WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.080 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that I've been on for 2 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:05.040 most of my life. Ever since I was a kid, I've heard tales 3 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:09.160 of bigfoot and wild men while spending time with my friends and family. As 4 00:00:09.199 --> 00:00:12.960 I grew older and read more about the paranormal, my interest encryptids and other 5 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:17.120 things strange only deepened. That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 6 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:23.039 I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The Untold Radio Network is 7 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:28.000 a live streaming podcast network that airs a new show every day across all podcast 8 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:32.119 platforms, YouTube, and more. 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It's free to subscribe. 16 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:06.120 So what are you waiting for visit www dot Untold Radio neetwork dot com. 17 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:11.680 Today everybody, this is Less Striving Yes, yes I know aka Surviving Man, 18 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:37.359 and you're listening to Brian on sasquatchas Hey guys, and welcome back to 19 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:41.200 Sasquatch. Obviously, thank you so much for clicking play. It is Sunday. 20 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:44.200 I hope you guys are having a great weekend. Have an amazing show 21 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:47.319 Lindy for you. But as always, I want to start by inviting you. 22 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:49.840 If you've had an encounter you'd like to be on the show, shoot 23 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:53.319 me an email you give me at Brian at Paranormalworldquestions dot com. You can 24 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:56.879 head over to the website check it out, become a member there and help 25 00:01:56.920 --> 00:02:00.319 support the show. As I say, we've got a great show will lined 26 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:02.319 up for you. I decided to put out something that I actually did last 27 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:07.599 year. I was a guest over on the Western New York Bigfoot Investigations Group. 28 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:10.400 I was on Joe's show over there on YouTube last year and we had 29 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:14.840 a blast. This is like a two hour interview that I did because we 30 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:20.240 talked about everything Bigfoot. Leon Thompson from Bigfoot Okanagan joined in and we just 31 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:23.120 had a blast. And I hope you guys really enjoy this as much as 32 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.280 I enjoyed talking to those guys. It was a really, really fun night. 33 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:29.280 If you would, if you're listening on Apple podcast or Spotify, take 34 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:31.120 a couple of seconds to rate interview the show, and we'd love to have 35 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:36.039 you join us on Instagram follow us at Sasquatch Odyssey. You can check us 36 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:39.080 out and follow us on TikTok at sasquatch Odyssee podcast, and please join us 37 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:43.400 in the Sasquatch Odyssey Fans group on Facebook. But enough of that, I 38 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:45.520 know you guys are ready to get into it. I'm gonna stop talking. 39 00:02:45.560 --> 00:03:07.159 You guys, sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. All right, 40 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:12.719 Hello everybody, and welcome to Joe asked, Wait a minute, what 41 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:17.479 I'm your host, Joe, you know me? And over there is your 42 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:23.120 other host, Jen you know where too? Hey, everybody down there joining 43 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:28.759 us is Leon. Leon. Did you get your audio working? Nope? 44 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:30.879 All right, Leon's gonna work on his audio. But hey, tonight, 45 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:35.360 folks, we got a pretty interesting guest then working on this. For a 46 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:38.520 while, we've been kind of crossing pass here and there, trying to work 47 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:44.159 it out and get together on this, and I just appeared on his show 48 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:50.439 the other night. He's a rather accomplished interviewer in my opinion anyway, real 49 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:54.120 easy guys to have an interview with. So well further ado, Actually, 50 00:03:54.159 --> 00:04:00.159 I'm gonna bring on our guest, mister Brian King Sharp saspotch Otisee. Did 51 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:02.280 you have a good Turkey day? I did, Man, I just came 52 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:05.199 back from You can probably hear my family in the background. We were playing 53 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:09.800 cards and they're all still pissed off because the person who wasn't supposed to win 54 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:14.479 one. So it's been a fun time we've had. We've had a blast. 55 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:16.920 I've had the end laws over so good times, man, good times, 56 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:20.720 awesome, awesome. So yeah, So, as I mentioned, yeah, 57 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:24.639 we've been going around back and forth trying to get any other on the 58 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:29.480 podcast here. We finally managed to work. And I gotta tell you again, 59 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:31.560 I mean, I really enjoyed being on with you the other day. 60 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:35.600 Really easy to talk to you. So that made it. That made it 61 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:40.920 a lot easier, you know that I was. I was comfortable and speaking 62 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:44.319 with you, and you know you have that particular skill, so you know, 63 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:47.240 start this whole thing kind of give people. Let's do a little bit 64 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:51.319 of let's do a little background on mister Brian King Sharp, you know, 65 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:57.519 just a little bit of your background and what kind of got you into just 66 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:00.480 podcasting in general. Want us to, like Da Roberts did on my show, 67 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:03.800 I'm a hill billy from West Virginia. I was actually born and raised 68 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:08.199 in North Georgia, and I eventually became a cop there. I was a 69 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:11.199 City of Atlanta police officer. I was in a law enforcement for a little 70 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:15.600 over sixteen years and I left that in twenty sixteen, bought almost forty acres 71 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.959 of property here in North Carolina, just kind of settled into what I'm doing 72 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:25.639 now, which is the podcasting, which was really interesting because it's not something 73 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:29.480 I ever saw myself doing. I never even really listened to podcast and then 74 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:32.279 somebody turned me on to a couple of podcasts that I started listening to that 75 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:36.040 were in the Bigfoot Realm, and I thought, well, you know, 76 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:41.680 I'd like to document as many cases from the Southeastern United States where I'm from 77 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:45.680 if possible, and talk to people from there. So I started reaching out 78 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:48.720 to folks in the Facebook groups and the first guy had on the show. 79 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:54.639 Episode number one was a roadside bigfoot crossing here in North Carolina. It was 80 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:58.879 really interesting. He was an interesting character. I think his name was kil 81 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:01.560 and he had some really interesting things to say. He had some really interesting 82 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:05.720 approaches. He would go out and he was literally a flute player and he 83 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:10.680 would play the flute or bigfoot in these woods where he was. And I 84 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:12.839 know that's a big thing. You know, some of the podcast I was 85 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.879 listening to at the time talking about the flute players and you know, the 86 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:17.600 people that were into the woo and that kind of thing. So and I 87 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:21.319 was literally recording I've told the story so many times, but I was literally 88 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:27.160 recording it on my iPhone with this free out called rev Or something that you 89 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:31.399 could record phone calls. And it was horrible audio quality. I mean, 90 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:35.319 it was horrendous audio quality. But I was trying to make the best of 91 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:38.959 it. I was still doing what I wanted to do, talking to people, 92 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:43.240 documenting as many cases as I could that people had encounters with these things. 93 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:46.000 And I don't know, it was about two or three months into the 94 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:47.800 show, and you know, at first, nobody listens, right, there's 95 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:51.199 zero listeners, and then you get like twenty five people that are downloading, 96 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:55.519 and then it was fifty people. Then one hundred three months in, it 97 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:59.079 was starting to pick up, and I'll never forget I get this email from 98 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:01.079 West Germer squat Chronicles, and West was like, hey, man, I 99 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:04.399 listen to your show. Your audio sucks, So why don't you let me 100 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:09.040 help pick some of the audio problems that you have. So he called me 101 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:12.480 up and I ordered some of the equipment that he's been using on his show, 102 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:15.959 and he helped me kind of dial it in, and the audio quality 103 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:19.040 of the show changed literally overnight. That was working fifty hours a week at 104 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:24.639 a retail job, managing a store. I was managing fifty people at one 105 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:28.439 time, and I was driving two hours a day round trip, and I 106 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.040 was putting out shows. It got to the point where I was able to 107 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:35.360 make enough revenue off the show that I was almost replaced in my end front, 108 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:40.319 but I wasn't quite there. And finally I said, the only way 109 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:43.079 I'm going to be able to do this full time and commit to what I 110 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:46.199 really love doing, which is the show, is I just got to pull 111 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.600 the trigger and say, you know what, I gotta do this full time. 112 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:53.360 So March at this point of this year, which I posted the first 113 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:58.279 sasquatch Odyssee episode February seventh of last year, and in March of this year, 114 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:01.120 I was able to leave my full time job is our podcast and full 115 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:03.879 time and now I do four shows. Yeah, I was, And that's 116 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.879 that's interesting. Now. I think you had mentioned you were in law enforcement 117 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:11.879 for many years, like sixteen years, right, would you say that that 118 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:16.480 time, during that time, you say that that was one of the major 119 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:22.920 things or that really lent a lot towards your interviewing skills, I would imagine, 120 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:26.279 I guess. So, you know, I did a lot of interviewing 121 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:28.720 people. You know, I answered nine one calls all the time, so 122 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:33.080 it was constantly interviewing and talking about what was going on, you know, 123 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:37.399 investigating crimes and things like that. But I don't know, I've just always 124 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:39.360 sort of had a knack for that kind of thing. I don't know, 125 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.639 it's just just kind of been my thing. I've always done public speaking. 126 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:46.879 I was in bands from the time that I was a teenager, and I 127 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:52.360 sang for many many years and kind of performed all the time in front of 128 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.320 a lot of people. So it was kind of a natural progression for me. 129 00:08:54.440 --> 00:09:00.039 I guess I'm sure the interviewing thing was honed in. I took a 130 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.440 lot of interviewing classes as a cop and learn how to interrogate people. I 131 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.360 don't try to interrogate people on the show. That's not my third people who 132 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:09.879 have had big foot encounters. It's more of a conversation. That was one 133 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:13.480 of the appeals for me for some of the shows that I started listening to 134 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:18.240 initially was I didn't like a bunch of back and forth banter. I just 135 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:22.840 wanted to be the story of the person who experienced it. So I think 136 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:26.399 that's been something I've tried to do and I still try to do every single 137 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:31.159 time I sit down with somebody as just shut your mouth, open your two 138 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:33.480 ears, and listen, and this guide the people as they need to be 139 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:37.480 guided. That's kind of what I do. Yeah. Now, when it 140 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:39.720 comes to the podcast, you, as I mentioned like in the description, 141 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:45.440 I mean you you run the gummy. I mean you've done several different subjects 142 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:48.240 like I think. I mean, I heard you mentioned true crime. If 143 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:52.440 he's gone to podcasts on that now, I would imagine that you know it 144 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:56.759 was your time in the law Enforcement, which you know lent to that. 145 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.720 So how did you tell me a little bit about the true crime route? 146 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:05.919 Are you still doing that? Do you still have a true crime podcast? 147 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:09.480 I do. I just gave up the Paranormal podcast, so I found a 148 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:13.840 host to take that over. It's still my show, but I found Wayne 149 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:18.120 from Animal Research. He has his own YouTube channel. It's now Paranormal Odyssey, 150 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.480 but he had his own channel on YouTube for several years and he was 151 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:24.720 doing shows over there. He took over the Paranormal Odyssey show for me just 152 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:28.720 over the last month. He's about three or four shows in over there. 153 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.720 But I do the true crime show every week. I didn't do one because 154 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.799 of the holiday this week. I took the week off. But it's definitely 155 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:39.639 a labor of love. It's way more as far as the research part of 156 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:43.399 it. It's way more intense than setting down and just interviewing somebody who's had 157 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:48.639 an experience. I have to go in and deep dive and research the case. 158 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:52.360 Then I have to write the episode, and then I have to record 159 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:56.320 the episode. Because it's pretty much just me narrating the show as it unfolds 160 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:00.879 and trying to do, you know, at justice because to me, it's 161 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:03.240 all about the victims. It's always been about the victims. For me, 162 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:05.440 I've been a victim of crime as a cop. I mean, my car 163 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.519 was broken into many times. I was shot at twice. You know, 164 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.360 I had a lot of experiences. And my grandmother was murdered when I was 165 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:18.039 a child. So I've always been interested in the true crime thing, you 166 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.799 know, for a yard of different reasons. But it's very labor intensive and 167 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:26.840 frankly, there's not a lot of return on investment. Yet it's still a 168 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:31.279 virgining show. It's a it's a new show. So I'm about thirty eight 169 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:35.440 episodes. I guess in on that show it's doing well, but you know, 170 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:39.759 it's it's a lot of work. So but I do those weekly. 171 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:43.840 I put out a new show every single week on Tuesdays. Be interesting in 172 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:48.200 in the near future to get back with you again and then because I'm just 173 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:50.639 trying to let you get a few under your belt, and then maybe someday 174 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:56.039 get you back on and you can talk about which which are the cases that 175 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.759 have most interested you when it comes to that. Well, lad even you 176 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:03.120 also mentioned again you dabbled in not only just true grind, but also paranormal. 177 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.440 How did you get into the paranormal? I mean, what was there 178 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:11.879 something that you yourself had happened experience in your life that you went, you 179 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:16.039 know, I really should just really just dive into this paranormal stuff a little 180 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:20.919 bit too. Yeah, I had tons of paranormal stuff as a child. 181 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:24.799 I lived in some houses that were haunted. One of the childhood houses that 182 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:31.000 I lived in when I was from like ten to fourteen ish or maybe fifteen, 183 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:35.480 was haunted and there were some possible satanic stuff going on, some devil 184 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:39.679 worshiping stuff before we moved in, and it was a really active place. 185 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:45.600 So I started having those kind of experiences, hearing things at night, scratching 186 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:50.639 on the walls, just a lot of interesting paranormal stuff. So I've always 187 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:54.639 been interested in that as well. And my mom's lived in several haunted houses, 188 00:12:54.679 --> 00:13:00.320 and she's told me those stories from her childhood and early adult hood, 189 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.159 and some of our relatives that have experienced certain things like that, my sisters 190 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.120 lived in a haunted house. I caught an EVP in a house that she 191 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:11.320 was living then, which was pretty interesting. But I've always had that fascination 192 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:16.840 and it was sort of born out of I started the Sasquatch Odyssey podcast specifically 193 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:22.799 to cover bigfoot encounters. But as you know, you interview people, Leon 194 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:24.279 can attest to this, Jen, I'm sure you can attest to it as 195 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.279 well. Every time you're talking to somebody, it's well, if you had 196 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.600 any other weird things happen, Yeah, there's these lights, and there's that 197 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:35.200 one time I saw that UFO, and then there's this ghost that comes in 198 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.960 visits and then you just unpeel this onion. And you know, for the 199 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:43.679 most part, at least in my experience, most bigfoot people are sort of 200 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:46.360 purist, right. They want their big foot and that's all they want to 201 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:48.480 talk about. If it even goes outside of where they want to talk about 202 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:50.559 or how they want to talk about big Foot, they don't want to talk 203 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:56.399 about it. So I started the Paranormal Odyssey podcast just to give a space 204 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:01.840 for those people who have had the UFO, alien abductions, dog man encounters, 205 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:05.480 and some of the weirder stuff ghost encounters and things like that. So 206 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:09.279 that's kind of how that show was born, to give it a separate space 207 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:11.519 for people to come on and share that as well. So that's funny. 208 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:16.720 You should mention that, because that's how this show, what this show was 209 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:18.840 born out of two was. You know. I was like, well, 210 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.440 you know, I really it was hard because for a while I was doing 211 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:26.240 three shows a week and I was like, wow, man, this is 212 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:30.120 just too much to juggle around three shows. I got to cut this back. 213 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:31.919 So I cut it back to two. And then I was like, 214 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:37.720 well, I don't really want two big foot shows. So that's what this 215 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:39.440 was bo out. I was like, Okay, that one's for big foot, 216 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:43.679 this one is four. Well we can talk about a big foot on 217 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:48.279 this show, but this one is more expansive. This is everything that makes 218 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.799 me go wait a minute. Worked, And so I figured this was a 219 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:56.720 good good one to have you on because you've covered so many different topics and 220 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:01.559 subject as we said, from true crime all the way to other rift kids 221 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:05.679 and all that stuff. So this was perfect place to have you on. 222 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:09.399 As far as i'm sir and now, so would you say that in a 223 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:15.919 way like I can say, look, I'm a hundred percent sure that sas 224 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.440 Watch is real. Are you at that point when it comes to like para 225 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:24.879 normal and ghosts and you say that for you that you one hundred percent know 226 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:30.759 that ghosts are real. Absolutely not. I don't think I'm one hundred percent 227 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:33.720 on anything. Okay. You know, in the beginning, folks kind of 228 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:39.039 gave me cryp because I wouldn't stick in a lane. But that's just who 229 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:41.320 I am. I don't tell any lines for anybody. I don't pull any 230 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:45.279 punches when it comes to my show, and I'm just not one hundred percent 231 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:48.240 on anything. You and I talked about that. You and Leon and I 232 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:52.000 talked about that just about everybody I've had on the show. I'm never one 233 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:56.360 hundred percent sure about anything, even my own experience. I think I had 234 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.879 a big foot encounter when I was twelve or so. I think I was 235 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.720 bluff charged and ran out of the woods by one of these things. But 236 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:06.279 I've had people bring up other weird things. Leon's probably going to get a 237 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:11.320 kick out of this, because you're explaining an enigma with another phenomena wrapped in 238 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:14.840 a second enigma. But I had a guy who interviewed me last year. 239 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:17.559 I was a guest on another show, and he said, well, with 240 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:19.320 the demonic stuff that was going on in your house, do you think it's 241 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:25.039 possible that your bigfoot experience or what you perceived to be a Bigfoot experience might 242 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:27.120 have been one of these demonic things that was chasing you through the woods. 243 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:30.519 And I'm like, well, holy shit, I don't know. You might 244 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.720 be right, So I keep my mind open to everything. You know, 245 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:40.840 I don't ever definitively say that Bigfoot is one hundred percent real. I don't 246 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:44.200 think ghost necessarily in that. For me, I believe in most of those 247 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:48.399 things. And my disclaimer for everybody who's ever on my show is I don't 248 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:52.600 have anybody on my show who does not believe that they have had the experience 249 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:57.279 that they say they've had. That leaves a wide open berth for a lot 250 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:02.519 of things, right, just because they believe it doesn't necessarily make it true, 251 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:06.039 but it is what it is. But I don't have people on that 252 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:08.640 I just believe you're just making stuff up. I'm not percent on anything, 253 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:15.200 man. My mind is completely open to just every possibility. Yeah, and 254 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:19.319 hey, that's that's a fair enough answer. That's and it's totally acceptable answer, 255 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:22.440 Vick, does I mean, I think I think that's about the only 256 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:26.319 thing I will say that I'm one hundred percent sure about is the existence of 257 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:30.599 a sas budge, but everything else, Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent 258 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:34.319 sure about anything else. Like you know, I don't I don't necessarily believe 259 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:38.119 in ghosts, but I'm not one hundred percent sure that there's not something there, 260 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:44.039 you know, because as you mentioned, I mean, you can acknowledge, 261 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:48.960 you know, even if you don't totally you know, believe something is 262 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:52.839 real, you can't acknowledge that weird stuff that just you can't explain does happen 263 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:57.079 to be you know. Now, That's the thing that that's one thing you 264 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:00.720 just mentioned that I did want to cover about is you had mentioned that during 265 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:03.920 I think during yeah you did. When I when you were interviewed in me, 266 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:11.079 you hadn't mentioned about occurrences on some property you have, and and about 267 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:14.240 the bluff charge at twelve. And I wrote that down because I wanted to 268 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:18.720 make sure I did ask you about those. Say so, um, could 269 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:22.160 you give us a little bit of a little more in depth about what happened 270 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:26.240 when you were twelve years old? About this bluff charge and what makes you 271 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:29.319 what what was it to made you with holy crap, that could have been 272 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:33.880 a big foot that just buff guard me. Well, in retrospect, there's 273 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.759 a couple of things, but I think the big thing for me back then 274 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.200 was just the feeling that I had And Leon and I kind of talked about 275 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:45.200 this when when I had Leon on That hasn't aired yet, but it will 276 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.759 eventually in the next couple of Hey, I hear you, Leon, you're 277 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:52.839 laughing. YO, was waiting, can you hear me? Hear me? 278 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:57.359 Or just I haven't said anything like yeah, a little bit, that's awesome. 279 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:00.079 Oad. I was thinking, we're just going to stare at you all 280 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.160 night, and I was I was prepared to say nothing and leave the room. 281 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:07.319 So so yeah, I think Leon and I kind of talked about this, 282 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:11.640 but it was more about the feeling that I got when I was in 283 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:15.519 the woods, Like I was out squirrel hunting, and I'd been out in 284 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:21.440 these woods forever and experienced so many different things, but nothing like this, 285 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:26.799 and I just had this overwhelming feeling of I need to get out of here. 286 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:30.920 I shouldn't be here, you know, And like Leon and I talked 287 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:33.440 about this, and he can even talk a little bit more to this, 288 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:40.279 I guess after I get finished. But there's that one thing that just sticks 289 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:42.400 out in my mind, and it's I've never felt that feeling before. Could 290 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:45.720 it have been a mountain lion? Sure? Could it have been a bear? 291 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:48.440 Sure? Could it have been a lot of things that I didn't see 292 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:52.680 that would have caused me to have that reaction. My body's having this physical 293 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:59.000 reaction to this unknown threat, but it's it's just that overwhelming feeling. And 294 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:03.240 I started experience in that. And then I hear these this movement what sounds 295 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:10.720 like a bipedal something upright, walking heavily and making all these noises, snorts, 296 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:14.680 tofts, growls, and then I feel what I believe to be bluff 297 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:18.160 charges a couple of times, and I didn't wait for the third time. 298 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.880 I was out. I was gone. I was knees, assholes, and 299 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:26.480 elbows. I was gone. And I ran like the three to four hundred 300 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:29.160 yards back to my house. And I didn't tell anybody about it. I 301 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:30.680 didn't go in and tell my mom that something ran me out of the woods. 302 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.839 A because I'm smart, I'm twelve. I tell you that I'm never 303 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:37.680 gonna get to go back in the woods again, so I'm just gonna chalk 304 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:40.440 it up. Let it be done. But that was the only time I'd 305 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:44.359 ever experienced anything like that to this day. I've never had the same type 306 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:45.839 of experience. And I've been in the woods a lot. We live in 307 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:48.839 the woods here, you know, we're in the woods every single day on 308 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.119 our property. We have forty acres here and we're surrounded by nothing but woods. 309 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:57.279 So it was just one of those things that I can't say what it 310 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:00.720 was. It could have been. You know, people said, it's a 311 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:03.039 deer snort. Well, I've heard a deer snort. It wasn't a deer 312 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:07.119 snort. You know, I kind of know what it wasn't, but I 313 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:10.759 can't tell you what it was, right, right, And so many times 314 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:14.559 it seems like that that's the case a lot of times. I mean there's 315 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:18.200 I mean, there's been plenty of times and the time that I've been investigating 316 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:23.559 this stuff that yeah, I mean I could tell you what it what wasn't, 317 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:29.720 But there's play times like, well I can't tell you what it was 318 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:33.000 though. Yeah. That's and and you know, the bluff charts thing is 319 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:40.960 something that I have heard. Now, I personally haven't ever interviewed somebody who's 320 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:44.799 told me that they were bluff charged. Most of the people I've talked to, 321 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:48.079 it's pretty much cut and gry encounters that they've had, you know, 322 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:52.359 either they saw it run in front of their car, or they were out 323 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:56.519 hiking and it crossed, you know, a trail in front of them, 324 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.480 you know, a few hundred yards away or whatever. And but the bluff 325 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:03.640 charge thing is interesting. It sounds scary to me, you know. And 326 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:08.000 and I gotta admit some of the ones that I did hear later that you 327 00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:15.000 know, secondhand, Um, some of them I did believe. I'm like, 328 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.559 well, that's that's there's there's something there. And then plus the reaction 329 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.759 of the person talking about it, I was like, you know, you 330 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:27.000 don't you don't get at least in my mind, you don't get afraid or 331 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:33.759 seem scared over imaginary stuff, right, this is stuff that you really you 332 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:37.599 know, it's not that you imagined it, you know, or if you're 333 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:42.279 making it up right, you don't tend to be able to act like you're 334 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:48.880 scared over something you're making up right, And these people actually seemed affected by 335 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:53.039 the fact that they were They thought they were bluff charged by something that well 336 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:59.599 potentially is at least eight foot tall and probably strong enough to rip them in 337 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:02.960 half or whatever. But leon, yeah, he said that you got anything 338 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:06.599 to say about. I don't want to push my luck. I just got 339 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:08.039 your mic on. Dude, you gotta talk a little bit about what the 340 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:11.000 brain goes through when you experience. Oh. I think you guys all know 341 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:14.960 that. The idea is, if something's looking at you in the bush. 342 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:18.240 We talked about this. Just if you're ever in a restaurant, just watch 343 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:22.599 somebody's lower shoulders back like you're watching your backside, and then move you After 344 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.480 you d do that, knows nothing will happen, then look at the back 345 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:27.799 of their head. So I mean, I've been in the bush before. 346 00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:33.680 I had different flavors for a different kind of willie. So I've been on 347 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:37.279 the bus. I got the same sort of stance. Something was there was 348 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:41.079 no didn't go deern't clear raccoon, didn't go dash batches when the cougar like 349 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:45.920 bag. The good thing that you did that I think most should do. 350 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:51.440 Always if your spidy sense is tingling, always go back to the ear. 351 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:56.799 But if I don't use something, there may be something difference between your yourself 352 00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:02.240 spooking yourself and the environment your brain trying to you something. You're still having 353 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:06.160 the same issue you were having on myne No, I know that's what it's 354 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:08.440 all much matter when it's just your computer. So I'm gonna play hurst and 355 00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:11.400 say just take the damn microphone off and talking through that. But anyway, 356 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.240 but you're right about the spidy sense, right. It happened to me when 357 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.200 I was a cop, because that would happened to me all the time. 358 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:22.799 But you know, you would have those moments when something would say I need 359 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.519 to walk around to this side of the car, I need to walk around 360 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:30.240 to that side of the car, and vice versa or whatever. And I 361 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:32.799 listen to that, and I'm still alive because of it. And I think 362 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:34.680 that a lot of people get that in the woods, and that's what you're 363 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:40.480 experiencing. And it may not necessarily be a mind speak thing where something says 364 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:47.279 get out or whatever the case may be, but there's there's something physiological happening 365 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:49.519 that happens to everybody because we have that part of our brain, a lizard 366 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:52.720 part of the brain that kicks in and says, Okay, there's a predator 367 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:56.720 you don't know about. You need to be aware of this. You need 368 00:24:56.759 --> 00:24:59.839 to get out of here, and get out of here now. And when 369 00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:03.480 I interview people who have had mind speak or what they believe to be mind 370 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:07.039 speak sort of encounters. That's one of the things that's always in the back 371 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:08.839 of my mind, and I asked them that. Like Less Stroud for example, 372 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:11.720 comes to mind when I had survive him in on the show. I 373 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:14.839 asked him about that, because he's had maybe two or three mind speak or 374 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:21.000 what he pullieves to be telepathic communication situations with Bigfoot, and I don't know, 375 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.279 you know, I mean, he's a pretty intelligent guy. He knows 376 00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:27.440 the outdoors. He's been out, you know, plenty of times when he 377 00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:30.880 says he feels like this thing was talking. Did you know who am I 378 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.599 to discredit that and say that's not his experience. I'm not going to do 379 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:38.039 that, right, And it could possibly be these other things, you know, 380 00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:41.160 And we always have to keep an open mind. And Hockham's Razor right 381 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:45.880 that the simplest explanation is usually what it boils down to. So yeah, 382 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:51.799 yeah, I totally agree with you on that. I mean, I just 383 00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:56.440 recently put up a post on my Facebook page, the Western New York fiboot 384 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:02.640 in Desta, just mulling things over which my brain is constantly doing. You 385 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:04.960 know, if I you know, anytime I'm sitting still and I'm out of 386 00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.640 work, and even sometimes doing them. I put that up the same way. 387 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:15.559 I mean, yes, I am super skeptical about the whole mind speak 388 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:21.000 this and that and most of what people call WOO. I'm very skeptical of 389 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:22.680 it. But like I put in that post, so am I saying it 390 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:27.240 definitely didn't happen. No, I'm not saying that. I can't say that. 391 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:32.480 I can't say it definitely didn't happen. The only thing I can say 392 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:36.079 is that, well I can. I'm pretty skeptical of it, unless you 393 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:40.279 know, when it comes to extraordinary claims, they were for extraordinary evidence, 394 00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:42.039 and you know, if you have some of that, then you know, 395 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:47.440 I'll probably be less skeptical. But but I'm not going to say if somebody 396 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:51.640 tells me that, yeah, I might okay, might have been something else 397 00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:55.400 going on there, unless you can prove to me, you know, But 398 00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:57.920 I'm not gonna say it definitely didn't happen to you, right, Get I 399 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:03.079 wasn't so. And I mean, anybody that says they're hearing certain voices in 400 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:06.039 their heads, how are you going to tell them that, No, you're 401 00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:10.599 not you're not hearing voices in your head help them. Maybe maybe you are 402 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:15.000 right. And I've I've used the psychosis word on the show a couple of 403 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.680 times over the last couple of weeks because there there can be some of that 404 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.400 on board, right, And I've said it before. I know, I've 405 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.319 interviewed, I've tried to weed out as many people as I can, but 406 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.400 I know I've probably had people on the show that I've probably had some mental 407 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.319 illness on board. I think that's going to happen if you do what we 408 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.240 do long enough, you're going to have that from people. But the majority 409 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:38.960 of the people that I have on and it's happened recently with dog Man. 410 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:45.359 I am a very skeptical person in general, but specifically with dog Man and 411 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:51.319 other cryptids, because I just don't know how it is possible physiologically for those 412 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:55.960 things to exist. Right with Big Slot, we're talking possible homing in. 413 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.759 I'm anoid. You know, it's we have a fossil record that proves that 414 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.720 we're not the only things that have ever walked up right. Okay, but 415 00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:11.319 but an eight foot tall bipedal canine or canaid. You and I talked about 416 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.960 this when you were on the show briefly. Yeah, it just doesn't compute 417 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.079 to me, It doesn't make sense. But I've had very credible people, 418 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.839 three people I've interviewed now to date on the show that have had what they 419 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:27.839 believed to be several bigfoot and or dog man encounters. Specifically with the dog 420 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:33.359 man encounters. Da Roberts from Dax Mockner was on the show recently. Da 421 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:38.759 is former law enforcement and he's former military. Yeah, he's an intelligent guy. 422 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.839 He's a truthful guy. He's an honest guy. I don't believe that 423 00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:48.640 Da is making up anything when he tells me his stories. Right, He's 424 00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:53.359 had encounters with things that just don't seem to be anything other than a dog 425 00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.559 man, and I just have to throw my hands up. And of course 426 00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:59.680 when I put those shows out, I have listeners, you know, to 427 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.720 say, oh, he's clearly he's full of shit, he's stelling a lie. 428 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:04.799 You can tell he's embellishing. Well, how do you know that? 429 00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:11.839 Because on the flip side, right, you're making extraordinary claims that require extraordinary 430 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:17.319 evidence. But it's also an extraordinary extreme in my opinion, to call somebody 431 00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:21.000 a liar and tell you that they're making them up their entire story without some 432 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.519 kind of proof to back that up, right, I got to give him 433 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:29.559 the benefit of the doubt, right exactly, I don't know exactly now. 434 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:32.160 I mean, I know that there are some people out there. I'm not 435 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:37.160 going into that particular tangent right here, but there are some people out there 436 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:42.039 with the dog Man stuff that I'm fully, fully in the camp of you're 437 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:47.640 just totally making up this bs, you know. But in general, people 438 00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:51.880 that are just you know, not even I'm not talking about people that have 439 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:53.799 dog man ages or anything. They're just people that would be like, oh 440 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:59.319 wow, I think I saw one. Okay, maybe you did. I 441 00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.680 for mysel self, Like I said, I agree with you. I'm about 442 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:07.119 in the same camp you are. I don't see any physical evidence of dog 443 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.839 Man ever, not even as much as I have a big book, right, 444 00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:12.759 So if you gave me at least that much, I'd be like more 445 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:18.720 in the realm of Okay, possibly dog Man is reel, then stay tuned 446 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:25.880 for more Sasquatch out to Sea Wolf right back after these messages. But other 447 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:27.960 than that, man, I mean, I would love it if dog Man. 448 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:32.319 I think I mentioned it on your show cha. I love werewolves, 449 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.880 man, and I mean I understand it probably dogman and a werewolf alike and 450 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:41.440 throw two different things, right, Apparently a dog man is a bipedal canine 451 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:45.559 and that's what it is all the time. It never changes into a human 452 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.839 or whatever. But I would love it if they were real, you know, 453 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.119 scary as I saw. I would love it if that was real, 454 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:52.359 because I loved that kind of stuff ever since I was a kid. I 455 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.279 just don't see it because there's no evidence in the fossil record for it. 456 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.400 Now, having said that, I know there's the people that will bring up 457 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:07.480 the well, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and I've used 458 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.839 that myself, and okay, you can probably use that just because no fossil 459 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.119 has been found. But I don't know, again, knowing what I do 460 00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.640 know, or at least what I've studied, and I'm no expert on this. 461 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:25.720 I'm not a private biologist or anything like that or biologists, but I 462 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:30.000 just there's been no examples even living, not even fossil, but of any 463 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:36.559 knine species being bipedople. But having said that, I do want to go 464 00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:44.039 out to asking you about you made mention about occurrences, and we briefly mentioned 465 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:48.119 a few of these things in my air view you had mentioned about I think 466 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.960 we were talking about the stick stuff and stick structures and things of that nature. 467 00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.079 There are things, Oh, there are things that you said happened occurrences 468 00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:00.599 on your property that made Now you've never said, oh, this has gotta 469 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:05.759 be bigfoot on my property. I understand that you haven't gone there at all, 470 00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:12.079 which I think is well podos to you. But there's something. There's 471 00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:15.559 gotta be something that makes you go, what's a possibility. So could you 472 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:22.079 just give us some some examples of what you mean by occurrences that may make 473 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.079 you think it's possible that there would be something like that. I'm that property. 474 00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:30.000 I'll tell you some things that will make Joe go, wait a minute. 475 00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:35.119 What. So the first things were always it was vocalizations. When we 476 00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.400 first moved to the property, that's the first thing we got. And it 477 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:43.279 was distant. It was I'm talking mile mile and a half behind this river, 478 00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:50.000 and it was sort of like this ohio howel type vocalization like oh, 479 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.079 you know, could have been anything, right, But we can sit out 480 00:32:54.119 --> 00:33:00.240 in the hot tub like last winner, and it's thirty degrees out. We're 481 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.640 having a glass of wine, we're in the hot tub, and I don't 482 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:06.480 know if it was too many glasses of wine or what, but we started 483 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:14.839 hearing these vocalizations and it sounded really interesting, right, And so I would 484 00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:19.319 hear this, and it's in the distance. Then you'd hear coyotes, you'd 485 00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:27.279 hear other other wildlife whatever, and so we were getting that and that's it 486 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.839 is what it is, right, It's there's no way to really tell what 487 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:36.400 that is. And it was what last year. I guess it was middle 488 00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:40.079 last year, towards the fall. I guess it was about fifty degrees in 489 00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:45.799 that area. And I was doing some post show work up stairs. We 490 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:47.240 sleep in a lock. We have a tiny house. It's four hundred square 491 00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:51.359 feets. We have a loft and we have windows on either side and we 492 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.200 kind of sleep in the woods, right, And we had the windows open, 493 00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:57.880 and I'm doing taking some notes and getting ready for bed. It's really 494 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.519 quiet, and then all of a sudden, like forty fifty yards from the 495 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:07.160 house, we get the same ohio owl. I scream with a bark on 496 00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:13.519 the end, this weird like bark, and I'm talking like rattled me, 497 00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:17.239 like rattled the windows kind of loud, and I'm like, what the well, 498 00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.800 what was that? Well? I got the question from the better half 499 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.400 what was that? And of course I'm the big foot guy, so I 500 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:29.079 said, what do you think it was? Right? What did it sound 501 00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.920 like to you? Well, it was really weird. I did not go 502 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.239 out and see what it was. People have asked me that question when I 503 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:37.880 told the story, what did you go outside? No, dude, I 504 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:42.800 did not. We're talking for it's like midnight and it's forty yards from the 505 00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.679 house. I'm not trapsing in these woods. Sorry, just not do it. 506 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:49.280 I don't want to see it. If that's what it was, move 507 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.119 on, I'm good. I don't I don't need to get that guy. 508 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:57.119 So those things were happening, and then the deeper we'd get into the woods 509 00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.199 and moving around, we'd start seeing tree structures are what looked like tree structures, 510 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:07.800 X formations, fulcrum tight formations in different places. And again, all 511 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:12.280 of this could be exactly what it looks like. It could be deadfall, 512 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:16.760 it could be completely natural, but it looks weird. It really does look 513 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:22.760 weird. I found trees that are woven behind other trees. That's not deadfall. 514 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:24.960 It could be something else. I don't know what else that would be, 515 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:30.159 but it's not deadfall. These trees are woven behind another tree. And 516 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.920 it really came to a head last year. I filmed a television show for 517 00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:40.039 Vice and they were here. They filmed for like seven days on the property, 518 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:45.320 and we went to Georgia for a couple of days, and we actually 519 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:47.239 filmed at the Big Book Museum up in Blue Ridge. If you guys have 520 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:50.519 been there, you haven't. If you're in that area, you should go 521 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.079 check it out. It's an amazing store. So we filmed up there, 522 00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:58.480 and then we came back and they had to do some pickups for the episode. 523 00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:00.679 And when the guy I came back for a full day of pickups, 524 00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:07.119 we go out into an area hiking and the cameraman actually said, Hey, 525 00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.320 what's what's that spot over there? It looks weird, like all these trees 526 00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.599 are like laying together. I'm like, well, I've passed that spot before, 527 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:19.519 so we'll walk over and check it out. And he films me walking 528 00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:23.320 in And the closer I got to this spot, the more weird it got. 529 00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:27.559 I found one of the trees that were woven together in that spot, 530 00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.639 and there was just this. It looked like tree structures. I mean when 531 00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:34.760 I say tree structures, for anybody who's in the big Foot stuff, it 532 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:38.400 looks like what people consider to be a tree structure, trees on top of 533 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:44.440 each other, TP structures, things woven behind other things and that kind of 534 00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:46.840 thing. And so I'm standing there and I'm looking at this is a like 535 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:51.639 a cameraman for the Vice Network like this, dude, he's not into big 536 00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:53.960 Foot, right, He's like, that looks really strange. And I'm like, 537 00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:57.920 well, it does look really strange. And I'm trying to talk it 538 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.519 out as I'm you know, I'm trying to say what else it could be. 539 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.960 And they did a really good job with the show. It ended up 540 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.360 being a forty five minute show, and I was concerned about the editing and 541 00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:08.920 what they were going to do with it. But the only thing they edited 542 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:13.679 that I did not say was what you've pointed out earlier. I'm going to 543 00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:15.480 go on the record and say this. There's a spot that you see if 544 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:22.440 you watched the show. I'm saying a Bigfoot definitely made this right. And 545 00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.920 I'm standing in front of the structure that's not what I said. I was 546 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:32.559 saying. The actual phrase was the complete sentence was I can't say for sure 547 00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.880 a bigfoot made this, but instead it to look like I said that a 548 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:42.159 bigfoot made That's not why. Yeah, but I said all that to say 549 00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:47.840 it was it's really strange that all these different things, tree breaks and different 550 00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:52.480 things that we have that I found on the property again that could be completely 551 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:57.840 natural, just looked really weird. And the most recent thing was this stupid 552 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:02.320 turtle that I found stuck into the out of an old cedar stump a place 553 00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:07.079 that I walk my dogs twice a day, sometimes three times a day around 554 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.159 this trail, and I don't know, a month and a half or so 555 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:14.480 ago, we're walking the dogs one morning and I look over and I see 556 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.880 this white thing sticking on the side of this stump. And there's this turtlesheld 557 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:22.960 stuck upside down in the side of a stump like stuck there. It's on 558 00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:27.440 my Instagram. If you guys want to go to sasquatch odyssee on Instagram and 559 00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:30.199 check out the video and the pictures. It's up you can see it. 560 00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.360 So I walk over and I look at this turtlesheld and I'm thinking, how 561 00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.960 did that get there? And you know, I'm trying to be objective, 562 00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:42.719 you know, I'm trying to look at this from all different angles, and 563 00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.079 I'm trying to I stood there for like fifteen minutes trying to pick this thing 564 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:51.480 up and place it in a way that it could have happened naturally, right, 565 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:53.239 And I couldn't do it. So I just stuck it back where it 566 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:57.360 was, and I left it for like three days, and I'm like, 567 00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.400 should I, you know, should I check this out? I went back, 568 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:01.880 took some photos. I took a video of me walking up to the 569 00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:06.840 storm. I decided to take the turtleshell and I took this little rock that 570 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.599 has one of our York he passed away a couple of years ago, and 571 00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:13.960 it was actually off his grave site where he's buried here. And I took 572 00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:15.840 tanks rock and I took it up to the stump and I put it on 573 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:20.159 the stump, kind of like a gifting situation. Gay, I'm taking if 574 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.679 this is what's happening. I'm not necessarily believing this, but if this is 575 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.719 what's happened, hey, I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna leave you this. 576 00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:31.880 And then I posted the videos and the photographs on Instagram, and people 577 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.159 are like, okay, you know, people chiming, Oh, you got 578 00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:37.079 a big boot. You gotta do this, you gotta do that, you 579 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.320 gotta do this. If it's a gifting situation, you need to put an 580 00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:43.320 apple or something out there. Okay. Well, we had some half rotten 581 00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:45.519 apples in the house that I hadn't eaten, so I took one and put 582 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:49.800 it on a stick, and I stuck the stick with the apple sitting on 583 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.320 top of the stick inside the stump next to the rock. Okay, I 584 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:57.679 put up a trail cam, I don't know, twenty five feet away, 585 00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:00.280 directly in front of the tree. Camera was up for three days. I 586 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:05.840 caught nothing but raccoons for three days, but nobody touched the apple. I 587 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.320 test. I'd go and look at the apple every day. I pulled the 588 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:13.880 SD card out of the camera and come in and download the photos. Nothing 589 00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:17.840 but coons playing everywhere, but nobody touched the apple. And people were sending 590 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:22.199 me messages if it's a gifting situation, the big Foot's gonna know the camera's 591 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:23.760 there, so you gotta take the camera down or the Bigfoot's not going to 592 00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:28.400 come back. Okay, I'll do that. I took the camera down on 593 00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:31.679 the third day. I went back the fourth morning and something had taken a 594 00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:36.199 bite out of the apple. Hand to god, something had taken a bite 595 00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.239 out of the apple. And I'm like, you have got to be shipping 596 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:45.239 me. Like three days at least I counted at least six coons probably, 597 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:49.960 you know, some combination of the same group for three days, and nobody 598 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.400 touched the apple. And then I take the camera down and there's at least 599 00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:57.880 one bite or possibly two bites taken out of the side of this apple. 600 00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:00.079 So I'm like, what, I take a picture of the apple. I 601 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.360 bring it back. I think it's stick and all. I just pulled it 602 00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:07.039 and it's still in the middle in the same position. It's not laying on 603 00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.920 the side. It stuck on this stick and it stuck into the middle with 604 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:14.239 the apple still on top of the stick. But there's just these bites gone. 605 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:15.760 So I take the apple out. I bring it back up to the 606 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:19.239 porch and I lay it on the porch and I'm like, I don't know 607 00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:21.960 what to do with this. I don't know if I should take pictures. 608 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:24.079 People are gonna think, oh, you're faking stuff. I don't at this 609 00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:27.880 one. I don't care, you know, it's at it, right, 610 00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.119 So I take a picture of it. I take a couple of pictures, 611 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.000 and I sent it to Wayne over at Animal Research. And I texted Wayne 612 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.199 and I said, tell me what you think that looks like? No context. 613 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.519 He had no idea what I had done. He didn't know. He 614 00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:43.079 just knew this was like a rotten apple with some mold on it, that 615 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.159 somebody had taken a bite over there. And so he texted me back and 616 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:49.960 he said something took a He said, a person or something like a person 617 00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.360 took a bite out of the apple. What what is it? And so 618 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.239 then I tell him the story. He's like, holy shit. I'm like, 619 00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.880 I'm not saying that, dude, right, don't. I have no 620 00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:06.559 idea, But you know, things like that are really strange, like is 621 00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.199 it something else? Sure, I don't know if a deer might have been 622 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.280 in the apple, I don't know how it would do it with it on 623 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.880 the stick and in the same position. But I don't know, man, 624 00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:21.000 just weird stuff, right, Well, I you know, I try to 625 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:24.960 agree with you on NAD a little more so for the fact that like this 626 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:30.840 is on what I'm assuming, right, you're your private, your property is 627 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:35.360 private. You don't have you know, people trespassing. I don't imagine, 628 00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.480 not that it's not possible, but why would that happen? So yeah, 629 00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:43.159 when you're fine and sayings like that on a private property, they tend to 630 00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:47.440 be a little more intriguing, especially the weaving type stuff that you're talking about. 631 00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:52.960 I found examples of that myself. What I would consider it to be 632 00:42:53.119 --> 00:43:00.039 something that almost looked like a blind that something had constructed. Now could a 633 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.760 better person possibly, But you know, I run into some stuff that. 634 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.320 Well again, like you say, I'm like, well, I'm not gonna 635 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:12.960 stand here and say on sasquatch came up built this thing and was hiding behind 636 00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:17.159 it. But I have had at least one one instance where I found something 637 00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:22.400 like that, and we did find a footprint near it, like right next 638 00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:28.039 to it, as almost as if it had been standing there fiding behind this 639 00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:34.960 thing. Now, of course that doesn't necessarily mean that it made it, 640 00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.719 but it could have been standing behind it. But anyway, I'd like to 641 00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:44.960 take just a moment just to say hello and thank you to the chat everybody 642 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.239 I know. Usually I go through the role call, but I knew this 643 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:51.800 was going to be a lot of a lot of ground to cover on this 644 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:55.559 show with Brian, So for interest of time's sake, I didn't do the 645 00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:00.239 role call. But no that I appreciate. Everybody's here glad to see it 646 00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:05.039 come in. I think somebody said the k why the X Files guys were 647 00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.760 in the house. Are you guys in the house? Yeah? There are, 648 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:13.760 yeah, and an interest before I get into a get a riot situation 649 00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:19.280 going on my hands here For all the Gen fans, it had been noticing 650 00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.840 saying that she's so pretty, but she doesn't talk much. Jen. Do 651 00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:28.440 you who have any quipment any thoughts about what Brian has said so far? 652 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:36.159 Are you got any I've done like paranormal stuff myself. I don't know if 653 00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:38.280 you ever, I doubt you have. But have you ever been out to 654 00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:43.960 like Mansfield Prison here in Ohio? I have not. No, Okay, 655 00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:51.159 I was there and I took a picture walking up the staircases between the ranges 656 00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:53.760 going up to the next range. So I just took a picture. I 657 00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:58.719 just turned and I took a picture to basically take the picture of the length 658 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:05.519 of the range, and I got this green orb thing kind of floating between 659 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.639 the wall and the range. I've shown it to Joe. Have you ever 660 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:14.079 seen anything like that? What is your take on the difference between like maybe 661 00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:17.960 the spirit orbs or what you might see with people relating to like the limen, 662 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:21.599 see them in the woods, things of that nature. Is there any 663 00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:24.320 difference to you same thing. I think there's a difference. And I've done 664 00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:28.840 an entire show on orbs. I had this lady who reached out to me, 665 00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:32.039 I think last year, and I think I had her own earlier this 666 00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:37.840 year, and she was having all these kinds of different experiences with the orbs, 667 00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:43.880 and she had tons of photos, she had tons of videos and things 668 00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:46.480 like that, and she would see these things in all kinds of conditions, 669 00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:52.559 daylight, nighttime, different cameras, the whole nine yards. So I'm kind 670 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.920 of fascinated with the orbs. But you know, and then you're you're talking 671 00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:00.400 about maybe the type of orbs that people see in the woods that are sort 672 00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:05.440 of like swamp gas that people talk about and in relation to maybe even big 673 00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:07.239 foot encounters and things like that. So I don't know. I think there's 674 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.400 definitely something going on. I've had experiences with orbs I've had for some reason, 675 00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:15.719 I'm like an orb magnet when I People have taken photographs of me on 676 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:21.440 numerous occasions, and I've even posted a couple of them, I think maybe 677 00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.440 online. Yeah, I can't remember i posted mine or not. One's a 678 00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:29.199 family photo of us all sitting. It was probably fifteen or twenty of us 679 00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:32.480 sitting on this huge sectional and this is probably eight or ten years ago, 680 00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.760 and there's orbs all around my face. Nobody else is just mine. And 681 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.400 I've had I've been on ghost tours and had pictures of me taken and there's 682 00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.679 orbs and just weird stuff like that. So I don't know what to make 683 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:50.199 of the orbs. I think most of them, I'd say probably ninety five 684 00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:52.280 to ninety eight percent of the stuff that I've seen that people purport to be 685 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:58.239 orbs are probably just natural phenomenon that happens when you take photographs, or it's 686 00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:04.119 dust or it's insects, things like that. But I don't know. It's 687 00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.360 just it's an interesting subject. I definitely find it interesting, but I don't 688 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.519 I don't know what to make of the different types of orbs. Yeah, 689 00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.800 Well, if anybody in the chat of course, will you say this a 690 00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.039 lot. Any of you guys got questions for Brian, just please put them 691 00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:23.599 in caps so that we can readily see them, and I'll try to get 692 00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:29.119 through as many of them as possible while we're going through this. Gary had 693 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:31.679 a question, Yes, Gary, this is live. Gary was asking earlier 694 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:35.840 as someone asked, Joe is this live? Yes, this is live. 695 00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:38.239 We are definitely alive. Somebody posted I want to talk about this for a 696 00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:44.079 second if I can. Somebody the bat the bat mom asked, was Sasquatch 697 00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:46.480 Odyssey before big Photodyssey? And that's a good question, and I want to 698 00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:49.800 talk about that a little bit. This is the this is the thing that 699 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.599 carry Arnold and I never talked about it. It's like I always say, 700 00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:57.079 with the nine hundred pound elephant in the room and rest his soul. Carrie 701 00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.440 and I never got to talk about that. Bigfootodyssey was way before sasquatch Otase. 702 00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:06.440 So when I started looking to name the show and brand the show. 703 00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:08.960 When I started my show, I didn't know what to call it. Right, 704 00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:13.880 there's so many bigfoot shows out there, There's so many sasquatch encounter shows. 705 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:19.639 There's sasquatch Chronicles. I literally had no idea that Carrie's show existed, 706 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.360 honestly because I didn't listen. I listened to two podcasts when I started my 707 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:27.480 own podcast. One was West on Sasquatch Chronicles and the other was Tony Merkel 708 00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.960 on The Confessionals. That's the only two podcasts I'd ever listened to before I 709 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:34.880 started my home. So I was a newbie in the Bigfoot world, and 710 00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.800 I did a lot of research. I googled as much as I could to 711 00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:42.639 make sure I wasn't stealing somebody's name or you know, mixing something together. 712 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:45.920 And the only thing I found was a film that was done back in the 713 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:51.119 nineties called Sasquatch Otysey, and they had a website that was defunct. It 714 00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:54.199 was no longer being used, and the film was not in production at the 715 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:59.119 time. I mean this is literally back in the early nineties, and it 716 00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:02.760 was sort of I won't get into what the film was about. But so 717 00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:07.519 I wanted my show to be a journey for people. I wanted it to 718 00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:12.280 be something, and I didn't want to call that Sasquatch Journey, so Sasquatch 719 00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.760 Odyssey sounded better to me. So I called the show Sasquatch Odyssey, and 720 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:20.880 then I was probably two months into the show and I was posting in some 721 00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:22.599 Facebook groups and people were like, hey, is this carry with big Foot 722 00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.400 Odyssey? And I'm like, oh shit, I should probably look into that, 723 00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:30.639 and then I discovered carry Ship. So no, he was he was 724 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:32.639 first. But that's how that happened. A lot of people are like, 725 00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:36.000 well, did you just try to steal the name? No, I had 726 00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:38.840 no idea that existed, So there you go. I was just gonna say 727 00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:42.079 the good thing about it. Can you hear me? It's okay, I'm 728 00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.960 on a totally different device. Okay, the good thing but that is you 729 00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:50.119 won't get harp on by Thomas Steinberg and say it should be called Saasquatch Odyssey 730 00:49:50.159 --> 00:50:01.400 not Bigot. Yeah, Sogan, Yeah, Brian. When you as regarding 731 00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:06.000 the apple you put out, you said that was on a stick that was 732 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.039 attached to a sticks and slid it on a stick. Is that correct? 733 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:12.199 Okay? So when you put it on a stick, was it on the 734 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.719 side of the apple? Was the apple up right? But I can actually 735 00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:16.719 try to pull it up if you want me to pull up the photos. 736 00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:20.679 But yeah, I could of cure some soft for cheap. So if you 737 00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:22.960 got that you did not see teeth marks. That was the that was an 738 00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:28.400 interesting thing. I did say that they weren't there though, I mean I 739 00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.880 have hundred I mean I'm surrounded by eight ridges, right apple or tube a 740 00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:38.920 stack, and so I could recognize porcupines on on apple tree. But I 741 00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:43.960 also know if if it's if I could see the fight at my people that 742 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.039 have helped you but fighting, So yeah, I will try. I'm trying 743 00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:51.280 to multitask here and see if I can. I'm try to pull up my 744 00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:53.880 Instagram page and I will show it to you if I can do that and 745 00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:57.360 share my screen. But yeah, I did not see any bite marks, 746 00:50:57.360 --> 00:50:59.800 and that was you know, that was one of the things I thought, 747 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:02.840 I don't see teeth in this, but the apple was really really soft. 748 00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:07.559 Okay, I've got the picture pulled up, so I'm gonna try to use 749 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:12.400 technology here and see if it'll allow me. You'll probably have to approve this, 750 00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.039 but I'm going to share my screen with you. Well, all right, 751 00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:20.639 in Tristan has a question when you get Joe, Yeah, you gotta 752 00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:23.760 see that. Yeah, all right, So that's the there's a couple of 753 00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:30.119 pictures. See no teeth marks, right, that's probably the best picture that 754 00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:34.360 sort of shows you see the stick stuck into the bottom of the apple, 755 00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.519 and it was literally stuck down with the top of the like the this part 756 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:43.719 of the apple was facing upwards obviously, And yeah, I don't know. 757 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.039 Yeah, i'd had to zoom it in, send it, maybe send it 758 00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:50.599 to me or something. Yeah, I'll you want me to, I'll text 759 00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:52.880 it to you. Leon. Usually I would love to know, I mean 760 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:57.400 I would, I would definitely love to know if it's a deer. A 761 00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.519 deer a deer when it baked an apple similar to your own dentires, so 762 00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:05.599 you'll see that where the teeth have gone in and grabbed the especially if it's 763 00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:08.760 front that's moldy too, So I mean, I can I look at my 764 00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:14.000 cell phones so white screening, just blow it up the field. Yeah, 765 00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:16.559 if and it's rotten too, you said, right, Yeah, it was 766 00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:20.079 definitely it was soft when I put it out there, so it'd been out 767 00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.280 at that point by the time you're seeing these photographs, it's probably seven or 768 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:25.519 eight days old outside at this point because I had taken it up on the 769 00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:30.360 fORCH and and it took me a couple of days to send the photos or 770 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:34.519 whatnot. But yeah, it was just weird because it's on that stick stuck 771 00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.719 down in this stump. So a deer would have to like turn its head 772 00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:42.239 and or something picked it up with the stick and bit it and then stuck 773 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:46.920 it back down in there, sick in the exact same spot position and everything. 774 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:51.480 Yeah, yes, because the stump was really soft. It was like 775 00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.039 an old cedar stump, and it's really really soft in the middle, you 776 00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:59.519 know how wood will get it decay and it gets soft, and yeah, 777 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:01.960 it's funky exactly. And so I just stuck it down in there, and 778 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:05.920 I thought, okay, well here it is. The rock wasn't moved. 779 00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:08.800 The rocks still there. I checked it twice today. Nobody's touched the rock, 780 00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:13.920 but the apple was a bit and everybody's asked me. I did not 781 00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:15.440 send it out for DNA. No, I'm not that guy. I think 782 00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:19.800 within the compost. But there you go home. I'll tell you what if 783 00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:22.400 you go If you go back to done day, Brian, and that rock 784 00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:24.920 is gone, and in place of that rock is a new cell phone. 785 00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:31.039 Get in touch with Steve calls because I'm gonna I'll definitely call Steve as soon 786 00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:34.400 as that happens. But you know, when I first started putting that stuff 787 00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:37.039 out, people were saying the occam's raised or answer to this is you had 788 00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.559 a trespasser on your property who wanted to mess with you, right, And 789 00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:45.920 people have asked me how far away is this from the road. We're talking 790 00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:50.920 over a half a mile from the road right off the back of the property, 791 00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:58.679 and it's probably four hundred yards or so from the porch of my house, 792 00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:01.360 so it's a good ways into the woods. And we had we do 793 00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:06.679 have occasionally we had I posted it on Instagram last month, we had somebody 794 00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:08.639 to come up and steal cut a chain on the property, walk up to 795 00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:13.480 within two hundred feet of my house, and steal a camera off of a 796 00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:16.880 area where we've got a generator sitting. So we do have that kind of 797 00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:20.800 stuff. One of my neighbors called me today and sent me a text message 798 00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:23.599 and said, hey, there's two guys with rifles walking your way about twenty 799 00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:28.719 yards into the woods off the road. They're coming your way. Well, 800 00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:31.519 I grabbed my rifle and went out to the investigate, like that's what we 801 00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:36.440 do here. I never saw the guys. They were two properties over from 802 00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.599 me, across from him, there's two other owners that it could have been 803 00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:45.119 hunting on their own property. But I've never seen anybody outside of the one 804 00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:47.880 guy who came up a month or so ago and stole our camera actually on 805 00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:52.679 the property. So I don't think that's a that's a somebody trespassing. Biting 806 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:57.679 a rotted apple is not a viable option for that, You wouldn't think, 807 00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:01.239 though. Yeah, and I I'm sure YO didn't buy it. Yeah, 808 00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:05.920 well, i'd say what, I'm gonna pull up a couple of coilents here. 809 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:10.000 You got definitely some fans in the In the chat, Jeff from Fine 810 00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:15.440 Island says, interesting fact, Brian has done more episodes of his various Channels 811 00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:21.320 shows than all of us from Chat on the Panel, et cetera. All 812 00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.159 put together, hardest working guy in this community. So they were saying, 813 00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:30.199 I'll tell you later. Yeah, give him that you later. Mister Lee 814 00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:34.599 had a question, Eric, He says, Brian, what is your opinion 815 00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:39.840 of different colored orbs different entities? That's a that's an interesting question. I 816 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:45.000 have no freaking clue because I I'm fascinated by the orbs, because I I 817 00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:49.039 think there may be a there there. I just don't know what that they're 818 00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:54.440 there is, you know, lady negative Nancy. But I chronically tell you, 819 00:55:54.599 --> 00:56:00.679 guys, look up or lights. They kind of run your colors. 820 00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:05.239 The size of the UFOs, the side of basketball designed up and the like 821 00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:08.519 little buttons on a cold become in a variety of sizes. There's the reason 822 00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:13.480 for it. They show up quite often, especially random wars would especially be 823 00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:16.760 in your water. And it's Elie. There's a lot of reasons former them 824 00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:21.000 being what they are. I won't tell you what they are. I'll just 825 00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:24.039 wait your reaction. Look up earth lights on and see. Damnit, Leon, 826 00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:29.039 can we not have any fun? You can? But I mean exactly 827 00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:30.360 a mystery to you. Then you would say to you, hey not, 828 00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:32.679 but there's an art. You'd say, well, you got what's older like 829 00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:36.400 it's actually paused by this, And that's how that worked. I didn't come 830 00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:38.119 in braid of forms, especially around volcanoes. They look like they actually go 831 00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:42.840 into valcanoes and outer valcanes like the up Olds. Oh my god, people 832 00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:47.119 recorded you have pos going into valcan What did you call them? It's for 833 00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:53.320 earth eartht like phenomenal. Yeah, And the other thing too is that, 834 00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:57.039 oh I had a thought there. I don't matter what, it doesn't matter. 835 00:56:57.079 --> 00:57:00.159 I'm not talking much night. It similar somebody which is a happening on 836 00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:04.800 ring, but you know, you just want to find out. I do 837 00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:07.760 have a question though, for the apple a gag the apple. I have 838 00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:09.760 a question about the turtle the shelt too. What time of year was it 839 00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:15.440 when you found that when you put that out? Summertime? This was about 840 00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:19.800 a month ago. I'd have to look and see when though, Okay, 841 00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.679 Instagram post was but I think it was. It was about a month ago 842 00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:24.599 or so. Hold on them. I'll tell you exactly when I posted the 843 00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:30.800 Instagram stuff. Maybe I clearly don't know how to work my own Instagram. 844 00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:36.559 Top of having a challenge, October seventeenth, this one, I posted this 845 00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:39.880 on Instagram, so it would have been within a week of that all this 846 00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:45.440 this, I discovered the turtle shield and that that all went down within Did 847 00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:49.039 you say the turtle shaw? What was on? What was it? You 848 00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:51.920 said it was on something? What was Yeah, I'm trying to I'm gonna 849 00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:53.840 try to pull that up and let you look at that too while we're talking. 850 00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:57.920 But it was literally on like a cedar stump. Let me share my 851 00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:00.320 screen again. Sorry, whoever's having to click the No, that's okay, 852 00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:08.039 we're on the fly here present share screen. I hope I wasn't looking at 853 00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:14.920 me anything I wasn't supposed to earlier. Can you see my screen? Okay? 854 00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:19.119 Yeah, all right, So that's not what I wanted to do. 855 00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.519 So that's that's kind of like some of the stuff that I'm seeing as far 856 00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.880 as the structures. But here's the stump. Here's the stump, the famous 857 00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:30.599 stump where the the turtle show was. I'm going to get back to. 858 00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:34.880 There's one that I recorded that actually when I walked up to the turtle show. 859 00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.079 Here's where I walked up to the Turtle Show. So it's it's sitting 860 00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:42.000 there like this, and I'm giving the I'm doing my due diligence here and 861 00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:45.079 giving you a lay of the land. But yeah, it was sitting in 862 00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:49.320 the side of the stump. So and okay, so and this was an 863 00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:52.639 empty turtle show grey oh turtle in the scale anymore. Yeah, there was 864 00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:55.119 I don't know if you could see it in the video, but there's a 865 00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:59.400 little bit of debris. It looked like it had been there for a while, 866 00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:04.480 which confused me because we walked past there at least twice a day and 867 00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:08.199 I'd never noticed this. But otherwise it was bleached out and it looked like 868 00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:12.760 it had been outside for quite a bit, quite a while. I don't 869 00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:15.440 know, man, I don't know how a turtle shell would end up there 870 00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:20.239 unless something with thumbs placed it there. Ye, no money had asked the 871 00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:24.559 chat you think maybe you said you saw the you know, raccoons and stuff. 872 00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:29.559 They asked if the wonder if maybe the raccoons could have put it up 873 00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:31.920 on there. I don't know if there's a possibility of that, but it 874 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:35.440 could be. I mean they picked it close to what you wanted to know 875 00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.639 about. Leon you said you had a question about Well, no, I 876 00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:42.199 just want I mean, there's so much well we need you talking about Octamus 877 00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:45.920 rings are to me hearing that I don't look to Oh, somebody's on your 878 00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:50.760 property. I moved something. It's on your property, and it's more some 879 00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:54.199 type of wild lafe and it's in wildlife playwood while source of stream season like 880 00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:58.719 a turtle shell for instance. And and the other thing too is if something 881 00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:01.760 is eating that m whatever it was inside of that turtle shell. It will 882 01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:06.719 keep. It will come back on a regular basis yearly almost to check it 883 01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.320 out and move it around again. So I'm not disclaiming anything. I'm just 884 01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:15.199 looking at like you said, being objective, you know, and more likely 885 01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:16.800 when I look at the apple to the apple to me doesn't look like it's 886 01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:21.639 done by it. The larger animal looks like but that again I can't see 887 01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:24.199 it because it's I'm like old not but the markings on it aren't the same. 888 01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:29.199 Like I said, I have hundreds of thousands and fifty trees on it. 889 01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.440 So you get to see the wildlife that kind of oats when they're biting 890 01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:35.719 it. The mice but they're biting it. The weasels and boxes and the 891 01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:37.920 black bear, you know, all the others start chomping on. And the 892 01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:42.679 reason why I asked you about the time of year is sometimes what they'll do 893 01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:46.760 is instead of biting it, they'll lick it and pinning on what because it 894 01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:50.840 dip is hotter out that they're trying to get the moisture out of it and 895 01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:53.559 puts it sweet te right, so they're not going to show any teeth mark, 896 01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:57.239 but they'll take the skin off, especially if it's rotted, and so 897 01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:00.519 it looks kind of bizarre when you're looking at you know, assessing it correctly. 898 01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:05.039 Yell, gave your brain trace of what's looking at instill just full of 899 01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:07.519 French like he did, you know, check it out. Look you think 900 01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:09.559 that I don't know, I am with Netherland. Maybe we do have a 901 01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:15.519 squatternnut properly addingverything to choose you and choose that, you know, get the 902 01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:21.239 generator. You get five hundred bucks to generator. Yeah, you're took camera 903 01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:24.480 down like month, stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. Well, 904 01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:31.119 be right back after these messages. So yeah, I don't know, it's 905 01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:37.039 weird man. Yeah. Generally we could rule out that the turtle climbed up 906 01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:43.000 on that stuff itself and then just died. And I guess that's a possibility. 907 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.360 I've never seen turtles climbed up on himself. But well, the other 908 01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:47.800 thing it could be too is that as soon as you said a turtle on 909 01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:51.800 a stump, I went to rate two because we have turtles here as well, 910 01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:54.039 bought to the same size. How big was that show as a half? 911 01:01:54.679 --> 01:02:00.719 I mean it was probably I don't know what five inches by three and 912 01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:04.079 a half or something like that before. So we have crows out here that 913 01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:07.960 grab turtles, pick them up and will drop them on the stumps and then 914 01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:13.519 they'll be on the stump eating the insides at the turtle. So that's one 915 01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.039 other idea too, theous the idea, how could it be from airedful over 916 01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:22.039 there? Well, yet you got to raise the or crowl around here twice 917 01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.719 to say the crows here that to now you know, it's not a big 918 01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:28.719 deeper than ten of things. So I don't know if that's what it was. 919 01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:31.039 They're just saying, I'm open to any any and all suggestions. I'm 920 01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:36.400 definitely not saying it was. I'm just has a collected for you. Bryan 921 01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:40.320 says Brian. Where can we watch the Vice video? Yes, very interesting 922 01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:45.039 question. So I if you're familiar with the Vice network, they have their 923 01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:51.320 own We actually watched it on the Vice network app that you can get on 924 01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:55.480 the on your phone or computer or whatever. I'm sure if it aired on 925 01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:59.760 Vice, if you have cable, you can go back and watch it there 926 01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:01.320 as well. I know they're eventually going to put it out. They have 927 01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:06.559 a pretty large YouTube channel. I think they have about sixteen million subscribers on 928 01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:09.039 the YouTube channel. It'll probably be there over the next year or so, 929 01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:14.440 but it just ahired at the end of March or April of this year, 930 01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:17.679 so I think you have to have a subscription to or you can do like 931 01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:22.679 a one time free watch or something. I don't know. I don't know 932 01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:24.840 how that works, but you can get it on anywhere you can get the 933 01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:30.400 Vice Network. The show is called In My Own World and my episode on 934 01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:35.239 that show was called big Foot Hunters, so you can you can check that 935 01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:38.679 out. Logan, I can't pronounce your last name, Logan, I'm sorry, 936 01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:43.000 wants to know. Apparently you know him, Brian. He says, 937 01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:47.800 when will you head up to radium with me, Kyle Todd and also try 938 01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:52.519 again with an organic, non rotten apple. Well, first of all, 939 01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:54.920 what's up, Logan? Logan has been on my show Super Super Guy, 940 01:03:55.239 --> 01:04:00.800 really great witness, and he's been on a couple of expeditions with standing and 941 01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.719 he's talking about me coming on an ex expedition up to Radium with he and 942 01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:09.559 Todd and Kyle who does the Discovering Bigfoot podcast. I would definitely like to 943 01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:12.239 do that. I tried to work it out this year I've talked about it 944 01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:15.760 on the show. It just didn't work out in the schedule, but hopefully 945 01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:19.400 I'll maybe be banking a trip up to do that next year. So we'll 946 01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:26.360 see awesome decking out and see if there's any other Earlier, somebody had asked 947 01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:30.639 Brian where they could watch his true crime stuff, So the true I do 948 01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:35.039 have a YouTube page. I have a Sasquatch Odyssey YouTube page that's I don't 949 01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:40.280 know, five hundred and fifty or so subscribers. I have not been posting 950 01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:43.320 a ton of stuff over there, but I'm gonna start. I've already started 951 01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:46.480 posting more videos over there. The true Crime stuff is just an audio podcast. 952 01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:50.800 So anywhere you get podcast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google podcast, 953 01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:56.519 iHeartRadio, anywhere you can listen to a podcast, look up True Crime Odyssey 954 01:04:56.559 --> 01:05:00.159 and it's all there. Any any of the shows that I do sasqua Which 955 01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:03.480 Odyssey, True Crime Odyssey, or Paranormal Odyssey or all there. The Weird 956 01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:09.639 Encounters show that I do on the Untold Radio network is YouTube, primarily YouTube, 957 01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:13.639 but you can also get that anywhere you listen to audio podcast as well, 958 01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:16.440 but it's on the Untold. It's under the Untold Radio AM. So 959 01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:20.559 if you're if you're looking for that on podcast, it's Weird Encounters under Untold 960 01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:27.880 Radio AM. And there there are two different links in the description of this 961 01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:31.159 show for Brian also one of that length. One of those links is to 962 01:05:31.559 --> 01:05:39.840 Sasquage Odyssey Channel and the other link is for his show Weird Encounter that I 963 01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:43.960 was on and he's had several people on that'll link do with that which is 964 01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:47.400 on the Unfold Radio. And if there's any other links, Brian that you 965 01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:49.840 want me to put up there, I feel free to s done them, 966 01:05:49.880 --> 01:05:55.360 Billy, and I'll add them in as well. That's pretty got a cross 967 01:05:55.559 --> 01:06:00.440 on you and Nikki from Harry Man Hopes and Brian the Voice Dream Well, 968 01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:05.159 I definitely appreciate that. And yes, Files, guys, the bat mom 969 01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:09.920 is asking them if they are my three robins. Yes, Tyler, Danny 970 01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:13.800 and Josh are all my three robins over there? All right. If you 971 01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:15.800 guys, if you haven't listened to k y X Files, you gotta check 972 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.920 those guys out. They do a really, really cool show. They're actually 973 01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:21.920 I interviewed them again. They've been on the show before and they'll be back 974 01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:26.039 in the next couple of weeks. So they've always got some really really cool 975 01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:30.239 stories though, So Ye'll make sure you check those guys out. Well, 976 01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:32.159 I have to agree with Nikki. You have a dreamy voice, Brian, 977 01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:36.280 Oh, it's it's the five hundred dollars microphone. It's not me. You. 978 01:06:38.199 --> 01:06:41.760 You have a face for radio, as they say, I have a 979 01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:45.760 face for radio, and the five hundred dollars microphone makes me sound dream more. 980 01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:48.320 You definitely do have. Yeah. Well, you know it's easy, 981 01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:51.840 It's easy to talk to you. That's why I enjoyed. I really enjoyed 982 01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:57.599 the interviewer that we did on your show. That was awesome. It's great. 983 01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:01.480 Yeah, Actually, interviews you did with Joe and Tom, I thought 984 01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:08.079 thomas Interview Too was one of Thomas's best interviews real and what's that was a 985 01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:11.639 compliment for sure. Owise it was a great show. He was very systematic, 986 01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:14.559 he was rid and targeted. He a lot of like everything was just 987 01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:20.840 nice, packaged and delivered. Yeah, thins are just garls that I've been 988 01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:27.519 wanted to develop as I go along, as to get better with interviewing too, 989 01:07:28.440 --> 01:07:32.239 as as I get people on to interview Ninja, he says, has 990 01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:38.320 Brian, ever seen any footprints on my property as well as recorded any vocalization. 991 01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:43.679 That's a great question, and no and no. So if you're familiar 992 01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:46.679 with this area, it's all pretty hard packed in these woods. Like we 993 01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:53.199 have almost zero pine trees, so we don't have a bunch of pine needles, 994 01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:58.039 but there is a shiit ton of leaves and unless it's rained. I 995 01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:00.639 mean, there's some really interesting year areas here that we have, like natural 996 01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:05.639 springs that are wet year round, and I literally check those at least a 997 01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:09.800 couple of times a week if I'm out hiking with the dogs, I'll go 998 01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:12.920 over and brush back the leaves and just make sure I don't see any footprints. 999 01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:16.159 Just for shits and giggles, but no. And David Ellis has been 1000 01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:19.359 after me, Oh my god, from the Olympic Project. David has been 1001 01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:24.760 kicking my ass for the last thirteen months to try to get me to put 1002 01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:28.880 it. He's like, just put out one zoom recorder and record on your 1003 01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:31.560 property, and I'm gonna do it. I promise, I'm gonna do it. 1004 01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:35.199 I just haven't done it because I don't have time to listen to the 1005 01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:40.119 audio. Honestly, I don't want to go and pay two hundred bucks for 1006 01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:43.399 a decent recorder and then put it out and record for three or four days 1007 01:08:43.720 --> 01:08:46.279 and then not have time to listen to it. So I almost told David, 1008 01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:49.199 like, if you want to analyze everything, then I'll send it to 1009 01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:51.960 you, but I'll I'll do the recording. So he might do that. 1010 01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:55.319 I don't know he's I think he's David's going to come back on the show 1011 01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:57.560 here in the next couple of months, hopefully if we can work out our 1012 01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:00.640 schedules, so I may propose that to him and maybe do some recording, 1013 01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:04.800 because we do hear some interesting things. Most ninety eight percent of it's coyotes, 1014 01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:09.039 and I think maybe a big cat here and there. But you know, 1015 01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:13.039 we haven't heard the Ohio how stuff. I don't think I've heard that 1016 01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:15.960 since last year. Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I mean 1017 01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:18.720 you never know, man, I mean, if if you do indeed have 1018 01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:24.439 any kind of sasquage that you know whether or not, I mean maybe not, 1019 01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:28.239 you know, just like making that property their home, but at least 1020 01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:32.279 passing through occasionally going from place or whatever, you never know what you might 1021 01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:35.479 record out there. I was a good idea but I don't think that. 1022 01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:45.000 I think that sometimes certain people, for some people anyway, I should say 1023 01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:47.920 that I think they're always about yeah, a lot of a lot of audio. 1024 01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:53.520 I don't think they realize how much work goes into listening to all that 1025 01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:57.319 audio too, because I can tell you what I go out, you know, 1026 01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:00.279 and I could just go out out of three days a camping trip and 1027 01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:06.319 I put out an audio reporter and I can record twelve hours, you know, 1028 01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:10.279 of audio, or if I record all three days, you know, 1029 01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:14.640 I could have up to twenty four hours and you know, audio recording going 1030 01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:17.439 on. And that's a lot to listen to, man, just to try 1031 01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:23.960 to capture something that doesn't sound like it belongs right. So, yeah, 1032 01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:29.279 it takes a lot to do with audio. But again, having said that, 1033 01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:33.000 when there is something that you pit in there, it's it almost makes 1034 01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:35.680 it worth it. When you find some of it, Holy crap, what 1035 01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:42.199 is it that you know? And then then the work is just beginning, 1036 01:10:42.279 --> 01:10:45.439 because now you gotta go, well, I don't know who that is, 1037 01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:49.000 so now I got to look up and try to find out what it could 1038 01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:54.960 be, you know. And so far on batting about a thousand I'm figuring 1039 01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:58.600 out certain things. I've only got one thing that's our shelf that I don't 1040 01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:02.359 know what it is, and I don't think it's faithbook, and considering my 1041 01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:06.119 skepticism about paranormal stuff, I don't know, but I might have to. 1042 01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:10.760 I might have to put it into that realm, even though I'm not even 1043 01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:17.079 sure if that's real or not. Like it's there, so well, you 1044 01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:20.640 should send it over to David Ellis. David could probably take a listen and 1045 01:11:20.840 --> 01:11:26.159 he might be I mean, he's listened to so many different sounds, he 1046 01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:29.239 might come up with something for you. Jim, you said you you had 1047 01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:32.560 done paranormal stuff in the past. Where are you on EVPs because that's really 1048 01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:38.960 the only tangible thing I've ever experienced, like paranormally was. Yeah, I'm 1049 01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:44.239 fully onboard with. And that's what he's got. I always screwed that up. 1050 01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:45.399 That's what he's got. He doesn't want to hear about it. That's 1051 01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:53.479 what he got. He's believer. Yeah, I'm I've done done them when 1052 01:11:53.520 --> 01:12:00.560 we went to the prison, done spearbox thing. You know who when there's 1053 01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:03.800 no one else that can be speaking and there's a voice there speaking of sentence, 1054 01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:10.279 you know you know, it was solidified for me when my sister was 1055 01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:15.439 having this issue where my niece and my nephew, who were much younger at 1056 01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:19.399 the time, we're talking about this old man that they were interacting with in 1057 01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:24.000 their house and she was seeing shadows. My mom had seen shadows that she 1058 01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:28.800 was leaving before. So we went down there and did a paranormal investigation. 1059 01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:33.039 And by that I mean I took my two dogs and my iPhone, and 1060 01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:36.279 you know dogs are sensitive to that kind of stuff, right, So I 1061 01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:40.159 let the dogs running around and you know, for a couple of hours, 1062 01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:45.119 and I'm kind of I don't consider myself a psychic or anything of that, 1063 01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:47.520 but I've been able to feel things in the past, or at least I 1064 01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:50.680 think you walk into places and the hair stands up on the back of your 1065 01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:56.439 neck and you get those feelings and other people really aren't picking up whatever being 1066 01:12:56.479 --> 01:13:00.560 put down, but I'm the person who feels that. So I didn't feel 1067 01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:02.560 anything in this place. I didn't feel uneasy, nothing. We've been there 1068 01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:06.640 for two or three hours. Nothing's happening. So I'm gonna do what I 1069 01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:11.359 do is I'm gonna provoke, right, which is probably the one thing you 1070 01:13:11.399 --> 01:13:15.439 should never do in a paranormal situation, especially it's malevolent, right. But 1071 01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:18.359 I'm walking down the hallway and I'm like, you know, you're scaring my 1072 01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:23.359 nephew. He's a kid. You're supposed to be a grown man. I'm 1073 01:13:23.399 --> 01:13:26.159 a grown man. I'm not scared of you. You can't scare me. 1074 01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:29.520 There's nothing you could do to scare me. I'm not scared of you at 1075 01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:34.000 all. And I'm recording with my iPhone. So I finished provoking, and 1076 01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:39.279 we walked back and we all can huddle up, and I play back the 1077 01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:43.600 recording and I'm like, I'm not scared of you. There's nothing you could 1078 01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:46.159 do to scare me. I'm not scared of you at all. And clear 1079 01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:51.079 as day, crisp and clear, I hear you should be. I was 1080 01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:55.079 out, I was done. I'm like, I'm out. We're out of 1081 01:13:55.119 --> 01:13:59.319 here, clear as day, right. And I've never experienced anything like that. 1082 01:13:59.399 --> 01:14:01.880 I've heard other people, you know, EVPs and you know, spirit 1083 01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:05.840 boxes and those kind of things on the ghost shows or whatnot, but this 1084 01:14:06.159 --> 01:14:11.720 was undeniable. Like even skeptics. My mom's a skeptical, Danny's a skeptic. 1085 01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:15.359 Everybody listening was like, oh, my god, that is creepy. 1086 01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:18.600 I was like, Okay, we're out of here. I'm done. Yeah, 1087 01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:25.680 well, if you've cleaned it up just a little bit, it cleared 1088 01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:30.880 a clean I mean you can hear it over the sound of the background noise. 1089 01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:35.520 Does hey mister, what's up? And I listened to this saying a 1090 01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:41.119 billion times and I can't quite pick out the hey mister part, but I 1091 01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:45.159 think I know what she's talking about. But I definitely hear something that that 1092 01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:49.359 sounds to me like it's saying what's up? Or what's that? And and 1093 01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:54.680 and the more I've listened to it, it does seem like it's closer to 1094 01:14:54.840 --> 01:14:58.159 saying what's up. And I'm like, I don't know what that is because 1095 01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:01.159 it's not a human voice. I can tell you that right now. I 1096 01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:05.439 don't know where it came from, but it was there and it kind of 1097 01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:08.760 creeped me out. And I put it in the background because I'm like, 1098 01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:11.880 that is not sasplots, So there's no way you can trollab me. That's 1099 01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:16.319 a SASPLI I don't believe it. But I was telling you, Joe, 1100 01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:26.199 it's not a big foot, and that's funny. It's funny because you know, 1101 01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:29.680 this is out where I like camp and it's out where I've had my 1102 01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:35.880 encounter with Rostuff, and you know, encountering Roster out there has not been 1103 01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:41.800 enough to actually scare me out of that camping spot. I still go camping 1104 01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:45.840 there, and I go when I go camping there, I still have hopes 1105 01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:49.239 that maybe I'll see them again. But that is the one thing that could 1106 01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:53.560 scare me and go, I'm not going back there. Man. You know, 1107 01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:56.640 if this what if it was able to be proven that this is just 1108 01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:00.279 yeah, because it's creepy. It's just creepy. And that's why it's on 1109 01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:02.399 a back burder right now. It's like if I absis about it too much, 1110 01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:05.479 it's you know, you don't even you want to go to sleep tonight. 1111 01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:10.920 Donald has a question. I'm looking. I'm glad you saw that because 1112 01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:13.600 I wanted to bring that up. So do you think there is something to 1113 01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:17.039 throw the fourteen year olds having these experiences seem to be more than any other 1114 01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:20.880 age bracket? I do because and I say that only because it's come up 1115 01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:25.760 so many times on the show, because I had a lot of experiences between 1116 01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:28.960 that age, and there seems to be something at least paranormally, if you 1117 01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:33.479 believe any of this at all. Paranormally, there's something about like prepubescent and 1118 01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:39.079 pubescent boys and girls that seem to attract the paranormal. I don't know if 1119 01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:42.119 it's just because we're going crazy because of the hormones and we just all make 1120 01:16:42.119 --> 01:16:45.399 a bunch of shit up or what, but there seems to be something to 1121 01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:50.000 that. Leon is probably dying right now. It's like that is absolutely not 1122 01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:53.600 true. Yeah, but no, no, no, I'm saying I'm not 1123 01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:57.760 saying it's not true the definitions you guys are putting on stuff, because you 1124 01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:00.880 know you guys are Oh, well, I'm doing Paranormal Investigator. Yeah, 1125 01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:03.159 well, I investigate para normal too, but I also investigate all their gadgets 1126 01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:06.319 and how they work and all that kind of stuff. So, as a 1127 01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:10.800 polite person, as a guest on the show, I'm just listening to people's 1128 01:17:10.840 --> 01:17:14.640 ideas. That's not saying that you're not experiencing something. I would just be 1129 01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:17.039 caution on the narration that you're placing on it, because I think there's information 1130 01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:21.119 out there you could probably dabble into. Don't be trapped in your own cognitive 1131 01:17:21.239 --> 01:17:26.640 dissidents in regards to wanting to believe in something and the very true and look 1132 01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:30.840 at all sides of everything even when it irks you. That's how you become 1133 01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:34.520 rounded in regards to information and data, and you've become objective and so you're 1134 01:17:34.520 --> 01:17:39.600 not spook whether there's a ghost there or not. At Jen and I talked 1135 01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:42.520 about this. I mean, I've had experience when I was again during that 1136 01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:45.560 cycle point when you're talking about the h thing where you know what, a 1137 01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:50.520 guy followed me all the way We moved to a house on Military basically moved 1138 01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:54.720 to a house and I was woke up to mill and I was crying. 1139 01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:57.560 My mom came upstairs to see what was moving on, and I followed it 1140 01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:00.239 all the way down to the bedroom and was working that night and I wanted 1141 01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:04.119 to sleep a thing because it was too scared, and it followed us all 1142 01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:08.520 later on this apparition like you would see on PB. Followed it all the 1143 01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:11.800 way down and came to the end of the bed in my mom's bed, 1144 01:18:11.840 --> 01:18:15.560 and I remember sitting at the end of the lab with Thosera sheets are player. 1145 01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:19.399 He walks in and he's sitting there looking and I'm just closing, no 1146 01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:25.840 expression on his face, all that kind of translucent gray look that they would 1147 01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:29.720 have as somebody entered up. There was a guy who killed himself in the 1148 01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:32.479 house, So was that the guy? I don't know. My brain would 1149 01:18:32.520 --> 01:18:36.159 have Punoble's thoughts together, But it doesn't mean that that's a factual of what's 1150 01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:40.560 happening. But the problem with the age group you're talking about is it it's 1151 01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:45.319 called the magical stage, and the magic stage of development is your braves still 1152 01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:50.000 separating in order to have a rational brain, logical brain to the magical brain. 1153 01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:53.720 And that's a very confusing time for a lot of kids, and especially 1154 01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:59.359 if you out of abused children. At that age, they've spiritualized the event, 1155 01:18:59.640 --> 01:19:02.920 meaning that somehow they turn around and blame themselves they be happening, that's 1156 01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:06.159 happened, and there, I mean, there's a whole much of that Aderson 1157 01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:12.399 receives about it because I understand I have I know, I like mysteries, 1158 01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:15.039 I like I like ye know, now what kind of stuff. But I 1159 01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:17.640 also know that a fan is in your home and it's one hundred forty eight 1160 01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:21.439 creakings. Oh why is it? Decimals? They didn't get decided camera of 1161 01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:25.600 the exact thing, but everyone in that room will freak out and we'll think 1162 01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:28.680 that there's something, you know, weird and it's crazy, real and cold 1163 01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:30.680 nerds and all feel the same thing. And I said, yeah, but 1164 01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:33.560 the thing I'm noticing is you got a fan, and that fan is going 1165 01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:39.840 to cause you some psychological neurological problems because of the frequency it's on. And 1166 01:19:40.039 --> 01:19:44.000 so you know, there's a great TV show camera what they's called. But 1167 01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:46.880 it's got three different type of people you want on a team like this. 1168 01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:51.479 Once a priest and other guy's a skeptic and another winds as a lawyer. 1169 01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:56.119 I think there's a life at them. So they're always good because they're always 1170 01:19:56.159 --> 01:19:58.760 bantering about every time they come into experience. But it's a good show to 1171 01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:00.840 watch because it shows you some of the dynamics that you can walk into and 1172 01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:04.840 not realize they walking into serf. Like the other day, this door right 1173 01:20:04.920 --> 01:20:10.000 behind me here. I was here with the therapist friend of mine and we're 1174 01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:13.079 exiting over there, sitting over here, and as we were talking, that 1175 01:20:13.319 --> 01:20:15.960 door going down to my basement opened up by itself, like it literally and 1176 01:20:16.439 --> 01:20:19.720 I lived here for twelve ers. That door has never opened up by itself 1177 01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:26.239 and then closed itself. And what the house i'man the apro gyman used to 1178 01:20:26.279 --> 01:20:29.960 be an old Turkey slaughterhouse. Zomi in the middle of the night, I 1179 01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:34.439 can just jo that's just an add on U were sake. But you know, 1180 01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:38.119 like yeah, I could sit there and then every time I see something 1181 01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:41.039 unique, because I'm peaque already in my brain. Why why is that? 1182 01:20:41.119 --> 01:20:43.199 Because they here, you know, eat your door, sports and stuff. 1183 01:20:43.560 --> 01:20:45.800 I have friends who were on TV shows that beats the paran almal stuff, 1184 01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:49.920 and at least to their credit, they tried to bump it all, you 1185 01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:55.359 know, like this one there was funny this one house that was on the 1186 01:20:55.399 --> 01:21:00.279 show. They had a experience where the the people in the house kept saying 1187 01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:04.039 while you could hear baby crying through the vans and stuff like that. So 1188 01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:09.479 he recorded it and I listened to it and like that always said, you 1189 01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:11.159 know what that is? He goes, yeah, you know what it is. 1190 01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:13.640 What do you think it is? It's an owl? And he goes, 1191 01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:16.159 yeah, it's a totally out the reason why they wanted the people wanted 1192 01:21:16.359 --> 01:21:19.520 to be on the show. Now, like it goes back to hopxes. 1193 01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:21.760 You know if you're wanting to find out any kind of actual stuff. It's 1194 01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:26.159 always hopes, its an every right, so it does something matter. They 1195 01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:30.479 wanted that they did them to do a show about their house was because they 1196 01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:35.000 thought they'd get more money if Bill bismanted that, and that's what the end 1197 01:21:35.039 --> 01:21:39.840 they finding out. So, you know, I like any of this kind 1198 01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:42.720 of mystery stuff, but I want to stay whether I've been in with a 1199 01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:48.199 sasquatch, a grizzly or ghosts, I want to figure out what I'm looking 1200 01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:51.079 at and how do you how does one do that? And so I like 1201 01:21:51.279 --> 01:21:55.479 using the scientific method. I like to find out all the things that can 1202 01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:59.119 be. And I'm still in any of those fields that I just mentioned, 1203 01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:03.199 You're still gonna be stuck with a third of it unexplained, and that's where 1204 01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:08.000 you're going to have your problems of figuring out or well, I mean, 1205 01:22:08.239 --> 01:22:14.000 you know playing you know, some of the spear box apps you can put 1206 01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:19.159 on your phone, they're connected to somewhere right so there as blue there people 1207 01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:25.000 can be listening and make it sound like whatever you're you're speaking about. But 1208 01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:32.399 if you're taking an actual fierbox, yeah and running something that's playing backwards through 1209 01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:36.159 it and you're still getting forward clear speech. Oh you can get the same 1210 01:22:36.199 --> 01:22:39.920 way. We look where you just said if you run something backwards, so 1211 01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:42.760 you can get something clear speech. Yeah, well you can run something backwards 1212 01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:45.479 and get clear speech running backwards too, like for instance, brock Lucy back 1213 01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:51.119 in the eighties where you have like the with a lot of the the shock 1214 01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:57.800 old, the hatchecks and the spear boxes that you can buy. Now it'll 1215 01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:02.359 cycle through what is it like a second every second it changes the station. 1216 01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:09.800 Let's yes, can run the audio backwards at the same time. If you 1217 01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:14.479 had both of those things going on, and you're getting something that's cycling every 1218 01:23:14.560 --> 01:23:17.359 second, so it's not staying on any one thing long enough to get a 1219 01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:23.319 word out, but you're still getting speech. Where does that Olivia, Well, 1220 01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:26.159 I've amazing at one point is first of all, I'd grab the box. 1221 01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:28.319 I would check out the box, brand name, I would check out 1222 01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:31.000 what the frequency was for the brown, how that worked, that whole thing 1223 01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:33.720 worked. I wouldn't just oh, here's the spirit box, dude, I'm 1224 01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:38.399 sought up by you just hearing the title spirit box. So as a good 1225 01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:42.039 investigator, I have to look at all those things I just did documentary last 1226 01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:45.600 year on Stakhalo's Mound, and one of the ones we talked about what in 1227 01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:50.159 that documentary was about the paranormal investigators. You know that they're all dressed like 1228 01:23:50.239 --> 01:23:54.279 they looked like they were military gear and stuff, but don't tend them down 1229 01:23:54.319 --> 01:23:56.800 to shot at it to look for a spit and because they're all scared, 1230 01:23:56.920 --> 01:24:02.560 you know. And but you're saying it's the same. See this is that 1231 01:24:02.680 --> 01:24:05.840 thing? Is that that when you're dealing with any kind of truth, thing 1232 01:24:05.920 --> 01:24:11.920 that we would hold here, including myself, is there's there's this offering miss 1233 01:24:11.960 --> 01:24:15.119 that comes over us because we feel challenge, but we build unknown not listening 1234 01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:17.920 or I don't agree. I'm not coming not angle at all. I'm just 1235 01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:23.359 saying from my perspective, if any it comes across any kind of thought. 1236 01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:26.279 There's a good documentary online right now. You guys should watch it. It's 1237 01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:29.079 three hours long, but it's cut down to three hour right into pieces. 1238 01:24:29.119 --> 01:24:32.680 I sent it to Joe Blach and it's called The Ancient Astronauts de Bumped and 1239 01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:36.840 it's about that whole TV series and it's a great one to watch because if 1240 01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:42.000 you watch it, you'll see how narration is terribly how the human condition is 1241 01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:47.520 terribly vulnerable to narration, especially if you're seeing it in the authority way such 1242 01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:51.800 as TV. Those shows are TV. That part of that idea of how 1243 01:24:53.159 --> 01:24:56.479 you know when you get shows like that that are online and they're ancient, 1244 01:24:56.760 --> 01:25:00.920 you know, some agent Astercress series believed well, whole range an astronauts theories 1245 01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.479 for all, who are they? Well, what kind of schooling debate that 1246 01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:06.439 may's schooling or is it a bunch of thoughts? A nice idea, But 1247 01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:11.920 what it does is it will show you that how your brain because when I 1248 01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:15.399 watch social shows too, I like watching rows like that because it shows techniques 1249 01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:20.239 that people use to try to pull you and and and some aren't trying to 1250 01:25:20.319 --> 01:25:23.399 pull you at all. And a lot of people that I eat what that 1251 01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:27.439 are talking to me about. There's a country, sasquatch. I don't think 1252 01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:30.640 they're being deceptive. I don't think they're being closer sir. They've got a 1253 01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:33.319 puzzle to try to make growth. It's not going to help me the same 1254 01:25:33.359 --> 01:25:36.760 way if I'm dealing in my professional with mental health people that they have a 1255 01:25:36.840 --> 01:25:40.479 puzzle in the house that has to be solved. But everyone's too great. 1256 01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:45.039 Say dad's an alcoholic. Dad's an alcoholic. That's from all the dollars when 1257 01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:47.800 I do that, you know, because that means we have to or have 1258 01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:51.039 a kid. That's if you're a person, a younger kid, and you're 1259 01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:55.560 a younger person, you're storking addiction. They said, you do recovery. 1260 01:25:55.640 --> 01:25:59.119 Well, the problem is good Cover Center is going to say the whole systems 1261 01:25:59.159 --> 01:26:00.319 sick. Well, I don't know, we're not sick. He said, 1262 01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:03.840 fix him. We'll fix it. It'll fix us, relating to him, 1263 01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:09.560 because there's a dancing there. So but it is you're right, then it 1264 01:26:09.800 --> 01:26:13.560 is, you know, Brian. I mean, I want to have these 1265 01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:16.119 discussions. I can't have one certain channels. I love it. I want 1266 01:26:16.159 --> 01:26:21.800 to forever forevermore. I want Leon to now be Leon the equalizer. He 1267 01:26:23.039 --> 01:26:26.600 is the equalizer in every conversation. And I do love that. I love 1268 01:26:26.680 --> 01:26:30.640 the challenge of because I do fall victim to that. Sometimes I try to 1269 01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:36.079 be very objective and very skeptical about everything, but you get bogged down in 1270 01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:41.039 the minutia sometimes of your own stuff, and it's like you do fall prey 1271 01:26:41.119 --> 01:26:45.319 to that paradolia. All these things can creep into your life when you don't 1272 01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:49.800 want it to, and the only voice kind of saying it out there. 1273 01:26:49.840 --> 01:26:54.359 The problem is you you're beaut as a negative Nancy, whereas I am just 1274 01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:58.720 as receptive. That's why I'm sharing these ideas so that you're not as set, 1275 01:26:59.439 --> 01:27:01.720 meaning that you're not going to fall into your own thing. I'm not 1276 01:27:01.800 --> 01:27:05.600 gonna follow my own thing. The reason why we have a network channels where 1277 01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:09.399 we talk about this stop because that I can say, Joe, what do 1278 01:27:09.439 --> 01:27:12.159 you think? Steve? Here's what do you think? Brent, what do 1279 01:27:12.199 --> 01:27:16.760 you think? Fallows Sean. It's from iving the Shadow Sasquad arts Sasquad shadows 1280 01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:19.800 that right, I can't remember Ga Meruin's name. That's out there. But 1281 01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:24.800 the idea about using community is about that. You know, the problem is 1282 01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:30.199 I don't. I mean, it's nice to find people trying to think out 1283 01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:32.800 of the box, and that's all we're asking the box. You know, 1284 01:27:33.279 --> 01:27:36.079 life's pretty marvel It's just the way it is. We don't have to spiritualize 1285 01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:41.520 it. Everything we thought was spiritual first we find it later on after we 1286 01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:44.520 find out what it is, we realize it's not spiritual, so it was 1287 01:27:44.640 --> 01:27:47.239 supernatural. Just makes sense not. We just don't know what why I was 1288 01:27:47.279 --> 01:27:51.239 doing it or so anyway, sorry stories maybe or maybe that person was Ray. 1289 01:27:51.479 --> 01:27:57.079 Don't don't add the mic the leono. No, I'm not gonna have 1290 01:27:57.119 --> 01:28:02.039 a pizza find that. Bob says, she loves that when you do that. 1291 01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:08.000 You said a girl voice on steroids or something. Well, there was 1292 01:28:08.119 --> 01:28:12.520 a chat. I've tried to keep up with your questions and I've been watching 1293 01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:15.239 occasionally trying to pay attention. Child. You did have a follow He had 1294 01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:19.680 a follow up question, quickball question. He said, have you ever heard 1295 01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:26.079 I'm the property anything that you've all or term as wood Knox or any kind 1296 01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:30.159 of like chatter, that kind of thing. No, people have asked me 1297 01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:34.319 that in the past about wood Knox in particular, and no, I've never 1298 01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:40.319 heard anything I would consider I've done Knox, probably after a couple of glasses 1299 01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:42.600 of wine. I may or may not have won out and knocked up a 1300 01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:47.760 couple of threes. But that's one of those things that I don't necessarily subscribe 1301 01:28:47.800 --> 01:28:51.039 to either, is the wooden knock thing. You know, I've had tons 1302 01:28:51.039 --> 01:28:55.960 of people on the show that claim they've heard wood Knox, and I think 1303 01:28:56.039 --> 01:28:59.880 Pat from squatsch Talk recently even posted something about he had a wooden knock encounter. 1304 01:29:00.199 --> 01:29:02.039 He sent me a message about his woodknock and counter which I want to 1305 01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:04.199 get into with him. I certainly want to have him on the show and 1306 01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:11.000 talk about it. But I don't necessarily subscribe to bigfoot doing wood knocks because 1307 01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:13.640 I don't think it's just like that, very much like the tree structures we 1308 01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:16.800 were talking about earlier. I don't think anybody's ever had a situation where they 1309 01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:23.079 actually witnessed a big foot or sasquatch either making a tree structure and or doing 1310 01:29:23.119 --> 01:29:26.600 a woodknock. And then I've had people like Drown Moorehead and other people on 1311 01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:30.920 the show that have sort of these theories about maybe they're doing it with their 1312 01:29:30.279 --> 01:29:34.920 tongue or their mouth, or its teeth clacking or maybe even rock clacking things 1313 01:29:34.960 --> 01:29:39.920 like that. I don't know. I'm just not totally there with the woodknock 1314 01:29:40.039 --> 01:29:43.960 thing. But no, outside of we have these really big I can't remember 1315 01:29:44.359 --> 01:29:49.359 that the name is escaping me. We have these really huge woodpeckers that they're 1316 01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:55.760 pilated. I can't aliate it yet. Affiliated woodpeckers. They're beautiful, and 1317 01:29:55.840 --> 01:29:58.600 we have them on the property and we hear them all the time. But 1318 01:29:58.720 --> 01:30:02.000 it's clearly a woodpecker making these noises. And I've heard people subs or describe 1319 01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:08.319 what they thought was wood knocks as these really rapid, faster than any human 1320 01:30:08.399 --> 01:30:12.279 could ever do wooden knocks. I'm like, well, that's a woodpecker. 1321 01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:16.279 Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see moving right back after these messages. 1322 01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:26.399 Yeah, yeah, and there's yeah, the affiliated woodpecker, and you are. 1323 01:30:26.800 --> 01:30:30.079 It's a long way off right when they do, they're not right around 1324 01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:31.800 the corner, and you can hear it pretty clearly. But these things are 1325 01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:36.520 like I don't know, birds there maybe two or three four pounds. I 1326 01:30:36.560 --> 01:30:45.159 mean that's huge. Yeah, actually interesting interesting Venett trivia woody woodpecker was actually 1327 01:30:45.159 --> 01:30:48.119 affiliated woodpecker though they're just a little bit of a boat to keep in your 1328 01:30:48.159 --> 01:30:50.800 hat. Yeah, they're beautiful birds if you get to see them a person 1329 01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:55.199 there, Yeah, there they are, and and man, can they make 1330 01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:58.760 some noise. That's true with the wooden knock thing. And I agree with 1331 01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:02.399 you other woodenknock thing. I've heard certain ones that sounded very interesting to me, 1332 01:31:03.359 --> 01:31:08.359 like what in the hell was that you know, a lot of people 1333 01:31:08.479 --> 01:31:14.399 bring up this thing about the Louisville slugger sound. Now I've had that happen. 1334 01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:17.880 I've heard that a few times with myself going what in the hell unless 1335 01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:24.560 it is somebody with a baseball bat out here smacking a tree. But yeah, 1336 01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:27.279 I mean, I don't know. Do I think it's a possibility that 1337 01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:30.079 maybe they could if sasquatch were to do it, why would they be doing 1338 01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:36.680 it. Maybe it's some form of non verbal communication between them. Maybe possibly, 1339 01:31:36.840 --> 01:31:41.960 But again, there's no real proof that. The best thing you can 1340 01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:45.840 do is okay five record them, and you know, guess what, go 1341 01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:48.199 towards wherever you're hearing see if you can see what's doing it. That's all 1342 01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:53.119 I can say. Now that's easier said than done at night. During the 1343 01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:56.760 daytime I hear would not sure. I'm probably gonna go towards wherever it is 1344 01:31:57.239 --> 01:32:00.560 at night. I'm not so sure if I want to go trape up into 1345 01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:03.479 the dark, fooky woods at night looking for a wood knock, because what 1346 01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:08.840 if it is? What if it's a dog man? Oh No, I 1347 01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:12.399 don't know about dog man knocking. I've never earned that though. And Jeff, 1348 01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:15.800 you said you had a question. If you're still the chat you, 1349 01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:19.079 Jeff said he had asked a question about something to do with your experience in 1350 01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:25.680 a law enforcement If you'd like to ask that question again, I would certainly 1351 01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:30.279 keep my eye open for it if you want to ask that question. So 1352 01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:34.000 what I would like to know is now in your time, and you don't 1353 01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:40.319 have to name any names or anything. I just asked it again. It's 1354 01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:45.159 in off chaps. Am I missing it somewhere? You're old? I am, 1355 01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:54.520 obviously because I'm trying this fine, I'm looking for it and don't see 1356 01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:58.800 it. Yeah, I scrolled back a bit too to it either. Are 1357 01:32:58.880 --> 01:33:02.640 you just nussing? Would Jeff tild you just follow questions like he usually? 1358 01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:06.920 Is that good thing? Bless me? That's an interesting thing. Do you 1359 01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:11.920 think there's such a thing as a bigfoot ghost? Well? I don't know. 1360 01:33:12.279 --> 01:33:16.279 Some interesting questions. Well, now, while we're waiting to see if 1361 01:33:16.520 --> 01:33:19.600 Jeff ever actually puts up this question, I can't buy it. Jeff. 1362 01:33:19.680 --> 01:33:24.880 Sorry, I don't know whether you're copy and paste Jeff copy and paste? 1363 01:33:25.039 --> 01:33:30.439 Are you? Oh you gotta boy? You gotta boy? Oh man? 1364 01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:34.039 Yeah? Yeah, So you don't have to name names or anything like that. 1365 01:33:34.479 --> 01:33:39.239 You know, oh you can if you want to. But I'm interesting 1366 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:44.399 to know out of the people that you've interviewed, especially like I'm a weird 1367 01:33:44.520 --> 01:33:47.520 encounters thing, it was like, some of the most credible or what are 1368 01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:53.760 some of the most credible things that you've heard in your opinion? Ump custom 1369 01:33:53.800 --> 01:33:57.279 Wall comes to a big book thing. Most credible It's hard to say. 1370 01:33:57.760 --> 01:34:00.600 I mean, I think I said it. I kind of alluded to it 1371 01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:03.880 earlier. I think everybody who comes on the show in their own way are 1372 01:34:03.960 --> 01:34:10.000 credible because they truly believe that they've had their experiences. I think there was 1373 01:34:10.039 --> 01:34:14.680 a lady from Tennessee that I had on recently that a lot of people reacted 1374 01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:17.399 to, and it kind of surprised me. I think her name is Carrie. 1375 01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:20.640 I met her a couple of years ago at the Smoking Mountain Big THO 1376 01:34:20.760 --> 01:34:27.039 conference and she went on stage and shared her store and I immediately when she 1377 01:34:27.119 --> 01:34:29.920 came off stage, I went up and I wasn't there as a vendor. 1378 01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:31.720 I was just there to check out the conference. That was the first time 1379 01:34:31.720 --> 01:34:34.199 I'd ever been, and I handed my card and I said, hey, 1380 01:34:34.239 --> 01:34:38.520 I'd do a Sasquatch encounter show. I'd love to have you on to share 1381 01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:42.039 your encounter, and she wasn't ready. You know, she did it there, 1382 01:34:42.680 --> 01:34:45.720 but it was sort of a you know, you're up in this big 1383 01:34:45.840 --> 01:34:49.520 room and it's a big stage. But she felt safe doing it there for 1384 01:34:49.640 --> 01:34:55.319 whatever reason. But it was different sitting down behind a microphone and doing it 1385 01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:59.800 on the show. So it took her about a year and a half for 1386 01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:01.159 her to reach back out to me and say, I think I'm ready to 1387 01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:08.520 sell my story. And she had some really compelling encounters and experiences, face 1388 01:35:08.600 --> 01:35:13.960 to face encounters, some vocalization things that went on, some you know, 1389 01:35:14.159 --> 01:35:16.920 some things that were pretty subjective that could be other things or whatnot. But 1390 01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:21.439 she was a very compelling witness. And I've had tons I mean we're two 1391 01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:26.800 hundred and thirty plus episodes in on the show. You know, I go 1392 01:35:26.960 --> 01:35:33.199 back to probably less Stroud survivor Man is one of the most compelling guests that 1393 01:35:33.279 --> 01:35:38.479 I've had on the show because he's known for other things other than Bigfoot, 1394 01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:41.920 and he's had a couple of experiences. He's been out with odd standing, 1395 01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:45.560 which is kind of a thing in the end and of itself, and he's 1396 01:35:45.760 --> 01:35:49.239 I really believe what Less has to say. You know, I don't think 1397 01:35:49.279 --> 01:35:55.199 he's BSS and me on his stories. I've had some pretty out there encounter 1398 01:35:55.359 --> 01:36:00.479 stories, but there's it's it's hard to pin down what's the most credible, 1399 01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:05.720 you know, it's more about what's more sensational. Is what really tends to 1400 01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:10.640 stick out most of the time. Because Buddy, I felt like I've had 1401 01:36:10.680 --> 01:36:13.560 on the show, if at least compelled me enough to have them on the 1402 01:36:13.640 --> 01:36:15.920 show, So in and of itself, it's a compelling story for me, 1403 01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:19.479 if if that may be any sense whatsoever. Yeah, absolutely, you asked 1404 01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:24.079 what was he going to ask me? Okay, here we go, and 1405 01:36:24.520 --> 01:36:28.680 Jeffie's using some code words, which I've figured out at least most of it. 1406 01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:32.399 As as a law enforcement officer. Took me a minute to figure out 1407 01:36:32.439 --> 01:36:39.960 what he meant by leo law enforcement officer as Brian ever had an RP, 1408 01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:44.199 and I'm still trying to figure out what that means, claim to have an 1409 01:36:44.279 --> 01:36:47.640 encounter with Bigfoot or the paranormal. He's probably saying, if I ever had 1410 01:36:47.640 --> 01:36:54.239 anybody like called the police and say they've had an encounter with something CRYPTI related, 1411 01:36:54.359 --> 01:36:57.159 and the answer that that would if that's the case, Jeff would be 1412 01:36:57.279 --> 01:37:00.680 No, I worked in the city of Atlanta. People have asked me that 1413 01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:04.439 question before, if I had encounters with the paranormal while on duty or had 1414 01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:09.920 other people call about paranormal encounters while on duty. No, I was in 1415 01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:15.800 a big metropolitan area, downtown Atlanta. I worked in Buckhead if you're familiar 1416 01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:17.920 with that area. And then I was downtown at the CNN Center where I 1417 01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:23.000 closed out my career in midtown Atlanta. So not a whole lot of Bigfoot 1418 01:37:23.039 --> 01:37:27.159 activity downtown Atlanta. There's a lot of other activities downtown Atlanta, but not 1419 01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:30.000 big Foot or Crypti related. So No, I've never had anybody call and 1420 01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:33.319 say, you know, we've had weird alarm calls and things like that that 1421 01:37:33.359 --> 01:37:39.600 couldn't really be explained, you know, and my paranormal investigator brain always went 1422 01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:42.479 to, why does this alarm keep going off and there's nobody in there? 1423 01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:45.880 Could it be a ghost? Now, I've never had anybody actually called and 1424 01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:48.039 say they've reported that. Yeah, I was a good question, because I 1425 01:37:48.199 --> 01:37:53.399 was. I had had that question, of course, you know, being 1426 01:37:53.680 --> 01:37:57.079 the age that I'm getting to now, and i'd forgotten. But yeah, 1427 01:37:57.199 --> 01:38:00.000 I had been interested as to whether, as during your time as a while 1428 01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:03.319 offorseman officer, if you didn't got any calls about man, I just saw 1429 01:38:03.439 --> 01:38:08.640 this big hairy thing run through mile Yard and you you know, kind of 1430 01:38:08.680 --> 01:38:12.560 like that that nine one one call you here played. You know that guy 1431 01:38:12.640 --> 01:38:15.000 going I don't know what this is. You better get somebody over here, 1432 01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:18.039 you know, and they keep saying asking him, is that a guy? 1433 01:38:18.159 --> 01:38:21.079 He's like, oh God, I guess it's a guy. He's hute, 1434 01:38:21.239 --> 01:38:26.239 he's you know, I was just wondered. So that's that's that's funny. 1435 01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:30.119 I love that part of the call of he he's looking for right at me 1436 01:38:30.159 --> 01:38:34.479 and the lady goes one, oh yeah, I play that that that has 1437 01:38:34.560 --> 01:38:38.720 been I've tried to change the intro of the show in the past, and 1438 01:38:38.880 --> 01:38:42.439 my listeners just will not have it. They love that part of the nine 1439 01:38:42.479 --> 01:38:45.720 on one call because I played the majority of the call throughout the intro of 1440 01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:48.279 the show, and I know, like West at Sasquatch Chronicles, he uses 1441 01:38:48.319 --> 01:38:51.119 like five or six seconds at the end where the guy's talking about it. 1442 01:38:51.199 --> 01:38:56.159 But I tried to do a lead up to what because this was a this 1443 01:38:56.359 --> 01:38:59.560 was like an odyssey It was a journey for this guy because he had called 1444 01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:03.079 MU times this thing killed his dog, or he believed it killed his dog 1445 01:39:03.119 --> 01:39:08.359 and threw his dog over the fence. He was a Nam, he was 1446 01:39:08.399 --> 01:39:13.399 a Vietnam veteran, and he since passed. I believe rest his soul. 1447 01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:15.960 But that was the thing about this, this whole thing, was he's calling 1448 01:39:16.039 --> 01:39:19.279 and documenting this and he's like, yeah, this thing is like seven feet 1449 01:39:19.319 --> 01:39:24.399 tall, and there's something going on here. There's a there's a there there, 1450 01:39:24.479 --> 01:39:27.880 And I believe why I don't believe. I know that Ron Moore had 1451 01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:30.960 actually interviewed the guy before he passed away, and Ron felt him to be 1452 01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:34.319 very credible as a witness, Like he did not want to come forward, 1453 01:39:34.359 --> 01:39:38.720 he didn't want his name out there, but he was very clear and what 1454 01:39:38.840 --> 01:39:42.199 he saw, and what he saw was a big, hairy thing that was 1455 01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:45.720 in his yard. So yeah, that's a nine one one caller. It 1456 01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:47.640 gets me every time every time I listened to Trow the show, it's like, 1457 01:39:48.079 --> 01:39:55.520 yeah, She's like, oh yeah. I'd always wondered whether that was 1458 01:39:55.600 --> 01:39:59.600 an actual nine one one fall, you know, or if it had been 1459 01:39:59.680 --> 01:40:03.720 something that you know, was just made for you know, TV basically, 1460 01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:08.119 but yeah, because I mean it definitely sounds like the guy is like, 1461 01:40:08.880 --> 01:40:11.039 you know, I mean it, you know, because I was like, 1462 01:40:11.399 --> 01:40:15.159 well, if it's not real, he's sure as an actor, you know, 1463 01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:18.279 because he sounded scared and concerned, like this thing has turned down his 1464 01:40:18.439 --> 01:40:23.520 lights and he's like he's you know, he was a hundred percent legit because 1465 01:40:23.520 --> 01:40:26.159 you can hear it in the part of a part that it's on mine, 1466 01:40:26.479 --> 01:40:29.239 like when he sees this thing stand up in his yard, he's like, 1467 01:40:29.399 --> 01:40:31.800 yeah, ah, like he's having this reaction like get the hell out of 1468 01:40:31.880 --> 01:40:35.039 here. Yeah, you need to get somebody out here. Now. She's 1469 01:40:35.079 --> 01:40:40.079 like, where it is? I guess yeah, I got a couple of 1470 01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:42.760 questions here. I want to get to this one first before it gets the 1471 01:40:42.880 --> 01:40:46.079 other one. But do I x fous says Brian had he looked into Scott 1472 01:40:46.159 --> 01:40:50.479 Carpenter's stuff. His portal stuff is pretty wild. I made my wife, 1473 01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:56.399 professional photographer, dissect his videos with me. I have not looked into that. 1474 01:40:56.600 --> 01:41:02.079 I have peripheral I guess peripheral fully or peripherally heard of Scott Confenter, 1475 01:41:02.119 --> 01:41:05.479 but I've never looked into his stuff. But I definitely will. I will 1476 01:41:05.560 --> 01:41:09.680 make a note of that to check it out for sure. Yeah, you 1477 01:41:09.800 --> 01:41:13.199 know my opinion. I'm not going to go there because that question was for 1478 01:41:13.279 --> 01:41:15.920 you. So yeah, I mean, you know you gotta look at stuff 1479 01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:20.239 though, I do it, Bree. That's why I'm constantly looking at everything 1480 01:41:20.319 --> 01:41:24.800 that I can, just in case somebody chums up with some comes up for 1481 01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:28.279 something that I can go, oh brat. Maybe I've been looking at this 1482 01:41:28.359 --> 01:41:31.560 wrong. Well, I see Donald's already talking about some photoshop, so there's 1483 01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:34.159 there's gotta be something. There's gotta be a there there, so I'll definitely 1484 01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:41.840 look into mister Scott. Yeah. Now the other one was I mean, 1485 01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:45.680 just does this well? I mean, people are so curious all the time 1486 01:41:45.720 --> 01:41:49.279 about it. Did you also had a questions? Both questions? Good guy, 1487 01:41:49.880 --> 01:41:55.119 and he wants to know what your thoughts are. I'm the big film. 1488 01:41:55.840 --> 01:42:00.319 Oh boy, that's a rabbit hole in and of itself. I'll be 1489 01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:03.079 I'll be brief it. I say, five days out of seven I believe 1490 01:42:03.159 --> 01:42:09.279 it's a real sasquatch. But I'm still there's still those couple of days a 1491 01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:13.159 week I look at it and could that be Bob Hoeronymous in the suit? 1492 01:42:14.119 --> 01:42:17.119 I'm thinking so. But I tell you I had Thomas and Joe and Leon. 1493 01:42:17.239 --> 01:42:24.359 You guys both know Thomas he was talking about the inner MEMBERL. Correct 1494 01:42:24.439 --> 01:42:28.800 me, I'm I'm probably not saying that right, INTERMEMBERL or whatever. Index 1495 01:42:29.359 --> 01:42:32.159 Basically, it's it's got to do with the length of the legs versus the 1496 01:42:32.359 --> 01:42:35.439 arms, right, And he was he was talking about that. I know 1497 01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:41.279 Thinker Thunker has done a breakdown of the PG film in the past, and 1498 01:42:41.880 --> 01:42:46.279 he's pretty convinced that that's a real creature as far as a sasquatch it's concerned 1499 01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:50.039 in in the video. Again, I just I have my doubts, you 1500 01:42:50.159 --> 01:42:55.800 know, I just I'm not And then there was this whole scuttle butt recently. 1501 01:42:56.359 --> 01:42:58.439 Yeah, I had Steve calls on the show a couple of times, 1502 01:42:58.520 --> 01:43:00.720 and Steve, one of the reasons he can back to the show was to 1503 01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:05.319 talk about this whole kerfuffle, I guess, for lack of a better word, 1504 01:43:05.920 --> 01:43:12.199 around the Pucci film and the possibility of this some sort of admission by 1505 01:43:12.279 --> 01:43:15.760 Bob Gimlin that it was faked or whatever the case may be. It was 1506 01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:21.039 something to do with richter Riolo or whatever. I don't know this this this 1507 01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:25.680 whole thing, and at the end of the day, I came down on 1508 01:43:25.760 --> 01:43:29.600 the side of you know, I don't I don't necessarily think Bob has admitted 1509 01:43:29.640 --> 01:43:34.720 that it's fake, but I'm still not one hundred percent convent that it's real. 1510 01:43:35.520 --> 01:43:40.319 And everybody runs a gablet on that. You know, there have been 1511 01:43:40.439 --> 01:43:45.199 times in my life where I was one hundred percent shore, and then there's 1512 01:43:45.279 --> 01:43:47.600 times where I went I kind of waffled, what no, I no, 1513 01:43:47.760 --> 01:43:51.199 no, what about this? And then I went right back to oh, 1514 01:43:51.319 --> 01:43:56.000 no, no, no, it's a sas Glige And I'm pretty much there 1515 01:43:56.159 --> 01:44:00.359 still. I mean, I believe it's real, but it's this point I 1516 01:44:00.520 --> 01:44:04.800 think I mentioned myself on some podcast, maybe mine, maybe somebody else's that 1517 01:44:05.079 --> 01:44:09.680 you know, at this point, you know, fifty five years or so 1518 01:44:10.239 --> 01:44:15.600 gone by that it's either real, and I and those of us has thought 1519 01:44:15.640 --> 01:44:18.000 it's real. We've been right all this time, and if it's not, 1520 01:44:18.199 --> 01:44:24.279 it doesn't really matter to me because even if it wasn't real, which I 1521 01:44:24.439 --> 01:44:29.000 just see. I don't know Bob given personally like Tom Thomas does, and 1522 01:44:29.920 --> 01:44:32.439 but I just don't feel like the man is lying about anything, you know, 1523 01:44:32.600 --> 01:44:39.680 I just don't get that feeling from him and having my own encounter which 1524 01:44:39.960 --> 01:44:44.159 lends into it. Because even if that turns out that it wasn't and somehow 1525 01:44:45.199 --> 01:44:49.159 Bob himself was hoped, that doesn't that's not going to mean the big Boot 1526 01:44:49.199 --> 01:44:55.520 isn't real to me because I've seen one. So you know that's where I've 1527 01:44:55.600 --> 01:44:59.800 stand on that. Well, that's the thing I've always said, if for 1528 01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:03.439 for some reason something happened, say Bob came out and wrote a letter and 1529 01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:09.800 gave it to Russell Accord, and Bob passes away next year and the Red 1530 01:45:10.239 --> 01:45:14.319 we read the letter out loud on Facebook, it was all a hoax. 1531 01:45:14.760 --> 01:45:19.039 It doesn't mean that because Patty isn't real. Bigfoot isn't real. Right, 1532 01:45:19.399 --> 01:45:23.800 If they're two different things and people seem to get that mixed up, it's 1533 01:45:23.800 --> 01:45:28.039 like if people have been so protective for so many years of the Patterson Gimblin 1534 01:45:28.119 --> 01:45:31.079 film, it can be fake and Bigfoot can still be real. So there 1535 01:45:31.119 --> 01:45:34.600 are two separate things. Well, I think the thing that sticks in my 1536 01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:39.000 crawl is I've seen so many breakdowns and I've done it. I know Leon 1537 01:45:39.119 --> 01:45:42.399 has been into this too. I was trained as an interrogator. As a 1538 01:45:42.439 --> 01:45:45.439 police officer. And there's a lot of things that you can look at as 1539 01:45:45.479 --> 01:45:49.159 far body language and eye movement and all kinds of things when people are telling 1540 01:45:49.239 --> 01:45:54.239 stories to see if they're being real or honest or not. And I've seen 1541 01:45:54.319 --> 01:45:58.159 breakdowns where people have broken down. How Bob has changed his stories. Things 1542 01:45:58.199 --> 01:46:01.479 have fluctuated over the years. But the man's in his nineties at this point. 1543 01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:05.159 So if he tells the same story, I tell a story about the 1544 01:46:05.279 --> 01:46:09.279 story I told you earlier about twelve years old. Did I get some of 1545 01:46:09.319 --> 01:46:13.199 the facts wrong? Absolutely, I'm sure. I can't tell you what time 1546 01:46:13.239 --> 01:46:16.119 of day it was. I can't tell you what the date was. So 1547 01:46:16.520 --> 01:46:20.319 there's a lot of things that get lost in translation over time. Have I 1548 01:46:20.479 --> 01:46:25.840 got the feeling that Bob's lying? No, I've never even met Bob. 1549 01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:30.960 But you know, all we really have to go on, honestly, is 1550 01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:34.920 that fifty nine seconds or sixty seconds of film, and it has been broken 1551 01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:40.960 down next to the Subruder film. It's it's probably the most viewed thing and 1552 01:46:41.199 --> 01:46:45.800 most talked about thing ever as far as film is concerned. And there's nobody 1553 01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:48.479 that's ever been able to come out and definitively say this is fake and this 1554 01:46:48.720 --> 01:46:56.000 is why. And again nobody's come forward with the suit. Didn't produce the 1555 01:46:56.079 --> 01:46:59.560 suit. The guy who says here in North Carolina, not too far from 1556 01:46:59.600 --> 01:47:01.720 me, who said he sold the suit to Patterson back in the day, 1557 01:47:01.960 --> 01:47:06.680 couldn't produce another one that looks just like it. There's so many ways that 1558 01:47:06.760 --> 01:47:12.239 it could have been debunked so many times over over the last five decades or 1559 01:47:12.279 --> 01:47:15.000 so, and it never has been. So that keeps me hanging on, 1560 01:47:15.560 --> 01:47:19.640 you know. Yeah, and I wanted to be real. I've always said 1561 01:47:19.680 --> 01:47:24.560 I wanted to be real. I really wanted to be real. But I 1562 01:47:24.680 --> 01:47:27.159 still reserve this. A couple of days a week, I scratched my head 1563 01:47:27.199 --> 01:47:31.079 and go, I'm just not sure, you know. Yeah, okay, 1564 01:47:31.159 --> 01:47:33.920 well we got oh, we had about six minutes left. I do want 1565 01:47:33.960 --> 01:47:38.359 to ask you a couple of things here. I got one off, I 1566 01:47:38.439 --> 01:47:42.000 got' written down here. What's oh, that's it? So like, what's 1567 01:47:42.039 --> 01:47:45.960 your vision? What is your personal vision or hopes for you know, doing 1568 01:47:46.159 --> 01:47:49.760 the podcasting in the future. Words, where do you want to take this? 1569 01:47:49.920 --> 01:47:54.520 I mean, obviously you've said already you know it as you worked hard 1570 01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:58.640 to make this a full time thing for you. So where are you looking 1571 01:47:58.680 --> 01:48:02.520 at going you know, forward with this. I'm trying my best to refocus. 1572 01:48:03.319 --> 01:48:06.760 I got a little sidetrack there for a while and started doing all of 1573 01:48:06.840 --> 01:48:13.520 these other shows. But my heart has always been with Sasquatch Odyssey, So 1574 01:48:13.760 --> 01:48:17.560 I'm trying my very best to get back to that, and I want to 1575 01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:21.199 put out more shows each week. I want to try some new stuff, 1576 01:48:21.319 --> 01:48:26.239 maybe do some live shows and things like that that I've never done before. 1577 01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:30.039 I'm trying to build sort of a network. We have the Paranormal World Productions 1578 01:48:30.359 --> 01:48:34.479 studio that has now the four shows that we do, so I'm trying to 1579 01:48:34.560 --> 01:48:39.760 build sort of a collective with other podcasters that are interested in some of the 1580 01:48:39.840 --> 01:48:42.600 same things that we're doing. You know, I found Wayne to take over 1581 01:48:42.680 --> 01:48:45.600 the Paranormal show from and it's grown. I mean, he's putting out more 1582 01:48:45.680 --> 01:48:49.800 shows, he's growing the audience. So it's not just about me, it's 1583 01:48:49.800 --> 01:48:54.079 about sort of I kind of built the audience for that show, and then 1584 01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:56.680 I was able to turn it over to Wayne and let him do his own 1585 01:48:56.760 --> 01:49:00.119 thing and sort of grow it in a different direction. So that's kind I've 1586 01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:04.600 always been my goal for the podcasting thing, I will never stop doing Sasquatch 1587 01:49:04.640 --> 01:49:09.239 Odyssey. It's going to go on in perpetuity until I can't talk anymore. 1588 01:49:09.800 --> 01:49:12.680 So it's always going to be my thing. Same thing for the true crime 1589 01:49:12.720 --> 01:49:15.760 show. I think the True Crime Show will continue down that vein. I'm 1590 01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:19.119 looking at some different things of sort of spicing that up a little bit. 1591 01:49:19.199 --> 01:49:23.640 I thought about doing a co host. My listeners are not so sure about 1592 01:49:23.680 --> 01:49:25.840 that because I've mentioned it on the show and they're like, no, I 1593 01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:28.720 don't think you need a co host. So we're trying to figure that out. 1594 01:49:28.840 --> 01:49:32.279 But I really want to continue to you know, a lot of shows 1595 01:49:33.359 --> 01:49:38.960 that are out there don't do a lot with the researchers, right, they 1596 01:49:39.039 --> 01:49:44.159 want just the encounter stories. I've never shied away from having researchers or the 1597 01:49:44.279 --> 01:49:46.760 people, the powers that be, you know, the better known names like 1598 01:49:46.840 --> 01:49:50.199 the mail drums and stuff like that on my show. I've always thought that's 1599 01:49:50.239 --> 01:49:55.039 important, so I try to keep a mixture of that. So ultimately it's 1600 01:49:55.039 --> 01:49:59.199 all about the encounter stories. But I think there's and I think we Leon 1601 01:49:59.319 --> 01:50:02.560 and Joe both we've talked about that on and off the area about how important 1602 01:50:02.600 --> 01:50:05.319 it is. There's a lot of people boots on the ground that are doing 1603 01:50:05.359 --> 01:50:09.880 a lot of great things in the research, and those people need to be 1604 01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:14.319 highlighted, and I think they be brought to the forefront and say there's real 1605 01:50:14.399 --> 01:50:17.640 people out there doing real work in this community. I don't do that. 1606 01:50:17.960 --> 01:50:23.079 I do my research behind the microphone. I put out shows about people's encounters. 1607 01:50:23.239 --> 01:50:26.119 I'm not in the woods looking for bigfoot every day. There are tons 1608 01:50:26.159 --> 01:50:29.680 of people out there who are, and I think it's very important to push 1609 01:50:29.760 --> 01:50:33.239 this forward, to highlight those people and say they're doing the right things for 1610 01:50:33.319 --> 01:50:36.640 the right reasons. And I'm trying to find those people. So if anybody 1611 01:50:36.720 --> 01:50:39.880 out there who is doing that kind of work and they want to come on 1612 01:50:40.079 --> 01:50:43.279 the show and they want to be heard, and about eighty five to one 1613 01:50:43.399 --> 01:50:45.760 hundred countries on any given day, we've got a pretty decent audience on the 1614 01:50:45.800 --> 01:50:48.479 show, reach out to me and we'll bring you on and talk about it. 1615 01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:53.960 I think that's important to do because I ultimately it's not just about the 1616 01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:57.319 show and making money for me. It's about pushing this forward because I want 1617 01:50:57.359 --> 01:51:02.000 to answer those questions for myself, still searching for those answers. Every single 1618 01:51:02.039 --> 01:51:06.039 show is just me searching a little bit further and digging a little bit deeper 1619 01:51:06.119 --> 01:51:11.880 into the enigma and the phenomenon of Bigfoot. For myself, it was a 1620 01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:15.800 really long winded and answer to a shore no, And I agree with you. 1621 01:51:15.960 --> 01:51:17.960 I absolutely agree with you. That's what basically, you know, the 1622 01:51:18.079 --> 01:51:23.880 focus is for my other show. As you know, I talk about Bigfoot 1623 01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:27.279 and talk about this, and I try to get people on, you know, 1624 01:51:27.560 --> 01:51:30.239 and especially I would like to be able to get even more researchers on. 1625 01:51:30.359 --> 01:51:33.880 But I'm finding that, you know, I'm more people are coming around 1626 01:51:33.960 --> 01:51:38.399 now, you know, researchers that I'm reaching out to that I go, 1627 01:51:38.600 --> 01:51:41.640 you know, hey, look, you guys are actually out there. You're 1628 01:51:41.640 --> 01:51:45.359 not one of these Let's just build a narrative around stuff. You guys are 1629 01:51:45.399 --> 01:51:47.000 really and I'd love to be able to just you know, I'm a small 1630 01:51:47.119 --> 01:51:50.720 channel, sure, but I still would love to give you the exposure, 1631 01:51:51.239 --> 01:51:55.880 you know, to the people that do watch, you know, and follow 1632 01:51:55.960 --> 01:52:00.319 my channel. So yeah, absolutely I agree with you on that. And 1633 01:52:00.479 --> 01:52:04.079 the last thing I want to ask you is advice. What advice do you 1634 01:52:04.239 --> 01:52:09.640 have for people who might be thinking about they want to create a channel and 1635 01:52:10.199 --> 01:52:14.600 start their own podcasts. Oh god, don't do it, just don't shi 1636 01:52:16.159 --> 01:52:19.359 No. I think. I think one of the things that I've I've really 1637 01:52:19.560 --> 01:52:25.119 learned there's a huge difference and you guys can attest to this because the majority 1638 01:52:25.159 --> 01:52:28.399 of what you guys do is on YouTube and it's the complete opposite for me. 1639 01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:35.960 I am a primarily audio based podcast. So I would say diversify, 1640 01:52:36.520 --> 01:52:42.560 right, if you're primarily on YouTube, look at going into and doing some 1641 01:52:42.680 --> 01:52:46.880 audio based stuff for your audience. Because not everybody can watch YouTube. Not 1642 01:52:47.079 --> 01:52:51.560 everybody can just listen to podcasts and audio form. They prefer to digest it 1643 01:52:51.680 --> 01:52:56.680 the way that we're doing here via video. It's happened. I've helped a 1644 01:52:56.760 --> 01:53:00.720 couple of different people with their podcast. You know, Dick Secrypted comes to 1645 01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:03.159 mind. If you guys listen to Cam or Cameron Buckling over at Dixie Crypton. 1646 01:53:03.479 --> 01:53:08.640 When I first met Cam, Cam wasn't on audio or based podcast he 1647 01:53:08.800 --> 01:53:13.000 was strictly on YouTube, and we were talking one day and I was like, 1648 01:53:13.079 --> 01:53:15.880 dude, you gotta get your show on audio. So he branched out 1649 01:53:16.079 --> 01:53:21.039 and created his what If It's True? Podcast on audio based form and his 1650 01:53:21.199 --> 01:53:27.479 audience took off and grew. So if you're gonna do it, think about 1651 01:53:27.479 --> 01:53:30.560 your audience. It's not just about you and how you consume stuff. It's 1652 01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:34.079 about how your audience consumes the content. So be true to your audience, 1653 01:53:34.199 --> 01:53:38.279 be true to what you're doing and whatever you're doing. If you're true to 1654 01:53:38.359 --> 01:53:41.560 yourself and you're being true to the subject, and you're true to your audience, 1655 01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:44.600 come out of what platform you're on. I think it'll it'll take off 1656 01:53:44.680 --> 01:53:47.680 and people will resonate without at least that's been the case for me so far. 1657 01:53:48.039 --> 01:53:51.880 Thank god. Awesome. Well, look, I want to thank you 1658 01:53:53.319 --> 01:53:56.720 Ryan for coming out. Glad we finally got it worked out, man, 1659 01:53:56.760 --> 01:54:00.039 because I've been looking forward to it a lot, and I just knew that 1660 01:54:00.119 --> 01:54:02.439 it was going to be a really interesting show, and I think it was. 1661 01:54:02.640 --> 01:54:08.079 And so I appreciate you taking out the time and spending two hours talking 1662 01:54:08.119 --> 01:54:11.239 to us. I know that a lot of signs with your shows you'd like 1663 01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:14.600 to keep them do about an hour hour and a half probably, which is 1664 01:54:14.680 --> 01:54:17.920 usually probably a good idea for most people. But yeah, we run, 1665 01:54:18.520 --> 01:54:23.279 we run this shot, chance of running over that all the time. So 1666 01:54:24.159 --> 01:54:26.680 and that's the way it goes. You know, you get into a really 1667 01:54:26.760 --> 01:54:30.720 interesting conversation and then all of a sudden, oh my, look it we're 1668 01:54:30.800 --> 01:54:33.800 all the time like so I appreciate it. Jen. As always, you 1669 01:54:33.920 --> 01:54:39.479 got your fans. Pretty thing that doesn't talk much, so I don't get 1670 01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:43.840 a ten some shows I just don't have time to get a word in Edge 1671 01:54:43.880 --> 01:54:45.520 one. I tried to drag you in, Jin, I did my part. 1672 01:54:45.600 --> 01:54:49.960 I did my part. I've been I've been adequately chastened. Let Jen 1673 01:54:50.119 --> 01:54:54.800 speak more, and so we'll do that. Yeah, thank you sir. 1674 01:54:55.279 --> 01:54:59.960 Once again, we're coming in and joining us, and I'm glad you were 1675 01:55:00.119 --> 01:55:02.439 here and chat. Thank you guys. You guys ask some good questions. 1676 01:55:02.479 --> 01:55:05.640 I'm sorry if I did not get to all of them, and some of 1677 01:55:05.680 --> 01:55:09.000 them I may have missed. But yeah, I guess we got a round 1678 01:55:09.159 --> 01:55:13.960 to him. I hope you guys enjoy this. And again another reminder, 1679 01:55:14.720 --> 01:55:18.079 links are in the chat to link you to Brian Sailing guys. That does 1680 01:55:18.119 --> 01:55:24.680 it for another don't ask wait a minute what and so with that, I 1681 01:55:24.840 --> 01:55:29.960 will close with the same thing I always do. Don't sweat the petty stuff. 1682 01:55:30.239 --> 01:55:33.319 Don't pet the sweaty stuff, and Hopefully we'll see you from the ford. 1683 01:55:34.680 --> 01:56:12.239 They say you don't gotta go home, but cast I don't want chi 1684 01:56:12.600 --> 01:56:21.039 di chib chime everything. Calling back Bright baby Joy for me to stay right. 1685 01:56:24.199 --> 01:57:25.039 I'm calling right away. Says don't because don't don't come. Backs us 1686 01:57:26.319 --> 01:57:38.399 to us to us, US used to use Jesus