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What Up? What Up? Everybody? Welcome to another episode of Let's Ask

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Paul, the podcast where you get
to ask me anything you want about the

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National Electrical Code or electrically related subject
matter. Now, I've been doing podcasts

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for people and answering code questions for
over twenty plus years. When I started

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all this back when I was in
Virginia, and this is well before the

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Internet. This was before anything about
podcasts or anything about web streaming or YouTube

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existed. This was what I used
to do on AOL and I used to

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upload them to a repository, and
because I was heavily involved within education back

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in Virginia, then I used to
share the access to the folder with people

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that would attend my seminars. And
I started that many many years ago,

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and it kind of just shared out
all over the state and so people were

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listening to you know, they were
kind of crude at the time, obviously,

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before technologies made things a lot different. But it still is a way

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for me to share information. And
I remember working on websites personally creating websites

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all the way back in the nineties
early nineties, so it dates back a

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long way that I've been doing this
thing. Online. And so here we

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are in twenty twenty four and I'm
still doing it, still doing the same

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thing. Technology has gotten a little
bit better today to be able to do

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some of the things that I like
to do, you know, the sound

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effects and all this kind of stuff
is much easier to do today than it

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was way back then. But if
you've never listened to my podcast before,

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you know it's there's so many different
topics that we cover, and I don't

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do a good job. I mean, I acknowledge this. Yeah, I

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don't do a good good job at
indexing or titling these things because you never

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know what I'm going to talk about
in an episode, So I get it.

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That's on me. And uh,
I don't know that that'll change because

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again I always tell people I have
attention deficit disorder, and when I'm doing

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something, I'm just you know,
I don't keep track of it to index

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it. Well, at some point, maybe somebody will volunteer to listen to

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all my podcasts and index it for
me and then send me new titles for

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all of my episodes. There you
go. If I got anybody out there

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that wants to do that, go
for it, right, all right?

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So today's episode, and let's ask
Paul. It's a little different. Even

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though it is going to be electric, it's electrical theory, and it's a

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question that I could ask a lot, and so I'll kind of take the

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question and kind of spin it into
my own kind of question that I'm going

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to answer for people. When you
peruse through social media or you pruise through

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other online resources, and there's a
lot of questions that people will ask about.

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You know, Okay, what is
two forty vaults? What is a

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split phase system? Why is it
called that? And some choose not to

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call it that? How do we
get to forty vaults if it's two one

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twenties that come to a receptacle let's
say for a dryer or range, And

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why would you need the neutral and
some of those ocasions and why would you

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not when it comes to the branch
circuits and all that. So we're going

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to kind of talk about that in
today's episodes. So there's a lot of

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information that we're going to try to
cover today. And of course, as

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always, if you have additional questions, just remember this episode. I don't

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know the number of the episodes,
so you take no of the episode number

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when you write this down at the
end and go to Paul Abernathy dot com

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and do a response and let me
know what episode. Give me a brief

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summary of what your question is and
what you're trying to clarify, and then

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I will obviously go into more details
so we can make it an ongoing discussion

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if you want. I'm a code
guy, but you know from years of

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working in the apprenticeship programs and teaching
and all that, you know, I

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like to talk to people and explain
things also with electrical that they may find

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a complicated subject that type of thing. So anyway, while I was looking

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at this question, and Darling got
this question to me and kind of pushed

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it ahead of a couple of other
ones because again it's a theory question or

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topic that I wanted to take the
opportunity to talk about it. And so

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I remember when she said it.
I remember going looking at some social media

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posts. Stephen one twenty posted something
and then he got ripped apart by the

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comments. A lot of ignorant comments
in there. But people tend to do

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that on social media. They tend
to say stuff and don't back it up

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with any reliable data. They just
simply pop off at the mouth. I

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get it. It's social media.
That's what I guess today makes the world

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go around. Everybody likes this social
media just quick responses. Whether they're accurate

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or not, or whether they're misleading, it's just it's just the way it

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is. I guess. Okay,
So what we want to do on this

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episode today is we're going to explain
two hundred and forty vault split phase systems

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in a way that you can understand
it when you're talking to somebody and they

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go, Okay, I don't understand
how we have two hundred and forty volts

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at this receptacle if it's a dryer
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or maybe it's an outlet point location
where you're taking power from the system.

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That's the definition of outlet for a
piece of equipment, utilization, equipment,

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whatever. How do we get the
two forty What happens in the circuit

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that allows us to have to forty
Because we know that that leg one,

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if we're just talking a one twenty
two to forty VOLD circuit, Leg one

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is one twenty volts and Leg two
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use one twenty. It's nominal.
It did obviously due to impedance and other

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factors. Length, and depending on
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be slightly less than one twenty,
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But through the code, and when
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NEC, we typically use the nominal
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twenty, Now two forty is the
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Leg two, Okay, And we'll
explain that out, and I'll give an

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analogy. And I like to use
an analogy called the Seesaw method in order

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to explain this in very simplistic terms
so that other people can convey it to

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other people simplistically. And so that's
kind of how I'm going to explain it.

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But you know, electricity can be
a complicated topic, but we can

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make it easier to understand by talking
about some analogies and giving some additional explanations.

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And again on one common question that
we get is how is a two

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hundred and forty volt split phase system
work? So we want to break that

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down, and I want to use
an analogy. Now I will tell you

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that I have a blog that is
out that will come out if it's not

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out already today or later today,
this being the seventh of July twenty twenty

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four. It'll be available over on
our website fasttracksystem dot com. So make

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sure you go check it out.
It's going to be a great blog that

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you can share with other people,
especially people that are new into the industry.

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They don't understand the concept. And
there's a lot of people that want

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to know how something works, not
just that they have to do something.

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So the blog is going to be
available and it'll break it down and make

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it easier for you to understand,
all right, So that's what we were

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going to go. So the basic
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so that's the first thing that people
cringe when I say. They say,

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well, there's no split day system
there. There is a split phase

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system. So that we're going to
talk in generality and when we talk about

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like residential and to make it simple
to understand the concepts. So when you

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have your you have your transformer,
and you have your secondary, and if

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you take a phase and you tap
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a phase. So from one point
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one twenty and on the other point
to the middle tap is one twenty right,

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and between them are two forty.
So when you drop your service down

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to your dwelling, you're going to
be dropping two hots and the neutral That

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neutral is connected to the grounded point
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which is midway on a phase winding. So when we call it split phase

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system, we're basically taking one of
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in the center and that gets done
at the utility transformer and that's what we'll

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bring down to your Sage standard dwelling. Now, again, I have people

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out there that listen to these things
and they want us to cover every possible

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thing under the Holy Grail analogy.
We're not talking three phase. We're not

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talking any of that today. So
for those trolls that wanted that, you're

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gonna have to listen to a different
episode. Okay, we're trying to keep

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this simple and explain two hundred and
forty volt and how it's achieved. Okay,

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So again I have to it's a
shame that I have to do that

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in my podcast, but again the
number of sheer trolls that I get.

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And if you ever go on social
media and you look at somebody post something

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and somebody is waiting to rip them
apart, you'll get it. Okay,

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we're in an atmosphere of learning,
so let's look at it that way.

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So if we understand now what we're
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I mean literally, it's what we're
doing splitting the phase. Then this is

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what's typically used at your home.
And again it involves two hot wires that

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come down and in neutral delivering power
to your house. Now, each hot

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wire, okay, each conductor is
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and together they provide two hundred and
forty volts for various appliances that need two

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hundred and forty volt applications. So
when you have for our discussion, the

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two hots are going to represent line
one in line two. So line one

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carries one hundred and twenty volts.
Line two carries one hundred and twenty volts

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between them. When you go line
to line, you're going to get two

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hundred and forty volts. Now,
one of the neat things that you're going

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to have to understand early on,
and I'll go into what we call the

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seesaw analogy. Is that line one
in line two represent one hundred and eighty

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degrees of being out of phase.
So if you think about as sign you

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SODO waveform, you have the center
line center zero, and you have to

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kind of understand it, and the
the blog is going to have an illustration

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that kind of depicts this. So
it's a little easier if you're like new

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into this and you're going to understand
sign waves and how it works. But

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basically, have you have your center
line, and when line one is up

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rises up, curves up to ninety
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vaults, and then line two drops
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it is at negative one twenty that
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and eighty degrees. So that's where
we get the one hundred and eighty degrees

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out of phase. So when one
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at its peak at the valley,
and one it's at the top, one

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at the bottom of that center line, and so then they both end up

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coming back to zero and then going
in the other direction and nail line two

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starts to rise up to plus one
twenty and in line one drops down to

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negative one twenty. So when we
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literally, if you think of a
full cycle three hundred and sixty, when

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one's at ninety and the other ones
at the lower ninety, they are literally

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one hundred and eighty degrees out of
phase with each other. Right, So

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that creates that separation, right,
And we'll go into it more detail,

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but I kind of want to paint
you that physic mental picture on the waveform

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how these lines are. One is
at one hundred and twenty at its top,

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and then one is it one twenty
below the center line okay, zero

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neutral point okay, center point okay. And I'm trying to make it as

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easy to visualize ment, you know, for a podcast here. And now

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the neutral wire that comes down with
that split phase system is connected to the

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center of that transformer phase that we
talked about, and that's intentionally grounded,

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okay, And that is where we
have the turn point. Okay. So

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when we have this this current that
s it's you know, it's oscillation that

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takes faith, that takes place sixty
times a second. This movement of these

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electrons. Okay, it represents a
complete path all the way back to the

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source. Okay, in order to
be able to achieve this, right,

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all right. So, but that's
only when we have the necessary need for

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a neutral, and so I'll explain
that as we get further. So,

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whether you're at line one or line
two, if you take just line one

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and you connect the probe to line
one and you connect it to the neutral,

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then you're gonna get one twenty because
of the zero reference. So you

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only have what the one twenty from
zero in the sign you soda way form

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up to the one twenty on the
peak of line one. You get me,

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all right, So the same thing
would happen if you did line two.

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So that's how you're measuring it.
That's why we need the zero reference.

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That's why we have all the connections. That's why the neutrals connect it

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all the way back and it takes
you back to the source in order for

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voltage stabilization, in order for the
meters and everything to work, right,

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Okay, trying as simplistic as I
can make it. Now we'll talk about

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when the neutral is needed and when
it's not. You do not need a

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neutral in all feeder cases. You
do not need a neutral in all brand

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circuit cases. If there is no
neutral necessary at whatever the load is,

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and you don't have to carry a
neutral. That's different than at the service

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where you're going to bring a neutral
to the service, because you have to

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have the ability for that current to
get back to the source right, complete

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the circuit. Nothing's going to flow
if it's not a completed circuit. Right.

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So but we'll get into that a
little later. So let's talk about

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this. It used to be years
ago when I was teaching at the university

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and when I would go around and
people would ask me to kind of give

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them these analogies to make it lock
it in their mind of what's going on

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with this waveform is. I would
tend to use what I call this seesaw

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analogy. Two kids sitting on a
seesaw. And so to make it simple,

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I tell people, Okay, imagine
in your mind that you're at a

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playground and you have two kids and
they're on a seesaw, and one is

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on one side and one is on
the other side, right, and you

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have this center pivot point that's your
pivot point. Now, when you think

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about this. When you have this
effect, when one kid's going up,

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the other kid on the other side
is going down. Right, So when

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one kid is going up, the
other is going down. And so this

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represents the one hundred and twenty volt
wires in a split phase system. So

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if one kid on the left side
that's going up is one twenty and the

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kid on the right that's going down
is the negative one twenty, So going

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up is the positive one twenty.
The kid going down on the right is

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the negative one twenty. So as
this goes back and forth, the kid

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on the left goes down, then
the kid on the right goes up.

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So this is what happens of back
and forth, back and forth the seesaw

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analogy. Okay, and this represents
the two one hundred and twenty volt wires

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that are in a split phase system. Now we'll go a little deeper in

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this too, but I want you
to visualize that in your mind. It's

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basically, Leg one is the kid
one on the left, Leg two is

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the kid on the right. The
center point or the pivot point or the

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center point or the center of the
sea saw that is the neutral point in

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this analogy. Okay, kind of
paint that picture for you. So when

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we think of the center of the
seesaw, the center pivot of that sea

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saw is like again the neutral point
in that split phase electrical system. It's

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the grounded and it divides the transformers
secondary winding into two equal halves, so

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it's a two hundred and forty volt
winding. It divides it in half,

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so it's at one twenty on each
side of that center point. If you

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mentally picture that, it's essentially the
same as a seesaw effect. Okay,

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So if we've got two kids on
a sea saw and kid one would represent

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line one, Kid two would represent
line two, So the first one is

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one twenty and then the kid two
on the line two represents other one twenty.

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Right now, how they move?
So when kid one goes up,

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kid two goes down, this means
they move in opposite directions of each other.

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This movement is always opposite. When
one kid is at the top,

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think of that in assign your soda
wave form as the positive peak, and

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when the other kids at the bottom, that's the other wire, that's line

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two, then that is at the
negative peak. Okay, so think of

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that's kind of how it moves,
and that's actually how it moves in a

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two forty volt circuit. It oscillates
back and forth just like that, sixty

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times a second. And because there
are one hundred and eighty degrees out of

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phase, any given time you take
a measurement, you're going to have a

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phase difference between the one twenty at
the peak the positive peak, and the

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one twenty at the negative peak.
Okay, for line too, and it's

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going to alternate back and forth very
quickly sixty times a second. We deal

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in sixty herd systems and uh.
And so that's why it any given time,

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the difference between the one twenty at
the peak and the difference at the

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one twenty at the negative peak,
that difference on the sign your sort of

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waveform is one hundred and eighty degrees
out of phase, right, Okay,

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So let's kind of go a little
bit deeper in that. Let's talk about

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phase difference in voltage calculations. So
in an AC system, the vault is

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changes over time following a wave pattern. We've talked about it. It's a

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sign you sorta wave form. Now, when two waves are one hundred and

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eighty degrees out of phase, like
ours are in a line one in line

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two to forty volt system. It
means that when one wave is that its

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maximum positive value, the other is
at its maximum negative value, and vice

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versus. So at any given time
the phase, the voltage difference between the

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two is going to be what there's
going to be one hundred and eighty degrees

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out of phase. Okay, now
let's look at the visualization of this again

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to kind of make it wrap around. So line one, it's if you're

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thinking of the sign your sort a
wave form. Just draw a straight line,

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and now you've got at this beginning
of this line zero, Your your

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line gradually goes up, kind of
curved up, so it starts at zero,

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then it goes to plus one twenty, then it comes back down to

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zero, and then it goes down
to negative one twenty, and then it

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returns back to zero, and that
completes one full cycle. And it does

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this sixty times a second. That's
just line one. Now line two does

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the opposite. It starts at zero, but instead of going to plus one

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twenty, it goes to negative one
twenty. Okay, so that when line

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one is at plus one twenty,
line two is at the opposite one hundred

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and eighty degrees opposite, it's at
negative one twenty. So when that happens,

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it goes through the same process.
It goes to negative one twenty,

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then it comes back to zero up
to positive one twenty. And at that

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point, once it gets to positive
one twenty, line one is at negative

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one twenty, and then of course
line two returns back to zero. So

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this opposites line one in line two
are working in opposition. Okay. So

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this means that when line one is
at its highest positive voltage, which is

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one hundred and twenty volts, line
two is at its lowest negative voltage,

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which is negative one twenty. So
the opposite behavior continues throughout the cycle,

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and this always creates a one hundred
and eighty degree phase difference. Ok Now,

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why does this even matter? Why
do we even care about this?

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Because now we've established that's how we
get to forty. Because when you put

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your probes on it the left,
the line one, it's at one twenty

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positive. When you put the probe
on line two, it's at negative one

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twenty. So the difference between them
is what the difference between them is two

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forty. Okay, So because there
are one hundred and eighty degrees out of

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phase. But let's let's kind of
go deeper, because again it can be

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confusing. But why is this balance
necessary? Why do we do this?

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Well, this one hundred and eighty
phase difference helps keep the balance on the

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electrical load and reduces the current on
the neutral. Y'all probably heard me talk

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about the cancelation effect that takes place. For example, if I'm pulling five

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amps on line one and I get
to peak one twenty at five amps,

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then in the load online two is
also five amps equally distributed, and it's

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at it's negative one twenty, the
neutral will see absolutely zero current flow,

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okay, because it's balanced. Now, if I have ten amps online one

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and I happen to have five amps
on line two, then the neutral is

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going to see what it's going to
see the maximum imbalance between the two in

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this case, if it was ten
on leg one or line one in five

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on line two, then we're going
to see five amps on the neutral.

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Okay. So in order to keep
the balance, this is why the waveform

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is designed in the in the sign
sort of wave form is the way it

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is. Okay, So there are
one hundred and eighty degrees out of phase.

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Now let's let's let's dig a little
deeper here, so let's talk about

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combined voltages. We're trying to reach
this two forty because we just explained how

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it works in the analogy of the
seesaw, So let's kind of get a

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little bit more deeper into this.
So the total voltage across the load connected

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between line one and line two,
okay, is the sum. It's the

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sum of the two voltages. So
if it's one twenty peak plus one twenty

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for line one, and then the
opposite effect is line two is at a

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negative one twenty, then it's the
summation of the two that creates the difference

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of voltage potential between the peak at
one twenty at the positive peak and then

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the one twenty at the negative peak. And that's how we get the two

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hundred and forty volts at any given
time on the system. Because of the

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one hundred and eighty degree phasing,
and because of the changing directions so quickly

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sixty times a second, and because
each one is out of phase, that

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at any given time when you put
your meter on it, you're gonna get

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two hundred and forty volts, which
is also why if I stick one meter

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on it in one meter to ground, then I'm only going to get one

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phase at its point in the system, whether it's plus one twenty or on

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line two where and it's a negative
one twenty. Either way, I'm still

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getting a voltage of one twenty.
Okay. So that's why it's so important

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for us to, you know,
to understand how the systems work, and

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why we ground systems, and what
we can do to get one twenty in

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a two forty volt system. How
do we get two forty volts in a

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system? That type of thing.
So summarizing this and then I'll talk about

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the neutral here a little bit more
for like ranges and dryers, because again

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people ask that all the time.
So when you have two kids on a

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seesaw, basically it represents one hundred
and twenty vaults at each kid, whether

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it's they're representing line one in line
two, or they represent wires in a

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split phase system. So line one
is one kid, he represents one twenty,

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and then the other kid on the
other side of the seesaw represents one

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twenty and it's always at opposite one
hundred and eighty degrees of whatever it is

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on line one. So again line
one is that at the peak it's positive

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one twenty. That it means line
two, at the same point in time

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is going to be one hundred and
eighty degrees opposite of the line one,

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which means it's going to be at
a negative one twenty. Okay, makes

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sense. Another way to visualize this
is a clock. So at twelve.

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If you think of the twelve as
the peak from line one, and you

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think of the six as the negative
peak for line two, and then you

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translate the twelves, the the three, the six, the nine, and

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twelve. Now if you change those
into the ninety degrees, then you've got

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three sixty and you've got ninety one
eighty. You know that as you go

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around right and you start looking at
it, and you go, okay,

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I've got uh starts at three sixty
at the top. At three o'clock,

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it's ninety. At six o'clock it's
onet eighty, at nine o'clock it's two

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seventy, and then we're back to
three sixty. Okay. If you visualize

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it that way, If if the
peak is at twelve and the online one

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and the peak is negative for line
two. Then it's down near the six

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on that waveform. Then you can
see that that is one hundred and eighty

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degrees apart, okay, And that's
how the whole thing works. So the

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up and down movement of the seesaw
analogy is represents alternating current going in opposite

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phases very quickly, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth,

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back and forth, very quickly.
And because of them being out of

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phase, it ensures that at any
given time, we're going to get two

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one hundred and forty vaults across our
test to line one to line two.

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Okay. Now, one of the
things that people have to visualize is the

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height difference that seesaw effect. You
know, So the height difference between the

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center point in the kid that's on
the left side represents line one and the

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kid on the right represents line two. The voltage difference between these two kids,

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the ones up at one twenty the
other ones down at a negative one

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twenty. The difference between those two
is two hundred and forty vaults. And

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that's what we talk about voltage difference, and when you're measuring it, that's

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what you're doing. Voltage is pressure, but also when you're measuring, it's

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it's it's the differential between line one
and line two that takes place. So

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by understanding that kind of that seesaw
analogy the concept of a center tapped transformer.

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It becomes clear why you have you
know, two hundred and twenty volt

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lines are considered one hundred and eighty
degrees out of phase in a split phase

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system, physically splitting a phase.
UH. This phase difference allows the system

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to provide a total of two hundred
and forty volts to certain appliances, ensuring

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efficiency and a balanced electrical power distribution
system in your home. Now, when

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it comes to the neutral like ranges
and dryers, there are elements where they

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just need pure to forty, but
there are applications where they might have a

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timer lighting and again, appliance will
vary, and the National Legal Code requires

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us to run four conductors to these
circuits. UH. And then you know

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today and now put a four four
prong attachment plug on your appliance if it's

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a dryer or a range or whatnot. And obviously there's certain things that in

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the US right that we have appliances
that you know, like ranges and dryers

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that need one hundred and twenty volts, and so in order to get the

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one twenty volts, we're gonna need
that neutral in order to be able to

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measure from the peak line one,
okay, line one at one hundred and

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twenty volts, and then you'd measuring
it to the neutral, which is zero

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reference because back of the panel it's
connected together with the earth and everything's connected

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back. So but yet it still
allows the path back to the source through

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the neutral. But because it's grounded, it's at reference point. That's what

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allows us to measure one twenty all
right. So and that scenario is we're

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basically measuring from one of the line
one side of the phase of the transformer

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or the two forty volt transformer winding
to the midpoint. So we're only measuring

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half of that winding. So that's
one twenty and so that's how we can

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power the one twenty volte loads that
may be on that appliance. That type

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of thing. Now, there's people
that say that there are appliances that are

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designed differently, and I can't speak
for every appliance, but when we're talking

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ranges and dryers, that's typically the
layout and how it's done when it requires

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a neutral conductor, the equipment grounding
conductor that's required in those circuits. Now

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that's for ground faults and things like
that that maybe may energize the metal frame

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and it allows for the overcurrent device
to function. That's what that is for.

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So, and there's people out there
that say that the neutral and the

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equipment ground serve the same purpose.
That is not true, even though they're

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connected together at the service in order
to be able to carry return current back

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to the source, and you know, also allows that the if there's a

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ground fault somewhere, that the equipment
ground carries the fault current back to the

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source with a low impedance path that
allows the fault to skyrocket at the point

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where the fault is. That means
the overcurrent device is going to trip quicker.

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Okay, it's gonna trip quicker.
That has nothing to do with the

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neutral. So the neutral is designed
to carry the maximum imbalanced load and we

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calculate that out and for most cases
for ranges and dryer applications, is pretty

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much already figured out for us.
So, but at the end of the

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day, one of the key factors
are the key takeaways that we want from

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this is that you need if you
need a neutral, it's there to allow

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you to be able to go from
one of the phase one of the legs

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to neutral point and get one twenty
right that type of thing, and so

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we can power whatever one twenty volte
loads there may be on whatever that appliance

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or that piece of equipment is that
is requiring us to have a neutral.

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There not all two hundred and forty
volt appliances or utilization equipment require neutral.

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In a pure to forty volt application, the neutral is not necessary. Like

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an air handler unit that's two forty
volts that that there has no one to

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twenty volt loads, it's still going
to have an equipment ground because you still

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could have a ground fault. You
have to still clear an over current device,

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but there is no need for neutral. So in a service you have

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to bring a neutral, but beyond
that a feeder. Unless you're feeding a

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remote distribution panel that's going to have
one twenty volt loads in it, then

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you would obviously need a neutral.
But if you're supplying something to a piece

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of equipment that has absolutely no need
for one twenty volt loads and a two

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forty volt one twenty system, but
all. It's all you're doing is taking

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two forty volts to it. Then
you have no necessary need or a neutral

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conductor, and that is okay.
The code permits you to do that.

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Right again, we're talking feeders in
brand circuit applications. One of the important

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things that the people tend to do
is they confuse the grounded conductor with grounding,

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and that becomes a big confusion point
because they connect together back at the

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source, back at the panels,
So everybody says, well, it's all

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going back to the same location.
Anyway. That's a very dangerous mentality to

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be in because once you start getting
downstream from the service, if you inadvertently

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connect an equipment ground to the grounded
conductor, which is in most cases and

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residential is going to be neutral as
well, then what you could is you

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could potentially put circulating current on metal
parts that aren't designed to have current on

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them by their nature, and that
creates a potential touch hazard, not to

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mention, if you lose a neutral
or it comes loose. Now that return

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current is going to travel back on
all of those parts that weren't intended to

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be current carrying components, which is
why we call them non current carrying components.

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That doesn't mean they wouldn't carry any
current under a fault condition. It

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just means they're not intended to carry
any current in that type of scenario.

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So confusing that and not understanding the
requirements of two fifty twenty four B for

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example, uh can be you know, devastating and it could just be sitting

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there as a ticking time bomb for
somebody to come in contact with it later

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on. And so again, electricity
just tries to work regardless, and so

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even if it's done wrong, So
we have to follow the minimum safety standard

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and make sure that we can go
above it, but we can't go below

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it. So hopefully that explains it
a little bit better. Again, it

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is hard to do on a kind
of on a podcast. Hopefully I will

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have the blog will be you know, have a couple of illustrations for you.

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But just remember in summary the Seesaw
analogy that the two forty vaults is

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the difference between line one being at
a positive peak of one twenty and line

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two being at a negative peak of
one twenty the literal voltage differential but between

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the two is two forty Okay,
And so that's why and because there are

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one hundred and eighty degrees out of
phase at any given time, since it

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changes directions sixty times a second each
one like line one and line two does

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this, and because of them being
out of phase at any given time in

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this oscillation, if you do a
meter measurement at line one to line two,

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you're going to get two hundred and
forty volts. If you take line

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one to the neutral if it's there, you're gonna get one twenty. If

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you take it line one to the
ground, because they're connected back at the

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source, you're still going to get
one twenty. And it's important for volted

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stabilization to make sure that everything is
connected together all the way back to the

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source to make sure that these readings
come out right. Okay, So thinking

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about the seesaw analogy again, boy
on the left is line one when he's

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up in the air. The boy
on the right, which is line two,

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is down opposite. So there are
one hundred and twenty degrees downp me,

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excuse me, is one hundred and
twenty volts negative down, and the

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boil on the left, which is
representing line one, is one hundred and

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twenty degrees positive. So they are
at any given time on this seesaw,

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they're going to be one hundred and
eighty degrees out of phase, and due

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to the oscillation sixty times a second
of the way it works at sixty hertz,

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at any given point when you make
those readings, you're going to get

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the line one in line two,
there's going to be a voltage differential that

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creates two hundred and forty volts.
And that's how it works. Okay,

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hopefully that explained it again if I
confused you, You know again, I

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tell people all the time, I'm
not the best educator in the world.

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I just do my best. I
never tried to be, you know,

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not trying to go down in history
is the best in anything. I'm just

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here to teach you. If you
get something from it, I you know,

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I'm glad you do. If you
don't, you don't like how I

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teach, that's there's other educators out
there. You don't need to troll me.

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You don't need to be negative.
If you don't like how I teach

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something, Just move on. There's
other people out there. You don't have

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to listen to me. But I
do appreciate all of you that do.

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Until next time, folks, stay
safe, God bless and remember go check

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