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The following presentation is Del Marvis Studios
Production. Welcome back to truth seekers from

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around the world. It's time for
another edition of the Flat Earth Files.

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I hope this podcast finds you well. We have a great guest standing by

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and she'll be joining us in just
a moment. Before we kick things off,

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just a couple of quick housekeeping notes
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Earthfiles dot com. So here we
go. We're going to kick the show

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off right away. Out of the
shoot tonight. We have a great guest

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joining us from the great state of
Wyoming, where the winners are short and

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Bomby is our guest today, Christina. Christina, how are you. I'm

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good. I'm good. It's snow
on the ground a little bit right now,

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so yeah, balmy probably teens.
Yeah, it's that that part of

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the world you know, I was
in northern New York. It was cold,

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but I imagine your your winners run
pretty much through what mid April?

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Would you say? I would say
sometimes it's towards even May. We've had

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our major snow was just before May
first a few times. So yeah.

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Nice. Well, before we get
into you know, the flat earth conversation

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and all the rabbit holes, why
don't you take a few minutes and introduce

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yourself to the audience. Well,
okay, I'm Christina. I was born

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in Germany, naturalized in California.
Most of my childhood I lived in the

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Cascades in Graham's Pass, Oregon,
and most of my adulthood here in Wyoming.

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I was in the Army for six
and a half years as a medical

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supply specialist. Lived in Germany with
that and Huntsville, Alabama, and NASA

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was there. I had a friend
actually that worked for NASA, and I

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had a friend that worked as an
engineer and Boeing, and yeah, I

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kind of got the NASA bug back
back then. When I was in the

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Army, I got to go to
Desert Shield, Desert Storm, and that

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was an interesting small part of my
life and nothing anything that other soldiers went

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through, you know, with Iraq
and the golf Ward or anything like that.

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But sitting listening to AFN, listening
to see when they were going to

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get Saddam Hussein, and they never
did, And I had kind of a

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a gut feeling about that, and
I knew something was wrong because they didn't

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get them. You know, I
don't know if anybody else would you know,

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think about that, but well,
you know a lot of veterans are

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starting to kind of think the way
we are right. I remember, I

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was in the National Guards at the
time. I didn't go active till the

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mid nineties. I did five years
in the Guards and then when active for

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twenty. But we went to Fort
Dix to train, and I remember like

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one of the guys from the Iraq
envoy and one of the guys from the

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US envoy. They would meet and
we were just hoping that they could come

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to agreement and there wouldn't be war. And every time they came out,

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there was no agreement reached. And
yeah, Desert Storm was really weird.

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We ended up getting there I think
two days before it, maybe like January

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the fifteenth of nineteen ninety one.
My dad actually left two weeks prior on

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Christmas Day, which that's what the
army does. They're all about inconveniencing you

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the most that they can, right, I'm sure you know that really well.

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But my dad was at KKMC.
I was at Daharan by Kobar,

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the air base, and we were
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so we were charge of security maintenance. I mean, it was just you

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name it. We were like the
Joe Plumber of Kobar Towers. We did

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do a little traveling. I actually
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which was how many people get to
say they met their dad in combat

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somewhere. Well, I used combat
loosely because like for us, the most

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part was scud alert and sirens and
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You'd be in MOP four for hour, sweating, you know, wearing the

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chemical suits. It was really different. But you're right, after all that

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effort to just stop and say,
ah, we'll get them next time,

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right, none of it made sense. And as quickly as we were rolling

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them up too, it was effortless. Well. I was stationed in KKAMC

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also for with a thirty second med
song, so in a wati which I

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don't understand why we were like,
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It didn't make sense to me.
It did flood a couple times in the

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tent and then the big sands orbs
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I think my uh, my journey
or as one of my friends would say,

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my desert experience or my wilderness experience
got me closer to God. During

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that time, I was afraid of
the dark a lot, and that just

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trusting a God, starting to trust
in him back then, and my journey

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from then to now just amazing things. Amazing things in my life. I

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you know, bumped and scraped along
all along the way. You know,

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I have two divorces. I didn't
think I was worthy of God's love through

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a lot of that, but a
lot of believers in my path helped me

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to understand, you know, just
amazing. And when I sent you my

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email, I was thinking about how
just knowing about flat Earth and you know,

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I know it's not like a pancake
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you know that picture of just it's
not Yeah, and I just amazing how

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God loved us so much, you
know, he gave us his only begotten

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son, you know, Jesus Christ, you know, which is amazing and

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we need to honor Jesus Christ for
that and thank God for that amazing gift.

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But just knowing that God made this
earth, you know, it's unlimited

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resources. It's I was approached by
the company called Tallgrass and and they wanted

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to tap into my land. I
have a few acres and they wanted to

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do our carbon What is it carbon
dioxide or what is it carbon emissions?

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Or are they pumping into the ground? And I'm like no. I sent

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an email. I said, you
know, we we live on plant life.

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We give plant life carbon. We
we are carbon beings. Uh,

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it's just trying to steal that away
from us and put it in the ground.

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It's just absurd to me. So
yeah, it's like, not a

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scathing email, but just what are
you dumb? That's good and it's important

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that we stand up for our beliefs. Uh. You know, so many

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times we feel overwhelmed and sometimes we
can take the mentality of oh what difference

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will it make? Well if enough
people, you know, do something like

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that, that, people, you
know, they will back down here in

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our community, in our county.
They were trying to raise our property taxes

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through the roof, and everybody,
I mean everybody was on them. And

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just today this afternoon we got the
letter they're barely raising them. So you

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know, there is power in numbers, there really is. And just look

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at what's going on in the world
now with all the craziness that the what

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do they say, the squeaky wheel
gets the oil and the evil people are

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the ones that are making all the
noise. Now, that's why they kind

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of have an upper hand. That's
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Going back to Saudi Arabia. Excuse
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You know a lot of people I
don't remember if it was they to

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keep the dust down. They were
spraying either diesel or kerosene. I can't

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remember which one it was because my
dad actually testified August fourteenth, nineteen ninety

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five at the Desert Storm the little
Presidential UH Committee for Desert Storm Syndrome.

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Do you remember that them spring like
kerosene or diesel to keep the dust down

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this audience, I don't remember.
But you know, as a woman,

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I we didn't get to go see
like out outside or anything. We were

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kind of stuck on our on our
on the compound there. Yeah, yeah,

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and we couldn't drive or anything,
so there was I was limited on

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what I saw. I do remember
they gave us only two bullets really,

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you know, yeah, for war, and I'm like, uh, what,

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so I'm gonna shoot in Iraqi and
then myself. I guess that's how

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it's going to roll, you know. Or you could be like the who

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was the guy who shot Kennedy?
I'm having a brain cramp here, Lee

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Harvey Oswald. You know, one
bullet hits three people? Can you just

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maybe there were magic bullets and you
just didn't know it well, you know,

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I yeah, I didn't get I
when I was in the military,

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I my first duty station was Germany
and I went, you know, I

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grew up there. I got to
see my grandparents, I got to see

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some family. But when I was
there for four years, it they just

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didn't make sense. In the military, I didn't. I worked for a

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medical unit. I actually worked for
the blood Bink and launched all and there

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was a lot of decisions that they
made. And I was just an E

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two, you know, well,
yeah, E two, and then I

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became an E three and and I
would question even the commander and my first

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sergeant, and I know, you
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in subordination. But it was like
that, oh yeah, Off was a

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sergeant first class. He embarrassed me
in front of the unit with because I

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gained weight and stuff like that.
So and not not to rehash that,

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you know, I've forgiven all those
people, but just the the way things

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were run. And now I look
back at it, and I'm like,

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it just wasn't just like they're at
uh for the unit. Uh you know,

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medical supply, I don't. I
just didn't get a lot of things.

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And uh, I think my questioning
began even before I wasn't even in

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the army. My childhood was not
the greatest. I was abused at ford

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Ord by my stepdad's uncle, and
so my my life I was running the

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little streets of ford Or at four
years old, knocking on neighbors doors.

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I wouldn't want to stay in my
house. And so the military just from

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the get go never really treated me
right. You know, my parents.

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You know, I felt betrayed,
and that's where my trust in God was.

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It was hard for a long time
to even I believed in him.

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But I never really trusted him,
and I didn't trust people in the military,

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and I might have been like a
rebel and close to end subordination,

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but you know, it's like,
hey, why are we doing this?

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What's going on? And you know, they went't answer those questions, so

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it's just yeah. And then speaking
the military and childhood, the vaccinations,

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I'm going to tell you, I
know I suffered from the vaccination. And

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I don't know if I I never
had children, so I don't know if

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that's part of that. But when
I was a kid, I was about

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seven years old and we went back
overseas with my dad, my stepdad,

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because he was in the army.
And I remember I hurt so bad,

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and my mother thought it was just
in my head. She's like, you

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know, you're just making too much
of it. And I had the bus

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driver we lived in Oregon, out
in the country, and had the bus

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driver drive like it was about four
or five miles away from the bus stop,

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and he kind of got caught in
the driveway and he was backing up

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and backing up and backing up,
and my mother was so embarrassed, and

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you know, it's like the bus
driver stuck, and yeah, it was

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just but the vaccinations. When I
was in the arm me, I ended

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up in the hospital. Wow.
Just yeah, So with the COVID stuff,

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I did not do that. And
then I got in trouble with my

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my bosses because I wouldn't wear the
mask. So wow, you were really

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Uh did your what did your coworkers
think? Were they like, well,

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look at her go? Or were
they like, oh, my gosh,

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you're going to kill us. No, well they were kind of like,

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yeah, look at her go.
But they wore the mask. You know.

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Even my my Bible Felt Home Fellowship
believers put on the mask and some

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of them even took the backs.
And I'm like, you know, I

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h but I prayed and I know
that in the word Jesus Christ said that

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you know, no poison will harm
you. You know, you can take

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up snakes. And I'm not a
snake charmer, but you know, I'm

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not like, I'm not going to
go out and find a rattlesnake on my

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property. But but I do believe
God's word and I just pray that they're

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okay. I've seen on video,
you know, on YouTube, and I

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just recently went to seminar well,
a conference with my boyfriend and a couple

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of women said how much those affected
them, you know, the shots,

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but they had to take them because
they were in the medical field. And

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I just looked at him like,
oh wow, you know, just yeah

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me. I stood up in front
of my CEO. I said, I'm

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not going to wear the mask.
And they wanted medical information of your vaccination

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and I'm like, I'm not doing
that. And so she looks at me

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like I'm disrespecting her, but I'm
like, you know, I'm standing up

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for what I believe in. And
then she stated that we have to lose

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our liberties to protect the population.
I'm like, what, that's absurd.

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You know, that's when you fire
back with the little Benjamin Franklin quote that

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that you know, and this is
what frustrates me. Everybody thinks that,

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you know, everybody's going to go
to the voting machines this November and everything's

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going to be just perfect, back
back to nineteen fifties, Wally Wally and

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Beaver Cleaver, and you know,
they still haven't even fixed the problem from

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four years ago, which just amazes
me. And I know that the people

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on the right aren't good hearted people. The people who believe that like the

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voting is going to fix everything,
and that is once again, you're treating

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the symptoms. You're not getting to
the root of the problem. And people

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need to stop everything they're doing and
understand how far how far into the do

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do the proverbial dodo that we are
really in And COVID was such a disgrace

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to our country. How closing churches
was okay, how Amazon and Walmart staying

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open was okay, but the mom
and pop stores had to close things like

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you know, putting on masks and
everything. Just the whole thing was a

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giant psychological, psychological warfare operation.
And again we just keep well, it'll

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never happen again. You just wait
till November. And it's always at some

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point you need to put your foot
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convictions. And it's really refreshing to
hear everything that you did, because obviously

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I'm assuming at some point where they
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lose your job if you didn't comply. Well, they actually put me on

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a night shift, so I went
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at it because you know, they
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shift when I was still there during
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like, and put me in the
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just pretty much because I needed the
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maybe they're just trying to help me. But I'm also I fought with my

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boss, you know. She she
had me tell the people, you need

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to wear the mask. And this
was I quit the job for two months,

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and it's kind of a weird deal. But before I quit, and

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she's like, you know, tell
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I'm like, I'm not going to
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we first started with all this covid
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I'm going to work. I don't
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come to work, then you know
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I busted my butt to keep stuff
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are you all wearing the mask?
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well, there's somebody that was exposed
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well, well, you know,
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department didn't gets sick, and I
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know, then people started started getting
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all over their mouth and they're breathing
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a couple of women that were they're
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like, you know, this is
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lost a believer, a brother in
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I think it was twenty one.
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called me at work and they said, well, he's gone, and they

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tried to tell me what happened a
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hospital. And I think it was
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for remdives of beer and you know, innovation in the respiratory. You know,

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that they killed him. And and
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me, she was so fearful of
getting COVID. And you know that's that's

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the lie that the devil has given
us, you know, from the beginning,

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and with Adam and E you know
you shall live. You know,

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how did he say that he lied
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to them. You know, you
shall surely not die, right, So

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people are so fearful of dying.
Look at these elites, what they you

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know, what they call the elites. Those people are afraid of dying.

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the stuff that's going on, and
and look at that what's his name,

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schap schwab or Yeah, you know
you'll eat bugs, yeah, and you'll

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be happy, you know. Yeah, Well your freaking Nazi mfort. You

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know, I get so mad.
And and I've I've been trying not to

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watch a lot of videos. I've
actually listened to your podcast, like Binge

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Binge listened to your podcast. Last
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used to watch and we know that
LT Guy and I loved watching those just

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to catch up with what's going on. Sure, but there's a little bit

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of hopium, you know that they
that he gives and other people, and

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I'm you're right, Trump is not
the answer. God is the answers.

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Not He's not gonna save us,
and nobody's gonna save us. God,

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Jesus Christ saved us. And our
hope is Christ's return, you know,

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and the hope of being with God. I'm not saying that, you know,

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I'm not a you know, I
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I believe that. But I also
know that we need to live,

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and we need to live because God
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to live in health and prosper you
know, that's in John first. I

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think first John. So you know, I golm onto the promises of God

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and I live life. You know, I work, I unfortunately have to

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pay taxes and all the other stuff. But I'm gonna, you know,

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stand up for what I believe in, and I'm not going to back down,

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especially on God's word. I did
join a Convention of States group a

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volunteer, so I mean, I
don't know how good that's going to happen.

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Right now, I'm kind of turned
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lot of email saying please send us
money. Yes, I went to one

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of those meetings too, and I
get text all the time, and I

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think, again, it's it's good
hearted people who mean well. But I

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don't think it's going to be It
won't be successful. They won't you know,

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the people at the top won't allow
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of the day. But again,
great people. Yeah, and I I've

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listened to your podcasts on you know, just voting. I kind of am

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turned off of that. I don't
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think we pray, you know,
you have to pray, and I believe

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that prayer, prayer does change things. And you know, in your local

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communities, you know, stand up, you know, stand up, go

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to the you know, we just
had our legislation going on at the at

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the state capitol. And if you
have something that you need to, you

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know, change, go talk to
your representatives. That's the only way that

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we can change things. And you
know all this, you know, the

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bug thing, and you know,
I I'm not gonna lay down for these

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people. I'm amazed at how Germany
and in China and all these countries laid

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down, you know. They they
joined, they they stepped on to the

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trains, you know. And I
I don't know if all of that's true,

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but my family is from there,
so we get the understanding with the

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term though. Absolutely they got on
the train, right. Yeah. And

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you're where at the point now you
you either you know, live on your

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feet or down on your knees.
And I'm just at the point now.

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I don't want anything to do,
you know, with the with the federal

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government. I'm very much involved with
state and local. I send an email

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to my governor about every other week. The one I and I think every

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one I send is a little more. I don't want to use the term

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aggressive because I don't want to come
off like I'm trying to be a tough

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guy. But the one I sent
yesterday was very much blunt and to the

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point. Because I can tolerate things
when it comes to adults, but when

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it comes to children, I get
very upset, very upset, and sometimes

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my fingers pound the keyboard and I
have to stop and reread things and say,

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well, maybe I shouldn't send the
governor of Delaware this, maybe I

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should adjust it to this. But
you know this transagenda that we have a

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hospital here in Wilmington, Delaware that
will give the children the puberty puberty blockers

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at ten and they'll start the surgeries
at twelve. And I'm in a state

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that condones that. And I am
a very hard, very firm believer in

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if you allow evil to take place, then I don't like to say you're

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just as guilty because you're not the
person actually doing it, But you know,

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kind of what do you call it
when you help someone? Like an

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accomplice? Almost? Right? So
I let my leaders, my two senators,

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my reps, and my governor know
all the time how I feel about

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what's going on here, because morally, right, you have to have morals.

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And I think that's the one thing
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is we don't the compass you know
in the movies where the compass just is

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spinning all over the place. That
that's like our country right now. We

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have no morals and we're flying by
the seat of our pants, and everybody

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is making decisions based on what they
think, not what is you know,

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written in a book that is thousands
and thousands of year old. You know,

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the Bible obviously, right, what
are your thoughts on that? Well?

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I agree with that, and I
think that you know this, this

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world is evil. I've I've been
reading God's word again over, you know,

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from Genesis, because you know,
with the whole it blew my mind.

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But also I figured that it was
it was less like knowing, so

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so like from the beginning and when
I I don't know where I heard it

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might have been and we know with
Dave flat Earth day and just blew my

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mind about flatter Earth. And but
before that was what is his name?

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The on the Way to the Moon. Yes, watching his videos and listening

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to him and being interviewed, and
I like, and it just clicked with

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the Tower of Babble and how God
doesn't want us to go any further,

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you know he stopped that, and
and then it clicked with with latter Earth.

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It was like you know, your
ham radio operator check this, like

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how does the signal? And I
learned you know about how the signal goes

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off the trop is topes sphere,
Trump, It's it's Thursday. I worked

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hard today. But you know,
bouncing off the stratosphere and all that and

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the clouds, and so how does
that happen when you're Earth and you're communicating

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like say Australia, you know,
how do you communicate all the way or

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even South America? You know you're
and then it's like, wait a minute,

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those signals can't just bounce off all
the way down on the other side

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of the Earth. That doesn't you
can't. It doesn't work that way.

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So just being a hammer radio operator
on that and then communicating to always wanted

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to communicate to the astronauts with my
radio. And I heard you on a

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podcast on that and I'm like,
yeah, that doesn't It just doesn't make

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sense. And then recently I watched
one of the elon Musk's rockets and how

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how it like broke apart and then
that that big lights or whatever it was

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just kind of it hit the firmament, and I'm like, you know what

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they're doing, And I know they're
probably down in or down there, I

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go, but they're at an Antarctica, the of the military and the elites,

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and they're trying to bust through the
firmament and they know, they know

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the secret, they know what's going
on, and they're trying to and I

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think and just I just read Revelation
again and I think that's going to be

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the cause for the falling stars,
for the moon turning, you know,

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blood red and all the things.
It's going to hit the fan like nobody's

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business but my hope. And it's
in Thessalonians that when Jesus Christ comes to

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gather us the dead in Christ first
and the alive, the ones that are

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alive in Christ, He's going to
gather us before all of that hits the

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fan, because God promised that we
would not suffer the wrath, and that's

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in the word of God. So
so I have that hope. Not that

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I want to leave the sarf like
ha ha, you know, but I

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want people to be saved, and
my heart is for and I'm trying just

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you know, speak the word.
Fortunately, my boyfriend believes in God.

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He believes in the same thing on
that that sense. So anyway, you

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know, it's interesting you mentioned Tesla. I think just yesterday somebody sent me

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an email and I apologize, I
don't have it in front of me the

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person's name. But if you look
at the logo for Tesla, it almost

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looks like a hammer or something trying
to break through the firmament. So you

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have like the firmament and then the
tea kind of going up into it.

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Oh yeah, my boyfriend thinks it
looks like an ied Oh geez, seeing

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the military too. No, he
I always tend to well, my first

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husband was military, but my second
husband was not. And my boyfriend right

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now isn't so cool? Very good? Yeah, yeah, you mentioned that.

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Yeah, the flat earth is recent. You've only been a flat earther

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for say four or five months,
right, Yeah, And you mentioned your

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long trip to Long Beach. Do
you want to talk about that. Yeah,

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was a business trip with my boss, and I'm sitting in kind of

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on where I love the window seat. I like looking out, and usually

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flights by take or during the dark, so I don't get to see like

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the horizon exactly or by chance,
I don't get to sit by the window.

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So this time it was during the
day and I'm taking copious pictures and

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I'm like, yeah, you know
what, You're right, it's not a

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curve, it's not. And I'm
just amazed, like how people cannot see

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that, Like you're up thirty thousand
feet and you know, and also the

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plane didn't nose down every few miles, it didn't, you know, how

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you can feel that when they're descending. They didn't do that. So they're

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flying straight from Dunbar to Long Beach, California. So where's the curve?

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Where's that accommodation as it were.
Do you think they're starting to get a

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little bit nervous because just a couple
of weeks ago they were doing the Moon

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landing with this American company, which
by the way, there was no video.

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In nineteen sixty nine, they were
talking to the president, they had

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it on TV for everybody in the
world to watch. And in twenty twenty

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four they're just told, hey,
we landed on the Moon. Just take

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our word for it. And then
of course the solar flare nonsense. Do

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you think they're a little concerned,
because I do believe that, even just

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within the last four years, the
stigmatism of flat Earth has led up a

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little bit. What are your thoughts. I'm not fearful about how they might

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come after us, you know,
as because people are. I mean,

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I'm amazed at the app and seeing
how many people are actually believing it,

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and I don't know, I think
that they might be afraid. I worked

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for dish network EchoStar, and I
send up the satellites. Now that I

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look at it, I'm like,
well, you know, yeah, I

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don't know the truth is coming out, but they might look. Shoot,

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00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:59.400
they have what seventy five million people
in the that were like a threat,

410
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:04.559
were you know, like the Trump
supporters. And I'm not a Trump supporter.

411
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:08.920
I used to be, but you
know, I think they'll just try

412
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:17.679
to fact check us and try to
you know, debunk us. But we

413
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:23.920
know the truth. And I think
the more of us that talk about it

414
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:29.119
and try to get you know,
And I said in my email, it's

415
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:34.960
harder. I think it's hard on
both fronts of convincing people about God and

416
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:42.119
Jesus Christ. I think it's also
hard to convince people flatter. And I'm

417
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.960
amazed that, you know, I
wasn't. This is when I was still

418
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:51.280
listening to Bert Chabrell and his interviews
and all. And this was a couple

419
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:53.239
of years ago, and I'm in
the back of the car. We're going

420
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:59.440
to home fellowship. I was writing
with some believers and we you know,

421
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:07.000
have like what they call believers meeting, and it's Sunday morning or sometimes it

422
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.719
was a Friday or whenever you can, Wednesday night. But I was riding

423
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.199
in the back and I said,
you know what, I don't think or

424
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:20.079
how did I say? I said, some people think that the moon landing

425
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:24.360
didn't happen. And my sister in
cry. She turns around, She's like,

426
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:30.760
what, no way, you know, just like you know, trying

427
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:36.800
to convince even believers. And I
want to tell them, look what you

428
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:39.119
know, tower of babble, what
do you think about that? God's the

429
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:46.559
same then as he is today?
All great points and something I kind of

430
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:51.599
kid about sometimes. I always say, how cool would it be to get

431
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:54.920
NASA shut down and you know,
force the government to give us this great

432
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:59.920
big repayment program, you know for
everything that was based on a lot.

433
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.639
At the same time, sometimes I
get pretty upset about it because I know

434
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:08.239
that the money that comes from our
blood, sweat and tears goes to an

435
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:12.280
organization that is trying to overthrow God. What do you think about it?

436
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:16.480
That way? It's a little unnerving, it is, But you know,

437
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:22.239
I think that and I think we
should speak up. I mean, I

438
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:27.320
like that guy that spoke up in
one of the council meetings down in Florida.

439
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:31.280
Now, yeah, and just you
know, and I think more of

440
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:35.679
us have to do that. But
I also think that, you know,

441
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:42.440
give them to Caesar. What is
Caesar's you know, God is my sufficiency,

442
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:46.400
not the government. That's right.
Our money is going to Pelosi's ice

443
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:51.719
cream and is her freezer, you
know, or it's going to NASA,

444
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:57.840
it's going you know, it's going
to the freaking the large Ukraine, yeah,

445
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.840
exactly, or to the people that
are coming over the border. Two

446
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.840
thousand dollars a month, you know, And and that's vets. You know,

447
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:08.960
I'm healthy, and like I said, God is my sufficiency. But

448
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:16.239
they're my my father, my my
stuff. I didn't know my biological father,

449
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:21.440
but my stepfather. You know,
he was an alcoholic and they didn't

450
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.000
help him. You know, he
had an agent orange poisoning, and they

451
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:29.440
didn't help him. It took me
a long time ago to VA. I

452
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:36.000
was fifty two before I went to
the VA. So because I didn't trust

453
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:42.880
them, I didn't trust any of
those I still known't So just so it's

454
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:47.119
rough. And but like I said, God is my sufficiency, and I'm

455
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:53.440
not gonna I can't worry about you
know, I can speak up about it.

456
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:58.559
But you know, they're gonna take
steal our money. They're gonna.

457
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:04.000
They are evil people. They're evil
and the double is their father's right.

458
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.800
Well, you have your health,
then you have your faith. Everything else

459
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:12.000
is cake and ice cream. Right
there, you go. It's I mean,

460
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:16.039
that's as long as you have that. The second bullet, and I'm

461
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.840
very humbled by this. You said
would be the Flat Earth Files podcast.

462
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:24.079
How did you find my podcast?
Our podcast? This is our podcast?

463
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:29.000
Well, I think it was through
and we know, I think it was,

464
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:34.280
but I don't remember. And then, unfortunately, my boyfriend pays for

465
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:38.559
my Spotify, so I've been enjoying
a lot of you know, like blues

466
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:45.239
and jazz music and you know,
and then I just I think I looked

467
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:53.239
it up and put flat Earth because
I was wanting to know. And then

468
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:59.519
that first, that first podcast that
you had, I listened to that and

469
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:07.079
made great points. And then I
like the way you talk to normal not

470
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:13.199
normal you know, I'm maybe not
normal, but you know, but people

471
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.199
that you know off the streets,
you know, people that are interested in

472
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:22.559
have the sight. Yes, and
that's where you know, even with God

473
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:28.880
and hanging out with believers, you
know, it's like a taste of heaven.

474
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:32.119
It's like a taste of what will
be when we get to heaven and

475
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:39.199
we'll party and have fun and that
sort of thing. But being able to

476
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:44.199
talk about it, and this is
the first time I've been able to talk

477
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:50.360
about it openly and you know,
not get the look I try to tell

478
00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:54.840
my mom. I went down the
Colorado Springs. They my mother and my

479
00:42:54.920 --> 00:43:00.599
sister and brother lived down there,
and my brother has a stage four cancer

480
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:07.559
cancer. Yeah, and they said, get your affairs ready. Pardon what's

481
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:09.840
his first name? Can I ask
you for his first name? Bill?

482
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:15.079
I'm going to pray for him.
I appreciate that we've been praying. Put

483
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:22.159
him on a prayer list. My
brothers and sisters in Christ are praying for

484
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:28.800
him. But I went down there
and I just kind of mentioned it to

485
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:34.480
my mother about you know, yeah, I you know, I think the

486
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.960
Earth is flat, and she just
kind of fluffed it off. So,

487
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:43.880
but you know, we we talked
a little bit about politics and everything,

488
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:50.960
and she's a Trump supporter. So, but my brother's on the he's kind

489
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:53.719
of like, I think he now
believes in God, but I think he's

490
00:43:55.440 --> 00:44:04.000
he's pragmatic over everything. And when
I saw him a couple of weekends ago,

491
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:09.639
broke my heart because he, uh, he's pretty much wasted away and

492
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:16.159
he can't hardly get up, you
know, and just picturing him as a

493
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:22.239
little two year old in his little
pj's and then seeing him, you know,

494
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:28.199
he's like six' four and you
know, yeah, it's heartbreaking.

495
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:32.840
So but there's always hope. There's
always hope, absolutely, And we're gonna

496
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:36.800
prayer. We're going to pray for
Bill and our family has a prayer list

497
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:40.119
and it's been very powerful. So
we'll include Bill and our prayers. And

498
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:45.159
Colorado Springs is a special place in
my heart as well. What part of

499
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:46.719
the Springs are then the north side, south side, the old side on

500
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:52.760
the west. Well, they used
to live by the airport at oh when

501
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:57.440
they first started living in color Yeah, and then they moved. Oh now

502
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:01.480
I can't. It starts with p. I always forget the name. It's

503
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:07.400
in the middle. Sure, it's
town, gotcha. It's a beautiful town,

504
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:09.199
it really is. And then when
do you go there, do you

505
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:13.679
notice how much brighter the sun is
or is it just me in the morning.

506
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.559
It's beautiful and garden of the gods, you know, like during May

507
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:23.360
and June, it's just so gorgeous. I actually went to college at Colorado

508
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:29.599
Tech. Oh okay, cool,
yeah, yeah, that whole go ahead,

509
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:34.280
I'm sorry, and learned about NASA
and all the you know, the

510
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:40.920
firmament and then also what is the
this the protective the Van Allen be in

511
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:46.760
college, but yet they sent astronauts. They didn't even know they had the

512
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:51.079
technology to protect themselves at the time, but somehow they made it and went

513
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:52.920
on to live. Well, heck, buzz Aldron is still alive, right,

514
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:59.199
is he really? I think he's
in his mid nineties, but yeah,

515
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.199
he's still alive. Well, yeah, I think there's four left.

516
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:07.239
We did who walked them up?
One left? Yeah? Four? Well,

517
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:13.280
we did have a astronaut, guest
astronaut that came to that to the

518
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.960
school when I was still there,
and we got to talk to him.

519
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:20.159
Yeah, and I said, did
you see anything out there? You know,

520
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.039
what did you see? Because I
was interested in any kind of you

521
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:29.000
know. He didn't answer that question. He didn't, you know. Yeah,

522
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:32.159
yeah, I imagine they got a
tread carefully because if they answered details,

523
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:37.880
they'd have to remember them, right. And that's that always reminds me

524
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.960
of when the Apollo eleven guys came
back. I think one guy saw stars

525
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:44.679
and the other one was like,
I don't remember seeing any stars. And

526
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:47.960
it's just like really like I would
remember every detail. If I was the

527
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:52.960
first guy on the moon, I
would stand there and count the stars and

528
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:57.039
I would come home and there would
be celebrations and I'd be in every commercial.

529
00:46:57.480 --> 00:46:59.960
I want to be like George.
I'd have my own air hobs.

530
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:06.000
Is these sneakers and it's just not
what happened. Yeah, they were so

531
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:14.119
vehement, vehement about with Brett,
you know, like telling him, you

532
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:19.920
know, you're full of just really
like just say, you know, swear

533
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:24.079
on the Bible tallest, tell us
the truth. But they were so vehement,

534
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:29.599
you know, and it's like why
would you be Yeah, I would

535
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:32.960
be celebrating it, like yeah,
we've seen things and we I mean,

536
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:38.239
you look at the people that went
on the mountain. What is it the

537
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:50.199
shoot man, I'm brain parts here
the tallest mountain in the world. Yeah,

538
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.159
and they're and they're celebrating that like
yeah, we made it, yay.

539
00:47:54.440 --> 00:48:00.519
But you know, yeah, it's
it's so telling that they didn't go.

540
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:04.760
They didn't go and yeah, but
it was a buzz Aldron that said

541
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:07.360
we didn't go to that little girl, that's right. Yeah, we didn't.

542
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:12.519
Yeah, it didn't happen that way, that's what. Yeah. Yeah,

543
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:15.760
it's just amazing. And people don't
see it. They don't see this,

544
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:21.440
and I don't know why. Well, they're blinded. The double has

545
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:27.239
blinded them. Yeah, And you
know, the the telling thing for me

546
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:31.280
was and I'll never forget. And
this should be on everybody's radar now since

547
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:36.760
we're talking about Bart when he was
kicked out of the guy's house so quickly

548
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:38.800
that he left the microphone on the
guy and he's like, you want me

549
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:44.079
to call them the CIA and have
them taken out. I mean, how

550
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:45.960
much more do you need? I
mean, just that alone. When I

551
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:50.360
heard that for the first time,
I was my mind was blown. And

552
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:55.000
then when you see how they really
took pictures of the Earth from their window

553
00:48:55.079 --> 00:49:00.320
when they were supposedly, you know, basically making soles in low atmosphere,

554
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:06.440
just all of it is nonsense.
And but again it speaks volumes of how

555
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:08.119
much effort they put into the globe, because when you mentioned it, you

556
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:12.400
just get scoffed at by ninety five
percent of the people you present it to.

557
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:21.440
Yeah, definitely yeah, even by
my boyfriends. You know, it's

558
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:27.440
like, you know, it's okay
though, because I know the truth,

559
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.920
and i'll you know, i'll try
to I'm not going to be in their

560
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:37.840
face with it. When when I
refused the mask and I went to Bible

561
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:45.360
Bible Fellowship and they didn't request me
to wear a mask, and they never

562
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.159
wore a mask, and it's in
their home, you know, so that's

563
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:54.480
fine. But like when we went
to a restaurant, a bunch of us,

564
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:59.719
and I didn't wear the mask,
but they started donning their mask on

565
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.599
and they we walked to the table. I didn't put on a mask and

566
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:08.599
we walked to the table, and
I'm looking around the restaurant like people are

567
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:13.280
not wearing the mask at the table, but you have to wear the mask

568
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:16.800
coming into the restaurant. And I'm
like, no, I'm not doing this.

569
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:22.199
And the guys like, you know, the waiter and I'm not gonna

570
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.599
make a scene. Sure, but
I said, you guys, enjoy your

571
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:30.880
lunch. I'm going to go.
You know, I'm just going to go,

572
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:32.840
and you know, because I didn't
want to, like, you know,

573
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:37.360
I'm not that cold hearted or anything, but you know, I'm like

574
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:42.760
I'm going to stand I'm not gonna
you know, and they just stood there

575
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.559
like, oh okay, instead of
saying, well, yeah, let's just

576
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:51.400
take off the mask and enjoy lunch, you know, let's you know,

577
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:58.239
it just doesn't make sense to me
how even believers, you know, I

578
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:07.920
I don't know. Yeah, yeah, And there's there's some irreversible damage that

579
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:12.960
that no doubt the young folks had
hearing, you know, while mom and

580
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:15.840
dad had the TV on, hearing
about death death death death death twenty four

581
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:21.159
seven, three sixty five for a
year and being eight nine, ten years

582
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.519
old and having to wear a mask
because you might catch something and die.

583
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:29.000
I mean, imagine, uh now, I know children are resilient, but

584
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:31.519
at the same time, what kind
of long term effect is that going to

585
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:36.039
have on children mentally? Right?
The big question we always seem to talk

586
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:40.159
about on this program and my other
podcast is what are the long term effects

587
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:45.559
going to be on the Jabba Dabado? But what are the long term effects

588
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:51.639
going to be psychologically on these children? I think I think it would be

589
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:59.679
long. It would take God to
heal them, you know them, because

590
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:04.440
I I you know, as a
little kid and watching scary movies even and

591
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:09.679
speaking of that, I uh,
when I was a little kid and you

592
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:15.400
know, being sexually abused at four
years old and run in the streets.

593
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:25.559
We went to Germany and as seven
year old, I remember seeing and I

594
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:31.119
back then it was like ghosts,
but I know they were harassing spirits,

595
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:37.039
double spirits that were trying to take
me out. And there was one one

596
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:43.199
night, I'm in my bed and
a ruler was kind of floating in the

597
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:50.480
air and something ripped my blanket off
and my body and I'm like what,

598
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:53.639
you know, and I screamed for
my parents, mommy, daddy, you

599
00:52:53.719 --> 00:53:00.920
know. So, you know,
having all this stuff children, you know,

600
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:05.239
the last few years, you know, with death and I was so

601
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:14.000
fearful dying and being abducted and just
all the things. You know, I

602
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:17.960
can't imagine what these children are going
through now, and you know, my

603
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:23.880
heart breaks for them, and you
know, and then also with the what

604
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:30.119
you were talking about, you know, body hormone blockers and telling a child

605
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:34.960
that well, you're really a girl
or you're really a boy when they're not.

606
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:38.760
You know, it's a are you're
are you're a cat, or you're

607
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:45.599
a squirrel or you know, and
and these children. So you know,

608
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:52.599
and I don't know. I the
Double is evil, and people that follow

609
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:58.199
the double very evil. There's hope, you know, there's always hope for

610
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.559
people. I know that in God's
word there are people that are born of

611
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:10.519
incorruptible seed. Those are people that
believe God Romans ten ninety ten. I

612
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:15.480
also know that there are people that
are born of corruptible seed, and those

613
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:17.880
are the people that are evil,
and they're of the Double. They're double,

614
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:23.360
the Devil's children, and they're running
the you know, running a lot

615
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:30.800
of the world. But they don't. I am not afraid because you know,

616
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:36.000
when you speak Jesus Christ's name,
they will flee, you know.

617
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:44.559
So I'm not afraid anymore. I've
had potential tornadoes in the area and I'm

618
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:47.280
like, I just stand out on
my front step. I'm not I'm not

619
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:53.360
playing stupid. But when I know
that Jesus Christ could calm the storms,

620
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:58.400
and I have God in Christ in
me, yes, I can do the

621
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:04.239
same. And a few years ago, I'm out on my front porch watching

622
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:07.760
the storm coming in and the potential
tornadoes, and I said, I am

623
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:14.239
not afraid of you. You stop
in the name of Jesus Christ and just

624
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:20.519
this bowl of blue sky and all
the clouds were just around, you know,

625
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:24.639
surrounding the neighborhood, and we were
protected so amazing. Yeah, I'm

626
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:29.320
not afraid. I'm not afraid of
the government. I'm not afraid of anything.

627
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:35.800
I stand my ground because God,
I it's like that shad Rack Meshak

628
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:42.199
and the Benego, Daniel David,
you know those ruth Esther, you know,

629
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:45.320
all those people in the Word.
Even now, you know there are

630
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:49.760
believers that stand up and you're one
of them. You know, you stand

631
00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:54.320
up for what you believe in and
you speak the Word, so I you

632
00:55:54.400 --> 00:56:00.800
know, yeah, you got to
do that. So I don't be afraid.

633
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:04.400
I think it's contagious too. And
I think that's one of the reason

634
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:08.719
that I thought this format, how
it kind of transpired, could be super

635
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:13.880
helpful because I've seen so many people
that have come on here and once they

636
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:17.199
speak publicly about things that it empowers
them. And we've had so many folks

637
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:22.239
start their own podcast and they're off
doing sub stacks and everything else. People

638
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:32.320
are really motivated and really such conviction
in the Word of Jesus Christ and just

639
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:36.159
wanting the truth to get out there. And to try to get people to

640
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:42.119
understand that they are being lied to
on levels they simply can't they can't comprehend.

641
00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:47.280
So and I think that was kind
of when I started my other podcast

642
00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:52.320
four or five years ago, however
long it's been now. I started with

643
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:57.079
baby steps, you know. I
started with the Bush family and you know,

644
00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:00.840
the smaller things, and gradually worked
away up to things like Oklahoma City,

645
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:05.039
the Gulf War, which, by
the way, when I saw that,

646
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:08.800
I think it was ninety two and
it was an ABC Nightly News or

647
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:15.519
twenty twenty one of those shows.
Because before the war started, the young

648
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:21.119
lady who was ended up being the
Kuwaiti's ambassador's daughter, Naiira al Sabah,

649
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:28.679
who sat b before this Congressional committee
in nineteen ninety and said she watched Iraqis

650
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:34.199
pool babies out of the incubators and
throw them on the ground and all that,

651
00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:38.599
you know, Poppy Bush got to
garner steam so people would support him

652
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:43.239
sending troops into Kuwait and Iraq,
and then, you know, ninety two

653
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:46.760
turns out it was all a giant
lie, and they spent ten million dollars

654
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:51.119
for these people to coach here how
to act in front of the Congress,

655
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:55.039
and she hadn't even been in Saudi
Arabia or Iraq since like nineteen eighty seven,

656
00:57:55.119 --> 00:58:00.199
and just that's the first time where
you really understand just how evil our

657
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:05.880
government is. And it'll lie to
it'll do whatever it takes to justify the

658
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.079
goal they want to get to.
They don't care as long as they get

659
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:12.480
to their goal, even if it
means knocking down two towers and killing three

660
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:17.760
thousand people while doing it. Oh
yeah, yeah, I agree. I

661
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:23.559
mean, just watching all of that, and I don't think Trump is innocent

662
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:30.239
by any degree. I think,
you know, when he took away the

663
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:36.079
bump stocks, you know, and
all the other executive orders that he's done.

664
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:40.719
He's not the savior. And I
just saw what was it on?

665
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:45.360
I just signed up for TikTok.
I wasn't going to do it, then

666
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:52.960
I did it. But seeing them
giving some kind of crown or something to

667
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:57.079
him from Israel, that's right,
And that whole thing with Israel, it's

668
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.719
like, yeah, this is not
this is not good. You know,

669
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:06.559
it's all a build up. It's
a build up to I don't know if

670
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:09.360
it's going to be the last days
in my lifetime, right, but I

671
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:14.119
know it's a build up, you
know, to I pray that I get

672
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:17.800
to see Jesus Christ in the clouds. You know, that would be awesome,

673
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:22.559
you know, but if I fall
asleep before then you know that's okay.

674
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:29.840
I'm not afraid, but yeah,
it's a build up to it.

675
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:35.599
And then trying to get through the
firmament. That just put the nail on

676
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:39.760
the coffin for me, because you
know, they are trying so hard to

677
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:47.480
figure it out and they can't.
You know, got God's overall and he's

678
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:51.960
not. He gives us free will, so he's not in control of us.

679
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:57.519
He's not controlling us as it as
like some people think that, you

680
00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:02.559
know, we're like puppets to God. Not But He's given us free will

681
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:08.840
to love him, and he's given
free will to the angels. If you

682
01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:13.840
you know, look what happened to
Lucifer. He took his free will and

683
01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:20.800
guess what he did. So all
these people that are trying to trying to

684
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:23.559
get to God, you know,
I don't know. I know, the

685
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:29.599
devil thinks that he can overcome,
but he's an angel, he's not God,

686
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:36.159
so you know, but I just
I feel in my gut I don't

687
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:40.239
know if it's God telling me.
God does tell me things, but you

688
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:47.559
know sometimes he you know, corrects
me and stuff. But you know,

689
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:53.480
I think this is and and I've
been reading the Book of Enochs slowly.

690
01:00:54.519 --> 01:01:00.679
I'm still kind of on the fence
with that. I'm not sure, you

691
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:06.559
know, I'm kind of thinking,
yeah, maybe you know, I know

692
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:14.119
he existed, I know that sure, So I don't know anyway, Yeah,

693
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:19.239
very interesting. Indeed, I did
want to ask you, have you

694
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:23.599
have Bible studies and things of that
nature. Do you have a local church

695
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:29.239
you go to or is it mostly
in house type of fellowship that you or

696
01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:31.320
is it it's a whole home.
Yeah, it's a home Bible fellowship.

697
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:37.679
I've been going since ninety nine.
Oh wow, they're Yeah, they're just

698
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:43.440
awesome. You know. It's it's
family, you know, it's not when

699
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:45.239
Jesus Christ said, you know,
who is my mother? Who is my

700
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:52.679
my brother? You know, he
said his disciples were not that he was

701
01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:54.760
trying to go against his mother,
you know, but they were you know,

702
01:01:54.920 --> 01:02:00.360
at the gate saying hey, where
are you what you're doing? And

703
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:02.000
they thought he was crazy. You
know, they thought, well, this

704
01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:07.440
this son of Joseph. You know, he's kind of a little loopy,

705
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:15.719
you know. And you know,
Jesus Christ spoke God's word, and I

706
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:19.360
believe. You know, I love
my family, my biological family. I

707
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:22.000
love them and I want them to
be saved. But the people that are

708
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:28.320
my brothers and sisters in Christ.
You know, Jesus Christ is the firstborn

709
01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:32.840
of many brethren. You know,
He's my big brother, and I honor

710
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:37.199
him. He's my Lord, my
savior. You know, God is my

711
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:40.760
father, and Jesus Christ spoke to
God, you know, a a father,

712
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:46.719
you know. The so such an
intimate deal. So the Home Bible

713
01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:52.760
Fellowship that I've been going to since
ninety nine, at first it was a

714
01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:55.800
little different. You know, I'm
like, because I come from a background

715
01:02:55.880 --> 01:03:00.280
that I don't have. I didn't
have a lot of love, you know,

716
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:07.320
in my childhood. And then just
the express love you know that gope

717
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:14.599
love, the love of God.
It's so awesome. And h they taught,

718
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:20.280
uh, you know, the principles
in the Word. They the gentleman

719
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:28.320
that taught a few years ago with
the apostle Paul. He would go through

720
01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:32.679
the whole all the epistles, you
know, through acts and then the epistles

721
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:42.159
and bring Paul Alive, the apostle
Paul. Just amazing, how this man,

722
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:45.599
you know, he killed Christians.
He was you know, he was

723
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.840
very he was a zealout for God. He loved God. But you know

724
01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.679
he killed Christians because he thought that
was the right thing to do. And

725
01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:59.480
then Jesus Christ, you know,
met him on the way to Damascus and

726
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:03.639
you know, hey, why are
you why are you persecuting me? You

727
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:11.000
know, and just amazing, amazing
accounts and God's word and every time you

728
01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:16.239
pick up the word, it's always
new fresh. God's Word is so awesome.

729
01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:24.360
So and that's my basis. And
we don't go to a church.

730
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:30.599
There's we give our abundant sharing or
giving and receiving, you know, we

731
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:39.960
give money and that goes to a
centralized place which they help the word move

732
01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:45.960
the word over the world, you
know. So yeah, it's it's just

733
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:51.159
amazing. And you know, I
don't always agree like with the COVID stuff

734
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:59.159
and the masks and you know,
but I think everybody, you know,

735
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:03.000
they do what they think that that's
best. I don't know, I listen

736
01:05:03.079 --> 01:05:08.079
to God not all the time,
very well. I have a German shepherd

737
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:13.159
that God told me, don't do
it, don't do it, and well,

738
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:15.079
yeah, I don't know if he's
seen. Yeah, he popped up

739
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:23.360
in the picture. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome, what a great story.

740
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:27.119
I have the utmost respect for missionaries
and that's awesome that your help funding

741
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:30.639
them because you know, spreading that
those guys are on the ground and sometimes

742
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:36.000
in dangerous places and just you know, doing the best to spread the word

743
01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:41.840
of God. And it's amazing.
And it's interesting as you were talking about

744
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:45.639
Damascus and these things, is it
interesting that so many of these cities that

745
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:49.840
are in the Bible are the ones
that are going through the most the roughest

746
01:05:49.880 --> 01:05:55.719
of times now, like Syria,
Aleppo to Damascus and all of the Of

747
01:05:55.800 --> 01:06:00.400
course, Babylon is in Iraq and
we're still thirty you know, we started

748
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:08.000
dropping bombs in Iraq January of nineteen
ninety one, and it is thirty three

749
01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:12.239
years later, coincidence, Jar thirty
three, we are still dropping bombs there.

750
01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:18.400
Yeah, that's crazy. There's something, yeah, something going on there.

751
01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:21.840
One hundred percent. Your fourth bullet, if to kind of go back

752
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:26.440
to the flat Earth, you mentioned
that it would be the photos of the

753
01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:31.840
trip you took and photos of the
moon a few years ago, and you

754
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:36.119
said, you're right, there's no
And that's what's something that again blows my

755
01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:41.079
mind because when we look at the
moon on you know, we walk out

756
01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:44.679
here on the deck, look at
the moon, it looks bright, super

757
01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:46.920
bright. It's a light. But
when they show us pictures, whether it's

758
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:51.039
a rover or whatever, it's just
dusty going all the way back to you

759
01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:57.760
know, Apollo eleven mission. Why
can't people discern that it's just one it's

760
01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:00.559
a super bright light. But when
they show us, it's just this dark

761
01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:08.639
rock with full of dust. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. And and

762
01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:13.480
I looked at those pictures again,
you know, after you told you know,

763
01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:16.519
you mentioned that with the dust,
and I'm like, yeah, there's

764
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:24.639
nothing. And then with the sun, I've been like when the sun sets

765
01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:29.599
or the sun rises, when I
can catch it, I'll come go out

766
01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:32.760
and I'll actually take my glasses off
and just look at it. And it's

767
01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:38.039
like a camera flash. You know, you eat, my retinas are not

768
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:47.639
burnt out, isn't Isn't that amazing? Yeah, let's see. Number five

769
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:53.159
was Flatter Dave's app And that is
a great app because I get folks whill

770
01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:57.840
ask individual questions and ninety nine times
out of one hundred those questions can be

771
01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:00.920
found right on his app And again
at the same time, with that being

772
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:03.840
said, we're not going to have
the answers for everything, and that's something

773
01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:06.800
I try to stress with people.
They say, you know, I'm pretty

774
01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:11.360
much on flat Earth, but you
know this or that, And I'm like,

775
01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:14.119
well, why does it automatically go
back to the globe because I can

776
01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:19.239
sit here and show you, you
know, one point after another saying well,

777
01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:23.880
it's either just a theory or we've
disproved it, whether it would be

778
01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:28.800
going over the you know, all
the ship disappears, well we can bring

779
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:31.760
it back with our p. Nine
p. Nine hundred the gravity theory,

780
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:36.640
which is you know, boot sea
density and other factors as well. But

781
01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:42.399
that's the thing that always gets me, well not always, but over the

782
01:08:42.520 --> 01:08:44.880
last few years, it's like,
well, if you can't explain every single

783
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:47.720
thing, then it must be a
ball. And again, show me how

784
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:51.840
a ball sticks to water and the
radio waves, like we were talking about

785
01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:57.079
earlier, how is it going curving
around the ball and hitting the folk I've

786
01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:00.199
hit the other week, I hit
South Korea, I don't think that would

787
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:04.239
be possible from Delaware to South Korea
on a ball. But you know,

788
01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:10.239
getting back to what we were talking
about is just I don't know, it's

789
01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:13.479
why does it always go back to
the ball if we can't answer every question?

790
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:17.920
Well, and I think too,
you know, tell me, how

791
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:23.640
do you prove that it's the ball? You know, how how can you

792
01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:28.399
see that? I remember you mentioned
Pike's Peak. I went off to Pike's

793
01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:32.199
Peak once. It was very windy, but when you looked out and I

794
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:38.000
didn't even think about that back in
the day, Like whoa you can see

795
01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:43.880
like for miles and miles and miles, and how can you do that?

796
01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:49.479
If the Earth is round? You
can't, you know, it's just amazing.

797
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:57.359
And then I don't know, it's
just it's like proved to me.

798
01:09:57.560 --> 01:10:00.880
And then, like you were saying
in the other podcast, those people that

799
01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:05.920
think that the world is round,
they can't even explain. They can't tell

800
01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:11.279
you how many miles? Yeah,
or you know, like how many miles

801
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:15.720
the sun is away from the earth
And it's a light. God made these

802
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:21.159
lights for us to enjoy and to
be you know, to be able to

803
01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:28.319
see during the day and even during
the night. I can't to your point.

804
01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:31.560
You know, if they landed on
the moon when they have been like

805
01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:36.279
lit up, you can probably even
see them, Yeah, because it's so

806
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:44.600
bright. Yeah. And then like
bart Seprel pointed out, there was obviously

807
01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:47.560
it was lighting because the shadows were
going in all different ways. Yes,

808
01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:53.520
that's a huge Guyua. We can't
simply overlook. And again I'll say,

809
01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:58.399
if it's one thing or even too, we can call it a coincidence.

810
01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:02.920
But after that you have to use
you know, critical thinking and just kind

811
01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:08.640
of put your cognitive dissonance aside and
say, well, let's see, they've

812
01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:12.199
lied to us about just about everything
else, so is this really the one

813
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:18.119
thing they're not lying to us about. And then to understand the ramifications on

814
01:11:18.359 --> 01:11:23.359
part with evolution and Big Bang,
then it all adds up and it's yeah,

815
01:11:23.399 --> 01:11:27.359
we're being lied to. Yeah,
yeah, I agree with that.

816
01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:38.680
I you know, it's just amazing
that people I think, like you said,

817
01:11:38.840 --> 01:11:46.680
cog cognitive dissonance. I think part
of it is just the television.

818
01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:51.760
You know, back in the eighties, people were happy watching TV and you

819
01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:55.520
know, sitting in their butts in
front of the TV or going to the

820
01:11:55.600 --> 01:12:00.840
mall materialism. Ye you know is
the eighties in the nineties were just so

821
01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:06.640
it was harping on them, like
we got to be like the Joneses,

822
01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:12.960
you know, keep up with the
Joneses. They didn't think about uh,

823
01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:19.920
they didn't have any any they didn't
think you know, even with school,

824
01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:25.239
you know, the education system.
I hated school, tell you what,

825
01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:31.119
I think. I was not meant
to be And a lot of people are

826
01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:35.560
not meant to be sitting in the
school for how many hours or in front

827
01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:38.760
of the TV. You know,
that's what we did. We went to

828
01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:43.920
school, We came home and watched
MTV and watched you know, Madonna and

829
01:12:44.239 --> 01:12:49.479
all these you know videos. Oh
my goodness, and what a waste,

830
01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:53.279
you know. I like, I
listened to some of that music now and

831
01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:56.880
I'm like, what the hell was
I thinking, you know, back in

832
01:12:56.920 --> 01:13:00.920
the day. But I was a
kid, so and it was so attractive,

833
01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:06.680
and you know, going to the
mall buying clothes and I didn't do

834
01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:14.920
that because we weren't We weren't rich
kids. My mother I had to sell

835
01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:24.680
my four h pig to get school
clothes. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah,

836
01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:29.680
those were interesting times. I remember
scrounging up cutting people's grass just so

837
01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:32.600
I could get out and get the
new Twisted Sister album or whatever the hot

838
01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:35.720
thing was. Right every Friday night
at the mall, we'd go to the

839
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:40.119
music store and get our new record, right and go to the arcade,

840
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:45.800
you know. And it was different. I've learned and you know, done

841
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:47.479
research. Things were just as evil. It's just they did a better job

842
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:53.600
of hiding it. I do think
nine to eleven was them saying this is

843
01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:56.439
that was the start of the new
World Order and they weren't going to hide

844
01:13:56.479 --> 01:14:01.079
their evil anymore. And that certainly
is the case between war and the division

845
01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:08.039
of you know, through the Obama
administration into uh and again these people are

846
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:12.159
puppets. I just use it as
a timeline, you know, the divisiveness

847
01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:15.000
of Trump and then now the mocker. We're at the mockery stage. Now

848
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:18.439
there's there's a gentleman who probably needs
help getting dressed. And I'm not being

849
01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:23.359
cruel, I'm just pointing out a
fact. And he's supposed to be the

850
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:27.840
most powerful man in the world.
So we know the the devil loves to

851
01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:30.119
mock us, and uh, he's
doing a heck of a job of it

852
01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:32.640
right now. As a matter of
fact, as we record, I think

853
01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:36.600
tonight's the big State of the Union
address, which I would rather walk across

854
01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:45.000
the asphalt in August barefoot then watch
one second of that. But we're coming

855
01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:47.319
up for the in the last few
minutes, I wanted to give you an

856
01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:51.119
opportunity. Was there anything that you
had noted that we hadn't had a chance

857
01:14:51.199 --> 01:15:00.039
to talk about yet? I oh, I do. I know this is

858
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:08.560
might be a little off topic,
but I just wanted to kind of tell

859
01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:16.560
everyone. It's Second Corinthians. I
think it's chapter eleven. I came up

860
01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:23.680
on my Bible app today because I
was trying to find a good scripture to

861
01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:29.039
send to my boyfriend to encourage him
for the day because he had a rough

862
01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:45.800
day. But in Second Corinthians,
chapter eleven, let's see in verse four,

863
01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:51.399
and I'm just using, actually I'm
using the George M. Lambsa's translation

864
01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:59.720
from the Aramaic of the Peshida,
and it's easy to read. It's kind

865
01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:06.119
of an nice translation. But for
if he who has come to you preaches

866
01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:14.760
another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you have received another spirit

867
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:19.960
which you had not received, or
another another gospel which you had not accepted,

868
01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:28.119
you might have listened to him.
I'm just pointing that out for people

869
01:16:28.199 --> 01:16:32.199
that when you believe in Jesus Christ, I think that you know, when

870
01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:39.680
you say Jesus and just Jesus,
not Lord Jesus or Jesus Christ, I

871
01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:45.000
think that dishonors him and and and
Paul wrote that, you know another preaching

872
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:53.880
another Jesus. I think it's very
important, especially now in this day,

873
01:16:54.159 --> 01:17:00.359
because people will be fooled and misled. And I think that people need to

874
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:04.079
know that Romans ten ninety ten.
You know, if you believe in Jesus

875
01:17:04.199 --> 01:17:10.079
Christ and then he's resurrected and sits
on the right hand of God. And

876
01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:18.439
that's where that is in my heart. I think that's important to know and

877
01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:25.439
to honor God. You know,
you worship and Jesus Christ you honor,

878
01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:30.680
and That's where I'm at with that, and not to be fooled. So

879
01:17:31.159 --> 01:17:39.319
and don't ask for angels to help
you, because angels, I've experienced double

880
01:17:39.359 --> 01:17:46.960
spirits and you may call on something
that's not you know, a true angel,

881
01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:51.600
you know, and it says,
you know, God says to be

882
01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:57.800
to try the spirits right. So
make sure that you know, you call

883
01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:00.520
on God and that's it, you
know, I don't call on angels and

884
01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:08.159
or Jesus. You call on God
Father Abba. You know. Anyway,

885
01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:14.560
that's well done, and I'll include
those three verses in the show notes.

886
01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:21.520
Thessalonians Romans ten nine ten, and
Second Corinthians for as well in the show

887
01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:27.319
notes. It's been a really great
conversation. It's always good to connect with

888
01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:30.880
fellow veterans and share the old stories
of desert storm. I'll never forget the

889
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:35.760
first breakfast we had was fried maloney
and French fries. That's what they gave

890
01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:38.720
us the first morning we were there. I was like, this is going

891
01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:45.199
to be rough. Yeah, yeah, I was like. And back then

892
01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:49.439
the mrs were that the dehydrated beef
patties and pork patties. You had to

893
01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:55.359
add water too. And oh man, now they have gourmet you know,

894
01:18:55.479 --> 01:19:00.439
pepperoni, pizza MRIs. They got
it made furious. Wow. I would

895
01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:05.199
trade. I would trade the fruitcake
for or you know, get the fruitcake

896
01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:12.439
and trade with Yeah. And I
like the dehydrated strawberries. Yeah, there

897
01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:14.359
you go. They were good.
They were really good. A little bit

898
01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:17.159
of water and they were great.
Yeah. Absolutely. Well, again,

899
01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:20.520
it's been a great conversation and I'd
like to give you the last word to

900
01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:27.199
address the audience before we wrap up. Well, thank you for having me.

901
01:19:27.439 --> 01:19:31.399
I appreciate it. I I guess
I wasn't as nervous as I thought,

902
01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:38.159
and I hope I was more eloquent
than I thought I could be.

903
01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:46.359
You know. Yeah, I just
appreciate you. Thank you for having this

904
01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:53.479
podcast that helped my heart a lot, and just being able to talk out,

905
01:19:54.079 --> 01:19:59.239
you know, all the things.
Yeah, well, it's been great.

906
01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:02.800
And again we'll keep your brother Bill
and our prayers and we wish you

907
01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:09.960
the best of luck with your your
journey and all the folks that you were

908
01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:15.680
you know very well, and your
acquaintances that in me too, all of

909
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:18.159
us, that we can break the
ice. And you'd mentioned I think in

910
01:20:18.199 --> 01:20:21.560
your closings that you said it's right
here in front of me. Actually,

911
01:20:23.359 --> 01:20:27.159
I know it's hard to convince people
of God and Jesus Christ, and it's

912
01:20:27.199 --> 01:20:30.279
hard to convince people of the shape
of the earth. And you're right,

913
01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:36.199
both of them, and both of
them are the type of conversations which many

914
01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:40.640
people find difficult to have. You
know, we call the water cooler conversations

915
01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:45.920
like it's cool to talk about sports
and even fringe conspiracies like JFK and these

916
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:49.520
things. But if you get religious, you know, people will label you

917
01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:53.079
and not related. But you know, if you bring up God and Jesus

918
01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:58.439
Christ, right, and then obviously
you know, having that conversation of the

919
01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:00.640
shape of the earth, it's it's
a big deal and it takes a lot

920
01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:06.880
of courage for both of those subjects
to broach with friends and acquaintances. Would

921
01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:13.960
you not agree, Yeah, most
definitely, But it's not impossible, that's

922
01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:18.399
right, you know, and just
it takes boldness and to speak out.

923
01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:23.840
Yeah, there you go. Well, God bless you, and God bless

924
01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:28.319
all of our listeners. Thank you
for continuing to support this podcast. It's

925
01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:32.960
been a blessing to have so many
great conversations with so many people around the

926
01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:38.359
world, which is just amazing.
So everybody, take care of yourselves,

927
01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:41.880
have a great week. If you
have any questions or you want to join

928
01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:45.640
the podcast like Christina did again,
it's The Flat Earthfiles at gmail dot com

929
01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:49.520
and stop by the website and say
hello for Christina. I'm George. God

930
01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:53.560
bless you all. Keep your head
on a swivel and we will see you.

931
01:21:55.199 --> 01:22:03.840
I know it's been struggle. That's
pain. I'm gonna feel tired.

932
01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:12.520
Hell, don't by all the way? Yeah, I know you feel No,

933
01:22:15.199 --> 01:22:23.399
you smile ain't the same. That's
all wall go from. You feel

934
01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:30.319
like you've lost your way. Don't
give it. No, don't give it.

935
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:38.119
But never is home. Don't let
call the primise it ain't done yet.

936
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:43.720
He's got up plaid. Why it's
a way time got up, mamby,

937
01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:59.680
Come why away? God? M
called, I can see this.

938
01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:08.159
You decided you childs are putting up
the five. Oh, you're stronger than

939
01:23:08.279 --> 01:23:15.800
a thing. C are Yuh,
you're gonna be all right. You're accepting

940
01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:24.359
a dead found beautiful. You're shoving
ride. Yeah, you're living, breathing,

941
01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:33.039
move you can hold your head a
pie. Don't give up. No,

942
01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:39.119
don't give in. You never lose
home. Don't let go on the

943
01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:45.720
primise me ain't done Yet's God?
I plant? WA's the way? Tell

944
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:50.359
the god of me because don't give
up. No, don't give in.

945
01:23:51.479 --> 01:23:58.199
You never love home. Don't let
go on the primis. It ain't NiFe.

946
01:23:58.239 --> 01:24:02.760
It's worth lit man, what's a
way down? The god? Baby?

947
01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:16.680
Why's a play down the godav Oh
yeah, what's a play down?

948
01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:36.720
The God baby call? Oh yeah, got TV call. Don't give up,

949
01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:43.159
No, don't give in? Never
sol do they go? Of the

950
01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:50.479
primis in? And do ya's got
a playing? Wat's a kind of in?

951
01:24:50.920 --> 01:24:58.560
Colts? Don't give no, dog
giving? Never hol do they go?

952
01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:04.800
The crime us get ain't done?
Lovers both living? What's done?

953
01:25:05.279 --> 01:25:20.960
God of erics ah, the God
of needs? Why's he done? The

954
01:25:21.199 --> 01:25:38.439
God of a You're listening to the
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