Welcome to Missing Persons case files. A place where they're gone, Are not
the forgotten? What's happening in the forest of North America? How are so
many people disappearing only to have the remains found much later, or in many
cases not at all. Are the predators to blame, giant hair covered beasts
or even more terrifying us as humans? Maybe it's both, Maybe it's neither.
These are just a few of the questions we'll look to uncover here on
the missing person's case files. Alfred Edwin Bellhearts born nineteen thirty four disappeared July
third, nineteen thirty eight. On July third, nineteen thirty eight, the
Bellhartz family took advance of the Independence Day weekend to go camping in Colorado's Rocky
Mountain National Park. Their four year old son, Alfred Edwin Belharts, was
to vanish that day, and to this day, no sign of the young
boy has turned up. There were several strange reports of Alfred, including on
a top of a rocky inaccessible outcrop called Devil's Nest near Mount Chapin, six
miles from where he vanished. He was also reported in the company of a
mysterious man on a road in the area. The family and their father,
William Harvey, who included ten children, lived at thirty two twenty five Quebec
Street in Denver, Colorado. The Belleharts family and some friends set up camp
roughly a quarter mile west of the Fall River Lodge. It was located just
south of the west exit of the current Long Lake Trailhead parking lot. The
camping party was near where the Roaring and far Rivers met, just below Horseshoe
Falls. The family woke bright and early that morning. William Bellhartz, Alfred's
father, decided to walk to the nearby stream to worsh up, and Alfred
came along. Oron Bronson and Walter Hansen, friends of the Belhartz family,
had also set out to freshen up roughly five hundred feet upstream from Alfred and
William. William and Alfred finished their wash before Oron, Walter and William returned
to camp. Alfred walked upstream to follow Orn and Walter once they were finished.
Once Orren and Walter returned to camp, the group notices Alfred is not
with them. He had gone missing between when William returned to camp and When
Orn and Walter returned just over a mile from the trailhead, the campers began
searching for Alfred immediately. Over a dozen individuals were at the campsite, and
they were convinced that they would find him quickly. He couldn't have gotten far
in such a short amount of time, plus it would be difficult for Alfred
to not hear over a dozen people shouting his name and follow their voices back
to safety. But after scouring the area and not finding Alfred, the family
became very anxious about Alfred's whereabouts. When they had no luck, they decided
to call the Park Service for assistance. The Bellehartz family contacted Ranger Moomah at
the Fall River Ranger Station. Ranger Moomah immediately involved the CCC, the Civilian
Conservation Corps, which was a work relief program created as part of Roosevelt's New
Deal to help the search effort. Within forty five minutes, over one hundred
CCC members had arrived to begin searching. On Monday, July fourth, Independence
Day, CCC and other volunteers were still coming the area for any sign of
Alfred, and bloodhounds from the Colorado State Prison were brought into the park to
help aid the search, but they were unable to find alfred scent. The
rangers were operating under the assumption that Alfred may have fallen into the nearby Roaring
River and drowned, so they decided to dam and divert the river. On
July fifth, the search party built a dam with sandbags, rocks, and
logs, and used grappling hooks and pikes to search the riverbed. Nothing was
found in the diverted river bed despite their efforts, so they erected a wire
net near the Fall River to catch any evidence. When this returned no results,
they gave up searching the river. His parents told the rangers that they
were sure that he must have been abducted. They knew their son wouldn't just
leave his family and were skeptical that he had just fallen into the water.
By Wednesday, July sixth, the search of the river had ended, leaving
searchers frustrated and confused. They continued to search the land, and by Thursday,
two hundred searchers told news reporters that they were convinced he had never drowned
and had either gotten lost in the forest or was kidnapped. The searchers were
convinced that if the boy had fallen into the Roaring River, his body could
not have passed all five of the beaver dams and reached the Fall River.
Even if it had, they said, it could not have passed a wire
net set up near the water by workers for the Public Service Company of Colorado.
Rangers called in some sniffer dogs from the nearby Colorado State Penitentiary. A
human scent was then detected, but the hounds stopped near the river. Another
set of dogs hit on a scent some way higher in the elevation from the
camp, but led nowhere. The search was eventually called off after ten days.
That is crazy, crazy stuff. What do you think this one of
all of the ones that we've covered that I've looked in into so far,
it seemed like every time I start when I say this is one of the
craziest ones, But this one, I'm going to say the same thing.
I mean, it's I don't know what to make of this. I mean,
you didn't hit on a lot of the other weird stuff that we have
seen about this case. I don't know what to make of it. Man.
What has baffled me the most probably is the reaction of the bloodhounds,
the dogs that they brought in to track the scent. Did you hear about
that? Did you read about that? I did. They brought in this
one team of bloodhounds. It led them like five hundred feet five hundred yard
is something like that up this ridge that they could barely make it up,
and the searchers and the dogs could barely make it up. No way a
four year old boy could make it. It went up this ridge and then
the bloodhounds got to this spot and just laid down like, Okay, we're
done. This is as far as it goes. Our job here is over.
So they're thinking, oh, this is crazy. First of all,
the boy couldn't have come up here, and now they just stopped. So
there's something wrong with these dogs. Let's bring in another team. They bring
in another team of bloodhounds. They hit on the same damn trail, follow
it up the exact same way, and lay their asses down in the same
spot that the others did. So this is two completely different bloodhound teams of
bloodhounds that followed this cent trail to the exact same spot and then just stopped.
How do you explain that you can't explain it. You can't explain it.
One thing too, is the day that he went messing, there were
a couple who were hiking on that trail, the same trail where the dog's
head on, and they heard a little boy make a shrill noise, and
so they went to look over the ledge and they seen him sitting there,
and he either got up and left or something pulled him backwards. And then,
I mean, you got to think this is nineteen thirty eight. So
they go back to their car. They hear on the radio then the case
of this missing boy. They can't pull out their phone and search it up
on the internet, so they go home. They see his picture. So
then again, not being able to just pick up a phone call, they
have to go all the way back out to the place he went missing and
talked to a ranger there. But yes, it's five hundred feet on and
I have a four year old grandson, and I know one hundred percent out
of one hundred he would not be able to climb five hundred feet not only
once, but twice and be six miles away from when he went missing.
Yeah, you see, tip, I heard that same thing, but in
a different way. And this is a good example of how the telephone game
works, how the same story gets told by different people throughout the years,
and that it changes. Because the version that I heard was everything that you
just said, but it was either twenty four hours later or just a couple
hours later, and like six or seven miles away, like you said that,
this gentleman heard this kid scream, looked up another five hundred and something
feet in this place called what was it called Devil's Nest? Okay, looked
up this area of this place called Devil's Nest, and he sees this little
boy looking down at him, and the boy looks scared, and then all
of a sudden, he sees the boy jerked back away from the edge.
That's the version that I heard. So we have to think, if it
was a couple hours after he reportedly went missing, how the hell did he
get six miles away exactly by himself? He didn't. Someone took him there,
Yeah, someone took him there. And there's the family that the dad
and Alfred are washing up by the stream. And then, however, many
feet away are the family friends who were washing up by the stream. And
then you know, like I had said, he got lost somewhere in there.
But there's also a rendition of Okay, he made it back from the
stream, and the family goes out, you know, on a hike.
Well, ten children, two parents, that's twelve people. There should have
been a mom at the front and dad at the back, vice versa,
but they're both at the head of this line. Alfred's at the very back.
He is the youngest, if I'm not mistaken, of the ten,
and he's at the very back. And then they notice he's not there.
Yeah. Yeah, And I've heard reports that he had fallen behind a little
bit, and then other reports were it was just the mom, the dad
and Alfred, and Alfred was so close to her, walking behind her,
so close that she could feel him, and then all of a sudden she
turns around and he's not there. So which one is it? Yeah,
exactly, I mean either way it goes regardless of what rendition of this,
you know account you look at he was there one minute and gone next.
Yeah, and this was nineteen thirty eight. Twelve people in this family,
ten kids. As you said, a lot of times, when you hear
stuff like this, you think poverty and neglect, because if you're already poor.
How can you take care of ten miles to feed? But from everything
I heard that that wasn't the case with this family. This was a good
family. All the children were loved and taken care of, and they were
on vacation. You know, it's hard to take a family of four or
five on vacation, imagine taking twelve, right, you know, that wasn't
the case with this one. It wasn't a case of neglect in any way.
They were good parents from everything I heard. Yeah, I don't know.
There's so many things that had to have had I mean, something happened
to this boy. I don't know, it's like the perfect storm, something
came along. I don't think it was a person. I don't know.
Do you have any theories, Tiffany, Yes, yes I do, because
no, I don't think it was a person either, because regardless if Alfred
went missing after washing up of a stream or he was at the back of
the line while they were hiking, a person is going to make noise,
the child is going to make noise. So there's no way that a person
could walk up on this little boy or this family group. However, you
want to look at whichever rendition and just snatch him and be gone, And
that would be pretty fallsy. That would be pretty fassy on a person's part
to just walk up. And I mean, because you got the dad and
then the two older men who were a family member or friends of the family,
I mean, you're gonna get beat down if you try to taste it,
you know. So I don't think it was a person at all.
And there were reports later, right, like, there were sightings in different
parts of the country, and some other stuff happened. You want to touch
on that. Yeah. On July eighth, the FBI announced that it was
performing forensic tests that they found on a piece of soiled bandage that had been
found in an abandoned cabin in the same part. When that was brought to
the parents' attention, the mom said, yeah, you know, Alfred had
a blister on his foot and so she had wrapped it in similar bandages.
So, but then the same day, Miss c A Lynch, who lived
in Big Spring, Nebraska, allegedly saw Alfred and a mysterious man walking along
a highway together in Nebraska, Nebraska, six hours from Colorado. That to
me is baffling and it really does bring up questions. And she was questioned.
She's like, no, I am adamant, this is the little boy
that I saw on the paper. But I know, I don't know how
much stock I put in that though. Yeah, I don't either, because
you're looking at just a few days time. Stay tuned for more paranormal odyssey.
I don't think the boy ever left the part. I don't think he
did either. I don't think he did either. I don't think that he
was. I think she saw someone who maybe have looked similar to this boy.
I don't think it was him at all. Yeah, I just if
it were a family member that had seen out for it every day of his
life and was very familiar with him, maybe you could put more stock in
that. But just a regular person. Kids look similar, you know,
Yeah, when when you're that little, all kids kind of look alike.
Right, No, I completely agree. The cabin. The cabin, you
know, brought up some questions in my mind. Okay, I mean we're
already we're already there. We're not going to dance around the topic. I
honestly think he was snatched by Bigfoot in my opinion, but you do hear
cases. Now, this cabin was abandoned and some people will say, well,
you know, with a homeless person, snatched him up, took them
to this cabin, his bandage fell off. But you also hear reports of
Bigfoot taking you know, encampment and abandoned cabins before. Yeah, be it
from getting out of the weather or what have you. Yeah, I mean,
I'm glad you brought it up. And I wouldn't the first one to
do it, but that's the way I'm leaning. I'll I'll take the ship
if people want to give it. I'm not one of these people with Bigfoot
on the brain. It takes a lot for me to get there. And
from what we have in this case, I just I don't see many other
I don't know. I don't want to say that, because there are plenty
of things that could have happened. We've shown that before. Free freak things
happen, Freak accidents happened. But the boy being scared up on this rig
in places that he couldn't have got to on his own, that an average
man would have had a hard time doing in such a quick in such a
short amount of time, him being able to get there, seeing the little
boy jerked back violently after screaming from this left from a place that he should
not have been able to get to. It screams something like a sasquatch.
Having this kid definitely something paranormal. And to go as far as he did
in the short amount of time that he did, you know, they're quick.
I mean six miles is nothing. And then I mean a human would
have taken him. He would have then had to have, you know,
carried him for six miles and then carried him up five hundred feet and then
another five hundred A human being is not going to be able to do that
in this area. No, I wouldn't think so. I would not think
so at all. I didn't do much looking into that Devil's Nest area.
Did you look at it at all? Tiffany, Well, the only thing
I really found, you know, was was the distance and the elevation,
and you know, you put two and two together and you're like, well,
how or even why would he have the wherewithal to just go up there
alone. Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty far up there for a four year
old. And I also did research there was one hundred and twenty six sightings
in Colorado in that area for Bigfoot. Really, yes, so it lends
credence to that even being more of a possibility than before. Wow. Yeah,
I mean people are gonna hear that, and some of them are gonna
roll their eyes, like, oh my God, of course they're going with
Bigfoot. You know, I don't go with Bigfoot all the time. I
do everything I can to not make that, you know my opinion what I
think happened. But in this case, I just it seems like the perfect
opportunity. Everything you hear screams some kind of being that is capable of doing
it, And from everything we hear about Bigfoot, he is certainly capable of
doing what we're talking about and going through the area of the terrain that that
had to have been covered. It just screams Bigfoot to me. But let's
let's switch switch gears a little bit. What about the ransom. About the
ransom I did? I did in November twenty ninth, there was or November
twenty seventh, excuse me. He had been missing for five months at that
time, and his father was sent a ransom note saying, we went west.
We're out of money. This boy's not taking to us. We were
returning our son within twenty four hours. If you leave us five hundred dollars
in a can a block away from your house nineteen thirty eight. You're dealing
with the Great Depression. Five hundred dollars at that time is roughly around ten
thousand to eleven thousand dollars in twenty twenty twenty through twenty twenty four. So
that's a big chunk of money. But the ransom, they never investigated that,
They never looked into it. They assumed it to be a hoax,
and it was pretty much dead in the water before it started. Ten thousand
dollars today is a lot of money. It is, but it's doable.
I guess. My question is you have to exhaust every measure when it comes
to a child. You have to try everything. It would not have been
that difficult to gather up this money. Even if you go out to the
community and you know, ask for help. You could have raised that money.
I think put it in this coffee can ten and set it where the
person says, and just have the police sit on it and watch. Right.
You know, why didn't you at least try that. I don't understand
that for a second. If this was my child, I would do everything
in my power. I don't know why the family didn't push to do anything
about that. Did you see anything? No? No, I mean he
received that note the twenty seventh, and then it said by the twenty ninth
they were just saying, no, this is a hoax. You know.
They investigated two possible suspects that the sus effects were not named. They were
never charged. Like I said, it was just pretty much dead in the
water. But it's just like when the couple saw him the same day he
went missing. Now there are time gaps, so it doesn't tell us exactly
when the times were that he was seen, as you know, compared to
Wayne went missing. But when the couple went back to the park to talk
to the ranger, you know, he was gonna dismiss it as well by
saying there's no way that this little boy is at the top of that rock
cropping. He was totally just gonna dismiss it. But they did end up
sending one hundred and fifty people up there to search, but they struggled to
get up there and there wasn't anything there. So no sign of this boy
has ever been found. Nothing, nothing, in eighty eighty five years eight.
How does that happen? People? It is it's it's baffling. And
that's what I said. You know, there's there's gonna be so many questions.
There's gonna be more questions and answers. But this is stuff that I
think having the technology that we have nowadays, like the DNA, the cameras,
you know, the fleers, you know, we need to start using
those. And why are we not hearing about the thousands of these cases that
are going on in these national parks? That's another great question. Yeah,
why are they just setting on all of this information? Are they afraid that
people won't come? That has to be has to have to play a part
in it. I think, Tiffany, when I started looking into this stuff,
I was worried about having enough content. But the more you look,
the more you find. I've been looking into this stuff for months and I'm
just now hearing about this Alfred kid and you found it and one that sent
it to me, And it's probably the most disturbing and baffling and just weird
that we've covered to date. And it just makes you wonder how many more
are out there? Right? Yeah, exactly. And it's not just you
know, children that we're coming across. I mean, these are the most
baffling of the ones that have been found so far. But there's adults that
go missing under the same circumstances, miles and miles and miles away from where
they should be. Not just adults. We're talking adults whose passion and hobby
is hiking and camping and being outdoors. They are not new at this,
and they're disappearing. Yeah, what is going on in our national parks?
And why are we not being told really, really good questions. It's troubling
as hell, it is. People, watch your kids when you go places
like this, Keep keep your eyes on them. Don't let them get too
far away. The Scarlet just turned three. My daughter and I have other
kids as well. I've been blessed that nothing has happened to them throughout their
life. I thank God for that every day. I really do. That's
not just a saying I do. I pray and I thank God every single
day that my kids are here and healthy and nothing like this has ever happened.
But this stuff happens. The kids disappear. You turn your head for
a second and one can get gone. And it's not just them falling off
a cliff or stepping in a hole or something like that. Something is taking
them. I believe something is taking these kids in the woods. Please keep
an eye on your children, if you think about it. Billions of people
every year, not billions, millions of people every year visit these parks,
not just national parks, but like state parks, state forest recreation areas.
Millions of people in the US North America visit these things, and it's only
a small handful that something like this happens, just a very small number,
but it still happens. It can happen to you. Just keep an eye
on your kids and thank God that you still have them every chance you get.
Absolutely, I concur it is one of those things that just you want
to take your family out to have a good time. You know, you
never expect to not make it back home with every single family member. And
that would be so gut wrenching. That is something that I would never want
to leave because they weren't found. I would want to continuously search every single
second that I could just got can the mat I can't imagine going on vacation
with your little one and then having to go home without him or her.
Yes, the thought is, the thought is governing I don't know. That's
probably a good spot for us to close this one out. Yeah, just
just heartbreaking. If you guys have any suggestions, As I just mentioned a
couple of minutes ago, there's so many of these cases we have not heard
of them all. Obviously, there's many out there. If you guys know
of any that you're interested in, If there are any that stick out to
you that have bothered you over the years that you would like us to maybe
put a couple of fresh eyes on, a couple sets of eyes on and
dig into a little bit, please send them our way. You can get
Tippany at Tiffany at Paranormal World Productions dot com and get me at Wayne at
Paranormal World Productions dot com. It was September of twenty eleven in the Mount
Shasta area, a place called Fowler's Campground near McLeod River in northern California,
where one of the craziest stories you will ever hear took place. We're going
to go with the name John Doe for a couple of reasons here. The
parents decided to do this for a couple of reasons, the boy's age,
for one, and to protect the family's anonymity. You can't blame them for
either one of those. I mean, he was three and a half years
old. They were camping, and as happens more times than should we've all
heard a thousand times, the boy was here one minute and gone the next.
That was pretty much the quote from the father. He was here and
then he wasn't. Within an hour of the little fella going missing, there
were over one hundred people from all these different agencies that were out looking for
him. They really really got on it quick. To their credits, it
was about five hours into the search when a Shaff's deputy with a canaine was
out looking and he actually stumbled across the boy. He was out looking and
he heard coming from underneath this bush. He heard some cries and a little
voice saying help. So, to his shock his amazement, he looked under
there and he sees the little guy. Stay tuned for more paranormal Odyssey,
and as you can imagine, he's just ecstatic, so happy as any of
us would be, because a lot of the times these things do not turn
out that well, but it had in this case. So scooped him up
and ran back to the campground to reunite little John Doe with his parents.
He was never questioned by authorities. I mean, why would he be three
and a half years old. This was a happy ending. Everything worked out.
Everyone came in, did their jobs and saved this little guy's life.
What point would anyone what point would it have made to talk to this guy?
So he wasn't questioned at that time. It was about three weeks later
and little John was visiting his grandma. He had a grandma Kathy, but
he called her Cappy. So he's over there visiting and he tells Cappy that
he doesn't like the other grandma Cappy and this kind of catches her off guard.
No, as it would any of us. So I'm the only Grandma
Cappy you have. Who are you talking about? He went on to tell
her that when he went missing, it was because the other Grandma Cappy grabbed
him up and took him off to the creepy place, and that grandma,
the other Grandma Cappy, was really a robot. He went on to say
that he was taken to this cave where there were guns, purses, and
other bags. This was a creepy cave, he said. All this stuff
was covered in dirt and cobwebs and spiders and just not a fun place.
He said. What made him think that the other Grandma Cappy was a robot
was how the lights would sparkle off of her face. This is what made
him think that something was off. He also said that there were other robots
in the cave, but these weren't moving or talking. It's like they were
frozen in place, and they all had distorted, messed up faces. What
is going on in this cave? John said. The other Cappy seemed nice
at first until she examined his stomach, and then after examining his stomach,
she hands him this sticky piece of paper and as if it wasn't weird enough,
guys, she hands him this sticky piece of paper and tells him to
poop on it. To actually defecate on this sticky piece of paper, as
it would anybody. Freaked him right the hell out. I'm sure he started
crying. He couldn't do it, and this upset Fake Capy and the next
thing you know, he's being led out of the cave and a short distance
away, he's told by Fake Capi to get under that bush and lay there
and he'll be safe. Someone will find him, and then she just went
away. So she goes away, and he does what she says, He
lays under there, and this is inevitably where he was found by the officer.
Some however, many hours later, as you can imagine, all this
stuff is just running through Kapy's mind. What is going on with this kid?
She calls his parents and she's upset. She says, what are you
letting this child watch? What kind of TV shows and movies is he watching?
His imagination is running wild. And she told the parents what John told
her, and the parents told her, Please don't push him, don't say
anything else to him, don't ask him any more questions about it. He
told us this right after he returned. We know about all of this.
Please just leave him alone about it. Drop it. We want him to
forget. We don't want this to be something that he ends up needing therapy
for some tragic event that he just can't forget. So for everyone's sake,
please just drop it. We know all about it. We want him to
forget. What really troubled Cappy the most, though, was something that happened
to her just a few weeks before the disappearance. She and a friend had
been camping in the exact same area, and she had something weird happened to
her. She claims that she woke up one morning, face down in the
dirt with this puncture mark in the back of her neck. Now, I
read somewhere else another a different article that said that she was physically dragged out
of her tent. Now, I don't know if she remembered being drug out
of the tent or she just assumed that she was drug out of the tent
because she went to sleep in the tent. Either way, she woke up
face down in the dirt with this hole in her neck. She could not
help but think that these two things were related. I mean, you would
have to think it. I mean, what are the chances that it's not.
I mean, you're camping, we have this crazy thing happened to you
that I'm sure you just want to forget, nothing come of it, You're
fine. And then in the same area, your grandson goes missing. Luckily
he's found, thank God, he's returned unharmed. And then you hear this
crazy ass story. Why would you not think that they were somehow connected.
I mean, I certainly do a lot of you, some of you that
have heard this before, probably heard it on the Coast to Coast AM it
was featured over there. Other people have talked about it. It seemed vaguely
familiar to me, and I didn't really remember all the details. Like I
said, it happened in twenty and eleven, so what's thirteen years ago?
What the hell? Dude, my god, what do you make of this
story? Is? I'm not a psychologist, obviously psychiatrist don't even claim to
be one on TV. But is this like a defense mechanism? I mean,
did he come up with this theory, this stories idea, and it's
had to help him cope with the hours of being gone? I mean he's
only gone for five hours. Granted that probably seemed like a really really long
time to him, especially to his parents that had to have seen luck forever.
But did he just come up with this story in his head and now
it's fact to him. I don't know. I don't know if stuff like
that's even possible. I do know that this one had a happy ending,
so many have not. The other cases that that we've covered before this did
not have happy endings. The three cases we covered before were also children,
and they not only did not come back. They were never found. One
of the last ones we did is to be like eighty five eighty three years
that this kid's been missing, so we have that he has that going for
him. He was found and that's that's awesome. That's amazing. Guys,
watch your kids. I've said it before, keep them right beside you when
you're out in these places. We all enjoy taking our kids, taking our
family out in nature, but we just we have to be so careful.
Kids are so inquisitive and things new to them and they want to do everything.
We just as parents we have to be careful that. I'm glad,
Like I said, I'm glad that this one worked out for the best.
And if you guys have anything that any comments, anything, any cases that
have stuck with you over the years that you heard a long time ago that
just bothered you or disturbed you that that you just want someone else to look
into, I would love to do that for you. Send me an email
to Wayne at Paranormalworldproductions dot com, or if you would rather talk to Tiffany,
you can get her at Tiffany at Paranormal World Productions dot com. We
are loving the hell out of doing these missing persons cases. I mean,
they're they're tragic, they're horrible, most of them, but people need to
be talking about them. Something's going on. It just seems seems like something's
going on in our forests of North America, and we gotta talk about it.
So that's what we are doing, all right, guys, until we
see y'all again. Y'all take care of yourselves and take care of each other.
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