not just have milk then, because
you needed it needs to be like fattened

1890
02:07:43.159 --> 02:07:45.840
up for certain for certain recipes,
or it's a little more syrup profiles.

1891
02:07:46.399 --> 02:07:49.640
It's it's it does have a difference
like milk. It's just just milk.

1892
02:07:50.079 --> 02:07:54.000
No, okay, I'm just call
it milk, call it fat milk.

1893
02:07:54.319 --> 02:07:57.119
No, I mean, because then
there's the whole thing of whole milk and

1894
02:07:57.199 --> 02:08:00.439
two percent right there's and by the
way, that's a racket because it all

1895
02:08:00.439 --> 02:08:01.960
tastes exactly this. No it doesn't, Yes, it does. As you

1896
02:08:03.039 --> 02:08:07.079
do things to me, how do
you how think you skim milk and whole

1897
02:08:07.119 --> 02:08:11.920
milk identical one of them? Like
waysless or something that is worth that is

1898
02:08:13.880 --> 02:08:18.119
now I'm broking. We broke.
It's the exact same thing. It all

1899
02:08:18.159 --> 02:08:20.800
just says the exact same ship.
Just regular coke taste the same asst No,

1900
02:08:22.119 --> 02:08:28.680
regular coke tastes the same as diet
coke. As listen you by you

1901
02:08:28.880 --> 02:08:33.760
saying this, you therefore invalidate any
opinion you have about taste, about what's

1902
02:08:33.800 --> 02:08:39.600
good. Like we've established this all
right, so why even have an opinion?

1903
02:08:39.600 --> 02:08:41.960
Then why can't we just continue on
with the fucking you're saying. It's

1904
02:08:43.000 --> 02:08:48.960
indiscernible to me, like a coke
a full gimmick pepsi tastes the same as

1905
02:08:48.960 --> 02:08:56.439
a coke zero. That meant in
a sentence before it's insertible to me.

1906
02:08:58.359 --> 02:09:01.520
We're inside the whole to say it. And he's like so afraid, like

1907
02:09:01.800 --> 02:09:05.600
I'm not giving into this ship.
I'm not gonna say to me. But

1908
02:09:05.640 --> 02:09:07.760
he did, he like gave it
just exactly. He left the door open

1909
02:09:07.920 --> 02:09:11.560
just a little bit. I don't
think you're lying to me. If you

1910
02:09:11.600 --> 02:09:16.199
tell me you taste the difference between
coke and DIETPEPSI but bring you a great

1911
02:09:16.239 --> 02:09:20.279
deal of trouble. Then I feel
like you should. I feel like you

1912
02:09:20.359 --> 02:09:24.560
should be like, oh wow,
I'm this podcast with you. If I'm

1913
02:09:24.640 --> 02:09:28.920
you, I'm bummed out because I'm
literally missing out on a fifth of all

1914
02:09:28.960 --> 02:09:31.720
of the senses. I'm just like, well, I guess I taste was

1915
02:09:31.760 --> 02:09:35.399
better. Yeah, of course,
Hey that you lack the ability to do

1916
02:09:35.439 --> 02:09:39.000
that, I think you. I
think this is just more of your mainline

1917
02:09:39.000 --> 02:09:43.920
bullshit anything. I want you to
think about and be proud that you've been

1918
02:09:43.920 --> 02:09:46.720
on three weeks worth of the email
segment trick, but I want you to

1919
02:09:46.760 --> 02:09:52.600
think about what you've what you've done
to us right now. Yea and world.

1920
02:09:52.680 --> 02:09:56.399
So that is a weird way to
eat oreos, my friend, I'm

1921
02:09:56.479 --> 02:10:01.680
with Aaron on this. Uh,
I did the bumbles in my drinks bothers

1922
02:10:01.720 --> 02:10:05.640
me. I will bite an oriol
put the whole thing in my mouth to

1923
02:10:05.760 --> 02:10:07.720
taking it apart or dunking was fun
when I was a kid. I'm not

1924
02:10:07.760 --> 02:10:09.680
saying it's four kids. I know
people get a hung up on that,

1925
02:10:11.920 --> 02:10:16.199
but I but I put away childish
things as I've become a man. Though,

1926
02:10:16.760 --> 02:10:20.600
here's a little here's a freaky little
compromise. I'm willing to I'm a

1927
02:10:20.600 --> 02:10:22.520
cross this bridge with you, Aaron, Let's hear it. Come come with

1928
02:10:22.520 --> 02:10:26.439
me, my arms around you.
We're talking here. Get less milk than

1929
02:10:26.479 --> 02:10:30.119
you think you need, right,
don't don't fill up halfway, get quarter

1930
02:10:30.199 --> 02:10:33.640
milk. Right, crush up all
the oreos, pre crush them, just

1931
02:10:33.680 --> 02:10:35.800
throw them in there and then drink
that drink the slop. Well, I

1932
02:10:35.800 --> 02:10:39.000
mean you could like mix together and
basically make put some ice cream in there

1933
02:10:39.000 --> 02:10:45.399
and then you got we're really just
describing like overnight oats oreos, like,

1934
02:10:45.520 --> 02:10:50.600
let's do that. Holy shit,
I'm gonna I'm gonna delete this so we

1935
02:10:50.600 --> 02:10:52.399
could do this all right, Yeah, I'm into that. I'll do that

1936
02:10:52.399 --> 02:10:56.560
with almond milk, I mean oat
milk. Jan everyone listening right now,

1937
02:10:56.600 --> 02:11:01.000
take off your headphones, all right, take your headphones off because we're having

1938
02:11:01.039 --> 02:11:03.560
a secret planning meeting right now.
This is how we become rich, all

1939
02:11:03.640 --> 02:11:07.199
right. This is our brand.
This is our this is our alba altas,

1940
02:11:07.600 --> 02:11:11.479
this is our alcohol. I do
sympathize with the debris in the drink,

1941
02:11:11.600 --> 02:11:16.239
like it took me the longest time
to find orange juice. Orange juice

1942
02:11:16.239 --> 02:11:22.079
with put your head like acceptable,
you know, so I I sympathize with

1943
02:11:22.159 --> 02:11:26.319
that, but I'm not mad at
a little bit of oreo what's overnight oats?

1944
02:11:26.359 --> 02:11:28.479
Like, I've never done it.
I think I have a pretty good

1945
02:11:28.479 --> 02:11:31.159
idea what it is. But yeah, so the grub you explain it first,

1946
02:11:31.159 --> 02:11:37.039
what you think they are. Yeah, you put something like you have

1947
02:11:37.439 --> 02:11:43.159
a bunch of oats, like and
you even in the fridge, and then

1948
02:11:43.239 --> 02:11:48.079
like it like coagulates, well it
yeah, I don't know if coagulates the

1949
02:11:48.119 --> 02:11:50.199
right word, but it absorbs the
milk like it is milk. Okay,

1950
02:11:50.239 --> 02:11:54.920
all right, I use I use
milk alternatives. I use alt milks.

1951
02:11:54.119 --> 02:11:58.039
Okay. So it's not just dry
oats, right, No. They start

1952
02:11:58.119 --> 02:12:01.000
off you buy them like rolled oats
or whatever, Like I get the TJ

1953
02:12:01.159 --> 02:12:05.199
one that's like all the ancient grain
things that's all mixed up together, and

1954
02:12:05.239 --> 02:12:09.960
then I do I mix it up
with like peanut butter maybe like the tiniest

1955
02:12:09.960 --> 02:12:15.079
little bit of like chocolate drizzling in
there. She is all over that ship,

1956
02:12:15.319 --> 02:12:18.720
you know ry spices. Yeah,
you basically and the overnight is you

1957
02:12:18.760 --> 02:12:20.760
know, it's like a slumber party
and they all just get together. It's

1958
02:12:20.800 --> 02:12:24.600
like overnight. Yeah, okay,
and then it takes overnight for to soak

1959
02:12:24.680 --> 02:12:30.239
in. Yeah. I asked because
one time meet me and Stephanie back before

1960
02:12:30.279 --> 02:12:35.960
she's my wife. Thank you.
We oversuiting my parents, and right next

1961
02:12:35.960 --> 02:12:37.960
to my dad's chair, you know
dads they have chairs. Right next to

1962
02:12:37.960 --> 02:12:43.159
my dad's chair was just a cup
of dry oats, and she got she's

1963
02:12:43.199 --> 02:12:45.880
been fixated on this for years and
years where he's like, your dad just

1964
02:12:45.960 --> 02:12:48.560
eats oats. What's he doing.
I'm like, I didn't see him eat

1965
02:12:48.600 --> 02:12:50.960
the oats, but they were next
to his chair. They did look like

1966
02:12:50.960 --> 02:12:52.840
they had been dug dug into like
eating, and so I was like,

1967
02:12:52.920 --> 02:12:56.520
is that maybe he was doing some
overnight oats ship And it's like, no,

1968
02:12:56.520 --> 02:12:58.399
now those were just dry oats.
He was doing instant oats, which

1969
02:12:58.479 --> 02:13:03.079
is the opposite. Instantly in his
stomach they were becoming an oatmeal or something.

1970
02:13:03.159 --> 02:13:09.319
So I don't know. Still a
mystery, all right. Next email

1971
02:13:09.560 --> 02:13:15.560
comes from Ben the UK talking about
a sensitive hot topic. We're talking about

1972
02:13:15.560 --> 02:13:20.359
AI folks. Ben from the UK
rights dear bombcasters, thank you for making

1973
02:13:20.399 --> 02:13:24.159
such great podcasts for so many years. My question is about fake AI?

1974
02:13:24.319 --> 02:13:26.880
Are using AI as a buzzword?
For a few years now, I've used

1975
02:13:26.880 --> 02:13:31.640
an electric toothbrush that has a companion's
smartphone app. If you have the app

1976
02:13:31.680 --> 02:13:35.600
open while brushing, the phone detects
the gyroscopic position and angle of your brush

1977
02:13:35.760 --> 02:13:39.319
and shows you which areas of your
teeth you adequately brushed when I replaced my

1978
02:13:39.359 --> 02:13:43.640
toothbrush. Recently, this feature has
been flashily rebranded as an AI brushing Assistant,

1979
02:13:43.920 --> 02:13:48.119
despite no change in functionality. I
often use this as an example when

1980
02:13:48.159 --> 02:13:52.520
speaking to non techie people about what
AI means. My question to you is

1981
02:13:52.800 --> 02:13:58.039
what example of fake AI, AIS
buzzword, et cetera do you think we'll

1982
02:13:58.039 --> 02:14:01.239
come to see in video games?
Of course, the situation is muddled somewhat

1983
02:14:01.239 --> 02:14:05.640
by the fact that players have been
using the term AI to refer to computer

1984
02:14:05.720 --> 02:14:09.479
controlled players for years high reguards been
in the UK. You know, I

1985
02:14:09.479 --> 02:14:13.279
would think that games are better than
this. They don't want to use that

1986
02:14:13.319 --> 02:14:18.640
AI buzzword. Oh it's but no, it's gonna happen. Yeah, yeah,

1987
02:14:18.640 --> 02:14:22.239
that sucks. I don't know.
I mean, is procedural generation?

1988
02:14:22.479 --> 02:14:28.760
Is that technically AI. I'd listen. I'm not great at like delineating between

1989
02:14:28.760 --> 02:14:31.760
these things. If someone called it, like, oh, AI leveled creation,

1990
02:14:33.640 --> 02:14:35.159
I would be like whatever, and
I would move on with my day.

1991
02:14:35.760 --> 02:14:39.399
But we have a term for it, you know, proc gen procedural

1992
02:14:39.439 --> 02:14:45.479
generation. Probably just keep using that. Yeah, yeah, this doesn't I

1993
02:14:45.479 --> 02:14:48.199
mean, listen, buzzwords are gonna
buzzword. It's yeah, that's all,

1994
02:14:48.960 --> 02:14:52.680
like it's going to be a problem, but like, yeah, people should

1995
02:14:52.680 --> 02:14:56.199
be skeptical of all these things,
for sure. But at the same time,

1996
02:14:56.199 --> 02:14:58.840
it doesn't bother me too much.
So I just don't know what to

1997
02:14:58.079 --> 02:15:01.560
like. I can't put my stuff
in the mind of like a marketer to

1998
02:15:01.640 --> 02:15:05.279
imagine like what they would start using
it for that would rise to this level

1999
02:15:05.560 --> 02:15:09.560
of a two AI matchup making sure, Yeah, yeah, yeah that sounds

2000
02:15:09.600 --> 02:15:13.960
right, because yeah, you could
go skill based match making like AI match

2001
02:15:13.000 --> 02:15:16.079
partnering or something like that. Yeah, that stuff could definitely happen. Or

2002
02:15:16.119 --> 02:15:20.119
if you wanted to take over your
like skill point distribution, they could be

2003
02:15:20.199 --> 02:15:22.359
like, oh, you know AI, you know, make your build.

2004
02:15:22.640 --> 02:15:26.520
Okay, now I'm back on board. There you go. Yeah, instead

2005
02:15:26.560 --> 02:15:28.600
of watching someone play a game,
Hey, I just plays the game.

2006
02:15:30.159 --> 02:15:37.319
Mmm, I remember when HD had
this impenetrable presence where like they were putting

2007
02:15:37.319 --> 02:15:43.359
that ship on the back of pretty
much anything including like you know, windows

2008
02:15:43.760 --> 02:15:48.119
and uh like literal glass and things
that could not be HD, like a

2009
02:15:48.199 --> 02:15:52.800
vacuum or something like that has a
lot of pixels. Yeah, that's right,

2010
02:15:52.840 --> 02:15:56.840
and you'd have those HD glasses like
for old people. Yeah, I

2011
02:15:56.840 --> 02:15:58.800
remember those. We see that on
ESPN, the commercials for that. Yeah.

2012
02:16:01.239 --> 02:16:03.880
M all right, folks. We
did a little memory quiz on whether

2013
02:16:03.960 --> 02:16:09.319
or not we remembered a game that
was brought up, Cooper writes, and

2014
02:16:09.399 --> 02:16:13.479
again with another memory quiz. Hey, folks, glad to hear that you

2015
02:16:13.520 --> 02:16:16.640
all enjoyed the small quiz I gave
you last week. Backler asked me to

2016
02:16:16.680 --> 02:16:18.439
do another one for this week,
So here you go. All the games

2017
02:16:18.479 --> 02:16:24.119
here are from the PS three sixty
generation were sooner so twenty five to twenty

2018
02:16:24.119 --> 02:16:26.439
twenty three. Good luck. And
this is just as simple. Whether or

2019
02:16:26.479 --> 02:16:33.520
not you remember this Eternal Sonata.
Yes, the RPG, Yes, the

2020
02:16:33.520 --> 02:16:37.799
one about Chopin. And I remember
this more now because apparently it's the one

2021
02:16:37.440 --> 02:16:41.479
JRPG that Mike's brother likes and he
can never figure out why. He's like,

2022
02:16:41.479 --> 02:16:43.959
why do you like this chopon RPG, And he doesn't really have a

2023
02:16:43.959 --> 02:16:48.360
reason. He just does Ancestors the
Human Kind Odyssey Monkey Game. Yeah,

2024
02:16:48.479 --> 02:16:50.799
I like that lot. That's not
the monkey game. It's a monkey game.

2025
02:16:52.799 --> 02:16:56.159
Monkey game was Odyssey to the West. That game you're thinking different,

2026
02:16:56.239 --> 02:17:00.559
This is the actual two Monkeys games. No, No, this is not

2027
02:17:00.680 --> 02:17:03.680
like that, not that kind of
odyssey. This is like you start as

2028
02:17:03.760 --> 02:17:07.840
a basic primate and then you eventually
like evolved more like I'm thinking about the

2029
02:17:07.920 --> 02:17:11.440
character and who was just named monkey? Yes, I love this game because

2030
02:17:11.440 --> 02:17:16.079
it's a real weirdo of a game, very weird. Yes, and I

2031
02:17:16.120 --> 02:17:18.159
think it's probably off putting to most
people, but I'm like I always want

2032
02:17:18.200 --> 02:17:22.799
to go back and play more of
it. I love Ancestors Tokyo Jungle,

2033
02:17:22.239 --> 02:17:28.159
of course. No, L should
I Ascension of the Metatron. Yeah,

2034
02:17:28.319 --> 02:17:31.680
I mean I think you mean Shane
Bettenhausen's L should I essentially the Metatron?

2035
02:17:31.760 --> 02:17:35.360
Yes, this was like, uh
like a white background like game where like

2036
02:17:35.399 --> 02:17:43.079
you were like a figment of like
something right, Yes, platforming action stylish

2037
02:17:43.079 --> 02:17:50.200
action game. Yeah. Next,
greed Fall, Yeah, read full I

2038
02:17:50.280 --> 02:17:54.360
remember the name. I don't remember
what this game is like. This is

2039
02:17:54.399 --> 02:17:58.079
a for everything. This is like
an RPG, a computer RPG that came

2040
02:17:58.079 --> 02:18:01.319
out recently that was kind of in
between all these big ones, and people

2041
02:18:01.680 --> 02:18:05.719
were pretty hopeful for it, but
it kind of was like there wasn't much

2042
02:18:05.719 --> 02:18:11.879
to it. Vampire with a y
R. Yes, I remember that.

2043
02:18:11.120 --> 02:18:15.399
Was this the don't knod game?
I think it might have been. Let

2044
02:18:15.399 --> 02:18:20.159
me see that sounds right. Yeah, don't not is don't not like do

2045
02:18:20.319 --> 02:18:26.639
not move your head? I think
so, I guess what I mean,

2046
02:18:26.959 --> 02:18:31.639
like, don't nod to me?
Oh is that what it is? I

2047
02:18:31.680 --> 02:18:33.479
was about to nod to confirm,
but you told me not this weird?

2048
02:18:33.639 --> 02:18:41.639
Yeah, don't nod ruin her?
Yes, an it's a dual stick shooter

2049
02:18:41.760 --> 02:18:45.559
kind of thing. Uh. It's
pretty stylish, not not great, but

2050
02:18:45.639 --> 02:18:50.040
pretty good. Split second? Hell
yeah, building was it a It was

2051
02:18:50.040 --> 02:18:52.479
a power up racer right, yeah. It came out on the same time

2052
02:18:52.479 --> 02:18:56.239
as Blur, so there were like
two kind of arcade racers the game John

2053
02:18:56.319 --> 02:19:01.520
Drake. Split second Yeah, the
t O E M. Yeah, QT

2054
02:19:03.319 --> 02:19:05.840
art style. Are you taking pictures
of dogs or something? Yeah? That

2055
02:19:05.959 --> 02:19:09.879
is what that is. Yeah.
Yeah, And last on the list here

2056
02:19:11.440 --> 02:19:18.719
apb reloaded. Yes, what was
that GT A very ambitious kind of GTA

2057
02:19:18.959 --> 02:19:22.559
like that had a big online component
that wound up just not at all delivering

2058
02:19:22.559 --> 02:19:26.399
on the promises. That's right,
all right, thank you Cooper for that

2059
02:19:26.520 --> 02:19:31.200
email. A couple for those those
rules. Thank you A couple more here,

2060
02:19:31.840 --> 02:19:35.559
Uh Joe and Michigan writes and Wowie
Zowie bombers. It wasn't until this

2061
02:19:35.600 --> 02:19:41.319
morning that I realize it's to me
is no longer Mario. My son,

2062
02:19:41.479 --> 02:19:46.200
who was very into Mario is growing
up in a world where he'll presumably continue

2063
02:19:46.200 --> 02:19:48.799
to grow and be different from the
Mario of my childhood. What are some

2064
02:19:48.879 --> 02:19:52.200
healthy midlife pursuits. I've been thinking
about buying a boat since we moved out

2065
02:19:52.239 --> 02:19:54.760
to the lake, but it seems
like a lot of work much love.

2066
02:19:56.239 --> 02:20:00.719
Wait, so we're not talking about
Mario. No. I guess this happens

2067
02:20:00.719 --> 02:20:01.959
with emails all the time, where
they have a little tidbit out front and

2068
02:20:03.040 --> 02:20:07.000
then the question has nothing to do
with that. That's my favorite wild card.

2069
02:20:07.319 --> 02:20:09.520
Yeah, pursuits, don't do the
boat thing. That seems like so

2070
02:20:09.639 --> 02:20:16.399
much work. Just boats? Yeah, yeah, rent boat. I'm going

2071
02:20:16.440 --> 02:20:20.959
to say I'm doing like long walks
every day and like that's been a good

2072
02:20:20.959 --> 02:20:24.079
one. Yeah, hiking biking.
What is it? What's the name of

2073
02:20:24.120 --> 02:20:26.920
the app. There's a hiking app
that tells you the trails and all trails,

2074
02:20:28.079 --> 02:20:30.159
all trails. So yeah, we
were I just used this because we

2075
02:20:30.159 --> 02:20:31.760
were we were traveling to Hockeying Hills
and there's a bunch of great trails down

2076
02:20:31.799 --> 02:20:33.719
there. I used it, and
then I got home and I'm like laying

2077
02:20:33.760 --> 02:20:37.879
on my floor like being a piece
of ship, like I wonder if there's

2078
02:20:37.959 --> 02:20:41.079
trails around me, And of course
there are along a quarter of mile way

2079
02:20:41.120 --> 02:20:43.120
where trails everywhere, and it's like
five star rated. I'm like, this

2080
02:20:43.159 --> 02:20:46.440
is better than you the trails I
just went to on this trip I went

2081
02:20:46.479 --> 02:20:48.680
on. I'm like, go walk
this thing. So it's like hiking trails

2082
02:20:48.680 --> 02:20:52.840
are cool. Fully do it too, Like you can get in the bicycling

2083
02:20:52.879 --> 02:20:56.079
as well, like and get the
gear, but like get hiking shoes and

2084
02:20:56.120 --> 02:20:58.520
the fun little like walking sticks and
stuff like that. Make it a hobby

2085
02:20:58.639 --> 02:21:03.239
like that the way that's that's the
important thing, the healthy midlife pursuit is

2086
02:21:03.239 --> 02:21:07.879
yourself. Yeah, yeah, I
like that. Get better shoes, across

2087
02:21:07.920 --> 02:21:11.520
the board. Don't keep wearing the
same shoes or brandish shoes you wore as

2088
02:21:11.559 --> 02:21:18.040
a kid or a young adult.
They're all out of business. Sorry,

2089
02:21:18.200 --> 02:21:26.120
sorry buckler. Okay, they still
make British Knights. Those they must someone

2090
02:21:26.159 --> 02:21:28.920
owns. Somebody owns that fucking brand. Someone must. We should, we

2091
02:21:28.920 --> 02:21:33.000
should get sponsored by British Knights,
just like Nickelodeon. Be sick. Oh,

2092
02:21:33.040 --> 02:21:37.520
everyone's rocking. I don't know how
you pronounce them. Is it hakka

2093
02:21:37.680 --> 02:21:41.840
or hokah? What are they?
What are those that brandy? Hokah?

2094
02:21:41.000 --> 02:21:45.840
Yeah, everyone's rocking that ship.
Now. They're they're good. They're like

2095
02:21:45.959 --> 02:21:52.840
a slightly trendy your new balance,
good shoes, good everyday shoes. I

2096
02:21:52.000 --> 02:21:58.239
was at a bot mitzvah a little
while ago, and all the kids,

2097
02:21:58.239 --> 02:22:05.159
now, uh wear Jordan's with dresses. Oh yeah, that's that's that's it,

2098
02:22:05.479 --> 02:22:07.200
that's it. I didn't know that. I had not been anywhere where

2099
02:22:07.239 --> 02:22:11.719
someone under like twenty was like,
where's that come from? Jan who's like

2100
02:22:11.760 --> 02:22:15.280
the progenitor of that? Look right
now? You know the Lydia Rodriguez or

2101
02:22:15.319 --> 02:22:20.159
whatever. She doesn't wear Jay's,
she'd never be gone dead. It looks

2102
02:22:20.200 --> 02:22:22.639
for the brand. I don't know. I don't know, I don't know.

2103
02:22:22.680 --> 02:22:26.680
I get where? Where? Why
are we asking? Yeah? Sure,

2104
02:22:26.000 --> 02:22:30.440
where is it? You're you're you
like it? The youth loved the

2105
02:22:30.520 --> 02:22:33.200
J's. Part of it is a
style, like a style and status thing

2106
02:22:33.280 --> 02:22:37.440
right totally. Because the people who
are wearing Chucks didn't get asked to dance

2107
02:22:41.079 --> 02:22:46.559
No my hakeemlaja shoes once at school. That's fucked up. It was Jordan's

2108
02:22:46.559 --> 02:22:52.680
and and Commerce Chucks like that's where
the two sneakers of choice. It was.

2109
02:22:52.840 --> 02:22:54.600
I I'd never seen anything like it, but I'm like, oh,

2110
02:22:54.639 --> 02:22:58.079
this makes perfect sense. Like dress
shoes suck. They're not comfortable. Yeah,

2111
02:22:58.120 --> 02:23:01.319
dress shoes you suck when you think
about it. Our feet aren't meant

2112
02:23:01.319 --> 02:23:07.479
to be shaped and crammed into that
slim ass shoes. What pre co invented

2113
02:23:07.520 --> 02:23:09.840
heels? Like, get out of
here? Where are you guys at with

2114
02:23:09.840 --> 02:23:13.399
shoes these days? Because I was
for a hot minute, there were definitely

2115
02:23:13.440 --> 02:23:16.879
trying to save money. Was just
like getting a shitty throwaway pair from Walmart

2116
02:23:18.040 --> 02:23:20.879
or Target. Whenever I like,
oh these shoes are wearing down, I'm

2117
02:23:20.879 --> 02:23:24.280
at Target. I'll get another thirty
five dollars pair of shoes. I recently

2118
02:23:24.319 --> 02:23:28.959
did get a pair of Adidas,
but before we before some I got.

2119
02:23:28.200 --> 02:23:33.879
I got Adidas. I can't say
words. Uh, and I'm aware for

2120
02:23:33.920 --> 02:23:37.239
it. And they're they're holding up
and they're like even like easier to clean,

2121
02:23:37.719 --> 02:23:41.639
and they seem it seems like I'm
getting my money's worth, is what

2122
02:23:41.639 --> 02:23:46.159
I'm kind of Adidas. I don't
fucking I understand. Okay, there you

2123
02:23:46.159 --> 02:23:50.239
go, I thank you, thank
you for absolutely they were like twice as

2124
02:23:50.239 --> 02:23:54.159
expensive as the shoe I normally buyed
basically got it. But I'm pretty much

2125
02:23:54.239 --> 02:24:03.680
an exclusive Ultra Boost Adidas person.
I need I need this sockos ULTRAO is

2126
02:24:03.719 --> 02:24:09.520
just like the heel material and like
the knit sort of sock outer material.

2127
02:24:09.680 --> 02:24:13.719
I've got feet that need to breathe, I guess, I don't know,

2128
02:24:13.799 --> 02:24:18.760
and I need that softness on the
outside. So I almost only wear like

2129
02:24:18.840 --> 02:24:26.719
Ultra Booster. No complaints, no
complaints. They're my favorite sneaker. Let

2130
02:24:26.799 --> 02:24:31.639
me tell you, let me let
me convince you to join the congregation of

2131
02:24:31.840 --> 02:24:41.639
crocs. It's just not happening.
They're expensive though socks, yes, I

2132
02:24:41.719 --> 02:24:45.360
understand, but it's a premium that
you're paying for that adapts to your feet.

2133
02:24:46.000 --> 02:24:48.040
Crocs, let me tell you.
Let me tell you, folks,

2134
02:24:48.479 --> 02:24:52.840
they'll reinvigorate. They'll reinvigorate those little
bad boys you got at the bottom.

2135
02:24:54.040 --> 02:24:58.879
These are Birkstocks. What I'm saying
is Birkenstocks or crocs, Birkin crocs,

2136
02:24:58.840 --> 02:25:03.440
st Ox or crocs, that old
classic. Let me tell you. Tam

2137
02:25:03.440 --> 02:25:05.879
tried these on it the Boma thon
last year and I was like, oh,

2138
02:25:05.959 --> 02:25:11.079
mate, where'd you get these from? In heaven? I would French

2139
02:25:11.079 --> 02:25:16.239
Stewart react to them? Oh,
cheering, these little they look like potatoes

2140
02:25:16.280 --> 02:25:22.840
for your feet following me around.
Wow, I can put these on it,

2141
02:25:22.000 --> 02:25:28.040
just slip them on. Listen the
triangle, the cross, the crocs

2142
02:25:28.120 --> 02:25:33.120
stuff. There's something about it.
And again this comes from a place of

2143
02:25:33.159 --> 02:25:37.799
pure judgment, folks. I'm not
like, this is in no way me

2144
02:25:37.879 --> 02:25:41.760
being like they look uncomfortable. No, they look comfortable. But I just

2145
02:25:41.840 --> 02:25:43.879
can't. Let me tell you they
make stylish ones. Now, y'all saw

2146
02:25:43.920 --> 02:25:52.200
the looking ones I had. I'm
sure the pink ones look. It's just

2147
02:25:52.200 --> 02:25:56.719
I just can't do. I don't
know, like if that's what I said,

2148
02:25:58.040 --> 02:25:58.920
like spoke for them, would you
get him. Then he did.

2149
02:26:00.319 --> 02:26:05.040
He has he has a line.
I leave my post along ago. Jeff

2150
02:26:05.079 --> 02:26:09.440
Backar follows, how did you know
that? I don't know? Like again,

2151
02:26:09.040 --> 02:26:13.040
you know, I'll, i'll I
would like try them on, have

2152
02:26:13.200 --> 02:26:18.000
of this. My answer is like
such a hard no until if I if

2153
02:26:18.000 --> 02:26:20.079
I try one pair on and I
am like blown away at their comfort,

2154
02:26:20.879 --> 02:26:24.200
then maybe I would consider like just
the house pair. Yeah, just the

2155
02:26:24.239 --> 02:26:28.319
house pair. Hi'd your shame?
Yeah, I'm not going out to them.

2156
02:26:28.559 --> 02:26:31.959
This is this is what I wear. Do you guys do flip flops

2157
02:26:31.000 --> 02:26:35.200
or anything like that? I don't
want to. I'm uncomfortable. I don't

2158
02:26:35.280 --> 02:26:37.920
like Yeah, gets like I just
want to go outside for something like get

2159
02:26:37.920 --> 02:26:41.520
the paper or something. Put on
this. Okay, that's a good deal.

2160
02:26:43.360 --> 02:26:46.600
All right, all right, all
right? Last two emails. Uh.

2161
02:26:46.639 --> 02:26:52.399
This one comes from Robert from Florida, writing in about the Gimmick of

2162
02:26:52.440 --> 02:26:56.760
the Year. Hey, Duders,
Game of the Year is coming. I

2163
02:26:56.840 --> 02:27:00.840
think we should revisit the laughs and
memories we had together. Any edition come

2164
02:27:01.040 --> 02:27:05.760
in mind. They've presented several categories
here, Work of the Year, where

2165
02:27:05.799 --> 02:27:11.360
we celebrate a crew member bamboozling another
potential nominees Satan becoming a frequent guest in

2166
02:27:11.399 --> 02:27:18.200
Eternal Darkness. Sure Love saying Dan's
alternate Dan appearing in the background. That's

2167
02:27:18.239 --> 02:27:22.639
the name is Chris Friend. No, it's fine, don't take offense to

2168
02:27:22.680 --> 02:27:28.040
that. You have him in the
corner, just like Chained Up. It's

2169
02:27:28.040 --> 02:27:33.959
a it's a big closet. Bonyello
making Mike Boniello's Mike Manati song. That's

2170
02:27:33.959 --> 02:27:37.799
pretty up. There is good.
Okay. Now we have a Shoot of

2171
02:27:37.840 --> 02:27:41.680
the Year where we had a genuine
laugh together about something. Potential nominees Dan

2172
02:27:41.799 --> 02:27:48.719
realizing there's loading screens between counting boxes
in Sonico six. Yeah, film in

2173
02:27:48.799 --> 02:27:54.040
forty is a NET. I'm not
that drunk, not that drunk. I'm

2174
02:27:54.040 --> 02:27:58.040
not that drunk. I'm a good
father. We are so in love.

2175
02:27:58.040 --> 02:28:05.079
We should just do an annual.
A NET should film in forties. Every

2176
02:28:05.120 --> 02:28:07.760
film forty should be a double feature
with a NET. Oh, God,

2177
02:28:07.840 --> 02:28:11.920
Jesus, let's do a sandwich of
a NET. Start with a NET,

2178
02:28:11.000 --> 02:28:15.799
actual movie than a Nette. Jesus. Next sandwich, No, No,

2179
02:28:15.879 --> 02:28:18.120
I can't, can't. And last
nominee for Shoot of the Year Robo Mitch

2180
02:28:18.200 --> 02:28:22.440
getting drilled at the end of that
tunnel. Sure funny, that was perfect

2181
02:28:22.440 --> 02:28:28.120
moment. Gimmick of the Year a
category that explicitly doesn't have a definition.

2182
02:28:28.799 --> 02:28:35.639
Potential nominees janz A Red Beanie,
Jim Ryan quitting Sony, Lucy James being

2183
02:28:35.680 --> 02:28:41.120
okay with Wiki feet because her rating
is good. I love you all.

2184
02:28:41.639 --> 02:28:45.440
Robert from Florida. I really like
Gimmick of the Year and that anything can

2185
02:28:45.479 --> 02:28:46.399
go in there. That. Yeah, like that we could do that.

2186
02:28:46.479 --> 02:28:50.040
Yeah, that's a good bit.
That's like the one year we did the

2187
02:28:50.120 --> 02:28:56.479
Letter of the Year. Yeah,
and then j one, Yeah of the

2188
02:28:56.520 --> 02:29:01.120
year. All right, last email
of the show, and thank you once

2189
02:29:01.120 --> 02:29:05.840
again, everyone sending your lovely emails
to BombCast the giant bomb dot com.

2190
02:29:05.239 --> 02:29:09.680
Corey from Atlanta rights in, Hey
guys, my six year old says,

2191
02:29:09.719 --> 02:29:16.399
bruh a lot does he suck?
This is? That is the one age

2192
02:29:16.520 --> 02:29:22.079
I think where it would be cool. That's true. You know they all

2193
02:29:22.600 --> 02:29:26.440
mine's eighth and they all do it
too. Then it's more bro. They

2194
02:29:26.799 --> 02:29:30.120
evolve from okay, eight, he's
too old like that at that point because

2195
02:29:30.120 --> 02:29:33.959
they're like fully functioned. Well they
say bro, they everything is bro like

2196
02:29:33.079 --> 02:29:37.239
bro. Do just see the size
of that? That's not funny or endearing,

2197
02:29:37.319 --> 02:29:39.799
like a six year old is young
enough to be funny, saying bro,

2198
02:29:39.360 --> 02:29:43.920
yeah, same bro, Yeah that's
funny, that's funny. We there

2199
02:29:43.959 --> 02:29:48.680
was a moment in our lives where
we were all saying fat like that was

2200
02:29:48.799 --> 02:29:52.040
a cool thing to do. So
like, look, they d wouldn't shut

2201
02:29:52.079 --> 02:29:56.440
it. Yeah, you only get
to be a kid once, so h,

2202
02:29:56.840 --> 02:29:58.920
I would just look your kid dead
in the eye. Corey from Atlanta

2203
02:30:00.159 --> 02:30:05.200
and after he says bruh, just
go that's why yeah and walk away from

2204
02:30:05.200 --> 02:30:11.280
the room. Brother, thank you
once again for sending all your emails to

2205
02:30:11.319 --> 02:30:16.040
bombcassagiant bomb dot com. We got
a couple of shoutouts here starting now.

2206
02:30:16.200 --> 02:30:18.360
These are the shout outs for the
show right in your shout outs for the

2207
02:30:18.360 --> 02:30:22.399
show shoutouts. Is metroidread a mainline
Metroid game. It's two D and has

2208
02:30:22.440 --> 02:30:28.559
a title instead of a number.
Smiley face, Brian Cabrera, Dan's right,

2209
02:30:28.600 --> 02:30:31.639
Mario Wonder isn't a mainline Mario game, just a fun side experiment.

2210
02:30:31.120 --> 02:30:35.319
Skimbity toilet shouts out to my boy
Nick krom Nick, the reason why Jan

2211
02:30:35.360 --> 02:30:41.280
should stay away from Warhammer. Bro
bought a starter box within three months lost

2212
02:30:41.280 --> 02:30:43.840
his job, his wife, his
kids, and his house. By the

2213
02:30:43.920 --> 02:30:46.079
end of it, he was in
the back alley of a game's workshop,

2214
02:30:46.120 --> 02:30:52.479
trading hj's for model paints, well
screaming for the Emperor. Rip Nick died

2215
02:30:52.520 --> 02:31:01.799
doing what he loved, playing warm
Rammer and slinging hj's by asking your partner

2216
02:31:01.239 --> 02:31:05.520
post coitus if it was a worker, Shoot, it's good, Jed,

2217
02:31:05.600 --> 02:31:09.319
you look great. Bechler, you
look great. Grub, you look great.

2218
02:31:09.479 --> 02:31:15.040
Al card from the hit series Helsing
Ultimate Swack Pizza. I named my

2219
02:31:15.159 --> 02:31:18.200
season of blood character carefree, salt
Lick and twenty four checks. Please.

2220
02:31:20.479 --> 02:31:24.239
Uh it's thunderstorming right now and it's
too dark to see the salt lick.

2221
02:31:24.120 --> 02:31:28.920
I've been watching Rebels instead. I'll
get back to twenty four soon. Hey

2222
02:31:28.000 --> 02:31:31.799
nos, fuck you. Happy birthday. J. C. Tucker shouts out

2223
02:31:31.799 --> 02:31:35.120
to Mike, never saying a flower
is another name for a vagina ever again.

2224
02:31:35.879 --> 02:31:37.799
No, I know we can't say
the sea word anymore, but his

2225
02:31:37.840 --> 02:31:41.319
com still on the table. If
it is, what about a piece cooled

2226
02:31:41.319 --> 02:31:48.120
by crumb? You said you?
You should said Crumb first as well.

2227
02:31:48.200 --> 02:31:52.600
I think there Daisy is overrated.
Should have been Rosalina in wonder instead trying

2228
02:31:52.639 --> 02:31:54.639
to hurt our boy Mike. Huh, Rosalina is mid two. Don't make

2229
02:31:54.680 --> 02:31:58.879
me fight, y'all, pointing up
emoji. How fucking dare you love?

2230
02:32:00.000 --> 02:32:03.239
Sean? I have to leave soon? Can someone shout out? Just a

2231
02:32:03.239 --> 02:32:05.040
new product where she's editing, sound
designing and voicing in a new D and

2232
02:32:05.120 --> 02:32:09.559
D podcast called Tenders, Dan,
you have a normal head size. The

2233
02:32:09.559 --> 02:32:13.639
haberdasher two million podcasts points to you
the listener, I don't condone this,

2234
02:32:13.840 --> 02:32:20.000
and shouts out to babies. I
guess, yeah, what what's up baby?

2235
02:32:20.559 --> 02:32:22.520
They haven't done shit though, You're
right, they don't deserve it.

2236
02:32:24.440 --> 02:32:26.239
Get a job and we'll talk.
Yeah, you can accrue a balance,

2237
02:32:26.280 --> 02:32:30.680
but you can't hold on to the
actual points. Uh, folks, we

2238
02:32:30.760 --> 02:32:33.879
got out jam packed week. As
it turns out, every week is a

2239
02:32:33.959 --> 02:32:37.040
jam packed week. Games mornings for
the rest of the week. Uh.

2240
02:32:37.799 --> 02:32:45.799
Blight Club new season starts tomorrow.
Yes, I have apparently test Grub's wife

2241
02:32:45.840 --> 02:32:50.920
with doing impossible things with clothes,
so we'll see. I think I know

2242
02:32:50.959 --> 02:32:54.000
what the problem is. Hey,
Grub, can you take that well?

2243
02:32:54.079 --> 02:32:56.799
I don't want to spoil. Oh
yeah, take your headphones off for a

2244
02:32:56.799 --> 02:33:03.639
second. Yeah, oh god,
can you not iron like patches onto denim?

2245
02:33:05.000 --> 02:33:09.600
I assumed iron on patches where iron
on passes. Then then then iron

2246
02:33:09.639 --> 02:33:13.920
on patches have glue on the back
that milk. Wait are the ones that

2247
02:33:13.959 --> 02:33:16.920
I bought? Are they? Probably
not? You dumb motherfucker. Let me

2248
02:33:16.920 --> 02:33:20.879
see if it says anything about irons
in this because yeah, I just told

2249
02:33:20.000 --> 02:33:31.559
like iron twenty patches. Uh see, sorry to scroll through eight pages of

2250
02:33:31.600 --> 02:33:35.040
anti woodpecker stuff in my Amazon history. Hang on, Dan, for real,

2251
02:33:35.239 --> 02:33:37.959
that is come on, dude,
here it is no so wait,

2252
02:33:39.040 --> 02:33:46.280
come on, so or iron on
patches, Well, dude, iron on

2253
02:33:46.399 --> 02:33:50.360
patches have like an adhesive on the
back of them. Okay, and so

2254
02:33:50.399 --> 02:33:54.760
you go with that on denim should
be But yeah, then I don't know

2255
02:33:54.799 --> 02:33:58.440
what the problem is. I don't
know. Okay, Well, I'm gonna

2256
02:33:58.479 --> 02:34:01.840
be staying. You have to ask
them, be like, oh is it

2257
02:34:01.879 --> 02:34:05.079
Maybe you had a choice to choose
between iron on or sewing. Maybe there

2258
02:34:05.120 --> 02:34:07.799
was like an option, Dan of
like you know you want this size or

2259
02:34:07.840 --> 02:34:11.000
that? Shoot me your receipt.
Let me see your receipt here. Let

2260
02:34:11.000 --> 02:34:15.120
me show you just the choice on
the side. We gotta get grub.

2261
02:34:15.239 --> 02:34:16.280
I'm gonna put it on the and
the chat here if you want to take

2262
02:34:16.280 --> 02:34:20.239
a look at it, folks,
Well don't see that. Well yeah,

2263
02:34:20.479 --> 02:34:22.239
and I don't want people to see
it. It's DM me. Uh.

2264
02:34:22.280 --> 02:34:26.959
And let's bring grub back. I
feel bad. Yeah, grub grub over

2265
02:34:28.000 --> 02:34:31.680
here, over here reading there you
go, there, you go back there.

2266
02:34:31.760 --> 02:34:35.760
You got it all right? I
like we said, new season of

2267
02:34:35.799 --> 02:34:41.159
Blake Club on Thursday. Another episode
of Game Mass Mornings. But we also

2268
02:34:41.280 --> 02:34:46.319
have the Mario Wonder Grand Prix.
We're just gonna be racing for times in

2269
02:34:46.399 --> 02:34:50.440
Mario Wonder. I don't know which
courses we're gonna do or levels. Figure

2270
02:34:50.440 --> 02:34:52.280
it out as we go by.
Are you the game master? Jan?

2271
02:34:52.920 --> 02:34:56.799
Sure? I guess okay, I
gotta play more of that game. Then

2272
02:34:56.440 --> 02:35:05.879
voicemail dumb truck popping off this as
well as another episode of Friday Night Everybody's

2273
02:35:05.879 --> 02:35:09.799
the fourth of July game Mess on
Friday. And then what we also got

2274
02:35:09.840 --> 02:35:11.440
popping off is a upf still kind
of up in the air, but we're

2275
02:35:11.440 --> 02:35:18.639
thinking spooky themed yep, spooky Spookyuh, gentlemen, anything else popping off you

2276
02:35:18.680 --> 02:35:24.120
want to plug talk about? We? Oh? We said fourking No I

2277
02:35:24.120 --> 02:35:28.399
don't I think we're good. I
mean we have we explicitly been pushing what

2278
02:35:28.440 --> 02:35:33.079
we're doing for extra life, yet
uh we we start talking about it.

2279
02:35:33.159 --> 02:35:35.559
Yeah, and also I got my
flight, so okay, and so to

2280
02:35:35.600 --> 02:35:39.559
Minati. So all right. So
that's right. The weekend after the SF

2281
02:35:39.600 --> 02:35:45.639
team is congregating to for twelve hours, we're gonna have the Midwest team,

2282
02:35:45.760 --> 02:35:50.399
the East Coast team congregate together Middle
Coast. Yeah, the Middle Coast team,

2283
02:35:50.680 --> 02:35:54.000
Dan, do you want to share
what the team what y'all are doing

2284
02:35:54.079 --> 02:35:58.719
or is there for a long time? We need to start having a chat.

2285
02:35:58.760 --> 02:36:01.799
But like I've got a bunch of
like you know, like Warrior where

2286
02:36:01.799 --> 02:36:03.719
it comes out right before that,
like there's you know, Mario party will

2287
02:36:03.760 --> 02:36:09.360
likely happen. You know, there's
many different options. We'll start getting together

2288
02:36:09.399 --> 02:36:11.920
a real prison cell bunk bed situation
for me to sleep in. I do

2289
02:36:11.959 --> 02:36:15.920
have a trip. I have a
trip triple bunk bed. So him and

2290
02:36:15.959 --> 02:36:20.639
Manati, yes, enjoy on that. On that first weekend, I want

2291
02:36:20.680 --> 02:36:22.680
well, I want to do some
little stream that I'll probably stream for like

2292
02:36:22.879 --> 02:36:26.239
twelve hours, and I want to
do some DDR. I'm gonna get d

2293
02:36:26.280 --> 02:36:28.360
DR set up in place some of
that. So so yeah, well I'll

2294
02:36:28.399 --> 02:36:31.079
do some of that and then then
we'll head the dance and well it'll be

2295
02:36:31.120 --> 02:36:35.040
fun. We'll be in person.
We said some brute force. We'll see

2296
02:36:35.040 --> 02:36:37.479
if that gets played, we'll see
I did. I bought brute force,

2297
02:36:37.559 --> 02:36:41.239
so I have that. Here we
go looking forward to well, stay tuned

2298
02:36:41.319 --> 02:36:45.719
to the website. Lots of wonderful
things popping off once again. If you

2299
02:36:45.760 --> 02:36:48.399
missed the announcement at the top,
we now have a game spot review podcast

2300
02:36:48.680 --> 02:36:52.399
called the Game Spot Review Cast.
Go subscribe to that. Hey, you

2301
02:36:52.440 --> 02:36:56.680
know, while you're listening to this, I don't know, thumbs up the

2302
02:36:56.799 --> 02:37:01.159
video or podcast, review the podcast, I don't know, comment and stuff.

2303
02:37:01.000 --> 02:37:05.159
I have a friend's phone. Subscribe
to the podcast and subscribe. It's

2304
02:37:05.239 --> 02:37:09.239
like, do that, dude,
Yeah, mess with that. We spoke

2305
02:37:09.280 --> 02:37:13.840
about brute force. Brute force our
way onto your friend's phone. Do that,

2306
02:37:15.959 --> 02:37:18.399
and then we'll see you next week
for another episode of the Giant BombCast.

2307
02:37:18.440 --> 02:37:22.760
I've been chaanned, he's been chef. He's also been chef. He's

2308
02:37:22.799 --> 02:37:26.079
been Dan. And you at home, drink some water today, you know,

2309
02:37:26.239 --> 02:37:31.239
stretch, wiggle your hands a bit, and then you know, well,

2310
02:37:31.280 --> 02:37:54.719
We'll Wall Party reconvene next week another
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