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Now one of your pudding. I
got a string going on here, something

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just cause my dog. Something killed
your dog? My dog. We're flying

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through the or over the tree.
I don't know how it did it,

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Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming

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over the fence and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like,

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I didn't see any cars. All
I saw was my dog coming over

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the fence. Sat what are you
putting? We got some wonder or something

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crawling around out here? Did you
see what it was? Or was it

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was? Standing enough? I'm out
here looking through the window now and I

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don't see anything. I don't want
to go outside. Jesus, Quice you

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better New York. Hello, get
somebody out here. What quen on out

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there? I thought of a bit
of about six nine. I don't know.

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Easy him out there. Yeah,
I'm walking right head. Greetings from

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Alaska. My named spread Roll Curry, young trouble member from Delleham, Alaska.

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Today, I want to share an
experience that happened with Eric s.

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He agreed to be interviewed. It's
just not going to happen until later on

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once I'm closer to the area he's
at It was near Campwell off the Dnaley

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Highway where this particular encounter happened with
Eric and his fiance at the time.

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Unfortunately they're no longer engaged. What
ended up happening is he had been going

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to the spot for twenty four years, every year, same time of year.

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Never had an issue ever, not
even weird Alho's none of that stuff

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to standard Alaskan critters, no big
deal. Since he's freshly engaged at this

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point, he decided, you know
what, I've been doing this, it's

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a passion. I'm going to bring
her in on it and get her laced

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up. Basically, get her on
board with his yearly routine. He's used

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to spending a couple of weeks every
year out there just doing his saying,

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not necessarily hunting, but getting out
backpacking, exploring the area, trying to

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photograph wildlife, caribou, et cetera. Just outdoorsy stuff. Not necessarily out

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to kill anything, although he was
armed rightfully at Alaska, everything wants to

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get shipped. They make it out. They're just south of the Dnnaley Highway

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and on the motorized side. What
ends up happening is they get there,

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they get set up, no issues. First couple of nights, it's great.

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She's really digging his Alaskan lifestyle.
Now he's an import. He's not

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originally, he's not First Nations,
but in Alaskan. To me, if

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you've been up here for a few
years and you've gone through the winter bs,

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you're in Alaskan. Yeah. But
anyway, I'm trying to put my

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mine's eye in his situation. So
he's got this new bee to the woods.

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I think she was originally from Connecticut, used to the woods there,

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non issue. So first couple of
nights, it's nothing. They're going to

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hike. The third morning. They're
on this hike, and they've already hiked

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that place five six times already the
last couple of days because they just go

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out for an hour at a time
or so, just kind of stay close

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to camp. The bears were on
the move, so they didn't want to

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necessarily be out too much, but
they didn't want to just sit there on

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their excursion. Just as they were
getting away from camp, just out of

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sight, third morning, they hear
a long, moaning groan. It sounded

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like something really big, basically,
sobbing is what he said. It sounded

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like and he said it couldn't have
been too far away, but they couldn't

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pinpoint exactly where because where they were
at there was a bunch of trees wrapped

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around. They couldn't pinpoint because of
how things were egging around in this little

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quasi meadow. He figured safe bet
get back to camp. He didn't bring

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his firearm with them on the excursions, is Beyonce was against him. He

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gets back to camp, he gets
his firearm out and leans it against the

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little makeshift table they had there,
and they started making breakfast. The moaning

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ruin their morning. They go on
about their way, and it'd been about

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he said, three hours past.
Now it's plenty daylight. It's not dark

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and menacing or anything, but all
the sound goes away, he said it

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was. He was struggling to even
hear the crackload the little fire they had

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going to boil up to make some
cowboy coffee. Having dealt with that pressure

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that just kills all sound. It's
different. Some people have experienced it,

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some haven't. Those who haven't.
It's very You recognize it immediately, but

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you don't know what it is.
You just know it's provoking some kind of

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fear. He said. When that
happened, he was in the middle of

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packing up or cleaning up some of
the utensils that they had made their breakfast

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with just a little bit ago,
and so he assumed, what's probably a

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bear smell breakfast is coming in,
and they had prepackaged all their food just

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to basically warm it up. But
it's still put the scent of the food

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in here, you know. It's
not like he was out there frying,

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bake it over and open flame or
anything like that. So he gets cleaning

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stuff up and keeping an eye on
and telling her, hey, just listen

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for any strange movements in the woods. We want to be bear aware.

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So she puts on these little bells
on her ankles that jingle when they walk.

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I call them dinner bells for bears, but anyway, people use them

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and they swear bioletic labert. Here's
the bell it takes off. She gets

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those on, they're still a rounde
camp and letting's two ominous. At this

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point, he doesn't even have Bigfoot
Harryman, Sasquath, whatever you want to

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call it, on his mind.
It never, not once in the twenty

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something years he's been going to this
place, has it ever been an issue

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that happens for a lot of people. They go year after year, never

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had an experience. You could tell
them your experience and they'd be like,

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to ha been out there twenty something
years. Ain't not never happen and you're

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full of it. That type of
thing, which is me to each his

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own. If some people, if
they haven't seen it, they won't accept

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it, and I respect that.
I get that. As they're sitting there

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and he's trying to explain to her, Hey, it's very important that you

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beyond your wits when it comes to
the woods because if there's a bar circling

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when we don't see it, it
may come after you. It may view

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you as the weaker of the tube
since you're smaller, and pounce on you.

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So be aware of that. And
his fiance wasn't having none of that

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shit. She was like, screw
that on no one's meal. Well,

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let's go. It was like,
look, okay, I don't want to

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call it a trip though, Let's
just move somewhere else. She goes,

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okay, we'll move somewhere else.
So they pack everything up, weird feelings,

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a side or whatever. They decide
we'll just go down we'll go down

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to Swede Lakes, which is further
down the din Naley Highway going forwards Packson,

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not too far from the Volcano River
incident. Coincidentally, same area.

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You got to go the same direction
to get there. There's multiple trails,

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but the main ones from that gravel
parking lot where the guy ran out of.

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So they make it to Sweet Lakes
a little later on, just it

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was going on dusk, so they
had enough time. They set up and

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camped out in that parking lot.
The first night uneventful, talking to people

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coming and going, photographers whatnot,
having a great time. She lose.

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She calmed back down, was telling
everyone all there was a barrier further upwards.

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Camp well, so we skiditled down
here. And that was suffice both

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of them because they really didn't have
any anything to go on outside of that.

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Now it's quite it's quite a distance
that they went from where they were

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to Sweet Lakes, no visual,
no confirmation on whatever was going on in

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his original spot, the same spot
he had been going to for twenty something

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years. Bear aware. Whatever.
They continue out. The next morning,

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they make it to Sweet Lakes,
and once you get back there, it's

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hard to explain that she'd been there. There's a part of the trail that

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kind of has the weird kind of
zigzag to it, and over the years

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people have made little campsite areas,
and so they picked one of those,

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about one hundred and fifty yards from
the main part of the lake. Is

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this is what he's saying. So
they get set up and it's going on

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into getting dark, and so they
got a good fire going and everything's going

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great. She's calmed down from the
bare things. She no longer wants to

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run away from the woods. It's
his fiance. He doesn't want her to

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not like the woods because then he
knows he has to make it out every

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year, and that's just going to
create some kind of tension. So he's

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very happy she's back in it,
and they get their fire going and everything's

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calmed down. They're enjoying some adult
beverages and just relaxing and enjoying. Man,

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it's beautiful, from what he was
saying, was beautiful out and they

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were just enjoying the evening. On
the far side of the lake, they

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hear that same groaning, moaning type
of sound, same tight, not exactly

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the same, he said it was
a little higher pitched, but it was

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similar in rhythmic. Oh, however, the sound went so that immediately peaud

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both their interests because they just left
the campsite that they were at because of

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this noise and the weird feeling.
So they're trying to figure out what's going

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on with these weird noises. We're
way over there and now we're hearing some

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similar over here. This was late
August twenty seventeen is when this occurred.

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They're discussing with each other, Hey, what what do you think this could

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possibly be. One of the other
campers that was a little further down,

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he said, was walking by going
to get something because the people were parked

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their four wheelers up. He was
going to resupply with something, and he

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asked, hey, did you notice
that sound across the lake? And he

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goes, yeah, it's been going
on for a couple of days now.

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We went looking for it earlier today. We couldn't pinpoint where the noise was

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covered from, but every time we
would leave the area, we would hear

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it again, and some thought none
of it. Okay, So these guys

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have been here unmolested for a couple
of days with this going on so we're

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good, we're safe. They continue
around the campfire, they're doing their thing,

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they're getting the feeling good, and
behind their campsite about he said,

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less than seventy feet, he would
guesstimate they heard a big crack crack that

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immediately cut their attention, and it
was such a loud crack that the camper's

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further down. The same guy that
they had seen came back that direction a

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little while later, asking hey,
what was that noise? We heard that

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crack way over there, and they're
like, yeah, it was about seventy

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feet back there, and the guy
was like, hey, why don't we

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go check it out to make sure
that it's not a rogue bear, young

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male, little four year old just
out causing trouble. We could be prepared

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running off now before we're in bad
early does it? Yeah, I'm game.

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So he gets his rifle and his
fiance wants none of this shit.

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She is like dead set against him
basically trying to run off a potential issue.

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She's dead set against it, and
he's not feeling that at all.

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He feels there's going to be some
problems because she's not outdoorsy and she's very

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susceptible to freak out, and rightfully, she doesn't y know Alaska. She's

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not accustomed to this stuff. So
him and this guy, Eric and this

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guy they go and they check out
the area. It's all in the dark,

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so they're using their flashlights and the
one guy had a spotlight and they're

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going through and they're looking and there's
nothing to miss, and then they find

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a broken birch sapling was actually it
was about three inch in diameter ands it.

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Birch is a hardwood, So this
tree was alive and about six feet

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up it it was broke like someone
broke it down and it was laid out.

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So they're sitting there inspecting it,
like, wow, you know that

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bear must have just stood up on
it and pushed or something and knocked it

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over. They heard that groaning noise
again, that's not bare, but it's

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between them and Eric's tant now it
was real low, real subtle, but

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they both heard it. Now they
both turn around and they don't want to

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have to fire in that direction,
so they start flanking to their left so

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if they do have to shoot at
a bear that they thought they wouldn't have

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his tent, his campsite, as
a back crossfire in the backdrop that type

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of thing, which a very smart
thing to do. So they're cutting around

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to the left and that noise is
mirroring them moving off to their right,

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so that they're making this little bit
of a kind of a circle thing,

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and they're like, don't typically do
that. They're looking at each other.

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Let's just get out into the open, because they're in some pretty thick brush

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and stuff. They wanted to get
out in the open, give themselves room

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to see do whatever they got to
do. As they get back to the

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campsite, his fiance is in the
tent. She won't come out. She

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heard everything going on. She heard
them talking in the woods because it was

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echoing right back out to her,
and she said, we're not staying here.

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He's look, it's on in the
dark. We're several miles from the

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parking lot. To get out of
here hanging there. Will get out first

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light and we'll just leave. We'll
go back to my place and anchorage.

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She said, okay, but first
light. Yeah, as soon as there's

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a sliver of light, we're out
of here. She is full blown not

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having it. Ain't ever going to
come back. She stated as much and

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Eric is feeling sick inside because he
knows he needs this outlet. He needs

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to be able to go out in
the woods. He's been doing it for

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twenty something years. He just it's
in his blood. At this point,

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I don't mean to make light of
it. I've lost relationships over similar stuff

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being in the woods, and people
just can't hang with it. Not everyone's

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built for the outdoors, even if
they really like the idea of it.

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In practice, it sometimes doesn't work. This cereal this morning is still going

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along while she's complaining about wanting to
get the hell out of there. Eric

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and this guy the guys, Hey, there's about five six of us over

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here. Why don't you get your
stuff and just come on over and we'll

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stay as a group, and his
girlfriend his fiance immediately times in I'm not

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going to hang out with a bunch
of strangers over some silly noise in the

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woods. Me I would have been
like, shut up, pack up,

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let's go with the group. But
he wanted to salvage what was left of

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this little trip of theirs because they
are engaged and he wants to keep it

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that way. At this point,
the guy who looks at Eric Okay,

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I'm gonna go get a couple of
my buddies. We'll come back. We'll

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take another look around as a larger
group, and maybe whatever it is we'll

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get shoot away just by mere presence
of a bunch of people. And Eric's

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cool. Yeah, definitely do that. And so while Eric is fumbling around

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in his equipment trying to find his
handgun that he had brought along with too

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to hold strap and have a second
firearm, his financee starts freaking out about

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guns, like laying into him,
you shouldn't even have a gun, and

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he's trying to tell her, hey, look, this is a perfect example

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of why we need a gun.
We got strange noises in the woods.

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We don't know if it's a rogue
bear out to come get us. We

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don't know none of this stuff.
Just calm down. He's getting his buddies.

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We're going to go and check this
out. Just as he hears the

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other group coming from the other campsite. They're talking amongst each other and some

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kind of laughing guy's camaraderie going on, and just coming up the trail back

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to their site from the same direction
of that break on the birch tree,

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they hear and it god awful sound
like a woman being murdered scream. And

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right after that scream that just pierced
their ears and shook their bodies crash all

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around. He said, it sounded
like someone had some kind of big something

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and was just swinging it in a
circle, and it was like a almost

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like a rhythmic sound. And he
said it was nothing he had ever heard

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before. He never heard that kind
of scream, and he definitely never heard

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whatever commotion was going on. And
so at this point, the guys that

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would come and they come trotting up
and they're like, what the hell is

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going on over here? Where'd that
scream come from? And he was like,

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right over where we saw that break. One of the females that was

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with the other group came with that
party and coached his fiancee added the tent

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back over to the other campsite.
She said, hey, honey, come

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on, you're not staying here.
If these guys are firing off guns.

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You just need to be over here
with the other group, larger number at

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least until it's settled. She agreed. So they go in and takes her

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away to the other campsite as they're
coming up with a game plan. So

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they've been into the woods already once
and it seemed to layout and how the

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brush and stuff is so Eric and
this guy is explaining to the He said

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there was three other guys that ended
up coming, or four other guys something

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like that. It was getting on
in the dark, and he just saw

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a bunch of heads. So he
was guestimating because after the scream, they

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were discombobulated, which I totally understand. So they decided they're going to two

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groups only facing one direction. They
didn't want to turn muzzles towards each other

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if they had to fire. Eric
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that's not really a good how about
we're in a line like search and

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rescue and just pushed through going that
direct. Hey, that's a good idea.

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So they all agree. They're all
armed and most of them have flashlights

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and what not, headlamps, and
they start pushing in and once they get

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back up to where that broken birch
was, that birch is now broken all

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the way off and moved off to
the other side, and they did nothing

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but look at it. When they
were there just a few minutes ago,

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probably half hour forty minutes had passed
since they cleared the woods. The guy

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went to get his friends, and
all that stuff transpired. It's well on

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in the dark at this point,
especially in August. Yeah, it was

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plenty dark. They're beaming around there
trying to figure out what the hell.

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And they noticed just past that birch
tree was a line of smaller alders and

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some other brush that were just broken
off at about seven feet up, just

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broken off, and it appeared that
broken piece of birch was swung around like

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you would a rope over your head, like you going to lasso. It's

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how Eric said it looked. And
he said, that's twenty twenty hindsight at

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the time. They didn't put two
and two together, but he's assuming that

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it was used to spin around and
knock the other ones down. I don't

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know. I didn't see the carnage
myself. So they're checking it out.

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Everyone's looking everywhere. Okay, we
haven't heard any movement. We hadn't heard

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anal thing that it's a definitive it's
a bear. Let's get it, let's

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move on and let's push it out. Any of that that it was actually

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dead quiet now, when they decided, okay, there's no movement, there's

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no sound, we're not seeing anything. Let's retreat back and just forget about

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a call out a night. Just
as they're getting back to Eric's campsite,

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another scream, this time between them
and the other people's campsite. Now they're

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really pequd because they got their women
over there. I think there was a

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child with the other group. They
were screw that, we're on this.

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So they run down the trail.
They get along, they get to the

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area of the scream, and they're
asking the other campers that are right over

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there at this point, hey,
what direction was that scream coming from.

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They said it sounded like it was
past where you guys were, And they

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said, no, this scream came
between us. And they're like, we

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didn't hear it that close. So
they're just perplexed. What the hell do

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we do with that? They went
through looking, They looked as best they

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could. Not a sign, nothing
broken, and no tracks, none of

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that kind of stuff. Things that
calm down for a bit. Now they

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decide, okay, it's calm enough. Nerves calm down. They started doing

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a little sipping. They felt better
about the whole thing. Erica and his

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fiance went back to their tent.
Now they get there and hit his fiance

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is wiped out. They get in
their ses immediately in the sleeping bag,

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snoring, complaining about the bugs.
He's tending the fire. He is getting

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it going again because he wanted to
keep some kind of a fire going all

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night, just for whatever that sound
was. No one had any idea what

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that scream was. No one.
He put his rifle away in its case

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because she was complaining about stepping on
and if she had to get up to

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takle, so he kept his handgun
nearby. Now as he was just starting

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the doze off, he was sitting
at the front of the tent with his

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legs outside of the tent, looking
at the campfire and just leaning back,

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just staring at and listening to the
crackling fire. Because it's just a small,

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little two man hay frame tent that
they had. So he's at the

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front of it staring at the fire. Fiancees laid out. He notices the

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nylon sound of the tent, something
rubbing on it, So he clicks on

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his head lamp and he turns and
he looks back and on the inside of

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the tent. He sees a huge
hand impression of a hand sliding up and

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down the tent on the inside,
and it touched his fiance's head and he

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could see it going like this,
and then it moved back up and then

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come back around and then touch on
his fiance's head like that again. He

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said he was hypnotized at this.
It was so surreal to see this impression

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of a sheet. It was.
It was huge moving around. He saw

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the fingers moving individually, so it
wasn't just a prop pushed up against her

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or whatever slid up. He didn't
know what to do, he pad he

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just bawn put a bunch of shots
through the back of the ten into this

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impression of the hand. Right as
soon as that happens, he fired in

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quick succession and then stopped because his
fiance was getting up like she thought he

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was trying to shoot her. Understandably, she's laying there and all of a

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sudden he's shooting over her at this
hand impression. Right, She's freaked out

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hard, and I totally get it. Jesus, being woken up to gunshots

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from your fiance going over you.
It's not a good time and I'm not

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trying to make light of it.
I'm really not shots a fire, loud

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commotion at the back of the tent, and a bunch of crash, something

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running away. Now his ears were
ringing from the gunshots. He's telling her

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calm down. Something was trying to
grab you through the tent, and she's

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looking and she sees the bullet holes
and there's a little bit of blood there

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right. She immediately she calms down
and was like a bear was trying to

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get me while I slept. And
he goes, it wasn't a bear.

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It was a big, five fingered
hand impression on the tent, pushing around

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and touching you on the head.
She goes, that's what that was.

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She felt it touching her head,
but she didn't know what was doing it.

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She just thought she didn't know.
She was asleep, out of it

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from drinking a little bit, but
she remembered feeling some kind of touch on

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her head. She didn't realize that
was it. She's in the fog of

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trying to come to grips with what
just happened. He's freaking the hell out

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because of the sheer size of the
hand. He never expected to see anything

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like that ever in his life.
He has not been back out since this

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incident. He scrambled to get his
rifle out. Now. By this point,

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the other campers, three of the
guys are running over with their firearms,

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coming to see what the hell is
going on, because they heard the

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gunshots and then they heard the commotion
going through the trees. It was so

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loud it reverberated back to them.
They come over, they're all armed.

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He commences it, telling them what
happened there. I'll look at him.

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I'm like, dude, you had
a little too much, and he goes,

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look on the end side of my
tent. They went around to the

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back and sure enough, they're splattering
of blood. At one point on one

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side of the tent there was like
a greasy outline of a hand. He

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said it was hard to make out, but he knew what it was that

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made the marks. And they were
saying, oh, you could have rubbed

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your tent against something to make that. They were dismissive of it is what

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it was. And he was like, look, I'm not shooting at imagination.

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Imagination doesn't bleed, and it bled. That's splattering from the outside,

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and the shots came from the inside. Come on, don't dismiss me like

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that, don't mock me. He
he was very upset by this point.

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He's got his rifle out. His
fiance is over it, like over it.

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She wants nothing else to do with
being there, being with him,

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being near him. She still has
alcohol in her system, so she's not

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quite picking up what's happening. She's
going off of adrenaline. Over emotional a

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little bit and shots ringing over her
head. Would hey, understandable? Stuff?

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This poor guy. He's got the
other campers mocking him, his fiance

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wants to leave him, and he's
sitting there dealing with what just happened.

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There's a lot of that goes on
when it comes to these kind of sightings,

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a whole lot of that. Even
people that were together when it happened.

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One will want to tell people and
they're they'd be like that never happened.

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Why, I don't know. The
rest of the night, according to

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Eric, was uneventful. His fiance
never went back to sleep. She had

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everything packed again. He had to
make her understand we can't go until we

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got a lost liver or light.
We don't have enough battery power for the

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headlamps to make a hike out the
multiple miles it is back to the parking

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lot. So they had to sit
there by the fire and he had to

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listen to her explain in detail why
she was not going to stay in Alaska

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when they get married, he has
to live away from Alaska. Just a

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whole bunch of stuff that he knew
it wasn't going to help the relationship one

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iota, and so he never made
it back out again. He's currently down

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on I believe he said Vermont again. He's going to be back up sometime

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a little later on this fall.
The poor guy, he was really busted

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up about losing his fiance. He
loved her, and this situation just it

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was it just it canx sends you
waited the weakness in their relationship because she

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wasn't outdoors and he was. He'd
been an outdoors guy for decades and she

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was not with that. So I
guess it's for the best that they wouldn't

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have gotten along anyway. But the
poor guy lost his fiance from there,

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and then to be mocked by people
that heard the same screams that he did,

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saw the blood on the outside of
the tent, Like I don't know

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what causes people to just immediately deny
something that was obvious. Can you imagine,

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you know, you saw something and
then someone coming up saying, hey,

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you're a liar. You're either gonna
smack him in the mouth or you're

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just gonna keep your mouth shut and
never speak of it, And that's just

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not cool. It can cause issues
within yourself to hold that in. Like

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after my experiences for a couple of
years, I was self medicating with drinking.

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It can lead to a whole lot
of unnecessary damage in your life by

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not sharing it. Stay tuned for
more Sasquatch out to see. We'll be

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right back after these messages. This
happened just a couple of years ago.

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He went up on the New Yek
Couk with a couple other relatives. They

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were going to go up there and
just look around do some I think they

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were woodland caribou, looking for caribou
or something, just scouting around. It

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was in the fall, probably early
September, I think he said, mid

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Septin, probably right around the same
time of year I was up there in

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six. They ended up staying at
the very first Sam Accounting little cabin,

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which is bigger than the one we
stayed in further after New York Cook by

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the New York Cook Falls, so
they were when they had got there.

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This particular counting check had an actual
shed and it also had the bunk house.

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When they got there, there was
some other guys there in the bunk

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house. They just left them alone. They got in that shed. This

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happened the year before that story I
shared with you about the guys leaving the

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middle of the night and then they
went into the cabin and then the hairyman

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came in, peeked over the door
and tried to snatch the guy. This

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happened the year after that or the
year before, roughly within the same short

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timeframe we had been talking about it. So I got him mixed up a

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little bit. But the guys in
the cabin, they weren't going anywhere.

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Two of them were fishing game officers. That are kicking it in that shed.

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It was about two three in the
morning. They had been sitting up

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discussing because they had gotten there relatively
late in the day. Riding on the

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river all day. Trust me,
it takes it out of you. You

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00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.119
just bumping around. It's not a
joy ride. Let's say, of course

406
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:37.799
they're armed. This is Alaska,
Remote Alaska on a Bear River. Come

407
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.279
on. Yeah, they were heavily
armed. So as they're sitting there,

408
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.519
they're on either side of this shack
in these little makeshift cots, right,

409
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:51.200
they hear this heavy breathing going around
the shack and what the hell is that?

410
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.319
Something was off. He said that
when he was talking to his look

411
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.720
kept saying chi kayoki, it's a
hairy man out there, and now it's

412
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.920
not. It's probably just a bear, which pretty standard response around here,

413
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.240
and go out thinking it's a bear. They go and listen at the door,

414
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:10.960
and as he's going to open the
door, they felt it jiggle,

415
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:15.480
so they held it because bears don't
jiggle doors. This makeshift shed had a

416
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:21.799
actual doorknob and three hinges on the
door. Was utilitarian. It was basically

417
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:23.720
a hollow shell. I think there
was shelving in the back. He said,

418
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.440
They're standing there and all of a
sudden, Wow, it's just getting

419
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.240
banged on really hard, and they're
nervous. Of course, they get their

420
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.559
guns and they got them. Hey, we're in here, announce yourself.

421
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:38.400
Who's there. We have guns,
we're armed, nothing more. Circling around

422
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.480
and it felt heavy in the ground. They said. So, as they're

423
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.400
sitting there, they're discussing, who
the hell is that we got fishing game

424
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.279
troopers right thirty five feet away.
It wasn't adding up what was going on.

425
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.519
As they're sitting there, they kept
hearing this huffing and puffing going around,

426
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.319
and it sounded like at one point
it was breathing on top of the

427
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:02.279
shed. They heard the heavy breathing
coming from above big and they decided,

428
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:04.519
let's confront this thing. Let's confront
it. We'll shoot it. Whatever.

429
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.559
Hey, when you're in the woods
and something's terrifying you, you got a

430
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.640
gun. Guess what, you're gonna
freaking shoot it. That's just how it

431
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:12.920
is. I don't care who it
is. If you're in the woods and

432
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:18.240
something freaky's going on, you're getting
you've got a gun. They peek out,

433
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.000
they saw nothing. They shut the
door again. As they shut the

434
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:23.759
door, it was trying to be
forced back in, so they pushed real

435
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.759
hard. They got it shut.
They lashed a little thing that they had

436
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.440
there. It was like a little
wood piece that kind of flung over onto

437
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.200
a little l bracket and nothing.
So it was a one sided roof on

438
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.160
this shed, and it was about
a five to twelve pitch, not too

439
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.000
steep. They keep hearing it going
around and going around, and they're getting

440
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.680
nervous because as it's going around,
it starts tapping the side of that shed

441
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.480
that they were in. They had
finally had enough, and just as they

442
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:51.319
were getting up the gumption to go
back out again, bang there's banging at

443
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:55.480
the door. The third guy with
them turned on his headlamp. They all

444
00:30:55.519 --> 00:31:00.359
put on their headlamps, just watching
this door just slowly just get beat to

445
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.279
shit, and then bam, the
thing flies back past him and there's this

446
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.480
hairy man squatted down looking at him, just looking at him in there,

447
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.480
and it was staring at him,
and they were frozen in fear. They

448
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.920
couldn't believe what, you know,
what are we seeing here. One of

449
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:18.519
the guys with them started trying to
speak, you pick, trying to say

450
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.200
to my trying to see if there
was some kind of communication to be had.

451
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:25.799
This thing just it showed his teeth
and put its hands on either side

452
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.039
of the shed, was kind of
pushing against it, making this weird noise.

453
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.240
So his cousin across the way clicked
the safety off and it ran off

454
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:36.240
around the shed. They're freaked out. They froze up from the oh shit

455
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:40.319
factor, and then they hear it
run around and they're expecting it to come

456
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.440
to the doorway. So they're all
sitting there like three stooges. So they're

457
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.480
just sitting there just waiting for this
thing to come around. But it doesn't.

458
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.960
It jumps on the roof. Now, he said. When it jumped

459
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:53.519
on the roof, all they heard
was the pressure of its weight. So

460
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:59.400
this thing was so nimble it jumped
up and just landed there smoothly. It

461
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.079
didn't like bump or none of that. It just and it was up there

462
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:07.039
and they felt the they heard the
weight there, and so they're like,

463
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:12.559
oh shit, freak out mode.
Totally understandable, been there. So they

464
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.680
said after a second or two and
it wasn't moving, they're like, let's

465
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.279
shoot it, let's get it,
because they were they wanted to run to

466
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:22.519
the other cabin and get the fishing
game troopers involved. Why wouldn't shift,

467
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:24.400
They're right there, I would too. Shit. So they run out and

468
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.240
they turn a round a point up
they see it and they start blasting away

469
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:30.160
at this thing and it just jumps
off the backside. They hear it land

470
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:34.759
and it just it was gone.
All the shots. Wake up everyone in

471
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:38.000
the other bunk. Now, this
is what he told me. I'm not

472
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:40.519
going to name the troopers. I
want to put them on blasts like that.

473
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:44.839
But they all came out. They
were all armed. They're trying to

474
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:46.759
figure out, WTF. Who's shooting
in the middle of night. Is there

475
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:50.599
a bear? Do we need to
be concerned kind of thing? Or is

476
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.599
it a drunk guy that we need
to arrest taking a cussy of stop hurting

477
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:58.240
anybody. As they come out,
of course they're freaking. They're like,

478
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:00.440
hey, the harry Man, it
was just over there whatever, And everyone

479
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:04.359
was calm. They were like,
oh, Nikola, I didn't know these

480
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.200
people. He've seen the troopers around, but he didn't know. And we

481
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.960
have relatives that are in there.
But they're all kind of introducing each other.

482
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:14.440
I'm so and so from and such
whatever, and they're saying, hey,

483
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:15.720
the harry Man tried to get us, that's why we were shooting.

484
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:19.920
And the guys go, well,
calm down. It did the same thing

485
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.359
to us. We did the same
thing. And they're like, what do

486
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.359
you mean they did the same thing
to you? You still have a door

487
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.599
and he said no, it was
jumping on the roof, jumping off,

488
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.279
banging the walls, looking in the
windows at us. So this thing,

489
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:37.359
for two days prior had been doing
the same thing, looking for a way

490
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:44.279
to get somebody. It was predatory
behavior. They're sitting there doing their own

491
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:49.279
thing. These were wildlife troopers.
They're not out doing nefarious shit. They

492
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.480
were up there doing some type of
research. I think they were getting ready

493
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:57.000
to go in the field and check
hunting licenses for the hunters. They came

494
00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.319
across out in the bush hunting for
caribou. Hey, they're doing their job.

495
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:05.599
But they said, for two days
this thing was lurking around this place,

496
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:07.599
banging at night. It only happened
at night. They saw it one

497
00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:12.519
time during the day up in a
lagoon and it ran across the lago.

498
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.239
So they were pan faced. They
were like, yeah, it was here,

499
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:16.760
and it left a good thing.
It left, And they said do

500
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:20.440
you think you hit it? And
Nickolai was like, yeah, I hit

501
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:23.280
it. I know how to shoot
and they said okay, and they the

502
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:28.079
way he took it. They were
so nonchalant about it, like it was

503
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.599
just another day, which essentially it
is. But these things up on the

504
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:36.000
New Yekuk River. That is the
only place I've ever been. Now,

505
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.280
I've been to plenty of other places
in Alaska, and anytime I've come across

506
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:44.280
something, it's always made it self
known. Shook a tree, break something,

507
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.519
maybe throw something, little pebbles at
you. You don't even realize it's

508
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:51.360
following you at first. But on
that New Yekuk River from the village of

509
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.360
Koalignik up to New York Cuk,
where it wraps around and goes back up

510
00:34:54.360 --> 00:35:00.119
to tik Chik and narrows past the
New Yakuk Falls, that area up there

511
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:05.239
is no joke. I shared a
photographer's encounter at the New York Cook Falls

512
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.400
just the other day, same area, probably thirty five forty five miles away

513
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:14.840
from there. But my point being
is is there's these places in remote Alaska.

514
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.159
Whether you accept it or not,
it's irrelevant. If you were to

515
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:22.280
go to the village of Kalignek and
bring up the Harryman either probably wouldn't even

516
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:24.559
talk to you about it, or
be they would just look at you like,

517
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:28.679
yeah, it's like talking to them
about a moose across the river.

518
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:31.800
It's just what it is. And
for a lot of people hearing stuff like

519
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:37.039
that, it's kind of hard to
accept. It's hard to just go,

520
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.119
wait a minute, all these years, these things are running around terrorizing people

521
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:45.360
and nothing is being done. That's
exactly right, nothing is being done.

522
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:50.440
They take whatever precautions they got worked
out. I've talked to a few of

523
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:52.280
them, but I haven't had a
chance to really delve deep. It's just

524
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:59.239
been little cursory conversations prepping for interviews, but it's typically not talked about.

525
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.320
I've said, before they get back
to the village, it's just another day

526
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:07.000
unless someone asks, oh, did
you see a Harryman? Or they may

527
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.800
share with the immediate family, but
outside of that immediate family dynamic, it's

528
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:14.920
like saying, oh, I saw
a moose cross the road up here.

529
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.599
It just it's something that happens all
the time, so it's not news.

530
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.320
It's not worthy of running around,
Oh my god, get you going,

531
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:25.199
there's Harry Man. It's not even
like that, which to me it boggles

532
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:28.800
my mind because I had to get
out of Dodge. To be honest with

533
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.760
you, I couldn't stick around knowing
that they're that aggressive up that way.

534
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:38.199
I have some encounters coming soon from
the actual village of Kalignick, less than

535
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:43.480
one hundred year round residents. There, great people. Just beware on the

536
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:47.079
New York Cut. That shit's real
out there. They say, you don't

537
00:36:47.119 --> 00:37:23.400
have to go home, but you
can't. Stays step Joy, this chard,

538
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:30.719
that chart, everything calling right back, right back, Joy for me,

539
00:37:30.760 --> 00:38:12.440
Joy, stay right there, you
come it right away. Still still

540
00:37:53.679 --> 00:38:39.400
sat still fast fact, do not
doubt, don't about the still steps us

541
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:47.000
sets things muss