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How's it going? Clippers fans,
Clippers people, Clippers folks meet William Updyke,

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I joined as most most times,
honestly by Charles Mockler and Adam Osland

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Fellas, how's it going? We'll
start with you, Chuck. I'm feeling

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good. It's freezing in Los Angeles, but I have a feeling as frigid.

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I have a feeling the Clippers are
gonna go on another wind streak by

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the time we put out our next
episode, which I'm very excited for.

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But I'm feeling pretty good. Cold
toes aside, I'm doing fine. Adam,

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are you warmer? Are you okay? The Clippers hot shooting keeping us

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warm with that sixty two percent field
goal percentage tie on the season last night,

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I guess again, all right,
yeah, all right. We're gonna

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kick things off talking about that back
to back Lakers versus sounds one severely more

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disappointing than the other. We'll also
take a look at the standings pretty interesting

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right now. I mean we kind
of had some expectations and some thoughts about

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where this team could be, where
they should be coming into the season.

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So we'll talk a little bit about
that, and it will preview the Clippers

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upcoming games as we you know,
trudge on towards March, which if you're

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new to this show, is very
important to Charles Mockler. But let's kick

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it off, Adam, where were
you at after this loss of the Lakers.

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Let's start there, Let's get in, and then let's get into the

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good stuff. As you know,
I wasn't that surprised by it. I

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thought the Lakers would play well,
and I think it's a bad matchup for

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the Clippers in a lot of ways. The Lakers aren't the same team with

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a lot of smaller guards, having
two guard Kawhi and Paul George like they

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were in recent years when there was
this level of dominance from the Clippers eleven

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straight victories that now lost to the
Lakers twice this season. I don't think

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it's alarming. I don't think it's
a red flag or anything to overreact too

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much about. But I do think
they can be a bad matchup for them,

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just because they have so much length
Defensively, I thought that going in

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and the Clippers had their worst shooting
game. Uh well, at least since

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I think November eighth. They shot
under forty percent from the field. They

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still call that matchup. Would you
call that matchup the lengthy boys versus the

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girthy boys? Yeah, hot dog
versus Hamberger. They were sub forty.

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Wow, I knew it was bad. I didn't know it was sub forty.

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They still I had Justin Russeau on
pregame last night and he brought up

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like shot profile based off of that
where the Clippers should have shot, and

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they shot eight percent below where they
normally would hit those shots at. So

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they did have an off night and
it was outside of what the Lakers were

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doing too. It is bad.
As an advanced dad, I get it,

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but I still think. You know, Kawhi Leonard had his first bad

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game and his last fifteen after fourteenth
straight of sixty percent shooting from the floor

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and fifty three percent from the outside, he was due. It happened to

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come against the Los Angeles Lakers,
who said a lot of glowing things about

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the Clippers and how well they had
been playing post game, by the way,

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and he sorry to cut you off. Did you see the new report

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that came out about like how the
Lakers regret how they handled the Russ trade

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that came out today, Like I
just saw the headline, but it was

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like, what to David Menimon apologizer? Literally I think it might have been

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let me look it up, but
yeah, it was like, yeah,

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just like the Lakers like regret how
they handled the situation, And You're like,

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I regret posting anything that could be
interpreted as Russ slander, even when

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I'm saying I love him and he's
doing a great job off the bench,

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but that's not enough for some people. But I just thought that was funny.

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It's like, okay, guys,
like move on. They heaped a

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lot of praise on a visa Zuba's
post game, and Lebron had that comment

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about it's coach louse team right to
say that too. That's been the biggest

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difference. He's putting the guys in
the position to succeed and made that change

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to the starting lineup since then,
Clippers of one, twenty of twenty six.

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Since December one, fifteen of eighteen, six of the last seven after

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beating Phoenix last night. But still
I don't like just how they line up

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against the Lakers team. And for
people who think that, oh, they

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would beat him in a seven game
series and it wouldn't be much trouble and

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maybe the Lakers won't even make the
playoffs and all these things, and I

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heard a lot of it last year
too. Even if yes, I think

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the Clippers would win that series,
I think they are the better team.

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It's going to take a lot out
of you playing this Lakers team that's probably

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not a finished product product yet,
and they probably are gonna go out and

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make a move at some point.
They have a sets two and they can

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do that. But if you had
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round series, where and we'll get
more to the standings later on, but

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that's how it would look right now, based upon how good the Clippers have

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been and the swoon the Lakers have
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I don't love that. I don't
love that. And I've been saying this

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for a long time. There's two
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they're gonna have the home crowd in
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and two, the Lakers get calls
like what are we talking about here.

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You can go back over the last
season ever since that Lebron James Boston

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incident, and the Lakers was something
like a plus five hundred and free throws

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attempted more or more of them attempted
versus disparity versus opponent. That's a problem.

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And they still have Lebron and Ad. Now, if there's injuries,

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we're talking about something else. But
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it would be a knockdown, drag
out fight. The Clippers still had a

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chance to win that game. Will's
Powell Ranger lineup came in. They were

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a plus eight after they were down
by ten, They had the game tied.

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It still took a miss from Norman
Powell that rattled in and out for

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the Lakers to win that game.
But I think there were some warning signs,

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including this, and I'll end with
this here in my little spiel,

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but when we talk about James Harden
and say, well, he's never been

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in a position like this before where
he's the third option of the third scoring

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option. So if you're worried about
him in a playoff series, it's different

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now in this Clippers team with Kawhi
and Paul George in front of him in

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the pecking order of shots. That's
fair. But because he's the guy with

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the ball in his hands and they're
generating offense off of him, it's not

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exactly him slotted into being the third
most important guy in a playoff series.

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He's still extremely important. And the
five turnovers he had against the Los Angeles

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Lakers, where he didn't look like
himself, that was a little bit I'm

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not gonna say eye opening, but
it was his worst game in a long

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time, and the Lakers played him
well and they generated those turnovers. And

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they need James Harden not just to
shoot it well in a playoff series.

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He has to continue to be sound
with the basketball. And I said this

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on the last show, but it's
flown under the radar that the Clippers over

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the last ten to fifteen games,
the turnovers had been up and they had

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been averaging almost fifteen per game.
So even while they were winning because of

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the margin of error and the talent
disparity between them and their opponents, there

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still were some warning signs. There
was a little bit of slippage offensively with

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too many turnovers, and it came
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against the Lakers in that game,
where I think they had eight of their

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sixteen turnovers in the third quarter alone. So I think they're obviously the better

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team overall, and I would take
them in a seven game series. It

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would be a battle for Los Angeles
still, and I'm interested to see how

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they come out when they play the
Lakers later on this month. Yeah,

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I was excited to see him bounce
back so well because all the quote like

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the play, guys seemed pissed off
after the game. Will You and I

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were talking about this, like it's
not often you see in the two and

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three era guys look not pissed off
like at the media or anything like that,

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but just genuinely unsettled with how they
performed that night. That was palpable.

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After that Lakers game, they were
upset and they wanted to bounce back

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immediately against the Suns, which they
fully did. I don't know if we've

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seen the Clippers lose the first game
of a back to back and then respond

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like they did like that in a
really long time in the two win three

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era, because they I mean,
you know it was close issh at half,

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but when they decided to put it
on the Suns, they absolutely,

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you know, kind of imposed their
will on the Phoenix Suns. The other

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night, Tyler had the quote,
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of woke us up. The way
we played defensively, I thought was really

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good tonight, that second half,
especially Will What was your biggest takeawy from

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the Clippers played against the Suns.
Also a lot of Suns fans, a

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lot of Suns fans in the building
last night. Not ideal anyway, Well,

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the biggest thing for me was I
liked a lot of the combinations of

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the lineups. I think they tie
did a really good job minimizing the Hard

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and Westbrook minutes on the floor.
There was there was very minimal overlap between

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the two, which we know just
I mean, it hasn't been working.

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It's it's not to say that it
never will, but thus far it hasn't.

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In a game like that where you
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quarters it was fairly a fairly competitive
game, you definitely needed that. So

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I liked them messing around with those
things. I loved getting Zoo involved.

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Obviously he you know, he has
been so pivotal in this in this win

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streak and Terrence. Terrence had a
great game as well too. Yeah,

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Terrence hit what was it? I
mean, he's like, what ten of

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his last eighteen from outside from three
or six last night? Yeah, Like,

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dude, I think I called him. I think I called him the

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preview that he was gonna I think
he was my player of the game,

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and I said he would hit three
threes. You nailed it. Did you

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have a recall last night on the
clips and double dip as well? Will

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bringing up the Clippers staying big with
the Vita Zoobots when the Suns went small

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on the third, it was very
ineffective. It was so funny to see

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it felt well, I mean,
Nurt got completely invalidated. He got played

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off the floor, Like huge credit
to Zoo for that, and huge credit

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for Zoo for being able to stay
in those positions when they went small,

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like you know it, he was
unfazed. It was so funny. It

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felt like the Sons were like,
oh yeah, well, now we're gonna

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go small, like who's Zubot's gonna
guard? And then it was like who's

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gonna guard Zubots he's a foot taller
than everyone else out there. Like,

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I guess, if you want to
go bucket for bucket, we can,

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but that doesn't help the other team
when they're losing. Yeah, NRK got

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he he he was bad. Zoo
was a monster. Guys. What he's

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done over the last twenty six games
with this new starting line up thirteen and

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ten on almost seventy percent shooting.
And I saw it earlier today. I'm

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looking for it right now on the
lob of the Jam the podcast. I

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think it was doctor Shapp that posted
it. But Harden is the best pull

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up three point shooter on high volume
at forty four percent. Aviza Zoo Boss

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has the highest field goal percentage on
good volume from five to nine feet now

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at almost sixty five percent. Those
two shows the baby hook from Zoo was

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on full display last night against the
Suns. I'm telling you, Zoo,

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he's talked about his confidence so much, and you can see it. It

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looks like Zoo is showing off a
little bit, just showing what he can

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do offensively, which is like this, this cool I guess, giant step

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that Zoo has taken. Zoo haters
and shambles hardened haters and shambles, Terrence

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Man, haters and shambles. But
I'm just so happy for Viza Zoo boss

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to put it together. And I
don't know if it's a chicken or the

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egg thing, but is he being
more consistent because he's getting more consistent minutes

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over this stretch? Is or is
it just him coming into his own at

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the right time because he has this
great pick and hole, pick and roll

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point guard and James Harden like he's
never had before. Whatever it is,

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I just am really proud of the
way he has played because he's been an

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unsung hero, one of the most
reliable guys in the league for a while.

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Yeah, he credited after the game
Westbrook and Harden just has said it

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was fun to play. They played
basketball a fun way when he's on the

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floor, and he said that Harden
rewards him like he's never had a point

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guard who's really kind of like looked
out for. How kind of Zoo felt,

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will Adam? You run up a
good point, like a seven game

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series against the Lakers, that would
be tense, that would be not enjoyable.

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Will How would you feel about a
seven game series against the Phoenix Suns

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to open up the playoffs. I
right stamp of this if you want also

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as well, Yeah, if the
songs look the way they do today January

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ninth, I would feel very very
comfortable with that, I thought. And

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we didn't give him as flowers either, but Paul George was absolutely wonderful as

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well. I think he was four
nine from three, finished with like twenty

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five points. He They just don't
have an answer. They don't have an

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answer for these guys. And Kawhi, you know, had a solid game,

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but not like not like we were
seeing pre the hip contusion, and

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I just I don't defensively, I
don't know, I don't know how they

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how they can stop the Clippers.
I mean they can try to like shoot

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you out of the gym, but
I just don't think that your entire team

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is shooting forty percent from three over
a seven game series like and I think

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that's what it would take as well
as you know, great individual performances from

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Durant and Booker and you know as
most likely Oh yeah totally. And I

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didn't even mention Bill yet, but
I you know, guards, especially smaller

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guards like they've never that's not a
good playoff matchup for any guard against the

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Clippers like it hasn't been and you
can you can look at the data,

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so I would feel really really good
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role players are hitting a stride right
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this like a week ago, but
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would love to have Mason fully back, but I would feel really pretty comfortable

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with where we're at. Whereas the
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questions in terms of depth, and
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having another center. I just I
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really don't know how they're gonna be
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playoff series, if those are the
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them, Adam, how would you
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it out obviously a little bit.
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are gonna win a couple of games
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talent and a bunch of guys who
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Beale and Booker, but they do
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range jumpers. And we saw Vista
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the second half of that one,
and Kawhi just take control. I know

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he didn't have a great game offensively, but a couple of big buckets in

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that fourth quarter, including that ridiculous
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think between the legs as well,
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is what changed the game in the
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he did in the first quarter,
but he was much better in the third

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quarter. KD had twenty points of
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third quarter, and then Kawhi had
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and I think three consecutive steals also
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But I just think it's a bad
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the horses to guard the Clippers because
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that are their offensive juggernauts, two
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and Devin Booker Paul George. I
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over Devin Booker in that first quarter
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no regard. But yeah, he
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he came into the ballgame. They
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way players that you can keep on
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one dimensional. I think the Lakers
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they have some really good defenders,
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yeah, the Phoenix Dones are flawed
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so far with their big three together, and they could still make a move.

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I never liked the move for Nurkic. I don't think he's a great

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defensive censor. I think I know, maybe it was untenable with DeAndre Ayton

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and the chemistry issues there and how
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always thought when they brought in Frank
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of DeAndre Ayton. Now it was
a clean slate, no more money Williams

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and how he's being used. Frank
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they made the move and I don't
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But I still wouldn't like it in
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much top end talent. But I
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first round series in this Western Conference
right now. You know, there aren't

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a lot of teams that you feel
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this in four or five games.
If the Clippers are a top three or

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four seed whoever they're taking on the
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out till later on because of the
not in season tournament, but because they're

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playing. Yeah, so five games
is the new sweep. Winning in five

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is the new sweep. It is
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teams unless Denver against the Lakers and
the Western Garmerce finals. But very true.

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That's a great segue. We can
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We're all feeling great after the Suns
win. We're talking standings. Let's start

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micro, Let's start Division. As
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the Clippers are the worst team in
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halfway through the season, the Clippers
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the Kings, four and a half
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a half ahead of the Lakers,
and six ahead of the Warriors. I'll

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tell you what, as to be
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division pride, not the best year
for the active as a whole right now,

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but I'm not too worried about that
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Do we think the Clippers will finally
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Don't care. Look, I'm going
to get a tattoo of the division

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banner if they win the division.
Have to got it. I'm the only

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plane that matters. What were the
division or California Championship shirts they put out.

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I don't have as much Pac div
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Div to be down so the Clippers
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victories to be a top three seed. But I understand where you're coming from.

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Of course, now wins, you
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growing up Pacific Division banner doesn't do
much for me. I've seen those.

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All right, let's get macro with
it if we want to, if we

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want to screen shares. We got
a lot of YouTube conference demanding more screen

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sharing of the standings, just saying
you know, I'm gonna go ahead and

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share it. Uh. I was
trying to find that that Lakers, Sure,

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but I can't so looking at the
standings right here, let's bring it

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up on the thing. Boom boom, Oh sorry, will do you want

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to click it? I clicked it. Clippers are sitting in what I think

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I like to call the death zone. They're only a game and a half

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out of the Nuggets. Excuse me, not a game and half the Nuggets.

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Oh they are weird. This is
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But if you look at four,
five six or five six and seven,

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that is where it kind of becomes
a hellscape. I think, do we

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think? I think the Clippers can
separate though, I think they have a

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chance. Like I said, you
know, maybe start a wind streak here

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before our next episode, after these
two upcoming games. But I would love

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to avoid this quagmire that is five
to sixty seven. They need to they

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need to be a top three seed. I'm not gonna pivot away from that.

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I've been saying it for years.
The only team that is one that

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has not been a top three seed
is in the ninety five Houston Rockets the

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last forty seasons. It's not gonna
be easy to crack that because Denver,

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okay See, and the Timberwolves are
all ahead of them. We'll see the

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Timberwolves on Sunday, but they have
an opportunity now where we thought. I

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certainly thought when they lost six in
a row that might have sunk them from

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getting a top three seed. But
top three seed back on the menu.

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Boys, Rod thought that too.
I think, Will what do you?

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I mean a great company? Will
what do you? What do you feel

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when you look at the standings?
Right now? Halfway through, we're sitting

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at the four. Not bad,
not bad. I still think looking at

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it though right now, it still
seems pretty difficult, Like who were you

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overtaking? Like who do you think
is realistically gonna slip and day there for

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the rest of the season. You
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and neck nuggets are right there.
I just who do you bump out?

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Who do you think you can bump
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like my only concern you know,
the Kings are game and a half

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on our heels, doesn't really concern
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doesn't necessarily excite me. I think
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but it doesn't necessarily excite me for
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Yeah. I if I had to
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gonna slip, I think it's Timberwolves
in Thunder, and I think because of

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youth, I would have to maybe
guess the Thunder, you know, just

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can't figure out something. But it's
not like I expect them to slip,

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you know what I mean? But
if I'm not, you know, I

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can't really bet against the Nuggets yet
as someone as a Clippers or anyone who's

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watched them play. But I think
i'd have to put the Thunder in the

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maybe get drop down still stay a
top four or something. See when we

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talked about the Western Conference and you
asked the question who scares you the most

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about three weeks ago, I brought
up the Okac Thunder. Yeah, and

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I'm still there with it because I
was just looking at Sorry, is that

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the power Rangers store? What's that
norm? Okay, yeah, yeah,

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keep shooting sixty percent fourth quarters.
That's your delined the norm. If you're

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only listening to this pod and you
want to see what we were just talking

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about, which was Adam's Power Ranger
store my paperweight for my desk, I

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guess check it out YouTube dot com
Slash at Clippers podcast. But continue about

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the Thunder. Uh So, out
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the Clippers on the standings right now, according to tankathon remaining strength of schedule,

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only the Denver Nuggets have a tougher
schedule than the Clippers remaining they're at

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fourteen. The Clippers are at sixteen, but Minnesota is at twenty eight and

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the OKC Thunder are at twenty one
when it comes to toughest schedules left and

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okay, see it can still go
make a move, guys. If they

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want Seaakham, they can get Sea
Oakham. Like if they want marketing,

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they can get marketing. That is
a problem, and they have a ridiculous

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amount of poise late in games they
show up. They don't look like a

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young team to me. That is
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You are right, it's not like
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I think there are more complete team
than the Sacramento Kings were last season

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when they ended up being the three
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and they had a ton of good
health. But Sga he's better I

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think than Darren Fox and jet Holmgrin
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rookie season. Uh, that's a
great option. They have a ton of

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depth. They may trade some of
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It's between them the Denver Nuggets.
I haven't seen enough in the Minnesota

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Timberwolves, but of the top two
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most, Denver's obvious, but I
think okay see, I don't know.

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You know, for years, they
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If you have to go there and
play on the road and okay see,

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that's gonna be a problem. It's
that pregame prayer. It gets everyone so

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fired up down there. Okay see. I would love it'd be fantastic to

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face okay See in the Western Conference
finals and beat them. That would be

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good for the Paul George trade narrative
that people don't think was a good trade.

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That'd be a fun time. I
mean, is worst case scenario losing

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to Okay See in the playoffs or
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What would be worse The Lakers by
a mile, because that team is getting

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bounced the next round. If he
loses Thunder, you probably lose to like

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a team that might win the championship. As of now, that's the team

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you traded with. You can't lose
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how would they match up against them? Who do they throw at SGA.

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To me, that's a situation where
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against Shay gilds allamsander point of attack. Wise, I get made fun of

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for looking at March Adams doing playoff
matchups right now with the twenty twenty four

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Now, Chuck worried about March back
in twenty twenty three. In July nineteen,

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I was worried about March twenty twenty
four. All right, coming up,

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we're gonna talk. The Clippers play
the Raptors tomorrow and then the shockingly

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incredibly shorthanded Grizzlies after the John News
and then Jared Jackson situation. But first

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to one. Welcome back in Clips
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I'm Meta Monslim, we got Chuck
Mockler, we got Will Updek a

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good Clips and Double Dip with Big
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If you missed it, we pull
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a little bit of Rando stuff for
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about the Powell Rangers and if they're
going mainstream yet. That nickname that Will

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coined for the Clippers death lineup,
which did well again, was a plus

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one in just one minute against the
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all they needed per thirty six.
Yeah they're destroying. But let's get into

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some of the upcoming matchups here,
including the Clippers next game against the Raptors

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coming up tomorrow, Sloppy seconds after
the Lakers take on the Toronto Raptors new

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look Toronto Raptors tonight at Crypto dot
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for Emmanuel Quickly and r J.
Barrett Chuck, I know you've done a

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little bit of digging on this Toronto
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no man's land in what direction they
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or reload, and now they have
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or they've gotten two players for one
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more down the trophy Anonobe. But
this is a team that I guess is

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going to lean into more offense,
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over the last season, and really
since Kawhi Leonard has left them, it

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just hasn't looked the same consistently offensively
from the Toronto Raptors. But they still

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have Siakham, they still have talent
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of a culture left over from that
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them a lot of things in Toronto. Yeah, so no Yaka pertle in

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this one, which is quasi big. The Raptors are like, they're perfectly

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in the middle. Their seventeenth offensive
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nineteenth and net rating, so they're
just like a perfectly blow affage team kind

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00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,279
of like every meta wise since that
trade, they're three and one. They

405
00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:07,640
beat the Warriors, Grizzlies, and
Calves plus four point seven net rating,

406
00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:12,920
third highest scoring team in the NBA
over this recent stretch. But will I

407
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,279
had a note on here that I
think, like, if the Clippers can

408
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:19,319
shut down Siakam, and by shut
down, you know below the season averages

409
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,079
for points, let's call it that, it's hard for me to find,

410
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,759
you know, another path for the
Raptors to get to win in this one,

411
00:29:27,839 --> 00:29:30,599
just with how the Clippers are playing. Siakam is averaging twenty nine to

412
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,359
nine over the last three games against
the Clippers, which is bad. But

413
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,119
I'm just not seeing a lot of
avenues where the Clippers don't you know,

414
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,039
turn up, you know, turning
the ball over things like that to try

415
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:47,039
and let this team into it.
Yeah, I mean this, this Raptors

416
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:49,680
team is in a really interesting place
to me. They're kind of it's reminiscent

417
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:55,559
to me a little bit of I
mean a less good Trailblazers kind of like

418
00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:57,119
where they were at for a while
where it's like this, you know this,

419
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,799
where is this really going? Especially
after they yeah, after they traded

420
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,400
McCullum, it was kind of like
that's what the Raptors kind of are to

421
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,759
me right now after like the O
G trade. They have some interesting pieces.

422
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:10,640
I mean, like RJ. Barrett
could make something happen. I mean

423
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,759
like, I don't think he's the
guy right now. Maybe he will be

424
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:15,119
empowered in that offense, but right
now, I don't think he's the guy

425
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,079
to really take the reins. I
don't think with someone like Kawhi or even

426
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:22,200
Paul George on him, he would
could you know, like go off in

427
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,920
a significant enough way to like take
a game over from the Clippers and no

428
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:33,000
Pertol. I think is really really
interesting. That trade still baffles me.

429
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:40,640
But you seem so confused by the
Raptors. It's so great, like yeah,

430
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,039
yeah, And I mean I think
Emmanuel Quickly is interesting. You know,

431
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,920
six Man of the Year candidate.
He could come and provide a spark,

432
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,720
he could maybe punish, you know, he could he could punish this

433
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:52,240
team when especially if we have like
two guards or something. I think it's

434
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:56,559
definitely possible that you know, the
two you know, the two guards I'm

435
00:30:56,559 --> 00:31:00,519
talking about, not just any combination
of two guards. But yeah, I

436
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,319
don't see a lot of avenues.
But then again, I mean, if

437
00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:07,839
the Clippers are viewing this matchup the
same way I am, that just spells

438
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:11,440
double trouble. Well, and they're
starting quickly, so they're already in the

439
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:15,759
spot where they're like starting quickly.
Shooter off the bench, Gary Trent Junior

440
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:22,240
can get hot. How do you
feel they leaned into offense definitely when you

441
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:25,880
trade og Away and that was an
area they were struggling. They're the fourth

442
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,279
best offense over the last four games
since the trade, and they just blew

443
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:36,039
out Golden State up in San Francisco. One thirty three is what they put

444
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:40,519
on them in the ballgame to one
eighteen and RJ. Barrett had thirty seven,

445
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,480
so his best game so far Siakam
was sixteen. Uh. This is

446
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:51,960
a team that's shooting also forty pc
from three since the move, so you

447
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:56,000
can't let them get hot. But
even if they did get into a shootout

448
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:57,960
with the Los Angeles Clippers. You
wouldn't feel that bad about it, as

449
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:04,279
they've been a bottom ten defense since
making the trade. So the Clippers definitely

450
00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:07,000
have a lot of paths to victory
against this Toronto Raptors team, especially because

451
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:10,359
they'll be on the second night of
a back to back. I expect the

452
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,759
Lakers to play hard against them tonight, and uh, that could be a

453
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:20,319
competitive ball game, but it's one
the Clippers they just need to win.

454
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,400
If we're talking about getting into the
top three in the West, this is

455
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,480
a game you have to win.
Friday Friday is another one you have to

456
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,640
win. Yeah. The thing that
I get a little maybe just something to

457
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,480
watch for in this game for people
is they are a good offensive rebounding team.

458
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:42,119
The Raptors have a pretty good their
top ten and total offensive rebounds per

459
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,000
game and offensive rebound percentage. So
that's how many of those games where they

460
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:50,680
balance for boards against Zoo? Right? Well? Very good? I think

461
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,680
none. I don't think where the
ranking games against Zoo. Yeah, what's

462
00:32:53,720 --> 00:33:00,680
the record against what's every player on
the Raptors record against Zoo other than Siakam

463
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,440
who I'm assuming we're gonna throw some
multiple looks at and whatnot? Who are

464
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,680
we about? What do we who
do we want to see go off for

465
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,079
the Clippers. I feel like everyone's
playing so well, it's kind of hard

466
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:14,440
to be like, this guy would
be nice to bounce back team Terrence is

467
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:17,039
crushing it from deep right now.
It's just normal to watch him make multiple

468
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:22,000
threes because we keep saying it.
But I'm ready for like a Kauhi offensive

469
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:28,359
explosion with the two way play like
we saw, like we saw versus Sons,

470
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,079
like like thirty like plus thirty five. Yeah, I thought that.

471
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,960
I thought that. Uh. I
think it was like after the second steal

472
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:39,599
that he was gonna like he was
gonna completely put the game away, which

473
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,599
yeah, I mean it was more
or less he did more or less he

474
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,200
did. I just meant like offensively
as well. Yeah, Adam, Yeah,

475
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,880
he hasn't had more than nineteen points
his last three games, some blowouts

476
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,319
in there, but when he first
came back from the hip injury, had

477
00:33:54,319 --> 00:34:00,240
twenty four against Miami, had thirty
in Phoenix. I wouldn't mind seeing that,

478
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:06,480
but I need to go elsewhere,
I suppose, so I'll go with

479
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,880
a guy who only took eight shots. He made the most of them.

480
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,800
And had fifteen points in the second
quarter alone last night. But James Harden,

481
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,840
aside from the ten assists that he
had to just three turnovers, would

482
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,119
like to see him get twenty plus
points in this ball game. God,

483
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:29,599
he had nineteen on just eight days. Yeah, it honestly could not be

484
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,519
looking any better right now with the
bearded onester out there in a Clippers uniform,

485
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,360
with the way he has played,
it's been phenomenal. It's been good.

486
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:43,639
Yeah, I I guess I just
kind of want to keep seeing Terrence

487
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,639
have this ascension, this getting it
back into his room and getting the confidence

488
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,719
because we talked about the confidence with
Zoo, and it's awesome to see if

489
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,599
Terrence can get feeling No I'm not
saying that he's like shook or anything like

490
00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:58,440
that, but if he can get
to where Zoo is this plus confidence is

491
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,559
feeling so comfortable and making good decisions
and you know, just all of these

492
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:06,840
things coalescing. It feels like we're
going towards that the starting lineup will be

493
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,760
better than the Powell Rangers lineup.
If Terrence is able to get into this

494
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,920
same level that Zoo's at, I
think, well, you're gonna take that

495
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:22,880
smoke will disrespectful. I got another
one. Okay, fire away Mason,

496
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:28,840
And yeah, by ascension, I
just mean I would like to see Mason

497
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:34,199
Plumbley play maybe a couple of minutes
non garbage time. Yeah, two minutes,

498
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:40,199
two minutes, guys, two minutes
a week. By the playoffs,

499
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,199
he's up to thirty six. I
thought he was needed against the Lakers.

500
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:51,960
Uh, Daniel Tice against the Phoenix
Suns makes more sense to me. But

501
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:54,800
against the Lakers, yeah, you
just need a bigger body. He's the

502
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,639
better rebounder, he's the better finisher, and I want to see him in

503
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:05,199
the pick roll with James Harden.
Last season with the Clippers, I heard

504
00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:09,599
this from Doctor shapp earlier. As
a roller, Mason Plumley was something like

505
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,239
a point and a half per possession
as a roller. Daniel Tye with the

506
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,760
Clippers has been about one point one. That's still good, But I feel

507
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,599
like we're forgetting about this whole other
dimension to the Clippers and a guy that

508
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,559
was such a big pickup for them
last season in Mason Plumley. It's not

509
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:32,079
like I want to see Daniel Tye
completely out of the rotation or anything like

510
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:37,480
that. He has earned minutes,
But I think it should be more matchup

511
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:40,320
dependent. Right now, if Mason
Plumbley is fully back to being Look,

512
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:44,199
we're not even at the point.
We're not even at the point where it's

513
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,119
one or the other right now.
I don't think that. I don't think

514
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:49,280
that Mason is physically there. That's
why all I'm saying is like, how

515
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,480
about a couple of non garbage ten
minutes, Like, let's can we assess

516
00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:54,599
that much? I just want to
see that much of an assessment. But

517
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,599
I agree with you. I think
that Tyson I think is very interesting matchup

518
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:02,800
depending wise. I love that he's
on this roster, especially you know,

519
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,639
in a playoff run. I think
having that extra versatility, that extra guy

520
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,480
is great. But yeah, right
now, I don't think that we're anywhere

521
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:15,760
near the conversation of like, okay, where does tys fen in to the

522
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,559
rotation? Right now, Tyson is
the backup center. That's the way it's

523
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:22,400
gonna be until Plumbing is back at
one hundred percent. Let's let's ease him

524
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:28,119
in. Let's you know, let's
let's let's cradle him gently in to uh

525
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:34,320
to uh some some regular yeah,
into some into some regular second string minutes

526
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:37,199
and then hand it off to Russell
Westbrook like Paul George did with the baby

527
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,159
recently, since Chuck took shots at
the Powell Rangers, I just want to

528
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:45,920
go to the starting lineup here.
Someone said on the live that you like

529
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,320
to sew discord, and they might
have been correct because I did not take

530
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:53,440
shots at the Power people like,
well, we gotta give you the starting

531
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:59,039
lineup data for a second with Terris
Man here because it is, let's unreal

532
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:02,800
and to your point, Chuck,
they might be able to overtake the Power

533
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,880
Rangers if he really gets the shot
going. So so far this season,

534
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:13,480
in twenty games played with James Hard
and Paul George Kawhi, Leonard Viatz Zubats

535
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:17,039
and Terrence Man in the starting lineup, their offensive rating is one twenty five.

536
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:21,719
Their defensive rating is one oh eight. That's a plus seventeen point five

537
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,159
net rating. But to dumb it
down a little bit, field goal percentage

538
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:29,039
wise, fifty three percent from the
field in three hundred and one minutes and

539
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:36,159
forty three percent from three and that
is including Terrence Man being in that shooting

540
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:37,760
funk for so long where he just
pulled out of it. Going ten to

541
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,559
eighteen. And one more stat for
you, going back to last season,

542
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,960
Clippers are thirty one to ten in
the last forty one games that Terrence Man

543
00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:50,599
has started for this ball club?
Is that is that a coincidence? A

544
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:54,239
half a season worth of games with
him as the starter, and they're seventy

545
00:38:54,280 --> 00:39:00,320
six percent of those games they have
won. It's impressive. It's not bad

546
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:05,639
at all. So we're feeling good
about the Raptors. Will and I were

547
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:08,760
at Staples yesterday when everyone got the
jaw news, which was kind of surreal

548
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,480
for those of you who missed it. John Morant sublixation that'll get you.

549
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,519
Uh, he's having surgery. He's
done for the year. Memphis fans confused

550
00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:21,760
at the timeline of all of this, which I think I share their confusion.

551
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:30,039
There was a quote Taylor Jenkins today
describe the Grizzlies as gutted by the

552
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:34,119
news that John Morant needs surgery.
Moran's with the team. They're hoping that

553
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:37,519
he can travel with the Grizzlies.
After his surgery, He's likely be able

554
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:39,760
to practice or play, which is
big loss for them. But another big

555
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:49,599
loss is the Triple J is out
verse. I believe their next game,

556
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,480
so they might be down I mean
their two best players or one, I

557
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:59,400
mean one of them is not going
to be healthy. So is this a

558
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,400
trap game? We already we lost
them without John Moran? Is this is

559
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,800
this a trap game if those two
guys, I mean one of them's not

560
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,079
there. But this feels like another
thing where I'm having a hard time seeing

561
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:14,800
the Clippers lose this game. Respectfully. Yeah, this is like, this

562
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,119
is an area where I mean,
this team, where they're at right now.

563
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,400
You know, we keep talking about
we hope that this isn't even the

564
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:27,000
final form yet, and I do
believe that dropping either one of these games

565
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,599
and look like things happen. You
know, you can add like a bad

566
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:35,119
shooting night, like I'm I'm willing
to look at some contexts, but you

567
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:38,760
know, if you're looking to get
a top receis like we think they need

568
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:44,639
to do to be a serious championship
contender, these are the kind of games

569
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:47,639
that you really cannot afford to drop. You just you just can't. And

570
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,960
obviously you don't want to come in
overly confident, but you can't pencil in

571
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,519
a win I guess against anybody in
the in this League. But I mean,

572
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:01,920
if if you were to it'd probably
be the Memphis Grizzlies right now.

573
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:06,360
I mean, if it's not the
Pistons or somebody. So yeah, these

574
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:10,840
are just these would be a little
bit inexcusable losses for me. M They

575
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,320
got to make up for that loss. Wasn't it at home? Yes to

576
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,719
biz Mack and Biambo and the Memphis
earlier this season or he was getting where

577
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,679
he wanted to now they didn't play
big Zoo. I don't think down the

578
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:27,760
stretch of that one wasn't a made
man yet. But uh, yeah,

579
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,840
you have to win these next two
because Minnesota is coming up in Minnesota on

580
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,519
Sunday. Far from a guarantee best
team in the West right now, first

581
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:39,760
time Clippers will see them, and
you might have to win in convincing fashion.

582
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,320
I don't know. You can't give
a team like Memphis. They're a

583
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,000
good home team. They always have
been grit and grind team, whooped that

584
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:51,679
trick. Whatever they say from the
hustle and flow, that is exactly what

585
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,800
they say. Yeah, the chance
that they do, they're gonna try to

586
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:59,360
rally around this injury and try to
find wins here and there and be you

587
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,960
know, a ski team. They're
up right now. Yeah, they're not

588
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:08,679
just gonna give in to this season
because of who they have been culture wise

589
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:14,079
for years now. And if John
Moran I is traveling with them, that

590
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:16,840
kind of speaks to it. Also
just cheerleading off the bench then, So

591
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:23,039
don't take them lightly, but play
well, lock in, execute. I

592
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:27,679
forgot about I forgot about the won't
that trick thing. The Grizzlies are definitely

593
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,679
only gonna lose. That's a loser
behavior. Hustle, terrible movie, damn

594
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:36,000
shots fired, huston all right,
player the movie. Player of the game

595
00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:40,320
picks for Memphis. I'm gonna go
I'm going first on this one because I

596
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,679
don't know I'm going We've already said
plump for that last one. I'm going

597
00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:49,360
to mirror. I think a Mer
is gonna have a good, a big

598
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,519
impact in that game against the Grizzlies. Might maybe I'll hit a little weird

599
00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:53,480
patch in the game of me.
Is gonna come in, hit a quick

600
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:58,199
three, make a defensive play.
It'll be a nice It'll be a good

601
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,119
U a good a Mer game.
I had Amir last night. I'm not

602
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:07,800
sorry about it. He played well. I won't seem to be sorry.

603
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:14,000
I hope I'm able to pick this
player. Russ stands. Can I pick

604
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:19,880
Russell Westbrook back in Memphis after the
game he had last season, because I

605
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,119
think on a road trip like this, even though they got some days off

606
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:27,360
in between, Russell Westbrook could be
very, very valuable. And if you

607
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,599
want to talk about keeping that energy
up and keeping that focus up and that

608
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:34,559
intensity, I think Russ can certainly
help in those areas. So I'm going

609
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:39,239
with Russell Westbrook against Memphis. Will
Zoo. I think she's gonna have a

610
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,360
huge game. Hell yeah, I
think that's I think that's a pretty safe

611
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,679
call. So we're feeling good about
a win streak starting maybe before the new

612
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:52,199
the next episode, the next full
episode, because we'll have some double tips.

613
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:59,000
But they're starting another streak, right, Yes, this has to be

614
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:01,840
the most uh like winning streaks.
You know we're got. We're calling a

615
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:07,400
winning streak three. I think that's
fair. The Clippers are up to three

616
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,199
different winning streaks now of at least
three games. Right. If they get

617
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:15,960
past these two teams, every time
it stops, it just starts again.

618
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,280
It's fantastic to see. It's a
good time to be a Clippers fan.

619
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:22,960
Coming up, we're gonna be talking
a bunch of random stuff. We're gonna

620
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,960
be just taking even a further look
ahead. Adam maybe heard our nickname that

621
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,159
we'll thought of on podcast P.
We're gonna talk some prosecco, and then

622
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:34,960
we got a break down the YouTube
contest one more time. Coming up,

623
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,960
a bunch of random stuff. The
adsn't allowed for some people, So if

624
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,440
that's been the case, you go
ahead and turn it down. Random stuff

625
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:45,880
in three two one, what is
going on? We are back here on

626
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,239
Clips and dip. If you're listening, thank you so much for listening.

627
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,000
Please leave review on iTunes or wherever
you're listening. If you're watching, we

628
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appreciate you as well. Used to
say on our old show that we don't

629
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,000
mention anymore per will, but but
tell your friends to subscribed with the YouTube.

630
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,079
It's at Clippers podcast. We're just
talking a bunch of random stuff.

631
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,519
Adam. You alluded to it a
little bit. We got these games against

632
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:15,199
the Timberwolves and Thunder. After these
two maybe not as intense games. I'm

633
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,440
really excited for the stretcher play from
the Clippers. I think we get to

634
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:22,159
see we know this team is very
good. We know they can be very

635
00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:23,400
good. We're gonna see kind of
this is a what are you made of?

636
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:27,880
Stretch? One of these teams is
gonna be on the back end of

637
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,039
the back to back. I think
the thunder are gonna be but this is

638
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:36,239
this is a really I'm really excited
for these two games just to see what

639
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,360
we really have in this Cliffs team. And I think the bounce back what

640
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:46,119
we saw last night illusions Michael.
I think that was a kind of what

641
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,320
are you made of? How do
you respond after a loss like that?

642
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,599
We saw it earlier when they lost
that Friday night game to the Pelicans,

643
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:57,400
and then the very next night at
Kurpto they held the Dallas Mavericks to eighty

644
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,960
eight points. There have been signs
that this Clippers team has a more intense

645
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:06,480
laser focus this season. We've seen
it a lot. They have backed up

646
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:09,800
the regular season. They have to
get back to respecting it talk. For

647
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:15,639
the most part, these next two
games vital because Minnesota is coming up on

648
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:21,679
Sunday. But I think it's the
best stretch in franchise history, winning twenty

649
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:27,360
of twenty six since the new starting
lineup in the fashion they have, level

650
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,360
of competition wise, when you put
all the context into it and stir it

651
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,079
up, I think it's better than
the seventeenth straight they won in twenty twelve

652
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:38,440
and twenty thirteen. And what you
were talking about there before the breaker,

653
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:44,880
just talking about how confident you can
be about the Clippers showing up for these

654
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:50,239
games against lesser competition and having that
mindset of these are very winnable games and

655
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,760
they can get right back into a
winning streak. I don't know if we've

656
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:58,719
felt that confident in past years like
we do right now with this Clippers team,

657
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,079
because they can just overwhelm you with
talent some nights, even if they're

658
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:05,360
not playing their best basketball. That's
a good call. Well, how are

659
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,159
you feeling if we split this?
This? These two games terrible? What?

660
00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:14,679
No against the Thunder and no against
the Thunder and the Timberwolves terrible?

661
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,280
Gotta win them both. I mean, I'd love to win them both,

662
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:23,119
but you're gonna feel terrible if they
split. It's over. I'm fine if

663
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:27,440
they split the games. If they
split these games, you might switch.

664
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,199
It's all messed up. I know, I'm trying to fix it. Right,

665
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:36,239
it is over it's over all right. If we split against the two

666
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,239
best teams in the Western Conference like
a thing, it's over. You gotta

667
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:44,079
surpass, you gotta surpass one of
those three teams. I know. But

668
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:47,760
if we split split head to head
record matters at some point it could matter,

669
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,480
I know. But a split's not
crazy. I'm excited for those games

670
00:47:52,480 --> 00:48:01,719
we're gonna be previewing Those's not crazy. If you could only get that's what

671
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,079
I'm saying. You can't split,
I hope Tyrese haliburt is okay, Yeah,

672
00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:12,719
absolutely, that was no shade at
Tyrese Haliburton hive coming. If you

673
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,480
can only get one of the next
or those two games between two top teams

674
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:21,440
in the West, who would you
take your pick of getting the victory against

675
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:25,159
between okay See Minnesota, it'd be
the Timberwolves. For me, M interesting,

676
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,360
I'm going okay See. I mean, like, very good team.

677
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,440
I still respect them. I think
we're all kind of on the same page

678
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:37,519
that like, is this okay See
team gonna be the okay See team that's

679
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:40,079
in the playoffs because I mean I'm
not on that page with you guys.

680
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,239
It definitely could go out of it, definitely could go either way. But

681
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,960
with the season that they're having,
I just don't see why you wouldn't use

682
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,480
some assets to make a move.
And if that's the case, I'd rather

683
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:57,920
beat the Timberwolves because the Timberwolves are
right now, they're going to be in

684
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,920
the playoffs, and I think that
those were are important. I'm taking the

685
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:07,239
Thunder just strictly for this regular season
one because I want to see I want

686
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,800
to see Shay get locked up by
our defense. I just selfishly I would

687
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,599
like to see that happen, and
it would be cool to get a win

688
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:16,239
when that happened. But Will's reasoning
is makes a lot more sense than the

689
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:22,639
actual long run for the Clippers.
It's a tough call. I see it

690
00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:25,679
Will's way. The only reason I'll
say okay see is because they already have

691
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,920
lost to them, and it was
a game without Kawhi Leonard on the road

692
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,519
and they lost bad. And I
do want to see what they can do

693
00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:37,400
at full strength against okay See and
give us a little bit of a glimpse

694
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,760
of that. How they could try
to bottle up Sha kills is Alexander,

695
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,320
because nobody's really doing it, and
with his quick first step and the mid

696
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,760
range game and the arraya shots that
he has. Now, I'm not sure

697
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,519
how you do it, and things
can fall apart from there. If you

698
00:49:55,679 --> 00:50:00,920
let him consistently get by you,
you're not taking up that challenge. And

699
00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:05,840
look, even if you do,
he's just so fast now and he's so

700
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,159
much in control. I just I
am very curious to see how the Clippers

701
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:14,880
do at full strength against Okay,
see hopefully full strength. Also, hell

702
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,679
yeah, it's gonna be some good
basketball. Next on the docket, Adam,

703
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:23,440
did the Power Rangers get mentioned on
Podcast P or I Gotta Take the

704
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:27,719
l there? I listened to it
multiple times. The first time when I

705
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,800
texted you guys, and I was
all excited. I was like, they

706
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:35,239
mentioned the Power Rangers on Podcast P. He just said Power Rangers and was

707
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,519
comparing coincidentally, I guess them getting
it together after losing five in a row

708
00:50:42,199 --> 00:50:45,039
to the Power Rangers getting beat up
early in the episode and then coming back

709
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:50,159
and then morphing and then having the
Zords and then pulling it out eventually.

710
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,719
So that was the analogy and metaphor
that Paul George was using. But it's

711
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:59,639
gonna happen. The word is getting
out the words getting out. There may

712
00:50:59,679 --> 00:51:04,239
be a shirt coming. Eric Buie
said on the last live stream in the

713
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,480
comments that that there's a Power Rangers
shirt Powell Ranger shirt possibly happening. Will

714
00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:13,159
this one's for you? Have you
tried James Harden's prosecco yet? If not,

715
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,440
should we go to his tasting event
on the twenty fifth. I have

716
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:22,320
not tried it, but yes we
should go. Tasting event seems fun.

717
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,760
If James Harden is there. Why
not we could try and dress like James

718
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,719
and be told that we were not
allowed at the function. I think is

719
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:34,800
what would probably happen. All right, last thing, we had the YouTube

720
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,480
contest winner from last time we did
the episode Adam. Has Luca gotten their

721
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:43,840
shirt sent out yet or no?
Have we got the padded mailer in the

722
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,360
mail? I haven't sent it out
yet. I will later this week.

723
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,559
And even if I had sent it
out by now, it wouldn't be in

724
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:54,480
Germany, so I'm not overnighting it. No one's asking you to overnight it.

725
00:51:57,039 --> 00:51:59,559
Oh, tracking well, we need
the track it's going, David Beren.

726
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,840
I will include it into a dome
rock in a ziplock bag so it

727
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:10,159
doesn't dirty up the shirt ziplock bag, clean apparel. That's what you can

728
00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:15,599
get here. We need professional shipping
here at clip professional Uh. And then

729
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:21,280
there's a YouTube contest for this video. Correct. I believe we have another

730
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,559
best comment contest over on at YouTube
dot com slash at Clippers podcast. You

731
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:29,880
comment on this video, we picked
the best one. It was pretty unanimous.

732
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,880
Last time, we are giving away
the Mexican Heritage Night jersey from the

733
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,400
Clippers. This thing is sick legit
mesh. I believe Adam, you're the

734
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:43,280
only one who's touched it, so
can you confirm feels like it? I

735
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,639
could read off of it? Oh, made in China? Is that one

736
00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:52,079
polyester? That's legit? Right?
We had some inquiries from some of our

737
00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:54,920
friends that we're trying to get ahold
of this jersey, but I don't think

738
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:59,199
that would be fair after we already
advertise best comment on it. Of course,

739
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:00,800
unless Hey, if they want to
put a comment on there and it's

740
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,880
the best one, you could have
the jersey. It's that easy. If

741
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,880
this guy wants to get back on
the internet, i'd, you know,

742
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:12,639
encourage him to do so. All
right, I think that about wraps it

743
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,000
up. We want to thank you
all the listeners all the viewers as well.

744
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:19,519
Will where can these people? Like, what do we need these people

745
00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:22,320
to do? If they're maybe listening
to this on a on a certain platform.

746
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,800
Sure, if you're listening to this, it'd be great if you could

747
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,840
give us a rating or review.
You can do that over on Apple Podcasts

748
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,360
or Spotify. Get those Spotify numbers
up. I feel like not enough people

749
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,639
are leaving ratings and view them on
Spotify. They do that now. You

750
00:53:36,679 --> 00:53:38,400
can also listen to the show wherever
you get your podcasts. On Amazon Music,

751
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,760
We're on Google Podcast, on stitch
we're on These are all the usual

752
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,480
suspects. However, if you listen
to the show, you're only getting half

753
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,519
of these. I'm sorry. You're
paying the same price, which is free,

754
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,039
so you're only getting to be clear
experience. So if you want to

755
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:54,679
get the full experience, you got
to follow us over on YouTube. That's

756
00:53:54,760 --> 00:54:00,119
YouTube dot com. Slash Clippers podcast
really trying to get to a thousand and

757
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:01,280
subscribers by the end of this month. If you can help us out,

758
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,159
tell your friends, that'd be awesome. You can chop it up with us

759
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,559
anytime over on Twitter that's at clippers
pot Thank you so much for listening.

760
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,440
And as soon as we get monetized
on YouTube, all of that money is

761
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,519
going to the give No Quarters thing
that we have going on, which we

762
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:19,719
we will have an update on the
next pod. We'll figure out how many

763
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,800
quarters they gave no quarter last night
against Phoenix. Hey, we saved a

764
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:29,199
couple a couple of seventy five cents. Those charities are hurting. Now,

765
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,719
Oh, we have to pick a
charity too, So if you throw a

766
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,519
charity we should donate to, We're
gonna dot We're each going to donate a

767
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:42,079
quarter for every quarter the Clippers lose
at the end of the season, Adam,

768
00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:46,280
would you like to send us out
on some positive stuff. Yeah.

769
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:52,039
As we have mentioned, this Clippers
team is playing great basketball and the response,

770
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,800
as Chuck said earlier in the podcast, very encouraging. After losing that

771
00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:00,760
game to the Lakers, they looked
upset about a postgame they said, this

772
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,320
is not the team we are,
and then coach lou last night said it

773
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,119
kind of woke us up and you
need games like that here and there.

774
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:10,159
I know a lot of people are
saying, if we just didn't lose this

775
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:15,079
game earlier, if we just didn't
lose that game earlier, we'd already be

776
00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:17,280
tied with the Denver Nuggets or the
OKC thunder. But the truth is,

777
00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:23,039
you know, there is somewhat of
that butterfly effect where those losses fueled wins

778
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:28,199
later on because you learn from them. I don't know if they're at this

779
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,320
point, if they didn't lose to
the Denver Nuggets the way they did against

780
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:35,239
Reggie Jackson and DeAndre Jordan, it
may be a blessing in disguise. Like

781
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,320
some players on the Clippers already see
it as, I think it's gotten their

782
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:44,599
full attention, It made them adjusted, made them make tough decisions, and

783
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:47,119
so sometimes I do feel like everything
happens for a reason. I'm not always

784
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:52,559
that guy that's looking at it a
glass half fle being the optimist or anything.

785
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:57,519
Oh yeah, I believe it or
not. But when it comes to

786
00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:00,800
the Clippers so far this season,
and I know a lot of people are

787
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,360
saying, if we just got James
Harden a little bit earlier. If they

788
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,159
did, they probably would have had
to give up Terrence Man to do so,

789
00:56:06,159 --> 00:56:13,599
so thankfulness that didn't happen. Everything
right now feels like intelligent design.

790
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,840
Hell yeah, sorry, ip A
Biola g I praise. Let's go we

791
00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:23,559
again, Adam, thank you for
the positive send off. We'll be back

792
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:30,679
most likely Thursday, definitely Saturday to
talk the very important matchups against the Timberwolves

793
00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:32,679
and Thunder. We will talk to
y'all then we're gonna have a double dip

794
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,199
for you. We're are on AM
five to seventy with Adam after the game.

795
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,360
I hope everyone has a great rest
of your week and as always,

796
00:56:38,679 --> 00:56:39,400
let's go Clips.