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Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, October
twenty fourth, twenty twenty three. I'm

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your host, Jan Choa, and
welcome to the Giant BombCast, Episode eight

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hundred and twelve, Powered by Enzys
to You and the Power of Puppies.

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Today, we're constantly fueled by dogs, cats, all types of animals except

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exotic birds. The Giant BombCast does
not support exotic birds. We never have,

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we never will. Get those scary
little almost dinosaurs out of my face,

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and no problem with them. I
got a problem with them. They

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get there, they learned to speak. I can't have that, dude,

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I would be I wouldn't be surprised
to find that. Like you know in

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the Mario movie the it's the alternative
universe where instead of being descended from from

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apes, they're descended from dinosaurs.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that's

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true of Dan Data then he's a
dinosaur. Dan is descended from dinosaurs,

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while the rest of us are descended
from apes. That is where I'm at.

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Can you describe to the audio listeners
what's going on with my beard right

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now? No, I don't want
to throw up on my nice keyboard.

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It's several inches down from the face
part. The rest of the there's still

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more beard and in there is fuzz
fluff. He just got it out,

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Ladies and gentlemen, we have removed
the fuzz. Oh good podcasting? Was

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that from? All? Right?
Well, joining me is always co captain

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of the ship. Jeff grib It's
twenty twenty three. I'm taking gut health

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seriously. Jan that's right, take
your probiotics, drink some hot water.

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Expert on hot water and other hot
beverages and hot liquids, Jeff Baklar.

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That's true. I love it.
Huh. Everyone knows that's me. Give

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me a hot thing, and I'm
happy. We got the hottest thing.

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It's the hottest sport right now.
Yes, yes, expert on temperature,

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whether that's all things hot, all
things cold, all things lukewarm, and

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all things room temp, room tap
dan record, that's me. I watched

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part of the Grand Slam of Curling
in Canada in a hotel room. There's

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a lot of yelling in it.
Yeah, yeah, a lot of communication.

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Which one is the curling? Is
that the one where like they're brushing

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the stones, Yeah cool, and
those stones are like only come from one

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part of the world. And they're
super duper expensive and stuff. Why don't

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we get into this curl? Absolutely? Yeah? I mean is curling very

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accessible? Like I'm sure where Dan
is now? Yes? Uh, I

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think you have curling available to you
in any reasonable manner. Well, I'm

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gonna look now, I travel weather
situation going on here? I think so

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if a storm happens and I get
knocked out, it is the sky is

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weirdly dark for eleven thirteen am so
okay, all right, keep an eye

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on it. Saw you back.
There's a San Francisco Bay Area curling club.

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I stand corrected, and now you
gotta curl? You know what that's

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because it smells like something? What's
that? That was a little pre showed

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jem. Tune in live and then
you'll you'll get the you know, or

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check the twitch archive. I guess
how's it going? Boys, I'm fucking

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mad at myself and I'm I'm never
mind no no surprizes this. Yeah?

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Can I sit on the couch for
a second? Please wait? Actually I'm

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want to lay down, sprawl out, Okay, puts your feet up,

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Yeah, my fet I set up
my Uh. I've been in this house

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for years now, and when I
got here. I I set up my

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Internet like h like the pro I
thought I was, and I found out

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yesterday that I I've been living a
lie. You've been using Wi Fi this

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whole time. I fucked my shit
up and set it up the wrong way.

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And oh you got that reverse Internet. Yeah, they were taking the

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Internet away from your I reversed the
downs and the ups, the Wi Fis

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and the lands. I fucked up
so royally that I was just handicapping my

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entire network. And I only realized
that yesterday when I was upgrot when I

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updated one of the devices on my
setup. And I'm just like so mad

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at myself. Now, it's not
anything that's hardwired, so like this computer

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was always fine operating a full PA. It was just wireless stuff and also

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the other drops that I have around
my house using the Mocha technology. Sure,

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I'm just very mad at myself.
Uh rookie mistake, user error to

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the highest degree. I got it
all fixed yesterday. It involved a pinball

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machine, because all good things in
life do in your pinball fucked up your

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Internet story's oldest time exactly. Okay, my pinball machines are connected to the

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Internet. I'll have you know you
can't do that. Uh, And I

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find and and that and and it
was because I received a new pinball machine

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that I discovered all of this nonsense
folks. And thank you pinball, you

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fixed my WiFi. Look, long
story short, it's all fine. What

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was wrong? Okay, it's such
a it's a like I feel like eleven

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people are going to understand what I'm
saying. Hey, those eleven people will

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feel represented back. All right,
everyone knows what Okay, everyone knows what

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mocha is. Right. Moga is
when you take your internet, your wired

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intern Ethernet internet connection and basically place
it onto the coax use wiring in your

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house. Your INTERNT comes out of
the cable, it goes into your router,

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and then you send it back into
the cable so it can go through

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the cable and the rest of your
house. So instead of having Ethernet ports,

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you have coax sports that can act
basically as Ethernet ports. That's also

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a delicious chocolate espresso drink that,
of course no one confuses the two,

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but thank you anyway for discrepancy.
Right Listen, So here's the deal.

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I had four Mocha drops in my
house and when I say a drop,

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I mean like, oh, a
house, I'm sorry, a room where

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coax comes out. And that's the
beauty of Moca. You're like, oh

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damn, I don't need to wire
up my house because I got co acts.

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Because every house built between nineteen seventy
and nineteen ninety like automatically wired it

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up with coax. Right, So, because cable is always a thing,

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and they're like, all right,
we'll have cable in it. So they

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figured out the coax ethernet and that's
fantastic. Okay. I put a Mocha

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adapter, which is the thing you
need at the coax drop, which takes

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the the ethernet of the coax and
allows you to have Internet wherever there's a

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coax drop. I connected switches to
all of those Mocha adapters, so I

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give myself a couple options there.
And out of all those Mocha drops,

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I put an access point like a
Unify, like one of those Ubiquity dishes,

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an access point so I can evenly
spread out my Internet connection no matter

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where in the home you are.
Okay, so far, so good,

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So far, so good. Yesterday, I'm trying to connect one of my

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pimball machines to one of these wireless
drops, and I'm noticing that like the

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Internet was the Mocha, like was
connected, but there was no Internet coming

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out of it. And a couple
hours later I came to find out that

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the initial entry point where Internet enters
my home, I had the Mocha set

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up backwards upside down. Yes,
it was completely Internet. It was never

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coming out of these access points.
So it was but down the line,

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okay, okay, So like I
screwed up at the entry point of the

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house, but further down my Mocha
line, right further down the workflow.

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I had Moca working but like like
for like stations three and four. Okay,

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so like Moca's working there, but
not in front, so like any

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time. So there were parts where
I thought I had a wired connection and

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it was secretly, secretly, it
was a lie. It was a lie.

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It was a lie, and it's
it's a much longer story and much

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more upsetting story when you really drag
it out all out and unpacked the whole

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thing. But I fixed it through
the help of a friend. And I'm

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here to tell you that you should
get a pinball machine, because that's going

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to fix your Internet. Then again, we all who hasn't been there?

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How can I get the longer story? You? You be like, all,

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back Layer is such a dumb ass
motherfucker that you did this. I

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did this five years ago when the
Internet first got installed in the house.

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I did it five years ago.
It's been wrong for five years. Okay,

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yeah, that's pretty upsetting. Actually, how could I become the Jeff

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Backler of espresso machines? Where like
I just get sent one, you know,

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and like, hey, like he's
sending up dms. You know you

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can make it happen, all right? What's the angle here, guys?

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What's the angle? Where? Like? How can I convince a fancy coffee

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company to send me a bad YouTuber
an espresso machine? You say that,

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you say, I've been very vocal
about my love of coffee. My gamer

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tags a coffee thing, and you
know we I've said this for many,

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many years on podcasts, and I
would love to you know, I've heard

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great things about the product. And
you know, if you maybe if you

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do comp units, if you want
to send one out, I could do

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a post on Twitter. I could
do a post on Instagram, maybe story

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or two. I bet you Dan
could get all of us cast it,

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including himself, the whole extended giant
bomb universe, all of us wind up

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in a movie somehow because of Dan
Reichert. Is there a new Smurfs movie

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coming out? I would like to
be on that. What Smurf would you

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be, Jeff Greb I would be
the Lady Smurf. I think it'd be

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very pretty. Okay, it's your
name, Smurfet, Smurfat Smurfet. Is

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there a villain and Smurfs? Yeah, Gargamele and you look just like him.

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Okay, oh you are a gargamele. Listen, don't you think though,

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Dan, I know you're like the
ultimate con person when I'm getting free

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stuff, right, I have all
the confidence in you in the world.

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But don't you think like talking about
how you do it is like just the

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tiniest bit incriminating, like not a
magician. There's no code also, but

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like something about it, but like
I don't know, there's just something that

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comes off as like like a little
disingenuous. Like no, I think I

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think it comes across as extremely genuous. What genuine genuine? Yeah, thank

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you? No, Look, I
have all the faith in the world in

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you for this sort of stuff,
and I never would think twice. But

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I just also think that like,
yeah, I don't know, I mean,

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it would be just genuine, right
if I if I was trying to

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get free stuff that sucks and I
was saying it was good, that's disingenuous.

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But like, I'm only trying to
get free shit that I like and

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that I can be like, yeah, that's actually kicks ass, that's thing

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I got for free. I mean, honest transaction on all fronts. It's

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nothing but honesty. It's the most
honest thing imaginable. If I somehow can

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take that podcast clip of Jeff Bagler
talking about Mocha and convince them that no,

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he was talking about the fun chocolatey
espresso d a yes, And it's

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like, oh, you know,
we were just talking about Mocha's for an

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extended period of time and my coworker
was getting it wrong. He got the

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Mocha's wrong. But are you prepared
to be accused of being in the pocket

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of Big Mocha. I'm ready,
Yes, I've beat it. I'm in

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the pocket of my Bojangles Xbox series
X. If you think my love of

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my Bojangles Xbox is disingenuous and you
don't know that's a big pocket. You're

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like being there, You're good,
yes, yes, Uh, this is

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gonna be the start. This is
gonna be the launch of this. We're

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we're we're not only gonna start,
continue punching down, gonna keep yes ending,

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and we're gonna get an espresso machine
for me and then as soon as

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all three of you come over,
we're having fun espress or drinks out of

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teeny tiny cups. I find I
do wish that for you, Jan.

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I know how much you love espresso. I love it too. I want

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that for you. And you know, I think with Dan's twelve step course,

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you'll be on your way to getting
free shitting no time. Jeff Becker.

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Oh you know what else? I
love sat I love podcasts same.

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I love when a new podcast is
started, specifically from my peers and friends

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and family at GameSpot. Beckler,
that is right, Jan Ochoa, what

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use is the best? Reminded me
of like talk about you're the best,

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You're the best. Uh, this
is exciting. We've been working on this

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for a very long time and we're
launching a new podcast. Uh. Actually,

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game Spot is launching a new podcast
because we are launching the game Spot

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Review Cast, and that is going
to take like a curated selection of the

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latest and greatest game Spot reviews and
turning them into quick and easy digestible podcast

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episodes, mostly voiced over by our
own Fife and Tomorrow Hussein. Very exciting

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stuff. If if you're someone who
you know, you're like, I don't,

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I don't, I don't want to
read that review. I want to

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listen to that review for you.
Yes, this is for you. Uh

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So we're gonna help them host it, and uh, you know, shouts

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out to Tam and Emma and the
team at GameSpot that has been helping us

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produce this for a very long time. A lot of it obviously as a

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big lift on their end. So
it's been really awesome working with those people.

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And you can start listening to it
right now. The podcast is already

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live wherever you get podcasts, but
we're also going to be hosting them a

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little later today on giant bomb dot
com, So if you want to listen

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to it in a player on a
site, you can go do that.

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And I believe there will be a
story going up sometime today on GameSpot dot

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com that just sort of like intros
the show to everybody. I believe there's

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a Spider Man two is up there. Now, there's a couple other post

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you know, dated reviews and whatnot. And what's really cool too, is

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we're gonna anytime there's like a relevant
review that or a game that the gang

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talked about on like the after Dark
podcast, we're gonna sort of like surgically

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remove that portion of the conversation from
that show and also pop it into this

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other feed too. So it's really
exciting. Like I said, we've been

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working on it for a while,
and that is launching two day and you

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can get it wherever you handle your
podcast affairs. Let me tell you I

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I work with, well, it's
most mostly two people that inspire me to

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be a more organized person. Those
two people being Lucy James and Emma Fife.

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Let me tell you, Yeah,
I didn't know you could check off

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someone else's ASNA tasks that have been
overdue for an extended period of time,

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ticking those boxes and just being like, don't worry, Jen, I got

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it. Like shit, okay,
I didn't think you know you could see

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my board, but okay, uh
fantastic. Uh backler, what does it

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call it again for folks the it
is the game Spot review cast and shouts

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out to the fantom our team for
a dope blue logo. We got going

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on logs right, a little logs
act. So yeah, really exciting.

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I'm super I'm like half like proud
and relieve that we got this up.

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You know, it took a while. Everyone really put a tremendous amount of

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effort into it, so thank you
everyone involved in that. And it's super

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sick, just really well produced.
Very proud of it. Go check it

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out. Something that I don't know
if someone else is proud of. Let's

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talk about games by the Way,
Games by the Way, Games by the

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Way. I'm sure a lot of
people work very hard on this, but

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I don't know if they can one
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Jeff Grubb, this hurts me,
all right. I keep I'm saying you

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say it. I'm gonna sit back
and let you say it. I keep

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myself very quiet about this, except
for my love for Sonic Advance Too,

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which I still maintain is one of
the best Sonic games. I sat through

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Dan playing All Sonic O six and
just quietly nodded my head and said like,

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yeah, this is this is a
bad game. This was a dark

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game. I mean you can play
it if you want to as well.

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No no, no, no,
no no no, it's okay, it's

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okay, it's okay, it's all
right. We al replayed it. We

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don't need to rehash that Sonic Superstars. I loaded this up because I was

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thinking, oh, you know,
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But like I know that where Grub
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I don't want to put words in
Mike's mouth because he might jump in here

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because he's want to do as he
want to do. He's gonna get me

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here and say it's fine, which
is code for it's bad because he fine

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Sonic. When someone says fine,
you're you're just saying like it works,

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like it turns on and you can
play it. Listen. Sometimes I know

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I'm gonna need to say fine for
things. I don't want people to yell

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at me about so yeah most of
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I mean it everyone else, it
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the Hedgehog four, Yes, okay, cool, yeah, yeah, I

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really like Sonic all Stars Sonic Superstars. Oh boy, is this rough?

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This is this is not good,
gentlemen, This is not a good Sonic

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game. They had a good Sonic
game. Why didn't they do more of

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that? This? Wait, which
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good one? All Stars? Sorry? Sorry? Okay? And I didn't

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know if like Frontiers had breached into
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You know? No, I'll back
you up, grub Frontiers. I'm

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like looking for it, Like,
what is frontiers? You said a lot

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with one syllable? There really questioning
fun mileage out of that. The thing

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is, there's no questioning about Sonic
Superstars here, like that that power that

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you get before, like the First
Boss where you just launch a bunch of

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Sonics. They're all dying like what
are we promoting here? And you look

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exactly like them? So you get
lost it's okay, skillishe whatever? And

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then you but it's like it's just
badly it's so uninspired. There's nothing to

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care about there. It's like it's
really really weak. It's obviously not made

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by a team that had a lot
of leeway to get very creative. With

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Sonic. They had a goal get
a Sonic game out re established Sonic with

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maybe this like slightly updated art style. That stuff they did well with everything

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else. I think the music's not
very good except for a few a few

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exceptions. I think that the feeling
is okay because it like that they just

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took what work with Sonic Media and
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So that stuff is mostly okay.
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and not interesting, and there's just
nothing, nothing new that's inspiring. There

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is nothing where you feel like,
oh man, this is a spark of

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something new. It is always a
callback to the older Sonics and it's either

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exactly like that to the point where
it's like, okay, yeah, being

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underwater and having to get oxygen it's
memorable. Not actually a great gameplay mechanic,

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but memorable. And now we're just
doing exactly that again with no nothing

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sprinkled on top. No like,
hey, let's let's take that to the

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next level and do something with that. No, they aren't gonna do that.

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They never throughout this entire game,
they never do that, and I

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found myself getting pretty frustrated. And
then the boss fights are inane that they

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are inane That's the thing that bugs
me the most is like I enjoyed the

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format of the old or original boss
battles where it's like, all right,

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I can kind of cheessee this.
If I get stuck in this corner,

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I can keep bouncing on like Eggman's
head and then get rid of them super

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quick. They draw these boss battles
out so long when they don't need to

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be, and like, it just
completely stalls any momentum that you start to

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build up with a game, and
it just Sonics whole thing is about going

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fast. Sonic goes much faster in
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Yeah, well, it's a lot
a lot of waiting here. It is,

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Uh, you hit the boss once
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his entire routine again, and you're
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You got to just wait for him
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occasionally, after he gets through doing
his thing, you can force him back

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into a position where you can hurt
him again. But most of the time

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you're just waiting for that opportunity,
and there's nothing fun about that. It

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is just waiting and occasionally dodging some
stuff. But it's you're just sitting around

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so and then the final boss fight
is the worst offender with that stuff,

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and it's a lot of trial and
air. And I probably spent about forty

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five minutes on that boss fight.
It felt like hours. Like Mike warned

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me, it's like people a sand
it's gonna take hours. And I got

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really five minutes for the A Sonic
boss fight for the last Sonic buff fight,

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trying it over and over and over, and I probably tried like fifteen

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times. It is kind of where
I ended up. A lot of those

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were like tilted, like thirty second
attempts where I got hit early. I'm

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like, fuck this, I'm starting
over. But yeah, I like looked

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at the clock because I like texted
Mike and I said, I hate this

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game, and I've said that before
the boss fight. I'm in the last

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level. Just the last level is
actually really bad too. It is you're

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going through You're like, why is
this so weirdly designed? Why does this

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feel stilted and odd? And then
you realize it's because the way that they're

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elongating this game is you're going to
play that exact same level as soon as

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it's over. The second act is
spoilers for fucking Sonic Superstary Live with it.

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You're going to go back through that
level exactly the same, but everything

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is in reverse. So it's like
they just kind of up, yeah,

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exactly, so soon it's it's like, oh, so you just did a

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bad job designing it both ways and
just kind of called it a day.

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And so I'm like, I hate
this game. I could tell that this

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level is just complete shit already,
and then I got the boss fight a

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little bit after that, and that
was like probably an hour between that when

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I finally beat it. So I'm
like, I spent probably about forty five

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minutes on that boss and I hated
every second of it. It's bad,

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bad I had. I kept saying
that I beat this before I really played

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Wonder. So we played Wonder that
day. Thank God I got this to

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get some of that in there,
to like really give me the urge to

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beat this thing and get through it. But I got through it. And

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what do the gimmicks feel about it? Uh? So yeah this they Addie

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keeps going to it and she is
definitely getting something out of it, but

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she just really likes Sonic and I
think the way the characters look is pretty

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good. They got the fat little
you know, stumpy Sonic, which is

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quite shiny. They're shiny looking characters
at sam Yes, and I'm like,

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most of that stuff actually works surprisingly
well. Obviously I prefer sprites because I'm

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forty fucking years old, but they
did a good job of capturing that magic

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in this game to the point where
I'm like, I'm pretty happy with the

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look and and if this is going
to be the future of how these games

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are going to look, I think
that's just fine. But this is Sega

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and Sonic team going to our zes
the developer, and that's the developer of

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baland Wonderworld and the developer of Yoshi's
New Island. And it's like, that's

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the kind of level of quality that
you're going to get out of our zest

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because they are just going to do
a job. And if you don't give

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them good direction, you're gonna end
up with a balland Wonder World. If

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you give them kind of okay Nintendo
direction, you get a Yoshi's New Island,

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which is not good but not the
worst thing in the world. And

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that's kind of what this is.
It's not good, it's not the worst

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thing in the world, and that's
where you can. If you're a Sonic

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fan, I think you do come
away from this going maybe it's fine,

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or maybe you end up like Jan
and being like, especially Jane, you

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played Mario right before this. Yeah, that's not gonna help this game at

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all. It is doing it.
No favors. You can. You literally

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cannot go from Mario to this game. No one on Earth would have a

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good better time with this game than
with Mario. It's like one dude who

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is adamant that, Like, I
played both of them, Sonic's definitely better.

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No, yeah, there's eleven of
them out there. The most indefensible

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things. The people that get the
Mocha are the people that are big Sonic

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fans, and they're gonna like this
better than that. Absolutely, I disagree.

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I think most Mocha people will realize. I mean, I have not

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played Sonic, but I know Mario
is amazing, So I just want to

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set the record ste thank you.
I feel like it's it's similar to how

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Silent Hill fans must feel, where
it's like, hey, you know,

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we got something finally, We'll just
deal with it. It's cool. No,

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it's cool, it's fine. We're
satiated for now. Does any woudn't

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understand what that new Silent Hill thing
is that like Silent Hill interactive TV show

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that is coming out soon? Yeah? What is that? No? I

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don't I don't really understand. I
don't know. I'm mildly interested if when

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does it launch? And people in
check and shout out they want to help

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us there, because maybe we could
like sit in and watch the first episode

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and like and do that line.
Oh yeah, let's do an illegal stream

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and we don't okay, I like
that. Well. Speaking about going fast,

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Jeff Grubb, you've been going fast
in a car? Yeah, I

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played. I can't remember the name
of this game. I just call it

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Hot Wheels too. Is it super
charged? So what it's called? I

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trust turbo charge sounds right. This
is a sequel to the one that came

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out not that long ago, right
like during the pandemic with the Hot Wheels

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tracks and like tiny car, big
world type thing. Yes, exactly,

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the first the first stages at bedroom
gimmick by the way, a Big World

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Wheels, Hot Wheels Unleashed, two
colon turbo charged. Thank you. Yeh

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see, this is why I can't
remember. That's just a bone. That's

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word soup there, but whatever,
it's a good game. I was okay.

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So I played Turbo Charged one right
after I played Cruise and Blast.

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And Cruise and Blast is such a
roller coaster ride, like you could tell

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it's cheating to make sure it keeps
you doing the fun stuff. But I'm

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like, I like doing fun stuff, so that's great for me. I'm

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having a good time here, and
it's like obviously a port of an arcade

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game, but they did a pretty
good job of bringing it to the home

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and just making it feel like a
good time. And then I went to

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Hot Wheels and it's like this arcade
reser that's kind of like in between,

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like, Okay, you're gonna be
doing power power slides and stuff like that,

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but it's still going to try to
be some It's gonna it's still the

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vibes of something that's like a roller
coaster, but you're in control a lot.

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And I didn't like the way it
felt so much, and so I

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didn't stick with it. This one
I picked up, and either I'm in

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a different place or the game has
improved to the point where I'm like,

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I really like the way this one
feels now the power slides are very good.

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You are breaking into the turns and
then you're just feathering the break in

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the gas to make sure that you
could stay in the middle of the track.

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You're pulling out of the turn and
you're building up your it's it's a

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it's an arcade racer. You're building
up your power meter and then you're boosting

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out of that and you've got really
cool air control, something I think was

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in the first game. All that
stuff is just working better here than it

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did in the last one. Uh
So yeah, I'm like, I'm definitely

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in the mood for this game.
It's really hitting better than the first one

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for me, but I've played a
ton of it, so I'm not sure

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like what the variety is like and
what the unlocks are like. Seems like

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that stuff is pretty promising. But
in terms of the gimmick of Hey Little

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Cars, Big World, this is
another great one of those, and I

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like immediately was like, oh yeah, bedroom level, let's let's go.

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So yeah, I'm into it.
I wonder if is the air control gimmick

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and like the different controls and stuff, would it wouldn't make it so it

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would be hard on a steering wheel
because I was thinking about breaking out the

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steering wheel for that. Well,
let's think, yes, yeah, I

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probably would because I'm like some steering
wheels have like a dpad, but that's

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not going to give you need analog
sticks for because it's like both analog sticks

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00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,400
to do full air control. I
don't know how an arcade racer that's going

403
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,440
to be for families. I don't
know how many levels are going to have

404
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,160
a requirement for you to do difficult
air control like Rocket League style air control.

405
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,559
You're like, okay, I am, do you want to jump off

406
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,279
this and now I want to be
upside down and sort of diagonal to hit

407
00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:17,000
this track up here to continue this. They're not going to do a lot

408
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,079
of that, but maybe there are
some like shortcuts that take advantage of that.

409
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:23,440
Again, I haven't played a ton. I think that like having that

410
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,039
option in there to increase the skill
ceiling so you can get even more out

411
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:30,519
of this is probably pretty important to
like the long term enjoyment of this game.

412
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,680
But if you're just going in to
have a good time for a little

413
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,200
bit, maybe a racing bill could
be fun. I would probably recommend a

414
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,039
controller, though I think I'm in
the mood for a racing game. I

415
00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:42,119
think, yeah, I didn't realize
it you describing it. It's like,

416
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,200
yeah, I think I could play
some of that right now. I think,

417
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,279
yeah, I think this is the
one that definitely check in on.

418
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,960
It's definitely working for me. I
was going to say the same. Yeah,

419
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:53,680
I love the first one a lot, especially the track builder. That

420
00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:56,519
was tons of fun. Oh yeah, that makes sense. That could be

421
00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:00,160
a good time. Yeah, yeah, I think like it's I think just

422
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,359
from a just a position of like
timing, this is gonna be a tough

423
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:10,200
one to like fit in right for
me. Yeah, It's it's a it's

424
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,839
you know, victim to the time
in which it's released, right, So

425
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,640
I'm just gonna have to like put
a pin in this one and then twenty

426
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,160
twenty four to five, whenever I
get around to it, is gonna have

427
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,680
to be the date for this one. But uh, it's what I'm putting

428
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,359
on my my Steam deck and I'm
gonna be okay, I'll be picking it

429
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,400
up there here and there. I
loved it. I love that first one.

430
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,039
Who's great. Have any of you
gentlemen ever used tilt controls while playing

431
00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:38,559
something like Mario carton. No,
it's no jan, come on, what

432
00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:41,799
do you I don't know, because
Dan was talking about like playing a racing

433
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:45,039
game with a wheel, and I
was like, you know, sometimes I

434
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:48,839
could just tilt that bad boy,
but it never works how I wanted to

435
00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:51,400
work. You don't want it,
even even with the plastic gimmick like the

436
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,839
old Mario kartwee thing. You don't
want it. No, no, no,

437
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,960
do not ever because of that thing. I was just like, I

438
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,480
don't want to play. I know
you could play with controller, but I'm

439
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,319
like, fuck that. I don't
know. I never played it to me

440
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:07,400
here, it's really good levels.
I should go back and try it.

441
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,160
Does there'll be an eight eventually,
right, Yeah, I please run to

442
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,480
ten now because Mario Kart Mobile is
is nine according to Nintendo. You've got

443
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,000
to keep up, jam keep up. Oh my god? What is the

444
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,359
RC car one? Then? Oh
tour yeah, I know, live live

445
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:26,160
my way, tour live. I
think both words are in there, I

446
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,400
think, But uh, yeah,
he's gonna get a little car. Yeah,

447
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:32,680
I don't know. That was a
point five. I guess the kids

448
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,240
love that game. Man, it's
they've never actually played the game part.

449
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:37,559
They just ride it. Around and
see themselves in the camera. And then

450
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,839
last yeah, it's off. It's
fun. I just found the track stuff

451
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:44,759
to make the tracks, and I
have enough room in this basement, and

452
00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:47,559
I'm like, I should just set
that up for like Christmas or something,

453
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:51,079
and that would be like I've got
the gift, like like two gift giving

454
00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:56,640
opportunities out of that. And live
home circuit. Okay, there it is.

455
00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:02,000
Home circuit. It's kind of a
tour. It's it's funny like how

456
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,799
they play in a home tour,
live circuit whatever we called it. Uh,

457
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,519
how when you're playing on your switch, it looks like you're going incredibly

458
00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:14,359
fast, but then when you look
at the actual Mario Kart in real life,

459
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,200
it's just going. Is that Is
that the theory of relativity because it's

460
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,799
smaller that like speed is, affects
it different. I'm not ready to describe

461
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:27,799
physics right now. Sure the questions
like or not, hey answer and fast

462
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:33,160
and they're tiny. Listen answer fast. I saw the movie Clock Stoppers ASI

463
00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:40,079
and it has messed me up.
The French Stewart Classic Clock Stoppers French cinema

464
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,640
of course, cinema financial And then
he had said, oh, we're not

465
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,559
really stopping time, so we're just
going really fast. Didn't know Jan had

466
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:53,039
a great French. I didn't know
either, and I'm kind of a shamed

467
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:56,079
that I do. I just want
to see your face when you did that

468
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,960
voice, an, could you just
do that one more time for me?

469
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:07,160
It's not we're not really stopping pie, We're going fast. When Little Jimmy

470
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,839
Stewart is a monologue and it's just
stuck with me, and it's just like

471
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,240
one of those stupid things you hear
as a kid of like, no,

472
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:19,799
he's right, Frinch Stewart, Jimmy
Stewart's son. That would be messed up.

473
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:27,160
I'm not looking at differently. Yes, Jimmy Stewart. Yeah, they

474
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,640
sounded like that. Huh huh.
Well that's just my head canon now,

475
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:36,359
uh huh uh. God, what's
another Stewart related to them? Little Stewart

476
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,400
John John, Yeah, Stuart,
the guy from Mad TV, the one

477
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:49,440
with the legs. God man,
any time Mad TV comes up, I

478
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,200
feel like other folks will just get
filled with rage and disgust, and I

479
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,200
get filled with joy. I mean
that makes sense. It just makes me

480
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,920
think of in living color, and
then I get happy. That's where yeah,

481
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:04,359
that's Will Sasso up to He's in
stuff. He's in stuff. He's

482
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:09,200
always got like, he's got speaking
lines in shows. I see him a

483
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:15,599
lot, he will right there,
two different people, like the ginger stand

484
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,279
up comedian who always goes hot pockets. That guy. Yeah, okay,

485
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:25,240
Will Sasso. Will Sash appeared on
Raw as Hulk Hogan once. That's cool.

486
00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:29,599
He's in a lot of No,
he's in a lot of stuff.

487
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,920
Like I'm just looking at his wiki
recently. He just finds his stuff in

488
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:37,200
like everything. I feel like I
see him on a bunch of streaming shows

489
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,039
where he's just Will and Jim Gafkin
are different than the Mad TV guy that

490
00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:45,039
did the impressions, right, Who's
Who's that? That's the guy who does

491
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:52,319
Madden. Yes, okay, all
right, okay, I'm just trying to

492
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,880
keep him all straight. I've played
Madden with him. I don't know,

493
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,880
I don't know how you confuse Sasso
and gaffigin that to me is like there

494
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:06,440
they're white pasty comedians. Not really. I mean, okay, it's fine

495
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:12,440
on behalf of all pasty people.
No, But Jeff Greb that was a

496
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:16,840
wild swing of a comparison there and
speaking about Swinging Marvel Spider Man two.

497
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,599
I don't know if anyone else has
anything to say about it. It's a

498
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:23,480
good game. I like it.
Fucking amazing, is what I'll say.

499
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:28,639
I back, Have you guys beaten
it? No? Come on, I

500
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:32,920
stopped finished at you jumped off you. I stopped after I did all of

501
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,320
the side stuff and I had ten
story missions left. And you don't want

502
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,559
to see what happens. You don't
care what happens with with Spider Man's absolutely

503
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:45,320
not meet the spider Mans. Can
I can I ask this is a a

504
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,719
Mike manatty point that I fully agree
with The people in this game smile too

505
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,400
much. Sure, yeah, they're
like, uh, they're like they look

506
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,199
like real dolls sometimes. Sure,
I know. Wait, I have trouble

507
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,599
trusting any of the Osbourne's as is
because of I just know their characters from

508
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:06,960
the comics and movies. Uh,
and just seeing that motherfucker smile all the

509
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:09,800
time. It's like, I don't
I don't believe you're you're genuine here,

510
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:14,639
Jerry Dan. You bounced off this
game because of the storyline. Is that

511
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:17,760
what am I to believe? Honestly, didn't mind the story itself for the

512
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,400
way they were portraying like it's it's
They're doing a good job in the cinematics

513
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,239
and everything. It's just all those
story missions were very long, already boring

514
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,320
compared to I like the open world
stuff. Commata. Yes, I just

515
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,400
not my I don't care enough about
Spider Man to push through because of that.

516
00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:38,480
So I got to that one Mary
James sneaking around the house things like,

517
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,519
you know, I'm good. I
got a good get the Halo pistol

518
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:45,039
though, and that feels pretty cool. Yeah, it's pretty the shocking,

519
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,760
Yeah, it's it's pretty cool.
Jan Does Harry Osbourne look like Ruffio to

520
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,480
you because he does to me?
No, No, no, he said

521
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,320
that out loud on a podcast,
didn't he, Jen, I'm just gonna

522
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,599
we just move on. I just
the Filipino American community does not claim Harry

523
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:09,519
Osborg nor do we condone the statements. If Harry Osbourton was, like,

524
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:13,480
you know, a person of color, that would be problematic. But if

525
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,480
a white person looks like Rufio,
that's just weird. I don't he doesn't.

526
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,320
I don't think, but like,
just empirically, I do not think

527
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,920
he looks like him. No,
you know. I like, That's why

528
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,039
I asked, because I looked.
I went back and looked him like,

529
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:27,760
why was I thinking he doesn't?
But like for some reason in my head,

530
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,599
and I'll say, there, Grub, you're not wrong. There is

531
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,159
something weird about how Harry, the
way Harry just fucking looks. It has

532
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:37,920
nothing to do with looking like Rufio. But Rufio the Kingdom Heart? Who

533
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:43,199
is Rufio Hook Hook? Dante Bosker
like Captain Hook. He's Captain Hook.

534
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,679
No, no, no, he's
Rufeo. He's the leader of the Lost

535
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:49,679
Boys. It's like, you've never
seen anything from Disney. I've never seen

536
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,119
Hook. Have you never seen Dustin
Hoffman and Robin Williams and Bob Hoskins going

537
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:58,679
at it and are all very talented
actors. But Peter Peny Stielburg's Hook.

538
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:01,559
I remember Spielberg made that, Okay, I just remember it looked lame as

539
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:08,320
a kid, and the most arguably
engaging presence in Disney didn't make Cook.

540
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:21,760
Disney didn't make Cook. Hear you
Disney cough in silence? Could a bridged

541
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:30,599
version of his yellow No. No, I've heard that so many times now,

542
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:32,480
and it took me a few listens
to realize he layered in a couple

543
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:36,159
of his name is Mike, like
in the background, like a couple of

544
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:40,719
times there's death. Yeah yeah,
it's mixed. It's like completely produced.

545
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,800
You know who, Harry has time
on his hands, right, you know

546
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,320
who? Harry Osborne looks like he
looks like the actor Will Poulter because they

547
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,519
have that same like sure face,
good, Wow, you've got a good

548
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:58,559
will Poulter. Will Poulter is a
good poll Jan, I'm just showing my

549
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:04,920
acting chops here, folks face.
Yeah yeah, I could never get my

550
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,760
face to do that, but if
I asked it to, this is incredible.

551
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,639
Back, let go ahead, Just
like a dude who always looks like

552
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:15,960
he's surprised at something, right,
like, yeah, he's stuck like that.

553
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:17,400
What you got to do to get
a good will polter face, I

554
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,119
guess is uh and be a little
poulter Geist shouts out to the Poltergeist Gang,

555
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:27,360
that's what his fans call themselves.
Of course you got to play a

556
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,440
game of little face at the dinner
table. I think I know what this

557
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,800
is, but I want to hear
you describe it. I think this was

558
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,159
a bit from Workaholics where to.
Whoever has to cover the tip for the

559
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:43,760
bill or doesn't have to cover the
tip, is the person that can make

560
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:49,039
the smallest face by scrunching their face
the smallest Yeah, I feel like Adam

561
00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:51,760
Devine stuff like that. No,
no, no, it has to be

562
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,719
all face muscles. So so this
is gonna play great for audio listeners.

563
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,320
But let's take a quick round like
ba grub. Prepare. I'm gonna give

564
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,400
you a count to three to make
the smallest face you can that hurts your

565
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:07,800
face it one two three, small
face? Nothing changed, nothing changed,

566
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:14,280
right, okay, damn? Count
of three to make the smallest face you

567
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,760
can, right, one two three, small face? No, no,

568
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:25,440
nothing's moving there, all right,
all right, Jeff Beckel already one two

569
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:39,000
three, small face, really red
though even his voice got tiny. I

570
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,960
don't know if I can measure up
to that. That's a really small face.

571
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:50,639
All right, And here's my he's
condensing you got to pay the tip.

572
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:52,920
Fine, I know we cover the
tip. Al right, everyone at

573
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,039
home, here's your chance to do
a small face. Count of three,

574
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:00,840
everybody, everyone listening live in the
archive, make a small face, a

575
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:07,159
small as over in three two one
small face. Wow, that was really

576
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:09,880
good. That's really how small you
got. That's kind of alarming. Don't

577
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,280
don't do that anymore. Good work, everyone, Good work. Anyone else

578
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,039
got anything to bring up? Before
we get to the game of the week?

579
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,239
Will Poulter the are you guys are
getting paid? Kay? Is that

580
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,199
him from the meme you guys are
getting paid? Oh? Yeah? Yeah?

581
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,519
Yeah him as like a teen right, yeah, totally that's him.

582
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:30,119
Okay, all right, I just
want to keep my Polter straight. I've

583
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:37,320
been messing around with the Meta Quest
three and the uh the ar stuff is

584
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,280
pretty interesting, but it is definitely
in that VR tech demo realm of like

585
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,480
this is interesting for this particular free
thing that they put on here to show

586
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:47,960
off this technology, which I don't
know if you've seen it, but like

587
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:52,559
I went into a big, like
rectangular empty room and it's basically says,

588
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:55,480
here's where the walls are, and
the way you scan everything with it is

589
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,760
really easy actually setting up the boundaries
and all that, and with the pass

590
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,880
through it's full color now and everything
so you can see, like I can

591
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,760
walk around the house with it on. I'm going upstairs talked abound like it's

592
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,000
actually like way way better now.
So I went in that room did the

593
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,679
thing, and so it looks to
me like I'm just walking around like my

594
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,199
shoot room there, and then all
of a sudden you hear these noises and

595
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:22,559
the little spaceship crashes through the ceiling, real ceiling, and then it's sitting.

596
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:24,280
It flies around the room and it
lands, and it's really effective because

597
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,760
I'm walking around the room and I
actually, like at one point was walking

598
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,440
and then I tried to like not
hit it with my foot and I was

599
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,880
like, wait, that's not that's
that's a work in spaceship. That's not

600
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:37,960
that's not there. And then all
these like little like like Bug Triple Triple,

601
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:43,679
the Star Trek things, they start
like headbutting the walls and breaking in.

602
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:49,199
And so as your actual walls and
ceilings start getting like broken, you

603
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,079
see that your room is in.
It's like on an alien planet, and

604
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:57,519
so and your walls keep getting knocked
away as you're shooting at them and stuff.

605
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,599
So by the end you're basically like
you see your floor, but it's

606
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:06,440
just like you're standing on like Mars
or something. And it's actually super effective.

607
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,599
I mean, I don't know how
many games are going to utilize this.

608
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:13,039
It feels like, you know,
Astro's playroom utilizing a bunch of weird

609
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:15,679
controller stuff then nothing else ever,
will you know? Sure? But does

610
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:21,199
does the the walls that are breaking
line up kind of pretty close to your

611
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,960
real world walls exactly? Yeah?
Okay, See that's that's encouraging because that

612
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,239
means they really can line up all
these digital things in the world and you

613
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,000
probably can do a lot with that. But I'm like want people to like

614
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:36,639
go in and like mod out like
Conan O'Brien from Death Stranding and just have

615
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,760
him be like a virtual assistant with
this thing you can have around your house

616
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,400
or whatever stuff like that. That's
that's where I want this to go.

617
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:45,000
And I hope the Medicalist three can
like have that sort of ecosystem where people

618
00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:49,840
are just doing crazy stuff with it. If I have to rely on Facebook

619
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,559
to support it, that's what I'm
worried about. I don't know if you

620
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,239
do anymore, Well, you don't
have to sign into Facebook for Facebook owns

621
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,679
oculus, Oh of course, Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah,

622
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,519
there is some smart stuff'm seeing now
where it's like there's a boxing game called

623
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:04,400
Thriller The Fight. It's kind of
like a cartoony you know, like punch

624
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,159
out style boxing game, which I
always wanted to try more. But when

625
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,320
you are swinging punches, even if
you set up a boundary exactly where you

626
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,079
want it, it's not a good
feeling to to swing by, Like it's

627
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:17,320
just not fun to play. But
with the pass through, like ar thing,

628
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,639
it just looks like the guys are
in your room and so it's so

629
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,039
much easier to avoid you know,
the walls and all the stuff on your

630
00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:30,119
floor or whatever. It's it's kind
of cool. How is it Telerope Boxer,

631
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,760
Like that's a virtual boy reference Hot
hot reference? Yeah, yes,

632
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,559
Dan, how good? Good is
it about? Like tracking your hand placement

633
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,920
and like how tactile is it or
is it just kind of like tracking like

634
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:46,280
your hands when you're when you're holding
like the controllers. It's pretty much the

635
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,199
same as like the previous quests,
Like it's it's pretty one to one.

636
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,800
Yeah, it works really well.
There's cool things where it's like like the

637
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:57,239
uh I never did much of the
hand tracking stuff without the controllers on previous

638
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,719
quests, but I did it here
and it's cool because like your menu where

639
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,119
you launch your library or settings or
anything like that. It just shows up

640
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,079
like a screen that's floating. It
looks like it's like as big as like

641
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:10,159
a big iPad, and it's floating
in space, and you can just like

642
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:13,679
walk through your actual room and just
like you grab it, you bring it

643
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:15,559
over here. Okay, I'm tapping
this. I'm watching this game like it's

644
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,800
in terms of the quality of life, like just wearing it and feeling like

645
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,760
you're still kind of part of the
real world and walking around your house.

646
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:25,119
It's kind of handy, like you
can. It's it's weird because it's using

647
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:29,000
several different cameras and stitching them together, so like if you're looking at a

648
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:30,519
text or something, or if you
need to use your phone, it's kind

649
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:32,800
of like, well, okay,
you got to be dead center otherwise it

650
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,199
starts kind of wharping. But it's
the pass through is a million times better.

651
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:42,159
Say that. In terms of the
game stuff and everything still VR games,

652
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,360
you know, there weren't like a
lot of like killer apps or anything

653
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,920
like that. I played a mini
golf game. It was pretty fun.

654
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,000
There's I Expect you to die three. I did like a Less Mills body

655
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:52,159
combat like all this shit that you
know, it's it feels like VR games

656
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:55,880
have always been. But I am
going to play a half live Alex now.

657
00:44:57,119 --> 00:45:00,360
Oh cool, Yeah, I'm excited
to hear about that. Yeah.

658
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:06,800
I was thinking with its sounding like
the pass through is exponentially better than it's

659
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,960
been, and with it tracking your
hands really well, there has to be

660
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:16,119
some type of like good like I
don't know, exercise program or boxing program

661
00:45:16,159 --> 00:45:21,000
to like really help you work on
your form or whatever, because I think

662
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,119
some of my biggest problems with like
VR boxing games in the past or whatever

663
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,840
similar to that is like you're kind
of just whaling right, and then you're

664
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,800
just building a bad muscle memory versus
like a VR game kind of like not

665
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,760
doing it strictly, but kind of
like really enforcing the form aspect of it,

666
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:40,559
kind of like how ring fit.
You know, you really have to

667
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,760
play with the pilates ring really well
versus just squeezing it like a like a

668
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,920
weirdo. Yeah. Yeah, I
don't think we're there yet. Like I

669
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,719
played the Body Combat thing and it's
just every VR it's just things flying at

670
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,719
you and you punching it and then
just canned response to everything. I think

671
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,880
it's it's not what most people want
right, like, oh you want it?

672
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:05,239
Yeah, I think it got close
to body tracking. It's probably pretty

673
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,719
good at that stuff, but it's
like that's a lot of extra work and

674
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,400
people just want to punch the thing
I think is what they think. We

675
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,280
have to add shock pads to it. So yeah, we can write something

676
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,360
wrong. The best for the genesis
that you can feel every punch in Mortal

677
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,559
Kombat. That's right, bactivator?
Yeah, and Res. What's the one

678
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:27,599
for RES? The trans media vibrator
or something like that. Yeah, yeah,

679
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,840
yep, that's that was a thing, right that that was a thing

680
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,440
something like that. Why something?
Because they want you to feel the music.

681
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:37,199
Okay, I don't know. You
have to asked the Reds freaks.

682
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,119
I'm not a RES guy, shouts
out. You and I have a lot

683
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:44,800
of similar good opinions, I think. So we're definitely right about RES.

684
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,760
Yes, and no one will with
us. Yes, and many things.

685
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:52,559
Yes, absolutely greed something in medias. I'll find the joke. I'll come

686
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:57,880
back to it. Uh huh.
Played a little metal your solid collection it

687
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,719
Uh, it's those games with some
little bonus is some music player and some

688
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:06,519
books you can zoom in on and
scroll between it's uh, it's I'm glad.

689
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:10,480
I'm glad they're out there, and
that's it's available for people who were

690
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:13,280
like just coming to it now and
go like, okay, where do I

691
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,079
get these games? Oh, you're
fucked until this for this is this is

692
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:19,880
not for you though, because you
have no No, I've played them a

693
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,119
million times. And also I would
play like on shoot hardware on a CRT,

694
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,320
you know, like so yeah,
no, I'm glad it exists if

695
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,519
it means middle Gear gets to you
know, get to more people. But

696
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,559
it's it's like three D all Stars
in a way where it's like, yeah,

697
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:35,760
okay, these are all here.
Now it's got a little bit more

698
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,119
bonus stuff and that I didn't know
it was going to have, like VR

699
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:42,119
missions and the digital graphic novel and
stuff like that. So like it is

700
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:46,159
a little more robust than I expected, but it's it's those games easier to

701
00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:50,760
play now. Tan Which games are
included in the collection? One? Two,

702
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,239
three VR missions, Metal Gear and
middle Gear two, the MSX games

703
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,559
and Snakes Revenge. Weirdly, that's
how you can tell this is not a

704
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,239
good Gama project. This is an
economy project. Yes, it's been a

705
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,239
minute since I've played through three I
played for it a year or two ago.

706
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:12,559
It's still awesome. Okay, played
an hour of the three DS and

707
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:15,360
that's all I've ever played. I
know, I know, I know I

708
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,840
need to play them, and I
want to find some time. I'll do

709
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,119
it. I could. Yeah,
this makes me just want to play five

710
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:30,039
again. Five five five five rules
that whole thing again, jam, Like,

711
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,079
what are you doing? I bought
it for five bucks the other day

712
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:37,400
on Steam, so it's like,
well, this is Any time with this

713
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,800
is great. Just send attach a
parachute to some dude. That was fine.

714
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,119
I enjoyed that game. Game man. Any any time you give me

715
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:50,559
a rocket punch, I'll love it. Just every game should have a rocket

716
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:53,360
punch. Any game where you shoot
a thing and then you control it,

717
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,440
Like remember like Heavenly Sword, you
could shoot the arrows and then like six

718
00:48:57,519 --> 00:49:04,280
axis. Yes like you yeah,
you're right, Yeah, I love I

719
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:09,840
love Heavenly Sword. I'm proud of
you. Finally, it's pretty good.

720
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:15,400
Feel free where Yeah, what's the
last time that gimmick has popped up?

721
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:22,159
Other than like gear stranglehold? You
could you can make the recently that had

722
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:27,519
the Patriot arrow from Robin Hood Men
and Tights. Oh that thank you for

723
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:30,800
bringing up You're welcome. Absolutely God, how many times I watch that movie

724
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,320
on HBO and I was like,
oh, we're probably neck and neck,

725
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,400
but folks are saying Assassin's Creed.
Of course it's Assassin. Yeah, that's

726
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:43,679
what I'm definitely thinking, Assassin's Creed. Like where Yeah, I don't know.

727
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:47,000
All right, folks, Well it's
time to get to the game of

728
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:52,039
the week and the game. Let
me try and fix this dogs a real

729
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:58,519
quick The Game of the Week,
Super Mario Brothers, Wonder Yo, Holy

730
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,760
Ship. Okay, I just have
one one quick thing to say and then

731
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,760
I'll let you Mario freaks take over
this. There's some levels here. It's

732
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,440
hard. The challenge levels little diffy, A little diffy. Yeah, that

733
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:13,559
second one, you want to get
everything. I think it's harder to find

734
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,559
everything, and that's by design,
you know. I haven't found a platform

735
00:50:15,639 --> 00:50:21,880
itself to be super hard. Is
mostly the challenge level with the uh the

736
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,360
wall jump badge where you like jump
up vertically. I love that ship.

737
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,360
Yeah, it's the one with like
the spinning platforms. It's very early on

738
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,800
and I was just stuck for the
longest time. Yeah, it's keep doing

739
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:37,400
it with someone else too. Yeah, Like especially like that first the challenge

740
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:42,239
with the running of the hippo thing
or whatever, the hobos. Yeah,

741
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,039
there was two other people playing.
There was a lava level in like World

742
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:47,679
six that I was doing yesterday,
which by the way, I was in

743
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,760
like a Canadian airport for six hours
playing this the entire time yesterday and just

744
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,960
having a blast. And uh there's
it's one where there's like this platform that

745
00:50:57,039 --> 00:50:59,599
keeps going in and out of the
lava and it's just easy to die.

746
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,440
That's right now. Yeah. Yeah, And I was playing like other random

747
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,880
people were in there and we all
kept dying, but then one would be

748
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,800
a live to save. So like
we helped each other through that level.

749
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,199
Like I wasn't playing multiplayer traditionally,
but the idea of like, wow,

750
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,199
we're all playing this level right now
and helping each other out and we're hitting

751
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:19,719
the thing to like thank each other
every time incredible. It's like Journey.

752
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:21,519
Yeah, you know, it's like, oh, I don't know who these

753
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:24,199
people are, so we are helping
each other out. It really is a

754
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,000
strand game, Like that's not even
a Jeff, Yeah, it is an

755
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:32,440
actual four shoot strand game. It's
wild, and it's wild how well it

756
00:51:32,519 --> 00:51:37,280
works. It's so much fun to
make friends in the moment. Yeah from

757
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,400
Nintendo, Like, yeah, like
I'll have a buddy. Like sometimes people

758
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,880
will be like not recognizing that you're
in trouble and needing help. That's very

759
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,840
rare. Most of the time,
it's like someone's like, oh, I

760
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,480
was just doing my own thing,
but now I see the one person's a

761
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,280
ghost, I'm gonna go there and
rescue them and see that hard thing.

762
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:52,280
Yeah, yeah, you get the
hard And sometimes it's like, well,

763
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,119
I just rescued you. We're best
friends. Now let's go through the rest

764
00:51:55,159 --> 00:51:58,960
of this level together. And that
was happening with me on the Lava level

765
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,679
where we were just like having each
other's backs and I'd like to like go

766
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,119
through it and try to beat it
on my own, but I'm like,

767
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:07,239
I haven't turned that off because it's
it's kind of special. Makes the game

768
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,800
feel more alive to have these moments
where suddenly we're helping each other out and

769
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,400
we are rescuing each other throughout the
rest of other things. So yeah,

770
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,559
or somebody left to standing in a
place where it's like oh shit, I

771
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:19,239
didn't know you get up there.
Like, that's super helpful. I played

772
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,199
a lot of it on the plane
with no Wi Fi and it turned out

773
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,760
just an amazing fucking Mario game anyway. But then when I got to the

774
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,320
airport lounge and I got connected,
I was like, Oh, this is

775
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,599
actually I like this a lot better. This is this is awesome. I

776
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:35,360
mean us playing that that multiplayer mode, the friend mode, it works pretty

777
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,280
much the same way stuff. You
can initiate races and stuff. But that

778
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:43,119
was a really cool way to sort
of discover the early parts of that game

779
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:45,039
where it's like, hey, yeah, you could do this, and hey

780
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:47,400
I found this thing and we're talking
it out. But like once that that

781
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:51,559
the voice the voices go away,
a lot of that stuff remains. Like

782
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:57,039
you said, like there are levels
specifically about finding hidden stuff, and it's

783
00:52:57,079 --> 00:53:00,239
like it's just a couple It's like
a big room and you're gonna have try

784
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,639
to do a couple of tricks with
the platforming or find a hidden block or

785
00:53:02,639 --> 00:53:07,760
something or used to power ups in
a special way, and having like three

786
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,800
other people or four other people mess
around and try to do that simultaneously.

787
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,800
And you could like you can't really
see exactly what they're doing, but you

788
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,320
could see what power up they have. And then they put a standy down,

789
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:20,719
like maybe where you're supposed to be, like, okay, they're trying

790
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,760
to tell me something. You go
stand over there and you look around,

791
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,239
you think, and usually it clicks
in the place. And I found that

792
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,559
a really cool way to experience those
levels as well. It doesn't feel like

793
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:31,320
cheating. It just feels like playground
talk coming into the game in a really

794
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:37,400
excellent way. It feels like the
next evolution of Mario to me, And

795
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:42,079
like the amount of ideas per square
inch in this game is just like nonstock,

796
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:45,039
Like the new enemies, the ability
to just kind of swap between all

797
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:49,360
these characters on the fly, like
there are just so many new elements here

798
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,000
that I'm like this, there's a
new voice actor. You know. This

799
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:53,679
feels like kind of a turning point
for Mario in a really cool way.

800
00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:58,119
I thought the fireworks dudes you can
carry around and they shoot the fireworks,

801
00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:01,719
the mummies where you got to pull
theirs should uh, there's bullet built torpedo

802
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:07,480
ted. Now we got missile Meg. We got Missile Meg. Big fan

803
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:10,719
of that, Yes, the guys
would that have their like tail singing down

804
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,400
where you could swing on them and
stuff the ground that drops that puts a

805
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,760
little ball out and then yeah,
yeah, not good feeling stuff. A

806
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,920
huge recondend. Yeah, go ahead, Dan, oh, I was just

807
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,320
gonna say a huge recommendation. Uh. I brought the SMEs controller for the

808
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:28,199
switch, uh and I played with
that this whole weekend. It that dpad

809
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,440
is really solid and there's no drawback. I mean, the only thing is

810
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,480
like there are something you could do
like this or motion, you know for

811
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,639
some of those things. I never
used the motion anyway, So if you

812
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:40,000
don't care about that, it is
like an ideal controller for this game.

813
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,159
Okay, that's that sounds good,
Just to take a just like pigs the

814
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,320
bag zoom out a little bit.
I think this game, you know,

815
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,880
it's funny because I've been playing a
lot with my kid and we actually Stacey

816
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,199
has been playing it too. Oh
cool. She's a big like Alice in

817
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:58,960
Wonderland person. And I do think
like the wonder part is like maybe a

818
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,119
bit of like, hey, drugs
are all right, aren't they? Kind

819
00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:05,119
of thing about this game. It's
always been implied with Mario, but Oh

820
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:10,360
yeah, it's a carpenter plumber totally. She said something that kind of stuck

821
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,159
with me where it was like she's
like, this is like someone else like

822
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,239
made this game, that's not Nintendo
trying to do it, Like and obviously

823
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,199
we know that's not true, but
I understand her outside perspective of like it's

824
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:29,519
so different and so but still very
much the same hallmarks and all the same

825
00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:35,719
you know feeling that you get when
you play a side scrolling Mario platform.

826
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:42,000
Or it's something about the injection of
new Blood into this that is like really

827
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:49,079
resonating in a way that I I
it is so expertly crafted, I cannot

828
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,920
like, Man, this is feels
right, It feels good. Every new

829
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,599
idea is not like just slapped together, it's refine. Yeah, it's just

830
00:55:57,039 --> 00:56:00,719
there's joy in this that was nowhere
in that new series. Oh yeah,

831
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,239
yeah, I thought this when we
were playing this on UPF last week.

832
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,400
But like, this puts any and
all of those new Super Mario Brothers games

833
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:15,719
absolute shame. Liked to think about
now, and I like, I liked

834
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,440
playing that the we one. I
think it's the best. I really enjoyed

835
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,880
playing that game. When I think
back on it now I get sad.

836
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:28,039
It's that's a bummer. When you
opened up you know, it's like Sonic

837
00:56:28,119 --> 00:56:31,960
Superstars when you open up Ascension and
all these things in Zelda, it's like

838
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:37,400
going back to like Breath of the
Wild. Is now this like shackled experience?

839
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:42,480
Right? Yeah? It really is
amazing that, like it is just

840
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:47,159
so fresh and so so like almost
I don't want to say like risky,

841
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:52,960
but just like a lot of just
wild liberties that I just take you see,

842
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:57,960
Yeah, like damn and you you
mentioned it's it's feels so fresh.

843
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,840
And obviously a lot of that comes
from them like opening U up to a

844
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,000
bunch of the young people that work
in Nintendo and saying, just give us

845
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:07,159
your ideas. Everyone's free to come
here and contribute to it. But it's

846
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:12,480
so continued to contiguous about who's making
this game, these games. Five people

847
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:15,679
worked on Super Mario Brothers. Four
of them worked on this game. Four

848
00:57:15,679 --> 00:57:20,840
of those five people that worked on
Super Mario Brothers forty fucking years the original

849
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,400
one. Yes, super Mario Brothers, four of them worked on this.

850
00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:28,599
Of those five, that's how can
I leave that long? What do they

851
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,920
do today? I was, I
was so happy playing Mario Wonder twenty like

852
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:35,480
when they did it. It's crazy
how many things, just from your entire

853
00:57:35,519 --> 00:57:38,199
life, your entire childhood, things
that you've loved, have maintained their relevancy

854
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,239
and level of quality the way Mario
has and every other series you know goes

855
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,159
away, comes back. There's peaks, there's valleys. The TV shows get

856
00:57:45,239 --> 00:57:49,000
canceled, movie series and they have
their ups and downs and stuff like that.

857
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,119
Mario, for my entire fucking life, since I was four and played

858
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:55,280
the first one, every single one
of those games has just been I would

859
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,840
die for the Star Wars prequels to
be as good as the new Super Mario

860
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,559
Brothers games. That would be excuse
me, they are that Sunshine was a

861
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:07,440
game, was a game, is
on fantastic game. No one's like,

862
00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:10,440
no one's forgetting about that. It's
one of the weaker ones, but it

863
00:58:10,519 --> 00:58:14,440
is the best platformer of that generation, almost like it's up there, it's

864
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:19,239
it's it's an incredible game. Still, I would Delphino Island music is in

865
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,440
this game that made me so goddamn
happy. It's just straight up just to

866
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,719
shoot track. It's like not even
like a take on it's just like this

867
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,840
is just Delphino Island. I get
your point, Dan, I take offence

868
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,719
with like it's infallible, Like,
uh, I'm not saying it's infallible straight

869
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,440
up said a billion times that,
like there are levels that are just like

870
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,119
the Patinko thing, the the raft
lily Pad level, Like there's no,

871
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:42,679
no, not not infallible, but
sunshine. I'm I'm talking about the lineage

872
00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:46,599
of like Mario games I think,
but like if you like track the quality

873
00:58:46,679 --> 00:58:50,519
level like and then and then you
do that thing where you have like a

874
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:55,039
straight line the line average it out. That's only Yeah, it's least like

875
00:58:55,159 --> 00:58:59,599
oh, no one, no one, No serious person would try and argue

876
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:02,960
that it's like a bad season from
Wing BRETX. It's it's amazing. It's

877
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:07,599
a it's amazing. The the you
know, like the legacy of it is

878
00:59:07,039 --> 00:59:10,440
untouchable for sure. Yeah, I'm
with you because I was the first thing

879
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,000
that popped up to my mind when
you brought that up. Dan was like,

880
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:19,719
oh, tony Hawk, but then
there are oh hard and went away.

881
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:22,559
Yeah. First, Skater five is
one of the worst things that's ever

882
00:59:22,599 --> 00:59:28,440
happened to me. It's unbelievable.
Project eight is it hurts me inside no

883
00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:30,679
Project eight, I like, grub
have you opened your skateboard for Blake Love

884
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:36,840
tomorrow? Huh? Very funny.
If you make me play a motion control

885
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,840
game, I'm gonna go insane.
Actually, so okay, what if it

886
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:44,760
was Tony Hawk in those boxes?
That makes it all box? Oh?

887
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:51,119
By the way, Dan, Stephanie
Grubb is pretty upset with you. Why

888
00:59:51,679 --> 00:59:53,440
because you're like, hey, this
is gonna take twenty minutes. And my

889
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,599
my mother in law was here and
like they were taking a look at like

890
00:59:55,599 --> 00:59:59,800
the email together getting the stuff ready, and they were both like, what

891
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,400
is this guy on? What is
he talking about? This thing that he

892
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,480
says to do would not will network. I have no idea what it is.

893
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:08,000
I'm not allowed to go in the
wandering room for think. I made

894
01:00:08,119 --> 01:00:15,320
some assumptions about technology, clothing,
technology that I don't know if I know

895
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,760
what? Can they know that?
They know that you made some assumptions about

896
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,400
things that just don't work that way, And so they spent like an hour

897
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:29,320
trying to come up with some new
solution for what you want. I'll like

898
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,239
go on five her and get someone
else. Now they're determined to like get

899
01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:36,320
it right she's she's getting it there. But yeah, like, hey,

900
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,639
this guy's an idiot. I'm like, I know, I don't know how

901
01:00:38,679 --> 01:00:45,119
clothes work. Christ So that's gonna
be Blake Club on Wednesday, everybody,

902
01:00:45,159 --> 01:00:46,239
if you want to tune in for
that, I have no idea what you

903
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:51,519
can desn to, like maybe clean
up my beard a little bit on the

904
01:00:51,559 --> 01:00:54,039
side for something. So oh boy, okay, oh oh, if you

905
01:00:54,079 --> 01:00:57,719
want to go full gimmick, yeah
yeah, all right, we'll see what

906
01:00:57,719 --> 01:01:01,239
happens. All right, super others
wonder it does the thing, and it

907
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:06,760
was very pure to watch your reaction
Dan to like every little thing. But

908
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,400
then I continue to have that reaction
every little world, and especially in the

909
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,599
Overworld. You know, it's like
normally there's nothing to do in that map,

910
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:16,400
right, but there's we found that
little bit for the series. They

911
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,239
had the best overworld of all time
in Super Mario World, like yeah,

912
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,320
yeah, but like now, like
you're encouraged to explore through there you meet

913
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:29,440
some little goofy goobers. As as
you journey. They love the goobers.

914
01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:31,039
They're like, you're going through the
desert and here's like a Marise you know,

915
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,000
whole level. You know, Oh, here's a tiny little puzzle in

916
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,199
the in the desert that like,
oh, I press these things and this

917
01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:40,760
happened, like it's it's so the
game has so much personality and joy just

918
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:45,119
seeping out of every bore. I
like the flowers too. I like that

919
01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:51,519
they talk. They're kind of funny. They don't get cringe or whatever the

920
01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:52,920
kids say like never do. It's
just kind of like cute and fun.

921
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:58,920
They got like I want to be
friendly with that flag is Dane. Uh,

922
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,719
someone in my fan only has a
request. Oh, I don't know

923
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:07,199
what it is about the flowers and
they're talking, but like my kid thinks

924
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:13,239
you are the flowers, like you
you there's something about the flowers. They

925
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,559
just say like well I've been here
for a while like stuff like that.

926
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:21,639
I always say that, Yeah,
I don't know why he he just is

927
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:27,519
like Dan has to be the flowers. And I interpret next next Mario moviegoers,

928
01:02:27,559 --> 01:02:30,320
Well sure, but the way I
interpreted his his statement right, his

929
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,559
sort of request if you will,
is that I just want to see you

930
01:02:34,639 --> 01:02:37,639
do voices of those flowers, Like
if we could just like, have you

931
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:40,000
do a couple of voiceovers and we'll
mak them up. How about we do

932
01:02:40,039 --> 01:02:45,519
this. We have we have Sean
take this part and clip this out,

933
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:50,079
and then we take some silent,
muted footage of the flowers just clapping their

934
01:02:50,119 --> 01:02:53,199
gum. Sure, Dan, you
just add let me throw. Okay,

935
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:58,920
n having an existential crisis. I
know what. You need a clean take,

936
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,039
You need a clean everyone. Shut
the fuck up. I'm having an

937
01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:07,320
existential crisis. That's good. I
have to poop. Oh okay, hold

938
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:13,480
do it again. I have to
poop. Tell them to make a small

939
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:19,960
face. Oh, there's so much
poop. Could you do one without poop?

940
01:03:20,039 --> 01:03:27,280
Like, oh uh, look at
all this pe that'll be good for

941
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,800
the water levels. With the red
flowers? Why are they so angry?

942
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:35,880
Though? Yeah? Is it is? It is there like mood rings.

943
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,480
What do you think about it?
Like different color flowers behave differently? Yeah,

944
01:03:38,519 --> 01:03:44,000
yeah, what's the conflict? Yeah? I don't know about it much

945
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:46,800
like that at the end of every
level, that postcard thing. It reminds

946
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,960
me of like when you get off
a fun roller coaster ride and you see

947
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,320
the picture. I just thought I
was having, you know, jumping like

948
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,199
it's what a cool little thing.
I've been trying to find a place where

949
01:03:55,239 --> 01:03:58,559
it actually like stores those, but
I don't think it does. Yeah,

950
01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:01,280
I'm not sure. I've been I've
been started. I started the snapping shots

951
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,079
of it when they show it to
me so I can like at least have

952
01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:05,960
that saved. And if they don't
show it to me later, I wind

953
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:11,440
up getting angry because sometimes they'll take
a bad photo that I'll replay the level

954
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,480
trying to get a better photo,
not knowing when it gets taken. I'm

955
01:04:15,519 --> 01:04:16,360
like, all right, that's a
better one. I'm fine with that.

956
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:23,039
Okay, the uh, how you
guys feeling about one hundred percent in this

957
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:26,800
game, I'm going to do it
one percent. I'm doing that already worked

958
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,360
on I saw credits yesterday. I'm
already working on all the wonder seeds and

959
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:36,480
like ten coins top of the flagpole
yep, top of the flag Yeah.

960
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:39,920
Yeah. If you look at the
if you go into the courses thing,

961
01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:43,800
it's very faint. There's like a
little check there's a green check mark background

962
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,360
behind the coins, and there's like
a flagpole icon there that if you don't

963
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,960
have the check mark on each level, you might even be missing like a

964
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,599
secret exit. Like there's it tells
you right there if you've done everything on

965
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:56,000
the level though. Oh that's cool. I like that. I love like

966
01:04:56,039 --> 01:04:59,719
the completionist in all of us.
That's very satisfying. And you can also

967
01:04:59,719 --> 01:05:02,039
put on a sensor badge that will
just kind of tell you when you're close

968
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:05,920
to something. Oh cool. I
like, yeah, I don't want this

969
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,639
ruin for me, so I won't
ask if you if you want to,

970
01:05:10,639 --> 01:05:12,679
just like put it out there and
tell us not to Like, I just

971
01:05:12,679 --> 01:05:15,800
hope that, like, you can
have more than one badge at some point.

972
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,639
Groomble, grumble, groomble. Yeah. Cool, cool, cool cool.

973
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,239
The vine one, the one where
you bind to the walls, that's

974
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,119
great. The one where you get
that special little extra jump at the end,

975
01:05:30,199 --> 01:05:32,559
that's great. There's some I just
haven't really used at all, but

976
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,519
yeah, the mobility ones where you
jump kind of high and do like a

977
01:05:35,639 --> 01:05:41,360
Yoshi flutter jump type thing. Yeah, go ahead. I'm just gonna say,

978
01:05:41,639 --> 01:05:44,280
if we do the Mario Grand Prix, we should have a couple of

979
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:47,920
rules in there, sort of like
a hockey penalty box where like you're do

980
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:53,119
you have to use a certain badge
if you'd like get something like untoured in

981
01:05:53,159 --> 01:05:55,679
one of the other levels, the
invisibility badge, so you can't see yourself

982
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,559
something like that. Yeah, every
like yeah, something like or it could

983
01:05:58,599 --> 01:06:01,079
be random or whatever, so someone
wins while using the invisibility one like that'd

984
01:06:01,119 --> 01:06:03,039
be really hype or something like that. I don't know. I mean you

985
01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:09,159
could do we could do somewhere there's
the Prince's Choice thing or through you know,

986
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:14,719
I like that. How backl or
how's the experience been playing with us

987
01:06:15,079 --> 01:06:18,039
with with with the family, because
I know, like the ghost mode that

988
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:23,480
we've explored in UPF and like we've
talked about, is very different than actually

989
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,079
playing with shoot people. Yeah,
you mean, like, how is it

990
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:30,360
playing with bad gamers? Yeah?
Sure, I mean I didn't want to

991
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:34,519
know they're they're no, they're fine. It's not it's not it's not easy.

992
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:41,679
It results in a lot of like
frustration. We d and I almost

993
01:06:41,679 --> 01:06:45,840
like switch back and forth on levels
now because it's you know, I just

994
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,239
don't want I just don't want to
deterar my relationship with art, with my

995
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:53,360
son, you know, I don't
want this to be the reason we don't

996
01:06:53,559 --> 01:06:57,199
speak to each other. So,
uh, no, you're joking, but

997
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,800
it's it's I guess there's there's been
some ship, Like, yeah, there's

998
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:06,679
tears, tears of shed you know, it's it's hard these games. That's

999
01:07:06,679 --> 01:07:12,679
the one thing that you just can't
like shoehorn into these games. They just

1000
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:18,920
cannot work the way you wish they
could. As the multiplayer side scroller,

1001
01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:21,480
what I was like, what I
would do is, like you got the

1002
01:07:21,519 --> 01:07:27,440
badge system, just create a badge
for bad little kids. I mean,

1003
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,159
Yoshi and Navis want to play as
Yoshi. They want to play as Princess

1004
01:07:31,159 --> 01:07:36,280
Peter, and she she doesn't have
any of that stuff. Uh, he

1005
01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:43,000
can't use any of the power.
The fucking get better at him. Okay,

1006
01:07:44,039 --> 01:07:46,400
I'll explain these criticisms of the rest
to them and say this comes from

1007
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:53,559
doctor dan Rykert and will respect that. Of course this they I'm glad the

1008
01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:56,519
game works the way it does for
me. In terms of it being like

1009
01:07:56,559 --> 01:08:00,639
a family game, it's not.
It's not that really, it's not very

1010
01:08:00,639 --> 01:08:03,320
good at being that it has a
lot of it's cumbersome and it's not really

1011
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:08,440
a great time to play with like
varying skill levels, local multiplayer and stuff

1012
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,519
like that. Yeah, they also
do an interesting thing right where like they

1013
01:08:12,599 --> 01:08:16,319
trade the crown, right where like
the crown is the one who decides where

1014
01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:19,600
the wind where the camera goes right, yes, yes, yeah, And

1015
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,600
like if you I've noticed then maybe
this is anecdotal. I don't know,

1016
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,640
but I feel like if you are
not wearing the crown and you get top

1017
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,960
of the flag pole, you can
like win the crown. I think that

1018
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,880
three World three D World did that, or if you're a top tag,

1019
01:08:35,079 --> 01:08:39,199
which is like if there was you
know, and that is also a bit

1020
01:08:39,239 --> 01:08:42,399
counter two to like playing with someone
who's like never going to hit the flag

1021
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:47,520
pole, just saying like it's not
a jump, it's not a it's not

1022
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,439
it's just not perfect. Uh And
and I don't think there is a way

1023
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:56,880
to make it perfect. It's just
that part of the game where you like

1024
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,720
want it to be this family thing, like unfortunately, I just don't think

1025
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,439
it can wear that. I wish
there was just a badge you could apply

1026
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,960
to any of the characters that just
said, hey, this is a kid

1027
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:09,960
playing and do as close as you
can to what you do with Mario Kart

1028
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,039
eight with the auto steer in the
auto game, right, and it's like,

1029
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,560
you know they're about to run into
the lava. Maybe stop them from

1030
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,800
running into the lava. Like I
think Nintendo's probably good enough to at this

1031
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:24,359
point of understanding how the game should
be played to maybe stop that from happening.

1032
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:28,199
Now it's that would It's not going
to be as easy as Mario Kart.

1033
01:09:28,239 --> 01:09:30,279
That is going to be more complicated, but some I mean, they

1034
01:09:30,279 --> 01:09:32,600
have some badges that kind of do
some of that stuff just goes all the

1035
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,720
way full full bumper bowling mode for
kids, that's what I want. Yeah,

1036
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,359
or maybe just kids shouldn't play Mario. Yeah, I mean it's not

1037
01:09:40,399 --> 01:09:42,439
for kids, right, leave it, Leave it for us. Come on,

1038
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,760
ye makes we've earned this. We've
earned this. That makes sense.

1039
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,960
No, you're coming. Yeah,
you're right because when we were introduced to

1040
01:09:48,199 --> 01:09:51,159
to Mario, there was nothing but
forty year olds playing in I feel like

1041
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,319
cool, right, we were smoking
and watching R rated movies. Yeah,

1042
01:09:58,359 --> 01:10:04,399
we're all drinking beer jaws, Yes, yes, exactly. But you guys

1043
01:10:04,399 --> 01:10:08,760
gotta admit though, for Jeff and
Jeff here, isn't it so much better

1044
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,199
that they've got rid of all of
the collision from new Super Mario Brothers.

1045
01:10:12,319 --> 01:10:15,680
Yeah, yeah, I guess I
should plays Yoshi and I have them right

1046
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:20,000
on my back because I would care. I could carry them through levels approach

1047
01:10:20,199 --> 01:10:23,640
and I haven't seen that, and
I do that. So I guess maybe

1048
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,560
if I plays Yoshi, one of
them can get on my back. You're

1049
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,680
the problem. Maybe I'm the problem. Yeah, there, this is where

1050
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:35,439
I'm at with it. I listen. I'm not trying to influence my kids.

1051
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,600
They can like what they like.
But they are more Sonic fans than

1052
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,359
they are Mario fans. At the
moment. I don't think it's gonna last,

1053
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,159
but they Addie comes home and she's
like, Okay, what am I

1054
01:10:45,159 --> 01:10:47,319
gonna play? And I don't say
anything, and she says Mario and she

1055
01:10:47,359 --> 01:10:49,239
wants to play the new Mario.
I'm like, great, great, and

1056
01:10:49,279 --> 01:10:53,000
she plays it and I was like, there's a couple levels that she could

1057
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,359
play as a four year old.
Most of them are too there's too much

1058
01:10:56,399 --> 01:11:00,279
going on or they're too complicated and
uh. And so she bounced off pretty

1059
01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:03,800
quick and she's gone back to Sonic
and I'm like, that's that's not great

1060
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,279
for me, someone who wants to
have as little Sonic as my home as

1061
01:11:06,279 --> 01:11:11,119
possible. It's gonna be an issue. So yeah, I Hey, the

1062
01:11:11,159 --> 01:11:14,840
game is great, and I wouldn't
actually change much about it. I just

1063
01:11:15,119 --> 01:11:17,760
I'm hopeful that my kids will come
back to it later maybe and play it

1064
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,520
thing, because it's not gonna work
for them. Now. I want you

1065
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:25,039
to keep something in mind as you
play it. I want to add a

1066
01:11:25,079 --> 01:11:29,560
category at to the Game of the
Year, which is best wonderflower effect fantastic.

1067
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,000
So add that to the If you
see something where it's like, oh

1068
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,920
man, this thing where suddenly I'm
walking on the background or whatever, throw

1069
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:39,479
that in there. Because one of
the early ones, it's when they it

1070
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:45,239
turned into a freaking isometric game.
Yeah, threw me and Luigi. Yeah,

1071
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:50,960
it's just so smart. I just
think it's yeah, unbelievable. It's

1072
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,000
one of those like they can't keep
getting away with this, but I'm happy

1073
01:11:55,039 --> 01:11:59,199
to let them keep getting away with
this. Yeah, I'm afraid of finishing

1074
01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:01,279
it because I'm having such good time
with it, taking my time. It's

1075
01:12:01,399 --> 01:12:04,399
yea without a doubt. Uh.
In the conversation for best two D Mario

1076
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:10,880
game, Yeah, I agree.
I mean, mane just two D platforming.

1077
01:12:11,039 --> 01:12:15,159
We don't weird distinctions. A serious
question, is this a Mario?

1078
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,880
I know you're bullshit, it's not
it's not it's not. Okay, fine,

1079
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,479
I just even finished the question.
Well, no question. My question

1080
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:26,319
is do does he consider it to
be a main line? I don't care

1081
01:12:26,399 --> 01:12:28,800
what is. I don't care why
he thinks it is. I just want

1082
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,439
to know why he's never had.
Yeah, it's not it's not mainline.

1083
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,880
It is maybe the best two D
Mario game. But even if it's,

1084
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,560
you don't have the mainline to be
great. It is crazy to think that

1085
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,560
a two D platforming Mario game would
be in the mainline two D platforming Mario

1086
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,439
game series. That is crazy,
you're right, Dan, Well, no,

1087
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,279
because that's not following the path of
evolution of the series, you know,

1088
01:12:47,359 --> 01:12:49,960
like it's going back to like the
same reason that the news series.

1089
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:56,520
Heyes this, you know, going
off Dan's statement of this being one of

1090
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,479
the best two D marios. I
think this really cements the nintend To switch,

1091
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,760
y'all. For just hey, one
of the best fucking were was it

1092
01:13:05,119 --> 01:13:10,000
was this up for debate like last
week. No, just like there's some

1093
01:13:10,039 --> 01:13:15,159
people that will still poop poo on
the switch and assume it's like they don't

1094
01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:18,079
know what the fuck they're talking about. If they boopoo the switch a place

1095
01:13:18,279 --> 01:13:23,119
where we could have a conversation about
that and it's like another podcast form,

1096
01:13:23,159 --> 01:13:27,399
and that was like the first episode
we kind of maybe talked about. Actually

1097
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,840
yeah, like that, like that
could be the subject, like is the

1098
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,880
Switch the best console? And like
maybe take an input from from elsewhere and

1099
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,039
see what people say. I mean, I think I was thinking about this

1100
01:13:35,119 --> 01:13:40,479
yesterday that it launched with Mario Odyssey
and Breath of the Wild and this last

1101
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,960
final full year of it, it
had Tears of the Kingdom and Mario Wonder

1102
01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:47,119
and that's not to count all of
the other awesome ship that has come out

1103
01:13:47,159 --> 01:13:53,039
in those seven years six years.
Like it's it's it's that number one,

1104
01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:56,359
and I'd say PS two, then
three sixty, I would say, yep,

1105
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,439
Gateboy Advances up there for me,
But I don't know. I love

1106
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,239
DBA, yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, obviously sixty fourth. Ye of

1107
01:14:02,239 --> 01:14:06,479
course, you know other other games
like uh that I don't have the time

1108
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:12,119
for, but it's absolutely amazing because
of the Switch. Octopath two. I

1109
01:14:12,119 --> 01:14:15,000
don't think I'm going to ever have
time to ever play that game again,

1110
01:14:15,159 --> 01:14:20,560
but holy smokes, Octo Path two
fucking bangs at so hard. Uh fuga.

1111
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:26,720
I love loading Children into Spirit Cannons. Yeah, but like I like

1112
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,920
put together a list of games that
like I wanted to put it, Like

1113
01:14:29,039 --> 01:14:30,680
right now, it's Hot Wheels two, that Super fifty six game. I

1114
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:34,560
want to play, metal Gear Solid
Collection A City Skyline two, ghost Runners

1115
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,479
two seventh guest VR. I wanted
to check out ghost Runners good. I

1116
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,760
only played a second of it,
but it's okay. Yeah, I think

1117
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,520
they just sent me a code too, so I'm going to check that out

1118
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,880
as well. Jack Box Party Pack
ten. Yeah, we have to do

1119
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,600
that. And these are things that
like are out out yeah or coming out

1120
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:53,960
very soon. Yes, have you
played NHL Grub? I actually just installed

1121
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,159
it this morning and I was going
to play some of it. Maybe we

1122
01:14:56,199 --> 01:14:58,319
should, maybe we should play a
little bit. Let's play a little bit.

1123
01:14:58,399 --> 01:15:01,159
Yeah, absolutely, I've played a
decent amount. Okay, you would,

1124
01:15:01,279 --> 01:15:03,800
I think that'd be fine. I
got it on PlayStation as a cross

1125
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,159
play. I don't know. Yeah, I have been on PlayStation two.

1126
01:15:06,199 --> 01:15:10,199
Okay, then we're good. Yeah, but yeah, there's a I mean,

1127
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,920
Thomas is still happening for coming out
this week next year, Jussan Yeah,

1128
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:23,319
and this is Alan Wake week.
Yep, we're here. Warrior where

1129
01:15:23,399 --> 01:15:27,760
is next week, Robocops next week, Thirsty Suitors. Uh, let's see

1130
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,760
the Talos Principal too, Smurfs too. Wait when is that? When is

1131
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:35,920
Tallas principal too? Next week?
It's November second? What the fuck?

1132
01:15:38,079 --> 01:15:41,000
Turbo Shawn good idea? Jack Boxes
a t n T. That's that's a

1133
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:45,560
good show. That yeah, fantastic, let's do that all right? Look

1134
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:50,680
at the youth with ideas. Huh
I remember the friend creative Now every weird

1135
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:55,840
to have a brain that works.
But backler, I'm sending you a Tallost

1136
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:01,079
principal two code. Oh thank you. Just this is getting done. Look

1137
01:16:01,079 --> 01:16:06,800
at us. That's the same.
So hey, listen, uh Mario two

1138
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:11,520
D Mario. If they did a
Mario Wonder two, I would be completely

1139
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,079
fine, right, like series to
continue. Yes, if they did.

1140
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,359
If they did like two of these, I think that's really good. They

1141
01:16:17,359 --> 01:16:20,680
do three, I'll probably still be
fine. I just they're probably could do

1142
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,800
one two D Mario per platform.
I kind of like, hey, you

1143
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,359
could do this one more time and
then change it up again. Is where

1144
01:16:27,359 --> 01:16:30,640
I'm at. I think I don't
know, I could keep it. I

1145
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,119
mean, make Mario Wonder one two
three, like yeah, a standalone series.

1146
01:16:33,159 --> 01:16:39,840
It's absolutely got legs. Wonder Odyssey. I just want Cappy back.

1147
01:16:40,279 --> 01:16:44,319
I'm wondering how Cappy's doing. Like
you know, sometimes you got to brush

1148
01:16:44,359 --> 01:16:46,119
a hat off you sweating it,
and it's like, oh no, there's

1149
01:16:46,199 --> 01:16:50,000
mold. I hope Kapy doesn't have
mold. I want to throw that cap

1150
01:16:50,119 --> 01:16:55,479
onto that flower. Oh oh yeah, that would be a monster. That

1151
01:16:55,840 --> 01:17:00,640
would be a monster. That's how
you unluck like Cuthulhu. Yeah. Uh,

1152
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,039
speaking about cal We're gonna go take
a quick break. There was there's

1153
01:17:03,119 --> 01:17:05,880
just one. I know. I'm
sorry, I'm so I'm a bad podcaster

1154
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,800
as well as a bad YouTuber.
There was one other thing that I wanted

1155
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:16,520
to bring up. Please, I
wonder what this does to like the Odyssey

1156
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:20,960
lineage. I don't think it like
touches it. I don't think it like

1157
01:17:21,039 --> 01:17:25,159
touches it. But I just wonder, like you know what, I I

1158
01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:29,760
do think Odyssey had like a similar
weirdness. Right, It's just you know,

1159
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,279
it's like made in the same way
of like, do you have an

1160
01:17:31,319 --> 01:17:34,479
idea, let's try it. It's
fine, that's sure. It's just another

1161
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:40,319
product available at the Wonka stored at
this point, right, like Okay,

1162
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,520
I just want to say that out
loud and see if anyone had like anything

1163
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,279
intelligent to say. And Jeff Grub, I'm glad you did. Yeah,

1164
01:17:45,359 --> 01:17:48,359
yeah, I'm here for you.
Thank you. Listen. I think that

1165
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:54,960
if if I'm good, I'm glad
Nintato's out here making games this way of

1166
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:59,119
taking your time, uh not feeling
like they do have to have three of

1167
01:17:59,159 --> 01:18:02,760
these per generations so they can say, let's come up with five hundred ideas

1168
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,760
and take the one hundred and fifty
to two hundred best ideas and put that

1169
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:12,520
into a game. That's clearly what's
happened probably since like well probably since the

1170
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,039
beginning, but really since like the
Galaxy games, and then you get in

1171
01:18:15,079 --> 01:18:16,000
the Galaxy too, and you wereize, oh my god, they had so

1172
01:18:16,079 --> 01:18:18,479
many more awesome ideas that they can
put it in here, and like since

1173
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,920
then they're like, oh, that
works really well. And now they're in

1174
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:25,760
this really good place where they're taking
their time with releasing games to the point

1175
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:29,159
where they hold on to them for
sometimes up to a year and a half

1176
01:18:29,159 --> 01:18:31,600
two years completely finished before they put
them out, and like now they're certain

1177
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,520
to like at to a point where
like, well, we're gonna hold on

1178
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,680
to them for that long. What
if we just sort of like just movesy

1179
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:40,079
through it and like take our time
thinking about what can make this game really

1180
01:18:40,079 --> 01:18:43,079
good. And that's what they did
with this one. No release date when

1181
01:18:43,079 --> 01:18:45,880
they started making it, no idea
when they were going to release, Like,

1182
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,399
no, just keep working on it
and what it feels right, then

1183
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,239
we'll decide what we're going to do
with it. And it's like that is

1184
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:54,840
if everyone could make games that way, we would be in a much better

1185
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,039
place. And the reality is most
people making games are the furthest thing away

1186
01:18:58,039 --> 01:19:00,880
from that, where there's so many
pressures to get the game out in a

1187
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,239
relatively short amount of time, and
it's it's it's it, you know,

1188
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,319
not saying it's hurting games, but
clearly this is what you can do when

1189
01:19:06,319 --> 01:19:11,520
you have that creative freedom and the
ability to just just iterate and iterate and

1190
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,520
iterate. And I'm I'm just I'm
like buzzing coming off of this game for

1191
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,640
sure. Yeah, you here that
developers just be as good, right,

1192
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:24,560
Why wouldn't you just that make so
much money? You should do That's what

1193
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,600
I would do. That's what they
tell Like athletes They're like, be babe,

1194
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,880
Ruth. Just guess that's that's what
they're telling all athletes. Yeah,

1195
01:19:33,199 --> 01:19:40,159
I was, but Wagner over here, I was gonna say, but you

1196
01:19:40,159 --> 01:19:44,079
know, come on, before we
get out of here, Dan, don't

1197
01:19:44,199 --> 01:19:47,560
go off one when of your tanagents, just explain why. I wonder not

1198
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:54,840
so don't you have to take why
because I'm a miserable funck and I he's

1199
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,560
I'm gonna be thinking about this and
I mean, listen, I can't let

1200
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,279
him win. But he's gonna win. But okay, there is it's a

1201
01:20:00,319 --> 01:20:05,039
clearer progression in that series, starting
with Super Mario Brothers. The first mainline

1202
01:20:05,039 --> 01:20:09,760
Mario game two and three speak for
themselves. They have two and three in

1203
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:14,640
the title World Obviously that was okay, Super Nintendo. It's so we've blown

1204
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,520
this out, you know, but
it's it's still the same mainline series.

1205
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,880
World two clearly is not up for
discussion. It's got World two in the

1206
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:25,840
title. So and then Mario sixty
four launches. The sixty four of course,

1207
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,560
that's mainline Mario Sunshine. Okay,
No, there's not been a single

1208
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,199
reason why so far, but keep
going. Okay, a single player Mario

1209
01:20:32,319 --> 01:20:36,560
platformers where it's just a big quest
and you take down Bowser or Wart or

1210
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:40,039
someone. At the end, you're
jumping on shit, you're play It's just

1211
01:20:40,119 --> 01:20:45,720
a big scope, single player platformer
game that is moving forward. There is

1212
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,319
a progression, and so you go
from Sunshine to Galaxy. You had a

1213
01:20:49,359 --> 01:20:53,039
Galaxy two. That's another one with
the number in the title. That's obvious

1214
01:20:53,319 --> 01:20:56,760
ot to see the next progression.
You've got the cap powers and everything,

1215
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:01,520
but clearly big epic ope, you
know, Player Mario Adventure. You can't

1216
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:08,479
go back when you're determining what a
mainline series is. So New Super Mario

1217
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,800
Brothers that series is not mainline because
that was like a first of all,

1218
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,479
it says new like it's a new
series, but it is going back.

1219
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:15,880
It's like a retro like, hey, remember when we used to make them

1220
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,439
with like two D. Wonder is
doing that too, which is it's just

1221
01:21:20,039 --> 01:21:24,560
it might as well be called New
Super Mario Brothers Wonder. So the reason

1222
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:29,640
why is because it's two D.
That's a big part of it, and

1223
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,199
it's got subject and it's got a
different subjects on it. It's Wonder.

1224
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:35,359
It's that indicates that it's it's at
the new it's it's a new series.

1225
01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:42,920
That's like saying, so no it
because because because it is a bad reason,

1226
01:21:43,079 --> 01:21:45,840
and line was weird because it's all
the like progression and all of a

1227
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,199
sudden, no wait, we did
another like two d like call back one

1228
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,000
reason, and then they're going to
do the next like the the big Bowser's

1229
01:21:50,039 --> 01:21:54,439
fury type you know, open world
thing whatever that will be. That will

1230
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,319
be the next one. You know, this helps me because now I can

1231
01:21:57,359 --> 01:22:01,119
I could deal with it because he's
knowing it's a really bad reason. Mario

1232
01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:06,520
Platformer, that's the series. I
just want to thank Dan for disqualifying Yoshi's

1233
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:12,399
Island and his own bad attempt to
explain this. Thank you. Oh that's

1234
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:17,000
disqualify Yoshi's Island. Sorry I'm wait
sorry, wait wait wait why wait?

1235
01:22:17,039 --> 01:22:21,439
What just fade us out? How
does Yo say to be a Mario single

1236
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:26,000
player game? You don't play as
Mario and Yoshi's Island, well you do

1237
01:22:26,079 --> 01:22:28,520
when you get the star. And
also it's just called Mario World two.

1238
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:32,720
So that's just not even up for
debate. All right again, I can't.

1239
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:39,760
I will scream that till the day
I die. Oh you podcast chuckle

1240
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:44,800
fox, don't matter compared to Memoto
all. I should have listened, folks.

1241
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,720
I mean, I see, after
a quick bricky break and we'll we'll

1242
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:51,079
we'll collect ourselves, so Jeff will
rethink his decisions and what he wants to

1243
01:22:51,079 --> 01:22:56,479
invite. And then you know,
games, You guys have made games.

1244
01:22:57,039 --> 01:23:04,520
I've got game developers and Mario's creator
on my side. You know, I've

1245
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:11,239
been watching a lot of a lot
of Colombo. Yeah really, yes,

1246
01:23:11,399 --> 01:23:15,960
yes, always all the time,
so Dan, yes, one more thing?

1247
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:21,720
Yeah, so that was? That
was I was at the Columbo that

1248
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,239
I don't know Colombo. Okay,
I'm about to watch Columbo in a theater

1249
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,960
this weekend, that's all? Hell? Yeah? Really yeah? Yeah,

1250
01:23:29,079 --> 01:23:32,279
yeah. You should listen to the
podcast Columbos afterward. Oh yeah, yeah,

1251
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:38,039
you should subscribe to my newsletter Columbus
Scholla. Oh. I have a

1252
01:23:38,079 --> 01:23:42,399
friend who for ten years has done
a Columbo's Day party where he has people

1253
01:23:42,399 --> 01:23:45,720
come over and everyone dresses Columbo and
watch Columbo. And this is the tenth

1254
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,279
and final one. So we rented
out a theater to play Colombo in the

1255
01:23:47,319 --> 01:23:50,720
second So, man, that's really
cool. But you wanted one more thing,

1256
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:55,560
jan right, Yes, okay,
I hesitate to do this, because

1257
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,720
I think I am just assassinating my
argument if I do this. But look,

1258
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,399
we're and I'm gonna shoot with you
here. This is no o k

1259
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:09,520
fabe. I uh. I was
playing Wonder yesterday at the Airport Lounge,

1260
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,680
thinking about it a lot, just
like, man, this game is great.

1261
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,079
I'm really loving this game, and
then the thought popped up into my

1262
01:24:15,159 --> 01:24:26,239
head unprompted, Wait, why don't
I think this is mainline? Dad?

1263
01:24:25,319 --> 01:24:30,079
You this though that thought? I
was like, wait a minute, you

1264
01:24:30,079 --> 01:24:34,720
can grow amazing full on Mario Adventure. This is like like the ghosts,

1265
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:38,359
don't disqualify it, Like, is
it just there's a different name. I

1266
01:24:38,359 --> 01:24:40,640
mean, honestly had a different name. You know. It's like it's not

1267
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:45,399
said. This is so fucking said. Shut up, don't discourage you beautiful

1268
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,359
progress. This is magic. It's
progress. I'm with you, Jeff.

1269
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:53,000
Of course it's progress. Of course
we all want Dan to move in positive

1270
01:24:53,039 --> 01:24:58,640
directions. Yeah. Yeah, but
like you were describing, you're describing that

1271
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,640
like your instincts say so one thing, and then your mind is like,

1272
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,279
no, I have to suffocate that
idea because I have to stand all on

1273
01:25:04,359 --> 01:25:06,800
the thing that I don't really believe
in. Well, the thing about it,

1274
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,319
I could I could make bullshit arguments
about anything. I could say like,

1275
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,520
well, Mario Galaxy is in mainline
because it's in space and does gravity.

1276
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,640
Stuff that doesn't make any sense.
We're aware of your gimmick about making

1277
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:20,239
bullshit arguments about anything. You don't
have to refresh. I think it's a

1278
01:25:20,279 --> 01:25:24,600
knee jerk reaction. I just do
it, and it's just now my brain

1279
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,840
works now. And but then when
I stop and actually question the things I'm

1280
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,079
saying, I'm like, wait,
this doesn't make any sense. And really

1281
01:25:30,119 --> 01:25:32,640
it's fun to question things when when
you question yourself really look inside. Yeah,

1282
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,800
man, wow, that you're really
smart. Dan, I do that

1283
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:41,399
too much lately. Here's where you
just fucked your entire ship up. No

1284
01:25:42,039 --> 01:25:46,560
you, here's how you just fucked
yourself for all eternity. You just admitted

1285
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:53,880
publicly on a podcast that it's all
the work a work. No, No,

1286
01:25:54,159 --> 01:25:59,039
that's it's not. But he's working. I know how to work,

1287
01:25:59,079 --> 01:26:03,079
and I will utilize at but it's
not all a work. It's it's definitely

1288
01:26:03,319 --> 01:26:09,640
uh like he doesn't think about the
why. It's just the knee jerk.

1289
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:13,239
And then and then once just like
it's like the think about the why happens

1290
01:26:13,279 --> 01:26:15,479
so much later that it becomes a
scary thing I think is what happens here.

1291
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,680
It's like it's just a natural thing
to like being of this stuff.

1292
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,600
Like I'm not not a grand plan
or anything like that. It's just that

1293
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,520
that's what people say about me when
I when you know, when I always

1294
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,880
think everything sucks, right, But
that's a shoot. Well, everything does

1295
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,840
suck, that's the thing. Everything
sucks. A lot of things are awesome,

1296
01:26:33,279 --> 01:26:36,880
yes, but most most things suck. But there's plenty of things I

1297
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:41,079
do, like, uh, you
go to to a vacuum shop. Everything

1298
01:26:41,239 --> 01:26:50,479
sucks here, all right, news. I didn't say it was mainline.

1299
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:54,520
I questioned why I thought that it
wasn't for the record, and you have

1300
01:26:54,680 --> 01:27:00,399
no reason why it was. You're
you're the fucking gate keeper. I'm a

1301
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:05,560
Mario historian. I have against world. Yes, girls, the validated over

1302
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:11,760
and over authenticity and and uh uh
you know value of a of a fucking

1303
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,600
Guinness Record, Thank you, I
did. That's a shoot mine. You

1304
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,439
would probably the most difficult thing in
the world to be a tour guide for

1305
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:21,399
the four of us, because you
would just get stuck on one thing and

1306
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:25,239
then four two guys like, all
right, guys, we uh, we

1307
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,600
still got a lot of next thing, and we'd still be arguing about the

1308
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:32,279
thing four things ago. Yes,
absolutely switch to rumors and it's going to

1309
01:27:32,319 --> 01:27:38,439
switch to May feature Ray Reconstruction DLSS
three point five and have two skews,

1310
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:42,399
one digital ones like one. It
is all digital ray. When was it

1311
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,479
ray reconstruction? You got to reconstructor
ray? Is he related to ray tracing?

1312
01:27:47,319 --> 01:27:54,600
Yes, doctor, ray tracing the
rails? Uh yes, listen,

1313
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,319
this is all a bunch of Nvidia
features that that they're talking about. And

1314
01:27:58,319 --> 01:28:00,399
then the two SKUs in all digital
and then the one that has a physical

1315
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,479
you know, card slot as well. That's something everyone else is doing.

1316
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,840
It was probably going to do that
as well, so that they can have

1317
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:14,560
a slightly more affordable version on the
shelves. This stuff sounds plausible, but

1318
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,600
I just don't know. I don't
need ray tracing on my switch. Other

1319
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:23,880
than the fact I think developers may
want it to be like uniform or in

1320
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:28,439
video wants it because it's like more
promoting in video ArtX features and a lot

1321
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:33,279
more games and for them if Nintendo
has in video style ray tracing. That

1322
01:28:33,399 --> 01:28:36,119
means more games are just going to
support it, and then that stuff can

1323
01:28:36,159 --> 01:28:40,600
come to PC and that helps benefit
them in both directions. But I don't

1324
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,840
know, you guys getting out of
bed for ray tracing these days? No,

1325
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:46,720
Yeah, I get in bed for
ray tracing. Okay, well that's

1326
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,840
a little different. Yeah, whoa
whoa, whoa, whoa whoa moodles.

1327
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:54,000
Look, I just I have a
hard time imagining we're going to get to

1328
01:28:54,159 --> 01:28:57,680
the close to the launch of the
Nintendo Switch to whatever they call it,

1329
01:28:58,119 --> 01:29:00,840
and one of the features in like
the big reveal is going to be and

1330
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,920
it has raid tracing. I just
don't think Nintendo's going to go down like

1331
01:29:04,039 --> 01:29:09,000
that route of like using buzzwords in
that way. But I don't know,

1332
01:29:09,039 --> 01:29:11,880
maybe they do. It's never really
been their approach, you know. I

1333
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,880
feel like the last time they tried
to like keep up with the Joneses on

1334
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,159
a technical level was that GameCube generation
where it was like, okay, you

1335
01:29:17,159 --> 01:29:19,760
could have a game on all three
platforms, and they pretty much looked similar

1336
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:23,359
Like once the Week came out,
it was like clearly more underpowered, and

1337
01:29:23,399 --> 01:29:27,920
they didn't really care. You know, They've never once cared about specs.

1338
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,439
They're not going to start now right
like and to start with the rage rate,

1339
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,800
like come on, I now,
I just still. They're working very

1340
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:38,680
close with Nvidia. They have a
long term partnership with Nvidia. Their next

1341
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:42,680
three systems are probably going to be
all in VideA backed, you know,

1342
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,920
into the future, and so I
think that strong relationship means that Nvidia will

1343
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:49,039
bring them, Hey, we're working
on this system on a chip and we're

1344
01:29:49,039 --> 01:29:51,159
going to give you this and this
and this and all this stuff is just

1345
01:29:51,199 --> 01:29:54,600
going to work and it's going to
be in there and developers are gonna love

1346
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,680
it. And I think Nintendo goes, yeah, how much did it cost?

1347
01:29:57,159 --> 01:29:59,680
It's okay, Well, if you
can make it affordable for us to

1348
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,199
buy a a billion of these,
then yeah, we'll do it. Otherwise,

1349
01:30:02,279 --> 01:30:04,800
fucking take that shit out. And
if taking that stuff out makes it

1350
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:09,439
more affordable, then they'll probably consider
that what's happening here is in videas like

1351
01:30:10,119 --> 01:30:12,960
we can get down to that price
and keeps most of this stuff in because

1352
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,840
we think it's important and we think
it'll it'll help you and keep this relationship

1353
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,199
strong, and it helps Nvidia in
the long run. But I mean even

1354
01:30:19,199 --> 01:30:23,960
if DLSS three point five is in
there, and DLS three to three point

1355
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,760
five is the one with raid reconstruction, which makes ray tracing look really nice,

1356
01:30:28,159 --> 01:30:31,359
works really well, I wouldn't even
expect most games to take advantage of

1357
01:30:31,359 --> 01:30:33,680
this, happy to have it,
like, yeah, right, exactly,

1358
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:39,199
it's not going to hurt anything,
right, yes exactly? How real quick,

1359
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:43,760
how would you guys feel about the
other side of that coint of having

1360
01:30:44,279 --> 01:30:48,359
a more affordable model, What if
there was a really lush premium switch to

1361
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,399
available of Like if they have an
O lead at the at the start and

1362
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:56,359
it's like significantly more expensive, I'm
probably still gonna get because I play mind

1363
01:30:56,359 --> 01:30:58,880
Handled so much and I love the
O lead screen. It sounds like the

1364
01:31:00,079 --> 01:31:02,640
versions were being offered at the beginning
of this next generation won't be O let.

1365
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:08,319
They will go back to just your
standard LCD. And so if if

1366
01:31:08,319 --> 01:31:10,600
to get an O lead, I
had that, like you know, there's

1367
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:15,000
the all digital at one price maybe
like four hundred, four fifty even,

1368
01:31:15,079 --> 01:31:17,439
and then there's the real big boy
model and that's five hundred, and then

1369
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:20,199
if I had to go up to
like five fifty, like that's pretty expensive,

1370
01:31:20,239 --> 01:31:24,479
But I mean, I don't know. I would consider it for sure,

1371
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:28,560
because I'm thinking about like how you
know, some people are conditioned to

1372
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,279
buy a new phone every single year, or like a new iPad, right,

1373
01:31:31,359 --> 01:31:35,760
and it's like incremental updates versus something
that'd be substantial with a switch to

1374
01:31:36,359 --> 01:31:41,840
And I feel like for an OLED
screen, bigger memory, potentially better battery

1375
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:46,640
life, I'd pay the premium for
it because of how much I'd remembered just

1376
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:51,079
having the switch dominate my life when
it originally came out. I think that's

1377
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:56,399
totally reasonable to have a beefed up
one out of the gate. Why not,

1378
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:00,279
Like, yeah, I have to. The reason is because it like

1379
01:32:00,399 --> 01:32:02,880
that makes manufacturing more complicated, right, yeah, right, I get that.

1380
01:32:03,079 --> 01:32:08,079
Two skews like that. It's weird. Yeah, it sounds like the

1381
01:32:08,079 --> 01:32:12,239
two SKUs that they're going for are
these are pretty much the exact same systems.

1382
01:32:12,279 --> 01:32:15,000
Just one doesn't have a card slot. That's pretty easy to do,

1383
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:18,079
and and then you know most people
probably do get the one with the card

1384
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:23,640
uh slot card reader. And then
beyond that, it's but don't you think

1385
01:32:24,159 --> 01:32:28,199
don't you think, like so you
could still get an OG switch like not

1386
01:32:28,359 --> 01:32:30,800
O LED. You can still buy
that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1387
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:32,279
totally. Yeah. I just think
like, uh, you know, I

1388
01:32:32,279 --> 01:32:39,760
don't know, it just seems like
a bit of a generational step backwards it

1389
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,199
is, to come out of the
gate without an O lead, but it

1390
01:32:42,199 --> 01:32:45,479
does it opens up the opportunity for
them to do what Nintendo has always done.

1391
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:46,760
Maybe a little bit less so with
the switch, but they've always done

1392
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:50,840
the thing where you know, we
launched this device and then we have four

1393
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:55,119
or five different iterations on it.
You know, there's the DS and the

1394
01:32:55,199 --> 01:33:00,880
ds I and the d s I
XL. Yeah, the DS go DSXL

1395
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:04,039
and all this stuff, and then
yeah, the three DS had six variations

1396
01:33:04,119 --> 01:33:08,239
right by the time it was all
said and done. And they so it's

1397
01:33:08,279 --> 01:33:11,600
basically one console launch per year.
If you look at it that way,

1398
01:33:12,039 --> 01:33:16,600
they probably won't be that aggressive mainline
exactly. And so I think holding that

1399
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,439
stuff back it's kind of like a
mat and right or where it's like a

1400
01:33:20,159 --> 01:33:23,680
or the SIMS where it's like,
Okay, we're gonna strip a lot of

1401
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,680
stuff out so we can then add
that stuff back in with new expansions or

1402
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,840
new updates going forward. It's kind
of what they're probably gonna end up doing

1403
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:35,239
here. Okay, moving on Dreams
and Little Big Planet. Studio Media Molecule

1404
01:33:35,399 --> 01:33:41,640
is reportedly laying off fifteen to twenty
percent of its staff. This comes on

1405
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:45,399
the heels of them announcing that they
were ending support for Dreams. Not like

1406
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,399
not really surprising, but also it's
kind of it's a bummer. It's like,

1407
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,239
why couldn't they ever figure out how
to or what to do with Media

1408
01:33:51,319 --> 01:33:55,560
Molecule, a really talent studio that
did a lot of very creative stuff,

1409
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,159
And by the time that Dreams was
all said and done, it's like,

1410
01:33:59,199 --> 01:34:01,119
man like that they never found its
footing. They never gave it a chance

1411
01:34:01,159 --> 01:34:03,199
to like be on PC, which
I always thought like, hey, that's

1412
01:34:03,239 --> 01:34:05,840
a past that like a hail Mary
past that probably could have done something.

1413
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:10,239
Yeah, never even tried that.
Instead word in a position where they're kind

1414
01:34:10,239 --> 01:34:14,039
of cutting some jobs, and at
the same time, PlayStation's Visual Arts Group

1415
01:34:14,239 --> 01:34:17,239
appears to have also suffered layoffs.
This is a support studio in California.

1416
01:34:17,319 --> 01:34:20,600
Primarily. They have a studio in
Malaysia that's opened up, but apparently some

1417
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:25,600
people have been laid off from there
as well. I suppose you could say

1418
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:29,039
they're in between Big projects, So
maybe they're cutting jobs because of that,

1419
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,760
maybe pulling some contractors. It just
seems like no Sony is nipping and tucking

1420
01:34:33,119 --> 01:34:38,159
because PlayStation, while that's very,
very healthy, the rest of Sony not

1421
01:34:38,239 --> 01:34:42,000
so much, and so making sure
that PlayStation is as profitable as possible is

1422
01:34:42,039 --> 01:34:45,439
a big concern for them. That's
what seems like what's happening here. Do

1423
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:50,000
you guys think that Media Molecule has
a future doing what it's done for the

1424
01:34:50,039 --> 01:34:56,720
last ten to fifteen years of making
these player created games, player back games.

1425
01:34:57,159 --> 01:35:00,960
I would almost like to see maybe
more stuff like air Away, which

1426
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,720
you know, the creation stuff in
there was just kind of you determining like

1427
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,319
Okay, draw a shape and that's
going to become the snowflakes in the world,

1428
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:11,039
right, you know, Like I
think they utilize gimmicks in a really

1429
01:35:11,039 --> 01:35:14,439
good way, Like look at everything
Tearaway did with the hardware of the Vita.

1430
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:19,199
I I don't know, I I
the successive one of those types of

1431
01:35:19,239 --> 01:35:24,520
games like a Dreams for a Little
Big Planet kind of lizardize based on the

1432
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:28,520
the player base and how often they're
because like they're pretty complicated, Like I

1433
01:35:29,239 --> 01:35:30,800
tried, I watch all the tutorials
and everything for a little big planet Dreams

1434
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:35,079
all that stuff, and it's just
too much. It is like a whole

1435
01:35:35,159 --> 01:35:38,840
thing you have to learn, and
but all you need is at least that

1436
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:43,319
like one percent dedicated player base to
really utilize it and then just kind of

1437
01:35:43,399 --> 01:35:46,359
keep content coming out on the game. But I think the more complicated they

1438
01:35:46,399 --> 01:35:49,680
make things, I think the harder
it's the barrier for entry is for people

1439
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:54,840
to build the stuff that will give
it legs. Yeah, I think it's

1440
01:35:55,159 --> 01:35:57,800
go ahead. Jan Police. I
agree with that to an extent because you

1441
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:02,119
know, you look at something where
the the creator base comes from the players,

1442
01:36:02,199 --> 01:36:06,319
like Rowblocks, right, Like,
it's not an incredibly difficult tool set,

1443
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:11,479
yet people are still making several different
modes. Something is scaled down as

1444
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:15,760
Minecraft right still. We talked about
this on game mes last week, where

1445
01:36:15,079 --> 01:36:21,720
still has an insane amount of popularity
and some of that isn't coming from people

1446
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:26,279
just creating and just playing a bass
game. I think the problem with something

1447
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:30,920
with Dreams is what is that base
game? Yeah, because it's too much

1448
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:34,560
of a blank camp canvas, the
underline hook that keeps you there, that

1449
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:38,079
makes you like, Okay, now
I'm gonna go like, you almost need

1450
01:36:38,119 --> 01:36:41,800
like this hub that you're attached to, like Mario Maker. Yeah, you

1451
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,760
need a PlayStation home. Yeah,
like Mario Maker. Like I like Mario,

1452
01:36:45,199 --> 01:36:47,199
I'll just spend time here and then
cool stuff's popping up, I'm gonna

1453
01:36:47,199 --> 01:36:50,720
go check it out, you know. And even that was like really I

1454
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:55,359
was having fun rivalries with like friends
and they would make stuff and we'd go

1455
01:36:55,399 --> 01:36:58,760
back and forth. And that's the
magic of Mario Maker. And you know,

1456
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,840
I'm sure that they you could do
stuff like that in dreams and probably

1457
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,359
even more so in a little big
planet, but they don't have the same

1458
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:10,920
gravity, the same stickiness as something
like a Mario And maybe that's required for

1459
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:15,760
something like this, or or at
least you need to be winning over an

1460
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:20,880
entire new generation of gamers like Roadblocks
did. So Yeah, I think I'm

1461
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:29,159
with you, Dan. Maybe the
ship on player created content bespoke game releases

1462
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:33,840
has mostly shipped away, and they
should they find other ways to do that,

1463
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:40,640
or maybe medium Molecule could be like
spearheading something like a project of how

1464
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:44,159
do you bring player created content into
all of these PlayStation games, or something

1465
01:37:44,199 --> 01:37:46,720
like a PlayStation home. That could
be cool, you know, like,

1466
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:51,680
look like obviously, like there is
success in many, many different forms of

1467
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:57,840
this type of relationship, right,
yes, definitely many which I don't want

1468
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:02,680
to mention. And I feel like
I really wish that this was the platform

1469
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:11,039
that took off in that way,
right, Yeah, I think it's difficult

1470
01:38:11,079 --> 01:38:15,000
to. Like you said, learning
curve there is obviously a thing, adoption

1471
01:38:15,119 --> 01:38:18,119
is obviously a thing, but man, the quality and the creativity and then

1472
01:38:18,159 --> 01:38:26,039
that entire ecosystem that exists within all
of those properties is just absolutely fascinating to

1473
01:38:26,079 --> 01:38:29,279
me. And I just it's just
like it's it's kind of tragic, you

1474
01:38:29,319 --> 01:38:32,039
know. Yeah, it's like in
sports where it's like not the best player,

1475
01:38:32,079 --> 01:38:35,159
but he's always available, and that's
the best ability is availability, and

1476
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:39,239
like you can get roadblocks on your
phone, your PC, it's really easy

1477
01:38:39,239 --> 01:38:43,399
to run, and then dreams say
it's just on PlayStation and you got to

1478
01:38:43,399 --> 01:38:45,920
buy the game itself, and then
eventually it's like, okay, well here's

1479
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:46,880
like a free version where you could
just try some of the stuff, I

1480
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:48,840
guess, and or if you want
to create, that's free. I don't

1481
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,920
even remember how they did that,
but that happened like way later. Yeah,

1482
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,800
that that those barrier to entries and
then leaving it just on the PlayStation.

1483
01:38:57,319 --> 01:39:00,439
It never really stood a chance,
even though the quality of what was

1484
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:04,279
being produced I think from outside objectively
looked better. Did it have an official

1485
01:39:04,359 --> 01:39:11,399
PS five release or was it always
just four? I think they just look

1486
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:13,279
at it that way, Okay,
I think, yeah, I don't think

1487
01:39:13,319 --> 01:39:15,359
it had any upgrade advertise. Ye. You know. That creates an interesting

1488
01:39:15,399 --> 01:39:19,000
problem of like if you have to
buy in, like how do you increase

1489
01:39:19,079 --> 01:39:23,439
discoverability because like a lot of people
that buy in may just buy in for

1490
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:26,039
like the one or two neat things
and then like all right, well to

1491
01:39:26,119 --> 01:39:30,199
check that out. I guess,
yeah, totally, Like they're other than

1492
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:36,680
hoping something goes viral on social media. It is a difficult problem to solve

1493
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:41,880
to get people in the door to
begin with, unless there's like a free

1494
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,920
thing off the off the jump,
right, yeah, I mean yeah,

1495
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:48,479
And I think what we're talking about
is, uh, turning these games into

1496
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:53,239
platforms, and like that seems like
the clear goal. What if it was

1497
01:39:53,319 --> 01:39:57,399
like not the goal though, Like
what if you were like Nintendo has their

1498
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:00,520
weird team or the weird teams,
like hey we make weird, we put

1499
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:01,840
it out and then we forget about
it. We move on to the next

1500
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:05,680
weird thing. Like there's Labbo,
but then there's game maker Garage, and

1501
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:10,239
game maker Garage is a very similar
idea of make your own games in this

1502
01:40:10,319 --> 01:40:14,479
thing, and no one ever worried
about that then turning into a platform or

1503
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:16,239
even like selling all that well,
or people being able to take their games

1504
01:40:16,279 --> 01:40:19,439
out of it and sell those games. It's like, these are all concerns

1505
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:23,159
and anxieties that happen with dreams,
and it's like, well, no,

1506
01:40:23,239 --> 01:40:26,560
this is just a weird Nintendo thing
being a weird Nintendo thing. If Media

1507
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:30,319
Molecule could get into that space where
it like just make weird stuff and no

1508
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:35,319
promises of some bigger, grander idea
of this fitting into the overall gaming landscape,

1509
01:40:35,359 --> 01:40:38,479
it's like, no, it's just
a weird thing for PlayStation. Let's

1510
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,680
release it and move on. That
would be good for that studio, and

1511
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:45,319
I hope they can find their way, you know, navigate the current PlayStation

1512
01:40:45,399 --> 01:40:48,039
to make that happen. I don't
know how hopeful I would be for that

1513
01:40:48,079 --> 01:40:51,439
to be able to be pulled off, though, because Sony wants worldwide global

1514
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:56,720
hits and then they want live service
games, and I don't know if that

1515
01:40:56,760 --> 01:41:00,319
fits in with what Media Molecule can
maybe be able to pull off. And

1516
01:41:00,359 --> 01:41:05,000
then for Visual Arts Studio, this
is the team that was going to or

1517
01:41:05,039 --> 01:41:10,119
wanted to, They were interested in
taking over Uncharted, and then they actually

1518
01:41:10,279 --> 01:41:14,840
ended up actually start working on the
Last of Us Part one remake before Naughty

1519
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,439
Dog was like got pretty territorial about
both those things and said no to Uncharted

1520
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:21,840
and then took over the Last of
Us Part one remake from Visual Arts Studio.

1521
01:41:24,399 --> 01:41:27,199
That studio always seemed a bit like, hey, we want to do

1522
01:41:27,279 --> 01:41:29,560
more, and then they've been sort
of slapped down and be like, no,

1523
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:31,520
you got to know your place,
and I think that's kind of hurt

1524
01:41:32,079 --> 01:41:36,359
morale there. And now they're kind
of they're experiencing layoffs. So yeah,

1525
01:41:36,399 --> 01:41:41,000
it's a it's a weird thing,
but also maybe there's a bigger story there

1526
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:45,840
that we're not aware of. I
don't know it. While Sony is experiencing

1527
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:49,279
layoffs, games are doing very well. Sony says Spider Man two is the

1528
01:41:49,319 --> 01:41:55,479
fastest selling PlayStation studios game in history. It sold two point five or yeah,

1529
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:59,600
two point five million copies in its
first twenty four hours. They say

1530
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:03,640
that does get the fastest selling PlayStation
game and stood in its history. But

1531
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:06,279
but it's hard to compare it to
the other ones because they always use a

1532
01:42:06,279 --> 01:42:10,920
different timeframe, Like God of War, rag Rock was like five million in

1533
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:15,560
like three days, Spider Man was
a four million in two days or four

1534
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,520
days or something like that. We've
never had one rock this is it's sold

1535
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:23,439
this many in twenty four hours,
So they always kind of change it up,

1536
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:26,680
so it's hard to compare apples to
apples either way. Though, that's

1537
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,680
very good. Two point five million
copies in a day. Yeah, clearly

1538
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:31,439
we knew Spider Man two is going
to be very successful. It is a

1539
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:39,680
massive hit for first Insomniac. Do
you guys think they can maintain this level

1540
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:44,039
of of like sales with like Wolverine
and other things like that, And it's

1541
01:42:44,039 --> 01:42:48,199
like with Wolverine warns popular, Yeah, very popular. Yeah. Like if

1542
01:42:48,239 --> 01:42:55,600
we're looking at like the Marvel hierarchy
before the MCU, it's Wolverine and Spider

1543
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:59,439
Man are probably like the top two
most recognizable characters, right. I think

1544
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:03,600
that's maybe Hulk, maybe Venom,
and then even then Captain American iron Man

1545
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:09,199
at were still bottom of that list, and then probably like the very very

1546
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:14,119
very very bottom is like Cyclops.
Maybe I don't know about that slander.

1547
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,119
I've done a lot of scientific research, and you know, Cyclops is at

1548
01:43:17,199 --> 01:43:20,000
least a solid five or seven.
You know, he's cool, Scott something,

1549
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:26,279
He's like no, like he was
willing to do what needed to be

1550
01:43:26,319 --> 01:43:29,760
done. But Fantastic four is probably
above Cyclops. I'll give you that.

1551
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,199
Yeah, but you know I'm a
Fantastic four kind of sucks man. I

1552
01:43:33,239 --> 01:43:39,439
don't know, excuse me. The
first family in marvels not it's just like

1553
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:44,800
not you read Richards can stretch his
brain out. Yeah, I guess that's

1554
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:49,279
that's kind of cool. So smart. Not only can you stretch your arms

1555
01:43:49,279 --> 01:43:53,399
out and be all super stretching,
like, oh I can get that can

1556
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:57,800
over there, but now I can
think hella hard because my brain can keep

1557
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:03,960
growing. Jessica Alvis Tower disability and
just going away, not just like not

1558
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:12,399
appearing to be there, having a
underwear bran Yeah, Michael as the thing

1559
01:44:14,119 --> 01:44:16,600
who a billionaire isn't just al but
like a billionaire like didn't you like launch

1560
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:20,960
some crazy like sauty brand thing or
something. That's what going away is all

1561
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:26,399
that sounds plausible, Like that's always
what happens is these celebrities have their own

1562
01:44:26,399 --> 01:44:30,079
brands and then they sell them and
become billionaires. Her husband has a very

1563
01:44:30,079 --> 01:44:38,239
popular underwear brand. I think okay
is uh. I was like, I

1564
01:44:38,279 --> 01:44:40,720
was like, is it Alta am? I just think an Alba and Alta

1565
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:44,239
sound alike, and that is what
I was doing. That just happened to

1566
01:44:44,279 --> 01:44:48,279
my brain real quick. Small little
tidbits on Spider Man two Insomniac is fixing

1567
01:44:48,399 --> 01:44:53,279
a Cuban flag that they put up
inside the house of Miles Morales, who

1568
01:44:53,319 --> 01:44:57,239
is a Puerto Rican or a Puerto
Rican descent. Actually, uh so that's

1569
01:44:57,279 --> 01:45:00,239
a little bit of a noopsie.
Uh that game very good about representing New

1570
01:45:00,319 --> 01:45:04,680
York Puerto Rican culture. This is
just I looked at the flag. I

1571
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:08,359
saw it. I didn't like,
I'm a dummy, so I didn't think

1572
01:45:08,399 --> 01:45:11,359
anything of it when I saw it. And I'm like, maybe part of

1573
01:45:11,359 --> 01:45:14,520
me is like I noticed it because
it's like, but I've just moved on

1574
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:17,479
really quick. I could see that
happening a little bit. But god,

1575
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,720
they're so good at this. It
is a little surprising. Depth. Don't

1576
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:25,600
let that mistake, which is still
a mistake and a big mistake. Y,

1577
01:45:26,039 --> 01:45:30,239
Yeah, takeaway from all of the
representation that they've been able to add

1578
01:45:30,279 --> 01:45:31,680
to the game. Please, it's
very good stuff in there. Yes,

1579
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:38,039
so I echo that. And then
a number of Spider Man two discs are

1580
01:45:38,039 --> 01:45:42,239
failing to fully install the game.
Mostly it seems like in Europe there seems

1581
01:45:42,279 --> 01:45:46,279
to be kind of an epidemic of
games installing from the discs stopping at thirty

1582
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:50,079
six percent or somewhere around there,
and then they just won't work. You

1583
01:45:50,079 --> 01:45:53,159
have to take it back to the
store and get a different one, and

1584
01:45:53,199 --> 01:45:56,680
there's no guarantee that disc will work. So some stores have stopped selling the

1585
01:45:56,720 --> 01:46:00,319
discs entirely until they can get like
a new batch from Sony. So hey,

1586
01:46:00,279 --> 01:46:03,359
if that's happening to you, you're
not alone. You probably want to

1587
01:46:03,399 --> 01:46:08,279
just actually call the store and not
Sony to get that fixed. But yeah,

1588
01:46:08,359 --> 01:46:13,279
good luck, okay. Sticking with
PlayStation, the PS five Slim and

1589
01:46:13,359 --> 01:46:15,479
Spidey bundles have leaked, or at
least their dates have leaked. The PlayStation

1590
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:18,840
five Slim will be released in November
twenty twenty two in the US. In

1591
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:23,359
other regions, it will be available
in two models, that standard edition with

1592
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:26,800
the disk drive, and then a
digital one that's going to be four hundred

1593
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:31,479
and fifty dollars. It sounds like
Sony is planning to launch this on November

1594
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:35,159
eighth, at least that's what the
leaker, Bill bil Koon says, And

1595
01:46:35,199 --> 01:46:39,359
this will be a bundled with Spider
Man and that's it. And it's going

1596
01:46:39,399 --> 01:46:42,359
to be a five hundred and sixty
dollars version, so it'll be the physical

1597
01:46:42,399 --> 01:46:45,359
console with a disc of Spider Man
two, and then two days later,

1598
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:49,600
apparently on November tenth, they're going
to launch the regular slim Ps fives without

1599
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:53,560
a game packaged in there. So
they haven't given us a date yet.

1600
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:56,680
Sounds like it's coming relatively soon though, And if that's the case, we

1601
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,760
got to hear about this, I
got to imagine maybe by the end of

1602
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:05,239
this, but we'll see. Microsoft
CEO says it's doubling down on being a

1603
01:47:05,319 --> 01:47:10,840
game producer and publisher. Satia Nadella
says the company is doubling down on its

1604
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:15,640
game gaming division following its acquisition of
Activision Blizzard. He believes that gaming is

1605
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:18,399
one of Microsoft's three main arms and
that it is a growing market. The

1606
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:21,920
acquisition will make Microsoft one of the
largest game publishers and will help them cater

1607
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:26,600
to a growing demand for gaming.
I don't think anyone had had the sense

1608
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:30,640
that Microsoft was retreating, but Satia
Nadella keeps coming out and talking up gaming.

1609
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:34,720
What does that look like to you, guys? What it was a

1610
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:39,760
doubling down from Microsoft look like for
video games? I get a little bit

1611
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:44,279
scared because the CEO getting involved and
just like you're you gonna stop letting Phil

1612
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:49,319
Phil and Booty cook, and that
like you're gonna double down too much and

1613
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:54,680
overcorrect when there isn't a lot of
correction to be going on right now,

1614
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:57,840
right, just get the games out. It's kind of where they need to

1615
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:00,760
be, right. Yeah, what
that looks like is that game Pass is

1616
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,039
going to be on everything moving forward, Right, It's going to be on

1617
01:48:03,079 --> 01:48:05,600
mobile. They're going to figure out
how to put that bad boy on the

1618
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:11,279
switch to It's never going to be
on the PlayStation five or whatever comes next.

1619
01:48:11,319 --> 01:48:15,359
But like, game Pass is going
to continue to be a behemoth.

1620
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:21,399
Yeah. I wonder if some Microsoft
wants to make that mobile store that's going

1621
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:27,800
to be an alternative to Google Play
and the app store. Don't That seems

1622
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:32,520
like an idea that can't work unless
some sort of like backward regulation thing happens

1623
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:36,640
where these companies get in trouble unless
they offer another another store. And Microsoft's

1624
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,359
like, we have a store you
could put on your phone, and now

1625
01:48:39,399 --> 01:48:43,640
you're good with regulators. I wonder
if they're like, try to leverage that

1626
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:45,439
and be like, and the same
is true of consoles. We'll put PlayStation

1627
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,920
store on an Xbox. If you
put Xbox Store in game Pass on PlayStation.

1628
01:48:49,279 --> 01:48:53,119
It seems crazy, but I wonder
if they think that's a possibility with

1629
01:48:53,119 --> 01:48:58,159
the way regulation is going. I
don't know. Seems a tough one to

1630
01:48:58,159 --> 01:49:01,479
pull off in terms of like what
is possible. Hey, I think they

1631
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:05,399
are mostly moving in the right direction, but the games they're putting out,

1632
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:10,560
they need to just maybe do some
of that Nintendo magic of just being Nintendo

1633
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:14,960
and take your time and make sure
things are right before you put out,

1634
01:49:15,039 --> 01:49:17,159
before you announce them even because that's
what they're at a point where like Perfect

1635
01:49:17,239 --> 01:49:20,239
Dark has been announced for years and
years and years and we haven't seen anything

1636
01:49:20,239 --> 01:49:23,439
of that thing. Yeah, grub, but we you know, take into

1637
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:26,960
account who they just acquired, and
if you're telling them to take their time

1638
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,359
and be like Nintendo. Yeah,
I don't think call of Duty waits for

1639
01:49:30,399 --> 01:49:32,600
anyone. Call duty does not wait
for anyone. Although I think it's much

1640
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,880
more likely Call of Duty would skip
a year now than when it was under

1641
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:40,159
activision, although I still don't think
it's going to be skipping years doesn't apparently

1642
01:49:40,199 --> 01:49:43,920
it doesn't know how you tried,
it sucked it up. It's like what

1643
01:49:44,279 --> 01:49:45,960
we put on another one accidentally.
Well, all you had to do was

1644
01:49:46,039 --> 01:49:49,520
nothing. Where does campaign come from? Who even made this? We don't

1645
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:53,800
know. It just happened. Yeah, were they supposed to take a year

1646
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:56,159
office? That was that was the
rumor, And that's what you could tell

1647
01:49:56,159 --> 01:49:59,279
by looking at what they're putting out
this year. It is all the Modern

1648
01:49:59,319 --> 01:50:02,960
Warfare two original maps, Like that's
all of the maps that's in Modern Warfare

1649
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:08,199
three. And it's like clearly this
was supposed to be an expansion to Modern

1650
01:50:08,199 --> 01:50:12,079
Warfare two, the new Modern Warfare
two, and then they just kind of

1651
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:15,000
bundled it back together like actually,
we'll release it for seventy dollars and call

1652
01:50:15,039 --> 01:50:18,640
it a whole thing. So yeah, yeah, it's it's it's strange,

1653
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:24,000
but yes, they have a full
call duty game this year. All right,

1654
01:50:25,279 --> 01:50:29,119
let's let's jump to this next one. Actually, Jane Meddle Gear Solid

1655
01:50:29,159 --> 01:50:33,439
four five and peace Walker allegedly referenced
in metal Gear Solid Collection files. References

1656
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:38,880
to metal Gear Solid four five and
peace Walker were found in the files of

1657
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:42,640
the recently released middle Gear Solid Master
Collection Volume one. This could be a

1658
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,760
simple test during development, or it
could be evidence that a second volume could

1659
01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:49,720
one day include these games. Metal
Gear Solid five is currently playable on modern

1660
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:55,039
platforms, but metal Gear Solid four
and peace Walker have only been available on

1661
01:50:55,079 --> 01:50:58,640
their native platforms. At one point
during development, middle Gear Solid four was

1662
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:01,800
allegedly running smoothly on Xbox three sixty, but it was never released from for

1663
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:08,319
that platform due to technical and practical
limitations. I think it's also because Sony

1664
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:13,760
locked it down. Yeah, okay, listen, they are going to do

1665
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:16,000
a volume two. They called this
one volume one, and you can't do

1666
01:51:16,039 --> 01:51:19,399
a volume two without including metal Gear
Solid Floor. That's what really matters here,

1667
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:21,119
right, Dan, What do you
think? Yes, yeah, hure

1668
01:51:21,159 --> 01:51:25,479
percent, that's the one, and
it's honestly, I think it's it's a

1669
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:27,680
really, really great game. I
know a lot of people will find it

1670
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:30,119
polarizing, but uh, it's it's
it's a shame that you have to hook

1671
01:51:30,199 --> 01:51:32,960
up a shoot PS three to play
it. So, yes, that's kind

1672
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:40,239
of why I don't consider it a
main line. You just say whatever you

1673
01:51:40,239 --> 01:51:43,399
want on a podcast. Uh,
you know, it's just like a personal

1674
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:46,239
thing that I've made and therefore is
canon. Now, I just don't see

1675
01:51:46,279 --> 01:51:48,239
it that way. I don't know
it makes sense. Yeah, yeah,

1676
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,119
and when you can explain it like
that, of course it's hard to argue

1677
01:51:51,199 --> 01:51:55,800
look back. Yeah, it could
include anything to you. So I mean,

1678
01:51:55,840 --> 01:52:00,800
obviously those three games I think are
it's ghost Babble. Okay, I

1679
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:03,359
think that's right too. I think
those games really fleshes it out. But

1680
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:09,199
if they released it with just you
know, four, five and peace Walker,

1681
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:12,000
that's that would qualify as the volume
two to me, and they can

1682
01:52:12,039 --> 01:52:15,159
get away with that. I think
sure, hundred percent. I would love

1683
01:52:15,199 --> 01:52:17,600
to see you play Metal or Solid
four. It would be hilarious to see

1684
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:21,079
you play it not knowing what happens
in like two or three, because that'd

1685
01:52:21,119 --> 01:52:26,760
be fun. We've only played one, right, I've only played one.

1686
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:30,680
In five really liked five. I
love one. You going from one to

1687
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:36,119
four? That that sounds hilarious to
that. All right, this, if

1688
01:52:36,119 --> 01:52:39,319
this comes out, we'll definitely do
it, but maybe we'll find rates and

1689
01:52:39,319 --> 01:52:43,960
do it before that too. The
only one Bianca has played, And so

1690
01:52:44,039 --> 01:52:46,800
I cannot imagine having no context of
like even who solid Snig is and then

1691
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:50,520
just playing the most batshit game on
the planet. And I don't really remember

1692
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:54,680
the story of one, but I
could, like I play one, watch

1693
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:59,039
a watch. You can beat one
pretty quickly, collection, so you should

1694
01:52:59,119 --> 01:53:00,920
just do one and we go to
four. Okay, cool, all right,

1695
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,960
that's that's what we should do.
That's fantasy. That's like watching Star

1696
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:10,640
Wars in like not chronological order,
but like numbered order. At this point,

1697
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:14,119
watching a chronological order would be insane
too. Can you do that to

1698
01:53:14,199 --> 01:53:16,159
a person? Like? Should should
you do that to someone under thirty?

1699
01:53:16,199 --> 01:53:19,560
Like make them watch one through nine? Like please? No? Yeah,

1700
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:24,760
but if you like include all the
bullshit side like Disney shows and stuff like

1701
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:26,640
that, you've got a whole bunch
of stuff you got to put in there.

1702
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:31,239
Fucking obi wan. Okay, okay, how we're good. That's colors

1703
01:53:31,279 --> 01:53:34,039
rebels, fine, I'm fine with
those at this point. I've actually been

1704
01:53:34,079 --> 01:53:38,640
really enjoying rebels for what I've seen
it obi Wan is a crime. It

1705
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:42,600
is kind of funny that like someone
under twenty like you just can't have,

1706
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:45,760
like you just can't ingest st Wars
in like a logical way. It's just

1707
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:49,560
like it's there now, you know. It's well, I'm gonna present a

1708
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:56,800
similar thing for someone under twenty five
or someone that has never experienced the Lord

1709
01:53:56,840 --> 01:54:00,880
of the Rings series. Do you
start them with the hobbit it? I

1710
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,359
don't know, absolutely not. You
don't start them with a hobbit. And

1711
01:54:03,359 --> 01:54:06,000
then Dan has a good point to
take on this. You just love Lord

1712
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:09,760
of the Rings over there, what
do you think? No, they are

1713
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:13,279
all very boring, so you just
don't don't watch them, is the answer.

1714
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:17,840
You value your time more than that. You make them read what's the

1715
01:54:18,079 --> 01:54:24,439
Silmarillion? Yes, and then you
like spin them around four thousand times and

1716
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:28,800
in the woods. Yeah. And
then just like you know, I'm so

1717
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:32,000
glad you Return of the Key is
like terribly busy all the time that she

1718
01:54:32,239 --> 01:54:36,720
doesn't jump in and just like Engine, he's always a thread. So I

1719
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:43,520
would love those poppins from Lucy to
defend Lord of the Rings. Real Quick

1720
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:47,119
VGC just posted a Modern Warfare three
p S five slim bundle has been spotted

1721
01:54:47,119 --> 01:54:51,680
in the wild, so that's happening
as well. Pairing that system up with

1722
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:57,880
Modern Warfare at spider Man probably gonna
sell very well this holiday. Okay,

1723
01:54:58,079 --> 01:55:00,039
last two stories here, here's some
fun ones. We've had all the bad

1724
01:55:00,119 --> 01:55:05,159
stories. Let's have some fun news. Numbskull releases cologne based on metal Gear

1725
01:55:05,279 --> 01:55:11,199
Solid franchise. To coincide with the
release of metal Gear Solid Master Collection Volume

1726
01:55:11,239 --> 01:55:15,680
one. Numbskull has released a limited
edition unisex cologne inspired by the game's iconic

1727
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:18,960
location of Shadow Moses Island. Haven't
you want to always wanted to smell like

1728
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:23,319
Shadow Moses Island? I know kinda
yeah, I think I already do kind

1729
01:55:23,319 --> 01:55:27,399
of smell like that. Though I'm
okay with this. I there's something about

1730
01:55:27,439 --> 01:55:30,359
like, uh, you know,
yeah, I want to know what this

1731
01:55:30,399 --> 01:55:33,279
smells like. I want to know
what I was initially very skeptical about this,

1732
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:38,800
but gamers are notorious for smelling bad. Yeah, I'd rather them smell

1733
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:43,960
like an island than a gamer.
Yes, absolutely, definitely all getting like

1734
01:55:44,279 --> 01:55:47,319
I know that's the joke about cons
and events, but like, it's pretty

1735
01:55:47,359 --> 01:55:53,439
crazy that there's not been like one
Colonne or you know, uh scented Aroma

1736
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:56,680
company to be like, hey,
we know it's tough. Hey you know

1737
01:55:57,159 --> 01:56:02,079
I made a ww F Colone once. Oh I'm just yes fan. Ever

1738
01:56:02,159 --> 01:56:06,600
since yes, wow, Well they
stopped making the Colone grub. That's why

1739
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:13,720
they start smelling bad again. A
Numbskull has released three previous video game colognes.

1740
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:15,359
Have you guys looked at this?
If you haven't, don't, Oh

1741
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:18,439
what are they? I must know? I don't want you to guess.

1742
01:56:18,479 --> 01:56:26,479
Give me just some gases. That's
like warmish island. Oh really, fuck,

1743
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:31,319
you're like warmish There. I spoiled
myself. I looked jumping flash.

1744
01:56:32,399 --> 01:56:38,880
I would if it's warm to crack. What is it like like a ratcheting

1745
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:43,560
clank? You like you're getting a
little bit cooler crash bandicoots. I am

1746
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:48,640
cool? Jesus Christ, what the
fuck? I'm upset by looking at all

1747
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:54,279
of these. Okay, there's three
different ones, and they're they're very different,

1748
01:56:54,319 --> 01:56:58,039
but they are all Sega. So
there you go. Oh so there's

1749
01:56:58,079 --> 01:57:10,039
SNA cologne. Yes, how fast
smell like blueberry? Yeah? Blueberries two

1750
01:57:10,039 --> 01:57:13,720
more and they're nothing like Sonic,
but they are very alike. But you

1751
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:16,479
know what I think would be a
good cologne, Samba di Amico. Oh

1752
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:24,159
yeah, I can smell a little
spicy, you know, absolutely Sho Moo

1753
01:57:24,399 --> 01:57:29,079
Shoin Move cologne and yeah Kuza cologne. Oh yeah, just makes sense.

1754
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:32,039
Definitely makes sense for sure. I
feel like I can smell that game like

1755
01:57:32,199 --> 01:57:38,159
Ki you probably smells great pop collar
and then you see yea absolutely. Let

1756
01:57:38,159 --> 01:57:41,920
me do a quick poll here,
who do you think out of all the

1757
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:45,880
wrestlers I worked with at w E, who do you think had the strongest

1758
01:57:46,319 --> 01:57:50,199
Let's say it's a clone smell.
It's definitely like who do you think is

1759
01:57:50,479 --> 01:57:59,840
bathing in cologne? Like you will
smell him coming, miss dan uh.

1760
01:58:00,119 --> 01:58:08,279
Corey Graves the Godfather, Ah okay, all right, yeah he runs the

1761
01:58:08,319 --> 01:58:12,880
strip club. He smells like like, oh my god club. Hell yeah,

1762
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:15,039
you don't into bathrooms. Like thirty
minutes after he left and there was

1763
01:58:15,159 --> 01:58:23,159
like he's still in here, all
right. Finally Blizzard is giving away a

1764
01:58:23,239 --> 01:58:30,920
Diablo themed PC that's liquid cooled with
real human blood. No no, no,

1765
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:32,079
no, no no no, we
don't need to do this. We

1766
01:58:32,079 --> 01:58:36,199
don't need to do this. We're
running the promotion called Blood Harvest, where

1767
01:58:36,279 --> 01:58:42,359
US citizens can donate blood to win
a custom piece he infused with real human

1768
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:46,359
blood. People need that blood,
don't they'll cool my blood there? Bad?

1769
01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:51,880
Alright's gone stale? Yeah, kids
do that with a They did it

1770
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:55,479
with a comic book, right,
like they put their blood in it.

1771
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:59,479
Yeah, like the ink or something
like. Yeah, this wasn't real.

1772
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:03,600
Just told me it was red water, like red dyed water. That would

1773
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:08,319
have been better. The PC will
include high end components and will be themed

1774
01:59:08,319 --> 01:59:11,920
after the Diablo game series. Yeah, we get it. In game items

1775
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:15,319
will also be unlocked this more blood
is donated the campaign and Capane has already

1776
01:59:15,319 --> 01:59:19,079
reached twenty seven percent of its goal. Why did they do human blood and

1777
01:59:19,119 --> 01:59:25,039
not like pig blood? I don't
understand or red water? Yes too,

1778
01:59:25,159 --> 01:59:27,760
of course, Jen, But you
reminds me of a thing with the Yeah,

1779
01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:30,920
little naz X try to do something
with like blood and shoes, right,

1780
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:32,760
whatever happened with that? Was there
a backlash? There was a backlash.

1781
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:35,319
I think Nike was like, please
don't do that, and then I

1782
01:59:35,399 --> 01:59:38,640
don't think I think a Little nas
X was like, all right, I

1783
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:42,560
won't you should be able to do
that? Is blood also like a good

1784
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:45,279
coolant? Yeah, that's what it
was supposed to keep you hot? Like,

1785
01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:50,680
yeah, that's what I think is
like hot blood cool. Yeah,

1786
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:56,359
I don't know. They probably are
mixing it together with some other stuff with

1787
01:59:56,800 --> 02:00:00,199
keep it liquid and actually make it
work as a coolant. Marcus, the

1788
02:00:00,399 --> 02:00:06,359
blood is human cooling. Oh man, Okay, yeah, hey, knock

1789
02:00:06,399 --> 02:00:11,359
yourselves out. I'm good. I'm
good on this. I'll just donate blood

1790
02:00:11,359 --> 02:00:14,600
for the hell of it. It's
so gross and I love the horror spooky

1791
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:17,840
stuff, and this is terrible.
Listen, have fun, though, Knock

1792
02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:21,279
yourselves out. Jan I'm done with
the news. I'm handing the show back

1793
02:00:21,279 --> 02:00:25,000
over to you. Every time we're
about to go to a break. Today,

1794
02:00:25,079 --> 02:00:28,640
it's just I just feel iky and
I feel gross. Now it's blood

1795
02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:31,800
now. Before it was weird interesting
takes, but at least Dan was willing

1796
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:36,560
to look past that. I can't
look past this blood. I'm gonna need

1797
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:42,079
to take a shower. We'll be
break well. See breaks done, he's

1798
02:00:42,119 --> 02:00:47,079
done, he's rattled blood. Why
all right, We'll be back with emails

1799
02:00:47,159 --> 02:00:50,960
shout outs, and then we'll end
this goddang show. We'll see you have

1800
02:00:50,960 --> 02:01:03,039
to this quick break or break BombCast. The Giant bomb dot com is the

1801
02:01:03,079 --> 02:01:08,960
email address to send your emails to. Please don't send any emails related to

1802
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:14,119
blood. Yeah, stop sending your
blood through email. Just just don't do

1803
02:01:14,279 --> 02:01:17,520
that. Please You like the I
think I like the smell like elden ring

1804
02:01:19,239 --> 02:01:23,119
that has like a nice musk to
it, right, yeah, yeah,

1805
02:01:23,279 --> 02:01:28,279
smell like twisted metal. Yeah that's
just what. Smell like chameleon twist yeah

1806
02:01:28,359 --> 02:01:31,840
yeah yeah, yeah, like lining
and stuff. Yeah yeah, what do

1807
02:01:31,880 --> 02:01:39,399
you think? Uh, Maco from
or Maco from uh Final Fantasy seven smells

1808
02:01:39,439 --> 02:01:45,039
like I feel like it smells cold. Oh it's like uh, it's like

1809
02:01:45,079 --> 02:01:48,279
the green gushers. Yeah, it's
like green. It smells green and cold.

1810
02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:51,359
Yeah. I'm not going to describe
further what that means. And I'm

1811
02:01:51,359 --> 02:01:56,600
also smells like radioactive Russia is what
it smells like. I don't know,

1812
02:01:56,880 --> 02:02:00,079
Okay, okay, uh hey,
Special shouts out to you the listener at

1813
02:02:00,079 --> 02:02:04,800
home. You've actually been getting an
obscene amount of emails, and I appreciate

1814
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:09,319
that I read every single one.
Sometimes you don't have the time to get

1815
02:02:09,359 --> 02:02:13,199
to those specific emails. But I
appreciate them. I read them nonetheless.

1816
02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:19,239
First email comes from splotch. Hey, if you arrange the letters in kurbl,

1817
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:26,720
you get back color kisses Splodge,
thank you. I'm wrong. Well

1818
02:02:26,760 --> 02:02:31,680
that fucking rules and spelled all fucked
up. It's cool. Yeah, it's

1819
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:34,239
like I want to play that curbl
too. Again. I haven't touched it

1820
02:02:34,279 --> 02:02:36,399
since it came out. I know
it was released kind of early. It's

1821
02:02:36,399 --> 02:02:40,439
an early access. Was that this
year? It was this year? Yea

1822
02:02:40,720 --> 02:02:44,399
Hey, I got another question of
was it that this year? Backlar when

1823
02:02:44,399 --> 02:02:49,199
you play through Eternal Darkness? Was
that this year? There's no way I

1824
02:02:49,319 --> 02:02:54,840
better not be I don't know,
Jen, I want to say it has

1825
02:02:54,960 --> 02:03:00,079
to be. Ye, it's fucking
it's fun. I'm not total one,

1826
02:03:00,359 --> 02:03:04,800
it's fucking It was absolutely this year. Episode one was August thirty, first

1827
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:16,319
of last year. Last yeary time, it's a valuable thing. Wait the

1828
02:03:16,319 --> 02:03:19,960
pendulum swings. Wait a minute,
Wait a minute, wait a minute.

1829
02:03:20,039 --> 02:03:25,720
We've been at fandom for I thought
a year. Yeah, we were still

1830
02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:30,560
under started re adventures. Yeahah,
in our last the final episode, final

1831
02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:35,640
episode is January twelfth this year.
Yes, what do you have like a

1832
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:41,039
fucking private Wikipedia. You keep I
don't know. We posted these videos on

1833
02:03:41,079 --> 02:03:45,319
the Internet. Okay, okay,
buddy, whatever you say there please,

1834
02:03:45,359 --> 02:03:48,279
it's called Wikipedia. Come on,
get with the times. It's a cool

1835
02:03:48,279 --> 02:03:51,760
thing. That's a cool joke that
had the Internet's making right now. Oh

1836
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:56,479
man, that's huh okay, anyway, take it away, Jane. Next

1837
02:03:56,520 --> 02:04:00,880
email comes from Aaron. Greetings bombers. Aaron here from Steven's Point, Wisconsin,

1838
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:03,840
going two for two, shooting shot
at an email. Hat trick,

1839
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:06,640
Jan, that's got to be worth
podcast points or a badge or something.

1840
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:12,760
You know what you get a commemorative
podcast plate. I've been listening closely as

1841
02:04:12,760 --> 02:04:15,439
to what questions always flow to the
top to the surface, so hopefully this

1842
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:19,039
surgical strike will put me over the
top in the leaderboards. Uh oh,

1843
02:04:19,359 --> 02:04:24,239
I'm what most people would call a
pretty normal person when it comes to eating

1844
02:04:24,319 --> 02:04:27,760
various foods. I may have some
quarks that people bat an eye at,

1845
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:31,039
but only if you have caused outward
hostility amongst friends, family, and even

1846
02:04:31,119 --> 02:04:34,000
my significant other. I know when
it comes to food, you guys have

1847
02:04:34,079 --> 02:04:39,119
nothing but concrete, undisputed conclusions.
So I hope you can put this one

1848
02:04:39,199 --> 02:04:42,920
to bed for me. Science.
Yeah, provided a tall glass of milk

1849
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:46,560
is available. What is the best
way to eat an oreo? I apparently

1850
02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:50,960
have a monstrous approach where I'll bite
the oreo or, in some desperate cases,

1851
02:04:51,119 --> 02:04:55,079
place the whole thing in my mouth, wherein the milk is sipped,

1852
02:04:55,359 --> 02:05:00,199
swished once sometimes twice to soften the
lot, then shoot to completion. This

1853
02:05:00,239 --> 02:05:02,720
is my rational approach, as I
tend to have a negative reaction to debris

1854
02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:08,199
in my drinks, and rarely are
you getting away uh clean with a dunk

1855
02:05:08,279 --> 02:05:12,000
from those creamy chocolate bastards. I
figure, why not bring the milk to

1856
02:05:12,119 --> 02:05:15,880
the cookie humbly await your judgment,
best wishes, Aaron. I don't know

1857
02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:20,520
if I've ever dipped oreos and milk. Have you eaten oreos? Yeah?

1858
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:29,640
Yeah, yeah, you oreos and
Nacho cheese, but not milk. Hundreds

1859
02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:32,279
of oreos and Nato cheese. I
think zero and milk. It's just like

1860
02:05:32,680 --> 02:05:39,680
I don't know if I've ever taken
a walk. Sure I've ever put a

1861
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:43,680
hat on? I mean I don't
very often. Sure. I don't think

1862
02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:48,880
I've seen dead with the car.
His head's too big for hats. It's

1863
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:55,840
you've had cookies and cream ice cream
before. I love the flavor cookies and

1864
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:59,479
cream. That's delicious. Yeah,
well that's oreos and milk. Yeah cool,

1865
02:05:59,520 --> 02:06:02,560
that's a cool milk and cream.
Uh. I think, like you

1866
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:08,800
see these people that are doing this
interesting. I'm just willing to skip past

1867
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:12,600
it, skip past it. I
was gonna skip past that. I can't

1868
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:16,399
believe chance following in, go what
do you say? He said, malcus

1869
02:06:16,399 --> 02:06:24,439
and cream? Dan answers, yes, malcus in cream. All right,

1870
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:29,960
we're gonna cream. I've never had
like sour cream cream cheese? You never

1871
02:06:30,039 --> 02:06:32,359
had? What is just? Like? Shoot cream? What is that?

1872
02:06:32,439 --> 02:06:36,359
We're the dumbest bitches on the planet
because all we do is we go,

1873
02:06:36,479 --> 02:06:40,079
oh, it's a weird, funny
hole in the ground, we should jump

1874
02:06:40,119 --> 02:06:43,079
into it, and we just do
it over and over and over again,

1875
02:06:43,119 --> 02:06:46,039
and we don't learn a goddamn thing. We're the dumbest mother What is cream

1876
02:06:46,119 --> 02:06:51,600
for? So I've seen a lot
of people eat oreos and what they do

1877
02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:56,279
is they stick a fork in the
creamy part and then use that to like

1878
02:06:56,359 --> 02:07:00,199
get big right now, I know, So they do that and they stick

1879
02:07:00,199 --> 02:07:02,119
it into the milk like that,
so they don't think it all mess like

1880
02:07:02,199 --> 02:07:04,600
drizzling cream on your chicken, like
I've really like, what is the like

1881
02:07:04,840 --> 02:07:11,520
use case for cream? I'm just
imagining you really drunk or just fucked up

1882
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:15,439
in a robe in a parking lot
of a hotel, screaming what is cream

1883
02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:17,600
for? Until something like I've never
once. I don't know if I've seen

1884
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:24,079
cream. Dan it's used for one
thing and one thing only, pro creation.

1885
02:07:25,039 --> 02:07:29,439
Sure it's next to email food wise, I'm serious. Does it cut?

1886
02:07:29,479 --> 02:07:30,680
I don't know, white container it
comes in. I don't know what

1887
02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:33,159
you put them on top of.
You can I don't know you can make

1888
02:07:33,199 --> 02:07:39,439
cream by like whipping milk like it's
milk. Cream is milk adding? Why

1889
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:43,079
not just have milk then, because
you needed it needs to be like fattened

1890
02:07:43,159 --> 02:07:45,840
up for certain for certain recipes,
or it's a little more syrup profiles.

1891
02:07:46,399 --> 02:07:49,640
It's it's it does have a difference
like milk. It's just just milk.

1892
02:07:50,079 --> 02:07:54,000
No, okay, I'm just call
it milk, call it fat milk.

1893
02:07:54,319 --> 02:07:57,119
No, I mean, because then
there's the whole thing of whole milk and

1894
02:07:57,199 --> 02:08:00,439
two percent right there's and by the
way, that's a racket because it all

1895
02:08:00,439 --> 02:08:01,960
tastes exactly this. No it doesn't, Yes, it does. As you

1896
02:08:03,039 --> 02:08:07,079
do things to me, how do
you how think you skim milk and whole

1897
02:08:07,119 --> 02:08:11,920
milk identical one of them? Like
waysless or something that is worth that is

1898
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:18,119
now I'm broking. We broke.
It's the exact same thing. It all

1899
02:08:18,159 --> 02:08:20,800
just says the exact same ship.
Just regular coke taste the same asst No,

1900
02:08:22,119 --> 02:08:28,680
regular coke tastes the same as diet
coke. As listen you by you

1901
02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:33,760
saying this, you therefore invalidate any
opinion you have about taste, about what's

1902
02:08:33,800 --> 02:08:39,600
good. Like we've established this all
right, so why even have an opinion?

1903
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:41,960
Then why can't we just continue on
with the fucking you're saying. It's

1904
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:48,960
indiscernible to me, like a coke
a full gimmick pepsi tastes the same as

1905
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:56,439
a coke zero. That meant in
a sentence before it's insertible to me.

1906
02:08:58,359 --> 02:09:01,520
We're inside the whole to say it. And he's like so afraid, like

1907
02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:05,600
I'm not giving into this ship.
I'm not gonna say to me. But

1908
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:07,760
he did, he like gave it
just exactly. He left the door open

1909
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:11,560
just a little bit. I don't
think you're lying to me. If you

1910
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:16,199
tell me you taste the difference between
coke and DIETPEPSI but bring you a great

1911
02:09:16,239 --> 02:09:20,279
deal of trouble. Then I feel
like you should. I feel like you

1912
02:09:20,359 --> 02:09:24,560
should be like, oh wow,
I'm this podcast with you. If I'm

1913
02:09:24,640 --> 02:09:28,920
you, I'm bummed out because I'm
literally missing out on a fifth of all

1914
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:31,720
of the senses. I'm just like, well, I guess I taste was

1915
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:35,399
better. Yeah, of course,
Hey that you lack the ability to do

1916
02:09:35,439 --> 02:09:39,000
that, I think you. I
think this is just more of your mainline

1917
02:09:39,000 --> 02:09:43,920
bullshit anything. I want you to
think about and be proud that you've been

1918
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:46,720
on three weeks worth of the email
segment trick, but I want you to

1919
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:52,600
think about what you've what you've done
to us right now. Yea and world.

1920
02:09:52,680 --> 02:09:56,399
So that is a weird way to
eat oreos, my friend, I'm

1921
02:09:56,479 --> 02:10:01,680
with Aaron on this. Uh,
I did the bumbles in my drinks bothers

1922
02:10:01,720 --> 02:10:05,640
me. I will bite an oriol
put the whole thing in my mouth to

1923
02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:07,720
taking it apart or dunking was fun
when I was a kid. I'm not

1924
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:09,680
saying it's four kids. I know
people get a hung up on that,

1925
02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:16,199
but I but I put away childish
things as I've become a man. Though,

1926
02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:20,600
here's a little here's a freaky little
compromise. I'm willing to I'm a

1927
02:10:20,600 --> 02:10:22,520
cross this bridge with you, Aaron, Let's hear it. Come come with

1928
02:10:22,520 --> 02:10:26,439
me, my arms around you.
We're talking here. Get less milk than

1929
02:10:26,479 --> 02:10:30,119
you think you need, right,
don't don't fill up halfway, get quarter

1930
02:10:30,199 --> 02:10:33,640
milk. Right, crush up all
the oreos, pre crush them, just

1931
02:10:33,680 --> 02:10:35,800
throw them in there and then drink
that drink the slop. Well, I

1932
02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:39,000
mean you could like mix together and
basically make put some ice cream in there

1933
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:45,399
and then you got we're really just
describing like overnight oats oreos, like,

1934
02:10:45,520 --> 02:10:50,600
let's do that. Holy shit,
I'm gonna I'm gonna delete this so we

1935
02:10:50,600 --> 02:10:52,399
could do this all right, Yeah, I'm into that. I'll do that

1936
02:10:52,399 --> 02:10:56,560
with almond milk, I mean oat
milk. Jan everyone listening right now,

1937
02:10:56,600 --> 02:11:01,000
take off your headphones, all right, take your headphones off because we're having

1938
02:11:01,039 --> 02:11:03,560
a secret planning meeting right now.
This is how we become rich, all

1939
02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:07,199
right. This is our brand.
This is our this is our alba altas,

1940
02:11:07,600 --> 02:11:11,479
this is our alcohol. I do
sympathize with the debris in the drink,

1941
02:11:11,600 --> 02:11:16,239
like it took me the longest time
to find orange juice. Orange juice

1942
02:11:16,239 --> 02:11:22,079
with put your head like acceptable,
you know, so I I sympathize with

1943
02:11:22,159 --> 02:11:26,319
that, but I'm not mad at
a little bit of oreo what's overnight oats?

1944
02:11:26,359 --> 02:11:28,479
Like, I've never done it.
I think I have a pretty good

1945
02:11:28,479 --> 02:11:31,159
idea what it is. But yeah, so the grub you explain it first,

1946
02:11:31,159 --> 02:11:37,039
what you think they are. Yeah, you put something like you have

1947
02:11:37,439 --> 02:11:43,159
a bunch of oats, like and
you even in the fridge, and then

1948
02:11:43,239 --> 02:11:48,079
like it like coagulates, well it
yeah, I don't know if coagulates the

1949
02:11:48,119 --> 02:11:50,199
right word, but it absorbs the
milk like it is milk. Okay,

1950
02:11:50,239 --> 02:11:54,920
all right, I use I use
milk alternatives. I use alt milks.

1951
02:11:54,119 --> 02:11:58,039
Okay. So it's not just dry
oats, right, No. They start

1952
02:11:58,119 --> 02:12:01,000
off you buy them like rolled oats
or whatever, Like I get the TJ

1953
02:12:01,159 --> 02:12:05,199
one that's like all the ancient grain
things that's all mixed up together, and

1954
02:12:05,239 --> 02:12:09,960
then I do I mix it up
with like peanut butter maybe like the tiniest

1955
02:12:09,960 --> 02:12:15,079
little bit of like chocolate drizzling in
there. She is all over that ship,

1956
02:12:15,319 --> 02:12:18,720
you know ry spices. Yeah,
you basically and the overnight is you

1957
02:12:18,760 --> 02:12:20,760
know, it's like a slumber party
and they all just get together. It's

1958
02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:24,600
like overnight. Yeah, okay,
and then it takes overnight for to soak

1959
02:12:24,680 --> 02:12:30,239
in. Yeah. I asked because
one time meet me and Stephanie back before

1960
02:12:30,279 --> 02:12:35,960
she's my wife. Thank you.
We oversuiting my parents, and right next

1961
02:12:35,960 --> 02:12:37,960
to my dad's chair, you know
dads they have chairs. Right next to

1962
02:12:37,960 --> 02:12:43,159
my dad's chair was just a cup
of dry oats, and she got she's

1963
02:12:43,199 --> 02:12:45,880
been fixated on this for years and
years where he's like, your dad just

1964
02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:48,560
eats oats. What's he doing.
I'm like, I didn't see him eat

1965
02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:50,960
the oats, but they were next
to his chair. They did look like

1966
02:12:50,960 --> 02:12:52,840
they had been dug dug into like
eating, and so I was like,

1967
02:12:52,920 --> 02:12:56,520
is that maybe he was doing some
overnight oats ship And it's like, no,

1968
02:12:56,520 --> 02:12:58,399
now those were just dry oats.
He was doing instant oats, which

1969
02:12:58,479 --> 02:13:03,079
is the opposite. Instantly in his
stomach they were becoming an oatmeal or something.

1970
02:13:03,159 --> 02:13:09,319
So I don't know. Still a
mystery, all right. Next email

1971
02:13:09,560 --> 02:13:15,560
comes from Ben the UK talking about
a sensitive hot topic. We're talking about

1972
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:20,359
AI folks. Ben from the UK
rights dear bombcasters, thank you for making

1973
02:13:20,399 --> 02:13:24,159
such great podcasts for so many years. My question is about fake AI?

1974
02:13:24,319 --> 02:13:26,880
Are using AI as a buzzword?
For a few years now, I've used

1975
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:31,640
an electric toothbrush that has a companion's
smartphone app. If you have the app

1976
02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:35,600
open while brushing, the phone detects
the gyroscopic position and angle of your brush

1977
02:13:35,760 --> 02:13:39,319
and shows you which areas of your
teeth you adequately brushed when I replaced my

1978
02:13:39,359 --> 02:13:43,640
toothbrush. Recently, this feature has
been flashily rebranded as an AI brushing Assistant,

1979
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:48,119
despite no change in functionality. I
often use this as an example when

1980
02:13:48,159 --> 02:13:52,520
speaking to non techie people about what
AI means. My question to you is

1981
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:58,039
what example of fake AI, AIS
buzzword, et cetera do you think we'll

1982
02:13:58,039 --> 02:14:01,239
come to see in video games?
Of course, the situation is muddled somewhat

1983
02:14:01,239 --> 02:14:05,640
by the fact that players have been
using the term AI to refer to computer

1984
02:14:05,720 --> 02:14:09,479
controlled players for years high reguards been
in the UK. You know, I

1985
02:14:09,479 --> 02:14:13,279
would think that games are better than
this. They don't want to use that

1986
02:14:13,319 --> 02:14:18,640
AI buzzword. Oh it's but no, it's gonna happen. Yeah, yeah,

1987
02:14:18,640 --> 02:14:22,239
that sucks. I don't know.
I mean, is procedural generation?

1988
02:14:22,479 --> 02:14:28,760
Is that technically AI. I'd listen. I'm not great at like delineating between

1989
02:14:28,760 --> 02:14:31,760
these things. If someone called it, like, oh, AI leveled creation,

1990
02:14:33,640 --> 02:14:35,159
I would be like whatever, and
I would move on with my day.

1991
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:39,399
But we have a term for it, you know, proc gen procedural

1992
02:14:39,439 --> 02:14:45,479
generation. Probably just keep using that. Yeah, yeah, this doesn't I

1993
02:14:45,479 --> 02:14:48,199
mean, listen, buzzwords are gonna
buzzword. It's yeah, that's all,

1994
02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:52,680
like it's going to be a problem, but like, yeah, people should

1995
02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:56,199
be skeptical of all these things,
for sure. But at the same time,

1996
02:14:56,199 --> 02:14:58,840
it doesn't bother me too much.
So I just don't know what to

1997
02:14:58,079 --> 02:15:01,560
like. I can't put my stuff
in the mind of like a marketer to

1998
02:15:01,640 --> 02:15:05,279
imagine like what they would start using
it for that would rise to this level

1999
02:15:05,560 --> 02:15:09,560
of a two AI matchup making sure, Yeah, yeah, yeah that sounds

2000
02:15:09,600 --> 02:15:13,960
right, because yeah, you could
go skill based match making like AI match

2001
02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:16,079
partnering or something like that. Yeah, that stuff could definitely happen. Or

2002
02:15:16,119 --> 02:15:20,119
if you wanted to take over your
like skill point distribution, they could be

2003
02:15:20,199 --> 02:15:22,359
like, oh, you know AI, you know, make your build.

2004
02:15:22,640 --> 02:15:26,520
Okay, now I'm back on board. There you go. Yeah, instead

2005
02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:28,600
of watching someone play a game,
Hey, I just plays the game.

2006
02:15:30,159 --> 02:15:37,319
Mmm, I remember when HD had
this impenetrable presence where like they were putting

2007
02:15:37,319 --> 02:15:43,359
that ship on the back of pretty
much anything including like you know, windows

2008
02:15:43,760 --> 02:15:48,119
and uh like literal glass and things
that could not be HD, like a

2009
02:15:48,199 --> 02:15:52,800
vacuum or something like that has a
lot of pixels. Yeah, that's right,

2010
02:15:52,840 --> 02:15:56,840
and you'd have those HD glasses like
for old people. Yeah, I

2011
02:15:56,840 --> 02:15:58,800
remember those. We see that on
ESPN, the commercials for that. Yeah.

2012
02:16:01,239 --> 02:16:03,880
M all right, folks. We
did a little memory quiz on whether

2013
02:16:03,960 --> 02:16:09,319
or not we remembered a game that
was brought up, Cooper writes, and

2014
02:16:09,399 --> 02:16:13,479
again with another memory quiz. Hey, folks, glad to hear that you

2015
02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:16,640
all enjoyed the small quiz I gave
you last week. Backler asked me to

2016
02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:18,439
do another one for this week,
So here you go. All the games

2017
02:16:18,479 --> 02:16:24,119
here are from the PS three sixty
generation were sooner so twenty five to twenty

2018
02:16:24,119 --> 02:16:26,439
twenty three. Good luck. And
this is just as simple. Whether or

2019
02:16:26,479 --> 02:16:33,520
not you remember this Eternal Sonata.
Yes, the RPG, Yes, the

2020
02:16:33,520 --> 02:16:37,799
one about Chopin. And I remember
this more now because apparently it's the one

2021
02:16:37,440 --> 02:16:41,479
JRPG that Mike's brother likes and he
can never figure out why. He's like,

2022
02:16:41,479 --> 02:16:43,959
why do you like this chopon RPG, And he doesn't really have a

2023
02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:48,360
reason. He just does Ancestors the
Human Kind Odyssey Monkey Game. Yeah,

2024
02:16:48,479 --> 02:16:50,799
I like that lot. That's not
the monkey game. It's a monkey game.

2025
02:16:52,799 --> 02:16:56,159
Monkey game was Odyssey to the West. That game you're thinking different,

2026
02:16:56,239 --> 02:17:00,559
This is the actual two Monkeys games. No, No, this is not

2027
02:17:00,680 --> 02:17:03,680
like that, not that kind of
odyssey. This is like you start as

2028
02:17:03,760 --> 02:17:07,840
a basic primate and then you eventually
like evolved more like I'm thinking about the

2029
02:17:07,920 --> 02:17:11,440
character and who was just named monkey? Yes, I love this game because

2030
02:17:11,440 --> 02:17:16,079
it's a real weirdo of a game, very weird. Yes, and I

2031
02:17:16,120 --> 02:17:18,159
think it's probably off putting to most
people, but I'm like I always want

2032
02:17:18,200 --> 02:17:22,799
to go back and play more of
it. I love Ancestors Tokyo Jungle,

2033
02:17:22,239 --> 02:17:28,159
of course. No, L should
I Ascension of the Metatron. Yeah,

2034
02:17:28,319 --> 02:17:31,680
I mean I think you mean Shane
Bettenhausen's L should I essentially the Metatron?

2035
02:17:31,760 --> 02:17:35,360
Yes, this was like, uh
like a white background like game where like

2036
02:17:35,399 --> 02:17:43,079
you were like a figment of like
something right, Yes, platforming action stylish

2037
02:17:43,079 --> 02:17:50,200
action game. Yeah. Next,
greed Fall, Yeah, read full I

2038
02:17:50,280 --> 02:17:54,360
remember the name. I don't remember
what this game is like. This is

2039
02:17:54,399 --> 02:17:58,079
a for everything. This is like
an RPG, a computer RPG that came

2040
02:17:58,079 --> 02:18:01,319
out recently that was kind of in
between all these big ones, and people

2041
02:18:01,680 --> 02:18:05,719
were pretty hopeful for it, but
it kind of was like there wasn't much

2042
02:18:05,719 --> 02:18:11,879
to it. Vampire with a y
R. Yes, I remember that.

2043
02:18:11,120 --> 02:18:15,399
Was this the don't knod game?
I think it might have been. Let

2044
02:18:15,399 --> 02:18:20,159
me see that sounds right. Yeah, don't not is don't not like do

2045
02:18:20,319 --> 02:18:26,639
not move your head? I think
so, I guess what I mean,

2046
02:18:26,959 --> 02:18:31,639
like, don't nod to me?
Oh is that what it is? I

2047
02:18:31,680 --> 02:18:33,479
was about to nod to confirm,
but you told me not this weird?

2048
02:18:33,639 --> 02:18:41,639
Yeah, don't nod ruin her?
Yes, an it's a dual stick shooter

2049
02:18:41,760 --> 02:18:45,559
kind of thing. Uh. It's
pretty stylish, not not great, but

2050
02:18:45,639 --> 02:18:50,040
pretty good. Split second? Hell
yeah, building was it a It was

2051
02:18:50,040 --> 02:18:52,479
a power up racer right, yeah. It came out on the same time

2052
02:18:52,479 --> 02:18:56,239
as Blur, so there were like
two kind of arcade racers the game John

2053
02:18:56,319 --> 02:19:01,520
Drake. Split second Yeah, the
t O E M. Yeah, QT

2054
02:19:03,319 --> 02:19:05,840
art style. Are you taking pictures
of dogs or something? Yeah? That

2055
02:19:05,959 --> 02:19:09,879
is what that is. Yeah.
Yeah, And last on the list here

2056
02:19:11,440 --> 02:19:18,719
apb reloaded. Yes, what was
that GT A very ambitious kind of GTA

2057
02:19:18,959 --> 02:19:22,559
like that had a big online component
that wound up just not at all delivering

2058
02:19:22,559 --> 02:19:26,399
on the promises. That's right,
all right, thank you Cooper for that

2059
02:19:26,520 --> 02:19:31,200
email. A couple for those those
rules. Thank you A couple more here,

2060
02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:35,559
Uh Joe and Michigan writes and Wowie
Zowie bombers. It wasn't until this

2061
02:19:35,600 --> 02:19:41,319
morning that I realize it's to me
is no longer Mario. My son,

2062
02:19:41,479 --> 02:19:46,200
who was very into Mario is growing
up in a world where he'll presumably continue

2063
02:19:46,200 --> 02:19:48,799
to grow and be different from the
Mario of my childhood. What are some

2064
02:19:48,879 --> 02:19:52,200
healthy midlife pursuits. I've been thinking
about buying a boat since we moved out

2065
02:19:52,239 --> 02:19:54,760
to the lake, but it seems
like a lot of work much love.

2066
02:19:56,239 --> 02:20:00,719
Wait, so we're not talking about
Mario. No. I guess this happens

2067
02:20:00,719 --> 02:20:01,959
with emails all the time, where
they have a little tidbit out front and

2068
02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:07,000
then the question has nothing to do
with that. That's my favorite wild card.

2069
02:20:07,319 --> 02:20:09,520
Yeah, pursuits, don't do the
boat thing. That seems like so

2070
02:20:09,639 --> 02:20:16,399
much work. Just boats? Yeah, yeah, rent boat. I'm going

2071
02:20:16,440 --> 02:20:20,959
to say I'm doing like long walks
every day and like that's been a good

2072
02:20:20,959 --> 02:20:24,079
one. Yeah, hiking biking.
What is it? What's the name of

2073
02:20:24,120 --> 02:20:26,920
the app. There's a hiking app
that tells you the trails and all trails,

2074
02:20:28,079 --> 02:20:30,159
all trails. So yeah, we
were I just used this because we

2075
02:20:30,159 --> 02:20:31,760
were we were traveling to Hockeying Hills
and there's a bunch of great trails down

2076
02:20:31,799 --> 02:20:33,719
there. I used it, and
then I got home and I'm like laying

2077
02:20:33,760 --> 02:20:37,879
on my floor like being a piece
of ship, like I wonder if there's

2078
02:20:37,959 --> 02:20:41,079
trails around me, And of course
there are along a quarter of mile way

2079
02:20:41,120 --> 02:20:43,120
where trails everywhere, and it's like
five star rated. I'm like, this

2080
02:20:43,159 --> 02:20:46,440
is better than you the trails I
just went to on this trip I went

2081
02:20:46,479 --> 02:20:48,680
on. I'm like, go walk
this thing. So it's like hiking trails

2082
02:20:48,680 --> 02:20:52,840
are cool. Fully do it too, Like you can get in the bicycling

2083
02:20:52,879 --> 02:20:56,079
as well, like and get the
gear, but like get hiking shoes and

2084
02:20:56,120 --> 02:20:58,520
the fun little like walking sticks and
stuff like that. Make it a hobby

2085
02:20:58,639 --> 02:21:03,239
like that the way that's that's the
important thing, the healthy midlife pursuit is

2086
02:21:03,239 --> 02:21:07,879
yourself. Yeah, yeah, I
like that. Get better shoes, across

2087
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:11,520
the board. Don't keep wearing the
same shoes or brandish shoes you wore as

2088
02:21:11,559 --> 02:21:18,040
a kid or a young adult.
They're all out of business. Sorry,

2089
02:21:18,200 --> 02:21:26,120
sorry buckler. Okay, they still
make British Knights. Those they must someone

2090
02:21:26,159 --> 02:21:28,920
owns. Somebody owns that fucking brand. Someone must. We should, we

2091
02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:33,000
should get sponsored by British Knights,
just like Nickelodeon. Be sick. Oh,

2092
02:21:33,040 --> 02:21:37,520
everyone's rocking. I don't know how
you pronounce them. Is it hakka

2093
02:21:37,680 --> 02:21:41,840
or hokah? What are they?
What are those that brandy? Hokah?

2094
02:21:41,000 --> 02:21:45,840
Yeah, everyone's rocking that ship.
Now. They're they're good. They're like

2095
02:21:45,959 --> 02:21:52,840
a slightly trendy your new balance,
good shoes, good everyday shoes. I

2096
02:21:52,000 --> 02:21:58,239
was at a bot mitzvah a little
while ago, and all the kids,

2097
02:21:58,239 --> 02:22:05,159
now, uh wear Jordan's with dresses. Oh yeah, that's that's that's it,

2098
02:22:05,479 --> 02:22:07,200
that's it. I didn't know that. I had not been anywhere where

2099
02:22:07,239 --> 02:22:11,719
someone under like twenty was like,
where's that come from? Jan who's like

2100
02:22:11,760 --> 02:22:15,280
the progenitor of that? Look right
now? You know the Lydia Rodriguez or

2101
02:22:15,319 --> 02:22:20,159
whatever. She doesn't wear Jay's,
she'd never be gone dead. It looks

2102
02:22:20,200 --> 02:22:22,639
for the brand. I don't know. I don't know, I don't know.

2103
02:22:22,680 --> 02:22:26,680
I get where? Where? Why
are we asking? Yeah? Sure,

2104
02:22:26,000 --> 02:22:30,440
where is it? You're you're you
like it? The youth loved the

2105
02:22:30,520 --> 02:22:33,200
J's. Part of it is a
style, like a style and status thing

2106
02:22:33,280 --> 02:22:37,440
right totally. Because the people who
are wearing Chucks didn't get asked to dance

2107
02:22:41,079 --> 02:22:46,559
No my hakeemlaja shoes once at school. That's fucked up. It was Jordan's

2108
02:22:46,559 --> 02:22:52,680
and and Commerce Chucks like that's where
the two sneakers of choice. It was.

2109
02:22:52,840 --> 02:22:54,600
I I'd never seen anything like it, but I'm like, oh,

2110
02:22:54,639 --> 02:22:58,079
this makes perfect sense. Like dress
shoes suck. They're not comfortable. Yeah,

2111
02:22:58,120 --> 02:23:01,319
dress shoes you suck when you think
about it. Our feet aren't meant

2112
02:23:01,319 --> 02:23:07,479
to be shaped and crammed into that
slim ass shoes. What pre co invented

2113
02:23:07,520 --> 02:23:09,840
heels? Like, get out of
here? Where are you guys at with

2114
02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:13,399
shoes these days? Because I was
for a hot minute, there were definitely

2115
02:23:13,440 --> 02:23:16,879
trying to save money. Was just
like getting a shitty throwaway pair from Walmart

2116
02:23:18,040 --> 02:23:20,879
or Target. Whenever I like,
oh these shoes are wearing down, I'm

2117
02:23:20,879 --> 02:23:24,280
at Target. I'll get another thirty
five dollars pair of shoes. I recently

2118
02:23:24,319 --> 02:23:28,959
did get a pair of Adidas,
but before we before some I got.

2119
02:23:28,200 --> 02:23:33,879
I got Adidas. I can't say
words. Uh, and I'm aware for

2120
02:23:33,920 --> 02:23:37,239
it. And they're they're holding up
and they're like even like easier to clean,

2121
02:23:37,719 --> 02:23:41,639
and they seem it seems like I'm
getting my money's worth, is what

2122
02:23:41,639 --> 02:23:46,159
I'm kind of Adidas. I don't
fucking I understand. Okay, there you

2123
02:23:46,159 --> 02:23:50,239
go, I thank you, thank
you for absolutely they were like twice as

2124
02:23:50,239 --> 02:23:54,159
expensive as the shoe I normally buyed
basically got it. But I'm pretty much

2125
02:23:54,239 --> 02:24:03,680
an exclusive Ultra Boost Adidas person.
I need I need this sockos ULTRAO is

2126
02:24:03,719 --> 02:24:09,520
just like the heel material and like
the knit sort of sock outer material.

2127
02:24:09,680 --> 02:24:13,719
I've got feet that need to breathe, I guess, I don't know,

2128
02:24:13,799 --> 02:24:18,760
and I need that softness on the
outside. So I almost only wear like

2129
02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:26,719
Ultra Booster. No complaints, no
complaints. They're my favorite sneaker. Let

2130
02:24:26,799 --> 02:24:31,639
me tell you, let me let
me convince you to join the congregation of

2131
02:24:31,840 --> 02:24:41,639
crocs. It's just not happening.
They're expensive though socks, yes, I

2132
02:24:41,719 --> 02:24:45,360
understand, but it's a premium that
you're paying for that adapts to your feet.

2133
02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:48,040
Crocs, let me tell you.
Let me tell you, folks,

2134
02:24:48,479 --> 02:24:52,840
they'll reinvigorate. They'll reinvigorate those little
bad boys you got at the bottom.

2135
02:24:54,040 --> 02:24:58,879
These are Birkstocks. What I'm saying
is Birkenstocks or crocs, Birkin crocs,

2136
02:24:58,840 --> 02:25:03,440
st Ox or crocs, that old
classic. Let me tell you. Tam

2137
02:25:03,440 --> 02:25:05,879
tried these on it the Boma thon
last year and I was like, oh,

2138
02:25:05,959 --> 02:25:11,079
mate, where'd you get these from? In heaven? I would French

2139
02:25:11,079 --> 02:25:16,239
Stewart react to them? Oh,
cheering, these little they look like potatoes

2140
02:25:16,280 --> 02:25:22,840
for your feet following me around.
Wow, I can put these on it,

2141
02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:28,040
just slip them on. Listen the
triangle, the cross, the crocs

2142
02:25:28,120 --> 02:25:33,120
stuff. There's something about it.
And again this comes from a place of

2143
02:25:33,159 --> 02:25:37,799
pure judgment, folks. I'm not
like, this is in no way me

2144
02:25:37,879 --> 02:25:41,760
being like they look uncomfortable. No, they look comfortable. But I just

2145
02:25:41,840 --> 02:25:43,879
can't. Let me tell you they
make stylish ones. Now, y'all saw

2146
02:25:43,920 --> 02:25:52,200
the looking ones I had. I'm
sure the pink ones look. It's just

2147
02:25:52,200 --> 02:25:56,719
I just can't do. I don't
know, like if that's what I said,

2148
02:25:58,040 --> 02:25:58,920
like spoke for them, would you
get him. Then he did.

2149
02:26:00,319 --> 02:26:05,040
He has he has a line.
I leave my post along ago. Jeff

2150
02:26:05,079 --> 02:26:09,440
Backar follows, how did you know
that? I don't know? Like again,

2151
02:26:09,040 --> 02:26:13,040
you know, I'll, i'll I
would like try them on, have

2152
02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:18,000
of this. My answer is like
such a hard no until if I if

2153
02:26:18,000 --> 02:26:20,079
I try one pair on and I
am like blown away at their comfort,

2154
02:26:20,879 --> 02:26:24,200
then maybe I would consider like just
the house pair. Yeah, just the

2155
02:26:24,239 --> 02:26:28,319
house pair. Hi'd your shame?
Yeah, I'm not going out to them.

2156
02:26:28,559 --> 02:26:31,959
This is this is what I wear. Do you guys do flip flops

2157
02:26:31,000 --> 02:26:35,200
or anything like that? I don't
want to. I'm uncomfortable. I don't

2158
02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:37,920
like Yeah, gets like I just
want to go outside for something like get

2159
02:26:37,920 --> 02:26:41,520
the paper or something. Put on
this. Okay, that's a good deal.

2160
02:26:43,360 --> 02:26:46,600
All right, all right, all
right? Last two emails. Uh.

2161
02:26:46,639 --> 02:26:52,399
This one comes from Robert from Florida, writing in about the Gimmick of

2162
02:26:52,440 --> 02:26:56,760
the Year. Hey, Duders,
Game of the Year is coming. I

2163
02:26:56,840 --> 02:27:00,840
think we should revisit the laughs and
memories we had together. Any edition come

2164
02:27:01,040 --> 02:27:05,760
in mind. They've presented several categories
here, Work of the Year, where

2165
02:27:05,799 --> 02:27:11,360
we celebrate a crew member bamboozling another
potential nominees Satan becoming a frequent guest in

2166
02:27:11,399 --> 02:27:18,200
Eternal Darkness. Sure Love saying Dan's
alternate Dan appearing in the background. That's

2167
02:27:18,239 --> 02:27:22,639
the name is Chris Friend. No, it's fine, don't take offense to

2168
02:27:22,680 --> 02:27:28,040
that. You have him in the
corner, just like Chained Up. It's

2169
02:27:28,040 --> 02:27:33,959
a it's a big closet. Bonyello
making Mike Boniello's Mike Manati song. That's

2170
02:27:33,959 --> 02:27:37,799
pretty up. There is good.
Okay. Now we have a Shoot of

2171
02:27:37,840 --> 02:27:41,680
the Year where we had a genuine
laugh together about something. Potential nominees Dan

2172
02:27:41,799 --> 02:27:48,719
realizing there's loading screens between counting boxes
in Sonico six. Yeah, film in

2173
02:27:48,799 --> 02:27:54,040
forty is a NET. I'm not
that drunk, not that drunk. I'm

2174
02:27:54,040 --> 02:27:58,040
not that drunk. I'm a good
father. We are so in love.

2175
02:27:58,040 --> 02:28:05,079
We should just do an annual.
A NET should film in forties. Every

2176
02:28:05,120 --> 02:28:07,760
film forty should be a double feature
with a NET. Oh, God,

2177
02:28:07,840 --> 02:28:11,920
Jesus, let's do a sandwich of
a NET. Start with a NET,

2178
02:28:11,000 --> 02:28:15,799
actual movie than a Nette. Jesus. Next sandwich, No, No,

2179
02:28:15,879 --> 02:28:18,120
I can't, can't. And last
nominee for Shoot of the Year Robo Mitch

2180
02:28:18,200 --> 02:28:22,440
getting drilled at the end of that
tunnel. Sure funny, that was perfect

2181
02:28:22,440 --> 02:28:28,120
moment. Gimmick of the Year a
category that explicitly doesn't have a definition.

2182
02:28:28,799 --> 02:28:35,639
Potential nominees janz A Red Beanie,
Jim Ryan quitting Sony, Lucy James being

2183
02:28:35,680 --> 02:28:41,120
okay with Wiki feet because her rating
is good. I love you all.

2184
02:28:41,639 --> 02:28:45,440
Robert from Florida. I really like
Gimmick of the Year and that anything can

2185
02:28:45,479 --> 02:28:46,399
go in there. That. Yeah, like that we could do that.

2186
02:28:46,479 --> 02:28:50,040
Yeah, that's a good bit.
That's like the one year we did the

2187
02:28:50,120 --> 02:28:56,479
Letter of the Year. Yeah,
and then j one, Yeah of the

2188
02:28:56,520 --> 02:29:01,120
year. All right, last email
of the show, and thank you once

2189
02:29:01,120 --> 02:29:05,840
again, everyone sending your lovely emails
to BombCast the giant bomb dot com.

2190
02:29:05,239 --> 02:29:09,680
Corey from Atlanta rights in, Hey
guys, my six year old says,

2191
02:29:09,719 --> 02:29:16,399
bruh a lot does he suck?
This is? That is the one age

2192
02:29:16,520 --> 02:29:22,079
I think where it would be cool. That's true. You know they all

2193
02:29:22,600 --> 02:29:26,440
mine's eighth and they all do it
too. Then it's more bro. They

2194
02:29:26,799 --> 02:29:30,120
evolve from okay, eight, he's
too old like that at that point because

2195
02:29:30,120 --> 02:29:33,959
they're like fully functioned. Well they
say bro, they everything is bro like

2196
02:29:33,079 --> 02:29:37,239
bro. Do just see the size
of that? That's not funny or endearing,

2197
02:29:37,319 --> 02:29:39,799
like a six year old is young
enough to be funny, saying bro,

2198
02:29:39,360 --> 02:29:43,920
yeah, same bro, Yeah that's
funny, that's funny. We there

2199
02:29:43,959 --> 02:29:48,680
was a moment in our lives where
we were all saying fat like that was

2200
02:29:48,799 --> 02:29:52,040
a cool thing to do. So
like, look, they d wouldn't shut

2201
02:29:52,079 --> 02:29:56,440
it. Yeah, you only get
to be a kid once, so h,

2202
02:29:56,840 --> 02:29:58,920
I would just look your kid dead
in the eye. Corey from Atlanta

2203
02:30:00,159 --> 02:30:05,200
and after he says bruh, just
go that's why yeah and walk away from

2204
02:30:05,200 --> 02:30:11,280
the room. Brother, thank you
once again for sending all your emails to

2205
02:30:11,319 --> 02:30:16,040
bombcassagiant bomb dot com. We got
a couple of shoutouts here starting now.

2206
02:30:16,200 --> 02:30:18,360
These are the shout outs for the
show right in your shout outs for the

2207
02:30:18,360 --> 02:30:22,399
show shoutouts. Is metroidread a mainline
Metroid game. It's two D and has

2208
02:30:22,440 --> 02:30:28,559
a title instead of a number.
Smiley face, Brian Cabrera, Dan's right,

2209
02:30:28,600 --> 02:30:31,639
Mario Wonder isn't a mainline Mario game, just a fun side experiment.

2210
02:30:31,120 --> 02:30:35,319
Skimbity toilet shouts out to my boy
Nick krom Nick, the reason why Jan

2211
02:30:35,360 --> 02:30:41,280
should stay away from Warhammer. Bro
bought a starter box within three months lost

2212
02:30:41,280 --> 02:30:43,840
his job, his wife, his
kids, and his house. By the

2213
02:30:43,920 --> 02:30:46,079
end of it, he was in
the back alley of a game's workshop,

2214
02:30:46,120 --> 02:30:52,479
trading hj's for model paints, well
screaming for the Emperor. Rip Nick died

2215
02:30:52,520 --> 02:31:01,799
doing what he loved, playing warm
Rammer and slinging hj's by asking your partner

2216
02:31:01,239 --> 02:31:05,520
post coitus if it was a worker, Shoot, it's good, Jed,

2217
02:31:05,600 --> 02:31:09,319
you look great. Bechler, you
look great. Grub, you look great.

2218
02:31:09,479 --> 02:31:15,040
Al card from the hit series Helsing
Ultimate Swack Pizza. I named my

2219
02:31:15,159 --> 02:31:18,200
season of blood character carefree, salt
Lick and twenty four checks. Please.

2220
02:31:20,479 --> 02:31:24,239
Uh it's thunderstorming right now and it's
too dark to see the salt lick.

2221
02:31:24,120 --> 02:31:28,920
I've been watching Rebels instead. I'll
get back to twenty four soon. Hey

2222
02:31:28,000 --> 02:31:31,799
nos, fuck you. Happy birthday. J. C. Tucker shouts out

2223
02:31:31,799 --> 02:31:35,120
to Mike, never saying a flower
is another name for a vagina ever again.

2224
02:31:35,879 --> 02:31:37,799
No, I know we can't say
the sea word anymore, but his

2225
02:31:37,840 --> 02:31:41,319
com still on the table. If
it is, what about a piece cooled

2226
02:31:41,319 --> 02:31:48,120
by crumb? You said you?
You should said Crumb first as well.

2227
02:31:48,200 --> 02:31:52,600
I think there Daisy is overrated.
Should have been Rosalina in wonder instead trying

2228
02:31:52,639 --> 02:31:54,639
to hurt our boy Mike. Huh, Rosalina is mid two. Don't make

2229
02:31:54,680 --> 02:31:58,879
me fight, y'all, pointing up
emoji. How fucking dare you love?

2230
02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:03,239
Sean? I have to leave soon? Can someone shout out? Just a

2231
02:32:03,239 --> 02:32:05,040
new product where she's editing, sound
designing and voicing in a new D and

2232
02:32:05,120 --> 02:32:09,559
D podcast called Tenders, Dan,
you have a normal head size. The

2233
02:32:09,559 --> 02:32:13,639
haberdasher two million podcasts points to you
the listener, I don't condone this,

2234
02:32:13,840 --> 02:32:20,000
and shouts out to babies. I
guess, yeah, what what's up baby?

2235
02:32:20,559 --> 02:32:22,520
They haven't done shit though, You're
right, they don't deserve it.

2236
02:32:24,440 --> 02:32:26,239
Get a job and we'll talk.
Yeah, you can accrue a balance,

2237
02:32:26,280 --> 02:32:30,680
but you can't hold on to the
actual points. Uh, folks, we

2238
02:32:30,760 --> 02:32:33,879
got out jam packed week. As
it turns out, every week is a

2239
02:32:33,959 --> 02:32:37,040
jam packed week. Games mornings for
the rest of the week. Uh.

2240
02:32:37,799 --> 02:32:45,799
Blight Club new season starts tomorrow.
Yes, I have apparently test Grub's wife

2241
02:32:45,840 --> 02:32:50,920
with doing impossible things with clothes,
so we'll see. I think I know

2242
02:32:50,959 --> 02:32:54,000
what the problem is. Hey,
Grub, can you take that well?

2243
02:32:54,079 --> 02:32:56,799
I don't want to spoil. Oh
yeah, take your headphones off for a

2244
02:32:56,799 --> 02:33:03,639
second. Yeah, oh god,
can you not iron like patches onto denim?

2245
02:33:05,000 --> 02:33:09,600
I assumed iron on patches where iron
on passes. Then then then iron

2246
02:33:09,639 --> 02:33:13,920
on patches have glue on the back
that milk. Wait are the ones that

2247
02:33:13,959 --> 02:33:16,920
I bought? Are they? Probably
not? You dumb motherfucker. Let me

2248
02:33:16,920 --> 02:33:20,879
see if it says anything about irons
in this because yeah, I just told

2249
02:33:20,000 --> 02:33:31,559
like iron twenty patches. Uh see, sorry to scroll through eight pages of

2250
02:33:31,600 --> 02:33:35,040
anti woodpecker stuff in my Amazon history. Hang on, Dan, for real,

2251
02:33:35,239 --> 02:33:37,959
that is come on, dude,
here it is no so wait,

2252
02:33:39,040 --> 02:33:46,280
come on, so or iron on
patches, Well, dude, iron on

2253
02:33:46,399 --> 02:33:50,360
patches have like an adhesive on the
back of them. Okay, and so

2254
02:33:50,399 --> 02:33:54,760
you go with that on denim should
be But yeah, then I don't know

2255
02:33:54,799 --> 02:33:58,440
what the problem is. I don't
know. Okay, Well, I'm gonna

2256
02:33:58,479 --> 02:34:01,840
be staying. You have to ask
them, be like, oh is it

2257
02:34:01,879 --> 02:34:05,079
Maybe you had a choice to choose
between iron on or sewing. Maybe there

2258
02:34:05,120 --> 02:34:07,799
was like an option, Dan of
like you know you want this size or

2259
02:34:07,840 --> 02:34:11,000
that? Shoot me your receipt.
Let me see your receipt here. Let

2260
02:34:11,000 --> 02:34:15,120
me show you just the choice on
the side. We gotta get grub.

2261
02:34:15,239 --> 02:34:16,280
I'm gonna put it on the and
the chat here if you want to take

2262
02:34:16,280 --> 02:34:20,239
a look at it, folks,
Well don't see that. Well yeah,

2263
02:34:20,479 --> 02:34:22,239
and I don't want people to see
it. It's DM me. Uh.

2264
02:34:22,280 --> 02:34:26,959
And let's bring grub back. I
feel bad. Yeah, grub grub over

2265
02:34:28,000 --> 02:34:31,680
here, over here reading there you
go, there, you go back there.

2266
02:34:31,760 --> 02:34:35,760
You got it all right? I
like we said, new season of

2267
02:34:35,799 --> 02:34:41,159
Blake Club on Thursday. Another episode
of Game Mass Mornings. But we also

2268
02:34:41,280 --> 02:34:46,319
have the Mario Wonder Grand Prix.
We're just gonna be racing for times in

2269
02:34:46,399 --> 02:34:50,440
Mario Wonder. I don't know which
courses we're gonna do or levels. Figure

2270
02:34:50,440 --> 02:34:52,280
it out as we go by.
Are you the game master? Jan?

2271
02:34:52,920 --> 02:34:56,799
Sure? I guess okay, I
gotta play more of that game. Then

2272
02:34:56,440 --> 02:35:05,879
voicemail dumb truck popping off this as
well as another episode of Friday Night Everybody's

2273
02:35:05,879 --> 02:35:09,799
the fourth of July game Mess on
Friday. And then what we also got

2274
02:35:09,840 --> 02:35:11,440
popping off is a upf still kind
of up in the air, but we're

2275
02:35:11,440 --> 02:35:18,639
thinking spooky themed yep, spooky Spookyuh, gentlemen, anything else popping off you

2276
02:35:18,680 --> 02:35:24,120
want to plug talk about? We? Oh? We said fourking No I

2277
02:35:24,120 --> 02:35:28,399
don't I think we're good. I
mean we have we explicitly been pushing what

2278
02:35:28,440 --> 02:35:33,079
we're doing for extra life, yet
uh we we start talking about it.

2279
02:35:33,159 --> 02:35:35,559
Yeah, and also I got my
flight, so okay, and so to

2280
02:35:35,600 --> 02:35:39,559
Minati. So all right. So
that's right. The weekend after the SF

2281
02:35:39,600 --> 02:35:45,639
team is congregating to for twelve hours, we're gonna have the Midwest team,

2282
02:35:45,760 --> 02:35:50,399
the East Coast team congregate together Middle
Coast. Yeah, the Middle Coast team,

2283
02:35:50,680 --> 02:35:54,000
Dan, do you want to share
what the team what y'all are doing

2284
02:35:54,079 --> 02:35:58,719
or is there for a long time? We need to start having a chat.

2285
02:35:58,760 --> 02:36:01,799
But like I've got a bunch of
like you know, like Warrior where

2286
02:36:01,799 --> 02:36:03,719
it comes out right before that,
like there's you know, Mario party will

2287
02:36:03,760 --> 02:36:09,360
likely happen. You know, there's
many different options. We'll start getting together

2288
02:36:09,399 --> 02:36:11,920
a real prison cell bunk bed situation
for me to sleep in. I do

2289
02:36:11,959 --> 02:36:15,920
have a trip. I have a
trip triple bunk bed. So him and

2290
02:36:15,959 --> 02:36:20,639
Manati, yes, enjoy on that. On that first weekend, I want

2291
02:36:20,680 --> 02:36:22,680
well, I want to do some
little stream that I'll probably stream for like

2292
02:36:22,879 --> 02:36:26,239
twelve hours, and I want to
do some DDR. I'm gonna get d

2293
02:36:26,280 --> 02:36:28,360
DR set up in place some of
that. So so yeah, well I'll

2294
02:36:28,399 --> 02:36:31,079
do some of that and then then
we'll head the dance and well it'll be

2295
02:36:31,120 --> 02:36:35,040
fun. We'll be in person.
We said some brute force. We'll see

2296
02:36:35,040 --> 02:36:37,479
if that gets played, we'll see
I did. I bought brute force,

2297
02:36:37,559 --> 02:36:41,239
so I have that. Here we
go looking forward to well, stay tuned

2298
02:36:41,319 --> 02:36:45,719
to the website. Lots of wonderful
things popping off once again. If you

2299
02:36:45,760 --> 02:36:48,399
missed the announcement at the top,
we now have a game spot review podcast

2300
02:36:48,680 --> 02:36:52,399
called the Game Spot Review Cast.
Go subscribe to that. Hey, you

2301
02:36:52,440 --> 02:36:56,680
know, while you're listening to this, I don't know, thumbs up the

2302
02:36:56,799 --> 02:37:01,159
video or podcast, review the podcast, I don't know, comment and stuff.

2303
02:37:01,000 --> 02:37:05,159
I have a friend's phone. Subscribe
to the podcast and subscribe. It's

2304
02:37:05,239 --> 02:37:09,239
like, do that, dude,
Yeah, mess with that. We spoke

2305
02:37:09,280 --> 02:37:13,840
about brute force. Brute force our
way onto your friend's phone. Do that,

2306
02:37:15,959 --> 02:37:18,399
and then we'll see you next week
for another episode of the Giant BombCast.

2307
02:37:18,440 --> 02:37:22,760
I've been chaanned, he's been chef. He's also been chef. He's

2308
02:37:22,799 --> 02:37:26,079
been Dan. And you at home, drink some water today, you know,

2309
02:37:26,239 --> 02:37:31,239
stretch, wiggle your hands a bit, and then you know, well,

2310
02:37:31,280 --> 02:37:54,719
We'll Wall Party reconvene next week another
episode of the Giant BombCast Smooches
