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Today everybody, this is Less Striving Yes, yes I know aka Surviving Man,
and you're listening to Brian on sasquatchas Hey guys, and welcome back to
Sasquatch. Obviously, thank you so much for clicking play. It is Sunday.
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support the show. As I say, we've got a great show will lined
up for you. I decided to put out something that I actually did last
year. I was a guest over on the Western New York Bigfoot Investigations Group.
I was on Joe's show over there on YouTube last year and we had
a blast. This is like a two hour interview that I did because we
talked about everything Bigfoot. Leon Thompson from Bigfoot Okanagan joined in and we just
had a blast. And I hope you guys really enjoy this as much as
I enjoyed talking to those guys. It was a really, really fun night.
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You guys, sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. All right,
Hello everybody, and welcome to Joe asked, Wait a minute, what
I'm your host, Joe, you know me? And over there is your
other host, Jen you know where too? Hey, everybody down there joining
us is Leon. Leon. Did you get your audio working? Nope?
All right, Leon's gonna work on his audio. But hey, tonight,
folks, we got a pretty interesting guest then working on this. For a
while, we've been kind of crossing pass here and there, trying to work
it out and get together on this, and I just appeared on his show
the other night. He's a rather accomplished interviewer in my opinion anyway, real
easy guys to have an interview with. So well further ado, Actually,
I'm gonna bring on our guest, mister Brian King Sharp saspotch Otisee. Did
you have a good Turkey day? I did, Man, I just came
back from You can probably hear my family in the background. We were playing
cards and they're all still pissed off because the person who wasn't supposed to win
one. So it's been a fun time we've had. We've had a blast.
I've had the end laws over so good times, man, good times,
awesome, awesome. So yeah, So, as I mentioned, yeah,
we've been going around back and forth trying to get any other on the
podcast here. We finally managed to work. And I gotta tell you again,
I mean, I really enjoyed being on with you the other day.
Really easy to talk to you. So that made it. That made it
a lot easier, you know that I was. I was comfortable and speaking
with you, and you know you have that particular skill, so you know,
start this whole thing kind of give people. Let's do a little bit
of let's do a little background on mister Brian King Sharp, you know,
just a little bit of your background and what kind of got you into just
podcasting in general. Want us to, like Da Roberts did on my show,
I'm a hill billy from West Virginia. I was actually born and raised
in North Georgia, and I eventually became a cop there. I was a
City of Atlanta police officer. I was in a law enforcement for a little
over sixteen years and I left that in twenty sixteen, bought almost forty acres
of property here in North Carolina, just kind of settled into what I'm doing
now, which is the podcasting, which was really interesting because it's not something
I ever saw myself doing. I never even really listened to podcast and then
somebody turned me on to a couple of podcasts that I started listening to that
were in the Bigfoot Realm, and I thought, well, you know,
I'd like to document as many cases from the Southeastern United States where I'm from
if possible, and talk to people from there. So I started reaching out
to folks in the Facebook groups and the first guy had on the show.
Episode number one was a roadside bigfoot crossing here in North Carolina. It was
really interesting. He was an interesting character. I think his name was kil
and he had some really interesting things to say. He had some really interesting
approaches. He would go out and he was literally a flute player and he
would play the flute or bigfoot in these woods where he was. And I
know that's a big thing. You know, some of the podcast I was
listening to at the time talking about the flute players and you know, the
people that were into the woo and that kind of thing. So and I
was literally recording I've told the story so many times, but I was literally
recording it on my iPhone with this free out called rev Or something that you
could record phone calls. And it was horrible audio quality. I mean,
it was horrendous audio quality. But I was trying to make the best of
it. I was still doing what I wanted to do, talking to people,
documenting as many cases as I could that people had encounters with these things.
And I don't know, it was about two or three months into the
show, and you know, at first, nobody listens, right, there's
zero listeners, and then you get like twenty five people that are downloading,
and then it was fifty people. Then one hundred three months in, it
was starting to pick up, and I'll never forget I get this email from
West Germer squat Chronicles, and West was like, hey, man, I
listen to your show. Your audio sucks, So why don't you let me
help pick some of the audio problems that you have. So he called me
up and I ordered some of the equipment that he's been using on his show,
and he helped me kind of dial it in, and the audio quality
of the show changed literally overnight. That was working fifty hours a week at
a retail job, managing a store. I was managing fifty people at one
time, and I was driving two hours a day round trip, and I
was putting out shows. It got to the point where I was able to
make enough revenue off the show that I was almost replaced in my end front,
but I wasn't quite there. And finally I said, the only way
I'm going to be able to do this full time and commit to what I
really love doing, which is the show, is I just got to pull
the trigger and say, you know what, I gotta do this full time.
So March at this point of this year, which I posted the first
sasquatch Odyssee episode February seventh of last year, and in March of this year,
I was able to leave my full time job is our podcast and full
time and now I do four shows. Yeah, I was, And that's
that's interesting. Now. I think you had mentioned you were in law enforcement
for many years, like sixteen years, right, would you say that that
time, during that time, you say that that was one of the major
things or that really lent a lot towards your interviewing skills, I would imagine,
I guess. So, you know, I did a lot of interviewing
people. You know, I answered nine one calls all the time, so
it was constantly interviewing and talking about what was going on, you know,
investigating crimes and things like that. But I don't know, I've just always
sort of had a knack for that kind of thing. I don't know,
it's just just kind of been my thing. I've always done public speaking.
I was in bands from the time that I was a teenager, and I
sang for many many years and kind of performed all the time in front of
a lot of people. So it was kind of a natural progression for me.
I guess I'm sure the interviewing thing was honed in. I took a
lot of interviewing classes as a cop and learn how to interrogate people. I
don't try to interrogate people on the show. That's not my third people who
have had big foot encounters. It's more of a conversation. That was one
of the appeals for me for some of the shows that I started listening to
initially was I didn't like a bunch of back and forth banter. I just
wanted to be the story of the person who experienced it. So I think
that's been something I've tried to do and I still try to do every single
time I sit down with somebody as just shut your mouth, open your two
ears, and listen, and this guide the people as they need to be
guided. That's kind of what I do. Yeah. Now, when it
comes to the podcast, you, as I mentioned like in the description,
I mean you you run the gummy. I mean you've done several different subjects
like I think. I mean, I heard you mentioned true crime. If
he's gone to podcasts on that now, I would imagine that you know it
was your time in the law Enforcement, which you know lent to that.
So how did you tell me a little bit about the true crime route?
Are you still doing that? Do you still have a true crime podcast?
I do. I just gave up the Paranormal podcast, so I found a
host to take that over. It's still my show, but I found Wayne
from Animal Research. He has his own YouTube channel. It's now Paranormal Odyssey,
but he had his own channel on YouTube for several years and he was
doing shows over there. He took over the Paranormal Odyssey show for me just
over the last month. He's about three or four shows in over there.
But I do the true crime show every week. I didn't do one because
of the holiday this week. I took the week off. But it's definitely
a labor of love. It's way more as far as the research part of
it. It's way more intense than setting down and just interviewing somebody who's had
an experience. I have to go in and deep dive and research the case.
Then I have to write the episode, and then I have to record
the episode. Because it's pretty much just me narrating the show as it unfolds
and trying to do, you know, at justice because to me, it's
all about the victims. It's always been about the victims. For me,
I've been a victim of crime as a cop. I mean, my car
was broken into many times. I was shot at twice. You know,
I had a lot of experiences. And my grandmother was murdered when I was
a child. So I've always been interested in the true crime thing, you
know, for a yard of different reasons. But it's very labor intensive and
frankly, there's not a lot of return on investment. Yet it's still a
virgining show. It's a it's a new show. So I'm about thirty eight
episodes. I guess in on that show it's doing well, but you know,
it's it's a lot of work. So but I do those weekly.
I put out a new show every single week on Tuesdays. Be interesting in
in the near future to get back with you again and then because I'm just
trying to let you get a few under your belt, and then maybe someday
get you back on and you can talk about which which are the cases that
have most interested you when it comes to that. Well, lad even you
also mentioned again you dabbled in not only just true grind, but also paranormal.
How did you get into the paranormal? I mean, what was there
something that you yourself had happened experience in your life that you went, you
know, I really should just really just dive into this paranormal stuff a little
bit too. Yeah, I had tons of paranormal stuff as a child.
I lived in some houses that were haunted. One of the childhood houses that
I lived in when I was from like ten to fourteen ish or maybe fifteen,
was haunted and there were some possible satanic stuff going on, some devil
worshiping stuff before we moved in, and it was a really active place.
So I started having those kind of experiences, hearing things at night, scratching
on the walls, just a lot of interesting paranormal stuff. So I've always
been interested in that as well. And my mom's lived in several haunted houses,
and she's told me those stories from her childhood and early adult hood,
and some of our relatives that have experienced certain things like that, my sisters
lived in a haunted house. I caught an EVP in a house that she
was living then, which was pretty interesting. But I've always had that fascination
and it was sort of born out of I started the Sasquatch Odyssey podcast specifically
to cover bigfoot encounters. But as you know, you interview people, Leon
can attest to this, Jen, I'm sure you can attest to it as
well. Every time you're talking to somebody, it's well, if you had
any other weird things happen, Yeah, there's these lights, and there's that
one time I saw that UFO, and then there's this ghost that comes in
visits and then you just unpeel this onion. And you know, for the
most part, at least in my experience, most bigfoot people are sort of
purist, right. They want their big foot and that's all they want to
talk about. If it even goes outside of where they want to talk about
or how they want to talk about big Foot, they don't want to talk
about it. So I started the Paranormal Odyssey podcast just to give a space
for those people who have had the UFO, alien abductions, dog man encounters,
and some of the weirder stuff ghost encounters and things like that. So
that's kind of how that show was born, to give it a separate space
for people to come on and share that as well. So that's funny.
You should mention that, because that's how this show, what this show was
born out of two was. You know. I was like, well,
you know, I really it was hard because for a while I was doing
three shows a week and I was like, wow, man, this is
just too much to juggle around three shows. I got to cut this back.
So I cut it back to two. And then I was like,
well, I don't really want two big foot shows. So that's what this
was bo out. I was like, Okay, that one's for big foot,
this one is four. Well we can talk about a big foot on
this show, but this one is more expansive. This is everything that makes
me go wait a minute. Worked, And so I figured this was a
good good one to have you on because you've covered so many different topics and
subject as we said, from true crime all the way to other rift kids
and all that stuff. So this was perfect place to have you on.
As far as i'm sir and now, so would you say that in a
way like I can say, look, I'm a hundred percent sure that sas
Watch is real. Are you at that point when it comes to like para
normal and ghosts and you say that for you that you one hundred percent know
that ghosts are real. Absolutely not. I don't think I'm one hundred percent
on anything. Okay. You know, in the beginning, folks kind of
gave me cryp because I wouldn't stick in a lane. But that's just who
I am. I don't tell any lines for anybody. I don't pull any
punches when it comes to my show, and I'm just not one hundred percent
on anything. You and I talked about that. You and Leon and I
talked about that just about everybody I've had on the show. I'm never one
hundred percent sure about anything, even my own experience. I think I had
a big foot encounter when I was twelve or so. I think I was
bluff charged and ran out of the woods by one of these things. But
I've had people bring up other weird things. Leon's probably going to get a
kick out of this, because you're explaining an enigma with another phenomena wrapped in
a second enigma. But I had a guy who interviewed me last year.
I was a guest on another show, and he said, well, with
the demonic stuff that was going on in your house, do you think it's
possible that your bigfoot experience or what you perceived to be a Bigfoot experience might
have been one of these demonic things that was chasing you through the woods.
And I'm like, well, holy shit, I don't know. You might
be right, So I keep my mind open to everything. You know,
I don't ever definitively say that Bigfoot is one hundred percent real. I don't
think ghost necessarily in that. For me, I believe in most of those
things. And my disclaimer for everybody who's ever on my show is I don't
have anybody on my show who does not believe that they have had the experience
that they say they've had. That leaves a wide open berth for a lot
of things, right, just because they believe it doesn't necessarily make it true,
but it is what it is. But I don't have people on that
I just believe you're just making stuff up. I'm not percent on anything,
man. My mind is completely open to just every possibility. Yeah, and
hey, that's that's a fair enough answer. That's and it's totally acceptable answer,
Vick, does I mean, I think I think that's about the only
thing I will say that I'm one hundred percent sure about is the existence of
a sas budge, but everything else, Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent
sure about anything else. Like you know, I don't I don't necessarily believe
in ghosts, but I'm not one hundred percent sure that there's not something there,
you know, because as you mentioned, I mean, you can acknowledge,
you know, even if you don't totally you know, believe something is
real, you can't acknowledge that weird stuff that just you can't explain does happen
to be you know. Now, That's the thing that that's one thing you
just mentioned that I did want to cover about is you had mentioned that during
I think during yeah you did. When I when you were interviewed in me,
you hadn't mentioned about occurrences on some property you have, and and about
the bluff charge at twelve. And I wrote that down because I wanted to
make sure I did ask you about those. Say so, um, could
you give us a little bit of a little more in depth about what happened
when you were twelve years old? About this bluff charge and what makes you
what what was it to made you with holy crap, that could have been
a big foot that just buff guard me. Well, in retrospect, there's
a couple of things, but I think the big thing for me back then
was just the feeling that I had And Leon and I kind of talked about
this when when I had Leon on That hasn't aired yet, but it will
eventually in the next couple of Hey, I hear you, Leon, you're
laughing. YO, was waiting, can you hear me? Hear me?
Or just I haven't said anything like yeah, a little bit, that's awesome.
Oad. I was thinking, we're just going to stare at you all
night, and I was I was prepared to say nothing and leave the room.
So so yeah, I think Leon and I kind of talked about this,
but it was more about the feeling that I got when I was in
the woods, Like I was out squirrel hunting, and I'd been out in
these woods forever and experienced so many different things, but nothing like this,
and I just had this overwhelming feeling of I need to get out of here.
I shouldn't be here, you know, And like Leon and I talked
about this, and he can even talk a little bit more to this,
I guess after I get finished. But there's that one thing that just sticks
out in my mind, and it's I've never felt that feeling before. Could
it have been a mountain lion? Sure? Could it have been a bear?
Sure? Could it have been a lot of things that I didn't see
that would have caused me to have that reaction. My body's having this physical
reaction to this unknown threat, but it's it's just that overwhelming feeling. And
I started experience in that. And then I hear these this movement what sounds
like a bipedal something upright, walking heavily and making all these noises, snorts,
tofts, growls, and then I feel what I believe to be bluff
charges a couple of times, and I didn't wait for the third time.
I was out. I was gone. I was knees, assholes, and
elbows. I was gone. And I ran like the three to four hundred
yards back to my house. And I didn't tell anybody about it. I
didn't go in and tell my mom that something ran me out of the woods.
A because I'm smart, I'm twelve. I tell you that I'm never
gonna get to go back in the woods again, so I'm just gonna chalk
it up. Let it be done. But that was the only time I'd
ever experienced anything like that to this day. I've never had the same type
of experience. And I've been in the woods a lot. We live in
the woods here, you know, we're in the woods every single day on
our property. We have forty acres here and we're surrounded by nothing but woods.
So it was just one of those things that I can't say what it
was. It could have been. You know, people said, it's a
deer snort. Well, I've heard a deer snort. It wasn't a deer
snort. You know, I kind of know what it wasn't, but I
can't tell you what it was, right, right, And so many times
it seems like that that's the case a lot of times. I mean there's
I mean, there's been plenty of times and the time that I've been investigating
this stuff that yeah, I mean I could tell you what it what wasn't,
But there's play times like, well I can't tell you what it was
though. Yeah. That's and and you know, the bluff charts thing is
something that I have heard. Now, I personally haven't ever interviewed somebody who's
told me that they were bluff charged. Most of the people I've talked to,
it's pretty much cut and gry encounters that they've had, you know,
either they saw it run in front of their car, or they were out
hiking and it crossed, you know, a trail in front of them,
you know, a few hundred yards away or whatever. And but the bluff
charge thing is interesting. It sounds scary to me, you know. And
and I gotta admit some of the ones that I did hear later that you
know, secondhand, Um, some of them I did believe. I'm like,
well, that's that's there's there's something there. And then plus the reaction
of the person talking about it, I was like, you know, you
don't you don't get at least in my mind, you don't get afraid or
seem scared over imaginary stuff, right, this is stuff that you really you
know, it's not that you imagined it, you know, or if you're
making it up right, you don't tend to be able to act like you're
scared over something you're making up right, And these people actually seemed affected by
the fact that they were They thought they were bluff charged by something that well
potentially is at least eight foot tall and probably strong enough to rip them in
half or whatever. But leon, yeah, he said that you got anything
to say about. I don't want to push my luck. I just got
your mic on. Dude, you gotta talk a little bit about what the
brain goes through when you experience. Oh. I think you guys all know
that. The idea is, if something's looking at you in the bush.
We talked about this. Just if you're ever in a restaurant, just watch
somebody's lower shoulders back like you're watching your backside, and then move you After
you d do that, knows nothing will happen, then look at the back
of their head. So I mean, I've been in the bush before.
I had different flavors for a different kind of willie. So I've been on
the bus. I got the same sort of stance. Something was there was
no didn't go deern't clear raccoon, didn't go dash batches when the cougar like
bag. The good thing that you did that I think most should do.
Always if your spidy sense is tingling, always go back to the ear.
But if I don't use something, there may be something difference between your yourself
spooking yourself and the environment your brain trying to you something. You're still having
the same issue you were having on myne No, I know that's what it's
all much matter when it's just your computer. So I'm gonna play hurst and
say just take the damn microphone off and talking through that. But anyway,
but you're right about the spidy sense, right. It happened to me when
I was a cop, because that would happened to me all the time.
But you know, you would have those moments when something would say I need
to walk around to this side of the car, I need to walk around
to that side of the car, and vice versa or whatever. And I
listen to that, and I'm still alive because of it. And I think
that a lot of people get that in the woods, and that's what you're
experiencing. And it may not necessarily be a mind speak thing where something says
get out or whatever the case may be, but there's there's something physiological happening
that happens to everybody because we have that part of our brain, a lizard
part of the brain that kicks in and says, Okay, there's a predator
you don't know about. You need to be aware of this. You need
to get out of here, and get out of here now. And when
I interview people who have had mind speak or what they believe to be mind
speak sort of encounters. That's one of the things that's always in the back
of my mind, and I asked them that. Like Less Stroud for example,
comes to mind when I had survive him in on the show. I
asked him about that, because he's had maybe two or three mind speak or
what he pullieves to be telepathic communication situations with Bigfoot, and I don't know,
you know, I mean, he's a pretty intelligent guy. He knows
the outdoors. He's been out, you know, plenty of times when he
says he feels like this thing was talking. Did you know who am I
to discredit that and say that's not his experience. I'm not going to do
that, right, And it could possibly be these other things, you know,
And we always have to keep an open mind. And Hockham's Razor right
that the simplest explanation is usually what it boils down to. So yeah,
yeah, I totally agree with you on that. I mean, I just
recently put up a post on my Facebook page, the Western New York fiboot
in Desta, just mulling things over which my brain is constantly doing. You
know, if I you know, anytime I'm sitting still and I'm out of
work, and even sometimes doing them. I put that up the same way.
I mean, yes, I am super skeptical about the whole mind speak
this and that and most of what people call WOO. I'm very skeptical of
it. But like I put in that post, so am I saying it
definitely didn't happen. No, I'm not saying that. I can't say that.
I can't say it definitely didn't happen. The only thing I can say
is that, well I can. I'm pretty skeptical of it, unless you
know, when it comes to extraordinary claims, they were for extraordinary evidence,
and you know, if you have some of that, then you know,
I'll probably be less skeptical. But but I'm not going to say if somebody
tells me that, yeah, I might okay, might have been something else
going on there, unless you can prove to me, you know, But
I'm not gonna say it definitely didn't happen to you, right, Get I
wasn't so. And I mean, anybody that says they're hearing certain voices in
their heads, how are you going to tell them that, No, you're
not you're not hearing voices in your head help them. Maybe maybe you are
right. And I've I've used the psychosis word on the show a couple of
times over the last couple of weeks because there there can be some of that
on board, right, And I've said it before. I know, I've
interviewed, I've tried to weed out as many people as I can, but
I know I've probably had people on the show that I've probably had some mental
illness on board. I think that's going to happen if you do what we
do long enough, you're going to have that from people. But the majority
of the people that I have on and it's happened recently with dog Man.
I am a very skeptical person in general, but specifically with dog Man and
other cryptids, because I just don't know how it is possible physiologically for those
things to exist. Right with Big Slot, we're talking possible homing in.
I'm anoid. You know, it's we have a fossil record that proves that
we're not the only things that have ever walked up right. Okay, but
but an eight foot tall bipedal canine or canaid. You and I talked about
this when you were on the show briefly. Yeah, it just doesn't compute
to me, It doesn't make sense. But I've had very credible people,
three people I've interviewed now to date on the show that have had what they
believed to be several bigfoot and or dog man encounters. Specifically with the dog
man encounters. Da Roberts from Dax Mockner was on the show recently. Da
is former law enforcement and he's former military. Yeah, he's an intelligent guy.
He's a truthful guy. He's an honest guy. I don't believe that
Da is making up anything when he tells me his stories. Right, He's
had encounters with things that just don't seem to be anything other than a dog
man, and I just have to throw my hands up. And of course
when I put those shows out, I have listeners, you know, to
say, oh, he's clearly he's full of shit, he's stelling a lie.
You can tell he's embellishing. Well, how do you know that?
Because on the flip side, right, you're making extraordinary claims that require extraordinary
evidence. But it's also an extraordinary extreme in my opinion, to call somebody
a liar and tell you that they're making them up their entire story without some
kind of proof to back that up, right, I got to give him
the benefit of the doubt, right exactly, I don't know exactly now.
I mean, I know that there are some people out there. I'm not
going into that particular tangent right here, but there are some people out there
with the dog Man stuff that I'm fully, fully in the camp of you're
just totally making up this bs, you know. But in general, people
that are just you know, not even I'm not talking about people that have
dog man ages or anything. They're just people that would be like, oh
wow, I think I saw one. Okay, maybe you did. I
for mysel self, Like I said, I agree with you. I'm about
in the same camp you are. I don't see any physical evidence of dog
Man ever, not even as much as I have a big book, right,
So if you gave me at least that much, I'd be like more
in the realm of Okay, possibly dog Man is reel, then stay tuned
for more Sasquatch out to Sea Wolf right back after these messages. But other
than that, man, I mean, I would love it if dog Man.
I think I mentioned it on your show cha. I love werewolves,
man, and I mean I understand it probably dogman and a werewolf alike and
throw two different things, right, Apparently a dog man is a bipedal canine
and that's what it is all the time. It never changes into a human
or whatever. But I would love it if they were real, you know,
scary as I saw. I would love it if that was real,
because I loved that kind of stuff ever since I was a kid. I
just don't see it because there's no evidence in the fossil record for it.
Now, having said that, I know there's the people that will bring up
the well, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and I've used
that myself, and okay, you can probably use that just because no fossil
has been found. But I don't know, again, knowing what I do
know, or at least what I've studied, and I'm no expert on this.
I'm not a private biologist or anything like that or biologists, but I
just there's been no examples even living, not even fossil, but of any
knine species being bipedople. But having said that, I do want to go
out to asking you about you made mention about occurrences, and we briefly mentioned
a few of these things in my air view you had mentioned about I think
we were talking about the stick stuff and stick structures and things of that nature.
There are things, Oh, there are things that you said happened occurrences
on your property that made Now you've never said, oh, this has gotta
be bigfoot on my property. I understand that you haven't gone there at all,
which I think is well podos to you. But there's something. There's
gotta be something that makes you go, what's a possibility. So could you
just give us some some examples of what you mean by occurrences that may make
you think it's possible that there would be something like that. I'm that property.
I'll tell you some things that will make Joe go, wait a minute.
What. So the first things were always it was vocalizations. When we
first moved to the property, that's the first thing we got. And it
was distant. It was I'm talking mile mile and a half behind this river,
and it was sort of like this ohio howel type vocalization like oh,
you know, could have been anything, right, But we can sit out
in the hot tub like last winner, and it's thirty degrees out. We're
having a glass of wine, we're in the hot tub, and I don't
know if it was too many glasses of wine or what, but we started
hearing these vocalizations and it sounded really interesting, right, And so I would
hear this, and it's in the distance. Then you'd hear coyotes, you'd
hear other other wildlife whatever, and so we were getting that and that's it
is what it is, right, It's there's no way to really tell what
that is. And it was what last year. I guess it was middle
last year, towards the fall. I guess it was about fifty degrees in
that area. And I was doing some post show work up stairs. We
sleep in a lock. We have a tiny house. It's four hundred square
feets. We have a loft and we have windows on either side and we
kind of sleep in the woods, right, And we had the windows open,
and I'm doing taking some notes and getting ready for bed. It's really
quiet, and then all of a sudden, like forty fifty yards from the
house, we get the same ohio owl. I scream with a bark on
the end, this weird like bark, and I'm talking like rattled me,
like rattled the windows kind of loud, and I'm like, what the well,
what was that? Well? I got the question from the better half
what was that? And of course I'm the big foot guy, so I
said, what do you think it was? Right? What did it sound
like to you? Well, it was really weird. I did not go
out and see what it was. People have asked me that question when I
told the story, what did you go outside? No, dude, I
did not. We're talking for it's like midnight and it's forty yards from the
house. I'm not trapsing in these woods. Sorry, just not do it.
I don't want to see it. If that's what it was, move
on, I'm good. I don't I don't need to get that guy.
So those things were happening, and then the deeper we'd get into the woods
and moving around, we'd start seeing tree structures are what looked like tree structures,
X formations, fulcrum tight formations in different places. And again, all
of this could be exactly what it looks like. It could be deadfall,
it could be completely natural, but it looks weird. It really does look
weird. I found trees that are woven behind other trees. That's not deadfall.
It could be something else. I don't know what else that would be,
but it's not deadfall. These trees are woven behind another tree. And
it really came to a head last year. I filmed a television show for
Vice and they were here. They filmed for like seven days on the property,
and we went to Georgia for a couple of days, and we actually
filmed at the Big Book Museum up in Blue Ridge. If you guys have
been there, you haven't. If you're in that area, you should go
check it out. It's an amazing store. So we filmed up there,
and then we came back and they had to do some pickups for the episode.
And when the guy I came back for a full day of pickups,
we go out into an area hiking and the cameraman actually said, Hey,
what's what's that spot over there? It looks weird, like all these trees
are like laying together. I'm like, well, I've passed that spot before,
so we'll walk over and check it out. And he films me walking
in And the closer I got to this spot, the more weird it got.
I found one of the trees that were woven together in that spot,
and there was just this. It looked like tree structures. I mean when
I say tree structures, for anybody who's in the big Foot stuff, it
looks like what people consider to be a tree structure, trees on top of
each other, TP structures, things woven behind other things and that kind of
thing. And so I'm standing there and I'm looking at this is a like
a cameraman for the Vice Network like this, dude, he's not into big
Foot, right, He's like, that looks really strange. And I'm like,
well, it does look really strange. And I'm trying to talk it
out as I'm you know, I'm trying to say what else it could be.
And they did a really good job with the show. It ended up
being a forty five minute show, and I was concerned about the editing and
what they were going to do with it. But the only thing they edited
that I did not say was what you've pointed out earlier. I'm going to
go on the record and say this. There's a spot that you see if
you watched the show. I'm saying a Bigfoot definitely made this right. And
I'm standing in front of the structure that's not what I said. I was
saying. The actual phrase was the complete sentence was I can't say for sure
a bigfoot made this, but instead it to look like I said that a
bigfoot made That's not why. Yeah, but I said all that to say
it was it's really strange that all these different things, tree breaks and different
things that we have that I found on the property again that could be completely
natural, just looked really weird. And the most recent thing was this stupid
turtle that I found stuck into the out of an old cedar stump a place
that I walk my dogs twice a day, sometimes three times a day around
this trail, and I don't know, a month and a half or so
ago, we're walking the dogs one morning and I look over and I see
this white thing sticking on the side of this stump. And there's this turtlesheld
stuck upside down in the side of a stump like stuck there. It's on
my Instagram. If you guys want to go to sasquatch odyssee on Instagram and
check out the video and the pictures. It's up you can see it.
So I walk over and I look at this turtlesheld and I'm thinking, how
did that get there? And you know, I'm trying to be objective,
you know, I'm trying to look at this from all different angles, and
I'm trying to I stood there for like fifteen minutes trying to pick this thing
up and place it in a way that it could have happened naturally, right,
And I couldn't do it. So I just stuck it back where it
was, and I left it for like three days, and I'm like,
should I, you know, should I check this out? I went back,
took some photos. I took a video of me walking up to the
storm. I decided to take the turtleshell and I took this little rock that
has one of our York he passed away a couple of years ago, and
it was actually off his grave site where he's buried here. And I took
tanks rock and I took it up to the stump and I put it on
the stump, kind of like a gifting situation. Gay, I'm taking if
this is what's happening. I'm not necessarily believing this, but if this is
what's happened, hey, I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna leave you this.
And then I posted the videos and the photographs on Instagram, and people
are like, okay, you know, people chiming, Oh, you got
a big boot. You gotta do this, you gotta do that, you
gotta do this. If it's a gifting situation, you need to put an
apple or something out there. Okay. Well, we had some half rotten
apples in the house that I hadn't eaten, so I took one and put
it on a stick, and I stuck the stick with the apple sitting on
top of the stick inside the stump next to the rock. Okay, I
put up a trail cam, I don't know, twenty five feet away,
directly in front of the tree. Camera was up for three days. I
caught nothing but raccoons for three days, but nobody touched the apple. I
test. I'd go and look at the apple every day. I pulled the
SD card out of the camera and come in and download the photos. Nothing
but coons playing everywhere, but nobody touched the apple. And people were sending
me messages if it's a gifting situation, the big Foot's gonna know the camera's
there, so you gotta take the camera down or the Bigfoot's not going to
come back. Okay, I'll do that. I took the camera down on
the third day. I went back the fourth morning and something had taken a
bite out of the apple. Hand to god, something had taken a bite
out of the apple. And I'm like, you have got to be shipping
me. Like three days at least I counted at least six coons probably,
you know, some combination of the same group for three days, and nobody
touched the apple. And then I take the camera down and there's at least
one bite or possibly two bites taken out of the side of this apple.
So I'm like, what, I take a picture of the apple. I
bring it back. I think it's stick and all. I just pulled it
and it's still in the middle in the same position. It's not laying on
the side. It stuck on this stick and it stuck into the middle with
the apple still on top of the stick. But there's just these bites gone.
So I take the apple out. I bring it back up to the
porch and I lay it on the porch and I'm like, I don't know
what to do with this. I don't know if I should take pictures.
People are gonna think, oh, you're faking stuff. I don't at this
one. I don't care, you know, it's at it, right,
So I take a picture of it. I take a couple of pictures,
and I sent it to Wayne over at Animal Research. And I texted Wayne
and I said, tell me what you think that looks like? No context.
He had no idea what I had done. He didn't know. He
just knew this was like a rotten apple with some mold on it, that
somebody had taken a bite over there. And so he texted me back and
he said something took a He said, a person or something like a person
took a bite out of the apple. What what is it? And so
then I tell him the story. He's like, holy shit. I'm like,
I'm not saying that, dude, right, don't. I have no
idea, But you know, things like that are really strange, like is
it something else? Sure, I don't know if a deer might have been
in the apple, I don't know how it would do it with it on
the stick and in the same position. But I don't know, man,
just weird stuff, right, Well, I you know, I try to
agree with you on NAD a little more so for the fact that like this
is on what I'm assuming, right, you're your private, your property is
private. You don't have you know, people trespassing. I don't imagine,
not that it's not possible, but why would that happen? So yeah,
when you're fine and sayings like that on a private property, they tend to
be a little more intriguing, especially the weaving type stuff that you're talking about.
I found examples of that myself. What I would consider it to be
something that almost looked like a blind that something had constructed. Now could a
better person possibly, But you know, I run into some stuff that.
Well again, like you say, I'm like, well, I'm not gonna
stand here and say on sasquatch came up built this thing and was hiding behind
it. But I have had at least one one instance where I found something
like that, and we did find a footprint near it, like right next
to it, as almost as if it had been standing there fiding behind this
thing. Now, of course that doesn't necessarily mean that it made it,
but it could have been standing behind it. But anyway, I'd like to
take just a moment just to say hello and thank you to the chat everybody
I know. Usually I go through the role call, but I knew this
was going to be a lot of a lot of ground to cover on this
show with Brian, So for interest of time's sake, I didn't do the
role call. But no that I appreciate. Everybody's here glad to see it
come in. I think somebody said the k why the X Files guys were
in the house. Are you guys in the house? Yeah? There are,
yeah, and an interest before I get into a get a riot situation
going on my hands here For all the Gen fans, it had been noticing
saying that she's so pretty, but she doesn't talk much. Jen. Do
you who have any quipment any thoughts about what Brian has said so far?
Are you got any I've done like paranormal stuff myself. I don't know if
you ever, I doubt you have. But have you ever been out to
like Mansfield Prison here in Ohio? I have not. No, Okay,
I was there and I took a picture walking up the staircases between the ranges
going up to the next range. So I just took a picture. I
just turned and I took a picture to basically take the picture of the length
of the range, and I got this green orb thing kind of floating between
the wall and the range. I've shown it to Joe. Have you ever
seen anything like that? What is your take on the difference between like maybe
the spirit orbs or what you might see with people relating to like the limen,
see them in the woods, things of that nature. Is there any
difference to you same thing. I think there's a difference. And I've done
an entire show on orbs. I had this lady who reached out to me,
I think last year, and I think I had her own earlier this
year, and she was having all these kinds of different experiences with the orbs,
and she had tons of photos, she had tons of videos and things
like that, and she would see these things in all kinds of conditions,
daylight, nighttime, different cameras, the whole nine yards. So I'm kind
of fascinated with the orbs. But you know, and then you're you're talking
about maybe the type of orbs that people see in the woods that are sort
of like swamp gas that people talk about and in relation to maybe even big
foot encounters and things like that. So I don't know. I think there's
definitely something going on. I've had experiences with orbs I've had for some reason,
I'm like an orb magnet when I People have taken photographs of me on
numerous occasions, and I've even posted a couple of them, I think maybe
online. Yeah, I can't remember i posted mine or not. One's a
family photo of us all sitting. It was probably fifteen or twenty of us
sitting on this huge sectional and this is probably eight or ten years ago,
and there's orbs all around my face. Nobody else is just mine. And
I've had I've been on ghost tours and had pictures of me taken and there's
orbs and just weird stuff like that. So I don't know what to make
of the orbs. I think most of them, I'd say probably ninety five
to ninety eight percent of the stuff that I've seen that people purport to be
orbs are probably just natural phenomenon that happens when you take photographs, or it's
dust or it's insects, things like that. But I don't know. It's
just it's an interesting subject. I definitely find it interesting, but I don't
I don't know what to make of the different types of orbs. Yeah,
Well, if anybody in the chat of course, will you say this a
lot. Any of you guys got questions for Brian, just please put them
in caps so that we can readily see them, and I'll try to get
through as many of them as possible while we're going through this. Gary had
a question, Yes, Gary, this is live. Gary was asking earlier
as someone asked, Joe is this live? Yes, this is live.
We are definitely alive. Somebody posted I want to talk about this for a
second if I can. Somebody the bat the bat mom asked, was Sasquatch
Odyssey before big Photodyssey? And that's a good question, and I want to
talk about that a little bit. This is the this is the thing that
carry Arnold and I never talked about it. It's like I always say,
with the nine hundred pound elephant in the room and rest his soul. Carrie
and I never got to talk about that. Bigfootodyssey was way before sasquatch Otase.
So when I started looking to name the show and brand the show.
When I started my show, I didn't know what to call it. Right,
there's so many bigfoot shows out there, There's so many sasquatch encounter shows.
There's sasquatch Chronicles. I literally had no idea that Carrie's show existed,
honestly because I didn't listen. I listened to two podcasts when I started my
own podcast. One was West on Sasquatch Chronicles and the other was Tony Merkel
on The Confessionals. That's the only two podcasts I'd ever listened to before I
started my home. So I was a newbie in the Bigfoot world, and
I did a lot of research. I googled as much as I could to
make sure I wasn't stealing somebody's name or you know, mixing something together.
And the only thing I found was a film that was done back in the
nineties called Sasquatch Otysey, and they had a website that was defunct. It
was no longer being used, and the film was not in production at the
time. I mean this is literally back in the early nineties, and it
was sort of I won't get into what the film was about. But so
I wanted my show to be a journey for people. I wanted it to
be something, and I didn't want to call that Sasquatch Journey, so Sasquatch
Odyssey sounded better to me. So I called the show Sasquatch Odyssey, and
then I was probably two months into the show and I was posting in some
Facebook groups and people were like, hey, is this carry with big Foot
Odyssey? And I'm like, oh shit, I should probably look into that,
and then I discovered carry Ship. So no, he was he was
first. But that's how that happened. A lot of people are like,
well, did you just try to steal the name? No, I had
no idea that existed, So there you go. I was just gonna say
the good thing about it. Can you hear me? It's okay, I'm
on a totally different device. Okay, the good thing but that is you
won't get harp on by Thomas Steinberg and say it should be called Saasquatch Odyssey
not Bigot. Yeah, Sogan, Yeah, Brian. When you as regarding
the apple you put out, you said that was on a stick that was
attached to a sticks and slid it on a stick. Is that correct?
Okay? So when you put it on a stick, was it on the
side of the apple? Was the apple up right? But I can actually
try to pull it up if you want me to pull up the photos.
But yeah, I could of cure some soft for cheap. So if you
got that you did not see teeth marks. That was the that was an
interesting thing. I did say that they weren't there though, I mean I
have hundred I mean I'm surrounded by eight ridges, right apple or tube a
stack, and so I could recognize porcupines on on apple tree. But I
also know if if it's if I could see the fight at my people that
have helped you but fighting, So yeah, I will try. I'm trying
to multitask here and see if I can. I'm try to pull up my
Instagram page and I will show it to you if I can do that and
share my screen. But yeah, I did not see any bite marks,
and that was you know, that was one of the things I thought,
I don't see teeth in this, but the apple was really really soft.
Okay, I've got the picture pulled up, so I'm gonna try to use
technology here and see if it'll allow me. You'll probably have to approve this,
but I'm going to share my screen with you. Well, all right,
in Tristan has a question when you get Joe, Yeah, you gotta
see that. Yeah, all right, So that's the there's a couple of
pictures. See no teeth marks, right, that's probably the best picture that
sort of shows you see the stick stuck into the bottom of the apple,
and it was literally stuck down with the top of the like the this part
of the apple was facing upwards obviously, And yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, i'd had to zoom it in, send it, maybe send it
to me or something. Yeah, I'll you want me to, I'll text
it to you. Leon. Usually I would love to know, I mean
I would, I would definitely love to know if it's a deer. A
deer a deer when it baked an apple similar to your own dentires, so
you'll see that where the teeth have gone in and grabbed the especially if it's
front that's moldy too, So I mean, I can I look at my
cell phones so white screening, just blow it up the field. Yeah,
if and it's rotten too, you said, right, Yeah, it was
definitely it was soft when I put it out there, so it'd been out
at that point by the time you're seeing these photographs, it's probably seven or
eight days old outside at this point because I had taken it up on the
fORCH and and it took me a couple of days to send the photos or
whatnot. But yeah, it was just weird because it's on that stick stuck
down in this stump. So a deer would have to like turn its head
and or something picked it up with the stick and bit it and then stuck
it back down in there, sick in the exact same spot position and everything.
Yeah, yes, because the stump was really soft. It was like
an old cedar stump, and it's really really soft in the middle, you
know how wood will get it decay and it gets soft, and yeah,
it's funky exactly. And so I just stuck it down in there, and
I thought, okay, well here it is. The rock wasn't moved.
The rocks still there. I checked it twice today. Nobody's touched the rock,
but the apple was a bit and everybody's asked me. I did not
send it out for DNA. No, I'm not that guy. I think
within the compost. But there you go home. I'll tell you what if
you go If you go back to done day, Brian, and that rock
is gone, and in place of that rock is a new cell phone.
Get in touch with Steve calls because I'm gonna I'll definitely call Steve as soon
as that happens. But you know, when I first started putting that stuff
out, people were saying the occam's raised or answer to this is you had
a trespasser on your property who wanted to mess with you, right, And
people have asked me how far away is this from the road. We're talking
over a half a mile from the road right off the back of the property,
and it's probably four hundred yards or so from the porch of my house,
so it's a good ways into the woods. And we had we do
have occasionally we had I posted it on Instagram last month, we had somebody
to come up and steal cut a chain on the property, walk up to
within two hundred feet of my house, and steal a camera off of a
area where we've got a generator sitting. So we do have that kind of
stuff. One of my neighbors called me today and sent me a text message
and said, hey, there's two guys with rifles walking your way about twenty
yards into the woods off the road. They're coming your way. Well,
I grabbed my rifle and went out to the investigate, like that's what we
do here. I never saw the guys. They were two properties over from
me, across from him, there's two other owners that it could have been
hunting on their own property. But I've never seen anybody outside of the one
guy who came up a month or so ago and stole our camera actually on
the property. So I don't think that's a that's a somebody trespassing. Biting
a rotted apple is not a viable option for that, You wouldn't think,
though. Yeah, and I I'm sure YO didn't buy it. Yeah,
well, i'd say what, I'm gonna pull up a couple of coilents here.
You got definitely some fans in the In the chat, Jeff from Fine
Island says, interesting fact, Brian has done more episodes of his various Channels
shows than all of us from Chat on the Panel, et cetera. All
put together, hardest working guy in this community. So they were saying,
I'll tell you later. Yeah, give him that you later. Mister Lee
had a question, Eric, He says, Brian, what is your opinion
of different colored orbs different entities? That's a that's an interesting question. I
have no freaking clue because I I'm fascinated by the orbs, because I I
think there may be a there there. I just don't know what that they're
there is, you know, lady negative Nancy. But I chronically tell you,
guys, look up or lights. They kind of run your colors.
The size of the UFOs, the side of basketball designed up and the like
little buttons on a cold become in a variety of sizes. There's the reason
for it. They show up quite often, especially random wars would especially be
in your water. And it's Elie. There's a lot of reasons former them
being what they are. I won't tell you what they are. I'll just
wait your reaction. Look up earth lights on and see. Damnit, Leon,
can we not have any fun? You can? But I mean exactly
a mystery to you. Then you would say to you, hey not,
but there's an art. You'd say, well, you got what's older like
it's actually paused by this, And that's how that worked. I didn't come
in braid of forms, especially around volcanoes. They look like they actually go
into valcanoes and outer valcanes like the up Olds. Oh my god, people
recorded you have pos going into valcan What did you call them? It's for
earth eartht like phenomenal. Yeah, And the other thing too is that,
oh I had a thought there. I don't matter what, it doesn't matter.
I'm not talking much night. It similar somebody which is a happening on
ring, but you know, you just want to find out. I do
have a question though, for the apple a gag the apple. I have
a question about the turtle the shelt too. What time of year was it
when you found that when you put that out? Summertime? This was about
a month ago. I'd have to look and see when though, Okay,
Instagram post was but I think it was. It was about a month ago
or so. Hold on them. I'll tell you exactly when I posted the
Instagram stuff. Maybe I clearly don't know how to work my own Instagram.
Top of having a challenge, October seventeenth, this one, I posted this
on Instagram, so it would have been within a week of that all this
this, I discovered the turtle shield and that that all went down within Did
you say the turtle shaw? What was on? What was it? You
said it was on something? What was Yeah, I'm trying to I'm gonna
try to pull that up and let you look at that too while we're talking.
But it was literally on like a cedar stump. Let me share my
screen again. Sorry, whoever's having to click the No, that's okay,
we're on the fly here present share screen. I hope I wasn't looking at
me anything I wasn't supposed to earlier. Can you see my screen? Okay?
Yeah, all right, So that's not what I wanted to do.
So that's that's kind of like some of the stuff that I'm seeing as far
as the structures. But here's the stump. Here's the stump, the famous
stump where the the turtle show was. I'm going to get back to.
There's one that I recorded that actually when I walked up to the turtle show.
Here's where I walked up to the Turtle Show. So it's it's sitting
there like this, and I'm giving the I'm doing my due diligence here and
giving you a lay of the land. But yeah, it was sitting in
the side of the stump. So and okay, so and this was an
empty turtle show grey oh turtle in the scale anymore. Yeah, there was
I don't know if you could see it in the video, but there's a
little bit of debris. It looked like it had been there for a while,
which confused me because we walked past there at least twice a day and
I'd never noticed this. But otherwise it was bleached out and it looked like
it had been outside for quite a bit, quite a while. I don't
know, man, I don't know how a turtle shell would end up there
unless something with thumbs placed it there. Ye, no money had asked the
chat you think maybe you said you saw the you know, raccoons and stuff.
They asked if the wonder if maybe the raccoons could have put it up
on there. I don't know if there's a possibility of that, but it
could be. I mean they picked it close to what you wanted to know
about. Leon you said you had a question about Well, no, I
just want I mean, there's so much well we need you talking about Octamus
rings are to me hearing that I don't look to Oh, somebody's on your
property. I moved something. It's on your property, and it's more some
type of wild lafe and it's in wildlife playwood while source of stream season like
a turtle shell for instance. And and the other thing too is if something
is eating that m whatever it was inside of that turtle shell. It will
keep. It will come back on a regular basis yearly almost to check it
out and move it around again. So I'm not disclaiming anything. I'm just
looking at like you said, being objective, you know, and more likely
when I look at the apple to the apple to me doesn't look like it's
done by it. The larger animal looks like but that again I can't see
it because it's I'm like old not but the markings on it aren't the same.
Like I said, I have hundreds of thousands and fifty trees on it.
So you get to see the wildlife that kind of oats when they're biting
it. The mice but they're biting it. The weasels and boxes and the
black bear, you know, all the others start chomping on. And the
reason why I asked you about the time of year is sometimes what they'll do
is instead of biting it, they'll lick it and pinning on what because it
dip is hotter out that they're trying to get the moisture out of it and
puts it sweet te right, so they're not going to show any teeth mark,
but they'll take the skin off, especially if it's rotted, and so
it looks kind of bizarre when you're looking at you know, assessing it correctly.
Yell, gave your brain trace of what's looking at instill just full of
French like he did, you know, check it out. Look you think
that I don't know, I am with Netherland. Maybe we do have a
squatternnut properly addingverything to choose you and choose that, you know, get the
generator. You get five hundred bucks to generator. Yeah, you're took camera
down like month, stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. Well,
be right back after these messages. So yeah, I don't know, it's
weird man. Yeah. Generally we could rule out that the turtle climbed up
on that stuff itself and then just died. And I guess that's a possibility.
I've never seen turtles climbed up on himself. But well, the other
thing it could be too is that as soon as you said a turtle on
a stump, I went to rate two because we have turtles here as well,
bought to the same size. How big was that show as a half?
I mean it was probably I don't know what five inches by three and
a half or something like that before. So we have crows out here that
grab turtles, pick them up and will drop them on the stumps and then
they'll be on the stump eating the insides at the turtle. So that's one
other idea too, theous the idea, how could it be from airedful over
there? Well, yet you got to raise the or crowl around here twice
to say the crows here that to now you know, it's not a big
deeper than ten of things. So I don't know if that's what it was.
They're just saying, I'm open to any any and all suggestions. I'm
definitely not saying it was. I'm just has a collected for you. Bryan
says Brian. Where can we watch the Vice video? Yes, very interesting
question. So I if you're familiar with the Vice network, they have their
own We actually watched it on the Vice network app that you can get on
the on your phone or computer or whatever. I'm sure if it aired on
Vice, if you have cable, you can go back and watch it there
as well. I know they're eventually going to put it out. They have
a pretty large YouTube channel. I think they have about sixteen million subscribers on
the YouTube channel. It'll probably be there over the next year or so,
but it just ahired at the end of March or April of this year,
so I think you have to have a subscription to or you can do like
a one time free watch or something. I don't know. I don't know
how that works, but you can get it on anywhere you can get the
Vice Network. The show is called In My Own World and my episode on
that show was called big Foot Hunters, so you can you can check that
out. Logan, I can't pronounce your last name, Logan, I'm sorry,
wants to know. Apparently you know him, Brian. He says,
when will you head up to radium with me, Kyle Todd and also try
again with an organic, non rotten apple. Well, first of all,
what's up, Logan? Logan has been on my show Super Super Guy,
really great witness, and he's been on a couple of expeditions with standing and
he's talking about me coming on an ex expedition up to Radium with he and
Todd and Kyle who does the Discovering Bigfoot podcast. I would definitely like to
do that. I tried to work it out this year I've talked about it
on the show. It just didn't work out in the schedule, but hopefully
I'll maybe be banking a trip up to do that next year. So we'll
see awesome decking out and see if there's any other Earlier, somebody had asked
Brian where they could watch his true crime stuff, So the true I do
have a YouTube page. I have a Sasquatch Odyssey YouTube page that's I don't
know, five hundred and fifty or so subscribers. I have not been posting
a ton of stuff over there, but I'm gonna start. I've already started
posting more videos over there. The true Crime stuff is just an audio podcast.
So anywhere you get podcast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google podcast,
iHeartRadio, anywhere you can listen to a podcast, look up True Crime Odyssey
and it's all there. Any any of the shows that I do sasqua Which
Odyssey, True Crime Odyssey, or Paranormal Odyssey or all there. The Weird
Encounters show that I do on the Untold Radio network is YouTube, primarily YouTube,
but you can also get that anywhere you listen to audio podcast as well,
but it's on the Untold. It's under the Untold Radio AM. So
if you're if you're looking for that on podcast, it's Weird Encounters under Untold
Radio AM. And there there are two different links in the description of this
show for Brian also one of that length. One of those links is to
Sasquage Odyssey Channel and the other link is for his show Weird Encounter that I
was on and he's had several people on that'll link do with that which is
on the Unfold Radio. And if there's any other links, Brian that you
want me to put up there, I feel free to s done them,
Billy, and I'll add them in as well. That's pretty got a cross
on you and Nikki from Harry Man Hopes and Brian the Voice Dream Well,
I definitely appreciate that. And yes, Files, guys, the bat mom
is asking them if they are my three robins. Yes, Tyler, Danny
and Josh are all my three robins over there? All right. If you
guys, if you haven't listened to k y X Files, you gotta check
those guys out. They do a really, really cool show. They're actually
I interviewed them again. They've been on the show before and they'll be back
in the next couple of weeks. So they've always got some really really cool
stories though, So Ye'll make sure you check those guys out. Well,
I have to agree with Nikki. You have a dreamy voice, Brian,
Oh, it's it's the five hundred dollars microphone. It's not me. You.
You have a face for radio, as they say, I have a
face for radio, and the five hundred dollars microphone makes me sound dream more.
You definitely do have. Yeah. Well, you know it's easy,
It's easy to talk to you. That's why I enjoyed. I really enjoyed
the interviewer that we did on your show. That was awesome. It's great.
Yeah, Actually, interviews you did with Joe and Tom, I thought
thomas Interview Too was one of Thomas's best interviews real and what's that was a
compliment for sure. Owise it was a great show. He was very systematic,
he was rid and targeted. He a lot of like everything was just
nice, packaged and delivered. Yeah, thins are just garls that I've been
wanted to develop as I go along, as to get better with interviewing too,
as as I get people on to interview Ninja, he says, has
Brian, ever seen any footprints on my property as well as recorded any vocalization.
That's a great question, and no and no. So if you're familiar
with this area, it's all pretty hard packed in these woods. Like we
have almost zero pine trees, so we don't have a bunch of pine needles,
but there is a shiit ton of leaves and unless it's rained. I
mean, there's some really interesting year areas here that we have, like natural
springs that are wet year round, and I literally check those at least a
couple of times a week if I'm out hiking with the dogs, I'll go
over and brush back the leaves and just make sure I don't see any footprints.
Just for shits and giggles, but no. And David Ellis has been
after me, Oh my god, from the Olympic Project. David has been
kicking my ass for the last thirteen months to try to get me to put
it. He's like, just put out one zoom recorder and record on your
property, and I'm gonna do it. I promise, I'm gonna do it.
I just haven't done it because I don't have time to listen to the
audio. Honestly, I don't want to go and pay two hundred bucks for
a decent recorder and then put it out and record for three or four days
and then not have time to listen to it. So I almost told David,
like, if you want to analyze everything, then I'll send it to
you, but I'll I'll do the recording. So he might do that.
I don't know he's I think he's David's going to come back on the show
here in the next couple of months, hopefully if we can work out our
schedules, so I may propose that to him and maybe do some recording,
because we do hear some interesting things. Most ninety eight percent of it's coyotes,
and I think maybe a big cat here and there. But you know,
we haven't heard the Ohio how stuff. I don't think I've heard that
since last year. Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I mean
you never know, man, I mean, if if you do indeed have
any kind of sasquage that you know whether or not, I mean maybe not,
you know, just like making that property their home, but at least
passing through occasionally going from place or whatever, you never know what you might
record out there. I was a good idea but I don't think that.
I think that sometimes certain people, for some people anyway, I should say
that I think they're always about yeah, a lot of a lot of audio.
I don't think they realize how much work goes into listening to all that
audio too, because I can tell you what I go out, you know,
and I could just go out out of three days a camping trip and
I put out an audio reporter and I can record twelve hours, you know,
of audio, or if I record all three days, you know,
I could have up to twenty four hours and you know, audio recording going
on. And that's a lot to listen to, man, just to try
to capture something that doesn't sound like it belongs right. So, yeah,
it takes a lot to do with audio. But again, having said that,
when there is something that you pit in there, it's it almost makes
it worth it. When you find some of it, Holy crap, what
is it that you know? And then then the work is just beginning,
because now you gotta go, well, I don't know who that is,
so now I got to look up and try to find out what it could
be, you know. And so far on batting about a thousand I'm figuring
out certain things. I've only got one thing that's our shelf that I don't
know what it is, and I don't think it's faithbook, and considering my
skepticism about paranormal stuff, I don't know, but I might have to.
I might have to put it into that realm, even though I'm not even
sure if that's real or not. Like it's there, so well, you
should send it over to David Ellis. David could probably take a listen and
he might be I mean, he's listened to so many different sounds, he
might come up with something for you. Jim, you said you you had
done paranormal stuff in the past. Where are you on EVPs because that's really
the only tangible thing I've ever experienced, like paranormally was. Yeah, I'm
fully onboard with. And that's what he's got. I always screwed that up.
That's what he's got. He doesn't want to hear about it. That's
what he got. He's believer. Yeah, I'm I've done done them when
we went to the prison, done spearbox thing. You know who when there's
no one else that can be speaking and there's a voice there speaking of sentence,
you know you know, it was solidified for me when my sister was
having this issue where my niece and my nephew, who were much younger at
the time, we're talking about this old man that they were interacting with in
their house and she was seeing shadows. My mom had seen shadows that she
was leaving before. So we went down there and did a paranormal investigation.
And by that I mean I took my two dogs and my iPhone, and
you know dogs are sensitive to that kind of stuff, right, So I
let the dogs running around and you know, for a couple of hours,
and I'm kind of I don't consider myself a psychic or anything of that,
but I've been able to feel things in the past, or at least I
think you walk into places and the hair stands up on the back of your
neck and you get those feelings and other people really aren't picking up whatever being
put down, but I'm the person who feels that. So I didn't feel
anything in this place. I didn't feel uneasy, nothing. We've been there
for two or three hours. Nothing's happening. So I'm gonna do what I
do is I'm gonna provoke, right, which is probably the one thing you
should never do in a paranormal situation, especially it's malevolent, right. But
I'm walking down the hallway and I'm like, you know, you're scaring my
nephew. He's a kid. You're supposed to be a grown man. I'm
a grown man. I'm not scared of you. You can't scare me.
There's nothing you could do to scare me. I'm not scared of you at
all. And I'm recording with my iPhone. So I finished provoking, and
we walked back and we all can huddle up, and I play back the
recording and I'm like, I'm not scared of you. There's nothing you could
do to scare me. I'm not scared of you at all. And clear
as day, crisp and clear, I hear you should be. I was
out, I was done. I'm like, I'm out. We're out of
here, clear as day, right. And I've never experienced anything like that.
I've heard other people, you know, EVPs and you know, spirit
boxes and those kind of things on the ghost shows or whatnot, but this
was undeniable. Like even skeptics. My mom's a skeptical, Danny's a skeptic.
Everybody listening was like, oh, my god, that is creepy.
I was like, Okay, we're out of here. I'm done. Yeah,
well, if you've cleaned it up just a little bit, it cleared
a clean I mean you can hear it over the sound of the background noise.
Does hey mister, what's up? And I listened to this saying a
billion times and I can't quite pick out the hey mister part, but I
think I know what she's talking about. But I definitely hear something that that
sounds to me like it's saying what's up? Or what's that? And and
and the more I've listened to it, it does seem like it's closer to
saying what's up. And I'm like, I don't know what that is because
it's not a human voice. I can tell you that right now. I
don't know where it came from, but it was there and it kind of
creeped me out. And I put it in the background because I'm like,
that is not sasplots, So there's no way you can trollab me. That's
a SASPLI I don't believe it. But I was telling you, Joe,
it's not a big foot, and that's funny. It's funny because you know,
this is out where I like camp and it's out where I've had my
encounter with Rostuff, and you know, encountering Roster out there has not been
enough to actually scare me out of that camping spot. I still go camping
there, and I go when I go camping there, I still have hopes
that maybe I'll see them again. But that is the one thing that could
scare me and go, I'm not going back there. Man. You know,
if this what if it was able to be proven that this is just
yeah, because it's creepy. It's just creepy. And that's why it's on
a back burder right now. It's like if I absis about it too much,
it's you know, you don't even you want to go to sleep tonight.
Donald has a question. I'm looking. I'm glad you saw that because
I wanted to bring that up. So do you think there is something to
throw the fourteen year olds having these experiences seem to be more than any other
age bracket? I do because and I say that only because it's come up
so many times on the show, because I had a lot of experiences between
that age, and there seems to be something at least paranormally, if you
believe any of this at all. Paranormally, there's something about like prepubescent and
pubescent boys and girls that seem to attract the paranormal. I don't know if
it's just because we're going crazy because of the hormones and we just all make
a bunch of shit up or what, but there seems to be something to
that. Leon is probably dying right now. It's like that is absolutely not
true. Yeah, but no, no, no, I'm saying I'm not
saying it's not true the definitions you guys are putting on stuff, because you
know you guys are Oh, well, I'm doing Paranormal Investigator. Yeah,
well, I investigate para normal too, but I also investigate all their gadgets
and how they work and all that kind of stuff. So, as a
polite person, as a guest on the show, I'm just listening to people's
ideas. That's not saying that you're not experiencing something. I would just be
caution on the narration that you're placing on it, because I think there's information
out there you could probably dabble into. Don't be trapped in your own cognitive
dissidents in regards to wanting to believe in something and the very true and look
at all sides of everything even when it irks you. That's how you become
rounded in regards to information and data, and you've become objective and so you're
not spook whether there's a ghost there or not. At Jen and I talked
about this. I mean, I've had experience when I was again during that
cycle point when you're talking about the h thing where you know what, a
guy followed me all the way We moved to a house on Military basically moved
to a house and I was woke up to mill and I was crying.
My mom came upstairs to see what was moving on, and I followed it
all the way down to the bedroom and was working that night and I wanted
to sleep a thing because it was too scared, and it followed us all
later on this apparition like you would see on PB. Followed it all the
way down and came to the end of the bed in my mom's bed,
and I remember sitting at the end of the lab with Thosera sheets are player.
He walks in and he's sitting there looking and I'm just closing, no
expression on his face, all that kind of translucent gray look that they would
have as somebody entered up. There was a guy who killed himself in the
house, So was that the guy? I don't know. My brain would
have Punoble's thoughts together, But it doesn't mean that that's a factual of what's
happening. But the problem with the age group you're talking about is it it's
called the magical stage, and the magic stage of development is your braves still
separating in order to have a rational brain, logical brain to the magical brain.
And that's a very confusing time for a lot of kids, and especially
if you out of abused children. At that age, they've spiritualized the event,
meaning that somehow they turn around and blame themselves they be happening, that's
happened, and there, I mean, there's a whole much of that Aderson
receives about it because I understand I have I know, I like mysteries,
I like I like ye know, now what kind of stuff. But I
also know that a fan is in your home and it's one hundred forty eight
creakings. Oh why is it? Decimals? They didn't get decided camera of
the exact thing, but everyone in that room will freak out and we'll think
that there's something, you know, weird and it's crazy, real and cold
nerds and all feel the same thing. And I said, yeah, but
the thing I'm noticing is you got a fan, and that fan is going
to cause you some psychological neurological problems because of the frequency it's on. And
so you know, there's a great TV show camera what they's called. But
it's got three different type of people you want on a team like this.
Once a priest and other guy's a skeptic and another winds as a lawyer.
I think there's a life at them. So they're always good because they're always
bantering about every time they come into experience. But it's a good show to
watch because it shows you some of the dynamics that you can walk into and
not realize they walking into serf. Like the other day, this door right
behind me here. I was here with the therapist friend of mine and we're
exiting over there, sitting over here, and as we were talking, that
door going down to my basement opened up by itself, like it literally and
I lived here for twelve ers. That door has never opened up by itself
and then closed itself. And what the house i'man the apro gyman used to
be an old Turkey slaughterhouse. Zomi in the middle of the night, I
can just jo that's just an add on U were sake. But you know,
like yeah, I could sit there and then every time I see something
unique, because I'm peaque already in my brain. Why why is that?
Because they here, you know, eat your door, sports and stuff.
I have friends who were on TV shows that beats the paran almal stuff,
and at least to their credit, they tried to bump it all, you
know, like this one there was funny this one house that was on the
show. They had a experience where the the people in the house kept saying
while you could hear baby crying through the vans and stuff like that. So
he recorded it and I listened to it and like that always said, you
know what that is? He goes, yeah, you know what it is.
What do you think it is? It's an owl? And he goes,
yeah, it's a totally out the reason why they wanted the people wanted
to be on the show. Now, like it goes back to hopxes.
You know if you're wanting to find out any kind of actual stuff. It's
always hopes, its an every right, so it does something matter. They
wanted that they did them to do a show about their house was because they
thought they'd get more money if Bill bismanted that, and that's what the end
they finding out. So, you know, I like any of this kind
of mystery stuff, but I want to stay whether I've been in with a
sasquatch, a grizzly or ghosts, I want to figure out what I'm looking
at and how do you how does one do that? And so I like
using the scientific method. I like to find out all the things that can
be. And I'm still in any of those fields that I just mentioned,
You're still gonna be stuck with a third of it unexplained, and that's where
you're going to have your problems of figuring out or well, I mean,
you know playing you know, some of the spear box apps you can put
on your phone, they're connected to somewhere right so there as blue there people
can be listening and make it sound like whatever you're you're speaking about. But
if you're taking an actual fierbox, yeah and running something that's playing backwards through
it and you're still getting forward clear speech. Oh you can get the same
way. We look where you just said if you run something backwards, so
you can get something clear speech. Yeah, well you can run something backwards
and get clear speech running backwards too, like for instance, brock Lucy back
in the eighties where you have like the with a lot of the the shock
old, the hatchecks and the spear boxes that you can buy. Now it'll
cycle through what is it like a second every second it changes the station.
Let's yes, can run the audio backwards at the same time. If you
had both of those things going on, and you're getting something that's cycling every
second, so it's not staying on any one thing long enough to get a
word out, but you're still getting speech. Where does that Olivia, Well,
I've amazing at one point is first of all, I'd grab the box.
I would check out the box, brand name, I would check out
what the frequency was for the brown, how that worked, that whole thing
worked. I wouldn't just oh, here's the spirit box, dude, I'm
sought up by you just hearing the title spirit box. So as a good
investigator, I have to look at all those things I just did documentary last
year on Stakhalo's Mound, and one of the ones we talked about what in
that documentary was about the paranormal investigators. You know that they're all dressed like
they looked like they were military gear and stuff, but don't tend them down
to shot at it to look for a spit and because they're all scared,
you know. And but you're saying it's the same. See this is that
thing? Is that that when you're dealing with any kind of truth, thing
that we would hold here, including myself, is there's there's this offering miss
that comes over us because we feel challenge, but we build unknown not listening
or I don't agree. I'm not coming not angle at all. I'm just
saying from my perspective, if any it comes across any kind of thought.
There's a good documentary online right now. You guys should watch it. It's
three hours long, but it's cut down to three hour right into pieces.
I sent it to Joe Blach and it's called The Ancient Astronauts de Bumped and
it's about that whole TV series and it's a great one to watch because if
you watch it, you'll see how narration is terribly how the human condition is
terribly vulnerable to narration, especially if you're seeing it in the authority way such
as TV. Those shows are TV. That part of that idea of how
you know when you get shows like that that are online and they're ancient,
you know, some agent Astercress series believed well, whole range an astronauts theories
for all, who are they? Well, what kind of schooling debate that
may's schooling or is it a bunch of thoughts? A nice idea, But
what it does is it will show you that how your brain because when I
watch social shows too, I like watching rows like that because it shows techniques
that people use to try to pull you and and and some aren't trying to
pull you at all. And a lot of people that I eat what that
are talking to me about. There's a country, sasquatch. I don't think
they're being deceptive. I don't think they're being closer sir. They've got a
puzzle to try to make growth. It's not going to help me the same
way if I'm dealing in my professional with mental health people that they have a
puzzle in the house that has to be solved. But everyone's too great.
Say dad's an alcoholic. Dad's an alcoholic. That's from all the dollars when
I do that, you know, because that means we have to or have
a kid. That's if you're a person, a younger kid, and you're
a younger person, you're storking addiction. They said, you do recovery.
Well, the problem is good Cover Center is going to say the whole systems
sick. Well, I don't know, we're not sick. He said,
fix him. We'll fix it. It'll fix us, relating to him,
because there's a dancing there. So but it is you're right, then it
is, you know, Brian. I mean, I want to have these
discussions. I can't have one certain channels. I love it. I want
to forever forevermore. I want Leon to now be Leon the equalizer. He
is the equalizer in every conversation. And I do love that. I love
the challenge of because I do fall victim to that. Sometimes I try to
be very objective and very skeptical about everything, but you get bogged down in
the minutia sometimes of your own stuff, and it's like you do fall prey
to that paradolia. All these things can creep into your life when you don't
want it to, and the only voice kind of saying it out there.
The problem is you you're beaut as a negative Nancy, whereas I am just
as receptive. That's why I'm sharing these ideas so that you're not as set,
meaning that you're not going to fall into your own thing. I'm not
gonna follow my own thing. The reason why we have a network channels where
we talk about this stop because that I can say, Joe, what do
you think? Steve? Here's what do you think? Brent, what do
you think? Fallows Sean. It's from iving the Shadow Sasquad arts Sasquad shadows
that right, I can't remember Ga Meruin's name. That's out there. But
the idea about using community is about that. You know, the problem is
I don't. I mean, it's nice to find people trying to think out
of the box, and that's all we're asking the box. You know,
life's pretty marvel It's just the way it is. We don't have to spiritualize
it. Everything we thought was spiritual first we find it later on after we
find out what it is, we realize it's not spiritual, so it was
supernatural. Just makes sense not. We just don't know what why I was
doing it or so anyway, sorry stories maybe or maybe that person was Ray.
Don't don't add the mic the leono. No, I'm not gonna have
a pizza find that. Bob says, she loves that when you do that.
You said a girl voice on steroids or something. Well, there was
a chat. I've tried to keep up with your questions and I've been watching
occasionally trying to pay attention. Child. You did have a follow He had
a follow up question, quickball question. He said, have you ever heard
I'm the property anything that you've all or term as wood Knox or any kind
of like chatter, that kind of thing. No, people have asked me
that in the past about wood Knox in particular, and no, I've never
heard anything I would consider I've done Knox, probably after a couple of glasses
of wine. I may or may not have won out and knocked up a
couple of threes. But that's one of those things that I don't necessarily subscribe
to either, is the wooden knock thing. You know, I've had tons
of people on the show that claim they've heard wood Knox, and I think
Pat from squatsch Talk recently even posted something about he had a wooden knock encounter.
He sent me a message about his woodknock and counter which I want to
get into with him. I certainly want to have him on the show and
talk about it. But I don't necessarily subscribe to bigfoot doing wood knocks because
I don't think it's just like that, very much like the tree structures we
were talking about earlier. I don't think anybody's ever had a situation where they
actually witnessed a big foot or sasquatch either making a tree structure and or doing
a woodknock. And then I've had people like Drown Moorehead and other people on
the show that have sort of these theories about maybe they're doing it with their
tongue or their mouth, or its teeth clacking or maybe even rock clacking things
like that. I don't know. I'm just not totally there with the woodknock
thing. But no, outside of we have these really big I can't remember
that the name is escaping me. We have these really huge woodpeckers that they're
pilated. I can't aliate it yet. Affiliated woodpeckers. They're beautiful, and
we have them on the property and we hear them all the time. But
it's clearly a woodpecker making these noises. And I've heard people subs or describe
what they thought was wood knocks as these really rapid, faster than any human
could ever do wooden knocks. I'm like, well, that's a woodpecker.
Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see moving right back after these messages.
Yeah, yeah, and there's yeah, the affiliated woodpecker, and you are.
It's a long way off right when they do, they're not right around
the corner, and you can hear it pretty clearly. But these things are
like I don't know, birds there maybe two or three four pounds. I
mean that's huge. Yeah, actually interesting interesting Venett trivia woody woodpecker was actually
affiliated woodpecker though they're just a little bit of a boat to keep in your
hat. Yeah, they're beautiful birds if you get to see them a person
there, Yeah, there they are, and and man, can they make
some noise. That's true with the wooden knock thing. And I agree with
you other woodenknock thing. I've heard certain ones that sounded very interesting to me,
like what in the hell was that you know, a lot of people
bring up this thing about the Louisville slugger sound. Now I've had that happen.
I've heard that a few times with myself going what in the hell unless
it is somebody with a baseball bat out here smacking a tree. But yeah,
I mean, I don't know. Do I think it's a possibility that
maybe they could if sasquatch were to do it, why would they be doing
it. Maybe it's some form of non verbal communication between them. Maybe possibly,
But again, there's no real proof that. The best thing you can
do is okay five record them, and you know, guess what, go
towards wherever you're hearing see if you can see what's doing it. That's all
I can say. Now that's easier said than done at night. During the
daytime I hear would not sure. I'm probably gonna go towards wherever it is
at night. I'm not so sure if I want to go trape up into
the dark, fooky woods at night looking for a wood knock, because what
if it is? What if it's a dog man? Oh No, I
don't know about dog man knocking. I've never earned that though. And Jeff,
you said you had a question. If you're still the chat you,
Jeff said he had asked a question about something to do with your experience in
a law enforcement If you'd like to ask that question again, I would certainly
keep my eye open for it if you want to ask that question. So
what I would like to know is now in your time, and you don't
have to name any names or anything. I just asked it again. It's
in off chaps. Am I missing it somewhere? You're old? I am,
obviously because I'm trying this fine, I'm looking for it and don't see
it. Yeah, I scrolled back a bit too to it either. Are
you just nussing? Would Jeff tild you just follow questions like he usually?
Is that good thing? Bless me? That's an interesting thing. Do you
think there's such a thing as a bigfoot ghost? Well? I don't know.
Some interesting questions. Well, now, while we're waiting to see if
Jeff ever actually puts up this question, I can't buy it. Jeff.
Sorry, I don't know whether you're copy and paste Jeff copy and paste?
Are you? Oh you gotta boy? You gotta boy? Oh man?
Yeah? Yeah, So you don't have to name names or anything like that.
You know, oh you can if you want to. But I'm interesting
to know out of the people that you've interviewed, especially like I'm a weird
encounters thing, it was like, some of the most credible or what are
some of the most credible things that you've heard in your opinion? Ump custom
Wall comes to a big book thing. Most credible It's hard to say.
I mean, I think I said it. I kind of alluded to it
earlier. I think everybody who comes on the show in their own way are
credible because they truly believe that they've had their experiences. I think there was
a lady from Tennessee that I had on recently that a lot of people reacted
to, and it kind of surprised me. I think her name is Carrie.
I met her a couple of years ago at the Smoking Mountain Big THO
conference and she went on stage and shared her store and I immediately when she
came off stage, I went up and I wasn't there as a vendor.
I was just there to check out the conference. That was the first time
I'd ever been, and I handed my card and I said, hey,
I'd do a Sasquatch encounter show. I'd love to have you on to share
your encounter, and she wasn't ready. You know, she did it there,
but it was sort of a you know, you're up in this big
room and it's a big stage. But she felt safe doing it there for
whatever reason. But it was different sitting down behind a microphone and doing it
on the show. So it took her about a year and a half for
her to reach back out to me and say, I think I'm ready to
sell my story. And she had some really compelling encounters and experiences, face
to face encounters, some vocalization things that went on, some you know,
some things that were pretty subjective that could be other things or whatnot. But
she was a very compelling witness. And I've had tons I mean we're two
hundred and thirty plus episodes in on the show. You know, I go
back to probably less Stroud survivor Man is one of the most compelling guests that
I've had on the show because he's known for other things other than Bigfoot,
and he's had a couple of experiences. He's been out with odd standing,
which is kind of a thing in the end and of itself, and he's
I really believe what Less has to say. You know, I don't think
he's BSS and me on his stories. I've had some pretty out there encounter
stories, but there's it's it's hard to pin down what's the most credible,
you know, it's more about what's more sensational. Is what really tends to
stick out most of the time. Because Buddy, I felt like I've had
on the show, if at least compelled me enough to have them on the
show, So in and of itself, it's a compelling story for me,
if if that may be any sense whatsoever. Yeah, absolutely, you asked
what was he going to ask me? Okay, here we go, and
Jeffie's using some code words, which I've figured out at least most of it.
As as a law enforcement officer. Took me a minute to figure out
what he meant by leo law enforcement officer as Brian ever had an RP,
and I'm still trying to figure out what that means, claim to have an
encounter with Bigfoot or the paranormal. He's probably saying, if I ever had
anybody like called the police and say they've had an encounter with something CRYPTI related,
and the answer that that would if that's the case, Jeff would be
No, I worked in the city of Atlanta. People have asked me that
question before, if I had encounters with the paranormal while on duty or had
other people call about paranormal encounters while on duty. No, I was in
a big metropolitan area, downtown Atlanta. I worked in Buckhead if you're familiar
with that area. And then I was downtown at the CNN Center where I
closed out my career in midtown Atlanta. So not a whole lot of Bigfoot
activity downtown Atlanta. There's a lot of other activities downtown Atlanta, but not
big Foot or Crypti related. So No, I've never had anybody call and
say, you know, we've had weird alarm calls and things like that that
couldn't really be explained, you know, and my paranormal investigator brain always went
to, why does this alarm keep going off and there's nobody in there?
Could it be a ghost? Now, I've never had anybody actually called and
say they've reported that. Yeah, I was a good question, because I
was. I had had that question, of course, you know, being
the age that I'm getting to now, and i'd forgotten. But yeah,
I had been interested as to whether, as during your time as a while
offorseman officer, if you didn't got any calls about man, I just saw
this big hairy thing run through mile Yard and you you know, kind of
like that that nine one one call you here played. You know that guy
going I don't know what this is. You better get somebody over here,
you know, and they keep saying asking him, is that a guy?
He's like, oh God, I guess it's a guy. He's hute,
he's you know, I was just wondered. So that's that's that's funny.
I love that part of the call of he he's looking for right at me
and the lady goes one, oh yeah, I play that that that has
been I've tried to change the intro of the show in the past, and
my listeners just will not have it. They love that part of the nine
on one call because I played the majority of the call throughout the intro of
the show, and I know, like West at Sasquatch Chronicles, he uses
like five or six seconds at the end where the guy's talking about it.
But I tried to do a lead up to what because this was a this
was like an odyssey It was a journey for this guy because he had called
MU times this thing killed his dog, or he believed it killed his dog
and threw his dog over the fence. He was a Nam, he was
a Vietnam veteran, and he since passed. I believe rest his soul.
But that was the thing about this, this whole thing, was he's calling
and documenting this and he's like, yeah, this thing is like seven feet
tall, and there's something going on here. There's a there's a there there,
And I believe why I don't believe. I know that Ron Moore had
actually interviewed the guy before he passed away, and Ron felt him to be
very credible as a witness, Like he did not want to come forward,
he didn't want his name out there, but he was very clear and what
he saw, and what he saw was a big, hairy thing that was
in his yard. So yeah, that's a nine one one caller. It
gets me every time every time I listened to Trow the show, it's like,
yeah, She's like, oh yeah. I'd always wondered whether that was
an actual nine one one fall, you know, or if it had been
something that you know, was just made for you know, TV basically,
but yeah, because I mean it definitely sounds like the guy is like,
you know, I mean it, you know, because I was like,
well, if it's not real, he's sure as an actor, you know,
because he sounded scared and concerned, like this thing has turned down his
lights and he's like he's you know, he was a hundred percent legit because
you can hear it in the part of a part that it's on mine,
like when he sees this thing stand up in his yard, he's like,
yeah, ah, like he's having this reaction like get the hell out of
here. Yeah, you need to get somebody out here. Now. She's
like, where it is? I guess yeah, I got a couple of
questions here. I want to get to this one first before it gets the
other one. But do I x fous says Brian had he looked into Scott
Carpenter's stuff. His portal stuff is pretty wild. I made my wife,
professional photographer, dissect his videos with me. I have not looked into that.
I have peripheral I guess peripheral fully or peripherally heard of Scott Confenter,
but I've never looked into his stuff. But I definitely will. I will
make a note of that to check it out for sure. Yeah, you
know my opinion. I'm not going to go there because that question was for
you. So yeah, I mean, you know you gotta look at stuff
though, I do it, Bree. That's why I'm constantly looking at everything
that I can, just in case somebody chums up with some comes up for
something that I can go, oh brat. Maybe I've been looking at this
wrong. Well, I see Donald's already talking about some photoshop, so there's
there's gotta be something. There's gotta be a there there, so I'll definitely
look into mister Scott. Yeah. Now the other one was I mean,
just does this well? I mean, people are so curious all the time
about it. Did you also had a questions? Both questions? Good guy,
and he wants to know what your thoughts are. I'm the big film.
Oh boy, that's a rabbit hole in and of itself. I'll be
I'll be brief it. I say, five days out of seven I believe
it's a real sasquatch. But I'm still there's still those couple of days a
week I look at it and could that be Bob Hoeronymous in the suit?
I'm thinking so. But I tell you I had Thomas and Joe and Leon.
You guys both know Thomas he was talking about the inner MEMBERL. Correct
me, I'm I'm probably not saying that right, INTERMEMBERL or whatever. Index
Basically, it's it's got to do with the length of the legs versus the
arms, right, And he was he was talking about that. I know
Thinker Thunker has done a breakdown of the PG film in the past, and
he's pretty convinced that that's a real creature as far as a sasquatch it's concerned
in in the video. Again, I just I have my doubts, you
know, I just I'm not And then there was this whole scuttle butt recently.
Yeah, I had Steve calls on the show a couple of times,
and Steve, one of the reasons he can back to the show was to
talk about this whole kerfuffle, I guess, for lack of a better word,
around the Pucci film and the possibility of this some sort of admission by
Bob Gimlin that it was faked or whatever the case may be. It was
something to do with richter Riolo or whatever. I don't know this this this
whole thing, and at the end of the day, I came down on
the side of you know, I don't I don't necessarily think Bob has admitted
that it's fake, but I'm still not one hundred percent convent that it's real.
And everybody runs a gablet on that. You know, there have been
times in my life where I was one hundred percent shore, and then there's
times where I went I kind of waffled, what no, I no,
no, what about this? And then I went right back to oh,
no, no, no, it's a sas Glige And I'm pretty much there
still. I mean, I believe it's real, but it's this point I
think I mentioned myself on some podcast, maybe mine, maybe somebody else's that
you know, at this point, you know, fifty five years or so
gone by that it's either real, and I and those of us has thought
it's real. We've been right all this time, and if it's not,
it doesn't really matter to me because even if it wasn't real, which I
just see. I don't know Bob given personally like Tom Thomas does, and
but I just don't feel like the man is lying about anything, you know,
I just don't get that feeling from him and having my own encounter which
lends into it. Because even if that turns out that it wasn't and somehow
Bob himself was hoped, that doesn't that's not going to mean the big Boot
isn't real to me because I've seen one. So you know that's where I've
stand on that. Well, that's the thing I've always said, if for
for some reason something happened, say Bob came out and wrote a letter and
gave it to Russell Accord, and Bob passes away next year and the Red
we read the letter out loud on Facebook, it was all a hoax.
It doesn't mean that because Patty isn't real. Bigfoot isn't real. Right,
If they're two different things and people seem to get that mixed up, it's
like if people have been so protective for so many years of the Patterson Gimblin
film, it can be fake and Bigfoot can still be real. So there
are two separate things. Well, I think the thing that sticks in my
crawl is I've seen so many breakdowns and I've done it. I know Leon
has been into this too. I was trained as an interrogator. As a
police officer. And there's a lot of things that you can look at as
far body language and eye movement and all kinds of things when people are telling
stories to see if they're being real or honest or not. And I've seen
breakdowns where people have broken down. How Bob has changed his stories. Things
have fluctuated over the years. But the man's in his nineties at this point.
So if he tells the same story, I tell a story about the
story I told you earlier about twelve years old. Did I get some of
the facts wrong? Absolutely, I'm sure. I can't tell you what time
of day it was. I can't tell you what the date was. So
there's a lot of things that get lost in translation over time. Have I
got the feeling that Bob's lying? No, I've never even met Bob.
But you know, all we really have to go on, honestly, is
that fifty nine seconds or sixty seconds of film, and it has been broken
down next to the Subruder film. It's it's probably the most viewed thing and
most talked about thing ever as far as film is concerned. And there's nobody
that's ever been able to come out and definitively say this is fake and this
is why. And again nobody's come forward with the suit. Didn't produce the
suit. The guy who says here in North Carolina, not too far from
me, who said he sold the suit to Patterson back in the day,
couldn't produce another one that looks just like it. There's so many ways that
it could have been debunked so many times over over the last five decades or
so, and it never has been. So that keeps me hanging on,
you know. Yeah, and I wanted to be real. I've always said
I wanted to be real. I really wanted to be real. But I
still reserve this. A couple of days a week, I scratched my head
and go, I'm just not sure, you know. Yeah, okay,
well we got oh, we had about six minutes left. I do want
to ask you a couple of things here. I got one off, I
got' written down here. What's oh, that's it? So like, what's
your vision? What is your personal vision or hopes for you know, doing
the podcasting in the future. Words, where do you want to take this?
I mean, obviously you've said already you know it as you worked hard
to make this a full time thing for you. So where are you looking
at going you know, forward with this. I'm trying my best to refocus.
I got a little sidetrack there for a while and started doing all of
these other shows. But my heart has always been with Sasquatch Odyssey, So
I'm trying my very best to get back to that, and I want to
put out more shows each week. I want to try some new stuff,
maybe do some live shows and things like that that I've never done before.
I'm trying to build sort of a network. We have the Paranormal World Productions
studio that has now the four shows that we do, so I'm trying to
build sort of a collective with other podcasters that are interested in some of the
same things that we're doing. You know, I found Wayne to take over
the Paranormal show from and it's grown. I mean, he's putting out more
shows, he's growing the audience. So it's not just about me, it's
about sort of I kind of built the audience for that show, and then
I was able to turn it over to Wayne and let him do his own
thing and sort of grow it in a different direction. So that's kind I've
always been my goal for the podcasting thing, I will never stop doing Sasquatch
Odyssey. It's going to go on in perpetuity until I can't talk anymore.
So it's always going to be my thing. Same thing for the true crime
show. I think the True Crime Show will continue down that vein. I'm
looking at some different things of sort of spicing that up a little bit.
I thought about doing a co host. My listeners are not so sure about
that because I've mentioned it on the show and they're like, no, I
don't think you need a co host. So we're trying to figure that out.
But I really want to continue to you know, a lot of shows
that are out there don't do a lot with the researchers, right, they
want just the encounter stories. I've never shied away from having researchers or the
people, the powers that be, you know, the better known names like
the mail drums and stuff like that on my show. I've always thought that's
important, so I try to keep a mixture of that. So ultimately it's
all about the encounter stories. But I think there's and I think we Leon
and Joe both we've talked about that on and off the area about how important
it is. There's a lot of people boots on the ground that are doing
a lot of great things in the research, and those people need to be
highlighted, and I think they be brought to the forefront and say there's real
people out there doing real work in this community. I don't do that.
I do my research behind the microphone. I put out shows about people's encounters.
I'm not in the woods looking for bigfoot every day. There are tons
of people out there who are, and I think it's very important to push
this forward, to highlight those people and say they're doing the right things for
the right reasons. And I'm trying to find those people. So if anybody
out there who is doing that kind of work and they want to come on
the show and they want to be heard, and about eighty five to one
hundred countries on any given day, we've got a pretty decent audience on the
show, reach out to me and we'll bring you on and talk about it.
I think that's important to do because I ultimately it's not just about the
show and making money for me. It's about pushing this forward because I want
to answer those questions for myself, still searching for those answers. Every single
show is just me searching a little bit further and digging a little bit deeper
into the enigma and the phenomenon of Bigfoot. For myself, it was a
really long winded and answer to a shore no, And I agree with you.
I absolutely agree with you. That's what basically, you know, the
focus is for my other show. As you know, I talk about Bigfoot
and talk about this, and I try to get people on, you know,
and especially I would like to be able to get even more researchers on.
But I'm finding that, you know, I'm more people are coming around
now, you know, researchers that I'm reaching out to that I go,
you know, hey, look, you guys are actually out there. You're
not one of these Let's just build a narrative around stuff. You guys are
really and I'd love to be able to just you know, I'm a small
channel, sure, but I still would love to give you the exposure,
you know, to the people that do watch, you know, and follow
my channel. So yeah, absolutely I agree with you on that. And
the last thing I want to ask you is advice. What advice do you
have for people who might be thinking about they want to create a channel and
start their own podcasts. Oh god, don't do it, just don't shi
No. I think. I think one of the things that I've I've really
learned there's a huge difference and you guys can attest to this because the majority
of what you guys do is on YouTube and it's the complete opposite for me.
I am a primarily audio based podcast. So I would say diversify,
right, if you're primarily on YouTube, look at going into and doing some
audio based stuff for your audience. Because not everybody can watch YouTube. Not
everybody can just listen to podcasts and audio form. They prefer to digest it
the way that we're doing here via video. It's happened. I've helped a
couple of different people with their podcast. You know, Dick Secrypted comes to
mind. If you guys listen to Cam or Cameron Buckling over at Dixie Crypton.
When I first met Cam, Cam wasn't on audio or based podcast he
was strictly on YouTube, and we were talking one day and I was like,
dude, you gotta get your show on audio. So he branched out
and created his what If It's True? Podcast on audio based form and his
audience took off and grew. So if you're gonna do it, think about
your audience. It's not just about you and how you consume stuff. It's
about how your audience consumes the content. So be true to your audience,
be true to what you're doing and whatever you're doing. If you're true to
yourself and you're being true to the subject, and you're true to your audience,
come out of what platform you're on. I think it'll it'll take off
and people will resonate without at least that's been the case for me so far.
Thank god. Awesome. Well, look, I want to thank you
Ryan for coming out. Glad we finally got it worked out, man,
because I've been looking forward to it a lot, and I just knew that
it was going to be a really interesting show, and I think it was.
And so I appreciate you taking out the time and spending two hours talking
to us. I know that a lot of signs with your shows you'd like
to keep them do about an hour hour and a half probably, which is
usually probably a good idea for most people. But yeah, we run,
we run this shot, chance of running over that all the time. So
and that's the way it goes. You know, you get into a really
interesting conversation and then all of a sudden, oh my, look it we're
all the time like so I appreciate it. Jen. As always, you
got your fans. Pretty thing that doesn't talk much, so I don't get
a ten some shows I just don't have time to get a word in Edge
one. I tried to drag you in, Jin, I did my part.
I did my part. I've been I've been adequately chastened. Let Jen
speak more, and so we'll do that. Yeah, thank you sir.
Once again, we're coming in and joining us, and I'm glad you were
here and chat. Thank you guys. You guys ask some good questions.
I'm sorry if I did not get to all of them, and some of
them I may have missed. But yeah, I guess we got a round
to him. I hope you guys enjoy this. And again another reminder,
links are in the chat to link you to Brian Sailing guys. That does
it for another don't ask wait a minute what and so with that, I
will close with the same thing I always do. Don't sweat the petty stuff.
Don't pet the sweaty stuff, and Hopefully we'll see you from the ford.
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