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Good evening and welcome back to play
Blurry form. I am your host,

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Bashar now muste and once again we'll
be reading your letters and your concerned trying

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to get you in touch with you
and putting yourself on the most auspicious life

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path we can. All right,
First off, we've got a letter from

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someone in New York. Dear playblurry
for him. I've been dating this girl

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for about three weeks now. Things
are going great. I think she's a

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very lovely person. She's beautiful,
she's smart, she's funny, she gets

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me. But something's been happening.
Last night was the third instance of it,

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and I just have to talk to
someone about it. I awoke in

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the middle of the night unable to
breathe, and when I opened my eyes,

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my girlfriend was perched right upon my
chest. It was an enormous amount

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of weight and I was terrified.
I couldn't move, I couldn't breathe,

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and I basically passed out from the
terror. When I woke up the next

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day, I tried to ask her
about it, and she had no idea

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what I was talking about. But
I'm left wondering, am I dating an

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old hag? Sincerely, Breathless in
Buffalo. Oh my goodness. Well,

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first, I would like to thank
you, Breathless and Buffalo, for for

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sharing that. I understand that there's
a lot of pain and a lot of

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confusion, and I'm feeling that,
and I respect that. First of all,

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communication is the center of any relationship. And if you're trying to build

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bridges and she's constantly putting that no
crossing barrier down, at that point,

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you need to get in your honesty
truck and floor it as fast as you

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can straight at that barrier, putting
a brick on the accelerator, then rolling

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out of the car to safety while
it heads towards the gas truck of her

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emotional center. In the ensuing fireball, both of you will be basking in

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the glowing warmth of an open and
communicative relationship. I so hope that does

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help you out, Breathless and Buffalo. Our next letter comes to us from

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a longtime listener in Kentucky. I
apply a blurry farm. I got this

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problem where these kids are coming over
in the middle of the night. I

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think they're the neighbors kids. They're
coming over and they're looking in our windows

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and they're playing in the bushes or
some ship. Well, I tried going

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out there and hollering at them and
tell them get out of here, and

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they won't leave. And I know
they're kids because they're only about three foot

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tall and they're hiding in the bushes
and they're climbing up on our tin roof.

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I can hear them running around.
Well, I'll tell you what we

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did, what any sane person would
do. We shot at them. Motherfucker's

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their bulletproof or something, because they
just they spun away, laughing, and

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they came on back. It was
all night. We stayed up all damn

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night trying to get these kids to
leave us the hell alone. Finally they

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run off when we called the cops
in on them. Anyway, long story

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short, how do I talk to
the neighbors tell them to get their damn

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kids off our property and stop bothering
us at night? I plumb out of

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options here. I've tried hollering,
I tried shooting. Now what else am

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I supposed to do? If a
gun can't fix it, I don't know

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what can Can you help me out? Harassed in Hopkinsville? Yes, I

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can feel your frustration and your anger. It's certainly disturbing to have one's own

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sanctum violated by either children or potentially
goblins when shouted obscenities. And twenty odd

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buckshot fail, what are we left
with at this point? I'll take a

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cue from my friends the cetaceans.
Have you considered focusing your chakras and your

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own internal emotional and psychic energy into
a high frequency beam that would be able

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to directly connect with their mind?
Perhaps using this you can communicate above the

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ethereal plane, allowing direct emotional contact
with no need for body armor or evasive

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action. Once this link has been
established and you become one soul with your

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neighbor's children, might I suggest that
you invite them to your home that they

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may explore it with your blessing and
permission, and maybe both of you can

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enjoy a fun evening on the roof. I sure hope this helps. Now

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I must stay harassed in Hopkinsville.
Thank you all for all of your letters,

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and we do try to reply to
each and every one of them.

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Once again for Playblurry for him,
I've been your host the Shire. No

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must stay. I wonder when they're
gonna respond to my letter, but sure,

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if you're listening. I've got to
I've got some questions, bro,

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Yeah, can you help me out? Man? I keep trying to hitting

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on all these dolphins and they're all
like and then they swim away, man,

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And I'm like, I just came
to party, y'all. Hey,

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man, what's wrong all their dolphins? I try and hollered at him.

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Oh hey, everybody, I'm David
Florida. I'm David Stecko. Oh,

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welcome to blurry photos, and welcome
to an entirely new year. Oh my

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gosh. Yeah, and you're fourteen. That's right. Seen has happened.

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It has and good news. Um, I think from an apocryphal end of

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Days perspective, a fairly uneventful year, it's anticipated. I don't think there

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should be any major eschatological calamities.
Very good. You might need an MS

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paint TOOFICOD for that one that I
will give to myself never sorry, great

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cat. Uh yeah, yeah,
I don't think there is. And you

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know what I mean, We've we've
escaped twenty thirteen unscathed. And that's the

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year where if somebody forgot to carry
the one right, that's when it would

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have happened. That was the emergency
backup plan for all the people who were

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not willing to say they were wrong
the first time. Yeah, so you've

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you've run out of options, and
now you just have to go ask for

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your old job back exactly. That
elaborate I quit song you wrote doesn't seem

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like such a good idea now,
No, but you can send it to

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us. We'll sing it, Yeah, we will. It's twenty fourteen.

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They nothing can touch us. Who
twenty fourteen year if we don't give them,

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Well, we're sixteen episodes into the
year twenty fourteen. Let's take a

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look at the foksgiven count and it
stands at a resolute zero. Wait wait,

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no zero. Can't wait for the
new holiday this year? Foksgiving?

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Oh man, man, we're starting
twenty fourteen off right, Yeah we are,

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Yeah, we are nothing but be
soll year long. That's right.

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Um. A couple of quick questions
for you, our listeners. Did anybody

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try my new holiday? Yeah?
I'm curious as well. I mean I

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don't I don't need a playblurry forum
letter. No, but um, I

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just would like a simple show of
hands because I think it's a really good

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idea. Did anybody think of a
word for it? Anybody think any anything

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for a good name could be Yeah, oh god, I can't heer a

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reward because I break my problems.
But I really would love a really good

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name for my um Winter Solstice you
will sex holiday. But I'm really trying

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to get off the ground. And
guys, I mean, it's not just

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me, it's all of us.
We're a community, we're a team,

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and my goals are noble. Did
you do anything for it? No,

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I'm perpetually single, so no,
That's that's what makes it such a magnanimous

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act on my part. I'm doing
it for everyone else. If if you're

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single on it, it's the best
night because you just you've an order in

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pizza and you play video games all
night. I mean, you can do

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that any night. This is a
holiday devoted to you. About it?

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Okay, all right, I'll take
that. I mean, I I flew

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home for Christmas on the Solstice,
so that would have been it's hard hard

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to play seex holiday. Yeah,
well at an airport, or maybe it's

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easier. I don't know. I
was with the gef's family, so oh,

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so it was a little hard to
have a sexy Yule time in the

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in in your girlfriend's parents' home,
right, don't blame me for that.

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That's that's a that's a tough one, and that I think that there's always

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going to be some scheduling problems.
But I don't set the calendar. I

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don't set which night is the longest
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But I think that I'm gonna I'm
not giving up on this. I

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will mention this the entire year,
Okay, and uh, I'm gonna do

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my damnedest to have a situation where
in I can personally partake of the Yule

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sex Holiday twenty fourteen. Whatever that
turns out to be. Sounds good.

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Sounds good. Also, both of
our parents listen to this, So sorry

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about that, but it's just what
I'm trying to do. We're adults,

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Yeah, at this whole podcast is
a seriously adult situation. I don't think

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you know who you're dealing, Cereal, right now, it's right, get

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off me. Oh man. So
okay, that's the future. Let's talk

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about the present. Let's talk about
it. We are starting the new year

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off with I would say the most
requested yea subject matter to cover. Yeah,

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in blurry photos history, it is. This is the most requested topic,

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and we've been really enjoying getting into
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First of all, it's nice to
come back and record again because, as

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we made very clear, we had
to precan a couple of episodes for the

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holiday, and well, Flora,
it's just so good to see you again.

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This one. This one's fun.
And it's funny because I've asked some

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people if they've heard of this subject
before, and nobody that I've asked has

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ever heard of it. Yet we're
still getting all these requests. It's you

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know what it is. It's like
this is like a cryptid meets folklore meets

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Reddit. Yeah, it's like it's
like it's for the Internet at savvy,

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for the people who like their their
minger and yes that's how it's pronounced on

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this podcast. People who love their
Reddit. This is a This is a

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well known quantity, but for people
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what nine million people who use Reddit
every day? How many? Yeah,

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it's up there. I don't understand
Reddit, so I don't use it.

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It's confusing. I just like Imer
because it's pictures and kiddies. Yeah,

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yeah, a little too much.
Emma Watson for my taste. I'm just

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I'm too old for that. I
can't meet. I don't find her that

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attractive. I mean, listen,
I mean you know what though, maybe

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if I was fifteen years younger,
I don't know, but it just it

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seems pervy no matter what. But
hey, I'm not here to tell Reddit

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or imminger what to do with their
lives. Yeah, the moral, the

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story is what we're talking about tonight
is Flora, the slender Man, Slendermann.

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What is that a slenderment overay?
Hey, hey mister no face,

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but the nice suit. Slenderman.
Come over here? Have you eaten you?

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Look? You look skinny? Come
in, slender Man. Slender Man's

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coming to get you, he might
be. It's freaky, this thing,

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this thing toes the line. Also, I think to add to the list

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that you threw out there, toes
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my mind and the black eyed kids. Yes, yeah, it's this this

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unknown entity. No one knows where
he comes from, where he's going to,

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what his agenda is. But he
needs people. Yeah yeah, and

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people who need people are the creepiest
people of all. So about that Yule

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holiday, Yeah, so we're going
to talk about who or what is Slenderman.

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I'm gonna talk about where he came
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real. Yeah, this is cool. This is this is modern folklore.

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This is this is We're getting in
much like my sex holiday. We're getting

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in on the ground floor of something. This is something that has popped up

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within our lifetimes very very much.
Actually was in the last five years.

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Yeah, jeez man, and now
it's something that we have to deal with.

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We've we've created another reason to be
afraid of the outside. Yep,

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yep, yep, another reason to
just stay at home with our podcast.

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Another problem that neither shouting nor guns
can solve. Hollering, holleran. So

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let's tell you a little bit about
this. Uh, this old son of

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a bitch. So the slender Man, I forgive me, but I'm gonna

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say Slenderman the whole way thing too. I am Spiderman, Slenderman. The

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Slenderman is h He's a tall and
when I say tall, I mean around

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between seven and fifteen feet tall.
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tall one might have been two of
them in a hilariously gigantic overcoat or perhaps

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a doctor's coat. It happens,
dude. So they're they're very thin humanoids,

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humanoids. I guess there's just one, right, there's just a slenderman.

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I think there is a slender man. You never even no one's ever

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seen more than one at a time, right, right, So okay,

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so slender man, very thin humanoid. Where's a black suit, very stylish

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with a white button up shirt,
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grayish whitish head and a no face, natureless face. It's zero face,

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the goose egg face, dude,
goose egg it's the I mean, there's

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an approximation. There's sort of in
all the photos and everything I've seen,

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there's there's the hint of features.
There's a sinking kind of where eyes should

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be. There's there's maybe some cheek
bone, cheek bone, there's sort of

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a not like there's not like a
nose sticking out, but there's kind of

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like a hollow underneath, you know, like there's there's these hints of a

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skull underneath it. R right.
Many descriptions of it include it having unnaturally

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long arms which he can lengthen or
shorten at will, and also tentacle like

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appendages which protrude from his back.
Yeah, that's that was the thing that

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surprised me, is that there is
My my cursory just standing knowledge of of

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of the Slenderman was that it was
just a creepy, tall, thin person

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in a suit with like, you
know, abnormally long limbs and like hands

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down past the knees kind of right. But the additional I was surprised at

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how common that is of these additional
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tentacle sort of things that seemed to
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the shoulder, almost almost where where
you would put like a wing on an

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angel. There's these these additional couple
come over the shoulders, couple come under

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the armpits kind of thing. Yeah, now you just started playing Marvel Lego.

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I sure, dad, I have
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I got it for Christmas. I'm
a grown man. I got a

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video game, and I couldn't be
happier. I couldn't wait, so I

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bought it earlier. Ladies, it's
it's not too soon to start your planning

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for next year's le holidays. Oh
I forgot. I forgot about that.

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That potential name Hard to put that
on a card. Hey, mary Fish.

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The point I'm trying to make is
you'll get there, but you can

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unlock Venom in the go. Oh
yeah, and he's got a similar thing

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going there. Yeah. The character
in the game has these tentacles coming out

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of his back. Also Carnage,
also Superior Spider Man. But you'll just

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blew you just you just blew my
mind. You'll get there, tentacles out

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of the back. That's all the
point that I'm making, all right.

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So in stories he's been implicated and
causing paranoia, memory loss, insomnia,

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and even I saw coughing fits.
M m yeah, I see nausea,

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nausea, yeah, I mean yeah, all kinds of of weird maladies.

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Little moth Man in there, little
moth manish, yeah, moth mannerisms,

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points on the board, damn it. Twenty fourteen, starting right. One

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way to tell if he's around is
if your electronic equipment begins to malfunction.

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Oh man, how many times do
we hear that They're like the paranormal is

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the enemy of the iPad. Yeah, yeah, like you can't you can't

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have electromagnetic stuff. I think is
is a cop out because I don't think

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people understand it that well. Yeah, technology and bigfoots don't mix except for

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EVPs. EVPs, yeah, cross
okay, but maybe we can choose,

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Bro, he can choose. I
know, what's it gonna be, Bro,

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you can do this a normal bible. Is that what you got going?

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He also has they to teleport at
will now there. Now, I

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don't know what you saw. I
didn't see any evidence or any accounts of

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anyone actually seeing him like move like
he he doesn't stride, he doesn't walk

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around. I've seen him. I've
seen him turn. I've seen yeah,

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like a head turn, Yeah,
things like that. But you don't you

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never see him move his body anywhere. If if you go with some of

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the stories not to not to dip
into the pool here too early before it's

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more no, no, no,
not too soon you do. There is

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one out there where there's a bit
of that of long striding movements akin to

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really thin trees that are blowing in
the wind kind of thing, still walking

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kind of a sort of yeah,
or like a bindy tree like willowy.

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we don't have the clarence for you. But yeah, the teleportation one thing.

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And because this is such a an
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a a Reddit anger sort of thing. I'm very often reminded of the Weeping

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Angels from Doctor Who, which it's
just another thing that that inger and Reddit

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worship as though it were a god. It is Doctor Who, and rightfully

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so it's a great show. But
this is this is a long standing obsession

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with this group of people, and
so I don't think it's I don't think

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it's an accident that the single most
popular episode of Doctor Who, of the

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new runs of all Doctor Who,
sure, I mean, um, the

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one that people were most impressed by, the one that people most like to

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discuss. Suddenly, in the same
time frame that this comes around, there's

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this this new thing that it kind
of has one of that thing's powers,

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you know, blink, Yeah,
that's it exactly. So yeah, you

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you you look away from the Slenderman
and when you turn around, he's like

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ten fe sir, yep. That
I don't know. I mean, maybe

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that's nothing, maybe that's something.
But in my mind when I when I

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did my research, I was like, man, this is this is real

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Weeping Angels stuff. Yeah, And
and right around that time frame. You're

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right, Yeah, Oh my god, did I just blow the lid off

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and just blew it off? I'm
sorry, but you're welcome to Dave's Deco.

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Here. Now, I need to
I need to sell you some water

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purification tablets because the government's gonna try
to steal your computer. Obamacare will require

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three quarts of your blood and you
need to purify that water. In the

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meantime, colloidal silver. There's the
wave of the future. So yeah,

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this teleportability just yeah, it's exactly
like like you were saying, you see

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him from afar, you'll look away, you'll look back. He's ten feet

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closer. You look away, you
look back, he's in your face.

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It's a creepy trope. It's like, also, the same thing happens to

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girls around last call at a bar. Yeah, yeah, that guy who

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was like on the other side of
the room. Every time you look,

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he'll be ten feet closer. To
be fair, though, they're so trashed

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at that point that like two seconds
is like actually two minutes. Sure the

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guy has already walked up, tried
to hit on you, walked away,

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come back. Yeah. Everyone everyone
is both the victim and the criminal.

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At the last call and apparently I
saw this. He has Slenderman has an

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affinity for stealing children away to the
forest. Yeah, he's connected to the

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forest. He's definitely connected. He's
seen in the presence of children. Yeah,

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he'll take children and adults equally.
But there seems to be a lot

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of like him just being around kids. A lot of those pictures it's children

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in the foreground and then him just
malurking in the back. Malurking, he's

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lodging in the back. He's lodging
around with his lard wallet, all right.

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So so that's that's what we're dealing
with. This is a creepy enough

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dude. Also enjoy a silent I
like the fact that he's silent. Yeah,

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yeah, there are some I don't
know, like I would YouTube.

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There's plenty of YouTube videos about them, and and they're fun to watch because

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they range from like the genuinely like
oh this is interesting, down to like

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the there's like you know all those
like crime Stoppers shows that have dramatizations.

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Oh, there's a lot of that
good stuff. There's a part that has

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an audio recording of like a prolonged
discussion with a Slenderman, which I don't

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buy My favorite. My favorite Slenderman
video is one that's made by a bunch

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of twelve year olds that I love
these kids. There's some some high drama,

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there's some moments of terror. You
know, I really enjoyed it.

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That's awesome. Let's talk a little
bit about where this dude came from?

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Yeah, why why is he so
popular in these internet circles? Now?

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What calls that? There's I mean, and we'll get into both sides of

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this, but there's there's multiple origins
for this guy. And there's a very

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popular doc. I mean, that's
the fun thing. A thing that's born

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on the Internet. That means that
it's it's data somewhere. So we actually

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know exactly where the modern idea of
the slender Man was born. That's right

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down to the date. Yeah,
how's that for specificity? Didn't expect that,

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did you? Well, maybe you
should think about that next time.

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And you know, don't underestimate us. We work really hard. And it's

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twenty fourteen. Yeah, Flora,
when when did this guy show up?

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How the start? Well, I'll
tell you. In June of two thousand

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and nine, there was a forum
thread created on the website something awful dot

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com. This is the modern origin
of the old slendimen. So what is

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something awful dot com? Something awful
dot com is a comedic website which was

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started in nineteen ninety nine. It
has blogs, forums, articles, funny

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pictures, memes, etc. On
it. It's just a comedy website with

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a variety of crap on it.
Now, if you're if you're playing along

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on home, yeah, and you
try to go to something awful dot com,

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it might give you a little trouble. I had trouble earlier, but

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you were just able to pull it
up. I see, well, I

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can get I can get to the
forums, but I can't. I don't

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think I can get to the website
itself anyway. Something awful dot com if

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you want to try it's the forums
are all you need if you want some

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slendermen. Yeah, that's that's where
this thing was. So the forum thread

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was a photoshop contest called Paranormal Pictures, in which participants were required to make

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ordinary photos creepy through photoshop or some
kind of digital manipulation of the photos.

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They then had to pass them off
as authentic on different paranormal forums. That's

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that's part I think was yeah,
pretty funny. Yeah, it's kind of

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a fun dick contest. Yeah,
yeah, it is. So a participant

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whose handle was Victor's Surge. That
was the user name Deserge likes photoshop.

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He's got filter power, max power. His real name was Eric Knudsen.

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He posted a couple of black and
white photos. In all fairness, it

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could have been a soft k just
Nudson. Eric would have never gone by

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there. All right, fair enough, fair enough. So he posts these

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black and white photos of of these
different groups of children who looked like it

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was kind of early eighties from the
from the dress of them, Yeah,

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I think from the clothing they were
wearing maybe uh. And in the background

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you could clearly see a Dexi's Midnight
Runner tape cassette in the photo. Well,

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one of them, I swear has
has a fair faucet hair. I

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was like, well, it's it's
at least late seventies, early early eighties.

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Yeah. In the background of each
of these pictures there's a tall,

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dark figure standing there. The photos
were each submitted with a different description,

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and I believe you have the descriptions
of the photos. So the first description,

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as they submitted it was we didn't
want to go. We didn't want

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to kill them, but it's persistent
silence and outstretched arms horrified and comforted us

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at the same time. Dot dot
nineteen eighty three, photographer unknown, presumed

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dead. That's the first description for
the first photo and the other one one

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of two recovered photographs from the Sterling
City Library Blaze, notable for being taken

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the day which fourteen children vanished and
for what is referred to as the slender

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Man deformities, cited as film defects
by officials. Fire at the library occurred

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one week later. Actual photograph confiscated
as evidence nineteen eighty six. Photographer Mary

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Thomas missing since June thirteenth, nineteen
eighty six. So those accompanied the photos

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that he submitted. Yep. He
posted another one the next day and a

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couple of other something awful. Forum
users picked up the idea of this slender

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Man and created their own stories,
kind of like backstory, kind of deals

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the talor of Slenderman. Everybody listen
to me right now. This is what

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happened when you don't eat. Telling
these kids you're gaunt? What is that?

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That ain't health? I'll tell you
what health. He is. So

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from there, the idea just snowballed
and and virally it begat numerous new creations

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of stories of art, media,
etc. Including the following story posted on

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the scary short story site Creepy Pasta
Yeah, or the short scary story site

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Yeah. You know one fun fact
before you read that that um. For

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a long time, I didn't recognize
that there was a difference. I thought

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that that slender Man was like a
fan thing because I didn't having not played

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a lot of Minecraft. In my
mind, I had confused the Minecraft Enderman

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with slender Man, and I was
like, Oh, they're just pretending to

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be a video game villain and they're
talking about it, and I for years

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I had the two mixed together in
my brain and I thought that it was

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like a fan fiction kind of thing. Oh, I didn't. And then

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I played Minecraft and I was like, wait a minute, there's a there's

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a whole thing about the Enderman coming
out after Slenderman did oh because they all

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they're also kind of tall, they
teleport, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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you shouldn't look at them. Although
they don't look quite like pictures. They're

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not wearing suits. They're just all
black and they're just blocky. Andy rectangular,

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but they definitely do teleport to and
fro. But yeah, they're there,

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they are connected a bit um.
As a matter of fact, it's

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it's actually here in the even in
the in the official Wikipedia article about slender

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Man, it talks about Marcus Notch
Pressing, who created Minecraft, and and

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then it was there was a lot
of people who drew that conclusions. Okay,

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now I'm a little smarter. I
feel a little better that I wasn't

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the only person who I mean,
these people said, oh this was supposed

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to be like this. I thought
they were the same thing. Um.

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But apparently he's very popular in video
game world. He's been incorporated into a

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number of games. So yeah,
there you go. Yeah, sorry for

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sorry for the digression. There.
Let's know, what are the small folks

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that creepypasta have for us? So
this is this is one of the mini

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pieces of fiction that have been written
based on mister Slenderman. Is it?

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Is it erotic? No board,
But there have been plenty of of those

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written. Oh no really Yeah,
that's weird and tragic and I'm gonna have

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to fight. That goes my day
off or is it a day off?

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Oh? Google erotic thong Slenderman and
Metallica. So this was posted in the

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on the Creepy Pasta website, which
I don't I don't get that creepy pasta.

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I don't get it. Yeah,
maybe maybe we're too old for that.

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Probably probably hippies. The following is
a witness account of an encounter with

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the slender Man. After waking up
with a jolt, the girl laid in

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bed a few seconds longer, Reaching
over to switch on her bedside lamp,

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she tried to remember exactly what had
stolen her sweet slumber away. When she

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couldn't, she swung her legs over
the side of the bed and heaved herself

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up. Checking the time on her
phone, she snorted when she saw it

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was midnight on the witching hour.
She snuffled her way over to her troth

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her truffle bin. Knowing that sleep
would only evade her. She left her

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bedroom for the kitchen, a good
cup of coffee on her mind. This

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girl makes bad decisions as she passed
self sabotaging. As she passed by her

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front door, a chill ran down
her spine. It's only winter, she

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told herself, focusing again on the
coffee plan. And you just know the

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next day at work, she's gonna
be like, I'm so tired and just

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bitch about it all day until she
has that five hour energy god. Measuring

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out scoops water and preparing her cup
kept her occupied, but as the dark

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liquid boiled, she had nothing left
to keep her mind from wandering off.

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The chill returned, and she couldn't
help but glance behind her to the front

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door. It stood there innocently enough, just like always. The dead bulb

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was still in place, and she
could see nothing amiss with it. Turning

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back to her coffee, she did
her best to forget about the feeling.

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With her cup in hand, she
started back towards her bedroom. As she

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walked by the front door, she
decided that a quick glance at the peep

403
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:39.839
hole would calm her restless thoughts.
The best decision anybody has made in ever,

404
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:45.680
never, ever, ever, look
out a peep hole, ever at

405
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:47.920
midnight, at any time, at
any time. Movies have taught us two

406
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:53.720
things that either the person on the
other side is going to look really weird

407
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:59.599
and comically fish eyed, or it's
a mafia hitman and the gun is already

408
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:05.400
held up to the whole Have we
learned nothing people, peepole's, make them

409
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.200
illegal, get rid of them all. When to pull the trigger like that

410
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:12.400
though? Yeah, well that's what
I always wondered, because I mean,

411
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:16.599
they just have to guess, I
don't know. The chill worsened with each

412
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:21.920
step she took towards the door and
further away from the safety and warmth of

413
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:27.680
her blankets. She pressed her empty
hand against the cold metal door and took

414
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:31.720
a deep breath before leading her eye
to the peep hole. That's a weird

415
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:35.920
phrase, think, would you would
you lead your eye to this microscope?

416
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:40.440
Please? I want you to look
at these blood samples also metal doors.

417
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:45.359
She's living in a vault. Yeah, anyway, that's a bad living situation.

418
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:51.039
Well, we've established she's not good
at life choices. That's true,

419
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:55.559
she's self sabotaging. At first,
she could only see an inky blackness that

420
00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:01.279
somehow seemed to swirl in itself,
which she blinked in surprise. The void

421
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:08.039
melted away glaucoma. She wished it
hadn't. In its place, there stood

422
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:14.239
what she could only guess was once
a man. The limbs were long and

423
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:20.760
inhumanly awkward, with bulky joints branching
off into several arms. Not unlike the

424
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:25.039
branches of a tree, the creature
was draped in a black suit, somehow,

425
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:30.800
making the thing more nightmarish to her. The icing on the proverbial cake,

426
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:35.880
however, was what passed as the
hellish thing's face. It was as

427
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:40.440
though her mind blurred the ghastly visage
to spare itself further shock and horror.

428
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.599
She shoved herself away from the door. With the hands still pressed against it,

429
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:50.159
The scalding mug of coffee fell,
the liquid burning her bare legs.

430
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:53.360
As she fell backwards and tried to
crawl away from the door, she knew

431
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:59.760
somehow that her mind hadn't been playing
tricks on her. As she crab walked

432
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:05.199
away from the door, she watched
as tendrils as black as the void itself

433
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:09.639
sneaked around through the cracks. The
girl was trapped between the instinct to flee

434
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:14.519
and the gut feeling to not turn
her back on the door, and the

435
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.719
desire for just one more cup of
coffee, just another folders in her cup.

436
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.599
Oh, never know, the sweet
taste of flavor crystals again, Oh,

437
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:27.679
the best part of waking out,
It's not this. When the door

438
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:31.199
jolted, they urged to flee.
Overcame her and she slipped in the burning

439
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:36.480
liquid As she tried to make it
back to her room. She knew deep

440
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:39.079
down that she was trapping herself in
a corner, but she had to get

441
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:43.800
away from the door. The girl
was halfway down the hallway when she heard

442
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:49.800
the previously locked door creak open.
She screamed and slipped into a wall,

443
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:54.239
cracking her chin on it and stunning
her. After that, there was only

444
00:35:54.320 --> 00:36:00.880
blackness Nicole. A warm male voice
snapped the woman out of her trance.

445
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:06.039
As she turned around, she was
met by one of her sister's doctors.

446
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.280
She nodded, not sure if she
should say anything, or if she could

447
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:15.480
even find her voice if she did
have something to say. That morning,

448
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:20.199
she'd gotten an urgent phone call from
the hospital saying that her sister, Lindsay,

449
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:23.679
was there. Before they had even
let her see her, the doctors

450
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:28.599
had pulled her off to the side
and insisted that they talked to her about

451
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:35.159
what might have happened. Phrases like
self inflicted an assault had been thrown around,

452
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:39.199
and Nicole felt her mind real she
still hadn't fully understood what they'd been

453
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:44.920
saying until she saw Lindsay with her
own eyes. The girl makes so many

454
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:46.880
bad decisions that even her family's like, yeah, she just did this to

455
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:52.239
herself for attention. Her little sister
had a bandage wrapped around her head,

456
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.039
covering both of her ears as well
as her eyes. They said it was

457
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:01.360
to keep her now deadened eyes from
drying out and to try to keep infection

458
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:07.599
out of the wounds Lindsey had made
to her ears. The doctors had guessed

459
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:12.599
that either she or someone else had
jammed a pencil into them to keep her

460
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:16.440
off balance or to deafen herself against
something. There was the mix of first

461
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:21.679
and second degree burns on her hands, legs, and feet from what was

462
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.920
assumed to be the coffee her neighbor's
found spilled all over the entry way to

463
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:30.519
her apartment. As Nicole walked into
her sister's hospital room the first time,

464
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:36.119
she thought she'd spied the silhouette of
a man in the window that she knew

465
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:39.840
was impossible. Her sister's room was
on the third story of the hospital.

466
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:49.000
Bum bum bum yeah, floating,
Well, that raises a lot of questions,

467
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.880
mostly who the fuck wants a cup
of coffee in the middle of the

468
00:37:53.960 --> 00:38:00.679
night. I can't get past that. Mmmmmm ah. I mean, like,

469
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.360
I mean, granted, I don't
drink coffee, but I enjoy tea.

470
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.880
I drink a lot of tea when
and when I wake up, when

471
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.840
anyone wakes up in the middle of
the night, who wants like a hot

472
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:17.320
beverage? No one ever ever babies. That's not even a hot beverage.

473
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.559
I don't know. Have you seen
that? Mom? Whoa? Yeah,

474
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:28.440
all right, so that's that was
on Creepy Pasta. That's one of many

475
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:35.119
stories actually, but this that was
inspired by these photographs. Yeah, and

476
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:42.119
subsequently some other stories origin stories in
mishmash and art, YadA YadA. So

477
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.280
let me ask you this um not
at all leading question, Flora. Okay,

478
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:51.519
if the slender Man has such a
definitive beginning and it is takes no

479
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:55.760
pains to hide this out, the
fact that it's these are fictionalized and people

480
00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:00.800
are doing this just for sea giggles, then I mean, how on earth

481
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:02.559
is it are people taking this seriously? I mean, wouldn't there have to

482
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:07.119
be some larger historical context than which
this can be viewed, which clearly is

483
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:16.320
not the case. Well, I'm
glad you asked spiels. We're like the

484
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:21.719
worst kind of shills. We can
never sell electronics to, like at a

485
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:28.000
street fair. Wow, that's an
excellent question, sir. I don't know

486
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.880
about this, but I'll try it
in front of all these people just to

487
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:35.920
see. Well. I gotta tell
you, I'm skeptical, but I really

488
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:40.159
would like to make omelets in a
jiffy. There have been origins that have

489
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:47.000
predated, or have been said to
have predated this uh creation on something awful.

490
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:51.039
Yeah, we'll go through. We'll
go through a few of them and

491
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:57.400
see if we can tie some string
on on the corkboard. Yeah. Now,

492
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.039
because here's now we're left in of
fun and interesting crossroads. I mean,

493
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:05.599
you've got, on one hand,
guy makes something up and and good

494
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.000
on him. He came up with
a scary concept that resonates with people that

495
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:15.360
people are kind of kind of enjoy
being scared by. Or on the other

496
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:22.199
hand, this guy kind of accidentally
happened back into a pre existing, very

497
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:28.679
real entity that is actually bucking with
people's ship and has been for hundreds of

498
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:37.960
years now. This guy Knudson,
he attributed Nudsen, or he attributed the

499
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:46.440
creation of Slenderman to influences such as
HP Lovecraft, Stephen King, short stories,

500
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:53.039
games, video games like Silent Hill, Yep, Shadow People, Yeah,

501
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:59.400
and the old Moffman. Oh,
Jay Moffman, the third yep from

502
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.800
Maryland. You know, I'm sorry. No, Nope, that was mister

503
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:08.199
Goatman, the Goatman, mister goats
from from Maryland. It's a my Mothman

504
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:13.000
is a he's from West Virginia.
You don't hear that. To Woten,

505
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:19.559
We're done, that's moving on.
So those are the influences that he said

506
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:23.960
helped him create this old, this
story, this figure. But throughout history

507
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:32.400
people have have drawn some parallels between
this creation of the slender Man and some

508
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:37.760
other entities that are prevalent in folklore, ye, in mythology, or could

509
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:46.480
even be maybe the same dude,
Oh what well in eternal Boghman through the

510
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:53.079
ages. Yeah, eternal snogan.
Let it's just another boog human. Um

511
00:41:55.159 --> 00:42:00.719
I I just it. Doing that
voice is like to me, it's like

512
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:06.079
snuggling into a blanket. It just
feels good to do it. Every everything

513
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.960
is among these days. I know, you can't get away from Batman and

514
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:15.559
Spiderman. Here's here's a popular one. You're gonna hear of this this character.

515
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:21.960
Actually, this this piece of art
ye wood cutting called it's the written

516
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:27.920
This is like Jack Ritter. Yes, it's like company. I'm done.

517
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:31.519
That's it, okay Ritter. Yeah, it's German, which means the night.

518
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.519
Now. Now for the record,
though, just to make sure like

519
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.719
that we're all clear, it's uh
Richter is like the night k n I

520
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:43.280
g h T. Right, It's
not that I supposed because if it was

521
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.599
the other one, it would be
knocked. So it's it's not like is

522
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.280
in the opposite of day. Correct, It's good good to point that out.

523
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:54.840
This is an idea that's kind of
gotten smeared all over the internet.

524
00:42:55.280 --> 00:43:02.320
Yeah, and the story goes a
guy named Hans Freckburg in the sixteenth century

525
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:13.599
did a woodcut of data the night
being impaled by the lance like arm of

526
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:19.559
a skeletal, faceless, multi limbed
figure, and also did a woodcut of

527
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:25.400
a child being dragged from its home
by the same very tall, skeletal figure.

528
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:35.000
The problem is there was no Hans
Frekenberg. What and the woodcuts which

529
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:44.199
are pasted all over these O Slendiman
sites were digitally manipulated images of Hans hobiin

530
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:52.239
the Younger's woodcuts. The actual artist
named Hans hobiin who you may recognize from

531
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:57.000
the portrait of Henry the Eighth.
Oh that Hans Hobi. Yeah, that's

532
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.840
the dude. Whoa, that's the
one. He was the actual creator of

533
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:07.000
these woodcuts, and they're from a
series called Dance of Death. He did

534
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:08.960
the forty one of them, I
think, and if you flip them all

535
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:14.320
together, it's a guy tap dancing
on a grave. But the one of

536
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:17.920
the night and the one of the
child, it's it's it's ridiculous. The

537
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.960
one of the child in particular.
Look, there is no tall skeletal figure

538
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:30.119
dragging this kid out. It's actually
a smaller size skeletal figure leading the child

539
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:37.599
out. It's completely different from from
the woodcut week the night one. Uh,

540
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:44.039
it is not multi limbed. It
is actually looks like a skeletal figure

541
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:49.440
holding a lance that is that is
piercing a night because the night is combating

542
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.760
death. I get it. His
series was basically just to say, everybody

543
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:55.960
dies. It doesn't matter who you
are, what you are, You're you're

544
00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:00.719
gonna die. Scorpio, You're gonna
die. But in the fifteen hundreds,

545
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:04.800
I mean, is that something that
anyone who to be reminded of. I

546
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.320
mean, like with the Black Death. Yeah, old men were like thirty

547
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:14.039
six years old. Yeah. Yeah, So this that's one thing that has

548
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:19.800
gotten spread around as like evidence that
the Slenderman has been with us throughout the

549
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.559
ages. That is fall Snoop and
you know what and I you know,

550
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:27.079
in my research, actually I didn't
find that out. I didn't see you.

551
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.400
I just learned that. But even
before that, it just something about

552
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:36.320
that, It just it just felt
to me like after the fact research,

553
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.880
like like pre presupposed conclusion research,
like well, this is what we've got,

554
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:43.639
So now we have to go and
look for things that look like that

555
00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:46.239
so we can say it's always been
here. Yeah yeah, I can see

556
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:51.639
that. And then again, what
else what else can we do? Right?

557
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.480
And I mean, and the idea
of death is as a tall,

558
00:45:54.719 --> 00:46:00.320
gaunt specter or shade has always been
And I think that's one of the reasons

559
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:06.079
why the slender Man like gains traction. You know, it's it's it's a

560
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:12.519
slightly interesting little twist on an archetype. Yeah, on an archetype. Whoa

561
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.280
dude, You're you're throwing a live
preserver to Captain Carl here. Oh yeah,

562
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:20.519
you are dragging him into this one. He's not pouring in it at

563
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:22.960
all. You're bringing him in no, like, oh is this door open?

564
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:28.639
Well, let's just go on here. I am allowed to have opinions

565
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:38.800
without Carl sticking as young in this
whole the Captain Carl. We get along

566
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:43.079
the same lines, though, we
get this something called the Brandenburg wood cut,

567
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:53.880
supposedly a sixteenth century would cut by
an unknown artist what I don't know

568
00:46:53.920 --> 00:47:00.239
who did it. So if you
look at this thing, it's it's a

569
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:05.159
nice little woodsy path that's in perspective
going back to a point on the horizon

570
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:09.119
with trees on the side, and
then a dude in a suit with wavy

571
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:16.800
arms alongside one of the trees.
It looks fake as hall to put it

572
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:23.440
in a nutshell, so it looks
like a bunch of New age bullshit.

573
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:31.840
You know. I tried to look
for the actual woodcut that, you know,

574
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:37.639
maybe somebody had just stuck this figure
in just like old Hans Holbein,

575
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:42.719
but I wasn't able to find anything
on this. Now, maybe I didn't

576
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:46.480
dig deep enough, But for this
one, I'm just gonna throw the old

577
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:52.960
bullshit flag right now, and they
can challenge my ruling on the field if

578
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.960
they want. But yeah, this
is like a this is like a high

579
00:47:55.039 --> 00:48:00.440
school project. This isn't a woodcut. That's like an ink trans block,

580
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.920
you know, linoleum blocks. Oh
yeah, yeah, that's what this looks

581
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:08.360
like. I got one. I'm
very proud of it. Ain't I did

582
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:15.679
it from a magic card. Oh
seeing, that's cool anyway, Uh stupid,

583
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:17.719
it's dumb, I don't. I
don't think they can they can use

584
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:24.039
that. So that's another one.
That's there's another one that apparently some people

585
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:30.400
use as as proof that this guy's
been around. You're gonna like this one.

586
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:35.039
It's a Hans Balding painting. I
don't know why they're all Hans,

587
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:40.199
but it's called the Three Ages of
Woman and Death and it shows a woman

588
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:44.880
and well, it shows three different
women in different ages of life and then

589
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:51.920
a very gaunt, ghastly figure which
I guess represents death. And the story

590
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.800
goes they had to x ray it
for for some reason or another one Oh

591
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.519
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
and the x ray show that the figure

592
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:07.280
of death had extra limbs that had
been painted over. Well, if you,

593
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:13.880
uh, I don't know. Look
at it. You can see that

594
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:19.239
the limbs have been copied and pasted
and inverted. Yeah, and and just

595
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.719
placed in different parts of the arm. Basically, yeah, they just rotate.

596
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:30.000
I mean, that's that's like the
weakest of photoshoppery. Yeah. All

597
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.000
you have to do is look at
the damn thing to know that that one't

598
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:37.880
is bums anyway. Those are your
renaissance uh fakes. Now, there is

599
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:45.159
something that is that is brought up
here and there of an old German supposed

600
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:52.119
old German tale of a being called
del Grossman basically means the Great Man,

601
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:58.159
and the stories go it's a German
boogeyman or fairy of the black forest,

602
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:02.800
and they described it as a tall
humanoid that took away bad children who entered

603
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:10.719
the forest at night and also made
misbehaviors disappear, and possibly also goes after

604
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.440
bad people, not just children,
and it impales them on tree limbs where

605
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:21.840
they's so German, that's the most
German I believe that one. Yeah.

606
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:25.239
Now I don't know if this I
didn't find whether or not this one is

607
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:32.239
actually a real figure from German fairy
tales or folklore. The jury for that

608
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:36.920
one is still out because it does
sound like something that could be an actual

609
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:40.719
figure. But there were also a
posts and and things that I read on

610
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:44.880
the Internet saying, you know,
I'm German, I've never heard of this.

611
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.280
Yeah, oh man, I fell
for it. I fell for it

612
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:52.119
because when you say, hey,
there's an old folk tale about children getting

613
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:55.280
impaled, I was like, yeah
that, yes, I don't need to

614
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:59.679
check that. That sounds that sounds
right, but yeah, I mean it

615
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:01.800
could be there. There could be
out there. So if if you're German

616
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:06.480
and you know of Derk, oh
my god, I'm murdering this, yeah

617
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:12.239
Rosman, then tell us, tell
us if if you've heard of this,

618
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:19.199
or if if this is just made
up, both come on Germans, rally

619
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:27.559
Germans to me. Let this be
off. Find us out there. There

620
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:31.800
is another wood cutting of Deck Rossman
that is kind of like a weird,

621
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:38.119
lanky, faceless figure. Again,
it was even there's even less of it

622
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:43.280
out there than the stupid high school
project one. Yeah, but I don't

623
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.920
know if that one's true or not. But let's get out of Germany and

624
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:51.880
uh, let's go to the old
United Kingdom. Oh my god, in

625
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:54.840
my mind was like, please say
England, please say England. How about

626
00:51:55.719 --> 00:52:00.519
how about some Celtic Italians here?
Good, I've got another Goodland tie in

627
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.360
too, So bring bring us your
celts and I'll bring you mine. We've

628
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:08.599
got a figure called the fair Dove, which translates as the black man and

629
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:15.920
black as in dark disposition. Oh. He haunts footpaths at night, mostly

630
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:22.440
in forests. He is entirely malevolent. The description of his appearance given is

631
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:30.000
mostly like a burnt corpse with like
the face burnt off, no no features

632
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:35.000
or anything. But this is a
this is another boogeyman. This is this

633
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:38.599
something that's you know, teaching children
to behave or the fair Dove is gonna

634
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:43.599
get you. Also, um,
I think it's another term for the devil.

635
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:47.440
Oh, okay, all right.
In a way, our Scottish and

636
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:52.000
Irish listeners out there, if you
know about the fair Dove, please for

637
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:55.639
one thing, tell me if I'm
saying dof right, Yeah, I like

638
00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:00.159
it. I would have said fear
dub, so you're better than me.

639
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:05.719
It spells fear dub. Yeah,
that's that's what I have of music nowadays.

640
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:12.199
Oh doesn't count. Yeah, that
one's interesting. Now what what you

641
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.039
said? You had one? Right? Yeah? And I hate to harp

642
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:20.079
on this, but um, I
have another another villain of the Doctor Who.

643
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:23.800
Oh um, in addition to the
obviously what we talked about with the

644
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:29.719
Weeping Angels, but also the Silence
creepy um. And if you don't watch

645
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:31.559
Doctor Who, you're still a good
person to worry about it. Um.

646
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:36.039
But there's a lot of people who
don't care, who aren't that magnanimous about

647
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:37.280
it, so I have to get
that out there. Sure. Um,

648
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:43.239
there's another really interesting villain, a
creature called the Silence. And they were

649
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:47.119
they were very tall, very thin. They wore they wore suits, black

650
00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:52.639
suits, white shirt, black tie, no mouths or very i'm sorry,

651
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:57.519
very small mouths. They're they're like
skins stretched over a mouth. Yeah.

652
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:01.280
They're very gray, like very deep
set, large sockets, but tiny little

653
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:06.960
eyes and a nose and very very
spooky looking. But their their trick was

654
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:09.880
that you couldn't remember them. Yeah, So you see them, yeah,

655
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:15.079
and then the minute you glance away, you have no idea that you just

656
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:20.039
saw. So that's but but I
mean, they don't have any any of

657
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:24.800
the actual characteristics of of the slender
Man. But but the physical appearance is

658
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:30.960
very, very slender Man to the
point where I would be shocked if that

659
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:34.559
wasn't where they were going with it. Sure, sure, because in the

660
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:37.920
Coming from Yeah, in the in
the TV show, these people had been

661
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:42.159
around for hundreds and hundreds of years. They'd always been kind of guiding and

662
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:46.559
shaping mankind for their own dark whatevers
um. But just as far as things

663
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:52.159
that are inspired by this idea,
it's too close to my mind to be

664
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:58.960
a coincidence. Slenderman is usually really
passive aggressive. Yeah, he's like yeah,

665
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:02.000
he's like, oh, is that
what you're gonna wear? Actually,

666
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:08.159
I jumping ahead a little bit.
That's his sassy brother Trenderman. Oh it's

667
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:12.119
not a pun. It is a
pun, but it's not my pun.

668
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:17.039
It's an actual thing that people have
come up with because somebody took a picture

669
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:22.559
of a mannequin wearing gap or something
and they're like, oh, look it's

670
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:29.639
not Slenderman, it's Trenderman. And
so he's like the sassy brother, like

671
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:34.280
passive aggressively tells you want not to
wear Wow, I'm glad that you told

672
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:37.280
me about that, so that I
didn't accidentally repurpose that pun. Yeah,

673
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:43.840
I wouldn't have come up with it
anyway. Welsh mythology has something called the

674
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:49.480
faceless one. Yeah, I mean
that sounds pretty good. That a poem.

675
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:51.679
Yeah, you get yourself some free
poetry with that one. Le'll tear

676
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:54.639
it floor. And I'm gonna need
to hear this with some accent. I

677
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:59.960
I'm just saying I'm gonna need to. Sorry, I don't. I don't

678
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:05.159
know a Welsh accent very well.
It's like between English and Irish. I

679
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:07.440
don't know that I can do it. I mean, I just get our

680
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:09.920
our listeners pissed off at me.
I don't. I didn't ask for a

681
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:13.760
good one. Let me throw some
Australian and I don't care. Make it

682
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:19.280
South Africans fine, by the way, if anyone cares. South African is

683
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:25.400
the hardest because it sounds like every
accent it sounds like a bad English accent.

684
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:29.760
Yeah, and that's hard to do. Actually, for us, it's

685
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:31.960
very easy to do a bad English
accent. I think you're but to deliberate.

686
00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:36.239
It's like it's like deliberately singing off
key. It actually requires more focus

687
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:40.199
than you'd think. Except for us, we just do it. And now

688
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:47.159
reading from the Book of Welsh Folklore
with your host David Florida. This is

689
00:56:47.400 --> 00:57:00.039
TJ. This, Oh TJ.
All right, I'll just throw a bunch

690
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:07.800
together. Yeah, go for it. Hush, thy child, do not

691
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:13.400
stray far from the path. The
Faceless One shall steal you away to fairyland.

692
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:19.480
He prays on sinful and defiant souls
and looks within the woods. He

693
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:24.400
has hands of ebony branches, and
it touches soft to sink. Fear the

694
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:30.320
Faceless One, thy child, for
he shall take you to a dark place.

695
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:34.679
And what shall I become of thou? No? No, so be

696
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:40.440
good, thy little one. Alas
he's here to take thou away. Not

697
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:52.199
in those shoes, sister, Just
kidding, tender man. If we're gonna

698
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:58.280
go out, you're gonna need a
better frock than that. Oh my god,

699
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:04.880
is that a petticount me? Yow? Yeah, Trenderman's here to stay.

700
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:09.760
Yeah, well, welcome uboard trender
Man. So anyways, that's good.

701
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:14.920
I like that. That's they make
They mix up there, these and

702
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:21.239
nows. Well, it's right.
Is this is this a fake poem?

703
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:22.599
Is it real? I don't even
know. Well, whatever it was,

704
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:25.840
the faceless One. He sounds like
a real bag of dicks, real bag

705
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:32.920
of dicks. And then then the
old classic one. We've mentioned this before,

706
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:37.159
the nopara bo Yeah from Japan.
Yeah that sounds familiar, right,

707
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:44.199
Yeah, it's it's just a faceless
yoki that just delights and terrorizing victims.

708
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:49.079
Now that one doesn't spirit you away
to to who knows where? To me

709
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:58.239
is Zaki Town to Slundermanville, Slendimonville, give it up Sandvale. But but

710
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:05.159
yeah, the faceless thing is a
common trait in in things. If if

711
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:08.199
you want to make somebody shit a
brick, then tell him that this thing

712
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:13.000
has no face. It's a spooky
thing, just like uh, I think

713
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:16.800
it's the denial of information. But
we we we get so much from someone's

714
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:22.920
face. I mean like first of
all, hot or not natch question one?

715
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:28.199
Then moving on from their emotional information
like when when the when the face

716
00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:31.519
is blank, you don't you you
you you can't. The way we're yeah,

717
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:37.119
we're The way we're programmed to get
nonverbal information from something is through the

718
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:39.679
face and when you have you know, and through body language. When you

719
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:43.599
don't have that information, you don't
have any of that. It's it is,

720
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:46.920
it's unnerving. It instantly puts you
off balance and that's that's the slender

721
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:52.800
Man to a t. It's he's
clearly coming for you. You have no

722
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:57.639
idea why he's not expressing anything,
there's no you don't you don't see those

723
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:01.440
even there's there's no one information.
You don't see the movements from which you

724
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:07.199
can determine, um anger or is
he passive as he cared? Is he

725
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:10.840
not? He's just this interactibly closing
in on you. Um. And I

726
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:15.880
think that's that's a very very unnerving. Yeah. And that's another thing about

727
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:20.880
him too, like if you see
him, you're gonna get got Yep,

728
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:23.239
he gonna get you. He's gonna
get you, come hell or high water.

729
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:28.199
There's no way to get away from
him. And uh, that's that's

730
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:31.199
another thing that that makes him so
you know, creepy as a as a

731
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:37.760
figure, I mean mostly in these
in these myths throughout cultures in history.

732
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:42.920
He's very much a boogeyman for kids. Yeah, like don't don't screw up

733
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:46.159
or or this slenderman like thing is
going to come get you. And that's

734
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:52.960
that's again going back to now,
I believe that this dude who posted who

735
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:58.280
created this guy back in oh nine, I believe that he probably created him,

736
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.360
you know, from his own SubCom
or whatever. But did he do

737
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:06.920
so with these things in the back
of his head? Is it an archetype

738
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:09.760
like you were saying earlier. Is
it some conglomeration of of you know,

739
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:14.800
just scary things that he didn't he
had encountered, or was there an actual

740
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:20.239
like oh you know this, this
German tale really sings to me. Yeah,

741
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:22.280
let me kind of embellish it a
little bit and make it more modern.

742
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:25.440
I think that it's I mean when
he when you look at those those

743
01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:30.559
original photos, I think he plays
with some really and that's how that's how

744
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:32.039
you know, it's that's why it
survived. That's why we're talking about it.

745
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:38.199
Like there's that very perfectly normal photograph
and then it's not as it's not

746
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:43.400
as alarming to a person if it
was an alligator in the middle of the

747
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:45.039
photograph, like, oh crap,
there's no you know, something very obvious.

748
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:49.960
It's that thing that your eye passes
over and then when you look back

749
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:52.880
at it, you're shocked again because
you missed it. Yeah, you missed

750
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:54.599
it. And then when you when
you really look, you're like, oh

751
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:59.760
my god, oh my god.
Yeah, and you' and that allows you

752
01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:04.519
to empathize with the um this fictionalized
person taking the photo, who just took

753
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.440
the photo and they missed it,
and they didn't see it till later.

754
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:09.840
There was a thing on the news
today about a um this woman who had

755
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:14.920
taken her family to the beach on
vacation, and when she was looking back

756
01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:17.159
through her photos, it's a picture
of her kids playing in the ocean and

757
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:22.079
there's a big wave swelling up and
you can clearly see that there's a shark

758
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:25.119
in the water. It's because the
wave elevated it, so the sun shining

759
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:29.360
through the water, and she didn't
see it at the time, you know,

760
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:31.719
but it's that kind of like yeah, like you, oh, I

761
01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:37.199
missed it, and then and and
so it's it's it's a well done photograph.

762
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:42.119
Let that he that he photoshopped because
it has that it's not so outlandish

763
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:45.760
that you consider it ridiculous, but
it's it's it's not normal enough to dismiss

764
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:52.559
it's right in that that perfect goldilocks
psychological exactly right. And so you're like,

765
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:57.639
and that makes it super creepy.
Yeah, Yeah, it's kind of

766
01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:00.920
hard to go through and say,
you know, well, what what could

767
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:04.639
this thing be since it was made
up? Right? If you though,

768
01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:08.199
go go along the path of this
is an archetype, this thing, this

769
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:14.239
type of thing has been around cultures
throughout the ages, then you could explain

770
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:19.880
it as demonic or even I mean, if you wanted to go around along

771
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:23.559
the Gin path. They the good
thing about Gin is that they fit in

772
01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:29.880
everything. It's the chicken of the
paranormal. Everything tastes like Gin. It's

773
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:31.760
true. You could, I mean
you could if you were so inclined to

774
01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:37.320
say that the slender Man is the
basis for the Grim Reaper. Mm.

775
01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:40.519
I mean, I don't know,
Like, whenever you're afraid and you imagine,

776
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:44.480
like there's always this thing about,
like a big, tall, unknown

777
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:47.239
stranger. You know, even even
in fiction, you know, there's there's

778
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:52.559
a hundred different versions of this,
this sort of thing. Um. The

779
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:57.679
only reason I particularly mention the Doctor
Who because I think that I think that

780
01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:01.599
those are directly derivative of Sure,
this this urban piece of folklore that's cropped

781
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:05.679
up, which is cool. It's
cool to see folklore crop up. Yeah.

782
01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:11.199
Yeah, Also with the Grim Reaper
in mind, another thing you can't

783
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:14.639
escape from. You know, you
can run and run all you want from

784
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:17.599
it, but you're it'll eventually catch
up with Yeah, there's no antidote section

785
01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:20.440
to this podcast, which I'm so
sorry, mister Flora. I know how

786
01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:24.440
much that it means to you.
Yeah. Yeah, I haven't found anything

787
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:30.079
another explanation. It's a transdimensional being. You don't see him walking because he's

788
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:33.800
not moving through three dimensional space.
Yeah, and he phases in and out

789
01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:39.920
of dimensions. Now doesn't necessarily have
to be a higher dimension, because who's

790
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:46.400
to judge what dimensions are in a
hierarchy for It's a nice little way for

791
01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:49.159
us, who have no control over
it, to try and put it in

792
01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:55.800
a box. But no, Nerp, I think I think he's just a

793
01:04:55.920 --> 01:05:00.360
good cultural boogeyman. I think that
he just he just scratches that itch in

794
01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:09.000
the back of your heads, right
in the old young hole. There's they've

795
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:14.800
also thrown out the theory of that
he's a quantum wave form. This one,

796
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:16.679
this one you'll like. Um,
I'd like to put forth a theory

797
01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:20.760
using words that you are very disinclined
to follow up on or read about,

798
01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:27.199
or have any basic knowledge right now, therefore making myself down extremely intelligent.

799
01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:32.880
I'm gonna go with quantum wave form
alex. This is going along the old

800
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:41.559
Schrodinger's cat idea where he doesn't exist
until he's observed. It's hard to boil

801
01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:45.119
down and explain or easily right,
well, which is again the strength of

802
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:48.039
that argument. But let me let
me fix that for you, okay,

803
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:54.239
Um, and I realize I realized
that the cat was dead in my scenario.

804
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:58.639
I guess I realized this is like
I'm about to actually try to apply

805
01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:01.760
some genuine science to a bullsh question. So God help us all. May

806
01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:11.960
God have mercy we're having shut up. The difference being that it's twenty fourteen.

807
01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:17.920
Y'all, ain't no law left.
Do your toots. No. The

808
01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:24.400
thing with Schrodinger's cat is about um
that you that a particle. He used

809
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:27.119
it as an example. It's not. It's not a large organism. It's

810
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:32.320
a They've done actual experiments with electrons. It does not choose a position until

811
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:35.480
it is observed, and um,
which is a hell of a creepy thing.

812
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:40.400
It's it's a cool piece of science. It does not apply to entire

813
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:44.960
organisms or an entire entire entity.
And also, once observed, it is

814
01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:48.280
locked into that state. It does
not go back into uh in visit town

815
01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:56.119
um. And and also the phrase
quantum wave form cannot possibly be applied unless

816
01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:59.719
you have no idea what the phrase
quantum wave form means, like it doesn't

817
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:04.880
that just the other good thing with
that argument that they it's a cellular membrane

818
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:09.920
is the head. That's a dick
phrase that dicks use to sound like they're

819
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:13.039
not dicks. But guess what it
backfires You sound like a double dick.

820
01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:17.400
Well, they they use the the
excuse, how do we know what what

821
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:23.000
a waveform would look like? Or
could or or or might? I mean,

822
01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:26.800
because it's it's it's well I could, I can make the satical physics.

823
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:30.440
I can make the same article for
a flippity jibsets. Yeah, it's

824
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:34.199
a flippity jibsets. Yeah, that's
and when you three two d's and a

825
01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:39.039
z when you observe it, it
has technicals and it's back right, those

826
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:44.119
are the jibsts and that that's that
is particularly irritating to me, just on

827
01:07:44.199 --> 01:07:48.000
the basis of this. I want
to sound like I have a definitive explanation

828
01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:51.480
and I'm very smart, but then
when you pin me in the corner,

829
01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:55.679
I'll say, no, I'm these
are Who's to say what that is?

830
01:07:56.199 --> 01:08:00.280
That's that's just a horseship. Anyone
who said that I will stay ab with

831
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:06.079
a pencil okay, not not not
lethally, just like clean through and through

832
01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:11.719
maybe in the leg, the forearm
or something like that, threats of physical

833
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:15.800
violence. In twenty fourteen, I'm
making an enemy's list. The last one

834
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:19.560
I have here, This this one
is a fun one. A tulpa.

835
01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:24.720
Oh man, We've we've had that
come up before as an explanation. That's

836
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:30.279
once again the belief that a person
can physicalize through intense focus and concentration,

837
01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:35.920
they can actually materialize a being may
of their own thoughts, yes, and

838
01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:40.319
that being can then run a muck
if they are not strong enough to continually

839
01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:45.159
maintain control over that beam. Right, and with this thing going viral as

840
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:50.159
it did, and all these minds
thinking of the same entity that could could

841
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:55.319
could feed until the old tulpa pot
until you've got a nice crispy all right,

842
01:08:55.479 --> 01:08:58.119
let me let me boast it.
Let me propose this counter argument.

843
01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:03.359
How many people on the planet do
you think are aware of the Slenderman?

844
01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:06.439
Out of the seven billion, are
we up to seven billion? Yes?

845
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:11.800
How many people do you think are
aware of the Slenderman? Twenty nine million?

846
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:17.079
No, twenty people, I know
it. Not enough. Not not

847
01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:23.119
enough, because we don't have Jesus
walking on the street. Yeah, exactly,

848
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:28.439
that's my point. We would um
And actually I was gonna a sadly

849
01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:32.439
more pragmatic approach to this is that
we would have Jesus's walking everywhere, not

850
01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:38.399
without Kanye West help dragons. Jesus
walks. Uh, we would have dragons.

851
01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:43.880
But right now we would be neck
deep in iron Men. It is

852
01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:46.680
like the most popular thing on the
planet. Everyone loves iron Man. There

853
01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:51.199
would be iron Man everywhere. Yeah, good morning with Ironman. Helm.

854
01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:58.600
So I am I don't. I
don't see the little tool for working out.

855
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:03.800
Not not in that sense. Yeah, unless unless we're taking a page

856
01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:06.600
at his easy Toss book and it
turns out that every girl is in fact

857
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:12.359
crazy about a sharp dress man.
Oh nice, right, I like it.

858
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:15.800
And since not all women can agree
on who's hot and who's not,

859
01:10:16.039 --> 01:10:19.760
it's right. Just keep the suit, leave the rest real lucy face blank.

860
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:25.399
That's right. You can draw your
own on by o by of that's

861
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:30.199
right, so to choose your vowne
adventure. But for a gentleman caller.

862
01:10:31.319 --> 01:10:36.680
Oh okay, well that's here.
Here's something note that we haven't mentioned.

863
01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:45.319
There's a YouTube channel that that helped
to spike this thing into viral heaven oh

864
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:49.880
man called Marble Hornets. Yeah,
and this is a this is a film

865
01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:58.239
student's YouTube channel created as a found
footage type story. It's sort of a

866
01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:00.880
sort of a blair which yeah,
that's what I was asking. It's a

867
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:08.319
play which esque u type thing.
And they release videos on this channel that

868
01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:14.000
have this whole story of this this
filmmaker student that was was filming this movie

869
01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:18.239
and and then it got too much
for it slenderized and and and you see

870
01:11:18.319 --> 01:11:26.640
this this figure of Slenderman in there
here and there but a ring slender as

871
01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:33.640
slenderment. Uh. I can't stop. I love it. If you went

872
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:39.680
through and watched all the videos,
the videos range in length from a minute

873
01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:44.600
to you know, six minutes or
more or less. Uh, Marble Hornets,

874
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:47.199
that's you. You can go and
check it out. It's if you've

875
01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:50.000
got a lot of time to kill, then then didn't look at some of

876
01:11:50.079 --> 01:11:54.319
them, but and I do.
If you don't, then don't worry about

877
01:11:54.319 --> 01:12:00.079
it. Apparently popular enough that they
they are making a movie with these guys

878
01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:04.399
about it now. So yeah,
so you don't good on him. He

879
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:09.560
did a thing and it it worked. Sure, but you know they're I

880
01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:13.640
mean, of the panoply of slender
Man videos out there, these are some

881
01:12:13.760 --> 01:12:16.000
of the better ones. Oh yeah, uh, this one's actually got the

882
01:12:16.039 --> 01:12:20.720
whole story. Now there's this thing
called an alternate reality game or an a

883
01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:24.760
arg Yeah, is that like that? What was there? Wasn't there one

884
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:27.600
about like vampires and werewolves, Like
when I was in high school, there's

885
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:30.760
a bunch of goths running a muck. Are you talking about Masquerade? Yeah?

886
01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:33.880
No, that was actually that.
That one's a pin and paper game.

887
01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:36.640
There's one where like people had to
like run a muck, like they

888
01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:41.159
couldn't do it in a basement.
I don't know, I like LARPing,

889
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:45.680
sort it was like it was a
gray area between role playing and LARPing.

890
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:48.399
But I think maybe it was.
I think I thought it was that Masquade

891
01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:51.399
one. But remember like, oh
maybe they did the role I remember goths

892
01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:56.119
like in high school and college,
they had like pins that would like designate

893
01:12:56.239 --> 01:13:00.359
their their coven or their their wolf
pack, whether they were Edward or Jacob.

894
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:05.000
This is this predates that this is? Or does that predate this?

895
01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:12.760
Oh? To go forward, you
must go back? Oh god, alright,

896
01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:15.399
so augmented reality is this? You
gotta have Google glass for this.

897
01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:19.920
Oh god, I don't know anything
about it. Actually, I tried to

898
01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:26.039
learn here, we became old manus. True, it is so true.

899
01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:33.159
I don't understand this gay across the
mercader. There's something about this, this

900
01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:40.239
slenderman reality that people are living in. I guess that that slenderman lives in

901
01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:46.119
it with him. Jesus, you
drove the truck to an empty parking lot.

902
01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:53.079
You have nothing. You're like,
there's a thing, my phone's dead,

903
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:58.000
couldn't recall for help. I don't
know. Look, if you're interested

904
01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:00.840
in it, look it up.
That's a real big time waster. And

905
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:06.079
we mentioned uh, we mentioned trenderman
who who is now a friend of ours.

906
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:13.720
That's right, So that for you
is uh is the slender man in

907
01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:19.479
a very thin, tentacled now it's
not here nutshell quantum wave form one nutshell?

908
01:14:19.640 --> 01:14:25.199
Yeah, yeah, it's Oh well, I mean the only thing that

909
01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:30.880
that lurks better than a slender man
is boons. Oh I just looked away

910
01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:33.479
in there there here Yeah, that's
right. I thought about drawing that out

911
01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:38.279
further and I don't don't want to
smart. Just get to it. Yeah,

912
01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:42.359
let's see whose turn is it?
Um? Wrong, it's mine.

913
01:14:42.479 --> 01:14:45.840
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914
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917
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921
01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:21.960
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922
01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:28.279
It's all about keeping your black suit
pants up. Uh huh. When you're

923
01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:30.760
wearing your black suit, you need
to you don't want to sagg in.

924
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:33.439
No, you can't look like a
like a thug. Yeah, you you

925
01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:38.399
gotta go to suspender Man. Oh
yeah, he'll do it. He'll take

926
01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:41.199
care of it. He'll take care
of you know. Um, one of

927
01:15:41.199 --> 01:15:44.399
the worst things that can happen is, uh, you come back to your

928
01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:48.840
car, especially after this busy holiday
shopping season, and people treat parking lots

929
01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:54.800
like bumper cars. Now yeah,
and uh and if you know, if

930
01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:59.039
you if you have damage to your
car, maybe you should go visit my

931
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:02.760
friend Fenderman. He'll take care of
it for you. He's uh, you

932
01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:05.319
know what. And all of his
mechanics, they're well dressed. They don't

933
01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:09.640
talk much, they just get to
it. That's that's really nice. It's

934
01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:12.640
a good place. I hear he
has a lot of good guitars too.

935
01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:18.600
Oh nice. I like that because
um, because um um. There's a

936
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:26.600
company that they guitar um. It's
called Fender. If you haven't heard of

937
01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:34.760
it, take us home, Florida. I've got I've got a website where

938
01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:41.399
you can go on there and read
about hilarious court cases called something lawful.

939
01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:46.560
Oh that was something lawful? What
you just did? I don't know.

940
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:51.520
In baseball, if like like if
the next batter can be so bad that

941
01:16:51.600 --> 01:16:57.279
they take the previous batters like off
base for it. But that's what you

942
01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:00.840
just did. Double play? I
guess, I guess, yeah, you

943
01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:05.520
just got double played. Oh,
man grounded six three. All the good

944
01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:10.680
news is this is that that you
don't have to listen to our crazy horse

945
01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:14.800
shit anymore. Now it's time to
listen to your crazy horse shit. Oh

946
01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:18.600
how about that? Well, Hey, Flora is a giant red button that

947
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:24.199
says listener mail sound. Yeah,
I do push it, okay right now?

948
01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:28.039
Yeah, okay, dude, push
it this one. Come on.

949
01:17:29.119 --> 01:17:33.439
Oh okay, don't tease me.
Push it. I keep missing it.

950
01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:45.760
Here it is. You know,
we got a lot of kids in that

951
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:49.399
sound. I don't want it to
attract a slenderman. Oh gosh, how

952
01:17:49.439 --> 01:17:55.399
do we know we're not acoustically chumming
for a quantum wave form, which,

953
01:17:55.479 --> 01:17:59.600
by the way, is the subtitle
of this episode, acoustically chumming. Yeah,

954
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:02.680
but the quantum wave form. I'll
kick this off. We got a

955
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:08.640
we got a nice letter from from
a listener after listening to our our our

956
01:18:08.680 --> 01:18:13.680
two part extravaganza flood myth Um noticed
that we were we had to kind of

957
01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:17.119
tap dance back and forth on the
our particular religious views versus other people,

958
01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:20.720
you know, like it's a it's
a it becomes a religious debate. And

959
01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:25.479
he is a math and science teacher
and uh, and he pointed out that

960
01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:29.520
it is, Uh, it is
it's a difficult thing, that it becomes

961
01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:33.520
overly politicized, that it's it's not
necessary for science and religion to fight,

962
01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:38.640
and it's it's a fairly localized issue, and that for for math and science

963
01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:42.399
teachers, he described it as being
a very um let me read this here.

964
01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:46.520
Math and science teachers do not see
themselves as carrying banners for one particular

965
01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:53.399
viewpoint. Their job is to relay
information. Okay, the information that they

966
01:18:53.479 --> 01:18:56.880
have in the system that we have
is that's just what they have. It's

967
01:18:56.920 --> 01:19:00.159
not that they're trying to subvert a
child's religious beliefs or anything. You know.

968
01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:03.840
It and it becomes the way he
described it, just it gets not

969
01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:08.000
not blown out of proportion, but
it becomes so much more divisive than it

970
01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:11.680
needs to be. And so thank
you very much for sending that answer.

971
01:19:12.119 --> 01:19:15.479
That's our buddy, Eric and uh
and you know, and devetailing off what

972
01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:19.439
he said, I feel like and
I even even during my my super churchy

973
01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:25.920
days, I have this feeling that
it's so much easier to be Christian when

974
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:30.359
you're persecuted, that it's it's easier
when people are saying, oh, you're

975
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:32.319
wrong, and then you can say
no, I'm not because this is what

976
01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:36.439
I believe, and you can you
can make strong stands and positions, And

977
01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:42.239
it's it's easier to feel secure in
your faith when you are when you are

978
01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:46.640
under attacks. Yeah, um,
it's very hard when everyone around you agrees

979
01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:50.279
with you. Then you just have
to settle into a day to day I

980
01:19:50.399 --> 01:19:54.079
have to you know, I'm doing
good things. I you know, it's

981
01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:58.239
that's the hard work of being a
person of faith. It's it's the day

982
01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:00.199
to day things. It's it's the
making sure that you're living up to that

983
01:20:00.399 --> 01:20:04.720
standard when there's when there's no one
watching, when there's no one And I

984
01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:09.279
would think about that a lot that
it would be you know that you you

985
01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:12.079
wish that someone would walk up to
you in the halls at high school and

986
01:20:12.119 --> 01:20:15.680
say you're stupid for being a Christian, you know, because then you can

987
01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:18.239
be like, no, I'm going
to now exhibit my faith by by by

988
01:20:18.359 --> 01:20:21.960
not being um combative about you know, like you can. It gives you

989
01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:27.600
a platform, yeah, of sorts. And and I'm talking I mean not

990
01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:30.800
about like true persecution. I'm not
talking about people being rounded up and tortured

991
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:34.000
or anything like that, which has
happened historically and happens today in parts of

992
01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:36.720
the world. But you know,
it's it's the same thing with that that

993
01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:41.960
that war on Christmas that people mentioned. There's no fucking war on Christmas.

994
01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:46.399
And if there was Christmas fucking one, yeah, it won. Everybody.

995
01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:51.680
Everybody loves Christmas. There's no like
hidden cabal whose job it is to de

996
01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:57.520
Christianize Christmas. We get it.
Even the people who don't, who don't

997
01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:02.039
describe ascribe to Christian beliefs, still
have Christmas and they still understand what it

998
01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:06.439
is. Yeah, but there's this
this kind of attempt to gin up a

999
01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:11.640
backlash against yourself so that it makes
you stronger, It makes you, gives

1000
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:14.560
you that that ability to say,
no, I'm persecuted, but I'm standing

1001
01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:18.960
strong for my faith. It's it's
easier sometimes to throw a punch than it

1002
01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:23.800
is to stand still. Yeah,
And I think that that's what a lot

1003
01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:29.760
of this um evolution versus creationism.
I think some of that is just ginned

1004
01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:32.079
up so that people feel persecuted,
so they feel like they're under attack,

1005
01:21:32.920 --> 01:21:36.439
you know, and there are and
as we said in the previous podcast,

1006
01:21:36.560 --> 01:21:43.000
that there are those people who are
just militant evolutionists and atheists who are just

1007
01:21:43.399 --> 01:21:46.399
dicks, dicks about it, just
can't wait to run into the playground and

1008
01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:51.039
kick over all the sandcastles like and
those people are no better. Um and

1009
01:21:51.239 --> 01:21:56.399
they and they too feel persecuted.
They feel like like their rights are being

1010
01:21:56.479 --> 01:22:00.760
sublimated by you know, and it's
it's it's largely false to give both people

1011
01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:05.640
a reason to be up in arms, a reason to demonstrate their faith,

1012
01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:11.279
whether that be in God or in
a textbook. Right, well, that

1013
01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:15.960
leads us to this An email from
Taper actually nice, hey Tabor, h

1014
01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:21.039
Tabor, and Taper says, going
to push back on the creationist scientist smug

1015
01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:29.640
off. My experience is that atheist
slash scientist attacks in quotes on creationism do

1016
01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:32.159
not, for the most part,
target the well, that's just what I

1017
01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:36.920
believe people. This only became an
issue starting in the seventies, he says,

1018
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:43.119
with fundamentalist Christian political crusades to have
creationism taught in public schools. This

1019
01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:49.359
creation science push, later morphing into
intelligent design theory, was the whole impetus

1020
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:57.479
for the modern science religion fight.
Interesting insight on that, and it is

1021
01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:02.720
frustrating and weird how a lot of
that impetus has come from the political world,

1022
01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:08.039
where it's in the constitution. It
shouldn't even be a part of it.

1023
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:13.319
Right, And here's the thing is
that it's it is the same tactic

1024
01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:17.520
that is used by both sides.
Right when you say we are under attack,

1025
01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:24.119
When Alex Jones says we are under
attack, were consistently under attack by

1026
01:23:24.199 --> 01:23:28.840
the New World Order, you galvanize
your group. Yeah, we are attack.

1027
01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:32.359
We have to hang together. I
need to say everything that you say.

1028
01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:35.359
We need to be of one mind
and one purpose, or otherwise all

1029
01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:42.119
is lost. You create this dramatic
falseness that when you're trying to rally people,

1030
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:45.800
it's the same exact thing that Hitler
did. We are being attacked by

1031
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:50.239
these mud races, by the Jews, by the Gypsies, by gay people,

1032
01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:54.079
like we are being attacked, and
if we don't strike out now,

1033
01:23:54.279 --> 01:23:58.399
everything will be lost. And it
is a tactic. It is a tactic

1034
01:23:58.439 --> 01:24:01.239
that has been used time and time
again. Yeah, uh so cool,

1035
01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:06.319
thanks for writing in tape. Interesting
uh and uh and we've got we've got

1036
01:24:06.359 --> 01:24:13.119
a few puns. Another another historical
tactic used to subjugate the pun. Yeah,

1037
01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:16.359
oh man, we'll kicking this off. We got a great pun from

1038
01:24:16.479 --> 01:24:24.479
Josie. And my favorite part of
this is the PostScript. Josie's pun ish

1039
01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:30.520
Alistair Boneley because he had sex with
everything. I love this. This is

1040
01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:34.720
like, this is like a pun
high coup because it because he had sex

1041
01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:40.199
with everything. Do you get it? And my favorite part is the the

1042
01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:44.319
brief PostScript that is possibly the only
pun to leave my mind, as they

1043
01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:50.000
were all terrible, including that I'm
so sorry. See it's so unnecessary to

1044
01:24:50.079 --> 01:24:55.520
apologize for a pun, but I
since I always want to. I I

1045
01:24:55.720 --> 01:24:59.479
respect it. It is a genuine
you have to. There's a part of

1046
01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:01.600
you that has to say I'm sorry, but that won't stop you from doing

1047
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:04.600
it, and I respect you.
Well played, Josie. Yeah, thanks

1048
01:25:04.840 --> 01:25:11.159
thanks for sending us that. Josie
also writes in in the episode on the

1049
01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:17.920
Illuminati, Stecco refers to a large
wrestling company as WWF Wrestling and says,

1050
01:25:18.039 --> 01:25:24.880
isn't it redundant to say the wrestling
after the WWF as WWF as an acronym

1051
01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:29.479
for World Wrestling Federation. Therefore it's
already it already has wrestling in its name.

1052
01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:32.640
I guess it's like saying ATM machine
or pin number, but people do

1053
01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:39.119
it. Also, WWF had to
change their name in two thousand and two

1054
01:25:39.199 --> 01:25:45.159
to WWE, which is World Wrestling
Entertainment. Diamond Dallas Page, although he

1055
01:25:45.319 --> 01:25:47.199
was in the company when it was
still called WWF, has since been in

1056
01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:53.640
the company after the name change,
apparently super into wrestling. Oh well,

1057
01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:57.560
then you love us because we love
wrestling too. We know, we know

1058
01:25:57.720 --> 01:26:00.640
that it's it's WWE. Trust us, we we weird, We definitely know

1059
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:05.119
that. But to us, it's
always w W. Yeah, I go

1060
01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:10.279
back to the old school. Yeah, I can say that because I don't

1061
01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:15.520
know that I've paid any attention since
since the change over. I I'm a

1062
01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:18.520
Randy the macho man, savage guy
living in the stone cold Steve Austin world.

1063
01:26:18.920 --> 01:26:24.079
Actually even he's probably long since done
right, Yeah, yeah, I

1064
01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:28.239
double dated world. There we go, all right? Yeah, say they?

1065
01:26:28.359 --> 01:26:32.279
Yeah? And I'm an Undertaker fan. Oh nice, But I like

1066
01:26:32.439 --> 01:26:38.880
old classic Undertaker with Paul Bear and
Paul Bear that's one of our heroes we

1067
01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:43.680
lost this year. But but doesn't
the Undertaker still wrestle? I think frequently.

1068
01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:45.640
I mean he's getting old, dude, He's not getting old, He's

1069
01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:49.600
gotten old. He's old old,
not chasing him old, tackled him and

1070
01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:53.199
pit him to the ground. Is
going, why do you keep hitting yourself?

1071
01:26:53.399 --> 01:26:57.960
When do you keep hitting yourself?
Old? Is slender Man? Well

1072
01:26:58.159 --> 01:27:00.319
yeah, so, well thanks for
writing in. We we know. Don't

1073
01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:04.520
don't be too upset with us.
We're just trying to keep the nostalgia alive.

1074
01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:10.159
Oh my god. And also puns
and she likes wrestling. Gentlemen,

1075
01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:15.359
start your engines. Got a got
a couple from Peyton. Bob, Oh

1076
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:17.720
hi, Bob. I was supposed
to write you an email, but then

1077
01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:21.000
I went to Colorado. Whoops a
daisy on me. But you're gonna.

1078
01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:26.159
I'm gonna. I'm gonna write you
because we're pen pals. So I haven't

1079
01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:30.520
forgotten, nor have I ignored.
I am just poorly organized. Jesus can

1080
01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:33.720
I there's just just gonna be a
part of every podcast where I make apologies

1081
01:27:33.720 --> 01:27:41.079
for all the ship I didn't do. Yeah wait, instead, just to

1082
01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:44.279
save time, can there just be
a tone? We'll now be playing the

1083
01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:53.079
Dave Stecco apology tone boop rather head
of your apology. Oh man, bring

1084
01:27:53.159 --> 01:27:56.840
it, Bob, Bob says,
Iggorzill, truly a great tree, but

1085
01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:00.039
always talked about itself, never had
anything nice to say about anybody else.

1086
01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:04.840
Whenever someone was talking, IgG Gerzill
would interrupt. That's right. It was

1087
01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:10.199
a real pain in the ash.
Oh, because it is the Nash tree.

1088
01:28:11.800 --> 01:28:17.319
Nice all right, Bob's gonna follow
with this haymaker nice. Okay,

1089
01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:21.880
here we go. Uh So,
the Bohemian Club started a basketball team that

1090
01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:27.000
would go around the country, playing
second rate in local teams for charity's sake

1091
01:28:27.039 --> 01:28:42.000
and pompous bragging rights. They were
the Bohemian Grove Trotters. It's getting great,

1092
01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:46.520
oh man, thanks Bob, Bob
Dave, even though you've been lax

1093
01:28:46.640 --> 01:28:51.199
on your duty on of MS paint
certificate. Man, we have set a

1094
01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:56.960
place at this table, this fancy
fancy table. Well, I mean,

1095
01:28:57.039 --> 01:29:00.479
if we have a fancy table and
the fancy gett I mean, I suppose

1096
01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:05.920
that makes this fancy feast of sorts. Got a pun from Gray Cat,

1097
01:29:06.279 --> 01:29:15.520
hag, Gray Cat, Hey,
great cat like that that is not gonna

1098
01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:23.760
catch on, like trender man the
apology tone. Great Cat says, are

1099
01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:27.079
you an out of control drunk who's
tired of the social stigma that comes with

1100
01:29:27.199 --> 01:29:30.960
constantly wetting your pants in public.
Yes, then get oops. I pitched

1101
01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:39.199
him brand adult diapers and we'll make
that deluge a myth. That's fucking brilliant.

1102
01:29:40.119 --> 01:29:44.439
Holy crap, you know what.
I quit? And now now it's

1103
01:29:44.680 --> 01:29:51.119
David Flora and Gray Cats podcast and
that should catch us up from the old

1104
01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:58.319
break. Yeah. I hope you
guys had magnificent crisp mosses. I hope

1105
01:29:58.319 --> 01:30:00.279
that they were. I hope that
you focus on the birth of the Lord,

1106
01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:04.680
our God. I hope that you
took every opportunity to praise him in

1107
01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:12.079
the highest and good on earth,
goodwill towards men. Wow. I hope

1108
01:30:12.119 --> 01:30:15.279
you got and I hope you got
drunk. It didn't fight with your family.

1109
01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:23.560
Uh. Welcome to twenty fourteen Yeah
Glory photos dot Org. Go to

1110
01:30:23.680 --> 01:30:26.439
contact page, Write us, pun, write us a story, right,

1111
01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:29.920
a suggestion, whatever you want.
Oh, if you don't get an inside

1112
01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:32.199
joke, right in and ask us, we'll tell you what it is.

1113
01:30:32.319 --> 01:30:35.960
Yeah, we get pretty inside sometimes
because we're just so in love with ourselves.

1114
01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:40.600
And I apologize. We've got We've
got sixty some odd episodes that we've

1115
01:30:40.680 --> 01:30:44.520
built on and it's all just like
beginning to end. Yeah, you know

1116
01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:47.239
that we'll happily explain it and that
we when we will not have like some

1117
01:30:47.479 --> 01:30:50.680
smug ass No, oh, you
should have listened to episode twenty two.

1118
01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:54.359
We'll tell you what episode to listen
to for it. But we're not gonna

1119
01:30:54.399 --> 01:30:59.520
be like, um, we're not
gonna make it. Really you don't know,

1120
01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:02.520
shar Is. I will say this
sort of a caveat to that.

1121
01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:06.239
It's not like our explaining it is
going to make you suddenly laugh out loud.

1122
01:31:06.920 --> 01:31:14.600
We will probably at the end of
it go uh, but you're used

1123
01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:17.479
to that because you've been listening.
Go to iTunes, give us five stars,

1124
01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:21.560
give us a rating on there.
Go to Facebook. You can like

1125
01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:26.720
us on their Blowy Photos podcast.
There in YouTube, also Twitter, Twitter,

1126
01:31:26.840 --> 01:31:30.239
Blurry Underscore Photos, all this stuff. One important thing, one big

1127
01:31:30.319 --> 01:31:32.720
change for twenty fourteen. We're done. We'll stumble upon. We're done with

1128
01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:38.239
it. No thanks, we'll just
pass. We'll leave the We'll leave that

1129
01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:41.279
chick lit up there, just for
for the sake of of all the times

1130
01:31:41.319 --> 01:31:44.960
we've mentioned it. Some people will
understand what that inside jokes about. Yeah,

1131
01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:47.520
but no thanks. Yeah, moving
on, we don't want your we

1132
01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:50.600
don't. We don't want your up
up digits, right do you? So?

1133
01:31:50.920 --> 01:31:54.640
So do you know why we ask
you to do this stuff? Well,

1134
01:31:55.239 --> 01:31:57.840
I mean, not only does it
make us look awesome and legit,

1135
01:31:58.039 --> 01:32:02.000
but helps me get dates. It
actually bumps us up to the forefront of

1136
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:05.960
stuff that that we appear on.
So yeah, we have searches and and

1137
01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:12.600
iTunes searches and things like that.
The more you rate us and make us

1138
01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:16.479
look legitimate than the more we get
out there and can get this crap to

1139
01:32:16.720 --> 01:32:19.640
to people. Who gets right,
there's more people that need to know this.

1140
01:32:20.520 --> 01:32:25.920
Yeah, there are more people that
need to hear us sing oh man

1141
01:32:26.119 --> 01:32:30.960
and that get that's not done.
We were not finished with that whatsoever.

1142
01:32:31.079 --> 01:32:36.159
Uh. For this episode of Blurry
Photos, I have been fair Dave Flora,

1143
01:32:36.680 --> 01:32:41.840
Oh nice. I like that.
I am Dave, not at all

1144
01:32:41.880 --> 01:32:49.880
slender Man Stecco probably in the podcast
now, Hey, I'm sort of you

1145
01:32:50.800 --> 01:33:34.079
have and something yeah, don't eat
by. Our final letter tonight comes from

1146
01:33:34.119 --> 01:33:40.039
a longtime listener also in upstate New
York. I do hope that my advice

1147
01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:45.039
is of service to you. Hey, dare play blurry Forum. We've got

1148
01:33:45.079 --> 01:33:47.920
a question for you. See,
I've been having this trouble here lately.

1149
01:33:48.800 --> 01:33:54.439
I can't help going out tonight when
it's real dark. My people are still

1150
01:33:54.560 --> 01:34:00.079
miling about. I donned my cape, my fancy shoes, my skin tight

1151
01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:06.239
outfit, and me mental clawed gauntlets, and I just see a pretty girl.

1152
01:34:08.039 --> 01:34:10.960
No, I go up to her. I didn't say anything at all.

1153
01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:15.359
I just spit flames in her face
and grabbing boobies and then I just

1154
01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:21.239
run. I just run away.
Is there something wrong with me? Or

1155
01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:27.800
is this normal behavior for a noise
gentleman of the night like myself. None

1156
01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:30.279
of these girls, they don't seem
to want anything to do with me.

1157
01:34:31.159 --> 01:34:35.600
What am I doing wrong? Is
it the flames in their faces? Or

1158
01:34:35.760 --> 01:34:42.840
is it the grabbing? If they're
sweet, sweet dat tell them out what

1159
01:34:42.880 --> 01:34:49.119
I'm doing wrong? Sincerely, Squeezing
and Schenectady. Okay, let's try to

1160
01:34:49.199 --> 01:34:55.119
tackle this one. To begin,
it sounds like what you're describing is a

1161
01:34:55.239 --> 01:34:59.279
salt, which is illegal, and
I know that that can't be helping neither

1162
01:34:59.399 --> 01:35:03.880
you nor the girls. And what
I'm hearing is a vulnerable man. I'm

1163
01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:09.960
hearing a man who wants to reach
out in your case, and unfortunately literally

1164
01:35:10.840 --> 01:35:16.199
but you flee before any connection can
be made emotionally or legally. So what

1165
01:35:16.319 --> 01:35:21.000
I would ask you to do is
to slowly strip away these behaviors and strip

1166
01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:28.399
away these barriers you've put up between
you and emotional honesty, until finally you're

1167
01:35:28.479 --> 01:35:32.800
left with just a skin tight suit
of your skin. Doesn't that feel better?

1168
01:35:33.479 --> 01:35:39.359
Then, instead of reaching out and
assaulting a woman, maybe you reach

1169
01:35:39.439 --> 01:35:44.319
out verbally with a hello, how
do you do? And instead of fire,

1170
01:35:44.640 --> 01:35:47.359
breathe kindness in their face. And
the best news of all is it's

1171
01:35:47.399 --> 01:35:53.760
completely legal to touch anyone emotionally.
So next time, say hello, and

1172
01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:58.119
don't run away before someone can say
hello back. And above all us,

1173
01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:04.000
please stop assaulting people in the night. Supert

