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By Billy cunning in the Great America
this Wedday, Wednesday afternoon in the tri

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State, of course, Reds Baseball. They're now impregnable. They're unbeatable.

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Hope. They got beat up by
the Tigers big time. Fortunately a high

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school teams in town called the Colorado
Rockies. And I want to know where

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Hines has been for the past two
or three months. This guy's unbelievable.

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All the action starts about eleven,
about six oh five pm tonight with the

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Lands getting ready for the game,
the big Game tonight. But before that,

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I'm watching CNN. I'm watching Liz
Bonus, the medical reporter of twelve

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or twelve stands for News. And
there's concerns issued by some about ozempic and

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these other weight loss drugs that have
downsides almost everything does. Plus there's a

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case of the Black plague, the
Black Death. One case has come to

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America. Does not mean half Americans
will die either by nuclear war, an

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asteroid to black death, or maybe
COVID. Until then, Liz Bonus,

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welcome again to the Bill Cunningham showing
How are you? Oh, that's quite

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an introduction, really, I'm great. How are you? Pretty good?

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You know I am a little worried
though, that Colorado's playing here, right,

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because that's where they saw this case
of the plague. Well, I

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mean, uh, I don't know
what to say. Maybe the players are

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infected, the better players are left
back in Denver. But the black plague

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is something I didn't think i'd have
to deal with. But before we talk

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about ozempek and weight loss, drugs, nuclear war and possibly we're going to

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be wiped out by this new chicken
virus, talk to me about the black

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plague. Where does it come from? Or are we all going to die

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or just half of us? Well, probably none of us if we just

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simply know what it is, what
we could do about it. The black

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plagus you call it, or the
plague, is an infectious disease. It's

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called caused by a bacteria called your
Sinia pestis, and it's actually transmitted by

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fleas infected probably here you probably hear
it called the black death. That's kind

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of what we know it as just
simply because it was from an outbreak that

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did kill millions of people in Europe
in the Middle Ages, and the bacteria

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circulates naturally among rodents, but it
really infects humans. So the CDC is

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like, we're not freaked out about
this yet, but we do know there's

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been a human case. How the
person got it, we're not sure.

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But if you got bit by an
infected flea that infected an animal and then

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you've got some droplets on you,
you know, from the animal, and

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then you coughed or sneeze, you
could spread it to another person. So

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it's possible, but nobody's saying just
yet that that's how we're all going to

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go. The really important thing is
that if you have some really unusual,

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like kind of flu like symptoms and
it's hard to know, like whoever thinks

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you're gonna have a plague, this
is totally treatable with antibiotics before it gets

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out of control. It's just you
don't know you have it. You're not

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looking for plague. So the real
thing right now, and I've been following

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this a lot, is to find
out if you have any cold like symptoms.

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Do you have a cold which is
just a virus, do you have

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covid, which is now a new
strain going around. We knew this was

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going to happen after everyone travel all
over the world from fourth of July or

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is it allergies or is it something
weird like this? If you have the

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symptoms of the Black Death, are
they similar to the flu, to covid

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symptoms, to allergies, to sinus
problems. You could have the Black death

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or you could have sinus infection?
Is that it? Are those the choices?

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Yeah, they're very similar to start, like by the end you're pretty

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sick. But yeah, but when
it starts, it's going to feel like

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some other virus and you're like,
oh, I don't feel very good.

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The muscle aches, the weakness,
all that stuff. But you can like

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avoid infection with the plague really if
you just don't go to places where wild

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rodents exist. So if I were
you, I'd be staying out of the

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brush, the rock piles, the
trash. You know, I'll do my

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best. What if they call it
like you know, when you go like

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garbage or whatever. You you don't
want to jump into a dumpster late at

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night. So if I stay out
of a dumpster and don't fondle a mouse,

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I might be in good shape.
Yeah, I think you're gonna be

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okay. They're like worldwide there are
human play cases, maybe like three thousand

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a year. And if you get
them treated early, they're fine. But

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this isn't something we want to play
with. We don't want this to spread

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there, and I know you don't
want to hear this. They're actually working

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on a plank vaccine, but it's
not available in the United States. Right

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now, I'm done with vaccines.
I'm not taking anymore. I'm not taking

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the Should I take the black death
vaccine when it's available in case I,

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well, suddenly my body turns dark
on the edges? What do I do?

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I mean, black death almost wiped
out Europe, like one third or

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a half were killed. That they
thought it was like the condemnation of God,

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and the devil was involved. They
had which sacrifices, all kinds of

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stuff. They didn't know it was
the fleas. If you lay down with

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dogs, you get up with fleas. They didn't know that. So you're

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saying the black death. Well,
where in my order a priority is concerned

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for the black death? There's a
high low meat. I think it's I

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think it's at the bottom of the
death. Unless you have fever, children

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coughing, swollen limp nodes. You
know that don't go away. And it's

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getting worse and so better whatever that
is, you should still get it checked

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out. I'll get a checked out
and then we won't have the vaccine for

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a while. But I know you're
like, I'm never taking another shot.

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I understand that I'm not doing it. But when you see your friends dropping

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like flies pardon the punch, with
a bacteria like this, you're going to

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line up like. It's not a
joke. It's a very serious illness.

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So if Tony Benner shows up in
the morning with black feet, fingers and

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noses and he's coughing, don't get
close to Tony and don't exchange bodily fluids

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with him. Is that what you're
saying? Yeah, you know nowadays,

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given the way human resources worked,
if I were you, I wouldn't be

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exchanging Bodley fluds with anyone at work. Save that one, right there,

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Tony, That is a great cut, right there. Save that one for

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Liz Bonus. Let's get to the
real reason we're here. I'm watching the

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last few days, I've seen lawyers, and god knows we need more lawyers.

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The class action lawsuits are being filed
at and so zempic and other weight

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loss drugs that it causes fever.
It causes chills, it causes blindness,

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it causes impotency, heart disease,
cancer, it causes gout. The thesozempic

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drugs, now, the big time
law firms who make money off the misery

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and death of others are advertising now
if you're taking ozempic or these other weight

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loss drugs, call me now.
If you got the sniffles, it's all

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caused by ozempic. And then I'm
watching sonse Gupta, who I kind of

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pay attention to a little bit,
either yesterday or today about there's seven times

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more likeliness of going blind. Kind
of like I guess if you're masturbate or

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something you go blind, it's seven
times more chance. If you take ozempic,

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you might go blind. Can you
weigh in on weight? Because segment's

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thinking about taking weight loss drugs,
he's thinking about taking ozempic and on on

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want segment to go blind? On
me? So what's the reality if the

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weight loss drugs are going blind?
Yeah? I always wonder why every guy

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knows, you know what the connections
started blindness, but never heard of this

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one before. What's up with that? I know? All right, So

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let's break this down. There's a
couple of problems. One is that a

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lot of the people who are getting
these drugs couldn't get them paid for by

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insurance, so they started going to
places that make them off label. You

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can compound pharmacy these drugs, and
some of those people ended up with weird

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formulas that cause complication. So you
can't just blame the name brands like will

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Go vio Zenbic. You know they've
been highly regulated, So the first thing

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is where are you getting whatever the
drug is. But the blindness thing is

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interesting because I've always said, you
know, even with the vaccines, you

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never know what's going to happen in
someone's body with a newer medication until half

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the world is on it. And
we just started seeing these take off with

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especially the celebrity influence. These GLP
ones and what they do is they basically

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prolong the satiety in the gut,
so your gut emptying is slower. Now.

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You say people are concerned about lawsuits
about cancers and things like that,

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but there's also a lot of evidence
that they may fight cancers, and fight

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heart disease and fight diabetes complications because
if you lose weight a lot of those

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things, your risk goes down.
But this blindness thing caught my attention too,

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because it's a very rare kind and
it's something called non arterieric anterior ischemic

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optic neuropathy, and it it actually
causes a sudden blindness to a lack of

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blood flow to the optic nerve.
And so what happened is in one one

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eye doctor's office, he had like
three people come in where all of a

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sudden, they had this sudden blindness, and he noticed. The eye doctor

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noticed that all of these people were
taking these GLP wants. And so you

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know, if you go back through
it, you may or may not have

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grounds for a lawsuit because some of
these things are listed is rare but not

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usual complications. So you know that
maybe one in a thousand, one in

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a million things. But what they
don't know yet, and this is why

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it's really care You gotta be really
careful. They don't know if the drug

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causes that or if it just has
a higher association because most of the people

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who are taking it have type two
diabetes or have obesity, and those are

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already associated with some of these blinding
diseases. So according to the statistics,

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instead of three out of ten thousand
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people using these GLP DASH one drugs. They use the term twice as likely,

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but it goes from three out of
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thousand. And I guess you have
a choice of being obese. You can

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be fat or blind. Those are
your choices. Well, but the greater

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thing is if you address the obesity, your risk for all these other complications

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goes down, so you're less likely
they have a heart attack, you know.

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So I hesitate to say don't take
the drug when we only have an

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association, not a cause. We
don't know if that's what's causing it.

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It could just be because you have
high blood triggers or something, you know

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what I mean. You know that
site problems happen all the time in people

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with diabetes. But I think it
is really important that we find out number

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one and number two. I think
when everybody it doesn't bother me. If

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somebody's medically overweight and your doctor says, hey, this is probably going to

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prolong your life, and it's a
good choice. But if you're taking this,

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which I know I have girlfriends that
have done it, yeah, I'm

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just taking it to those twenty pounds
per the wedding. You know two things

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you need to know. One is
you don't know the risk. It wasn't

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designed to be a short term drop
some pounds. It was designed to be

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a long term medication that you stayed
on for maybe for life, we think

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like high blood freshure medicine. And
then the other thing is that you know

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you need to pay attention to like
where you're getting it from and whether or

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not once you go off it,
you're going to regain all that weight back.

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Because right on the ads you see
for all these it says most people

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did gain back the weight. They
call it, you know, ozempic rebound.

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Most people did gain back the weight
once they went off it. So

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if we find out something awful like
it's associated with some risk of blindness or

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anything else, and then all these
people go off it, it's not like

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the weight's going to stay down if
you didn't already choose to moderate your lifestyle

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and start to exercise that awful thing
that we all have to do, like

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eat less and exercise more to lose
weight. And so we don't know the

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outcome. The lawyers are flying around
the issue, and so many off labeled

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drugs are being used which don't have
deep pockets to go into. The makers

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of ozempic certainly have deep pockets to
go into. But if one starts this

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regiment, unless you change your behavior
by eating better foods and eating less and

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exercising, the odds of you getting
all your weight back are like nine out

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of ten. And so this would
have to be a life term deal.

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Lifetime deal to do it, and
that means you've got to be committed to

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do it for the rest of life. And if you're forty or fifty years

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old, you got to take this
drug for forty years. God only knows

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what the what the outcome is on
decade after decade used, we don't know,

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And so no, and until everyone
goes on it, we really don't

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know. You know, you study
populations, and you study large populations if

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you can, and they've been looking
at these GLP ones for two decades,

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you know, and this never showed
up at this rate until you know,

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we got millions of people on it. So you know, you have to

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make a decision. Is what's more
dangerous to me my risk of some potential

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site related complication. We don't know
for sure. As linked to medicine,

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or is my weight and my diabetes
so out of control that that's probably going

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to harm me. First, we
don't know like how long the people that

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had this were on this drug,
how long they were taking it. We

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don't know, you know, if
there was something they already had in their

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family history that made them predisposed to
an eye problem. There's a lot of

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stuff we need to find out.
But before I jumped on the bandwagon,

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I would at least give myself other
options. What else can ixt? What's

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your segment, Dennis? What is
what is segment's routine? Now? Well,

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it's Ron's Roost, It's uh,
Frish's Big Boy, It's two or

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three trips through Wendy's. Uh,
you're talking about chicken wings. You're talking

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about hamburgers. You're talking about Skyline
and gold Star Chili. You're talking about

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spaghetti and meatballs. He goes nuts
over at UDF shakes that kind of stuff.

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Well, you know, last I
knew that wasn't the best formula for

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keeping weight down. But I don't
blame him. I blame the business.

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Do you notice how hard this business
is on your waistline? Oh? My

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goodness, you work every crazy hour
you're up all night, you get called

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all night. You you are like
always under stress, you're like sitting and

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then you're running around. You're scheduled
all over the place. So getting regular

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exercise at the regular time is hard. There's all kinds of things that like

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are not SEG's falls. And let's
not just pick on Seg by the way,

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because all of us could spare lose
a few lose a few pounds,

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you know, as there's Ron's roost
and Udif shakes right there in the kitchen,

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and it's Ron's roost fried chicken which
is great, and Udf maltz and

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Seg takes two, one for each
hand. What do you think, Ah,

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don't be picking I would I would
tell anyone that likes those foods to

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do half the half a dozen chicken
wings instead of a dozen, and half

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the milkshake instead of the whole one, because I'm convinced. But look,

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that's what we do, Willie.
We go all or nothing, and you're

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picking out or you're starving, and
then you have like no shot at keeping

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it off. What I would do
is, there's a lot of weight loss

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places now that offer a myriad of
therapy, so you can consider the weight

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loss medications, but you can consider
like they still have the weight belts if

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you want to have something put in. They have weight balloons as you know

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that, like the the people at
journey Light will put a U weight loss

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balloon in your stomach and it just
literally does well, not exactly what the

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drugs do, but it makes the
stomach so that it pretty much feels full

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and then want to lose the weight. They can take them out if you

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want, And lots of people don't
even realize there are other options. And

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really, if you're leading to a
point where you might need to consider obesity

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surgery that has been shown to have
a far better long term success rate at

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keeping this off, and it's far
safer than it ever used to be.

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At least we know people come off
their medications. We have these long term

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outcomes. So I just think you
need to look at all your options rather

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than thinking I've always I've known since
the second there was hey there's the magic

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pill, that people were going to
go, I'm just going to take it,

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and then you know we're here,
We're starting to hear about things that

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we would not have heard about before. Well, Liz Bonus you're the best

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there is. We have a choice
of black death, the plague. We've

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got flu allergies, we've got COVID, we have obesity and going blind and

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your optic nerve not getting enough blood. I think we've covered quite a few

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topics today, and you know what
that says to me, sadly, It's

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called eternal job security. If you're
a medical reporter, you're number one man.

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You have nothing, but you'll do
that as long as you can.

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And you're still skinny and attractive,
which is a great thing. Mane,

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if you had this segment, Rachee, Matt, this business is hard on

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you. I know it, but
you seem like you survived. But segment

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has not survived. When when he
first came here, he and I were

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together, he weighed one hundred and
sixty pounds. Now each leg weighs one

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hundred and sixty pounds. So it's
a problem, you know. I feel

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his pain, Like it is so
hard to maintain a healthy weight. If

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I didn't drag my butt up and
get on the treadmill every day, and

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I have to do it at two, three, four in the morning somedays,

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I would never be able to maintain
a healthy weight. It's too hard.

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There's food everywhere all the time.
Liz Bonus, The Power of twelve.

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Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham
Show this glorious Wednesday afternoon, Liz,

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thank you very much. Hey,
no bodily fluids exchanging, all right,

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have a great day. Save that
cut right there, Liz Bonus,

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Thank you very much. Well,
let's continue with more if line becomes availables

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five and three, seven four,
nine, seven thousand coming up more including

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nuclear war where you dive from obesity, optic nerve damage, the Black Death

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or nuclear war. Those are your
options on news radio seven hundred WLW