1 00:00:28,359 --> 00:00:36,640 Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. This 2 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,079 is your host, Adam Graham. If you have a comment, email it 3 00:00:41,119 --> 00:00:47,679 to me Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net. Follow us on Twitter at 4 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:53,640 Radio Detectives, and check us out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, 5 00:00:53,719 --> 00:00:59,520 slash Great Detectives. If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your 6 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,560 favorite podcast software. Today's program is brought you in part by the financial support 7 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:11,120 of our listeners. You can support the show on a one time basis by 8 00:01:11,239 --> 00:01:17,200 mailand a donation to Adam Graham pilbox one five nine one three. That's peelbox 9 00:01:17,439 --> 00:01:23,799 one five nine thirteen, Boise, Idaho eight three seven one five. 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Suspicion points in 19 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:40,840 only one direction. The murderer was heartless, cold blooded. Your job get 20 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:52,919 him Dragnet. That document a drama of an actual crime. For the next 21 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,319 thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel 22 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,960 step by step on the side of the law through an actual case from official 23 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:06,800 police files, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Drag Net 24 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:14,000 is the story of your police force in action. It was Saturday, November 25 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,520 fifth, was foggy in Los Angeles. We're working a day watch out of 26 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,759 homicide. My partner's Ben Romero. The boss is at backstrand Chievity Tectives. 27 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,280 My name is Friday. Was three thirty five PM when I got to Room 28 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:39,840 forty two homicide long distance. This is Friday in Homicide. I'd like to 29 00:03:39,879 --> 00:03:44,400 place a call to mister Frank g Renard and Murphy Idaho a number seven six 30 00:03:44,479 --> 00:03:47,879 one. Frank Idaho was seven Yeah, that's right. The call has been 31 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:51,800 cleared with a business office. All right, do you want me to call 32 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,599 your backside? No, I'll hang on. Okay, I'll plank it for 33 00:03:53,680 --> 00:04:06,960 you. Umber long distance mcter, Frank Ornard Murphy Idaho, Murky seven sixth 34 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:15,520 one. Okay, you had you're another player. Tags are called the medicine 35 00:04:15,639 --> 00:04:18,600 seven nine sixty one. Thank you. The time in charge is on across 36 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:26,959 completed operator read operator the reader. Put a man out there, Yes, 37 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:39,439 Murphy Idaho. Rooting and person making tc N A mt another A how man 38 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,560 you in? Operator? Any home? Boys? E alright? One other 39 00:04:44,879 --> 00:04:50,319 one of exels lay one six O. Thank you about them? Three boys? 40 00:04:51,279 --> 00:05:09,639 Oh oh boys, I'm calling neighbors. Oh mercy seven six one, 41 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:23,240 thank you. Keep bringing seven six one. They're bringing the number sergeants. 42 00:05:23,399 --> 00:05:38,000 Okay, thanks, Hello mister Frank Renard please los Anglers calling. Who do 43 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:41,560 you want? Mister Frank Renard? Please? Los Angeler is calling. I 44 00:05:41,639 --> 00:05:45,120 am Frank Renard. Go ahead, please all right, target go ahead. 45 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:50,480 Hello, Hello, hello, Frank Renard. There's a sergeant Friday, Los 46 00:05:50,519 --> 00:05:55,920 Angeles Police Department. Got an urgent message for you, but me, what's 47 00:05:55,959 --> 00:05:59,920 the matter? Your wife Dolores asked me to call you. Something's happened to 48 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,800 you mother. What do you mean what happened? I better let your wife 49 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,800 tell you. She wants you back in Los Angeles right away. But what's 50 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,040 it all about? I can't leave my job now. You better come. 51 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:26,839 Your mother's been murdered. Talk to the skipper, joways on his way in. 52 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,399 That's good. Did you call my husband? Did you? He's flying 53 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,560 down from Idahoo tonight, be here in the morning. You tell him about 54 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:35,399 me, the trouble I'm in. I told him his mother was murdered. 55 00:06:35,439 --> 00:06:39,120 That's all I told him. Missus Renaud, What am I gonna say to 56 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,720 Frank? He always decided him with his mother. He'll never believe me. 57 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:46,480 What can I tell him? Jury can give you more trouble than your husband 58 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,600 can. What you're gonna tell them? Are you stupid or something? How 59 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,920 many times do I have to say it? I didn't kill her. I 60 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,800 didn't care her. It's a small room, as Renard, we can hear 61 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,360 you. Sit down, Please, I won't sit down. You're not finding 62 00:06:57,439 --> 00:07:00,319 this on me because I didn't do it. Anybody could have killed they all 63 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,480 had, but I didn't. Will you sit down, please, I don't 64 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:05,079 have to take this on. No tramp cheeping me and here asking me questions. 65 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,160 I told you all I know. Look, you're in a bad spot. 66 00:07:08,199 --> 00:07:13,199 I hope you realize that I didn't kill her, Miss Renard. How 67 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,439 long have you and your mother in law been living together in the house on 68 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,160 Chava's Road? His strength took the job up in Idaho about six months. 69 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,680 He said it'd be better for me while he was away living with her. 70 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,079 Your neighbors told us you didn't get along very well with your mother in law. 71 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:30,160 That's right, I didn't. She hated me. I hated her. 72 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:32,399 You used to fight with her? Is that right? You hit her only 73 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,439 a couple of times. She called me dirty names. I hit her, 74 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:42,000 she pulled me by the hair, and I hated her like everything. I 75 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,360 didn't kill her. Once more, Miss Renard, would you mind telling us 76 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:46,600 how you spent your time since early this morning? Where you went, what 77 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,759 you did? Everything? I told you already everything. Will you tell us 78 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:57,920 again? Please? I got up about quarter to nine. I had a 79 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,079 cup of coffee, and then I got dressed. The old lady was on 80 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:03,800 the back porch doing the washing. What did your mother in law do? 81 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:07,519 For a living. I told you she took in washing. After I got 82 00:08:07,639 --> 00:08:11,560 dressed, I left the house ten minutes after nine. I went downtown to 83 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,480 the dentist. He felled a tooth for me. It's hard here, yo, 84 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,920 Kharashka. What time did you leave the dentist's office? Not quarter after 85 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,240 ten? Maybe twenty after? You can ask king, what did you do 86 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:26,800 after that? I walked around window shopping. Did you buy anything? Talk 87 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:30,480 to anybody? I told you no. What time did you get home? 88 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,120 Past twelve? I went in the bedroom. The old lady was on the 89 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:41,279 floor, blood all over. I felt her heart. It wasn't beating. 90 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:46,159 Is that when you got the blood on your dress? Yeah? Now that's 91 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:50,720 all I'm gonna say. Three times I told you the same story already, 92 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:52,240 and you still can't account for your time between ten twenty this morning and the 93 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:56,039 time you found a body and called the police At twelve thirty. I told 94 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,480 you I left the dentist, I went windows shopping, then I walked home. 95 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,360 During that time, you didn't talk to anyone, and no one saw 96 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,799 you. Lots of people saw me, people on the street downtown. I'm 97 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:07,440 not tramped. I don't talk to everybody, none of your neighbors saw you 98 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,240 come home, as Renard. Of course they didn't see me. I cut 99 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:13,639 across the back lot of from Penose Avenue. I came in the back way. 100 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,679 The lady Whill live next door to you, She says, she was 101 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,919 in the backyard about noontime. She stayed there after one o'clock. She didn't 102 00:09:18,919 --> 00:09:22,240 see you come in the back way. And she's a liar. She's a 103 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,279 dirty liar. You and your husband took out an insurance policy on your mother 104 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,320 in law last year, Is that right, miss Night? Sure it is? 105 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:33,519 What of it? Five thousand dollars? Yeah? So what you know 106 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,039 a man by the name of George Martino? No, you better tell the 107 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,399 truth, miss Renard. All right, so I do is a friend of 108 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,159 mine. You've been running around with him since your husband's been away. None 109 00:09:43,159 --> 00:09:46,480 of your business. I do what I want. Your mother in law find 110 00:09:46,519 --> 00:09:48,120 out about Martino. That's what you thought about most of the time. Oh, 111 00:09:48,279 --> 00:09:52,279 she was crazy. He's a friend of mine, that's all. Are 112 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:56,039 you telling the truth, miss Lenard. Martino's a boyfriend of mine. I 113 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,799 told you. That's all. Your mother in law find out you were running 114 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:01,320 around with him, She warns you if you didn't shake Martino, she'd write 115 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,279 your husband. You said you'd kill her if she did. That's alf that's 116 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,399 what your mother in law told one of the neighbor ladies. I said it 117 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,840 just to scare her. One night. I was drinking. We had a 118 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,759 fight. She was yapping at me all night, just to scare her. 119 00:10:15,879 --> 00:10:20,200 But she wrote the letter anyway, That's what she said. But I didn't 120 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,960 kill her. You had the time and the motive and the opportunity. It 121 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:30,759 wasn't me. I didn't kill her. Interrogation room, Friday, This is 122 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,879 Brennan, Joe, Yeah, Bill, where are you? Santa Monica picked 123 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:43,000 up George Martino. Ben and I drove Missus Ronard to Lincoln Heights Jail, 124 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,759 fifth floor and had her booked on suspicion of one eighty seven PC. When 125 00:10:46,799 --> 00:10:48,480 we checked back in at the office, Brennan and Wiseman, the other two 126 00:10:48,519 --> 00:10:52,159 men on the case with Ben and I, were questioning George Martino in the 127 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,480 interrogation room. Ben and I stood by. Martino admitted only two things. 128 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,399 He had been running around with Missus Renard since her husband left town, and 129 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,200 he had her. Missus Renard expressed a desire to do away with her mother 130 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:05,080 in law. After the questioning of Martino, Sergeant Brennan, Ben and I 131 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,240 met with cheap ed backstrand was five fifteen pm. You get everything but the 132 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,240 murder. Webinon that. Missus Renaud's conflation. She ought to come through hunt 133 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:16,120 you. I don't know. She's scared, but she still got a smart 134 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,360 mouth. What about Martino Brennan. Do you think he had a hand in 135 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:22,919 it? I don't think so. We spent most of the afternoon talking to 136 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,879 him. He hasn't got the guts. We took a statement and does Evan 137 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,960 Alabanon solid What was the cause of death? Strangulation, multiple fractures of the 138 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,600 skull. All the motives are with Missus Renard chief pretty clear cut job. 139 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,639 No evidence of robbery or burglary. I guess a couple of address or drawers 140 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,039 in her bedroom were emptied on the floor, closed the store around, pretty 141 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,759 obvious, planned to make it look like burglary. Maybe we found three one 142 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,399 dollar bills in plain sight. They were on the floor near the body. 143 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,799 If a burgler went through his stuff, he wouldn't have missed that money, 144 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,279 and it shouldn't be too much trouble tying it up. Shouldn't be scared her. 145 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:58,000 Friday and Romero. You follow the case through right in just a minute? 146 00:11:58,799 --> 00:12:05,759 Hello Backstrand, Yeah right, I'll write out send them over them. 147 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:09,639 Hey Jones just finished checking the evidence of the crime lab. Yeah, he 148 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:20,639 thinks missus Renard's innocent. Now they are fellas facts on lie. But she 149 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:24,559 had every reason in the world to kill the old lady. In my book, 150 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:26,440 she couldn't have killed it. All right, let's have it ly. 151 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,559 How does the evidence ad up? That's just it. Joe doesn't. Take 152 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,600 a look dress missus Lenard was wearing when she found the body. That's it. 153 00:12:33,799 --> 00:12:35,240 The blood smears near the hem. Two smears, that's all. Now, 154 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,799 if she murdered her mother in law, there should be more blood on 155 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:41,720 this dress. It shouldn't be smeared. I mean, first of all, 156 00:12:41,759 --> 00:12:45,080 the man on which the old lady was killed, head was better do must 157 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,679 have bled profusely, no question about that. Go ahead. Whoever murdered the 158 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,360 old lady must have stains all over that clothes. Here's the important part. 159 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,879 Because of the nature of the wound, it would have stained and drops, 160 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,080 not smears. How can you tell the difference? Maybe these are drop stains 161 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,799 on her desk. I checked them with the microscope. Only the higher ribs 162 00:13:01,799 --> 00:13:05,039 of the cloth are stained. The smears, nothing else but the drop forms 163 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,360 its own definite drop pattern and permeates the cloth soaks in. No signs of 164 00:13:09,399 --> 00:13:13,360 that on her dress. I don't want. Now, here's a silk scarf 165 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,759 the old lady was strangling. Yeah, here's what I found in the not 166 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,519 tied in the scarf. A blonde hair wavy. Old lady had dark hair, 167 00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:24,279 so does miss Renaud, so does her boyfriend. That's what I mean. 168 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:28,279 This blonde hair is one of two things that didn't belong at that Murdercy 169 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,000 what else you got? This? Its small piece of plastic a gun but 170 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,840 I'd say, yeah, criss cross surface and a little smooth area here. 171 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,200 Yeah, the killer could have hit the old lady of the butter of a 172 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:41,039 gun and a piece of the stock could have chipped off like this, As 173 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,039 Renard doesn't own a gun. You did your money? No, where does 174 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,279 that leave us? I don't know. Joe. There's the stuff. You 175 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,720 can't disregard it. Maybe you can explain it. Yeah, how well, 176 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:54,039 first prove this dress isn't the one missus Renard was wearing this morning. Then 177 00:13:54,159 --> 00:13:56,840 find the dress she did wear and we know she wore this when the dentist 178 00:13:56,919 --> 00:14:00,200 identified it, and so they do with the neighbor. That's what I'm mean. 179 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:03,879 The dress is too clean, doesn't belong. Yeah, this blonde hair, 180 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,240 this piece of gun butt, they don't belong in it. When you 181 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,840 think she's innocent, you're looking at the evidence. What do you think? 182 00:14:13,639 --> 00:14:16,679 Six pm, Saturday, November fifth, Ben and I went back to the 183 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,279 office and met with Brennan Wiseman and had backstrand. The open and shutcase against 184 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,360 Missus Renard was up in the air, but we still weren't sure that she 185 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,679 was innocent of the murder of her mother in law. Ben and I drove 186 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,399 to the Lincoln Heights jail and interviewed the suspect again. She agreed to submit 187 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,120 to a light detector test. We drove back to the office, contacted Sergeant 188 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:37,720 Burger, the department's polyograph man, and set up a special test for the 189 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:41,279 following day. The next morning, we met with Berger and formulated a list 190 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,279 of key questions, and then we picked up Missus Renard and brought her to 191 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,080 the third floor of the Old City Jail building. The polyograph room. At 192 00:14:48,159 --> 00:14:52,919 ten thirty three am, the test got under way as usual. Sergeant Burger 193 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:58,399 conducted the interview alone backstrand Ben and I waited outside. How about missus Reynard's 194 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:05,039 husband getting down yet? He's doing around news goinn of smoke? Yeah here 195 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:16,039 you are right? Yeah? Thanks? How is it now? Eleven twenty 196 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:22,720 five g's? Burger now ed, what'd you get? I can study the 197 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,720 chart a little more. The results are pretty well defined, though, how's 198 00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:30,919 it look? No reaction to the key questions what's your opinion? I don't 199 00:15:30,919 --> 00:15:45,720 think you did it? You are listening to drag net authentic stories of your 200 00:15:45,799 --> 00:15:54,080 police force and action. Eight am, Monday, November seventh, Missus Reynard 201 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,480 was released from custody. We questioned her husband, Frank Renard, briefly. 202 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:02,240 He could tell us nothing more than we already knew. Brennan and Wiseman were 203 00:16:02,279 --> 00:16:03,960 called back on the case, and together the four of us started over again 204 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,159 from the beginning. We had a dead body, two pieces of physical evidence 205 00:16:08,159 --> 00:16:11,679 to work with, no idea how to fit them together, and no suspects. 206 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,159 We went back to the Shavas Road neighborhood, where a murdered woman lived 207 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,919 and started pushing doorbells. We canvassed the neighborhood for three days and we uncovered 208 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:25,919 one slim lead. He was selling magazine's officer went door to door right up 209 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,600 the street. Here, a young fellow. Could you describe the man for 210 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,360 us, please? Nothing to talk about, tasty face, pimply complexion, 211 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:38,480 blonde hair. Five thirty pm, Wednesday, November the night Ben and I 212 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,120 met with Brennan and Wiseman and had Backstrand's office to compare notes. Together, 213 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,519 we had more than a dozen reports of the magazine salesman's presence in the neighborhood 214 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,320 just prior to the murder of Missus Renard's mother in law. The various descriptions 215 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,639 of the man which we obtained from the people in the neighborhood tallied closely about 216 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,039 six feet, one hundred and seventy pounds, pimply complexion, blonde hair, 217 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,080 fast talking about twenty five years old. As we know, Scavory was the 218 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,319 only stranger in the neighborhood last Saturday morning, only one that people remember. 219 00:17:03,359 --> 00:17:07,240 Anyway. How close did you trace him to the Renaud house? You got 220 00:17:07,279 --> 00:17:11,200 your list there, Brennan, Yeah, they are thanks. Let's see when 221 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,599 He picked up his tracks down on Floresta Street, sold a couple of descriptions 222 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:18,160 there and he headed up Landers Avenue on the Chavs Road. Yeah, the 223 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,839 Renards live at twenty two eighty Chavas Road. A salesman talked to the woman 224 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,000 a twenty two seventy four Shavers. That's three doors away from the Renaureds. 225 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,720 When has he seen them? Let me see where is that Brennan go on 226 00:17:29,839 --> 00:17:32,759 the fifteen seven sheet show. Didn't have enough room on the report. Oh 227 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,079 yeah, here is missus John Rico, twenty two seventy four Shavas. The 228 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,000 guy was there about eleven forty five Saturday morning, and that puts him in 229 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,240 the ruining. First time he ever showed in that neighborhood and first time sk 230 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,319 greast kid. Not a very good sale. Here's the name of the company 231 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,160 he's working for, the Harrison News Distributors. Did you jake with him? 232 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,519 And they're closed for the night. We'll call them the first thing tomorrow. 233 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,920 Good something else for you? And a call from Frank Renard this afternoon. 234 00:17:56,039 --> 00:17:59,079 What do he have to say? Seems in the excitement just after the murder 235 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,000 Missus Renard over I looked a couple of things. What's that? And they're 236 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,319 missing a yellow table model radio. It's in the bedroom where the old lady 237 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,119 was killed. Well, that ties in with the robbery motive. And they're 238 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,359 missing a ring too, belonged to missus Renaud topaz ring supposed to be worth 239 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,839 a little money, which she didn't notice it was gone until the day. 240 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,559 That's right, got the serial number on the radio? Yeah right here, 241 00:18:18,079 --> 00:18:22,039 yeh, I's see yeah, Ben, here we are Emmerson Model five one 242 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,799 one eight thousand two seven seven six on nine. A lot of small radios, 243 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,559 there's only one with that serial number on it. Track it down. 244 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:37,720 A complete description of the Topaz ring and the serial numbers and description of the 245 00:18:37,799 --> 00:18:41,599 yellow cable model radio were sent to the pawn shop detailed. The information was 246 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,000 then placed on the stolen property list and relayed to every pawnshop operator in the 247 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:48,480 city. The next morning, Ben and I interviewed the manager of the Harrison 248 00:18:48,519 --> 00:18:52,400 News distributing company. There. The suspect had given his name as Sam Bricker. 249 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,039 We checked out his home address turned out to be a gas station in 250 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,640 North Hollywood. We took the suspect's job application with a specimen of his handwriting, 251 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,799 and then we drove back to the office Sam Bricker. We were unable 252 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:07,599 to get a make on the name from the record bureau. We checked the 253 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,759 cards and every known criminal who was cataloged in the oddity file as having a 254 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:15,559 pimply complexion. None of them matched. That night we got out on apb 255 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,240 in a radiogram. The suspects trail led from one salesman's job to the next. 256 00:19:19,839 --> 00:19:22,720 On his last job, he gave his name as Albert Barry. His 257 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,920 address is fourteen thirty Palallelo Drive. That was in the Echo Lake district then, 258 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:33,440 and I drove out to check it fourteen twenty a, fourteen thirty Here 259 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,240 it is, Jill. Yeah, least it's not a gas station. Huh. 260 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:48,640 Come on tiresome Huh. Yeah, I could stand a change. Yes, 261 00:19:48,759 --> 00:19:52,880 what is it? We're looking for an Albert Barry, ma'am does he 262 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,400 live here? Mister Barry, I'm sorry, he and his wife moved four 263 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:03,119 days ago. We identified ourselves as police officers and they had of the land. 264 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,559 Lady and missus Katherine Hoffman show us the apartment which Barry and his wife 265 00:20:06,599 --> 00:20:10,039 had occupied. It was still vacant in one of the closets in the apartment. 266 00:20:10,079 --> 00:20:11,799 We found a cheap overnight bag. The lock on it was broken and 267 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:17,599 one of the seams had ripped. I forgot about that old bag, and 268 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,279 mister Barry told me I could throw it away. Take a look. Come 269 00:20:19,319 --> 00:20:23,039 in. How long has Berry been married? Do you know missus Hoffman? 270 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,240 No? I don't, But the way they acted lovey dovey all the time, 271 00:20:26,319 --> 00:20:32,039 I don't think they've been together long. Look some kind of an identification 272 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,759 tag. Yeah, let me see. It's a tool disc. It looks 273 00:20:34,839 --> 00:20:41,240 like Dennis Jamison Larabie, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. You're not after mister Barry, 274 00:20:41,279 --> 00:20:42,839 are you, officer, Yes, ma'am, we are. Did he leave 275 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,079 a forward in an address? I wish she did. I'm holding three letters 276 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,039 for missus Barry in my apartment right now. May we see them? Please? 277 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,599 Certainly? Would you step this way please? My apartments just across the 278 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,720 hall, Yes, ma'am. Would you like a bottle of beer or something? 279 00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:06,000 No, ma'am, thanks. Let's see. I thought I yes, 280 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:11,400 hit a uh pretty often sergeant from her folks. I think missus Barry's from 281 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,079 Fresno. That's good. I want to copy down this return addressment. Yeah, 282 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,920 go ahead, Okay, that's C. K Ulrich ulriic K five two 283 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:23,519 five North Womona, Fresno. Yeah, very arm Is Hoffman. By the 284 00:21:23,559 --> 00:21:26,519 way, did the Berry say they'd call for their mail and missus Barry did? 285 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:30,240 That's why I'm holding on to it. All right, Just one more 286 00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:33,680 question. Do you remember if mister and missus Barry had a radio? Yes, 287 00:21:33,839 --> 00:21:37,200 they did a small one. Do you remember what brand it was? 288 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,599 No, I don't. It had a yellow case. That's all I remember. 289 00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:48,119 Before we left, we called ed Backstrand and he had an immediate stakeout 290 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,440 placed at the apartment house in case the Barrys returned to pick up their mail. 291 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,200 Ben and I went back to the office and placed a call at the 292 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,880 Pittsburgh Police Department. We gave them a description and the number of the tool 293 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,640 disc which we found in Barry's old suitcase. They said they'd check with a 294 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,640 Jamison Larrabee company in the morning and then they'd call us back that night. 295 00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:08,839 Ben and I drove to Fresno and checked in at the police station up there. 296 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,039 Two officers were assigned to stake out the Ulrich home. We interviewed mister 297 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:17,920 Elrich, who identified himself as Albert Barry's father in law. He told us 298 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,079 his daughter had married the murder suspect eight months before, and he gave us 299 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,400 pictures of Barry taken at the wedding. Ulrick told us that he'd catch a 300 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,279 Santa Fe train out of Presno the next morning. He wanted to be in 301 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,440 Los Angeles to take his daughter home when Barry was apprehended. Was almost two 302 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:33,880 am when Ben and I left Presno and started back for Los Angeles. We 303 00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:37,640 checked in at the office at ten minutes past eight. The next morning, 304 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,200 at eight thirty five, the call came through from the Pittsburgh Police Department. 305 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,680 What did they say, Joe? It was a tool discard right, James 306 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,240 and Larrabie Company, he issued eighteen months ago to one of their workers. 307 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:55,200 Are you given name? Albert Barry? Eleven am Monday, December the fifth, 308 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,519 one month to the day since the sixty two year old woman had been 309 00:22:57,559 --> 00:23:00,880 beaten to death. The pictures of Barry and his wife, which had been 310 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,160 taken at their wedding, were printed up in wholesale lots and distributed to all 311 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,079 points. Mister Lric Berry's father in law arrived in town and got himself a 312 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,559 hotel room. We waited. There was no report from the stake out at 313 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:15,119 the apartment house. We checked back in at the office at five minutes to 314 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:23,279 one. I'll get it. I'm a side Friday. This is mister Ulric's 315 00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:26,599 sergeant. I just got a call from my wife, Infesno. I thought 316 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,920 you'd want to know what's that. The wife got a letter from Norma. 317 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:34,039 They're living in South Pasadena an apartment. You got the address there, Yes, 318 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,720 sir, that's what the wife called about. It's one thirty four Norway 319 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,799 Terrace. When was the letter mailed? You know? Wife said it was 320 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,839 postmark December, third day before yesterday. Get your coat on, al Rick 321 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:52,920 will be right over. Ben and I picked up mister Lric at his hotel 322 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,920 and drove to the South Pasadena address. Barry and his wife had the apartment 323 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,559 on the top floor. Neither of them were at home. Lord let us 324 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:03,079 in with a pass key. In the bedroom we found a small yellow radio. 325 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:07,599 We checked the serial numbers. They matched. It was the same radio 326 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,880 stolen from the Renard house. In the bedroom closet we found two suitcases. 327 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,960 We checked through of them. Oh, nothing in this one. Joe. 328 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,119 Here, We are Look at these what are they, sergeant? Pair of 329 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,559 plastic gun bites. Let's see, Joe. One of them has been chipsy, 330 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,000 sergeant. Somebody coming up the stairs. All right, let's get in 331 00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:38,599 the living room. Be quiet. Yeah, what are you doing here? 332 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:45,160 Where these men? Poleish? Norman? They want Albert? He killed a 333 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:55,119 woman? Sorry, right, Norman, It'll be all right. Did you 334 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:00,759 know your husband killed a woman? Miss Bery? He told me last Saturday. 335 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,079 We've been running away for a month now, moving all the time. 336 00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:15,559 I wanted to know why. He told me. He said, I wasn't 337 00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:22,000 it as much as human and I'm tired of running? Why did he kill 338 00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:26,680 her? Did he tell you that? He said it broke in the house. 339 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,640 He didn't know anyone was home. The old woman was in the bedroom. 340 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,400 She started to cry out, shut a gun, Shut it with it. 341 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,799 Where's your husband? Now? I don't know? He said he come 342 00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:48,880 home for dinner about five about the grocery. What time he got? Be 343 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,960 that passed ring? That ring you were in, misson Burry? Your usband 344 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,920 give you that? Yes? Why what kind of a stone is that? 345 00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:08,279 Pass? Britt gave it to me? Why nothing? We'll wait. Five 346 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:15,240 o'clock came and went. Barry failed to show five thirty. Ohick started to 347 00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:19,839 get nervous. Six o'clock, six thirty, no sign of Barry. I 348 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,559 went to the window and kept an eye on the street below. At six 349 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,559 forty five, a light green nashed and pulled to a stop in front of 350 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,480 the apartment house. A man got out and went into the main floor entrance. 351 00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:34,160 Burt, I'll let him all right. How long have you had the 352 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:41,559 new car? A couple of days? Bert got it? Credit. What 353 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,680 do you want me to do now? Does he have a key to the 354 00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:48,119 apartment here? I lost it? Okay? When he rings let him in? 355 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:49,839 Just act naturally, Ben, Yeah, yeah, you cover me. 356 00:26:49,880 --> 00:27:03,200 I'll get the cuffs on him, right, but gotcha? All right, 357 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:11,400 stop and marry okay. Man. Yeah, he's fast with a gun. 358 00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:18,079 Nice looking, isn't such? You never think he'd kill anybody? Come on, 359 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:23,519 let's take him in. I love him. I still love him. 360 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,200 That you're a cop. You wouldn't understand. That's right, I wouldn't understand 361 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:41,880 I'm a cop. The story you have just heard was true, only the 362 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:47,799 names were changed to protect the innocent. On February sixteenth, nineteen forty seven, 363 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,640 trial was held in Superior Court Department eighty two, City and County of 364 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,359 Los Angeles, State of California. In a moment the results of that trial. 365 00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:07,480 Albert Ralph Berry was tried and convicted of murder in the first degree. 366 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,680 His wife, Norma Berry, was found innocent of the charge that she harbored 367 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:17,079 a criminal. She was returned home with her father. Berry was executed in 368 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:25,559 the lethal gas chamber at the State Penitentiary. You have just heard Dragnet, 369 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,759 a new series of authentic cases from official files. Technical advice for Dragnet comes 370 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:34,400 from the Office of Acting Chief of Police W. A. Wharton, Los 371 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:41,359 Angeles Police Department. Tonight's program is dedicated to Private Hubert Wstes of the District 372 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,920 of Columbia Metropolitan Police Department, who, on the night of May sixteenth, 373 00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:51,400 nineteen forty seven, gave his life so that yours might be more secure. 374 00:28:57,119 --> 00:29:03,240 Fatima Cigarettes, Best of Law Cigarettes, has brought you Dragnet Fortune transcribed from 375 00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:08,880 Los Angeles. Be sure to hear songs by Martin Dunny tonight on MBC. 376 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:21,400 Welcome Back. This has some great phone calling action. This really ups the 377 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:26,039 game from the big Missing. Now we talk about scenes that age poorly. 378 00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:30,359 This one, in my opinion, probably ages better because listening to it in 379 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,519 the twenty first century, we're like, Wow, that's what it was like 380 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,640 to place a long distance phone call, and how you had to go through 381 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,359 all of those different operators and switchboards. I'm not certain it was all that 382 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:52,359 impressive at the time in its own right. I mean, the details that 383 00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:57,279 went into the sound effects were impressive, but I could imagine if I were 384 00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:03,240 a nineteen forty nine person, I might be like, Okay, that sounds 385 00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:07,400 like they really put a lot of work into making that sound like a phone 386 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,039 call. But why, I mean, when they do effects that make things 387 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:17,960 sound real when Friday and Ramea are out questioning someone, that enhances the scene 388 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,960 because you feel that you're right there with them as they're questioning, like a 389 00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:26,680 grosser or something of that sort. However, in this case, the only 390 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:33,640 reason they did the scene was so they could do the effect sequence, so 391 00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:37,799 they could have us hear Friday making the phone call. But what happened in 392 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,359 the phone call, we didn't actually need to hear that. If I had 393 00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:48,480 missed that entire sequence and had just come in when Friday went back to the 394 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:56,319 interrogation room to question the suspect I wouldn't have missed anything at all. Of 395 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:03,640 course, this complaint by popathetic nineteen forty nine person be like when you're watching 396 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,640 a film and it feels like they just had an explosion because they could not. 397 00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:12,000 Only this time it's a long distance phone call. And again, while 398 00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:18,240 the hypothetical nineteen forty nine person might have a point in the twenty first century, 399 00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:22,680 it's a fantastic record of what it was like to make a phone call. 400 00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:27,200 So it's entertaining and not really superfluous. Now I should say the Mother 401 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,319 in Law Murder is one of those fan titles that I don't much care for. 402 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,039 It definitely points the listener in the direction of the daughter in law being 403 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,640 involved when it has nothing to do with her. I don't have a better 404 00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:45,880 title, and I don't want to throw off anyone who's searching online for it, 405 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,920 and I certainly don't want to start giving out alternate titles, because then 406 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,359 that's how people end up selling two copies of the same episodes on various websites 407 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,200 because they don't actually listen to the programs. I want to sell confusion, 408 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,720 but for the record, don't care much for the title. The other thing 409 00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:08,039 I want to address is the is us cutting the ads. And while we 410 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:14,119 do play ads on most programs, we don't play the cigarettes ads on Dragnet. 411 00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:19,000 I've never locked them and I found them irritating and repetitive, which is 412 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,160 a key reason for not including them. I will say that at this point 413 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:28,599 in the podcast there is an additional reason for not including them in that the 414 00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:37,240 podcast is already being rebroadcast over a radio station KWQQ over in Iowa, and 415 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,759 I think where we're at with the podcast, who knows what we might do 416 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,200 in the future in terms of radio, in terms of other media outlets, 417 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:52,960 that having cigarette ads would require us to go in later and do additional work. 418 00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:57,119 So that I've got episodes that are ready for whatever purpose I might want 419 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,960 to use them for, it just makes sense to nodingue them. Well, 420 00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:05,279 now we turn to listener comments and feedback, and we have a comment from 421 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:12,160 Good Pods and Alexis gave our episode The Big Lamp a five star rating, 422 00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:15,799 and yeah, you can do that with individual episodes as well. Over on 423 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:21,519 Good Pods and Alexis riots really enjoyed the commentary, particularly the bit about the 424 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,680 prosecutor fallacies. Never heard of that before. Well, thanks so much. 425 00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:29,200 I was glad to bring it up. I tried not to go into detail 426 00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:34,559 because I didn't want to create a bunch of confusion or go on as long 427 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,559 as it would take to really flesh that whole thing out. Plus I don't 428 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:44,160 have, I think, the expertise to do it justice either. All folks 429 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,839 have had who are curious about it, had some fun reading on their own 430 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,000 about that. All right, Well, now it's time to thank our Patreon 431 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:54,400 supporter of the day, and I want to go ahead and thank Don. 432 00:33:54,599 --> 00:34:00,559 Don has been one of our Patreon supporters since October of twenty twenty one, 433 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:06,160 supporting us at the Detective Sergeant level of seven dollars and fourteen cents or more 434 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,559 per month. Thank you so much for your support, Dawn, And that 435 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,360 will do it for today. If you're enjoying the podcast, please be sure 436 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,679 to follow us using your favorite podcast software, and also be sure to rate 437 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,079 and review it wherever you're downloading it from. We'll be back next Saturday with 438 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:30,239 another episode of Dragnet, but join us back here on Monday for the adventures 439 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:36,199 of the Falcon Wear with Jenny in here. Huh well, no, no, 440 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,960 no. I was the first one in. It's like you had a 441 00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:39,360 key to a place. Eh, and you're lucky. I don't have a 442 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,360 suspicious mind. Well I have. Did you phone in h you told her 443 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,079 to come straight ahead in Chicago? Yeah? Well I think she had an 444 00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:49,199 accident, do you? Oh? No, no, we would have heard 445 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,400 abound it. I had the radio and the car tune of the police calls 446 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,360 with the comps. Nab you kidding? There was nobody would in miles of 447 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,119 her. After you chucked the bag into a car, she took off to 448 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,639 show up. Then she better, she's got all the doe. Just what 449 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,280 are you getting at? You told me yourself she's a very smart girl. 450 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,760 Women who are beautiful shouldn't be brainy. Meaning I think we got a double 451 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,519 cross your nuts. I'll leave it as ship. No, no, no, 452 00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:16,920 Joanna wouldn't do that thing? Why not? Well, okay, she 453 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,639 never did it before. Do you ever have eighty grand before? Hook? 454 00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:22,280 What are you worried about? It isn't even nine o'clocks. I posted she 455 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,920 doesn't show by night, and I'll start looking for and if she isn't dead, 456 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,000 when I find out, she'll wish to heavens. You will, I 457 00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:32,760 hope you'll be with us then. In the meantime, send your comments to 458 00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:39,239 Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net, follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, 459 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:45,159 and check us out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, slash Great 460 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:51,159 Detectives from Boise Alohol. This is your host, Adam graham Son and all