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Coming to you from Studio A at
proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs. It's bulb

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planting time, so use your tulips
and speak to me. It's The Gardening

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Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella, our
engineer and producer, videographer, photographer Adrianna

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Robinson, and me Rick weissed Well, Stacy, I love, thank you,

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I gotta. I love bulbs.
I love fall planted bulbs that bloom

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in spring. And at some point
we'll talk about spring planted bulbs, usually

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tubers or rhizomes that you dig up
and fall on another show. But these

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are the fall planted bulbs, and
what a history they have. I think

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I've mentioned on the show before that
my parents survived the hunger Winter of nineteen

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forty four forty five and the Netherlands
and eight tulip bulbs to stay alive.

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Of course, there was also Tulipmania
in the sixteen hundreds, where investors lost

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track of rational expectations and then realize
they were holding an irrationally priced asset tulip

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bulbs. And there was of course
a tulip bulb market bubble and crash,

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an amazing story if you've never read
about this story, lots of lots of

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fun to read, and we'll put
a link on the website from Investopedia.

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It's an example that's still used today
by investment experts. It was a doozy.

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It was a doozy. Boy,
you summed it up beautifully. I

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used a lot of words to get
to that point. You did it with

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one word, doozy. All right, So today, is planting bulbs in

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fall as easy as dig drop done? That's how the industry promotes flower bulbs.

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And by the way, there's a
website. We'll give you that link

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too at Gardening Simplified OnAir dot com, dig drop done dot com. But

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is it as easy as dig drop
done? They have a personality quiz that

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you can take. I've taken the
personality quiz, which tells you what kind

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of flower bulb you are. Oh, so, what was your result?

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I'm afraid to say. Oh no, I didn't take it, so I

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can't share my hen But I'm a
muscary grape hyacinth. Oh well that's my

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reaction. Oh it's an invasive plant. Well, but it's darling, and

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it's darling and you like blue.
Well, you know, it says if

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you live a life of abundance,
never settling for simple or plane. You're

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in company with good friends, you
like to breathe the life into a party,

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like to socialize that sort of thing. Then you're a muscarry. So

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anyhow, that was my take the
quiz. Okay, and we'll have the

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link there for you at the website. Okay. Through the years of planting

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bulbs in fall, I've learned these
are the key elements. Number one drainage.

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Drainage is super important. It's I
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are native to are mountainous areas with
really good drainage and typically very dry in

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the summer Bingo, Central Asia,
Iran or Persia. As early as the

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tenth century, they came to Europe
daffodils from northern Africa, so yes,

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these dry areas. By the way, fritile area is one of my favorite

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fall planted bulbs, deer and rabbit
resistant. When I was in the Netherlands

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this past spring, they were just
gorgeous in beds. I took all kinds

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of pictures of them. But fritile
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Fritile areas not something you have with
your coffee at a doughnut shop.

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It's a bulb that you put in
the ground and fall. Also known as

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crown imperial. Yes, the big, the big tall one is. I

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have never met a fritillaria I didn't
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They are marvelous. The checkered lily, you know, with a little looks

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like it's it I and I you
know, the crown imperial. For many

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years I was just kind of like
eh. And one year I found some

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on the clearance rack and I planted
them, and I adore them. They

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are so fascinating and you lift up
those little flowers and they have these huge,

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like P shaped, P sized nectaries
in them that are just glistening up.

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They're just they're beautiful. I love
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way you describe that. And by
the way, if you write a book,

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Stacy, that should be the title
of your book. I've never met

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a frittile area. Ideas. It's
aboutful, but it's it's accurate. Planting

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depth also super important. Now generally
they recommend planting a bulb two times it's

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height in depth. So if a
toola bulb is two inches high, they

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recommend planting it six inches deep,
I recommend planting them deeper. You get

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more life out of the bulbs.
I've planted them as deep as a foot

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or more upside down in other words, and where I didn't put the pointy

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side up. When spring comes,
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They do work there way to the
service. It's best if you can,

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you know, point it with the
right side up, but sometimes it's

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not always so clear, depending on
the bulb, and some bulbs it's even

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impossible really to tell which is the
right side up. Something like anemone Blanda,

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which another one of my favorites.
I adore that plant. If you

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can't tell which end is up planet
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Anemone has to be on that list. It's just gorgeous. Chicken wire is

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your friend. Rodents like to dig
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I dig the hole to the depth
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wire in the bottom of the hole, put the bulbs in, start to

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refill the hole, fold the chicken
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That's a good idea, yeah,
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chicken wire. Oh, yeah,
no problem. It's a lesson in photosynthesis.

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Next spring, after they're done blooming, allow that foliage to absorb the

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sunlight until it yellows. It will
re energize the bulb. It's a great

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companion with plants like Virginia, magnolia's, hellebores, lilacs for Scythia's in combination.

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And for those people who struggle with
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fritillarias aliums right yep, Dutch gyrus, and daffodils. Oh yeah, I

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can't go wrong with those. I
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touched them. Rabbits sometimes, but
not the deafodils. Now, tulips are

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great for forcing in containers or you're
gonna have to provide protection and spring because

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they're like candy too. They are, and if the deer don't get them,

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the squirrels will. That's what happened
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have some tulips for forcing, you
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the cold treatment, and then I
was planning to bring them in, and

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then I brought them in and nothing
happened. Why because the squirrels rated them.

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That's frustrating. That's frustrating. Yeah, so it goes what they're delicious

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to them, they're delicious now.
All in all, bulbs to me are

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just like magic. They're like magic. And if you take, for example,

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a tulip bulb with a sharp knife
and just cut it right down the

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middle, you can actually see the
tiny little flour in there. It's it's

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fascinating to see. So it's just
this orb of potential ready to bloom in

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spring. I do recommend feeding when
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The feeding isn't necessarily for next spring, but it's for future years, and

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we want the bulbs to root well
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spring arrives. But like I said, it's magic. So here comes a

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limb, a rick. Spring blooms
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and crocus. Next spring, all
admire tulips while sipping on mint julips,

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A botanical hocus pocus. I have
tricks up my sleeve, amazed by

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what bulbs achieve easier than a rabbit
from a hat. I'm a wizard of

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my habitat in magic. I believe
it's you know, it's so true because

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you're out there on some you know, cold, crummy fall day. You

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got all these bulbs and you're putting
these just lumpy brown things in the ground,

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and you kind of have the sense, okay, I know what a

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daftel looks like. But the difference
between those days when you plant and that

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time when they emerge, it's it's
amazing that you just that small investment in

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time and effort, it pays off
for years. If you pick your bulbs

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well, you know, years and
years. You'll have those bulbs coming up

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every single year and then you'll say, hey, remember that crummy fall day

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back in twenty twenty three when I
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twenty thirty three or beyond and they're
still coming up. It's magic. That's

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that's what it is. It's magic. A great thing to add to your

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hoartfolio now as an investment. Now, don't forget the minor bulbs. Minor

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bulbs are a favorite because they don't
take much care. They come back year

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after year, generally a small size
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miniature too, so you plant them
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miniature narcissus, snow drops, Galanthus, winter aconite, crocus, glory

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of the snow. The anemonies that
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that you love, and that is
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have a bunch of them, and
they're just so tidy and neat and unlike

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some other bulbs that maybe don't age
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ratty. I'm looking at you,
daffodils, You're worth it. But by

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the time you know, May rolls
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with the daffodils. Not so with
the reticulated iris. They're really just remain

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really elegant and interesting even as their
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can take a shot at daffodils,
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Bear in mind that if you're planting
hyacinths, oh, it makes the hair

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stand up on the back of my
neck. Many people, at least fifty

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percent of people get a skin dermatitis
itchy awful feeling from handling hyacine, just

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from handling the bulb. Yes,
so we're gloves. If you're planting hyacinths.

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They're kind of polarizing, like cilantro. You know, you go to

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the spring garden shows and they have
hyacinths everywhere, and some people love it

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and some people are like overpowered by
it. So I'm in the love camp

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there you go. See, So
it's polarizing. Anyhow, that's it for

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bulbs. Make sure you put some
in the ground this fall. And coming

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up next, plants on trial.
Let's see what Stacy, what magic Stacy

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has to unveil for us. That's
coming up next here on the Gardening Simplified

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Show, Proven winners, Color Choice
Shrubs cares about your success in the garden.

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That's why we trial and test all
of our shrubs for eight to ten

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years, making sure they outperform everything
else on the market. Look for them

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in the distinctive white container at your
local garden center. Greetings gardening friends,

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and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified
Show. On the break, Adriana and

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myself took the opportunity to take the
Bulb personality test and not unlike Rick,

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I personally do not agree with my
result. My result was a tulip,

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and tulips are okay, like colorful
there Oh, but that's all they are

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to me. That's all they are. They're just they're just colorful. They

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don't have like a lot of like
space in them. I have some species

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tulips, some real small ones that
I do enjoy, and I just,

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you know, to me, they're
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because all they are is colorful.
I like some things that you know are

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a little bit more interactive. But
it's as tulips are for you. Your

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answers indicate that the tulip is a
perfect match for your personality. Wrong when

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it comes to what you believe in. You stand tall, and your understated

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elegance is perhaps your most striking characteristic
Among the most popular bulbs, Tulips look

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great no matter where you plant them. So, Adriana, what was your

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result? So my result kind of
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I am the versatility with alliums,
though I can't beat it. I exit

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out of the article before I could
read what it says about me, but

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I assume it's pretty good. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah. As a

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photographer a videographer, I could see
I could see alliams. I mean,

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I'd love alliums. So I you
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but it does match my gardening style. So you know, I'm glad

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you got that result. You deserve
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be whatever ballb you want to be. And that's the whole point, because

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I'm sure they have us take the
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and reduce their bounce rate. Oh
that's that's true. You know if we

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take it multiple times, even if
we answer the same we might just get

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a different one, you know,
randomly. Now, last week we were

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talking about scooping up some fall bargains, and I'll tell you fall bargain bulbs,

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I am there for it. That
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would say probably seventy five percent of
my garden is bulbs that I've gotten on

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sale. I have a story on
that that I got to quickly mention.

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I was digging bargain bulbs in my
backyard one night and I had on one

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of those warm it was in December, had one of those warm stocking caps

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on over my face. I had
a pick axe in my hand. I'm

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out there in the moonlight digging holes
in my backyard. My neighbor looked at

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me really odd, never said anything. In a month later he moved,

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so to this day, I think
he thinks I'm a serial killer or something.

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But the bulbs were seven just like
me, seventy five percent off,

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so I had to plan them.
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bulbs, and it's really just the
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Bulb planting season does go well into
December if it must. I have

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planted bulbs Thanksgiving weekend plenty of times
myself. They will be fine. Get

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him in the ground. So if
you don't worry, you don't have to

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like rush out and get your bulbs
if you're not ready to, although you

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do get the best selection if you
start early. But I'm happy to pick

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up whatever's left at the end of
the season. And that's how where most

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of my reticulated iris came from,
because I think people don't realize how fabulous

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they are, and then you plant
them and you're in the money. So

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preaching to the choir, I'm Dutch, where all the bulbs are from,

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so shrubs and bulbs. Have you
ever heard this before? I someone that

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I know they said, you know
what, like, perennials are just getting

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too much work for me. From
now on, it's just shrubs and bulbs.

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great combination because they're both some of

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the lowest maintenance, highest reward plants
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have to work hard to get a
great display. So, of course,

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for plants on trial today, I
needed to pick a shrub that is a

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great bulb companion. And the plant
that I picked is one that we've offered

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for a long time, but I
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in love with it when I added
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incredibly beautiful and unique it is.
And it is lemony lace Elderberry. I

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love this plant. And as a
fabulous copywriter, Stacy described to us what

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the plant looks like in spring,
so it's in your mind, in my

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mind, okay. So it's interesting
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which is known as flowering naked,
and so the flowers come out there's

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no leaves on the stems, and
then shortly after the leaves do start to

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emerge, and they have this kind
of like super lacey flushed with red look,

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and they emerge and by the time
it's fully leaved out, and say,

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you know, mid May or so
it looks like a Japanese maple.

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Yeah, it looks so much like
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expensive and much much easier to grow. Japanese maples, you know, are

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not the hardiest plants, whereas lemony
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So if you live in a colder
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can't grow them, this is a
nice choice. But to go back to

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how it plays nicely with bulbs,
So you have that all of this,

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these pretty white flowers coming out and
this foliage emerges with this yellow color that's

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all just edged in this dark red
color, and it just it looks truly

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interesting and elegant. And in my
garden I have it planted behind a planting

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of hyacinths, which I know is
not Thank goodness, you didn't get hyacinth.

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There's the results on the bulb quiz, and these were hyacinths that I

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got on sale, and you know
a lot of people I think they don't

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have good luck with hyacinths year after
year. But you know, our soil

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here is so well drained that I
have excellent survival and they still come back

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and flower really nice and full.
But it's a color combination that I just

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picked up on sale, and it's
lavender, purple, peach and white.

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And so this combo is in front
of my lemony lace alderberry, which you

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know, I have to confess I
didn't plan it that way. It's just

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where I had space to put my
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When I saw that combination for the
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like, whoa, I look like
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It is magic. So it's a
really unique elderberry. Now, I

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think when most people here are Proven
Winner's alderberries, they're probably thinking of black

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lace alderberry, amazing plant, one
that has been in the Proven Winner's Color

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Choice line of flowering shrubs for years
now. Lemony lace is a very different

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plant. It is still an elderberry, but it is Sambucus rest amosa.

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Whereas the regular black elderberries or Sambucus
nigra, and so it's a totally different

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species, and a lot of people
ask us, hey, can I plant

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I really like lemony lace? Can
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they bloom at completely different times.
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us here in Michigan, if you
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bloom even earlier, and black lace
for us blooms at the end of June.

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So if you don't have the flowers
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so it grows over a huge range
of North America, whereas Sambucus niger

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The black lace elderberry is actually native
to Europe, so if you're looking for

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a native elderberry that's a little bit
different. It's such a great choice.

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And it's called the red elderberry,
not because that foliage flush is red,

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but because its fruits are bright red, So you will need a different variety

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to pollinate it if fruits are what
you're after. But because it does grow

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native so abundantly. Very often most
people will find that they just have enough

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in the wild to pollinate their lemony
lace. The fruits are not edible,

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so the fruits on black lace are
juicy. The fruits on lemony lace are

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really just kind of like a mealy
red coating over a pit, so not

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a lot to eat even if you
want. So this is not one that

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you're going to be using for cooking
or drying or anything like that. It's

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strictly an ornament until plant, and
of course it looks great with bulbs,

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but it looks great beyond that because
you do have that lacy almost like I

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said, Japanese like a cutleaf Japanese
maple kind of texture. It is pretty

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big, so it will get to
be about seven feet tall or and wide

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or or more. It is pretty
fast growing. I found even in you

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know, my really dry conditions,
and it looks great all season, so

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you don't just have that one hit
wonder. It really is beautiful basically from

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spring until full It doesn't really get
full color. The leaves just kind of

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drop while they're still green, but
when they have the red berries on there,

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it's just a really nice sort of
extra season of interest, so it

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is only hardy USDA zones three through
seven. Okay, so sorry to our

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warm climate listeners, this is not
one that you are going to be able

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to grow. It will just burn
up. And even if you try to

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grow it in the shade that we've
just seen over and over over that alderberries

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just do not appreciate high humidity or
very arid heat. So you can console

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yourself, hopefully with one of the
other marvelous plants that you can grow in

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your climate. And I can't say
enough good things about this plant. Have

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you grown it? Same here?
And I have it in my landscape and

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lemony lace elderberry if you're keeping score
at home, fabulous landscape plant. And

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I would say stacey for me putting
plants that have a blue color in combination

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with it, I'm thinking lavender nepetas
they look fabulous next to a lemony lace.

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I'm glad you said that because I
actually have a blue fortune Agastacie in

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front of mine and it is a
great combination. And that was another accident

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so perfect. You know, I'm
not above telling you all that I don't

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have garden design skills. I have
happy accidents in my garden when things just

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happen to look amazing together. So
if you want to get a look at

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lemony lace elderberry yourself, you can
visit us on the web at Gardening Simplified,

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on a dot com or on Instagram. Will post the plant on trial

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every week and you can see it
there and learn more about it and decide

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if you are going to add it
to your garden. We're going to take

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a little bit of a break right
now, but when we come back,

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we've got the mailbag, so stay
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and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show.

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You know, I do love helping
people with their gardening conundrums and quandaries,

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and there are plenty of them at
this time of year. So if

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you have a question that you would
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reach us at help HLP at Gardening
Simplified on Air dot come, or just

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visit Gardening Simplified on air dot com
and ask a question there. If you

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ask a question as a comment on
our YouTube video, Adriana always makes sure

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that those gets answered as she's going
through them, but very often we do

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read some on the show as well, So don't be afraid to ask there

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if that's the most convenient spot for
you. So what do we got in

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the mailbag this week? All right, Carla is writing to us, says

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greetings gardner Guides. Yeah, nice, Carla. I have just purchased a

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home in mid Michigan. I'm currently
at work installing flower beds in the backyard,

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as there were none there before.
Oh, this is a great time

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of the year to put in a
new flower bed. Maybe we can touch

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on that. My neighbor, as
A, has a beautiful black walnut tree

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that hangs over my fence. What
are some plants that would work with jugg

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loan in the soil? Thanks so
much for your inspiration. Wow, that's

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a packed and loaded question. Great
one, Carla, it is, and

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so if for those who don't know. Black walnuts can secrete this this chemical

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hormone called jugglane after their botanical name, which is jugglins, and it can

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suppress the growth of other neighboring plants. Not all plants are sensitive to it.

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The plants that are sensitive to it
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it, and black walnuts are kind
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this phenomenon, although there are a
number of other plants that do this as

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well. A lot of people don't
realize. Sunflowers also exhibit this phenomenon,

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which is known as allelopathy, which
means sort of like having a negative effect

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on your neighbors. It's competition,
right, so they do this to make

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sure that nothing is growing around them
and they don't have to compete with other

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things. But that said, the
general thought on jug loan in the soil

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is that, except for the plants
that are quite sensitive, the effect is

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over hyped people. It's not as
dramatic as a lot of people think that

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it actually is. And when you
start to dive into the science behind this,

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you start to find out that,
again, except for those very sensitive

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plants, which include things like tomatoes, strawberries, I think are very sensitive.

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There's there's a list out there,
and of course we will put I

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will be happy to share my extensive
resources on jugglo intolerance at gardening simplified on

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air dot com. But it's actually
not so much the roots that cause the

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issue. It is primarily the fallen
twigs, leaves, and especially the fruits.

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Exactly all elements of the tree have
this let's call it chemicals, right,

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So it's not like that there's something
excreening from the roots. It really

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is when the leaf litter falls,
when those twigs are falling, that's what

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you really have to watch out for. So if you can keep the area

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free of walnut leaves when they drop, and certainly walnut fruits, which if

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you can't do it, the squirrels
probably will. They are they do an

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excellent job of cleaning up after walnuts
and the area is well watered because if

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the plants are aren't drought stressed,
that also severely reduces the effect that jugglane

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has on the plants. So I'm
going to put the lists out there for

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you. It is a long list
of plants that are tolerant. The thing

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that I have found though, and
so often people will write to us at

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proving winters and say, hey,
is this you know, tolerant to jugglane?

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Can I grow this around a black
walnut tree? Is No list is

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exhaustive. You know, there's a
lot of good university resources out there,

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but really they kind of only touch
on like well known plants. They're not

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getting into well. I mean a
great example is that people ask us often

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if temple of bloom hepticodium is and
it's such an unusual genus that I have

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found zero information out there. And
it's not like we have a black walnut

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testing ground where we put stuff around
and see how it goes. So I

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wouldn't want anyone to be completely limited
just by what is known to be not

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tolerant. It's better to just avoid
the sensitive plants which are going to be

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on these lists that we're going to
share, other than just plant around all

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I know for sure that this is
tolerant. Yeah, I'll add to that

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list. And of course a few
weeks ago we talked about high pericum,

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we talked today about elderberry. I've
found both to be tolerant around walnut trees.

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So there is a sizeable list of
things you could plant around a walnut.

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I am not a big fan of
black walnut. I know some people

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like them. I think they're terribly
messy. They stain the dickens out of

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everything, and when they start their
bombing sortie on your property, they have

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this bitter, pungent, distinctive aroma. They nestle in your lawn and you

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run over them with your lawn mower
and they become projectiles. And yes,

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the squirrels are very good at propagating
them. They love them. Don't send

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me your cards, letters and notes
because I don't like black walnut. Now,

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one thing I do love in fall
is preparing new beds by putting down

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paper leaves and then soil and allowing
the grass to rot underneath. I think

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it's a great time to create kind
of a passive composting things, so to

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speak, right, And it's just
cooler, so you don't have to work

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as hard and get else sweaty when
you're trying to do it. But there

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are a number of resources out there. But again, the long story short

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here is don't take them as the
gospel truth and don't limit yourself as long

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as you're watering and keeping the beds
clean of that walnut foliage. When it

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drops, you're probably going to get
away with planting a lot more things than

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is just what is known to tolerate
them. That's good advice and encouraging.

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Lisa asks, hello, I have
a question about Temple of Bloom. Can

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it be grown in a container?
I bought one earlier this year. I've

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been amazed at how fast it's growing
in my yard. I'd love to have

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another on my patio. I live
in Zone seven. I absolutely love your

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show, look forward to it every
week. I have to share this with

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many of my gardening friends. Thank
you so much, Lisa, thank you

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very mulch and Stacy. Have you
seen Temple of Bloom and a container ever?

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I have not, But that doesn't
mean it can't grow container. You

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know, as I think we've talked
about before, almost anything can be grown

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in a container. The question really
becomes how is it going to perform and

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what is the long term prognosis for
it? And when it comes to trees,

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I think that the best sort of
thing that you can visualize is a

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bonzai a bonzaie plant, because those
are if they were out in the woods

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and had unlimited room for their roots, they would get to be huge,

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you know, sixty five feet tall
trees. Now, of course, temple

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of bloom Heptacodium, the plant that
Lisa is asking us about, also known

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as seven sunflower, does not get
that large. It's sort of tops out

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more than the fifteen to twenty So
what you have to understand is if you

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are going to grow it in a
container, that's going to have a limiting

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effect on it, and it will
stay much smaller just as a result of

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its root space being restricted. And
so if you're okay with that, you're

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not going to get as many flowers. You're not probably going to get as

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much of an impressive display, although
you know, maybe you will. Just

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really depends on the container. But
this is so important. Anything that is

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hardy that can stay outdoors in your
area does need to stay outdoors in winter.

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It needs to experience the light levels
changing, it needs to experience full

405
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air circulation. And so it's important
that if you are going to try this,

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that you are picking a container that's
made of a weather proof material.

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Even in USDA Zone seven, we
are not going to have quite as much

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00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,079
free style as we have. You
know over here, you don't want clay

409
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:26,759
ceramic anything that's going to break,
because that will just expose the roots at

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a time you know, when they
could really dry out and it would kill

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00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,480
your plan and that would be sad. So it's possible, but just know

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that it's not going to be the
you know, really magnificent specimens that you

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see in our photography on our website, or probably like it sounds like the

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one you already have, so reasonable
expectations. All right, thanks for your

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00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,559
question, Lisa, appreciate it.
Tony has a houseplant question. We bought

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a double stem fiddle leaf fig so
fic A sly rata two years ago.

417
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It's been doing great. This last
weekend we transplanted it to a slightly larger

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00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,519
pot for the first time and since
it has dropped about five leaves, they

419
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:07,759
will turn yellow and then drop within
a day or so. It gets plenty

420
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:15,359
of sun and we haven't changed any
other routines or its location help now.

421
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:18,079
Of course, being a foliage plant
buyer for years for a garden center,

422
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:22,200
I can tell you that ficus are
prone to leaf drop, and it's a

423
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:26,440
means of communication when it comes to
ficus. You look at the smaller leaf

424
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:32,160
Ficus Ficus benjamina. If you have
it outside during summer, you move it

425
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,200
in for winter. It's kind of
like what are you doing to me here?

426
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,880
And it will promptly drop fifty percent
of its leaves. And then what

427
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,519
we do is we run for the
watering can and we overwater it and we

428
00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:48,599
speed up the cycle. So back
off on the water, because usually in

429
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,759
this situation it's either transplant shock,
it's too dry, or it's too wet.

430
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,559
Those three things usually I find are
the reason for foliage drop on a

431
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:03,240
Ficus lyrata. But again bear in
mind that with ficus it's just a defense

432
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:07,000
mechanism. They often do that,
and in this case, it was transplanted

433
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,160
right, and they do not appreciate
change overall. But I think you know

434
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,200
my first thought here, and this
is something that a lot of people don't

435
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,079
realize when it comes to houseplants.
When you transplant it into a larger container,

436
00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:23,480
you have an increased volume of potting
mix around the roots that doesn't have

437
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:26,599
any roots in there to take it
up. So when you water, all

438
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:32,000
of a sudden, there's a lot
more moisture around that root ball, and

439
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:36,279
that if they don't appreciate being over
watered at all. So I think you

440
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,799
haven't changed your routine, but I
think you do need to slightly back off

441
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:42,079
the water. Whether that means you
apply less or you're watering less frequently,

442
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:45,599
I can't say, because I don't
know what your routine is, but I

443
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:51,000
would say this is probably most likely
an issue of just having too much moisture

444
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:53,440
around the roots due to all that
fresh soil. So if you back off,

445
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,920
it should recover. I know it's
alarming, especially on a Ficus lurata

446
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,680
because those leaves drop in. It
makes a big difference. Actually they're big,

447
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,039
but I think it will. You
know, if you back off the

448
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:06,160
water and let it start to route
back in, it should be okay.

449
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:09,400
So it's good, so try not
to be too discouraged. If you want

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answers, read our answers to any
of these. You can visit us at

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00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:15,480
Gardening Simplified on air dot com.
We're going to take a break. When

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00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:19,200
we come back, we have branching
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All right, it's time for branching
news. Here from Studio A at Proven

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Winners Color Choice Shrubs, and today
on branching News, I'm going to start

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00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:59,960
things off with bears, those little
lovable fuzzballs. We all love bears,

460
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:05,960
and here's the branching news. They've
moved past your bird feeder and your trash

461
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,599
can. They're interested in something else. A week ago, a story from

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00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,920
Anchorage, Alaska. It's the time
of the year where bears are fattening up

463
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:21,640
for their long winter nap, and
some black bears in the Last Frontier must

464
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:27,000
have figured donuts would help accelerate the
process. So a week ago, a

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00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:32,839
woman who runs a Crispy Cream donuts
store in Alaska got an unusual call from

466
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,319
her delivery driver. He was reporting
that bears were in the back of his

467
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:43,839
van. He could hear them breaking
open the packages. They tried to beat

468
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,119
on the van, but they just
kept eating the donuts. They ate twenty

469
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:53,720
packages of the donut holes and six
packages of the three pack chocolate donuts.

470
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,599
I don't blame them. I like
chocolate donuts. As you might imagine,

471
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,160
the experience has caused the company to
plan to do things a little differently in

472
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,440
the future. They're gonna learn to
slide up their ramp and close the doors

473
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:10,880
to make sure that bears don't get
back in there. So, of course,

474
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,079
you know, you've got to be
thinking about your bird feeder or your

475
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:21,320
trash can debris or food outside with
bears. But they like crispy cream donuts.

476
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:27,280
How many bears got into this delivery
truck? Does this mama bear and

477
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:35,159
a cup that was not good parenting? They walked out of this van glazed

478
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,920
and confused. They had a glazed
look on their face. Yeah, so

479
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:43,639
I'm surprised they didn't grab the wheel
and do donuts in the parking lot with

480
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,599
all that sugar, you know.
But they're just trying to get ready for

481
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,119
hibernation. I just love it,
and I like crispy cream donuts too.

482
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,559
I can't blame these bears. No, Yeah, they're they're opportunistic. Yeah,

483
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:58,760
so there you go. All right, we talked about bulbs today and

484
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:01,199
I wanted to bring this up,
and again, of course we did the

485
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:07,000
personality quiz too. I'd like to
see a black walnut take a personality quiz

486
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:12,480
myself. But so I wanted to
bring this up one of the bulbs that

487
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,159
we didn't talk about. When you
hear people talk about naked ladies, they're

488
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:22,400
not referring to the rock band.
They're referring to autumn crocus or it's also

489
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:30,119
known as colchicum and surprise lily,
which is licorus because they emerge in the

490
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:36,760
fall, so they're fresh, flowers
are beautiful, they almost look like spring,

491
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,840
but they emerge in the fall.
So the bulbs produce clumps of leaves

492
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:45,760
and spring and you have to allow
them to ripen and die and disappear,

493
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:52,599
and that's important for the longevity of
the plant. But then later on in

494
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:57,079
the season you get those gorgeous blooms. So if we're talking about bulbs today,

495
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:00,400
we do have to refer to naked
Lady. I know that a friend

496
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:07,320
of mine, Professor Allen Armitage,
University of Georgia, wrote a book by

497
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,440
that title, essentially making fun of
the various common names of plants. But

498
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:17,199
these are two that you really want
in your landscape. I find them fascinating

499
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:21,360
in the landscape. Right and so
it's similar to what I was talking about

500
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:27,079
with the elderberry. They're called naked
ladies because they flower without foliage, so

501
00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:30,599
that's where that term comes from.
There's no x rated stuff going on here.

502
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,199
They're perfectly family friendly flowers and I
love them both. Now. The

503
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:39,239
trick though with the culture gum,
which are such interesting plants beautiful, is

504
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,039
that they have to be planted in
fall, so you have to actually be

505
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:46,440
going to your garden center or order
them online. These aren't spring planted.

506
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:52,159
They're planted in fall, right before
right as they're blooming, and so a

507
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:53,559
lot of people miss out on that, and I think it makes it really

508
00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:59,480
hard for garden centers to stalk them
and sell them because they are very perishable.

509
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,519
They don't last very long, so
it's worth looking up. It's a

510
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:08,760
beautiful like pink lavender color. I've
seen some houses with massive plantings of them.

511
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,719
They're gorgeous. But savvy gardeners are
probably gonna have to order these online

512
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,280
or ask their local garden center if
they can get them now, because now

513
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,280
they are a little bit different than
most of the other bulbs that we're talking

514
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,880
about. Yeah, so look for
colchicum or look for what they call surprise

515
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,239
lily, which is La corus l
Y C O R I S. And

516
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,400
La courus is not as hardy as
culchicum. So culchicum you can easily grow

517
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,199
here in Michigan like corus. I
think, is it the red one that's

518
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:39,880
a little bit hardier than the pink
one. I think the red one might

519
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,119
be slightly hardier. But if you're
going to try out the like chorus,

520
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,360
definitely go near your house someplace a
little more protected. I love your color

521
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:52,079
commentary. I'm feeling like here in
studio way we need to get swivel chairs

522
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:55,639
because I'm like grabbing my coffee mug
and then looking at you answering, and

523
00:37:55,679 --> 00:38:00,280
then looking at and Adriana and then
the camera, and we can get you

524
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:05,000
a swivel chair like that, a
swivel you know, an anchor chair.

525
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,960
As long this doesn't get too creaky. There's nothing worse than a creaky chair.

526
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:14,480
Okay, we'll bring in some w
D forty. Also, I loved

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00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:21,280
this story, the study Positive Effects
of Tree Diversity on Tropical Forest Restoration.

528
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:28,400
It was published in Science Advances.
The experiment was set up by a University

529
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:34,880
of Oxford professor by the name of
Andy Hector and colleagues over twenty years ago.

530
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,079
But essentially what they what they found
is when they were trying to reforest

531
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:46,920
some of these areas, when they
used a diversity of trees up to sixteen

532
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:53,719
native trees, the area recovered quicker
than when they planted a monoculture of one

533
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,719
or two trees. And that's something, of course I've always talked about in

534
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,960
our landscapes, around our homes,
in our communities. I think diversity is

535
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,079
a very important thing. Having diversity
in a tropical forest can be likened to

536
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:15,440
an insurance effect, similar to having
a financial strategy of diverse investment portfolios.

537
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:21,079
So a diverse mix of trees can
support a much wider range of animal life.

538
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,440
Also, I thought that that study
was important and wanted to get it

539
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:28,960
on our website. You can go
to Gardening Simplified on air dot com.

540
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,760
We put our show notes there every
week. I love the fact that over

541
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,199
a period of twenty years they did
prove how diversity was important. And you

542
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,880
know this, I think does have
ramifications for people in their own gardens.

543
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,840
I mean, who wants to be
stuck with just one boring plant? Yeah?

544
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,880
I mean from an aesthetic standpoint,
from a wildlife support standpoint, more

545
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:53,719
is better and you get to it. You know. From again, from

546
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,599
an aesthetic standpoint, you don't want
something that a garden that's just like,

547
00:39:57,679 --> 00:39:59,639
Okay, it looks really good at
this moment in spring, and then I

548
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,639
have nothing the rest of the season. You want that diversity, things that

549
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:06,960
bloom at different times, things with
different seasons of interest in features. So

550
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:10,840
we can learn a lot from nature. As always, once again reinforcement that

551
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:16,159
diversity is important. All right,
This from Ocean Shores, Washington. Like

552
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:22,159
a kid in a candy store,
except a deer in a candy store.

553
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:29,000
The owner of Buddy and Howe's Candy
Store and Ocean Shores sent Komo News security

554
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:32,639
camera footage from inside their store,
and it's a fun video to watch that

555
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,639
shows a unique visitor perusing the shelves
this weekend. The video shows a deer

556
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:43,920
walking into the store through an open
door, sniffs the candy, and cautiously

557
00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:50,159
walks around before eventually making its way
out the way it came in. It

558
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,559
didn't need anything, it didn't eat
anything. I watched the video. It

559
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:59,199
just kind of sniffs at the taffy
and checks it out. And then leaves.

560
00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:02,039
So we have to stop calling like
hostas deer candy because deer don't really

561
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:06,199
like candy. Yeah. I was
looking for tulips. No tulips in this

562
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,400
store, I guess, no hostas
in this store. I guess I'll just

563
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:14,760
candy. I don't know. Imagine
if the bears had gotten in there,

564
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,840
the ones that got in the pickup
of the Krispy Cream, Yes, the

565
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Krispy Kream truck. Now that would
be a party. This deer just got

566
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:25,440
a little skittle ish. You like
skittles? I think I don't like those

567
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,599
things? Oh not my favorite?
There are, right, Adriana? Yeah,

568
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,639
yeah, same here. I don't
know, not that it's important,

569
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:38,360
but all right, Uh let's see. Oh. As the annual fall migration

570
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:45,239
begins across the Northern Hemisphere, apps
like Merlin, which is put out by

571
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:50,599
the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, have
caught on among birders and non birders alike

572
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:55,800
by revealing just how crowded with species
are surrounding areas are. Now, I'm

573
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,639
assuming you probably have that app,
Stacy. I don't know if you do.

574
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,199
I have it, one of probably
the app I use the most.

575
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:07,320
Yeah, so it's I mean something
really useful. And here's the cool thing

576
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:12,199
is that the app is free.
Amazing. It's such a resource that they've

577
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,960
given us. Yeah, so kudos
to Cornell University and making this app available

578
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:21,800
again. If you were to look
forward in the app store, just look

579
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,599
for Merlin m E R l I
N and you can add that to your

580
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:31,320
phone, especially as we get into
the annual fall migration. Just a recommendation,

581
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:36,880
highly recommended. All right, well, thank you so very mulch for

582
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,440
tuning in the Gardening Simplified Show.
Look for us on Instagram, look for

583
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:45,480
us on YouTube. Thanks for downloading
the podcast. Listening on radio, and

584
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:49,920
thanks to you Stacy, and thanks
to you Rick, and of course thanks

585
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,679
to Adriana. Thanks to all the
listeners. Have a great week ahead.
