WEBVTT

1
00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:15.400
Hello, everyone, Welcome back to
a new episode of the Poker Go Podcast.

2
00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:19.600
My name is Donny Peters. His
name is Timothy Duckworth. How you

3
00:00:19.640 --> 00:00:22.920
doing, sir, I'm doing good. I relaxed and where you go?

4
00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:27.199
Well, that's good. I'm gonna
be upfront and just say that you sound

5
00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:30.280
like crap on this microphone, so
we'll see if rich the producer can figure

6
00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:34.679
it out. I don't understand it. You obviously don't understand it. So

7
00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:39.079
you know, we're just two idiots
on a microphone right now, and we're

8
00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:42.399
hoping the genius that is Rich Ryan
can can figure out your sound a little

9
00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:47.520
bit. But he's probably gonna message
us and you know, complain, but

10
00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:51.640
whatever, we'll figure it out from
here. It's good to be back.

11
00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:56.280
It's been a minute and we did
a podcast. I don't even remember.

12
00:00:56.320 --> 00:01:00.520
It's been too busy, man.
It's just stuff just getting in the way.

13
00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:06.319
It's just been it's been hectic out
there. But what are you going

14
00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:11.760
to do? It is Monday,
March eighteenth. We are gearing up for

15
00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:18.840
the PGT PLO series coming in a
few days. On today's show, we're

16
00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:23.000
gonna do a little bit of a
recap of the mixed game series that recently

17
00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.200
ran and concluded over at the Pokerro
Studio. We'll get into the Plo series

18
00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:33.040
and also touch on the US Poker
Open that has coming up. We announced

19
00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:38.760
a new PGT event down in Texas, baby, the Texas Poker Open,

20
00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:45.000
so we'll touch on that. I
gotta get Tim's temperature on the Becker versus

21
00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:49.120
Tice situation, wager, whatever you
want to call it. And then I

22
00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:53.799
guess we're gonna have to talk about
this Triton Poker Series festival, because good

23
00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:59.879
lord, sir, these numbers out
of this series are unreal. This episode

24
00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:04.840
the Poker Go Podcast is brought to
you by storm x, the exclusive cryptocurrency

25
00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:09.319
partner of poker Go. Storm x
makes it easy to earn crypto cash back.

26
00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:13.639
All you have to do head on
over to storm x dot io,

27
00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:17.520
sign up and start shopping online and
then once you start doing that, you

28
00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:23.319
will start earning crypto cash back.
Earning crypto does not have to be hard

29
00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:30.960
with Earning crypto is easy, all
right, PGT Mix Games. Max Hoffman,

30
00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:36.080
I guess kind of a new kid
on the block. In a little

31
00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:40.719
bit of a way. He has
crowned the series champion Max Hoffman hails from

32
00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:46.000
the East Coast. Believe. He
started out in his professional life not as

33
00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:52.240
a poker player, but as a
quantitative trader, I believe, and then

34
00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:57.680
took a break from that to dive
into the world of professional poker, and

35
00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:00.599
it seems like it's going all right
for him. He is now the PGT

36
00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:07.240
Mixed Games Champion for twenty twenty four. He cashed five times. He didn't

37
00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:09.680
get a win, but he did
have two runner up finishes, had a

38
00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:14.120
few other deep runs as well.
Cashed for more than three hundred and seventy

39
00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:19.000
six thousand dollars total, played really
well throughout. He was pretty much always

40
00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:22.360
in contention, you know, making
some noise. There was what ten events

41
00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:25.680
he cashed half of them, So, you know, really really good job

42
00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:31.479
from Max Hoffman. Somebody that's you
know, I think is now probably gonna

43
00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:36.199
be on people's radars as it pertains
like you know, bigger buying mixed game

44
00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:39.000
stuff at the World Series of Poker. I'm not sure how much he you

45
00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:44.039
know, dives into the other stuff
or you know, where his comfort level

46
00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.439
is with you know, Nola at
Holdham, plo et cetera. At least

47
00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:51.199
as straight straight tournaments or whatnot,
because he you know, he obviously played

48
00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:54.080
those within some of these mixes.
But yeah, be on the lookout for

49
00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:58.719
Max Hoffman, really really good showing
from him. How do you feel about

50
00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.000
the turnoff, Buddy? It was
okay? I mean, look, we

51
00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:08.159
didn't okay, we didn't smash expectations
or anything. We knew that we were

52
00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:12.159
going up against try and we knew
there was plenty of other stuff going on

53
00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:17.120
around the world, and but all
in all, I think we were kind

54
00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:20.040
of happy at the at the numbers. There was a few people that didn't

55
00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:26.199
play that we thought would, but
that's I don't know one named I don't

56
00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:30.079
we can call him that the guy
you invited into the commentary box should have

57
00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:34.360
been firing every event, mister Kevin
Goha. Let's us leave at that.

58
00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:41.040
But anyway, look, I think
it's it's you know, we made this

59
00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:45.519
a point when planning this one that
it would be once a year going forward.

60
00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.639
I think the timing is very important. We've already kind of blocked off

61
00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:54.759
the Super Bowl time next year.
Obviously this this year we had. You

62
00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:58.160
couldn't have stayed in Vegas for less
than a thousand dollars a night, so

63
00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:02.560
we had to kind of move it. But next year, back before Super

64
00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:05.480
Bowl, I think that's kind of
the target window, and I think the

65
00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:09.920
numbers will go up. We'll tweak
the schedule, we'll start fresh, We'll

66
00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:13.040
look at the numbers that perform the
best, the events have performed well,

67
00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:15.600
and kind of go from there.
Already a lot of talk about adding some

68
00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:20.120
new events, removing some, so
we're going clean slate. We're going to

69
00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:25.040
start planning it during the World Series
with a lot of the lot of help

70
00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:27.879
from the mixed game guys. What
are you going to remove? What are

71
00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.720
you taking out? Triple Start?
No, that's the best event I think,

72
00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:34.600
to be honest, the Big Bet
Mix doesn't quite fit in the schedule.

73
00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:41.240
It's a great event, but it's
heavily reliant on non mixed game plays

74
00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:45.319
to jump in and therefore then the
mix game guys jump in. We didn't

75
00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:46.600
see that this year, you know, Like I said, people were at

76
00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:51.079
trying people at other stuffs, like
over the Road at the Wind. So

77
00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:56.240
I think that one's an easy one
to remove. Yet a lot of negative

78
00:05:56.439 --> 00:06:00.720
talk about Triple stud so that could
go. I could see the schedule getting

79
00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:05.600
shorter. Maybe we add a five
koe. I know Alan Kessel will be

80
00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:10.480
happy with that one. But like
I said, firsht Slate, we're gonna

81
00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:14.040
just look at numbers, uh,
talk talk with Ari, see what they

82
00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:15.199
want to put on too, because
you know, at the end of the

83
00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.439
day, they're trying to make sure
they cover the bills, be able to

84
00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:23.639
pay the dealers, and cover the
food and their drinks. So you know,

85
00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:27.519
we've got to we've got to weigh
everything up. Do you think that

86
00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:31.800
this tells us anything about the state
of mixed games and let me kind of

87
00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:34.920
expand on that a little bit before
you answer, but you know, the

88
00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:42.399
state of mixed games at the higher
stakes, and then also like leading into

89
00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:45.920
the summer the World Series of Pokera, of course, like does this tell

90
00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:49.160
us anything about what we can expect
numbers wise for the World Series or is

91
00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:53.839
that just completely separate in your mind? It's definitely separate. You know,

92
00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:58.199
you can just look at the player
pools for those World Series events and there's

93
00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:01.920
people that you know, Nevin coming
to Vegas outside of the World Series.

94
00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:06.120
Obviously, there's people that weren't at
this series. You know, honestly,

95
00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:10.079
I think we did a bit of
a disservice to the mixed game community by

96
00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:13.879
running the Fall one. Obviously,
people wanted it, you know, we

97
00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:16.920
we were trying to capitalize on the
success of the February one in twenty twenty

98
00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:21.000
three, and you know, taking
so much money out of them. Hold

99
00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:25.120
on, let me just jump in. You're biting the bullet there. But

100
00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:30.879
the idea to run the second one
was kind of not even on our radar

101
00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.199
if it wasn't for the players pushing
me. Yes, yeah, yeah,

102
00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:38.240
yeah, I mean, but I'm
saying, like the they pushed for it

103
00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:41.360
really hard. You know, a
lot of people coming out of the first

104
00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:45.040
one in those immediate days and weeks. You know, even during that first

105
00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:49.000
one again, we're going back to
the first half of twenty twenty three when

106
00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:53.199
we had the first PGT mixed game
series, you know, the players are

107
00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:56.360
like, wow, turnouts are great, Maybe we should think about running it

108
00:07:56.399 --> 00:08:00.240
back to the second one then all
summer, you know, every time we

109
00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.319
saw a mixed game player in this
sort of you know, higher buying community,

110
00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:05.600
they were like, yeah, I
missed the first one, didn't know

111
00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:09.839
how it was going to do,
would definitely come for a second one.

112
00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:11.639
A lot of those people that said
that ended up not showing up. So

113
00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:16.040
in a lot of ways, I
mean, you can't ask for something and

114
00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:18.639
then don't show up. I mean, like, end of the day,

115
00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.839
the numbers are going to speak and
it could get pulled. I'm not saying

116
00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:24.800
it's going to be, but I'm
saying, like, if you guys push

117
00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:28.279
for something out there in the community, you have to then support it because

118
00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:31.200
without that support, it's not going
to last too long. I mean,

119
00:08:31.320 --> 00:08:35.240
yeah, I agree with you.
We just everyone just got a little ego,

120
00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:39.039
right like, and that's the reason
why we put the other one in.

121
00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.320
Poker players were impatient. Yeah,
no way, no way, man.

122
00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.960
You also have to realize that,
you know, unlike the no limit

123
00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:52.879
or PAYEO people, you know,
if you have a bad series, you

124
00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.720
can go rebuild that, you know, grinding low stakes cash, grinding,

125
00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:01.240
low buying tournaments. With mixed it's
just a differ different, a different world.

126
00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.399
There's there's not like a plethora of
mixed events, you know in Vegas

127
00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.159
or anywhere around the country. You
know, there's not a lot of cash

128
00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:15.799
games. There's not really a lot
of online mix so it's hard to rebuild

129
00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.720
a bankroll playing mixed games. If
you have a tough series and like you

130
00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.639
know, we do ten events,
they're all big buyings as re entries,

131
00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:28.360
you know, like unfortunately you could
go bust though very quickly playing our series,

132
00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:33.200
and I think that's non ideal.
That's something we change this year with

133
00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:37.559
the two five ks to open,
and I think next year we'll probably see

134
00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:43.240
a similar, similar structured schedule,
the lower buyings at the start building up,

135
00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:48.600
maybe knock off an event just to
you know, keep keep more people

136
00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:50.159
afloat, you know, they don't
they don't know, they don't have to

137
00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:56.240
come and potentially lose everything. So
but yeah, all in all, I

138
00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:03.360
thought it'd hit about the numbers I
expected, maybe a little onda. You

139
00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:05.919
know, it's a great series.
No one else really does anything like this.

140
00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:09.440
It's good to see a few new
faces making appearances. Good to see

141
00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:15.200
certain people win events that you know
hadn't you know, one events before in

142
00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.360
the studio. So that was pretty
good too. Yeah, I thought the

143
00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:24.399
numbers for like the first well,
the first four events are probably a little

144
00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:31.720
bit down from what I had hoped
that they would be at. Kicking things

145
00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:33.440
off as a five k horse event
had eighty seven entries. Then you had

146
00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.279
the five K a game at eighty
nine entries. Then you had those two

147
00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:41.120
same tournaments only at the ten K
price point, you had a ten K

148
00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:45.840
horse sixty three entries, ten K
eight game sixty one entries. You know,

149
00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:50.279
I thought the two five k's would
have for sure pushed towards one hundred

150
00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:54.639
more been in that ninety five to
one hundred range, if not Eclipse one

151
00:10:54.720 --> 00:11:00.000
hundred, and then the two ten
k's of those would have been pushing eight.

152
00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:05.399
So a little bit shy there now. That said, I was very

153
00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:09.200
pleasantly surprised with the turnout for the
twenty five K Championship, which got forty

154
00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:11.919
one entries, you know, that
one. You know, a little bit

155
00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.759
of worry after seeing kind of the
turnout throughout the series, being like,

156
00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:20.000
Okay, maybe this is only gonna
draw like twenty five to thirty or something.

157
00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:24.000
Ends up drawing really well. Gets
forty one entries in that one.

158
00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:28.039
So so that was a good turnout
there. You know, we got we

159
00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.799
had some faces come out that I
think it was good to have. Jason

160
00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:35.799
Mercier is like back playing, which
is good, and you had Philip Bramos

161
00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:39.240
made the trip over. He was
out there battling. You know, Phil

162
00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:41.480
Helmuth played a handful of events.
He cashed in two of them, so

163
00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:45.679
it was good to see Phil Helmuth
out there. I know he did share

164
00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:48.799
on social media beforehand that he was
going to be playing this series, but

165
00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.039
we all know how that goes.
You know, he can talk about it

166
00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:56.559
and ultimately not show up. So
so yeah, I think overall it was

167
00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:00.480
it was pretty good. I like
the fact that we got you know,

168
00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:03.320
kind of a new face up there
winning. It was a challenging leaderboard race

169
00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:07.840
all throughout the series. Dan Zach
who was the winner of the first ever

170
00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.759
PGT mix game series. He ended
up finishing in second place on the leaderboard

171
00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:16.720
to Hoffman. Then it was Jerry
Wong and third, John Hennigan in fourth,

172
00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:20.480
and Daniel mcgran new in fifth.
I just want to touch on the

173
00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:24.200
GRANEUW because I mean he's been pretty
much on fire this year so far.

174
00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:28.399
You know, again, we'll remind
everyone he came out of twenty twenty three.

175
00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.039
He put a video out there,
he put his stats out there like

176
00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:33.799
he does every single year. You
know, he says he was down what

177
00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:39.159
like two point two or two point
three million from the year before. He

178
00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:43.720
really made it a point to going
too twenty twenty four, emphasizing quality over

179
00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:48.960
quantity, not just firing as much
volume as he could, but really being

180
00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:52.519
selective, at least as it pertains
to us on the PGT. You know,

181
00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.919
we've seen a bit of that where
he's skipped a handful event at times.

182
00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:00.799
You know, he flat out told
us he probably and be playing the

183
00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:05.879
five K events, and then you
know, some ten k's here and there,

184
00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.440
if he hasn't felt up to it, he's skipped it. So he

185
00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:13.799
certainly is taking that quality over quantity
approach, and he's done. He's done

186
00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.559
well overall. You know, he
has a bunch of cashes so far this

187
00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:24.679
year on the the PGT. He
is sitting in fifth place on the PGT

188
00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.720
season long leaderboard with five and twenty
one points. He added four cashes during

189
00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:33.720
this PGT Mixed Games series, so
a couple of deep runs he has.

190
00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:39.399
He hasn't won a PGT event yet
this season, but that doesn't mean that

191
00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:43.440
it's it's not coming. I mean
it certainly feels like it's coming. He

192
00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:48.480
has seven PGT cashes so far this
season. You know, a bunch of

193
00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:52.799
them are our final table appearances.
You know, getting close. He got

194
00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:56.120
as close as they could get in
one of the events at the PGT Mixed

195
00:13:56.120 --> 00:14:00.919
Game Series, event number seven,
he took second place in that one.

196
00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.000
He had another third place and then
a fourth and a fifth as well in

197
00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:09.399
there, So Nigranny was certainly on
the right path to correcting things from a

198
00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:13.519
year ago. And then also just
want to touch on Jeremy Osmas. You

199
00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:18.679
know, he had a bunch of
a bunch of cashes during this series and

200
00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:24.080
moved up to seventh place on the
PGT season long leader well with four and

201
00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:26.240
forty three points. Kind Of the
reason why I wanted to point out these

202
00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:33.279
two is, at least from a
PGT perspective, it's interesting that like these

203
00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:39.720
two in a way have an advantage
right with the added Mixed Game Series and

204
00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:43.879
added PLO because they play everything including
the No Limit. So I'm just kind

205
00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:48.360
of curious on I guess your thoughts
there. I mean, there's some other

206
00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:52.159
players I would kind of throw into
this mix, but like Nick Shulman for

207
00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:54.519
example, but he obviously went over
to Triton, so he didn't play.

208
00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:58.919
Probably a Chino Reim as well,
you know, just those guys that ca

209
00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.519
and do play everything, right,
they're not just like like you look at

210
00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:07.120
like John Manette, not that Jominette
can't play Nolan hold them in PLO,

211
00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:11.240
right, but like John Manette really
only plays mixed games, you know,

212
00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.480
so like he's not going to dive
into like the US poke gropen, et

213
00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.279
cetera. You know. And then
you have like guys that are more kind

214
00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:20.759
of straight nolan At hold Them or
maybe they're nolan At hold Them slash PLO

215
00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:22.159
and they don't dive into the mixed
games at all. So it's just kind

216
00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:28.639
of an interesting way to look at
how the schedule shapes up for a handful

217
00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.919
of players. I can I can
throw you some more names. Alex Livingston,

218
00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:37.120
there you go, rass, you
know, Jim Collopy, Jaylen Lindy.

219
00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:41.519
The difference with a lot of those
guys that we've mentioned either that I

220
00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:46.799
really live in Vegas, like Alex
Livingston travels a lot, Jim Callapy travels

221
00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:50.639
all these events as well, or
there's the motivation to play, you know,

222
00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:54.639
Nick Schulman, Brian rast Hannigan in
whatever Moody wakes up in. These

223
00:15:54.639 --> 00:16:00.799
guys aren't you know here wanting you
know, O need to play every day,

224
00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:06.679
while Nograno and Levison I mean,
sorry, Negrono and Jeremy live here.

225
00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:10.440
They do want to play, so
definitely have an advantage. But there's

226
00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:15.000
a lot of other people in that
same position, Steven Chidwick to name another

227
00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:19.200
one, that just choosing other options, whether it's trying traveling. So there

228
00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:22.919
is quite a few people, So
there's a decent amount that have this advantage

229
00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:27.120
of being able to play everything.
This is a question of if they want

230
00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:30.240
to play everything. Yeah, And
as the things stand right now, it

231
00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:34.320
remains David Coleman out in front of
the PGT leaderboard for this season. Of

232
00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:41.879
course, he had an incredible start
to the year from the PGT kickoff series.

233
00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:48.639
We should be seeing Coleman back for
probably PLO. I think he has

234
00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:52.840
some events listed on Poker Steak if
I remember correctly. If not, for

235
00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:56.039
sure, he's going to be around
for USPO definitely. So yeah, I

236
00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:59.039
mean, and those are the two
things that I kind of want to touch

237
00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:02.559
on next. You know, we
have the PGT PLO series coming up.

238
00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:06.640
It starts on Wednesday. Again.
We are recording this on Monday. Ten

239
00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:11.039
events. The lowest buying is a
fifty one dollars buying event they go all

240
00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:15.119
the way up to the championship.
That's a twenty five K championship. We

241
00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:19.079
have a pretty cool announcement in that
PLO Mastermind is going to be the presenting

242
00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:25.559
sponsor for the PGT PLO series this
year. And along with that comes a

243
00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:30.359
nice little offer from PLO Mastermind that
would allow you guys to unlock your PLO

244
00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:37.720
potential. Your gateway to mastering both
fore card and five card PLO is over

245
00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:41.359
at PLO Mastermind. You guys can
get started today for free at plomstermind dot

246
00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:45.720
com slash poker Go. I'm told
no credit card required. You can just

247
00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:49.279
sign on up, get in there
and start trying things out. I might

248
00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:52.519
have to start trying out the five
card PLO because I feel lost when it

249
00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.920
comes to five card filo. That's
for damn sure. So yeah, but

250
00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:00.720
yeah, ten events coming up starting
when I mean, this one should be

251
00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:04.480
popular again, I would assume.
So like the Mixed Game series, we

252
00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:11.480
did run two versions or two editions
of the PLO series last PGT season.

253
00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:15.039
This will be the first one this
season. You know, it's still TBD

254
00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.839
if we're going to run back a
second one. But we all know PLO

255
00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.799
performs a bit better than mixed games
overall, so at least more potential that

256
00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:26.640
we run back a second one of
these. But for this first one,

257
00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:30.200
you know, it's I think it's
going to be good. You know,

258
00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:34.480
we're there's only two places out there
that I know of that are running PLO

259
00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:41.319
only series. It's us and then
it's over for the Big Rap at King's

260
00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:44.759
Casino in Roster. It's such an
it is such a great name. I

261
00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:48.920
mean, other than jealous, other
than us in them, I could just

262
00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:52.920
be ignorant to the fact that there
is another, you know, like PLO

263
00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:56.680
centric series out there. But yeah, I mean, I think it's going

264
00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:59.759
to be great. I'm assuming you've
talked to a lot of the players to

265
00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:02.039
have a better feel like what the
turnout is going to be, like,

266
00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:06.160
is it going to be good?
You know, I honestly haven't talked to

267
00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:11.200
too many because the first two are
so good that I feel like we're kind

268
00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:14.720
of expecting it to be the same. I think the schedule is much much

269
00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:18.359
better, you know, we have
I think it's three We start with a

270
00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:22.799
five K seventy five hundred BOUNDI back
to a five K, up to a

271
00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:26.960
ten back to a five K Progressive. So the five K Progressive is a

272
00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:30.839
new event for this series. We
see the numbers on that on these lower

273
00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:37.559
buyings, hold them or p low. It's it just crushes. These guys

274
00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:41.720
want to gamble, they want to
play these kind of turboy events, and

275
00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:47.680
I'm looking forward to the blood that
will come from the five K Progressive Bountie.

276
00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:52.160
So yeah, that's the change we've
made. And the scheduling, it's

277
00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:56.200
just all high events except for the
finale. I think it's a better way

278
00:19:56.279 --> 00:20:00.079
to capitalize on people wanting to travel, you know, the guys that are

279
00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.920
coming from Europe, the guys that
are coming from Texas, you know,

280
00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:07.160
wherever to play. They can pretty
much play the first nine events, you

281
00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:10.920
know, with no breaks. So
trying to lock him in the studio,

282
00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:14.359
yeah, I would expect, you
know, all the all the big guns

283
00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:18.920
are out in terms of the polo
sense, you know, Dylan Wiseman comes

284
00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:21.640
top of mind. Alex Livingston,
you touched on him earlier. I would

285
00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:23.799
expect him to be around as well. I'm assuming Jeremy Osmas is going to

286
00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:27.359
be playing a bunch. Daniel Legrand, who should be in there. I

287
00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:30.039
believe Josh Ari a message. You
said he's all booked up, right,

288
00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.920
I mean so, yeah, Like
that's the one I was ruling out.

289
00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:36.960
I talked to Nigrano and is like, he's getting married. I'm like,

290
00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:40.960
yeah, but the series stops before
he's wedding. You can play a few

291
00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:45.440
events. And then he messaged me
saying I just booked him coming. I'm

292
00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:49.000
not playing the main event. So
if we're getting in for eight events,

293
00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:53.519
that's eight more than I expected.
Now, I just really need him to

294
00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:57.440
perform really well, so he has
to stick around to try and win the

295
00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:03.039
overall sees championship. Yeah. I
mean, I think it'll be another good

296
00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.720
series from the PLO crowd. I
mean, I think that they've shown us

297
00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:08.359
that this is something that they want. I know I've said this before,

298
00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:11.960
but this is something that they want. They come out, they support it,

299
00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:15.960
you know. So it's going to
be a lot of fun. We

300
00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:22.319
will be streaming every single final table
on poker Goro and on the Poker gro

301
00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:27.319
YouTube channel. Believe it'll be myself
and Remco Rinkim in the booth throughout,

302
00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:32.200
So if you guys want to come
hang out, would certainly encourage you all

303
00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:36.480
to do so. Again, The
series starts on Wednesday, March twentieth,

304
00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:41.319
and then that first final table will
go live on Thursday, March twenty first

305
00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:45.480
all live reporting will be handled on
PGT dot com by Tim and the team,

306
00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:48.279
So it's gonna be good. Hope
we get a bunch of the Europeans

307
00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.240
once again. That's always the fun
crowd that I like to see. You

308
00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:56.960
know, Elias Parson and Joni Ukamminen, you know, Jonas Kronwit are all

309
00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:00.960
those guys like eyes. I can't
wait to see all those guys out there.

310
00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:03.720
Maybe you draw you know, a
handful more in I feel like the

311
00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:06.720
second time around we got some kind
of new faces out there. So we'll

312
00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:11.920
see and we'll see if the PLO
god himself, latarro uh Guerra, is

313
00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.000
gonna gonna come out and try and
defend his title once again. Who won

314
00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:21.519
the second one? Daniel Gang.
Oh yeah, Daniel Gang from New Hampshire

315
00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.359
out of all places, came out
played really well, so we'll see if

316
00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:30.839
we get him back. I remember
talking to him when he showed up before

317
00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:33.279
even number one, Like walking into
the studio, I had no idea what

318
00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.119
was going on, like, you
know, just looked like a. He

319
00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:38.240
looked like, you know, for
all intents and purposes, you know,

320
00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:41.400
for lack of a better term,
a fish out of water in a lot

321
00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:44.640
of ways. But you know,
it was because he was in a new

322
00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:47.799
place. He'd never been there before, he didn't really know how things worked

323
00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:49.160
or whatnot. And then you know, lo and behold, he goes on

324
00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:52.319
to win the whole damn series.
So that's cool. I would guess that

325
00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:56.519
we see him come back again.
So so yeah, it should be a

326
00:22:56.680 --> 00:23:00.599
should be a lot of fun.
I wonder if we'll get any Jason for

327
00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:03.480
this one. I think we asked
him about it, right and he said

328
00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:08.960
very possible. He was here for
what ten days, so the fact that

329
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.839
the series is so close, maybe
not, but maybe we can little run

330
00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:18.359
back because of the march madness.
Who knows, who knows, it would

331
00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:21.440
be great to have him back.
I think we'll probably get some some Jared

332
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:26.240
Blesnig out there as well. So
yeah, this series is always a lot

333
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:27.559
of fun. So yeah, as
I said, you guys can tune in

334
00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:33.559
on PGT dot com starting Wednesday for
live report and then also on Thursday for

335
00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.920
the live streams, and then we
have us Poke Roopen is coming back not

336
00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:40.160
too far away. It's going to
be here before we know it. It's

337
00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:45.480
less than a month away. Monday, March eighth, eight events as part

338
00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:49.279
of the twenty twenty four USPO fifty
one hundred dollars on the front end going

339
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:53.519
up to the championship event that is
twenty five two hundred dollars. You know,

340
00:23:53.599 --> 00:24:00.680
this one should be drawing our regular
big name pop up their players,

341
00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:03.799
all the high stakes guys, So
this one will be a lot of fun.

342
00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:08.720
As always, I predict this series
will be huge. Really, I

343
00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:14.400
think the opening event is going to
be massive. Us what's your number?

344
00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:19.119
I need, I need, I
need to put some you know six good.

345
00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:22.400
Well, first of all, let's
remember it's a five K. But

346
00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:27.839
no, I know, I know, I just unlike Pogo Cup, we

347
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:33.079
were against Borgata, we were against
Seminole, we had just had fourteen events

348
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:37.039
in the studio two weeks a prior. I think for the no limit only

349
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:41.319
guys, you know, let's say
they played Pococo Cup, they either went

350
00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.279
to try it or they've got win
millions and then they got a long break.

351
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:49.240
And I think the USPO we're going
to see some guys come out that

352
00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:55.960
we that they didn't play the Cup, also our regulars, maybe some satellite

353
00:24:56.000 --> 00:25:00.039
winners, and just I think will
be a big one. Yeah, I

354
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:03.599
listen. I'm hoping it'll be a
big one. I've always kind of felt

355
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:08.119
that us Poke Ropen is like one
of our best brands, if not the

356
00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:11.920
best brand. I don't know.
I just I really like it. I

357
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.240
always like this timeslot that it falls
into, Like, I just think it's

358
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:19.880
a really fun, cool series.
So yeah, it should be really good

359
00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:23.160
overall. There's gonna be a bunch
of satellites leading up to it, in

360
00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:26.559
the days leading up to it.
You guys can check that stuff out on

361
00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:30.039
PGT dot com. Just hit the
schedule tab up at the top. If

362
00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.799
you're on mobile, just click the
little Hamburger menu and then hit schedule.

363
00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:40.720
And we're also running a special strategy
workshop is what we're calling it, coaching

364
00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:45.440
from Andrew Lichtenberger and Andrew Moreno.
So the two Andrews are going to be

365
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.839
running a special seminar at the studio. It includes two days of coaching,

366
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:55.160
one day of a live satellite offering, two seats for the USPO. And

367
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:57.599
if that is something that interests you
guys out there, I would encourage you

368
00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:03.240
to head on over to get dot
PokerGO dot com slash Strategy and all the

369
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:11.559
information will be on that page.
One more event here to talk about in

370
00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.079
terms of what's upcoming on the PGT, and this one is a fun one.

371
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.839
It's been in the works for a
while. I know Tim has been

372
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:23.319
hard at work with our partners down
in the lone Star state that is Champions

373
00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:30.359
Club Texas. We announced the Texas
Poker Open April twenty fourth through May fifth.

374
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.240
This series will take place, as
I said, Champions Club Texas,

375
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:40.680
which is either in Houston or like
right outside Houston. Two million dollars guaranteed

376
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:42.799
main event. The main event is
a thirty three hundred dollars buy in.

377
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:48.240
There are several starting fights and then
there are several other high roller tournaments as

378
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:55.680
part of this series. This one
could be bananas, absolutely bananas. Why

379
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:57.680
what do you think? What's this? What's it going to be like?

380
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.759
We go to First of all,
we're going to hit the guarantee. I

381
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.880
hope so, I mean, I
think the guarantee is certainly going to be

382
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.319
hit. We're doing something we've never
done. You know, this is this

383
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.720
is not our cup of Tea.
We're just hoping it works. We're attaching

384
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:19.240
ourselves to them. We're going to
be their live reporting. Obviously, we

385
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:25.720
have seven high Roller events throughout the
series, so you know, speaking to

386
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:27.720
a lot of players during the mix
game series, they're going to be coming.

387
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:33.519
So that's that's pretty that that was
good to hear. We just kind

388
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.440
of needed a lot of reliance on, you know, not our regulus.

389
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:42.400
If we're being honest, the guys
that play that buying thirty three hundred play

390
00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:47.440
the wpts. We've got a perfect
window. You're either going to be a

391
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:52.640
seminal or the win. Then you
can come to Texas play the two million

392
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.079
dollar main event Firings and Bullets,
and then you can go to Choctaw.

393
00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.880
It's perfect, it's perfect timing,
come Experiencechampions Club. It's a great venue,

394
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:04.400
great food. So I'm looking I'm
looking forward to it. But yes,

395
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:11.440
obviously there's a little bit of nervousness
with the guarantee because, yeah,

396
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.400
like I said, we've never done
it before. Bet from a betting man.

397
00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:18.920
We should make it and then next
year let's op it. Yeah,

398
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.200
you know, I'm not too worried
about the guarantee. I think it's easily

399
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:25.759
going to get hit. I think
you know, it'll come in right around

400
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:30.440
two and a half million. I
believe Champions Club has done a guarantee this

401
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:36.880
big before, right, Ah,
yes I do, and they got it.

402
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:40.559
So I would say that, you
know, coupled with the the marketing

403
00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:42.759
that we can help add to this
thing, like, then yeah, I

404
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:47.880
think we're going to get there.
And I mean I'm looking at it from

405
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.519
I think a lot of our regulars
are going to be there. It just

406
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:56.240
it benefits them to head down there. You know a lot of them travel

407
00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:00.640
to a lot of the bigger stops
around the general tournament circuit anyway, right,

408
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:06.920
and I think that this is now
included in those For some players that

409
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:11.079
might not necessarily travel for something that
you know, just has a thirty three

410
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.000
hundred dollars main event, they get
the fact that, yeah, there are

411
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.839
those high rollers that are all added
to the schedule as well, so you

412
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.279
know, they can all they can
play a whole bunch of that stuff.

413
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.680
And then I really want to see
kind of who comes out of it in

414
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:30.160
terms of earning PGT points that might
start playing some more of our stops.

415
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.119
Right, maybe someone has a lot
of success here. Then they go into

416
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.599
the World Series, they have a
little bit more success in the in the

417
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.880
PGT qualifying events that are part of
the twenty twenty four diabasopy, and then

418
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:42.359
we see him at Poker Masters,
you know, so like that's kind of

419
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:47.599
like what I want to see Snowball
from this whole thing. So so we'll

420
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.400
see. There's going to be live
streaming, I believe, if I remember

421
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:56.279
correctly, from day one A the
main event, there's like, I don't

422
00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:57.759
know, twelve days of live shot. I don't remember how many days exactly

423
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:02.440
there are, but there's streaming every
single day from the main event. Then

424
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:06.440
we're the second, like second half
of the schedule where a lot of the

425
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:11.000
high rollers are. The two day
high rollers will be streaming the final tables

426
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:15.599
of those high rollers. So a
ton of streaming is coming out of Champions

427
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.839
Club Texas. Tim, you already
talked about the venue. I have not

428
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.759
been there yet. I've already been
talking them like, you know, should

429
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:23.960
I go? I want to go, So let's see if I can make

430
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:29.839
that happen. The fact that they
have a hotel attached to their poker room,

431
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.799
I think is great. Everyone raves
about the food there. I've heard

432
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:37.799
the games, the cash games specifically
are pretty wild, and if that translates

433
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:42.599
over to the tournaments, then this
one's gonna be pretty fun and probably pretty

434
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:48.359
valuable. The time slot, as
you mentioned, I think is great,

435
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.400
you know, even without like the
win slash semino beforehand, just the fact

436
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.119
that this leads right into WPT Chalktaw. As far as I know, in

437
00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.519
order to get the Chalktaw you got
to fly into somewhere in Texas like Dallas

438
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.720
or wherever and then drive up.
At least that's I believe that's how it's

439
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.319
done. So so why not come
a little bit earlier, play this,

440
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.759
then go on up to chalkdaw you
know, in a way, I think

441
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.920
this can also benefit Chalkdaw right,
I mean, players get you know,

442
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.799
more bang for their buck in terms
of a time frame, you know,

443
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:23.279
spend two to three weeks playing poker
in that region. So so yeah,

444
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:29.039
chalkdaw always draws really well. All
these Texas rooms seem to be gangbusters,

445
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.000
you know, with with the numbers
that they put out, So I would

446
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:37.079
expect very good things out of Texas
and for this Texas Poker open all details

447
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:42.160
are available over on Champions Club Texas
dot com. So yeah, if you

448
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:47.680
want to check out the room itself, see what's available. I believe you

449
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:51.640
can do all of the hotel bookings
right through there. They have seventy one

450
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:56.119
rooms at their hotel. I mean, all these pictures look super nice.

451
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.839
You've been there, so you'll tell
me if I'm an idiot. But it's

452
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.480
the room's a nice, The food
is great. The food is the most

453
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:07.480
underrated thing about the property. So
if you want to stay rated, everyone

454
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.720
tells me about the food, so
I would say it's properly rated. I

455
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.000
mean that's like the first thing everyone
says to me. Jeff, you don't

456
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.640
really talk about a poker venue and
lead with food, though, is what

457
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.039
I mean. So, like,
I don't know, you should just come

458
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:29.880
and have like a steak delivered to
you that's on fire while you're playing one

459
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.759
to No Limit hold them in the
meetup game or whatever Brent and Jeff cook

460
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:36.839
up. You can have a steak
delivered to you, it's on fire and

461
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.799
you're eating it at the table.
It's the best experience ever. Well,

462
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:42.720
I don't know if I'm going to
be playing any one too, just because

463
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:46.599
I will just absolutely dust off and
catch the whole point. It's not the

464
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:49.680
whole point, not for my bank. Well no, no, thanks,

465
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:55.400
all right, moving on, I
listen. It's been around for a little

466
00:32:55.400 --> 00:33:00.079
while now, I still don't exactly
know where things stay. And what I'm

467
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:07.400
getting at is the Jeremy Becker versus
land Entice bet wager situation whatever you want

468
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.519
to call it. Apologies for my
dogs. They are going crazy and they

469
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:19.119
will not shut up. So basically
you have Jeremy Becker going against land Entice

470
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:23.880
in I'm guessing it's mutually played events. I know that. So this all

471
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:29.279
spawned from like a back and forth
between Daniel Legrandu and Matt Burkey. Okay,

472
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.400
in a way, it's like they're
kind of like the the Masters,

473
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:39.519
and then like the Becker Entice are
like the protege is coming up. So

474
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:45.359
it's kind of this like old school
versus new school, like kind of live

475
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:50.480
field player versus gto sOliver kid.
Like, it's got all these different angles

476
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:58.640
right now. One of the interesting
parts about this wager or competition, whatever

477
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:00.440
you want to call it, is
that, like the d Tales, at

478
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:04.799
least as far as I know,
aren't fully solidified yet I think like it

479
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:08.000
all kind of came about in the
first half of February. Everyone was getting

480
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.000
all crazy, people were making bets, even I made bets, okay,

481
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.880
but then I'm like, what,
we don't even really know the terms.

482
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.239
You know, first it was like
mutually played events at the World Series of

483
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:22.440
Poker. Then it seems like it
kind of span to more stuff just during

484
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.400
this time frame during the summer.
I know, Daniel was talking about on

485
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:29.639
Dat Poker podcast that like he's kind
of open to whatever doesn't matter for him.

486
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.679
He's crossbooking Becker against Tye versus Burkie's
camp, and he's taken a hundred

487
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:37.360
percent of the crossbooks, so you
know, kind of at the end of

488
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:42.440
the day, whatever they decide upon
terms wise, you know, Daniels seems

489
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.199
like he's pretty fine with but they're
gonna go with it. But it kind

490
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.559
of also makes things a little bit
weird for I guess people like me who

491
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:51.639
have already bet sides and we don't
actually know the full terms of it,

492
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:52.920
but you know, it is what
it is. You and I haven't really

493
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.159
talked about it much, so I
guess I want to get your temperature on,

494
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:58.079
Like, what do you think about
it, like, who do you

495
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:00.800
think is gonna come on on top? Like are you are you on team

496
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:02.679
Becker? Are you on team Tice? Like well, what's your opinion here?

497
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.599
I think it's stupid. What you
think it's stupid? Or come on?

498
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:14.320
I mean it's not stupid. This
is great Land and Land and recently

499
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:17.480
want a tournament at the wind like
he's he's using the same cards that Jeremy

500
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:21.360
always uses in the tournaments, you
know, throwing a little friendly dig at

501
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.559
him, like it's I'll tell you, I'll tell you why it's stupid because

502
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.760
we're three what are we three months
out from the World Series? Cool?

503
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:32.119
They don't don't even have the terms
identified. There's also loopholes. I'll give

504
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:38.280
you the hypothetical Jeremy Becker registers on
time in the one K Turbo and he's

505
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:44.719
running up a chip stack Land and
Tye should just find like, go find

506
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:49.559
Jeremy Becker. Oh he has eight
eight x starting stack in level three.

507
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.800
I'm just gonna sit this one out. And then the event doesn't think that's

508
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:57.800
that's They're going to iron all that
stuff, so iron out the details and

509
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.920
presented to the world. The world
that seems to care so much about his

510
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:06.480
little silly battle, then I don't
have much interest in it. I like

511
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:09.239
the idea, I like the the
fact that it's like a there's some heat

512
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:15.079
between both sides. I love that
thing. But get me some rules and

513
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.760
find me on May twenty eighth,
then I'll give you my temperature reading on

514
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.800
it. Wow, you're just you're
just poop pooing the whole damn thing.

515
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:27.599
Well, I'm on team Becker.
I'll just put it out there. Already

516
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:30.880
tried betting. I already already got
some money down on team Becker again.

517
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:35.400
Haven't find out the rules, I
will select a side. That's my point.

518
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:37.800
You know, I have to.
I have to. I kind of

519
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:42.199
want to take Landing. I kind
of want to take Becker, but I

520
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:45.199
need more info. Yeah, I
mean, I'm also kind of like I

521
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:46.800
need more info as well. But
you know, I also just kind of

522
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:50.880
want to back Becker in this.
You know, nothing against land and Tice.

523
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:52.320
I think he's a very good player, and I like him as well.

524
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:57.840
You know, I'm just in this
situation, I'm going with that that

525
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:04.360
live grinder in this regard who I
mean, I don't know who's actually making

526
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.920
the the odds for this or if
people are just spouting out nonsense. But

527
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:09.360
it sounds like Becker is the favorite. People are like, yeah, he's

528
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:13.280
minus one ten, I'll take Tyson
at plus one ten. Well, I

529
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.639
don't understand why this is just even
money across the board. So yeah,

530
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:21.880
but I'm I'm on team Becker,
but you know I am listen, I

531
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:23.960
will echo that, you know.
I would like the terms to come out

532
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:30.280
to kind of slidify things. I
do think from a content perspective, like

533
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.800
I'm always like team content at the
end of the day, So I think

534
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.960
this is going to create some good
content for the series, you know,

535
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:45.480
almost so much so that I feel
like all media outlets, ourself included,

536
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:52.000
should like dedicate actual time and resources
to this thing. Do you remember the

537
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:53.800
like in like every like livestoom that
we do, we should have like a

538
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:58.639
Becker versus Tys. No, We've
got more important things to promine me.

539
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:00.079
No, come on, If this
is what's people care about, and this

540
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.920
is what the people, I'll tell
you what it is smart to do.

541
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:08.000
If you're out there fill listen to
us and you're an up and coming poker

542
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:14.840
media person, go buy the domain. I don't know becka v tie or

543
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:16.960
whatever it is, whatever that you
can think of. And then you know

544
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:22.599
how there's that website that tracks online
streams, like how much people win or

545
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:29.320
lose. I remember when Nigrano was
playing polk online and people there was like

546
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:34.440
a tracking of every match they played
or every session they played. You need

547
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.239
to own that. If you're like
a freelance media guy, you should own

548
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.400
that. Just go out there,
buy the domain. Track every event,

549
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:45.360
like get a media badge at the
World Series, follow them round and like

550
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.159
do like a live blog. Land
and Tys just sat down in event five,

551
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.360
Jeremy Becker no where to be found, and like update the stats.

552
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:57.079
Just own all that content. There's
my advice to someone out there that wants

553
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.360
to have a fun summer project,
because I ain't doing it. I mean,

554
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.880
you don't necessarily have to do it. I'm assuming they're gonna have a

555
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:08.719
lot of regular updates. I'm assuming
Daniel's gonna have his vlog back just about

556
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:12.440
every day. I know. I
know it might not be every single day,

557
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.880
because he might have some days off
this year at the World Series of

558
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.000
Poker, but for the most part, you know he's going to be doing

559
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:22.599
some some updates, which I'm guessing
he's gonna be fined in Jeremy within that

560
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:27.920
and talking about how that thing's going
as well. So and also like listen,

561
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:31.280
there's it seems like even now,
even before the terms are out there,

562
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:37.760
there is enough money that's been wagered
on both sides of this that people

563
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:39.440
are gonna want updates. I mean
that's just how it is. So you

564
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:44.079
know, people are going to want
updates. So somebody's got to have to

565
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:47.679
make that happen one way or the
other. And I think somebody good.

566
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:52.119
I mean, if I if I
was Poker News, I would I would

567
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:55.000
dive into this. I would like
stick one person on them NonStop. Kind

568
00:39:55.039 --> 00:40:00.360
of this is similar to twenty five
K Fantasy, right, Like supposedly something's

569
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:06.519
happening with Pokeeronews this year where they're
going to track the people that's drafted better.

570
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:09.280
I mean they should be tracking them
anyway, But like, I mean,

571
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.039
the people that are drafted in twenty
five K Fantasy are like the one

572
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.760
percent of the one percent of the
people that play it that are to be

573
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:20.559
anyway. Yeah, Dane Sean deep
phil Ivy feel like it's like these people

574
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.079
should be you should have their chip
guns updated every fifteen minutes. Anyway.

575
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:27.320
I mean, if there's no like
this is, this is what I would

576
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:31.039
suggest. And I know Daniel Listens, I know ODB Listens. I would

577
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:37.880
hire someone let's call him Mickey Draft
or whoever that cares, not just some

578
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:42.400
bum off the street, someone that
cares. I would say, we're going

579
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:46.239
to pay you to do only twenty
five K fantasy. Who's paying. I'm

580
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:49.199
going to tell you how we're going
to do it. We're going to free

581
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.599
roll you a team in the thing
in the twenty five K fantasy draft.

582
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:58.400
So Mickey gets a twenty five K
team and he gets let's call it ten

583
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:02.119
ODB teams for free, right,
and he's obviously going to work on the

584
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:07.800
back end. But now he has
significant upside. Right now, Look,

585
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.400
okay, how is he going to
pay for room and board? Well,

586
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.920
he can sell some of his team, some of his action on Pocus take,

587
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.880
so he could sell. I would
never agree. Just let me let

588
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:24.480
me tell you. I need guaranteed
money. Okay, this is a contract.

589
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:30.800
This is guaranteed money. You could
know it's not sell sell some percentage

590
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:36.559
of your team for cash to offset
some of the accommodation cars. But you're

591
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:40.760
you're basically banking on the upside of
winning. Can you imagine if you got

592
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:45.159
paid to do updates for the whole
summer and then you want a quarter million

593
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:51.079
dollars? Like that's what I'm saying. You're banking on upside. Now,

594
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:55.159
you know you're going to probably spend
five k accommodation, but like it's an

595
00:41:55.280 --> 00:42:00.280
r I ploy, you know,
and yes, you should probably sell some

596
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.599
of your team so you can have
some money, Like you might want to

597
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.239
sell you know, ten percent,
so twenty five hundred bucks, right,

598
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:13.360
and then you've got the ODB teams. But that doesn't really cost ODB or

599
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:16.480
Daniel that much. It obviously just
dilutes the prize pool a little bit.

600
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:22.159
But I think everyone that does twenty
five K fantasy would be like, that's

601
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:24.840
fine. I think I'm okay with
that because that's what they care about.

602
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:28.400
They care about these updates. So
you do it all on the website.

603
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:31.840
Your sole job for the summer is
just tracking twenty five K fantasy plays.

604
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:36.840
You walk around the world series.
This guy just sat, this guy's out,

605
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:39.440
and just simple as that. If
you think about it, there's a

606
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:45.719
lot of upside for someone doing it
that cares and also knows what they're doing

607
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:50.119
drafting, I think you would one
hundred percent do it if you didn't have

608
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:52.280
a full time job. Yeah,
I mean, listen, I thought I

609
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.440
knew what I was doing drafting,
and I will owe for every single year.

610
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:59.119
I mean, that's just how it
is. There's a lot of variance

611
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.559
that comes into this thing. There's
a lot of variants in poker itself.

612
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:06.639
Imagine the variance that's in fantasy poker. I mean, that's just crazy to

613
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:09.679
me. But it's it's twelve teams. The variance is a lot less than

614
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:14.559
there was twenty teams last time.
But well, we're going down here,

615
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:19.079
then everyone's broke. No, yeah, I think it's actually going up too.

616
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:22.840
But okay, let's say there's twenty
teams, right, Let's say there's

617
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:28.239
nineteen teams, and then the one
bonus team is the media team, the

618
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:30.599
real media team. And like,
look, if you're Mickey, split it

619
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:35.840
in half Mickey or like person A
person B. You can do your shifts.

620
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.960
You can sell sell you know,
twenty percent, sure whatever you want,

621
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.960
ten percent, figure it out,
get some money back. You can

622
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.679
also do stuff on the side there's
probably a lot of you know, content

623
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:51.480
and editorial writing. You could do
four a poker News four poker dot org

624
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:57.320
to supplement the income that is related
to twenty five k fantasy. So there's

625
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:00.559
ways to survive money wise. But
you're basically saying, you know what,

626
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:06.920
I'm gambling because you know what,
everyone in this industry, they all gamble.

627
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:12.280
They're gambling on potentially winning two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars. One hundred

628
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.440
fifty thousand dollars. Yeah, I
mean fifty dollars. I wouldn't gamble on

629
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:17.440
it. I would just rather like, yeah, but you have a more

630
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:23.239
consistent real income. I'm talking about
the freelancers out there, like you know

631
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:27.119
which, I would not do that
as a freelancer. I just wouldn't.

632
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.880
I wouldn't gamble on that because you
you need to have a guaranteed money coming

633
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:35.760
out. That's why you sell some
of your team. No, that's the

634
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:39.599
guaranteed money because think about it.
If you sell, if you hypothetically sold

635
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:43.559
fifty percent, right, you're going
to get twelve and a half k,

636
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:47.480
which is a summer salary for some
of these freelancers. Even more. Now,

637
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:52.440
if you win, sure you have
to pay that fifty percent back,

638
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:54.079
so one hundred and twenty five k, But you just want one hundred and

639
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:59.079
twenty five k for yourself, so
selling some of your team, you could

640
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:04.039
sell it at less than even money
and get money back if you just just

641
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:07.719
if you think about it, I
bet you'll be like, you know what,

642
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.239
that's actually a pretty good idea.
It's it's only plus EV for the

643
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:15.920
for the guy getting free road by
Nigrano and ODB, And I'm like,

644
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:22.000
I'm like ninety five percent sure that
ninety percent of the people in the twenty

645
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.360
five k would be okay with it, and the ODB one, that's what

646
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:30.000
ODB runs that he just says,
that's what we're doing, as simple as

647
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.559
that. Yeah, I mean I
would, I think I would try and

648
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:40.239
find some sort of way to cover
this thing if I was poker steak dot

649
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:46.679
com because I feel like, independently, poker steak dot com should be hiring

650
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:52.599
someone to cover all of their players
that are selling action. Yeah. Yeah,

651
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:54.159
I mean we've talked about that a
lot. Yeah, I mean like

652
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:58.519
I feel like that's like I feel
like poker Steak should invest like in like

653
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:02.800
a team of two people all summer
to be like hey, you know whatever,

654
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:06.760
and then like you get you get
a list, Hey, these people

655
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:08.679
sold action for this event. Let's
make sure that we update them every single

656
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:13.360
day. Like you know, maybe
you get contacts of those players that are

657
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.920
selling actions, so if they move
seats or whatever, you can kind of

658
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:17.880
always just keep tabs on them,
and you know you're only focusing on it.

659
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:22.119
I mean in a way, so
poker steak dot com for those that

660
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:27.679
don't know, used to be pocket
fives dot com, right, you know,

661
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.719
they were purchased and they did a
domain switch, brand switch whatever.

662
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:35.400
Now they are, you know,
predominantly a staking platform. But back in

663
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:38.440
the day, like two thousand and
eight, two thousand and nine, Pocketfies

664
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:45.280
Live, they used to just track
people the online guys that were like ranked

665
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:49.719
highly on the Pocketfy's leaderboards. Like
so in a way, you're bringing it

666
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:53.360
back poker steak Live like whatever,
and you're you're just updating those people because

667
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:58.559
like you know, yeah, like
it's great for like when I sell action

668
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.599
on poker Steak, like I selection
on pokers, say, okay, I

669
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:05.760
don't I don't like to like tweet
out my chip count. I don't like

670
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:07.239
to do that I don't like when
I see other people doing it. I

671
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.519
hate when I do it right.
But I also know that, like I

672
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.880
want to update the people that are
invested in me. I get it,

673
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:16.920
Like if it's friends and family,
Like, yeah, it's very easy.

674
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:20.760
I fire up a WhatsApp group where
I make a group text message or whatever,

675
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:22.239
and I just update in there,
like that's very simple. But I

676
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.159
can't do this to people that are
just unknown to me that are buying through

677
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:30.920
this platform. But if there was
some sort of like live updates feature within

678
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:34.239
this, I think that that would
be great to have, you know,

679
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:37.760
and that it's just constantly updated,
and like, you know, they don't.

680
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:40.840
I don't think the volume is there
where like one or two people can't

681
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:45.440
handle this for a whole summer,
and you know, you're just updating somebody's

682
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:49.800
chip count every what half hour,
you know, every twenty minutes to a

683
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.880
half hour or so. I think
that that's fairly doable. You can find

684
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:54.880
out where they cash, enter results
like all that sort of stuff. I

685
00:47:54.880 --> 00:48:00.440
think that that would be kind of
a next step thing for the poke steak

686
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.559
dot com platform. And then you
know, I would I would tie in

687
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:06.480
the twenty five K. And the
reason that I would tie in the twenty

688
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:12.280
five K fantasy is because we know
that it's popular and it includes all the

689
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:15.599
popular players at the World Series of
Poker, and also it's something that the

690
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.760
popular players talk about constantly on social
media and whatnot. So that's a way

691
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:23.079
to generate more traffic for poker steak
dot com. So would include that in

692
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:29.320
the job responsibilities of said person or
said team if you if you bring them

693
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.199
on to do that, I think
that would be a cool little thing for

694
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:34.960
poker steak dot com. Now,
if you're Pokernews dot com, I mean,

695
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.960
yeah, it's it's it's good to
cover these people, but like,

696
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:42.559
I don't know, it doesn't really
like I mean when when I was a

697
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:45.800
Poker News and when you were like
working with them as well, like it

698
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:51.199
we covered the draft and stuff like
that, but like you didn't go too

699
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:54.840
crazy with like the actual coverage of
what was happening because that was just what

700
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:58.639
you were doing anyway. Like you're
the official live updates team, so you're

701
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:00.519
just doing a lot of that coverage
any way, and as long as you're

702
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:06.880
generally on top of things within the
grand scheme of being the official live updates

703
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:08.840
team for the Dipcipe. Then you're
going to cover all these players. Like

704
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:14.880
that's just how it is. So
I don't know how much it benefits Poker

705
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:19.400
News to like go out of their
way to like dedicate stuff to like just

706
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:22.159
the twenty five K players, because
in a way that might mean they take

707
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:25.920
away from other stuff, and you
don't want to do that. Like it

708
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:30.039
should just be known that you're going
to cover these twenty five K players.

709
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.119
Like that is very simple. Like
it's just there's like two hunderd players.

710
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:36.880
I mean, just that those players
are on your like your tier one,

711
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:39.800
tier two list, you're just always
covering them. End of story. I

712
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:44.039
mean there's a reason that they're drafted. They're good players, they're well known,

713
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.639
et cetera. Like you know,
you're like it's very rare that,

714
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:52.480
like you're a total unknown is getting
drafted very very rare and probably was drafted

715
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.079
by my team a lot of times. But that's just how it is.

716
00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:00.280
I would say that, look,
you know, I preached this idea of

717
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:05.559
free rolling whatever a team. You
know, you could also just argue that,

718
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:07.920
hey, Ne Groner, why don't
you just pay this guy out of

719
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:09.920
your pocket. Well, he probably
doesn't want to, regardless of how rich

720
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:14.760
he is. The other option is, actually, you know it's twenty five

721
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:16.800
k, buy in, right,
you make it a twenty five plus one

722
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:21.280
one K. Now, if you
don't want to pay the one k,

723
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:27.800
that's fine. Your team isn't in
the updates, like you're basically opting out

724
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:31.039
of the updates. Now, if
we know who's in this draft room,

725
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:36.639
if they're spending twenty five, they're
spending twenty six, and that's how you

726
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:38.159
that's how you cover it. Then
you don't have to dilute the prize poll.

727
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:43.599
Maybe it's if they're getting twenty teams, maybe it's not one. Oh

728
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:46.159
no, fuck it whatever, twenty
five plus one k and you get updates

729
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:47.960
for the whole summer of your team. You don't have to pay it.

730
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:52.519
You can opt out, right,
that's probably a better way to do it.

731
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:58.920
I think I think you could actually
do it much cheaper for so you

732
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:00.800
would and were I mean, this
is not on our list, but whatever,

733
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:07.199
we're just rifflin. So we're going
to go with this. Twenty five

734
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:09.400
plus one is plus one thousand is
way too much money. Twenty k for

735
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:12.960
the summer, I know, it's
not when you affector accommodation. No listen,

736
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:15.840
it's too much money for like me
as a team entering. You can

737
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.079
opt out that opt out, no
listen, But listen to what I'm gonna

738
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:24.519
say. You do like twenty five
thousand plus let's say three hundred I don't

739
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:30.119
know, two hundred whatever, Okay, there are six hundred ODB teams.

740
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:37.639
They could pay fifteen bucks each.
But the thing is the thing is that

741
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:42.159
the six hundred ODB teams are only
drafting based on the players that are drafted

742
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.079
in twenty five k. So it's
not like you're going to have six hundred

743
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:50.760
times ten players that like, so
that six thousand players that the person or

744
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:53.119
the team is going to have to
cover, the person still only covers the

745
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:58.920
core group of players plus the you
know, the ODB whatever he calls them,

746
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:00.599
the extra players or whatever they are
that they put it in there.

747
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:04.000
There's like a handful of like five
to ten of them. So like,

748
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.119
but you still like you can log
in and see so like cause like,

749
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.119
what what's what's an extra ten or
fifteen bucks for an ODB team? How

750
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:14.760
much the AB teams I can't remember, they're five hundred but then if you

751
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:16.440
get the if you buy the extra
player, I think they're five twenty five,

752
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:21.440
so you know, just make it
like five forty, Yeah, make

753
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:23.280
it five forty with whatever who cares, and then you put that money in

754
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:27.519
there. And like they're like,
there's also like there's some cost. There's

755
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:30.280
someone who runs the website. I
know that for a fact. I talk

756
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:31.880
with them every summer, like on
the scoring and like making sure that things

757
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:34.920
are up to date and whatnot,
because they know I'm on the floor and

758
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.880
whatnot. But it's like, the
answer is that would be very simple.

759
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.960
That's like between all that you can
easily get up to like ten k if

760
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:45.519
you price it right. It's gonna
say. The answer is there is an

761
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:52.960
answer. It's just does the Grano
slash RDBA want to rely on Pocony's updates

762
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.920
and no offense to Poconi's But yes, they were supposed to be following Eric

763
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:00.039
Sidel and you know, Brian Rass, but they also have a lot of

764
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:04.639
other jobs they're doing during the event, and you know, yes, things

765
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:07.800
will fall through the cracks. Or
do you want to hire a team of

766
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:15.079
two people and literally their only responsibility
is the one hundred and something people that

767
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:19.559
are drafted in twenty five K fantasy. I think that's the best idea.

768
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:22.199
Just figuring out how much you kind
of want to allocate it. Your idea

769
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:25.639
is good too, like smaller rich, but you rake Odie Bays, I

770
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:30.000
still like the free roll. I
think that's a pretty cool option where it

771
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:35.760
costs no one anything. But this
is not us to decide. We just

772
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:39.480
want to be part of a lot
of places out there. Do quote unquote

773
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:43.199
maintenance fees, you know, Like
I mean, there is a cost to

774
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:45.039
operate stuff. We get it,
you know, so, so yeah,

775
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:49.039
I will say this in regards to
twenty five K, I do think it

776
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.559
is a It is a step in
the right direction in terms of like the

777
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:57.000
updates and the points and the leaderboard. Not having the online events count.

778
00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:00.480
Now as a team motor and somebody
who did lean into the online stuff,

779
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:07.679
maybe more so than other teams,
maybe that puts me at a disadvantage,

780
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:09.440
or maybe it makes with the advantage
that I think I have a little bit

781
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:14.039
smaller. But I also think that
the fact that we have to wait three

782
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:16.039
to four days for the updates to
come in in terms of like who cash

783
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:19.639
we're in a WSP event. It's
just absurd, So we can't. He

784
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.000
can't have it, like it's just
not like it is. It'd be like

785
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:24.599
playing fantasy basketball for the NBA and
you have to wait four days for like

786
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:28.360
the score to come out. Like
this is not it's not possible. You

787
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.239
can't do it, Okay, So
so we're just going to be moving on.

788
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:35.199
So so the online events, Daniel
has already stated that those won't be

789
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:38.559
counting this year, you know,
so it does as it pertains to me,

790
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:43.800
it is going to change my rankings
a little bit. You know,

791
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:46.159
Like we were big on John Reard
in last year. No one kind of

792
00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:50.079
the schedule that he would play live, but also that he would be blasting

793
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:53.000
everything online and we got a lot
of points from that. So same with

794
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:58.639
Sean Deebe. You know, he's
gunning for everything because everything counts for Player

795
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:02.920
of the Year. So does it
change a little bit this year. I

796
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:07.360
mean, we'll have to see how
things go. But I'm excited to be

797
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:12.119
backing and yeah, it's going to
be fun. All right. Last thing

798
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:15.519
we're going to talk about here the
Triton Poker Series. It's still ongoing.

799
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:21.960
I believe they're in the tail end
of their schedule over in the JJU.

800
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:23.559
Yeah, they go they go no
them at hold them, then they go

801
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:27.119
plo, then they go short deck, right. I mean that's like how

802
00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:34.039
it it passes or how it runs
out. I mean the numbers from this

803
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:38.960
series were just out of control,
I mean obscene. All the events are

804
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:44.199
big byans. The lowest byan is
a fifteen K. They have fifteens,

805
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:46.440
they got twenty twenty five's they got, they got the random bians like they

806
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:50.880
got a thirty k on here,
they got a thirty five plus two plus

807
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:54.440
fifteen. That's a bounty tournament.
You know, it's Tryon does some unique

808
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:58.199
stuff. I believe they've had like
a seventy five K in the past.

809
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:00.360
You know, they have one hundred
and fifty K, so it's it's interesting

810
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:07.000
for sure. Some of the event
winners so far Fadoor Holtz, Adrian Matteos,

811
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:12.679
Dimatar Danchev, Puna Punstrie. But
the event that Dan Smith won an

812
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.679
event as well. The event I
want to talk about is this this main

813
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:20.400
event of THEIRS, which is one
hundred K tournament. I mean this thing

814
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:29.079
two hundred and sixteen entries. I
mean that blows anti hundred k out of

815
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:34.280
the water, like WSP, WPT, PGT, what whatever one hundred k

816
00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:37.320
you throw at me. This is
the biggest by far, by far.

817
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:44.199
I mean it's out of control.
I mean, what are what are they

818
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:46.559
doing over there? What are they
put in the water? Man? I

819
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:52.519
don't know. I mean we all
know why they have such huge numbers as

820
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:57.159
people playing these events that don't really
play anything else. You know, they

821
00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:00.480
stay in Asia and all they want
to do is gamble four times a year

822
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:05.559
and at these four trying stops they
come and they fire, and that brings

823
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:12.320
the value for you know, Americans
and Canadians and Australians and anywhere from around

824
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:19.639
the world coming to play at play
buyings that they would not normally play.

825
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:23.519
Fields are a little softer. Therefore
these guys are jumping in and they just

826
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:29.519
get incredibly large, and it's it's
it's kind of staggering to just watch from

827
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:34.119
Afar and to see these numbers climbing. Yeah, I'm kind of wondering where

828
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:39.519
where the top is for this,
you know, like I don't know in

829
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:45.079
a way, like I kind of
look at Triton like Bitcoin, like it

830
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:50.119
just keeps going up, but like
is the top seventy three. K Well,

831
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:52.079
if is this the top and like
they're going to start pulling back or

832
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.239
is like whatever the next stop is. I don't even know what the next

833
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:59.480
stop is. So for you try
and rides on the back of bitcoin,

834
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:01.599
so keeps going when Chin and keeps
going. Yeah, but I mean that

835
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:06.639
could also break. That's not Yes, is the next hundred cave main events

836
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:08.079
they have going to have two hundred
and forty entries or is it like,

837
00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:10.599
is this the top and they're going
to start to pull back? I mean

838
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:16.679
I think the next stop is Montenegro, so just a considerably more expensive place.

839
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:22.480
So I don't know if that's going
to care No, but I think

840
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:23.840
it matters. You know, there's
a lot of people taking shots in these

841
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:28.000
like you you saw the names on
Pocus Steake. You know, a lot

842
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:34.639
of our David Coleman, Matas Symbolas, Jesse Lonez. You know these players

843
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:38.000
that are traveling for like the first
time or definitely playing outside of their normal

844
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:42.840
buy and range. You know,
they went to Jju, they knew what

845
00:58:42.920 --> 00:58:47.559
to expect there, but Montenegro is
maybe different. Maybe not all of the

846
00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:52.440
people that are based in Asia will
travel there obviously a majority will but maybe

847
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:57.039
not all of them. So therefore
it's not as soft as as the Jaju

848
00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:01.440
one, so maybe you see slightly
less numbers. Yeah, I mean,

849
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:07.480
these these tournaments are just as I
said, they're bananas. I mean I

850
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:14.000
talked about this hundred k, twenty
one point six million dollar prize pool.

851
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:19.079
Roman Haravic was the winner for four
million, three hundred and thirty thousand.

852
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:25.159
Everyone's favorite older blaster Jean Noel Threll
JNT took second place for almost two point

853
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:30.960
nine million. Elton Sang got third, Patrick Antonius fourth, Tias Ebinger fifth.

854
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:36.480
So, I mean, it's just
crazy. The Triton stops are just

855
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:38.079
absolutely out of control. I mean, I don't know what to say.

856
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:42.800
I mean, it's wild, like
in a way, I kind of think

857
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:47.639
like this is what the Onyx Cup
was supposed to be back in the day.

858
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:52.280
I remember the full till Onyx Cup
like it was before It's time,

859
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:54.159
the whole online poker stuff like all
that sort of stuff like you know,

860
00:59:54.840 --> 01:00:00.199
caused it ultimately not to work out. Triton is just I mean, it's

861
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:05.599
just crushing it. It's just absolutely
crushing it with this with this series,

862
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:10.039
I Also, I really like what
Trayton does in terms of like only having

863
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:15.960
a few stops a year, like
really not really not worried too much about

864
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:20.000
expanding to like eight, ten,
twelve stops a year. You know,

865
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:24.000
like it it would be it would
be easy, you know, to be

866
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:28.719
like, these are great, let's
do more of them, right, I

867
01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:31.199
mean, that would be obvious.
But I also think that, you know,

868
01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:36.679
that can lead to maybe watering it
down a little bit. And because

869
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:40.239
there are only a handful of them
every single year, that a lot of

870
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:44.719
players kind of put all their eggs
in one basket, so to speak.

871
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.440
They're like, Okay, I'm going
to kind of save up I've been doing

872
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:50.920
well whatever. I'm going to take
my shot in JJU. I'm going to

873
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:52.400
take my shot in Montenegor. I'm
going to take my shot here, my

874
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:54.880
shot there, you know, and
I'm going to put a lot on the

875
01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:58.679
line and if it works out,
great, If it doesn't, okay,

876
01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:01.679
fine, But but yeah, I
mean, if you just have like too

877
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:07.320
many of these, it can just
I mean, the too many at these

878
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:09.679
buy ins, Like how long these
series are? I mean, this series

879
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:15.440
and JJU started on March fifth,
and it's going to end on March twenty

880
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:20.920
first. You know, so that's
more than two weeks of massive, massive

881
01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:25.000
buyings. So like normally, normally
these events are on the series, sorry

882
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:30.360
are only two weeks, but this
one, even two weeks at these price

883
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:34.800
points is insane. Yeah, I
mean it's like, how much money are

884
01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:37.760
you spending here? This is a
couple of big Quinn, Yeah, exactly,

885
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:43.239
a couple of big I mean it's
just wild. So but yeah,

886
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:46.280
the tread and stuff is just wild. Every time I feel like they've that

887
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:50.559
they can't go any higher, that
they go higher, like it is basically

888
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:53.400
what I'm getting at here. So
I think it's really good for the poker

889
01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:58.800
community overall. You know, seeing
a lot of these players out there battling

890
01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:01.800
people taking shots. It was good
to see Jesse Lonis head on over there.

891
01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:07.079
And yeah, still waiting for that
time when Dan and Legranduo heads one

892
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:08.880
over there. I know he's talked
about it, how he wants to go.

893
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:13.679
He's on the fence of a try
and stop. And I'm always kind

894
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:16.280
of wondering if they're ever going to
make their way this way in the world

895
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:23.519
now, not to the States,
but somewhere in the Caribbean you know something

896
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:27.079
like that, like, could they
do it? I don't know. I

897
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:29.480
mean, I know a lot of
places have gone there for some other big

898
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:31.000
buy and stuff. I remember,
like the WPT had some ALF eight and

899
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:36.519
whatnot, So could you do that
sort of thing? I mean, I'm

900
01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:39.079
assuming that could be kind of in
the cards. But but yeah, I

901
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:43.519
Triton is just out of control in
a good way, of course. So

902
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:47.239
so all right, I got nothing
else to talk about. Man, we

903
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:52.679
talked too long about the twenty five
K fantasy for no reason. I mean,

904
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:57.679
we care about it because it's fun
and I'm the defending champ. And

905
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:00.599
and just if someone gets that that
twin five k free roll from Daniel,

906
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:05.679
just send us. Just send us
the one percent free roll for the idea,

907
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:09.639
send us the one percent. Wow. I don't know, man,

908
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:13.360
that's a lot for a free roll. I don't know about that one,

909
01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:15.800
but hey, who knows? Who
knows? All right, that's gonna do

910
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:19.840
it for us. My name is
Donnie Peters. His name is Tim Duckworth.

911
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.840
We'll probably come to you guys after
PLO series is wrapped up. I

912
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:27.760
feel like I've been over promising under
delivering, So now I'm going to under

913
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:31.599
promise and hopefully over deliver. That's
the plan here doing doing kind of what

914
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:36.000
Daniel is doing in terms of the
quality over quantity approach, but with the

915
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:38.880
content stuff. That's what I'm trying
to go for here. Okay, but

916
01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:44.840
you know, it feels like we're
gonna be at the World Series of Poker

917
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:47.239
before we know it. So as
far as Tim and I are concerned,

918
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:52.599
we better get ready to be podcasting
every single day because that's what we're gonna

919
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:57.440
need to do. God, God, wait, I absolutely cannot wait for

920
01:03:57.519 --> 01:04:00.880
the summer to come around. But
in between now and then, we have

921
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:04.320
a whole lot of stuff coming and
it starts on Wednesday with the PGT PLO

922
01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:08.760
series. Hope that you guys will
join us both to follow the live reporting

923
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:11.920
over on PGT dot com and also
on poker Grow and the poker Grow YouTube

924
01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:15.239
channel for the live streams. All
right, that's gonna do it for us.

925
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:20.480
We will talk to you guys next
time. Peace. Jenny Express