1 00:00:03,759 --> 00:00:13,439 Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks, your source of information 2 00:00:13,439 --> 00:00:17,519 and analysis to help you win your fantasy hockey league. Fuck off to step 3 00:00:17,839 --> 00:00:23,320 hit on, stay lost. Here's your hosts, Jesse soup Here and Victor 4 00:00:23,399 --> 00:00:30,559 Nuno Fantasy Hockey Live back when began to talk about Fantasy Hockey Dynasty Fantasy Hockey. 5 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,240 I am Jesse Severe and joining me it is Victor Nuno. Victor, 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,600 how you doing over there? I'm doing awesome, Jesse. We are in 7 00:00:38,679 --> 00:00:43,200 the thick of our draftastic series. We love to do this talk draft and 8 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,479 hope everybody as excited as we are because we got such great guests today. 9 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,719 Mitch just a fantastic guy with such great knowledge, So I hope everyone brought 10 00:00:53,719 --> 00:00:57,240 their listening years today. How are you doing. I'm doing great. I'm 11 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,560 doing great. Love getting the lowdown, getting four one one on many of 12 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:06,159 these prospects that we've been following for quite a while in Mitch brings some great 13 00:01:06,159 --> 00:01:08,280 insights. Man. But yeah, it's getting to be midsummer. I don't 14 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,560 know how this happened, Victor. But now free agency is over, now 15 00:01:11,599 --> 00:01:15,599 the draft is over, and now I'm counting the days as we got July 16 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:19,439 in August here and then it's going to start getting cold in Wisconsin again, 17 00:01:19,599 --> 00:01:25,280 and that depresses me. But hockey will come back when it gets cold. 18 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:30,000 I guess that's good. That's the consolation prize for me. Yeah, this 19 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,519 time without hockey is tough. But there's a lot of prospect tournaments. There's 20 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,000 the development camps. There's a link. I went to the Sharks development scrimmage, 21 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,760 which you'll hear a little bit me commenting on that. That was super 22 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:44,519 fun to see all the prospects. And feel free to hit me up if 23 00:01:44,519 --> 00:01:47,239 you are interested in how any of the guys are doing. I mentioned some 24 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,319 of them, but there's a whole lot going on, so you get some 25 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,640 of that. But you're right, it's not the same as the NHL season 26 00:01:52,719 --> 00:01:55,359 starting, and so at least you've got that going for you once the weather 27 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,760 starts changing in Wisconsin. Let me tell you, if you want to hit 28 00:01:57,799 --> 00:02:02,959 Victor up, I highlight reck Victor is one of the best hit or up 29 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,319 ed people. No, never mind, I can't make a I can't make 30 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,719 an objective now and out of that, Victor, if people want to reach 31 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,599 you, they can do that on our discord and to get on our discord. 32 00:02:15,719 --> 00:02:17,919 It doesn't cost you anything. You can just join it. All you 33 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,360 have to do is ask us and we'll give you a link to pop into 34 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,000 that server. It's really a great conversation going every day, even in the 35 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,599 offseason. There's a lot of folks chatting it up in there. Just hit 36 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,520 us up. Fantasy Hockey Life at gmail dot com, Me on Twitter at 37 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,479 fan Hockey Life. You on Twitter at Victor Nuno twelve, You who went 38 00:02:38,599 --> 00:02:44,599 over one thousand followers just here recently, tremendous stuff. Just in time for 39 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,120 Twitter to die, you have now achieved us a great number of followers. 40 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,000 That's not even as many as you deserve, Victor for the good content you 41 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:57,439 put out, but at least it's a nice it's a nice milestone, right, 42 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,520 Yeah, thousand on Twitter and I think ten on threads, So if 43 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,960 you want to do that, you can find me on there. I think 44 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,199 it's at Victor. I think I had to use my Instagram handle, which 45 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:12,840 is not something I ever really do. But yeah, if Twitter dies then 46 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,199 we need to switch on over. So yeah, it's v c K t 47 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,759 R one two at on threads. So yeah, that's a whole new thing 48 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,240 that is apparently happening. It's what I like, Jesse, is just the 49 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:29,719 CEO wards that are happening with Musk and Zuckerberg, because it's, yeah, 50 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,120 we're just the pawns in the end here, but it's fun to it's fun 51 00:03:32,159 --> 00:03:36,800 to see them grumble at each other. Yeah, despite all my rage, 52 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,520 I'm still just write in a cage, Victor. That's all I can say 53 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:45,120 about that. But I can say many things about fantasy hockey and about our 54 00:03:45,199 --> 00:03:49,319 stuff. Actually it's better to have Victor say them because he says them more 55 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,759 intelligently and accurately. But we have cool things to give away for people who've 56 00:03:53,759 --> 00:03:58,879 been following the NHL Draft, right, Victor, that's right. 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You're gonna be able to You can check out all the 83 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,839 show notes. I mentioned on the previous episode that we had our Jesse and 84 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,199 I solo episode, forty six pages worth the notes, charts, graphs, 85 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:55,519 all kinds of stuff, So that's something you can get as a Patreon. 86 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,839 You can also play in the tidy the tier Dynasty. If you want to 87 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:02,319 take your Dynasty play to the next level. You want to play against the 88 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,920 best of the best. You want to be able to raise the ranks and 89 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,920 join the top tier, which we already established this previous year, but you 90 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,120 can climb your way up there, and there's always relegation and promotion. Do 91 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,600 that even if you're new to Dynasty and want to treat it as a redraft. 92 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,199 This is inspired by the Kukupful, which is a great tiered league, 93 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:23,959 but it's a little bit different in Dynasty. So you definitely want to check 94 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,120 that out. That's a great perk. And of course we have our ranks 95 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,480 and tiers as we go through the team previews. 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Check it all out at Fantasy Hockey 105 00:07:04,959 --> 00:07:12,720 or sorry Patreon slash Fantasy Hockey Life, and that tidy. Like Victor said, 106 00:07:12,759 --> 00:07:17,079 you don't need to be a certified PhD In doing Dynasty. You can 107 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,319 come in and you're going to be playing some great competition, but you're going 108 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:25,439 to get to play in the premium fantras product. If you've not done that 109 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,360 before. This is an opportunity to do that with all the bells and whistles, 110 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,720 and it's pretty darn cool. You don't have to pay. That's part 111 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:35,279 of the goodness of being part of the Fantras podcast network that we have going. 112 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:40,759 It is a league that doesn't We don't charge money. You're also you're 113 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,279 not going to give up money to be a part of it. But if 114 00:07:43,279 --> 00:07:46,079 you do want to be a part of it, now is the time to 115 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,920 reach out to us. Don't procrastinate because we're filling up those leagues right now. 116 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:55,519 We're wanted to get going to do dispersal drafts of the teams that were 117 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,279 promoted that will involve many of the people who joined, So we're looking for 118 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,680 a couple dozen people right now, and now would be the time to reach 119 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:07,279 out if you want to become a patron and playing this thing. All right, 120 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:11,879 Victor, that is it for our introduction here. Let's take a break 121 00:08:11,879 --> 00:08:24,040 and come back and talk with our guy, Mitch Brown. Welcoming one of 122 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:30,279 your top favorite draft guys into this episode here. Mitch Brown of EP Ringside, 123 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,960 ready to talk about some of these drafts, of these draft picks from 124 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,200 this year. How are you doing today, Mitch doing great. Thanks for 125 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,159 having me on, Jesse and Victor. I really appreciate it. Yeah. 126 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,320 No, we love getting your insights on some of these guys, and you 127 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:46,360 were right in the thick of things with the draft this year, right. 128 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,440 Yeah, it was not a great time for my mental and physical health, 129 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,000 that is for sure. I think I hit two thousand game reports or something 130 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:56,840 like that. For the draft guide. We have four hundred players in there. 131 00:08:58,159 --> 00:09:01,919 I watched the six hundred games. Yeah, I'm still recovery. I 132 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,440 might have to just take some time off until October for the sake of your 133 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,679 personal well being. We'll try not to to go too long today, but 134 00:09:11,039 --> 00:09:15,679 you could probably recite some of these in your sleep by this point because you're 135 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:20,200 so familiar with the player pool. Some of the guys we decided to talk 136 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,480 about today's are some of your favorites or some of the takes that you have 137 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,879 come out of this draft with one of them, and starting with the guys 138 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,480 who went too high. We've talked about these on some of our past episodes, 139 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:35,679 but Nate Danielson was the first one on our list. Mitch, Steve 140 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,799 Eiserman, he doesn't care about your mock draft. If you were making a 141 00:09:39,879 --> 00:09:43,240 mock draft, Steve Eiserman's going to bust it because he took Danielson, a 142 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,440 six two center from Red Deer who has been playing for the Brandon weak Kings 143 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,080 for the past three years. Last year, in fact, he was the 144 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,440 captain, and the last two years Nate Danielson has had greater than a point 145 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,480 per game pace. My first reaction when I heard this pick was it was 146 00:09:58,519 --> 00:10:03,360 a re But Steve Eiserman has made a dope of me before, so I 147 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,960 need some true scouting take of what's going on here. What is Danielson going 148 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:11,279 to be Mitch? And could Detroit have done better with this picky about They 149 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:15,720 absolutely could have done better in my estimation. The other side of it, 150 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,080 though, too, is that he's a six foot two center. Where's the 151 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:24,080 Sea improved defensively a whole lot throughout the season, and they've had success taking 152 00:10:24,519 --> 00:10:28,200 speedy or forwards and helping them learn the nuances of the game. So I 153 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,000 think from their eyes it's a justifiable decision. Personally, I would have rather 154 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,720 just taken Oliver More if we're looking at that archetype of speedy guy who needs 155 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,600 to learn the nuances of the game. So in Danielson's case, it's a 156 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:46,600 lack of layers. I think that really put some people off, including myself. 157 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,879 So you see a guy who can deek through opponents at times, he 158 00:10:48,919 --> 00:10:52,039 can set up some chances, he can get to the net. It's really 159 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,679 just if you want to do those things in the NHL without being an insanely 160 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,080 fast skater or just looking on Trey's affing to see you as an example a 161 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:03,200 guy who was insanely fast but can do a lot of those things. You 162 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:05,000 need to have more layers to your game. You need to be deceptive, 163 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,039 you need to be able to change pace and draw opponents towards you, and 164 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:11,679 Nate Danielson doesn't really do that at this stage. And even though he's fast, 165 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,320 he doesn't have a ton of emotion skill. So for me, that 166 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,080 was about, I don't know, fifteen spots too high, and especially if 167 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,200 you're evaluating within that archetype, they want a center who plays fast, who 168 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,360 plays to the net. I thought there were better players available in that as 169 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:35,360 well. Plus it would have been fun to have Oliver Moore and Dylan markin 170 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,519 and the same team. And yeah, they're the same player according to some. 171 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,559 But yeah, anyways, that was interesting. Let's move on to the 172 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:50,559 next guy, Charlie Stramel, who went twenty first overall to Minnesota high on 173 00:11:50,879 --> 00:11:54,879 draft boards after his D minus one, but had a really rough season at 174 00:11:54,879 --> 00:11:58,399 Wisconsin, only scoring twelve points in thirty three games. I know you guys 175 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:01,399 had him at forty seven pure ringside. I definitely saw him as a second 176 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:07,799 rounder, and he went up a little bit according to where Minnesota took him. 177 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:09,559 So what are your thoughts on him? Do you think he can regain 178 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,480 some of that scoring prowess or is he just going to be more of like 179 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:18,360 a bottom six guy that's a little bit tough to play against. I think 180 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:22,120 he's certainly a bottom six guy who's tough to play against, and how tough 181 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:24,039 he is to play against will dictate how good of a pick this becomes. 182 00:12:24,039 --> 00:12:28,519 Really, if he continues to be what he is now, there's a chance 183 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,279 he's just a tweener. If he gets super pesky then and raises his ceiling 184 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,960 a little bit. I think in Minnesota's case, the first factor here is 185 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,919 probably that you saw him with the NTDP where while he was injured he did 186 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:45,679 show a little bit more dynamic ability. And the second thing is the consint 187 00:12:45,759 --> 00:12:48,320 is bringing in Mike Haystons, who, as we know, coach Minnesota State 188 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:52,679 University, which is one of the most well structured offensively tilted teams in the 189 00:12:52,799 --> 00:12:58,399 entire ends double A. So that's a massive upgard in terms of coaching, 190 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,080 from literally playing the worst system possible in Wisconsin to having the guy who might 191 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:09,879 be tactically the best. So it's really like, even then, though I'm 192 00:13:09,879 --> 00:13:11,799 trying to like give it, give get in their head a little bit, 193 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,519 but like, even from that perspective, I still find it difficult to justify 194 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,399 it because we just don't have the proof of concept of him with these skills. 195 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:26,000 When you're picking a guy in that draft spot, it's okay to go 196 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:30,519 low on upside, but there was so much talent available at twenty first. 197 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,960 I just I have a difficult time rationalizing it. And I guess, to 198 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,600 Streamle's credit, like he's a good player, I think more likely than that 199 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:41,159 he will develop more of that power side of his game and he'll play. 200 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:46,399 And Minnesota has a historically been a team that has emphasized skill in the draft, 201 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:50,279 especially in the Judd Brackett Era. So I could be way out to 202 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,919 lunch here, but that was just one that I really struggled with personally. 203 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,039 They could have taken Quinn Mustie that would have been maybe a little bit better. 204 00:13:58,759 --> 00:14:01,120 And he certainly has a bit of an edge to his game too, 205 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,600 Like down this stretch he was in everyone's face. We'll certainly get to talk 206 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:09,840 a bit more about that guy, but next, let's talk about Oliver Bonk, 207 00:14:11,399 --> 00:14:16,679 Philly's second and less buzzy first round pick. A tall defenseman, that's 208 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,000 what we know NHL GMS like early in the draft. Canadian by birth, 209 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,440 but the son of the number three overall pick twenty nine years ago, Radic 210 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:28,679 Bonk of Chechia. Oliver played for the London Knights last year, put up 211 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:33,720 ten goals, thirty assists for forty points and sixty games for the OHL runner 212 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:39,240 up London Knights. My sense of this guy is he's a defensive defenseman, 213 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:43,919 not particularly useful to us fantasy types and unless they become just minute hogs who 214 00:14:43,039 --> 00:14:48,039 just get a ton of minutes and a crew accounting stats from that, where 215 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:52,240 do you see Bonk's career going and where did you see his value relative to 216 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,279 his peers in this draft, Mitch, so, I think he's probably a 217 00:14:56,279 --> 00:14:58,720 bottom pairing defenseman in the NHL. He's a little bit on the bland side, 218 00:14:58,799 --> 00:15:03,639 right. I think he needs to develop a clear identity. Normally guys 219 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:05,279 like that don't go in the first round, but when you're a London Knight, 220 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,399 that is your identity and so teams don't care. They'll pick you wherever, 221 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,240 which I mean Easton Cowen is another example of the London Knight bump. 222 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,039 I think to a lesser degree, mind you, but still in Bon's case, 223 00:15:16,159 --> 00:15:20,039 it's just you need to see him either lean more on the defensive skills, 224 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,000 the angling guy's physicality and so on. You want to see him jump 225 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,879 into the play a little bit more. You want to see him deviate from 226 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,639 London's incredibly stupid breakouts. You want to see him actually l try plays and 227 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:35,840 stuff like that. London doesn't really do that overall. And then from a 228 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:41,000 projection standpoint, it's Sam Dickinson next year is going to be the guy who's 229 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,360 going to get all the offensive opportunities most likely, and that's going to eat 230 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:50,159 a little bit into a Bonx opportunity. With Logan Mayu going pro we were 231 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:54,000 hoping that Bonk would get that chance. Sam Dickinson has proven this past season 232 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,440 that he's a legit top prospect for twenty twenty four, and I think he 233 00:15:58,559 --> 00:16:03,039 might be number one, And Bonk might have a virtually identical season to the 234 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:07,080 one that he had playing the number two, number three, a little bit 235 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,759 of special teams, but not much flash, and so it's a safe, 236 00:16:10,799 --> 00:16:14,840 a boring pick. I think he's gonna play, but just not the type 237 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,879 of value that I'm looking at for a late first rounder. Of course, 238 00:16:17,919 --> 00:16:22,279 Philadelphia had an exciting draft overall, so it's hard to really hang this one 239 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:27,480 on them. Yeah, they sure did. They fell into one of the 240 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:32,679 best players in the draft. But we're not talking about Mitch cough but you 241 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,840 already mentioned the other guy we're gonna talk about London Knights. Easton Cowen might 242 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,399 have been the shock of the first round when I was there. Probably the 243 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,600 most audible gasps I heard was when the Maple Leafs took Cowen at twenty eighth 244 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:48,200 overall. You guys had him ranked sixty six. Some of the scouts I 245 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,679 talked to there suggested he was going in the next ten to fifteen picks. 246 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,879 Anyway, So maybe it wasn't that big of a reach. We don't really 247 00:16:55,879 --> 00:17:00,679 know that for sure, but he certainly didn't have that many points in terms 248 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,759 of what the raw number is fifty three points and sixty eight games. But 249 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,960 I know a lot of people mentioned his linear upward trajectory throughout the season and 250 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,519 through the playoffs. So if you believe that, maybe there's more there, 251 00:17:11,559 --> 00:17:15,599 but you're a little more conservative on Easton Cowan, what's your take on him? 252 00:17:17,279 --> 00:17:19,319 So personally I would have ranked him higher than where we ended up putting 253 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:25,680 him at a laite prospects. I think his motor is like exceptional, one 254 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,240 of the best in the entire draft, and this was a great draft for 255 00:17:27,279 --> 00:17:33,000 workers. He's physical, he has a little bit of a pest annoying side 256 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,559 to his game, and on top of that, the thing that separates him 257 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:40,279 from other sort of average skating smaller players is that he doesn't really rely on 258 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,319 skills or plays that he won't be able to make it the next level. 259 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,799 He doesn't really try to outscape people, he doesn't really try to dangle through 260 00:17:47,839 --> 00:17:49,960 everyone. He's more of a get open in the right place, move the 261 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,440 pocket at the right time, draw pressure cut back and so on and so 262 00:17:53,559 --> 00:17:59,240 forth. So I think he's a pretty translatable player. He definitely got the 263 00:17:59,319 --> 00:18:03,319 lundon nights, he definitely got the playoffs run bump. So those are two 264 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,720 things that are worth considering. And then from the leaf standpoint, I think 265 00:18:08,519 --> 00:18:14,039 they and other teams have done the trade back thing before, thinking that they're 266 00:18:14,039 --> 00:18:15,319 going to get their guy, and then they did not get their guy. 267 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,720 Colin obviously their guy for picking him a twenty eighth. Overall, it seems 268 00:18:21,799 --> 00:18:26,039 reasonable to pick him there if you really believe in him, And in that 269 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,880 sense I understand it. I just think you're picking you're leaving some value on 270 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,880 the table. Is he better than Grayson SuChin, who is a similar player 271 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,920 in that same archtype. I don't think so, So I would have preferred 272 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,920 to see them go that direction, or maybe the Bradley and a Doe direction, 273 00:18:40,039 --> 00:18:42,559 for just getting a guy who could potentially fill the net. I think 274 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:49,359 it's a relatively reasonable pick because obviously they see upside in him that other people 275 00:18:49,599 --> 00:18:55,359 don't, So in that case, they probably see him more as they do 276 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,839 it all up and down top nine winger, whereas I see him more as 277 00:18:59,839 --> 00:19:04,119 a third line guy. So in that case, and in that sense, 278 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,599 I get the pick. It was just one of those weird ones too, 279 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,240 because no one was talking about him really as a first round. I don't 280 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:15,279 know if any real public outlet had him as a first and generally, like 281 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:17,799 you, generally you have an idea guys that are going to go hire. 282 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,279 We knew all over Bonk was going to go higher than where most people in 283 00:19:19,319 --> 00:19:23,319 the public sphere had him writed, especially us who grappled with him like in 284 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:29,000 the seventies or whatever. So it was certainly an interesting one and I get 285 00:19:29,319 --> 00:19:32,920 I get through logic, I'm more sympathetic to it than say it the Nate 286 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,799 Danielson one. So yeah, that's It'll be interesting to see what happens next 287 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,440 year, that is for sure. The good news is he's going to a 288 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:45,039 situation in Toronto where I'm sure he'll be anonymous, that nobody will be paying 289 00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:48,279 attention to how things go with him. Yeah, no pressure him, no 290 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:53,720 pressure, a guy who I think, Wow, a guy who is probably 291 00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:56,359 also going to come in with the little less pressure. But for Reels, 292 00:19:56,799 --> 00:20:02,119 Zach Benson, we're going now moving into some guys who went too low by 293 00:20:02,319 --> 00:20:06,079 your estimation in this draft. And I think he's surprised, at least me, 294 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,400 he surprised many, falling to number thirteen to the Buffalo Sabers. A 295 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,000 reminder to listeners, he is a bit smaller at five to ten, which 296 00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:18,279 doesn't play as well with NHL gms. He played for the Winnipeg Ice last 297 00:20:18,319 --> 00:20:22,200 year, putting up ninety eight points in sixty games. Scouting reports from our 298 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,359 show have emphasized his intelligence and is polished. Just how good his game is 299 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,079 already. Where would you value Benson in this class, Mitch? If you 300 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,559 were looking for future scoring potential, how good will this guy be in the 301 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:41,640 NHL? I think he will be a top line scorer who can potentially challenge 302 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:48,119 for a salpe. Like we're talking about an insanely dynamic and insanely intelligent and 303 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,240 an incredibly hard working player, one of the best players that has come through 304 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:56,759 recent drafts. Like I'm taking him first overall in twenty twenty two, no 305 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,880 hesitation. We had him ranked fifth overall the Draft guide that I didn't even 306 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,480 write his profile, and the person who wrote his profile is like, this 307 00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:08,720 dude is a first overall caliber talent. And I think when you look at 308 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:15,039 Winnipeg last year, they had a bunch of top end talent. Savoy geeky. 309 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:18,279 First half the season, geek he looked really good. Why because he 310 00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:21,359 played with Benson. Savoy looks really good in the second half. Why does 311 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,519 that happen? Because he's playing with Benson. He elevates everyone around him, 312 00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:29,640 but yet still is the play driver. He's still the big fish. He's 313 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,680 the guy who can completely control the game. And I think more particularly when 314 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,079 you watch him, there isn't really anything that suggests he's not going to be 315 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,519 able to do it in the NHL, Like he might lose some of his 316 00:21:40,599 --> 00:21:42,880 effectiveness. Absolutely, but at the end of the day, he's not the 317 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,160 type of guy who's going to deak through an entire team. He's going to 318 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,359 get to puck, make a quick move, then offloaded to an open teammate. 319 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:52,359 He's the master of making these high paced, deceptive, manipulative plays where 320 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,200 he's bringing everyone towards him and then beating them and then on the Board's playmaking 321 00:21:57,279 --> 00:22:00,920 is the best in the draft class. Even if he loses twenty five percent 322 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,920 of that, he's still going to be the best in the draft class. 323 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,920 No one can make the plays through contact that he can so in a way, 324 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,119 he's more prepared for the NHL, certainly in that area than a lot 325 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:17,079 of bigger players are. Because, as we know size, being small can 326 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,400 be a disadvantage, it can also be an advantage. You can get lower 327 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,319 drive through players legs and so on and knock them off balance. And if 328 00:22:22,319 --> 00:22:26,400 you are bigger, that's not an automatic to being better along the boards. 329 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,640 You're more easily knocked off balance. You say you have a bigger reach, 330 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,880 so players can easily get underneath your stick and so on. So I think 331 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:41,839 in Benson's case, it's really just teams forgetting what has been working. Even 332 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:45,920 in the playoffs, Like Jonathan Marshastow, everyone wants to talk about how big 333 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,240 that Vegas team is, who was their best player in the playoffs? Everyone 334 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:52,839 wants to talk about Tampa Bay's towering blue line. Who is brightham point. 335 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,640 Well, there's a lot. There are a lot of different ways that I 336 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:03,480 think the anti Benson the size argument is easily refuted just by looking at what's 337 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,160 been happening in the NHL for the past few years. I think sometimes NHL 338 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,559 teams see what happens in the playoffs and they assume that has to be they 339 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:14,400 think all this team, they had a bunch of top and tall guys, 340 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,480 and it's yeah, they're tall and good, and also the best player on 341 00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:21,799 the team is five ten, so maybe try to pick the guy who's five 342 00:23:21,839 --> 00:23:26,079 ten and can be the best player on the team. I love Zak Benson, 343 00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:30,079 and I know we've talked to Joel Henderson, who follows WHL really well, 344 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,559 and last year we were talking about Winnipeg and he was talking about how 345 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,759 Zack Benson was many times the best player on the ice and that continued this 346 00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:41,519 year. He's just it's hard not to say so many good things about him, 347 00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:45,440 and super nice kid when I met him in person, really confident, 348 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,839 not in a cocky way either. Yeah, he's just really good. Let's 349 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,359 talk about another guy who's really good, and we already mentioned him or I 350 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:59,079 did. Quentin Musty. He went twenty six overall to the San Jose Sharks. 351 00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:03,440 You guys has had him ranked twelfth. It's also worth mentioning he's very 352 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,160 young for this draft class. I was at the Sharks development camp scrimmage a 353 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,599 couple of days ago Mitch and he basically was a star of the show. 354 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:14,559 It was his birthday actually, on July six, he had a hat trick 355 00:24:14,759 --> 00:24:18,680 pretty much upstage Will Smith in a really funny moment, later challenge Will Smith 356 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,839 to a fake fight because he slashed him on one of the plays that led 357 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,559 to a goal. It was pretty fun. But Musty seventy eight points in 358 00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:32,119 fifty three games for Sudbury. He just looks like a really strong late round 359 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,279 pick, late first round pick that probably should have gone a lot earlier. 360 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,359 Right, Yeah, absolutely, He's what six ft one in a bit, 361 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,400 He's got great hands. He added a physical side to his game later in 362 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,519 the season, the defense became a strength. He's got ankle breaking moves. 363 00:24:48,519 --> 00:24:52,480 He can shoot it off the pass like an Nhller. He can set up 364 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,559 teammates for high danger chances over and over again. He's got incredible confidence. 365 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:03,559 He's young. It's like, how does this guy go twenty sixth It doesn't 366 00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:06,440 make any sense to me. He's closer to a top ten pick than a 367 00:25:06,519 --> 00:25:11,079 late first round lean, a late first rounder all things considered. And the 368 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,880 interesting partament Musty two is that coming into the Ohl, he was more of 369 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,920 a shooter, and even last year he was more of a shooter, and 370 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,720 then this season he's playing with David go yet, so he takes on more 371 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,200 of a playmaking role. He's trying to set him up for scoring chances, 372 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,519 and oh suddenly he's one of the best playmakers in the entire CHL. He 373 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:32,039 was like an assist per game, and so we haven't even really seen the 374 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,720 full extent of his finishing ability. He's one of the best shooters in the 375 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:37,960 draft class. Like I said, he could really rip it off the pass, 376 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,920 which is what you're looking for NHL level shooting ability. So I just 377 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:48,039 I guess my thoughts on development camp analysis are it's stupid unless it's someone like 378 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,559 Musty being great and proving me right in the very short term, than yes, 379 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,640 I'm all for development camp analysis, but it really just ties into a 380 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,640 broader theme of Quentin Musty being really freaking good and not getting enough credit for 381 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,839 it. Yeah. I love someone put a tweet out that was like every 382 00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:10,720 prospect is amazing at development Camp and just recycles that tweet every single year because 383 00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:12,519 it's true, everyone looks amazing and you're like, this guy is gonna be 384 00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:17,279 the next coming of Sidney Crosby and then turns out he doesn't even play in 385 00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:19,000 the league or whatever. So, yeah, you're right, but there definitely 386 00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:23,119 are some sometimes you can overreact to things. But yeah, there are times 387 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,480 when you see things like that and you're like, how did this guy wait 388 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:32,559 till twenty six? And Will Smith who looked okay taking fourth overall? Like 389 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,720 he wasn't that exciting. I don't think that means anything necessarily, but Musty 390 00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:40,559 looking great? Yeah, it proves Mitch right. So that's that we're gonna 391 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,440 go with that in the short term. We'll see how wrong I will be 392 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,920 in the long term. But I just I have a difficult time grassman. 393 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,200 So even play in the LHL scores one and a half points per game in 394 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,480 the OH, who scores one and a half points per game in the OH 395 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,440 and goes twenty six? It's just not a thing that happens. It's just 396 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:03,680 so weird to me. Mentioned Grayson Sachen before as a guy who compared to 397 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,119 Toronto's first round pick in terms of an archetype. I believe if I caught 398 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,640 that. He was a forward for the Seattle Thunderbirds this year, and he 399 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:14,039 made the jump from the US national team development program to the WHL, put 400 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,680 up a point per game in his first chance there. Florida snagged him at 401 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,839 the end of the second round, another perceived value relative to where he was 402 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,880 picked. Talking about Joel Henderson again, he mentioned that he thought the production 403 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,160 was suppressed for Sauchin last year because of the way he was deployed on his 404 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,799 team. But what do you think about Sachin and the Cats. Is this 405 00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:38,480 guy going to go on to be a high scoring player and a strong forward 406 00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:45,400 for the Florida Panthers someday. Adeli Prospects we ranked him thirteenth overall, fully 407 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,759 acknowledging the risk of a point per game dude who played in a depth role 408 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:55,200 in the second half of the season largely now he was seemingly injured for a 409 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,359 lot of that playoff run, and in the first half of the season. 410 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,160 I actually thought that was where he played his best hockey. He was incredibly 411 00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:04,200 dynamic. He just didn't get all the points to show for it. I 412 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,640 think in a different environment, in a different system, say, if he 413 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,559 got Andrew Christall's freedom to do whatever he wants without fear, he probably would 414 00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:17,680 have had a much more productive first half of the season. In Stagin's case, 415 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,880 it's a combination of a few things. He's got some of the best 416 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,000 hands in the draft class. He's one of the most inside driven players that 417 00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:26,240 I've ever seen in the CHL. Absolutely fearless, and he's one hundred and 418 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:30,880 fifty pounds. Few players one hundred and fifty pounds two hundred and twenty pounds 419 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,839 can absorb and make plays through contact like he can. So he might always 420 00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:38,720 be a smaller guy in the NHL, but he's already prepared to make the 421 00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:42,160 same plays in the NHL that he does in junior. Add in the incredible 422 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,200 motor, add in the defense, and there's a lot of upside here. 423 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,680 I think NHL teams probably a little bit scared of how he played in the 424 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,119 second half, probably a little bit scared of the size, a little bit 425 00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:56,960 scared of the skating. I think the skating one is relatively valid because when 426 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,599 you look at puck protection in the NHL, you're trying to get your back 427 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,319 to the player. You're trying to initiate the turn with your outside edge that 428 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,640 will allow you to absorb contact, puts you in a more dynamic position. 429 00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:11,720 He does a lot of the inside edge turns, like when you're skating heel 430 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,640 to heal kind of thing. Then you just turn around and it stops you 431 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,680 in the same place where you start. You don't really have the same tightness 432 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:22,279 or exit velocity from it. And he doesn't do that a ton, or 433 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:26,880 he does that too much, So it's just some Maybe he's not perfectly translatable 434 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,480 in the current iteration of his game, but he showed a lot of skills 435 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:34,240 that should allow him to adapt. It was a bit of a risk putting 436 00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:37,559 him thirteenth overall, but in terms of just pure top end upside, like 437 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,200 I think you're looking at a guy who can play top sixth center in the 438 00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:47,119 NHL. It's just a few years away from really starting to get on that 439 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:52,279 path. Probably definitely. Nick Lardis is the next guy we're going to talk 440 00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:56,279 about. He went sixty seventh to Chicago. You guys had him ranked thirty 441 00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:00,160 third. Really young kid. Another one actually as we're recording, that's it's 442 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,960 a birthday, So happy birthday, Nick Lardis. I'm sure you're listening to 443 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:07,240 the show. And he had a lot of goals in the OHL twenty five 444 00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:12,200 goals for Hamilton of the OHL, and he also had twelve goals for Peterborough. 445 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,960 I guess I should mention so he split his time there, and he's 446 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,160 someone who I think got the Chicago got really good value. Obviously, coming 447 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,920 away with Bedard you're going to have a good draft no matter what. But 448 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,559 I think a lot of people were talking about this pick as being really sneaky 449 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,559 and one of the best scorers that that the OHL had so tell us about. 450 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,559 Nick lardis insanely fast, loves to take the puck to the net. 451 00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:41,160 He can rip it and score goals from the perimeter. The playmaking improved a 452 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,759 lot throughout the season, the pace improved a lot throughout the season. I 453 00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,079 think he's a little bit of a risky pick in the sense that we don't 454 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,240 fully know his skill level. It was only half the season where he was 455 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,160 a NHL Draft pick caliber. But on the other hand, he's the same 456 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:02,000 size as Brandon Jagger. He outscored Brandon Yeager buy a mile in the second 457 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,599 half of the season. You project them to do relatively the same things shooting, 458 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,920 powerplay, scoring, some defense. So why does one guy go fourteenth 459 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,400 and the other guy goes sixty seventh. It was a little bit of a 460 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,880 word one I thought personally, and I think in Lardus's case, again, 461 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,559 there is the risk because we don't really know, but he was a top 462 00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:25,000 guy coming into the OHL. He was a fifth overall pick. He has 463 00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:30,000 the resume. He has a lot of interesting elements to his game from that 464 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,400 will support the scoring game, not just the speed, but also how he 465 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,759 improved his playmaking and how he's able to get open inside space and so on. 466 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:42,559 So I think Chicago was looking at a potential top six, second, 467 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:48,599 maybe third line score depending on how things go tremendous. Let's take a short 468 00:31:48,640 --> 00:32:05,759 break, come back and talk more with Mitch Brown. Mitch, the next 469 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:08,559 guy we want to talk about is Caden Price, the defenceman who slipped to 470 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:12,920 the late third to the Seattle cracking. He was a Colonna Rocket last year, 471 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,119 is still almost two months from his eighteenth birthdays. We recorded today, 472 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,079 put up forty points and sixty five games, in addition to five assists in 473 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:27,839 seven games for Canada's UA teen World Junior's team and five points in five games 474 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,319 at the Gretzky Olinka. Not bad for a defenceman. We broadcast some of 475 00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:36,559 his draft scrum talk on our episode a couple of weeks ago, as well 476 00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:39,359 as some very positive talk from Seattle officials on getting him at this point in 477 00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:45,200 the draft and some of his potential offensive upside. Price himself said he played 478 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,160 through injuries last year and he he really takes pride in playing a two way 479 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,079 game. What makes Price of value in your eyes in this draft and what 480 00:32:54,200 --> 00:33:00,720 you think is the eventual role that he's going to have. So he's one 481 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,799 of the best playmaking defensemen in the entire draft class. You see it on 482 00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:09,400 the breakout where he's very good at drawing pressure, evading it, passing through 483 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,960 it, starting the rush, and from the offensives own blue line. He 484 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,279 can pull off all sorts of dazzling moves, but it's really about how he 485 00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:20,680 can move through a pass reception, head up the entire time, and then 486 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,079 spot a teammate creeping down the far post. He's also a relatively solid rush 487 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:28,799 defender too, So at all those things in and there's little doubt that he 488 00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:32,240 has middle pairing upside. It's just that his game to game performance, shift 489 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,000 to shift performance was so volatile, maybe the most inconsistent player I've seen in 490 00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:42,519 quite some time. There were some games where he's ripping backdoor passes that you've 491 00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:45,400 never seen coming, and then there are other games where he's scared to touch 492 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,079 the puck. So the injuries certainly play a point. But he's always been 493 00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:53,400 a player who has some volatility to his game. Part of that is the 494 00:33:53,480 --> 00:34:00,440 skating. He can be elusive and so on, but without exceptional explosive or 495 00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:05,039 speed, his game has to rely more on deception and craft and timing and 496 00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:07,320 so on, and if one of those things isn't working, then the rest 497 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,800 of his game seems to fall apart. So if he can fix that confidence, 498 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,079 if he can not let mistakes compound, he'll play. He'll play in 499 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:19,039 the NHL. Like I said, in middle pairing upside, but there's a 500 00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:21,880 lot of work to do. I really like that by Seattle, who continues 501 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,280 to have one of the funnest and most interesting draft strategies in the entire league. 502 00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:30,679 That's a good way to describe it, for sure. So the next 503 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,119 guy we're going to talk about, Luca Cagnoni, fell all the way down 504 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,960 one hundred and twenty third overall, But pretty cool for a guy who did 505 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:43,159 not get drafted into the WHL to get drafted into the NHL. Even though 506 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,920 he was a fourth round selection. He was a thirty second d off the 507 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:52,920 board. You guys at ep Ringside had hardly had thirty two better players ranked 508 00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:57,280 than Cagnoni, because you had him thirty fourth. He's only five nine, 509 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,360 so I'm sure that's a big part of why he fell. But any three 510 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:05,079 pounds, it's pretty stout and nearly a point per game at the Portland Winner 511 00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:09,840 Hawks of the WHL sixty four points in sixty seven games. Yeah, I 512 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,559 guess I could throw in my two cents about what he looked like at the 513 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,360 prospects scrimmage. He definitely had some pretty good awest offensive moves, but he 514 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,920 looked average or a little worse defensively in terms of playing against some of those 515 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,079 bigger players. So that's the concern I think is how is he going to 516 00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:30,239 hold up because as he grows in levels and hopefully plays professional hockey's gonna have 517 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,880 to play against much bigger players. So is that a concern for CACNOONI. 518 00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:37,840 You guys obviously seem to really like him there. Yeah, it's absolutely a 519 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,840 concern, and I think to his credit late in the season he really improved 520 00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:45,400 of rush defense. He was on guys earlier poking away pucks, going shoulder 521 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:50,880 to chest and knocking away plays a lot faster, So I think in that 522 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,320 sense, the rush defense could be his strength. And as we see with 523 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,400 smaller defenseman in the NHL, you either have to be insanely dynamic or you 524 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,480 can take the Matt Rizzlock route, where you're just very good at breaking up 525 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,360 plays before they get to the blue line and then making the first pass to 526 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,280 escape the zone. So Cagnoni has a lot of different directions that his game 527 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,000 can go, and all of them will be valuable players in the NHL provided 528 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,079 he continues to tighten his decision making. He's one of the most dynamic players 529 00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:21,639 in the entire draft from a playmaking standpoint and from an activation standpoint. So 530 00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:24,320 this was a really nice pickup for San Jose one hundred and twenty third overall 531 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:30,760 for that level of talent. With shocking, let's go even deeper into the 532 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:36,159 draft, because the last of these guys who you saw as a significant value 533 00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:40,199 in this draft really fell. Connor Levis, a sixty one centerman. He 534 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:45,480 went number two hundred and ten in the seventh round to the Winnipeg Jets. 535 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,159 You can't accuse NHL teams of just scouting the stat line because he had sixty 536 00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:53,599 seven points and sixty eight games for the Kamloops Blazers last year. What's the 537 00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:58,400 catch? What happened with Connor Levis? And why do you think that he 538 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,480 ought to have been picked higher? And he was Mitch so skating and he 539 00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:06,880 was a little rough and down the stretch for a variety of reasons. But 540 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,800 at the end of the day, he just wasn't good enough to maintain his 541 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,000 status in the NHL circles. Now, the reason to believe in him is 542 00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:19,000 that he's an incredibly crafty playmaker off the boards. Skating is not an advantage 543 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,039 for him, So what does he do. He sneaks away, gets the 544 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:25,320 puck, rips it to the inside to an open teammate. We see a 545 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:30,400 lot more dynamic stuff from him in flashies. He's not really a puckhandler, 546 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,280 but he knows how to attack the inside. He knows how to shoot, 547 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,800 he knows how to get open and then fire, and so he's a little 548 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,519 bit of a specialist. He's ther fourth line playmaker guy who can do some 549 00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:45,119 cool stuff in the playoffs for you. But if he can improve any of 550 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,719 those individual skills just a little bit more, then you're looking at a player 551 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,719 who can maybe crack a third line role, maybe get say, traded for 552 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,159 way too much at the trade deadline. So I thought this was a really 553 00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:00,719 interesting one. I personally thought he was going to go second a third round, 554 00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:06,800 So those are some good late round steals move up your fantasy draft board. 555 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,159 Then I asked you, Mitch, about just some of your personal favorite 556 00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:14,960 guys to talk about, and the first one we already mentioned his name, 557 00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:19,840 matt Vey Mitchkoff, seventh overall to Philly. The Philly the era of the 558 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,800 Flyers with Danny Brier at the Helm is a new era. It's exciting to 559 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,519 see. We thought he'd fall on draft day. I'm not sure everyone thought 560 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:30,280 he'd go there, but it seems like he maneuvered his way to end up 561 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,679 in Philly, which I think is interesting. And we've heard a lot about 562 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,920 Mitchkoff this year, but I really want to hear you talk about matt Vey 563 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,119 Mitchkoff. What do you like about him so much? So for me, 564 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,840 this pick is really about Philadelphia more than it is about Mishkov, because I 565 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,239 think it's signaled a couple of things. First, is that they're taking a 566 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,320 guy who more than more likely than not, they're not going to see in 567 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,639 their lineup for three years, which this is great. Philadelphia needs to burn 568 00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:58,880 it to the ground. This is perfect. You burn it to the ground 569 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,159 three years time. This dude comes over and right away he's probably a top 570 00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:06,639 six wayer for you. So it solidifies their timeline. And on top that 571 00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:13,360 that Philadelphia was willing to take him signified that the error of the Flyer's drafting 572 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,719 stupid is over look. I don't love the Oliver Bonk pick, but the 573 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:22,960 rest of that draft was good. Like they added Biarnison, they added Denver 574 00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:25,440 Barky, which was a real nice pickup. In the third. Cole Canoebal 575 00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:30,440 was a solid pickup in the Barquey mold. Alex Sheernick is all paced. 576 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,000 There's a real chance that he doesn't play, but just the chance you can 577 00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:36,559 add a player with that level of speed, that level of skill on the 578 00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:40,119 fourth is great. Carter Southern is a big, creative defenseman, very much 579 00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:45,559 in the Trevis Sanhai mold. So there's they that pick really set the stage. 580 00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:49,920 And I think when you're looking at from an outside perspective or even as 581 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,320 a Philadelphia Flyers fan, the Matthew Meach coop signifies at the beginning of a 582 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:59,920 new era in Philadelphia, one that's emphasizing skill, speed and isn't a phrase 583 00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:04,519 to pick smaller players at the expensive size, and isn't afraid to take some 584 00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:07,639 risks. And I think that's really it. That's what you want, especially 585 00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:12,159 in this situation in Philadelphia where your team has been caught in the middle for 586 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:19,639 so long. Man Dan Brier is a rock star lately. He's really done 587 00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,559 great things since he's come to the Philadelphia Flyers. Next up of the guys 588 00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:28,039 that you really like, matthew Wood. Barry Trots's first pick for the Nashville 589 00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:31,320 Predators was a big forward who had nearly a point per game in Yukon as 590 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,400 the youngest player in the NCAA, No big deal. He had almost a 591 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,280 goal and an assist per game and seven contests for Canada at the U eighteens 592 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,679 that culminated in a four point championship win over Slovakia, including two assists to 593 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:51,800 Maclan. Celebrity ever heard of him? One was on the overtime championship winner. 594 00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:55,320 What makes matthew Wood special and what kind of statistical profile do you think 595 00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,840 he will eventually put for the Preds. But let's go back to that play 596 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,119 the overtime winner, because I think it really explains Matthew woods game. When 597 00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:07,440 he comes in, he told rags and then he realizes, Oh, I 598 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,639 can't beat this dude, So then he just makes a little soft touch pass 599 00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:14,400 into space for his teammate to pick up and finish the playoff. And that's 600 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:19,800 what makes Wood such an interesting player. It's that he's very aware that he's 601 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,599 slow, so he weaponizes it. He draws in players and then at the 602 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:29,320 very last possible second, he feathers that puck to an open teammate. I 603 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,599 think we had him ranked fifteenth or sixteen, so this was right about his 604 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:36,119 range. It wasn't insane value by any stretch of the imagination. But I 605 00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:39,840 like the fit with Nashville. I think he gives them another dynamic scoring option. 606 00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:44,760 And of course there's a chance that he's just there's a chance that you 607 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,920 get you hit a Grand Slam with him, because he's so smart, he's 608 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:52,920 so skilled. Every small step in his game will improve every other aspect of 609 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,360 his game. So you can look at it as, oh, he'll never 610 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,920 play if his skitting doesn't improve, But what if it improves half step? 611 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,960 That's top six forward easily with a bullet and so I'd really like to fit 612 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,119 there. And again I like the Nashville is drapped overall, like Melendix, 613 00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:13,760 Felix Nielsen, Callen Lynn Keiskin in King of Violence, Dylan McKinnon, Joey 614 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,400 Willis. This was a real solid class all around for Nashville, and it 615 00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:22,000 signifies I think a little bit of a change in how they're selecting players and 616 00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:24,480 slin and I think this is I think the new era in Nashville is off 617 00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:31,079 to a great start, all right. Moving back to the Tonto Maple Leafs 618 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:36,639 at one hundred and eighty fifth overall, they took Noah Chadwick six foot, 619 00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:39,320 four hundred and eighty seven pound left handed d at of Lethbridge in the WHL. 620 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,880 Didn't score a lot, just twenty points in sixty seven games. You 621 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,360 guys had him ranked one hundred and thirty seconds, so they got him a 622 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:51,800 bit later than projected. I don't really know much about him, Mitch, 623 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,480 So why is he one of your favorites? Because he's a player who you 624 00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:59,280 look at the stat line and you look at his size, and you assume 625 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,599 one thing and you watch him, but he's very much. Not that. 626 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,039 Do you think, oh he's big defensive defenseman, he can't defend. He 627 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,639 is an offensive playmaker from the blue line and in one of the most creative 628 00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:14,800 players in the WHL. He sees lanes developing that very few players do. 629 00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:19,119 He tries to deek off the point like cal mccar He sets up chances that 630 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,039 very few players have the confidence to pull off. And that's really the angle 631 00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:25,639 here. At six foot four, When you can set up chances like that, 632 00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:29,840 do you have a ton upside for him and will come down to skating 633 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,000 improving the defense significantly. But I like this swing a lot. It was 634 00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:37,119 I didn't expect him to get drafted and to see him go to the Maple 635 00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:40,159 Leafs, a team that has had success with with say, poor skating players, 636 00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:44,440 poor defending players, and helping them improve just that little bit more. 637 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,000 I think this was a good fit and it was nice to see a player 638 00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:54,760 who is understated by the production get rewarded like this. The next one of 639 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,920 your favorites is a bit of a smuggle, but will allow it. Anaheim's 640 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:07,320 Day two selections mostly Colson Petrie, Ride Wins, Dionicio, and Voytech port 641 00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:12,039 in just recapping quickly, Anaheim picked course of the first pick in rounds. 642 00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:15,559 He got Petre the top of the third round, a point per game right 643 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:21,039 winger from the Flint Firebirds. Dionicio, a Windsor Spitfire defenseman who went in 644 00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:23,239 the fifth round after forty three points and thirty three games in the OHL, 645 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,239 as well as he was part of the Swiss U twenty World Junior Championship team, 646 00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:31,480 and Port started off the sixth round, a check defenseman playing in the 647 00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:36,840 Wahl's Edmonton Oil Kings didn't score a ten last year, but reviews say the 648 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,159 offense may not be a zero. Nonetheless, why did you love Anaheim's draft? 649 00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:45,360 Mitch so? I like the CARLSONO or Fantilly thing. I wouldn't have 650 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,199 done it personally, but I think that's fun. And then their Day two 651 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,599 start off with Niko Miyanovic, who I do not value in that spot at 652 00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:53,239 all, and I was like, oh boy, what's Annaheim doing? And 653 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,440 then they started winning me over again, as Anaheim often does. They always 654 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,719 have one or two weird ones, and I'm like, what are they thinking? 655 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:05,360 And then they just keep adding talent like Coulson Pietra. Okay, bring 656 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,760 it back a little bit. Anaheim likes their tall but relatively lanky players, 657 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,000 hoping that they can fill out and doing that will allow them to become more 658 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,840 effective players. Over all. This as an archetype they have valued in the 659 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:21,559 Martin Madden years for forever now and me add fits that for sure. But 660 00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:24,639 Pietra just do it as a wrecking ball any skin. So you hope that 661 00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:28,400 he's gonna add some weight and the way that he plays, he's gonna become 662 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,599 even more violent. He's gonna become even more effective, and he's got a 663 00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:35,079 ton of skill. I thought that was a fun one. Denizio I had 664 00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:37,719 a Twitter thread about him, even though I'm vehemently opposed to the idea of 665 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:44,119 Twitter threads, He's one of them. Okay, He's incredibly unique. There 666 00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:47,079 isn't another player like him. He's he sets up scoring chances like a forward, 667 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:52,679 He sees the game like a forward. He even played forward for Windsor 668 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,199 for a little bit, which is the position he played growing up. And 669 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,679 he was better than Shane Wright. Like they put him on. They put 670 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,159 him on their first line and then he was the play driver. So it 671 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,800 just goes to show you how interesting of a player he is this game will 672 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,119 happen, prove though, and then port He's not the let's say, the 673 00:46:08,559 --> 00:46:13,639 classic sort of breakout player. He didn't score much. If you watch him 674 00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:16,400 that he might not be the most exciting player, but as you continue to 675 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:21,519 accumulate viewings, you start realizing or picking up on the patterns, and he 676 00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:24,880 does all of the things needed to become a more dynamic player in time. 677 00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:29,000 And of course he's a little bit on the thinner side six foot two one 678 00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:32,519 seven d ish and so fits the Anaheim Duck's archetype. They're a team that 679 00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:38,159 values size that continually picks the best players within that archetype, which is something 680 00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:44,920 I enjoy, all right. Another guy, Jeremy Henzel, double overageer taken 681 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,960 one hundred and eighty seventh by Avalanche by the Avalanche fe nearly two hundred pounds 682 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,400 forty eight points in sixty six games for the Seattle Thunderbirds, who I'm still 683 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,840 shocked did not win the Memorial Cup with how well they played in the WHL. 684 00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:00,639 But he, unless I'm reading the guide wrong, you guys didn't rank 685 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:06,920 him, So I guess why is Jeremy Hanzel one of your favorites? We 686 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,079 ranked him as a player that should be picked somewhere in the third to fifth 687 00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:13,599 round, so he gave him a C grade, So in that sense, 688 00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:16,719 we ranked him. But in Hansel's case, we ranked him in his draft 689 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:22,280 here, so two years ago when he was a non scoring, can't defend 690 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,559 player, and then in the playoffs of this year he became Seattle's number one, 691 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,719 their go to shutdown guy, one of the best defensive defenders in the 692 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,320 entire WHL. So that's some incredible growth right there. And then you add 693 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,639 the fact that he's still the same deceptive, creative playmaker that I valued in 694 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,599 his draft here, and for me, it was just very cool to see 695 00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:47,119 another guy who we had ranked years ago finally hear his name called because his 696 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:52,599 development just was steady and he continued to improve until he was out playing Kevin 697 00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:57,559 Koarkschinsky, who went seventh overall to Chicago last year. And I can't think 698 00:47:57,559 --> 00:48:01,480 of a better fit stylistically in the Colorado Avalanche, the team that is the 699 00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:07,280 masters of getting their defenseman into the play Hey korchynsky Stock went up a bit 700 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,199 last year by all accounts. Last guy we had on this list, Jimmy 701 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,199 Clark one of your favorites of one of the final picks in the draft by 702 00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:19,559 the Minnesota Wild. Bark is a reasonable size forward who's played in the USHL 703 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,840 the last couple of years and conveniently is headed across town from the Wild to 704 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:28,000 play NC for the Golden Gophers this fall. What do you expect from Jimmy 705 00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:31,119 Clark and why is this guy one of your favorites in the draft? So 706 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:37,159 I just love the fact that Minnesota picked a Minnesota kid who's going to Minnesota. 707 00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:39,400 First off, this is the Minnesota Wild that really know what they're doing 708 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,559 here. I respect this a lot. As The second part of it is 709 00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:45,800 that early in the season I thought he was just a hard worker, just 710 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,440 a hard worker, but busy b type, a guy who might be able 711 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,199 to make it the very bottom of your lineup, twelve thirteenth forward type. 712 00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:55,079 By the end of the season, he was one of the best playmakers in 713 00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:59,840 the USHL. We're not talking just setting up chances. We're talking in the 714 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,519 manipulating opponents, drawing pressure, passing through it, playing with pace, playing 715 00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:07,880 to the middle. So all these things that I expect to translate, I 716 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,079 think there's a he has a long way to go, the skin will have 717 00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:13,840 to improve. He's going to have to improve his ability to play with back 718 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,239 pressure and specific so that's a key skill for being the playmaker in the NHL. 719 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,039 But he's going to a school that encourages the type of passes and playmaking 720 00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:27,840 that he does. In Minnesota, a team that loves those East West lateral 721 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,159 playbuilding type setups, and so I really like the fit there. I think 722 00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:37,400 with Minnesota it's a great seventh round flyer. Lots of teams who are just 723 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,239 like, Hey, who's the next tall guy available? In Minnesota's who's the 724 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:44,679 next high skill guy available? So really like that one. All right, 725 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,480 Mitch, that is our list. That's some great information on a lot of 726 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,719 these draft picks. Why don't you let people know? As though they don't 727 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,480 know already, Mitch? But where can they keep up with your work? 728 00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:57,960 You've got a lot of the best stuff going on out there for the draft. 729 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,519 You can follow me on the soon to be dead Twitter at Mitchell Brown 730 00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:07,320 dot com. That's Mitchel Brown, and I'm on threads at Mitch Brown Hockey. 731 00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:12,920 I guess I'll start cross posting stuff there at some point when I work 732 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,960 up the curush to actually open up the app again, we live in a 733 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,960 stupid time, and then headepe ringside dot com. We have a lot of 734 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,840 content on the draft. We have some more fun stuff coming. We have 735 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,519 our Draft guide if you still want to get caught up on all your favorite 736 00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:29,760 players and your favorite team who they drafted him and so on. And our 737 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,079 YouTube page. We have a lot of breakdowns on some players and we have 738 00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:35,960 a few more coming. You're an Anaheim Ducks fan, we might have an 739 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,159 Olan zel Legger one coming up. We might have an Oliver more coming up. 740 00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:45,119 So pretty exciting time to be in the elite prospects ecosystem. Yeah, 741 00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:46,920 I'm probably gonna have to give Mark Zuckerberg all my data back. I was 742 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,079 trying to get away from it, but I think it's too late. Death 743 00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:53,400 Threads is coming for us and we'll see about that. But anyway, Mitch, 744 00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:57,360 wherever it is, we're going to have to join it to keep up 745 00:50:57,519 --> 00:51:00,480 with your stuff because you got great ones out there. Thank you for coming 746 00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:04,679 on our show and talking NHL Draft with us. Thanks a lot, Jesse, 747 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:13,320 and thanks that jo I really appreciate your time. A reminder, and 748 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,039 don't you forget it. Our show is brought to you by fan Tracks. 749 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,119 You can move your leagues over there. You can ask them, they'll help 750 00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:21,440 you do it. You can start new ones. You should start new ones. 751 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,119 They have the most options for scoring, for salaries, for contracts. 752 00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:29,719 You can customize everything you want in terms of eligibility, scoring set in. 753 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,159 There's hundreds of them, and leagues are ready to be set up today if 754 00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:36,719 you want to do it. They even have a good chat feature. A 755 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,159 lot of platforms aren't doing that so much anymore. I'm getting trade offers sometimes 756 00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:45,199 on the Fantracks chat and it alarms me every time I do. But I 757 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,920 get in there and I respond. Fantrak's HQ has lots of fantasy content as 758 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,360 well, articles on fantasy hockey. There's some new writers there, and all 759 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:59,239 the other fantasy sports podcasts, including The Prospect Pod and Full Count Fantasy Baseball, 760 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:05,280 the Live Fantasy Football, and the Fantasy Hoops Fantasy Basketball. We think 761 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,920 our producer Nate Duffett, who's been helping out with show Prep. We're also 762 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:13,000 brought to you by Dabber Hockey and Dabber Prospects. Victor is an editor there, 763 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,840 as you've heard follow us work there. His other podcast, Dauber Prospect 764 00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:23,320 Report with Peter Harling is some great listening for those following prospects. I also 765 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:29,119 do a solo show called Dynasty Sports Life. I talk for different Dynasty Sports 766 00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:32,199 sometimes many of them at the same time. And this week I've got Chris 767 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,840 Blessing of baseball hq dot com, one of the very biggest and oldest fantasy 768 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:43,119 baseball websites, and Chris goes and does a lot of in person scouting and 769 00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:47,000 he's got some great insights on some of the prospects who are getting our attension 770 00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:52,719 in fantasy baseball this year. Follow Victor and myself on Twitter at fan Hockey 771 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:58,400 Life at Victor Nuno twelve viic t O r n U n O one two. 772 00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:02,760 If you follow us, if you retweet this episode, if you rate 773 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,400 and a review as five stars, and give us a nice review, and 774 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,920 then take take some shots, take some screenshots of all that, or just 775 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:15,480 draw our attention to it, send it to Victor or myself and that way 776 00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:17,800 we will enter you in a drawing. It is going to be drawn for 777 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,599 it July nineteenth, that's coming up pretty soon. And let me tell you, 778 00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:23,480 you've got pretty good chance as a winner if you do this. It's 779 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,440 not it's not like the publisher's clearinghouse. Folks. You got a pretty good 780 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,920 chance if you enter. We don't have all that many entries here, so 781 00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:35,360 please enter, Please do all those nice things. Thank you for listening to 782 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,920 thank you to Mitch Brown for being on this one, and until next time, 783 00:53:37,039 --> 00:53:43,000 good luck and keep living that fantasy hockey life.