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Let's go ahead, get those mics
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introduce our great musical guests. So
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Matt Collier and you are from the
band Witch Trot. Yes? And is

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it by the way, is it
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I can't figure out online if it's
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the month. Yeah, it is
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second syllable also capitalized? Yes?
Oh? Okay, So I got it

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right then in the Facebook post I
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So we have Matt Collier is here
and Edward McPherson. Am I saying

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last name correctly? That is how
it's pronounced. Very impressive You got it

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right the first time, because a
lot of people don't. Why what do

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people usually say McPherson. They usually
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it, I think McPherson is the
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Oh, I think that's it.
So you're a Scottish of Scottish descent,

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and Gottish people get upset if you
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and assume it's the same, because
it's not the same. You're different.

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At that point, you're in over
my head. See I'm irish,

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so I understand these things. But
by the way, you guys are getting

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some love in the Facebook live chat
already. Let's see, we have Adam

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Jocelyn from able Blood. We were
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bit. He says, hello,
Matt ce and hello witch Trot. What's

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up fellas, and Isaac Banks in
the chat room says witch Trot rocks all

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right, yeah, yeah, and
I thought there was another it, and

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Malcolm Sols says yeah, says witch
Trot rules. Let's see. I think

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there might be some other people in
here too. It's a very very busy

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chat room, which we love to
see. And now if you're watching online,

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you can see that Matt has an
acoustic guitar with him, so we're

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gonna hear some music. Matt's gonna
play something for us from the band,

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and we're also we have a brand
new and I think it'll be the world

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radio premiere right of this newly remastered
song that we're gonna play it a little

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bit. Yes, very nice.
We like the world radio premieres. Around

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here, very very good, But
I don't should we go ahead and and

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have you play? I'm dying to
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we do that, can you tell
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Is this? Is this a witch
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what have you got for us?
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It's one of the ones we recorded
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We just got it mastered, so
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be hearing it. Really Yeah,
very cool, Yeah, very cool.

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All right, well, yeah,
if you want to uh now, what

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is this called parallax? Parallax?
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you're ready, Matt, I'm dying
to hear you play. Morn the absence

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of all your restless peaks to the
place up in swanders, scrounging of wood.

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I'm indifferent to motivated by survival.
I never want to miss this,

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remember ants, could you just leave
me alone? Now? Play some melody?

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Why should I tie all of these
vacancy and give a fir new life

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taking the shape of limitless blight,
A fly to run slow, oh sound,

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a pushing Paul, the papering off
affection, glyss sins through worried about

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recluse, or carry the fire in
the road so I can fly kite through.

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Humanity was a business taking turns for
a wetness to catch up mantista clean

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ukrind never on a shrug this tantness. I could you preach through my pounds,

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Ah, playback the smelody and climb
new heights away from the smellody or

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less givin a dry break for the
sipity or sherry shits. Bite A fly

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to run slow, a fly to
run slow, A fly to run slow,

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fly to run slow. I portrayed
something for you today, and I

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play some for melody. Where should
I tie all of these vacan season Let's

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give him try break forth the melody
of chowish shit spite, fly to run

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slow? Very nice, very nice. I like that a lot. I

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like that a lot. Adam Joscelyn
in the chat room, of course,

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from Abel Blood says, such a
unique voice. You do, a unique

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voice. Your your your vocal delivery
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it. Thank you? How I
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vocally that you kind of try to
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the way that you sing because it
is it is unique. Yeah, it's

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definitely a lot of the grunge nineties
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yeah, very cool. Now,
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are the two of you witch Trot? Or are there other members? Because

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I know I saw I saw at
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where it was just the two of
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the two of us. We've had
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bass for us for some shows.
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so but for right now, just
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now, how long have the two
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are you both original members of Witch
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the band for about four years now. Oh okay, so but no,

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Matt's been. Matt's had this thing
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something. Yeah, okay, okay. And then how did the two of

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you meet and come to work together
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was through a through a mutual acquaintance. The guitarist of a band I was

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formerly in called Marvel Prone. Oh, Marvel Prone. Wait a minute,

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have you been here before? I
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not? They have? I left
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I'm like, because you said that, I'm like, wait a minute,

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have we have we met before?
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the scene, it's like this,
it's a so many people move around in

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different bands. Okay, so you
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was in Marvel Prone, and I
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Prone and Matt met each other at
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he needed a drummer. So okay, put us in contact with each other.

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Oh cool? Cool? And then
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a bass player? Did you have
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a while? Yeah, yep,
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in the band? Two years?
Two years? Yeah? So now do

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so, but you guys do some
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if Megan's not available or how does
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that before. Yeah, because I'm
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pretty sure. I saw a YouTube
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uh, even even without a bass
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or maybe it was one of the
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like that happened once. It's kind
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play with the bass player is is
best practice? Yeah, but I think

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once in a pinch, we did
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there's others that have that have done

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it and and made it work,
but yeah, there's there's nothing quite like

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having, you know, you want
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if you can, you know,
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Boston years ago, and uh,
but it's obvious, you know, it

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was just the two guys, but
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name for the life of me.
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he had an effect that you know, gave him extra bottom end. And

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and I've I've I've seen bands do
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so, so how long has the
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said you've been you've been doing it
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before Edward Yeah, there were some
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that I had started up, but
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genres, but just different band names. And but I I separate which struck

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from that. Yeah, it's different. Yeah, Fredo is in the Facebook

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live chat. Uh. Yeah,
I was gonna say, you guys,

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bust Nolfredo everybody, all right.
I do enjoy I do, oh absolutely

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absolutely. Fredo has been on the
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enjoy saying his full name when I
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Enrique Benevitez. But yeah, Dank
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you know, and he posts a
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it's just such a such an enormously
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too. We gotta get him,
get him back on. Yeah, Ronda

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Ronda from our friend from California,
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Nirvana, So that makes sense.
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vocally or what about now? What
about on guitar? You ever take lessons

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or are you self taught? I
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taught. Wow, yeah that always. That always impresses me. How about

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you, Adward? On the drums, I had drum lessons for like two

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years, like the first year I
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years without. Yeah, then I
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playing for like eleven years, so
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Yeah, like like actually working on
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right, that's good. And are
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most drummers I meet are in like
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lot of drummers around. I've been
there, homie. Yeah, I'm currently

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in one other band, a metalcore
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the guitarist of Proelium, a dude
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Trot before I was Oh no kidding, yeah, oh wow. It's all

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so it's the music scene. It's
like incestuous in a way. Yeah,

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but not in that way, you
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we are in the Northeast after all, so but no, but yeah,

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so that's interesting. So the reason
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that is there's just been a trend
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and everybody's drummer is in like multiple
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that. I think it's because when
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interested in playing a musical instrument,
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talk with your parents like, hey, I want to take up an instrument.

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If you express an interest in the
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to try to talk you out of
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guitar or something, you know,
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a lot of noise. So so
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up with just not a lot of
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want their their kids growing up playing
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theory anyway, bass players tend to
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think drummers especially. Yeah, I
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drummers. I think for bass players. It's just because everybody wants to play

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guitar. Guitarists get the glory.
Yeah, yeah, you know most bands

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have a guitarist playing bass really right. Well, it's funny because I so,

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I'm a bass player, but I
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a kid. I took guitar lessons
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I took guitar lessons. But unfortunately, I was one of those kind of

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lazy kids that if I wasn't good
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discouraged. And so I was getting
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putting the work in to really practice
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high school, I picked up a
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with some friends playing music. And
bass players hate when I say this,

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but it's it's just the reality of
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and I said, oh, too
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any chords. I think I found
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I mean it worked out. I
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in a bunch of bands and and
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but it kind of sucks that it
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was out of my own laziness.
But it's true though, And bass players

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hate when I say that because it, you know, it makes it sound

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like, oh, the bass is
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to play the bass really well.
But if you just want to be you

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know what I always say. I
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good enough. And bass players being
in not as high demand as drummers,

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but in sort of high demand,
you know, you end up playing,

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you can you can be just okay
and end up in a bunch I was

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in a bunch of different bands at
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drummers, I mean so many drummers
who were just in just in tons of

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bands. Uh So maybe we should
maybe we should talk about this more after

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we play the single. But I
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in terms of influences that word I
when I was listening to the you know,

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because Matt sent me the single earlier
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couple of minutes. Well, first
of all, overall, I got kind

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of a Sabbath vibe from it,
and I definitely got a bill Ward vibe

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from your drumming, and I'm curious
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a that's an interesting question. I
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remind me a lot of Bill Ward, and he's one of my favorites.

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So it's you know, it's please
take it as a compliment. Oh,

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I absolutely do. I love Black
Sabbath, Yeah, always have. I

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don't consider Bill Ward specifically an influence, but I do consider that kind of

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music and Black Sabbath's contemporaries to be
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absolutely, Well what are tell me
about? Who are some of your influences?

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Really? I'm just a sucker for
all of the great prog rock drummers.

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Yeah, Neil Peart, Phil Collins, Uh, those are probably the

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biggest two. Who else? I
always my head always goes blank when people

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ask me things like that. Yeah, that's okay, that's all right.

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It kind of puts it on the
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me though, because I don't know, I never really hear anyone say so

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is Phil Collins? I know this
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online in some forums. Is Phil
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Phil Collins is the man, no
kidding, But you have to listen

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to the early Genesis albums to figure
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He has, like a jazz fusion
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from. Yeah, but honestly,
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you would probably dig Phil collins drumming
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a very similar, loose, jazzy, feely style, if you know what

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I mean. It's not rigid at
all. He's very much just like sinking

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in to the music. See that
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Genesis stuff that came out later,
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But but I have but I have
heard some early Genesis with when Peter

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Gabriel was singing, and now that
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was different. I know what you
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back and listen to some of that. Yeah, you're getting some support on

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that in the chat room up.
DJ Midas says Phil Collins is a phenomenal

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drummer. Malcolm Salz says any Genesis
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incredible. That's a great way of
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Phil's got a great voice. But
I but I understand. I understand

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what he means, because that makes
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before Phil took over on vocals,
and Fredo says, uh, brand X.

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Actually, let me read these in
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a masterful drummer. Check out his
fusion band. His fusion band brand X.

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Brand X is Phil Collins displaying his
jazz prowess and crazy Prague chops.

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Interesting. Interesting. Oh, and
Malcolm had said earlier Phil Collins and early

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Genesis is some of the best Prague
you will ever hear. Interesting. Yeah,

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I'll have to I'll have to go
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Okay, Yeah, it's coincidentally several
months ago I happened to hear I cannot

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even remember what album it's on.
It was on one of their really commercially

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successful albums, Genesis, with Phil
on lead vocals. But the song is

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Domino. Did you know that song? I do not know that song.

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Yeah, it's it's from It's It's
again. It's from their really commercial period.

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But but I just remember listening to
that song and I'm listening to the

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drum track and I'm thinking, you
know, this, this song would be

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so much better if the drums weren't
so you know, they sound it sounded

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like programmed drums. I don't know
if it was actually him playing or if

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it was all programmed, but I
remember thinking, this song would be so

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cool if you know, it was
Phil Collins without drumming, without all the

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effects and everything. But it was, you know, it was like the

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mid nineteen eighties. You know,
I lived through it. It was.

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Everything was very sort of overproduced in
that way. But I'll have to go

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back and listen to some early Phil
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and I'll have to check out Brand
I didn't even know about Brand X,

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so that must have been the band
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or I don't really know. There
might have been some overlap. Yeah,

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yeah, interesting, No, I'm
very curious. Now, Now how about

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you? How about you, Matt
in terms of influences, I mean,

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we talked a little bit about your
vocals, but how about guitar or just

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the overall vibe? Like I said, I get a heavy Sabbath vibe from

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from Witch Trot. Yeah, I
really like the Melvins. I can hear

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it. Yeah, I like Wudini. That's probably my favorite from them.

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Stoner which is another one I really
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is one of my favorite albums.
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well. Sleep is a cool band. Electric Wizard a lot of that doomy

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type rock and as well as the
grunge stuff I've always been a fan of.

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Yeah, yeah, Oh, Fredo
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Collins, he didn't need to,
he didn't need to give us his all

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on the Tarzan soundtrack, but he
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I remember when that came out,
and I remember kind of thinking,

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yeah, he's definitely entered his Uh, he's moved from his rock face to

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his adult contemporary face. Actually he
had probably done that long before that.

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But yeah, I understood. He
can't even he can't even really it's hard

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for him to stand up now.
Phil Collins, like you see you see

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any videos from that last from the
Genesis Farewell tour, It's kind of it's

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kind of heartbreaking. Feel bad for
him, you know, although miraculously his

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voice is still sounds pretty good.
Oh, his voice is great. Yeah,

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absolutely, Yeah, it's just a
poor guy. He can't it's hard

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for him to move around. And
you know, but drums is such a

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physical instrument too that you know,
if there's anything you're going to get injured

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playing, it's that. I suppose. Well, we should get to this

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track since we've been talking about how
you guys sound. Now again, is

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this no no Mos Thomas? Is
that how you pronounce it? Yes?

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Okay, Now what does that mean? No more Thomas? So I have

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a friend named Thomas, and he's
I can tell it's this will be a

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good story by Edwards reaction. Well, he he's very unpredictable and like he's

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always he always does very like wild
things, like I've always and like he's

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younger than me, so I've always
kind of been like I've acted like the

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older brother in some ways. I'm
always like Thomas, no, don't do

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that, especially in public, or
he's gonna watch this and be like right.

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But yeah, so yeah, that's
that's why I called it no More

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Thomas. And I've told him that
and he thinks it's pretty cool. That's

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cool. I thought maybe it was
Latin or something that I saw it.

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Very cool. All right, let's
give this a listen. Where was this

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recorded, by the way, Alfa
Omega Studios. And where is that that's

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in Massachusetts? Some town in Massachusetts
I've never heard of before. Okay,

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all right, cool, let's give
this a listen and then we'll come back

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and we'll talk some more with these
guys. Check this out. This is

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witch Trot. This is brand new, newly remastered and world radio premiere.

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Boss spouts outs sss ss s by
Heaven, why your pass away? The

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new ass came fast and sacrifice,
surpass the holy exercise, please the Holy

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One? Who will we drop from
the darks? S s s s s

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s ses. Oh that is so
good. No, miss Thomas, am

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I saying that right? Matts No
Moss Thomas, Yes, from the band

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witch Trot, And we have Matt
and Edward from the band here with us

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live in studio. That is the
world radio premiere of that track. And

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I love it. You know what's
cool? Is it? Kind of the

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song fools you. I'm sure I'm
not the only one who's made this observation,

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but when I was listening to it
for the first time, I was

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like, Oh, it's an instrumental, and then the vocal finally shows up,

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but it's so far into the song, but it's like a cool surprise

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when the vocal comes in. I
was like, Oh, it's not an

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instrumental. I like that. Like, did you do that intentionally or is

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that just kind of how the song
developed? That was actually done intentionally.

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A lot of the stoner rock doomy
stuff band Sleep does that a lot.

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They'll have a lot of instrumentals and
then they'll sing, and then they'll stop

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and do a lot of long instrumentals
and then continue back into singing. Yeah,

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yeah, no, I like that. It's cool. It's kind of

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a cool twist. Yeah. Fredo
in the chat room says long intro.

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Fredo also said too earlier, you
know, the Melvins came up as an

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influence, and Fredo said, up, Melvins are one of the most influential

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badass bands ever. They did more
for grunge, sludge and underground music in

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general than any of their contemporaries.
Yeah, definitely, the Melvin's very,

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very influential but kind of unsung heroes, and you know, one of those

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bands that you know, musicians know
the Melvins, but non musicians never even

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heard of them. This is one
of those kinds of bands. Yeah,

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so we've got the guys here from
witch Trot. By the way, so

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where does the name come from?
Witch Trot? I assume you came up

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with that, Matt, because you're
the like the original, the founding member.

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Yeah. Yeah, Well there's several
witch Trot roads in Maine. I

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noticed that. I noticed that when
I googled you guys, and I was

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like, oh, this is a
common thing in Maine. Yeah. Yeah,

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And well the name came about was
Maine was part of Massachusetts during the

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Salem Witch Trials, and they brought
down a preacher or parson from Maine,

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and the road is called witch Trot
Road. That was trotting down, which

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which is on horseback. They would
commonly do that and and pick that name

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because it was it signified like judgment
and symbolized the road to judgment when those

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witches were crossing over. Yeah,
yeah, I thought that was cool.

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Yeah, no, it's a cool
name. Now, how many songs have

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you Is this the only Is this
the first song that you've done in that

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studio in North Reading or do you
have others that you're working on or we

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would like to go back soon.
We have two other ones I played.

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Parallax was one of them, and
I played the acoustic version of that.

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Yeah, we have a song called
Hello Dmitri that that's also was recorded at

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Alpha Omega. Oh okay, Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna sorry, we're

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going to release those hopefully tonight or
tomorrow. Oh okay, yeah, oh

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okay, Yeah, I'd love to
hear Hello Dmitri. So that'll be so

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at some point this weekend, that'll
be available, yes, online. Very

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cool, Very cool. And what's
the writing process like, do you guys

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write together or do you come up
with the ideas initially and then bring them

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netword or how does that work?
It's sort of they always originate with Matt.

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You know, I like to consider
myself a valuable part of the band,

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but it's always been Matt's songs that
we're playing. Yeah. He sometimes

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he comes at me or me and
whoever former basis was in the band at

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the time with a completed idea,
but usually it's just like, you know,

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an intro of verse and a chorus
and we jam on it. For

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a while, someone might make a
few suggestions. They come together very organically

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and as a consequence, somewhat inefficiently. Sometimes it kind of takes a while

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for them to reach their final form. Really, yeah, like how long,

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like, uh to develop a song
does it take? Does it take

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days? Weeks? A couple practices? Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah

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yeah, Because Edward, what what
you're doing on the drums that that that

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winds up becoming you know, even
if the idea doesn't start with you,

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I mean you you are really kind
of contributing to how the song forms because

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your drum patterns are complex and you
know it's it's not it's not like you

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know, you're not the guy from
ac DC sitting over there. You're actually

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really you know, not nothing against
a c DC, but you're really you

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know, you're really helping to form
and shape that song with what you're doing

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on the drums. Yeah, so
I sceer them, you could say.

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Sometimes sometimes it's something as simple as
like a bro, what if we like

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this right? But as being humble, But like for especially Nomas Tomas,

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that song, the breakdown at the
end, that wouldn't have happened, you

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know, without the drums. A
lot of the drum Definitely, the drums

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carry like all the songs. Yeah, it's just you know, I have

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a rough draft really and then it
forms something. Yeah, I wouldn't have

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expected right right now now in studio. Now, who's playing bass in studio?

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Are you doing that yourself? Or
is Megan doing that? Or who's

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our friend? Tony Woodman played bass
on that actually? Oh okay, Yeah,

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he has a band, Black head
Dress. I drummed for for that

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band and he helped us out a
lot. See. Now that's a twist

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on this whole drummer thing. So
there's this other band that you play drums

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in. See is it? What's
your first instrument? Is drums your first

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instrument? Or or is a guitar? It was? It was drums was

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the first thing I learned. I
gradually went to guitar and I've been playing

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that. That's kind of like my
main instrument. Oh I gotcha, I

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got you a Black head Dress.
That's the other band. Yeah, it's

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a cool name. From around here? Is is everybody from around here?

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Yeah? There, Tony's from and
then Josh is from he's the guitarist and

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the band he's from Alfred and then
so it's kind of kind of all over

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the place. Alfred, where's that
It's it's in New Hampshire or no,

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sorry, Maine, it's in Maine. Oh, it's in Maine. Yeah.

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And I know Sandford's in Maine.
Yes. Yeah. The only reason

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I know that is because that's where
I almost round when I was a kid.

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My dad had to save me.
So the Sandford, Maine is uh

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is forever etched in my brain.
So you're now you live here now,

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but you're from Maine originally? Is
that York Maine? You're from York.

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Okay, that's a nice area.
Yeah. Now about you, Edward,

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Do you live in the area here
or or do you have a commute?

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I live in Rochester currently. Okay. I grew up in Portsmouth. That's

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where I was living when I joined
the band. Oh okay, yeah yeah,

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So you guys got a little bit
of a commute between you. It's

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half an hour. It's not bad, it's not bad. Yeah. Yeah.

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Now are you playing a lot of
shows? Do you play a lot

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of shows or are you focused on
recording or I have a couple of shows

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coming up. We have a house
party on the twenty eighth, and then

406
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we're playing at the Stone Church on
Halloween. Oh, very cool. Yeah,

407
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:12,440
we're playing. We're playing with Proelium, they're headlining. Yeah. Yeah,

408
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,239
it's gonna be Prollium headlining witch Trot
before them, and then a band

409
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,199
called green Eye before witch Trot.
Yeah. And does one of you play

410
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:30,360
drums and green Eyes? No,
we've reached the limit. Okay, understood.

411
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaking of drums, I wanted to
mention something. Yeah, a lot

412
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,519
of the older Witch Trot songs,
like from when I first joined the band,

413
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:46,840
I actually learned from demos that Matt
posted on YouTube again when he was

414
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like when he was like seventeen or
so, and on all those demos he's

415
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:55,719
playing drums. Oh wow, So
the way I played drums in the band

416
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:06,880
was influenced by what Matt played oh
way back in the day. Interesting,

417
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:09,719
So it kind of like it's sort
of like a it comes full circle.

418
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:15,639
Yeah, so you you committed to
learning, but do you play the parts

419
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,199
now the same as when Matt put
them in those demos originally? Or do

420
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,800
you or do you even still play
those songs because obviously those songs go backways,

421
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:30,199
some of them we do it kind
of it depends on the songs.

422
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:35,519
Sometimes. I sometimes I liked what
he played and and I would more or

423
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,960
less stick to that and if anything
changed, it would again change like subconsciously

424
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,400
and organically over time. Yeah.
Other other things, it was more of

425
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,039
a like, hey, I have
an idea for how else this could be

426
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:52,159
done? Right? Yeah, makes
sense. But I definitely think, even

427
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:59,320
even if the parts themselves have changed, the way Matt plays drums influenced how

428
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,440
I choose to play drums in the
band. Now, okay, okay,

429
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:13,000
interesting, So are your styles now
today on drums somewhat different then or or

430
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:15,519
are they similar very much? So
we're completely different drummers? Really? Yeah?

431
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,480
Yeah, in in one way,
I mean, because I kind of

432
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:22,280
have a vibe of how you play
obviously from listening to that track, But

433
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:29,760
like, what, how how are
your drums different, Matt? If it's

434
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,400
something you can put into words,
maybe it's not the easiest thing to verbalize,

435
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,320
but I'm curious now. Uh.
Well, with Black Head Dress,

436
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,639
a lot of the songs are kind
of tribal, like, lot of a

437
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:50,280
lot of toms. It's pretty heavy
on that rather than a lot of a

438
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,039
lot of crashes or fills or it's
just kind of sets the tone for because

439
00:37:55,079 --> 00:38:00,440
I follow, Like with Black head
Dress, I follow Tony and John quite

440
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,119
a bit. I just go back
and forth, and they're really the ones

441
00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:07,599
who are setting up the structure and
IM and I'm yeah, it's just kind

442
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:10,800
of tribal like, I mean,
that's kind of how the songs felt.

443
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:16,519
Yeah, no, that makes sense. Yeah. I was actually just looking

444
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:22,320
up Black head Dress online and maybe
we'll maybe to end the show, we'll

445
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:30,320
play Do these have swears in them? Honestly, it depends on the song

446
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,079
like Disconnected that shows up on the
website. Do you know? If you

447
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:37,320
don't know, we just won't risk
it. But I was just thinking if

448
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,719
if you did know, we could
play something, because I'm curious to hear

449
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,000
hear it now, But if not, I'll just wait till later and we

450
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:47,239
won't risk it. I can't remember, honestly. Yeah, No, that's

451
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,880
fine. That's all good. By
the way, Melanie in the chat room

452
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:59,400
says high five for not being a
part of Massachusetts anymore. Now, if

453
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,800
you guys, obviously you you play
shows around here. Have you have you

454
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,239
toured anywhere outside of the area.
No, we've never been on tour.

455
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,559
Okay, We've played mass a little
bit, New Hampshire, a little bit,

456
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:14,159
Maine a little bit. Yeah,
but I think that's it. Okay,

457
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,400
yeah, okay. And are there
are there any other bands in the

458
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,320
area that you kind of team up
with? You know, I mean it

459
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,239
tends to happen organically, kind of
by accident, you know, bands will

460
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:25,679
have other bands that they wind up
playing a lot of shows with. Did

461
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,559
you have anybody in the area like
that? Oh? Yeah, well Wired

462
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:35,079
for Sound Yeah, yeah. I
played with Marvel Prone a few times back

463
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:38,679
when I was in that band,
played a few shows with Preellium. We're

464
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:45,880
about to play another show with Proelium. Yeah. Who else? Who are

465
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,559
like some of the Charlie's Hill bands
We played with Sauce on the side I

466
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,639
was one. Oh we had them
on the show. Yeah, yeah,

467
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:57,800
they're they're fantastic, Yeah they are. Yeah, they're great. Able Blood

468
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,280
of course, able Blood, love
able Blood. We had them on the

469
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,559
show. We have sophisticated adult martial
law. And there's a lot of I

470
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:09,679
found that in the more of the
Seacoast area. There's a lot of more

471
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:15,440
metal type bands, hard rock band, yeah, like metal core type bands.

472
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,400
Yeah. And yeah, so we
kind of get placed in in those

473
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,639
types of shows, which is a
lot of fun, a lot of the

474
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,119
mosh pits and whatnot. Yeah,
no, no doubt, no doubt.

475
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,519
And uh so this h this weekend
is a Stone Church? Is that this

476
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:34,239
weekend or next weekend? That's Halloween
Night? Halloween Night. Yeah, that's

477
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,440
very cool. That's a good that's
really good. I haven't been to the

478
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,480
Stone Church in forever, but that's
a really nice that's a nice place to

479
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:45,280
play. They're actually a not normally
open on Tuesdays, but Halloween is a

480
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,800
Tuesday this year. Yeah, and
so they figured they'd throw a little shin

481
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,599
dig. It's gonna be a full
on costume party. Three bands, good

482
00:40:53,639 --> 00:41:00,159
fun, very cool if anyone's interested, Witch Front, Prelium and not in

483
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:06,719
that order. Yeah, the Stone
Church Halloween Night, come in costumes,

484
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,840
seven pm. Yeah, very cool, very cool. Well, listen,

485
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,079
we're going to uh oh we have
a call. Oh looks like this is

486
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:19,519
uh Malcolm Souls who we saw in
the Facebook live chat. Hi, welcome

487
00:41:19,559 --> 00:41:24,119
to the show. Hey man,
it's Malcolm from Abel Blood. Hey Malcolm.

488
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:30,119
Oh that Malcolm. Hey what's up
man? I just want I just

489
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,960
want to chime in here and tell
you that these guys are like they're like

490
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:37,800
having a reaction video at your show, because every show we play with them,

491
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,400
we always like to watch people milling
about before they start. Yeah,

492
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,800
and as soon as they start playing, everything stops and everybody's like, holy

493
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:52,159
crap, who are these guys?
I believe it. That's awesome, very

494
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:55,280
cool, very cool. Yeah,
they make a lot of noise for well,

495
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,920
three piece technically right when you've got
when you've got a bass player with

496
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,440
you. But yeah, that's cool, have you well, yeah, go

497
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,880
ahead, Malcolm. I was gonna
say they can reach out to Adam and

498
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,559
I because we have bass issues too, so we're splitting based duty now.

499
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:15,119
Oh that's right, that's right.
Yeah, that's right. We talked about

500
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:16,760
that when you guys were here.
I forgot about that. You're you're one

501
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,480
of the bands I was I was
thinking of earlier when we were talking about

502
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:23,119
the bass thing. Yeah, that's
funny. That's why I called it,

503
00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:28,880
just to remind you. Yeah,
hey, I still play uh geez,

504
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,519
maybe I'll play it at the end
of the show today. I want to

505
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:31,800
have time to play the whole thing. But mental note, man, that

506
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,159
always goes over a big one I
play that on the show. People go

507
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,280
crazy for that in the chat room. Awesome. So glad to hear,

508
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,639
so glad to hear. But I
gotta I got to run because I have

509
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,440
my daughter with me. Thank you, Malcolm. Yeah, I love you

510
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,480
guys. Can't wait to do a
show again soon. All right, Malcolm,

511
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:53,719
thank you for the call, my
friend, Take care you bet guys.

512
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:58,840
All right, by all right Malcolm
from Abled Blood. Very cool,

513
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,119
very cool, such a great band. And well, listen, guys,

514
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:04,119
we got to wrap up in a
moment. Where should people go online?

515
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:06,880
What's the best way to go online
to find you guys? Just Google?

516
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:09,800
Because if you google Witch Trot,
I guess Witch Trot band, right,

517
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:15,079
because otherwise all those roads come up
in Maine. Yeah? Yeah, on

518
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:22,800
YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Yeah
soon, every screaming platform that matters.

519
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:28,639
Yes, yes, yes, And
the new single comes out this weekend.

520
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:32,519
What's it called again? Yes?
Parallax okay, yeah, and then followed

521
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:37,519
by shortly no Mas Tomas and hello
Dmitri very cool, all right, hello

522
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:39,920
Dmitri. That was the other one. Yeah, thank you for playing live

523
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,719
for us. That was phenomenal man. All right, Matt and Edward,

524
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:49,239
thank you guys, so much witch
Trot and good luck with the Halloween show.

525
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,039
That's amazing. Good for you guys, and I really appreciate your coming

526
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,599
in today. Malcolm. If you're
still listening, here's a little bit of

527
00:43:54,639 --> 00:43:57,440
able blood for you. Mental note.
