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What's going on? Clippers fans,
Welcome to season two, episode sixty three

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of Clips in Dip. I am
Chuck Mockler still here, Adam Oslin still

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here, William Updyke. We are
still here covering the Clippers for you.

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Can you believe it? I hope
you're thank you for still being here if

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you're listening or watching, uh podcast
audience through us Thick and Thing YouTube,

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Little Bandwagony. But that's okay,
we're gonna talk. I don't even think

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we have anything about the game against
the seventy six ers in here, because

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we're just gonna talk another state of
the Clippers talk kind of thing. We

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have some facts about Clippers ships to
share with everyone later to kind of lighten

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the mood. You guys here some
footage? Yeah, oh yeah, uh

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I actually well I uh I downloaded
it, then I transferred it over to

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Beta max, and then I lit
that bitch on fire. Okay, so

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yeah, I literally burned the footage
from digital to analog to scorch. Earth

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doesn't exist anymore. It's gone.
The Clippers have killed the High five,

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which which makes me genuinely upset.
Really funny, It's funny they killed it.

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But it's really sad the same.
I thought about it earlier today,

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and then I thought about what I
watched last night and yesterday, and I

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just didn't have it in me to
go through and decide between so many bad

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clips and possessions the fourth quarter.
Yeah first first, Yeah, go from

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being down eight to down sixteen in
a minute forty six. I there's obviously

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bigger issues than just breaking down individual
tape. Sure, for those of you

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who missed it, if you want
to watch the old high Fives, they're

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on our old or not very old
episodes over on YouTube dot comlash that Clippers

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podcast. I could show one,
just one quick one here, real quick,

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and it's really I don't know,
it's not make sure the sound is

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off. Okay, I'll make sure
the sound is off this time off.

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Yeah. So this this is a
tab called x SO look out. But

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uh no, here's here's some footage. You guys see what I say I'm

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getting. I just went full screen. This is off somebody else's TV recording.

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Here's Kawhi coming over to help out. What do you mean? It's

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on? When I when I'm largely
I'll look back on so. Uh oh,

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that was nice brought out by Paul
George. But here's a mire coffee,

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U Lady's defender get by him to
the point where Kawhi Leonard has to

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come over and help, and then
pointed to Eats the zoo Bots immediately afterwards

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to let him know it should have
been him blocking that shot. That is

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like, I'm right here, Yeah, I'm not. I'm not sure he

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was. To be honest, I
don't think he's he's getting to this one.

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In fact, somebody get like,
look at look at the hesitation there

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and maybe maybe but something he's not
anticipating. This could just be frustration boiling

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over and it's just where the Clippers
are at right now. So I it

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was worth sharing the Uh what was
it? The high one? The high

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one is high calling it right?
Yeah? The high one been Yeah,

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some of us have been called the
high one before. Uh? Will I

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got to go on and do the
double dip with Adam after the show last

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night? It was supposed to or
the game last night. It was supposed

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to be a triple dip, but
technical difficulties. Do you want to talk

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about your feelings on the game last
night? Will? You didn't get a

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public forum to shout at like I
got oh, I mean it sucks.

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This team sucks. I left during
the fourth how really? Uh? I

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think there was probably seven or eight
minutes left in the quarter, but you

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knew that's so over. It was
a over. How many times we have

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to watch them do the exact same
thing, like they were down they were

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down twenty and still not playing defense, Like you can't trade buckets at that

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point, fellas, you gotta get
some stuff. Isn't this the real issue

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going on? Though? Right now
you're down five against Philly, you head

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into the fourth quarter and within a
couple of minutes you're down twenty, and

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then last night you're down eight.
It's manageable easily for what we've seen from

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this team coming back with twelve minutes
left down eight, and instead a minute

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forty six later, they're down sixteen. They're calling a time out. Kawhi

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Leonard's back in the ball game,
and they're just not punching back. They're

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not fighting back, they're not bat
only a run with one of their own.

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This one was more disappointing because in
that sixers game, we did not

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see Kawhi Leonard in the fourth.
I think smartly TYLERU tried to adjust to

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try to right the ship in the
fourth and this one bringing Kawhi in earlier,

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and it just that's what made it
all the more pathetic. They couldn't

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make it five minutes without the game
getting so out of hand. To bring

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Kawhi back in in that Sixers game, it's crazy. It doesn't that everyone

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else forgets how to play basketball when
kaw is off, But like Will said,

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even with him last night, the
lead extended when he got in there

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at the night, it was not
inspired play. It was not inspired play.

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I don't blame Kawhi. I mean, obviously it's not on one guy,

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but man, that was it's just
not I don't know, it's it's

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not just the intangibles for why that
happened to start. I think both of

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those fourth quarters, on a lot
of these fourth quarters, going back to

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what happened against the Lakers, when
you're up by twenty one, there's been

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some bad lineups guys to start that
fourth quarter last night, having Russell Westbrook,

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PJ. Tucker and a Beatza Zubats
out there on the floor, there's

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an actual reason you get down that
much that quickly. We watched Russell Westbrook

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turned down a three to give it
up to PJ. Tucker, who doesn't

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normally want to take them. He
hoisted it, it ends up going over

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the backboard, and that was their
first possession of the fourth quarter. They

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have three non shooters out there,
and right didn't stops and Russ played well.

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They wasted an efficient Russ game,
which you gotta take advantage of.

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You gotta take advantage of the efficient
Russ offense games. Yeah, it's nice

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too for your team to do that, especially with how many people said Russ

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will change things for this team.
He plays well last night. Obviously,

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there are much bigger issues than just
it being about one guy. Sure for

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those people that thought it would be
that simple, get Russ back when they

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were three and five in his last
eight games anyways, and he was there

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for the twenty one point turn around
by the Lakers. He was a big

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part of how that happened. So
I don't know where this narrative came that

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they just need their heart and soul
back and that's going to fix everything.

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I'm glad he's back. He played
great last night. Yeah, they just

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have so many pressing issues right now. You can't put it on one guy

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to have to fix all that and
put all the pressure on Russ to figure

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out what's going on with this Clippers
team. PJ. Tucker was also getting

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blown by by TJ McConnell some TJ
on PJ crime, which has to be

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the first time that's ever happened.
But that what they were trying any any

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team when PJ. Tucker's out there
is of looks like a goddamn All Star

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in this. He looked so good. I hated it. I was so

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up. The defense was. Yes
against McCall he's a nice player. He

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would be a course as your bench
guard, but he should not be lighting

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you up for like ten plus at
the room like like but points directly at

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the rim, like just going straight
at you. He's not a good shooter.

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Like, why are you getting blown
by like this? You know?

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That was that's what he's trying to
do. So Paul George doesn't think the

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Clippers have an identity. James Harden
doesn't think the Clippers have an identity.

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Tyler said the team is soft.
This said their identity that they Yes,

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that's probably the best part of last
night, honestly. So the pregame presser

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was one of the more desponded.
Despondent, but he was still just testy,

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but not at the press kind of
way, you know, vibe At

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the end of his rope with the
situation, it felt like talking to a

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teacher who was like, you know, when you go and visit a teacher,

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maybe you know, you graduate high
school, You're like, oh,

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I'm gonna go say what's up to
so and so. I haven't seen them?

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And you talked to him and you're
like, oh, wow, you

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are so tired of this, Like
yeah, you get that on filtered kind

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of you are exhausted from trying to
make this work, is what it felt

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like. Pregame and then postgame it
was just like, I mean, we

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got absurd quotes to get this late
in the season for a team that's supposed

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to win a championship. Did are
correct quotes? Is the other part.

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No one was talking super crazy.
They the players don't think they haven't did

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anything. Coach just says they're soft. That's kind of what's happening right now.

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I thought he was gonna say that. I think he was on the

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verge of saying that back when they
had their most recent loss to the Minnesota

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timber Wolves the last time around,
because he started to get frustrated, saying

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that's what bothers me the most.
After they went on that run and the

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Clippers did nothing about it in the
second half, he just felt like they

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were getting punked out there. They
weren't mentally tough enough, therefore soft And

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that is what we're seeing right now, a team whose will is easily broken

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with one run in the fourth quarter
where they don't respond. It's a lay

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It's a layup line of them getting
stepped over like ty Ala Tyleru, except

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for instead of being stepped over by
one of the greatest guards of their time,

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it's by fucking TJ McConnell and literally
every other team. So it's great.

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I saw one of the most famous
Clippers fans, uh, Paul Sheer

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was on Twitter kind of asking like
if this identity thing is a cop out,

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and so it is. I saw
it, but he thinks he's I

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think he said, it's like,
is it a cop out to get out

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of like interview questions, And I
was like, no, but it is

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a cop out on their part,
Like it's them being like, I guess

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we just don't know what our identity
is it's like, but you had a

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piece of it before. It's then
you played hard before. On defense,

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they were a good defense, right, Adam. They had a very good

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rating out. Well, they can't
we think we're good enough and this is

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below us. You can't say that
because but that's how they're playing. They

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were a top five defense this season, which was their goal coming into it.

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For literally about two and a half
weeks. Okay, then when their

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offense really kicked in with James Harden, it slipped. It went to about

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average. But you can live with
that when you're in god mode on the

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offensive end, right, You're okay
with that. And some of it was

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to be expected because when you know
you can score every time down, which

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is basically what they were doing when
they had that one twenty two offensive rating

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and they were the best team in
the league for two months. Yeah,

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there's probably going to be slippers on
the defensive end. What has happened since

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the Grammy road trip is more than
alarming. Last twenty two games, they

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are twenty ninth defensively. There is
one team that they have been better than,

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and that is the Utah Jazz,
a team that is currently tanking that's

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unacceptable for a team that even coach
lou reiterated it last night. Here's our

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identity, at least what they were
trying to be. A tough mind defensive

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team, an explosive offensive team,
a tough minded defensive team. They may

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have the personnel, but they don't
have the mindset. You did you see

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the stat Joey Linn put out today
that the Clippers defensive rating with James Harden.

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Yeah, that's crazy, James obviously
well context of that, Yeah,

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when you're twenty ninth defensively, everyone's
Terrence Man is one twenty one. He's

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right next to James hard Now Mere
Coffee's right next to him. If he'sa

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Zubats is right next to him.
So I think it's a little bit I

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don't know. I love Joey,
but it seems to be pointing a little

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bit too much at James Harden there
when it's like, okay, but everybody

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has a really bad defensive rating for
the most part, at least some guys

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that are known for giving effort on
that end, specifically like Karen's Man.

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If he has almost the same defensive
rating as James Harden, how much can

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we really put into that. Yeah, that's about the known defensiveness of those

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guys, because like norm having a
bad defensive rating, you're like, yeah,

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okay, he's right there too.
But but Ivisa zubats A, Mere

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Coffee and Terrence Man are all right
there. So what are we talking about?

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I look, Harden's defense been worse, definitely, but everybody is completely

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disconnected when you are twenty nine defensively
for twenty two games, that is twenty

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five percent of the season. Guys, Yeah, how do they get out

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of this? Is it possible?
Are we out of because it's it's really

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just them walking in. I think
it's my thing. My thing is like

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if you can flip this, If
you think you can flip the switch,

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why hasn't it been flipped? Like, I just don't understand, Like,

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if it's that simple, Yeah,
I can understand looking black luster through three

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quarters of the game, turning it
on, pulling it out, That's just

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not what I'm seeing. I just
don't, like, I don't know how

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there's any belief that suddenly they're gonna
be good again. The switch right now

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is in a compound about a mile
away, like in Jurassic Park where Ellie

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had to go past some raptors to
get there to turn the power back on,

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Like first they have to get to
the switch, and that's gonna take

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some time. There's a treacherous road
to get there. There's raptors. You

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got Mold Doon with you saying clever
girl, but yeah, yeah, it's

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it's not that simple. Right now. There are steps along the way and

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they're running out of runway, which
is a phrase we've said a lot over

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the two one to three era.
The runway is getting shorter. I believe

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it's the usual phrase we use,
and it's about as short as it can

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get. They need a chopper,
you need a Yeah. Yeah, it's

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not very good before because we are
going to talk about playoffs and play in

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uh in a second, is there
anything else? I don't think it's I

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don't think it's crazy though to your
question, your initial question there, can

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they turn this round? Do they
have enough time to turn around? I'm

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gonna make this point. As fast
as things turn for the worst, just

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like when they were down losing their
first five games with James Harden, things

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turn quickly the other way. It's
not impossible for that same thing to happen

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again. We've already seen it for
the worst, then for the best,

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then for the worst again, do
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And the other thing is is like
in terms of I mean, there

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is still around ten percent of the
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some runway, it's not completely gone. And then the other thing, like,

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even as cynical and down as I've
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another Kawhi Leonard historic playoff performance away
from this team being clawed to a potential

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Western Conference final. Like, it's
not you know, it's not insane.

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I just think that that's the thing
that's so infuriating is that this team has

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this in their DNA, and I
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way, I just feel like it's
a little bit foolish to just assume on

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that. And I think that you
know, not having home court at any

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point, that's gonna wear down on
you. All this stuff is gonna wear

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down on you. I just don't
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likewise like I've talked about, like
with micro cosms of how the Clippers run

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their offense or how they refuse to
play defense, like they continuously put themselves

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in harder and harder positions, and
yes they're good. Yes, there are

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four Hall of Famers on this team. Of course, like of course there

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is always the potential for them to
do something really crazy. I just don't

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know why. It's already really hard
to win an NBA championship and you're gonna

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go ahead and like give yourself the
absolute hardest way to go about to go

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about it, Like, it just
doesn't make sense. Are they looking at

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it the same way we have?
Kawhi, Just get us to the playoffs

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healthy, get out of the play
in and not be in that position and

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will be fine because there's a faction
of fans that believe that. Still,

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I saw that. I saw some
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Lou is playing these bad lineups to
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deep. And if you look at
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this game, I don't think he's
planning any of this. Man, I

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actually want to be playing bad before
the playoffs? The fuck are we doing?

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Chest Master three thousand. Yeah,
if the team is this concerned,

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you might want to have a little
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I'm just saying, if there's a
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be friction between at least a mixed
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at this point, I think that's
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saying we don't have an identity,
if the coach is saying we do,

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but it's soft. I don't know
how you can spin that into a positive

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right now, Like this is right
where we need to be. We're right

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in the slot and now we're falling
down the standings. You know what we're

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gonna come out of that seven eight
matchup. It's going to be what what

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are we talking about here? Like
you are dangerously close to falling into the

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playoff playing. That is a realistic
possibility right now, very realistic. Should

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it be called the playoff instead of
the play in? Because I think I

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like play on better? I don't
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right, We're gonna talk the playoffs
and the play on after this break because

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there is some interesting just strength of
schedule stuff to look at. Wish we

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didn't have to look at this to
feel better about not being in the play

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in, but here we are.
So if you're listening to this, thank

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ads in three two one, Hey, what's going on? Welcome back in

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clips and dip. Look, we've
lamented a little bit about where the Clippers

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are at, but we're not quite
done yet. We still have to talk

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about the playoffs and seating and the
potentiality for the Clippers to be in the

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play in, which I still,
again is someone who has been very cynical

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on this team. I don't think
they're going to fall that well. I

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do not suspect they're going to fall
to six. I do not suspect that

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they have the capacity to fall even
lower than that. But Charles, you

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wrote up this outline talking about what's
going on with this, so as I

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agree, I don't think they're going
to fall to the play in. As

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of this recording, the Clippers are
fifth, but the Pels are down eighteen

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to the thunder right now, so
we're going to be jostling between four and

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five for the next ten games.
Pretty much. The Pels of course have

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the tiebreaker over the Clippers. The
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and MAVs who are six and seven, and they're two and a half games

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up on the Sons who are eight. All of these teams, the Kings

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and are sorry. Sons and Kings
have the hardest remaining schedule based on opponent

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win percentage, and the Pels have
the third hardest schedule based on opponent.

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So the Clippers do get a break
in who these other teams play in that

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regard, they're playing good teams down
the stretch. The Clippers do have to

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play the Suns twice to finish this
one out. But I don't think we

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actually get I don't think we fall
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think that would be what about six
six chance would you put on that?

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I would put that at nine and
a half percent. I think it's

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honestly a lot higher. Really only
because so the Clippers are one to nine

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against teams with a winning record coming
out of the All Star Break. We're

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looking at schedules remaining and who has
the tougher schedule right now, any team

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that's above five hundred is being the
Clippers. I can't see the same for

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the Phoenix Suns or the Sacramento Kings
or the Dallas Mavericks. I feel like

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they're gonna go five hundred at least
against those teams at worst. And the

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Clippers. I mean, being in
a game in Philly against a team that

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just beats you and lits you up
in the fourth quarter, and it's gonna

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be very confident, and it's gonna
have the crowd behind them, and it's

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gonna be on top of James Harden
and trying to wreck the Clippers season even

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more. That is a really tough
game to start off this road trip.

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And then what Orlando on Friday.
Yeah, Orlando on Friday. So one,

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I think is what most people would
sign up for there, they're not

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I would love that. So you
think it's six, you think it's more

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likely to be six or five.
I don't think it's more likely. I

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think it's a lot higher than nine
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twelve twenty. I think it's like
thirty. Okay, I really do,

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because Okay, they have one more
game against Sacramento. They're two and one

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against the Kings so far, So
they win that game, they'd have the

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tiebreaker. They're two and oh against
Phoenix so far with two games remating.

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That's all in their favor. But
just going off how they're playing, the

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vibes of the team, and given
that those teams are above five hundred and

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the Clippers aren't beating them unfortunately,
Yeah, I think there's probably like a

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thirty percent chance, like if this
free fall continues here, which it could,

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with the next two opponents being on
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I don't know what's stopping it.
That Clippers sounds as a back to back

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away and then home, we play
in Phoenix, and then the next day

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all the teams travel, the teams
travel together and then play in LA.

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That's insanity anyway. Sorry, I
agree they get reprieve again the Hornets on

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Sunday, but hell, who knows
how that's going to go. The Kings

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do have the Dallas Mavericks their next
two games at home, another team they're

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fighting with to try to stay out
of the play tournament. Those will be

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highly competitive games, but the Clippers
aren't competing. They're not pushing back.

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It's just if it's more than just
talent or tired legs, and there's something

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going on in the locker room,
which I think a lot of people are

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speculating about right now, because how
do you go from one twenty six or

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thirty one games to now being ten
and twelve and losers of what six of

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their last nine five at home?
Too. They have the worst record in

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their last ten games outside the Golden
State Warriors. Of the top ten teams

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in the Western Conference, the Warriors
are tied with them. They're both four

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and six. Everybody is playing better
than them. Well, the teams they're

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competing against, you're not. You're
right, Well, what do you think?

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What's your playoff scenario? What's the
Updike playoff scenario? I don't know,

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I honestly, you know, I
don't think either matchup is that great

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for the Clippers. Again, I
think that they can get through it.

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But yeah, like I said,
I think there's like a twenty five to

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thirty three percent chance that they could
end up at six. Yeah, I

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don't know. I don't know.
So what Tyler Louis said yesterday like makes

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me think that maybe Paul George is
a malcontent in the locker room. I

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don't know, like what end that's
affecting everybody else, but it doesn't It

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doesn't bode well, and I don't
know either one of these matchups from what

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we've seen in the regular season,
is not going to be great for the

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Clippers. It's going to be really, really hard. Like I said,

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the only thing that gives you hope
is the talent that they have relative to

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both of these other teams. Yeah, on paper, Hey love it?

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Love it on paper? Right now? Do you on paper? You love

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you love Pells Clippers on paper?
No? I love what the Clippers at

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on paper. I don't know if
I love that match. I love the

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Clippers at on paper, Clippers pelsh
that if the Clippers don't have home court

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evats even if they do, that's
going to be a blood bath. If

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they fall six, it's Timberwolves,
right. I'll tell you what. If

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they end up getting home court evaged, which means the four seed, right

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now, I'd be feeling a lot
more optimistic about this squad because that means

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they're winning games and playing much better
basketball all of a sudden, that's what

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it's going to take to get the
four spot. Yeah, that's a good

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call. It could happen. It
could turn very quickly back in their paper,

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just like it turned against them.
It cool and like they're they're I

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mean, obviously they're much closer to
four than they are six. Right,

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Yeah, it takes. It just
does feel like a free fall right now

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because of how they're playing. I
think there's been a lot of talk on

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Clippers Twitter about Kawhi and pg's field
goal attempts and things like that, and

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I've you know, we said it
on the show, like when the playoffs

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happened, their field goal attempts go
up. That's how it goes. I'd

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be okay with starting that pre playoffs. I'm fine with them shooting more before

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we have to do it in the
playoffs. Right, let's get him into

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a rhythm. Let's ride the best
players on the team's offensive skill Who says

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no, I'm all for that.
I'd like James Harden to join them in

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that excursion of let's do it taking
more shots. That journey to attempt more

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shots is he just attempted seven yesterday
and for the first time since twenty twelve

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in a game where he played at
least thirty minutes. So the first time

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since he hasn't been an Okse thunder. He only took one three pointer.

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That's the first time in over a
decade that he played that many minutes and

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only attempted one to three point shot. James Harden and coach Leo was asked

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postgame about his shoulder injury and if
there's something going on there by La Murray

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wondering if Okay does he not want
to hoist from the outside. Is that

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why he's not shooting as much?
Is he just not healthy? And that

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could be playing a big factor on
all this As much as look I said

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it a few weeks ago, but
if we're going to credit James Harden and

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we did for the big turnaround and
the big run they went on, I

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think it's also fair to look back
his way now that the Clippers are reeling

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and saying what's going on. I'm
not saying it's all on him or anything

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like that, but it may be
a significant reason that if the system is

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broken right now, the same one
that had them running at a high power

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to high level offense for so long
for two months, for almost half the

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season, forty percent of the season, they look that good. We're not

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talking about a couple of weeks where
the Clippers showed us a flash of greatness.

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We're talking about thirty one games.
I think it's worth looking into what's

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going on with James Harden and saying, Okay, forget the defensive stuff.

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It's been there when they were good. Those lapses in that video that Joey

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posted, that stuff was still happening. The difference is when he uses up

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your offense that much, where you're
in god mode, it easily makes up

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for those defensive mistakes. Also,
when other guys are playing better defensively and

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are more connected and are giving a
better effort in communicating out there, that

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also easily makes up for Harden's deficiencies. It's been like that most of his

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career. So I don't know,
is James Harden The first thing we should

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be looking at right now with this
Clippers late season swoon is that I don't

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want to point all the fingers his
way. I'm saying is that the biggest

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slice of the pie of what has
changed, he's not playing as well.

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Therefore the Clippers aren't playing as well. We wondered if they were too dependent

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on him in a recent episode.
I think there's definitely something to it.

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If you look at right, I
mean, you can't. Yeah, you

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can't be the driver of the team
when they're good and then be in the

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backseat when they're bad. With how
we talk about him, he's averaging his

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fewest field goal attempts since twenty eleven. He's averaging eleven and a half field

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goal attempts per game, which I
understand there's Kawhi and Paul George out there,

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but that's way too low. That's
that's too low. I think the

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health thing is a great point.
I think these guys part of what we

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heard in the pre in the preseason, which they have adhered to, is

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that they're going to take the regular
season more seriously when it came to you

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know, if the guys are healthy, they're going to play. Now,

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it seems like we're kind of in
the scenario where guys are kind of healthy

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and so therefore they're kind of playing
when they're on the court, right,

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Like, I think there might be
something to the he's not healthy thing.

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Fully healthy, he's not healthy.
They're an older team. There's tired legs

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going on. He's not getting downhill
enough, he's not getting two on the

405
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,559
ball. As much as he was
before. I don't know what the numbers

406
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:18,759
say about that. I know there
was somewhat of a decline I heard recently

407
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:23,160
when it came to drives per game
from Harden over the last month. That

408
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:30,599
tracks. That matches the eye test
certainly, and just the fact that coach

409
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,319
Loeuvin said it last night. You
know, Harden's a guy who always wants

410
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:37,519
to play right. You gotta save
guys like that from themselves, though you

411
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:41,240
can't win them wear down over the
season when they're thirty four years of age.

412
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,480
When you know he's like this,
I they gave him those two days

413
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:51,160
off or those two games off recently
where Bones shined and won against the Chicago

414
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,079
Bulls. The other one was against
the Pelicans. And by the way that

415
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:59,559
Pelicans game, I was thinking earlier, how many games recently have the Clippers

416
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:06,079
given a really good effort for the
most part one of them, at least

417
00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:10,319
the majority of it what you'd expect
from a team that has championship expectations.

418
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:14,599
I mean, Jerry Rice took plays
off. Everybody does at times. It

419
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,359
happens. But the Pelicans game on
the road, for the most part,

420
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:24,119
they were locked in without James.
The other game was the game without two

421
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:29,400
Pine three against the Milwaukee Bucks that
they almost won against Giannis and Dame right,

422
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:35,799
they played way harder and together like
a cohesive unit and had more energy.

423
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,559
And you know, people keep saying, you know, the depth,

424
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:43,519
the depth just isn't there, like
like we thought. It's like, okay,

425
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:46,279
there's something to that. But also
look at that game when they had

426
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:52,720
to rely on their depth, they
played really well. It's just weird how

427
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:55,640
spottying up and down it's been.
Some people want to point to the Lakers

428
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,599
game and saying it all stems from
giving up that twenty one point leading the

429
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:01,920
fourth and they haven't been the same
since. But then you go, okay,

430
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,599
a couple of games later, they
came back on Minnesota down sixteen and

431
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,720
got their only win against them on
the road, and then they gave up

432
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:13,319
a fifteen point lead to Milwaukee,
and then they came back down twenty against

433
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:15,920
Houston. Hey, so if you're
talking about identity and who are they,

434
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:21,200
yeah, that is a moving target
of who are you? Because I don't

435
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:29,720
know which Clippers team is showing up
every night. It's strange. Well,

436
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:35,000
how are you feeling? Not great? Am? I making it worse.

437
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:44,160
Yeah, I think I don't know. I don't know the stars thing.

438
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,400
I mean, the team goes as
far as they take us, and if

439
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:51,400
they're tired right now, that's how
far we're gonna get, right, Like,

440
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,799
but then why I just still I
still don't understand. Why do why?

441
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:59,799
Right? Why do just take the
games off? Man? Like I

442
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:06,359
I don't know what else to say? Show out swinging? Should we reset

443
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:13,280
our expectations to now saying forget getting
the four seed it's likely not going to

444
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,039
happen anyways, don't go all out
for that. Just be healthy and fresh

445
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:22,880
with the top six seed by the
time the first round starts and hopefully they

446
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,840
find some magic and make a run. I mean we have to I don't

447
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,679
think we like we if. I
think there's two options, right, Like,

448
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,480
we have to do that because that's
what it feels like. It's going

449
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:36,159
to be, like we hope everyone's
healthy and we're not in the plan.

450
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:38,719
Kawi said that, what like a
month ago, he was like, we

451
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,480
want to be top six. Everyone
was like, wait a minute, what,

452
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:46,119
Yeah, we said we definitely want
to be top six. Obviously we

453
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,360
don't want to be in the plan. Basically, is what he was saying.

454
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,760
I felt like that was a little
bit taken out of context, Like

455
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:57,519
his point was just like it's about
playing well, not necessarily about well the

456
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:01,679
chips will fall with the man little
bit about seeds, well, no,

457
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:07,239
but he just basically seating would take
care of itself if we're playing well.

458
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,039
So I mean, I guess we
have to so like, yeah, I

459
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:17,000
hope they're fully healthy and not in
the plan. I feel horrible that that's

460
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:22,800
where we're at. I'm disappointed that
we have to do that. Not because

461
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,760
everyone else is just playing on some
ungodly level and the Clippers are playing well

462
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,960
but just can't keep up. We
have to do that because they've just shit

463
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,280
the bed so many times that it's
like, well, I guess, can

464
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,519
they be to fully healthy Minnesota in
the first round? No? Right now,

465
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,400
as of March twenty six, six
twelve pm, char I would not

466
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:50,119
No, no, no, We're
not be a fully healthy Minnesota in the

467
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,440
first round. I think they can, but it's unfounded, right, I

468
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,119
guess basically just going off of Will
saying, you know they have Kawhi,

469
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:00,440
and if you have Kawhi, and
if you look at what happened in Game

470
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,519
one against Phoenix last season, where
it did look like they flipped the switch

471
00:36:05,639 --> 00:36:09,519
because they were damn sure inconsistent leading
into that first round series. Now they

472
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:15,559
look even probably more inconsistent, or
at least it almost feels more regular season

473
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,840
he was, but he's still been
pretty insane for the most part. He

474
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,599
hasn't had huge dips in play.
Paul George has been way better the last

475
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:30,840
three weeks. That's what also makes
this so perplexing. Two on three had

476
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:37,480
what extreme efficiency, and both of
them had twenty six points last night and

477
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:44,039
they can't beat a Pacers team that
doesn't play against you still got to get

478
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:47,039
to the hops, Yeah, and
they only ended up scoring with the Clippers

479
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:51,599
have one sixteen or one thirteen,
one sixteen. That's not a lot in

480
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:57,679
today's league. I think average.
I think average is like one twelve at

481
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,760
least. I mean, they scored
eighty nine points to beat the Wolves,

482
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:06,719
Like that's not gonna happen again.
I don't think in the playoffs. Oh

483
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,360
yeah, I said at the time
that you can't replicate that type of victory.

484
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,639
But I still would take my chances
if they're fresh, if they're healthy,

485
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:21,079
sure against pretty much anyone but Denver. I don't like the chances,

486
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:23,920
but yeah, I'll take them.
Yeah, it's gonna be a war.

487
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:29,599
I mean, we'll see other option. Real it will take the chances.

488
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,639
As they were sending our entry into
the playoffs, just saying, just move

489
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:38,519
the standings up, Adam, just
Adam Silver, just remove row, move

490
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:45,199
up. I was looking at some
of the numbers earlier today and just how

491
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,400
far the drop off has been for
this Clippers team offensively, and specifically the

492
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,199
starting group. The starting lineup from
December to January one hundred and eighty four

493
00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:00,480
total minutes, the starting lineup at
an offensive rating of one twenty eight,

494
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:02,519
a defensive rating of one to sixteen, which isn't great, but your offensive

495
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:07,280
rating is amazing, so they're plus
twelve basically net rating. They were shooting

496
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,800
fifty four percent from the field and
forty six percent from three, and we're

497
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,880
a plus forty one and one hundred
and eighty four minutes. Since the Grammy

498
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,679
road trip, they're shooting just forty
five percent from the field, so almost

499
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:23,559
a ten percent drop there in field
goal percentage and just over a ten percent

500
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:28,599
drop in three point percentage from forty
six point seven to thirty six point five

501
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,840
and they're just a plus one in
their last one hundred and ninety two minutes

502
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:35,800
post Grammy road trip, the same
starting lineup. How could it be that

503
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,320
drastic? What's going on there?
I know you could say some regression to

504
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:45,320
the mean, but now you're looking
at the team that for fifty games this

505
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:51,280
season led the league in three point
shooting, and now over their last twenty

506
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:57,840
two games are about they're shooting thirty
four percent on wide open three pointers.

507
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:05,599
That seems extreme fluky to go from
number one for fifty games overall shooting from

508
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:07,880
three and now they can't even hit
wide open three. So the point they're

509
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,760
the worst shooting team when a defender
is six plus feet away in the league

510
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:19,840
over the last twenty two games.
What will? We were talking about Russo

511
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:22,079
pregame yesterday and he was like,
maybe they just start making their open threes

512
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:25,920
and everything turns around. Yeah,
I mean that that is the flip side

513
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,760
of this, right, Like the
team just looks entirely different if they're not

514
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:34,199
the twenty eight to three point shooting
team, because it you know, it

515
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,039
has the ripple effect of like obviously
making the baskets, but you know,

516
00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:43,360
you're not, you can get more
set on defense. You know, you

517
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,079
don't have to be rushing around as
much. There's like a lot of things

518
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:51,039
that for an older kind if you're
hard and Paul George, yeah, they're

519
00:39:51,159 --> 00:39:54,559
for like an older kind of slower
team. That makes sense that they're like,

520
00:39:54,639 --> 00:40:00,159
you know, tangible effects outside of
obviously just making more baskets. It's

521
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,199
only it were that simple. The
getting set on defensing is huge because Ty

522
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,280
talked about it pregame, which was
teams are just attacking the Clippers before they're

523
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,679
set and defense because they're older.
And then we watch the Pacers do that

524
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:15,159
ten like an hour after he's rousing
success, No, incredible success. So

525
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:20,719
I totally I love the point of
making those threes. Lets them actually get

526
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,719
back on defense and set. Will
you use this saying or phrase? Recently,

527
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,119
they chum the water with how much
bad footage they put out there,

528
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,280
with how many weaknesses they've been showing
off over the last three weeks. And

529
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,039
I think when you do that and
teams so easily can key on key in

530
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:43,199
on you with their game plan every
night, like to prove that that's no

531
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:49,480
longer a weakness, it takes so
much more teams will keep spamming and attacking

532
00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:55,679
that weakness until you know one win
isn't gonna change it. Like even if

533
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,280
they had won last night, I
mean, obviously, I think we'd all

534
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,840
feel a lot different. You know, beating the near beeding an Eastern Conference

535
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,280
near playing team, I mean,
that'd be huge for the Clippers. But

536
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,159
yeah, I agree, Like I
mean, the game plan has been set

537
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,039
for this team essentially all season long, and they've done They've been able,

538
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:22,280
they have not been able to rectify
it in any meaningful way against an opponent.

539
00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:27,199
And that's why I'm saying teams like
the Timberwolves, teams like the Pelicans

540
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,400
that can play with pace and a
lot of physicality, uh, and a

541
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,239
lot of the stuff that have been
weaknesses for this team. Like look,

542
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,480
yes, on one side of the
coin, like we are in insane Kawhi

543
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:45,199
Leonard playoffs or even getting one of
Paul George or or Harden to pop a

544
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,760
little bit in in any given game
from getting through a playoff series. But

545
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,159
at the same time, like you
just you look at the weaknesses and what

546
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,719
those other teams present, and I
gotta tell you, like the outlook doesn't

547
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,559
it doesn't logically look that great?
Will you said something or actually it was

548
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:06,840
Chuck. You said this last night
on Clips and Dip or Clips and double

549
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,599
Dip on Clipper's top posts. Don't
confuse those intellectual properties. Please come on,

550
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,239
lawyers are crazy. My bad,
my bad, little drown them in

551
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:22,559
paperwork, you said. And you
put into word something I was feeling early

552
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:23,960
on in that game. You said, even when they were playing well,

553
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:30,559
it didn't feel real. It didn't
feel sustainable. Basically like, even if

554
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:34,360
one thing's going well for this team
right now, something else is it.

555
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,360
And I found that pretty interesting,
like they can't get it all. Everybody

556
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,000
point in the right direction. It's
crazy, it's and we hope over these

557
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:46,000
last eleven games that they can get
it started pointed in the right direction,

558
00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:51,800
because there were parts of the team
that looked good last night, and then

559
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:58,599
the just the defense is just like
it's so lost right now. I also,

560
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:04,800
the Pace played so physically against the
Clippers on defense. I'm not sure

561
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,599
if they usually play like that.
Their defensive rating is what like twenty they're

562
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:12,000
like bottom five almost on the season, sixth or something like. They're not

563
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:15,280
a very good defense. But they
had no fear of being physical with the

564
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,800
Clippers, you know what I mean, Like, this was a team that

565
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,320
clearly read the report, Like,
yeah, when they stopped the Clippers paint

566
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,199
attack, because the Clippers that nearly
doubled the Pacers up in points of the

567
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:29,039
paint, which I mean partially was
because the Pacers were shooting the lights out.

568
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:31,679
They shot as a team like sixty
plus percent from three, which again

569
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,719
it's not anomaly if it constantly happens
to the Clippers. But once they stopped

570
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,119
that paint attack, the Clippers,
I mean, they were completely a neemic

571
00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:45,280
on offense and didn't stop anything on
the other end. Coach Lou said something

572
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:52,360
interesting post game that didn't make sense
to me because the other weird thing about

573
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,159
that game last night you mentioned the
hot shooting from the Indiana Pacers. But

574
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,079
to your point, if it keeps
happening to the Clippers over and over again,

575
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:01,000
maybe it's something they're doing wrong on
the perimeter defensively and making it too

576
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:05,440
easy. And they let Tyre's Halliburton, who had only been shooting twenty two

577
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,519
percent from three over his last games. Yeah, he basically was allowed to

578
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:13,760
walk into a three and then got
hot. So it's like if the game

579
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,840
plan is, oh, this guy
isn't shooting well from distance, we're going

580
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:21,920
to play off of him. Well, you give him a couple looks to

581
00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:25,199
a guy who typically is a good
three point shooter, then he feels confident.

582
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:30,719
Then they do start working. So
it's almost like you gotta rip that

583
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,159
up. I don't. I don't
think you know, you're just you're laying

584
00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:37,320
the numbers. But it just totally
depends on the context. Like I mean,

585
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:42,840
if it was Daniel Tice taking like
if he was the opposing player for

586
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,119
the Pacers taking the threes, he
hits three or four of them, Yeah,

587
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:50,440
okay, like that's an anomaly that
sucks. But a guard like who

588
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,199
does score and is the you know, like the the engine of the offense,

589
00:44:57,159 --> 00:45:00,719
maybe don't let them get into a
rhythm scoring wise. I just don't

590
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,360
lie harder. Yeah, it just
doesn't I don't know, subvert. It

591
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,480
just feels fairly basic, if I'm
being totally honest. But the thing Coach

592
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:14,000
lou said postgame, because the Clippers
only got up twenty threes, that was

593
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:17,760
the lowest amount they had taken in
a game so far this season, and

594
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,079
they only hit six of them,
so Haliburton hit his may threes, as

595
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:30,000
the Clippers did, but he said
the reason they only attempted twenty was because

596
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:35,159
obviously they weren't getting into the paint
enough to kick it out, spray it

597
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,119
out. But the Clippers had sixty
four points in the paint, right,

598
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:44,159
it's as close to a season high. So I didn't I didn't make it

599
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:46,440
didn't make sense to me. And
now when they stopped, like the paint

600
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,119
penetration stopped in that second, in
that second half, well, it looked

601
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,280
markedly different. Maybe I thought they
had thirty I thought it was dead even

602
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,559
I thought they had thirty two points
in the paint in the first half and

603
00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,679
thirty two points in the paint in
the second half or something like that.

604
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:02,800
Oh, now, maybe some of
it came late once the game got out

605
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,079
of hand, to your point,
Will, But in speaking to the opponents

606
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,679
and how well they're shooting against the
Clippers, and oh what a shock that

607
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,079
the team, the only team that
is getting lit up more from three is

608
00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:20,400
the only team that has been worse
defensively than the Clippers over the last twenty

609
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,119
two games, the Utah Jazz.
They're giving up almost forty three per two

610
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:30,079
opponents from three, the Clippers are
second worst since the Garmy road trip teams

611
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:37,000
are shooting forty percent from three against
them. So you can make that argument,

612
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:40,559
going back to what Justin Russo said, you stop threes and you start

613
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:45,039
making threes, things could flip quickly, Like if if things were to turn

614
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:50,280
fast, I'm guessing that's how it
would happen. Yeah, the three start

615
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,599
falling and they and not and they
stopped falling for the opposition. Yeah,

616
00:46:54,039 --> 00:47:00,159
and the three start falling also because
we get lineups that have more than two

617
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:04,360
shooters. Right again, to your
point, pull a ball on that,

618
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,480
like the we need to see if
we're going to see PJ. Tucker in

619
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:14,599
the playoffs. I'm I have made
my piece with that. Honestly, where

620
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:16,840
are you guys out with that?
Because that is still I'm getting all these

621
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,679
I'm getting in a day with tweets
saying they're seven and thirteen when PJ.

622
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,280
Tucker plays this season? Guys,
what are we doing? I mean,

623
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,920
yeah, I don't know, there's
just other problems. He's not the biggest

624
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:34,000
problem. There's so yeah, and
and I mean like it just depends on

625
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,639
how you can hide him, Like
what what lineups you can put around in

626
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:42,400
and if we can get anything else
out of Tyson Plumbley who. You know,

627
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,559
this wasn't the matchup for them.
I think that. I think that

628
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:50,960
that makes sense. But they have
been sort of abysmal of late, so

629
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,840
you know, if that's the option, I mean, it's not great.

630
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:58,280
But like I said, you know, this team isn't really predicated on death.

631
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,280
That's that's not really how they are
gonna work out. If this team

632
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,760
is going to have a deep playoff
runna be eight guys, Max put In

633
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,280
and maybe PJ. Tucker is one
of them on some nights. But I'm

634
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,679
telling you, like, if the
eighth guy is the guy tanking your playoff

635
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,360
run, like I think, there's
probably some bigger issues. You gotta put

636
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:21,119
PJ in a position to succeed for
what he does on this team. I'm

637
00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:23,239
not saying make the marquee obviously,
because he will refuse to do that,

638
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:29,119
but put at the five. Just
playim at the five with four with at

639
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,480
least three other shooters on the grand
on the floor. You go, Norm

640
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:40,400
James, Norm PG Tucker, you
know some Kawhi Like that's what it is.

641
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:46,960
It's PJ at the five with like
everyone with Kawhi because he genuinely plays

642
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:52,719
not full first and full third shift. And then yeah, anyone other than

643
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,840
Russ, you're gonna have Russ up
there on the floor at some point,

644
00:48:55,239 --> 00:49:00,880
and then ideally you wouldn't. But
yeah, they did try him last night

645
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,800
at the small Ball five a couple
times, and coach who talked about it

646
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,079
postgame ins said it wasn't that bad. Uh, And it wasn't. I

647
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:10,559
guess. Did you also hear the
quote about how he had to wait to

648
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:14,960
do that until Russ came back.
Yes, So it's like, so you're

649
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,079
gonna play PJ at the five with
Russ out there together, that they're tied

650
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:21,360
to each other in this role,
then it seems like, which I still

651
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:28,760
think can work again three other shooters. It's at least, yeah, it's

652
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,920
viable. But then it was like
it would have to be like Norma and

653
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:38,079
Russ and PJ are playing the four
five offensively effectively, or it's two fives

654
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:45,840
like three threes. Yeah, it
was still a negative from the different lineups

655
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,519
I'm seeing here from last night with
him and he has the small Ball five,

656
00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:54,119
But it wasn't. It wasn't what
happens to start the fourth quarter either,

657
00:49:54,440 --> 00:50:00,239
like they were a minus two in
about five minutes with him Russ why

658
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:07,159
pale in coffee on the floor.
Yeah, but does it speak to the

659
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,159
lack of identity and the inconsistency with
this team? The fact that I mean

660
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:15,639
PJ started right away for the Clippers. He was playing as soon as they

661
00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:17,400
brought him in. He was playing, He was given an opportunity, then

662
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:22,639
he was out. Now he's back
in after talking to the media again,

663
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:30,800
after being disciplined, and looks to
be secure in a position moving forward with

664
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:38,079
this team. It's just I don't
know the lineup in rotation and the adjustment

665
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:44,480
that's happening right now with eleven games
left. We're not fine tuning, we're

666
00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:51,599
searching for something. It's yeah,
the numbers are hammering. They're not us.

667
00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:55,400
They're not fine tuning. They're just
bashing the broken thing that they're trying

668
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:01,239
to fix right now. And I
don't blame Tied to some extent because he

669
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:07,639
hasn't gotten much consistency even from his
stars at times. So you have to

670
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:14,880
try things. But it's not like
PJ is a completely different player than you

671
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,000
know what we obviously said were some
issues when you have him out there and

672
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:22,199
it seems like he's firmly in the
rotation. Now he's good to go.

673
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:28,960
Yeah, it's not changing. I
don't think No, Tys didn't play last

674
00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:35,039
night, Tyson didn't play. Aren't
they the same height? I think PJ

675
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,360
might be like two inches shorter.
Pj's four inches shorter, so okay,

676
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:44,800
YEAHS six to eight six eight,
so he's three inches shorter. Yeah,

677
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:52,480
so Tyson six eight. I don't
know. The addoctation is going to be

678
00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:55,199
maddening. I know that much.
When it's good, we're going to be

679
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,719
like, this makes sense. And
when it's bad, we're going to be

680
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:05,280
like, why we know this is
bad? Yeah, you're dead. We

681
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,199
saw what was good, Like like, I want to go back and look

682
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,519
at the lineups during the really good
stretches and see how many guys actually really

683
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:15,519
did play meaningful minutes, you know
what I'm saying. Like Plumbley was playing

684
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:20,679
a lot better. You know,
there were definitely some outlayers and everyone was

685
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,199
playing really good. A mirror was
shooting crazy again. Plumbly missed though a

686
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,519
lot of the good stretch for the
Clippers because you know, you got hurt

687
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:36,559
in Game one with James Harden.
I, yeah, I I don't know

688
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,159
what's going to happen come the playoffs
with these rotations right now, and I

689
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:43,280
don't know if the guys know,
and I think that's a huge part of

690
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,599
it. I think I do wonder
if that uncertainty because coach Leu was brought

691
00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:51,119
up post game before it's not about
One of the things he said it's not

692
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,400
about was minutes, how many minutes
you get, And the end of that

693
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:58,800
line was saying, it's about winning, it's about sacrifice for the team,

694
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:04,480
and now he's changing sacrife to investing. And then he also talked about recently

695
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:09,239
how you getting all those individual workouts
in and doing your work on the side

696
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:15,480
is different than what you bring to
the team. And I'm not sure who

697
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:22,880
that's pointed towards who he's talking about. Is it multiple guys, PG,

698
00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:27,000
is it Kawhi, is it Harden? I don't know. I'm guessing it's

699
00:53:27,039 --> 00:53:35,840
a star, It's it's somebody playing
a lot of minutes bones checking out on

700
00:53:36,039 --> 00:53:40,920
me, the skeleton key, skeleton
bro, the skeleton key. I don't

701
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,480
know if that one is that they
might have changed the locks on that one.

702
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:52,880
Yeah, that's a bummer. That's
a bummer for Locksmith for yeah,

703
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,840
the PLAYO, well, the planoff
rotations, it's like we're gonna I can

704
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,119
already see it. We're gonna go
so ball against a big team and just

705
00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:07,760
get destroyed for that stretch. I
mean, unless the three point shooting,

706
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,519
I guess returns. You're just not
stopping anything. So I mean, like

707
00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:15,920
you said, well, you can't
trade buckets down. Yeah, I mean

708
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:22,159
the timber Wolves, I guess like
their big flaw maybe is their offense overall.

709
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,760
I mean, but we've seen enough
of ant cooking, as they certainly

710
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:31,039
have weapons, you know, offensively, it's not that, you know,

711
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:37,360
it's not as simple necessarily as just
outscore them could be if our offense was

712
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:44,800
looking that good, but could be
above. I still wonder how much of

713
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,920
it is tired legs and being an
older team, and how much of it

714
00:54:49,159 --> 00:54:52,280
is a lack of effort. Right
now, I think I'd feel better if

715
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:57,760
I knew it was a lack of
effort, because that's the switch. That's

716
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,880
the switch right there, the effort
switch. No that like that, Yeah,

717
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:07,599
of course I would definitely feel feel
way better about that, and said

718
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:12,079
they're just old. Do we know
that? But it kind of goes back

719
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:15,920
to it kind of goes back to
my thing about this. Uh, my

720
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:22,719
central thesis is like I still can't
tell what's worse, is like if they

721
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,320
don't care about the regular season,
or if they think they've done enough.

722
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:30,480
And I still think that the ladder
is probably worse. I think the ladder

723
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:34,800
is probably worse if you're assuming right
now after two months of good play,

724
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:37,280
Hey, we're good, I've seen
enough. Like I think that that's I

725
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,840
just think that that's like criminally delusional. Let me just put on my pants

726
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:50,880
today. Yeah, we're good.
No, we're good, We're good at

727
00:55:50,960 --> 00:56:05,079
them. The next I knew it
was kind of the nastyness to the play

728
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:12,480
and how quickly it changed almost feels
like they did flip a switch just in

729
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:16,880
the wrong direction. Yeah, and
if you can do that, you can

730
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:22,280
you can turn it back on baby
even. All right, So to close

731
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,840
out the playoff segment before we do
a brand new segment after this set of

732
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:31,679
ads, will give us a one
sentence As of March twenty six, six

733
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,960
thirty three pm, give us a
one your one sentence, maybe two sentence

734
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:44,280
outlook on the Clippers playoff on the
Clippers seated We're good. We're good.

735
00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:50,639
Clippers twenty twenty four. We're good. They have they have perhaps broken the

736
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:54,480
paint in the wrong way. Coming
up, we're gonna we got a fun

737
00:56:54,599 --> 00:57:00,119
news segment, just some fun facts
what we're gonna do, and then we're

738
00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:02,280
gonna close out the show with some
adam positivity. If you're listening to the

739
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,320
show, thank you. If you're
watching, thank you as well. We've

740
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:07,559
got some ads coming up. They
might be allowed for those listening. If

741
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:09,639
that's been the case, you go
ahead and turn it down. We got

742
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:15,039
ads and then some fun facts.
In three two, Hey, it's Clips

743
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:17,400
and Dip Season two, episode sixty
three, I've met a Maslim. We

744
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,880
got Chuck Mockler and Will Updyke.
If you missed the Clips and Double Dip

745
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,239
last night postgame. We didn't have
the technology to bring them both on,

746
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:30,599
but we did have Chuck Mockler on, who gave great analysis on a game

747
00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:32,440
that, even if the Clippers had
won, we wouldn't have said, Oh,

748
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:37,480
everything's Everything's fine. Now they're good
to go. It's gonna take a

749
00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:42,159
lot more to restore faith in this
fan base for the most part, and

750
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,480
it just it's deserved with what we
have seen since the Grammy road Trip.

751
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:50,519
But Charles, I know we're trying
to bring some levity to everything that's happening

752
00:57:50,599 --> 00:57:52,840
right now, So why don't you
introduce this new segment here. Yeah,

753
00:57:52,880 --> 00:58:00,440
this new segment is called clipper Ship
Facts that we're just gonna educate people on

754
00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:02,840
clipper ships. These are some facts. If any of you two want to

755
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,480
jump in with basic questions or to
read the next facts, feel free.

756
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:12,960
First one, a lot of people
don't really know how the clipper ship evolved.

757
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,159
It actually started from the small swift
coastal packet known as the Baltimore Clipper.

758
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:22,760
The true clipper evolved first in America
and then later on the British shipyards.

759
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,559
Of course. Uh. And the
emphasis on speed came partly from the

760
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:30,159
desire to bring the first tea of
the season back from China. We all

761
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,599
know how good that tea is,
first tea of the season, very valuable.

762
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,800
Got to get it back while it's
still in season, right, Gotta

763
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,840
get it back. So what we
before this, they were just all,

764
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,239
let's build the biggest ship effort.
I think they just they gave a really

765
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,599
long mechanical leg so they could touch
the bottom of the ocean and they would

766
00:58:47,679 --> 00:58:52,800
walk, And then they figured out
first ship wouldn't the first ships have been

767
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,599
small? Yeah. I don't think
anyone's gonna argue with you on that.

768
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,840
What's the distinct Like, what's the
distinguishing line between like, say, a

769
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,000
sick kayak and a clipper. Is
it just a mast poop deck? I

770
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:15,239
think there's a poop deck involved.
Uh, any kayak another fact or bodyboard,

771
00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:22,800
another ship fact. Oftentimes a clipper
will be confused with a wind jammer.

772
00:59:23,079 --> 00:59:27,320
And these people don't even hate when
people do that. Don't even get

773
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,079
me fucking started. Uh, They're
two completely different types of ship. Clippers

774
00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:36,199
were optimized for speed only in carrying
highly priced cargo and small quantities such as

775
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:38,599
tea spices or opium. He hey. A wind jammer, of course,

776
00:59:38,719 --> 00:59:43,840
is a large sailing ship optimized for
cargo capacity, ease of handling, and

777
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:51,039
carrying low priced bulk cargo such as
your lumber and fertilizers. You can imagine

778
00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:53,960
like being on a ship times and
like you're having a huge ship full of

779
00:59:54,039 --> 01:00:00,519
fertilizer. That's your life. You
get used to it. I live next

780
01:00:00,599 --> 01:00:04,920
to a horse corral thing over here. Have you ever heard of press gangs?

781
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:10,159
Yes, it was when they would
round up people to unwillingly become sailors.

782
01:00:10,519 --> 01:00:14,639
So they would like go to bars
and find drunk people and then you

783
01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:16,599
would wake it up on a ship
and they were a sailor. Now you

784
01:00:16,719 --> 01:00:21,039
signed this waiver just last night.
Yeah you don't remember, man, You

785
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,360
were of sound mind. And then
the final beat the ship. How do

786
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:30,760
you even say you sail now?
And you were like and then the final

787
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:37,920
fact. We just have some records
here. The fastest voyage from New York

788
01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:43,119
to San Francisco was done in eighteen
fifty one by the Flying Cloud in a

789
01:00:43,199 --> 01:00:46,760
record eighty nine days, and the
James Baines no one's to beat that,

790
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:53,000
never uh set the transatlantic sailing record
for twelve days and six hours from Boston

791
01:00:53,079 --> 01:00:59,760
to Liverpool. Unbelievable. I heard
the Flying Cloud was so fast an old

792
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,480
man couldn't even yell at it and
shake his fist. Hell yeah, hell

793
01:01:04,599 --> 01:01:07,599
yeah, surprise, going going for
that. Why aren't we pushing the limits

794
01:01:07,639 --> 01:01:10,559
of ships anymore? I say,
bring, yeah, bring this best.

795
01:01:10,719 --> 01:01:15,599
After what just happened in Baltimore,
let's let's let's think ships. I think

796
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:20,119
we could do better. I think
over there. Yeah, let's bring we

797
01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:23,719
really took our foot off the gas. As far as ships and concern Yeah,

798
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:30,920
I agree with that. Electric ships
ships ships interesting. Let's bring back

799
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:38,599
oldie time planes too. Those are
fun. Boeing's already doing that with loose

800
01:01:38,679 --> 01:01:43,400
safety regulation. Yeah, they're doing
the old kind of planes where they yeah,

801
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,119
where they're just not came from a
kid I ordered in the mail.

802
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:50,360
It cost me. The kid cost
me twelve bucks. Planes worth like ten

803
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,800
million. Lets it all right?
Any more thoughts on Clippers ships before we

804
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,880
make Adam give us a positive vibe
before heading up. Oh, that wasn't

805
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:05,519
it. It felt it felt more
positive anything else than happened in this episode.

806
01:02:05,559 --> 01:02:07,440
I loved it. Choke all right, there we go. All right,

807
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:10,440
I got something, I got I
got something. I got something.

808
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,320
I got something that we make them
up here. Uh No, I said

809
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:19,239
this last night, and I do
kind of believe it. The Clippers are

810
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,960
embarking on a four game road trip. I actually think it's a good time

811
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:30,440
to get away band together, hunker
down, getting that bunker, getting that

812
01:02:30,639 --> 01:02:35,559
fox hole together on the road,
like when they went six and one on

813
01:02:35,639 --> 01:02:39,119
the Grammy road trip. Maybe it's
coming full circle now. This is exactly

814
01:02:39,199 --> 01:02:46,039
what they need to find themselves,
a tough road trip. Yeah all right,

815
01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:52,039
and they're taking the cloud Ship to
get there. The Flying Cloud,

816
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:57,519
the Flying Cloud, the Flying Cloud, the Philadelphia Adam. Thank you for

817
01:02:57,599 --> 01:03:00,480
the positive vibes. We hope everyone
lists is having a good start to their

818
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:05,519
week despite what the Clippers are doing. We're gonna be back with a double

819
01:03:05,559 --> 01:03:07,480
dip after the game. In affiliate
We're doing a live hang on Saturday.

820
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,360
It's hopefully gonna be more fun than
the last couple of lives we've had,

821
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,920
because those have been fun in a
much different way. We need some reviews.

822
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,519
Well, where can people review this
or watch this or listen to this

823
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:22,960
if they want to switch it up. You can review this show over on

824
01:03:23,119 --> 01:03:28,840
Apple Podcasts or Spotify. You can
listen to this show wherever you get your

825
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,559
podcasts. Go on check this show
out visually. You can do it over

826
01:03:31,559 --> 01:03:36,840
at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers
podcast and you can't leave a review there,

827
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,480
but you can leave a little comment
on any video if you please,

828
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:42,960
and we'll see it. We'll also
see any comments you make on the internet

829
01:03:43,079 --> 01:03:49,679
over on at x or Twitter comment
that's at clippers pod. Yep, we're

830
01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:53,960
searching through your We're searching through your
info. We got all the info to

831
01:03:54,039 --> 01:03:58,679
go ahead and follow that account.
We will. We'll take a prouise a

832
01:03:58,719 --> 01:04:02,079
little of your personal accounts. We
will be in touch. Yeah. I

833
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:05,000
hope everyone has a good rest of
your week. We'll talk to you soon.

834
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:11,639
Follow out of May over on x
dot com and as always, let's go clips
