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Monday through Friday from three until six, eight thirty five. Today, Tim

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Lester, former head coach at Western
Michigan University, former quarterback there, and

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now the offensive coordinator for Iowa,
why that job is appealing to him?

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What he needs to do an offense
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of Iowa football. We'll get to
that coming up eight thirty five. Stick

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around and stay with us. Justin
Verlander and Max Scherzer have always been open

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and honest, opinionated, especially when
it comes to baseball. Recently, there

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was a very good article co written
by Ken Rosenthal and Jason Stark in The

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Athletic where it talks of Verlander getting
ready for a game and the goal is

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always to throw a complete game,
and Verlander says, look, that's the

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goal. Doesn't happen very often,
but that's my goal. He's forty one,

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so you get it. Suzer,
thirty nine, has the same goal.

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Remember this. Verlander in his career
once just once led baseball in complete

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games. That was two thousand and
twelve, the number six. In his

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career, he has twenty six complete
games. So as I get ready to

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tell you a little bit more about
this article in the conversation that Verlander and

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Sureser had, and it's a good
one, okay. Just keep in mind

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that it's not like these guys.
People call them work courses. Today's pitchers

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are not workhorses. We'll give you
some examples moving forward. Just a reminder

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that Justin Verlander has thrown twenty six
complete games in his career. Mac schures

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are twelve combined. Thirty eight.
That's how many complete games they've thrown combined.

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Now, I hate going old school, old man stuff, all right,

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but I would just remind you that
Denny McClain in nineteen sixty eight completed

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twenty eight games by himself, So
he in one season, Denny McClain completed

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more games than Justin Verlander has in
his career. If that's too far back,

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how about Steve Carlton in nineteen seventy
two. He won twenty seven games,

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he started forty one, his team
won like fifty four. He was

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named the Cy Younger Award winner and
finished fifth in the MVP. But he

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had thirty complete games in nineteen seventy
two, thirty, almost as many as

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Verlander and Schurzer did combined. And
before you say, yeah, well,

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you've just you're bringing up two guys. I mean those are kind of the

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except wait, no, no,
no, no, Verlander and shures Aer

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are Hall of Fame players. Yes, okay, then stop Nolan Ryan.

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I'm just measuring these guys against the
best, since they are the best.

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Nolan Ryan Complete Games twenty twenty six, twenty six, twenty one, twenty

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two. When did it change?
Can't say for certain, but we know

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this. It's not even just the
complete games. Can we talk to innings?

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We'll get to that in a moment. The article says that Verlander and

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Surzer are literal throwback pitchers. When
they began their careers in the two thousand

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starters considered two hundred innings a minimum
gage of effectiveness. Two hundred innings,

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Nolan Ryan was throwing three hundred and
thirty in a season. Steve Carlton was

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throwing three hundred and forty six in
seasons. And before you go, well,

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their arms blow up. No,
Steve Carlton pitched twenty four years.

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So what has changed? What has
drastically changed? Scherzier and Verlander have some

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interesting thoughts, but first let me
get any interesting thought via the Meyer hotline

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eight six six eight three eight forty
eight forty three. Dave, how are

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you today? Many good morning chef
representing gr for you too, man a

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boy, So there you go.
But yeah, hey, you know your

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topic, and you touched on this
last week too, this in basketball,

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but this is load management and baseball, you know, because you brought up

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Nolan Ryan. Nolan Ryan had two
hundred and twenty two complete games in his

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career. And you know, when
I was a kid, my guy,

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Micky Lolich, you would throw forever, right, you know, not just

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Daddy mcclaims. They threw Lolis out
there, what four times, you know,

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four times in the World Series or
whatever, you know, I mean

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crazy, but Lolis could do that. So you've really touched upon the fact

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that baseball changed probably before basketball did
when it comes to load management with these

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guys and all of a sudden,
how you use relievers and the way the

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whole game changed in that regard.
Yeah, And and what Verlander and Surser

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are saying too is it's about throwing
as hard as you can when you first

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start the game. So they feel
like that's something. Yeah, but you

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know too, chef, and you
know, there there were right throwers and

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there were pitchers. There's a great
documentary on Nolan Ryan. When he came

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up, he started as a reliever. He was a thrower, he wasn't

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a pitcher. And you go back
to you guys who knew you know,

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and who was Jimmy Price the art
of pitching, you know, and so

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forth when they talk about guys who
learned how to pitch as opposed to just

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guys who can throw. And I
think that's another piece as well, because

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it's kind of the nuances of the
game. It's when somebody gets the higher

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IQ. Yeah, you can,
you can throw freaking seeds, but if

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you don't know where they're going or
what to do with them, that's a

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whole other thing too. No,
I agree a hundred percent on those are

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excellent points. I've seen that documentary
on Nolan Ryan. It's fascinating, simply

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fascinating. And thanks for the phone
call, Dave, I got it a

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break. Yeah, it's it is
about you know what else you're using in

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your arsenal. I get all that, but it's not like those guys in

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the past didn't have similar pitches,
and it's not like those guys in the

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past didn't throw his hard and from
the very beginning Verlander Insurser have come out

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and said what they think has been
what they call an epidemic. We'll get

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to that when we come back.
It's good stuff from ver Lanner Andsurzer.

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We'll get your thoughts on it too, just like Dave joined us on the

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runs of support in fifty innings.
Speaking of pitching, and by the way,

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tonight game two, it's a it'll
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Casey Mice against Alc Marsh. Speaking
of pitching, we were we were talking

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about just before the break, and
Dave from Hudsonville Colden chimed in a little

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bit on the Verlander sures Er mindset
and how it's so different these days.

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This is what Verlander had to say
about the epidemic that's taking place in baseball,

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he says, and he's the one
who used the word epidemic. He

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said, throw as hard as you
can, for as long as you can

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have a couple of big, nasty
off speed pitches, and the second you

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get in any trouble, which analytics
say is usually the third time through the

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lineup, you're out. He said. When I came up, you had

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to hone your craft in the minor
leagues. You had to show you could

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control multiple pitches in the zone before
you were ever able to come up.

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That's kind of fallen by the wayside. The problem is we want to bring

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back the starting pitcher. The analysts
that are now running these teams his words

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now are going to say, we're
not going to be better for that.

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We're going to be better off having
a kid who throws a hundred with a

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nasty slider and do it for three
innings. If he goes five, that's

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great. He said that kid isn't
going to be better than if I told

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him, don't throw one hundred,
throw ninety five. Hit the corners.

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Try to get eight innings out of
this, but analyst world, everything is

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black and white. They don't know
how to value those extra innings, so

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they ignore it. Hmm. I
don't know what statistic we may use,

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or we may come to a conclusion
and an agreement about which is most important.

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Complete games is probably more of a
self induced line that pitchers would like

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to reach. This year, Jordan
Lyles and Sandy Alcntra have three complete games

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that leads baseball to which you may
say, well, that's not terrible.

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Were you know how many starts in
eight nine starts in good for them until

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you dig deeper. A year ago, Al Contra led all of baseball in

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complete games with six. Two years
ago, Adam Wainwright Zach Wheeler led all

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of baseball in complete games with three. In nineteen, Lucas Giolito Shane Bieber

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led all of baseball and complete games
with three the year before. For that,

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in twenty eighteen, there were eight
pitchers who led baseball in complete games

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with two, Sures are being one
of them. Schurzer said, the starts

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that make everybody pull their hair out
is when you go five innings on seventy

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pitches, you've only given up one
run and you get pulled. That's the

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start that is agitating everybody. That
you can be dealing and someone can come

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in and say, because of the
probability theory that you're going to give up

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more runs the third time through,
you've got to come out of the ballgame.

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Verlander seem to have gotten pretty hot. See neither he nor Schurzer are

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blaming the younger pitchers. Like Schuzer
said, you gotta be careful. I

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don't want to bash the next generation. I bet the generation before me looked

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at me and said, you're only
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pitches. We threw one hundred and
fifty. Why aren't you guys throwing one

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hundred and fifty pitches. It's been
the evolution of the hitter as much as

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anything else, Verlander said, a
lot of parents will come up to him,

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parents who have their kids pitching,
and they'll say, my kid's pretty

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good, and Verlander will say,
well, how old is he and they'll

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say seven. They're already sending him
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velocity. You're a kid, you'll
be able to figure it out. There

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are late bloomers. Think of this, Think of the pictures who probably wouldn't

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have made it today. I wonder
if Greg Maddox, a Hall of Fame

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pitcher. Honestly, I wonder if
Greg Maddox would have made it today.

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Because Greg Maddox didn't throw hard,
you know that, and yet he won

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four cy youngs. He wasn't breaking
any radar guns, and yet he won

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four Era titles three times in a
row. He led the majors in complete

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games. Now, he didn't complete
many. It was nine, ten and

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ten. How many is enough.
I don't know how many would you look

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at and say that's impressive. I
think if you're into, you know,

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mid double digits, I feels like
in the thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,

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that's pretty good. Okay, I
mean think about it. Maddox led the

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league in complete games in nineteen ninety
five with ten and he started twenty eight

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games, so you're looking at almost
about a third of his starts. He's

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going to complete game. That's pretty
good. He also led the league in

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his pitch Now the innings pitch was
two hundred and two. I told you

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earlier before the break of some of
the old timers who were throwing in the

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three hundreds. How much does it
affect you as a fan and you're watching

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games, because we'll get text and
we'll get phone calls from a lot of

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you after aj Hinch pulls trek Skouobel
or rees Olsen after ninety pitches and seven

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innings, and you get frustrated.
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just

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saying you get frustrated. So I
wonder if something like that matters to your

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or it's basically, hey, listen, as long as my team wins the

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game. You've got bullpen, guys, you got to use to I kind

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of look at it this way.
Trek Scoobl's on the bump, it's the

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seventh inning. Who's warming up?
Shelby Miller? Who's better? Who can

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I live with if we happen to
lose this game? I think Terrek Scoobl's

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better than anybody got in a bullpit, at least in that moment. If

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we get to the ninth and you
want to go to Jason Foley because you

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need a double playball, I'm okay
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eighty eight forty three. You could
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thousand. Then I know we got
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it says they should nickname aj Hinch
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king of pulling at five and a
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win. But let's keep playing,
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Nothing in sports has a human element
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Now refs blow calls because they have
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a lot to digest there. There's
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sure. To say it's five and
a third is probably a little obviously.

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Look, we all get emotional about
this stuff, but that's that's completely not

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true. And I'm sure the Texter
knows that because if you look at Terrek

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scouble six six and a third,
six and a third six seven, six,

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six and a third six, right, so it's not five and a

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third if you look at Reese Olsen
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that he's a young pitcher and hasn't
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four and you want to save him
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No, that's that's bull crap,
Okay, because he's been in the miners

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long enough. But he has thrown
eight six, seven, six and a

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third. Would you like them to
go deeper? Yes? I would,

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you would, no doubt about that. I'm not gonna let's not get too

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carried away. Let's try to keep
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I hear what you're saying. You're
basically saying he is he pulls his guys

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too early. I have noticed that
more this year, and it's I understand

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where you're coming from. You'd rather
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I. Honestly I would do.
I found this article to be really interesting

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and pleasing and encouraging all at the
same time. This is about pro football

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focuses. This is their interpretation of
it. Pro Football Focus has ranked the

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top twenty five players under the age
of twenty five entering this season. Okay,

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got it going into twenty twenty four. If you're twenty five years or

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younger and you're on this list,
you are in selective company. Ben Take

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a guess at how many Lions are
on this list? Oh wow? How

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many of the top twenty five players
who are twenty five years older younger are

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on this list? Just take a
guess. I'll say five. You're all

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right, Five Lions are on this
list. The number one player in the

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National Football League, according to Pro
Football Focus, the number one player who

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is twenty five years or younger is
Penna Suel. They call him an elite

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force. They don't use their eyes, they use the numbers. Ninety two

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point eight Pro football Focus overall grade
ninety five point one Pro football Focus Run

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blocking Grade, both led all NFL
offensive lineman a year ago. That's how

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good he is, So he's number
one. Here's what they write. Although

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Sewell has already played three seasons in
the NFL, he's still only twenty three

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years old and will not turn twenty
four until October. His three thousand,

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three hundred and fifty nine regular season
snaps over the past three seasons, ranks

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second among all players, and he
is on his way to becoming the best

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offensive lineman in the league, I
would argue, I would add, if

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he's not already, and then they
give the grades that I just read to

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you. So Penny Sewell, according
to Pro Football Focus, is the best

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player twenty five years or younger in
the entire NFL beauty of it. He'll

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probably be there number one next year. Number two is Sauce Gardner, the

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Detroiter. Number three is a guy
we talked about yesterday, Trevor Lawrence.

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Number four is Jamar Chase, and
number five is Kyle Hamilton, the safety

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for Baltimore. Number six is the
next Lion, Aiden Hutchinson. Here's what

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Pro Football Focus writes about Aiden Hutchinson. Flashed potential in his rookie season,

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but he brought his game to a
whole new level in twenty twenty three.

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Now I find that interesting, and
here's why I think a lot of people

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thought this past season that Aiden Hutchinson
was not as good as he was the

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pre season. That's kind of what
I gauged from people's reaction to him.

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Now, remember his rookie season,
Aiden Hutchinson was pretty damn good. He

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had nine and a half sacks.
Like it or not, that's what players

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off the edge are measured for Quarterback
hurries pretty damn important too, right,

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Making a guy uncomfortable is really important. But Aiden Hutchinson quickly If I'm wrong

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here, He only had a couple
more sacks last season than he did his

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rookie campaign, and I think he
started rather slow. It picked up as

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the year went on. People want
him to be Miles Garrett, Max Crosby,

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Khalil Mack, TJ. Watt,
Micah Parsons, that type of guy.

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He's a disruptive force. There's no
doubt about that. Fourteen tackles for

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loss and an eleven and a half
sax season, you would take that.

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Because as a rookie, I think
he got off to a better start and

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that's when people were just so enamored. But anyway, they say he flashed

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his potential, brought his game to
a new level last year. His ninety

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one point two Pro Football Focus pass
rushing grade placed fifth and trailed only an

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elite group of players Miles Garrett,
Micah Parsons, Nick Bosa and TJ.

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Watt. Hutchinson's one hundred and ten
total pressures during the regular season ranks second

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among edge defenders. So you got
Penny Suole at number one, and you

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got Aiden Hutchinson at number six.
Right behind Hutchinson is CJ. Stroud,

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then Brock Purty. We're talking about
the top twenty five players according to Pro

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Football Focus aged twenty five are Younger
Perty at number eight, Garrett Wilson,

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the wide receiver out of Ohio State
and with the Jets, at number nine,

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and Trent McDuffie, the cornerback for
Kansas City at ten. The next

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a Lion. The next Lion is
at number eleven. So you got number

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one, sool Hutchinson, six,
and now number eleven am Mamra Saint Brown.

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He will turn twenty five this season. He proved that in twenty twenty

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three that his breakout twenty twenty two
campaign was not a fluke. He was

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one of just three wide receivers to
earn all PFF overall grades above ninety in

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both twenty twenty two and twenty twenty
three. You know who. The other

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two wide receivers were Tyree Hill and
Justin Jefferson. Saint Brown snagged ninety three

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point five percent of his catchuble targets
over the past two years. That ranks

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second among wide receivers. Not bad. The next Lion on this list of

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best players twenty five years young or
younger is Sam Laporta. Sam Laporta comes

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in at number nineteen. Here's what
Pro Football Focus writes about Laporta. Multiple

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first round tight ends have faced high
expectations in recent years. Laporta, a

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second round pick last year, was
not one of them, but he arguably

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outplayed all rookie tight ends over the
past decade. His nine hundred and eighty

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one regular season snaps as a rookie
led all tight ends over the past six

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seasons by a significant margin. In
addition, his overall and receiving grades are

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second to only Kyle Pitts's rookie season
over that span. There's number four,

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Sewell at one, Hutchinson at six, Saint Brown at eleven, Laporta at

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nineteen, leaving one more Lion who
is twenty five years young or younger in

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Pro Football Focus's top twenty five players
who are twenty five or younger, and

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that is Jamiir Gibbs at number twenty
one. Here's what Pro Football Focus writes

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about Jamiir Gibbs. While he had
a limited role initially, Gibbs got more

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and more playing time as the twenty
twenty three season war on and became an

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electric playmaker for the Lions in the
second half of his rookie campaign. Remember

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this is a guy that most people
did not want. Brad Holmes, Dan

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Campbell, members of their front office
did, but most people did not want

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Jamiir Gibbs. It's okay to be
honest and say you were wrong. It

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is. There's nothing wrong with that. You didn't look, you didn't want.

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I would argue you didn't want Sam
Laporta, Right, No, you

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didn't, and you didn't want Jamiir
Gibbs one of those guys. You're not

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alone. It happens. It's okay. We all make mistakes. I said

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earlier. Hey, listen, man, I mean it's not our job to

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be able to go out and scout
these guys. So that's the general managers.

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Yes it is. And guess what, you're not a general manager.

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We all get caught up with emotion. Jamiir Gibbs was taking twelfth overall.

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You know what, grave they got
one website gave him a D for the

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pick. Here's what they wrote.
Yes he's an airback, Yes he can

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do a lot of things. Why
take him here when there's a guy like

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corner Christian Gonzales on the board.
He's good, but he's a back.

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At least it wasn't a top ten
pick. That was from CB Sports.

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That was from Pete Prisco, who
who specializes in the draft and who does

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a draft show every year on the
radio. He gave them a D.

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He gave Jack Campbell the pick of
Jack Campbell and a plus. And Jack

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Campbell had a good year. He's
not on this list, but he had

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a good year. We're not always
right. I think a lot of people

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probably didn't want Jack Campbell either.
Look. I remember that draft, and

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I remember saying when the lines were
taken, what was at thirty fourth right

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for Sam Laporta. I said,
Michael Mayer is still there. Holy cow,

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that's awesome. I loved him at
Notre Dame, so I thought they

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were going to take Michael Mayer and
they took Sam Laporta. I wasn't pissed

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off about it, but I was
like, hmm, that's interesting. Why

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that? I think I wanted when
the lines were picking at twelve, I'm

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who are they moving up to get? I wanted the van s kid that

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the Packers took Lucas van Ass remember
him out of Iowa. I digress.

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So bottom line is they take Jamiir
Gibbs. And now this is what Pro

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football Focus writes. While he had
unlimited role initially, Gibbs got more and

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more playing time as the season war
on became more electric for the lines in

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the second half. Following Week seven, after his return from injury, he

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earned a seventy eight Pro football Focus
overall grade, which ranked eleventh among running

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backs, while his eighty two rushing
grade tied for seventh at the position.

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I don't think either one of those
are fantastic eleventh and seventh, but you

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can see what he does and how
it makes a difference in this offense and

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with this team. So to have
five guys, nobody else has that many.

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You have one fifth according to Pro
football Focus, which should mean a

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little bit more to most. Pro
football Focus should mean a little bit more

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to you. And the reason I
say that is because they use numbers,

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they use certain studies. This is
what they do. Okay, there's something

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to be said for that anyway,
you've got a fifth of your guys.

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That means the futures really bright.
Now it's not easy to duplicate. You've

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got to continue to do it year
in and year out. But you've got

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five young players among the best in
the game, not just at their position,

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but the best in the game,
who are leading you moving forward.

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It tells you something. I read
another article about what teams did in the

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draft and how it revealed an identity
for those teams, and I thought to

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myself, Okay, I want to
read this because I want to see what

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teams they are and what the identity
is. I would ask you this,

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what did the Lions identity reveal from
their draft? What do you think it

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was? Because the opinion of this
website did not give the Lions identity.

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It just picks seven teams who they
chose and how they feel it's impacted them,

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and I helped identify them. So
immediately I think, all right,

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well, then what's the Lion's identity. I think we know what the Lion's

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identity overall is, but what did
this draft tell you about them? So

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we'll get to that. On the
other side, don't forget Tim Lester,

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former quarterback at Western Michigan, former
head coach at Western Michigan, and now

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