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Hey, everybody, this is Less
Drive. Yes, yes, I know

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aka Survivor Man, and you're listening
to Brian on Sasquatch Honesty. He there,

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and welcome back to Sasquatch Hots.
Thank you so much for being with

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us for the show. It is
Wednesday. I hope you're having a great

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weekend. We have an amazing show
lined up for you. But as always,

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I want to start by fighting you. If you've had any encolendar and

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I wanted to go back and do
something a little bit different. This is

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something I've done only I think four
or five times so far in the last

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four hundred and nineteen episodes of the
show. I'm going back through the archives

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and trying to remaster some of those
early episodes. I tell you, I

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went back and listened to this episode
and there is so much gold there.

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It's honestly easy to forget when you
get into this and you start doing episode

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after episode after episode and tons and
tons of interviews. But some of those

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early interviews that I had. I'm
hearing things in those interviews that I have

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heard as recently as yesterday in brand
new interviews. These things just keep happening

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to people in different parts of the
country, and that's really why I started

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the show in the beginning, was
to document an archive and sort of become

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a repository for those kind of stories, so that we can go back in

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five months, five years, or
five decades and listen to some of those

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stories and look at some of those
differences and some of those things that stuck

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out in those earlier interviews that we're
still hearing today in twenty twenty four.

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What you're about to hear is the
remastered version of episode four that aired back

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on February twenty first of twenty twenty
one. I spoke to Tyler from Louisiana,

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and he had some really hair raising
experiences. I don't normally do a

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sensitivity warning, but there are a
couple of incidents here where dogs are injured

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and killed by what Tyler claims to
be sasquatch. So if you're a sensitive

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to those kind of things, Obviously, nobody likes to hear about dogs or

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any animals being killed, but particularly
if you have little ones in the car,

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you may want to be aware of
that before we get into this episode.

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I personally enjoy going back and doing
these remastered versions of these shows.

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I clean up the audio, I
take out all the extra artifacts that shouldn't

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have been there in the first place, and it just really cleans up the

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listening experience for you guys. And
some of you probably have never heard this.

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There's a lot of you that have
probably started at the most recent episode

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and you're working your way back through
the archives, so maybe this will be

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the first time you've ever heard this
episode. Either way, I hope you

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guys enjoyed as much as I do. So without further ado, all you

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have to do is sit back,
relax, and enjoy the show. All

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right, let's welcome Tyler to the
show. Tyler comes to us from Louisiana

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and he's had several encounters with jask
Watch. Thanks for being on the show

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tonight, Tyler, Yeah, thank
you for having me. It's my pleasure.

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I know you've had multiple encounters.
Let's start with the very first one

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and just go chronologically and into each
encounter when it happened, where it happened

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what you were doing? Okay,
fo let's do it. My first encounter

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was, dear honey, there's a
three hundred five acre of property that my

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family owns here in northwest Louisiana.
It's all hardwood, timber on one side

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of the road and pine on the
other, so really good dear bedding area,

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plentiful wildlife. My first year to
hunt there with my uncle about going

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out there and setting up a stand. He said, true, and he

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told me, he said that there
are things out here that you've never seen

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before. And he said there are
things that'll scare you, and there'll thing

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that you will think that will never
make you want a hunt again. He

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said, but you love to hunt. You're a grown man. He said,

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you make your decision when you get
there. And I said, okay,

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I didn't think anything about that bott
a little ladder stand. We put

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the stand together, put it on
the side beside, drove over as close

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as we could at the bottom ills
go hunt that we could, and we

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put that stand up. Sometime around
eleven am. I went back to the

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stand, say I got on there, call it three pm, had two

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dos come to me, stood up
the drawback and never get a shot.

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I just sat down, chilled out. I heard heavy footsteps behind it,

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crunching into the pine straw and the
leaves that we have here, and I

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can hear things coming from a long
way, so that's why I was able

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to distinguish, Okay, this was
something heavy, this is something bigger.

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I was thinking this was going to
be a buck, but it sounded more

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like me walking through the woods,
like a posh like you and whatever it

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was taking at time, and it
was very heavy. I knew that I

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couldn't see it yet, but I
was watching the deer in their movement,

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the two that were there with me. As I started looking around the tree,

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not to give my position, I
saw a bifeedal creature. At first

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I believed to be a person.
At first, I believed that it was

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my uncle. It made no sense
because he was something to stand across the

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road. He was a mile and
a half of me. He come from

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a completely different direction than we ever
took to go into that patch of woods.

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Since I had started going down there
and scout in the area, the

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deer that were in the area right
there below me looked back at this person

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that I thought at the time,
and put their head back down cautiously and

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kept eating. And that really bothered
me because if I was walking around in

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the wind, Gillie Sue or or
whatever, they're going to break in ruin.

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And it scared me because I didn't
see a gun, didn't find and

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I didn't fill a bow. No
Hunter's Orange state regulations. You have to

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wear Hunters Orange when you're on this
person, if it was a person,

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in my mind, was being very
reckless walking up on woods that are heavily

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hunted by people on all different sides. I noticed that it was all one

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solid killer kix foot six foot one
and two baby being in the ladder stand

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that distance, the height the judge
of the height, I'm not a very

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good judge of height. I don't
think anybody is from eighteen foot up in

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a tree. But it walked with
a stride that I'd never seen before,

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long orange, long stride. One
of the steps was five of mine,

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and it was very unsteadily. I
noticed that when I did see its faith,

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that it was all one folly color
and had the darkest eyes I've ever

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seen. It scared me really bad. All I had was by both the

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deer mealed around below me and kept
watching back. And the stench of it

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is another reason that I thought it
may have been a fuck. But sometimes

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their glands will give off a certain
odor, and I thought, but it

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was a bad like a barrel hog
and mud smeil. It was a very

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musty smell, long shaggy hair on
the upper torso I knew that I wasn't

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looking at a human. Once I
got a very good look out in the

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open of this creature. And the
wildlife had sen this before because they reacted

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as they had seen it before.
This was nothing new. But that time

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I'm trembling in that fan, I'm
thinking to myself, how am I going

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to get out of here. I've
got a ladder to climb down. I've

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got to get out of here without
being seen. This thing probably doesn't know

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up there, because this is the
first time I've been in these woods,

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that first time anybody there were a
hundred these woods. I've got that in

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my advance. So I waited until
this creature broke off to the left behind

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me. The closest that god was
thirty yards and it broke off to my

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left, and I would guess that
it made it fifty yards away from me

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out of field of view, and
I got down out of the stand and

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ran back towards the direction that I
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I had just come out of Marine
Corps boot camp. I wasn't caared of

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anything. I felt like I was
bulletproo. But this scared me because it

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was definitely not humor, and my
odds with a bow and arrow weren't very

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good, and I didn't want to
harm it, but I didn't want it

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to harm me. As I was
running out, I jumped over two piles.

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And I went back to the area
later and observed this, inspected it,

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but it was two piles of kenneling. It looked like kendling what you

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would break up to build a fire, start a fire with of hickory,

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broken all in even pieces, probably
an inch to inch and a half long,

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and it looked like someone had put
them in a tail and then turned

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that tail upside down. And they
were spaced evenly apart, and I want

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to stay to my best recollection,
maybe two full apart, two and a

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half of the four. I jumped
over those piles, and that was very

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nerving because I'm in hard wood bottom. It was just a weird thing to

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see there, but I jumped over
that. I ran, threw the cutover

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out to the black cop and I
was still so unsettled by that. When

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I turned around, intended to have
to draw an arrow and defend my fill,

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but when I turned around, I
didn't see, so I still didn't

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like the position I was in.
I got on the two lane road and

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I ran probably another half the three
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his farm, got my truck and
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the woods to wait on him and
his daughter to get out of the wood.

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When they came out of the woods, the head shot a buck and

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we met a and the best thing. He said, hey, you know

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what happening, said, you're pale
as a ghost. And I told him

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about my encounter, and that's when
he opened up to me about he had

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lived on that property that I was
probably six seven years old the early two

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thousand when he moved out onto that
property. He had hunted those woods,

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he'd seen a lot of things.
He normalized it. I told him my

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experience and he normalized at that point
and he began sharing some of his stories

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which are crazy. One of those
being. He shot a deer in the

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woods right below the stand I was
on, and he had a pop up

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blind there. This creature come from
off of a creek bank and grabbed his

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deer by the two back legs,
and we're talking about probably eighty two hundred

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pound duck. Threw this deer over
its back and began walking away with This

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was the first time he had experienced
it. He said that he went into

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full defense mode. It was timed
either fight or flight. If the creature

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would have turned on him, he
would have defended this sell. But as

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soon as that creature got out of
sight, he left it wood the same

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as I did. So it felt
good to know that I wasn't the only

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one that had experienced it, and
I wanted to know more. That's where

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the other encounter started. I want
to go back real quick if I could,

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to what you saw from your stand. You said, it's probably at

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the closest, maybe thirty yards to
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a lot of detail, But can
we go back to the face and the

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skin on the face. Could you
describe that for the audiences as much as

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you can and as much detail as
you can. What did the face look

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like. Was it a human like
face? Was it more ape like?

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What color was it? Was it
black? Gray? That kind of thing?

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Sure, the eye is what I
pretty much were fixed on the whole

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time. I did see the face, like I told you in my description,

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and I failed to mention it was
like a reddish brown hair around the

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face and pretty much the whole body
what had been matted together mattic fir that

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was more of a darker brown color
the faith the skin that I saw underneath

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the eye was more of a black, wrinkled texture. I could tell that

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much. Being as young, having
good eyebright, I could see some things

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about it. This wasn't a plaque, a cost embodiment. This was real,

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very leather weather texture, dark black, and it was more human light

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than I would like to remember.
One of the scary things about it,

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I felt like I was looking at
some one that kind of had a puffy

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face, and the thing about it
I didn't see, like an where the

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point between another thing that threw me
off. The hair came all the way

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down to the top of its dive
and then slight me under the cheek bowl

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continued. So I never saw this
creature's mouth. It was completely covered.

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All I could pretty much see was
from the top of the eyes to maybe

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the bridge of its nose, and
like I said, it was very human.

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The movements told me something different,
but the faith, I would expect

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to pull the hair off in feet, like I said, my uncle,

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an older gentleman with the more weathered, wrinkled skin. Yeah, that's fascinating,

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man. I've heard so many different
accounts where some people will say hunters

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have had these things in their sights
from deer stands and on the ground,

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and they're just like, I couldn't
take the shot because this thing looked too

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human in the faith. It's curious
that you smell the smell because most people

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that are in the big foot world, or at least when I started looking

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into the subject, I just thought
the smell was pretty synonymous with anybody who

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sees these things, but it's actually
not that common. So I'm always curious

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when somebody sees these things and then
smells that really pungent. I think your

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description was great, of a mutsky
boar in the mud kind of smell.

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I'm just curious once you had this
encounter, and now that you've had this

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experience and nobody knows, of course, But do you think that's just a

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smell from being out in the woods
and being unkempt and unbathed, or some

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people have this philosophy or this idea
that's something that they put off on their

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stress. Clearly, this thing you
don't even think it saw you. So

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what do you make of the smell. Do you think that's just one of

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those things that is there sometimes that
it's not, or do you think it

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may be some sort of a defense
mechanism that they secrete. What's your take

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on that? In my opinion,
I believe it's an environmental factor. The

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area that this creature revides in,
and it's very much still there, is

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very dark. Like I said,
it's pretty much a swath behind a hard

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wood bottom. This creature is walking
around in mud probably pat the day where

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it resides. You can't go down
there and just boots without getting your feet

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wet. It's moving around in a
very wet, musty area. The defense

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making is that's a great point for
me. I've never thought about it like

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that. I'd always contributed to an
environmental factor just because the faral hall here

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smell like that, and it's so
very possible that this creature and experiencing the

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same terrain is giving off the same
odor due to where it lives. I

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can't do agree with you. I
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And like I said, as I've
heard stories and seen encounters where these

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folks are five feet away from these
things and they don't smell anything at all.

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I guess it just could be something
that's environmental. I think that's a

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good point. One last thing before
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the pile of kindling that you said
you encountered in the woods. What do

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you make of that? Do you
think that was maybe a coincidence? Do

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you think maybe the creatures had something
to do with placing them there? Do

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you think it's possible that they use
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that. What's your ideas on that? Because you went back and even looked

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at it, I think you said
after your encounter, So what do you

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make of the pile of the kindling? In my honest opinion, I believe

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that certain things that they do,
for example, those piles of kinneling,

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that's what I would have use that
for. I believe that it's some sort

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of boundary marker, because I found
other things that were very off that you

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wouldn't see in the woods, just
randomly occur in the woods that were close

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to areas that we later found out
and experienced these creatures. I believe that

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it is either some kind of boundary
marker, some kind of signal to another

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creature, because these objects were never
used. They were just quating a certain

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spot, which makes me think that
it was a signal of some sort or

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a marking of boundary. Yeah,
that makes sense. I could see how

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that could be possible. It's always
funny to me when I listened to people's

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encounters. I'm in a lot of
bigfoot groups and sasquatch groups on Facebook,

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and people post these pictures of broken
trees and the woods or trees laying in

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an nex and everybody automatically justs to
the conclusion that tasquatch came through it and

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broke the tree, or sasquatch left
the neck tire, because you're not supposed

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to go this way. Most of
those things that I think are probably a

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natural occurrence. It's not something that
somebody's placed there or something is placed there.

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But the piles of kinling I've never
heard that. I think you're probably

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spot on. It's probably got something
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along those lines. I know you've
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what was your next experience and encounter? Where were you, what were you

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doing, and what happened? Then? Sure, the next move for me

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was to go back to the area, of course, with my uncle President

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and a weapon. I'm not even
gonna lie about it because I was so

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unsettled by We went back in the
same way that I came out. We

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saw the piles of kenley. I
went and effected that again. I found

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a ball of stick twigs if you
will, that were maybe out with the

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quarter inch in diameter. They were
all these things that I'm finding are the

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same site. They're all broken the
same way, they're all the same length,

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They're of the same species. As
far as tree, it's almost like

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when fay Oh I had tho ced. Everything has to be the same.

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It's very particular specific on what I
found there as far as what it was

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composed of. And there was this
ball that was three foot in diameter.

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My brother actually held it up and
we took a picture of it with my

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camera. It was a spherical shape
and they were woven together, almost like

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a wicker back, but into a
complete ball. It looked like a beach

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ball made of twigs. And now
I'm not exaggerating, that's one of the

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craziest things I've ever seen. It
was close to the pile of the Kenley.

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I kept walking up up the hill
and beside a big white uak tree.

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There were three probably two inches in
diameter. They were broken off on

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both ends, and they were all
relatively, like I said, two and

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a half foot long, and they
were leaned up against a tree perfectly side

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by side. And this is in
the middle of a three hundred acres plus

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property. Craft factors are not an
issue here. It had to have been

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done by a creature that I saw
or another creature. I know that may

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sound like I'm obspective. It has
to be, and it's not because people

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don't just break off limbs like that
and set them beside a tree a mile

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and a half off the road from
any how. And Oh, I'm just

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going to do this because it's something
to do. Like I said, it

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was very everything was so particular.
We went and inspected that area show by

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off of what I had found,
and we decided to go across the road.

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He had a doghouse blind over there
with a chairer and a bucket in

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it, and stay tuned for more
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After these messages, we went to
go check his trail camera he had

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his shot. Knowing I had I
believe my riffle, we went to go

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pull the camera the card on the
camera, and we noticed that his stand

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was turned upside down. That blindness
turned upside down, our overturned excuse me,

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it was on its side, and
his bucket and his chair with me.

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We looked in within the twenty yard
area to see maybe if the wind

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had done it or whatever, but
it was hard to blow a chair in

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a bucket over twenty yards. We're
a hard wood bottle of the window to

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get that bat here on the way
down, or we're pretty much a wooded

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area. We kept walking down the
pipeline looking for these items and decided to

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veer off into the woods to our
right, which was on the edge of

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the cutover clear, and we found
his bucket in his chair in an area

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that was constructed of time limbs,
leaned up against a bunch of sawbriers and

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then had pine strall on top of
it. That bucket within one of these

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enclosures that actually looked like an enclosure
where something would get out of the rain.

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It was automatted down on the inside. I automatically started looking for hair,

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but I couldn't find any. I
believe it was because of the dantness

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of the area at the time.
And we found his bucket, and this

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is quite a distance away from his
stand, I would say over two hundred

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yards from his stand, which for
a person to come and deliberately take a

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bucket in a chair out of his
stand, walk into the thickest foot over

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that you've ever been in your life, and place these islands inside saw briars.

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We found his chair about fifty yards
behind that, on the edge of

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that hardwood line, and it was
placed beside a tree, a pine,

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and hadn't been damaged, hadn't been
broken anything like that. We're looking at

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each other, Okay, something has
gotten to this equipment. We began to

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walk back down towards the creek.
Just said if we can see any footprint.

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Because my uncle was a believer,
he believed, he told me like

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I first state before, he told
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And then at that point, okay, I'm fired up. I'm ready.

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I want to see these footprints.
I want to make sure that what

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I saw was it. I don't
want to look crazy and when and having

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someone with me like him who's been
there, has experienced that helps out a

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lot. He's about it too.
So we go down toward the creek bank

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and we start looking and I swear, just like on the TV shows,

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I heard a knock in the woods. He told me, we got real

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bo. He said, that's all
they community. We heard a knock in

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front of us. Probably I'm gonna
get left in one hundred yards, and

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then we heard one further up the
hill a little bit further. He said,

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they're in the area. I'm still
looking around to see what my surroundings

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already, what's coming up? And
this dough we're standing, probably in for

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the fort. It's grown female deer
though, runs right towards us out of

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the woods. We could hear the
film. This is probably within This happened

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with the time we stopped and we
heard the knocks and we were talking about

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there, this dough comes running towards
us and she's the exaulted. She looks

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like people run deer dogs down here
all the time, and when they run

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deer, they'll be running for hours, and those deer will get so tired

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and their tongue will be hanging out
just they looked just like they've been shaped

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all day. This dough from running
towards us, and when she got to

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us, she got in between us
and stopped. It really threw me off

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because this deer saw and stopped in
between us. And we looked at the

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deer. I could have ran over
and grabbed the deer. It was so

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close to me. She was being
chased by in the direction of the knovel,

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this little direction she came from.
She looked at me. We cut

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our eyes to each other, and
we looked at this deer, and we

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didn't know what she was going to
do. She stood there for probably fifty

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twenty six and it aspounded me.
I've never seen anything like that. And

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she ran back towards the direction that
we had came, which will have been

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the direct opposite direction of the way
we were facing. We heard another knot

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and a whistling sound. We conversed
together, got really close and he said

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they're probably chasing the deer, and
he said, that's crazy. She ran

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in between us and all, and
she was so scared of what was shaping

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her that she ran up to two
humans and that, Like I said,

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I can't say it enough. That's
crazy to me. These white tailed deer

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down here, they don't play with
anybody. If they see here, they'll

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run. If they smell you,
they'll blow. White tail deer have very

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elevated senses. She found refuge in
us, and that really opened my eyes

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to something else. With the previous
day me hunting and seeing that those two

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days look at this creature and put
their head back down and cautiously began eating.

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And then this deer runs away from
the knot and the whistling crown.

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He was counter productive, you know
what I mean? Like, why were

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these five deer not scared of it, but this one's running from it.

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It's just it almost made me believe
that some of them are good and some

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of them are bad. It was
very confusing at the time. Then as

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the future experiences go on, I
realized that the two deer that I first

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saw were probably just dumb, because
this thing will damage the human or animal

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or an object if it gets in
its way. And I believe that dough

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with food that day and these preatures
try to catch it. I've heard that

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story over and over again about dough. Even some bucks running up to hunters

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and laying down under their tree stands, just exhausted, and they hear or

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see things in the wood that were
chasing these deer. It's fascinating to me.

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We have white tail deer here in
North Carolina. I walk down to

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check my mailbox and there's a big
open field down across the road, and

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I can hear the deer sometime when
I'm walking up. I hear them spooking

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and snorting. I can shine a
flashlight and I see the eye shine going

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up the hill. They don't stick
around when a person's walking up on them.

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So it's just really interesting. How
like you said, maybe the first

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two were done, I don't know, or they just weren't on the media

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for that particular day, and the
first one you saw was just taking a

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struggle. But I think you're absolutely
right. I agree with you. When

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these things are in hunt mode and
they're communicating, and that I believe they

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worked together to hunt. I think
that the doe was definitely on the venue.

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Definitely, that was mytholic Black.
You mentioned something about you've seen these

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things firsthand and what they can do
to animals or is that sort of tie

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into your next encounter or your next
experience? What happened with that? It

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does, and my uncle came up
with the weirdest theory, and I still

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believe that it could be true.
We poured historial FM forward and took it

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home and looked at the pictures.
They're worth a deer that came in,

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and I believe the camera polled every
five seconds. I believe it was.

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It was the old multra camera with
a big quirky that came outdated, but

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it had still a good picture quality, and that's where we got our pictures

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of the creature. Without it stand. There was another deer that came in

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at three o'clock that morning to that
corn pile where the multi camera was.

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Of course, it took photos of
that deer in three frames. One when

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it walked in, it appeared in
the picture. The next one it was

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turning away, so that was within
five seconds, and you could see behind

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it two big eyes, blowing eyes
and probably you know, judging from a

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trill cam picture. I'm just going
to throw the number that I thought.

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As far as the height, I
would say probably six and a half feet

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tall if I were to scale it. When judge it for myself. This

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pine tree, a small one,
probably a sapling, probably three inches in

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diameter at most, and then tapering
up was pushed over and you could see

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the creature standing and its eyes and
looking, and that deer evidently sensed it

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and ran away. The next picture
is that pine tree halfway folded back over,

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so it was all the way down. And then the next picture caught

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it when it wasn't poorly a wreck, but at maybe at forty five degree

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angry. So we taught some pretty
cool pictures of live action there. I

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know you mentioned you took one of
the ball. If you if you have

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any of those and you'd like to
send them to me, I'd love to

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take a look at him and maybe
throw them up on the website. Sure

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I will. I've got footprint pictures. I've got the pictures of the ball

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and the kindling pictures in the trail
camp pictures like that. That pretty much

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led to the whole obsession with taking
a picture of what I saw that was

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out of play like we had talked
about with the with the animals being in

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hunt mode. Most of the pictures
that I've that that we got of the

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creature stalking Frey were at night after
midnight, between midnight and save or in

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the morning, which is probably one
of the reasons why we didn't feeme any

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deer that year. But we took
it upon ourselves to go across the road

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from it's house in a very dense
forest area and go see if we could

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see an ice shine or anything like
that. My brother, my Fell,

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and my uncle Swen brother, my
dad, we all went down into the

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woods and they were shining a spotlight
here and there. Of course we weren't

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a spotlight and animals. We were
trying to see if we could catch this

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creature. They shot an ice shine
probably forty yards in front of us,

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and it turned out to be a
postum. My brother saw the eyes,

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of course, was scared to death, so he shot the possum off the

410
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:32.240
tree. It was probably hitting up
on a branch that was probably four foot

411
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:33.640
off the ground, and it was
mine of it's own business. And how

412
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.400
he win some, you lose some, and some people just get scared and

413
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:40.559
pull the trigger on something. That's
why you can't take everybody with you.

414
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:47.640
But when that Postum was killed that
night, my uncle had a seventy five

415
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:51.920
pound blue razor's edge pit bull.
Her name was Deady. She was scared

416
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.480
vight, a grizzly bear. It
didn't matter if she was a very protective

417
00:29:55.519 --> 00:30:00.279
dog. We'd actually wanted to haul
on her. I mean she was canacious.

418
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:06.440
That dog that night ended up having
its head smashed flat. And I

419
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:10.920
don't mean you know black marks,
paul marks, the hall bited head of

420
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.480
mountain wine around here, We got
them codas. Nothing got this dog.

421
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:21.039
This dog wasn't ran over by a
car. Something stumped that seventy five pound

422
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:26.240
hit bull's head completely flat. It
was very disturbing. We love the dog,

423
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.839
of course, hate it when an
animal passes away like that. That's

424
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.440
not something that happened every day,
that needless to say. But he was

425
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:38.759
healed the same night that my brother
shot that Boston. Later on, after

426
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:41.319
we went to bed, of course, we woke up and there she was

427
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.279
laying down there in the edge of
the woods with her head mashed flat.

428
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:48.039
And if I wouldn't have seen it, I would have never believed it.

429
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:51.960
But I lived firsthand, and my
uncle told me, and this is gonna

430
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.519
found out there. But he told
me, he said that he believed,

431
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:02.319
and I'm starting to believe it too, that these creatures find some animals in

432
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:08.160
the woods in Dearing. Maybe they
have a relationship with them. Maybe the

433
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.799
poffin can sit on this tree for
free tonight. We're not gonna hunt even

434
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:14.960
just let him do a thing.
They may walk by and ped them.

435
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.720
I really don't know what's going on, but we experienced that if you take

436
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.079
one of theirs, we'll take one
of you. I know that may feel

437
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:27.799
crazy, but that's really what we
have determined. Because we went down into

438
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:33.119
its territory, my brother unfortunately killed
a help with animal. Then this dog

439
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.160
ends up dead, so it's kind
of either she was in the wrong pace

440
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.920
of the wrong time, or they
weren't happy about us being down there,

441
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:45.039
and we took one of the most
dowful preachers in the forest in the woods

442
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.680
away from them, so they decided
they were going to do the same to

443
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.119
us. That may sound pretty far
fetched, but he really does believe that.

444
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.960
No, I don't think it sounds
far fitched at all. I think

445
00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.920
these things are intelligent and I think
they have some sort of family structure.

446
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.720
It's not far off at all that
they would have some sort of relationship with

447
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.400
the animals that they share the forest
with. I don't find that strange at

448
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:12.119
all, to be honest, I
think it's probably pretty accurate. I'm glad

449
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.039
you do, because I've sat for
a long time. I've lost sleep over

450
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:19.079
that one many night. We really
saw what this creature was capable of.

451
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:22.519
You think about it. A pitbull, they are known as aggressive animals,

452
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:28.079
and she was. She wasn't actually
the only dog that was hard during our

453
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:32.279
time there. And this was the
next experience that I've encountered. My uncle

454
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:38.079
had a massive and boxer mix.
She was brindled. She's probably seventy pound

455
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:42.480
dolls. She had been sent obedient
school, very protective of his children.

456
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.000
He actually got her because they live
in a rural area. We both work

457
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:49.160
in the old fielder gone from home
all the time. He got the dog

458
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:52.079
to protect his wife and kid.
She is very good at it. She

459
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:57.039
wouldn't let anybody come on that property. She wasn't scared of anything. Wonderful

460
00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.880
an when she since passed away,
but we had walked in the edge of

461
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:02.519
the garden behind the house. He
had actually put up some motion block.

462
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.720
The motion likely went off one night, and of course we thought it could

463
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:08.680
be a smaller animal or whatever,
because we didn't hear the dog backing up.

464
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:15.079
But we decided to go out to
the edge of the garden that night

465
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:17.880
because we kept hearing different towns out
there in the edge of the woods.

466
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:20.920
We were coming in and out of
the house, grabbing things out of the

467
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:22.680
truck and whatnot, and so we
said I would go down there and shine

468
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:28.359
and see what happened. My dad
and his wife went down the pipeline behind

469
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:32.119
the garden and went into the woods
probably i'd say seventy five yards from where

470
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:35.279
me and my off were standing at
the edge of the garden, and he

471
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:39.319
had fighting red dog with him.
She was there for protection, of course,

472
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:45.200
and my dad and his wife yelled
out to my offer Stephen, and

473
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:49.440
I, Hey, something's coming to
you. When they entered the woods,

474
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.200
they heard something running through the woods
right there. And that's a place where

475
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:58.039
we had found some structure looking things, and I've got pictures of them with

476
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:01.480
the pine straw the branches laid against
the tree, and it looks like something

477
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:05.359
that had been laying down the inside
of it, almost like a wooden cave.

478
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:07.800
Pretty much as I I can explain
it. My uncle had Pipa with

479
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.519
him and he was fully intend something
to come out of the woods. Pipen

480
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.519
was going to be what perfected us. So we heard the running towards us,

481
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.119
and he unput pipe from the leash, and she went into the woods.

482
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.960
And this is wild to me.
I don't know what could have done

483
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:27.480
it other than this creature. Pipea
went into the wood and we heard the

484
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:32.880
most blood curdling yell, just that
deep, grillly yell, and that dog

485
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:39.719
was thrown over both of our head
back out into the garden. Something picked

486
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:44.840
that dog up, and it sounds
so far fetched. Her she was on

487
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:49.119
top of whatever was there. We're
probably my dad and his wife were probably

488
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.480
pushing in front of us, probably
at that time forty five to fifty yards

489
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.159
in front of us, so there's
a good distance in between them. And

490
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:59.760
when she heard the woods and we
heard that yell, shortly after, she

491
00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:04.320
was thrown out of the woods and
landed on her back right there in front

492
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.360
of her. She was up.
Like I said, I'm five eleven.

493
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:09.519
She was thrown when she come out
of the woods. She was over my

494
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:15.440
head. Seven you found dog being
thrown that high, and it's tenacious that

495
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:20.000
she would. She had really gotten
a good grip on whateveryone was out there

496
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.280
when she come out of the woods. We heard and it sounded like someone's

497
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:27.880
running a skid steer for there.
I mean, it was just stuff being

498
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.199
pushed over and it sound like her
cap and running off to our left,

499
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:37.039
down towards the creek. We ended
up walking down that or pretty much running

500
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.079
down the side of the wood to
follow it as far as we could to

501
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:43.760
maybe get some kind of high shine
or some kind of sight of this creature,

502
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:46.079
and we never did. It broke
towards the creek and it was too

503
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:49.840
thick and it was dangerous for us
to go in, especially that time of

504
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.840
night. Whether we walked up on
edterfaral hogs or anything else for that matter.

505
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:57.960
We were just okay, this is
a good important stopping point. And

506
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.800
the fact that doll was thrown that
eye towards us, it really floored me.

507
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:07.800
I really respected the strength that this
animal I have. I respected being

508
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:14.079
just the reveriency of the animal because
it's out there in the woods learning how

509
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:19.280
to protect itself, whether it be
a juvenile or grown it experiences when it

510
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.159
experienced this thing in nature, I
believe it's prepared for that. But when

511
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:27.639
humans start becoming a variable, they
have to learn what we're gonna throw at

512
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.039
them, like we have to learn
what they're gonna throw at us and not

513
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:34.079
not it in being a seventy pound
doll. It makes the hal on the

514
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:38.119
back of my neck stand up because
Northwest of Way Dana is occasional. Black

515
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.719
marry. You make me one a
seventy pound doll being thrown that you've got

516
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:46.599
a little out there. Yeah,
man, that's wild. I've heard many

517
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:52.239
stories about these things and they don't
seem to like dogs. I've never heard

518
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.920
of any type of encounter that's been
great with a dog. It's always been

519
00:36:55.239 --> 00:37:00.760
aggressive or the dog's been attacked or
something along those line. Yeah, that's

520
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.440
fascinating, man, Just to imagine
the size of whatever grab that dog and

521
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.079
threw it. And that's the thing. Bears don't pick dogs up and grab

522
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:13.280
them and throw them. It just
doesn't happen. You got to have thumbs

523
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:16.239
for that. Just the fact that
most of these encounters get attributed to black

524
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:22.159
bear, it just it blows my
mind that black bear can't do those kinds

525
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:23.480
of things. And what else in
the woods is going to pick up a

526
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:28.159
seventy pound dog and throw it at
you? That's right, that's fascinating.

527
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.599
Man. Is that all you guys
have experienced? Have there been other experiences

528
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:34.559
that you've had, good, bad, or indifferent? I've had a few

529
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.599
more. And we decided that we
were going to hunt together from that point

530
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:42.639
on. And my little cousin,
my uncle's oldest son, had decided that

531
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.400
he wanted to go hunting. So
at that point I said, okay,

532
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.320
I'll change the area that I'm going
hunting in and I'll take him with me,

533
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.639
and we'll go sit in a tower
stand down in front of the house,

534
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:57.320
which was probably directly in front of
their house from where we found the

535
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.519
pit bull. That was I would
say probably three hundred yards away from there

536
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.519
through the woods. We worked that
far away, but we were far enough

537
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.719
away where I felt like we were
in an open spot where if anything came

538
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:09.719
to us, I could make sure
that both of us were safe. And

539
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:14.280
I didn't hunt those wooded areas as
much anymore, and I wanted to take

540
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:16.119
my little cousin down there and of
course I couldn't show any weakness in front

541
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:20.079
of him, So yeah, we're
going down through the wood. I followed

542
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:23.199
the pipeline down to my uncle's brother
in law, which would have been my

543
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:27.880
uncle by marriage. Of course.
Hen it's hunting spot that he hadn't hunted

544
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.559
in a while. But his stand
was still there and force they had kept

545
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:35.039
it up to date and cleaned out, cleared. We got in and there

546
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:38.119
were a waft net in the stand. Me I've already walked down this far.

547
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:42.480
We might as well fit down under
this tree beside the stand and not

548
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.679
get bit by wafts or stung by
walks and finish our hunt. I love

549
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:50.000
to use a grunk call, always
have, trying to call in a big

550
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.280
buck. That's what we're all chasing
out here anyway. And my little cousin,

551
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:54.760
he was fascinated with him, just
having time with his life. And

552
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:58.440
of course here I am sitting thinking, okay, am I gonna see this

553
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:00.960
thing? Am I gonna have to
explain to him I'm gonn keep him running

554
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:02.039
away from me. When he sees
just he'll never want to go in the

555
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:07.199
woods again. My mind was in
a thousand different places while we were hunt.

556
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.360
I started blowing that grunk called just
five things up a little bit and

557
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:14.239
take my mind. And I'm sitting
there shaking him because I'm thinking, Okay,

558
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:15.639
I've got to be strong with the
kid. And here I am a

559
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.519
grown man trying to keep my wits
about me while I'm waiting for a white

560
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.119
tailed deer to walk out. I
tell you, after I started grunting behind

561
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:30.239
me, I heard footsteps, heavy
footsteps, probably anywhere from twenty to fifty

562
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:32.519
yards behind me. I'm just gonna
throw that number out there. I'd say

563
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:35.960
it was no more than fifty yards. I wouldn't have heard it if it

564
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:37.639
was any further than that. That's
the way I can judge it. But

565
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:43.480
I smelled that mail weekend, something
just withinside of me. Told myself,

566
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:45.960
okay, yes, is that I'm
grunting. This is a deer or during

567
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:51.800
the rut he just smells bad,
marking the territory whatever it glands or yeah.

568
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:53.920
I just told my cup that's what
it was. And I grunt it

569
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:57.760
and I'd quit, and I'd grunt
and I'd quit, and I'm thinking,

570
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:00.119
this dear is gonna pop out in
the open any minute. I'm go to

571
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:02.840
take this deer, and we're gonna
be good to go, and stay tuned

572
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:07.280
for more sasquatch hot to see.
We'll be right back after these messages.

573
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:15.840
Little did I know the deer would
never come out, but footstep will continue

574
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:21.000
for an hour and a half from
my left at the same distance of twenty

575
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:27.199
to fifty yards and maybe a half
moon, so I have circle around me.

576
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.960
Never in the open, but I
could see through the edge of the

577
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.639
woods when it was at my farm, and I could see the same probably

578
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.599
i'd say at that point it was
probably fifty yards away through the woods.

579
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:45.599
I could see just a hint of
the dark brown, reddish hair walking through

580
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:50.440
the woods, and my little cousin's
sitting there with me. I can't afford

581
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.079
to get up and run. I
have to sit there wait for this thing

582
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:57.880
to go or come out and meet
protect us or whatever. But it's best

583
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.360
not to run from a predatory animal. So my ground and I sat there

584
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:04.920
hoping that we'd make it out live. It continued to do that, like

585
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.079
I said, for an hour and
a half, and when I saw it,

586
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:08.320
I was just waiting, Okay,
when you get out of stock,

587
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:12.639
we're gonna leave, and we're gonna
leave rapidly, but we're not gonna run

588
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.840
my little cousin. I kept telling
him, he doesn't know. He can't

589
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:17.280
see over my side to see what
I'm looking at us. See. Okay,

590
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:20.760
now he's gonna come out in a
minute. I kept comforting, telling

591
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.159
him us what it was, and
it was comforting me too. Once he

592
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:28.760
got out of stock to my farm
and began walking in front of us through

593
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:30.480
some thick woods, I thought,
okay, we got enough space between us.

594
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:34.639
I said, okay, doesn't let's
go, and we got up and

595
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.400
we started walking out, and I
tried my best not to look over my

596
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:38.800
back, but I kept looking over
my back the whole time. And I

597
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:43.320
walked to the truck, unlocked the
door, put him in the truck,

598
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:47.599
and then went around the side and
went back towards mylefle's house. His mother

599
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:53.599
in law and his mother mew in
a adjacent house to there. And when

600
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:58.159
we got up to the house,
his mother in law came down the porch

601
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:01.000
and was almost in tear, and
she said, thank god, y'all are

602
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:05.320
okay? If man, we're fine, We're good. We didn't see anything

603
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:07.920
or whatever. Of course, I
wasn't going to cow dustin what I saw.

604
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.639
She said, there was a man
who lived down the road. He

605
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:13.360
lives right she'd explained to me where
he lived, And of course I didn't

606
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:16.239
know that hadn't been further past that
area, but she said he had stopped

607
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:20.079
in their yard. We were close
enough to the road where we could hear

608
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.840
traffic on the two lane way back
behind us. This man had stopped in

609
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:30.360
curlyard and told her that when he
was coming around the corner ride where the

610
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.960
Pike Wine is, that we went
down to go hunt, he said,

611
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.159
a monkey. And this is what
this older gentleman, he was probably sixty

612
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:39.639
five years old, respected in the
community. Just eat porter, he told

613
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:43.840
them, because they were his neighbors
and because this was on their property,

614
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.599
he said, this monkey walked up
the steep ditch on the right side of

615
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:51.440
the road from me, got up
on two legs and walked across the road

616
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:55.119
and entered the woods. That would
have been the direction that was directly behind

617
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.599
my back where I heard the footsteps. Of course, I had seen what

618
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:04.960
I'd thaw, so I knew that
it was there. But this man backed

619
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:07.400
up my account. He backed up
what I said, that this creature that

620
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:14.079
he saw came right in behind us
and would have been in the same area

621
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:15.679
that I saw here in the footsteps
and saw what I saw, and she

622
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.719
was beside herself. She was glad
that we were okay, and yes,

623
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.119
man, we're fine. And I
told her, I think maybe it's best

624
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.800
that we gived us on some more
time, let him get a little older

625
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:28.800
or whatever before we take him back
in there, because if he sees this

626
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:30.880
thing, it's going to really change. I've ever gonne want to hunt again.

627
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:35.039
Kid at eleven twelve years old to
see this and they're like, the

628
00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:37.880
woods are not for me. And
I didn't want that for him. I'd

629
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:39.760
rather have to be together two or
three of us at the same time and

630
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:44.920
let him have a good experience.
And just thankfully he didn't see what I

631
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:47.760
saw, but that man was courteous
enough to say, hey, you've got

632
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:51.719
something going on here. I just
want to tell you what it is,

633
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.800
really eye opening experience for us there. It's really cool when you got somebody

634
00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:00.360
else that can actually coroborate what you've
seen. Not that you necessarily need that,

635
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.800
but it's always a good thing for
somebody to say, hey, dude,

636
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:06.639
I saw X, Y and Z, and you're like, I saw

637
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:09.000
the same thing. It just adds
layers to the credibility of the story.

638
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:14.079
Frankly, I totally know what you're
saying about the wanting a good experience hunting

639
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:16.639
and whatnot. And it seems to
me that people who tend to have the

640
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:22.840
more aggressive type behavior, particularly in
the South, seems to be hunters who

641
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.679
are out by themselves or maybe two
people. They don't seem to have the

642
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:30.000
same aggression when there's three, four, or five six people gathered in an

643
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:35.800
area. Just it's more of a
curiosity and a playful type behavior, maybe

644
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:38.840
some pebble throwing and stuff like that, but the actual aggression. Just like

645
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.400
a person, you're not going to
walk up into a group of strange people

646
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:45.679
and start a problem with one person
when he's got six friends standing next to

647
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:49.559
him. So I guess it makes
sense. It's like regular human type behaviors.

648
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.679
Is that the last thing that you
guys experienced, has he been anything

649
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:55.840
since that? There have It's a
lot of action out there. To be

650
00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.039
honest with you, we have.
Actually we've started to believe that if we

651
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.559
don't make our presence morning on in
the woods, that's going to get to

652
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:07.280
the point where we can't go in
him anymore because the aggressiveness for us started

653
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:14.760
closer to his home. He had
purchased a trailer, single wide trailer sometime

654
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:16.199
early in the two thousand and that, in fact, he was going to

655
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:21.039
remodel it, either retailer or do
something with it, placing on the property

656
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:22.159
for a hunting damp out. I
don't know what he was going to do

657
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:25.559
with it, but he had it
set right there between his house and the

658
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:29.719
garden behind the barn. It was
in good shape. He got it for

659
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.400
recreational purposes, I'm sure, but
he wanted to maintain it, going to

660
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:35.679
make it better than it was when
he got it. We were gonna do

661
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:39.639
some remodeling work to it. Stuff. One night, his mother in law's

662
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:44.239
mother, of course, his wife's
grandmother, had come over to their house,

663
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:47.679
just walked across the field there deep
supper. They finished supper and it

664
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:52.400
was time for her to go.
I wasn't there at the time, but

665
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:58.400
I witnessed the destruction that it left
here. When he was walking its grandmother

666
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:05.000
out to her home, they heard
and flymate found He's found like a monkey,

667
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.239
And that's what his grandmother had said. She said that sounds like a

668
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.519
monkey. What is that, Steve? And he said, I don't know,

669
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:14.800
and let's get you home and you
know, and I'll go check it

670
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.360
out, he said, when he
got her into the house. Whole time

671
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:22.639
he's walking back to the house,
he could hear just it sounded like metal

672
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:30.079
being crunched and that whooping nearly primate
found. So he went in the house

673
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:35.280
and grabbed his flashlight it spotlight and
his revolver and went back around the back

674
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:37.800
of the trailer to see if someone
was breaking in or whatever. He saw

675
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:43.079
the creek and when he shine in
flight, the creature started running away and

676
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.719
he chased behind it to see where
it would go. And he fired at

677
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:52.199
this one there a few times just
to scare it away and to see what

678
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.800
it had been doing. I have
pictures of it. It pretty crazy to

679
00:46:55.880 --> 00:47:00.760
me that trailer of cource had that
kind of in fighting on it, maybe

680
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:05.360
like a light metal fighting. I
don't know how to explain it, but

681
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:10.000
it was an older trailer home.
This creature had ripped two of those panels

682
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:15.760
off and it began tearing the insulation
out of that trailer from the outside.

683
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:19.519
It tried to get in the door, I believe, but the door was

684
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.440
locked in the back and it may
have butted up against her or something.

685
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.320
We didn't see any visible damage to
the door, but it it grabbed and

686
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:30.159
you could see where this had been
grabbed and mangled and pulled off the side

687
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:35.920
of that trailer and insulation strode all
over the ground. This preacher was trying

688
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:40.159
to go inside that trailer and for
what to loop, to find something to

689
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:45.159
eat, I don't know, but
it was making a big commotion and tried

690
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:49.960
to get inside that trailer. And
that's not the only experience that he's had

691
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.679
with this scripture trying to enter a
dwelling or a building for that matter.

692
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:57.559
It's been in the barn and they
got big two of six horse falls in

693
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.239
the barn. It's been in there. It just rigged havoc inside the barn.

694
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:04.920
And there's someone always there. If
somebody was coming up there and just

695
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:08.400
destroying property, someone would know it. And there's five people that live on

696
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:12.519
that property, one of which works
out of town all the time. But

697
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.519
the mother in law and the grandmother
and the wife, and the forced children

698
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:20.320
well there most of the time.
Man of the time kids are at school.

699
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:24.000
It's hard to believe that anyone could
come up there and just do it

700
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:28.760
if they please, while these people
are defending their own property, and this

701
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:30.360
creature just took it at Okay,
I'm going to go down there and rich

702
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.719
thestoven off this troiler house and go
in it. And he or he ripped

703
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:37.280
it all the way to the studs
in the wall and began grabbing the two

704
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:43.079
before and you could see where partially
two of the nails and the space of

705
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:46.000
boards between two of the studs had
been pulled back. Why it was trying

706
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:51.639
to get in there, nobody knows, but that was another experience. Shortly

707
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:55.880
after, I know that the motion
likes and all, they had started getting

708
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:59.639
a little more activy toward the house. The older people that go out and

709
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.199
dealt the scraps from suffering stuff out
in the back door or behind the bone

710
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:07.239
or whatever. When they started duffing
a lot of scrap, they started having

711
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.199
a lot more activity. The dogs
wore running the house and hide under the

712
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:13.840
bed, just different things that he
would go out there and hear things,

713
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:16.079
hear things run through the woods.
One night he actually saw the creature running

714
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:20.280
back into the woods, and it
was scared of him because I think he

715
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.679
startled it. I think he came
out the front door intitially and came around

716
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:27.440
the house just creeping until he got
behind the barn. He was shining the

717
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:34.000
light and it runs away. So
the only aggressiveness that had had towards objects

718
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:38.039
or animals that's been a dog and
pretty much property damage. There's been no

719
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:44.920
human horm violent nature towards humans at
all, just it letting us know that

720
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.840
it's there and it's going to do
what it wants to do unless we stop

721
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:52.039
it. And that's what's scary about
it. And that's why we think that

722
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.760
possibly if we don't really get in
those woods and let our presence be known,

723
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:59.000
we're not gonna be able to go
back in for a while. It

724
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:02.039
feels like we could probab probably do
another interview, and you could probably talk

725
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:06.480
for another hour about your experiences,
because it seems like you got all kinds

726
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.159
of things going on. It almost
sounds like when you're talking about the folks

727
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:14.360
dumping the scraps out there, it's
almost like they're having an unintended habituation situation

728
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:17.920
where they're feeding these things with the
scraps and not really meaning to. If

729
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:22.400
the activity is picking up because of
the scraps being duped. That may be

730
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.039
something to certainly be aware of moving
forward, for sure, because I've heard

731
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:29.599
that from other people. You start
doing things that are not normal and then

732
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:32.599
you almost draw these things in and
they're finding a free food source or an

733
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:37.719
easy food source, and it's like
the activity picks up around the house.

734
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:40.119
They were dumping the scraps out for
the doll just go away from the house

735
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:44.000
where they didn't have to smell them
on this thing that scares the dogs to

736
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.000
death. The dogs will run back
to the house and to this day they

737
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:50.800
know when the breach is outside because
the dogs at home. I think two

738
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:52.880
nights ago we were on a job
and his wife caught them at an age

739
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:58.719
running the house that the rowty got
on the table and Rebel got under the

740
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:00.599
bed. That they went out side
and it was just so quiet, and

741
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:04.760
the dogs were scared to go outside
when it was just one of those things

742
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:07.400
where these dogs don't have a bluff
in on this creature. This creature is

743
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.000
doing what it wants to do.
When they dump those scraps out for the

744
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:14.840
dogs, the dogs won't even stick
around, Like when this comes into the

745
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:20.239
area, Like you said, it's
unintentional that they are trying to do something

746
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:23.519
good for the animals of the area, but they end up attracting the unwanted

747
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:28.639
attention. Yeah, it's definitely something
to be aware of. And I think

748
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:31.800
a lot of times people make the
assumption that these things are the friendly forest

749
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:36.639
giants, and I look at them
like I'm encountering a grizzly bear. I'm

750
00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:39.119
not going to go up and feed
and try to pet a grizzly bear,

751
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:44.239
and I certainly don't want a grizzly
bear hanging around my house and trying to

752
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:47.559
get inside and terrorize my dog.
I'm not in the camp of going out

753
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:52.079
and shooting them and killing them,
and I think that's probably the only way

754
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.760
it's ever going to be proven as
to what it actually is. But it's

755
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:59.360
live and live, and you have
to take precautions around your house when you

756
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:00.760
live in these time to the area, just like you do with bear.

757
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:05.000
But you got a secure foods.
You can't just leave things out and because

758
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:09.000
the unintended consequences could be something that
you're definitely are going to regret. Fascinating

759
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:13.000
stuff. Man, I can't thank
you enough for coming on and sharing your

760
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.320
experiences tonight. It's been a pleasure
man, and I really enjoyed hearing your

761
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:20.400
stories. I appreciate it very much. Oh yeah, thank you for hearing

762
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:22.119
me out and let me share the
things. And I have a lot of

763
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:27.800
questions for people as well. I'll
start listening to the show and get some

764
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:31.440
other accounts thee maybe similarities or differences
in regional behavior and things like that.

765
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:36.760
And you know of anyone, And
that's just me throwing a feeler out there,

766
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:42.360
or a group of people or something
that are interested and would like to

767
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:49.119
be involved in maybe finding more about
the creature, potentially getting pictures, getting

768
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:53.760
accounts where their stell of this thing
or multiple creatures, and having a certain

769
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:59.760
area of wood. They're there,
They're in numbers, they're strong. We've

770
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:04.599
tried to contact BFRO to come out
and do a show at this place,

771
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:08.559
because this activities went on for years. This is twenty twenty one. I'm

772
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:13.000
saying since early two thousand. They're
strong here. We've been trying to get

773
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:15.320
a group of people to come out
and check it out and see if it

774
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:19.760
can help the community, if it
can help SCIDS, if it can help

775
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:24.920
researchers, historians, whatever, we're
opening the doors people. If someone wants

776
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:28.760
to come there, we'd be more
than glad to give them the free reign

777
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:30.440
of the place just to come check
it out. We've let certain people put

778
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:35.159
up cameras on the property. They've
gotten pictures of deer hunters in the area,

779
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:37.239
have told us their account. If
you know of anyone who wants to

780
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:43.000
take a trip and wants to come
see what three hundred plus acres inhabited by

781
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:46.199
multiple stasquatch or we will give you
the key to the gate. Absolutely,

782
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:50.440
man, it sounds great, and
anybody that would like to do that,

783
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:52.960
they can certainly shoot me an email, go to the website. I'll connect

784
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:55.360
you guys. Thanks again, Tyler, I appreciate it very much. Man,

785
00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:00.719
yes, stir, thank you and
have a nice day. They say

786
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:09.679
you don't gotta go home, but
you can't stay and I don't want to

787
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:40.039
be a world oppen. Try this
chart. That chart, everything came right

788
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:49.239
back, right back, Joy from
me, joy stay right there, come

789
00:54:49.320 --> 00:55:47.639
in right away. Susan still start
says stands Sissie stay still sims. Also

790
00:55:49.079 --> 00:56:00.400
games in statesssts, things things these