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Hello, everybody, This is Daniel
the Ballbuses radio show podcast, Roko TV

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Channel, Josh TV Channel, and
Rumble Channel. Tonight, it's late,

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I know, but the great thing
about these videos is that they're there for

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whenever you have an opportunity to watch
them. Today is the first day of

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a month long series on Waco,
being that this is a thirty year anniversary

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and thirty years ago we were shown, although we didn't recognize what we were

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looking at, the very blatant evidence
all that we needed to see to understand

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that we are not in the constitutional
Republic, number one, and that the

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Constitution itself bill of rights do not
exist in the sense that they have not

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been practiced, they have not been
filed, they've not been even considered,

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but completely ignored, only used when
it's convenient to push along some other agenda.

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And we will throughout the course of
this little it's going to be a

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multi multi part series because this is
a really big moment and it should have

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been the thing that you know,
got people up and off their butts.

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We shouldn't have had needed a nine
to eleven for that. And be sure

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as heck didn't get much of a
response out of human beings after that either

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except for patriotic ones for a country
that had just attacked itself so that it

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could push us into a war that
favored a certain little group. So we're

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gonna go ahead and go over this, but I want you to please take

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a pen and paper, and when
you're watching this, see if you can

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identify three elements that you never heard
of before, and if you have heard

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of them, did you remember them
until just now, Because a lot of

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people still have this idea in their
head that the Branch Davidians are some kind

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of a cult, even though they've
been around since like nineteen fifty five,

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and that Vernon Howell or David Koresh
was somehow a bad guy. And that's

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not true either. None of the
things that we're spoken about them were true.

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They were actually said by a demented
man who was kicked out of their

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church, their home because they said
he was it was misconduct. They didn't

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really get into details on that,
but he has a demented little little freak

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show, and he told his revenge. His retaliation was telling the authorities that

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Vernon was a child molester, a
wife beater, an abuser, hoarding machine

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guns, all this, all this, anything he could say to get them

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attacked or to get Vernon in trouble, but it went a little bit more

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than overboard than that. His little
personal gripe ended up given the fuel to

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the fire. Unfortunately, that's a
not a intended to be a pun there.

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And seventeen children, maybe it was
twenty five children, an awful lot

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of people upwards to in the eighties
murdered, murdered in cold blood. And

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there is a certain aspect to this
too that you should be listening to.

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When people did come out, they
never they never were seen again. There

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was a different, you know,
block from the cameras side of the building.

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We were allegedly about twenty five people
came out with their arms up and

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they were mowed down, mowed down, And you might ask yourself, why

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would that happen? Until you understand
what the nature of our government truly is,

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and hopefully through the course of this
show, this one part and then

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the parts that follow it, begin
to understand where we actually live and what

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this world actually is. And it
might not be very comfortable for people,

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but it is what it is,
and knowing what to be mindful of might

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save your butt someday. So let's
go ahead and take a look at The

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first video is going to come from
my favorite channel on bit shoot. I

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don't know if you can see that. Let me go ahead and change it.

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Bag, No you can't, Okay, let's go ahead and do that.

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And this is the Hour of the
Time by bit Shoot. Bill is

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his name, which I thought was
great, And we're gonna get into this

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video first, and he had he
plays Day fifty one, the Truth about

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Waco in the video. It's VHS
and either the tracking was impossible to fix

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or someone just decided not to.
But it's very wavy, but it's super

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super important. So you're not just
gonna see a like a like a still

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screen for too long. Because bit
shoot Bill had found the actual tape or

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or the archive or whatever and he
was able to let us see the video.

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And then he goes back to the
broadcast. When Bill talks again,

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there might be some music if I'll
try to cut it out so you can

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just get to the point here.
And this is really really important. Listen,

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watch write down notes. This part
is going to really open your eyes

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if you haven't launched this before.
On the following part to this, because

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I don't want to do both the
same night. But we're going to get

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into Linda Thompson's video Waco the Big
Lie and Waco the Big Lie two where

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she follows up on the first one. But we're gonna start with this one.

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This is episode sixteen fifty two,
originally broadcast September first, nineteen ninety

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nine. All right, we're doing
this because April nineteenth was the end of

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the siege. It was day fifty
one. It was the day, first

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day of the Feast of Moloch,
if that means anything, if it's just

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whatever day before Hitler's birthday, which
happens to be my mother's birthday. But

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let's go ahead and just watch this, and then I'm going to take it

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to a different direction because there's a
very interesting old interview with Bill Cooper that

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lays everything out, and that should
be part of either this one or the

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next. I'm not sure how long
it'll be both um, because it's like

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two hours long. And there's also
a video and I'll just skip over to

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that real quick. Initiates of the
flame, and that one is important.

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There's many different important videos that we
need to watch here in this series,

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and the rear interview is dot with
doctor Stanley Monteith. I don't know half

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its on his show and half its
on Bill's show, and uh yeah,

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let's go ahead and get this done. That went from ninety three. So

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that was during the siege. Because
this is why March Right it ended in

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April February twenty eighth. This one
started February twenty eighth. This one,

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they first started shooting at innocent people
and children in April nineteenth. Fifty one

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days later they finally ended up murdering
everybody. They're planning it the whole time,

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you'll see in this video. This
video is very, very very incriminating

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for the scumbag United Nations people who
pretend to be the alcohol, tobacco and

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firearms and the FBI. All those
agencies are not government agencies of any US

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constitutional government. There's something very different
and they are not here for our benefit.

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I'm William Cooper. Good evening,
ladies and gentlemen. For those of

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you on the Internet, go to
harvest dastrust dot org and you'll see that

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apparently there were some some of the
entity at our new server company. They

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have completely deleted two years of work, countless thousands of hours sitting in front

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of computers in putting data and creating
one of the largest websites on the Internet

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is now gone, disappeared, destroyed, not to mention the accountless thousands and

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thousands of dollars that we put into
it. So two years, thousands of

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hours of work and thousands and thousands
of dollars down the tube with the stroke

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of a key on a computer board, go through our old website, Harvest

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dash trust dot org and read the
story for your stuff. That's all I

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can tell you. Tonight, you're
gonna hear the soundtrack from day fifty one,

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the true story of Waco. So
pay attention, folks, and once

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again we might learn something. Oh
you've got a problem with the soundtrack,

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and I'm gonna try to fix that. Sorry, hooks, I don't know

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what's wrong, but I'll find out
and be right back. Okay, folks,

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we got effects. Just let me
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and then we'll go. And that'll
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least hope. Okay, here we
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men involved in our situation here,
Carmel, But I am really considered about

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the lives of my brethren. Ear
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lives of all those of this world. It'll pick up here in a second.

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All the remains to day of the
Ranch Davidian Church home near Wigo,

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Texas is a pile of rubble,
and a lot of financier questions did not

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have to end that way. A
man is so impatient and then thinks he's

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so intelligent, he tries to outdo
God. But what the people did not

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understand is that they were fighting God. And if you read Times too,

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you'll find out that God is laughing
at people that think they have won the

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wall. It's his wall, and
he'll finish anybody who has met any of

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us Davidians. Fresh Davidians has said, when we meet you, we see

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how intelligent, how honest, how
which is what you're like. And that's

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not the picture that's been painted in
the media of what we are at all.

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They said, cults, you know, and you've seen a picture of

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a building, and pictures have been
painketed in your minds about who we were

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and what we were and what we
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People said we were we were brainwashed, we were mind control. Those things

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were not true at all. We
were all there studying the Bible because we

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could see that David had something to
teach that nobody else did. The Branch

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Davidian doctrine is often misunderstood, and
it was over a difference of interpretation of

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the Book of Revelations that let its
founder turn out to leave the Seventh day

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Adventist Church. We believe that the
Bible, in its entirety, from the

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Book Genesis all the way through the
Book of Revelation, including some books that

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were not included in the King James
Bible, are all prophetic and they all

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point to the times that we're coming
to today. He moved his followers from

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Los Angeles to Waco, Texans in
nineteen thirty five, purchased property near Lake

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Waco and established the Mount Carmel Center. This original property is later sold and

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the church moved to a location about
twelve miles east of Waco. They believed

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the return of Christ's imminent. In
nineteen fifty nine, about nine hundred church

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members gathered here at the new Mount
Carmel to await the Second Coming, and

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this rare interview. Ranch Davidian spokesman
Dudley Gough explained the biblical basis for their

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religious beliefs. The purpose in his
gathering all nations there too battle is that

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he might pread the land so that
he can set up his kingdom, so

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that his people might return and set
up his kingdom in compliance or in fulfillment

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of the prophecy of Daniel two forty
four, where the Lord says he's going

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to set up his kings down in
the last day. That particular prophecy is

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is brought out on this small truck. Like mainstream partisan theology, the Branston

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Vidians do not believe there will be
a rapture of the Church. They believe

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Christians will dure the tribulation suffer persecution
for their faith. The Image to pieces

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and Daniel said that this stone is
God's kingdom. Lets set up in the

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days these of these kings that are
represented by the toads. We have come

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down to the tour's time in the
seat of the image. It would be

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divided. Daniel so hardy he saw
actual what would act, and he was

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told in Daniel twin Daniel and Revelation
are two books that go Auntie Ant after

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the death of Victor Haldith in nineteen
fifty five. Church Later ship went to

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Benjamin and Lars Rodin, but over
the years their numbers slowly dwindled away,

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and Vernon Howell, who later changed
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the scene in nineteen eighties. Many
thought it was signed. It is best.

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That's why everything he tried he did. He made it an effort and

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let us no kid about us.
And he was from the beginning, from

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Palestine up until the time when saw
the big houses, he was always improving

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our life, always trying to help
her. They've been moving sold except Christianity.

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I challenged them to show me the
Seven Seals of Revelation four to five.

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And if they can't do it,
then I show them and if they're

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honest, they'll see it. Like
many survivalist groups today, the Branch Davidians

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began to prepare for the coming persecution. They purchased weapons for self defense and

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stored food supplies to sustain them.
A lot of people vilified the French Davidiants

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because they had a lot of food
to had a lot of ammol. They

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were sort of separatists, survivalist waiting
for armageddon, and you know why you

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might not want that sort of first
of the next word to you. There's

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really nothing wrong with it. There's
nothing that legal about it. There's nothing.

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When a disgruntled church member more was
expelled for improper conduct, he went

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to the authorities with fabricated stories of
child molesting and weapons collations. I am

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having sex with underage girls and molesting
sort and so forth. Was something that

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was cooked up by members who were
booted out for immoral behavior and the FBI

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and the AGF and so he was
a good excuse to do what they did

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out of Mount Carmel. The Bureau
of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms was originally

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established to collect taxes for the US
Treasure Department. Today their mission at the

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disarming of the American civilian population.
Therefore, the French Davidian Church near Waco

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became a target for extermination. Brench
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on a Vietcong village, maybe even
more Curious about newspaper articles that had just

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been released. In a display of
flagrant disregard, the wait Goold Tribune Herald

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began running a series of reports out
the Brench Davidians in the same day of

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the atf assault. Equally curious in
the fact that it was the undercover agent,

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Robert Rodriquez, who brought copies of
the newspaper to Mount Carmel that very

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much tapers were brought in in the
morning. I Robert and I was down.

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I came down there when he was
showing them to the different people that

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were down there, and I read
a little bit about it. But then

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the mentor, one of the men
went out and got some of the papers

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and brought the back. And a
little later I came back down and picked

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a paper up to bring it up
to my room and to read it completely.

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And I noticed they two cattle cars
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and I ran upstairs read paper.
I thought the men were going to

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do something with that. I went
upstairs to and the attackle Mount Carmel began.

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After I gotten upstairs it I heard
three helicopters. The reason I know

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they were her because I looked out
the window to say where they were they

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were doing, and they were firing
on us where the search warn't questionable legality.

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Agents of the Bureau of Alcohol to
back when our arms launched a raid

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on the branch of Indian Church Hall
was Sunday morning, February twenty eight,

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nineteen ninety three, and Ktherine Matelli
was absolutely positive that the government agents fired

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the first shots. I saw her
and I heard and they were I was

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in the back of the building,
that's where my room was, and they

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were firing toward David's room, and
they turned, and when they turned,

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I was I fell to the floor
because I could see that those bullets could

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have hit me in our standing.
So they went to the front of the

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building, and it seemed like when
they got in the front. By the

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time they got to the front,
they were firing in and so all the

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others were firing and questions further about
her observations that day, Catherine was adamant.

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She was searching of what she saw
and heard. Definitely, they were

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the only ones I heard and saw
at the time that they were coming in

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the helicopter. There no one else
firing. Questioned separately, Another Richard's testimony

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is virtually identical to that of Katherine
Madison's. I was actually getting ready for

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worship, and I heard a noise
like her an icopter, and and then

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I heard bullets start firing, you
know, bullets start coming in from every

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direction, and the helicopters were flying
over the buildings. Was the sound that

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it was so low that at what
time I thought they at the it's really

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wills were coming from all direction.
And I heard a voice saying, get

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down. So those of us who
were there in the hallway went down on

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our and the floor in her and
her tummy, her hands and feet.

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And I looked around and I saw
children, so I took them close to

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me, and there's a baby,
a little ten year old girl was holding

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her, and I took the baby
from her, lie over and put my

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body over the babies, and that
bullet came through, it would hit me

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instead of the baby. There is
corroboration for their testimony of gunfire from the

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helicopters. It comes from one of
the Branch Davidian children who left not Carmel

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that evening and was later told by
psychologists doctor Bruce Perry, and I asked

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her, is there anything else?
She took her crown and quin and I

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asked what that was and said that
was her had to dust settle. The

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ATF began to lie and cover up
about their actions during the ray. They

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acted as though the branch Davins had
come looking for them. Problem we had,

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I don't even that we were out
and who were or out planned.

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The problem we had is that we
were outgunned. Fed up with the obvious

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lies, a young independent investigator named
ron Cole decided it was time to get

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involved. He packed his bags and
headed from Raco. After talking with eyewitnesses

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and conducting his own research, ron
Cole arrived at the obvious conclusion. He's

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in a scale model of Mount Carmel. He relates the sequence of events that

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played Sunday morning. Those people that
I are to that were in a position

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to see the helicopters indicate the helicopters
fire first, whereas those that were in

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front of the center couldn't see the
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the agents exiting the cattle thrillers.
They say the first shots came from these

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atf agens to the front. That's
why I'm saying. It seems to me

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the shots were fired from agents at
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of each other, which means there
would not have been enough time for some

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ergency code works have been used,
or for someone else inside to fire the

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first shot that would have initiated simultaneous
fire from the ground and from the air

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within seconds of each other. That
indicates to me that this was planned in

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advance. It was a frontal assault
from the ground and air support coming in

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from the back, simultaneous, pre
planned attack. In practice, Lad,

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they drilled over and over again,
and we had our plan down, had

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a diversion down. When the ATF
agents arrived at Mount Carmel, they should

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have noticed the branch lading man were
not they were expected to be. Ron

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Cole explains when the two ATF cattle
trailers pulled into the driveway from w Ranch

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Road out in front of the property, the team that was in the first

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cattle trailer, they were supposed to
exit the trailer here and go to the

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under construction Tornado shelters where they thought
most of the men would be that morning

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trying to finish up the shelters themselves. The second trailer they were supposed to

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disembark and crashed through the front door
part of the team. The other part

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of the team was to come around
the side, up these ladders and into

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what they thought was the gun room, and another small part of that second

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cattle trailer team. They were supposed
to go and suppress the dogs, either

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with the fire extinguisher or, if
need be, the gunshots. In fact,

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so far the testament has come out
of the trial is that the opening

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shots may fact had been fired by
ATF agents at the cattle trailers. When

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David Koresh saw the ATF agents palling
out of the cattle traders, he opened

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the front door and made an attempt
to stop the attack. I opened the

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front door, and they were running
up. Of course, you know their

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tactical expertise. They've got their guns
aimed everything. They started hollering, you

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know, all of them, Holly
know what they were saying. And I

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was already hollering. I was saying, you know, go away. You

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know, I was hollering, and
go away. There's women and children here,

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let's talk. They started firing at
me, and so what happened was

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is that I stepped back in the
doors and bullet already coming to the door.

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And so they happen when some of
the some of the heeman in and

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stuff started to sign on him.
Coloresh's version of attack was later confirmed by

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Brad brentch and a phone call from
them Clemmon County Jail. When they jumped

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down, they would open the door
and put his hand out and now women

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and child in here before started hitting
the door and off through the player and

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that's why rammed the door branch.
Navidian were killed during the attack. Among

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them was Australian born Peter Jim who
was working inside the old water tower and

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simply looked out to see what was
going on. Peter Jet was shot here

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on top of the water tower while
he was working cleaning out the inside of

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the water tower. He came to
the top level that he had built.

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He'd built several levels so he could
clean out the inside of it from top

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to bottom, and when he poked
up over the top level that he was

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shot. David Koresh's father in law, Harry Jones, was standing behind him

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when he opened the front door.
Jones took several bullets and for Korash and

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died about an hour later. The
child's testimony to doctor Perry concerning the holes

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with dods that she drew in the
room corroborate with when a lot of other

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people that were in there set including
Katherine Madison and Dick de Garrett. Dick

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de Garon was interviewed by Diane saw
Your ABC Prime Time. He stated in

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the interview that he clearly saw the
ceiling as it appeared looked quote an unquote

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like was cheese, because it had
holes all in it from mullets fired through

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the only way obviously, these bullet
holes to be in the ceiling from them

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through the roof. And I'm helicopter
fired and I've talked to David Jones's a

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little six year old daughter, and
I as her, what did you do

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on February twenty eight what happened?
She said that bullets to coming through the

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roof and she ran and hid under
her bed, and her brother who was

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he was older than her, ran
down the hall and to the stairwell.

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As a matter of fact, Winston
Blake, who was one of the killed

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inside of Mount Carmel on the first
day, he was found with the bullet

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hole through the top of his head
and he was still holding a piece of

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first coast. I was defied,
but I heard pollips coming because it was

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like, you know, it strightening
you hear the bullets coming in. You

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don't know why we're how There were
nothing you could do, you know,

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straightening. Nobody had any time to
prepare for any team. It was just

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so sudden. The last shooting that
day occurred around seven Pelman were recorded by

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the news media in this manner A
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tonight, there was more gunfire.
Three members of the cult came out of

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the compound, firing at atf agents. One of the members was killed,

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another was taken into custody, and
the third was That news report was a

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complete love compound. Once again,
ron Cole sets the record straight. As

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an initial flight. Schroeder, Bob
Kendrick, and Norman Allison were not inside

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Mount Carmel Center in the morning of
Boy twenty eighth when the raid took place.

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All three of them were at the
Magbag several miles away when they heard

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about them in the radio. They
made the decision after hearing about the raid,

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to try to get back home.
I Schroeder had his wife his baby

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boy inside. Nobody knew who was
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Mike Schroeder attempted a mad dash from
off the property, trying to get

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over this fence into the paint shop
on Mount Carmel Unfortunately, he was seen

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by a special agent, Daryl Dyer, who had his outposts set up since

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before the raid and the hay burn
off the property. Mike ran towards this

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fence and although he was unarmed,
well he was armed with nothing but a

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stun gun. Darryl Dyer emptied his
thirty round submachine gun magazine into Mike,

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striking him seven times in the back. Agent Dyer fired one burst at him,

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but somehow Mike kept on struggling,
got about ten feet from the property,

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lying here and where you see these
sections cut off of this tree as

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where his body rest for several days
where they sought fit to remove him.

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The official reason for the raid on
Mount Carmel was a search for illegal weapons

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and arrest David Koresh. However,
as it turns out, most of the

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guns were not even there. We
did have somewhat of a collection, but

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the weapons were never intended to Paul
Vada, who worked people gus shows all

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over Texas and he ended up at
Mount Carmel. Boom, in fact,

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was responsible for most of the gun
purchases through the magnet that he rented out

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On February twenty eight, that morning, while the raid took place. He

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was at a gun show in Austin
with his son, along with most of

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the weapons that the ATA come there. Two seeds. There was a business

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that David was conducting selling fires.
Paul Foda and David Koresh sold guns and

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other merchandise at gun shows, as
do many gun dealers. This was a

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perfectly legitimate enterprise and gave David Koresh
a chance to talk to people about his

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religious books. I met a guy
at one time, real briefly a gun

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show a couple of years ago.
I was passing out flyers and he wanted

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to talk guns in the Bible.
So the ATF wasn't looking for Bibles when

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they rated Mount Carmel, but they
should have known that most of the guns

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were in Boston with Paul Fota.
The ATF had an undercover house across the

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street, one hundred yards away from
the front door McConnel center that they had

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that play center surveillance twenty four hours
a day every day for weeks prior to

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the February twenty eighth grade. And
they had to be aware of the fact

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that Paul was working these gun shows. And it seems to me unless They're

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completely ignorant of reality. They ought
to have been able to see from one

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hundred yards away. Paul Leading to
go to this gun show, and after

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weeks of surveillance and several of these
shows, should have figured out that the

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vast majority of those weapons would not
have even been there. The guns may

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not have been the only thing the
ATF was looking for. Jeff Little,

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West an analyst, a computer analyst
for Yamaha America's headquarters in Winna Park,

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California, and Ranch Davidians Jeff Little
and Wayne Martin had been conducting their own

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investigation of the ATF using computers located
inside Mount Carmel. I think that the

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possibilities for Jeff Little and Wayne Martin
to have been able to tap into information

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concerning the ATF for any other part
of the federal government would be very high.

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I saw some information they were collecting
information on all of the ATF activities

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over those last several years. In
April of nineteen ninety one, after Operation

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Desert Storm, Marine Corps fast sea
lift vessels returned to Port Arthur, Texas,

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A ship's officer who refused an interview
and does not wish to be identified,

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says that his ship's cargo hold was
full of helicopters. Concealed inside the

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helicopters were thousands of weapons confiscated from
captured Iraqi soldiers. These helicopters with the

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weapons inside, were then loaded onto
flatbed rail cars and shift to Fort Sill,

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Oklahoma. It is believed that these
firearms are intended for distribution to American

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street games, which are currently being
converted by police agencies into law enforcement units.

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The weapons, of course, would
not be traceable. These games,

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working with the ATF, will be
used to enter civilian homes to confiscate weapons.

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Is it possible that Jeff Little and
Wayne Martin accessed classified government computer files

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to a back door and had obtained
this information. Yeah. I think that

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it's very possible that there could have
been some kind of information that they had

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on the computer inside the building there
that information the ATF did not want to

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get out, and I think they
seem to be awfully anxious to get into

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that one window that they that everyone
saw them going into, and there's a

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possibility that might have been something besides
guns. They were after evening settled in

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over the dark hills of Central Texas
and the long seeds began fifty one days

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to terre on fifty one days of
darkness, of hope and frustration, and

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all of America lived through it.
Never before in the history of law enforcement

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had so many personnel you so much, ever for so little reason. Search

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warrant primarily listed conversion kids which may
have altered an eight or fifteen assault rifle

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which might have been installed by the
branch's Davidians, which could have created an

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illegal machine gun. To make such
a crimregal, eighteen hundred dollars tax must

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be paid, and therefore the ATF
and FBI ultimately spent seven million dollars in

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order to collect two hundred bucks that
if the police leave David Koresh was a

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vicious criminal, guilty of kidnapping,
rape, murder, and all sorts in

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his crimes. No, they did
not, And in County, Chef Jack

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Farwell knew David of the first named
basis, and in nineteen eighty seven,

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following a shootout with George Rowden,
had arrested David and searched the property without

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incident. Americans everywhere sat in the
comment of their whole watched the drama unfold.

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They witnessed the trampling of the Constitution
and the Bill of Right. Those

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who seek to control guns will also
try to control people. Those who control

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the mass's care not for the laws
of innocent men, women, and children.

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Standoff at Mount Carmel gradually evolved into
a surreal cosmic struggle between good and

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evil, freedom and slavery, free
will and tyranny NEOs Day Monday, March

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one, Dog, clear and bright. However, a radio show host in

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Dallas, Ron Englan, refused to
how the official government line and took up

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the cause of the Branch Davidiants.
Guys out there, and then I'll give

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you that book thereagreements. I'm gonna
give you both library to standoff and teas

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in Waco to see agds. Radio
personality wants to take a van into the

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compound with two surgeons to treat any
wounded Branch Davidians. And we're treating these

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people. Listen, we treat prisoners
for prisoners of war. Get medical attention.

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Nobody has received medical attention in there. You're not answering the question.

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You're talking around and just answered affected
to you. Okay, then you don't

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believe why did they kill Randy Weaver's
wife? Why didn't go Randy Weaver's eteen

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year old son by shooting him in
the back four times. Our government has

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put a mock the FBI, the
added ridicularly the game that's the product the

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first article. They says in the
art gol they have a fifty caliber machine

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gun. They've never been able to
find a fifty caliber machine gun. I'm

408
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just saying, what the at IT
was illegal? Why are they? Why

409
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are they coming into our sad by
the way they're coming in here and just

410
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acting like a bunch of renegades.
The entire branch depenions where hostages of the

411
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:58.320
ATF. They didn't surrender, they
were leaving their homes. Ron Ingelman was

412
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outraged over the attack on the peaceful
religious community. Our phone numbers ninety see

413
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he was under way, and Ron
wanted to fill on four of her mental

414
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values are at Monday morning, I
decided I'm gonna tear him a new ass.

415
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:15.000
The AF I got to work Monday
morning. On my way to work,

416
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.920
guy listening to his position on the
ATF started up a lively debate,

417
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:23.079
and Ron Engelman became the target of
much criticism from the establishment. Pross,

418
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:28.760
you were critical of Ron that we
didn't think you should get involved in that

419
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:32.920
part of the process that you could
have caused, said David Koresh, all

420
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of it somewhere another. Throughout that
first Sunday evening, when some of the

421
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French Davidian children were Since's in exchange
for the FBI, allowing a message from

422
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David Koresh to be broadcast over valostation
k r ldomti Fi my God, since

423
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on the throne Heaven has given me
a book of seven seals. In Revelation

424
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ten, verse seven of this sealed
book, the Mystery of God, it

425
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:02.360
is to be finished. David Koresh
believed, as to all of the Ranch

426
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:07.800
Davidians to this day, that they
were at the fifth seal, and the

427
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:13.159
fifth seal meant that there was going
to be something. Something was going to

428
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happen to those that believe in God
at that night as he was able to

429
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:27.679
broadcast and give messages over the radio. In order for him to do that,

430
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:34.719
he would have to make force two
or three children to leave their home,

431
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:39.320
to leave their parents and go into
the custody of the same people that

432
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had just killed a number of those
inside, had wounded, a number of

433
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:50.000
those inside, had terrorized everyone inside, and had now had the place surrounded,

434
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:54.559
and these little children were forced to
leave their home and go into the

435
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:59.400
hands of those people. I don't
know if I would allow my child to

436
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.000
do that. On day three of
the Seeds, Tuesday, March the second,

437
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:07.719
David Koresh set a tape out with
Katherine Madison. Their agreement was they

438
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.480
would all come out if the tape, a fifty eight minute sermon, was

439
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:15.400
broadcast on radio stations during prime time. They were supposed to play the tape

440
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:20.119
at prime time. Now, now
that could have meant two different things.

441
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:24.039
Prime time or drivetime on radio would
be like from four to six in the

442
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:29.559
evening. Prime time on television would
be like from seven o'clock till ten o'clock

443
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or in o'clock till eleven o'clock.
And that's when they wanted to take play.

444
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:36.440
The tape was actually played at one
thirty in the afternoon. And there's

445
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:39.239
every possibility in the world that they
were not listening to the tape or listening

446
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:43.960
to the radio when the tape was
played, and therefore never knew that the

447
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:46.039
tape was played. That may be
one of the reasons they didn't come out.

448
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:51.599
The branch Davidians did not leave Mountain
Carnal. Following the broadcast of David

449
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:57.480
Koresh's sermon, the FBI said that
David headlong to the new but later Sheila

450
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:00.320
Martin told us the actual reason are
not coming out. It's one of the

451
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:05.599
reasons day stay. Did he knew
that the land would become ours? Pretty

452
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.159
clear of my understanding? Isn't honorable
out March twenty second, nineteen eighty eight,

453
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:15.559
Wago judge issued a verbal order that
the branch Davidians must occupy the seventy

454
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seventh acre pot of land continuously for
a period of five years, then it

455
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:25.519
would become legally theirs. Five year
period would not expire for another twenty days.

456
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Inside Mount Carmel were about one hundred
people. They represented a diverse racial

457
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:37.480
and cultural mix of nationalities involved there
for one purpose only two study the by

458
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:43.400
letter. We were trying to live
in community like the early apostles, did

459
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.119
you know, sharing all things,
having things in contents? Why we lived

460
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:51.440
together as a family? You know, like Christ said to the people of

461
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:53.159
his day, who are my brother
and my sisters? Too much? And

462
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.119
mother? Because that are with me, that follow me and do what I

463
00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:00.400
say. Their leader, of course, was David Coach. Contrary to what

464
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:06.360
the FBI told us, David never
claimed to be Jesus Christ. The people

465
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:10.000
inside Mount Carmel followed him because they
believed he was a prophet having great skill

466
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:14.840
in teaching the Bible. We liked
being there when we had the lawn stays.

467
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:17.000
It's because we were just having fun
and long studies. We were just

468
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:20.840
something that was a combination of a
lot of things. It wasn't that we

469
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:22.760
sat there all the time. We
would have breaks. We'd go off and

470
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:27.280
check on the children and see what
things we're gonna fix for breakfast, and

471
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then we'll come back and you know, normal things that it's appeared to people.

472
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But when you like something, you're
gonna sit there and you don't mind

473
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.400
it. Many times we'd one o'clock
or two o'clock in the morning, you

474
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:37.440
say, you know, it's getting
late, and we're sitting on all those

475
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:43.559
all right, And he would take
us in such a high never I couldn't

476
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:49.760
follow him. I liked the scientistic
you know anything signed tiftic fling. He

477
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:57.599
went into it, seeks about space, thinks about just anything. He hit

478
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:01.239
every subject that was and he could
give you a knowledge of hout it you

479
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:07.599
would never learn anywhere else. Vernon
Hall thinks he's the Lamb of God when

480
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:12.519
all he is is a chief thug
interprets the Bible. Whatever you may think

481
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:16.440
of David Koresh, just remember that
your opinion was established by the FBI,

482
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:22.119
which had a commendous stake in villain
us. Will the person who who follow

483
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:28.920
true religion follow a ministry. Persons
who follow a cultic leader follow a man,

484
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.840
a messenger, a person, and
could be extream. Religious leaders such

485
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:39.119
as doctor Jerry Folwell joined the government's
critical view of David Koresh. My main

486
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:45.360
object was following truth. That was
not following a person their their religious belief.

487
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:49.920
That that's their belief. I mean
each person religion is his own fitness.

488
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.280
I mean just like each person politics
he is. I mean those who

489
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:58.159
live near Mount Carmel, such as
Walter Duloch, proprietar of a grocery store

490
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.400
in elk knew the branch Vidians and
had no problem with them. Yeah,

491
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:05.519
there's one guy just felt wooden Roll
Kendrick that they got charged with murder.

492
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:07.360
Why he does ros store that they
running here on a charge account with he

493
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.599
do it there wasn't nothing wrong with
that guy. I mean, you know,

494
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:12.559
I don't know about his personal life, but I mean, to me,

495
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:16.039
he was just a this average guy
walks in store. It is true

496
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:20.960
that David Koresh had children by some
of the other women at Mount Carmel.

497
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:27.639
Our investigation finds the charges of child
abuse were false. There were several previous

498
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:32.320
state investigations which also failed to produce
any evidence of abuse, and the case

499
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:37.880
was officially closed on April the thirtieth, nineteen ninety two. We had no

500
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:45.320
evidence, so it was a very
frustrating time for us talk about this uh

501
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:50.519
sex business there. I mean,
U with the underage girls. I don't

502
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:52.920
know what that's true. Effect to
was that's just uh. I mean,

503
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:55.639
you know, all I know is
what I read in the papers on TV

504
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:00.679
and the child protective agencies was the
Shibal Times, and they couldn't find nothing

505
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:02.400
wrong. So, I mean,
you know, I don't know what to

506
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:07.440
you know, where all where all
this stuff comes from. The siege wore

507
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:13.199
on and all communication with the outside
world was cut off. A caller to

508
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:17.760
Ron Engelman's talk show suggested the Branch
Davidians move their satellite dish as an indication

509
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:22.000
they were listening. If they're listening, move the satellite dish, he said.

510
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.159
I think it's on Galaxy six,
he said, ask them if they're

511
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:28.599
listening, to move the satellite dish
to Galaxy one. The compound's phone lines

512
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:31.599
have been diverted for a week,
keeping David Corsh from the attention he apparently

513
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:37.039
craves, but an FBI ban on
contact with the media isn't keeping talk show

514
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.719
host Ron Engelman from trying to reach
the cult leader. Tuesday morning, he

515
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:44.920
asked compound members over the air to
move their satellite dish if they were listening

516
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:47.199
to him, and about two minutes
later, Keim comes back on the phone

517
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:51.400
and says the dish moved. They're
listening to you. Then a caller to

518
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:54.519
engelman show suggested a more visible sign. If they put a weird flag out

519
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:59.760
that second story window or something,
it's gonna get somebody's attention. Shortly afternoon,

520
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.559
white flag appeared at the second floor
window and stayed there for half an

521
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:08.519
hour. The branch Davidians and David
Koresh do want communications with us. They

522
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:12.239
want me in there, they want
the surgeon. In a later phone call,

523
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:16.159
Brench Davidian member David Timodeau told how
it felt to realize that someone was

524
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:20.400
trying to contact them. Run it
up and down the halls, going they're

525
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:24.039
listening, moved to satellite. This
It was very it was a very high

526
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:29.519
moment. It was very exciting.
I just remember everybody's being so overwhelmed with

527
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:34.360
joy that someone was listening. You
know, that someone that we could communicate

528
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.000
somehow to people. They'd cut it
off. The longer they negotiate, the

529
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:43.039
more of the people can come out. Koresh, I don't know. He's

530
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:50.239
strongly delusionary, very paranoid, probably
sociopathic. He's locked in. I don't

531
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.800
know if they'll get him out or
not. Okay, correct, From the

532
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:57.239
very first day, the news media
deliberately sought out only those persons with ill

533
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:01.719
feelings towards the Branch Davidians and David
rah in particular. All that time,

534
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:07.119
living right here in Waco was a
gentleman who was not prejudiced and knew them

535
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:12.199
well. I am Dewey Malay.
I am an atropathic doctor. I have

536
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:16.039
lived in Waco about six and a
half years. About five years ago I

537
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:23.440
had some Branch Davidians come to me
for nutritional health, and they became my

538
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:28.320
patience as it were. And of
course when the event happened, I,

539
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:31.559
you know, I said, my
goodness, I started putting things together and

540
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:37.719
here all these people who are being
attacked, and they are just those people

541
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.039
are just like any other human beings. A lot of them had jobs outside

542
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:45.920
of Mount Carmel. A lot of
people didn't know that they like David Jones.

543
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:52.320
Maryville's son was a maleman and he
had obviously an outside job, and

544
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.760
they tied their money. They either
tied ten or twenty percent of their money

545
00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:01.480
to the church. Doctor Dewey Malay. He believes the media is heavily influenced

546
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:06.599
by government, almost to the point
of actual control. People look at this,

547
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:08.360
have got to look at television say
now, why are they telling me

548
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:13.719
this? Is this a lie?
And that will go a long way to

549
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:16.920
educate the American people of knowing how
to watch the news. People ask me,

550
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:21.639
why watch Dan rather Good. I
like to see what he's telling the

551
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:24.480
American people. Why is he telling
me this? And nine times out of

552
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:29.760
ten there's an agenda behind it.
They're going to do something to us or

553
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:32.320
for us in some way. We're
not going to be too happy about if

554
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:37.639
the American people just get smart and
watch the news. They can't. They

555
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.039
can't trust them at all. We
saw what they did here at Mount Carmel.

556
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:46.159
It was just incredible. We had
We watched the press conference every day

557
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:52.440
and most generally we were found that
they contradict themselves. Are they told no

558
00:50:52.840 --> 00:51:05.559
lie atf agents attempted to arrest ahead
of the cult a thirty three year old

559
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.519
man who claims to be Christ.
He's been described as a beer drinking guitar

560
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:14.480
player with fifteen wives. Claims to
be Jesus Christ. They have home in

561
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:20.360
explocess, semi automatic and automatic weapons, hand grenades, gree scones from the

562
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:22.679
latest, of course we had was
this that there was nitroglycerin in pond.

563
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:27.599
There would be absolutely no reason in
the world to keep nitroglycerin down there.

564
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:31.159
It's ridiculous. I'd be cheerful about
just filling air when there's really nothing to

565
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:35.800
say, so you start using rumors. I imagine if they hadn't taken what

566
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:39.039
was given, they had nothing to
say. The FBI had taken control of

567
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:43.960
this scene and media was told to
pack up and move several miles away to

568
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:50.239
the roadblock and out of the side
of the Davidian come exactly. Didn't take

569
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:54.280
long for the lights to start coming
down for the miles of cables to pull

570
00:51:54.360 --> 00:52:00.840
the back. Authorities knew we didn't
want to move. The FBI said news

571
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:06.480
reporters were moved back out of concern
for their safety. What about safety for

572
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:12.159
this cameraman during the race riot the
Dallas Cowboys victory for Red Who's concerned for

573
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:15.960
the safety of this news crew in
Palestine's West Bank? Are this recent student

574
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:21.800
uprising in Paris? How about the
news crew shooting this little New World Order

575
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:27.000
police action? Aren't they in danger
of being shot at nor apparent concerned for

576
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.800
their safety police? The excuse given
by the FBI at Mount Carmel as who

577
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:36.599
concerned for the reporter's safety, was
an insult to the intelligence of the American

578
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:42.679
people. Communist Chinese government did the
same thing shortly before the massacre at Tianeman

579
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:47.440
Square. In one of the interviews
with the Chinese people over in Tenement Square

580
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:52.159
after it happened, one lady was
just sobbing and saying, what could we

581
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.039
do? They had all the guns, what could anybody do? There were

582
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:59.159
tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands
of people out there, and when the

583
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.679
and the government rolled in the tanks, it was all over. They didn't

584
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:06.239
care whether they killed those people or
not. They ran all the reporters out

585
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:09.400
so there wouldn't be any witnesses.
The same thing that they did done in

586
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:14.639
Waco in other parts of China.
All they knew was what the government was

587
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:19.280
telling them. They had heard that
these people in Tenement Square were a bunch

588
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.440
of bad people, a bunch of
revolutionaries, and as far as they knew,

589
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.239
the government did the right thing.
We were moved back to Miles and

590
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:30.559
I think the media should have protested
that that there should have been some eyes

591
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:36.440
up closer. And I said this
from the early beginning that Okay, maybe

592
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:38.559
they won't want us back there for
our own safety, but you know,

593
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:42.639
when we hired out in this job, most of us hired out and knew

594
00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:46.199
that we're going to be facing dangerous
situations from time to time, and that's

595
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:52.440
our call. Still. Although phil
record denies any government media of control,

596
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:58.199
the report of the Waco Task Force, published by the Society of Professional Journalists

597
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:05.400
shows that FBI agent Jeff Jamar reminded
radio station KRLD that he represents the government

598
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:12.159
which licenses broadcast stations. A license
is permission from the government to do something

599
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:16.960
that would otherwise be illegal. Bob
Boas as a Christian educator and professional media

600
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:22.159
observers, federal governments in a position
to control the flow of information in this

601
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:24.639
country in a way that has never
existed in and faced this earth, and

602
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:31.920
it's done through federal regulatory agencies.
The Federal Communication Commission does control what goes

603
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:37.239
out over the airways, both on
radio and television. Now there have been

604
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:44.239
instances of radio stations burning up,
of licenses not being renewed, of radio

605
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:47.440
stations and television stations being audited by
the i R as to the point they

606
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:52.440
couldn't conduct their business. And anyone
in that business, I'm not in it,

607
00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:55.679
but I'm not stupid either, And
anyone in that business that knows that

608
00:54:55.719 --> 00:55:00.639
if they go against government policy of
Washington, DC policy, they're going to

609
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.440
be in trouble. As the stress
ours are continually applied to him, he

610
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:08.199
does seem to retreat more and more. We are concerned that he's perhaps going

611
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:15.000
through a mental decompensation and that he
is in fact becoming more delusional. One

612
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:17.599
month after the deadly raid, agents
move closer to the compound, but not

613
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:22.719
to a revolution. Agents say Koresh
has prearranged suicide tacks with followers, the

614
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:28.519
same thing happened at Jonestown in Guyana
in nineteen seventy eight. He has to

615
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:31.559
be slain and there has to be
a sufficient number of martyrs. Those of

616
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:36.719
his followers also have to be slain. During the siege at Mount Carmel,

617
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:43.519
FBI agents made repeated references to Jonestown, instilling the idea of mass suicide the

618
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:52.440
minds of the American public. Anti
propaganda never changes. The median may change,

619
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:58.039
but the kinds of things that are
said about author and researcher and Mac

620
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:02.440
notes that Jim Jones and David Koresh
were both targets of the same occusations.

621
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:09.239
They generally tend to be accused of
bizarre sexual practices that the early Christians were

622
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:14.119
accused of, that as well as
an incests and other things that the Roman

623
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:21.840
public at that time found important in
our day. One way too quickly demonize

624
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:23.639
someone in the press in such a
way that they would never be able to

625
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:28.480
recover their public and each in their
credibility, is to accuse them of being

626
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:35.000
a childmaster and that was done in
Koresh's case. White has studied the Jim

627
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:38.840
Jones case for many years. He
believes that Jonestown tragedy was not a my

628
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:45.760
suicide. The FBI right after the
fire, at its press conference, said

629
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:54.199
that what had happened in Waco was
another Jonestown. Now by saying that the

630
00:56:54.599 --> 00:57:00.400
FBI has invited us to take a
closer look at Jonestown. Jim Jones wanted

631
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:05.400
absolute control over every person in that
compound, and he had it the same

632
00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:08.760
thing as going on right now with
Koresh in the compound in Waco. You

633
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:13.679
know I see. Ross is a
deep programmer for the Cult Awareness Network,

634
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:20.719
which provided ATF officials with all those
catchy phrases like child abuse, child sacrifice,

635
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:25.719
illegal weapons, slavery, threats of
mass destruction, and the alleged suicide

636
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:30.639
pack. Boils down to the history
of the Cult Awareness Network, however,

637
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:36.840
bears a closer examination. In nineteen
fifty nine for the El Castro overthrew Batista

638
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:43.119
unseized power in Cuba, almost immediately
the CIA began plotting his assassination. One

639
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:47.000
suggestion was the use of mind altering
drugs to make Castro go crazy. During

640
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:53.039
the speech, thereby losing his credibility
with the Cuban people. Operation ilk Ultra

641
00:57:53.360 --> 00:58:00.719
was initiated with the help of psychiatrists
doctors Margaret Singer and Lewis West. CIA

642
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:07.639
operative doctor Margaret Singer was the founder
of the American Family Foundation. Jones had

643
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:14.199
strong ties to the New Left of
the seventies, to persons like Huey Newton

644
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:20.400
of the Black Panthers and to Dennis
Banks of the American Indian Movement, and

645
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:29.639
his Church to the People's Temple was, by his description, a Marxist organization.

646
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:34.679
The leader of this Marxist organization,
Jim Jones, had a boyhood friend

647
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:38.679
named Dan Mutrioni, who eventually went
to work for the CIA, specializing in

648
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:45.800
brainwashing techniques. In nineteen seventy three, another CIA operator, George Blakey,

649
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:51.719
made the initial six hundred and fifty
thousand dollars deposit on the land in Guyana

650
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:57.920
which became Jonestown. At the same
time, Operation him KA Ultra began directing

651
00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:04.119
its attention on religious cults that are
than many allegations over the years that in

652
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:10.679
some way the CIA's mk Ultra program
may have been involved in what happened at

653
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:19.079
Jonestown. And perhaps in this way
Jones Worth maniculating through drugs or hypnosis.

654
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:24.679
After the tragedy of Jonestown in nineteen
seventy eight, doctor Margaret Singer's American Family

655
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:32.280
Foundation changed its name to the Cult
Awareness Network. So it's ironic that Jonestown,

656
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:37.880
which the FBI used to explain away
what happened wakel, was itself a

657
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:45.960
likely conspiracy. Nine hundred people died
in the steamy jungle of Guyana, so

658
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:50.360
a hundred more on the planes of
Central Texas wouldn't matter. When you have

659
00:59:50.559 --> 01:00:36.400
no regard for human life, numbers
are not important. I happened to be

660
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:42.360
over at the Britney Hotel. I
was seeing Catherine Madison Branch Davidian, and

661
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:47.000
after I was through visiting with her, I was downstairs talking to Rita Riddle

662
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:53.360
and the phone rang and it was
Derek Lovelock saying that he had been released

663
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:59.679
from the county jail and would somebody
come get him. Derek made it pretty

664
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:04.039
clear in his mind that the people
that were back there, none of those

665
01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:07.199
survived. They are on the east
side, away from the camera, and

666
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:13.679
there are some rumors and reports about
people seeing things that went on there.

667
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.920
We don't know how accurate that is, and we do know that the live

668
01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:23.519
footage from April nineteenth from all the
major networks did in fact they stated that

669
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:28.239
they saw twenty five to thirty survivors, and this was in fact confirmed.

670
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:30.559
What we know is on the flip
side, that there are between twenty five

671
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:36.679
and thirty survivors. We have several
witnesses that say that they saw twenty five

672
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:40.000
or thirty people exiting out these double
doors in this cafeteria. One of the

673
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:44.199
people that survived the fire and his
currently under indictment, says that he came

674
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:47.480
out that door with Jimmy Riddle that
day to escape the fire, and that

675
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:52.719
these people were gunned down in cold
blood as they tried to escape. I

676
01:01:53.000 --> 01:02:00.559
believe from what we hear, the
rumors we hear that obviously didn't go back

677
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:04.880
in the fire of their own choice, and they didn't come out of the

678
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:07.280
fire, so something had to happen
to them, and then, yeah,

679
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:12.159
I think they were murdered. Nobody
wants to admit that their government could possibly

680
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:15.159
be guilty of such a thing,
but basically I found out here over the

681
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:19.639
past five months, I have no
choice but to say that they were You

682
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:24.599
listen to his music for twenty years, I still wasn't. He's been fighting

683
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:28.960
for right to keep in their arms
as long as he's had a handgun,

684
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:36.840
since he was a kid. Ted
Nugent, I asubscribe to Ted. I

685
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:45.079
don't trust to diabet, Thank you
very much. You notice. Well,

686
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:50.960
I'm gonna just make a simple statement
here, because it's so simple. He's

687
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:57.079
Even though he disagrees with David Cooresh's
motives rock and Roller, Ted Nugent has

688
01:02:57.079 --> 01:03:04.639
a definite idea about the government's actions. There are many innocent civilians dab because

689
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:12.599
the ATF abuse their powers, got
the wrong address search with false faulty warrants.

690
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:15.920
I know this stuff, It's been
documented. Where is this investigation.

691
01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:21.000
I'd be willing to let Bill get
by with Whitewater for a while until we

692
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:24.000
find out who the murderers are in
our govern suspect. And that's what's happening.

693
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:30.239
The ATF, even the FBI,
the irs. These people work for

694
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:35.960
us. They are they are responsible
to the American people. They are not

695
01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:39.159
being responsible to the American people.
And I am deeply sad, I am

696
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:45.440
hurt. The bottom line is the
good people are an asset to America,

697
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:52.880
leave us alone. The only real
security of liberty in our country is the

698
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:59.800
jealousy and circumspection of the people themselves. Let them be watchful over their rulers.

699
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:02.559
Should they find a combination against them, they have, thank God,

700
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:08.880
the ultimate remedy. That power which
created the government can destroy it. Should

701
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:13.840
the government on trial be found to
want amendments, those amendments can be made

702
01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:18.679
in a regular method, in a
mode prescribed by the Constitution itself. I

703
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:23.760
was taught the same things that most
of you were taught. I've learned differently,

704
01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:28.000
and we all had that responsibility.
And those who died will have died

705
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:32.079
in vain if we leave here today
and forget what has happened. Amen,

706
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:45.960
Amen, mister Engelman, Amen,
I think nau read the names of all

707
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:51.280
of those that lost their lives here
during that fifty one days. Cyrus Howell,

708
01:04:53.719 --> 01:05:01.239
David koresh Rachel Howell, Star Howell, Sherry Jewel, David Jones,

709
01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:10.000
Perry Jones, Michelle Jones, Serenity
C. Jones, Bobby Lane, Paresh,

710
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:18.000
Steve Schneider, Judy Schneider, Banna
Schneider, Sonja Murray Douglas, Wayne

711
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:26.519
Martin, Wayne Martin Junior, Anita
Martin, Sheila Renee Martin, Lisa Martin,

712
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:30.960
Floyd, Peter Jet, John McBee, Peter hipsman Aldrich Smatt, Senobi

713
01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:36.840
Beverly Elliott, Laura SETAs Of,
Susan Benta, Lisa Sherry Doyle, Pablo

714
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:45.559
Cohen or Raymond Bryson, Kathy Androtti, Jennifer Andrade, Chanelle Andratti, Mike

715
01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:51.119
Schroder, Sandra Hardyle, the following
names we don't have the last names of

716
01:05:53.039 --> 01:06:00.599
Stone Sonja Refecca Dabo, and a
pair of unnamed twins. B A t

717
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:04.880
F agents also lost their lives here, and we're here to memorialize all of

718
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:12.760
those that lost their lives Following bat
F agents Stephen Willis, Robert j.

719
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:19.239
Williams, Conway le Beau, Todd
mckinna. I think we'd like to suspend

720
01:06:19.280 --> 01:07:10.639
about a minute just in silent prayer. If you don't mind them, start

721
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:03.519
loving God there is, but you've
got to remember one thing. All through

722
01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:11.840
the Bible, he's loving and Kind's
version Jorge Ramy, He's also a warrior

723
01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:15.000
and he is coming back. Do
you think he's gonna come back? Yeah?

724
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:53.319
All right, that's the end of
that one. Let's move on to

725
01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:57.520
the next one, and I have
a hard time seeing little kids pictures and

726
01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:00.960
I know that something bad happened to
him. Holy shit, I am not

727
01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:14.680
in a good spot right now.
I removed myself back. Okay, let's

728
01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:28.039
move on to the next video.
So this one's gonna be kind of it's

729
01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:30.800
a toss up right now. And
see I have there's so many that I

730
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:34.760
could use here. A lot has
to be done and we also have to

731
01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:45.359
do. Let's see the final Testament
is that what they call that there was

732
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:48.920
a tape that was made while they
were still alive and they were, you

733
01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:56.439
know, under siege, and it
survived the tape to cull out and it's

734
01:09:56.720 --> 01:10:01.760
them being wonderful human beings. The
children are on the video, they're all

735
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:05.359
talking. David's got a gun shot, a gunshot went to the gut,

736
01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:10.680
he's bleeding, he's a little bit
bandaged up, not too well. It's

737
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:16.199
leaking out and uh yeah, that
video is about two hours long though,

738
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:18.600
I think, or something like that. So we'll get to that to a

739
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:23.199
different day. I think we want
to do initiates to the Flame revisited,

740
01:10:23.800 --> 01:10:27.680
and these are all going to tie
in because a lot of this information you're

741
01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:33.800
gonna understand why and this happened,
how this happened, and all that stuff.

742
01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:41.840
But before we get there, I
had mentioned that there was three just

743
01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:46.000
in that one video. There's three
things that either I didn't know, we're

744
01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:53.680
not supposed now obviously, and actually
four if I count something that it wasn't

745
01:10:53.720 --> 01:11:01.520
part of that video. But the
ATF government was running guns from Iraq to

746
01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:05.720
put on the streets so that they
could then use that as the reasoning for

747
01:11:05.960 --> 01:11:11.520
more gun control or gun confiscation and
disarmament. They were going to flood the

748
01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:15.239
streets with and maybe they did with
automatic weapons or whatever. Maybe not an

749
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:20.039
automatic weapons, but weapons of you
know, I don't think use the word

750
01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:23.600
of sault rifles some time to avoid
it because it's a stupid thing. This

751
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:29.600
is a salt pen if I fucking
throw it at you anyway. So they

752
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:32.960
were running guns from Iraq. They
were after possibly the computer that was inside,

753
01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:38.520
and if any of them inside were
able to have seen that information,

754
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:43.800
then all of them would have had
to go. There's the other the continuous

755
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:48.760
residence. I don't know if you
had caught that in that video, but

756
01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:54.720
they had twenty days left, and
if they had stayed there. I don't

757
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:57.920
know how at what point in the
siege that was that would have ended,

758
01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:01.479
or if it would have ended afterward, then through the courts or whatever,

759
01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:05.199
they would have owned the land.
So that would mean that if they all

760
01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:09.840
vacated, and technically they would have
broken that and it would have been televised,

761
01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:11.960
so they would have it would have
been known that they wouldn't have been

762
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:15.079
they wouldn't have been in their land. So they had a reason to stay

763
01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:18.600
for that reason too, because if
they all left, there'd be a problem.

764
01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:25.880
They would not have had the rights
to the land. The fact that

765
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:30.760
twenty five people were gunned down as
they ran out of the fighter, and

766
01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:32.199
then the fact that white Water was
going on at the same time, and

767
01:12:32.359 --> 01:12:35.560
fuck had Nuja for saying that that
was a nice little plant to say.

768
01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:39.439
Oh, I'll even let Bill get
right over that. Is that what we're

769
01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:45.079
supposed to do? Is that what
we're supposed to do. There's another thing

770
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:49.600
that happened during that time, because
Bill Cooper was there. Bill Cooper was

771
01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:56.840
on the scene, and we're gonna
listen to those later, and I guess

772
01:12:56.840 --> 01:13:00.439
I have to wait till next September
now or maybe maybe not, but there's

773
01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:06.199
an eight hour broadcast that he did
on the day of the other time the

774
01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:12.560
government attacked itself and killed civilians and
innocent people and decided to blame it on

775
01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:15.840
someone else. Um. Yeah,
when in New York if you if you

776
01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:23.000
recall September eleventh. But anyway,
when Bill was broadcasting from Waco, the

777
01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:26.840
radio station he was broadcasting from was
burned down. They had mentioned that video

778
01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:30.439
that they would do. They do
those things, and it did happen,

779
01:13:30.840 --> 01:13:33.520
and he was moved to another so
he could continue. So that that happened

780
01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:38.560
while he was telling the truth and
everybody else is lying or had a very

781
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:42.119
jaded opinion that they decided to adopt
because they just accepted it what it was

782
01:13:42.239 --> 01:13:46.640
being told to them. And Ron
Engelman the whole time, though it wasn't

783
01:13:46.680 --> 01:13:50.960
harassed, wasn't to me. I
think he was a fixer. I don't.

784
01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:55.640
I don't know if that's true,
but I just something about his two

785
01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.039
artificial of a way he carries himself. He's like he carries himself like he's

786
01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:04.600
always on radio, like he's full
of shit or an actor. So regardless

787
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:08.319
of he was just there to smooth
things out or not, because he kind

788
01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:12.159
of didn't. I don't know how
much I trust Ron Engelman. I'd like

789
01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:15.079
to see what Bill had to say
about him, but we don't hear about

790
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:17.159
that in that particular broadcast. So
that's one thing I want to know about.

791
01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:26.720
And the other part of that video. It's not part of the things

792
01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:29.319
that we didn't know, but it's
just one of those things that I found

793
01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:32.960
interesting when to go him and said
when we had no evidence. We had

794
01:14:33.039 --> 01:14:38.159
no evidence, so it was very
frustrating time for us, says a fat

795
01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:43.600
social worker for the CPS. Right, not that she was glad there was

796
01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:48.319
no child abuse occurring, upset she
couldn't take the children. Right. And

797
01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:54.119
here's another thing that I found as
a recurring thing with a lot of these

798
01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:59.720
events, and there's I will show
you more examples of this later on,

799
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:04.640
but this is the second or third
one that I've come across now where not

800
01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:10.640
that there was a bad element to
this, but a lot of times either

801
01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:17.119
a naturopathic or a homeopathic doctor will
either start a group that is good,

802
01:15:18.199 --> 01:15:23.920
just like the Davidians were just Hey, we're not like the seven Days added

803
01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:26.279
this same one. We got to
start our own thing back in forty five

804
01:15:26.359 --> 01:15:31.399
or fifty five or whenever it was. That natropathic doctor who had treated some

805
01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:35.800
of the Davidians was a good guy
and he was somehow affiliated with him.

806
01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:41.439
There's like there's always like this thing
you're always gonna find because the real people

807
01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:45.760
who understand things, they don't go
to the to the to the systemic corruption

808
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:51.279
of allopathic medicine, because when you
understand that how it controlled everything is,

809
01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:56.920
you understand that that's like one of
the one of the with the not a

810
01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:00.199
lynchpan, but like a is it
I don't know, maybe it is maybe

811
01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:06.079
what they call it the keystone,
like one of those things that you know

812
01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:10.920
it's very important for the whole thing
to go around, and which would be

813
01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:14.359
the medical right. And so that
a lot of the times, the people

814
01:16:14.399 --> 01:16:21.039
who are aware, they stop,
they do not seek MD directed allopathic medicine

815
01:16:21.079 --> 01:16:27.159
anymore. So you'll always see that
there's a neutropathic doctor, a homeopathic doctor,

816
01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:33.600
somebody that's involved with them in a
positive way every time, and it's

817
01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:38.880
happened like everyone I've looked at so
far, I end up finding that connection.

818
01:16:39.239 --> 01:16:43.479
And in this video I see this
one. So the guy was I

819
01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:48.119
don't remember his name, but he
even said himself, the nutropathic doctor that

820
01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:51.159
thirty years and this is thirty years
ago, he said that the media was

821
01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:57.520
all lies. And you know,
he actually made a point that made me

822
01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:00.640
think, well, maybe I should
watch the news because I'm good at dissecting

823
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:02.560
at least I think I am,
like I can spot a bullshit or artist

824
01:17:03.680 --> 01:17:08.520
why they're lying is or what they're
like, you know, or what the

825
01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:11.920
truth is is harder to get to, but knowing when they're telling you a

826
01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:15.760
lie is pretty apparent. And uh, it's even the lies in between the

827
01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:21.159
lies that people miss that I sometimes
can spot. Like they are doing this,

828
01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:24.920
but that's not even the big point, the one that they're tucking underneath.

829
01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:29.279
This is the reason why they're doing
this. So anyway, let's move

830
01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:33.119
on to and I this is not
going off topic. You just gotta trust

831
01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:39.039
me on this, right because we're
gonna understand why what's the symbol for fire?

832
01:17:39.159 --> 01:17:42.199
Why fire? Why are they always
trying to burn everything down? Why

833
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:45.600
are thelways? And you're gonna you're
gonna find out through this video and it's

834
01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:49.000
gonna make a lot of sense.
And we have to have this foundation.

835
01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:56.159
I'm actually considering putting this transcript of
this particular one in my book because I'm

836
01:17:56.199 --> 01:17:59.960
talking about all these secret societies and
ancient cults and what are these secret scizes

837
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:03.520
came from the mystery schools and all
that stuff, and looking at the origins

838
01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:06.399
of child trafficking why there was a
black market for it in the first place.

839
01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:13.760
And it's called Most Noble cause it's
ball Buster's book one basically, and

840
01:18:14.439 --> 01:18:16.640
a lot of it, like I
paid tribute to doctor to Bill Cooper in

841
01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:21.359
it. I do have one of
his transcripts in there from this episode called

842
01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:29.640
Darkness. And then maybe this one
too, because this this will Italian really

843
01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:31.119
well with the with the mystery bab
blood. If I threw this at the

844
01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:34.079
end of this chapter, let me
show you what I'm talking about. Here,

845
01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:50.920
you're listening to the hour of the
time. I'm William Cooper and now

846
01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:58.840
I'm too well start a thought,
Okay, I preg your back. I'm

847
01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:10.600
nice the maker during the book with
a thank you, baby, you did

848
01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:15.960
a wonderful job. As always,
thank you. Ladies and gentlemen. Don't

849
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:19.560
go away because tonight is a heavy
one and you're going to learn some things

850
01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:27.800
you've never known before. But first
I must outline the basis for tonight's broadcast.

851
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:35.279
Years ago, there was an organization
called the Symbionese Liberation Army, whose

852
01:19:35.399 --> 01:19:43.840
leader, mister Sink, came out
of the California prison system and was involved

853
01:19:44.760 --> 01:19:49.640
in a mind control experiment run by
the United States government. It is our

854
01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:56.279
belief that it was this mind control
experiment that created the Symbionese Liberation Army.

855
01:19:57.359 --> 01:20:02.960
And if you will remember, the
last remaining members of that organization died in

856
01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:14.920
a fire set by the police and
they disappeared from history. In Philadelphia,

857
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:23.199
another group, the move Group,
died the same death, consumed and an

858
01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:35.800
overwhelming combustion a flame. They died
by fire, and they were not the

859
01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:41.920
only ones. This has an ancient
history. Or if you go back to

860
01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:45.560
the days of the Inquisition, anyone
who was considered to be politically incorrect or

861
01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:51.279
did not go along with the status
quo was again tied to a stake.

862
01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:57.720
Faggots were laid around their feet and
they were consumed in a fire. In

863
01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:10.960
a flame. It is the history
of a specific organization, a specific religious

864
01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:17.439
belief that causes these things to happen. Not long ago, in a town

865
01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:25.840
in Waco, Texas, a church
known as the Branch. The Vidians were

866
01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:34.199
again consumed by the flame, burned
in the fire. In this hidden religion,

867
01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:41.880
they believe that all things in nature
are renewed by fire. Their enemies

868
01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:48.760
are cleansed and cannot come back to
get them. It is known to us

869
01:21:48.800 --> 01:21:55.840
as the Waco massacre. Today,
on all the news media, you were

870
01:21:55.920 --> 01:22:03.279
told that in Switzerland, a religious
cult led by a man who called himself

871
01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:15.319
limis Hiah or Jesus, committed mass
suicide. Would like to notify you,

872
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:17.479
just so you don't get confused from
this broadcast folks, that this is a

873
01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:25.319
rerun. This is a rerun from
October fifth, nineteen ninety four. It

874
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:34.199
is take number four or five four
in our catalog, and it was a

875
01:22:34.279 --> 01:22:39.960
lie. You're going to learn the
truth now and then during the rest of

876
01:22:40.039 --> 01:22:43.760
this hour, I'm going to reveal
to you this mystery religion. I'm going

877
01:22:43.840 --> 01:22:48.720
to tell you who these people are
who do these things, eliminate their enemies

878
01:22:49.279 --> 01:22:59.479
and burn them, consume them in
the flame the fire. Remember in Dallas,

879
01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:02.760
Texas, in day Plaza, there
is an oblisk representing the generative force

880
01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:09.800
of this religion. On the top
of this obelisk is a flame. A

881
01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:17.560
flame on the grave of John F. Kennedy burns, an eternal flame put

882
01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:23.399
there in mockery by those who murdered
him. In a temple of the Sun

883
01:23:27.239 --> 01:23:40.319
on Elm Street. He was the
sacrificed king and in Sherry's and I don't

884
01:23:40.359 --> 01:23:44.760
think it was any coincidence. I
don't think there was any mistake that they

885
01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:49.479
used a nightmare on Elm Street in
a movie name. They had multiple you

886
01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:57.359
know, sequels when you know how
that affects the psyche when it comes to

887
01:23:57.439 --> 01:24:06.600
mind control. Switzerland police late last
night, which was day there found forty

888
01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:15.880
eight bodies after fires in two Swiss
villages linked to a Canadian based religion led

889
01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:19.560
by a charismatic doctor who was said
to have portrayed himself as a new Christ.

890
01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:27.960
Does this sound familiar? Twenty two
of the bodies, many clad in

891
01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:33.159
black and red cloaks, which is
the color of the mystery School Freemasonry,

892
01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:39.560
black and red cloaks, and with
bullet wounds to the head, were found

893
01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:44.119
in a hidden basement under a barn
in Sherry, a farming community in western

894
01:24:44.279 --> 01:24:50.479
Switzerland. They did not commit suicide. Another body, that of a seventy

895
01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:55.000
three year old Geneva, man who
had rented the buildings four years ago,

896
01:24:55.680 --> 01:25:00.439
lay in a nearby farmhouse with a
plastic bag over his head. He had

897
01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:09.680
also been shot execution style in the
alpine mountainside hamlet of Granges Sir Salvan,

898
01:25:09.960 --> 01:25:15.119
one hundred miles to the south.
Fireman pulled twenty five corpses from the smoldering

899
01:25:15.239 --> 01:25:19.840
ruins of two chalets, and a
police spokesman said it was feared more bodies

900
01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:26.199
were in another house still burning.
A local official and fireman who was among

901
01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:30.640
the purse to find the cheery body, said some were in a secret chapel

902
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:38.399
apparently set up by members of this
religion whom they say called themselves and I

903
01:25:38.520 --> 01:25:45.079
quote the Order of the Solar Temple
end quote headed by the homeopathic doctor Luke

904
01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:49.960
Jore forty six of Canada. Police
said Jarret was also the owner of two

905
01:25:50.119 --> 01:25:57.000
of the chalets at Granges. In
Canada. Police and Quebec told our representatives

906
01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:02.119
that a house he owned there had
also earned late on Tuesday and two people

907
01:26:02.199 --> 01:26:11.520
had been consumed by those flames.
There was no indication whether Jure reported to

908
01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:15.479
have fed from Canada to Switzerland after
he and other members of his group were

909
01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:25.039
prosecuted for weapons offenses. Was among
the dead in the three incidences, Tiller

910
01:26:25.119 --> 01:26:29.600
told the news conference in Sherry.
The bodies there were lying on their stomachs

911
01:26:30.119 --> 01:26:35.159
or on their backs in a resting
position, with plastic bags over their heads.

912
01:26:36.439 --> 01:26:45.119
There were no signs of struggle.
Notice they call this organization a cult.

913
01:26:46.159 --> 01:26:50.439
They say that the cult was led
by a charismatic doctor who was said

914
01:26:50.520 --> 01:26:57.199
to have portrayed himself as a knew
Christ, Jesus. Many of the bodies

915
01:26:57.239 --> 01:27:01.520
were clad in black and red cloaks. They had bullet wounds to the head.

916
01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:09.479
They were executed, executed, executed. They did not commit suicide.

917
01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:15.359
They were all in several locations throughout
Switzerland and Canada, and they were all

918
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:25.560
burned, consumed in the flame.
Don't go away, ladies and gentlemen and

919
01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:42.399
sheepul for you have a lot to
learn. Many ages have elapsed since the

920
01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:48.439
Egyptian priest king passed through the pillars
of thieves. Ages before what they called

921
01:27:48.479 --> 01:27:54.960
a sinking of Atlantis, thousands of
years before the Christian era. Egypt was

922
01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:59.119
the land they say of great truth. It was certainly the land of the

923
01:27:59.239 --> 01:28:04.640
mysteries, the hand of the great
White brotherhood was held out to the Empire

924
01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:10.479
of the Nile, and the passages
of the ancient Pyramid resounded with the chants

925
01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:15.840
of the initiates. Yes, for
they were never built as tombs, but

926
01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:19.800
temples of initiation. And it was
then that the pharaoh, now called half

927
01:28:19.920 --> 01:28:26.319
human and half divine, reigned in
ancient Egypt. There as the Egyptian word

928
01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:30.720
for king. Many of the later
pharaohs were degenerate, and of little account.

929
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:35.119
It is only early pharaohs we now
list among the priest kings. Try

930
01:28:35.319 --> 01:28:40.920
to picture for a moment the Great
Hall of Luxor, or, if you

931
01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:47.359
will, the Luxor Hotel and Las
Vegas Nevada. The Great Hall of Luxor,

932
01:28:47.560 --> 01:28:53.680
its inscriptive columns holding up domes of
solid granite, each column carved with

933
01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:58.239
the histories of the gods. There
at the upper end of the chamber sat

934
01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:01.600
the Pharaoh of the Nile in his
of state. Around him his counselors,

935
01:29:01.920 --> 01:29:08.840
chief among them the priest of the
Temple, and imposing spectacle. It was

936
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:15.640
the gigantic frame of the later Atlantean, robed in gold and priceless jewels on

937
01:29:15.800 --> 01:29:18.399
his head, the crown of the
North and South, the double Empire of

938
01:29:18.479 --> 01:29:25.720
the ancients. On his forehead the
coiled serpent of the initiate, the serpent

939
01:29:25.920 --> 01:29:29.279
which was raised in the wilderness that
all who looked upon it might live.

940
01:29:30.159 --> 01:29:36.439
This eurius represented the sleeping serpent power
in man, which coiled head downward around

941
01:29:36.439 --> 01:29:40.920
the tree of life, drove him
from the garden of the Lord, but

942
01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:45.520
which raised upon the cross, became
the symbol of the Christ. In the

943
01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:51.079
Mysteries, the payroll was an initiate
of scorpio. Scorpio. Another word for

944
01:29:51.159 --> 01:29:56.760
scorpio in the Mysteries is lucifer,
and the serpent is the transmuted scorpio energy

945
01:29:56.920 --> 01:30:02.720
which working upward in the regenerated individual
is called the kumu Dalin. The kum

946
01:30:03.079 --> 01:30:14.720
Dalin the serpent was the sign of
initiation. It meant that within him the

947
01:30:14.840 --> 01:30:19.159
serpent had been raised. For the
true Pharoh was a priest of God,

948
01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:26.000
which God you will discover as we
go, as well as a master of

949
01:30:26.079 --> 01:30:30.079
men. He sat upon the cube
altar throne, indicating his mastery over the

950
01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:32.680
four elements of his physical body,
a judge of the living and of the

951
01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:36.880
dead. In spite of all his
power and glory in the grandeur of the

952
01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:43.319
world's greatest empire. Still he bowed
in humble supplication to the will of the

953
01:30:43.439 --> 01:30:48.079
gods plural. In his hand he
carried the triple scepter of the Nile,

954
01:30:48.640 --> 01:30:55.000
the flail our whip, the shepherd's
crook, and the annubous headed staff.

955
01:30:55.800 --> 01:31:00.439
These were the symbols of his work. They represented the powers which he had

956
01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:02.840
mastered. With the whip, he
had subjugated his physical body. With the

957
01:31:02.920 --> 01:31:06.359
shepherd's crook, he was the guardian
and keeper of his emotional body. With

958
01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:12.279
the annumous headed staff, he was
master of his mind and worthy to wield

959
01:31:12.520 --> 01:31:18.560
the powers of government over others,
because first of all he obeyed the laws

960
01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:24.840
himself, with all his robes of
state, with the scarab upon his breast,

961
01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:29.239
and with the all seeing eye above
his throne. There was still nothing

962
01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:34.079
as precious or as sacred to the
ancient Egyptian priest king as the triangular girdle

963
01:31:34.479 --> 01:31:40.079
or apron, which was the symbol
of his initiation, the apron which is

964
01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:47.079
still worn in the lodges of the
Sons of Light, the free Massans,

965
01:31:48.079 --> 01:31:55.520
the Freemasons. The apron of the
ancient Egyptian carried with it the same symbolism

966
01:31:55.560 --> 01:32:00.039
as the Masonic apron of today.
It symbolized the purification of the body when

967
01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:04.159
the seat of the lower emotions scorpio
was covered by the white sheep skin of

968
01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:10.600
purification. This symbol of his purification
was the most precious belonging of the ancient

969
01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:15.560
pharaoh, and this plain insignia,
worn by many others below him in rank

970
01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:19.600
and dignity, but equal to him
in spiritual purification, was the most precious

971
01:32:19.640 --> 01:32:24.960
of all things to the priest king. There he sat enthrone, adorned with

972
01:32:25.079 --> 01:32:30.079
the symbols of his purification and mastery, a wise king over a wise people.

973
01:32:30.199 --> 01:32:33.800
And it was through these priest kings
that the Divine worked. Where they

974
01:32:34.159 --> 01:32:40.600
were the order of melchis a deck. Through them was formulated that doctrine which

975
01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:45.920
degeneracy has not been able entirely to
obliterate, which we know as the divine

976
01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:53.479
right of kings divine because through spirituality
and growth, God was able to manifest

977
01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:57.720
through them. They were conscious instruments
in the hands of a ready ruler,

978
01:32:57.880 --> 01:33:00.319
willing and proud to do the work
of those with whom, through knowledge and

979
01:33:00.439 --> 01:33:15.920
truth they had attuned themselves. They
were the purveyors and the keepers of the

980
01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:28.840
fruit of the Tree of Knowledge.
They were the gnostics, the knowers of

981
01:33:29.039 --> 01:33:32.880
good and evil. But the time
came, as in all nations, when

982
01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:38.039
selfishness and egotism entered the heart of
king and people alike. And slowly the

983
01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:42.520
hand of the Great White Brotherhood that
it had bed ancient Egypt was withdrawn,

984
01:33:42.840 --> 01:33:45.800
and the powers of darkness transformed the
land of glory into one of ruins,

985
01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:53.760
and the names of mighty kings were
buried beneath the oblivion. Mighty cataclysms shook

986
01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:57.000
the world, and out of the
land of darkness, the Great White Brotherhood

987
01:33:57.199 --> 01:34:03.319
led the faithful few into the promised
land Egypt. The land of glory disintegrated

988
01:34:04.279 --> 01:34:11.760
into dust. The great temples of
the Pharaohs are ruins, and the temples

989
01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:15.279
of Isis are but broken heaps of
sandstone. But what of the priest kings

990
01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:20.000
who labored there in the days of
its glory. Well, ladies and gentlemen,

991
01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:24.600
they are still with us, for
those who were leaders before our leaders.

992
01:34:24.720 --> 01:34:30.079
Now if they have continued to walk
the path. Although his scepter begone

993
01:34:30.119 --> 01:34:33.920
and his priestly vestments molded away,
the priest king still walks the earth with

994
01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:39.359
the dignity and the power and the
child like simplicity that made him great before.

995
01:34:42.920 --> 01:34:45.960
He no longer wears the robes of
his order. He wears a suit

996
01:34:46.079 --> 01:34:51.760
and a tie, or a white
coat, or still a black robe if

997
01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:59.600
he's a judge. Yet, although
he bears no credentials, he bears the

998
01:34:59.720 --> 01:35:04.560
sea signs and hand shakes and whispered
passwords. And he is as much a

999
01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:10.840
priest king now as then, for
he still bears the true insignia of his

1000
01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:20.239
rank. The coiled serpent has given
place to knowledge and lies and deception.

1001
01:35:23.279 --> 01:35:39.159
The coiled serpent has given the world
both good and evil. The hand that

1002
01:35:39.279 --> 01:35:48.680
bestowed the riches of the past does
very little acts of kindness now. Although

1003
01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:55.399
he no longer carries the scepters of
self mastery, still he manifests that mastery

1004
01:35:55.439 --> 01:36:00.199
in his daily life. Are so
he manages to fool himself so that he

1005
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:05.039
does. And although the altar fires
within the Temple of Carnate have long been

1006
01:36:05.159 --> 01:36:11.239
dead, the true fire still burns, and before it he still bows,

1007
01:36:11.319 --> 01:36:15.840
as he bowed in the days of
Egypt's glory. And while the branch Davidians,

1008
01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:18.079
the children, the men, and
women were being consumed by the flames.

1009
01:36:19.479 --> 01:36:24.840
Agents of the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco and Firearms and the Federal Bureau

1010
01:36:24.880 --> 01:36:29.359
of Investigation were seen to raise their
arms into the air and bow to the

1011
01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:35.039
fire. Although the priest is no
longer his counselor, and the wise ones

1012
01:36:35.079 --> 01:36:39.600
of his country no longer ate him
in problems of state, still he is

1013
01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:43.960
never alone, for the priests in
white and the counselors in blue still march

1014
01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:47.520
with him, and whisper words of
strength when he needs them. And they're

1015
01:36:47.560 --> 01:37:00.479
always the hollow, sacred, secretive, secure halls of the lodge. And

1016
01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:06.159
still still in the invisible ether about
the Pyramids of Giza, the initiations continue.

1017
01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:12.840
Still the initiate receives the insignia of
his rank, the Coil's servant.

1018
01:37:13.079 --> 01:37:16.239
Before that fire, he makes his
vows, and upon the burning altar of

1019
01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:20.159
his own higher being, he lays
his crown and his scepter, his robes

1020
01:37:20.239 --> 01:37:25.039
and his jewels, his hates and
his fears, and sanctifies his life as

1021
01:37:25.039 --> 01:37:29.359
a priest king, and swears to
serve none but his own fire self,

1022
01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:48.560
the God within the initiates of the
flame. He who lives the life shall

1023
01:37:48.640 --> 01:38:10.199
know. The doctrine concerns of ordin
fire of the philosopher. To all ancient

1024
01:38:10.279 --> 01:38:15.119
people's fire was a symbol of the
Divine One dwelling in the innermost parts of

1025
01:38:15.279 --> 01:38:20.479
all things. Robert Flood, a
Rosicrucian mystic writing the seventeenth century, declared

1026
01:38:20.520 --> 01:38:26.239
that the fire of the philosophers was
divided into three parts. First a visible

1027
01:38:26.319 --> 01:38:30.439
fire, which is the source of
physical light and heat. Second, an

1028
01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:35.239
invisible, our astral fire, which
enlightens and warns the soul. Third,

1029
01:38:35.399 --> 01:38:40.920
a spiritual our divine fire, which
in the universe is known as God and

1030
01:38:41.079 --> 01:38:50.479
in man as Spirit. The initiates
who took their oaths in the presence of

1031
01:38:50.640 --> 01:38:59.880
the flame renounced the lesser concerns of
ordinary life, and freed from the attached

1032
01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:06.279
of this material sphere. These purified
souls became custodians of that symbolic flame of

1033
01:39:06.399 --> 01:39:12.039
wisdom, which they say is the
true light of the world. This light

1034
01:39:12.239 --> 01:39:17.000
is a manifestation of what they call
the one universal life, that active agent

1035
01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:25.039
whose impulses are the cause of all
siderial phenomena. Where in antiquity this flame

1036
01:39:25.119 --> 01:39:29.439
of light, the spirit fire,
was the object of a universal adoration and

1037
01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:33.479
was worshiped as the very presence of
God himself. It a lies buried beneath

1038
01:39:33.520 --> 01:39:40.159
the ruins of man's fallen temple,
obscured by the paramount interests of the flesh.

1039
01:39:40.920 --> 01:39:47.079
It emits but the faintest gleam in
this non philosophic age, except except

1040
01:39:48.399 --> 01:39:55.439
gidden behind the veil of the mysteries, practice in secrets, and the depths

1041
01:39:55.520 --> 01:40:03.720
of the night in the lodge carried
in symbolism and mystery throughout the world,

1042
01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:14.159
the great White Brotherhood, I can
assure you lives and is in control.

1043
01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:20.239
Few realize that, even at the
present stage of civilization, in this world,

1044
01:40:20.359 --> 01:40:25.119
there are souls who, like the
priests of the ancient temples, who

1045
01:40:25.119 --> 01:40:29.600
walk the earth and watch and guard
the sacred fires that burn upon the altar

1046
01:40:30.119 --> 01:40:35.520
of humanity. They call themselves purified
ones. They are who have renounced the

1047
01:40:35.600 --> 01:40:41.279
life of this sphere in order to
guard and protect the flame that spiritual principle

1048
01:40:41.359 --> 01:40:46.960
in Man, now hidden beneath the
ruins of his fallen temple. And all

1049
01:40:48.119 --> 01:41:00.319
this symbolic mumbo jumbo means is secular
humanism, the concept that men himself is

1050
01:41:00.439 --> 01:41:06.159
God. You see, they not
only lie to you, they not only

1051
01:41:06.239 --> 01:41:11.039
deceive you, They not only manipulate
you. But they lie to themselves,

1052
01:41:11.520 --> 01:41:19.239
They deceive themselves, and they manipulate
those below them. And as we think

1053
01:41:19.279 --> 01:41:23.279
of the nations that are past,
of Greece and Rome, and the grandeur

1054
01:41:23.399 --> 01:41:29.560
that was surely Egypt's, we sigh
as we recall the story of their fall.

1055
01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:32.119
And we watch the nations of today, not knowing which will be the

1056
01:41:32.199 --> 01:41:38.479
next to draw it shroud around itself
and join that great ghostly file of peoples

1057
01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:45.520
that are dead. But everywhere,
even in the rise and fall of nations,

1058
01:41:45.680 --> 01:41:51.880
we see through the haze of materiality
justice. Everywhere we see reward,

1059
01:41:53.039 --> 01:42:00.039
not of man, but of the
invincible One. The internal flame, the

1060
01:42:00.279 --> 01:42:06.439
eternal flame that burns in mockery upon
the grave of our fallen President John F.

1061
01:42:06.640 --> 01:42:13.920
Kennedy, The eternal plane that stands
atop the obelisk in deVie Plaza,

1062
01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:21.479
the fire that burns on the sacred
altar of Cosmos, that great fire which

1063
01:42:21.600 --> 01:42:29.560
is called the never dying Spirit of
God, the sun spelled su in.

1064
01:42:30.119 --> 01:42:36.399
Lest there be any fools listening,
if we turn again to the races now

1065
01:42:36.479 --> 01:42:40.600
dead, we shall, if we
look, find the cause of their destruction.

1066
01:42:45.680 --> 01:42:53.000
It's not difficult. It was a
loss of morality, the disintegration of

1067
01:42:53.159 --> 01:43:10.159
the family, the proliferation of greed, greed selfishness amongst those who were supposed

1068
01:43:10.199 --> 01:43:20.199
to serve the government or the public. Degeneracy, lust and passion, hates

1069
01:43:20.279 --> 01:43:27.199
and fears crept into the souls of
Greece and Rome, and black magic overshadowed

1070
01:43:27.279 --> 01:43:38.159
Egypt. And mighty nation died,
buried beneath the dead ashes of its own

1071
01:43:38.560 --> 01:43:46.359
spiritual fire. But the flame did
not die. The plain has never died.

1072
01:43:46.439 --> 01:43:51.439
Like spirit of which it is the
essence. It cannot die because to

1073
01:43:51.600 --> 01:43:59.119
the mysteries it is life, and
life cannot cease to be. And some

1074
01:43:59.479 --> 01:44:01.680
wilderness, some land, or see
it rested once again, and there rose

1075
01:44:01.760 --> 01:44:05.960
a mighty nation around that flame.
So history goes on through the ages.

1076
01:44:06.119 --> 01:44:14.800
As long as people are true to
the flame, it remains, and when

1077
01:44:14.840 --> 01:44:16.880
they cease to nourish it with their
lives, it goes on to other lands

1078
01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:24.359
and other worlds. Those who worship
this flame are now called heathens. And

1079
01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:34.520
this is why they hate Christians.
Christians call them heathens. Little do they

1080
01:44:34.640 --> 01:44:44.880
realize that they are heathen themselves.
And I'm talking about those who call these

1081
01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:54.920
heathens. You see in the mysteries. They claim that they are baptized with

1082
01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:57.720
the Holy Spirit, which is fire, for fire is light, and the

1083
01:44:57.800 --> 01:45:00.399
children and the flame of the sons
of light, even as God is light.

1084
01:45:01.920 --> 01:45:08.880
However, ladies and gentlemen, however
much it sounds as if they believe

1085
01:45:08.960 --> 01:45:15.600
the same as you. This again
is a metaphor for the esoteric truth of

1086
01:45:15.720 --> 01:45:19.039
what they really believe. But they
believe that the God of the Bible is

1087
01:45:19.039 --> 01:45:25.399
an evil god who held man a
prisoner in the garden of Eden, in

1088
01:45:25.520 --> 01:45:29.279
the bonds of the chains of ignorance. And the man was set three,

1089
01:45:31.359 --> 01:45:40.000
given his opportunity by Lucifer, through
his agents Satan, with a gift of

1090
01:45:40.239 --> 01:45:49.439
intellect. And that lucifers the God
of light, not Jesus Christ, who

1091
01:45:49.520 --> 01:45:56.680
said I Am the Way, the
Truth, and the Light. Are those

1092
01:45:56.720 --> 01:45:59.760
who have for ages labored with man
to help him, to kindle with him

1093
01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:09.880
themselves, this which is, they
say, man's divine birthright. And they

1094
01:46:09.960 --> 01:46:15.039
live their lives by self sacrifice and
serve us to the great plan, the

1095
01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:18.720
great work. And they tend to
this fire. And who through ages of

1096
01:46:18.920 --> 01:46:27.359
study, have learned the mystery it
contained, those who we now call those

1097
01:46:27.439 --> 01:46:44.119
who know now call the initiates of
the plane, the philosophers of fire throughout

1098
01:46:44.199 --> 01:46:56.000
the age call the Great Work.
They have labored towards the completion of what

1099
01:46:56.079 --> 01:47:04.319
they call the great Work, the
Plan, it's also called, And they

1100
01:47:04.479 --> 01:47:11.560
labored with trust the Plan and to
help him to uncover what they call the

1101
01:47:11.640 --> 01:47:17.119
like within himself and on the pages
of history. Throughout the ages they have

1102
01:47:17.319 --> 01:47:26.159
left their seal, the seal of
Fire, unhonored and unsunned. They have

1103
01:47:26.239 --> 01:47:30.000
labored, and now their lives are
used as fairy stories to amuse children.

1104
01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:38.279
You've all taken your children to see
these fairy stories, most of them put

1105
01:47:38.319 --> 01:47:41.720
on the screen by Walt Disney.
But the time will yet come when the

1106
01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:45.079
world shall know the work they did. And I can assure you that's not

1107
01:47:45.239 --> 01:47:51.880
far off. Unless you awaken from
your slumber. And you must realize that

1108
01:47:51.960 --> 01:47:57.760
our presence civilization is raised upon the
shoulders of these mighty demogods of the past.

1109
01:47:59.079 --> 01:48:02.760
You see, we stand as spouse
stood with all our lore fools,

1110
01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:13.880
no wiser than before because we refuse
to take the truths of the world,

1111
01:48:16.279 --> 01:48:29.399
walk out of fantasyland and live our
lives according to what is right and what

1112
01:48:29.640 --> 01:48:41.239
is true. They want to be
honored the sons of the flame, not

1113
01:48:41.399 --> 01:48:44.840
by words, but by so living, that their sacrifice shall not be in

1114
01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:47.439
vain. You see, they believe
in salvation by works, not in salvation

1115
01:48:47.560 --> 01:48:51.359
by faith. And I'm not making
any judgments on their religion. Are up

1116
01:48:51.439 --> 01:48:57.880
on yours, and I want you
to understand it. I'm a true constitutionalist.

1117
01:48:57.960 --> 01:49:03.000
I believe that everyone has the rights
protected by the Constitution of the Bill

1118
01:49:03.039 --> 01:49:08.960
of Rights to worship it whatever altar
they choose. I have no qualms with

1119
01:49:09.119 --> 01:49:15.119
that. The problem I have with
these people is that they lie, and

1120
01:49:15.279 --> 01:49:20.039
they deceive and they manipulate, and
they have done so throughout history. And

1121
01:49:20.199 --> 01:49:24.640
they are not the only ones.
But the Christian Church has done the same,

1122
01:49:25.359 --> 01:49:30.000
and the Jewish rabbis have done the
same, and nations and governments have

1123
01:49:30.279 --> 01:49:34.560
done the same. And they do
it because the people allow them to do

1124
01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:41.319
it. For the people, for
the most part, and this is absolutely

1125
01:49:41.359 --> 01:49:44.840
true, no matter how angry you
become upon hearing it, are nothing more

1126
01:49:44.920 --> 01:49:49.279
than sheeple who never ever use their
brains. They look for someone else to

1127
01:49:49.439 --> 01:49:53.600
tell them what is true and what
is false, to tell them when to

1128
01:49:53.680 --> 01:49:58.680
get up and when to go to
bed. They look with envy upon the

1129
01:49:58.760 --> 01:50:03.880
person who has vated themselves to a
position of ownership, who have, through

1130
01:50:04.079 --> 01:50:11.439
sweat and labor and toil and study, started a business that has succeeded.

1131
01:50:12.039 --> 01:50:15.720
And because they cannot or will not
use their brains, they must work for

1132
01:50:15.880 --> 01:50:24.800
this person, and so they hate
him. People in the mysteries this phrase

1133
01:50:25.199 --> 01:50:29.840
is used. A nation or world
of people who will not use their intelligence

1134
01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:34.960
are no better than animals who do
not have intelligence. Such people are beasts

1135
01:50:35.039 --> 01:50:41.239
of burden and stakes on the table
by choice and consent, and you can

1136
01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:55.600
take that to the bank. The
initiatives of the plane and their robes of

1137
01:50:55.680 --> 01:51:03.920
glory have passed behind the veil.
They have accumulated and hoarded knowledge, and

1138
01:51:04.039 --> 01:51:13.640
they hide it from the public.
And they justify their selfishness and their hoarding

1139
01:51:13.760 --> 01:51:18.520
of the knowledge and the wisdom and
the technology of the ages by stating,

1140
01:51:21.079 --> 01:51:28.000
even though even though it is forbidden
to mention the name of Jesus in the

1141
01:51:28.119 --> 01:51:32.920
lodge, they quote him when it
is to their benefit, stating, do

1142
01:51:33.079 --> 01:51:40.960
not cast your pearls before swine,
And that should give you some indication of

1143
01:51:41.039 --> 01:51:46.159
what they think of you. And
no matter what they think of themselves or

1144
01:51:46.239 --> 01:51:51.279
how they manage to fool themselves are
the world. There are no more a

1145
01:51:51.520 --> 01:51:59.439
fraternal organization existing for the good of
the community than pigs, where both ties

1146
01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:12.439
and go to the problem, or
anyone who practices the lies and deceit that

1147
01:52:12.560 --> 01:52:19.199
these men do have no morals,
cannot have good intentions, or what they

1148
01:52:19.239 --> 01:52:23.319
are building is based upon a lie, is based upon deceit, It is

1149
01:52:23.319 --> 01:52:27.800
based upon manipulation. And anything born
of a lie is just a bigger lie,

1150
01:52:28.960 --> 01:52:36.479
and has been throughout the history of
the world. And in their deception,

1151
01:52:39.560 --> 01:52:45.399
in their arrogance, they look upon
the public as prey, and they,

1152
01:52:45.600 --> 01:52:55.960
being beasts, feed lavishly upon the
ignorance of the sheeple. If you

1153
01:52:56.039 --> 01:53:00.439
want to know who they are,
go down to your local Masonic lodge.

1154
01:53:00.560 --> 01:53:11.399
Go down to the ancient Order of
the Rosy Cross, Go down to the

1155
01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:24.640
Order of Saint John of Jerusalem.
Nothing good is veiled in secrecy, ever,

1156
01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:30.960
for nothing good, ever has to
be No one engaged in truth and

1157
01:53:31.199 --> 01:53:36.920
goodness ever hides behind a line.
If you want to see who they are,

1158
01:53:40.119 --> 01:53:45.319
watch who enters the portals of the
Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral

1159
01:53:45.359 --> 01:53:54.720
Commission. Read the roles of the
Senate and the House of Representatives, look

1160
01:53:54.800 --> 01:53:58.880
to the bureaucrats to inhabit the halls
of government in Washington, d C.

1161
01:54:00.359 --> 01:54:04.319
Look to the upper echelons of the
military services of the United States of America,

1162
01:54:05.600 --> 01:54:11.239
the colonels and generals who have sold
this nation out to a new world

1163
01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:23.000
order, a one world totalitarian socialist
government under the United Nations. And it

1164
01:54:23.199 --> 01:54:27.399
is not a conspiracy. Don't quality
conspiracy. It is all out in the

1165
01:54:27.479 --> 01:54:30.840
open, and it stands upon the
ignorance, apathy, and stupidity of the

1166
01:54:30.920 --> 01:54:38.439
American people. That is the foundations
upon which the new world order is built.

1167
01:54:45.479 --> 01:54:50.680
Let us watch these mighty one that
they pass by. First Orpheus playing

1168
01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:55.840
upon the seven straining leer of his
own being the music of the spheres.

1169
01:54:56.000 --> 01:55:00.640
Then Hernie's the thrice Greatest, with
his emerald tablet of Divi revelation. Through

1170
01:55:00.680 --> 01:55:05.319
the shades of the past, we
dimly see Krishna, the illuminated, who,

1171
01:55:05.359 --> 01:55:09.720
on the battlefield of life, taught
men the mysteries of his own soul.

1172
01:55:10.119 --> 01:55:14.479
Then we see the Sublime Buddha,
his yellow robe not half so glorious

1173
01:55:14.560 --> 01:55:17.760
as the heart it covered. Had
our own dear master than man Jesus his

1174
01:55:17.880 --> 01:55:21.960
head surrounded with a halo of golden
flame, and his brow serene with the

1175
01:55:23.039 --> 01:55:28.039
calm of mastery. Then Mohammed,
Zoroaster, Confucius, Odin, and Moses,

1176
01:55:28.159 --> 01:55:33.279
and others no less worthy passed by
before the eyes of the student,

1177
01:55:33.439 --> 01:55:38.920
the initiate, or in the mysteries. They claimed that these were the sons

1178
01:55:39.000 --> 01:55:42.279
of flame. From the flame they
came, and to the flame they have

1179
01:55:42.439 --> 01:55:45.119
returned. To us. They beckoned, and bid us, in our robes

1180
01:55:45.159 --> 01:55:49.079
of self earned glory, to join
them and serve the flame they love.

1181
01:55:49.960 --> 01:56:00.640
A direct quote. They say that
these were without creed, claim that they

1182
01:56:00.720 --> 01:56:05.000
served but the one great ideal,
the great Work, or the great Plan.

1183
01:56:05.119 --> 01:56:12.119
They claimed that Jesus was a member
of a Gnostic sect, and that

1184
01:56:12.279 --> 01:56:18.279
he is a fiction born of the
mysteries. The wound in the side in

1185
01:56:18.359 --> 01:56:24.039
the mysteries, or the wound in
the thigh are metaphors for castration, the

1186
01:56:24.159 --> 01:56:28.640
severance of the genitals. It is
represented in the mysteries when the candidate lies

1187
01:56:28.720 --> 01:56:30.920
in the coffin, as George Bush
did, naked in the crypt at Yale

1188
01:56:31.039 --> 01:56:36.239
University, with a ribbon tied around
his genitals, symbolizing the separation of the

1189
01:56:36.359 --> 01:56:53.119
animal in man. And the elevation
of the intellect. The same with Parsival

1190
01:56:54.119 --> 01:56:56.600
in the end of the tale,
to search for the Holy Grail. After

1191
01:56:56.720 --> 01:57:05.520
he had achieved his goal, after
he had finally obtained the Grail, he

1192
01:57:05.720 --> 01:57:11.399
lay in bed with a woman who
tied her best to coax him into making

1193
01:57:11.520 --> 01:57:18.319
love to her, and he said, I cannot, for I have a

1194
01:57:18.520 --> 01:57:27.920
wound in the side. In the
mysteries, you have to understand, ladies

1195
01:57:27.960 --> 01:57:31.399
and gentlemen, that in history the
Holy Grail never existed. In the fold

1196
01:57:31.439 --> 01:57:40.000
of tales sprang up at the bards
of Europe from the talls of the templars,

1197
01:57:42.600 --> 01:57:46.680
and wandering minstrels sang these stories of
this holy Grail. In the Celtic

1198
01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:55.319
kingdoms, there was never any reference
before that time of any holy Grail.

1199
01:57:56.119 --> 01:58:00.880
It comes from the mysteries and in
the search, in the search for the

1200
01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:10.199
unification of the male, the masculine
and the feminine. Since the man could

1201
01:58:10.239 --> 01:58:20.359
not take within himself a woman,
he emasculated himself to get rid of the

1202
01:58:20.479 --> 01:58:28.880
male, and thus was said to
be able to rise to great heights of

1203
01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:34.439
wisdom and intellect and knowledge, to
be able to prophesy and see into the

1204
01:58:34.520 --> 01:58:41.359
future. The mystery of the spear
with the three drops of blood, or

1205
01:58:41.399 --> 01:58:45.640
the lance, as it is called, followed by the woman or the maiden

1206
01:58:45.800 --> 01:58:58.119
carrying a flatter with two perfect stones, followed by the gray old cup containing

1207
01:58:58.800 --> 01:59:03.279
a head surrounded by blood. There's
nothing more than the testicles and the penis

1208
01:59:03.960 --> 01:59:19.720
of the castrated fisher King. I
have discovered the origin and the meaning of

1209
01:59:19.800 --> 01:59:24.920
this myth, and I've just revealed
it to you. You do not have

1210
01:59:25.039 --> 01:59:28.800
to look any further. It was
never Christ's cup that he drank out of

1211
01:59:28.960 --> 01:59:35.399
at the Last Supper. Although the
grail can be whatever those who seek it

1212
01:59:35.680 --> 01:59:45.039
wish it to be, in the
halls of those who invented it, and

1213
01:59:45.199 --> 01:59:53.279
in the halls of those who sang
its glories, it is and has always

1214
01:59:53.399 --> 02:00:03.199
been what I have just revealed to
you, a shallow, oblong dish.

1215
02:00:12.760 --> 02:00:16.640
These were the sons of flame,
seeking the brilliance of intellect, knowledge,

1216
02:00:16.840 --> 02:00:23.359
gnosis, and at times in history
they would obtain it any way that they

1217
02:00:23.399 --> 02:00:40.439
thought they could. I have always
tried to show you this thread, that

1218
02:00:40.560 --> 02:00:45.800
this great thread of living fire that
winds in and out through all religions and

1219
02:00:45.920 --> 02:00:50.359
binds them together with a mutual ideal
and mutual needs. In the story of

1220
02:00:50.439 --> 02:00:55.560
the Grail and the Legends of King
Arthur, we find that thread wound around

1221
02:00:55.680 --> 02:01:00.239
the table of the King and the
temple of Mount Salvark. The same thread

1222
02:01:00.279 --> 02:01:04.239
of life that passes through the roses
of the Rosicrucians, winds among the petals

1223
02:01:04.279 --> 02:01:11.840
of the Lotus, and among the
temple pillars of Luksor, and through the

1224
02:01:11.960 --> 02:01:16.239
outer courtyard and the hidden depths of
the Vatican. Is but one religion in

1225
02:01:16.319 --> 02:01:19.359
all the world, known to all
the priests, of all the religions,

1226
02:01:19.439 --> 02:01:24.760
no matter what they are, and
that is the worship of the spiritual Flame

1227
02:01:25.000 --> 02:01:30.520
of the universe. Under many names, he's known in all lands. But

1228
02:01:30.720 --> 02:01:35.359
as Ishuari are Ammon, or God
are Lucifer, he is the same,

1229
02:01:35.520 --> 02:01:44.159
the creator of the universe, and
fire is his universal symbol. But if

1230
02:01:44.199 --> 02:01:48.000
you are not of the priesthood,
you are told many different things, and

1231
02:01:48.159 --> 02:01:51.960
you believe many different things, none
of them believed by the Minister. Are

1232
02:01:53.039 --> 02:01:57.279
the priests that stands upon the pulpit
and preaches out at you the deception and

1233
02:01:57.359 --> 02:02:04.680
the lies which caused you to put
your additional tax in the coffers of the

1234
02:02:04.840 --> 02:02:14.680
priesthood, and to be manipulated by
these lives, repeatedly, minute by minute,

1235
02:02:14.720 --> 02:02:16.520
hour by hour, day by day, week by week, month by

1236
02:02:16.640 --> 02:02:20.319
month, year by year, down
through the history, through the ages,

1237
02:02:20.439 --> 02:02:29.239
through the centuries, through the millennium. The sheep are led to the pens

1238
02:02:29.279 --> 02:02:32.800
where they are sheared, and then
led to the slaughterhouse where they are slaughtered,

1239
02:02:33.680 --> 02:02:44.119
all the while watched over by a
benevolent shepherd who is seen as a

1240
02:02:44.279 --> 02:03:00.039
good, wonderful, necessary ingredients in
this great cosmic comedy that it seems man

1241
02:03:00.560 --> 02:03:14.560
will never come out of. And
this is mystery Babylon. These priests are

1242
02:03:14.600 --> 02:03:21.600
the flame born. They call themselves
the sons of God. They believe that

1243
02:03:21.680 --> 02:03:28.439
through their works they will become God, thrown out as sparks from the wheels

1244
02:03:28.520 --> 02:03:33.960
of the infinite. And around the
flame they have built forms which have hidden

1245
02:03:34.000 --> 02:03:39.560
their light, the mysteries, this
symbology, the veil, that is,

1246
02:03:40.800 --> 02:03:48.560
students are initiates. They are increasing
the light of their religion by what you

1247
02:03:48.840 --> 02:03:56.760
perceive to be love and service,
until you shall again proclaim them the sons

1248
02:03:56.800 --> 02:04:01.600
of the eternal the shepherd kings,
and you shall bleet as sheep and bow

1249
02:04:01.760 --> 02:04:06.760
to them, and they will rule
you, and they will guarantee you a

1250
02:04:06.920 --> 02:04:13.000
job, and they will give you
food, and they will entertain you,

1251
02:04:14.199 --> 02:04:21.399
and they will create great circuses for
your benefit, and they will share you.

1252
02:04:23.560 --> 02:04:27.319
And when it is necessary, they
will slaughter you, as they have

1253
02:04:27.479 --> 02:04:30.720
done throughout the history of the world, all claiming that it is in the

1254
02:04:30.880 --> 02:04:39.359
best interest of humanity. They claim
that they are the true initiates of the

1255
02:04:39.520 --> 02:04:43.600
universe, the ones with the only
mature minds, those who have given all

1256
02:04:43.640 --> 02:04:47.079
to the infinite in the name of
the flame within the God that dwells within

1257
02:04:47.279 --> 02:04:55.600
them. And they want you to
find that flame and also serve it.

1258
02:04:55.880 --> 02:05:00.279
They want to destroy whatever religion you
belong to. They want you to to

1259
02:05:00.399 --> 02:05:03.239
this plaine, and if you do
not bow to this plain, they will

1260
02:05:03.319 --> 02:05:25.000
consume you in it. They will
burn you in this plain. Do you

1261
02:05:25.119 --> 02:05:30.199
had better awakened to this fact?
And bear in mind that your religion,

1262
02:05:30.279 --> 02:05:32.960
whatever it is, is no better
or worse than theirs, For they are

1263
02:05:32.960 --> 02:05:41.279
all born and conceived and practiced in
lies and deception, all of them without

1264
02:05:41.319 --> 02:05:47.319
exception. And you can call me
anything that you wish. I belong to

1265
02:05:47.479 --> 02:06:01.159
a small, very small group of
men and women in this world who only

1266
02:06:01.479 --> 02:06:06.600
want to know and live our lives
by the truth, no matter what it

1267
02:06:06.840 --> 02:06:16.399
is, and no matter who it
hurts. Our helps and I have told

1268
02:06:16.479 --> 02:06:25.279
you over and over and over again
that I am a messenger, and no

1269
02:06:25.399 --> 02:06:28.880
matter what you think of me,
no matter whether you like me, whether

1270
02:06:28.960 --> 02:06:36.199
you hate me, you had better
heed my message or unless mankind on an

1271
02:06:36.399 --> 02:06:45.720
individual basis all over this world matures
and becomes responsible and learns to pursue nothing

1272
02:06:45.880 --> 02:06:54.800
but the truth. The same lives
and deceptions and wars and murders and enslavements

1273
02:06:58.880 --> 02:07:09.399
and steps will continue into the future
as far as you can imagine. And

1274
02:07:09.560 --> 02:07:13.760
that is the legacy that you will
leave to your children and their children.

1275
02:07:13.840 --> 02:07:19.880
Your progeny. Our forefathers set up
this nation to give us a chance to

1276
02:07:20.159 --> 02:07:33.079
be free and responsible and to make
it work. They have not betrayed us.

1277
02:07:34.920 --> 02:07:42.399
We have betrayed them. You can
blame anybody you want for what is

1278
02:07:42.439 --> 02:07:48.000
happening in this nation today or around
the world. But I can assure you,

1279
02:07:48.119 --> 02:07:58.199
ladies and gentlemen, whoever you are, wherever you are, it is

1280
02:07:59.479 --> 02:08:18.520
our collective faults and no one else's, No one elsis. The hours may

1281
02:08:18.600 --> 02:08:24.159
seem long, and the teacher's cruel, but life is a school room,

1282
02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:35.920
and each of us must walk the
path through that school room. And Jesus

1283
02:08:37.079 --> 02:08:41.760
Christ tried to teach just this,
that the path is straight and narrow,

1284
02:08:48.680 --> 02:08:58.359
and the gate is narrow, straight
as the way, and narrow as the

1285
02:08:58.399 --> 02:09:09.399
gate. He said it. And
few few, whatever, make it through.

1286
02:09:13.479 --> 02:09:18.600
Only those ready to go onward are
those who have passed through this great

1287
02:09:18.720 --> 02:09:24.239
school of life and who have learned
something from it. Most people live each

1288
02:09:24.319 --> 02:09:28.760
day of their life and learn nothing, absolutely nothing. They discuss nothing,

1289
02:09:30.720 --> 02:09:39.720
They attribute great importance to nothing.
They sit and watch television and ignore that

1290
02:09:39.920 --> 02:09:48.199
which should mean the most to them, and they amount to nothing, and

1291
02:09:48.359 --> 02:09:52.640
they create nothing, And indeed,
because of all of this, they are

1292
02:09:54.279 --> 02:10:09.079
nothing. Many people resent, resent
being confronted with truth in their life.

1293
02:10:11.239 --> 02:10:16.039
That's too bad. As long as
you listen to this broadcast, ladies and

1294
02:10:16.079 --> 02:10:20.079
gentlemen, you will get nothing but
the closest thing to the truth that I

1295
02:10:20.199 --> 02:10:26.239
can find in my life. And
I will shove it down your throats until

1296
02:10:26.239 --> 02:10:31.479
you either swallow it and begin to
live by the truth, or I bury

1297
02:10:31.520 --> 02:10:37.199
you with it. And those who
practice the lies and deception that you fall

1298
02:10:37.279 --> 02:10:43.880
into on a daily basis enslave you
once again. And take away any chance

1299
02:10:45.199 --> 02:10:56.600
that you have ever had. And
that is the ultimate truth with which you

1300
02:10:56.680 --> 02:11:01.800
are faced today, this minute,
this hour, and that above all else

1301
02:11:03.520 --> 02:11:13.760
you had better understand. Good night, and God bless you all, and

1302
02:11:13.119 --> 02:11:22.399
there will be no more Wacos in
this country if I have to give my

1303
02:11:22.600 --> 02:11:28.960
life to stop it, and if
you care about anything in this entire universe,

1304
02:11:28.039 --> 02:11:48.960
you had better be there with me. All right, good music,

1305
02:11:48.039 --> 02:11:58.279
but let's uh, let's carry on
here. M hmm. There's too much

1306
02:11:58.399 --> 02:12:01.880
more to you know, try to
fit it all in this one. But

1307
02:12:01.359 --> 02:12:09.000
we should be getting the idea right
now. We went over the true story

1308
02:12:09.119 --> 02:12:15.279
day fifty one, the true story
of Waco, and then we just were

1309
02:12:15.359 --> 02:12:18.760
listening to Did They Move into Me? The Initiatives of the Flame revisited by

1310
02:12:18.960 --> 02:12:24.720
Bill Cooper, and that original broadcast
was October fifth, nineteen ninety four,

1311
02:12:24.800 --> 02:12:31.680
replayed on the nineteen ninety nine.
Okay, one other thing I just wanted

1312
02:12:31.720 --> 02:12:39.239
to point out as I was making
a couple more notes here. There has

1313
02:12:39.279 --> 02:12:43.840
been some things said to me that
I am still looking for information on to

1314
02:12:43.000 --> 02:12:54.000
verify. But at the moment it
appears that another potential motive behind the Waco

1315
02:12:54.239 --> 02:12:58.560
thing where they murdered a bunch of
children for no reason, a bunch of

1316
02:12:58.640 --> 02:13:01.520
innocent people for no reason. Could
have had something to do with the fact

1317
02:13:01.600 --> 02:13:09.119
that the Clinton drug trade and Mena, Arkansas was being shifted over or expanded

1318
02:13:09.199 --> 02:13:13.600
into a quiet little town by named
Boaco, and they wanted them out of

1319
02:13:13.640 --> 02:13:20.560
there. And the only agents that
happened to die during that siege were all

1320
02:13:22.039 --> 02:13:26.439
part of Bill Clinton or prior you
know, security detail for Bill Clinton.

1321
02:13:28.119 --> 02:13:39.000
Hm hm hm and uh were they
killed by their own then? Because how

1322
02:13:39.000 --> 02:13:46.119
would the Davidians know who is who
think? When he brings up the plan

1323
02:13:46.439 --> 02:13:50.359
when he's talked about the great work
or the plan, who was who was

1324
02:13:50.479 --> 02:13:54.800
q and On actually talking to when
he was saying trust the plan? Was

1325
02:13:54.840 --> 02:13:58.279
he talking to his brothers or are
they talking to their brothers? Or were

1326
02:13:58.319 --> 02:14:03.840
they talking to the people that were
diligently trying to pop up brand new channels

1327
02:14:03.920 --> 02:14:09.479
just to decipher to cipher Lucififer,
Lucififer the Quanan stuff. I don't know.

1328
02:14:11.680 --> 02:14:15.439
There's a There was a movie called
Angel Heart a long time ago,

1329
02:14:16.159 --> 02:14:26.319
and the h the devil is played
by m Robert de Niro and his name

1330
02:14:26.439 --> 02:14:31.039
is Louis Because it's in Uh,
it's like a New Orleanswars. So it's

1331
02:14:31.079 --> 02:14:37.880
like Louis, but it's Louis Cipher. Get it Lucifer. Anyway, there's

1332
02:14:37.920 --> 02:14:43.840
also the symbols of the three drops
of blood on the lance Paracelsus, who

1333
02:14:45.039 --> 02:14:50.680
was an alchemist and U a little
bit of an interesting character, magician and

1334
02:14:50.760 --> 02:14:58.479
all that. One of the ideas
apparently of him was to whatever weapon caused

1335
02:14:58.520 --> 02:15:01.479
the wound, was to take blood
from that person and put it on that

1336
02:15:01.960 --> 02:15:05.000
thing in order to heal the wound. And that goes right back to the

1337
02:15:05.880 --> 02:15:09.159
mystery schools. When you look at
the three jossa blood and the lance thing,

1338
02:15:09.760 --> 02:15:15.560
that's where that idea I bet from
the alchemical brain of his was derived.

1339
02:15:18.600 --> 02:15:20.079
And he said the cosmic comedy,
and I was thinking, oh,

1340
02:15:20.199 --> 02:15:26.880
so we're trapped in Dante ruh,
that's nice um. And then and then

1341
02:15:26.880 --> 02:15:31.039
when he's going on and on about
towards the end there, I couldn't help

1342
02:15:31.039 --> 02:15:37.600
but think of how they're molding Trump
to throw them back out and give us

1343
02:15:37.600 --> 02:15:43.399
all the circus that we want in
a bower burn. That was another another

1344
02:15:45.000 --> 02:15:48.640
theme there at the end. So
are you going to live by the truth?

1345
02:15:50.560 --> 02:15:56.880
Are you going to act accordingly from
that? Are you going to actually

1346
02:15:56.920 --> 02:16:03.000
do what's necessary despite the loss or
the or the danger that it may cause

1347
02:16:03.159 --> 02:16:11.359
you personally, or are you just
going to stick and move, bob and

1348
02:16:11.439 --> 02:16:18.319
weave until you're until believing yourself and
that's the world. Do you live for

1349
02:16:18.359 --> 02:16:28.600
your children? I don't know.
We could all do better tomorrow. I

1350
02:16:28.680 --> 02:16:35.520
have Robert Scott Bell on at eleven
am Pacific time. Okay, I believe

1351
02:16:35.559 --> 02:16:41.159
that's what it is. I had
to figure that out. It was eleven

1352
02:16:41.319 --> 02:16:45.239
him or twelve. I will find
out. I have to look at that

1353
02:16:45.319 --> 02:16:46.319
message again. Yeah, I'll tell
you right now. You know, I

1354
02:16:46.360 --> 02:16:50.040
think I have it in there.
That's gotta remember who the last part it

1355
02:16:50.200 --> 02:17:01.159
was. Okay, so it's get
to unlooked. It is ten am Pacific

1356
02:17:01.239 --> 02:17:07.760
time. It's eleven am Mountain daylight
time, which is not my time zone.

1357
02:17:07.319 --> 02:17:13.040
And then it is well at three
hours to that living twelve one on

1358
02:17:13.879 --> 02:17:20.000
the East coast. All right,
that will be the time and we shall

1359
02:17:20.840 --> 02:17:24.360
Robert Scott Bell had an amazing interview
with Scott Sharon. You should go check

1360
02:17:24.399 --> 02:17:31.680
out Deep Programming with Grace's Dad.
Very very good channel, very amazing friend

1361
02:17:31.719 --> 02:17:35.799
of mine there, and I feel
very fortunate to call him a friend.

1362
02:17:35.040 --> 02:17:39.680
He's a very good human being.
Scott and uh, I couldn't help but

1363
02:17:41.079 --> 02:17:46.040
just click on so many levels.
When I was listening to Robert that,

1364
02:17:46.879 --> 02:17:50.840
I was like, hey, John, to come on and fortunately, yes,

1365
02:17:52.600 --> 02:17:56.440
all right, guys, I will
see you tomorrow ten am my time,

1366
02:17:56.719 --> 02:18:00.600
and maybe I should get some rest
now and kind of get ready for

1367
02:18:00.639 --> 02:18:03.079
that. It's like eight hours and
I stopped to make a thumbnail for it,

1368
02:18:07.079 --> 02:18:09.840
all right. That takes so long. You have no idea, Like

1369
02:18:09.879 --> 02:18:11.239
you're cutting out a little things that
you want to like make it kind of

1370
02:18:11.399 --> 02:18:13.879
unique, so you take away out
of the background if it's not a PM

1371
02:18:15.159 --> 02:18:18.760
file where the background is already removed. So I'm playing around with this,

1372
02:18:20.239 --> 02:18:22.440
you know, now, so great
software. There's a lot of little fine

1373
02:18:22.479 --> 02:18:26.959
details. You gotta hit it out, edge it out and make this one.

1374
02:18:28.200 --> 02:18:30.920
Oh my god, I got my
thumbnail and you use it once and

1375
02:18:31.000 --> 02:18:35.479
then you go on, Yeah,
so rolls. Anyway, I was made

1376
02:18:35.479 --> 02:18:45.760
about five let's see now, let's
call it forty seven forty six with the

1377
02:18:45.840 --> 02:18:50.760
internet orders forty seven one hundred dollars
worth of hot sauce and the last week

1378
02:18:52.319 --> 02:18:56.319
it would have been more of a
didn't wholesale it, but at it anyway.

1379
02:18:56.959 --> 02:19:00.639
I'm a little tired than I deserve
to be, and I went to

1380
02:19:00.639 --> 02:19:05.200
the gym today because I not back
down on that at all. It legs.

1381
02:19:05.600 --> 02:19:09.280
You know how much of that takes
away from your leg You're systemic energy.

1382
02:19:09.479 --> 02:19:13.479
Because there's such big bossles, they
just drain you. I hated legs

1383
02:19:13.479 --> 02:19:16.399
forever and they wouldn't even do it. Just a little stupid things, but

1384
02:19:16.520 --> 02:19:18.239
not like anything major. Now I'm
like the first thing I do when I

1385
02:19:18.280 --> 02:19:22.239
go in there. Anyway, it
doesn't matter who cares about that, right

1386
02:19:24.440 --> 02:19:30.920
Someday, someday the channel will be
a little intermixed with different themes. Someday.

1387
02:19:31.159 --> 02:19:37.399
Good night, Thank God, bless
you. Wall. Check out Bill

1388
02:19:37.479 --> 02:19:43.319
Cooper over the Time channel. Does
it shoot? Tell them? I said,

1389
02:19:43.360 --> 02:19:48.319
high. It's not obviously him,
but it's a guy whose email is

1390
02:19:48.360 --> 02:19:52.520
a bit shoy Bill, which is
kind of cool. Maybe his name is

1391
02:19:52.520 --> 02:19:58.840
Bill too. I never asked description. Okay, now I'm gonna leave for

1392
02:20:01.479 --> 02:20:03.799
expect at least three more parts of
this. I think if I can get

1393
02:20:03.840 --> 02:20:07.200
these all in, if I have
the time to do it. It's a

1394
02:20:07.280 --> 02:20:11.399
lot of information here, a lot
of information, a lot of videos that

1395
02:20:11.760 --> 02:20:16.159
I need to share with you so
that you get the core foundation of why

1396
02:20:16.280 --> 02:20:20.399
this is so goddamn important to not
just let happen to us. Of Christ's

1397
02:20:20.399 --> 02:20:22.760
sake, we will all be wago. And if that doesn't happen immediately,

1398
02:20:24.040 --> 02:20:30.360
and it's a slow atrophy of us
and a slow you know, war by

1399
02:20:30.399 --> 02:20:33.639
a war of attrition that's been happening
for the last one hundred and fifty years,

1400
02:20:33.479 --> 02:20:37.680
is that any better when the ultimate
all come and they sped it up.

1401
02:20:37.719 --> 02:20:43.239
By the way, let's get rid
of this police stay. Let's get

1402
02:20:43.360 --> 02:20:46.239
rid of anything that's extra constitutional.
That would be a hell of a start.

1403
02:20:46.520 --> 02:20:50.159
Let's hold them to the letter.
What doesn't matter who sits there,

1404
02:20:50.200 --> 02:20:56.959
if they're doing the actual job,
forced them to do it. Force of

1405
02:20:56.120 --> 02:21:01.079
arms is if it necessary, force
of cutting off their arms and stabbing them

1406
02:21:01.120 --> 02:21:05.479
on spikes and showing them to everybody
else who focks around. Hey, this

1407
02:21:05.600 --> 02:21:09.200
is what happens when you have around. Don't do it. Knock it off, ye