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Today we're diving into a hot topic
brewing in Miami, Florida. It seems

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the celebration of Black History Month at
iprep Academy is stirring up some controversy.

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But here's the kicker. Parents are
being asked to sign permission slips for their

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children to participate in educational programming related
to Black History Month. Yep, you

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heard that right. Learning about Black
history is so dangerous you need a permission

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slip to participate In a time where
discussions about parental rights and education are heating

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up, this move has sparked concern
among parents and school officials alike. So

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grab your popcorn because we're about to
unpack the drama surrounding this unexpected permission slip

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saga. This story was from Patch
dot Com in Miami, published February eighth,

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twenty twenty four. As usual,
I'm going to have a lot to

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talk about, but I thought i'd
hand it off to Kelly first. What

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are your thoughts? Kelly? Oh, I have so many thoughts about this.

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So first off, what's next?
We're going to need parental permission to

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learn algae because you know that was
invented by Arabs, spread around by Arabs.

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We're going to need permission to learn
about the Great Wall of China or

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the history of India. Do we
need permission to teach Jewish history? I'm

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really curious here where are we going
to draw this line? Land? What

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if I don't want my kids to
learn anything about French history? No Napoleon,

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right, Can I, as a
parent opt out of my yeahs out

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of that. I don't want to
know. I don't want to learn about

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short nerds. You know, a
lot a lot of science is done by

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brown people and by Asian people,
So am I going to have to give

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him permission to learn science as well? And you know that guy that invented

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the computer, that Babbage guy,
he was a foreigner too, So maybe

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I need to give permission to teach
computer sciences. This is ridiculous. It's

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like, I don't I don't even
know how to react to something so silly,

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except that the school doesn't know how
to react to it either. That

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was the crazy thing about it.
And I think we'll get into more of

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that. I think Cross Examiner are
probably going to talk about more of that.

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But let's pass it over to Helen
and see what she has to say.

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First, okay. So we talked
about lgb quya discrimination. So it's

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the fun. Let's add some racism
to the ship bag everybody. So here

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we are. And I am really
glad that the Department of Education in Miami

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Dade and some parents were like,
hey, not cool, this is not

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okay. I think that's really really
important because yes, this you have to

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follow the law, which is understandable. But learning about black history, which

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is American history, is too sensitive
because it might make somebody uncomfortable. Like

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I have problems with that a lot
because I learned about terrible things that happened

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when I went to history class and
I turned out. Okay, everybody,

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so you can feel bad, it'll
be fine, you know, like get

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an emotional support will It'll be great. So and I have said on the

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show before, and I was saying
again, I am very glad that my

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kids are now out of the Florida
school system before everything went to crap,

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because I don't have to sit there
and wonder if this comes into my counting.

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You'd be like do I have to
worry? Like if I want my

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kids to like learn black history,
I have to sign a goddamn note.

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It was just like they're like sensitive
topics. Would I was growing up,

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if there was a sense of topic
that was going to come up, like

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especially when I had to deal with
sexual nature, they would just tell parents,

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Hey, we're going to be teaching
you know, you know reproduction.

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You know I'm going through puberty.
Do you If you're going to opt out

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for your child not to take this
class, you can do that, but

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also understand that you're we're going to
give extra work for your you know,

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some other like you're not going to
get the videos, but you will be

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learning the same info, just not
in a graphic way. Basically, that's

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when I was in Catholic school,
y'all. So so now that people are

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just like, well, it's Black
History Month, let's talk about black history,

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the tragedies and the triumphs of both. Let's have that conversation, they're

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like, yeah, no, this
might make my kids feel bad, and

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let's write a note home to make
sure that we you know, how this

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thing's going to work. And there's
more nuance to this conversation and more going

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on with this article, but we're
going to talk more about that. I'm

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going to shoot it over to Eli
and talk about how this shitty is all

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kinds of silly. So I did
kind of wonder somewhat to your point as

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well. You talked about they have
to follow the law, and I did

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wonder a little bit, is maybe
there's so much going on in the legal

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landscape of education in Florida right now
that iprep Academy is just like, let's

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just make sure that we're doing this
correctly. But I think I think it

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it was a bad choice to I
don't think it was necessary to make this

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a better safe than sorry for you
know, this particular topic, just for

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teaching black history. It does seem
like the Florida Department of Education is trying

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to separate themselves from it a little
bit and rightly so. The article cites

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the department as claiming that, uh
direct quote, any insinuation that students need

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permission to study African American history is
a lie, and even some other things

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we're talking about this week on this
show that doesn't seem completely consistent with the

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reality of Florida right now. But
like you said, Kelly, like why

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can like you know, you mentioned
Great Wall of China and you know,

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algebra things. Why can they teach
about ancient Babylon, Ancient China, Egypt,

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just like it's any other lesson or
the Holocaust even without special permission.

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But actual significant people in American history
require special permission to learn about just because

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they were black. This whole idea
is just absolutely insane and pugmentation, like

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opinion matters, so and that's really
that's all. It's seems the defining variable.

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And I kind of like, I
wonder, like, was this just

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a school's attempt to make sure they're
falling within the confines of their ever changing

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you know, whatever is going on
in their education laws. But it's it's

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I just don't think this was the
right time to play it safe in that

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way across What do you think,
Well, it's there's a couple of facets

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here from a legal perspective. So
first of all, let's be clear,

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this is a public school, so
it's called eeprep Academy. That threw me

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for a loop. I'm like,
who cares. If it's a private school,

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they can do whatever they want as
far as they handle a curriculum.

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But apparently it's a magnet school in
Florida, so they're dealing with you know,

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elite kids here. But I actually
want to start at the end of

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the story and quote what you quoted, Eli, which was where the Florida

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Department of Education said that this was
a vote media driven lie and that any

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insinuation that they need a permission to
study African American history is absolute false.

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I want to break down that statement
because I believe this is double speak.

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What they said here is any insinuation
that students need permission to study African American

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history is absolutely false. But that's
not what the permission permission slip was for.

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The permission slip was for being taught
of African American history. So I'm

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wondering, Hey, if they're saying
students can study African American history all they

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want, but if you're going to
attend a presentation on it where you are

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taught African American history, then you
need a permission slip, which that was

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never denied by the Department of Education. I've not found a story where they

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said, oh, they said,
we don't need these slips anymore. In

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fact, I found a copy of
the slip and on the slip in case

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we're wondering, because the story talks
about, oh, yes, we are

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practicing self defense a lot of school
systems are doing this now. So we

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have a Holocaust survivor, we're going
to have permission slip there, Permission slip

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there. If somebody from outside of
the school is going to come and give

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a presentation, this permission slip I'm
going to read straight from it entitled is

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Black History Month presentations and readings types
of guests that may attend the activity or

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event, And it says student readers, dancers and presenters, etc. These

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were students in the school presenting to
their fellow students. That's what this was.

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This was not an outside company that
you need a permission slip for.

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This wasn't a survivor of some of
traumatic event. This was students talking to

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their fellow students in an organized fashion, and they demanded a permission slip.

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So technically what the government said is
true that you don't need a permission slip

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to study African American history. But
I think I've yet to see a correction

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issue to say you don't need a
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So that's point number one. It
reminds me of you know that double speak

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of a famous skit that was on
Stated Night Live back in the eighties,

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written by Al Franken, and it
talks to this exact point, and it's

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about President Carter drinks radioactive pepsi and
grows to be like ninety nine feet tall.

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And there's a press conference and the
reporter says, is it true that

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the president is over one hundred feet
tall? And the press secretary says,

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no, absolutely not. That's outrageous
assertion, that slander and I will not

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stand for such lives to be spread. And then the worses follow up,

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is the president over ninety feet tall? No comment? That's what they're doing

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here, is like this is a
media driven lie. And then people ask

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these follows up, follow up,
and it's silence. They haven't withdrawn the

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slips. So that's the other thing. I have a lot more to talk

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about, obviously, to go on
fu silly it is and it's not.

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It is not like I do think
it's silly because I like, when I

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was growing up, I just learned
black history as part of my curriculum,

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Like there was no noe sent my
parents' house and be like, your kid's

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gonna learn history? Do you get
to opt out? Like that didn't happen?

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And now I'm like, I'm like, really, it's like, is

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this what we're coming to people?
Anyway? I'm sorry, they're gonna history

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was George Washington Carver and that was
it. Well, don't forget all you

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got to why by the way,
Oh yeah, we need we need we

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need a new Harriet Tubman for an
underground railroad to hate to help people like

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Helen escape out of Florida. That's
what I do. These do. So

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one other quick observing before reminded me
of something Kelly. It's this sort of

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bs where the government. The last
episode we talked about them putting up a

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bill to criminalize basically people existing and
then sort of letting that die quietly.

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This where they're saying this is a
media driven lie and then there's silence and

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they don't retract the permission slip and
all that stuff. It reminds me very

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much of the patterns of lies that
we see coming from Christian conservatives in the

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government throughout history, where they lie
through a mission. And the example I

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want to give I did a podcast
a while ago on the McDonald's hop coffee

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case, and one of the things
I found was Reagan giving a speech in

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support of tort reform, and he
was speaking to Atra, this American Tort

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Reform Association trying to push through and
it's a real bad idea. When you

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hear tort reform is real bad.
It's basically saying, we want to take

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away your right to sue people when
they injure you. That's what it means.

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But in this speech, he said, Hey, there was this guy

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and he was making a phone call
in a phone booth when a drunk driver

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crashed into the phone booth and he
sued. Guess who he sued. He

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sued the phone company. Isn't that
outrageous? And everybody applauded and like,

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oh, yeah, we need tort
reform. That's crazy. What didn't Reagan,

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who was president at the time,
he said this, What didn't he

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tell you that the phone company had
had dozens of reports of cars hitting that

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phone both in that exact location,
that the phone booth had been damaged and

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not repaired, and the man could
not get out of the phone booth.

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Multiple witnesses and he testified that they
saw him seeing this drunk driver coming for

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the phone booth. He tried to
get out of the door and he couldn't.

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There were many many effects like that
that Reagan left out. This is

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what the Conservatives, Christians and government
do. They tell the truth and leave

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out all the relevant shit. So
they're saying, you don't need a permission

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slip to study, but yeah,
you need a permission slip to be taught.

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And it's all because it's about black
people and we don't like that.

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Sorry, that's my rand. I
just can't stand it when people lie so

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blatantly and the press does not call
him on their bullshit. What are your

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thoughts, Kelly, Yeah, I
you know, that kind of off topic,

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but that reminded me of a case
that's going on right now. I

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think it was in Tennessee where a
minister is being sued or being harassed by

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the city with zoning violations because he
let homeless people stay at his church.

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Right, and then when you started, well, when you look into the

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whole things that the church was in
the back of a literally in the back

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of a game arcade. It was
a back room in the game arcade.

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He was letting people use propane stoves. They had opened fires in the back.

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There was there was no escape route. If a fire started, the

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people would have been locked inside.
Right, so he went to but but

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the media puts it out as oh, minister has homeless people and now he's

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being harassed by the city. And
again, you know, we're missing all

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the details here that and I think
we're seeing some of that here definitely.

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Also, I thought, and the
first thing that hit me, and it

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was something we talked about in another
story earlier this week, is these overbroad

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They did this overbroad language in some
of these bills, and I could see

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where this school district might be a
little afraid about what they are teaching and

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may and the state Education Board could
be right telling the truth. We're not

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for seeing anybody to sign these permission
slips, but the school board is thinking,

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wow, if we don't sign these
permission slips, we might end up

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getting sued. Even though the state
board is telling us we don't have to

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do them, we better do it
anyway just to cover our butts. Right,

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We have no reporting that says that
the state board actually told the school

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that I want to be clear on
that. I I agree that that may

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be what's going on here. There's
no reporting I could find that said that

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that spokesperson that mouth that got up
and said this is a media like,

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what is it? What is it? What is it? What does our

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world come to when it's acceptable for
a press secretary to get in front and

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say this is a media spread lie, rather than putting up a chart that

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says, here's the actual rules.
We have contacted this person. They shouldn't

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do this. They have retracted it. That's not what they said. That's

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what an adult in the room would
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yeah, it was a misunderstanding,
here's the problem. Nope, they just

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said media spread lie. The president
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That's outrageous and well ear about you
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get offended by what. And I
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I said, like I wonder if
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what, if we don't like do
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to get offended. Somebody is going
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to do something to make this more
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we don't just like come out right
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your kids to learn about black history, this is your chance to tell us

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right now, and then they won't. But they had to do it in

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this backward sort of way to be
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you have to give permission because we
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no, you gave us permission to
teach this. We said, you gave

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a written consent for your children to
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that that attitude's even in the air, the fact that it even occurs to

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them to think, oh, we're
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That says everything that they even have
that thought well the band because because a

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lot of books that got banned were
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This I don't I'm not surprised that
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with it, but I'm not surprised
because they're basically like, as I was

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saying, like, you know,
somebody will make a stink, and maybe

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if we do this we can avoid
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the perspected up and here you're talking
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poignant point, right, And I
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I'm thinking, hey, let's avoid
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offensive. Right. Still, I
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made notes about this. I wasn't
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up, but since Kelly did,
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So from a legal perspective, if
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have not heard that it is not. We haven't heard that it is,

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it would be most likely held to
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Chief Justice Warren's opinion in Brown versus
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on time and time again. But
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opinion. Everybody should go read it. It's very very short, and it

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was a unanimous court for a reason. And the basic holding of Brown is

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separate but equal is wrong because the
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the children. And it's not because
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whites. It's because the whites don't
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when the law upholds that prejudice,
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your ability to be educated in school. And I would hold the same thing

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here. There's a reason the kids
in these schools would know, Oh,

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I need a permission slip to learn
about Black History Month? Where's my permission

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slip for White History Year? I
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And they're smart enough to pick up
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same inferiority complex that Warren wrote about
back in the sixties and why we don't

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give the government the power to do
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with you, Kelly. This is
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that's a good point because like we're
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a Jewish kid or a black kid, or a queer kid and whatever it

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is in school, do you get
a permission slip? Do you have to

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go to your parents and like,
hey, I don't I don't want to

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learn about, you know, the
Revolutionary War? You know, like I

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want to opt out of that.
Do I get to do that now?

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And like that's that's to have a
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this is racist everybody, by the
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but like I want to read this
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was in the article as so where
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to these areas are consistent with instruction. Doctor Steveh Gallen's a board member,

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and he also added, we entered
stand that at the school district, we

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have to follow law, but we
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the law is. What happens when
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Is that student excluded from this experience? Is that student is excluded from

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instruction like these are This is how
we get into these like you know,

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sort of debates and you know,
what does what's the parents want? And

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I am sorry, like our education
instructors administrators are already stressed. Friend,

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then and if a parent fails to
sign a permissions slip, do you have

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to track them down and be like
do you want your kid to learn about

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black history? Like it's it's it's
dumb, it's done a ministered and I

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don't like it. And let's not
let's not forget where it comes from.

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Let's not forget where this comes from. The history here is, let's be

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clear about the history. Obama gets
elected, white people freak out, we

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get MAGA as a racist reaction,
we get January sixth, which is a

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religiously inspired race riot at its core. This is what we're dealing with.

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And then we get the press,
the conservative express screaming about critical race theory,

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which is kind of evaporated out of
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months. But that's where this comes
from. This is a child of that

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entire process to say, and now
it's going to hit the streets in real

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ways where we're saying, Okay,
teaching you about black history is dangerous,

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so we need your parents to give
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you because our precious little white peak
kids might somehow feel guilty because this smells

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like critical race theory. That's where
this all comes from. And that's all

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sort of missed in this coverage because
it comes down to, well, do

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we need to consent form or not. The fact that the school even thought

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that that might be needed comes from
this entire conservative game plan to put racism

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back into the nation's oxygen, and
unfortunately they've succeeded in that