Hello, and welcome to another episode of ten podcast Lane. In this episode,
we look into Area fifty one, Roswell and the Bob Blazark Connection.
Area fifty one, also known as Groome Lake or Homie Airport, is a
highly secure US Air Force facility located in the Nevada Desert. Leading northeast from
the lake, the wide and well maintained Groom Lake Road runs through a pass
in the Jumbled Hills. The road formerly led to mines and the Groom Basin,
but has been improved since their closure. Its winding course runs past a
security checkpoint, but the restricted area around the base extends farther east. After
leaving the restricted area, Groom Lake Road descends eastward to the floor of the
Tickapoo Valley, passing the dirt Road entrances to several small ranches before converging with
State Route three seventy five. The Extra Terrestrial Highway south of Rachel. Area
fifty one shares the border with the Yuca Flat region of the Nevada Test Site,
the location of seven hundred thirty nine of the nine hundred twenty eight nuclear
tests conducted by the United States Department of Energy at NTS. The perimeter of
the base is marked out by orange posts and patrolled by guards and white pickup
trucks and camouflage uniform. The guards are popularly referred to as Camo dudes by
enthusiasts and neuthologists that frequent the site. The guards will not answer questions about
their employers. However, according to the New York Daily News, there are
indications that they are employed through the contractor ACoM. Signage around the base perimeter
advises that deadly force is authorized against trespassers. Technology is also heavily used to
maintain the border of the base. This includes surveillance cameras and motion detectors.
Some of these motion detectors are placed some distance away from the base on public
land to notify guards of people approaching from distance, which is why when people
get even slightly close to the site, the white pickups are usually ready and
waiting. So before we get to the really good stuff, what are some
other, let's say, projects they worked on in area fifty one? Well,
The Central Intelligence Agency the CIA established the Groom Lake Test Facility in April
nineteen fifty five for Project aquatone, which was for the development of the Lockheed
YouTube Strategic Reconnaissance Aircraft Project director Richard M. Bissell Junior, understood that the
flight test and pilot training programs could not be conducted at Edwards Air Force Base
or Lockheed's Palmdale facility given the extreme secrecy surrounding the project. He conducted a
search for a suitable testing site for the U two under the same extreme security
as the rest of the project. He notified Lockheed, who sent an inspection
team out to Groom Lake. The lake bed made an ideal strip for testing
aircraft. Johnson named the area Paradise Ranch to encourage workers to move to the
new facilit in the middle of nowhere, as the CIA later described it,
and the name became shortened to the Ranch. On the fourth of May nineteen
fifty five, a survey team arrived at Groome Lake and laid out a five
thousand foot north south runway on the southeast corner of the lake bed and designated
a site for a base support facility. The ranch initially consisted of a little
more than a few shelters, workshops, and trailer homes in which to house
the small team, but it soon grew exponentially to accommodate more personnel. The
facility received massive upgrades from nineteen sixty to nineteen sixty four, including a massive
runway extension. This was to accommodate the testing of the Lockheed A twelve and
D twenty one tag board, which is an unmanned supersonic reconnaissance drone. Think
about it, nineteen sixty four and they have an unmanned supersonic reconnaissance drone that
could travel at a max speed of mock three, which is roughly two thoy
two hundred miles per hour. I could go on and on, but trust
me, the aircraft and technology in use in the sixties was years ahead of
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back a few years to a story I'm sure you're all familiar with that is
also deeply connected to Area fifty one. On June twenty fourth, nineteen forty
seven, pilot Kenneth Arnold was flying over the Cascade Mountains of Washington State in
the US, helping search for a crashed military aircraft. He saw nine crescent
shaped objects flying information at a height of around three kilometers then an estimated speed
of approximately one thoy nine hundred kilometers an hour, seemingly impossible at the time,
Arnold described the jerky movement of the objects as being and I quote,
like a saucer would if you skipped it across the water well. The media
got hold of the story and coined the phrase flying saucer, and voila,
the conspiracy that would become a household name, the Flying Saucer was now born.
Now, this wasn't the first sighting of it ufo, whereas they are
more commonly known now euaps, but it was the first to capture the public
imagination. Around this time, reports were documented in the area, but were
not taken seriously until one incident in particular happened On the seventh of July,
a month after the Kenneth Arnold incident. A local rancher named Mac Brazil contacted
the sheriff in Roswell, New Mexico, to say he discovered a strange debris
spread over his ranch. He'd found that days earlier, but hadn't thought much
about it until the stories about flying saucers emerged. Thinking there might be a
connection and guessing something might have crashed during the recent storm, he alerted the
authorities. He brought some samples of the debris to the local sheriff, who
in turn contacted the nearby army base, where intelligence officer Jesse Marcel went to
the crash site with Brazil to recover any of the debris. The military base's
public information officer Walter HoTT worked with a local journalist to release a newsworthy report
about the event, which in hindsight was not the best option. The military
took the article read. The many rumors regarding the flying disc became a reality
yesterday when the Intelligence Office of the five hundred ninth Bomb Group of the eighth
Air Force Roswell Army Airfield was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc through
the cooperation of one of the local ranchers and the Sheriff's office in the Chavez
County. The flying object crash landed on a ranch near Roswell sometime last week.
Not having phone facilities, the ranchers stored the disc until such a time
he was able to contact the Sheriff's office, who in turn notified Major Jesse
A. Marcel of the five hundred and ninth Bomb Group Intelligence Office. Action
was immediately taken and the disc was picked up at the rancher's home. It
was inspected at the Roswell Army Airfield and subsequently loaned by Major Marcel to Hire
headquarters. You can imagine the worldwide hysteria as the article headline was read or
AAF captures flying Saucer on ranch in Roswell region. It took only twenty four
hours for the US military to do a complete one eighty and say you were
wrong and it was not a flying sawce but a weather balloon. This didn't
make sense as the original article was written with the military and was based off
the actual debris that was recovered, which was definitely not tinfoil looking material,
and to the day of his debt, mac Brazil swore that the images in
the follow up photos were not of what he recovered. Also, why would
the five hundred and ninth Bomb Group, who were the only atomic bomb capable
squadron anywhere in the world at the time, be sent to recover a weather
balloon. Either way, Without the Internet, social media, and the twenty
four to seven news cycle for the time, the story dissolved from people's minds
and life continued as normal. That was until nineteen seventy eight, when top
nuclear physicist turned ufologist Stanton T. Friedman was tipped off that a retired military
officer had an interesting story to tell. The officer in question was none other
than Major Jesse Marcel. You remember him from the five hundred and ninth Bomb
Group. Marcel told Freeman that the weather balloon explanation had been a cover story
and that the photos had been staged, with weather balloon debris being substituted for
the real wreckage. He also claimed that everyone involved in the retrieval was clear
that the object that was recovered had indeed been an extraterrestrial ship. As well
as Marcel, a number of retired military personnel who had been based at Roswell
corroborated most elements of the crashed spacecraft narrative and added their own details. The
main part is where the wreckage eventually ended up, and that was indeed,
as you guessed, Area fifty one. This brings us nicely to a very
unique individual who came into the public eye in nineteen eighty nine after he appeared
in an interview with local reporter George Knapp on Las Vegas TV station k l
A S under the pseudonym Dennis, with his face hidden, to discuss his
purported employment at S four, a subsidiary facility he claimed exists near the Nellis
Air Force Base installation known as Area fifty one. This, of course,
could be none other than Robert Scott Lazarre, better known to all as Bob
Lazar Bob Lazar was born on January twenty sixth, nineteen fifty nine, in
Coral Gables. From a young age, he had an affinity for technology.
In the early nineteen eighties, Bob had built a jet car that was capable
of going up to two hundred miles per hour from his own garage, which,
as I'm sure you can appreciate, is no easy feat. Lazarre claimed
to have worked as a physicist at Los Alamos National Laboratory in his twenties,
where he helped to work on a particle accelerator. From there, he says
he was recruited to a secretive government base known as S four, a part
of Area fifty one, via a third party company. He claims to have
been hired to work at S four for the purpose of developing advanced propulsion engines,
in particular reverse engineering the propulsion system of a fifty two foot flying saucer
he dubbed the Sports Model. He recalls being stunned when on his first few
days, he has given a briefing outlining extraterrestial space ships and bodies. He
went on to explain the method by which these alien ships worked and the use
of an at the time undiscovered element known as element one point fifteen. Essentially,
he claimed that these space ships used three anti gravity cylinders underneath the ship
that could swivel in one hundred eighty degree or three hundred and sixty degree patterns,
depending on the direction. These cylinders supposedly acted as gravity amplifiers at the
top of the ship. Lazarre recalls the real flanked by three gravity emitters.
When the spaceship was powered on, an anti gravity wave was formed via the
reactor, amplified and then emitted from the bottom of the ship. The rotation
of the cylinders on the bottom then allowed the ship to move in any direction.
What makes Bob Lazarre compelling in some ways is that he is different from
other conspiracy theorists who come up with outlandish claims. He openly admits that he
did not have access to every part of the ship and only knows what he
did because he was reverse engineering the propulsion system. He has said that all
parts of this operation were decompartmentalized, so he only had knowledge of what he
was working on, and the other physicists, technicians, and personnel only knew
of what they were ordered to work on. Bob has expressed that the typical
disc shaped UFO that is seen in science fiction actually flies wrong. He states
that they fly belly up with those three cylinders pointed in the direction of wherever
the ship wanted to fly. Now, the science of his claim is actually
fairly sound. We can't control gravity with our technology, but if we could,
it would probably not look too dissimilar to what he says. Does that
mean he's telling the truth? No, but it isn't as well a claim
as some bob has said. In his time there, he saw nine ufoes,
but only on one occasion when the bay doors were opened all the way
through the hangar. All were different shapes. One was shaped like a jellow
mold, one flat like a saucer, and one that he explains as having
a bud hole in the body. The other half of a story was element
one fifteen. This was an unknown element at the time and in his words,
responsible for powering the craft and was capable of manipulating gravity. He knew
of this element's existence back in nineteen eighty nine. It wasn't until Russian scientists
created the element back in two thousand and four, and then Swedish scientists recreated
the element in twenty fifteen that it had been tested enough to finally be added
to the periodic table in two thousand and sixteen. Now it's worth noting that
we don't suddenly have the ability to control gravity. No stable form of element
one fifteen exists yet, which is what he claims powers the aircraft. Now,
there are some glaring discrepancies with old Bob. The colleges he claims to
gone to have no records of him attending, and there are no records of
him working at Los Alamos. But weirdly enough, through all the investigations there
were off the record's claims that he indeed was dropped off at Caltech for classes,
and when he visited the Los Alamus facilities with George Knapp, workers remembered
him actually working there and confirmed as much. Now, the eighties were a
time where the US was in the midst of the Cold War, so it's
not inconceivable that records of Bob could have been easily terminated to discount his claims
and make him seem like more of a quack and less believable. But the
government would never do that, now would they? Added to this the fact
that Bob Lazaar for years was railed by the police every other week, each
time taking different items and notes. Makes all the more credible that they're keeping
an eye on them. But for what reason if he knows nothing? Skip
forward to to day, and this is what blows my mind. The U
S military and government have pretty much come out openly and stated there are aerial
phenomenon that they have absolutely no answer or explanation for. And this just pardoned
theu pun flies under the radar. He would think with all these d classified
U a ps and U fos they would be front page news, but alas
no, they are not as newsworthy as Kim Kardashian or Joe Biden falling up
a staircase. And this is where it gets really weird. From the d
classified reports, there are videos that show u aps flying belly up at ungodly
speeds, exactly the way bobblers are explained they would travel. Is it too
much of a coincidence that, thirty years after his interview, not changing his
story a single bit, coincidences like this just keep arising that seem to continue
to back up Lazarre's story. Bob Lazar is not without his own flaws and
his poor life choices seem to fuel the naysayers, and not his credibility,
but the consistencies with his story and ever emerging proof of his claims Allah Element
one point fifteen and the Belli of propulsion are just too coincidental for me to
not have some truth behind it. You can make up your own mind on
Area fifty one, Roswell, UFOs, Bob Lazar, and the Little Green
Men, but for me, there is no smoke without fire, and this
far in particular has not been extinguished for over eighty years. And that brings
us to the end of another episode of ten podcast. Lane need to get
my ass in gear and get more episodes out, so do my best,
and that I'm finishing up this episode literally three days before I get married,
so I suppose I better dedicate this episode to my future wife, Anya Hennessy.
She's unbelievable, just couldn't be happier. So thank you Anya for saying
yes and marrying me in three days time. It'll be forever ingrained on the
interwebs now on this so I will be off for a bit of time again.
One episode back and then I'm off again. But I have a few
episodes planned so once I come back from the honeymoon, I will be get
and back into it, and we will get a load more episodes up.
So we're going to stay clear of the kind of the gritty serial killer kind
of episodes and goes more towards like a few episodes planned on, a few
mysterious happenings, a couple of cryptids and yeah, that kind of thing.
Keep it a bit more light and ambient. So thank you all for listening,
and as always, until next time, Aim for the Bushes four