Come on, swear to god, every goddamn we I wasn't gonna say anything.
I've clicked on the button like four times. What was it doing?
Not doing nothing? Nothing, just nothing, just chill. Okay, do
you need to do you need to log out and log back in or something.
Nope, this thing just needs to stop being a piece of ship.
Do do do do do do do do do the challenge. There we go,
good enough? Exact? Did it dune dun dun dun dun du?
Why is this not work? Egg? Alright? That we're not going out
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join a patreouts. We'll hear about later. Tim. What happened in this
episode? Who will uh geez already forget? Oh no, Big t went
home, guys. Spoiler alert, Big Team went home. This episode is
episode eight of this season. How many episodes we think we're gonna get total?
I'm guessing twenty two, twenty two? Bro, I think yeah,
twenty. I think it was twenty four. Oh my god, that's insane.
So we're a third of the way through the season, if that's If
you're right, Zach, I feel like we looked it up early on and
it is like, I think it's like twenty two episodes and then two part
reunion two. All right, well, I can deal with that. I
guess this is episode eight. It's called Struggling to Hold it Together. We
get the everybody coming back to the house after the latest elimination, obviously,
and Iman Well comes back talking a really big game. I feel like this
is more than we've seen of him lately, and he's just talking shit,
namely about Kyland, big T and her Ossio. He says all of them
should be scared. Kind of a weird, eclectic group of people. Should
they should they be scared? No? Why did he pick these guys?
Why is he picking on Kyland big T in Hirasio, I don't know,
I don't know, don't care, didn't I'm kind of didn't they vote for
him in the last elimination to go in. I think they people. No,
that's right, No, because those three won the Daily Challenge and they
threw him in. Okay, that makes sense. But Big T is in
his alliance right in theory because they're international people. You would think so,
but it seems like a lot of these international people are turncoats that are siding
with Americans. Yeah, all right, And so some people are consoling Michelle
here. This is when she's like really having a hard time. She's missing
Callum for some reason because Calum seems like a piece of shit. But they
don't know that yet. But they're all outside, they're all consoling her.
But the conversation turns into game talk where Jay brings up that he thinks the
biggest threat in a final is Zara because she can run. He thinks the
final is really all about who can run the best. Does he have a
point here, guys? How competitive is Zara in a final? I don't
know how good she is a puzzles and stuff, but I mean she does
seem to have some good endurance are I mean, she does seem to be
a pretty good athlete. I mean she's run one final and she didn't win.
It. So, I mean she's definitely beatable. Yeah, and I
mean she's a good runner, but that's not all it takes. Like it's
obviously very valuable in a final, but strength would be good puzzles. I
don't know if we've I don't know enough about her to know if she's really
a threat, but whatever. This is where we also get a super creepy
confessional with asof ass Off. How do you say his name as off Off?
Delusion, that's how you say it, Very creepy. He says he's
an expert in romance, and he shows his ring proving that that makes him
an expert in romance. I don't know. I hate this man. I
hate this man. How do you guys feel about this guy? He doesn't
bother me, No, I I am annoyed by him, just because I
think like in his head, he legitimately thinks he's like playing this mastermind game.
And I'm like, I hope he's staying at home on the couch watching
this, realizing just like how delusional he was. Yeah, but I doubt
it. I'm sure he's at home being like, see I'm running everything.
Yeah, it's I think it's partially delusion. It's partially he more than anybody
else in this whole cast. To me, it seems like he's playing a
character. He's just sort of everything he does is sort of playing it up
for the cameras. Nothing he says seems sincere to me. It's just this
just like fake man. I don't know, it just seems very rehearsed.
I don't know, I just don't like the guy. Jane Michelle. This
is during the conversation they think it's time to go to the big threats,
big team Melissa's. You know, they're you know, neither here nor there,
because really at this point is this is the champs taking out people,
So you should be throwing in really strong people because there's really no risk that
you're going to go against them. So I guess I'm showing my cards.
I agree, this is the time you should throw in big threats. But
what do you guys think? Agreed, it's time to start thinning the herd
out, and they're not doing a very good job of it. Yeah,
they should save a big Tea and a Melissa for when they have to go
in personally, not for when they are at really no risk of it.
That something Dad, It seems like they like at least Olivia. I mean,
we saw Olvia last season as a really good athlete, and she seemed
like terrified of the prospect of going against Melissa elimination, and we saw them
talk to them about big t this you know, this episode about how like
you'd want to run against her in a final, which I agree, But
I also think she might be a girl that you don't want to go against
an elimination either, So maybe they are. Yeah. I mean, I
don't know how many of those other girls get hung in there with Kasey as
long as she did. Well, we'll get to that spoiler. I think
Casey was taking it easy on her, but we'll get into that, all
right. Well, that's about enough of that. We get a conversation with
Kyland and Colleen. They're talking soon. We are learning a little more about
Colleen. I guess she's a therapist or trying or studying to be a therapist
or something. She connects more with men than with women. I don't know.
Do we care about Colleen? No, I forgot Zach's got a crush
on her. I do Zach's got a type he likes the blondes. I
do you know, Olivia went and read this season. So Colleen has my
heart. Colleen's your girl. Well, I don't think you're a bad boy
enough for her, as she seems more like eman well type. She does.
I'll have to like go get some rub on tattoos or something and this
and a stash sweet terrible sash. Yes, and a Jordan type haircut.
Yeah, you could actually put you I mean, you have the hair that
you could. I was gonna say pull it off. I don't know if
you could pull it off, but you could actually style your hair that way.
I mean Wolfe where we couldn't do it. No, it's very sad.
We get Big Tea calling Kyle. How do we feel about the Kyle
cameo? Guys? I loved it, but that was very random, super
random. I didn't know they were friends either. It was kind of fun
to see him since we haven't seen him for a while. Yeah, Big
Tea says he was on her last season. That doesn't seem right at all.
I didn't do the I didn't like go back and figure it out,
Zach. Do you know off the top of your head was what was Big
Tea's last season? Spies Lies and Allies are double as one of the Spies
ones. Yeah, I think let me go look at how So Yeah,
Pig Forever so yeah, it was a Spylis and Allies and was Kyle on
that Yeah, Kyle got second place that season. Okay, yeah, so
that would have been the last. And I think big T technically retired after
that season, which means she took one season off and then she's back.
Yeah. I feel like Kyle's been gone a lot longer that. Yeah,
and I don't think he's retired. I think he just had the baby and
stuff and he's just been doing other stuff. But I mean this is also
the only second only the second season since then. Yes, but yeah,
Spy Lives and Allies aired from August through December of twenty twenty one, so
it's been like two years since we saw him. Yeah, I guess it
is yeah, crazy, Yeah, it was nice to see him. Oh
the lotokle kid was cute. I don't know, sure, it's fine whatever,
bring him back. Yeah. We get a conversation with Corey trying to
kind of smooth things over with Melissa. Tell me so sick. I wish
this asshole last time. I know it. He's intolerable. What is it
about him? Wolfy, can you put it into words? He's so fucking
fake? Yeah, like he says all this stuff. Well, I really
hope we could move forward. I really hope this, And then like cut
to a confessional where he's just like, yeah, I'm gonna turn on everybody.
Everybody. He seems smug to me, and I hate smug people.
Yes, that is a good way to put it. Yeah, he seems
incredibly smug. I'm the same way. Every time he's on the screen.
It's just like, get the fuck out of here. I just don't want
anything to do with that guy. So if we had him and asof and
an elimination, who you rooting for Tim oh Man? I think so,
but barely. That's why I asked him. I knew wolf he would be
asof. Yeah, I think it is ASoft, but it's like by by
a Hair. I hate them both. I think Aesop's a little smug too.
Frankly, Yeah, nobody likes Cory's hair. Okay, Yeah, there's
ridiculous. That's twice. Everybody hates it. It's so stupid. But they're
talking and Corey says something like, I hope I can we can rebuild this
trust and like work together again or whatever. And Melissa is just like,
well, you know, I'm not gonna hold it against you, but no,
like, of course, I'm not gonna trust you or you stupid.
That's fair, that's fair. Yeah, the bar Cory is so stupid,
all right? And with that word to the challenge, I'm gonna smash his
head, need it? There we go. This one's called tower of Power.
And hey, did you guys know Jay did a similar elimination against CT
and won it. Did you guys know that? Yes? Yes, Okay,
Well if you didn't, we're gonna we're gonna go over in about six
times. Jay won't shut up about it, keeps talking about it, and
because of that one experience, thinks he is a super pro at this.
And obviously you tie chains instead of ropes because chains are like a necklace,
and necklaces are hard to untie, and blah blah blah blah blah. Sure,
Jasmus go to his head, right, Jason a little bit of a
power trip with this shit. Yeah, I was gonna say I did see
to bring up you know, him mentioning CT several times. We do know
CT is coming in later this season. I've seen some people speculating, is
this them laying the breadcrumbs that we're gaining J vers CT Part two. I
think that's a really good guess. I had the same thought because he mentioned
it obviously like several times during this challenge, and then it came back again
at the end of the episode. So yes, it sure seems like they're
leading that direction. Did we say that Jay did something racist this season goose
force once to know? Yeah, I read he dropped the N bomb and
made some enemies this season. Yeah, I remember, like preseason that's discussed
that, like either then or like on the ext episode. I don't remember
the details of it now I don't either, and maybe I'm talking out of
my ass, but I swear I read something like that because I I just
thought to myself, like, really j would do like Jay doesn't seem the
type. But anyway, if you did kick him off, send him home.
I agree. You gotta pull like a d right, you gotta do
that and edit and like you gotta treat them both the same if they're both
sort of similar situations. Yep, don't don't pull a Camilla and you word
him with like half a million dollars. Yeah. Well, anyway back to
Tower of Power, guys, Zach, you're gonna break down this challenge for
us, absolutely. I remember what it is. You have to stack up
a bunch of stack up a bunch of ship yeah, the other person's tower.
Yeah, whitch and you got to break in. Yeah, and whoever
gets to the top and lowers the flag first wins. Well, we were
just talking about the cteth and then my mind completed, like what the challenge
even was? Yeah, well, well if he nailed it, he did.
I was shocked that they like, I mean, I guess I'm not
shocked, but like I guess I expected both to have an equal like pile
of like stuff they could use. So surprised me. Why I saw that
they were fighting over things, which I don't know if I like that more
or less, that like one team got an advantage with the chains over the
rope. Yeah, I don't know. I guess it's just they should have
played into that more if that's going to be the case, because that didn't
seem to really do a whole lot at all. Yeah. I like these
I like the challenge that it is sort of it's it's not so fast in
a way that it's like, first you build your obstacles and then you have
to tear down the other person's obstacles that they built. So I kind of
like that. I don't know, I kind of like this challenge. I
thought it was pretty cool, but yeah, also kind of anti climactic.
I didn't take a lot of notes. What's that change? It was the
chains that did it all? It sure seems that way. I mean,
Jay took all the credit for all the chains. Kylin seems to have fallen
on this sword about the rope that he kind of screwed up the rope implementation.
I don't even know, man like to tie him not. That seems
like it didn't slow him down much at all. I was gonna say it
could just be creative editing, but it seems like despite all that, like
it was a pretty close race. So do we think that Jay just over
emphasized the importance of the chains or is Kyland just that good at untangling chains?
I think maybe both. I do think Jay this went to his head.
I think it's he mentioned beating CT like four times or something crazy as
we're watching this elimination, and he just wanted to he wanted to kind of
take credit for something like this, I think, and I think that I
think Kylin did take responsibility. I think he genuinely felt bad. He felt
like he screwed it up, just happen to be a woman's day, so
he kind of go off got off easy for it. Yeah, but yeah,
it seemed like it was a close, close ish race. The one
team was at least at the final door when the other team was running up
the tower, So it wasn't It wasn't like a complete blowout. But yeah,
Orange team one other than that guy that didn't take any money many notes
through this competition, I don't know, is there anything else we want to
talk about. Kylon got him in the face with a chain, which I
thought we might have another Olivia type situation. That seems like he is okay.
Yeah, but it's another It wasn't that like like four inches away from
his eyeball like that could have been that could have knocked at his eye.
Yeah. When they first when they first cut away and like him on his
face, I thought we're gonna come back to like blood drip and a big
dash and that. So I was like, Oh, he's okay, Like
he'll live there was, but there was blood. I mean quite a bit
of blood. There was. There was a messier one of the messier injuries
we've seen on the show. Yeah, but when he gets back home,
they he just has like a piece of tape with someone. Wasn't that big
of a deal. Head injuries do bleed a lot. I it looked messy,
but yeah, it was probably just a little cut. Well Orange Team
wins. Orange Team consists of Jame James, j Mariah Corey, e Manuel
Raven, Nurice Zara, and Berna. Uh So, between all of them,
they have to select one woman. And I did watch this episode twice
once to just watch it and wants to take notes, And the second time
around, I really tried to pay attention to who brought up Welliss's name first,
because that's it seems to be the focus for the rest of the whole
fucking episode. Yeah, uh it was I Manuel. Guys, there was
ever any confusion e Manuel. But I didn't think it was interesting that every
time they brought it up when they were sort of debating on who to throw
in, they brought them up as a pair. They always said Big T
and Melissa. Uh from what they showed us they didn't settle on either name.
Yeah, well I think they Jesus Christ him. I know, I'm
gonna have to meet myself for a second run up and yell at him.
Well, it seems like they picked Melissa and people were just like, hey,
what, we should pick Big Tea And they're like, oh, we're
going to vote her in for the house anyway, so who cares. So
it seems like they've really wanted to get Melissa in there just in case something
went wrong, which I agree would probably be the better choice. Yeah.
I love I love Big Tea, but she's not a big thread and a
bunch of stuff. So yeah, so I don't know. Yeah, I
thought I thought that was the way they did Melissa, because it seems like
the dissenters, you know, wanted Big Tea and like if like if they
were just gonna throw the other one in at the vote, like why why
not? Just like sure, we'll give you Big Tea first, like if
that'll make you happy, and then you're gonna turn around like support Melissa in
the house boat then yeah, like why not? Yeah, yeah, fully
agree. It seemed like the majority wants Big Team Melissa. So at some
point, it's like who cares? How we divide this up, like one's
gonna be the house, one's gonna be the other one who cares? But
anyway, they decided to go with Melissa for this vote. And yeah,
Jay seems to be the biggest sort of opposing force. He's trying to sell
him on somebody bigger. Nobody has given him the time of night. He
doesn't know time of day. Nobody's listening. And that's about it for the
challenge. We're back in the house. Yes, we'll be full of energy
tonight. I appreciate that. I did like this exchange. This is when
Melissa approached Mariah to see who voted for her. I loved Mariah in this
scene. What did you guys think? Do you remember it? Yeah?
She says she's not really gonna say anybody, She's not gonna say anything.
Yeah, which I say is fair enough. I'm just not gonna deal with
it. Yeah, it's very fair that there's no lies, there's no covering
up. Mariah's just like, I'm sorry, I'm just not gonna tell you
that, and they ask her again and he's like, I'm sorry, I'm
just not I'm sorry. I'm just not gonna say it. I thought it
was a kind of a good way to deal with this. And I don't
know if we've ever seen anything like this on the Challenge. The only way
to win the game, tim is not to play. I guess I was
really like, I just really liked it. I don't know what I was
expecting of Mariah, but this just seemed very like no nonsense, very just
cut and dry. Just I know what you want, You're not getting it
from me. That's just that's just a no Zach, What do you think
about this? I think, yeah, she didn't want to throw people on
there the bus, but like, I don't even know if it's a case
of you're not going to get it from me, and I guess in terms
of like smelling the beans, But Mariah did tweet out during that so that
like she was actively like trying to flip the boat to Colleen and just didn't
want to tell Big Tea or Melissa that because then they would run around the
house spreading it and she'd get in trouble. Yeah, which is a very
forward thing thing. I wonder if Bananas gave her this advice, probably just
play your cards close to your chest. Don't say anything, you don't have
to. I kind of liked it in her confessionals though Melissa is talking about
well, Melissa and Mariah are both talking about Colleen because mel wonders, like,
why isn't anybody voting for Colleen? Colleen must sort of be working with
them under the radar, and Mariah thinks, well, Colleen must be working
with all these other people and not telling me about it. Are both of
these concerned, like, I mean, they can't both be right, But
is either more right than the other or is this all just paranoia? I
seriously forgot Colleen was on this show, so paranoia is would be your I
don't know who she's working with because we haven't barely seen Jack Shitiver and seven
and a half episode. I mean some we saw Michelle talk about later.
I think it just simply comes down to the fact that Colleen is an international
like Big Tea in Melissa. But at the end of the day, she's
been voting with the Americans, So why take out someone that's voting with you
over two people that are actively working against you. Yeah, she's a number
for the Americans. And also she is probably one of the easier people to
just sort of keep around. She sort of is unproven. I don't know.
She seems like on the smaller end of the women. Yes, and
you know chaosk who's next? Now? The big tea is that? And
I would not be shocked if we've just started seeing Melissa and Colleen be the
next. Like I think she's the next one up in line. I think
so too. And it's weird that they're going after the sort of smaller,
not less, less strong women. It seems like this is the time you
throw in Olivia, you know, let a champ deal with them. But
these people are dumb, Yeah they are. Yes, it's frustrating to watch.
All right, we're in a barnight, guys. Yeah, keep it
going, keep it going. No? No, uh? Did you guys
notice this like super weird way that it started this episode with, Like I
think Corey was up on one of the benches yelling, and then it like
zoomed over and like e Manuel was yelling back. It was like, real
fucking weird. Do you guys notice this? I don't know, it's weird.
I noticed it, but I don't know if it was weird or not.
It seemed so weird to me. It seems super uncomfortable. It seemed
like producers would just sort of like get hyped guys jump up and dance or
something, and they just started doing this weird shit. Seemed very weird.
I did not like that. Uh, all right, we get I Manuel
approaching Kyland, and from their conversation at the bar, it seems like Emanuel
wants to befriend Kyland, wants to work with him, wants to plan together,
and then we cut to a confessional and e Manuel it is just sort
of like, fuck, Kyland. I'm gonna pretend to be his friend,
but I'm gonna stab him in the back and I'm gonna come with my army.
What the fuck is this? What an army? I thought? Otherwise?
Sure, why not? I mean, this is all weird. You
don't have to pretend to be his friend. You can just go after him.
I don't know what is he Manuell doing here, Zach, what is
he Manuel doing? I think you know that like Kyland already made a shot
at him last week, and so it could be easy. Once you throw
someone in there, say their name to be like hey, like I've already
done it once, rather than put someone new off, let me stick doing
that. So Manuel is like, well, he could just easily keep saying
my name. Let me befriend him. So that way, if he gets
power again, he'll be like afraid to say my name because I'm his alliance.
Hm. I think that's given him more credit than he deserves. But
I'll give it to you, Zack. That's the only that's the only thing
that makes sense. I couldn't even make sense of it, and that makes
little sense to me. Yeah, we get Raven and Colleen talking, and
so after this conversation, Colleen knows Mariah is sort of focused on her,
which is sort of starting another controversy thing. So, yeah, Colleen is
involved in some drama. But the real drama here is Melissa. She is
on a quest. She wants to find out who started her name in this
you know, Winner's circle to throw her in. So she just confronts everybody
one on one, just going through everybody, trying to figure this out.
Why does this matter so much? That was gonna be my question to you,
Why does it matter? We don't understand, Zach, why does it
matter? Apparently there's a few people that you know, went along with the
Melissa vote that she thought would have her back, and so I think just
trying to see like who was actually kind of strong armed into this and overridden
by the majority, and who was lying to my face and like going along
trying to get rid of me from the beginning. But I think what you're
asking Wolfe is like does it matter? Like like I know that's what happened,
but does it matter? No, it's going in no matter what,
Yeah, deal with it, And she's probably not going to change their minds
if if they've kind of voted against her once, they're going to do it
again. Yes, Yeah, And I know like the answer will be,
well, she's trying to sort of weed out who's actually working with her and
who's not. But again, who cares? Yeah, It's it's obvious that
you are being targeted every week now, So yeah, I think her.
I think her and Big TV. You know, we're upset with Corey because
they felt like he embarrassed him on TV. So we see this week like
she's she has a lot of trust in James and so many part of it's
like, well is James doing this to me? Because I don't want to
look stupid again where I'm here on TV being like I love him, he's
my best friend and he's out there trying to screw me over from the beginning.
Yeah, yeah, maybe so it's they just it all. It does
seem like they're talking out of both sides of their mouth too, because then
their confessionals Big Ta and Melissa will both say consistently like it's us against the
world. We have the smallest alliance. It's just us too. Everybody's against
us. And so to me it seems obvious like everyone's against you, Like
that's why they threw you in, because that's what you've been saying the whole
season of what you are. I don't know, it's kind of weird.
We have that most awkward scene in the bar where Melissa is talking to Berna,
who calls over Mariah in an attempt to sort of diffuse the situation.
Are I just wearing like a tube top? Situation going on? Yeah,
looks about three sizes too small, which I'm not complaining. I liked it.
It was nice. Uh, but yeah, and Berna I think really
screwed up this interaction. Maybe a language barrier thing. Maybe Burna's just a
little naive, but I don't know. Did you guys, did you guys,
gather anything from this conversation. It was weird. I don't. I
don't know. Berna's just awkward. Yeah, like why did she have to
call Mariah over? Like she just had to, like so that someone can
sort of back her up or version of events or whatever. I guess,
But yeah, it's just like Melissa could have been like I talked to Mariah
already. It's like, I don't This whole situation was weird. It really
was. Melissa was on this quest for something that doesn't ultimately matter. Everybody
was lying to her, which of course they were, so then she in
turn lied to everybody else to get them to tell the truth, and that's
I don't know. It just got really weird. Ultimately ended in a confrontation
between Melissa and Raven where Melissa throws a fit, throws a drink. I
don't know that the security has to get involved. Yeah, all the stuff,
I don't know. That was barnight. Anything else added to barnight,
guys. Now we're plowing through this episode. Guys, No, Carlin,
no bullshit. I think we might have found U. Do we find the
issue in the podcast going too long? Yes? It is, Carlin.
What is it with women on this podcast always talking too much, Wolfy,
your wife was a worse ex wife ex wife wife at the time. That
part's important, all right. So before the nominations, we also get one
lighthearted and hilarious exchange between Big T and Ed where Big T is literally trying
to buy Ed's vote with ten euro. I don't know when she came out
on social media as actually she went and took that money from Harassio, like
to stop without telling him, so she has private Rossio's money. Uh,
this is one that, like, you know, these ninety minute episodes include
some fluff. This is a part of the fluff that's like, I get
rid of this. We don't need this ship sure, since it was in
it's fun. I enjoyed it. I'm glad they didn't get rid of this
sluff. This was I think there's a lot of stuff like we agree at
the bar and I think you get ri but I like to see these kind
of fun moments. Yeah, I don't know. I think what what I
didn't like is that it was sort of performance. You know, it was
like a performance, scripted stage gag. It wasn't like a genuine moment that
they had you know, I don't know. It just felt like like so
much of the season, it just feels like performance. It doesn't feel like
genuine for whatever reason, So any I could have done about this personally,
that's just me after that one A nomination, Oh we got something at work
that was cool. Nope, I just played it off my soundboard home nice.
Uh. Well, before they get started, Kylin gets on a little
soapbox talks about how you shouldn't just just vote for the majority. That's kind
of a bullshit pussy move. You should be brave, you should express your
reasoning and not just vote with the majority. What do you guys think is
kind of have a point here? Uh no, because he's gonna do the
exact opposite. About five Zach does kind of have a point. He has
a point. I don't know if it's a good one, but he has
a point. It's a bad one. It's bad. It's the worst one.
It's such a bad point that stupid asoff had me agreeing with him because
aesof it was the second was the next one to talk and he's like,
dude, sometimes that is the reason. I'm telling you the reason. The
reason is that the majority is going I can't change it. I don't have
a problem with you, but I'm choosing you because that's who everybody's choosing,
and that is a perfectly valid reason. You don't have to choose somebody different
just because the majority is picking them. Yeah. Nothing, nobody. I
don't know if you guys though, So Hyland actually said that on Twitter,
even if the majority was not going for Big T, he was still going
to go for Big T this week. Then why is he saying this right
like the majority is already going for Big T. Why is he making like
this stand like sometimes you got to stand on your own. Yeah, it's
weird because yeah, he voted for Big T. Yeah, like, what
are you doing? Is he not brave? Maybe? I don't know he
said is he said? His explanation if we believe it, is that like
Big T Melissa kept getting targeted as a pair, and he's like, if
I could get rid of big T, then maybe like Melissa fades into the
background, some people are less worried about her. Yeah, well, if
if that was what, if he wanted Big T, and he shouldn't have
said anything because all he's really doing is encouraging people to not vote Big TA.
By saying, don't vote with the majority. I don't get it.
This is weird, yeah, real stupid, big t She knows she's on
the shopping block, so she pitches reasons why they should keep her, and
really all she can come up with is well, I won the last one,
so you guys have ten grand more than you had last time, and
that's because of me, so maybe you should save me. Good pitch,
guys, bad pitch? What do you think? I mean, it might
be her only pitch. Is she the only one who won? Yeah,
yes, she's the only one to be the champ so far. Yeah,
so I'm better than all you fuckers. Yeah, it's I mean, I
don't think it's a good pitch. I don't think these guys care frankly about
the ten grand, So I don't think it's a great pitch. But I
think you're right, Wolfe. It's all she had, you know. Her
other pitch would be just sort of like, I don't want to I've already
been it should be somebody else's turn, which is also kind of a weak
move. Better start caring, because Jesus Christ, they're losing some Yeah,
I know, this prize pot is like pathetic. Well, they vote guys
as Big Team. Not a surprise. Well yep. So after the nominations,
Big Ta and Melissa they meet up in their bedroom and they talk and
they kind of know like it's probably gonna be one of them going home.
They kind of say they're goodbyes. They kind of bond over this, like
probably one of them is probably going to go home. They looked at Melissa's
daughter picture of the daughter. Yeah, Tim, you like this kind of
bullshit? I did kind of like this bullshit, Yeah I did. It's
usually just the dads, but it turns out like a little soft spot for
the moms too. She was kind of wigging out about those pictures of that
little girl. I could deal with that, all right. Well with that,
we're onto the elimination, all right, Well, not much to say
here. It's Big Ta and mel They're down in the sand outwalks. Casey
kind of landed with a thud, didn't It was that? Just me?
Well? Yeah, people were cheering, people were excited to see her.
Yeah, were you guys though? Were you? Yes? Really? I
like I like Casey, and especially in this type of atmosphere where she's not
coming on to like free like entertaining television. She's just there to like smash
people. I think that's where her strength is. Agreed, Yeah, yeah,
and it was nice to see her. I don't know. I just
don't get pumped for Casey. She's just a sort of boring to me.
I like her, but she's not like it's not like Cars. Yeah,
better than cast for sure, but no Car Maria. I'm gonna be pumped
in Car comes out because I missed her. I really like her. I
root for Kara. Casey is just like, Casey exists and she's fine.
But that's kind of how I feel about Casey. Uh well, she pulls
the little hammer thing, she pulls big t yep yep, gives a very
frustrated n I'm it she's really upset. Guys, she was so mad.
Yeah, she was the one person. This is just more performance man worst
actress. This Casey is terrible actress. Which made me feel bad for Melissa
because you know, both before that, both of them were like, oh,
we love Katie, like she's our friend. And then could you imagine
Melissa's hand, They being like, oh, I didn't want to go against
Pig. I wanted to go against anyone else. Yeah, that's true.
Well, the elimination this time around cast is called poll in the storm,
which is so stupid. Why did they do this? Why did they do
this because it was raining? So stupid? That is the stupidest ship.
Just call it pull wrestle. This is like one of these classic games that
we like that we enjoy. Why are you changing just because it happens to
be raining? This dumb They probably were calling it pull rustle and then like
some producer off on the side made a joke about it, and TJ's like,
Oh, that's funny. I'm gonna go with that. Yeah. I
just don't get it, like it's not it's on to play on words or
anything. I just don't why would you change it? I don't like it.
Soon as they announced pole Wrestle, I was like, oh, that's
been fun, big tea. I do think this helps support our suspicion that
these champs are getting eliminations suited to their strength in the game. I think
so. But that's okay, that's okay, right. We were fine with
that. Oh I wish that they would advertise it more and be like,
no, only do you have to be a CHAMPI you gotta be a champion
like in their game, like this is their element, what they're known for.
Yeah, I would be fine with whatever they have to do to make
it harder on them, Like that's you know, I don't I'm not watching
the challenge for a fair fight, not interested in that. I want to
see people get the shit kicked out of them. Yeah, so it's Casey
versus Big Ta in a pole wrestle. Wolfee, I think you spoke for
every single person watching when it's like, all right, buy a big tea,
Like why why are we even bothering to watch this or do this?
And I think we can all agree that Casey took it easy on her,
right, Casey let her have the second round. I don't know she nesa
went easy, but like I do think Kimer, who was someone up there,
said, you know, like Casey's just kind of like letting big T
wear herself out. So I think in that sense she's going easy. But
like, I don't think she meant to give big T the win in the
second round. You don't think so? No, I think she's legit just
trying to wait, let Big T like tire herself out and then just do
like one last yank and like win it two. Oh we will never know,
but I think that Casey gave her that second win. Frankly, well
for you, do you have an opinion? No chatroom? What do you
say? We're gonna the chat room? Chien in. Yeah, so it's
best two out of three. So they did actually go the full three rounds.
Casey won the first round, in the third and and so big T
goes home. Case has deaf yep, Jamie says, I thought she gave
her that win. Yeah, I think so too. The second round it
did not look like Casey was trying all that hard. It looked like she
was just sort of holding on to let Big T. You have to struggle
to win. But I mean, at the end of the day, Casey,
Casey was gonna win this no matter what she I mean, it was
nice for her to give a win to big T. But I think she
did. That's it, No, no big tea. Let's slip that she's
maybe not as retired as she originally said she was. Yeah, she loves
this game. She's definitely not retired anymore. Yeah. That they kind have
annoyed me because the last time we saw her, she made a big deal
but I'm retiring. And then this time she's like, oh, I'm not
gonna retire. I love this game too much. It's like, well,
you didn't love it that much two seasons ago. I'm convinced that some of
these people retire just for like the the little bit of social media clout they
get in the weeks that follow, where you know, everybody says like,
oh no, please don't. I want to see you back, and you
know whatever. We've seen West retire a couple of times. Big T retired
for precisely one season. Come on, Big T, go fuck yourself with
that ship. Uh Chaos? Did car retire? No? Carra was forced
into a little time out by production, and that timeout seems to be like
it's it's ending. So it seemed like it was much in Heaton. We
can all agree. Yeah, I think it was probably good for her and
good for us. She mentally had something going on. She needed to not
be doing this for a little bit. Yeah. His name is Pollie.
Who's that too? And I think he's still going on. Oh well,
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not right, I'm asking you. Let me think I'm gonna give it.
I give it a little bit. I'd give it a I'd give it a
six, all right, very thoughtful answer, zach Y. Yeah, I'm
just trying. I was like, we got we got like drinks being thrown
and like security new poll people parts. I figured out at least you get
it like up to a six. Yeah, No, I like that.
My mine's just more of a gut check. I don't. I don't put
much thought into anything in life. I just react with my gut. I
like watching Casey throw people around, so you know it wasn't terrible. I
do like a pole wrestle. I do like a poor bring bring back the
classic game. That was kidding. Yeah, that's it. Even though we
don't have any reviews, we do have a comment on Spotify. Oh and
Amanda not previous host? Man, are you sure? Well, unless she
got married right away and has a different last name, he's in a fake
name, or you wouldn't read it. That's also true, says I think
Banana's never wants to be played for a fool. Mariah is someone he actually
caught feelings for, and this is embarrassing for him. I didn't want to
give up anyone the satisfaction of showing up. Do we think that's true?
I don't. I don't think this pertains the rumor that Bananas was gonna be
one of the mercenaries, but he would pulled out at the last second,
right, Yes, Do we even believe that rumor that was Banana's gonna be
a mercenary on this season? Woh uh? I think I could see it.
I don't think that Bananas would would not do it because of Mariah.
I think Banana's is he won the attention. He wants to make a splash,
He wants to be there. I think his appearance there would mean more
to him than Mariah quote cheating on him. Mm hmm. I mean,
I guess you got some arrement though, Like if he wanted the attention,
like he knows that people are out there that like spoil the show, and
then they would get out that he was supposed to be on the show and
that like Mariah's the reason he's not, and would that possibly bring him more
like discussion than just being there. Yeah, I don't know. One of
these things. Man, if I ever run into him an airport, I'll
talk to while you're at it, I will. Uh, But yeah,
I don't know. I don't know. I don't think we'll ever know.
I think if Bonanza's was going to be a mercenary, he was always going
to be a mercenary, frankly, and and would be still. I don't
think he would shy away from the drama. Well, I'm guessing they had
the mercenaries all all there, like hotel together something, so we'll have to
ask one of the mercenaries it was there, like, was Banana with you
guys and then pulled out? You know? Yeah, Case says that Brad
was their random choice, so Brad replaced him. I don't think Brad's a
random choice. I did think, like, because that's why I think like,
if Banana's backed out, who would have been like the backup replacement?
And I did think like, yeah, Brad's the one that just seems like
they're like, oh, we need someone last minute, who can we get
Yeah? You know, uh, some of my friends we have a joke
that that's like the challenge mania backup Brads, just that person where they're like,
who's just so desperate that if we ask him he'll always say yeah,
Oh, don't talk about my Brad saying he's desperate. Come on, I
mean he's at like eighty percent of all Challenge manias now. He just knows
wherever they go, it's just always there. He is good. Brad's awesome.
He should be there, Chris, and the chairman says, so,
I watch an Amazon by purchasing the season, and they have extra cup which
equates to the elimination loser being asked a few more questions that don't air on
the show, And for this week's show, they fucked up and aired the
interview in the Oh, no I do It's gonna be big t losing and
Casey was the champ the worst, that's the worst. Have you guys been
spoiled this season? Zachy? Nothing? All right? I have an either.
I I so, I'm so uninterested in this season. I'm so frustrated
by it. I I thought about diving down the spoiled rabbit hole and just
spoiling myself and going sick this season, but I haven't done it. Sick,
Yeah, just go sick, just go nuts. Do I want to
spoiler? Uh? No? I don't think I do. I think I'm
gonna I think I'm just gonna remain unspoiled. Thank you, though for the
offer. We need the authentic reaction from Tim Win Ace Wins this season.
Oh god, I'll never watch this show again because this not Corey that's all
about. Yeah, I guess yeah, between those two, yeah, I
do think I hate Corey more. Yes, exactly what we got for social
media? Well, first off, we had Leroy announcing that he has just
hit his seven months sober song. I had no idea that was happening.
Okay, was he Did he have a problem or did he just is this
like a health thing or what's going on? I think I think I don't
know if he I don't think we ever saw that he had a major problem,
like but I'm guessing he had some stuff going on where he wasn't happy
with how much he was drinking and acting the way. But he did release
a video on his Instagram. Yeah, people go watch it talking about it.
Well that's good because it's like, you know, you never know who's
addicted to whatever. But we've never seen behavior from Leroy that would indicate that,
Like we've seen him drink, but he doesn't like, he doesn't act
out. He's not like a lunatic when he's drunk like a lot of these
other lunatics. It's just like, I don't know, it doesn't it doesn't
mean anything, but it's that surprise. I just never would have pictured Leroy
as having a problem. Yep. Also, we talked about it, I
think on the pre show. But for anyone that missed that, uh,
this coming Monday, Uh, there is a mini season of Big Brother going
on called Big Brother Reindeer Games and everyone's favorite Meet Paul from the challenge will
be on it. The goog He is no one's favorite. He's as long
as he's not asked to do multiplication, he might do well. And then
the other big thing I saw this interested on social media is a big Tea
tweeted out a thank you to Casey because apparently, after gaining eliminated, Casey
gave half of her ten thousand dollars the big tea I did. I didn't
see the half, but I saw that Casey gave. Do we lose him?
We lost you for a second. Yep, you're back. Oh fuck,
that was weird. I never was gone from my perspective, yep,
and then it all sounds like you're on your computer, Mic and all right,
let me see if I can fix it. You can't. It's fine,
We're almost done, so yeah, and those are the big ones I
saw. And then I think we must have talked about it, you know,
on the pre show, but uh, probably one of the questioning Uh
Marie back to have Challenge Mania in New York because she hates this new cast
in season, but so hopefully none of our listeners had tickets to New York
hoping this year. I don't think she's the big draw. I don't.
I can't imagine people being like, oh, if Marie is not gonna be
there, I won't bother Yeah, yeah yeah. If you can still go
meet Lane, then that's probably more exciting. Anyway, it's dreamy. Although
I do love Marie. When I met Marie she was great, so good
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