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Isn't this fun? Friars Day night? We are live the Ocelly effect.

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That's right. And I went to
air about eleven minutes late. I guess

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according to that clock, and it
is December eighth, twenty twenty three,

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allegedly according to that thing we call
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live. We're gonna take your calls. I tried to put out a call

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to action on social media. I
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we got the word out there.
I am live. We have been live

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all week. Uh and it it. You know, it wasn't the most

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spectacular week so far, but don't
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wilder as we go. So taking
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so that we can get onto the
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between January and April. Hoping that
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do op ed pieces, will do
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We're printing articles on the front page
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podcasts at other times not I'm not
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not yet. Hopefully I won't be
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are not being represented, you got
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come to me. Let's see about
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So there it is. I come
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the number, recap a couple of
things, so on and so forth,

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and I'll tell you the truth.
Right before I went to air, I

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had one of those circumstances where you
ever, you ever, just like you

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get up to go do something,
you have a mission in mind, you

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uh, you start to go do
it, and everything seems to work against

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you. Stuff falls off of shelves, sings, slip, drinks, spill

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dog's bark, stuff breaks. I
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you getting at your task. That
is what I was confronted with, just

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getting to the microphone and sitting down
and calling Bpete. As a matter of

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fact, the computer I use for
phone calls crashed, So now I'm on

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my backup setup for phone calls.
But they are working, and I do

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see we have a caller. We'll
get to them right away, but first

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I gotta let my co host speak
at least for a few minutes till we

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get straight into your calls and hopefully
we'll be so busy with your calls tonight

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you won't have to hear anything else
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Anyway, that's the way. It
is still going against the idea of presenting

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my opinions or my viewpoints on the
Friday night show. I want to hear

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from you guys. I want to
hear from my co host. I want

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to hear from regulars. And it
would be great to get some brand new

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callers. A matter of fact,
if a brand new caller hits us and

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is an actual listener to the network
tonight and would like a prize just for

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doing that, I'll send you a
mystery gift in the mail. How about

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that? Because I have to arrange
a bunch of mailings to go out at

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the end of the year beginning of
a year here, because we're about done

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with twenty twenty three, and I
owe a couple of people some hats.

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I think I owe a few people
some other things that were not delivered thus

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more so, you know, a
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the mail, et cetera. And
one person told me to wait until they

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were going to be home or something
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had the rest of that conversation.
Anyway, I'm going to go back over

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it. And if you have been
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the swag, let me know.
I have a fair list of who I

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think was missed, but I may
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ocelly dot com or blind jfk Researcher
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that you didn't get something, and
I will gladly get it out. Now.

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I know that I've got two hats
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Unknowns ladies. I know that for
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them. And anybody who does make
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also going to be noted as an
executive producer each time I do a show

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and there's a recent donation or whatever
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going to go on, and that's
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of December and into twenty twenty four. So there you have it. Let's

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note that tonight Mike Swanson is the
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and see if there's anybody else I
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think there is somebody else I missed, because we do require bits of help

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here and there from anybody who can
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to support the show with getting yourself
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et cetera. And in January,
we're gonna mail out to every Steady supporter

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the archive in installments. You'll get
zip folders and you'll get the first decade

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of the Ocelly Effect my podcast.
The podcast I produced, guest spots other

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stuff recorded over the first decade of
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gonna do that throughout the twenty four
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to look forward to besides the latest
scandal. Uh geez, Republican debate.

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I roll my eyes at this because
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et cetera, but not today's news
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on my feet and knocking things off
the shelves and breaking stuff and doing other

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things around the house to get to
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I'm gonna hear it from my co
host, see what he's got, and

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also hear from you guys. One
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five, two, seven, five, zero one six call in be

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part of the show. You will
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talk about. And hopefully I don't
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or anything tonight. So anyway,
bpete, with all of that now having

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come out of my mouth and be
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put you to sleep yet, I
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But here we are. How are
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Doing pretty good. It's it's been
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freezing on butts off up here all
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bit today, so get a bunch
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are going to bottom out again,
be in the fifties of the days.

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It's that song of year when there's
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month park at four point thirty and
the things will start picking up after the

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first of the year. But other
than that, we're just trying to get

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the job wrapped up before we close
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hectic. But reading the news today, trying to catch up on some things.

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I heard you mentioned the eight Sure
not. CNN has announced that they're

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going to have two debates for the
republicansikes, so they're not over with you

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yet. Yeah, and I wonder
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to see if you qualify to be
on the debate. You know, they've

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been whittling them down based on based
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else was it? Oh, percentage
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down so far. But we were
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was four. CNN will open it
bocked up. Yeah, hang on a

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second, because you're going a little
robotics, So just uh hang back for

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a minute and see if it builds
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little better, your transmission works better. But just to cap something you're talking

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about while we wait, Yeah,
this last debate, there was four people

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on the stage from what I could
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I did look at some images afterwards. It appears to me as though there

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was only four people on the stage. I mean, just because I didn't

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hear from them doesn't mean they weren't
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with those massive debates, you couldn't
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it looked to me like Chris Christy, Nicki Haley you know Dysantis, right,

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and who was the final one there? Uh Rami Swami? Okay,

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And yeah, interesting News Nation ran
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the c W, which I found
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gotta say they kind of put some
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didn't let it get too far out
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although there was some you know,
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People went after a few things there
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Sounded like to me Nicki Haley personally
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claiming others were liars and everything else, just constantly saying, well, I

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did this in Florida, and I
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stuff flying back and forth, and
Chris Christie somehow, I don't know how

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krispy Kreme, Governor chrispy Kreme of
New Jersey has continued to survive in this

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equation regardless. I mean, does
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booed constantly. Yeah, go ahead
and Pete, now, let's see if

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your sound is better. I think
I was just as sad. I think

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Christy the only reason he qualifies is
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was running in the past. You
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some money. But he's just he's
there's the anti Trump boil. I mean,

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that's the only purpose he's serving,
you know. So he's just kind

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of out there and you know,
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You know, we've got we're down
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and the number one contender supposedly isn't
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Yeah, and there he is.
You know, Christy was kind of

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funny. Made one comment. He
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convicted of a felony, the funny
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vote in some states where he might
be eligible to vote otherwise. If he's

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convicted of a felony, that would
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going to happen. You're good.
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in North Carolina. I think we
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the rule past the law a couple
of years ago that people that were out

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on parole could vote. She had
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you can't vote in prison, and
if you're a felon, I think

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you get that back now once you
get out and get off parole. If

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you're a felon, you get your
right to vote. That well, in

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Jersey, you couldn't vote the time. In Jersey, you couldn't vote.

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And you also weren't allowed state licenses
for many years of any kind. If

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there was an a license issued by
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my my first stepfather couldn't have a
license to be You had to have a

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license to be a barber for some
reason in certain places, and you couldn't

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get that issued if you had a
felony conviction, because that was his big

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complaint is that he would have been
a barber instead of the dope dealer arm

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robber that he was. So you
know, it's just it's to have something

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fall back on. It is it
is, you know, and apparently,

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I mean, look, one was
way more. I mean, haircuts are

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not as lucrative as heroin, so
you know, it was what it was.

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But anyway, no, I find
it interesting for sure. Uh the

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debate was, you know, but
it was kind of I don't know what

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you thought of it all together.
But I say we start to go to

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the callers. We've got one waiting
on the line. I'm hoping more will

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join him, but I'm fairly certain
this guy's got something to say about the

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debates if you don't mind. But
before we get too deep into the show,

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I want you to uh also hopefully
your your transmission will continue to improve,

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because I want to get to the
Hunter Biden story that you sprung on

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me, because I was totally unaware
that there was any movement in that case

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until you told me, because,
like I said, I was too busy

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breaking stuff and stubbing my toes to
uh watch the news today. But anyway,

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let's let's get to the caller.
We got Harlan on the line,

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and Uh, you're up first this
time. Harlan. What's happening? What's

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on your mind this week? It
feels good to be number one, well

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much better than number two in a
lot of people's books or toilets. Yeah,

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are in their mouth, Yeah,
on their platform. Yeah, what's

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going on the Yes, I watched
the debates other than that, and it

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seemed like it was probably the best
rand one that we've had so far.

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Or CNN's supposed to be waiting to
see if the GOP will of offer as

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the other say debates. I did
say that. Yeah, I don't know

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why they wouldn't, though, Harlan, because here's the thing. They had

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one on NBC, you know,
Lester Holt was literally part of the equation

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at one point, so why not
do it on CNN. I don't think

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CNN is more of an enemy to
the GOP than than MSNBC is I mean,

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unless I miss something, Although I
got to give it to News Nation,

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I did not expect them to be
the the better Uh you know,

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what do you call that? Facilitators? You know, I didn't expect them

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to run the tighter ship, you
know, because they're they're a fairly new

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entity in the news business, et
cetera. And they were partnered up with

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the CW, so it actually might
have gone out on what is digital broadcast

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TV. And uh, indeed they
did run a much tighter debate than anybody

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else has so far, I think
even Fox Right. Yeah, I mean,

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it just seemed like it just overall
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a better job, and like they
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them the desk if they went just
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That's what it seemed like to me. But I thought overall, it

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was just a lot better platform and
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maybe they was trying to get noticed. You know, out of the crowd

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were Fox and MSNBC and CNN is
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of the coin. You know,
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and even though news Nation identifies itself
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right, the odd thing was they
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couple of wicked, uncomfortable questions towards
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but she went to Swami to say, hey, you know what, you're

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even turning around and doing the whole
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or whatever. I forget what her
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of her as Nicki Haley. But
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based on this what is with that
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entity would not want to touch that
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you going to hit doing that?
Asking the Indian guy if he's shaming the

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woman for being an Indian? Right? I mean, oh, what are

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we doing here? Uh? And
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little bit too, a little more
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What was your thoughts on that?
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said, they did pretty good.
They nailed h Krispy Kreme? Is you

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cowing down on his comments on the
general mutilation of the young children? And

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he didn't really have nowhere to go
just at their nichiep rad you know,

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some left wing bullshit. I don't
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go over and run with go Biden
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think that's the left wingist his position? I got a question for you and

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b Peter definitely to the right of
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you guys. How is it that
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preferred position at this time on that
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because normally the conservative element would say
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making decisions about their children. Now, I know the idea is, okay,

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this is abuse to allow for this, you know, sex change operations

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and the use of hormones and all
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there's other things that go on with
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as well. Cream you know,
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think was consistent here with what I
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is that parents do have the right
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even if the population disagrees with it. That should usually take supremacy unless there's

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a direct See. Now there's where
the problem comes in. Probably is what

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you guys are going to tell me. But I wonder from each of you

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real quick. Let me ask me
Pete about it and go back to you

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if you don't mind Harlan on this, because it was weird to me.

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Did you catch that part of it? Be Pete? The whole thing with

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Krispy Kreme there and the sex change, the sex reassignment stuff. Now is

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he against it? Well not.
What he's saying is no, he doesn't

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like it, but the government should
not be involved in that decision. It

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should be between you know, like
in other words, the parents get to

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say what happens to the children,
not the government, is the general position

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he was taking. So question is
isn't that the normal standard for a conservative

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position, although there is an augment
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another statement after it. But isn't
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position where even when it came to
spanking, when it came to you know,

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corporal punishment, when it came to
various things here that other people said,

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oh, the states should get involved
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a democrat wants the state to intervene
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their children. And he's saying that
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but me gets to say what happens
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the way that the government's attitude is
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So it's a thing, what do
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I don't know if you could call
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most people they call themselves concer servatives. The parent has a choice.

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However, there are some relics.
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I'm going to come back to you. Sorry, be Pete, you're getting

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interrupted by Harlan's noise, but go
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there are some members of the Republican
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involved. And the reason that they
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government agencies in that that are mandating
certain things take place. So, you

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know, you you've got to get
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to get the government in it deeper
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that the parents have a right to
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you know, But you've got you've
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you've got child services that all are
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got you've got some municipalities that have
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can happen. You know, you
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the best interests of the child,
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fighting government to keep them from doing
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It's getting to be real sticky.
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didn't have fifteen years ago. This
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the forefront of everything. Now,
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transgenders that there are in the population, they seem to be getting a lot

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of attention for things that they want
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they're they're a sliver of a minority, and they're being pushed to the

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front of the agenda when it comes
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it neither. Just write it off
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that soup for a second and ask
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because generally speaking, I thought that
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thing. I hate it. By
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I stand on the side of well, hang on a second. Yes,

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I don't want to keep on this
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else to compare it for a second. Because here's the thing. I would

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normally say that a parent makes that
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say, look, If you expose
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you're abusing them. If you expose
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adult in nature too early, you're
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which I don't utilize very much myself, but I have utilized it,

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okay in the raising of my children. I don't think that the government has

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a right to come in and take
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a difference between discipline and abuse,
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I'm not all for just the you
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all right. You know, although
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I think that that is more or
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right, and most times I would
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parents in almost all cases. I
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services. And you know, in
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These people would get involved and literally
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They would take them away from you
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happened due to a you know,
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you lose track of your kid in
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your child, you know, stuff
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government, government needs to get the
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hang on, government needs to get
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that out. Indeed, there are
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is it at all times something that
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I think there's been too much of
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by the left. And here's the
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more conservative elements say, look,
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because this is a form of abuse
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It is the same argument. It's
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same argument. This is a parent
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and protect the child. Right.
That is literally the same position that a

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liberal takes when it comes to one
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Maybe, but still it's weird to
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Krispy Kreme basically is standing by what
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conservative position, which is, parents
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be involved. Whether it's sex education, it's uh, you know, exposure

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to a chemical substances, it's training
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anything else in the world. Uh, the government is not the arbiter of

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what is appropriate and what is not
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on behalf of the child. I
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defaults to the nanny state, that
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knows better than that. And well, but that's why you have certain elements

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in the in the Republican Party that
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Because it's worked its way down to
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passing resolutions and rules about keeping from
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to a counselor and says, I'm
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I'm in the process of transitioning to
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pronouns and I want this, and
I want that, and the school basically

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hides it from the parents. It's
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government to get involved to keep things
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from happening. Right. Well,
it's just a big spiral. Yeah,

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it's going to continue down. Well, parents don't have it's no longer.

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Parents don't have the absolute right anymore. That's been taken away from them for

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quite some time, right, And
I don't know that you're going to be

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able to revert back to that.
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with you. But here's the thing. It's dozens of circumstances where this has

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already occurred. When it comes to
abortion. You know what, parents don't

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have a right to know in a
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drugging kids, they'll turn around and
say, you can't even send your kids

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to school unless they're properly drugged because
they had a behavior problem. We've evaluated

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their psychological risk to themselves, to
other people. They're a problem. They

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need to be drugged, they need
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and induced chemicals into kids that screw
up their brains plenty already. And tell

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you the truth, most of the
liberals were just fine with that government involvement

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there to push drugs down their throats. Government involvement there to hide abortion,

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government involvement there. And I understand
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I've seen some negative things happen when
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they don't get a chance to take
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might lose a lot of things,
and their parents, you know, throw

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them on the street and things like
this. It happens. I get it,

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I get the philosophy, But again
and again, I feel like it's

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already been done this way. Now, what the conservative element is asking here

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for to intervene, to have the
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the opposite side of the equation has
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three decades, pushing psychotropic drugs,
pushing psychological solutions, pushing legal solutions

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onto kids through the school systems,
through the localists, and that, and

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turning around and saying, we can't
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in the school unless you drug them, unless you have them with yet psychiatric

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evaluations, unless they've been hospitalized,
unless they've been put through this that third

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thing. Psychological evaluations and labels have
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learning disabilities or it's for emotional disabilities, et cetera, et cetera. And

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now they're confronted with this problem because
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ridiculously amplified because, as you point
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not even a minority, really a
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focused on here. And yet we
find reverse positions, like I said,

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where the people that normally I think
would say what you know, Krispy Kreme

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is saying, you know, Governor
Christie, what he's normally saying is that,

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you know, parents should make those
decisions. Yeah, that's the way

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it stood thirty years ago, but
that is no longer viable position. Yeah,

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but to a degree, you could
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fallacy because we're never going to go
back to the point. You know,

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Conservatives basically believe in smaller government.
The less the government interferes with my daily

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life, the better, right,
and that goes for everything from your local

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municipality to your school boards to the
federal government and the craft that they have

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to put up with. Yep,
those days are over. There's no unless

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you completely overhaul our system of electing
people to represent us outside of the two

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parties, well one party, the
uniparty. Until that happens, it's not

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going to change. So, you
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know, likes that position. He
feels that's the best one where the parents

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make the decisions. You know,
good luck to that, because thank god

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I don't have any kids. I
haven't had to go through this, because

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I probably would have been in jail
a thousand times just over the craft that

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the school system is dumping on kids
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there, before the grace of God, go I because I don't have to

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have that battle. It's impossible.
I feel sorry for anybody that has to

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raise kids today because of the amount
of craft that they have to put up

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with from government about their kids.
Exactly. I'll tell you one of the

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great one of the best improvements for
me from moving, you know, from

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up north from a purple or bluish
state to a red state. Let me

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00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.680
tell you what the biggest improvement was
for me is that, indeed, people

409
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:47.799
got the hell out of my business
a lot more in general, So in

410
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:52.720
the bluer state, in the purpleish
state of Jersey, in the blue state

411
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.200
of New York, and the purple
state of Jersey. All right, guess

412
00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.319
what people got in your business.
You had a snitch based culture up there

413
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:04.319
where you know, even if your
kid didn't do anything legally wrong, if

414
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.720
they offended a neighbor. The next
thing you know is you're being investigated by

415
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:12.200
a state agency. And if they
help to turn up criminal things, you

416
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.960
know, they'll turn around and find
you know, you have a gun charge.

417
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.720
They'll catch you with a bag of
weed before they legalized weed in Jersey.

418
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.440
They'll catch you with a bag of
weed because they're checking in on a

419
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.400
child abuse allegation. You'll wind up
getting charged because they were digging into you

420
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:32.279
to protect your child in quotes right, You'll wind up getting charged for that,

421
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:36.079
or they'll find out you have an
illegal hookup to something or whatever else.

422
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:40.799
They'll bust you and wind up running
a search on you based on your

423
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:42.759
you know need. You know they're
there, they can just walk right in

424
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:47.240
there. And half the time these
are social workers, not even law enforcement

425
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:51.240
people who grab lawd enforcement people back
of the mouth. And I'm just saying

426
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:55.440
that that's one element here that's crazy. So go ahead, Well, there's

427
00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:00.839
there's been a recent development in California
that kind of shows how ridiculous the whole

428
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:06.319
thing is. Gotten. They now
have regulations in place covering toy stores or

429
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.359
any stores like Walmart, they sell
toys, okay that you now have to

430
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:17.240
have a gender neutral toy section,
gender neutral toy section for toys, or

431
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:23.519
you face fines and your business license
could be pulled. That's how ridiculous it's

432
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:28.720
gotten. So when you set up
your toy display in Walmart, you know,

433
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:31.200
you can't group all this stuff together
where the good It's like shopping.

434
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:35.720
You go down this aisle for men's
stuff, you go down this aisle for

435
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.640
women's stuff. You go down this
aisle for girls stuff. You go down

436
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:42.160
this aisle for boy stuff. You
can't do that in the toy section anymore.

437
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.640
You cannot separate things. And I'm
sure they're going to get the clothing

438
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:50.599
here before it's too long. But
that's how big government has crept it.

439
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.000
Yeah, they're going to have to. If you can't sell hot wheels to

440
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:59.799
boys and barbies to girls, you
know, then god forbid you sell you

441
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:02.759
know, pants to a boy or
a skirt. You're gonna have to have

442
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:07.920
skirts in the boys section. Now. It's just crazy, but that's how

443
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:14.079
this thing has snowballed, and government
has found its way to stick its tentacle

444
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:19.599
into every little aspect that they can
I mean, it's just typical of how

445
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:22.160
ridiculous has gotten. So look,
Harlan is held on. We lost another

446
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.720
caller, but call back in,
dude, because I want to get around

447
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:29.720
everybody's view on this. Please kick
in, because I'm just trying to throw

448
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:31.079
it on the table as best I
can, and I want people to think

449
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:37.000
about this aspect. Because I was
listening to Governor Christy and saying to myself,

450
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.480
as much as I hate to admit
this, that I agree with him.

451
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:44.640
That is the way it should be. It's nice to hear from politicians

452
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:51.440
sometimes things that should be Bpete points
out, though it's absolutely not legitimately realistic

453
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.960
at this point because of the point
we're at. I mean, you're telling

454
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:58.279
me that the whole controversy a couple
of years ago about whether they can make

455
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.039
mister and missus potato head anymore or
now we need a I don't know they

456
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:07.880
them potato head because you gotta have
generor neutrality has to be represented in a

457
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.760
toy store. I mean, you
know, you just have to have you

458
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.360
just need to have a potato with
pronouns. With pronouns, well, can

459
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:20.239
you stick a different pronoun on it? Like along with the hat and the

460
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:23.880
mustache and stuff. Is that a
possibility? Well, they may have to

461
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:31.199
change it from mister and missus potato
head to what is sis? Sis?

462
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:36.519
Would? Okay? Cis gender means
you're like what we used to call normal

463
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:40.039
this potatoes versus well, what would
you call a trans potato? That's what

464
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:44.639
I'm trying to figure out is what
is the right term because they you know,

465
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.199
their pronoun is they and then right, so they're not a he or

466
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:52.199
pato people potato people. Yeah,
it can't be a mister or missus potato

467
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.760
head. It would have to be
potato people. Is people acceptable anymore?

468
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:59.559
Because you don't know, there's people
like, you know, anti species is

469
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:04.039
I'm serious because there are people out
there that say, well, actually I'm

470
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.159
this different species. I'm just doing
a human form at the moment, and

471
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:08.719
I go, yeah. The Indians
talked about that too, and they said

472
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:13.639
that was a spirit animal. But
they weren't stupid enough to believe that that

473
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.480
was actually them. They were just
channeling the spirit. Do you to,

474
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:22.000
well, do you have to segregate
out the perthy potatoes? Well, there

475
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:28.880
you go. The birth giving potato
is not necessarily man or woman or male

476
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:32.559
or female, even though male and
female are more agricultural or you know,

477
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:37.599
what do you call it animal husbandry
terms? They're actually not for humans.

478
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.320
But okay, man or woman?
No, no good? What is the

479
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.840
they them? What is the other? Oh that's right, there's twenty six

480
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:49.679
choices now right, But what is
it? Is it A? Is it

481
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:52.079
a Z? You know, at
one point somebody said he should be a

482
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:55.360
Z. And if you did make
it a Z and say anything other than

483
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:59.760
the he or the she is now
a Z. No, I don't make

484
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:02.920
it a Z because the British people
say Z and it just sounds stupid.

485
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.239
Oh yeah, okay, so instead
of you know, mister and missus and

486
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:12.199
Z, it would be Z.
Like if you, if it was you

487
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:14.800
would be zed be pete. Right, what the hell does that? I

488
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:16.760
guess if you were a post,
if you were a past potato, it

489
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:23.079
would be said by old by old
British standards and all these things that happened

490
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:27.639
to be or stuffed off your ass
your ass, yes, of course,

491
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:30.400
all right, then let's go back
to Harland, who's still on the phone.

492
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:35.559
And by the way, let's have
Jimmy James call back in because I'm

493
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:38.599
as certain that Jimmy James might have
a few viewpoints to offer on this particular

494
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:46.440
issue. Okay, Harland, you're
back on the line. Well, since

495
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:51.320
it's just me, uh give me
a little play here and I'll give you

496
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:55.400
my opinion about this. Please do
first of all, before we move on,

497
00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:04.920
I won't talk about just real quickly
about ram Swammy and his use of

498
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:12.320
Leo khon Nicky is you know,
given Indian name, mister pharmaceutical billionaire.

499
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:15.400
You know, back in the day
over in East Tennessee, some of us

500
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:20.320
would have said his Indian name was
you know, Forkid Needle. Yeah.

501
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:22.800
Because he's telling one lie or another
and he's four something that he's against it,

502
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.119
he hates Trump and I was kissing
his ass all this having. Besides

503
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:31.760
that, I'm gonna move on this
whole thing. What a lot of people's

504
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:38.119
talking about. I'm talking about the
mainstream people on this, these young people

505
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:43.000
and this gentle little mutilation and this
tran stuff. I don't think there's that

506
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:47.480
many people is ready to have a
fit because little Johnny's, you know,

507
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:53.559
wearing a dress or whatever. But
you know, a parent cannot give you

508
00:37:53.639 --> 00:38:00.599
a beer if you're under twenty one. Any kind of alcohol, of drugs

509
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.360
about you know, severe failing these
in a lot of cases, right and

510
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:09.000
severe you know, reconcussions from what
I understand, or you know, several

511
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:13.440
years ago. I don't know about
now, but a parent cannot you know,

512
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:19.960
sim Oh, Harlan might have hung
up on himself there. I want

513
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.719
you guys to know. I did
not cut him off. Uh, he

514
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.800
just suddenly disappeared from the line.
But look, Harlan or anybody else listening.

515
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:29.480
Three one nine, five, two
seven, five zero one six,

516
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:35.119
I literally have ninety nine open lines, so you guys can join in.

517
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.360
Oh, but he was a good
thing there, Yeah, go ahead.

518
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:47.280
Nicky Haley's given middle name is Nicky. So we went through this back when

519
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:53.880
one of the Sunny whatever name is
hosting on the view made a disparaging comment

520
00:38:54.440 --> 00:39:00.599
about Nicky Haley not using her real
name. Well, her real name is

521
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:06.119
Nicki. Her first name is Nimarata, her middle name is Niki, her

522
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:10.519
maiden name is rond Halla, and
her married name is Haley. So she

523
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:15.519
goes by a given name. I
don't know why people still have this thing

524
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.039
about Oh, she's not Indian enough
because she goes by Nicki. Well,

525
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:23.079
her mother named her that, so
give her a break. Yeah, Nikki

526
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:28.719
n I kk I is part of
her regular name. You know, she's

527
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:32.800
one of those people with what looks
like two middle names. Well only because

528
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.039
she's married. And no, she
doesn't have two middle names. Her name

529
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.679
is her married Before she got married, her name was Nimurata Nikki Randhawa.

530
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:47.639
Okay, when she got married it
she still goes by the Niki. Yeah,

531
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:52.599
her married name is Hailey, so
she knows she's She did one of

532
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.239
those very liberal things where you know, you could hyphenate or you could add

533
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.199
right to the names, her husband's
name, and she took her husband's name

534
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:05.960
and added it as opposed to removing
the what they would call a maiden name.

535
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:08.199
Probably none of this stuff is politically
correct that I'm saying right now.

536
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:13.079
But his wife she always went by
her middle name. She didn't like her

537
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.800
first name, so her whole life
she was known as her middle name.

538
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:20.760
So you know, it's not uncommon
for people to go by their middle name

539
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:22.679
because they don't like their first name. Right, No, that happens.

540
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:28.599
I've known plenty of people where like
there was one guy one of my stepfathers.

541
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:30.400
Again, I could point you very
easily. He went by the name

542
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:37.000
Rick. His actual name was Eric, but he just people called him Rick.

543
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:42.079
Look, people call me Chuck.
That's not my legal name. But

544
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:46.039
at one point, you know,
somebody tried calling me by my middle name.

545
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:51.639
I didn't like it, so I
didn't go with it. But you

546
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:55.599
know, it's just a thing.
I mean, I don't get it,

547
00:40:55.679 --> 00:41:00.639
except that there are people that say
what she's doing is being ashamed of her

548
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:07.199
background by not acknowledging her first name. But like you said, it could

549
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:08.920
very easily be I mean, look, missus Zoe, I call her kim

550
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:14.239
Technically speaking, it's Kimberly, which, by the way, there are men

551
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:17.559
named Kimberly, which I find very
odd. But you know, in today's

552
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:21.920
society, God help us. I
mean, who knows what could happen there.

553
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.320
But Harlan appears to be back,
so I want to let him continue

554
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:27.719
with what he was saying, if
you don't mind. But this is an

555
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.519
interesting thing about this with Ramaswami and
attacking her on this, Uh you know,

556
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:34.679
are you Indian enough kind of thing? So I want Harlan to continue

557
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.360
from there. I didn't cut you
off, Harlan. I don't know why

558
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.320
you dropped and you might have hung
up on yourself. Okay, that was

559
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:45.039
on my this does since I got
this day, that's it. But I

560
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.760
won't pulling out you know, I
don't think that. I mean, who

561
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:52.880
cares what she's using? You know
what I mean? I think, you

562
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:59.519
know, Ramswamy is beating a dead
horse, you know, pulling that trick.

563
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.320
You don't I'm saying, I just
don't understand that. I guess that's

564
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:07.599
some kind of you know, some
of their inner racial thing that it might

565
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:12.400
insult you know, her more than
it would you know, the average person

566
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.559
or whatever. Well, maybe he
just figures it's hard. Maybe he just

567
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:17.880
figures it's harder to call him racist
because he's got, you know, some

568
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:23.840
skin in the Indian game. Is
that maybe the possibility here? Yeah?

569
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:29.360
Yeah, probably so. And you
know I would agree with him a lot

570
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.760
more on what he says than what
she says. I won't point that out,

571
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.079
but you know, I think he's
I've seen too many things. He's

572
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:39.119
lied and he's flip fluffed on just
here in the last couple of years.

573
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:46.280
And then there's a clip running around
of him and Mayor Pete was was it

574
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:52.719
on Roland Martin or Al Sharpton or
something on MSNBC just so happened to be

575
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:57.760
setting out in the audience. I
mean, what's the odds, you know.

576
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.320
And I'm not hoping not against him
as much as just you know,

577
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:07.679
he was telling the truth on Trump
a year or so ago, and now

578
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:14.280
he you know, he cannot run
quick enough to pull vacuum on one side

579
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:19.000
of Trump's ass. I mean from
books have ever seen. But back to

580
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:23.559
what I was saying about the stuff
with Krispy Kreme and you know and DeSantis,

581
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:29.800
the differences between them, you know, Luck, I was saying,

582
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:34.280
there's a lot of states at one
time, for as I know, you

583
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:38.920
couldn't let a underage, you know, kid get a tattoo, whether if

584
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:43.079
it was my own or a sleeve
or you know, all over their body.

585
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.280
And all most people were saying,
here isn't a lot of people on

586
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:50.039
the right and don't like this,
but at least let them wait till they

587
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.800
get old enough, you know,
to know what they want to do.

588
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:59.400
How many people right now that's thirty
five, forty five, fifty five years

589
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:05.880
old. Sally was into some kind
of fad, you know, fifteen twenty

590
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.800
thirty years ago that they're ashamed of
now, but you know they've not you

591
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:15.079
know, been cut on or get
it. And you know, I think

592
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:21.679
myself a lot of this is just
another you know, medical industrial gimmick because

593
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:27.199
things set back and sell these people
anal treatments and medicines for the rest of

594
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.280
their life, especially if they're want
to. You know, most of these

595
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:35.559
transgenders or sexuals or whatever, you
know, the male the female. From

596
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:40.159
what I understand over the here,
they still got the lower equipment and most

597
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:44.800
of them are not gonna get that
cut off. Now, if you've got

598
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:46.599
a ten, twelve, thirteen,
fourteen year olds, you might be able

599
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:50.280
to put that in their mind,
you know what I'm saying. But once

600
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.480
you go to you know, taken
off, think no putting back. But

601
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:57.000
see that's the thing, it's permanent. Right. So well, here's here's

602
00:44:57.039 --> 00:45:00.079
the point that I see, right, And that's what's curious about this is

603
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.639
I don't understand how it is that
people couldn't just say, look, drop

604
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:08.239
all the rhetoric. How about the
simple limitation that it's a permanent alteration,

605
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:13.239
just like in the case of a
tattoo, which I think is sensible honestly,

606
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:19.559
that you don't require anything else other
than, look, somebody's got to

607
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.400
be at least of age to go
and put ink on their skin, which

608
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:28.840
is not completely irreversible, but it's
difficult to reverse, you know. And

609
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:34.719
I'm somebody with tattoos, right.
I don't think that you need to have

610
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:39.639
that before the age of at least
consent and at least whatever people want to

611
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:44.519
deem as adulthood, whether it's eighteen
or twenty one. You know, you

612
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.679
could play in that area. Do
I think people are fully developed at that

613
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:50.480
time? No, But I mean
at some point you got to let them

614
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.519
be adults. And I'm thinking same
thing for a beer, same thing for

615
00:45:53.679 --> 00:46:00.199
if you made twenty one all right, the thing and also if you did

616
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:04.000
it for people. See now,
other people would say, what about the

617
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:06.719
military? You can go and die
and you can do this if you're eighteen,

618
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.920
okay, fine, But I mean
if you made everything pretty much eighteen,

619
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:15.360
or you made everything a twenty one
year area where your parents need to

620
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:20.599
protect you up to that point,
but after that your decisions are yours,

621
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:24.639
I would I would be for that, and it should be done across the

622
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:30.039
board on all this stuff. In
my mind, and that to me,

623
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:35.880
is not a nanny state position,
that's just sanity. Am I Am I

624
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:38.760
wrong on this? Harlan? What
do you think? No, no,

625
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:43.079
no, you're on you know kind
of saying, you know, track,

626
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:45.639
I will phone out a few most
things. They wrapped this up at the

627
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:52.320
bait okay. Uh see when when
I wars Jesus was you know, kaying

628
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:54.519
and everything? They slipped in a
stale or where you had big twenty one

629
00:46:54.639 --> 00:47:00.559
to purchase any tobacco products. Ramsay
said you had to be eighteen, but

630
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:05.679
I actually got to be twenty one
before you can buy a cigarette now across

631
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:09.079
the board every state in America.
It's been like that for it's probably three

632
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:15.840
or four years now. Also cars
about parent rights and everything, Well,

633
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.679
first of all, be Pete was
going, you know, kind of a

634
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.320
direction where I'm fixing to go to. And you know, if anybody's got

635
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:27.880
any virgineers, now would be the
time to skip over a few minutes ure

636
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.639
you know, turn it down or
whatever, because I'm gonna tell it just

637
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.559
like it is. First of all, what kind of rights do you have

638
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:40.039
as a parent if for any and
any reasoning to show up and you know,

639
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:45.639
parent bed you see what I'm saying, there's all kinds of talk about,

640
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:49.039
you know, once from the time
they get on that school bus the

641
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:52.119
time they get back off. You
know, basically, you know, the

642
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.199
school owns them. I do think
that they should be responsible forever. If

643
00:47:55.239 --> 00:48:00.199
that's the case, you know,
my school and my bus driver, goody

644
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:04.360
else that'd be responsible for I'm still
calling mommy and Daddy says they was under

645
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.960
their care and control. You see
what I'm saying. But you know,

646
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:12.719
look, you can't sit here and
tell you kids you can go out these

647
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:16.559
same you know, little humans that
you can say, yeah, honey,

648
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:21.719
you know, will get you some
you know, some fake boobs, and

649
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.000
you can go over here and you
can start, you know, doing whatever

650
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:30.840
with grown people. Just like they
can't tell them they can do that.

651
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.159
Why in the hell can they sit
here and say, oh, yeah,

652
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:37.119
honey, you can do all this. I mean, it's just this total

653
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:45.159
bullshit. Christy is a cocksucking piece
of shit in my opinion, and he's

654
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:47.400
it's good that he said some of
this stuff that he is brought out,

655
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:52.679
he's actually told the truth. But
he's just basically, you know, a

656
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:59.320
round about liberal cocksucker that's got a
ro next to his name because he's got

657
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:02.840
some republic downer, so he's a
polate status more or less. And I

658
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:07.599
think it's really one of the only
reasons why that you know, he is

659
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:12.599
even got art next to his name. Besides that, when's the last time

660
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:15.480
as a Republican ever, you know, been elected in New Jerseys. Now,

661
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:20.920
if you were, yeah, well
no, we we get governors.

662
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:25.239
But it swings back and forth.
But the reason why you have any Republican

663
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:30.800
governors or Republicans that are selected in
New Jersey is because of their law and

664
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:37.079
order stance. It's the only reason. It's not because of the conservative you

665
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:40.800
know, social issues. It's all
about law and order. That is why

666
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:44.920
this guy was exactly the kind of
guy who gets selected in New Jersey.

667
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:49.400
Because he was thought of as a
law and order candidate. After we had

668
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.960
gone through a time period of you
know, loose corruption and this and that,

669
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:55.320
this guy was meant to be come
in and you know, clean it

670
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:59.079
up. Of course, he was
corrupt as anybody else. That's how he

671
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:04.159
got to be the you know,
this is New Jersey politics. But in

672
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:08.159
truth, the Republicans that gets selected
in New Jersey are only there because it's

673
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:12.039
always thought of and I thought of
this this way when I was younger.

674
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:16.400
Republicans on a local level especially,
will bring you more law and order directly.

675
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:21.239
Now, the problem is, you're
exactly right with Christy. The reason

676
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:27.320
why he is acceptable at all in
Republican establishment circles or ever was, is

677
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:32.159
because he's willing to take the jack
boot and put it on, especially all

678
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:37.280
of us troublemaking liberals. He's definitely
willing to crack down on all those trouble

679
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:43.760
making hippies and problem children with the
police state. He's exactly the guy who

680
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.960
introduces plenty of nanny state and throw
the cops at the issue, you know,

681
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:52.559
send people in, get him arrested, break some heads. This is

682
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:55.440
Chris Christie's way. Now, he
does it politely, he doesn't say it

683
00:50:55.559 --> 00:51:00.719
straight up, but that's the reality
of it. You're exactly right, and

684
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:04.360
that's exactly why he survived with that
R in front of his name. But

685
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:09.079
otherwise he is a spineless He's not
really committed anything. Now, he said

686
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:14.360
some right things recently, and he
accurately tears up Trump in my mind,

687
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:22.000
but other than that, the guy
is useless, absolutely useless. He's such

688
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:28.519
a whatever you want to call him. I mean, he's a guest hallophone

689
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:31.360
ammunition. See, from what I
understand, you can't even have hallophone ammunition

690
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:37.840
in the Jersey citting for many years. Nope, it's at you even possessed

691
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:43.519
him. It's yeah, that's a
felony possession in New Jersey. You know,

692
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:47.480
I can remember when that piece of
shit was a governor up there and

693
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.719
all these you know, these pre
maggotards was running around here, you know,

694
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:58.559
hollered my NRA and my freedom and
all that, that bunch of scumbag

695
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:04.760
bullshit and screaming about all these gun
bands. Well but them had them gun

696
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.719
bands in the Jersey, in the
York, you know, some of them

697
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:12.320
had our last that they never did
talk about him. And here's you know,

698
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:17.400
here's this flag wife and you know, allegedly fat portrait of Reagan.

699
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.920
O. God, he's still over
New Jersey. What did he do?

700
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:27.159
Yeah, that's the time. You
know. You know what's funny to me

701
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.159
about this, Harlan is that you, unlike most of the people on that

702
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:34.880
side of the equation. You know
what they bitch about the fact that he

703
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:39.760
embraced Obama when Obama visited after Hurricane
Sandy. Okay, after Superstorm Sandy,

704
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:45.159
he was there and like, thank
you for giving us help from FEMA and

705
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:50.480
mister President, and he was polite
to Obama. That is their big issue,

706
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:53.719
Like they don't look at any of
the crap he pulled, at any

707
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:58.440
of the disaster he made in Jersey. They don't look at any of the

708
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:01.000
corruption. You think Bridgegate, that's
what you got to hear about around the

709
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:05.559
country. I was cracking up the
whole time when that was a big story,

710
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:08.280
going are you guys serious? This
is the corruption you're pointing to.

711
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:13.679
So you're not going to look at
all of the selective prosecution that went on

712
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:16.119
while he was governor. Forget about
when he was a US attorney. When

713
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:21.800
he was governor, there was plenty
of people basically getting away with all kinds

714
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:25.280
of murder in New Jersey so long
as they were donating to the right party,

715
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:30.280
which was his party. It's not
about Republicanism, It's about Chris Christie.

716
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:36.199
He is Jaba, the fucking hut
governor of Jersey. That's it.

717
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:39.559
I just about said the effort almost
completely out of my mouth. This guy

718
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:46.320
pisses me off. You can tell
him jab of because I remember jabs.

719
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:51.800
Wasn't he that too? All in
line with the vaccine, all in line

720
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:53.960
with anything that is. And you
know what it is. It's not about

721
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:59.159
the philosophical he believes in science,
and no it isn't. It is about

722
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.400
compliance with this guy. This guy
is about you know what. I've got

723
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:07.880
people with badges. I've got people
with badges, government titles, we have

724
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:10.800
government vehicles with markings on them.
You know what you're supposed to do?

725
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:17.800
Obey? That is who he is. That yeah, And it doesn't matter

726
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:22.320
what philosophical where he stands on an
issue, get out of here. That's

727
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:27.480
irrelevant. What it is is obey, comply. That is who he was.

728
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:32.119
That is the the culture he encouraged
in New Jersey. That is you

729
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:37.079
know, just like in New York
City when Rudy Giuliani took over as mayor.

730
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:42.280
Okay, the police there caught a
different attitude immediately. All Right.

731
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:45.480
I'm not on the side of Sharpton, I'm not on the side of all

732
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:47.400
those political activists, and believe me, I'm not on the liberal side of

733
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:52.840
New York. But I will tell
you this that as soon as Juliani stepped

734
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:59.360
in and took the reins as mayor, the behavior of the police changed again.

735
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:02.760
And every time you see a new
regime coming to New York City,

736
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:08.559
the police take their cues from it. Okay, they were completely unchecked.

737
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:13.960
Well, Dinkins was in there,
and they were encouraged to do bad stuff

738
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:17.559
while Juliani was in there. So
this is what went on. And people

739
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:22.400
on the streets also took the cues. Why were there so many riots while

740
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:25.519
the Democrat was in there because he
knew, or they knew, people knew

741
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:30.400
on the street that they were going
to be unchecked. He was going to

742
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:32.639
turn his head, not back him
up, not help out the cops,

743
00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:36.719
not stand by him, not encourage
him to be more violent or anything.

744
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:42.079
What he was going to do is
turn his head and just I'm not seeing

745
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:45.920
you. That's what he did,
and that's what I watched happen while I

746
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:52.679
lived there. Okay, And Juliani
encouraged the police state. He encouraged an

747
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:55.280
absolute crackdown. You know, you
get to a point where cops should be

748
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:59.320
patrolling a neighborhood and keeping an eye
on things and all that. Great.

749
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:04.000
You see when a cop is willing
to break your skull because you happen to

750
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:07.800
be on a street corner a little
bit late, and you know, you

751
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:12.079
didn't move right away when they snapped
an order at you and they beat you

752
00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:15.440
down. That is a different Yeah, that's a different culture. And that

753
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:22.599
was being encouraged under Giuliani. But
only if you were certain people. Other

754
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:28.320
people could be flat out criminals and
do whatever the hell they wanted and they

755
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:31.840
were protected. The cops played the
we don't see you game, and that

756
00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:37.119
was encouraged from the top down.
I'm certain that that's what's going on now.

757
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.679
But anyway, back to this with
Krispy Kreme again, I lived there

758
00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:45.800
in Jersey while he was governor.
He encouraged the state troopers get more aggressive.

759
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:52.079
He wanted more aggressive policing, he
wanted more aggressive tensions, he wanted

760
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:53.960
things. You know, this is
what he wanted. That's what he got.

761
00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:59.400
And as far as the rest of
his policies go, he did nothing

762
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:02.159
but make a mass, nothing but
make a mess, no progress, no

763
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:07.159
movement toward anything proper. You notice
DeSantis in his short time as governor,

764
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:12.079
turned around on that stage and said
several times, I signed this, I

765
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:15.840
did this. Now. I'm not
saying he was entirely truthful with everything but

766
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:20.679
you see, DeSantis could point to
stuff he did. Notice what Krispy Kreme

767
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:25.119
doesn't do, say I did this, I did that. Outside of hurricane

768
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:31.159
relief after Sandy, which he did
actively participated. People were hurting, displaced,

769
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:35.880
and you know what, he allowed
the state to try and help them

770
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:38.400
a bit. It took quite a
while, and it took FEMA quite a

771
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:42.800
while, and I assure you it
was about a month. If we didn't

772
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:46.679
have churches and people on the ground
networking with each other, a lot of

773
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:52.039
people would have starved to death and
everything else in New Jersey. Okay,

774
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:55.960
it wasn't the government that got the
ball rolling, but they did finally come

775
00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:00.440
a few weeks later and help out. Some give him that. So he

776
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:05.280
did move. And when Obama came
and he thanked him, everybody's pissed at

777
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:09.119
that. It's stupid. That is
a show for the media. So what

778
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:13.760
how about you look at what he
did and what he didn't do. That's

779
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:15.880
just because we such stuff against Trump. I mean, if he'd never said

780
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:21.639
the thing against Trump had been the
best thing since slice bread, and he

781
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:24.920
thanked Obama. They've been out telling
people he made Obama come up first.

782
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:30.119
But in my clothing on him.
This guy just ooses I've seen him over

783
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:37.719
the years, he ooses corrupt,
control freak, dictating prick. That's what

784
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:43.599
he owses one hundred percent. You
know. I you know, I'd gore

785
00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:47.159
to see fucking Biden staying there's I
with him because he ain't got a chance

786
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:52.320
of getting there. But you know, even Biden is not as that much

787
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:57.320
for the empty under control freak from
what I've seen, and and he's done

788
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:01.239
all kinds of stupid shits that's under
the control for you know, umbrella in

789
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:06.159
my opinion, Yes, but yeah, I got He's just he's just a

790
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:07.639
damn people for me. It's not
like I've just seen him. He in

791
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:12.199
the last couple of months. I
mean I've seen him for years. But

792
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:15.800
guys, he just stood out and
everybody, Oh, look at a Republican

793
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:20.679
in New Jersey for so what I
mean, who can I mean? So

794
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:24.559
what, Yeah, you've had You've
had others, You've had others. I'll

795
00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:30.079
go look at it, but uh
you know, uh well we'll we'll we'll

796
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:31.599
just take a look at that real
fast, because I know it's had gone

797
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:35.199
back and forth throughout the course of
my lifetime. You know, What's weird

798
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.480
too, is that Nikki Haley is
almost exactly the same age as me.

799
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:40.360
She's like four months older than me, I think, or three months older

800
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:45.119
than me, which I find weird. You know, here we go with

801
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:50.719
some Generation X representation at least.
But I would prefer Nicki Haley over christ

802
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:57.960
Yeah, I would prefer Nicki Haley
or DeSantis over freaking Krispy Kreme any day,

803
00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:00.360
to tell you the truth. Uh, you know, but again,

804
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:01.440
I don't want to get too much
into my opinions, and I want you

805
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:06.039
guys to join in out there.
Three one nine five two seven five zero

806
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:08.239
one six b Pete, what do
you have to say about this exchange between

807
01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:15.800
me and Harlan over Krispy Kreme here? Well, yeah, to me,

808
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:21.840
it's just old toast. You know, Christy's done with He needs to just

809
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:25.760
go ahead and fade away and get
a job on CNN or something as a

810
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:29.679
as a spokesman, I mean,
I don't put any I don't put any

811
01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:32.559
weight in anything he has to say
or any of his positions. He's a

812
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:37.639
one term governor and so what what
did he do? Nothing? You know,

813
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:43.960
he got away with what Bridgegate didn't
do something about closing the bridge or

814
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:45.800
something there. Well, that's what
you knew about is that he closed a

815
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:50.280
bridge to get back at a political
rival who had screwed him over on something

816
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:53.400
else. But uh yeah, that
that that that's about it. That sounds

817
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:57.840
typical. Yeah, that sounds typical. It is, you know, so

818
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:02.079
I really I just assume I'm just
ready for Chris Christy. They're off into

819
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:06.480
the sunset and do something else.
Right listening to him, but I just

820
01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:10.159
I don't understand how he makes it
onto the debate stage when you know,

821
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:14.639
even in the polls, the guy's
got no, he doesn't have a clue.

822
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:15.840
He doesn't have a chance. So
he doesn't have a clue about not

823
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:20.440
having a chance. Right now,
here's the reason why Harlan says, you

824
01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:22.719
know, when was the last time
we had a Republican governor New Jersey?

825
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:27.440
Okay, here's the thing up to
twenty eighteen. Okay, twenty ten to

826
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:34.199
twenty eighteen is Chris Christy. So
he actually had multiple terms. But John

827
01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:37.800
Cordy what two term governor? Uh? Well, what is that? That's

828
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:39.480
that's uh? I think we still
have the two year deal up there,

829
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:44.039
right, So we got four either
four two year terms or two four year

830
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:45.320
terms. I think it's four two
year terms, believe it or not.

831
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:52.159
Really. Yeah, But anyway,
before that, you had uh yeah,

832
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:57.920
John Corzine for four years. You
had Jim McGreevy for two years, okay,

833
01:01:57.920 --> 01:02:04.400
but McGreevy was a replacement, mind
you. You know Richard Cody.

834
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:07.079
These are Democrats now that I'm listening. So Corzine, McGreevy, Cody.

835
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:13.360
And then you get to Bennett,
okay, which was just in there for

836
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:17.000
two thousand and two as a Republican. That was during that time after Christy

837
01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:23.719
Todd Whitman left, right, So
you had de Francisco excuse me, de

838
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:29.079
Francesco, de Francesco whatever. He
was there for like a minute between two

839
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:32.360
thousand and one and two thousand and
two. And that's all because Governor Whitman

840
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:37.280
had left in two thousand and one
to go ahead the EPA after being in

841
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:43.719
there from ninety four to two thousand
and one. So from ninety four to

842
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:47.199
two thousand and two you had Republican
governors, all right, just saying then

843
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:51.960
you had one Democrat for four years, Jim Florio, who they just about

844
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:55.760
ran out of Jersey on a rail
over his taxes. Okay, I don't

845
01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:59.639
know if if that got into the
national conversation, but that was a big

846
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:02.000
deal. His big mistake was taxing
toilet paper, by the way, that's

847
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:07.679
what outraged people in New Jersey.
Anyhow, Before that, you had Republican

848
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:12.760
Thomas kan or Keane, depending on
how you say his name. And then

849
01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:15.599
you have the infamous Brendan Byrne,
who was in there from seventy four to

850
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:21.360
eighty two. So from eighty two
to ninety you had a Republican. From

851
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.000
ninety to ninety four you have a
Democrat. From ninety four to two thousand

852
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:30.719
and two you have a Republican.
You see what I'm saying, It swings

853
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:35.000
back and forth. So from two
thousand and two to twenty ten, okay,

854
01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:39.679
eight years there you have combo Democrats
and then eight years of Christy.

855
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:44.039
So you know, almost in eight
year cycles. It looks like to me,

856
01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:47.599
if you go back far enough to
where I was born, yeah,

857
01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:52.440
like every eight years you have a
big switch. And let's see, it

858
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:55.880
was Hughes up until nineteen seventy,
and when I was born, it was

859
01:03:55.920 --> 01:04:01.360
Republican government Governor Cahill who was there
for four years from seventy to seventy four.

860
01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:04.960
Then, like I said, the
infamous Brendan Byrne, who the arena

861
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:10.239
was named after for no apparent reason, from seventy four to eighty two,

862
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:13.800
and that's the way it goes.
So in about approximately six to eight year

863
01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:16.840
cycles, you have it switching back
and forth from Republican to Democrat. Although

864
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:24.000
the Christy Todd Whitman situation was weird
because she resigned and ultimately it was turned

865
01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:28.880
over to McGreevy who was run out
of office and Corzin took over and then

866
01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:32.679
I believe one one selection or two
on his own. But McGreevy was run

867
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:38.320
out of office because he had given
he had a fake family situation there where

868
01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:42.440
his straight family was upfront to the
public and his gay lover was working for

869
01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:45.039
him, and he gave his gay
lover a job, and that's why he

870
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:49.400
got run out of the governor's mansion
in Jersey, which was too funny because

871
01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:56.079
everybody knew it on the local level. And that's an odd thing that happened

872
01:04:56.079 --> 01:05:00.360
in that time period that today would
be a whole other situation, even though

873
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:02.800
it was really about the corruption of
you know, bringing in uh, you

874
01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:08.000
know, giving special job treatment to
somebody you were personally attached to. That

875
01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:11.519
was what the real problem was.
But people did freak out also because he

876
01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:15.679
was like the closeted gay governor.
Anyway, Yeah, so you know,

877
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:19.519
New Jersey is a weird purple state
in my mind because every six to eight

878
01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:24.239
years we switch. We go,
Okay, let's go Republican. That's not

879
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:27.199
working, Let's go Democrat. Okay, that's not working, Let's go Republican.

880
01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:30.360
This is where it goes. And
I think it legitimately sways that way.

881
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:35.159
That's why I call it that.
But anyway, well, to refer

882
01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:41.039
to our drive by from Jimmy James, and I don't know who he directed

883
01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:45.480
this at, but his point number
four, having never lived in real America,

884
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:47.960
you do not have an accurate perception
on so called political parties and their

885
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:53.239
actual beliefs. Now. I don't
know who he was directing that at,

886
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:56.800
whether it was me, you,
or Harlan, but I you know,

887
01:05:56.840 --> 01:06:01.639
it seems shocked making well, it
just seems strange that, you know,

888
01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:05.280
he would make a comment like that. I think I'm a little older than

889
01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:10.559
he is. I've lived in real
America. I know about political parties and

890
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:13.840
what they believe, and what their
platforms are, and how they always abandon

891
01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:15.559
them when it comes time to do
whatever it is they're supposed to do.

892
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:19.400
So I mean, if that's the
quality of comment we're going to get from

893
01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:24.519
him, I'm glad he left.
I mean, this is ridiculous. Well,

894
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:27.280
you know, I'm thinking that might
have been directed at me because I

895
01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:30.079
had talked about living in red states
versus blue states, and I felt like

896
01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:32.679
in the red states, at least
people leave, you know, my personal

897
01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:38.519
business the hell alone, a little
more the state does. So I was

898
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:41.840
saying that in defense of living in
what I consider to be a much more

899
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:45.159
red place. But people have this
idea that Georgia is a blue state now

900
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:51.000
because of that Senate selection. But
the truth is, again you're looking at

901
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:59.239
a situation where the two Republican candidates
were both states up on corruption, really

902
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:02.039
all up to their That's this shit
when it comes in most states in the

903
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:08.440
South and North Carolina's prime example of
that. We've got a Republican legislature that

904
01:07:08.679 --> 01:07:12.039
finally got control a few years back, and they have found a way to

905
01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:15.599
keep control of it. Prior to
that, what the Democrat fulled this place

906
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:20.000
for over one hundred years, we
always seem to have a Democrat governor because

907
01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:24.079
we can't come up with a decent
Republican to run. Now, this next

908
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:28.639
election may be a change. But
when it comes to federal government, you

909
01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:33.519
know, we used to have one
Democrat senator, one Republican senator. Every

910
01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:36.320
now and then you'd end up with
two of the same party. But here

911
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:42.000
lately it's been Republican senators. So
you know, do you go from the

912
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:46.400
state level to the to the federal
level. You see, it's a different

913
01:07:46.480 --> 01:07:51.719
world when it comes to state politics
versus federal politics. But you know,

914
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:59.519
having lived in red states, I
mean you've lived in North Carolina and Georgia,

915
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:03.159
predominantly red states. Now North Carolina
can be purple at times, but

916
01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:08.360
they're turning more red, right.
But I just don't understand somebody living,

917
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:11.559
you know, in the Upper Midwest
thinks that, you know, where is

918
01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:16.000
real America? So you can't get
more real in Georgia. Well that's what

919
01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:19.000
I'm thinking. To get more real
in North Carolina and the other thing,

920
01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:24.159
to get more real in California.
Well, you know, California, like

921
01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:27.760
it or not, it is part
of America. But but the thing is

922
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:31.000
to me, it is a red
stale thing and one other thing just real

923
01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:35.680
fast. The reason why I brought
it out is because it's the state enforcement

924
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:41.560
that is at issue when I'm talking
about this parental rights problem. It is

925
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:45.760
the state and local enforcement that is
my issue, because, look, the

926
01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:49.399
federal government can say whatever it wants, but if the state child Protective Services

927
01:08:49.880 --> 01:08:57.479
or your local school board is issuing
decrees that you have to adhere to because

928
01:08:57.520 --> 01:09:01.000
otherwise we're going to use legal mechanisms
to eat either take away your children or

929
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:06.319
to punish you or in some cases
jail you for not knowing what is supposed

930
01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:10.720
to be the right thing. That's
the issue I was talking about. And

931
01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:15.239
I feel like it is less likely
for those people to crawl up into your

932
01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:21.119
butthole, okay, in Georgia and
North Carolina than it was in Jersey,

933
01:09:21.399 --> 01:09:24.920
because it happened all the time in
Jersey, not just to me, but

934
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:29.760
people I knew where you had some
sort of you know, snitch thing where

935
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:32.840
somebody would you know, anonymously report
on you, and the next thing you

936
01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:38.840
knew the police, the Prosecutor's office, child Protective Services, the school boards

937
01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:44.760
involved. There are five six agencies
that would descend upon you if you were

938
01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:47.880
seen as being a bad parent.
Now, the weird thing is, if

939
01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:50.880
you lived in the right place,
they didn't care. They ignored it.

940
01:09:51.520 --> 01:09:56.279
That's the weird duality that would occur
right where Like, you know, you

941
01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:59.079
could beat your house to death as
long as you were in a place that

942
01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:01.640
they didn't care about. But if
you lived in other parts of New Jersey,

943
01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:06.680
you would have multiple arms of the
state and local government descend upon you

944
01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:12.880
personally. If you weren't making your
kids go to school enough, if you

945
01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:19.399
had been witnessed by somebody and reported
on for having used physical force against your

946
01:10:19.439 --> 01:10:24.279
kid, If you dragged your kid
out of a place, even if they

947
01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:26.960
were in the middle of you know, doing something harmful or crazy, or

948
01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:30.479
they were drunk or stone if you
grabbed them by the arm and yanked them

949
01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:32.960
out of their hert, you might
be brought up on charges. You might

950
01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:36.560
have the school board down your throat. You might have them mandating that you

951
01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:43.880
are medicated, you are drug tested
because you don't control your child. And

952
01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:47.840
that's the government getting involved in that
whole circumstance. And some people like it

953
01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:53.159
that way. I didn't, and
I don't like it so, you know,

954
01:10:53.279 --> 01:10:56.840
philosophically, I understand where Krispy Kremas. We have another caller, Harlan

955
01:10:56.960 --> 01:10:59.119
was trying to get to something.
But go ahead, be Pete and let's

956
01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:03.720
turn it over to Yeah. Quick
note to Harlan, I look up the

957
01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:11.000
law in North Carolina alcohol law enforcement
has decided that and this is based on

958
01:11:11.039 --> 01:11:16.439
the statute that they will not enforce
the twenty one year old requirement for purchasing

959
01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:19.960
cigarettes. They said they will leave
any enforcement of that up to the federal

960
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:25.319
authorities. So you have the stores
put the signs up saying you got to

961
01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:29.600
be twenty one. But in state
of North Carolina, if a police officer

962
01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:33.039
catches you with cigarettes and you're over
eighteen, by law, they can't enforce

963
01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:38.680
a violation. So I found that
interesting. That's good. Yeah, it's

964
01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:42.159
a weird mix. It's a weird
mix because they've had a bit of back

965
01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:45.680
and forth about this where you know, even with alcohol, if a kid

966
01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:48.159
gets caught with alcohol, in some
places, it's treated as a nothing.

967
01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:53.399
They confiscate and that's the end of
it, and they don't even issue a

968
01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:58.920
citation. In other places, though, like in New Jersey, they literally

969
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:01.399
have a you know, a law
you can break and be charged with,

970
01:12:01.560 --> 01:12:10.960
and it's like a distribution to an
underage person of alcohol or alcohol related products,

971
01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:14.720
and it's a charge. It's a
yeah. They do the same thing

972
01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:17.239
here for alcohol. They kept it
at eighteen for a while, but then

973
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:20.600
to get the Federal highway money.
When the government said okay, well,

974
01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:23.800
if you're going to keep it,
because this happened in Louisiana, it was

975
01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:27.199
eighteen for years, effort went twenty
one everywhere else, right, Oh,

976
01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:31.920
same thing here they can get different
contributing to the delinquency and distribution of alcohol

977
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:36.920
to someone under twenty one, and
they do enforce it. They do enforce

978
01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:41.479
it quite heavily. So there you
go. Some in some cases you have

979
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:44.800
played and there are places that you
know, do selective enforcement, like for

980
01:12:44.920 --> 01:12:49.159
instance, in North Carolina not too
long ago, possession of cannabis at a

981
01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:54.479
certain level, they decided we're just
going to issue you a basic ticket,

982
01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:58.000
not even arrestue. You know here
it is it was a fifty or one

983
01:12:58.039 --> 01:13:00.760
hundred dollars fine. In most places, that's what it begs. That's just

984
01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:05.039
you get caught with under announce under
announce so they can get you for filonious

985
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:09.439
possession. Yeah. For well,
I think they start counting it as distribution

986
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:14.880
if you get over a certain weight, right, But only if you have

987
01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:18.800
the paraphernalia for distribution, like if
you have a box of baggies, or

988
01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:25.439
you have a set of postal scales
or then they can get you for distribution.

989
01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:29.640
But if you just get caught with
an ounce, they write your ticket.

990
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:32.079
I think it's one hundred and fifty
dollars five, Okay, that's about

991
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:34.520
what it was, like maybe a
hundred when I left, some one hundred

992
01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:39.479
and fifty you know, inflation.
But what's interesting to me is that that

993
01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:42.960
goes on. And meanwhile, like
I said, in Jersey, though you

994
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:45.119
could turn around, you could have
half a joint in your ash tray.

995
01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:49.159
You get pulled over for speeding,
and the next thing is you could get

996
01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:55.840
they'll just stack charges and you'll wind
up pleading to possession because they say,

997
01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:58.199
well, maybe you were trying to
distribute it. You were trying to share

998
01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:02.159
that joint with the guy sitting in
the passengers. That's how ridiculous they go

999
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:05.640
in certain places. But again,
that was the sort of thing that happened

1000
01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:13.800
under Christy, where the partially smoke
joint in your ashtray could get you drug

1001
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:17.800
dealer charges in Jersey, because that's
how he was encouraging things to be enforced.

1002
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:21.199
Anyways, Harlan, go ahead and
speak to this, and then I

1003
01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:24.600
do believe we have Vance waiting on
the phone, so I want to get

1004
01:14:24.600 --> 01:14:28.399
to him and anybody else that calls
in three one nine five two seven five

1005
01:14:28.520 --> 01:14:31.159
zero one six plus we'll take a
break at some point after I get Advance

1006
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:33.800
on. So go ahead, Harlan, put a cap on this for now,

1007
01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:39.359
and we'll put you on hold and
bring you back later. Okay,

1008
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:42.479
Yeah, I'm most say this.
I'll let you go ahead and get Vance.

1009
01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:45.560
I was texting him reminding him,
you know, about to show him

1010
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:48.560
he's got me on the list of
like two other people, and somebody was

1011
01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:53.119
coming back like, no, I'm
not calling in and I don't know this

1012
01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:58.760
number, and so I guess,
you know, Lance probably all right.

1013
01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:02.119
But you know, one of you
know, Jimmy's comments about you know,

1014
01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:08.119
not seeing America or you know whatever
else. I think my problem is I've

1015
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:13.439
seen too much of America, and
i'd probably have a lot different you know,

1016
01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:16.439
attitude on a lot of things if
I haven't seen so much. You

1017
01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:19.960
know what that I have. I
mean, you know me personally, you

1018
01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:25.359
know, I don't see a lot
of these so called Red states is some

1019
01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:30.680
kind of flagwaping, you know,
utopia just because it's not California in Oregon,

1020
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:32.840
I mean, if that makes any
sense. I mean, it's just

1021
01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:35.520
like here in Colorado. You know, if you was in the right area,

1022
01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:40.760
you probably lived just as good as
life as you could anywhere. But

1023
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:45.479
well, let me ask you.
Let me just ask you a quick question

1024
01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:46.840
to hit a nerve and let you
get to the rest of your point,

1025
01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:50.760
because I want to hit a nerve
with a listener. Here in you know,

1026
01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:56.640
Michigan, right, I hear people
in Michigan describe it as a wholly

1027
01:15:56.680 --> 01:16:00.600
different place depending on what part of
Michigan they're living in. Where you know,

1028
01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:06.279
it's a democrat utopia, it's a
republican utopia. It's got lots of

1029
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:13.840
freedom if you're a libertarian. I
hear entirely alien descriptions of the state of

1030
01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:17.840
Michigan, which I find really bizarre
and pretty sure Jimmy James lives in Michigan.

1031
01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:21.920
So I mean, do you have
any personal views on Michigan or that

1032
01:16:23.079 --> 01:16:25.960
part of the country, because it
seems to me like you go to different

1033
01:16:25.960 --> 01:16:30.720
parts of this country, you will
indeed get very different experiences. But overall,

1034
01:16:31.039 --> 01:16:34.960
I mean, they're kind of well
represented by the blue and the red

1035
01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:41.239
spots on the map they show you. In general, I think good,

1036
01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:44.840
bad, and ugly, all attached. But you know, maybe I'm wrong

1037
01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:48.119
about that. Michigan is a weird
place though, because again I know about

1038
01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:53.760
five or six people that live there, and each one of them has a

1039
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:59.800
completely like you'd think they were talking
about a different country from their descriptions about

1040
01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:02.439
how things are run there, how
things actually go, what real life is

1041
01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:06.720
like for the poor versus the rich. Everything. It's a very different universe

1042
01:17:06.720 --> 01:17:11.359
of stuff going on in Michigan.
I mean, is it just the strangeness

1043
01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:14.439
of the Great Lakes? What do
you think and what have you seen?

1044
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:17.399
Considering that you do, as a
matter of course and your making a living

1045
01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:25.279
travel around the country. Actually,
I've not been to Michigan in a while

1046
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:30.039
now, Okay, I've never you
know, made it a second home or

1047
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:32.640
anything. But a lot of these
states, especially the states up north,

1048
01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:39.880
and you could count this for several
states of the so called problem States,

1049
01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:43.960
to the ones people, you know, bitch and complain about what happens.

1050
01:17:44.119 --> 01:17:46.239
Is is, you know, like
Illinois, for example, You've got the

1051
01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:54.920
Chicago land area is basically running the
whole state. And there's only you know,

1052
01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:57.760
when you get all these state walls
and you get all this stuff,

1053
01:17:57.800 --> 01:18:01.319
you know, crammed into effect,
there's only so much that the rest of

1054
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:04.840
the state can really do. You
see what I'm saying. And I think

1055
01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:11.319
Michigan is you know, pretty much
somewhat a victim of that too. I

1056
01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:17.720
will Michigan, they're probably about five
go ahead, Yeah, I was just

1057
01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:21.399
gonna say real quick. You know, Michigan is as diverse as as people

1058
01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:28.279
think of two people for Michigan.
Jerald Ford, aunple Moore couldn't find two

1059
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:32.760
people for a little part there you
go. There, that's the that's the

1060
01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:36.079
deal. And you know a lot
of you know, the states. It's

1061
01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:42.760
just like North Carolina for example.
You know, like you take like over

1062
01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:46.359
around Wilson and over there, like
right there on the ninety five cor door.

1063
01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:50.119
You know, it's quite a bit
different than like over around Asheville,

1064
01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:57.439
because Ashville has turned into some kind
of blue liberal haven from what I understand.

1065
01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:00.239
The last several years. Really.
Well, it's like it's like most

1066
01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:05.239
lines. Yeah, Ashville is notorious
for its its liberalness. It's if you

1067
01:19:05.279 --> 01:19:10.359
look at the Durham, Raleigh,
Durham Area, Charlotte, ASSHL, those

1068
01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:14.720
are your three big municipalities, and
that's where you have a lot of your

1069
01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:19.720
Democrats. The rural part is solid
Republican. That's the difference in I mean,

1070
01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:23.640
it's it's that way in a lot
of states. Your big municipalities are

1071
01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:29.880
usually liberal. Your rural areas or
agricultural areas or places away from the larger

1072
01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:33.680
cities are more conservative. It's it's
like that in a lot of states.

1073
01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:40.560
Yeah, there's a big difference between
like North Georgia than like, you know,

1074
01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:45.840
down where you're at you Yeah,
I mean a certain extent. But

1075
01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:53.720
I will say this. You know, it's like after this flashed election when

1076
01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:58.720
Walker lost and who is the other
guy that lost it? And both of

1077
01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:02.600
them lose because both s the states
was up for election, but camp Fall

1078
01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:12.279
who was the other one? Yeah? Walker was the Trump pick. Yeah

1079
01:20:12.319 --> 01:20:16.079
he was. No, Walker was
in Georgia. Yeah, yes, well

1080
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:21.079
that's one of Yeah, who was
the other guy? Chuck? Which one

1081
01:20:21.159 --> 01:20:27.640
the offs? You know, they
had the two runner they had the run

1082
01:20:27.640 --> 01:20:30.560
offs and the Democrats. Yeah,
they had a jungle run off. There

1083
01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:33.840
was there was like five people in
the jungle runoff. Yeah, there was

1084
01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:41.119
an extremely liberal guy from from the
university area up there by Uh, oh

1085
01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:45.520
god, what is the name of
that? That area very liberal parts of

1086
01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:49.079
Georgia. What's the most liberal part
of Georgia outside of Atlanta? B Pete?

1087
01:20:50.520 --> 01:20:57.600
Oh that was Savannah, that's it. Yeah, yeah, the Savannah

1088
01:20:57.680 --> 01:21:03.640
area, you know, academic guy
who was running there was let's see,

1089
01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:10.880
uh, the two main Republicans ran
and they were one of them was a

1090
01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:14.000
former I got to take a look
at that who was in the jungle primary.

1091
01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:16.239
And the area of North Carolina I
was thinking of that I really liked

1092
01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:21.640
was Newburn, believe it or not, because that was the oddest sort of

1093
01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:26.800
mixture of everything in North Carolina.
I really wished I had been able to

1094
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:30.119
move to Newburn. Vp't. I
don't know what you think of that,

1095
01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:33.159
but it seemed like it was like
the good area where you could get a

1096
01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:39.359
little taste to everything at a Newburn
like very diverse, like you you can.

1097
01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:43.159
But then again you get into Newburn, you start getting into some liberal

1098
01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:47.319
craft so well, So any city
of any size, you're gonna start seeing

1099
01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:51.159
more and more of it in North
Carolina. Yeah, let's stick to the

1100
01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:58.880
in grace because I'm relan and I
might get out anyway. I'll call back

1101
01:21:58.920 --> 01:22:00.079
to the can, you know if
I but they've cut iron for a little

1102
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:02.439
while. But the away grab man
ark, you say what he's got to

1103
01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:06.560
say? Right, Okay, Well, let's let's let's see. I'm gonna

1104
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:11.039
figure this thing out and we will
go to Vance next. I'm gonna put

1105
01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:13.119
you on hold though, and if
you want to come back all in,

1106
01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:15.279
you're more than welcome. Uh,
But let's get to Vance and see what

1107
01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:18.479
he has to say about what's gone
on in this discussion or anything else he

1108
01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:21.640
wants to throw on the table.
So, uh, van Archy, what's

1109
01:22:21.640 --> 01:22:28.039
going on? Man? Oh?
That a lot of I hadn't really heard

1110
01:22:28.039 --> 01:22:31.680
a whole lot of it because I've
been having phone problems for a while.

1111
01:22:31.680 --> 01:22:36.880
They're the stream because I normally just
listen in while you NBPE catch up all

1112
01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:41.279
that, you know, till I
call in. But then it turned to

1113
01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:45.520
just broken chat you know, take
that and that you know would message with

1114
01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:48.800
my phone and everything. So I
only heard little bits and pieces and stuff.

1115
01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:56.920
But you know, I heard enough
about the points I was remembering from

1116
01:22:56.960 --> 01:23:01.760
here. Hearing was you know,
talking about the the or B Pete was

1117
01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:04.880
saying, you know that you know, tell something changes or whatever. It's

1118
01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:09.800
through all this social engineering that they've
been doing. It's like you know,

1119
01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:15.960
which I'm just now talking about,
you know, the perception of of of

1120
01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:19.840
of what you know, party or
you know, affiliation, red blue all

1121
01:23:19.880 --> 01:23:25.680
that you know, and in states
are like like you said about Michigan,

1122
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:28.560
you know, got ted nugent to
you know, Michael Moore. The you

1123
01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:30.920
know, it's like there's no you
know, they try to paint that and

1124
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:36.680
they and through their little you know
demographics where they you know, divide up

1125
01:23:36.720 --> 01:23:41.600
how many you know, according to
whatever you know sources that they're getting these

1126
01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:45.720
you know, numbers from them,
you know, to establish that or whatever.

1127
01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:50.520
But the you know, I'm just
curious. It's a big unknown is

1128
01:23:50.560 --> 01:23:56.079
you know, how many people and
you know, with all this transgender and

1129
01:23:56.119 --> 01:24:00.439
everything else that or you know that
that they're you know, over and over

1130
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:04.199
to this. It's like on TV
they got all these watched a lot of

1131
01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:10.159
car shows you know, on order
Turn TV and and it's like there always

1132
01:24:10.159 --> 01:24:13.600
has to be a woman that's involved
in the crew and you know as part

1133
01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:16.319
of the now they got like whole
show as a woman. I'm not dogging

1134
01:24:16.359 --> 01:24:19.119
women or anything. I'm just saying, you know, it's obvious how they're

1135
01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:23.319
you know, they're pushing this,
you know, trying to you know,

1136
01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:26.039
all the commercials. You know,
you've got a black and white woman,

1137
01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:29.319
you know, mixed families, and
you know they're just going out of their

1138
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:32.720
way to to make this, you
know, appear like they're supporting something,

1139
01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:38.680
but they're just you know, basically
causing more division that you know, problem

1140
01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:42.680
reaction solution kind of thing that we're
now. You know, they're like b

1141
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:46.039
Pete was saying, there's hardly anybody's
really you know, cares about the trans

1142
01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:49.159
issue. It's not like, you
know, there's this big movement of people

1143
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:55.760
that have felt so you know repressed
and and held down you know by society.

1144
01:24:55.880 --> 01:25:00.560
You know, that is pushing this
agenda forward. So hopefully it's getting

1145
01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:03.359
so obvious that people will be able
to just recognize it for it is what

1146
01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:06.880
it is, and then you know, we can go ahead and adjust the

1147
01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:13.800
system to be more you know functional
and actually you know, something that celebrates

1148
01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:18.760
humanity in human life and just imagine
all of that. Let me yeah,

1149
01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:21.640
let me let me ask you something. I want to ask you something because

1150
01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:27.000
your point of view will definitely be
different than everybody else's so far that's been

1151
01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:30.119
presented on this, So I want
to get your take on something really quickly.

1152
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:32.840
They'll be Pete. What you were
asking about is there was a big

1153
01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:36.359
run off of a bunch of candidates
for those Senate seats at one point,

1154
01:25:36.680 --> 01:25:43.840
and it it ended up pairing down
to Purdue versus us Off and Leffler,

1155
01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:48.680
Yeah, and Leffler versus Warnock.
But you also had herschel Walker in there,

1156
01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:54.479
right. Uh. Walker was like
the pro Trump outsider and just he

1157
01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:57.159
couldn't you know, he couldn't hold
it together. I mean they picked him

1158
01:25:57.199 --> 01:26:00.119
apart. Uh, in some cases
rightfully so and in some cases, you

1159
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:03.039
know, I mean he was he
was a bit of an odd ball candidate.

1160
01:26:03.079 --> 01:26:05.000
I mean, let's be honest,
it was. It was an odd

1161
01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:10.039
one. Yeah, Purdue was the
one I couldn't think of, and I

1162
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:12.920
know he had a bunch of money
back at him on that. Of course,

1163
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:15.720
he had some legal troubles, so
that not too long ago too,

1164
01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:18.359
But that was the one I couldn't
think of was Purdue. And Leffler is

1165
01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:23.119
like the wife of the guy who
like owns the stock market pretty much.

1166
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:26.399
I mean, that's a pretty good
way to pair that down. So you

1167
01:26:26.479 --> 01:26:30.880
had big, big money and then
you had a bunch of big Democrat money

1168
01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:34.520
poured in to get you know,
everybody forgets about us off. We're seeing

1169
01:26:34.560 --> 01:26:41.159
warnocka out there already politically grandstanding,
you know, already this year. I

1170
01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:45.720
think he's not up for consideration again
for a little while because he was what

1171
01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:49.479
selected again in twenty twenty, so
I mean he shouldn't be up to was

1172
01:26:49.479 --> 01:26:54.279
twenty two, So he's not up
again till twenty eight if he stays in

1173
01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:59.119
office as a senator, right,
But he's out there campaigning on like Biden's

1174
01:26:59.119 --> 01:27:03.439
behalf. And Warnock was another guy
with a troubled past and his domestic violence

1175
01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:08.600
and all kinds. I mean,
it was just like a crazy event here,

1176
01:27:09.119 --> 01:27:12.520
this weird runoff. And before that, they had something that I referred

1177
01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:16.600
to as a jungle primary because they
had this open thing where there was about

1178
01:27:16.960 --> 01:27:23.560
eight candidates going for the two slots
to be considered, and then it got

1179
01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:28.039
pared down to those four running for
the two Senate seats. One was a

1180
01:27:28.079 --> 01:27:32.680
special election and the other one was
the completion I think of a produced regular

1181
01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:38.239
term that happened to come together at
the same time. So it was kind

1182
01:27:38.279 --> 01:27:41.359
of a wild situation. And then
people have really pointed to this as now

1183
01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:44.960
George's turned blue because of these two
guys. But really what it is is

1184
01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:49.119
that the Republicans and the Democrats both
put up some pretty bad candidates, and

1185
01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:54.680
I think at the end of the
day, the Republican candidates looked worse to

1186
01:27:55.000 --> 01:28:00.960
Georgia than did the Democrats. As
all. Well, here, it's like

1187
01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:03.680
Pat McCrory. He was the mayor
of Charlotte for the longest time and he

1188
01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:09.920
ran for governor and he won,
and I mean he was a Republican in

1189
01:28:10.039 --> 01:28:14.239
name only, so when he came
up for reelection, he's one of these

1190
01:28:14.279 --> 01:28:18.680
that claims his election was basically stolen
and he's been going on about it ever

1191
01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:25.880
since. He's also one of the
guys behind this no Labels party. Interesting,

1192
01:28:25.920 --> 01:28:28.399
I mean, that's the way it
is in North Carolina. We get

1193
01:28:28.439 --> 01:28:31.119
a Republican governor, we're lucky if
we can keep him for eight years.

1194
01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:38.560
But when you get Republicans like Pat
McCrory in there, whoever's going to run

1195
01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:42.800
against them as the Democrats automatically going
to win because they suck. I mean,

1196
01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:47.439
they're just sorry politicians. And McCrory's
more liberal than any Republican I've seen

1197
01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:53.199
in this area in quite some time, but you know, quite soft.

1198
01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:56.039
He couldn't just go away. Yeah. Some of those candidates, though,

1199
01:28:56.039 --> 01:28:58.920
are usually like a compromise where it's
like, look, we can't put in

1200
01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:01.479
the hardest core regular Republican. We
got to give you know, you got

1201
01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:05.079
to have somebody like the uh the
more you know, people considered Clinton a

1202
01:29:05.119 --> 01:29:10.840
more uh conservative Democrat for his time
period, right where it's like, well

1203
01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:14.359
that'll be more acceptable because we can
say, well, well he was more

1204
01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:15.920
middle of the road. I would
say, more middle of the road than

1205
01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:19.720
more conservative. Yes, but that's
the thing is to get to the road.

1206
01:29:20.239 --> 01:29:24.119
You know. Anyway, Well look
at McCain, look at that Romney.

1207
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:28.479
You know, terrible candidates, right
right, So look back to what

1208
01:29:28.479 --> 01:29:31.840
Advance was talking about though, because
I interrupted him and I wanted to interrupt

1209
01:29:31.920 --> 01:29:34.800
him on a key point that had
to do with what he was talking about.

1210
01:29:35.359 --> 01:29:38.960
Uh, and ask him kind of
the question that I sort of tried

1211
01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:44.000
to put to both you and UH
and Harlan before, which is this idea

1212
01:29:44.079 --> 01:29:48.640
that I think it's the it's the
fault of the nanny state liberals who have

1213
01:29:48.840 --> 01:29:55.840
put into play this idea that the
state should have supreme authority over parents' decisions.

1214
01:29:55.920 --> 01:29:59.760
Now, in the case of you
know, tattoos and this and that

1215
01:29:59.840 --> 01:30:01.640
andlah blah blah, people would say
that's not as big an issue. But

1216
01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:05.960
when it comes to this transgender thing, which BP points out and you Dvance

1217
01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:13.079
would agree, is a a sliver
of a minority as opposed to even being

1218
01:30:13.079 --> 01:30:16.279
big enough to be a minority of
people that are being focused on here as

1219
01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:19.920
the interest group. Here's what I'm
trying to pair it back to, though,

1220
01:30:20.560 --> 01:30:25.039
is that in a lot of places, people think it's good or bad,

1221
01:30:25.119 --> 01:30:28.720
and I think it's always bad to
give the government the right to really

1222
01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:34.000
truly interfere with the parent's decisions regarding
their children. And that was Krispy Kreme's

1223
01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:40.159
position on that debate, is that, look, I think that and of

1224
01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:43.359
course it's not realistic at this point
in time because of what's gone on in

1225
01:30:43.399 --> 01:30:46.680
the past twenty thirty years. But
the truth is this idea that the state

1226
01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:50.920
should not be involved, which is
kind of ironic coming out of his police

1227
01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:56.079
state mouth. Okay, that he
thinks that, well, parents ought to

1228
01:30:56.079 --> 01:30:59.960
make those decision. This guy in
no way thinks that anybody who doesn't have

1229
01:31:00.199 --> 01:31:03.479
a badge shouldn't be making your decisions
in your life. Okay, real simple.

1230
01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:08.399
I don't like him for that alone. Forget about his corruption. I

1231
01:31:08.399 --> 01:31:11.359
could forgive some of that. Forget
about the fact that he's, you know,

1232
01:31:11.439 --> 01:31:15.159
a disturbingly fat guy from Jersey.
I mean, you know, there's

1233
01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:18.640
also sunflowers there too. There's probably
just about as many. The thing is,

1234
01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:25.119
it's not a big deal, but
this idea that parents having supremacy as

1235
01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:29.319
opposed to the government getting involved,
I would think that advance, you would

1236
01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:31.119
kind of be on the side of
what Chrispy Green was saying, where parents

1237
01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:34.760
ought to make those decisions. The
government doesn't need to get involved. But

1238
01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:41.520
there are plenty of people out there
who would solidly disagree with me about that

1239
01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:44.119
that. You know what, the
government has to step in, the government

1240
01:31:44.159 --> 01:31:46.439
has to regulate these things because people
don't know how to take care of their

1241
01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:51.039
children, et cetera. Et cetera. So what are your thoughts on that?

1242
01:31:51.119 --> 01:31:55.720
Where now you have the conservatives,
who in my mind would have normally

1243
01:31:56.399 --> 01:32:00.000
been on the side of leave government
out of these decisions, are now saying

1244
01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:04.079
for the best interest of the child
though the government needs to be involved to

1245
01:32:04.159 --> 01:32:10.159
prevent these procedures from happening. I'm
not saying that I'm siding with them or

1246
01:32:10.159 --> 01:32:14.520
against them. What I'm saying is
that isn't it odd that now the people

1247
01:32:14.520 --> 01:32:17.239
who are opposing them are exactly the
people who have built a thirty year track

1248
01:32:17.279 --> 01:32:21.479
record of saying the Nanty States should
make decisions, the Nanty States should take

1249
01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:26.119
away your kids. The Naty State
ought to punish you, find you put

1250
01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:30.399
you in prison. When you do
anything to your child, do we disapprove

1251
01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:34.039
of If you smack them, you're
maybe going to prison because you might have

1252
01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:39.399
attempted murder. You know, if
you've done something else, you've exposed them

1253
01:32:39.439 --> 01:32:42.199
to things that they shouldn't have been
exposed to. It's now child abuse.

1254
01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:45.399
You allowed your eighteen year old or
your seventeen year old to drink a beer,

1255
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:49.600
you need to go to prison.
There are people that believe this,

1256
01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:54.159
that think that that's the right way
to be and those are usually on the

1257
01:32:54.199 --> 01:32:59.760
liberal side. And now the battle
is switched and now the government getting back

1258
01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:01.760
in wild because on a local level, on a state level, like b

1259
01:33:01.880 --> 01:33:05.920
Pete was pointing out, these are
exactly the people who would interfere and intermix

1260
01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:11.720
with your rights as a parent.
So what are your thoughts on this.

1261
01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:14.760
I'm not asking for you to take
a position even I just want to know

1262
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:17.960
what you think about this odd merry
go round of Well, you didn't like

1263
01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:21.359
the nanti state authority when it came
from the Democrats, how about when it

1264
01:33:21.399 --> 01:33:27.119
comes from us, even if it
is for the right reason. And of

1265
01:33:27.119 --> 01:33:31.119
course the Democrats who want to force
SSRI medications down the kids' throats, send

1266
01:33:31.119 --> 01:33:35.600
them the psychological reevaluations and re education, who want to sit there and do

1267
01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:40.760
damage to kids on their behalf because
it's in their best interest a lot of

1268
01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:45.279
different other ways, whether it's screwing
up their brain chemistry or messing up their

1269
01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:49.439
psychology, or justifying their bad behavior, or whatever else it is they're doing

1270
01:33:49.479 --> 01:33:54.640
on the Democrats side. Now you
have it coming from the conservative side where

1271
01:33:54.640 --> 01:33:59.159
the government needs to step in.
Do I agree that anybody should be mutilating

1272
01:33:59.199 --> 01:34:02.319
children, whether it's parents are not. Absolutely not. But here we go

1273
01:34:02.439 --> 01:34:05.439
with this argument. What are your
thoughts on that, because that's what I

1274
01:34:05.479 --> 01:34:10.159
think came out when they pressed Christy
on this and he said, well,

1275
01:34:10.239 --> 01:34:14.479
I kind of stand on the side
of parents ought to have supremacy. I

1276
01:34:14.520 --> 01:34:17.840
agree with b. Pete also not
a realistic position, although it's a wishful

1277
01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:27.119
one. What are your thoughts vance
Well, obviously, you know, everybody

1278
01:34:27.239 --> 01:34:32.159
knows, he knows I'm for you
know, have the opinion that the government

1279
01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:36.079
has been a nanty state and it's
a you know fact, even been writing

1280
01:34:36.119 --> 01:34:41.159
about it since eighteen early nineteen hundreds
and stuff. You know, it's been

1281
01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:44.960
a nanny state for a long time, and that since that, you know,

1282
01:34:45.079 --> 01:34:48.359
the keeper have been trained to look
at the government as their you know,

1283
01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:55.239
parental figure, and so they,
you know, can push all these

1284
01:34:55.279 --> 01:35:00.560
things through. But apparently, you
know, even throughout the court, you

1285
01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:04.359
know, amending the Constitution and all
that. I can't remember the you know,

1286
01:35:05.079 --> 01:35:08.960
one of them a members fourteen thirteen
something, you know, kind of

1287
01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:15.920
basically made it to where everyone was
now a you know, a possession you

1288
01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:18.880
know, under the authority of the
central government of the federal government, I

1289
01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:23.520
mean, and which was never supposed
to be the case. You know,

1290
01:35:23.640 --> 01:35:28.600
all states had their own rights,
and most states you know enshrined people's individual

1291
01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:32.600
rights. And obviously you have you
know, should have control over your children.

1292
01:35:32.680 --> 01:35:35.800
For you know, when I was
in high school, you know,

1293
01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:41.119
they didn't have a d D because
you know, they had corporal punishment and

1294
01:35:41.239 --> 01:35:45.399
so you got licks if you you
know, acted up in class, which

1295
01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:47.520
you know didn't keep a lot of
people from acting up per se or whatever.

1296
01:35:47.640 --> 01:35:51.920
But you know, there was you
know, there was some phrases you

1297
01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:57.239
know going along that you know,
I was a child of a basically a

1298
01:35:57.359 --> 01:36:00.359
child was my dad was seventeen and
mom and when I was born, and

1299
01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:04.239
he was pretty abuse abusive and did
a lot of things that you know,

1300
01:36:04.960 --> 01:36:08.800
several things. It wasn't like I
was, you know, the you know

1301
01:36:09.399 --> 01:36:12.960
abused on a daily basis or anything, but you know, he would get

1302
01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:16.560
you know, pretty violent, and
it uh, you know didn't necessarily stop

1303
01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:19.840
me from you know, doing whatever
it was he was whipping my ass about,

1304
01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:25.399
but but you know it did affect
how I you know, view you

1305
01:36:25.439 --> 01:36:29.640
know, my authority against other people
and all that kind of stuff. So

1306
01:36:30.439 --> 01:36:32.840
you know, I guess I'm using
my train of thought here a little bit.

1307
01:36:32.960 --> 01:36:39.239
But but the it's definitely the fact
that they go. You know,

1308
01:36:40.039 --> 01:36:43.119
when when I was in school,
you know that you could smoke into smoking

1309
01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:46.319
area and you know, they didn't
nobody enforce any and you know rules and

1310
01:36:46.359 --> 01:36:49.199
all that kind of stuff. And
you know, my grandparents send me into

1311
01:36:49.239 --> 01:36:51.560
the store to get you know,
a cart and a cigarettes. They sell

1312
01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:55.720
it to me. Nobody cared,
you know, And I'm not saying that's

1313
01:36:55.760 --> 01:37:00.000
necessarily a good thing, but you
know that, you know, if you're

1314
01:37:00.119 --> 01:37:04.119
or wanting to, you know,
you should you know, normally the you

1315
01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:09.560
know, just the basic premises that
you're only allowed to go so far,

1316
01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:12.760
you know, as as a parent, and what you can allow or can't

1317
01:37:12.800 --> 01:37:15.600
allow your kids to do. I
mean, when I was younger, we

1318
01:37:15.640 --> 01:37:18.960
could drink. You know, my
dad would go to Mexico to to uh

1319
01:37:19.119 --> 01:37:23.600
Laredo and go to the Cadillac bar. And you know, we were twelve,

1320
01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:27.239
you know, nine whatever years old, and you know he'd buy us

1321
01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:31.560
of the rainless gin fizzis and you
know, you could drink. You know,

1322
01:37:31.600 --> 01:37:33.840
it wasn't like a big deal.
If your parents gave me a couple

1323
01:37:33.880 --> 01:37:38.760
of drinks while with them, you
know, or whatever was in the the

1324
01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:43.479
world control of the situation. But
yeah, there you go. But I'm

1325
01:37:43.479 --> 01:37:45.000
just saying, but let me,
let me make this point where I was

1326
01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:48.640
going was but you know, that's
a far cry from you know, allowing

1327
01:37:48.720 --> 01:37:54.199
you know, uh, I have
a grandson that you know is that they've

1328
01:37:54.319 --> 01:37:57.199
you know, got into this.
He thinks he's you know, transgender,

1329
01:37:57.279 --> 01:38:01.520
and you know all this and and
you know that's been fomented through these you

1330
01:38:01.520 --> 01:38:05.840
know, social engineering you know,
things that they're putting out. You know,

1331
01:38:08.720 --> 01:38:14.159
you know, he was all he's
a real intelligent child, but you

1332
01:38:14.199 --> 01:38:17.359
know who knows. He's not old
enough to really know, you know yet,

1333
01:38:17.439 --> 01:38:20.319
And so you know, there should
be you know, you know,

1334
01:38:20.439 --> 01:38:26.159
even within the existing laws that until
the child is you know, sixteen or

1335
01:38:26.359 --> 01:38:29.920
or you know, whatever age.
And at that point, even if for

1336
01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:32.079
something like that to happen, they
would have to like petition the court and

1337
01:38:32.199 --> 01:38:35.199
go up here in court and say
I want to have this, you know,

1338
01:38:35.279 --> 01:38:39.199
no matter what, you know,
something like that not just you know,

1339
01:38:39.279 --> 01:38:42.159
make a law where anybody can do
it anytime and don't have to tell

1340
01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:45.439
their parents or and and you know, that's a fine line too, you

1341
01:38:45.479 --> 01:38:49.800
know, with with personal privacy.
But you know, up until some you

1342
01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:54.560
know, uh, standard age.
You know, there should be some kind

1343
01:38:54.600 --> 01:38:58.960
of standardized you know, just like
it is now. Then how it's changed

1344
01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:04.079
already from eighteen just smote to twenty
one and you know all that right,

1345
01:39:04.720 --> 01:39:08.720
No, exactly, And look as
as we're gonna we're gonna go to a

1346
01:39:08.760 --> 01:39:11.439
quick break here and I'm gonna take
it a little over time. Whether BP

1347
01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:14.159
six with me or not, it's
up to him. We're gonna go a

1348
01:39:14.159 --> 01:39:19.079
little overtime tonight because well, starting
January sixth, once again, uh,

1349
01:39:19.319 --> 01:39:24.279
we will be followed by the Age
of Transitions. So Aaron will begin to

1350
01:39:24.279 --> 01:39:28.279
follow us again on Friday nights as
of January sixth, but all the way

1351
01:39:28.359 --> 01:39:32.520
up to and including the New Year's
Revolution, as Uncle calls it. Uh,

1352
01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:36.319
We'll be doing the New Year's Show
here live on OCHELLI dot Com on

1353
01:39:36.359 --> 01:39:42.159
that Sunday. But immediately after that, Aaron Franz and Uncle will return to

1354
01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:45.720
Fridays. So that's the way it's
gonna be. And we have options,

1355
01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:48.720
who knows, maybe I'll start an
hour earlier or do a DJ show on

1356
01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:53.960
Fridays we're gonna expand the block of
shows on Fridays is what we're gonna do.

1357
01:39:54.640 --> 01:39:57.520
Uh but, and who knows what
we're gonna do with Sunday. But

1358
01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:01.119
there's gonna be expansions of other days
as well coming up very soon. But

1359
01:40:01.279 --> 01:40:03.720
until then, this is what we're
doing. And like I said, tonight,

1360
01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:08.199
I'm gonna take it a little longer
so your calls could still get in

1361
01:40:08.560 --> 01:40:12.520
even though we've got only maybe ten
minutes left on the clock in normal time.

1362
01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:15.720
I'm gonna do it a little longer
tonight, just so we have time

1363
01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:19.920
to get to everybody and everything best
we can. Three one nine, five

1364
01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:25.279
two seven five zero one six and
uh Bpete might stick with me, might

1365
01:40:25.319 --> 01:40:27.960
not. We'll see what he feels
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And I'm also joined by my co
host Bpete here on the Friday night open

1443
01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:56.840
mic and hopefully I can be joined
by you. We're gonna go to uh

1444
01:47:56.880 --> 01:48:00.399
we We plan to go about twenty
minutes after, but we'll see how it

1445
01:48:00.520 --> 01:48:03.840
rolls as we go. Forward.
We have Jimmy James looks like joined us

1446
01:48:03.880 --> 01:48:09.319
on the phone lines, and let's
see anybody else new, but Harlan is

1447
01:48:09.359 --> 01:48:13.439
gone. Vance is still there,
and again you could join us three one

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01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:16.319
nine, five, two seven five
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1449
01:48:16.359 --> 01:48:19.800
I've got plenty of open lines for
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1450
01:48:20.600 --> 01:48:26.960
starting January sixth, we're gonna have
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01:48:27.319 --> 01:48:30.640
at ten pm Eastern in this time
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And Uncle will go off at eleven
pm Eastern on Friday nights once again,

1453
01:48:36.399 --> 01:48:39.960
which I think might be one of
the only things that Jimmy James has

1454
01:48:39.960 --> 01:48:43.640
heard tonight that'll make him happy,
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1455
01:48:43.760 --> 01:48:47.479
blockup shows return to Friday. Plus, uh, there's active work going on

1456
01:48:47.600 --> 01:48:51.600
for the DJ shows and stuff like
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1457
01:48:51.840 --> 01:48:59.640
more live stuff and podcast joining Ohelly
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1458
01:49:00.720 --> 01:49:03.359
So, B Pete, are we
ready to let Jimmy James roll?

1459
01:49:05.800 --> 01:49:10.880
Sure enough? All right, I
say we do our best to say nothing

1460
01:49:10.880 --> 01:49:14.239
because he was kind of unhappy in
the chat room. So I say,

1461
01:49:14.239 --> 01:49:16.359
we let him get off his chest
whatever he wants to get off his chest

1462
01:49:16.359 --> 01:49:21.279
to start with, and see where
it goes from there. And uh yeah,

1463
01:49:21.319 --> 01:49:24.960
like I said, we'll get back
around advance and anybody else three one

1464
01:49:25.079 --> 01:49:28.560
nine five two seven five zero one
six or reach out to me Charles dot

1465
01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:33.079
o'celly on Skype if you ask me
to, I can call you into the

1466
01:49:33.159 --> 01:49:38.560
show. So, Jimmy James,
I haven't heard from your fan club in

1467
01:49:38.560 --> 01:49:42.159
a while, but since I just
mentioned them, I probably will, now,

1468
01:49:42.640 --> 01:49:48.600
how you doing. I'm fine.
I hope my friend club nice fan

1469
01:49:49.840 --> 01:49:55.439
club as well. I hope so
too. Nice guys. The two of

1470
01:49:55.479 --> 01:49:57.680
them that I was able to interact
with, there's two of them that I

1471
01:49:57.720 --> 01:50:03.119
know of for sure. Wow,
yeah, there's just one. No,

1472
01:50:03.439 --> 01:50:05.720
for a long time, there was
only one guy that talked to me,

1473
01:50:06.199 --> 01:50:10.119
and he was supposed to start his
Facebook page and I don't think he did.

1474
01:50:11.439 --> 01:50:15.239
Uh. But anyway, there's two
guys for sure, or at least

1475
01:50:15.239 --> 01:50:18.920
it's two profiles on social media.
How about that that appear to be different

1476
01:50:18.920 --> 01:50:23.680
guys. Two guys for sure part
of the Jimmy James fan club. So

1477
01:50:24.600 --> 01:50:28.760
anyway, all up to you,
sir, open Mike, So it's on

1478
01:50:28.800 --> 01:50:43.520
you whatever you want to say.
Well, let's talk about perceptions. Remember

1479
01:50:43.760 --> 01:50:47.840
a few weeks ago, I'll ask
the same question you asked. I believe

1480
01:50:47.960 --> 01:50:54.720
you asked the question something about what
if we took the Jews out of the

1481
01:50:54.760 --> 01:51:00.319
minute least? Was that about right? I said, to theoretic, please,

1482
01:51:00.399 --> 01:51:02.840
what about not if we took him
out, but what if we withdrew

1483
01:51:02.920 --> 01:51:10.479
support and aligned ourselves with those that
are against them, as opposed to continuous

1484
01:51:10.479 --> 01:51:15.000
continuing to align ourselves with them.
Theoretically, would that have a different result?

1485
01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:17.359
Would that have a more positive result
for us? Or not? That

1486
01:51:17.479 --> 01:51:24.479
was the question I asked, Yes, Okay, Well, I'll just to

1487
01:51:24.600 --> 01:51:28.680
take it a step further and say, I want you. I ask you,

1488
01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:32.880
Chuck, what if we actually took
every Jew out of Israel and gave

1489
01:51:32.920 --> 01:51:38.279
them land in America? Do you
think there would be peace in the Middle

1490
01:51:38.319 --> 01:51:46.640
East? Uh? Probably not?
I think exactly. Yeah. Now,

1491
01:51:47.560 --> 01:51:54.199
now let me ask you the exact
question and the reverse if we took every

1492
01:51:54.399 --> 01:52:00.920
Arab out of the Middle East and
brought them to America. God forbid,

1493
01:52:01.399 --> 01:52:06.439
do you think there wippy peace in
the Mid East? Check? Uh?

1494
01:52:06.479 --> 01:52:13.039
Well, I don't know. At
that point, because that, to me

1495
01:52:13.600 --> 01:52:23.600
is a way bigger problem like detaching
people from detaching people from their land,

1496
01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:30.920
right that are there on that on
that scale. What if we brought them

1497
01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:38.680
illegally, I'm not don't even pretend
like it's a real thing. Just say

1498
01:52:38.760 --> 01:52:44.159
I did it somehow magically. All
the Arabs are now in Texas. Yeah,

1499
01:52:44.199 --> 01:52:47.079
I'm trying to address that. If
it was magically, if it magically

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01:52:47.239 --> 01:52:51.720
the Jews. So now only the
Jews are in the Middle East, and

1501
01:52:51.840 --> 01:53:02.920
I suppose what the Lebanese got,
the Turk's way way up there, I

1502
01:53:02.920 --> 01:53:06.399
don't know. Well, there's a
lot of Yeah, they would still be

1503
01:53:08.239 --> 01:53:11.239
do you still think there would be
would there be war? Would there be

1504
01:53:11.359 --> 01:53:14.239
peace? You know there would be
peace? Just say it. No,

1505
01:53:14.279 --> 01:53:17.159
I don't because no, no,
I you asked me the question. I'm

1506
01:53:17.159 --> 01:53:21.359
trying to answer it honestly, because
here's the thing. Uh, taking all

1507
01:53:21.399 --> 01:53:25.560
the Arabs out? Do you mean
only taking the Muslim Arabs out? Or

1508
01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:30.560
do you mean taking the Christian Arabs
out? Because there are significant populations of

1509
01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:33.920
Christian Arabs believe it or not,
in a lot of those places. So

1510
01:53:34.199 --> 01:53:39.319
would you leave them behind it or
no? They've been forced to flee.

1511
01:53:40.119 --> 01:53:43.159
They ain't. They're no more chuck. They they're get forced to flee.

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01:53:43.399 --> 01:53:46.720
Many of them get killed. Most
of them live in America, Okay,

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01:53:47.239 --> 01:53:55.560
instance, for instance, Lebanon as
recently as the nineteen seventies were seventy or

1514
01:53:55.600 --> 01:54:02.920
eighty percent Christian, and now they're
not any damn thing Christian like percent maybe

1515
01:54:03.159 --> 01:54:08.319
gee, what happened to them?
Well, a couple of years ago I

1516
01:54:08.399 --> 01:54:12.600
was in touch with a handful of
eleven Theese guys who were living here,

1517
01:54:13.359 --> 01:54:16.640
who had lots of relatives there,
and they were all Christians. In fact,

1518
01:54:16.760 --> 01:54:21.199
they told me. One of them
told me a crazy story about their

1519
01:54:21.199 --> 01:54:27.960
one uncle who had gotten beaten nearly
to death, uh, because he was

1520
01:54:27.960 --> 01:54:33.319
a Christian guy who had been given
the name by his parents Mohammed. And

1521
01:54:33.359 --> 01:54:40.159
then after they found out that he
wasn't lying about it, they tried to

1522
01:54:40.159 --> 01:54:44.720
correct this, but they told me
this weird story about it, and also

1523
01:54:44.800 --> 01:54:48.079
about their many more relatives that are
still there and practicing Christians. They were

1524
01:54:49.439 --> 01:54:55.359
some of them were, well,
they were not true. That was once

1525
01:54:55.520 --> 01:55:01.039
eighty percent Christian is now twenty percent
Christian because the Muslims chased them out,

1526
01:55:01.279 --> 01:55:04.279
killed them, et cetera. Could
be. Yeah, I could be.

1527
01:55:04.359 --> 01:55:08.199
I'm not saying that you're wrong.
I'm saying that I just know that there

1528
01:55:08.399 --> 01:55:13.399
is a population there still, But
I don't know how large it is,

1529
01:55:13.439 --> 01:55:15.640
how significant it is at all.
I just know that there would have to

1530
01:55:15.640 --> 01:55:19.239
be some left back. Like if
you got twenty percent of that place,

1531
01:55:19.319 --> 01:55:25.000
and then maybe other percentages of other
places. Would you remove all the Christians

1532
01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:28.920
as well and make it only Jewish
land in the all of the Middle East?

1533
01:55:29.439 --> 01:55:38.680
Is that what you're saying would be
the magical thing that happens? Sure?

1534
01:55:38.720 --> 01:55:42.880
Why not just kick out the Muslims
too, the only once causing problems?

1535
01:55:42.960 --> 01:55:48.479
Near as I could tell, we
theoretically, I could go either way.

1536
01:55:48.560 --> 01:55:51.520
I think it could wind up in
a peaceful situation if you remove the

1537
01:55:51.600 --> 01:55:58.159
Muslims entirely. But then again,
I don't know for sure. There could

1538
01:55:58.199 --> 01:56:05.039
be other groups that are not necessarily
represented by religiosity that might have other ideas

1539
01:56:05.119 --> 01:56:12.039
that I'm not fully aware of.
To be honest with you, the Jews

1540
01:56:12.039 --> 01:56:17.119
are pretty sophisticated society. They've moved
on from bashing each other in the heads

1541
01:56:17.199 --> 01:56:24.319
and killing each others. They have
parliaments, they actually vote, They have

1542
01:56:24.600 --> 01:56:31.279
systems of governments, whereas the two
millions so called Palestinians, of course do

1543
01:56:31.479 --> 01:56:42.520
not. Okay, I want and
you want to negotiate with the so called

1544
01:56:42.600 --> 01:56:46.119
Palestinians. Who are you gonna talk
to? Who's your partner in piece?

1545
01:56:46.239 --> 01:56:49.680
Chuck, Yeah, that's a real
good question at this time, because the

1546
01:56:50.239 --> 01:56:58.840
alleged leadership doesn't seem to wield any
power from what I can discern. So

1547
01:56:59.199 --> 01:57:03.279
you are confronted it with what hamas
and oh, what's the other one that

1548
01:57:03.399 --> 01:57:10.159
controls the north supposedly at this point, what's the name of the other group?

1549
01:57:15.760 --> 01:57:21.800
Well, I'm thinking, uh,
bonded by Iram. Well, the

1550
01:57:21.880 --> 01:57:26.399
p l O, as far as
I know, is really a toothless organization

1551
01:57:26.479 --> 01:57:30.239
at this point, much like the
Palestinian authority is pretty much toothless. And

1552
01:57:30.359 --> 01:57:33.920
it seems to me as though the
two organizations that we'll power currently, unless

1553
01:57:33.920 --> 01:57:41.600
I'm misreading it, is Hasbala and
Homas. Uh. Those two organizations seem

1554
01:57:41.640 --> 01:57:46.600
to have uh political sway and sway
over people and action, unless I'm misreading

1555
01:57:46.640 --> 01:57:54.199
it. Well, it's not political
sway they of course. Yeah, there's

1556
01:57:54.279 --> 01:57:58.720
a it's an open air jail,
all right, just like the idiots say.

1557
01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:03.600
What they don't seem to realize in
their thick, idiotic skulls is that

1558
01:58:03.760 --> 01:58:10.960
the tail keepers are their own people. It's not the Jews keeping them every

1559
01:58:11.079 --> 01:58:15.560
day. Millions of those there are
hundreds of thousands of Palestinians used to go

1560
01:58:15.640 --> 01:58:20.840
to work every day in Israel.
It's their own people that are keeping them

1561
01:58:20.880 --> 01:58:26.920
down there and keeping them poor.
All this money that we give to them,

1562
01:58:27.800 --> 01:58:31.800
to the Palestinians, all it does
is from these tunnels, fronds,

1563
01:58:31.880 --> 01:58:39.880
a caves, funds, missiles.
It's getting a little old. Why I

1564
01:58:39.960 --> 01:58:45.920
put these people who are terrorists on
fire with an allied state and I'll get

1565
01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:55.359
it. Okay. I don't know
where that point was brought up tonight here,

1566
01:58:56.279 --> 01:59:00.439
but I don't think it was.
But okay, there's your there's your

1567
01:59:00.520 --> 01:59:03.359
question, h b PTE. You
got any answer for that? Or should

1568
01:59:03.359 --> 01:59:11.119
I go to go to advance on
this? What do you think? Well?

1569
01:59:11.239 --> 01:59:13.840
I agree with Jimmy on a lot
of the issues that are going on

1570
01:59:13.880 --> 01:59:15.600
in the Middle East and some where
the problems lie. But you know,

1571
01:59:15.720 --> 01:59:20.079
you take the case of Gaza.
They hold an election hall, Mosket's bothered

1572
01:59:20.079 --> 01:59:28.000
it in they run everybody else out
of town take over the government. You

1573
01:59:28.039 --> 01:59:30.600
know how much how much money has
been spent from the U n on refugees

1574
01:59:30.640 --> 01:59:35.239
given the Gaza that's just been turned
around and used to create chaos in the

1575
01:59:35.239 --> 01:59:40.439
Middle East. It's it's a no
win situation. But until you can get

1576
01:59:40.520 --> 01:59:43.439
rid of organizations like that, no, you're not going to have any semblance

1577
01:59:43.479 --> 01:59:47.079
of peace. You know, Israel
Street of Rock and a hard place,

1578
01:59:47.119 --> 01:59:51.840
everything, everything surrounding them wants to
end their existence. So you know,

1579
01:59:51.840 --> 01:59:56.560
they got to do what they got
to do. But now I don't I

1580
01:59:56.600 --> 02:00:02.039
don't see peace in the Middle East
anytime soon, for various reasons. Does

1581
02:00:02.359 --> 02:00:10.640
anybody know what the amount of USA
to Gaza was in twenty twenty two?

1582
02:00:11.039 --> 02:00:16.479
By chance, I'm trying to find
that and compare it to Let's see,

1583
02:00:16.560 --> 02:00:20.600
it looks like we have different things
going on fy and twenty twenty two hundred

1584
02:00:20.680 --> 02:00:26.079
nineteen million dollars maybe is that?
Is that? Does that seem accurate to

1585
02:00:26.119 --> 02:00:30.079
you guys? Two hundred and nineteen
million dollars aid to Gaza in twenty twenty

1586
02:00:30.159 --> 02:00:33.840
two? Does that sound about right? He says here from the GAO that

1587
02:00:33.960 --> 02:00:38.760
since nineteen ninety three, the US
government has provided more than seven point six

1588
02:00:38.920 --> 02:00:44.479
billion in the Palestinians. And yeah, since ninety three, seven point six

1589
02:00:44.560 --> 02:00:48.880
billion, and that's in the West
Bank and Gaza. But that's through the

1590
02:00:49.000 --> 02:00:54.640
US Agency for International Development. That's
not county what the UN has thrown in

1591
02:00:55.479 --> 02:01:00.520
on top of everything because of their
special little ball FuG program that they have

1592
02:01:00.720 --> 02:01:05.399
set up that only benefits the Palestinians. Nor the group in the world in

1593
02:01:05.439 --> 02:01:10.640
the history of the world has had
an agency set up for them. You

1594
02:01:10.720 --> 02:01:15.119
have two agencies in the UN.
You have an agency for refugees and then

1595
02:01:15.119 --> 02:01:21.079
you have an agency for Palestinian refugees. They're special people. So trying to

1596
02:01:21.119 --> 02:01:24.720
find a total I don't even think
the UN is going to be honest with

1597
02:01:24.760 --> 02:01:30.840
how much they've spent. Okay,
fair enough. I was just trying to

1598
02:01:30.840 --> 02:01:36.399
look at a comparison between how much
aid has been given to Israel as opposed

1599
02:01:36.439 --> 02:01:45.199
to Gaza, just just by comparison. I was wondering, that's all because

1600
02:01:45.600 --> 02:01:50.319
I've got up the hold on a
minute, Well, I'm just looking at

1601
02:01:50.399 --> 02:01:54.560
monetary amounts. If we have,
you know, a certain amount that's being

1602
02:01:54.560 --> 02:01:57.239
given on one side and a certain
amount that's been given on the other I'm

1603
02:01:57.279 --> 02:02:03.119
just saying, that's just something there. You go giving and there'stional parody between

1604
02:02:03.119 --> 02:02:11.319
the state and a terrorist organization.
There's the perception thing I was talking about.

1605
02:02:11.479 --> 02:02:15.359
Okay, but this isn't about But
it's not about perception. To me,

1606
02:02:15.399 --> 02:02:16.760
what I'm looking at is, Okay, you're making the point that a

1607
02:02:16.800 --> 02:02:23.199
certain amount of money was given to
Gaza and repurposed for the tunnels and for

1608
02:02:23.359 --> 02:02:27.239
terrorism. So I'm saying to myself, Okay, what is the amount of

1609
02:02:27.239 --> 02:02:30.439
money on the other side that was
given to combat that. Let's say,

1610
02:02:31.399 --> 02:02:38.079
okay, what is the comparison.
I'm curious because I'm looking at I don't

1611
02:02:38.119 --> 02:02:42.399
know, three billion dollars in the
same time period. I'm seeing one hundred

1612
02:02:42.439 --> 02:02:45.439
and forty nine million dollars going to
one side as opposed to the other.

1613
02:02:45.880 --> 02:02:49.880
That's all I was looking at,
Not parody between the two things, except

1614
02:02:49.920 --> 02:02:56.319
that they're both receiving funds from the
US, right, I mean they are

1615
02:02:56.359 --> 02:03:01.560
both receiving funds from the US.
That is a logical comparison, isn't it.

1616
02:03:01.720 --> 02:03:10.760
I would just said that we don't
get cash to Israel Ukraine. Our

1617
02:03:11.000 --> 02:03:20.119
aid to them in the form of
military aid. I see well, let's

1618
02:03:20.119 --> 02:03:27.359
see. Let's see. Here's a
little note according let's get this straight.

1619
02:03:27.359 --> 02:03:33.720
Here, according who is this group
I'm trying to there's a dollar amount here

1620
02:03:34.039 --> 02:03:40.720
says the United States has been a
major donor provided more than five point two

1621
02:03:40.800 --> 02:03:44.439
billion through USA since nineteen ninety four. Okay, we said that was up

1622
02:03:44.439 --> 02:03:48.079
to seven. Sure, there's another
group that says the international community has sent

1623
02:03:48.159 --> 02:03:53.039
billions of dollars an age of the
guy's a stript of provide relief to more

1624
02:03:53.039 --> 02:03:57.600
than two million palace Citians living there. From twenty fourteen to twenty twenty,

1625
02:03:57.960 --> 02:04:02.439
you and agency spent nearly four point
five billion dollars in Gaza, including six

1626
02:04:02.560 --> 02:04:09.439
hundred million in twenty twenty alone.
According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and

1627
02:04:09.479 --> 02:04:15.359
Development, aid to Palestinians total over
forty billion between nineteen ninety four and twenty

1628
02:04:15.439 --> 02:04:20.359
twenty. Jesus super married. See
that's the thing, I really you look

1629
02:04:20.399 --> 02:04:25.439
at the amount of money that has
been spent there, and you know the

1630
02:04:25.479 --> 02:04:30.119
majority of it has gone out the
door through corruption. And that's another thing

1631
02:04:30.159 --> 02:04:33.479
too. You know, the Palestinians
have these organizations that are supposed to be

1632
02:04:33.479 --> 02:04:38.159
looking out for them, but the
corruption is so bad. I mean,

1633
02:04:38.199 --> 02:04:43.479
the guys that run Hamas live in
I think they live in Yemen or are

1634
02:04:44.119 --> 02:04:49.319
uh there's another country that they've also
got property holdings in. These guys are

1635
02:04:49.319 --> 02:04:55.359
worth millions of money that they have, you know, skimmed off the top

1636
02:04:55.439 --> 02:04:59.880
of all this aid. And I
mean it's just it's just proof that you

1637
02:05:00.199 --> 02:05:02.319
these people's own government doesn't care about
them. It's just a way to make

1638
02:05:02.399 --> 02:05:08.920
money and line their own pockets.
It's ridiculous. And what are you billion

1639
02:05:09.000 --> 02:05:15.199
dollars? So let me just ask
both of you guys a quick question before

1640
02:05:15.279 --> 02:05:18.239
I come back around advance. And
this is just open question. You know,

1641
02:05:18.319 --> 02:05:24.720
this is me exploring this all right. I see headlines this week about

1642
02:05:24.880 --> 02:05:32.840
the well we need to conflate anti
Semitism with anti Zionism, that both are

1643
02:05:32.880 --> 02:05:40.640
the same thing. Now do you
guys think that that's true and correct?

1644
02:05:40.680 --> 02:05:45.479
And is this House resolution that let's
see palsy and right aificans the announce a

1645
02:05:45.520 --> 02:05:54.119
Republican lead measure. Right, So
there's this Republican lead measure that was proposed

1646
02:05:55.039 --> 02:05:59.960
to basically declare that if you are
anti Zionist, you are also anti Semitic

1647
02:06:00.119 --> 02:06:04.640
and you can't basically. Basically what
they're saying is in my mind that you

1648
02:06:04.680 --> 02:06:15.399
can't possibly object to denounce or criticize
the nation state of Israel or the concept

1649
02:06:15.439 --> 02:06:19.479
by which it is you know there, like, there's no way to separate

1650
02:06:19.520 --> 02:06:25.960
that from you basically being an anti
semi Do you think that that's true?

1651
02:06:26.239 --> 02:06:30.720
I'm asking you, guys openly,
Jimmy James, first off, I'll start

1652
02:06:30.720 --> 02:06:32.920
with you, And do you think
that that is a true and correct thing?

1653
02:06:32.960 --> 02:06:40.000
And this is a good resolution coming
from the Republican led measure in Congress.

1654
02:06:42.199 --> 02:06:45.600
Yes, it's a very good measure. It's one Jewish statement by your

1655
02:06:45.760 --> 02:06:50.159
world. Why should we support it? And does this spill over here?

1656
02:06:50.960 --> 02:06:57.600
Well, let's put it this way. Two percent of the American population is

1657
02:06:57.720 --> 02:07:03.279
Jewish, and yet they account for
sixty percent of the victims of hate crimes.

1658
02:07:03.760 --> 02:07:10.520
There absolutely is a correlation. If
people just happen to hate the US

1659
02:07:10.680 --> 02:07:16.000
state in the world, it's Jewish, that's a little bizarre, it's a

1660
02:07:16.039 --> 02:07:20.760
little queer. On the other hand, there are forty some odd air of

1661
02:07:20.920 --> 02:07:28.800
states, eleven of which are straight
up religious dictatorships, and no one seems

1662
02:07:28.840 --> 02:07:34.000
to have problems with those places.
Oh, I'm an anti theocratic person all

1663
02:07:34.039 --> 02:07:41.560
the way around. But so you
see no problem with effectively, because I

1664
02:07:41.720 --> 02:07:45.720
criticized, denounced don't want to support
the nation state of Israel, then it's

1665
02:07:45.720 --> 02:07:57.800
perfectly acceptable to basically say I'm an
anti Semite because of that. I think

1666
02:07:58.720 --> 02:08:05.359
when this residue, I assume it
was aimed at someone passive members of the

1667
02:08:05.439 --> 02:08:11.199
government or act at the unia,
something like that. It may be,

1668
02:08:11.279 --> 02:08:15.479
but the general idea that these things
should be equated here, you're all for

1669
02:08:15.600 --> 02:08:18.520
it, is what you said.
So I was just curious about that.

1670
02:08:18.520 --> 02:08:22.039
What do you think of it?
Yeah, well, let me ask you

1671
02:08:22.079 --> 02:08:26.640
a question to clarify what you just
said. You don't want to support the

1672
02:08:26.680 --> 02:08:31.079
state of Israel. Does that mean
monetarily or support them as even existing?

1673
02:08:33.119 --> 02:08:35.279
So you know, it depends on
what you say. When you say you

1674
02:08:35.319 --> 02:08:39.119
don't want to support the state of
Israel, do you support their right to

1675
02:08:39.199 --> 02:08:43.479
exist? Well, the truth is
their right to exist is none of my

1676
02:08:43.560 --> 02:08:48.760
damn business. Okay. As for
what it is my government chooses to support,

1677
02:08:48.920 --> 02:08:50.119
I think I have a right to
say if I don't want them to

1678
02:08:50.159 --> 02:08:56.520
support that, or Yemen or Saudi
Arabia or any country in Africa. Name

1679
02:08:56.560 --> 02:09:01.399
it. If I don't want to
be in supportive European nations, I think

1680
02:09:01.439 --> 02:09:05.199
I have a right to state that
and have a right to take away I'm

1681
02:09:05.239 --> 02:09:11.119
getting you know. What I'm getting
at is this though, if you if

1682
02:09:11.119 --> 02:09:15.479
you don't support our monetary support of
the State of Israel, no, that

1683
02:09:15.520 --> 02:09:20.600
doesn't make you in any semi.
If you if you don't support Israel because

1684
02:09:20.640 --> 02:09:24.520
you don't think they have a right
to exist, then yeah, maybe you

1685
02:09:24.640 --> 02:09:28.119
are and Ani semi. So that's
what I'm saying. It depends on in

1686
02:09:28.199 --> 02:09:33.439
what context that you're saying you don't
support them. You know, we we

1687
02:09:33.520 --> 02:09:37.760
provide a lot of money across the
world for a bunch of ridiculous things.

1688
02:09:39.640 --> 02:09:45.479
I don't have a problem with US
monetarily supporting one of our allies. I

1689
02:09:45.479 --> 02:09:48.000
mean, we send money to Germany, we send money to NATO countries we

1690
02:09:48.119 --> 02:09:52.079
support No, we send money to
countries that have said that they want to

1691
02:09:52.119 --> 02:09:54.800
wipe us off the face of the
earth. That's how stupid we are as

1692
02:09:54.800 --> 02:10:03.119
a nation. So if you don't
support our monetary support of Israel, no,

1693
02:10:03.359 --> 02:10:05.520
that does not make you an Aniseemi, not at all. However,

1694
02:10:07.319 --> 02:10:11.920
in the past few years, you've
had a lot of people make the claim

1695
02:10:11.359 --> 02:10:18.000
that they're anti Zionists, they're not
anti Jew. Well, I'm sorry.

1696
02:10:18.039 --> 02:10:22.479
If you're anti Zionist, you're anti
Jew. You know, you can't separate

1697
02:10:22.560 --> 02:10:30.680
the two. Zionism is nothing more
than the supporting the right for Israel to

1698
02:10:30.760 --> 02:10:33.680
exist as a state. Now that
you may have questions about the division of

1699
02:10:33.880 --> 02:10:37.560
property and things of that nature,
but it all goes back to when they

1700
02:10:37.600 --> 02:10:41.479
carved up the Middle East. Anyway, and I've said this before, nobody

1701
02:10:41.520 --> 02:10:46.319
had a problem when they created Jordan. You no one had a problem when

1702
02:10:46.399 --> 02:10:52.000
the countries of Yemen were created.
Nobody had a problem when Lebanon was created.

1703
02:10:52.520 --> 02:10:58.800
Nobody had a problem when Iraq was
created. So you know, no,

1704
02:10:58.000 --> 02:11:01.079
I'll give you a good example.
Well, after World War two,

1705
02:11:01.760 --> 02:11:07.319
Turkey, only basically after World War
One, the Ottoman Empire was busted up,

1706
02:11:07.319 --> 02:11:13.720
you had areas of you had groups
of Armenians in the Turkish area.

1707
02:11:13.800 --> 02:11:20.560
After World War two, they had
decided to give Armenia back to the Armenians,

1708
02:11:20.680 --> 02:11:24.079
and Turkey said no, and they
fought for what almost another two years

1709
02:11:24.800 --> 02:11:30.079
to get that area back. I've
not heard one person ever say to Turkey,

1710
02:11:30.720 --> 02:11:33.600
no, you fought a war.
You took over that land, you

1711
02:11:33.760 --> 02:11:37.840
have to give it back, much
like I've heard a lot of people tell

1712
02:11:39.239 --> 02:11:43.000
Israel, yeah, you went thro
you were as soon as you claimed independence,

1713
02:11:43.680 --> 02:11:48.640
you know, for five states immediately
declared war on you. You took

1714
02:11:48.680 --> 02:11:52.279
over land, Now you've got to
give it back. I've never heard them

1715
02:11:52.319 --> 02:11:58.039
say that to any other country under
any other circumstances. We're starting to hear

1716
02:11:58.039 --> 02:12:03.840
it now about Ukraine and Russia.
But I've never heard anyone ever be accused

1717
02:12:03.840 --> 02:12:09.359
of taking property illegally through war,
except for the Israelis. Now, I

1718
02:12:09.359 --> 02:12:13.960
find that hard to believe. I
don't understand how people have no problem with

1719
02:12:13.039 --> 02:12:20.199
creating five Arab nations, but they
have a problem with creating a Jewish nation

1720
02:12:20.520 --> 02:12:24.840
in an area that historically the Jews
go back to when dirt was created.

1721
02:12:24.560 --> 02:12:31.319
Well, look, Zionism, to
me goes well beyond just that very bland

1722
02:12:31.399 --> 02:12:35.079
definition of the establishment of that state. There's a lot of other stuff in

1723
02:12:35.119 --> 02:12:39.479
there that's discussed in that philosophy that
goes beyond it. But I don't want

1724
02:12:39.479 --> 02:12:41.000
to I don't want to get into
that too deeply. I want to go

1725
02:12:41.079 --> 02:12:46.039
back to the other point, which
is, look, I had objections to

1726
02:12:46.119 --> 02:12:54.560
US funding Pakistan. Okay, it
doesn't mean that I was anti Pakistani or

1727
02:12:54.600 --> 02:13:00.640
anti Muslim. I felt as though
we were funding a state which did not

1728
02:13:00.880 --> 02:13:05.960
have America's best interests in mind.
Regardless of this alleged partnership during the War

1729
02:13:07.000 --> 02:13:09.960
on Terror, I thought it was
a complete misdirection of money and I objected

1730
02:13:11.000 --> 02:13:15.399
to it at that time. Politically, that did not apply to me hating

1731
02:13:16.119 --> 02:13:20.840
or having an issue with the religiosity
of the people there, Okay, even

1732
02:13:20.880 --> 02:13:24.720
though that might have been involved in
part of the reason why they were not

1733
02:13:24.840 --> 02:13:28.880
so pro American. That wasn't about
their religiosity. It was about the political

1734
02:13:28.960 --> 02:13:33.039
stance. It was about the behavior
of that nation state that I objected to.

1735
02:13:33.079 --> 02:13:35.279
I didn't think that we should be
funding it. I didn't think that

1736
02:13:35.520 --> 02:13:43.479
they should be our partner in anything. And that was Pakistan. That's completely

1737
02:13:43.520 --> 02:13:50.039
outside of the Israeli discussion. And
I would say that funding certain things in

1738
02:13:50.079 --> 02:13:54.119
Europe was a bad idea at certain
points. I don't think that we should

1739
02:13:54.119 --> 02:13:58.520
have been involved in a whole lot
of stuff. So that to me is

1740
02:13:58.560 --> 02:14:05.359
not anti Semitic Piano to say,
look, well, maybe we shouldn't be

1741
02:14:05.399 --> 02:14:07.239
funding them. Their right to exist
is none of my business. It was

1742
02:14:07.359 --> 02:14:11.840
like Turkey's right to exist, anybody
else's is not my business. You go

1743
02:14:11.880 --> 02:14:22.600
ahead, good, Jimmy. See
the big difference it is the history of

1744
02:14:22.680 --> 02:14:28.079
the Jews, what they went through, particularly in World War Two. There's

1745
02:14:28.199 --> 02:14:33.560
like fifteen million of them on the
planet Earth at this point. They're a

1746
02:14:33.680 --> 02:14:39.600
very unique case. What happened to
them in World War Two, and it's

1747
02:14:39.640 --> 02:14:46.239
not and they were four thousand years
they were persecuted by Europeans. I think

1748
02:14:46.239 --> 02:14:52.079
it's a good thing they had their
homeland, okay, but we not just

1749
02:14:52.159 --> 02:14:56.520
Eufps. They've been persecuted all over
the world. You know, you go

1750
02:14:56.600 --> 02:15:05.119
back to win when Babbel, when
Babylon went in there and just totally pull

1751
02:15:05.159 --> 02:15:07.359
the whole place up, and then
everybody went into exile. You know,

1752
02:15:07.439 --> 02:15:11.920
you had Jews that were settling in
different parts of the world, and you

1753
02:15:11.000 --> 02:15:16.960
had laws. I mean, these
areas would go out and effectively create laws

1754
02:15:16.000 --> 02:15:20.520
saying to Jewish you can't do this, you can't be in this profession,

1755
02:15:20.560 --> 02:15:24.800
you can't do that. I mean, they've been persecuted all over the world.

1756
02:15:24.520 --> 02:15:30.079
So it's the last exile. So
you know, it's not just Europe,

1757
02:15:30.560 --> 02:15:37.800
it's kind of everywhere. Well,
much like people make the argument that

1758
02:15:37.479 --> 02:15:43.079
black people have been the only slaves, which is absolutely ludicrous and ridiculous in

1759
02:15:43.239 --> 02:15:48.640
history, I would say that there's
been other people that have been genocided one

1760
02:15:48.680 --> 02:15:52.640
way or another. There's lots of
them, not too many of them.

1761
02:15:54.199 --> 02:15:56.000
You know, there's a whole bunch
of people that have been effectively wiped out.

1762
02:15:56.039 --> 02:16:05.199
I mean there's various Oh look at
the maid Yeah, you still can't

1763
02:16:05.239 --> 02:16:09.319
get Turkey to admit that there was
an Armenian genocide. Other countries in the

1764
02:16:09.359 --> 02:16:13.039
past few years have finally started recognizing
it that you know, you look at

1765
02:16:13.079 --> 02:16:18.439
that situation. We've not gone to
Turkey and said, hey, you got

1766
02:16:18.479 --> 02:16:22.399
to give Armenia back, But yet
we're quick to tell the Jews that they've

1767
02:16:22.439 --> 02:16:26.520
got to give up property to a
bunch of Arabs that are living within their

1768
02:16:26.159 --> 02:16:31.000
borders, simply because they didn't like
the land deal. Well, a lot

1769
02:16:31.040 --> 02:16:35.200
of people didn't like no land deal
with Jordan, you know, a lot

1770
02:16:35.239 --> 02:16:37.799
of people didn't like the when they
when they carved up when the French and

1771
02:16:37.840 --> 02:16:43.079
the British and decided to go in
there and carve things up, they created

1772
02:16:43.120 --> 02:16:48.200
a situation where there's going to be
perpetual war even if you removed every Jew

1773
02:16:48.280 --> 02:16:52.239
from the area, because you've got
so much tribal conflict that's been going on

1774
02:16:52.319 --> 02:16:58.879
over the years. They blatantly just
cut up, they cut up areas that

1775
02:16:58.959 --> 02:17:03.440
were predominantly one tribe or one group. And they've done it in every nation

1776
02:17:03.639 --> 02:17:11.520
that they cut up, from Jordan
to Lebanon to Iraq. It's crazy a

1777
02:17:11.600 --> 02:17:16.639
situation for a professional war. You
look at what happened in Afghanistan long before

1778
02:17:16.680 --> 02:17:20.399
we got there, where the Russians
got there. Uh, you have a

1779
02:17:20.440 --> 02:17:26.040
similar sort of circumstance where you have
nothing but warlords and a tribal situation that

1780
02:17:26.479 --> 02:17:30.559
Look at the Kurds. You've got
the Kurds that are in Afghanistan, You've

1781
02:17:30.559 --> 02:17:33.239
got them in Iraq, and you've
got them through Iran scattered everywhere, no

1782
02:17:33.319 --> 02:17:37.200
Kurdistan. Yeah, they've been scattered
everywhere because of borders that were put down

1783
02:17:37.239 --> 02:17:43.159
on paper by the French and the
British years ago. You know, it's

1784
02:17:43.159 --> 02:17:46.600
like Jami said, Lebanon was was
created to have a Christian nation in the

1785
02:17:46.639 --> 02:17:52.760
Middle East, and you had the
p l O that got they were in

1786
02:17:52.799 --> 02:17:58.600
the West Bank when Jordan controlled it. They wanted their own countries. So

1787
02:17:58.680 --> 02:18:03.840
what are they do. They try
to kill the emperor and they killed one

1788
02:18:03.840 --> 02:18:07.319
of the ministers and Jordans Jordan kicked
them out. They go to Lebanon,

1789
02:18:07.440 --> 02:18:11.680
create all kinds of hate and discontent
up there, to the point that it's

1790
02:18:11.680 --> 02:18:16.159
hard to find a Christian in Lebanon
anymore because of what's been going on with

1791
02:18:16.879 --> 02:18:22.680
the Palestinians, rabble rousing everywhere they
go. Egypt doesn't want them in.

1792
02:18:22.799 --> 02:18:26.159
You know, that's the funny thing. People forget. Goz is bordered on

1793
02:18:26.239 --> 02:18:28.719
three sides by Israel, but there's
a border with Egypt, and Egypt's kept

1794
02:18:28.719 --> 02:18:35.200
that thing closed until here recently letting
in some humanitarian aid because they don't want

1795
02:18:35.239 --> 02:18:39.479
to have to put up with them. Palestinians try to kill everybody that's in

1796
02:18:39.600 --> 02:18:45.120
charge of anywhere that they're at.
You're going to have a perpetual battle going

1797
02:18:45.120 --> 02:18:48.680
on over there. Well, anyway, we've gone to the twenty minute after

1798
02:18:48.799 --> 02:18:54.319
mark and well actually we're at the
thirty minutes after mark now. So look,

1799
02:18:54.600 --> 02:18:58.159
I'll leave it to you, Bpete
to come with a way to close

1800
02:18:58.200 --> 02:19:01.520
this out. I think we let
Jimmy say what he wanted to say.

1801
02:19:01.719 --> 02:19:03.479
I asked a couple of questions,
though I don't know how we got to

1802
02:19:03.479 --> 02:19:07.719
the Palestindian thing, because I thought
we were going to talk about the views

1803
02:19:07.719 --> 02:19:11.879
of America there according to what was
in the chat room. But I was

1804
02:19:11.920 --> 02:19:15.360
mistaken. Jimmy had something else he
wanted to get out, and I think

1805
02:19:15.399 --> 02:19:20.360
I'll let you get it out,
Jimmy, yes or no, Yes,

1806
02:19:20.920 --> 02:19:26.360
I bought something in the chat room, but I decided to just let that

1807
02:19:26.399 --> 02:19:35.159
one go. Okay, let me
ask you. Yeah, yeah, sometimes

1808
02:19:35.239 --> 02:19:39.639
we just fair enough. Let me
ask you a question that'll give us a

1809
02:19:39.639 --> 02:19:43.479
good pivot and maybe get us on
out of here. This way we can

1810
02:19:43.520 --> 02:19:46.520
go back around advance or anybody else
that happens to be on the line,

1811
02:19:46.559 --> 02:19:50.719
which looks like it's just advancing you, uh, and give Bep the final

1812
02:19:50.760 --> 02:19:54.440
word here too. So this odd
thing about Michigan that I take note of

1813
02:19:54.680 --> 02:19:58.079
is that I know about six people
in Michigan that I interact with. Talk

1814
02:19:58.200 --> 02:20:05.760
to A and I'll include you.
Right, you all tell me a completely

1815
02:20:05.760 --> 02:20:09.840
different story about what Michigan is like. Every last one of you has a

1816
02:20:11.040 --> 02:20:16.600
very different view. It almost sounds
like you're talking about different countries because of

1817
02:20:16.680 --> 02:20:22.399
the diverse experience that you guys are
having in Michigan. You know, and

1818
02:20:22.440 --> 02:20:26.559
I take note that in different parts
of America people have different experiences. I

1819
02:20:26.639 --> 02:20:31.040
really think that that's true. So
what is the deal with Michigan? Why

1820
02:20:31.120 --> 02:20:33.040
is it that you know, some
people will swear to me it's libertarian,

1821
02:20:33.159 --> 02:20:39.079
it's Republican, it's democrat. It's
too liberal, it's way too right wing.

1822
02:20:39.200 --> 02:20:45.000
I mean, everybody's got these totally
different alien descriptions about the moral character,

1823
02:20:45.479 --> 02:20:50.000
political setup, and the people of
Michigan. And I'm not just talking

1824
02:20:50.040 --> 02:20:54.959
about the difference between Detroit and like, you know, the more rural kind

1825
02:20:54.000 --> 02:20:58.600
of parts of Michigan. I guess
if that's what would you call that rural?

1826
02:20:58.719 --> 02:21:01.159
I guess, well, the non
city parts of Michigan? How about

1827
02:21:01.200 --> 02:21:05.680
that versus like Detroit and I don't
know Flint. Uh. But but I

1828
02:21:05.680 --> 02:21:09.040
mean, seriously, why is it
so diverse? What is the story with

1829
02:21:09.120 --> 02:21:16.520
that? Can you tell me?
Yes? Go ahead, Michigan. If

1830
02:21:16.719 --> 02:21:22.959
if the people had it their way, they would split themselves into three states.

1831
02:21:24.760 --> 02:21:28.719
There's down State, then there's up
North, and then there's the Upper

1832
02:21:28.799 --> 02:21:37.200
Peninsula. Okay, uh, Dald
state, they're flaming liberals. You move

1833
02:21:37.319 --> 02:21:41.719
up, I guess there would be
a libertarian match, and then you go

1834
02:21:41.799 --> 02:21:48.360
into the up. Well, now
you're talking about some serious, uh,

1835
02:21:50.879 --> 02:21:58.000
serious conservative folks. Okay, So
it's almost like you have three sections of

1836
02:21:58.079 --> 02:22:01.440
Michigan that are exactly as diverse as
I'm saying. Where it's like somebody swears

1837
02:22:01.440 --> 02:22:05.159
to me it's a libertarian place.
Somebody swears to me it's totally liberal.

1838
02:22:05.479 --> 02:22:09.799
Somebody else swears to me it's totally
conservative. Depending on what section you were

1839
02:22:09.799 --> 02:22:18.280
in in Michigan. They're not lying, they're telling the truth absolutely. Okay,

1840
02:22:18.319 --> 02:22:20.280
fair enough, I wanted to know
that. Thank you. So what

1841
02:22:20.280 --> 02:22:28.920
would you like to conclude with tonight? Oh not I I'm sorry. It

1842
02:22:30.079 --> 02:22:37.639
was a good we can help us
well. Appreciate you, Jimmy, and

1843
02:22:37.680 --> 02:22:41.120
also appreciate that you don't always want
to fight. That's a great thing.

1844
02:22:41.239 --> 02:22:46.520
We don't have to fight over every
single thing. After all, We could

1845
02:22:46.639 --> 02:22:50.440
just decide to not take up every
single fight. I wish other people did

1846
02:22:50.440 --> 02:22:54.120
that more often because it might make
for a nicer world. We have significant

1847
02:22:54.159 --> 02:22:58.879
issues that we need to sort,
but not everything has to be a battle,

1848
02:22:58.079 --> 02:23:01.120
right, anyway, I like that
call. I liked I liked how

1849
02:23:01.200 --> 02:23:05.079
Jimmy had a pivot there. He
changed things and also informed us of a

1850
02:23:05.079 --> 02:23:07.760
couple of things and gave us his
point of view on something else. So

1851
02:23:07.399 --> 02:23:11.200
that was pretty cool. Uh.
Should I go to Vance next to me?

1852
02:23:11.319 --> 02:23:15.680
Peter, you want to drop some
some knowledge here? No, go

1853
02:23:15.680 --> 02:23:18.120
ahead and go to Vance. Okay, fair enough, and then I want

1854
02:23:18.159 --> 02:23:20.600
to turn the rest of the show
like over to you to say what you

1855
02:23:20.639 --> 02:23:24.479
want to say or close it out. I'll give you the final word on

1856
02:23:24.520 --> 02:23:30.200
it after Vance has Uh has his
moment here, Vance, you should be

1857
02:23:30.319 --> 02:23:33.360
back on the line, I think. So. I don't know if I

1858
02:23:33.399 --> 02:23:37.760
put you to sleep or whatever cut
you off prematurely, but you know,

1859
02:23:37.840 --> 02:23:39.680
here we go, take your final
turn at the mic if you like,

1860
02:23:43.280 --> 02:23:48.399
I don't know, I can't start
the this. You know, at the

1861
02:23:48.520 --> 02:23:52.319
end of the story and justify everything. You know, you got to go

1862
02:23:52.440 --> 02:23:56.120
back and figure out. Like I
say, there's a whole long history of

1863
02:23:56.280 --> 02:24:00.520
you know, the Middle East and
the Christian and Muslims, and you know

1864
02:24:00.680 --> 02:24:03.920
Zionism the way I understand it.
You know it has been around for a

1865
02:24:03.959 --> 02:24:09.399
long time, and that you know
they considered Alaska they considered the place in

1866
02:24:09.479 --> 02:24:13.520
Africa. There was all kinds of
places they considered, you know, where

1867
02:24:13.559 --> 02:24:16.360
to create this you know state.
And so you know, yes, you

1868
02:24:16.799 --> 02:24:20.719
can be anti Zionist and not be
anti Jew. There's lots of Jews that

1869
02:24:20.799 --> 02:24:26.399
don't support that Zionist ideology. And
that it was like that, it was

1870
02:24:26.440 --> 02:24:28.879
like the eighteen nineties. I think
Man's right when that movement is recognized to

1871
02:24:28.879 --> 02:24:33.479
have started, I think in the
eighteen nineties something like that. Yeah,

1872
02:24:33.639 --> 02:24:37.920
and so you know, the you
know, I don't know how we can

1873
02:24:39.040 --> 02:24:41.879
you know that, you know,
America was supposedly you know, established on

1874
02:24:43.079 --> 02:24:48.719
the religious freedom and all that kind
of stuff. You know, and you

1875
02:24:48.760 --> 02:24:54.239
know, you can look up the
definition of Holocaust and you know what's been

1876
02:24:54.280 --> 02:24:58.079
going on in Palestine because they were
you know, there was an agreement and

1877
02:24:58.120 --> 02:25:01.959
they issued they gave so much land
the Palestine, so much land to Israel.

1878
02:25:01.200 --> 02:25:05.840
And you can look at the maps
that are online now where Israel is

1879
02:25:05.920 --> 02:25:09.840
encroached and encroached and you know,
took took more land, you know,

1880
02:25:09.079 --> 02:25:13.639
justified and Jimmy saying that Hamas is
the one that holds them hostage. A

1881
02:25:13.719 --> 02:25:18.040
most didn't build the wall Amster didn't
run all the checkpoints that people have to

1882
02:25:18.079 --> 02:25:20.120
go through just to even go to
the hospital in the middle of the night

1883
02:25:20.159 --> 02:25:24.280
because they're pregnant. So they sit
there at the checkpoint and have the babies

1884
02:25:24.319 --> 02:25:28.399
on the checkpoint, or the baby
dies because they don't get to the hospital

1885
02:25:28.399 --> 02:25:30.799
in time because they got to go
through all this. So you know,

1886
02:25:30.920 --> 02:25:35.440
no, it's not just that simple
as they're saying. Hamas was created and

1887
02:25:35.559 --> 02:25:41.479
foot and supported by the government of
Israel. They helped establish and you'll find

1888
02:25:41.520 --> 02:25:45.399
the ties to that and the buzz
and brotherhood, and you're going to look

1889
02:25:45.440 --> 02:25:50.799
to the Muslim Brotherhood and find out
how the CIA was involved in making that

1890
02:25:50.920 --> 02:25:54.000
an instrumental force, you know,
because back in the nineteen twenties there wasn't

1891
02:25:54.079 --> 02:25:58.719
enough Arab conflict going on to suit
them, so they needed to you know,

1892
02:25:58.000 --> 02:26:03.239
create a group that's going you know, force some confrontations. So you

1893
02:26:03.280 --> 02:26:07.079
know, we you know, indirectly, we flending a whole lot more than

1894
02:26:07.200 --> 02:26:09.479
just you know, Israel and all
that. And so you know, some

1895
02:26:09.520 --> 02:26:13.120
people that are you know, military
don't really want to you know, accept

1896
02:26:13.120 --> 02:26:16.760
that fact, even though it's an
open secret. You know, there's a

1897
02:26:16.760 --> 02:26:18.479
lot to this advance. Let me
throw something at you, and throw this

1898
02:26:18.559 --> 02:26:26.719
to everybody who called in and everybody
who is listening. I'm taking editorials verbal

1899
02:26:26.840 --> 02:26:30.920
editorials from people. If they want
to run something about ten minutes, okay,

1900
02:26:30.959 --> 02:26:33.000
with like a ten minute time limit
on it, and they want to

1901
02:26:33.040 --> 02:26:37.000
send me an audio. If you
got something coherent that you want to lay

1902
02:26:37.040 --> 02:26:43.639
out regarding say this issue or another
one, something that you think is important,

1903
02:26:43.319 --> 02:26:48.000
you can send it to me.
I am assembling these short op eds

1904
02:26:48.040 --> 02:26:52.639
that I want to start running okay
on the network and maybe as many podcasts.

1905
02:26:54.079 --> 02:26:56.639
So here's the thing. If you
wanted to assemble something on this and

1906
02:26:56.680 --> 02:27:03.559
take ten minutes to break it down
all the way uninterrupted, unimpeded by anybody,

1907
02:27:03.000 --> 02:27:07.319
and send me that recording, or
if you want my assistance to record

1908
02:27:07.799 --> 02:27:13.639
your ten minute piece, contact me
blind JFK researcher at gmail dot com.

1909
02:27:13.200 --> 02:27:18.120
Send me your audio. If you
can record it in MP three form,

1910
02:27:18.159 --> 02:27:22.719
that would be best, and I
will run it. If you send me

1911
02:27:22.799 --> 02:27:26.319
something coherent that makes an interesting point, I'll run that. I'll run answers

1912
02:27:26.360 --> 02:27:30.639
to those if people hear them and
say, oh, that pissed me off.

1913
02:27:30.879 --> 02:27:33.680
He just said inaccurate things you want
to answer it, I'll run answers.

1914
02:27:33.799 --> 02:27:39.559
I will run op eds in a
verbal form audio if people want to

1915
02:27:39.600 --> 02:27:43.120
send them to me, or if
you again want my help recording it,

1916
02:27:43.239 --> 02:27:46.840
I will do that, not with
me talking to you, just you talking

1917
02:27:48.120 --> 02:27:50.799
ten minutes, ten minutes or less. If you can do it and less

1918
02:27:50.799 --> 02:27:56.319
do it and less ten minutes,
make a point and go ahead and nail

1919
02:27:56.319 --> 02:27:58.799
it down. Maybe we'll play some
on the show. Maybe we'll just release

1920
02:27:58.840 --> 02:28:03.200
some as many podcasts. Maybe we'll
run them through the live stream and the

1921
02:28:03.280 --> 02:28:07.959
replay stream. So there you go. There's an opportunity, and I could

1922
02:28:09.000 --> 02:28:13.879
attach them to some people's articles that
get submitted as well, or articles that

1923
02:28:13.920 --> 02:28:18.000
are picked up that are being run
on the website. I'm looking to integrate

1924
02:28:18.079 --> 02:28:22.799
this into a multimedia magazine type format
at some point, also keep the podcast

1925
02:28:22.879 --> 02:28:26.479
going, so both things will be
happening. So dvance. If at some

1926
02:28:26.600 --> 02:28:31.920
point you wanted to do a monologue
about this, or if you wanted to

1927
02:28:31.920 --> 02:28:35.120
do a monologue about anything else and
you wanted to submit it to me,

1928
02:28:35.239 --> 02:28:39.239
only you and six am I going
to invite from the TNP universe to do

1929
02:28:39.360 --> 02:28:45.159
this. But I've invited a bunch
of people that I think are intelligent and

1930
02:28:45.200 --> 02:28:48.840
could make coherent points. And if
you're hearing the sound of my voice right

1931
02:28:48.840 --> 02:28:52.840
now and you think you're intelligent and
have a coherent point to make about this

1932
02:28:54.120 --> 02:29:00.600
or any other topic, please do
contact me blind JFK researcher at gmail dot

1933
02:29:00.639 --> 02:29:05.479
com. Send me the audio,
and again, if it's coherent, decent

1934
02:29:05.559 --> 02:29:09.440
sound quality, or I can work
with it, I will make sure other

1935
02:29:09.520 --> 02:29:15.840
people hear it directly unedited. If
you send me an unedited piece that doesn't

1936
02:29:15.879 --> 02:29:20.239
require any editing, I would be
more than happy to not edit what you

1937
02:29:20.280 --> 02:29:24.760
say. Send it to me and
we'll run editorials in an audio form.

1938
02:29:26.799 --> 02:29:33.239
Does that sound like a fair idea
of BPTE. Sure, there you go.

1939
02:29:33.040 --> 02:29:35.440
And this way, you're not trying
to force it into a couple of

1940
02:29:35.520 --> 02:29:39.879
minutes on the call in show,
or you're not frustrated in the chat room,

1941
02:29:39.239 --> 02:29:43.200
or you're not sitting there going man, I wish I could tell people

1942
02:29:43.200 --> 02:29:46.840
this or that, send it to
me. You got to identify yourself some

1943
02:29:46.959 --> 02:29:50.319
way. You got to give yourself
a name or have a name, and

1944
02:29:50.520 --> 02:29:54.000
uh, yeah, let me know
what I'm running And who knows, maybe

1945
02:29:54.000 --> 02:29:58.200
I'll put some extra stuff on it
to support your points, your references.

1946
02:29:58.239 --> 02:30:01.559
If you want to send me references
along with the audio, great, do

1947
02:30:01.719 --> 02:30:05.680
part of my job for me,
but send it to me blind JFK researcher

1948
02:30:05.799 --> 02:30:11.600
at gmail dot com, and I
will run your editorial pieces. Vance.

1949
02:30:11.639 --> 02:30:15.000
I'm inviting you directly. I think
I sent you a text to this effect,

1950
02:30:15.239 --> 02:30:18.799
but I'm inviting you directly, and
I'm inviting Harlan. I'm inviting everybody,

1951
02:30:18.879 --> 02:30:24.239
but mainly you know, I would
like my listeners, my people to

1952
02:30:24.280 --> 02:30:26.959
do this, But other podcasters,
maybe I'll take some of those. Maybe

1953
02:30:26.959 --> 02:30:31.040
I'll take some writers. I'll take
some other people. I've only got Alan

1954
02:30:31.079 --> 02:30:33.879
Dale agreeing to do a steady one
with me. But but you know,

1955
02:30:35.440 --> 02:30:39.120
every month, i'm gonna be gonna
be running these starting in January, so

1956
02:30:39.200 --> 02:30:41.120
please send them to me, and
if I get a bunch of them now,

1957
02:30:41.360 --> 02:30:46.559
i'll start them in December. So
anyway, Vance, I appreciate what

1958
02:30:46.559 --> 02:30:48.879
you're trying to cover, but you're
never gonna cover at all in one shot.

1959
02:30:48.920 --> 02:30:54.760
You also put a video in the
chat room. I think. So

1960
02:30:54.879 --> 02:30:58.479
what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna
grab the audio for Yeah, it's about

1961
02:30:58.479 --> 02:31:03.079
a video, I know, but
anyway that's dealing with you know, some

1962
02:31:03.200 --> 02:31:09.760
credible, you know indications that Israel, you know, was very involved in

1963
02:31:09.799 --> 02:31:13.559
the creation of a mus And you
know, since we live in a war

1964
02:31:13.639 --> 02:31:16.600
economy, you know, war is
good, so you know, yeah,

1965
02:31:16.639 --> 02:31:20.040
to make sure you have a have
a good you know, reason to be

1966
02:31:20.200 --> 02:31:24.840
having wars all the time, because
you know, the military industrial complex don't

1967
02:31:24.840 --> 02:31:28.639
make no profit if it ain't for
that. So, you know, I'm

1968
02:31:28.639 --> 02:31:31.680
so sick and tired of all this
anti Semitism crap too, because the word

1969
02:31:31.799 --> 02:31:41.120
semit means anybody in the of the
the tribes descended from Seth or in it

1970
02:31:41.280 --> 02:31:46.239
Seth or the shim Shim don't.
So you know, all Arabs, Arabs,

1971
02:31:46.319 --> 02:31:50.799
Muslims, they're all they're all Semites. They're all from the Semitic they're

1972
02:31:50.959 --> 02:31:54.879
tribes. And so you know,
if you don't like Palestinians, you're anti

1973
02:31:54.920 --> 02:31:58.760
Semitic. If you don't like Arabs, you're anti Semitic. You don't like

1974
02:31:58.840 --> 02:32:01.760
Jews, you're anti Semitic. You
know. But they've cornered the market on

1975
02:32:01.840 --> 02:32:05.159
that and use it as a weapon
to you know, shut down anybody that

1976
02:32:05.280 --> 02:32:09.520
doesn't support them doing whatever they want
to do whenever they want to do it,

1977
02:32:09.559 --> 02:32:13.399
because they have a right to exist. Well, you know who doesn't

1978
02:32:13.399 --> 02:32:16.600
have a right to exist is the
decides whether you have a right to exist

1979
02:32:16.719 --> 02:32:22.200
or not do the Aztecs have claimed
to come back and you know, take

1980
02:32:22.239 --> 02:32:26.840
overall in North America because they they
were here first, right, you know,

1981
02:32:26.159 --> 02:32:31.200
so you know that's what. Yeah, it's a dicey thing. And

1982
02:32:31.200 --> 02:32:35.559
look, I personally, I just
have this problem with being told who I

1983
02:32:35.639 --> 02:32:39.639
hate, because I don't hate any
group of people. I just don't.

1984
02:32:41.799 --> 02:32:46.399
I can object to group behaviors,
I can object to the nation state behaviors.

1985
02:32:48.159 --> 02:32:50.600
Again, like I said, I'm
not pleased with Pakistan uh and I

1986
02:32:50.639 --> 02:32:54.760
didn't like that we supported them.
I don't like that we did a bunch

1987
02:32:54.760 --> 02:32:58.239
of things. I don't like that
we bail out the banks here. It's

1988
02:32:58.239 --> 02:33:01.079
not like, well, I guess
I kind of hate I hate some people

1989
02:33:01.120 --> 02:33:03.959
based on their occupations, their choices, the things that they do that are

1990
02:33:05.000 --> 02:33:09.520
destructive. I think the banking industry
has not done US any favors collectively,

1991
02:33:09.959 --> 02:33:11.959
you know, the majority of US. I don't think that the government should

1992
02:33:11.959 --> 02:33:16.840
have bailed them out either. But
but but here we go. My objection

1993
02:33:16.959 --> 02:33:22.479
to US funding Israel is not about
Budge don't like Jews. That that's not

1994
02:33:22.600 --> 02:33:26.159
it. You know, why are
we funded? I mean, Egypt is

1995
02:33:26.159 --> 02:33:33.799
the second biggest recipient of foreign aid, I believe, and then Lebanons like

1996
02:33:33.879 --> 02:33:37.479
right in there, and you know
whatever you all talking about Gaza that doesn't

1997
02:33:37.520 --> 02:33:41.879
even appear on the list, you
know, that's on Wikipedia. I think

1998
02:33:41.920 --> 02:33:43.760
at all times we should question it. Yeah, I think at all times

1999
02:33:43.760 --> 02:33:46.479
we should question all of this.
And people were, you know, questioning

2000
02:33:46.479 --> 02:33:50.760
whether we should fund Ukraine, you
know, but aren't you anti war?

2001
02:33:50.520 --> 02:33:54.760
Uh? Yeah, I'm anti war, but I'm also anti stupid and and

2002
02:33:56.040 --> 02:33:58.680
you know what I think is strategically
poor thinking. So I think it's a

2003
02:33:58.719 --> 02:34:05.639
bad idea not to back up Ukraine
in this circumstance. And that gets me

2004
02:34:05.680 --> 02:34:09.959
in trouble too, you know.
But here's the thing I'm thinking about this,

2005
02:34:11.200 --> 02:34:13.479
not as well. I like Ukrainians. I don't like Russians. I

2006
02:34:15.239 --> 02:34:18.159
like Jews, I don't like Jews, I like Palestinians, I don't like

2007
02:34:18.200 --> 02:34:22.159
Arabs, none of that. It's
not about dislike or a problem with a

2008
02:34:22.200 --> 02:34:26.200
group of people. It's about to
me, what I think is you know,

2009
02:34:26.239 --> 02:34:30.479
look, we got problems here.
We ought to be straightening out as

2010
02:34:30.479 --> 02:34:33.319
opposed to sending billions of dollars to
a lot of other places. I think

2011
02:34:33.319 --> 02:34:39.879
there's a whole bunch of funding streams
that we could cut and not really lose

2012
02:34:39.879 --> 02:34:46.159
any sleep or strategic you know,
advantage if we did. Now. I

2013
02:34:46.200 --> 02:34:48.440
don't know if Israel is one of
those places, but I'm telling you I

2014
02:34:48.479 --> 02:34:52.559
don't like it. I don't like
the behavior. I don't like a lot

2015
02:34:52.600 --> 02:34:56.920
of the things that that government does, including the aggressive spying that they've done

2016
02:34:56.920 --> 02:35:01.239
against the US. But you know, I'm not allowed to say that because

2017
02:35:01.280 --> 02:35:07.479
now that means I hate choose.
I don't like that either. So anyway,

2018
02:35:07.520 --> 02:35:09.040
a lot of things I guess I
don't like, and the world is

2019
02:35:09.079 --> 02:35:13.680
as it is. So sorry advance, But look, I think if you

2020
02:35:13.719 --> 02:35:16.399
want to put together a whole thing
about this, you could, and I'd

2021
02:35:16.399 --> 02:35:20.280
be more than happy to just play
it if you like, and be pete

2022
02:35:20.399 --> 02:35:22.840
same thing. If you want to
put together a ten minute thing that isn't

2023
02:35:22.840 --> 02:35:26.680
interrupted by me or anybody else,
do it. I'll run it and we'll

2024
02:35:26.719 --> 02:35:33.920
see what other people have to say. Yeah, I will do that.

2025
02:35:35.959 --> 02:35:41.360
And I might let be Pete go
and then pull in actually one listener who's

2026
02:35:41.680 --> 02:35:45.920
in another country that might just have
become available just to have a quick chat

2027
02:35:46.000 --> 02:35:48.399
with him. Let him get his
say in after I take a break here

2028
02:35:50.000 --> 02:35:52.120
on the show. But be Pete, I know you've had a long day

2029
02:35:52.719 --> 02:35:56.360
and i'd like to give you you
know, I'm gonna put Vance on hold

2030
02:35:56.360 --> 02:36:01.559
and give you the final word if
you don't mind for this week. This

2031
02:36:01.639 --> 02:36:05.639
week. Who whoops, I hit
the wrong button and there we go.

2032
02:36:05.600 --> 02:36:09.159
Advances on hold now. But go
ahead and be Pete. It's all you.

2033
02:36:09.319 --> 02:36:13.000
The floor is yours, sir.
Well, I'd just like to say

2034
02:36:13.399 --> 02:36:18.760
thanks to everybody that called in Harlem, Advance and Jimmy and you know,

2035
02:36:18.840 --> 02:36:24.760
the discussion tonight started out on one
end and kind of worked into a wormhole

2036
02:36:24.840 --> 02:36:28.760
at the other end. I think
you could sit here and tell apart the

2037
02:36:28.760 --> 02:36:35.360
Middle East situation from Shack before it
was any of it was a country.

2038
02:36:37.680 --> 02:36:41.559
You know, everybody's got their own
personal opinions on it. Just not liking

2039
02:36:41.680 --> 02:36:50.920
some things that a country does does
not make you automatically an anti semi somebody

2040
02:36:50.000 --> 02:36:54.239
like I said, you know,
some people have confused it too they used

2041
02:36:54.280 --> 02:37:01.719
the anti Zionists as a way of
getting away with couching their animosity towards Jews

2042
02:37:01.760 --> 02:37:07.719
because their Jews. You know that
we've had, we've had we've had groups

2043
02:37:07.760 --> 02:37:11.920
like that all over the world that
are are being persecuted. You know,

2044
02:37:11.000 --> 02:37:16.120
look at the Roma or the Gypsies
in Europe and what they've been through.

2045
02:37:16.239 --> 02:37:20.639
You know, look at the Armenians, look at the what was that the

2046
02:37:20.680 --> 02:37:24.680
Tuccis and the Hutus going at it
while the un was sitting there holding each

2047
02:37:24.680 --> 02:37:30.959
other's hands, trying to wipe each
other out. Unfortunately, until the end

2048
02:37:31.040 --> 02:37:35.600
of time, man is his own
worst enemy, and there's always going to

2049
02:37:35.680 --> 02:37:39.559
be people that don't like somebody else, either because of their religion or the

2050
02:37:39.559 --> 02:37:43.879
color of their skin or who their
daddy was. I don't think we'll ever

2051
02:37:43.959 --> 02:37:48.040
be able to settle those differences.
So we do the best we can and

2052
02:37:48.079 --> 02:37:50.799
try to get through day to time. And I agree with you, there

2053
02:37:50.239 --> 02:37:56.479
are people that hide their hate in
a allegedly political stance and that's all they're

2054
02:37:56.479 --> 02:38:01.399
doing. Yeah. Truthfully, I've
seen this lot where it's like this,

2055
02:38:01.239 --> 02:38:05.760
a truly anti Jewish person, where
it's just they have hate for them.

2056
02:38:05.840 --> 02:38:11.680
So anybody who even has a remotely
Jewish sounding name, they are clearly involved

2057
02:38:11.840 --> 02:38:16.479
in every conspiracy possible because they're Jewish. So therefore they have to be of

2058
02:38:16.520 --> 02:38:20.440
this certain ilk, they have to
go with this certain agenda simply because they

2059
02:38:20.440 --> 02:38:24.760
have a Jewish name or Jewish sounding
name. I've heard people do that on

2060
02:38:26.360 --> 02:38:28.719
podcasts. I've heard people do that
on radio shows, and I find it

2061
02:38:28.959 --> 02:38:33.639
ridiculous, revolting, you know,
assumptions about people. You don't even know

2062
02:38:33.719 --> 02:38:37.840
who this guy is, but a
Jewish name, so therefore, and I

2063
02:38:39.000 --> 02:38:41.520
never get that either. I don't
know. And there are people that do

2064
02:38:41.559 --> 02:38:46.639
it all the time. They justify
their hate of Jews and they attack bankers,

2065
02:38:46.920 --> 02:38:50.159
They justify their hate of Jews and
they attack the nation state of Israel.

2066
02:38:50.399 --> 02:38:54.719
But that's because they need to hide
their hate in something else. There

2067
02:38:54.760 --> 02:39:00.879
are people who can object to banking
without attaching it to every Jewish person.

2068
02:39:00.920 --> 02:39:05.120
There are people who can say I
don't agree with our support of Israel,

2069
02:39:05.680 --> 02:39:13.600
and it's not necessarily because screw the
Jews. There is other there's nuance here

2070
02:39:13.440 --> 02:39:16.920
in some cases a lot of it, though, to be honest with you,

2071
02:39:16.000 --> 02:39:20.840
it's a lot of people hiding their
hate within that nuance, and that's

2072
02:39:22.319 --> 02:39:26.079
revolting too. It's just like the
people who hid their revolts against you know,

2073
02:39:26.600 --> 02:39:30.079
the problem with the terrorists coming to
get us right post nine to eleven.

2074
02:39:30.879 --> 02:39:33.680
The truth is there was a bunch
of people that were just hateful of

2075
02:39:33.719 --> 02:39:37.680
brown people. They really were.
It wasn't everybody like the liberals wanted you

2076
02:39:37.760 --> 02:39:39.559
to believe. But there were people
who are like, oh, good,

2077
02:39:39.639 --> 02:39:45.000
I have a reason to loose my
hate on these people that speak funny,

2078
02:39:45.479 --> 02:39:48.479
that are brown, that I don't
want my country, et cetera, et

2079
02:39:48.559 --> 02:39:52.719
cetera. Now I've got a justification. And that's what goes on with some

2080
02:39:52.760 --> 02:39:54.559
people. And it goes on with
not just Jews, but like I said,

2081
02:39:54.559 --> 02:40:01.360
with you know, Muslims, with
Christians in some places, right,

2082
02:40:01.840 --> 02:40:07.399
they just attach you to something because
you're allegedly part of a group, or

2083
02:40:07.440 --> 02:40:11.280
they think you are. And their
hate is really easily revealed when you take

2084
02:40:11.280 --> 02:40:16.840
a listen to their reasoning. But
I just sit here and I say,

2085
02:40:16.840 --> 02:40:18.559
well, I think there's a separation
here. I don't like the way the

2086
02:40:18.600 --> 02:40:24.239
Palestinians have been treated by the State
of Israel. I can object to those

2087
02:40:24.280 --> 02:40:28.280
things and not take a side of
well, it's because I need to hate

2088
02:40:28.280 --> 02:40:31.760
the Jews, I want them exterminated. I'm not that guy. I don't

2089
02:40:31.760 --> 02:40:35.680
want anybody exterminated. I don't think
it's my business to be exterminating anybody.

2090
02:40:35.680 --> 02:40:39.520
I don't think it's any government's business
to be exterminating people. I think that

2091
02:40:39.520 --> 02:40:43.680
that is one of those things we
need to evolve beyond as a species.

2092
02:40:45.479 --> 02:40:48.479
But anyway, continue to be Pete, because your point is extremely valid.

2093
02:40:48.760 --> 02:40:54.040
And even though you and I can
slice this slightly differently, it's not coming

2094
02:40:54.040 --> 02:41:01.159
from a position of hate. It's
coming from a position of analogical And as

2095
02:41:01.239 --> 02:41:05.680
much as I have supported Israel on
the show in discussions in the past,

2096
02:41:07.280 --> 02:41:09.520
I don't agree with all of their
practices. I don't agree with some of

2097
02:41:09.559 --> 02:41:16.360
the ways some of the ways that
they treat or harass individuals simply because they

2098
02:41:16.399 --> 02:41:20.920
can. That's somebody just abusing the
power that they have, and I've never

2099
02:41:20.959 --> 02:41:24.600
been a supporter of that. There's
a lot of things to work out.

2100
02:41:24.959 --> 02:41:28.440
It won't be worked out in our
lifetime. But unless the end of it,

2101
02:41:28.520 --> 02:41:31.600
you know, comes crashing down and
we didn't know what was coming,

2102
02:41:31.879 --> 02:41:37.360
but you know, you can have
these discussions and talk about the way that

2103
02:41:37.399 --> 02:41:41.479
certain people are treated under certain circumstances
or in certain countries, and it's a

2104
02:41:41.559 --> 02:41:46.440
legitimate discussion. A lot of people
shy away from it because the minute that

2105
02:41:46.559 --> 02:41:54.319
they the minute somebody says something negative
about Israel, you've got those people that

2106
02:41:54.440 --> 02:41:58.200
are rapid supporters that just automatically go, we'll be an Antisthemitic. You know,

2107
02:41:58.280 --> 02:42:01.000
you just don't like the Jews.
So it's not that I don't like

2108
02:42:01.040 --> 02:42:05.680
the Jews, it's you know,
people treating people a certain way, and

2109
02:42:05.520 --> 02:42:09.559
when it's done under the guise of
government, it makes it even worse.

2110
02:42:11.040 --> 02:42:15.360
You know, our country, our
country has become very fascist in the past

2111
02:42:15.440 --> 02:42:20.239
few years, even with the system
that we have. The Israel's got,

2112
02:42:20.399 --> 02:42:22.920
you know, the same, the
same problem. Some of what they do

2113
02:42:24.000 --> 02:42:26.920
can be looked at as being extremely
fascist. But then again, look at

2114
02:42:26.920 --> 02:42:33.239
these governing bodies in these Arab countries
and you're looking at dictatorships or theocracies and

2115
02:42:33.239 --> 02:42:37.159
and it's the same thing. So, you know, we're all guilty of

2116
02:42:37.239 --> 02:42:43.799
certain things. We all have our
our we all have things that we support

2117
02:42:43.920 --> 02:42:48.799
and things that we decry. Unfortunately, we can't all agree on those things.

2118
02:42:48.520 --> 02:42:52.120
And the only way to work them
out is to sit down and actually

2119
02:42:52.239 --> 02:42:56.920
work them out. You know,
you can discuss the Middle East situation all

2120
02:42:56.920 --> 02:43:00.959
the way back to when you know
sand was created. You know, what

2121
02:43:01.079 --> 02:43:03.799
good does it do you you have
the history of it. You've got two

2122
02:43:03.799 --> 02:43:07.600
groups of people that just have not
been able to get along. One of

2123
02:43:07.639 --> 02:43:09.520
them has decided we're going to do
everything, do likely off the face of

2124
02:43:09.559 --> 02:43:13.639
the earth, and the other ones
have decided, we'll treat you any way

2125
02:43:13.680 --> 02:43:18.600
that we feel we need to to
save our position on this earth. And

2126
02:43:18.680 --> 02:43:22.360
when you get to extremes, no
matter what the situation is, when it

2127
02:43:22.479 --> 02:43:26.239
goes to extremes, and those are
the two things that you're dealing with,

2128
02:43:26.799 --> 02:43:33.319
you're never going to get it worked
out. Extremism never solved anything from the

2129
02:43:33.360 --> 02:43:37.000
Bolshevik Revolution to the Civil War.
You know, you think about it.

2130
02:43:37.520 --> 02:43:41.799
So, you know, I just
appreciate everybody calling in and being able to

2131
02:43:41.840 --> 02:43:46.719
give their opinions on things and not
feel like they would be attacked for their

2132
02:43:46.760 --> 02:43:50.000
opinion. I think we do that
very well on this show, being able

2133
02:43:50.040 --> 02:43:56.040
to discuss each other's positions and not
attack each other for simply holding the position.

2134
02:43:56.159 --> 02:44:00.840
Anybody can explain why they believe in
something or why they support something,

2135
02:44:00.920 --> 02:44:03.120
and I think we do a good
job of bringing that out. So I

2136
02:44:03.159 --> 02:44:07.360
say we continue the discussions and over
time, eventually things are going to go

2137
02:44:07.559 --> 02:44:11.479
and we all learned something when we
have these discussions, so you know,

2138
02:44:11.600 --> 02:44:16.479
they're worthwhile. I don't think we
should end them just because of the subject

2139
02:44:16.520 --> 02:44:20.600
matter. But you know, I
commend everybody tonight for being able to have

2140
02:44:20.799 --> 02:44:24.600
a decent discussion about things, and
we just seem to continue that right And

2141
02:44:24.639 --> 02:44:26.719
tonight was look nearly three hours.
I planned on two and I was going

2142
02:44:26.760 --> 02:44:31.120
to go twenty over. Now we've
gone almost a whole hour over, so

2143
02:44:31.719 --> 02:44:33.760
I'll leave it at that. B
Pete, I want to thank you for

2144
02:44:33.840 --> 02:44:37.760
co hosting this with me, because
it's not easy to do this, to

2145
02:44:37.840 --> 02:44:41.600
try and juggle and you know,
have reasonable discussion, especially when people get

2146
02:44:41.600 --> 02:44:46.440
heated, but that's what it is. Hopefully you listening out there will also

2147
02:44:46.559 --> 02:44:48.719
join us some more, and I'm
going to go to an after segment here,

2148
02:44:48.760 --> 02:44:52.000
I guess, and maybe add to
the show. Let be Pete go

2149
02:44:52.120 --> 02:44:56.639
and let most of you go,
probably here at the very end, because

2150
02:44:58.000 --> 02:45:01.520
after all, I am merely o'celly
and all you going to chuck o'chilly.

2151
02:45:09.719 --> 02:45:13.159
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2152
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The hopes and prayers of liberty loving
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will not see an easy one.
Your enemy is well trained, well equipped,

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and battle heartened. He will fight
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2157
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Go there, save yourself from ignorance, O Shelley dyn. So I go

2186
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to a segment number three here on
the Friday night call in, and I

2187
02:48:39.680 --> 02:48:43.680
wanted to let Ray from down Under
we'll call him, often seen in the

2188
02:48:43.879 --> 02:48:46.559
chat room as the Ford Freak,
and we still have Vance on the line.

2189
02:48:46.719 --> 02:48:50.760
But Vance brought up a video clip
which I guess is six minutes in

2190
02:48:50.879 --> 02:48:56.319
length. I have no idea really
what the content is, but it looks

2191
02:48:56.399 --> 02:48:58.040
like I can just play this video
clip. So I'm going to do that

2192
02:48:58.760 --> 02:49:05.520
and you guys can listen in and
we shall see what we get here for

2193
02:49:05.639 --> 02:49:09.280
the after effect, which I'll just
leave attached to the podcast for tonight.

2194
02:49:09.879 --> 02:49:15.840
So yeah, with no further ado, I'll kill my own mic and play

2195
02:49:15.920 --> 02:49:20.000
this piece which is apparently from the
intercept, which by the way, I'm

2196
02:49:20.040 --> 02:49:24.799
a little little leery of the intercept
sometimes, but they also do make some

2197
02:49:24.920 --> 02:49:28.120
good points in their stories, pieces, videos, et cetera. So let's

2198
02:49:28.120 --> 02:49:33.280
find out if they did so with
this six minutes worth of video we're going

2199
02:49:33.319 --> 02:49:43.959
to listen to. Now, the
Palestinian militant group Hamas has carried out brutal

2200
02:49:43.000 --> 02:49:48.319
acts of terror against these Radi civilians, and Israelian American leaders are always keen

2201
02:49:48.399 --> 02:49:52.559
to tell us how dangerous and evil
Hamas is inhumanity of Ramas. I have

2202
02:49:52.799 --> 02:49:58.840
no sympathy for Hamas. They keeps
shelling is well thousands of rockets and motors.

2203
02:50:00.200 --> 02:50:11.159
But what if I told you that
Israel helped create Hamas. Officially,

2204
02:50:11.239 --> 02:50:15.959
Hamas, which is the acronym from
Arabic phrase meaning Islamic resistance movement, was

2205
02:50:16.040 --> 02:50:20.600
founded in nineteen eighty seven, at
the start of the First Palestinian Intafada uprising

2206
02:50:20.959 --> 02:50:24.799
against the Israeli occupation, but its
roots were planted much earlier. The Hamas

2207
02:50:24.879 --> 02:50:30.440
founder, schechh Ahmed Yassin, was
a half blind, disabled Palestinian cleric and

2208
02:50:30.600 --> 02:50:33.760
member of the Muslim Brotherhood. The
brotherhood had been repressed by the Egyptians in

2209
02:50:33.920 --> 02:50:39.520
Gaza prior to nineteen sixty seven,
but once the Israelis invaded and occupied the

2210
02:50:39.559 --> 02:50:43.840
Strip. They didn't just turn a
blind eye to these Islamists, they encouraged

2211
02:50:43.879 --> 02:50:48.079
them. See, the Israelis,
especially right wing Israelis, wanted to undermine

2212
02:50:48.120 --> 02:50:52.559
the power of the dominant Palestinian political
force at that time, the nationalist plo

2213
02:50:52.040 --> 02:50:56.319
at the heart of which was the
secular Fatar Party of Yasa Arafat. They're

2214
02:50:56.399 --> 02:51:09.479
Bete Noir, Sakuni Fiedi repub dupri
at it their euro Fiedi. By empowering

2215
02:51:09.559 --> 02:51:13.719
Sheik Yasine and the Muslim Brotherhood,
Israeli leaders thought they could divide and rule

2216
02:51:13.760 --> 02:51:18.200
the occupied Palestinians, buy them off
against each other, secular nationalists against religious

2217
02:51:18.360 --> 02:51:22.959
Islamists. So in nineteen seventy eight, when Yasm wanted to officially register his

2218
02:51:24.159 --> 02:51:28.559
Islamic Association, which was basically the
precursor to Hamas, the Israelis were only

2219
02:51:28.719 --> 02:51:33.760
too keen to help. Yassin built
and grew a network of Islamist social institutions

2220
02:51:33.799 --> 02:51:39.479
across Gaza, including schools and clubs
and mosques, and Israel helped fund some

2221
02:51:39.600 --> 02:51:43.360
of those projects. Most American politicians
have no clue about any of this,

2222
02:51:43.760 --> 02:51:48.200
although the former Republican Congressman Ron Paul
once made this point on the floor of

2223
02:51:48.280 --> 02:51:54.760
the House. Tammas was encouraged and
really started by Israel because they wanted Tamash

2224
02:51:54.159 --> 02:52:00.639
to color act. Yah Sir Arafare
Arafat himself told an Italian newspaper quote Hamas

2225
02:52:00.840 --> 02:52:03.879
is a creature of Israel. He
even claimed that former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzak

2226
02:52:03.959 --> 02:52:09.239
Rabin admitted as much to him,
calling it a fatal error. Now you

2227
02:52:09.360 --> 02:52:13.239
might be wondering why should I believe
mad Ron Paul or the famously shady Yasa

2228
02:52:13.280 --> 02:52:18.719
Arafat. Well you don't have to. You can believe top Israeli and US

2229
02:52:18.799 --> 02:52:22.120
officials who've basically owned up to all
this. Brigadier Yit sak Segev, for

2230
02:52:22.239 --> 02:52:26.399
example, who is the Israeli military
governor in Gaza, and later told the

2231
02:52:26.479 --> 02:52:31.120
New York Times reporter that he helped
finance the Islamic movement. The Israeli government

2232
02:52:31.239 --> 02:52:33.360
gave me a budget, he said, and the military government gives to the

2233
02:52:33.440 --> 02:52:37.639
mosques. Colonel David Hakam, who
worked in Gaza in the late nineteen eighties

2234
02:52:37.840 --> 02:52:43.239
as an Arab affairs expert in the
Israeli military, has admitted that the original

2235
02:52:43.360 --> 02:52:46.680
sin was Israeli support for Yasin in
the late seventies. But at the time,

2236
02:52:46.799 --> 02:52:52.159
he has argued, nobody thought about
the possible results. Well, Avna

2237
02:52:52.280 --> 02:52:56.399
Cohen did. Cohen was the Israeli
official who was responsible for religious affairs in

2238
02:52:56.479 --> 02:53:00.479
Gaza for more than two decades life, and who now says quote Hamas,

2239
02:53:00.639 --> 02:53:05.479
to my great regret is Israel's creation. Yeah Cohen's words. He actually wrote

2240
02:53:05.479 --> 02:53:09.319
an official report to his superiors in
the mid nineteen eighties, warning them not

2241
02:53:09.479 --> 02:53:13.360
to play divide and rule in the
occupied territories and calling on Israel to quote

2242
02:53:13.600 --> 02:53:18.159
break up this monster before this reality
jumps in our face. But no one

2243
02:53:18.200 --> 02:53:22.520
else on the Israeli side really took
the possibility of blowback seriously at that time.

2244
02:53:24.280 --> 02:53:26.920
They never do, do they.
Hamas has since killed far more Israeli

2245
02:53:28.000 --> 02:53:31.559
civilians than any secular Palestinian militant group, and its leaders have been pretty viciously

2246
02:53:31.600 --> 02:53:46.879
anti Israeli and even anti Semitic in
their rhetoric, and sky A Scene would

2247
02:53:46.920 --> 02:53:54.120
eventually be assassinated by an Israeli strike
in Gaza. Chech Ya Scene and its

2248
02:53:54.040 --> 02:54:01.399
organization, the Hamas, are responsible
to the killing. So more than four

2249
02:54:01.520 --> 02:54:07.319
hundred Israelis. So the question shouldn't
be why now, I think it should

2250
02:54:07.360 --> 02:54:11.639
be why not before? Why not
before? Well, because before Israel was

2251
02:54:11.680 --> 02:54:16.000
actually nudging and winking at Yasine and
co building them up as a rival to

2252
02:54:16.079 --> 02:54:22.760
arafats Fatah. The die was cast
for blowback, both back incidentally that they

2253
02:54:22.840 --> 02:54:26.680
decided to double down on when they
assassinated Yasine. You can hear the clouds

2254
02:54:26.799 --> 02:54:31.959
chanting for Hamas, and any idea
that this operation would actually suppress or diminish

2255
02:54:33.079 --> 02:54:37.079
that organization seems to be ill judged. And the inconvenient truth is that Hamas

2256
02:54:37.399 --> 02:54:41.159
is in part a creature of Israel's
own making, an enemy that Israel spent

2257
02:54:41.239 --> 02:54:45.959
more than twenty years helping to build
up, and then spent the next twenty

2258
02:54:46.120 --> 02:54:50.040
years, the past twenty years,
that is, trying to bomb, besiege,

2259
02:54:50.399 --> 02:54:56.000
and blockade out of existence. The
three Guards of wars fought by Israel

2260
02:54:56.040 --> 02:55:01.360
against Hamas since two thousand and eight
killed around two thousand Palestinian civilians and a

2261
02:55:01.520 --> 02:55:07.479
dozen Israeli civilians. That's the real
human cost of blowback. David Long,

2262
02:55:07.559 --> 02:55:11.280
a former Middle East expert at the
US State Department under Ronald Reagan, told

2263
02:55:11.360 --> 02:55:16.000
journalist Robert Dreyfuss. I thought the
Israelis were playing with fire. I didn't

2264
02:55:16.000 --> 02:55:20.280
realize they'd end up creating a monster. But I don't think you ought to

2265
02:55:20.360 --> 02:55:24.639
mess around with potential fanatics. It's
a lesson both the Israelis and the Americans

2266
02:55:24.719 --> 02:55:28.680
never seem to learn, though,
and as usual, innocent people in this

2267
02:55:28.840 --> 02:55:43.920
case, Palestinians and Israelis continue to
lose their lives as a result. There

2268
02:55:43.959 --> 02:55:48.959
you go, that's the segment from
the intercept that was submitted in the chat

2269
02:55:48.040 --> 02:55:54.920
room by Vance. I believe anarchy
did that. So Vance, there's your

2270
02:55:54.959 --> 02:55:58.799
piece. And we also have prey
from down under with us. So well

2271
02:56:00.239 --> 02:56:01.399
with you, Vance, because I
think you have somewhere to go or something,

2272
02:56:01.879 --> 02:56:07.760
So go ahead. Yeah, I
got to get to Walmart four eleven

2273
02:56:07.799 --> 02:56:11.239
o'clock, so I'm on my way. I'm in the truck. So I

2274
02:56:11.319 --> 02:56:16.639
apologize if there's any noises or whatever, but no, but yeah, there's

2275
02:56:16.799 --> 02:56:20.280
you know the you know that in
my opinion that you know, Israel was

2276
02:56:20.840 --> 02:56:24.920
created to be a thorn in the
Middle East. There's you know, lots

2277
02:56:24.959 --> 02:56:28.200
of periods of time were even in
you know, Palestine for you know,

2278
02:56:28.879 --> 02:56:33.520
hundreds of years that people lived in
relatively in relative peace. You know,

2279
02:56:35.840 --> 02:56:39.360
Muslims and Arabs and Christians and Atheists
and everything, you know, for the

2280
02:56:39.440 --> 02:56:46.840
most part got along. And and
you know so they just like we funded

2281
02:56:46.040 --> 02:56:50.280
al Qaeda to you know, help
you know, go against Russia and all

2282
02:56:50.360 --> 02:56:54.799
that, and then it turns into
isis and and you know, so on

2283
02:56:54.799 --> 02:56:58.200
and so forth. So you know, there's there's very little question at this

2284
02:56:58.319 --> 02:57:01.959
point in my mind that you know, you know, war's the racket has

2285
02:57:01.440 --> 02:57:05.680
been established a long time ago,
and so yeah, they're going to create

2286
02:57:05.840 --> 02:57:09.399
you know, all the the victims
that they need to justify what they need

2287
02:57:09.479 --> 02:57:15.600
to do, and and you know, I'm just pretty disappointed and in the

2288
02:57:15.959 --> 02:57:18.559
you know, the ability of the
average even being on the earth and to

2289
02:57:18.680 --> 02:57:22.319
not be appalled by what's going on, regardless of which side you're on.

2290
02:57:22.559 --> 02:57:26.680
You know, it's you know,
you know bombing. You know, Gazas

2291
02:57:28.000 --> 02:57:31.920
is destroyed now, there is no
they have no homes and businesses and anything

2292
02:57:33.079 --> 02:57:35.799
left. And you know how many
times have they been through that over and

2293
02:57:35.920 --> 02:57:39.239
over and over. So you know, there's there's there's humanity on both sides,

2294
02:57:39.360 --> 02:57:41.840
and you know, a lot of
it doesn't come from the government.

2295
02:57:41.840 --> 02:57:46.360
It's just like Max Egos and the
thing, it's not like everybody in America,

2296
02:57:46.959 --> 02:57:50.639
you know, wants to go to
war with Russia or with China,

2297
02:57:50.799 --> 02:57:54.479
or everybody and and and Israel wants
to go to work. You know.

2298
02:57:54.559 --> 02:58:00.000
That's the governments, you know,
and enforcing their policies to benefit their corporations

2299
02:58:00.440 --> 02:58:03.239
that you know, keep their economies
going. And if it wasn't for all

2300
02:58:03.280 --> 02:58:07.719
this military spending, we'd be gone
anyway. And then on top then you

2301
02:58:07.799 --> 02:58:11.559
know, as a side effect that
it just adds to the inflation and everything

2302
02:58:11.600 --> 02:58:13.840
else. All these you know,
billions and trillions of dollars we've spent blowing

2303
02:58:13.879 --> 02:58:18.360
stuff up and rebuilding it. And
you know we could have been you know,

2304
02:58:18.719 --> 02:58:22.239
think how many dams and bridges and
hospitals and you know, good things

2305
02:58:22.319 --> 02:58:28.040
we could have done with that type
of you know effort. Now, look,

2306
02:58:28.120 --> 02:58:33.079
I don't object to a single thing
that you were saying there, you

2307
02:58:33.159 --> 02:58:37.680
know, when it comes to this
philosophy of like why in the hell is

2308
02:58:37.799 --> 02:58:43.079
this an acceptable use of funds as
opposed to all these other things that could

2309
02:58:43.159 --> 02:58:46.000
be done while we're told that there's
not enough money for this. That the

2310
02:58:46.079 --> 02:58:52.719
third thing you can't possibly, you
know, give people access to healthcare for

2311
02:58:52.879 --> 02:58:58.200
real, You can't actually do this. You can't actually take care of people

2312
02:58:58.600 --> 02:59:03.639
here with all this money they print. You can't do it with resources here

2313
02:59:03.760 --> 02:59:09.239
because we don't have it. Well, we have plenty of resources to give

2314
02:59:09.319 --> 02:59:13.159
to plenty of other places, not
just Israel, but I mean the billions

2315
02:59:13.159 --> 02:59:16.920
that we give there yearly, but
I mean other places. Is this all

2316
02:59:18.719 --> 02:59:24.680
absolutely necessary? You know? Again, I'm not somebody who is unrealistic about

2317
02:59:24.719 --> 02:59:28.399
the fact that there will always be
conflict. We will have to do things

2318
02:59:28.440 --> 02:59:35.360
strategically because humanity has not grown out
of its rock throwing phase. True,

2319
02:59:35.879 --> 02:59:39.159
But is this all necessary? Is
this all the best idea? Anyway?

2320
02:59:39.639 --> 02:59:43.399
With all that having been said,
I'm gonna just put you on hol advance

2321
02:59:43.600 --> 02:59:46.760
and we're gonna you know, that
way, you don't have to worry about

2322
02:59:46.799 --> 02:59:50.719
your noises or whatnot. You can
hang out for a bit. But Ray,

2323
02:59:50.840 --> 02:59:52.959
you wanted to get in on this
as well, so I want to

2324
02:59:52.959 --> 02:59:58.920
give you time to speak. Yeah, thanks, Chub. In my opinion,

2325
03:00:00.239 --> 03:00:05.639
war is the ultimate crime against humanity. It doesn't matter which side you're

2326
03:00:05.680 --> 03:00:11.360
on, why you're thought, or
anything else. It's killing of humans.

2327
03:00:11.399 --> 03:00:18.159
On mass that's against humanity. I
think you and I have this similar idea

2328
03:00:18.520 --> 03:00:24.280
that look the way that you know, I realize people say it's necessary,

2329
03:00:24.719 --> 03:00:28.680
it's in our nature, all this
stuff. But you know the truth is

2330
03:00:30.399 --> 03:00:33.719
that when you talk about the idea
of war, it's just one way or

2331
03:00:33.760 --> 03:00:41.680
another of justifying what is going to
be murder. It's going to necessitate that

2332
03:00:41.840 --> 03:00:45.959
people that are not in uniforms,
that didn't sign up, that didn't agree

2333
03:00:46.879 --> 03:00:52.280
to be part of whatever the conflict
is. It's a guarantee that they're going

2334
03:00:52.360 --> 03:00:56.879
to pay for it with their lives. Just being in the wrong place at

2335
03:00:56.920 --> 03:01:00.760
the wrong time. It's a guarantee
of mass murder. You directly say that,

2336
03:01:01.440 --> 03:01:03.760
and it's a justification no matter how
you slice it. Oh, we

2337
03:01:03.840 --> 03:01:07.360
had to because of we had to
because they were coming for us. We

2338
03:01:07.520 --> 03:01:11.079
had to fight them over there so
they didn't come over here, et cetera,

2339
03:01:11.120 --> 03:01:16.559
et cetera. To me, and
the people that were making those decisions

2340
03:01:16.879 --> 03:01:20.879
live in the same conditions as the
people never never, never never. It's

2341
03:01:20.959 --> 03:01:26.280
not just a matter of Look at
the congressmen and the senators who don't send

2342
03:01:26.319 --> 03:01:31.719
their own kids to military conflicts.
Mostly mostly some do I know that,

2343
03:01:33.239 --> 03:01:35.239
you know some do you want to
go for. You know, Joe Biden

2344
03:01:35.360 --> 03:01:39.959
sent his kid, Okay, okay, whatever. But at the end of

2345
03:01:41.000 --> 03:01:45.879
the day, the majority of what
they have to face in their personal lives,

2346
03:01:46.319 --> 03:01:52.680
what they will lose, what damage
they'll suffer, is mitigated heavily by

2347
03:01:52.719 --> 03:01:56.360
the fact that they usually make insider
trades. They make money off of this

2348
03:01:56.520 --> 03:02:01.319
one way or another. Whether they
get a good job at rape or whatever

2349
03:02:01.399 --> 03:02:05.040
it is that you know, Nikki
Haley comes out of the un and goes

2350
03:02:05.079 --> 03:02:07.639
and gets a good job at Boeing. I think it was right, you

2351
03:02:07.719 --> 03:02:11.559
know, whether they get that,
or they get stock options, or they

2352
03:02:11.600 --> 03:02:15.559
get direct payoffs, or they get
lobbyists took them up one way or another,

2353
03:02:15.639 --> 03:02:20.639
they financially benefit off of the blood
of mostly others. I mean it

2354
03:02:20.719 --> 03:02:22.920
sounds like props to me, doesn't
it. I mean, you know,

2355
03:02:24.000 --> 03:02:26.159
maybe I'm wrong about that, but
ray continue on? What else do you

2356
03:02:26.200 --> 03:02:33.719
want to say? No? What
comes down to I guess it's like a

2357
03:02:33.840 --> 03:02:41.920
religious four kind of Back in the
eight eight hundreds, there was a church,

2358
03:02:41.959 --> 03:02:43.799
and if I'm not mistaken, there
was a church in Jerusalem that had

2359
03:02:43.920 --> 03:02:52.000
all three religions in the one building, praying together. If it could be

2360
03:02:52.079 --> 03:02:56.879
done before, why can't it be
done now? Well that's interesting too,

2361
03:02:56.799 --> 03:03:03.600
the idea of what they call ecumenical
religious gatherings right, which ecumenical effectively translates

2362
03:03:03.639 --> 03:03:07.959
to, you know, what is
on what is in the world right where

2363
03:03:07.000 --> 03:03:13.319
you get representatives of the major population
that's going to be listening to it one

2364
03:03:13.360 --> 03:03:16.959
way or another. They used to
have an ecumenical roundtable on radio in New

2365
03:03:16.079 --> 03:03:20.399
York. Uh. They've had ecumenical
gatherings where you'll see, you know,

2366
03:03:20.639 --> 03:03:28.760
in a mom a rabbi and a
priest come together with others sometimes you know

2367
03:03:28.920 --> 03:03:33.520
of lesser religions in number anyway,
who will come together. By the way,

2368
03:03:33.600 --> 03:03:35.200
that's not the only three choices on
the planet, just so you know.

2369
03:03:37.000 --> 03:03:39.399
But I mean, there are points
where people come together and say,

2370
03:03:39.440 --> 03:03:46.360
look, you know, we're all
searching for this connection with a higher power,

2371
03:03:46.600 --> 03:03:50.440
with an idea that is outside of
ourselves, that is above us.

2372
03:03:52.520 --> 03:03:56.520
And we may do it in different
ways, but aren't we all at least

2373
03:03:56.600 --> 03:04:00.680
part of the same thing. We're
all part of the human family. We're

2374
03:04:00.760 --> 03:04:05.559
all in search of that honest connection
to that higher power. I mean,

2375
03:04:05.760 --> 03:04:13.639
it seems to me like religion could
easily be more used as a unifying principle

2376
03:04:13.760 --> 03:04:18.000
as opposed to the division that it
is utilized as. At this point,

2377
03:04:18.440 --> 03:04:22.000
it's it seems more logical to me
to make it a unifying principle. What

2378
03:04:22.360 --> 03:04:26.079
are your thoughts there? Well,
I do use it as a unifying principle

2379
03:04:28.280 --> 03:04:33.399
to gather numbers, to gather numbers. But then then and then point the

2380
03:04:33.440 --> 03:04:37.920
finger at the other religion in the
site, say that I think different to

2381
03:04:39.040 --> 03:04:46.719
us. See, that's the otherization, right, which is useful in politics.

2382
03:04:46.879 --> 03:04:48.799
It's useful when it comes to social
issues. It's not you know,

2383
03:04:48.920 --> 03:04:52.920
look, this is us, this
is them. Now, why do we

2384
03:04:54.040 --> 03:04:56.920
need to combat them? Why do
we need to eliminate them? Why do

2385
03:04:58.040 --> 03:05:01.200
we need to And it may not
be a emination. It may be we

2386
03:05:01.319 --> 03:05:05.520
need to suppress their way. We
need to stop them, right, I

2387
03:05:05.600 --> 03:05:09.639
mean we need to separate them.
Good, Why can't we understand them?

2388
03:05:11.200 --> 03:05:16.600
Mmmm? Well, why not seek
commonality? Again? You know this idea

2389
03:05:16.879 --> 03:05:20.559
like I said that phrase the human
family, I borrow it heavily from a

2390
03:05:20.639 --> 03:05:24.000
couple of people. But the truth
is, I believe in the concept that

2391
03:05:24.120 --> 03:05:28.200
we're all fairly close to related one
way or another. You only go back

2392
03:05:28.280 --> 03:05:33.159
so many generations. Guess what happens, uh, you start crossing. So

2393
03:05:33.840 --> 03:05:39.360
in reality, we're all physically related
to one another in a way. I

2394
03:05:39.440 --> 03:05:41.920
don't know if it's you know,
necessarily exactly in the biblical sense. Like

2395
03:05:43.040 --> 03:05:46.440
some people say, you know about
how there was you know, the great

2396
03:05:46.479 --> 03:05:52.600
flood, and therefore there's only this
little slavery ahead somehow. Yeah, although

2397
03:05:52.840 --> 03:05:58.719
you know, Cain went and found
a wife somewhere else, according to the

2398
03:05:58.959 --> 03:06:01.799
only ones created by good Yeah.
See, I don't think so. But

2399
03:06:03.000 --> 03:06:07.040
I get myself in trouble when I
say that to Christians, you know,

2400
03:06:07.239 --> 03:06:11.840
And that's the oddity here. But
anyway, this is all debates about things

2401
03:06:11.959 --> 03:06:16.040
that are unproven that you take on
faith. Why is it do you think

2402
03:06:16.600 --> 03:06:22.159
that people have this inability to take
on faith, that commonality, that common

2403
03:06:22.319 --> 03:06:26.079
cause to look toward one another?
And like I said, see the commonality.

2404
03:06:26.639 --> 03:06:28.639
You know, we've all got to
eat, we've all got to have

2405
03:06:28.840 --> 03:06:33.680
water, We've all you know,
most of us care about the future generations

2406
03:06:33.719 --> 03:06:37.840
that are going to be here after
us for the most part. Why is

2407
03:06:37.879 --> 03:06:41.280
it that we can't come together you
know with that old you know, I

2408
03:06:41.360 --> 03:06:45.600
know it's all very trite and overused
and all that. But those concepts that

2409
03:06:45.719 --> 03:06:48.760
came out of the mouths of people
in the nineteen sixties. And I don't

2410
03:06:48.799 --> 03:06:54.040
mean the hippies. I do mean
the likes of John Kennedy, the likes

2411
03:06:54.200 --> 03:06:58.280
of Martin Luther King, the likes
of various people who are not perfect human

2412
03:06:58.360 --> 03:07:01.159
beings in any way, shape or
form. But who said, you know,

2413
03:07:01.680 --> 03:07:05.760
things like we're all going to breathe
the same air. We're all on

2414
03:07:05.879 --> 03:07:09.479
this planet, whether you know you
ascribe to a certain political belief or system

2415
03:07:09.600 --> 03:07:13.520
or whatever, that's not the relevant
thing. The relevant thing is we're all

2416
03:07:13.559 --> 03:07:18.639
stuck on the same rock together,
and we've all got very similar problems.

2417
03:07:18.760 --> 03:07:22.879
Yeah, yeah, I gotta quite
sticks on this one. Why can't we

2418
03:07:22.959 --> 03:07:26.600
just all get along the Rodney King
had for us? Yeah? Sure,

2419
03:07:28.000 --> 03:07:31.639
you know that's where that that comes
from, right, I mean, I'm

2420
03:07:31.680 --> 03:07:35.600
not trying to act like from six
okay, from six. Well, it's

2421
03:07:35.680 --> 03:07:39.479
it's a callback to Rodney King,
you know, the Rodney King thing,

2422
03:07:39.600 --> 03:07:43.680
right? Yes, not either Rodney
King thing. Okay, some guys in

2423
03:07:43.719 --> 03:07:48.719
Australia don't know that. You know, things like that in America that happened

2424
03:07:48.719 --> 03:07:52.040
I assume you're smarter than that.
But I I never want to assume somebody

2425
03:07:52.120 --> 03:07:56.760
knows something unless I'm sure. But
for listeners, in case you're not familiar,

2426
03:07:58.079 --> 03:08:00.440
you know, we had this thing
called the La Riots. It was

2427
03:08:00.559 --> 03:08:03.040
kind of a rough thing that emerged
after some cops were let off after beating

2428
03:08:03.159 --> 03:08:11.399
Rodney King nearly to death the magic
baton theory, where you know, it

2429
03:08:11.440 --> 03:08:15.200
took ten guys to beat him down
in a high speed chase in this little

2430
03:08:15.239 --> 03:08:18.520
car he was in. All that, okay, Anyways, Rodney King comes

2431
03:08:18.559 --> 03:08:24.159
out and basically in the midst of
La burning up and you know, descending

2432
03:08:24.239 --> 03:08:31.600
into absolute chaos and fires and riots
and looting and all that, Rodney King

2433
03:08:31.680 --> 03:08:35.760
goes on TV and basically boiled his
whole statement down to that can we just

2434
03:08:35.799 --> 03:08:41.040
all get along? A guy had
been nearly beaten to death, you know,

2435
03:08:41.280 --> 03:08:45.799
by the cops and all that had
been a symbol that really led to

2436
03:08:45.879 --> 03:08:50.639
those riots, comes out and says
that it's interesting, that's for sure,

2437
03:08:50.479 --> 03:08:54.479
but anyway, almost like it was
done on purpose to create a right.

2438
03:08:54.040 --> 03:08:58.120
Seems that way, doesn't it.
And that's back in the days when we

2439
03:08:58.159 --> 03:09:01.280
didn't have, you know, video
cameras in our pockets either. Somebody had

2440
03:09:01.280 --> 03:09:05.079
to lug around one of those big
video cameras to get that tape. And

2441
03:09:05.559 --> 03:09:09.120
there's a lot of weird questions about
how that got out there. But yeah,

2442
03:09:09.120 --> 03:09:11.799
go ahead, go ahead, ry
Oh cam cord is back in the

2443
03:09:11.879 --> 03:09:15.239
day when exactly cheap. They weren't
cheap, they weren't easy to hide,

2444
03:09:15.239 --> 03:09:20.879
and you couldn't hide them, you
know. So anyway, anything else that

2445
03:09:20.959 --> 03:09:22.879
you want to add here, Sarah, I want to you know, I

2446
03:09:24.520 --> 03:09:28.120
don't mean to be rude at all, but I want to close this one

2447
03:09:28.239 --> 03:09:31.559
out with something so and I want
to give Advance a chance to say something

2448
03:09:31.600 --> 03:09:35.639
also at the end, if he's
still there. But but you know,

2449
03:09:35.760 --> 03:09:39.000
go right ahead. The floor is
yours. Now we can close out,

2450
03:09:39.040 --> 03:09:43.799
but you get some sleep back the
half sick there you go. I appreciate

2451
03:09:43.879 --> 03:09:48.959
that. And you know, from
from eighteen one hundred to eighteen sixty,

2452
03:09:48.040 --> 03:09:54.680
by the way, there were churches
in the United States that apparently did this.

2453
03:09:54.840 --> 03:09:58.959
There was multiple ones. You mentioned
a church, but from eighteen hundred

2454
03:10:00.120 --> 03:10:07.319
eighteen sixty there was this idea of
bringing together first the well, there's a

2455
03:10:07.479 --> 03:10:13.079
gunshot right outside of my house.
Did you hear that? I didn't hear

2456
03:10:13.120 --> 03:10:16.040
it. Wow, that was pretty
loud, and the dogs are barking.

2457
03:10:16.159 --> 03:10:18.959
I'm gonna have to go check on
things. Yeah yeah, check that shit

2458
03:10:20.000 --> 03:10:22.600
out, man, I'm gonna have
to because that was like enough that I

2459
03:10:22.639 --> 03:10:26.239
felt the rattle in the floor.
Somebody fired a shotgun really close to my

2460
03:10:26.319 --> 03:10:31.520
house. Anyways, migrants and all
that, they carried different religious beliefs into

2461
03:10:31.600 --> 03:10:39.959
it, and this unifying principle that
was first introduced bringing Presbyterians let's see a

2462
03:10:39.559 --> 03:10:45.920
majority concept geographical region beyond the settlement. Anyway, there's an interesting story to

2463
03:10:46.000 --> 03:10:50.760
that where there was this attempt to
unify various religions which did later include Judaism,

2464
03:10:52.319 --> 03:10:56.840
not Muslim, but various types of
Christianity which were quite diverse at the

2465
03:10:56.920 --> 03:11:03.360
time from eighteen hundred and eighteen sixty
and then it's sort of evaporated. And

2466
03:11:03.159 --> 03:11:07.280
I wonder if the Civil War here, which was supposed to be a political

2467
03:11:07.319 --> 03:11:11.079
thing and over slavery allegedly, I
wonder if that has anything to do with

2468
03:11:11.200 --> 03:11:18.920
it coinciding with the end of this
episcopal you know, Presbyterian slash everybody trying

2469
03:11:18.959 --> 03:11:24.360
to get together under this idea that
they could be unified under the higher power

2470
03:11:24.479 --> 03:11:30.159
concept. I wonder if that was
intentionally destroyed, you know, just like

2471
03:11:30.319 --> 03:11:35.360
the you know, unifying the people
against the elites. No, that wouldn't

2472
03:11:35.360 --> 03:11:39.600
be destroyed, No, not at
all. Anyway, Vance, let's see,

2473
03:11:39.680 --> 03:11:41.440
let's get you back in here if
you're still there, and let you

2474
03:11:41.600 --> 03:11:50.239
have the final word. Vance.
Hello. Hell yeah, Man, I've

2475
03:11:50.319 --> 03:11:56.040
said before, and this is you
know my mind. You know, no,

2476
03:11:56.239 --> 03:12:00.280
man is my enemy. Only ideology
my own hands, and is in

2477
03:12:00.399 --> 03:12:03.120
me. Love set me free,
Love set me free. So you know,

2478
03:12:03.280 --> 03:12:07.639
it's like we need an evolution,
not more revolutions. And so you

2479
03:12:07.760 --> 03:12:11.559
know that, you know, we're
all born as human beings and and you

2480
03:12:11.639 --> 03:12:16.719
know that's the basis of religion.
There should be a human religion. And

2481
03:12:16.000 --> 03:12:20.879
you know they're they're all religions are
basically cults. You know, the government's

2482
03:12:20.920 --> 03:12:24.680
a cult, the army is a
cult. You know, it's all cultism,

2483
03:12:24.840 --> 03:12:30.840
you know, to whatever degree.
And you know, the the technology

2484
03:12:30.920 --> 03:12:33.680
and things that we've been able to
develop and everything we're supposed to free us

2485
03:12:33.799 --> 03:12:37.399
from, you know, all this
type of stuff, and war's supposed to

2486
03:12:37.440 --> 03:12:41.200
be obsolete. And you know,
you know the what's his name, uh

2487
03:12:43.040 --> 03:12:46.879
Buckminster Fuller, you know, you
know, there's there's this ideology has been

2488
03:12:46.920 --> 03:12:50.680
around for a long time, but
it gets repressed because there's no profit you

2489
03:12:50.799 --> 03:12:56.680
know for the corporations which basically control
the world, and and so you know,

2490
03:12:56.799 --> 03:12:58.760
they don't want us to have a
system that is you know, fair

2491
03:12:58.840 --> 03:13:03.639
and equitable or with you know,
whatever adjectives you want to put on that

2492
03:13:03.799 --> 03:13:07.200
that benefits humanity as a whole.
If there's no profit, you know,

2493
03:13:07.280 --> 03:13:09.159
it's like why why why, Well, we want free energy, you can't

2494
03:13:09.239 --> 03:13:13.600
charge people for free energy? Well, you know why, why why do

2495
03:13:13.680 --> 03:13:16.079
we need to charge people for free
energy? You know, everybody needs energy,

2496
03:13:16.479 --> 03:13:22.239
everybody needs you know, gasoline,
because we didn't develop this system that

2497
03:13:22.760 --> 03:13:26.559
is you know, based on and
run you know on petroleum and all that

2498
03:13:26.680 --> 03:13:28.399
kind of stuff. But we have
to you know, pay the price for

2499
03:13:28.520 --> 03:13:33.079
it. And so you know,
they're you know, once we can start

2500
03:13:33.159 --> 03:13:37.319
taking the profit out of war and
controlling human resources, well then maybe we

2501
03:13:37.399 --> 03:13:41.079
can have some peace. But as
long as there's profit and controlling human resources,

2502
03:13:41.159 --> 03:13:43.559
you're going to have people they're going
to figure out a way to control

2503
03:13:43.639 --> 03:13:46.600
it and make as much profit as
they can, because that's what corporations do.

2504
03:13:46.920 --> 03:13:50.559
They exist to make profit, not
to make peace. That's it.

2505
03:13:50.840 --> 03:13:54.959
And you know what, if it
wasn't for the pain of survival and the

2506
03:13:56.360 --> 03:14:05.760
prospect of scarcity, combined with the
overburdening of people with various ideologies, there

2507
03:14:05.920 --> 03:14:09.600
just might be no reason for us
to kill one another any longer. Anyway,

2508
03:14:09.680 --> 03:14:11.559
no matter who you are, where
you are, when you are,

2509
03:14:11.680 --> 03:14:16.959
remember I'm merely o'celly, all of
you are indeed the effect. Thank you

2510
03:14:16.079 --> 03:14:22.719
Vance, thank you Ray, thank
you Jimmy James, and of course let's

2511
03:14:22.719 --> 03:14:28.360
see Harlan and uh well, all
of you for listening. Be Pete as

2512
03:14:28.399 --> 03:14:31.959
well. Have a good night guys. B Pete, definitely B Pete.

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