1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:06,599 Come on, swear to god, every goddamn we I wasn't gonna say anything. 2 00:00:08,839 --> 00:00:11,279 I've clicked on the button like four times. What was it doing? 3 00:00:11,439 --> 00:00:17,760 Not doing nothing? Nothing, just nothing, just chill. Okay, do 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,480 you need to do you need to log out and log back in or something. 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,640 Nope, this thing just needs to stop being a piece of ship. 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,839 Do do do do do do do do do the challenge. There we go, 7 00:00:29,839 --> 00:00:33,399 good enough? Exact? Did it dune dun dun dun dun du? 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:41,439 Why is this not work? Egg? Alright? That we're not going out 9 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:48,119 moving? We're no sounders. Everybody walking to the challenge. Brian sitting across 10 00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:51,560 the internet in his home in Germantown Hills, Big Uncle, Sweet Tea, 11 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:56,759 and sitting at work Zachie bananas. God, it feels weird with no music 12 00:00:56,799 --> 00:01:02,880 though sonders are not working. These things garbage. Let's keep trying. Everybody 13 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,640 head over to challengepot dot com. Join the Facebook group. You can also 14 00:01:04,719 --> 00:01:07,920 join a patreouts. We'll hear about later. Tim. What happened in this 15 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,040 episode? Who will uh geez already forget? Oh no, Big t went 16 00:01:11,079 --> 00:01:15,400 home, guys. Spoiler alert, Big Team went home. This episode is 17 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,680 episode eight of this season. How many episodes we think we're gonna get total? 18 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:22,079 I'm guessing twenty two, twenty two? Bro, I think yeah, 19 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,439 twenty. I think it was twenty four. Oh my god, that's insane. 20 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:29,040 So we're a third of the way through the season, if that's If 21 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,079 you're right, Zach, I feel like we looked it up early on and 22 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:36,079 it is like, I think it's like twenty two episodes and then two part 23 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,239 reunion two. All right, well, I can deal with that. I 24 00:01:38,239 --> 00:01:42,480 guess this is episode eight. It's called Struggling to Hold it Together. We 25 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:48,120 get the everybody coming back to the house after the latest elimination, obviously, 26 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,760 and Iman Well comes back talking a really big game. I feel like this 27 00:01:53,799 --> 00:01:56,599 is more than we've seen of him lately, and he's just talking shit, 28 00:01:56,959 --> 00:02:00,200 namely about Kyland, big T and her Ossio. He says all of them 29 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:06,640 should be scared. Kind of a weird, eclectic group of people. Should 30 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,199 they should they be scared? No? Why did he pick these guys? 31 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,759 Why is he picking on Kyland big T in Hirasio, I don't know, 32 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,800 I don't know, don't care, didn't I'm kind of didn't they vote for 33 00:02:17,879 --> 00:02:24,960 him in the last elimination to go in. I think they people. No, 34 00:02:25,039 --> 00:02:29,599 that's right, No, because those three won the Daily Challenge and they 35 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:35,120 threw him in. Okay, that makes sense. But Big T is in 36 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,159 his alliance right in theory because they're international people. You would think so, 37 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,240 but it seems like a lot of these international people are turncoats that are siding 38 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:51,400 with Americans. Yeah, all right, And so some people are consoling Michelle 39 00:02:51,479 --> 00:02:53,960 here. This is when she's like really having a hard time. She's missing 40 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:58,000 Callum for some reason because Calum seems like a piece of shit. But they 41 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,599 don't know that yet. But they're all outside, they're all consoling her. 42 00:03:01,719 --> 00:03:07,319 But the conversation turns into game talk where Jay brings up that he thinks the 43 00:03:07,319 --> 00:03:10,159 biggest threat in a final is Zara because she can run. He thinks the 44 00:03:10,199 --> 00:03:14,919 final is really all about who can run the best. Does he have a 45 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:20,719 point here, guys? How competitive is Zara in a final? I don't 46 00:03:20,719 --> 00:03:23,520 know how good she is a puzzles and stuff, but I mean she does 47 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,520 seem to have some good endurance are I mean, she does seem to be 48 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,599 a pretty good athlete. I mean she's run one final and she didn't win. 49 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:36,120 It. So, I mean she's definitely beatable. Yeah, and I 50 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,680 mean she's a good runner, but that's not all it takes. Like it's 51 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:44,000 obviously very valuable in a final, but strength would be good puzzles. I 52 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,520 don't know if we've I don't know enough about her to know if she's really 53 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:52,280 a threat, but whatever. This is where we also get a super creepy 54 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:59,800 confessional with asof ass Off. How do you say his name as off Off? 55 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,000 Delusion, that's how you say it, Very creepy. He says he's 56 00:04:03,039 --> 00:04:08,039 an expert in romance, and he shows his ring proving that that makes him 57 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:11,280 an expert in romance. I don't know. I hate this man. I 58 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,080 hate this man. How do you guys feel about this guy? He doesn't 59 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,600 bother me, No, I I am annoyed by him, just because I 60 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:25,519 think like in his head, he legitimately thinks he's like playing this mastermind game. 61 00:04:25,759 --> 00:04:28,319 And I'm like, I hope he's staying at home on the couch watching 62 00:04:28,399 --> 00:04:31,680 this, realizing just like how delusional he was. Yeah, but I doubt 63 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,000 it. I'm sure he's at home being like, see I'm running everything. 64 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:41,000 Yeah, it's I think it's partially delusion. It's partially he more than anybody 65 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,319 else in this whole cast. To me, it seems like he's playing a 66 00:04:43,399 --> 00:04:46,000 character. He's just sort of everything he does is sort of playing it up 67 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,519 for the cameras. Nothing he says seems sincere to me. It's just this 68 00:04:50,959 --> 00:04:56,079 just like fake man. I don't know, it just seems very rehearsed. 69 00:04:56,079 --> 00:05:00,639 I don't know, I just don't like the guy. Jane Michelle. This 70 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,360 is during the conversation they think it's time to go to the big threats, 71 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,639 big team Melissa's. You know, they're you know, neither here nor there, 72 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:10,959 because really at this point is this is the champs taking out people, 73 00:05:11,399 --> 00:05:14,199 So you should be throwing in really strong people because there's really no risk that 74 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,040 you're going to go against them. So I guess I'm showing my cards. 75 00:05:18,079 --> 00:05:20,319 I agree, this is the time you should throw in big threats. But 76 00:05:20,319 --> 00:05:26,639 what do you guys think? Agreed, it's time to start thinning the herd 77 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,399 out, and they're not doing a very good job of it. Yeah, 78 00:05:29,399 --> 00:05:31,879 they should save a big Tea and a Melissa for when they have to go 79 00:05:31,959 --> 00:05:39,279 in personally, not for when they are at really no risk of it. 80 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,519 That something Dad, It seems like they like at least Olivia. I mean, 81 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,240 we saw Olvia last season as a really good athlete, and she seemed 82 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,879 like terrified of the prospect of going against Melissa elimination, and we saw them 83 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:54,879 talk to them about big t this you know, this episode about how like 84 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,240 you'd want to run against her in a final, which I agree, But 85 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,800 I also think she might be a girl that you don't want to go against 86 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,560 an elimination either, So maybe they are. Yeah. I mean, I 87 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,560 don't know how many of those other girls get hung in there with Kasey as 88 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,920 long as she did. Well, we'll get to that spoiler. I think 89 00:06:13,959 --> 00:06:18,040 Casey was taking it easy on her, but we'll get into that, all 90 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,639 right. Well, that's about enough of that. We get a conversation with 91 00:06:20,759 --> 00:06:26,879 Kyland and Colleen. They're talking soon. We are learning a little more about 92 00:06:26,879 --> 00:06:30,480 Colleen. I guess she's a therapist or trying or studying to be a therapist 93 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,560 or something. She connects more with men than with women. I don't know. 94 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:42,079 Do we care about Colleen? No, I forgot Zach's got a crush 95 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:46,000 on her. I do Zach's got a type he likes the blondes. I 96 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:48,959 do you know, Olivia went and read this season. So Colleen has my 97 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,959 heart. Colleen's your girl. Well, I don't think you're a bad boy 98 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:58,240 enough for her, as she seems more like eman well type. She does. 99 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,639 I'll have to like go get some rub on tattoos or something and this 100 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:10,439 and a stash sweet terrible sash. Yes, and a Jordan type haircut. 101 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,120 Yeah, you could actually put you I mean, you have the hair that 102 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,800 you could. I was gonna say pull it off. I don't know if 103 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,079 you could pull it off, but you could actually style your hair that way. 104 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,680 I mean Wolfe where we couldn't do it. No, it's very sad. 105 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,399 We get Big Tea calling Kyle. How do we feel about the Kyle 106 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:32,000 cameo? Guys? I loved it, but that was very random, super 107 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,480 random. I didn't know they were friends either. It was kind of fun 108 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,439 to see him since we haven't seen him for a while. Yeah, Big 109 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:45,959 Tea says he was on her last season. That doesn't seem right at all. 110 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,399 I didn't do the I didn't like go back and figure it out, 111 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,439 Zach. Do you know off the top of your head was what was Big 112 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:57,040 Tea's last season? Spies Lies and Allies are double as one of the Spies 113 00:07:57,079 --> 00:08:01,839 ones. Yeah, I think let me go look at how So Yeah, 114 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:09,079 Pig Forever so yeah, it was a Spylis and Allies and was Kyle on 115 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:13,399 that Yeah, Kyle got second place that season. Okay, yeah, so 116 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:16,839 that would have been the last. And I think big T technically retired after 117 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,759 that season, which means she took one season off and then she's back. 118 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,680 Yeah. I feel like Kyle's been gone a lot longer that. Yeah, 119 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,120 and I don't think he's retired. I think he just had the baby and 120 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,000 stuff and he's just been doing other stuff. But I mean this is also 121 00:08:31,039 --> 00:08:35,320 the only second only the second season since then. Yes, but yeah, 122 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:39,240 Spy Lives and Allies aired from August through December of twenty twenty one, so 123 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,919 it's been like two years since we saw him. Yeah, I guess it 124 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,200 is yeah, crazy, Yeah, it was nice to see him. Oh 125 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,720 the lotokle kid was cute. I don't know, sure, it's fine whatever, 126 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:58,120 bring him back. Yeah. We get a conversation with Corey trying to 127 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:05,600 kind of smooth things over with Melissa. Tell me so sick. I wish 128 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:11,519 this asshole last time. I know it. He's intolerable. What is it 129 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:15,039 about him? Wolfy, can you put it into words? He's so fucking 130 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,399 fake? Yeah, like he says all this stuff. Well, I really 131 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,279 hope we could move forward. I really hope this, And then like cut 132 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,799 to a confessional where he's just like, yeah, I'm gonna turn on everybody. 133 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,360 Everybody. He seems smug to me, and I hate smug people. 134 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,879 Yes, that is a good way to put it. Yeah, he seems 135 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:37,159 incredibly smug. I'm the same way. Every time he's on the screen. 136 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:39,080 It's just like, get the fuck out of here. I just don't want 137 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,240 anything to do with that guy. So if we had him and asof and 138 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:50,200 an elimination, who you rooting for Tim oh Man? I think so, 139 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:54,000 but barely. That's why I asked him. I knew wolf he would be 140 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,159 asof. Yeah, I think it is ASoft, but it's like by by 141 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,120 a Hair. I hate them both. I think Aesop's a little smug too. 142 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:07,799 Frankly, Yeah, nobody likes Cory's hair. Okay, Yeah, there's 143 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:15,399 ridiculous. That's twice. Everybody hates it. It's so stupid. But they're 144 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,279 talking and Corey says something like, I hope I can we can rebuild this 145 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,519 trust and like work together again or whatever. And Melissa is just like, 146 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:24,120 well, you know, I'm not gonna hold it against you, but no, 147 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,639 like, of course, I'm not gonna trust you or you stupid. 148 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:31,919 That's fair, that's fair. Yeah, the bar Cory is so stupid, 149 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,799 all right? And with that word to the challenge, I'm gonna smash his 150 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:41,240 head, need it? There we go. This one's called tower of Power. 151 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:46,960 And hey, did you guys know Jay did a similar elimination against CT 152 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,960 and won it. Did you guys know that? Yes? Yes, Okay, 153 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,799 Well if you didn't, we're gonna we're gonna go over in about six 154 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,039 times. Jay won't shut up about it, keeps talking about it, and 155 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,720 because of that one experience, thinks he is a super pro at this. 156 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,919 And obviously you tie chains instead of ropes because chains are like a necklace, 157 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,639 and necklaces are hard to untie, and blah blah blah blah blah. Sure, 158 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:13,679 Jasmus go to his head, right, Jason a little bit of a 159 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,080 power trip with this shit. Yeah, I was gonna say I did see 160 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,879 to bring up you know, him mentioning CT several times. We do know 161 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,960 CT is coming in later this season. I've seen some people speculating, is 162 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,080 this them laying the breadcrumbs that we're gaining J vers CT Part two. I 163 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,639 think that's a really good guess. I had the same thought because he mentioned 164 00:11:35,639 --> 00:11:39,600 it obviously like several times during this challenge, and then it came back again 165 00:11:39,759 --> 00:11:43,759 at the end of the episode. So yes, it sure seems like they're 166 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,399 leading that direction. Did we say that Jay did something racist this season goose 167 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,600 force once to know? Yeah, I read he dropped the N bomb and 168 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:58,360 made some enemies this season. Yeah, I remember, like preseason that's discussed 169 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,200 that, like either then or like on the ext episode. I don't remember 170 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,679 the details of it now I don't either, and maybe I'm talking out of 171 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,759 my ass, but I swear I read something like that because I I just 172 00:12:07,799 --> 00:12:09,559 thought to myself, like, really j would do like Jay doesn't seem the 173 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:15,360 type. But anyway, if you did kick him off, send him home. 174 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:16,600 I agree. You gotta pull like a d right, you gotta do 175 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,320 that and edit and like you gotta treat them both the same if they're both 176 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:26,039 sort of similar situations. Yep, don't don't pull a Camilla and you word 177 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,120 him with like half a million dollars. Yeah. Well, anyway back to 178 00:12:30,279 --> 00:12:33,559 Tower of Power, guys, Zach, you're gonna break down this challenge for 179 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:41,399 us, absolutely. I remember what it is. You have to stack up 180 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,879 a bunch of stack up a bunch of ship yeah, the other person's tower. 181 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,080 Yeah, whitch and you got to break in. Yeah, and whoever 182 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,919 gets to the top and lowers the flag first wins. Well, we were 183 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,039 just talking about the cteth and then my mind completed, like what the challenge 184 00:12:56,039 --> 00:13:01,559 even was? Yeah, well, well if he nailed it, he did. 185 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,759 I was shocked that they like, I mean, I guess I'm not 186 00:13:03,879 --> 00:13:07,720 shocked, but like I guess I expected both to have an equal like pile 187 00:13:07,799 --> 00:13:09,480 of like stuff they could use. So surprised me. Why I saw that 188 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,600 they were fighting over things, which I don't know if I like that more 189 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,559 or less, that like one team got an advantage with the chains over the 190 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:24,840 rope. Yeah, I don't know. I guess it's just they should have 191 00:13:24,879 --> 00:13:28,679 played into that more if that's going to be the case, because that didn't 192 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:35,879 seem to really do a whole lot at all. Yeah. I like these 193 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,799 I like the challenge that it is sort of it's it's not so fast in 194 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:43,440 a way that it's like, first you build your obstacles and then you have 195 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:46,399 to tear down the other person's obstacles that they built. So I kind of 196 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,159 like that. I don't know, I kind of like this challenge. I 197 00:13:48,159 --> 00:13:54,039 thought it was pretty cool, but yeah, also kind of anti climactic. 198 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,639 I didn't take a lot of notes. What's that change? It was the 199 00:13:58,759 --> 00:14:01,799 chains that did it all? It sure seems that way. I mean, 200 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,600 Jay took all the credit for all the chains. Kylin seems to have fallen 201 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:09,559 on this sword about the rope that he kind of screwed up the rope implementation. 202 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,960 I don't even know, man like to tie him not. That seems 203 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,399 like it didn't slow him down much at all. I was gonna say it 204 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,240 could just be creative editing, but it seems like despite all that, like 205 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:26,720 it was a pretty close race. So do we think that Jay just over 206 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,200 emphasized the importance of the chains or is Kyland just that good at untangling chains? 207 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,559 I think maybe both. I do think Jay this went to his head. 208 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,919 I think it's he mentioned beating CT like four times or something crazy as 209 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:48,360 we're watching this elimination, and he just wanted to he wanted to kind of 210 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:52,000 take credit for something like this, I think, and I think that I 211 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:56,080 think Kylin did take responsibility. I think he genuinely felt bad. He felt 212 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,519 like he screwed it up, just happen to be a woman's day, so 213 00:14:58,559 --> 00:15:03,600 he kind of go off got off easy for it. Yeah, but yeah, 214 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,279 it seemed like it was a close, close ish race. The one 215 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,960 team was at least at the final door when the other team was running up 216 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,559 the tower, So it wasn't It wasn't like a complete blowout. But yeah, 217 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:16,960 Orange team one other than that guy that didn't take any money many notes 218 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,440 through this competition, I don't know, is there anything else we want to 219 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:26,399 talk about. Kylon got him in the face with a chain, which I 220 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,120 thought we might have another Olivia type situation. That seems like he is okay. 221 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,919 Yeah, but it's another It wasn't that like like four inches away from 222 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,240 his eyeball like that could have been that could have knocked at his eye. 223 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,440 Yeah. When they first when they first cut away and like him on his 224 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:45,039 face, I thought we're gonna come back to like blood drip and a big 225 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,279 dash and that. So I was like, Oh, he's okay, Like 226 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,440 he'll live there was, but there was blood. I mean quite a bit 227 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,360 of blood. There was. There was a messier one of the messier injuries 228 00:15:54,399 --> 00:15:58,600 we've seen on the show. Yeah, but when he gets back home, 229 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,559 they he just has like a piece of tape with someone. Wasn't that big 230 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,879 of a deal. Head injuries do bleed a lot. I it looked messy, 231 00:16:04,919 --> 00:16:10,000 but yeah, it was probably just a little cut. Well Orange Team 232 00:16:10,039 --> 00:16:15,120 wins. Orange Team consists of Jame James, j Mariah Corey, e Manuel 233 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,840 Raven, Nurice Zara, and Berna. Uh So, between all of them, 234 00:16:19,919 --> 00:16:26,159 they have to select one woman. And I did watch this episode twice 235 00:16:26,279 --> 00:16:27,759 once to just watch it and wants to take notes, And the second time 236 00:16:27,799 --> 00:16:32,320 around, I really tried to pay attention to who brought up Welliss's name first, 237 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,840 because that's it seems to be the focus for the rest of the whole 238 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:38,840 fucking episode. Yeah, uh it was I Manuel. Guys, there was 239 00:16:38,879 --> 00:16:45,799 ever any confusion e Manuel. But I didn't think it was interesting that every 240 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,039 time they brought it up when they were sort of debating on who to throw 241 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,200 in, they brought them up as a pair. They always said Big T 242 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:56,080 and Melissa. Uh from what they showed us they didn't settle on either name. 243 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:03,000 Yeah, well I think they Jesus Christ him. I know, I'm 244 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:06,839 gonna have to meet myself for a second run up and yell at him. 245 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:14,119 Well, it seems like they picked Melissa and people were just like, hey, 246 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,680 what, we should pick Big Tea And they're like, oh, we're 247 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,839 going to vote her in for the house anyway, so who cares. So 248 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,000 it seems like they've really wanted to get Melissa in there just in case something 249 00:17:26,039 --> 00:17:30,680 went wrong, which I agree would probably be the better choice. Yeah. 250 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,319 I love I love Big Tea, but she's not a big thread and a 251 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:38,359 bunch of stuff. So yeah, so I don't know. Yeah, I 252 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,960 thought I thought that was the way they did Melissa, because it seems like 253 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:45,720 the dissenters, you know, wanted Big Tea and like if like if they 254 00:17:45,759 --> 00:17:49,640 were just gonna throw the other one in at the vote, like why why 255 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,920 not? Just like sure, we'll give you Big Tea first, like if 256 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,680 that'll make you happy, and then you're gonna turn around like support Melissa in 257 00:17:56,799 --> 00:18:00,359 the house boat then yeah, like why not? Yeah, yeah, fully 258 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,799 agree. It seemed like the majority wants Big Team Melissa. So at some 259 00:18:04,839 --> 00:18:07,880 point, it's like who cares? How we divide this up, like one's 260 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,559 gonna be the house, one's gonna be the other one who cares? But 261 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:18,240 anyway, they decided to go with Melissa for this vote. And yeah, 262 00:18:18,319 --> 00:18:22,079 Jay seems to be the biggest sort of opposing force. He's trying to sell 263 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,799 him on somebody bigger. Nobody has given him the time of night. He 264 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:30,240 doesn't know time of day. Nobody's listening. And that's about it for the 265 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:36,599 challenge. We're back in the house. Yes, we'll be full of energy 266 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,680 tonight. I appreciate that. I did like this exchange. This is when 267 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:48,440 Melissa approached Mariah to see who voted for her. I loved Mariah in this 268 00:18:48,519 --> 00:18:52,519 scene. What did you guys think? Do you remember it? Yeah? 269 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:56,000 She says she's not really gonna say anybody, She's not gonna say anything. 270 00:18:56,319 --> 00:19:00,319 Yeah, which I say is fair enough. I'm just not gonna deal with 271 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,960 it. Yeah, it's very fair that there's no lies, there's no covering 272 00:19:04,039 --> 00:19:07,279 up. Mariah's just like, I'm sorry, I'm just not gonna tell you 273 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,160 that, and they ask her again and he's like, I'm sorry, I'm 274 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,119 just not I'm sorry. I'm just not gonna say it. I thought it 275 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,799 was a kind of a good way to deal with this. And I don't 276 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:18,680 know if we've ever seen anything like this on the Challenge. The only way 277 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:23,240 to win the game, tim is not to play. I guess I was 278 00:19:23,319 --> 00:19:26,119 really like, I just really liked it. I don't know what I was 279 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,359 expecting of Mariah, but this just seemed very like no nonsense, very just 280 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,759 cut and dry. Just I know what you want, You're not getting it 281 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:37,720 from me. That's just that's just a no Zach, What do you think 282 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,200 about this? I think, yeah, she didn't want to throw people on 283 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,920 there the bus, but like, I don't even know if it's a case 284 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,240 of you're not going to get it from me, and I guess in terms 285 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:49,240 of like smelling the beans, But Mariah did tweet out during that so that 286 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:55,559 like she was actively like trying to flip the boat to Colleen and just didn't 287 00:19:55,599 --> 00:19:59,119 want to tell Big Tea or Melissa that because then they would run around the 288 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,440 house spreading it and she'd get in trouble. Yeah, which is a very 289 00:20:03,519 --> 00:20:07,720 forward thing thing. I wonder if Bananas gave her this advice, probably just 290 00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:11,440 play your cards close to your chest. Don't say anything, you don't have 291 00:20:11,599 --> 00:20:19,319 to. I kind of liked it in her confessionals though Melissa is talking about 292 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:27,200 well, Melissa and Mariah are both talking about Colleen because mel wonders, like, 293 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,279 why isn't anybody voting for Colleen? Colleen must sort of be working with 294 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,880 them under the radar, and Mariah thinks, well, Colleen must be working 295 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:40,000 with all these other people and not telling me about it. Are both of 296 00:20:40,079 --> 00:20:41,279 these concerned, like, I mean, they can't both be right, But 297 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:48,440 is either more right than the other or is this all just paranoia? I 298 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,519 seriously forgot Colleen was on this show, so paranoia is would be your I 299 00:20:53,599 --> 00:21:00,759 don't know who she's working with because we haven't barely seen Jack Shitiver and seven 300 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:03,759 and a half episode. I mean some we saw Michelle talk about later. 301 00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:07,599 I think it just simply comes down to the fact that Colleen is an international 302 00:21:08,319 --> 00:21:11,400 like Big Tea in Melissa. But at the end of the day, she's 303 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,160 been voting with the Americans, So why take out someone that's voting with you 304 00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:19,359 over two people that are actively working against you. Yeah, she's a number 305 00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:25,000 for the Americans. And also she is probably one of the easier people to 306 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,759 just sort of keep around. She sort of is unproven. I don't know. 307 00:21:26,839 --> 00:21:30,519 She seems like on the smaller end of the women. Yes, and 308 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,240 you know chaosk who's next? Now? The big tea is that? And 309 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,039 I would not be shocked if we've just started seeing Melissa and Colleen be the 310 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:41,279 next. Like I think she's the next one up in line. I think 311 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,559 so too. And it's weird that they're going after the sort of smaller, 312 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,200 not less, less strong women. It seems like this is the time you 313 00:21:48,279 --> 00:21:52,440 throw in Olivia, you know, let a champ deal with them. But 314 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,759 these people are dumb, Yeah they are. Yes, it's frustrating to watch. 315 00:21:57,079 --> 00:22:03,240 All right, we're in a barnight, guys. Yeah, keep it 316 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:07,119 going, keep it going. No? No, uh? Did you guys 317 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,960 notice this like super weird way that it started this episode with, Like I 318 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:14,880 think Corey was up on one of the benches yelling, and then it like 319 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,319 zoomed over and like e Manuel was yelling back. It was like, real 320 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,599 fucking weird. Do you guys notice this? I don't know, it's weird. 321 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:25,039 I noticed it, but I don't know if it was weird or not. 322 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,000 It seemed so weird to me. It seems super uncomfortable. It seemed 323 00:22:29,039 --> 00:22:33,240 like producers would just sort of like get hyped guys jump up and dance or 324 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:36,160 something, and they just started doing this weird shit. Seemed very weird. 325 00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:40,319 I did not like that. Uh, all right, we get I Manuel 326 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:47,720 approaching Kyland, and from their conversation at the bar, it seems like Emanuel 327 00:22:47,799 --> 00:22:51,359 wants to befriend Kyland, wants to work with him, wants to plan together, 328 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,920 and then we cut to a confessional and e Manuel it is just sort 329 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,160 of like, fuck, Kyland. I'm gonna pretend to be his friend, 330 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,359 but I'm gonna stab him in the back and I'm gonna come with my army. 331 00:23:02,839 --> 00:23:07,480 What the fuck is this? What an army? I thought? Otherwise? 332 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,279 Sure, why not? I mean, this is all weird. You 333 00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:14,240 don't have to pretend to be his friend. You can just go after him. 334 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:18,200 I don't know what is he Manuell doing here, Zach, what is 335 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,880 he Manuel doing? I think you know that like Kyland already made a shot 336 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,640 at him last week, and so it could be easy. Once you throw 337 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,119 someone in there, say their name to be like hey, like I've already 338 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,200 done it once, rather than put someone new off, let me stick doing 339 00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:36,000 that. So Manuel is like, well, he could just easily keep saying 340 00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:37,839 my name. Let me befriend him. So that way, if he gets 341 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,359 power again, he'll be like afraid to say my name because I'm his alliance. 342 00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:48,039 Hm. I think that's given him more credit than he deserves. But 343 00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:49,039 I'll give it to you, Zack. That's the only that's the only thing 344 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,039 that makes sense. I couldn't even make sense of it, and that makes 345 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:59,599 little sense to me. Yeah, we get Raven and Colleen talking, and 346 00:23:59,759 --> 00:24:03,759 so after this conversation, Colleen knows Mariah is sort of focused on her, 347 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:10,079 which is sort of starting another controversy thing. So, yeah, Colleen is 348 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:15,799 involved in some drama. But the real drama here is Melissa. She is 349 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,920 on a quest. She wants to find out who started her name in this 350 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,920 you know, Winner's circle to throw her in. So she just confronts everybody 351 00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:26,480 one on one, just going through everybody, trying to figure this out. 352 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,279 Why does this matter so much? That was gonna be my question to you, 353 00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:34,519 Why does it matter? We don't understand, Zach, why does it 354 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:40,680 matter? Apparently there's a few people that you know, went along with the 355 00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:44,720 Melissa vote that she thought would have her back, and so I think just 356 00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:48,440 trying to see like who was actually kind of strong armed into this and overridden 357 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,559 by the majority, and who was lying to my face and like going along 358 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,680 trying to get rid of me from the beginning. But I think what you're 359 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:02,920 asking Wolfe is like does it matter? Like like I know that's what happened, 360 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,920 but does it matter? No, it's going in no matter what, 361 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:10,119 Yeah, deal with it, And she's probably not going to change their minds 362 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,640 if if they've kind of voted against her once, they're going to do it 363 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,359 again. Yes, Yeah, And I know like the answer will be, 364 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:21,279 well, she's trying to sort of weed out who's actually working with her and 365 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:26,759 who's not. But again, who cares? Yeah, It's it's obvious that 366 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:32,400 you are being targeted every week now, So yeah, I think her. 367 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,599 I think her and Big TV. You know, we're upset with Corey because 368 00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:40,200 they felt like he embarrassed him on TV. So we see this week like 369 00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:42,480 she's she has a lot of trust in James and so many part of it's 370 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:45,599 like, well is James doing this to me? Because I don't want to 371 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:48,160 look stupid again where I'm here on TV being like I love him, he's 372 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,640 my best friend and he's out there trying to screw me over from the beginning. 373 00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:00,279 Yeah, yeah, maybe so it's they just it all. It does 374 00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:02,559 seem like they're talking out of both sides of their mouth too, because then 375 00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:07,079 their confessionals Big Ta and Melissa will both say consistently like it's us against the 376 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,200 world. We have the smallest alliance. It's just us too. Everybody's against 377 00:26:10,279 --> 00:26:14,960 us. And so to me it seems obvious like everyone's against you, Like 378 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:18,759 that's why they threw you in, because that's what you've been saying the whole 379 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:22,440 season of what you are. I don't know, it's kind of weird. 380 00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:30,200 We have that most awkward scene in the bar where Melissa is talking to Berna, 381 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,000 who calls over Mariah in an attempt to sort of diffuse the situation. 382 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,519 Are I just wearing like a tube top? Situation going on? Yeah, 383 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:47,480 looks about three sizes too small, which I'm not complaining. I liked it. 384 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,000 It was nice. Uh, but yeah, and Berna I think really 385 00:26:53,599 --> 00:27:00,160 screwed up this interaction. Maybe a language barrier thing. Maybe Burna's just a 386 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,240 little naive, but I don't know. Did you guys, did you guys, 387 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:08,000 gather anything from this conversation. It was weird. I don't. I 388 00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:12,519 don't know. Berna's just awkward. Yeah, like why did she have to 389 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:18,079 call Mariah over? Like she just had to, like so that someone can 390 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,160 sort of back her up or version of events or whatever. I guess, 391 00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:25,799 But yeah, it's just like Melissa could have been like I talked to Mariah 392 00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:30,440 already. It's like, I don't This whole situation was weird. It really 393 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,400 was. Melissa was on this quest for something that doesn't ultimately matter. Everybody 394 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,079 was lying to her, which of course they were, so then she in 395 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,759 turn lied to everybody else to get them to tell the truth, and that's 396 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:45,400 I don't know. It just got really weird. Ultimately ended in a confrontation 397 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:52,400 between Melissa and Raven where Melissa throws a fit, throws a drink. I 398 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,799 don't know that the security has to get involved. Yeah, all the stuff, 399 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,200 I don't know. That was barnight. Anything else added to barnight, 400 00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:04,319 guys. Now we're plowing through this episode. Guys, No, Carlin, 401 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:11,720 no bullshit. I think we might have found U. Do we find the 402 00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:15,200 issue in the podcast going too long? Yes? It is, Carlin. 403 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,440 What is it with women on this podcast always talking too much, Wolfy, 404 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:25,599 your wife was a worse ex wife ex wife wife at the time. That 405 00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:32,880 part's important, all right. So before the nominations, we also get one 406 00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:38,039 lighthearted and hilarious exchange between Big T and Ed where Big T is literally trying 407 00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:47,000 to buy Ed's vote with ten euro. I don't know when she came out 408 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:49,920 on social media as actually she went and took that money from Harassio, like 409 00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:56,799 to stop without telling him, so she has private Rossio's money. Uh, 410 00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:59,839 this is one that, like, you know, these ninety minute episodes include 411 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,640 some fluff. This is a part of the fluff that's like, I get 412 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,960 rid of this. We don't need this ship sure, since it was in 413 00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:08,400 it's fun. I enjoyed it. I'm glad they didn't get rid of this 414 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,599 sluff. This was I think there's a lot of stuff like we agree at 415 00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:15,400 the bar and I think you get ri but I like to see these kind 416 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,720 of fun moments. Yeah, I don't know. I think what what I 417 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:23,240 didn't like is that it was sort of performance. You know, it was 418 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:30,000 like a performance, scripted stage gag. It wasn't like a genuine moment that 419 00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:33,640 they had you know, I don't know. It just felt like like so 420 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,039 much of the season, it just feels like performance. It doesn't feel like 421 00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:42,240 genuine for whatever reason, So any I could have done about this personally, 422 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:49,680 that's just me after that one A nomination, Oh we got something at work 423 00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:55,240 that was cool. Nope, I just played it off my soundboard home nice. 424 00:29:56,079 --> 00:30:00,400 Uh. Well, before they get started, Kylin gets on a little 425 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,559 soapbox talks about how you shouldn't just just vote for the majority. That's kind 426 00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:07,880 of a bullshit pussy move. You should be brave, you should express your 427 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,960 reasoning and not just vote with the majority. What do you guys think is 428 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,519 kind of have a point here? Uh no, because he's gonna do the 429 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:22,079 exact opposite. About five Zach does kind of have a point. He has 430 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,759 a point. I don't know if it's a good one, but he has 431 00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:27,759 a point. It's a bad one. It's bad. It's the worst one. 432 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,759 It's such a bad point that stupid asoff had me agreeing with him because 433 00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:37,039 aesof it was the second was the next one to talk and he's like, 434 00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:40,079 dude, sometimes that is the reason. I'm telling you the reason. The 435 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,480 reason is that the majority is going I can't change it. I don't have 436 00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:45,960 a problem with you, but I'm choosing you because that's who everybody's choosing, 437 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,039 and that is a perfectly valid reason. You don't have to choose somebody different 438 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:57,599 just because the majority is picking them. Yeah. Nothing, nobody. I 439 00:30:57,599 --> 00:31:00,960 don't know if you guys though, So Hyland actually said that on Twitter, 440 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,440 even if the majority was not going for Big T, he was still going 441 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:11,240 to go for Big T this week. Then why is he saying this right 442 00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:15,319 like the majority is already going for Big T. Why is he making like 443 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,640 this stand like sometimes you got to stand on your own. Yeah, it's 444 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,599 weird because yeah, he voted for Big T. Yeah, like, what 445 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,039 are you doing? Is he not brave? Maybe? I don't know he 446 00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:30,480 said is he said? His explanation if we believe it, is that like 447 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,279 Big T Melissa kept getting targeted as a pair, and he's like, if 448 00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:37,640 I could get rid of big T, then maybe like Melissa fades into the 449 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:44,960 background, some people are less worried about her. Yeah, well, if 450 00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:47,519 if that was what, if he wanted Big T, and he shouldn't have 451 00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:51,240 said anything because all he's really doing is encouraging people to not vote Big TA. 452 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,319 By saying, don't vote with the majority. I don't get it. 453 00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:59,799 This is weird, yeah, real stupid, big t She knows she's on 454 00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:02,839 the shopping block, so she pitches reasons why they should keep her, and 455 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,440 really all she can come up with is well, I won the last one, 456 00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:08,240 so you guys have ten grand more than you had last time, and 457 00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:13,400 that's because of me, so maybe you should save me. Good pitch, 458 00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:15,200 guys, bad pitch? What do you think? I mean, it might 459 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,559 be her only pitch. Is she the only one who won? Yeah, 460 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,240 yes, she's the only one to be the champ so far. Yeah, 461 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:29,519 so I'm better than all you fuckers. Yeah, it's I mean, I 462 00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:32,119 don't think it's a good pitch. I don't think these guys care frankly about 463 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,319 the ten grand, So I don't think it's a great pitch. But I 464 00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,119 think you're right, Wolfe. It's all she had, you know. Her 465 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,400 other pitch would be just sort of like, I don't want to I've already 466 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,000 been it should be somebody else's turn, which is also kind of a weak 467 00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:52,640 move. Better start caring, because Jesus Christ, they're losing some Yeah, 468 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:59,359 I know, this prize pot is like pathetic. Well, they vote guys 469 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:06,720 as Big Team. Not a surprise. Well yep. So after the nominations, 470 00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,119 Big Ta and Melissa they meet up in their bedroom and they talk and 471 00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:13,759 they kind of know like it's probably gonna be one of them going home. 472 00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:19,680 They kind of say they're goodbyes. They kind of bond over this, like 473 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,359 probably one of them is probably going to go home. They looked at Melissa's 474 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,880 daughter picture of the daughter. Yeah, Tim, you like this kind of 475 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,680 bullshit? I did kind of like this bullshit, Yeah I did. It's 476 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,119 usually just the dads, but it turns out like a little soft spot for 477 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,480 the moms too. She was kind of wigging out about those pictures of that 478 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:43,160 little girl. I could deal with that, all right. Well with that, 479 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:52,480 we're onto the elimination, all right, Well, not much to say 480 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:55,839 here. It's Big Ta and mel They're down in the sand outwalks. Casey 481 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,319 kind of landed with a thud, didn't It was that? Just me? 482 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,519 Well? Yeah, people were cheering, people were excited to see her. 483 00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:13,599 Yeah, were you guys though? Were you? Yes? Really? I 484 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,280 like I like Casey, and especially in this type of atmosphere where she's not 485 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,880 coming on to like free like entertaining television. She's just there to like smash 486 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:29,199 people. I think that's where her strength is. Agreed, Yeah, yeah, 487 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,559 and it was nice to see her. I don't know. I just 488 00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:32,320 don't get pumped for Casey. She's just a sort of boring to me. 489 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:37,639 I like her, but she's not like it's not like Cars. Yeah, 490 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:39,360 better than cast for sure, but no Car Maria. I'm gonna be pumped 491 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,360 in Car comes out because I missed her. I really like her. I 492 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,519 root for Kara. Casey is just like, Casey exists and she's fine. 493 00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:52,079 But that's kind of how I feel about Casey. Uh well, she pulls 494 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:58,679 the little hammer thing, she pulls big t yep yep, gives a very 495 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:04,360 frustrated n I'm it she's really upset. Guys, she was so mad. 496 00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:09,480 Yeah, she was the one person. This is just more performance man worst 497 00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:14,440 actress. This Casey is terrible actress. Which made me feel bad for Melissa 498 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,880 because you know, both before that, both of them were like, oh, 499 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,880 we love Katie, like she's our friend. And then could you imagine 500 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,840 Melissa's hand, They being like, oh, I didn't want to go against 501 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,880 Pig. I wanted to go against anyone else. Yeah, that's true. 502 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,559 Well, the elimination this time around cast is called poll in the storm, 503 00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:35,400 which is so stupid. Why did they do this? Why did they do 504 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,760 this because it was raining? So stupid? That is the stupidest ship. 505 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,280 Just call it pull wrestle. This is like one of these classic games that 506 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,800 we like that we enjoy. Why are you changing just because it happens to 507 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,960 be raining? This dumb They probably were calling it pull rustle and then like 508 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:53,800 some producer off on the side made a joke about it, and TJ's like, 509 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,360 Oh, that's funny. I'm gonna go with that. Yeah. I 510 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,880 just don't get it, like it's not it's on to play on words or 511 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,159 anything. I just don't why would you change it? I don't like it. 512 00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:07,840 Soon as they announced pole Wrestle, I was like, oh, that's 513 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:14,320 been fun, big tea. I do think this helps support our suspicion that 514 00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:20,519 these champs are getting eliminations suited to their strength in the game. I think 515 00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:22,480 so. But that's okay, that's okay, right. We were fine with 516 00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:27,800 that. Oh I wish that they would advertise it more and be like, 517 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,639 no, only do you have to be a CHAMPI you gotta be a champion 518 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,360 like in their game, like this is their element, what they're known for. 519 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,239 Yeah, I would be fine with whatever they have to do to make 520 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,440 it harder on them, Like that's you know, I don't I'm not watching 521 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,159 the challenge for a fair fight, not interested in that. I want to 522 00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:47,960 see people get the shit kicked out of them. Yeah, so it's Casey 523 00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:52,559 versus Big Ta in a pole wrestle. Wolfee, I think you spoke for 524 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,360 every single person watching when it's like, all right, buy a big tea, 525 00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:59,840 Like why why are we even bothering to watch this or do this? 526 00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:04,239 And I think we can all agree that Casey took it easy on her, 527 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:10,360 right, Casey let her have the second round. I don't know she nesa 528 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,800 went easy, but like I do think Kimer, who was someone up there, 529 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,880 said, you know, like Casey's just kind of like letting big T 530 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,440 wear herself out. So I think in that sense she's going easy. But 531 00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:23,480 like, I don't think she meant to give big T the win in the 532 00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:28,320 second round. You don't think so? No, I think she's legit just 533 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,159 trying to wait, let Big T like tire herself out and then just do 534 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:35,960 like one last yank and like win it two. Oh we will never know, 535 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:39,760 but I think that Casey gave her that second win. Frankly, well 536 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:45,039 for you, do you have an opinion? No chatroom? What do you 537 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:49,360 say? We're gonna the chat room? Chien in. Yeah, so it's 538 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,280 best two out of three. So they did actually go the full three rounds. 539 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,719 Casey won the first round, in the third and and so big T 540 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,880 goes home. Case has deaf yep, Jamie says, I thought she gave 541 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,760 her that win. Yeah, I think so too. The second round it 542 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,480 did not look like Casey was trying all that hard. It looked like she 543 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:10,599 was just sort of holding on to let Big T. You have to struggle 544 00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:14,639 to win. But I mean, at the end of the day, Casey, 545 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,199 Casey was gonna win this no matter what she I mean, it was 546 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,239 nice for her to give a win to big T. But I think she 547 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:35,239 did. That's it, No, no big tea. Let's slip that she's 548 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,480 maybe not as retired as she originally said she was. Yeah, she loves 549 00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:42,960 this game. She's definitely not retired anymore. Yeah. That they kind have 550 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,400 annoyed me because the last time we saw her, she made a big deal 551 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,599 but I'm retiring. And then this time she's like, oh, I'm not 552 00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:50,719 gonna retire. I love this game too much. It's like, well, 553 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,800 you didn't love it that much two seasons ago. I'm convinced that some of 554 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,880 these people retire just for like the the little bit of social media clout they 555 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:01,760 get in the weeks that follow, where you know, everybody says like, 556 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,440 oh no, please don't. I want to see you back, and you 557 00:39:05,519 --> 00:39:08,719 know whatever. We've seen West retire a couple of times. Big T retired 558 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,719 for precisely one season. Come on, Big T, go fuck yourself with 559 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,159 that ship. Uh Chaos? Did car retire? No? Carra was forced 560 00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:22,639 into a little time out by production, and that timeout seems to be like 561 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:27,840 it's it's ending. So it seemed like it was much in Heaton. We 562 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,360 can all agree. Yeah, I think it was probably good for her and 563 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:35,840 good for us. She mentally had something going on. She needed to not 564 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,480 be doing this for a little bit. Yeah. His name is Pollie. 565 00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:44,559 Who's that too? And I think he's still going on. Oh well, 566 00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,239 that's it, Big T goes. Everybody head over to challenge pot dot com, 567 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,079 joining the Facebook group. You can also patre what if you get it. 568 00:39:51,159 --> 00:39:52,039 I enjoyed the Patriot tip. All right. Five bucks a month, 569 00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:55,320 guys, five bucks a month and you get ad free episodes. You get 570 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,960 before shows, after shows. Tonight's after somebody be talking about my new data 571 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:05,480 life. I've just started dating again and if anybody, any listeners want to 572 00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:09,000 date me, uh do it? Just nothing, nothing stopping you. It's 573 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:13,159 just that girl who was all about you. I don't know if she goes 574 00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:17,559 to me. Dude, stopped you applying to me? Heartbreaking? I mean 575 00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:22,920 it's uk. Kay's my new girl. Kay want you to date a Nissa? 576 00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:30,000 Okay? Done? We are dating currently. Uh so yeah, before 577 00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:31,880 shows, after shows, pre shows, all this stuff, years and years 578 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,880 worth of content. You can listen to both both me and wolf Y's ex 579 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,320 wives. Zach, your ex wife is not a lot of the show. 580 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:43,239 She's never on the show. That's good. And we also say your name. 581 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,199 So thank you to Alvin, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Emily, 582 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,519 Greg, Jamie Joker, Julie Martez, Patty roled In, Ryan, Samuel, 583 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,039 Sarah Sarah, Scott, Seth Shack, and Stan the Man. Thanks 584 00:40:54,079 --> 00:41:04,159 everybody, Kay says Tim rate the episode Solid three. I don't know what 585 00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:07,840 would you guys give it out of ten? She didn't ask me. I'm 586 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,360 not right, I'm asking you. Let me think I'm gonna give it. 587 00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:17,320 I give it a little bit. I'd give it a I'd give it a 588 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:22,239 six, all right, very thoughtful answer, zach Y. Yeah, I'm 589 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:27,400 just trying. I was like, we got we got like drinks being thrown 590 00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:30,599 and like security new poll people parts. I figured out at least you get 591 00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:31,920 it like up to a six. Yeah, No, I like that. 592 00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:35,639 My mine's just more of a gut check. I don't. I don't put 593 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,960 much thought into anything in life. I just react with my gut. I 594 00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:43,480 like watching Casey throw people around, so you know it wasn't terrible. I 595 00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,400 do like a pole wrestle. I do like a poor bring bring back the 596 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:54,840 classic game. That was kidding. Yeah, that's it. Even though we 597 00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,559 don't have any reviews, we do have a comment on Spotify. Oh and 598 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,079 Amanda not previous host? Man, are you sure? Well, unless she 599 00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:08,719 got married right away and has a different last name, he's in a fake 600 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:14,920 name, or you wouldn't read it. That's also true, says I think 601 00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:20,320 Banana's never wants to be played for a fool. Mariah is someone he actually 602 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,920 caught feelings for, and this is embarrassing for him. I didn't want to 603 00:42:23,039 --> 00:42:30,280 give up anyone the satisfaction of showing up. Do we think that's true? 604 00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:32,840 I don't. I don't think this pertains the rumor that Bananas was gonna be 605 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,960 one of the mercenaries, but he would pulled out at the last second, 606 00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:40,519 right, Yes, Do we even believe that rumor that was Banana's gonna be 607 00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:47,480 a mercenary on this season? Woh uh? I think I could see it. 608 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:55,960 I don't think that Bananas would would not do it because of Mariah. 609 00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:00,920 I think Banana's is he won the attention. He wants to make a splash, 610 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,800 He wants to be there. I think his appearance there would mean more 611 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:10,239 to him than Mariah quote cheating on him. Mm hmm. I mean, 612 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,880 I guess you got some arrement though, Like if he wanted the attention, 613 00:43:14,119 --> 00:43:15,719 like he knows that people are out there that like spoil the show, and 614 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,960 then they would get out that he was supposed to be on the show and 615 00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:23,760 that like Mariah's the reason he's not, and would that possibly bring him more 616 00:43:24,159 --> 00:43:30,880 like discussion than just being there. Yeah, I don't know. One of 617 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,760 these things. Man, if I ever run into him an airport, I'll 618 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:38,800 talk to while you're at it, I will. Uh, But yeah, 619 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,760 I don't know. I don't know. I don't think we'll ever know. 620 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,280 I think if Bonanza's was going to be a mercenary, he was always going 621 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:51,480 to be a mercenary, frankly, and and would be still. I don't 622 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:57,719 think he would shy away from the drama. Well, I'm guessing they had 623 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,800 the mercenaries all all there, like hotel together something, so we'll have to 624 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,639 ask one of the mercenaries it was there, like, was Banana with you 625 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,840 guys and then pulled out? You know? Yeah, Case says that Brad 626 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,840 was their random choice, so Brad replaced him. I don't think Brad's a 627 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,239 random choice. I did think, like, because that's why I think like, 628 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,920 if Banana's backed out, who would have been like the backup replacement? 629 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,639 And I did think like, yeah, Brad's the one that just seems like 630 00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:24,639 they're like, oh, we need someone last minute, who can we get 631 00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:30,360 Yeah? You know, uh, some of my friends we have a joke 632 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,119 that that's like the challenge mania backup Brads, just that person where they're like, 633 00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:37,079 who's just so desperate that if we ask him he'll always say yeah, 634 00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:42,239 Oh, don't talk about my Brad saying he's desperate. Come on, I 635 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,599 mean he's at like eighty percent of all Challenge manias now. He just knows 636 00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:51,599 wherever they go, it's just always there. He is good. Brad's awesome. 637 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,800 He should be there, Chris, and the chairman says, so, 638 00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:00,440 I watch an Amazon by purchasing the season, and they have extra cup which 639 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:05,280 equates to the elimination loser being asked a few more questions that don't air on 640 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,199 the show, And for this week's show, they fucked up and aired the 641 00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:15,079 interview in the Oh, no I do It's gonna be big t losing and 642 00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:22,039 Casey was the champ the worst, that's the worst. Have you guys been 643 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:27,880 spoiled this season? Zachy? Nothing? All right? I have an either. 644 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,880 I I so, I'm so uninterested in this season. I'm so frustrated 645 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,159 by it. I I thought about diving down the spoiled rabbit hole and just 646 00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:40,039 spoiling myself and going sick this season, but I haven't done it. Sick, 647 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,079 Yeah, just go sick, just go nuts. Do I want to 648 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,239 spoiler? Uh? No? I don't think I do. I think I'm 649 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,599 gonna I think I'm just gonna remain unspoiled. Thank you, though for the 650 00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:55,360 offer. We need the authentic reaction from Tim Win Ace Wins this season. 651 00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,719 Oh god, I'll never watch this show again because this not Corey that's all 652 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,199 about. Yeah, I guess yeah, between those two, yeah, I 653 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,800 do think I hate Corey more. Yes, exactly what we got for social 654 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:14,679 media? Well, first off, we had Leroy announcing that he has just 655 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:21,519 hit his seven months sober song. I had no idea that was happening. 656 00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:23,320 Okay, was he Did he have a problem or did he just is this 657 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:29,000 like a health thing or what's going on? I think I think I don't 658 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,599 know if he I don't think we ever saw that he had a major problem, 659 00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:35,239 like but I'm guessing he had some stuff going on where he wasn't happy 660 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:40,159 with how much he was drinking and acting the way. But he did release 661 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,159 a video on his Instagram. Yeah, people go watch it talking about it. 662 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:49,000 Well that's good because it's like, you know, you never know who's 663 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,760 addicted to whatever. But we've never seen behavior from Leroy that would indicate that, 664 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,199 Like we've seen him drink, but he doesn't like, he doesn't act 665 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,519 out. He's not like a lunatic when he's drunk like a lot of these 666 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:04,920 other lunatics. It's just like, I don't know, it doesn't it doesn't 667 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,719 mean anything, but it's that surprise. I just never would have pictured Leroy 668 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:13,199 as having a problem. Yep. Also, we talked about it, I 669 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,599 think on the pre show. But for anyone that missed that, uh, 670 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:21,199 this coming Monday, Uh, there is a mini season of Big Brother going 671 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,519 on called Big Brother Reindeer Games and everyone's favorite Meet Paul from the challenge will 672 00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:36,239 be on it. The goog He is no one's favorite. He's as long 673 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:43,280 as he's not asked to do multiplication, he might do well. And then 674 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,239 the other big thing I saw this interested on social media is a big Tea 675 00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:51,880 tweeted out a thank you to Casey because apparently, after gaining eliminated, Casey 676 00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:57,079 gave half of her ten thousand dollars the big tea I did. I didn't 677 00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:01,719 see the half, but I saw that Casey gave. Do we lose him? 678 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,559 We lost you for a second. Yep, you're back. Oh fuck, 679 00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:10,679 that was weird. I never was gone from my perspective, yep, 680 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,400 and then it all sounds like you're on your computer, Mic and all right, 681 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,199 let me see if I can fix it. You can't. It's fine, 682 00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:22,800 We're almost done, so yeah, and those are the big ones I 683 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,880 saw. And then I think we must have talked about it, you know, 684 00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:29,239 on the pre show, but uh, probably one of the questioning Uh 685 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,840 Marie back to have Challenge Mania in New York because she hates this new cast 686 00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:40,880 in season, but so hopefully none of our listeners had tickets to New York 687 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,800 hoping this year. I don't think she's the big draw. I don't. 688 00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:47,639 I can't imagine people being like, oh, if Marie is not gonna be 689 00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:54,960 there, I won't bother Yeah, yeah yeah. If you can still go 690 00:48:55,039 --> 00:49:00,719 meet Lane, then that's probably more exciting. Anyway, it's dreamy. Although 691 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:07,599 I do love Marie. When I met Marie she was great, so good 692 00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:10,639 times, good times, great times. Everybody ahead of her Challenge by dot 693 00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:15,599 Com joined the Facebook group. You can also join Patreon for this episode of 694 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,840 Challenges has been Brian, Big Uncle, Sweetea, Zachie Bananas, and as 695 00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:23,920 uh Josh said, I'm on another Big Brother season because I'm a big idiot.