WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:08.000 Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and I'm Catherine Jileco. 2 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:12.519 As parents and parenting writers, we can't help but see everything through a parenting 3 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:17.079 lens. But as our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested 4 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:20.960 in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm going over the same parenting 5 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:25.640 topics over and over. So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting 6 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:29.839 wisdom anywhere, we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we thought 7 00:00:29.879 --> 00:00:33.000 about it, and maybe what we can learn from it, if only what 8 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:37.119 not to do. Watch and listen along, and let's all make like we're 9 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:42.280 doing something important for our families. Each Wednesday we bring you a watch or 10 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:47.320 rewatch of an older entertainment property, And for this week of July twenty second, 11 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:52.759 we are continuing We've lost season one, and this week we're talking about 12 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:58.320 episode three, Tabula Rasa, which is the Kate episode, the Kate flashback 13 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:03.239 episode where we find out why indeed, her picture is on the mugshot that 14 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:11.799 Jack and Herley find amongst the dying guys belongings from last week's flashbacks, we 15 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.760 knew that she had been the person handcuffed to the marshall. But we didn't 16 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:21.359 really know what her thing was. But do we still flashbacks? We still 17 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:27.040 don't know exactly what she did. Don't we know how she became a captive? 18 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:37.799 And I'm trying to remember when we find out what she did. I 19 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:42.159 don't. I kind of have a vague memory of what it was, but 20 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:46.079 I don't remember how soon we find out, because as Jack said, it's 21 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:49.239 a new start, starting over all that other stuff. We're dead, we 22 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:56.239 die, This is a new thing. Tabula rasa exactly don't care well. 23 00:01:56.239 --> 00:02:04.879 And we have seen her twice save the life of someone, or at least 24 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:09.000 try to protect someone when it was not in her interest to do so, 25 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:14.560 so she's not so I think we can assume she's not a stone cold killer, 26 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:20.560 but a victim of some circumstance or other that caused her to we trust. 27 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:24.080 Whereas Sawyer, on the other hand, is being painted as just the 28 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:29.039 baddest bad guy and then in the end he doesn't even know how to kill 29 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:32.759 somebody. Come on, man, he tries, he would have been able 30 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:38.599 to kill that dude. Come on, you gotta shoot him in the head, 31 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:51.240 my friend, Oh dear, well, we celebrate the return of Vincent 32 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:59.400 finally, and man Locke doing a parent a solid Wow, what a champ. 33 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:02.199 He could have been the hero and he lets the dad have the moment. 34 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:07.520 Let's all parents, let's just stand and clap for that moment. That's 35 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:10.719 what we're looking for. That's what we're looking for. Please please in the 36 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:15.960 wider world. Although I'm not sure what we were supposed to make of Lock's 37 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:20.080 face at the very end, yes, well, one thing you can make 38 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:24.639 of it is that next week it's his life. Okay, So I don't 39 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:28.080 remember we had a close up of Kate at the end of the last one, 40 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:35.560 but nod. Yeah, but yeah, there's more there than currently meeting 41 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:42.719 me, I for sure. But still that was that was lovely, Yes, 42 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:46.719 and he was making the whistle he was making was a dog whistle apparently, 43 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:50.680 would you know just off hand on me ey, I certainly would not. 44 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:53.639 I was just thinking, oh, man, he did all that work 45 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:55.840 on his little whistle and it's not making any noise or is my sound not 46 00:03:55.960 --> 00:04:00.400 right? And then I realized, here comes Vincent. Yes, that's looking 47 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:03.639 dog by the way, excellent dog casting. Yeah, just not look like 48 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:08.479 he's been running around the jungle for exactly. I was just gonna say, 49 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:15.319 it's been a couple of days and there's apparently a dog groomer on the where 50 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:21.040 he's been swimming in the ocean and then carefully drying himself off somewhere where there's 51 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:30.240 no stand getting a nice blow out and fluff. Yeah. And also did 52 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:32.319 he have a leash on him? I guess he must, because I don't 53 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:35.480 think lock would have just had a leash. Yeah, I don't know. 54 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:39.639 There was quite a nice looking leash, right, he was like, oh, 55 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.199 I found him, and I tied him up to this tree so you 56 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:46.480 can go get stopped pet coo to get a leash, and then gave him 57 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:50.560 a good brush and tied him up to the tree. Gave him a snack 58 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:56.680 because like, what is that dog eating? Who knows? Yeah, yeah, 59 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.600 that's the thing. He doesn't like have blood on his jowl from the 60 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:05.120 small animals he killed to eat. It's like, all together, a awfully 61 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:12.000 looks way better than most of the humans. So I guess the island is 62 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:15.639 magical when it comes to pets or something. Does Vincent get to stay around 63 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:23.120 for the duration or is that a spoiler? Let's let's say I won't spoil 64 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:28.519 it because I really don't know. We won't spoil it. I remember Vincent 65 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:33.240 from the beginning, and actually, actually now spoiler, I do remember a 66 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:38.319 little bit. So, but I think we can all know that this being 67 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:44.480 an American television series, no way didn't kill the dog, right, I'm 68 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:46.360 pretre sure it's true. Dogs are You can't kill a dog. You can 69 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:51.040 kill a you can kill a US Marshall. You can you know, kill 70 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.759 a pie and drag a pilot and leave his bloody body in a tree, 71 00:05:55.279 --> 00:06:00.279 But the dog's gonna look well fed and freshly roomed. Have the series? 72 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:06.720 They're not dumb. Yeah, the people are going to be fighting over the 73 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:13.120 rotting airplane food, but the dog is going to be just fine. There's 74 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:19.839 a full creda Albo was in the uh the baggage commardment right, oh man? 75 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:26.000 What else? We have a little more of Gin and Son, you 76 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:32.839 know, yeah, like mixed signals of how bad is he or what? 77 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:39.560 You know? Yeah, they're just every time you see them, it's like 78 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:43.000 the producers are saying, this is a bookmark. We will get back to 79 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.360 this in a little while. Just just you know, they're holding you don't 80 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:51.480 have time for everybody at all times. There's a lot of characters. Yeah, 81 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:54.759 we'll just give you a little look every now and then we'll get to 82 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:59.560 it. We'll get to it. They'll be flashbacks. So yes, yeah, 83 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:03.240 I mean a network show that has like twenty two episodes a year or 84 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:11.040 whatever, they can give you know, twenty people. Yeah, it's so 85 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.600 wild how long a season of TV used to be. I guess it still 86 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.720 is on the networks, but we're so used to streaming stuff that's like six 87 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:23.360 or eight episodes and this just is going to go on four, right, 88 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:33.879 But anyway, Yeah, so jenn and Son, that will be don't worry 89 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:40.040 about that right now. No, I know she should probably not be naked 90 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:42.399 in the middle of the jungle when people are running around. But still, 91 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:51.399 yeah, okay, told you to wash up and then just put your dirty 92 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:57.120 cardigan back on, so I don't know so much that helps. Yeah, 93 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:01.240 maybe you should have washed that too. They have a little lights somewhere right, 94 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:11.959 ohs man, and I am so appreciating Curly bringing the comic relief pretty 95 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:22.560 much just every time it's needed. Dude, dude, dude, I think 96 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:26.759 you know his name. It is Jack, But that's dude. Is you 97 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:35.600 know, it conveys a little something different. That's right, He's delightful and 98 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:41.360 uh, sayid is just really being painted as the hero hero point hero bright. 99 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:46.440 It's after Jack and the man looks good in an undershirt. Let's just 100 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:54.039 say, yeah, we don't know much about him, but he's out there 101 00:08:54.120 --> 00:09:01.759 leading. Hair is looking good. Yeah, those those beachy waves he's gott 102 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:07.360 he's got called the beachy curls. People pay a lot of money for that. 103 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:13.919 Yeah. Next to the dog grooming place there's hair salon. Get a 104 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:18.639 little styling. If I think, if, if, if Sun looks around 105 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:24.080 long enough, she can find a dry cleaner for that. Oh boy, 106 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.120 yep. So this was the Kate story. And uh, every week, 107 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:33.559 as you can guess, we're going to get somebody else. And this thus 108 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:37.360 filling in the characters without having to do it quite so much. On the 109 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:43.799 island, they can all just be castaways, right. But boy, scranging 110 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:48.919 around, they keep they keep scrangching around in luggage more and more. Pretty 111 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:52.279 soon they're gonna run out of stuff to scrounge. But yeah, let's go 112 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:56.480 in the area there with all the dead bodies and look around for stuff. 113 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:01.639 I'm sure it won't be disgusting. And how long have they been there in 114 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:07.600 the heat? Right? At least a few days? Right, Yeah, 115 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:11.000 it's going to be at the very least insects of some sort. Yeah, 116 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:15.799 well, I'm glad we didn't have to see it. Yes, thank you, 117 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.600 they kept it dark, thank you. We'll just look at the suitcases. 118 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:24.679 Just makes you think when you get on a plane, what do I 119 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:28.799 have in my carry on and in my luggage that would be useful in an 120 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:33.759 emergency to the people who survive, because honestly, probably you're better off if 121 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.960 you get killed. Yeah, what what would they find in my suitcases? 122 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.360 Is they were picking through? Should I pack carefully? Should I put it 123 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:46.840 in anything? Embarrassing? You never think about that? Should I bring some 124 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:54.000 industrial strength antibiotics? Just not enough people bring antibiotics with them on a trip. 125 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.679 What is the matter with these people? Are none of them like post 126 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:01.799 surgical or anything? Come on, Yeah, no kid has an ear infection? 127 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:07.519 Well, I suppose a child's ear infection. And about a child's dose 128 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:11.080 of amoxicillin isn't going to do much for the guy with the giant a hole 129 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:16.279 and in the side of his body, he was pretty he kind of he 130 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.600 kept rallying that dude, I don't know. Yeah, he's like the Man 131 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.759 of Iron. He kept coming back, coming back. He is dying, 132 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:28.039 but he has enough strength to try to strangle Kate. Yep, she's very 133 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:33.120 small, her neck is fairly narrow. But still who knew he had that 134 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:37.440 still in him? Yeah? Impressive. Yes, made a tough stuff. 135 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:48.039 Yeah, they the whole Like the way he he didn't seem to be following 136 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:54.960 the rule book of the marshals let's say no, no, by the way, 137 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:56.159 seem to be enjoying his work a little bit. Yeah, by the 138 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:03.240 way he acted in the in the pickup trucks in the Australian outback or wherever, 139 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:11.000 And like what happened? I mean she she grabs the steering wheel, 140 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:16.440 she rolls the farmer's pickup truck down a hill and drags him up. But 141 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:20.840 where what happened to the to the marshal at that point? Yeah, like, 142 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.919 I guess he's driving. Well he came back and caught her, I 143 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:31.320 think, Yeah, so yeah, he must have liked been what the heck 144 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:35.279 and then turned a right to come back. Takes a moment. She hadn't 145 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:37.279 pulled the guy out of the truck. She could have been going right. 146 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:41.799 The guy and his farm comes off, I know, and I had sort 147 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:46.360 of missed or I had forgotten that. You know, he had a prosthetic 148 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:52.200 arment. So then when she like yanked it off of him during the during 149 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:56.799 the rescue, it did take me aback for a moment. Yeah, he 150 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:01.240 did seem like such a nice guy. Seat he wound up turning her in. 151 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.440 But you know, the mortgage. I hear you, my property taxes 152 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:16.639 are due. I might turn somebody in for there. But on a parenting 153 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.759 note, I enjoyed when Michael said to Walt, I'm going to get your 154 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:26.759 dog back as soon as it stops raining, and then it immediately He's like, 155 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:37.159 great, thanks so much. We have all been there like no, 156 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:39.240 no, no. When I say those things, it's supposed to buy me 157 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:45.600 time. Right. He's still learning about how to be a dad. He's 158 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:50.679 got a lot, he's got a lot left to learn, and he's not 159 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:56.480 got the most ideal place to be learned. No, surely not. There's 160 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:01.039 one big triumph was courtesy of Locke. And you also do want to worry 161 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:03.960 when your kid says, oh, yeah, I've been hanging out with this 162 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.399 old guy down on the beach. He told me a secret. I'm not 163 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.320 just to tell anybody. I kept waiting for him to just say, well, 164 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:18.360 he taught me how to play back gammon. That's fairly innocuous. Yes, 165 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:26.080 yes, it's like Michael doesn't have enough to worry about right now, 166 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:28.320 and he's got to worry about the intentions of the old guy on the beach 167 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:37.039 telling his son's secrets, but then redeeming himself by letting Michael. Absolutely. 168 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:41.120 Yeah, we'll just give him a pass for one week until we get his 169 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:54.840 backstory a right, probably they're just playing back goodness, Well, that is 170 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:58.200 another episode of Lost. How did you deal with it? There was more 171 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.279 running in the jungle? Did you just close your eyes? Yeah? I 172 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:07.440 did, Okay, I looked away when necessary and closed my eyes and uh 173 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:13.360 yeah. But it wasn't too too too much, you know, it was 174 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:18.840 just a little bit. It was just Michael, you know, running away 175 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:24.759 and running into into sun. And then there was you know, they keep 176 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:30.720 they give us a little bit of the airplane crash flashback like almost every week, 177 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:33.200 it seems, yes, they do, and it's almost always the same 178 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:37.960 scene with the one shadowy body flying flying up to the ceiling and then another 179 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:43.120 weather one flying out the air, wouldn't Yeah, it's just yeah. After 180 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.559 a while it's like, oh yeah this again, right, Oh my god, 181 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:50.720 yeah I saw that. I get it. Yeah it was bad. 182 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:56.639 Sure, sure these look at these schmo's down here on the beach. What 183 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:58.879 are they gonna do? And this is what we're interested in? Yes, 184 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:03.399 yes, so hopefully it was just that the first one was the worst. 185 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:10.240 And yeah from here, so I hope so it's fun because I am interested, 186 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:11.879 you know, Yeah, now I want to know. I mean, 187 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:18.320 they could hardly throw throw more on the wall than they have to. Like 188 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:19.360 you like this guy? I know you don't like this guy? How about 189 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:22.759 this guy? How about this? How about her? She seems interesting? 190 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:26.000 No, okay, well we have about five other people over here. What 191 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:27.879 do you think you know, there's just all the faceless extras who are just 192 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:33.919 yeah, just the rest of the forty gambling around on the beach like no 193 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:41.559 lines. Maybe I'll pick this random piece of metal up, or maybe I 194 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:45.600 there's a suitcase here. I don't know. One seemed of like two people 195 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:48.559 just like comparing what they'd found in suitcases, like they were making some sort 196 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:51.639 of barter like, right, got a T shirt? Here? Child says 197 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:56.440 seven, once you got I got a pair of sneakers. Let's see those 198 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:03.879 are better? Well. Well, next week we will continue with season one, 199 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:08.559 episode four, which is called walk About. Recently people were making their 200 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:12.599 lists to the best lost episodes with this coming back to Netflix, and walk 201 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:18.000 About was on those lists. So okay, it is a little bit of 202 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:23.160 a game changer. So and it is also the the the lot you know, 203 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:26.519 given who we focused on at the end of the episode, that is 204 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:32.279 a hint as to who the next one will be flashbacking and Terry O'Quinn can 205 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:37.200 bring it. Let's just say so. We will see you back here tomorrow 206 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:41.519 for our weekly roundup. You don't have to take a plane, just wait 207 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.599 for it to come up on your podcast. Thank you for listening. You 208 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:49.759 can find all our episodes on spreaker, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or 209 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:53.480 wherever you get your podcasts. 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