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Sports Talk Radio starting now. What's
up everybody, and welcome to episode

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two hundred and ten of Let Me
Get That Potograph. We are back.

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The holidays are over. Twenty twenty
four is in effect, and we are

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kicking kicking it off right with a
big episode for you guys. So glad

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to be back. We'll be back
all year long now on vacations are over.

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But as always, my name is
Drew or the d H and joining

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me my awesome co host, mister
Scott Rappaford. What's up there? What's

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going on Drew? Not too much, man, getting back in the swing

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of things. Just traveling like crazy
and buying a lot of cards. It's

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not traveling like crazy and uh selling
a lot of cards? Yes you did,

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Yes you did. Yeah, so
I know exactly. So that was

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a that was a good time.
But yeah, a lot of stuff.

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So check this out, man.
So our buddy was over the house buying

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some stuff and I get this email
from Panini. Finally two cards that I

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sent in damage back in twenty twenty
one, or maybe it was twenty twenty.

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I don't let me twenty twenty replaced. I know. Well, one

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of them came a couple of days
later. It's this nice orange laser Antonio

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Gibson beautiful, which was the same
which was the card that I sent in

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or have replaced damage, But it
was cut on like an angles instead of

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being streamed down. It was like
it was like that and the Yeah.

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So the other one was another crappy
top to bottom, but not too bad.

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No, no, no, no, this was fine. Like I

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if I if the one they sent
me, if I'd pulled this out of

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a pack, I would not have
complained. I wouldn't have sent it in.

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The other one was cut the same
way, another crappy lineman rookie,

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and that one was sent separately.
And we'll be back today or tomorrow.

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There you go. Yeah, so
we got the same card back, you

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know, And they're I mean,
guys, people have to understand this when

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they send in for replacement. I
see so many people in groups like Geo's

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room sports hard nonsense for a lot
of new people in the room, a

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lot of people not familiar with the
process, and so they say, oh,

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I sent in for a replacement two
months ago, and I want to

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explain to people why they're so backed
up. So many people back in twenty

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twenty one were sending in replacement cards
every Zion, every JAW, all of

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those cards. Anything that was pulled
that was eligible to be done that they

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didn't think was perfect was sent back. So their backlog on this is like

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when PSA had the couple million card
backlog, Like this is people were sending

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it to the point where they literally
ran out of their extras for Zion and

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job yep. So I mean it, and a lot of cards that were

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sent in weren't even really eligible for
replacements, right, that's the other thing.

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But there's another piece to that puzzle
as well. So that was part

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of it. But the other part
of it is they just don't have enough

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people working in that department. Of
course not you know, same thing with

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the redemptions. They don't have enough
people. That's why some of these backlogs.

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And then you know, again redemption
is another issue because sometimes they're waiting

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on athletes to sign and get them
get stuff back to them, right,

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but there is no but there's like
nobody there to fill the orders. No,

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there's no there's no to process at
once. The athletes do sign it.

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That's why you see a signing and
you see one person get it,

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and then it takes three months for
the others. They just don't have demand

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power to actually physically do that.
But hey, at least you got some

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cards back that no, I know, he look, you know, I'm

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not you know, I mean,
I really didn't care about these. They're

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you know, dollars two dollars cards. It's not a big right, you

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know. Hey, finally they're moved. Maybe some of these redemptions of it

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too. So yeah, that's my
exciting piece of the week. Very nice.

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Yeah, I had a good time
at the Raleigh show. It was

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a very good show. I will
say first show at twenty twenty four inside

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Pitch Promotions, their first show.
Shout out to West and John and Katie

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at the new owners. They killed
it. The Raleigh show was insane.

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They set records. There was over
seven hundred kids and over fifteen hundred people

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that entered both nights. It was
it was massive. So that was a

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lot of fun, great show.
I like seeing that. You know,

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at the beginning of twenty twenty four, this is when kids are going right

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back to school, some people still
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like it's not deep into the year, and yet a show can be that

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strong. And it was nasty out
so barring terrible weather, all that amazing

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show. But so what you're saying
is what you're really saying is you know

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you didn't make the nine mile trek
down to Durham to go to Kshak and

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get some solid barbecue when you were
down there, right, Yes, I

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didn't, dude. You're missing out, dude, like I haven't had it.

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But anyway, anyway, guys,
let's dive into Scott because we got

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a couple of pretty interesting topics today, my friend and one of them,

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let's start with an update. A
couple I guess months ago now, we

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mentioned on the show that lebron James
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their website, and obviously that's not
a screw up on a website or anything

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like that. You don't mess that
up. And he was taken away in

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multiple places. Well, then the
rumors came out that Lebron and Bronny would

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be on the same card in bowmen
U and all that, and Lebron was

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coming to Fanatics. Well, after
that happened, and after that news dropped,

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there was a lot of question of
if he was actually going to sign

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or if this was a one off
deal. Not meant much information was found

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out about that, whether Michael Rubin
had gotten him to do one little thing,

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or if Lebron was a Fanatics athlete. Well, Tops put it out

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the other day, Fanatics put it
out the other day. Lebron looking at

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a massive contract with probably a lot
of zero's attached. Yeah, but he

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is officially a Fanatics athlete now.
And we had this confirmed, you know,

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at least a month ago. Yes, you know, when we talked

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about it, when he was you
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and all that kind of stuff,
we knew it was a question on on

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how involved he was going to be, right, and Tops kind of showed

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you right there with their first post. This is a lot more than I'm

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going to sign a couple of cards
with my son. Like we're we're getting

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a lot of Lebron. And I
know, people like yourself that aren't fans

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could care less. But for the
hobby, it's very interesting. For the

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basketball hobby, it's huge in terms
of you're gonna be getting Lebron cards,

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tops, chromes, stuff could come
back. There's reprint and all these other

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cool things that they could really do
with Lebron. You've got literally almost twenty

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years of stuff that you can go
through and use that you can't use before,

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don't. I don't think that they
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the NBA like, well, they
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Well, no, that is true, so eventually you could see some reprints.

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That's what I'm saying. What they
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back Audo. Yes, they could
do buyback autos YEP, which I wouldn't

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put it past them to do.
Imagine having a you know, Bowman you

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product and all of a sudden you
pull a you know, you pull a

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buy back auto of Bowman Chrome,
you know, Lebron Rookie on card auto.

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That would be kind of cool.
Well, I also believe, and

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please anyone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm also I'm not. I

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know for a fact they can do
the high school stuff, the Saint Vincent,

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Saint Mary's, and I believe they
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percent sure they can do to us
that I'm not entirely sure. I don't

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know who owns the license on Yeah, I think they can because I've seen

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USA jerseys and other products before.
I'm not sure. Panini may have changed

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that with the latest you know,
yeah, changes all the time. But

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you can do the Saint Vincent,
Saint Mary's stuff, which has always been

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highly collectible to begin with. But
you also you get Lebron post retirement because

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a lot of people didn't realize that
when Lebron hangs it up until this move

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happened. Once he was done,
it's like Jordan, he's done. Like

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Panini would not be able to make
or Tops would not have been able to

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make any Lebron James cards, would
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on any card, licensed or not
once he retired, if he remained at

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Upper Deck. So this really changes
the outlook of all Lebron cards in the

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future. This is a very big
move that I I don't think a lot

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of people understand how big. I
would agree now. The only question that

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I have is we know upper Deck
pulled them pulled Lebron off of the exclusives

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list for their athletes. My question
now is and we don't know the answer

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to this is is this deal with
Fanatics an exclusive agreement or is he still

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going to be Is he going to
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Yeah, that's a good question because
I'm sure he had some stuff he had

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to fulfill with upper Deck. He
also was upper Deck memorabilia. All that

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type of stuff goes into play.
So there's a lot more than just cards

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and things like that, you know. So yeah, it will be interesting

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to see and you know, yeah, it is one thing. You know,

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Yes, his son's coming into the
league, and obviously that's something cool

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and something neat to do. As
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I would think that's awesome. I
know Ted Graffy and Ken Griffy Junior probably

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love doing it, The Ripkens,
all all of them. You know,

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it's been seen before. It's been
done before, just not on this scale.

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But Top showed you yesterday and there's
a lot of They didn't say it,

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but if you read between the lines
at what they're saying, you look

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at the contract, and you look
at how Tops promotes things on social media,

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they're telling you right now, this
isn't just lebron and Bronnie. No,

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No, it's much more than that, more than that. And because

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if it was just bron and Brownie, a Brownie would have been in that

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put b they would have been talking
more about Bowman you and not about the

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future. They would be talking about
the stuff that they're releasing right now,

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because I'll tell you right now,
the brown and Brownie Junior stuff that's gonna

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last a year of major hype and
then some of those cards are gonna be

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worth a lot of money. The
others are going to be cool hits.

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That's it. That's what's gonna happen. It always does. So TOPS told

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you yesterday. No, We've got
a lot more in store for Lebron.

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Now. I do think you're gonna
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know, stuff we're probably gonna see
with Bronni. I think once Fanatics gets

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the NBA license, assuming Bronni is
in the NBA at that point, I

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think we are going to see dual
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Bronni. Just a matter of you
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What team? You know what?
What picture are they going to use?

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With Lebron, I I could even
see them doing some photoshop images of you

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know, you know, like a
short print, you know, auto of

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like uh, you know Bronni with
you know, his dad and a piggy,

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you know whatever, you know,
on the court with him, you

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know, playing against him or maybe
even playing with him, depending on what

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team Bronni goes to. There's a
lot of things that they can do with

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it once they get that license in
a couple of years. So I don't

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I don't think that we're going to
see the end of the Lebron Bronni duel

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autos with with both. No,
I didn't mean the end. I just

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met, you know, after his
first year. They're gonna stay or you

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know, or shelf life on that
is, you know kind of where he

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was. Yeah. No, absolutely, And you know the other thing that

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this impact and we talked about it
a little bit before and then we'll move

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on because we've got a couple of
really interesting topics today. But you know,

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all these lebron sales, all these
massive sales of his huge cards.

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I mean, we just saw one
surface at the very end of the year

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shine one point fifty of course,
out of course, of course puts out

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the Lebron MJ Dual Logo Man Auto
from Exquisite that was thought to be in

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boxes still. So I mean,
like those type of cards, all those

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cards and all those sales were all
predicated on the fact that when he retired,

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he wasn't going to have anything because
no one thought he was leaving up

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for deck. No one thought he
was leaving up for deck during those sales.

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It wasn't even a consideration. Now, up up until a couple of

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months ago, there was no speculating
to get now. But now, what

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is this going to do to his
rookie market because the rookie autos were limited

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the total number of actual licensed,
fully licensed autos. I don't think it's

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limited it's going to do anything.
I don't think it's gonna do anything with

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it because anything, you know,
anything that's done, like as a buyback

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auto or a reprint auto or anything
like that, it's still gonna be well

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known that it was signed after the
fact. No, No, I mean,

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what does it do to those original
rookie cards, like I want to

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see, Okay, I think I
think there's still going to be valuable.

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I don't think it's going to hurt
the value at all. I think that.

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I think some cards that held a
lot of money. Because of that

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fact, we'll see a slight dip. I don't think the chrome blacks,

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the refractors, the big cards,
the big rookies, none of that stuff's

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going to take a hit. I
do, however, see some of the

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lower end rookies and things like that
take a little bit of a dit,

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and maybe some of this stuff that
comes out after might end up surpassing it.

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But we'll see one way or the
other. Lebron with Tops sounds weird

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to say, but Lebron officially with
Tops, he signed his contract, and

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uh, we'll keep you updated on
everything that happened so far and anything that

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happens. Uh. I guess shoot, Bowman's Bowman you Best is coming out

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soon. So we're gonna get that
Bron to the auto, that first one

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by Tops pretty soon. Yeah,
it's coming yeah, get ready all right?

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Speaking of boxes, yeah, uh, Prism football, Oh yes,

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I did talk about that for a
few minutes here, because there's some some

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big cards that have already been pulled, yeah, which is not a shock.

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Usually there's you know, within a
couple of days of release, there's

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usually some big stuff. Your boy
Pooka. His Black Finite auto saw the

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light of day very early on and
uh, the guy who pulled it through

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up in one of the Facebook groups
asking thirty grand or best offer, and

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it is sold. Yeah, we
don't know what it's sold for. I

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know, you know, you talk
about it for the show. I'm going

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to guess and I'll I'm pretty sure
it's going to be around the I'd say

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it between twenty two and twenty five, Okay, I mean it's it's reasonable

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first pro Uni auto. Yeah,
and it's and it's a prison black Finite,

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which we all know, you know, carry is an extraordinary amount of

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value compared to other one of ones
you know that that hit the market at

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different times from different products. So, but it seems like there's a lot

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of stuff. I know, the
first off the line black C J.

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Stroud got pulled, Yes it did, but we still haven't seen the Black

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Finite from him yet. We know
we're not going to see autos from him

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in there either. No, And
that's been interesting because you know, I

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think Puka, for example, I
think that card sold for that much money.

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One of the reasons it did is
granted, he had an insane season

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for records, but there's no quarterback
autos outside of Anthony Richardson. There's him

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and Bjeon Robinson to chase in autos, and so I think I think that

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had a little bit to help to
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don't know how much that is,
especially with Prism, because again, Prism

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has never really been about the autos. No, but when you're dying,

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when you're dying for autos these players
and they're in nothing, and then you

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get these big release, Prism being
the first big release that obviously you know

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they're not in, it does take
a toll. Go take go, take

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a look at Herbert Mahomes, some
of the last couple guys that have you

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know, Burrow, people like that
Philly Prison autos. They hold value.

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You know, it's not all about
them. I'm not saying. I'm not

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saying they don't hold value. It's
just the you know, there's other products

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where it really is about the audit
contenders, Optic all that treasure you know,

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and tea and you know and stuff
like that. You know, the

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traditionally the Prism release has just been
about the color, the numbered color.

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The silvers have held a ton of
value what you're seeing with the lack of

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those autos, you're seeing those colors
and those numbers of those quarterbacks that we're

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talking about their skyrocketing. Those cards
are worth so much money. And that's

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what I love is non audit cards. Getting that love. Prism always reminds

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you of that. No, I
agree. Now, here's here's my question,

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and this is what we haven't I
haven't seen a ton of it lately.

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But usually you know, cards like
that one on one Puka come from

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Breaker. Yeah, and you know
there's always anytime a big product drops like

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this, you know, you get
guys like like Backyard and you know,

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stuff like that. They're they're always
accused of opening loaded boxes. Yes,

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I haven't seen a ton of that
with the Breakers and Prism. No,

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this year I have. I have
not seen much of that at all.

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Obviously, big burgers pulling big stuff
is going to happen. I mean it's

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I mean, well, they're just
the quantity and how the scale, which

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is different than what you and I
opened when we you know, grab a

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box off the shelf, right,
and so like I'm saying that I've seen

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Breakers pull some big stuff, but
not to the extent that we saw last

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year. I have seen some interesting
packs. It seems like there's a couple.

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There's a couple quote unquote god packs
that have been opened so far that

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I have two. One of one's
in them. Two black finites in the

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pack. Yeah, two black finites
most of the time. They're the two

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that I saw. One was Party
and Brett fav together. Now that one

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actually that one's actually being accused of
being resealed, even though I don't think

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it is. It was a Brett
Favre insert and then a Party. The

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other one was another insert and then
a rookie. I don't know who it

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was, but I've seen two packs
so far are But you mentioned loaded boxes,

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and while it isn't necessarily on PRISM, there is quite a bit of

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chatter and I don't want to go
through too much of it right now because

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I want to get all the facts
before we discuss everything, because everyone knows

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we don't have to ask when we
want to talk about stuff. Right there

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is a lot of chatter and a
lot of stuff coming out right now about

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certain people in this industry possibly getting
loaded boxes right now, and you from

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some of the stuff I've seen,
I tend to err on the side of

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believing it, and from what I've
seen, I tend to see I tend

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to believe it in a way as
well. But I'd like all the information

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to come out. But in terms
of prism, no, I haven't seen

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any latent sports cards opening up five
one on ones, and there are all

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the time guys, you know,
I haven't seen any of that this year.

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I also think you's only nine days
old, man. Yeah, I

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know, all right, so a
third of the pros Yeah, no,

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exactly, but no, it's look, here's the thing. You know,

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we mentioned it before, we mentioned
Look, the uh, there is a

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higher probability that the breakers are going
to pull bigger hits, of course,

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solely because they are opening such a
large quantity of the product. Right,

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It's got nothing to do well in
theory before what you were talking about a

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minute ago. Uh, you know
before, it's a little different on that

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end, exactly right. Once,
you know, once we have more information

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on it, we'll talk about that. But you know, prior to that,

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let's assume that that you know,
let's assume that hasn't happened yet or

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anything like that. What we know
is that breakers get accused of ripping loaded

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boxes and things like that. So
far there has been no evidence that they

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do. But again it's a quantity
based thing. You whip that much,

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you are bound to hit. I
think that's where even the new people that

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you know into the whole backyard thing
and all this stuff, because if you

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notice, remember how they had that
thing where it was like, okay,

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the odds of them pulling these four
cards were just so stupidly astronomical. Well,

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okay, guys, what's happened since
then? You can't do that post

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again? Right, So now let's
add all these months where they didn't hit

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all these massive cards. Let's put
that into the data, and then let's

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you know what I mean, Like
it's so one sided to like bash a

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lot of breakers. That's what a
lot of people were doing. They were

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trying to do that to put other
breakers down, put breakers that they didn't

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like down. Backyard breaks was bashed
when they came out, brash when they

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came out. They did all this
stuff, They bashed other breakers. They

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did all this was not a fan
but they weren't doing anything wrong. They

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just opened a shitload of stuff and
they got lucky. It Literally, the

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guy said it was akin to hitting
the lottery. Okay, they hit the

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lottery, then someone in all all
the boxes that all the breakers open one

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breaker. Eventually he's going to hit
the lockery and have a crazy run.

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And speaking of speaking of crazy runs
and hitting the lottery, Yeah, twenty

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twenty three Bowman Draft has been out
for what a month now? Yeah,

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we still haven't seen that gold tom
Brady auto exactly. No, we've seen

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plenty of other gold tom Brady autos, but not number two. It wasn't

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opened by your favorite influencer on their
preview box. It wasn't opened up on

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your favorite influencer to hate, I
should say, yeah, the preview box.

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It wasn't opened up by that breaker
that you can't stand that. You

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think it's loaded boxes. No,
it's out there in the ether, yeah,

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as well as the other and since
twelve to twenty five isn't out there

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either. Super Fractor got hit quickly. Yeah, but I think people have

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finally just caught on. I think
people have finally just caught on. And

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if they haven't, the last five
minutes a show and maybe you will catch

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on that the stuff was bullshit.
All that up was bullshit. People wanting

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to complain, and a lot of
new people that just didn't understand things and

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didn't want to understand things because it
was when Whatnot came out, when Luke

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came out, new Breakers coming up, everything was changing. Shocker. A

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lot of people don't like change.
No, that's true. And then then

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you got everybody you know, and
don't get me wrong, every platform has

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their scammers. You know, you
have had a ton of them that happened

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to live on Whatnot. And now
all of a sudden, because one guy

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is a scammer who's on there,
now, all of a sudden, everybody's

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a scammer who's on there, which
isn't the case. You know, people

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are blowing it all out the purpose. Look, one guy gets caught scamming,

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fine, don't don't work with that
guy. I get that. And

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if it's a pro athlete sending the
Panthers way, we'll sign him exactly.

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And it's look, it's just just
that way. It is. Yeah.

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So but yeah, no, a
lot of I mean, look, there's

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a lot of shit. Shit going
on. But speaking of shady ship,

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let's take a break really quick here, and when we come back, we're

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going to be talking about so really, really shady fit. Yeah, this

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is this is fun. Yeah.
So, uh, a couple of weird

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ones coming up, so stay tuned. Yeah, I gotta go pay that

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HVAC guy. We're gonna add an
extra couple of commercials in here, and

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we'll be back right after that.
And we are back for putting up with

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advertisements. And uh, before the
break, we talked a little bit about

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now, well we teased it a
little bit. Yeah, there's some shady

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shit going on lately in the Hut. There's some shit. Yeah, I

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mean there's always shady shit going well, but it's public. I know this

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is public. So we got we
got two things that that popped up.

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One of them popped up a while
ago, but just recently popped up again.

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And that was a great sec recently
graded a twenty twenty one Bowman draft

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James Wood Gold Refractor Auto. Yes, and James Wood wasn't in that product.

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James Wood was in the twenty twenty
two product. Now what we know

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is that he was supposed to be
in twenty twenty one Bowman. Yeah,

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they had him sign the cards and
then they made a change and said,

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screw, We're gonna wait till twenty
twenty two. So supposedly all of those

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autos from twenty twenty one got destroyed
except the proposed Yeah, so I'm a

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fault in sec for great in the
card because it's a legit card. It's

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exactly what it is. But obviously
this is another back door situation. Yeah,

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as a gold at A fifty popped
up. Yeah, and how you

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know again this is probably backdoor a
couple of years ago. Yeah, so

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one, why is it popping up
now? And you know two? If

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one was back door, where's the
rest? And who did it? Yeah?

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Well no, there's there's a million
questions and look, okay, so

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so in terms of like why put
it out now? I think you put

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it out now because a it was
in twenty twenty one where a couple of

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years removed from it, So not
as many people are looking out of sight

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out it mind. A lot of
people also forget well about this, Well

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a lot of that's true, forget
about this, and a ton of people

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had no freaking clue of what we're
talking about. That he had cards that

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were destroyed. Now, as it
pertains to this particular card, supposedly right,

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the person who graded it, who
sent it in was picked it up

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as part of a large collection that
they bought, and it was in there,

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yes, except for except for now
that doesn't mean anything, no,

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because the person that pulled it,
when posting it says that they pack pulled

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it from twenty twenty one supposedly.
So there's there's conflicting stories on where this

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came from. And that's why what
I was saying is to answer some of

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those questions that you have. I
think that this person has quite a bit

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more. I would not be surprised
to see another one pop up, and

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I'd say they're going to give it
at least a month to to let it

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die down. I would not be
surprised to see these sold on show floors

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as opposed to auction houses things like
that, private sales pieces of blots.

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But I think this person was able
to backdoor. I mean, we saw

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what happened this year with the player
reps that sign stuff. They took entire

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runs. Now in they're in that
situation. That was a little bit different

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because those guys were stupid and decided
to put them different. But when I'm

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sing no, no, no,
no, no, I mean when I

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say different, I mean the guys
that stole those were dumb enough to put

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them up for sale prior to the
product. There's a million, there's a

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million things that are completely different and
capable of how dumb these people are.

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But I think that all I'm saying
is that this is this shows you that

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entire runs can be taken, you
know what I mean, Like this stuff

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can easily happen. And so I
think he has more of these. James

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Wood is kind of you know,
he's he's gonna be one of the hot

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rookies here very soon, you know, Like, so this is the time

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you would want his stuff more.
And so I think this person was smart

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enough of a thief to say,
don't put him out immediately when everyone's chasing

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the first bowman. Wait a couple
of years. Put it out when he's

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almost to the big leagues. When
that hype ramps up again after it dips

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like it always does, starts off
high dipped a little bit, they're about

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to get called up boom yep.
It's so kind of it. It's not

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ironic to me that this is put
out right now, And so I think

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he's got more. I would not
be surprised if Moore ended up getting graded,

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because, like you said, why
would any grading company not grade it?

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Unlus Top specifically told them not to, which I know they don't,

406
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:47.440
and so I do expect to see
more of these, But this, this

407
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:53.079
is pretty crazy and another another issue
of chain of command when it comes to

408
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.519
this autograph cards. Look, he
want us to pay so much for these

409
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.480
boxes. You want these cards to
be worth so much fucking money. You

410
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:06.880
want everything in this industry to be
so great. What Well, let me

411
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:10.960
let me ask you this. So, prior to these showing up, it's

412
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.480
you know, obviously been assumed that
his first Bowman autos were in right,

413
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:21.319
and the value of those was set
by the market as such. Yeah,

414
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:25.720
now that these have popped up and
they are technically twenty twenty one's, which

415
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.440
is the earlier card, what does
that do to the value of the twenty

416
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:34.599
two that were released in the pack? Right now? To Bowman collectors,

417
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:40.119
I think it's going to be the
packs because pack called stuff like that means

418
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.839
from everything collectors, Yeah, like
that that's everything to them. By backs

419
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.960
don't matter. All that stuff doesn't
matter. Pack cold matters. So for

420
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.000
the Bowman crew, I can die
hards and there's billions of them. I

421
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.480
could easily see them saying that this
card's bullshit. And honestly, I don't

422
00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.240
think it's going to have an effect
on the twenty twenty two is because A,

423
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:03.559
I don't think we're gonna see a
lot of these twenty twenty ones come

424
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.359
out. I think there might only
end up being two or three, maybe

425
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.160
four of them something like that.
You know, maybe he is dumb enough

426
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.440
to put out an entire run,
and maybe he does have tons of colors,

427
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:19.759
and maybe we do end up seeing
a shitload of these cards. But

428
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:23.599
A, I don't believe the pack
pulled part one bit. I do not

429
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.240
think this card was pulled out of
a pack. No, I don't think

430
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:32.960
so either all because if one slipped
through, then multiple would have slipped through.

431
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.240
And we've never seen one so and
no one's come out and said,

432
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.680
hey, I have another. So
I think this was his first attempt to

433
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:47.359
get it a gold one of the
most coveted that's not super out there on

434
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:51.559
the marketplace, and see if he
can push it through and see if anyone

435
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:55.759
would notice it. Unfortunately for him, someone did, But you know,

436
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:59.880
yeah, don't I don't think it's
going to have a major effect on his

437
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.200
is first because I don't consider this
his first boneman. I'm looking at the

438
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:11.079
picture now of the gold I do
not consider what SGC graded to be a

439
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.359
legit card by them. Yes,
it's got all the markings and yes,

440
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:19.359
on the back it probably even says
this is certified autograph all that stuff by

441
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:22.319
TOPS, and it's got all the
copyright and all that stuff. No,

442
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:27.000
this is a backdoor card that should
not exist. Correct that they were supposedly

443
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.920
all destroyed. Yeah, now that's
the big issue. And that's another thing

444
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.680
that we've talked so many times,
how many times this year, Almost every

445
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:40.359
big release there's been some type of
big fuck up when it comes to the

446
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:45.319
printing, the pack out, the
auto something. And yet here we are

447
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:49.680
again with stuff going back to twenty
twenty one now, and it's just this,

448
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.599
this is a separate This is a
separate issue because this isn't an issue

449
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.599
with the packout, This issue with
the This was the way it is because

450
00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:59.759
they had to destroy it, well
they had to destroy it, but they

451
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.559
were were in packs, so it's
not like they were duplicated like the superfractors

452
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:07.160
from Bohm and Chrome, where you
know, this is more akin to the

453
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:12.039
guys who stole the cards from the
signings. Yes, that should have made

454
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.720
it into packs, but didn't.
Because that's my point, like, there's

455
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:21.559
major problems with the chain of command
in these companies, but it's not.

456
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:25.720
And I'm glad you said companies because
it's not just top slash fanatics. Nope,

457
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.119
no, no, no, no, no no, that's what this

458
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:36.119
segments so much fun to talk about. So Spectra Basketball, I love it.

459
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:40.000
Mark Jackson, Mark Jackson, Murky
Mark. What is it with Mark

460
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:45.079
Jackson cards and being infu Now we
had another one, I know that now

461
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:49.160
killer in this one. Yeah,
I was gonna say that the Menendez brothers

462
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.160
are not picked in this one.
However, what is pictured in this one

463
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:57.359
as an autograph that doesn't belong to
him? Oh my god. Now Spectra

464
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:01.519
Sticker Autos and somebody, somebody who
pulled it, you know, posted the

465
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:05.759
picture up and said, hey,
this does not look like Mark Jackson's auto.

466
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.680
I have no idea who signed it, but it's not Mark Jackson.

467
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:15.079
And guess who replied to that post, mister Mark Jackson, Mark Jackson himself.

468
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:19.839
And it was a one word reply. It just said nope, nope,

469
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:23.319
yeah, and that was it.
Yeah. So obviously we know that

470
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:30.160
in the past they're signatures on stickers
by people that were not actually the person

471
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:35.160
that was supposedly signed, and on
card ones too. Yeah, we had

472
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:39.359
the the Arosa Rain Austin Meadows du
Alatto, we have the Woody and Buzz

473
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:45.759
light Year toy story, duel Atto
probably sign employee. I guarantee you that

474
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:50.680
Woody and Buzz did not sign that
card. Still trying to figure that one

475
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:54.759
out, but now we have Yeah, so now it's not like it's Mark

476
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:59.119
Jackson. It's hard to get a
hold of it's actually Leaf. Leaf had

477
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:01.920
a problem last year with one of
the players, but that that seemed to

478
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:06.599
be more of a you know,
one of the players representatives signed off on

479
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:10.280
it and didn't tell the player and
then proceeded to forge the autographs on those.

480
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.719
So I'm sorry. I wasn't a
player. As an actor, I

481
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:17.360
was the game played Jason from the
Visional Friday thirteen. But this kind of

482
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:22.920
stuff is popping up, and how
did this passed quality assurance is beyond me.

483
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:30.119
Well, and also what's really scary
is that there's sticker autos, so

484
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:38.000
someone's obviously forging Mark Jackson auto and
Mark Jackson coming out and saying nope as

485
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:43.119
a one word reply, Yeah,
if this was him or not? Pretty

486
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:46.519
much is him saying I didn't sign
this and I didn't have anybody sign it,

487
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:52.039
because he wouldn't have answered had he
said, Hey, Couz, come

488
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.440
here, I'll pay you to sign
this, because then who's gonna get caught

489
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:59.480
and who's gonna get the blame,
who's gonna get the exactly Mark Jackson.

490
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:04.400
So if he he's going to come
out and respond publicly immediately and just say

491
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:07.760
nope, that means he has nothing
to worry about in his mind. I'm

492
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:14.079
ever even investigating or thinking that he
was the one that signed this, which

493
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:16.599
which also which also probably means that
the rest of the Mark Jackson autos that

494
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:22.920
are in that product are not real
either. Well, I'd have to go

495
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:25.480
through and look more, because I
mean, it's plain as day to see

496
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:30.079
which ones are his and which ones
aren't. His signatures stayed the same for

497
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:34.960
a long time and it's very simple, and for some reason these people tried

498
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:38.599
to make it I don't know,
really crazy. But we've got someone now,

499
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:43.280
we were just talking about someone.
You know. The chain of command

500
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:47.000
on holding cards and how you can
backdoor and things like that. Now we've

501
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:51.880
got to worry about the chain of
command of fucking stickers of Mark Jackson,

502
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:58.920
like someone is legitimately forging these autos
and getting them onto stickers, and the

503
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.440
vetting of it these employees. Now, granted, a lot of these employees

504
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:08.320
have worked for each other and everything
else. But Mark Rubin want to make

505
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:12.840
this massive. You know, he
wants to Hobby to ten x or whatever,

506
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.599
one hundred x whatever his stuff was. Yeah, to do that,

507
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:22.599
you have to literally start from the
ground floor in my opinion, right now,

508
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:28.119
and you have to change and you
have to upgrade everything when it comes

509
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.199
to the chain of command from the
time that card is designed on a computer

510
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:37.880
to the time it walks out.
Because whether it's tops, Panini, Leaf,

511
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:43.559
any of them, they're all having
massive, massive problems. And I

512
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:46.760
have a feeling they know who these
people are. I have a feeling these

513
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:51.880
people get fired quietly. I have
a feeling they think that, you know,

514
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:53.559
we've taken it up the ass for
so long, and why not,

515
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:59.000
we'll just deal with it again.
But there comes a time where the Hobby

516
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.159
needs to say, all right,
guys, like one or a couple of

517
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:05.440
mistakes a year or something like that. Yeah, we get, but like

518
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:09.000
I just said earlier, with one
company, every big release had a major

519
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:14.920
issue, and then you come over
to another company and they've had countless issues

520
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:20.880
this year as well. This is
not something that should be accepted in any

521
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:24.119
way, shape or form, and
in most other hobbies and most other collectibles

522
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:29.800
in most other industries would not be
acceptable. No, what gets me.

523
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.280
What gets me is that as time
goes on, the technology gets better and

524
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.360
better that is supposedly going to be
there to prevent things like this from happening,

525
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:42.159
right, But what we're seeing now
is the exact opposite, and that

526
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:47.239
things like this are happening more often
yep than when we had crappy technology that

527
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:52.559
provide oversight, you know, and
things like that. So why, right,

528
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:57.480
why why are we not using the
the things that we have at our

529
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:02.440
disposal to make things better? And
why are we seeing all of these massive

530
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:07.199
mistakes come out? You know,
when we are at a point technologically as

531
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:13.599
a society that we have the tools
to prevent this shit from happening. Yeah.

532
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:17.519
No, And the Mark Jackson went
honestly is just so funny to me,

533
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:22.880
because no one in their right mind
would have cared if okay, let's

534
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:28.239
say the cards at a like thirty
five, if they only got thirty four

535
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.519
stickers back, and so there was
an asterisk and said Mark Jackson only thirty

536
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:35.320
four of this parallel. No one
would give a shit. They do that

537
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.840
all they do that all the time. Yeah, Instead, we're forging things.

538
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:42.960
Now, we're forging stickers like and
once again, like I said,

539
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.360
normally I would say, okay,
he had a buddy Doe. No,

540
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.920
no, no, no, no, not no, Mark Jackson. I

541
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:51.639
don't think in any way, shape
or form, because, like I said,

542
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:55.639
you don't answer like that. Being
a public figure that Mark Jackson is,

543
00:38:55.679 --> 00:39:01.519
you do not provide that answer because
if you have any reason to think

544
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:05.760
that, they would look into you
and possibly figure something out. So,

545
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:07.880
yeah, this isn't This isn't the
same as like when Joe Montana used to

546
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:12.199
have his wife sign all of his
autographs. Right, this is different because

547
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:14.559
he would never I mean, he
would never run up to that because you

548
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:19.800
know he was complicit in it.
But you know him coming out and saying,

549
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.960
no, there's no way I did
not sign that. There's zero shows

550
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:27.079
you're right there and they're now forging
stickers yeah. Well the question is who

551
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.039
is forging? Well, yeah,
you know, but that's it. That's

552
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:34.280
another that's about to say. We'd
run out of time before I could get

553
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:39.079
into that. I know so,
but uh, speaking of time, yeah,

554
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:42.480
I think it's a good time to
rep rep things up for the word

555
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:46.519
probably yeah. Uh once again,
guys, Mark Jackson if you haven't seen

556
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:51.360
it, checked out the Mark Jackson
card and check out those James Woods or

557
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:55.199
James Wood and uh be on the
lookout for any more of those if you

558
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:59.679
see him, let us know.
We'll keep you guys updated. But a

559
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:04.320
lot of really interesting stuff happening in
the hobby to kick off twenty twenty four.

560
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:08.320
Twenty twenty three was crazy, but
twenty twenty four is starting off pretty

561
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:15.159
wild itself, and we will have
a special beginning of the years show here

562
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.760
very soon. We'll do a live
episode, have some special guests and everything

563
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.199
on here very soon, so be
on the lookout for that. We'll let

564
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:24.960
you guys know. We'll be here
in a couple of weeks probably, But

565
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.079
that is gonna do it for episode
two hundred and ten of Let me get

566
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:35.119
that potograph before we go. I'd
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567
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573
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574
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:13.920
be back in the sad on my
friend. Yep. Absolutely, it's good

575
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.400
to be back and keep an eye
on because in the coming weeks we've got

576
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:21.880
some things that we're working on that
are gonna blow you away or shock you,

577
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:24.079
depending on what you wanted to hear. There's that one that you teased

578
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:28.000
earlier in the show. We'll get
some more information on that as it comes

579
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.199
out and get you the whole story
and then you guys don't know what we're

580
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:35.719
talking about. Yep. But until
then, yeah, keep ripping those packs,

581
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:40.079
pulling those hits. We'll talk to
you then. These guys