1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:05,200 Oh, hell, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Yeah, i'll call 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,279 that. I think it's official episode. Welcome to the five hundred and ninety 3 00:00:08,279 --> 00:00:12,160 first episode of the Geek. For his podcast, I'm the Eggnog cut Tress. 4 00:00:12,199 --> 00:00:16,280 Now I'm joined by I'm Griffin Ryder Cirkle bats Or like. I can 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,039 fully admit it's not the best name, but I've just decided that I'm just 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,839 trying to work an Eggnog as much as I can in the December for Snyder. 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,120 Come on, there might be a Snyder Rebelue cut once all the parts 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,120 are out right, like the ten hour editions, Well there are movie, 9 00:00:29,559 --> 00:00:32,280 yeah, because you know there is already two cuts that are coming out after 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,359 the original cuts, right, I was joking around, but no, so 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,880 you have Oh you didn't know this. I did not know about this, 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,840 So we have probably one. Yeah. Yeah, he probably forgot about it. 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,799 You know, you just cycled on the mind a couple of exams this 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,399 week. It's been it's been a brain fluff week. Yeah. Also, 15 00:00:47,439 --> 00:00:49,479 when you start your overallso got a few of my dogs, she's look at 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,719 me. I completely forgot about that. Just staring at you kind of start 17 00:00:55,359 --> 00:00:59,799 more just annoyed. But yeah, no three hour casts. He's never gonna 18 00:00:59,799 --> 00:01:03,960 fit, you know, as I guess no, because there's this cut and 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,400 then there's gonna be the three hour plus cut that's righted are just for part 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,000 one, just for part one, and then there's part two, and then 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,599 there's a part two cut as well, so which may or may not get 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,040 your sting some cons people have with this movie. I don't know. We'll 23 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:23,400 see, but yeah, here we are about to review Rebel Moon. You 24 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:26,599 can go back. We review not every Zach Snurner movie, but every Zach 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,319 Snyner movie that's not three hundred or Guardians of the Als of Ghoul or whatever 26 00:01:30,359 --> 00:01:34,079 the hell it's called. Of the title. We will one day because we're 27 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:37,200 definitely in Rebel Moon part like, we're gonna well, we'll see, we'll 28 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,760 we'll talk about when director's cut comes out, because tas on that, so 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,560 may we'll rope for that. We'll we'll we'll see what happens there, depending 30 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:45,040 on this. Maybe both hat him right, like we're down with rel Moon. 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,840 Who knows, but yeah, you go on the feeds Awkwarman review Game 32 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,159 the Year Editions A good newscast, lots of stuff up there. Well, 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,680 there'll be some content dropping next week, but the excellent retrospective. But there's 34 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,280 lots on the feeds right now, so enjoy that over the holiday seasons. 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,680 We hope you have a good holiday and Christmas and whatever, univisious time off. 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,599 You know, it's a good thing. And yeah, everything you know, 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,800 it's down below the patrons thinking of patron producers. April Raiden, Nope, 38 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:15,719 Air Rain, April Darkness, Josha Wright, Jack Rant, MUDs. 39 00:02:15,759 --> 00:02:17,479 You know it'd be great. You know, I gotta talk to Aaron because 40 00:02:17,479 --> 00:02:21,439 I haven't. I can't asked me. It is a discord because the fact 41 00:02:21,439 --> 00:02:23,800 we haven't heard from him in a bit. You know, we did that 42 00:02:23,319 --> 00:02:27,120 watch a long Yeah, he's a busy guy, but on Letterbox he's watching 43 00:02:27,199 --> 00:02:30,560 movies. So and that's my plug for go check on the discord where it's 44 00:02:30,599 --> 00:02:35,319 literally a civil war between the Discord of Saltburs, literally just Taylor and Clay. 45 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,280 But it was a great back and forth where Taylor dropped the two star 46 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,560 and then April came with the five star and the loved every second on it. 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,639 So it's good. Kirk will be Wayne in soon. But yeah, 48 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,199 Golden Gee we got We're gonna have three Golden Geeks coming up, MCU, 49 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,039 A, DCU, Goodbye, and the regular So lots of stuff coming up. 50 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,120 I hadn't even did you watch the I imagine you did he watch the 51 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,240 what If? Episode? Today? No? I didn't watch it. Yeah, 52 00:02:58,319 --> 00:03:01,639 know me either, So I'll probably watch a couple. Yeah. So, 53 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:06,439 but we're here to review Rebel Moon. So if it's your first time 54 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,879 with us, we do a non spoils portion, So if you're something that's 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,400 maybe waiting for the director's cut, if you're gonna wait for all parts, 56 00:03:13,439 --> 00:03:15,159 whatever it may be, we will go probably about fifteen twin MIT's just giving 57 00:03:15,159 --> 00:03:20,280 our overall recommendations, a general vibe, and then we'll take a little break 58 00:03:20,479 --> 00:03:25,319 and you will get the spoilers edition and stuff. So, uh yeah, 59 00:03:27,039 --> 00:03:30,280 what are you talking to too? Yeah, yeah, pretty much. I'm 60 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,240 I'm awesome to you, you know. So it's been a while since we've 61 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,039 done just a two man review with the two of us, Like we've done 62 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:39,360 quite a few of them in the past. Slenderman, Triple Frontier, everything 63 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,960 everywhere, everything everywhere, all at once, that's right. So even Euphoria, 64 00:03:44,039 --> 00:03:46,159 that was a that was a big review that we did just that we 65 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,639 that a ten season review, like don't happen often, it's just every like 66 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:52,479 every like, I don't know, once in a blue moon, it's just 67 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,599 these events happen. But yeah, here we are for Rebel Moon Part one, 68 00:03:55,039 --> 00:04:01,280 Child of Fire. I I will say, I feel like my hype 69 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,000 level like has been fluctuating. You got your one Scooper there. Uh, 70 00:04:05,599 --> 00:04:10,000 my hype level has been fluctuating leading up to the release of this film. 71 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,479 I feel like just the idea of what it was had me kind of percolating 72 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:17,279 for that idea, and then and then and then you know, time went 73 00:04:17,319 --> 00:04:20,120 on kind of forgot about a little bit until we got that trailer for it, 74 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,399 and then I was just super super hyped. I really really liked that 75 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,439 trailer that the release for Rebel Moon. It's just the scale and the world 76 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,879 that they're building it. I don't know, it was just it was just 77 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,600 pumping on all gears for me. I was really really looking forward to it. 78 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,920 And then, uh, I mean we had we had Au Command two 79 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,519 this week too, so it's just like a lot of content. Plus like 80 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,759 it's been my last week before obviously the winter breaks. I feel like it's 81 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:45,439 just been in like the back of my mind. But then and then heading 82 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,680 into it, I was, I don't know, I was really really hyped 83 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,800 as well as uh as well as even just seeing like some of the early 84 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,199 reviews, some of them runt scores, I don't know what it was. 85 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,920 It just got to be even more excited because, especially knowing that we're doing 86 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,600 the reviews for it, whether it's reviewing poorly or highly, I feel like 87 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,560 it's always gonna be a fun time with review because if it's either like on 88 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,000 one side of the spectrum or the other, I feel like it's at least 89 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,839 gonna be entertaining to talk about. And yeah, I think this movie is 90 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:19,079 definitely fitting that just that criteria there. I did enjoy quite a few aspects 91 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,800 of what this movie introduced, and I definitely did not like quite a few 92 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,199 movies, or sorry, quite a few aspects of this movie introduced. I 93 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:32,920 feel like one of my one of my mini cons maybe of this movie is 94 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:40,120 just the it just seems very messy at parts. I really really appreciate the 95 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,920 scale that they were going for, I think across the board, the world 96 00:05:42,959 --> 00:05:46,000 building and just things that they're introducing. I was all for it. I 97 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,360 really really liked a lot of just the maybe the politics of what's going on. 98 00:05:50,399 --> 00:05:55,920 We don't dive fully into just how this whole world works, but I 99 00:05:55,959 --> 00:06:00,639 was definitely getting, like, you know, maybe a little sliver of of 100 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,240 like how the opening of Dune kind of happens, like they kind of fill 101 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,480 you in a little bit on like just what's going on, who's running what, 102 00:06:05,879 --> 00:06:10,040 who are the big the big bad sort of of the world, and 103 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:12,439 that's kind of how this movie starts as well. So I definitely saw some 104 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,199 similarities there, and I don't know, I think it had a pretty impressive 105 00:06:16,199 --> 00:06:19,720 opening, but where it was losing me was just like the adventure along the 106 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,639 way, which of course is like most of this movie, but I still 107 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:28,040 think there was there's some good moments, for sure. This had a lot 108 00:06:28,079 --> 00:06:30,720 of the classic Zach Snyder SloMo stuff in it, and I think it it 109 00:06:30,759 --> 00:06:34,279 went a little bit too much on the on the dial there. I'm this 110 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:39,480 is the worst offender of it easy. I think I knew it was coming 111 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:42,439 as well, and like it happens pretty early on the movie and it's like 112 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,360 okay, yeah, here we are, but then it just kept happening and 113 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,480 I don't even know why. I was like surprised at that point, but 114 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,560 it, yeah, it just kept happening. I'm like, oh, yeah, 115 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,279 here we are. He's just slow mo and this specific scene I don't 116 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,040 think it needs to happen. There's like a scene that it's probably about hour 117 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,319 in and it's not a big spoil, but we meet Charli Hunham's character and 118 00:06:59,399 --> 00:07:01,040 has a fight that breaks out and there's a guy that like he gets tossed 119 00:07:01,079 --> 00:07:04,519 and he falls on like the bar floor. But it's just like a shot 120 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,720 of like his midsection and his crosh landing on the ground in slow motion. 121 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,560 I'm just like, why is this in slowmosh? I get it. On's 122 00:07:11,639 --> 00:07:14,639 the nice pretty shots. There's some landscape stuff like I'm not the person. 123 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:15,439 I goes like, oh, we shouldn't be using slow mo. It's like 124 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,879 no, he likes set style whatever, and it don't work. But this 125 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,319 was really just like a guy's taint, like in someone just falling and it's 126 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,800 like like why right now, Like there's just this one. It felt like 127 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,399 there was a few really odd choices, you know, yes, one hundred 128 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:34,839 percent, there's many scenes when it felt like maybe Snyder and crew are just 129 00:07:34,879 --> 00:07:40,240 like, this is gonna have such a crazy reaction when people see this specific 130 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:43,560 shot like in slow mo, and then it happens. It's just like it 131 00:07:43,639 --> 00:07:46,279 does not come across that way. It's just like we're extending this moment when 132 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:49,439 it doesn't really have to be extended. Uh. But I don't know. 133 00:07:49,519 --> 00:07:54,160 There there's definitely some moments that I think it does boost those action scenes, 134 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,000 but unfortunately for this one, it felt like it was it was the more 135 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:05,000 minority, the more minority of the choices there where was I oh, yeah, 136 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,279 like the world building stuff. I I liked the aliens that we came 137 00:08:09,319 --> 00:08:13,959 across. It definitely had the certain Star Wars isms. I guess that I 138 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,879 bring that up just because I guess this is kind of seen as you know, 139 00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:24,319 Snyder's Star Wars. It's an inspiration of that seven Sam Rai Magnificent seven. 140 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:26,759 It has a lot of those. Is a lot of Seven's in there, 141 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,959 Yes everything, not David Fincher seven with the Zero Killer movie, not 142 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:37,879 that one. What's in the box. So I really like just some of 143 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:43,559 those things that were introduced, whether it's like the imperial type characters, the 144 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,759 yeah, like I said, the aliens, we had some CANTEENA type scenes. 145 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,799 I guess it was the SloMo one that you already brought up, and 146 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:54,679 just I don't know, like the little spark of rebellion I did like maybe 147 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,720 on paper of what was there, but like once we actually got onto the 148 00:08:56,759 --> 00:09:03,440 adventure, I found a lot of or minister rephrase. I found myself quite 149 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,240 a few times throughout the film just kind of getting bored and also just expecting 150 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:11,840 what was gonna happen, and then that's exactly what happened. It's not really 151 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:16,519 spoilery, but there's there's a lot of like recruiting in this and it seems 152 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:20,440 very very simple and like we're just bouncing from one character to the next, 153 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,799 and it's like there's no real like it almost seems like you're watching a show 154 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:28,679 like almost I'm gonna make like an anime comparison. I feel like there's a 155 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,399 lot of times in an anime when a character will get introduced to like another 156 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,279 side character, and that whole episode is just like their backstory and then from 157 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:37,759 that point on they're a part of the crew. And it felt like this 158 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,799 movie had that for each of our characters. But they but it's not an 159 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,559 anime, it's not like they have one episode to just spend on that one 160 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:48,360 character. So it just seems so quick and really easy actually when they're just 161 00:09:48,399 --> 00:09:52,240 like recruiting everyone and it's just like, yeah, we're going here to get 162 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,240 this person. Okay, that works, and we're going here to get this 163 00:09:54,279 --> 00:09:56,960 person and there's no real, like major conflict. It seems to like get 164 00:09:58,039 --> 00:10:01,639 them on the team. So that was kind of bugging me. And another 165 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,840 thing that really stood out to me, which is I feel like it doesn't 166 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,399 really stand out to me unless it's really really good. In this case, 167 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,679 it really really wasn't. But the score. Man, I don't know how 168 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,720 you felt, but I feel like this movie had no fucking score. I 169 00:10:13,759 --> 00:10:16,960 was halfway through this that I liked, did okay? I actually enjoyed it 170 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,120 because I thought there's a good balance of the in different plants. We had 171 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,000 different rhythms going on, Like the original farm Planet was like a nice like 172 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,600 melody, some guitar and then lay against some rock and roll music that that 173 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,159 I did enjoy. I liked the score, so I was there, Yeah, 174 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,320 that's where we deviate a little bit, because yeah, I got like 175 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,159 halfway through and there's an action scene going on, and it like hit me 176 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,519 that I could actually hear some music. I'm like, wait a minute, 177 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:43,440 like I feel like I haven't heard anything. And again like making like a 178 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,120 stark comparison amongst like Dune, you know, and Hans Zimmer's score and how 179 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:52,000 every track in there, every track feels like an alien sound, whereas this 180 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,440 is just I don't know when you really at least for me, Yeah, 181 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,039 I didn't really hear it too often. Had I had sound creep too, 182 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,759 but uh so that that felt very very flat, like a flat soda, 183 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,679 unfortunately for me. But I mean you saw it differently, so that's good. 184 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,159 But yeah, I don't know. I think by the end of this 185 00:11:09,279 --> 00:11:13,039 movie, it didn't have me like frothing at the mouth for part two. 186 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:16,639 By any means, I'm definitely kind of interested in just seeing the wider scale 187 00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:20,639 of what's going on, because I mean, it is a cliffhanger sort of 188 00:11:20,639 --> 00:11:24,480 like we are going into the next part. But it definitely didn't have me 189 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,320 let me let me see that again. Maybe the hype level that I was 190 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,200 at entering this film, I'm pretty much there or like lower heading into part 191 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,039 two, which is kind of unfortunate. Because I didn't have a lot of 192 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:43,200 hype heading into this, yeah, leading up to it, but I don't 193 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,519 know. I'll just say my thoughts before I go to spoilery and just pass. 194 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,879 If you weren't, I got two questions for you, if you weren't 195 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:54,720 hosting a podcast. Do you think you would still partake in part two? 196 00:11:56,799 --> 00:12:01,039 I think on your calendar, but I think again. So, there was 197 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,679 a lot of moments while I was watching this film like that, did you 198 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:09,320 ever see Alita Battle Angel? No? But I could see just even from 199 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,480 trailers. Yeah, this movie reminded me of that a lot. And I 200 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:16,919 like that movie like enough, and it ends with like a big spoiler of 201 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:20,399 like you have they're hinting like Edward Norton's gonna be like the villain of the 202 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:22,639 next movie, and we never got that. See Gordon's in that movie like 203 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,919 the very end, like like he's shown as like as yeah, he's shown 204 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,600 as this villain. He's like a crazy alien design as well, and I'm 205 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:33,639 like, holy shit, you know, like the movie was it was like 206 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,639 higher than a seven at least, like I thought it was good enough, 207 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,320 but I was at least excited for that next installment. Never happened, so 208 00:12:41,039 --> 00:12:45,279 uh that, Like, just thinking of that comparison, I think I would 209 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:48,960 still be down for part two. Yeah, after watching that, it does 210 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:50,879 make it very easy that this is a Netflix release. Like if this was 211 00:12:50,919 --> 00:12:54,039 a theater release and you asked me the same question, I don't think so, 212 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,519 because I don't think I would have gone out to theaters, especially like 213 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,159 this time of the year, right, we're so close to Christmas. I 214 00:13:01,159 --> 00:13:05,440 feel like I'm not really going out alone to see this one because like Shane 215 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,799 wanted to watch this movie with me for sure, but it was it was 216 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:11,000 probably because it was the Netflix release. You know, we were both home, 217 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:13,399 so it made it access watch Reil Move and not Sulburn. Come on, 218 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,440 now, come, I'm gonna try and work on that with her all. 219 00:13:16,799 --> 00:13:18,720 Probably just show her Sultburn, but tell her it's Rebel Moon. Just 220 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:24,279 tell it's like it gets this face part eventually, you know. But yeah, 221 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,559 that's great. Now I just saw Edward Norton. That's cool. I 222 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,519 never heard about that. That still shows me how many people have not seen 223 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:33,080 that movie. Thought by now I would have heard someone talk about or be 224 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,639 on my timeline, but never until this very moment, Like wow, he 225 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:39,559 was in that movie. But here even is Alita Battle Angel twenty nineteen, 226 00:13:39,759 --> 00:13:41,960 Okay, not as old as I thought twenty eighteen. Yeah, I thought 227 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,519 it was old. I thought was like twenty seventeen. Twenty nineteen were about 228 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:50,639 four years removed. Yeah, geez, so at Scrine too. He was 229 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:54,600 in Alita Battle Angel and he was the noble that's funny, Yeah he was 230 00:13:54,679 --> 00:14:00,639 and that Yeah I forgot. Yeah. I think maybe it'll be like a 231 00:14:00,799 --> 00:14:03,480 few differences. I'm sure when we tell to me, like, oh this 232 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,120 scene work for me, this didn't kind of like the score. But unfortunately, 233 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,639 I think I can't bring like a different I can't bring a Devil's Advocate 234 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:16,559 opinion to Kirkland. And I also can't bring like a hot take. I 235 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,559 can't bring a take being like everyone's wrong this is Snyder's best work or I 236 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,399 came like this is the worst, Like I, you know, it's all 237 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,120 subjective, as our friend Ray says and everything. I for me, it's 238 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,679 like and I get it from some people, you know, we always have 239 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:31,519 fun with them, but like Clay Patroon, Clay, he gave this like 240 00:14:31,559 --> 00:14:35,879 a one, like a point five out of five on letter box, and 241 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,519 for me, where that's where I also go like, I don't know, 242 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:41,240 maybe it's because we watched so many movies, And that's where I'm excited for 243 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:46,279 next after nine to hopefully talk about like twenty twenty three, Like in retrospective 244 00:14:46,279 --> 00:14:48,279 we talk about movies we saw in December stuff, cause like I just feel 245 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:54,080 like it's not anything worse than a lot of other stuff we've seen this year. 246 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,159 Like I feel like there's been so many not even just even just this 247 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,799 week. As far as Snyder' stuff we've talked about, like and to Klay's 248 00:15:00,799 --> 00:15:01,799 credit, he's not seen Sucker Bunch. But to me, it's like when 249 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,159 people all this is Snier's worst movie, it's like not by a long shot 250 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,559 in my opinion, Like I any day I would take this over Soucker Bunch, 251 00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:13,120 even though I agree with the other's times where it's a little slow and 252 00:15:13,159 --> 00:15:16,320 boring. But it's odd because like I don't think this is a great movie. 253 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,000 I don't know if it's like a good movie. But I didn't like 254 00:15:20,159 --> 00:15:22,639 dislike it. I didn't hate it. I was liking. I definitely think 255 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:26,679 the first half is better than the second half. Also, it's in three 256 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,720 parts, but I think the opening first act. I was really into I 257 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:33,960 think there's Yeah. Unfortunately, much like people talk about of like oh, 258 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,320 there's this bigger cut, there is a lot of characters and names just throwing 259 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,320 it at your real quick. You're like, oh, I'd like to learn 260 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,720 more about this connection. I like to learn about this, and you really 261 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:43,399 don't. You move along fast. But what I'm gonna say is like my 262 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,720 review is just based off because I see a lot of people that are you 263 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:48,720 know, I'm not gonna call him up by name, but you know, 264 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:52,960 I have friends and stuff that like are big Snio fans and stuff. I'm 265 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,919 also not gonna do the whole like, oh yeah, it's not fleshed out, 266 00:15:54,919 --> 00:15:58,159 but I'm sure that will be in the director's cud. No, Like 267 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,360 I'm reviewing this film the same thing with even Part two. This in a 268 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,840 sense like because I was on the Crossover last week and a family, he 269 00:16:07,919 --> 00:16:10,879 is an issue with Spider Verse, and I get why he does, but 270 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,919 I don't. There's always movies that we had that debate. People have this 271 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,120 to be a couple years ago Dune, right, like is it a half 272 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,399 movie? Is this movie like is it a complete movie or is it so 273 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:22,440 much like a part one where you can't watch it alone. I do feel 274 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,480 like this movie is that I don't hate that as much as other people, 275 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,440 because we know there's a part two coming, Like it's literally filmed. We 276 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,399 know it's gonna be happening in April, so it's not like, oh my 277 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:33,120 god. But it is a film where even like Lord of the Rings, 278 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:38,279 where both Fellowship and Two Towers Sarn's still out there, they're separated, the 279 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,279 Ring is not destroyed, but they feel like full, complete meals and movies 280 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:47,240 where I feel satisfied. Where this was. This feels like an act one 281 00:16:47,279 --> 00:16:48,399 and a half of a movie and then it ends. You know, it 282 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:52,879 feels like you made the anime comparison. I'm making the comparison to like a 283 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,720 Bethesda game. I've only played fall in Starfield, but that you wake up, 284 00:16:56,799 --> 00:16:59,639 you meet your main character, and then like the first three hours iss 285 00:16:59,639 --> 00:17:02,639 you meet different companions and like recruiting them and then like, hey, go 286 00:17:02,679 --> 00:17:07,839 in your mission. Like that's what this movie is. And unfortunately there's here's 287 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:11,279 saying. I don't think it's bad, but I feel like already I watched 288 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:14,440 it last night and I'm slowly starting to forget about it, and that's what 289 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,160 I think. It's the worst thing that I said this with Army the Dead, 290 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,880 and I really am curious about part two and whatever he does next. 291 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,319 Is I've always said this about Snyder, where whether you love it, hate 292 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:26,160 it, or indifferent, he I think would always make a movie at least 293 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,599 would stand out and cause debate. And I think there's always a debate with 294 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,759 him because some people love Zach and some people don't. But I just feel 295 00:17:33,759 --> 00:17:36,319 like for me, like and even The Day I like, but between Army 296 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,279 and the Dead and this, I just feel like these are just very kind 297 00:17:38,279 --> 00:17:41,839 of just forgettable type of movies. It's not like what to me, Zack 298 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,440 Snyder, Watchman three hundred, even Sucker Punched. To me, he's like 299 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,640 not a forgettable movie. Like we all failed that movie, but we all 300 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,359 said, like, man, they're going him and the team were going for 301 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,240 something here, like it didn't work, but like it's memorable for what they 302 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,680 tried. It just to me didn't work out. Where this is just I've 303 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:02,119 seen this movie before, Bunch, and there's nothing too special about That's why 304 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,880 I can't also get on board people saying, oh, it's one of the 305 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,440 worst movies. Ever, it's like, no, there's movies that do this 306 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:08,880 the same and it's much worse. I just think it's very just kind of 307 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,599 middling. It's very in the road, and that's are I'm not talking about 308 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,559 other parts or cuts. Maybe I'll see that three are comy. Man, 309 00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:19,440 this was fantastic, but then that's on Netflix, and I know they're trying 310 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,559 to do this whole, like to retroactively, like start a Snyder cut thing 311 00:18:23,599 --> 00:18:27,039 again, but it's not gonna work that way. And for what I'm curious, 312 00:18:27,079 --> 00:18:30,799 I was gonna ask you about this too. It's like I just feel 313 00:18:30,839 --> 00:18:37,039 like general audience people are gonna watch this and now be kind of disconnected. 314 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,480 Like I that's where I don't think it's terrible or bad, but I don't 315 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,680 think it's good enough that's gonna make people to come back because I don't think 316 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,079 many of the characters are memorable. I don't think there's any scenes that are 317 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:51,000 like Golden Geek's Best nominee. Like we've had tons of movies that we didn't 318 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:52,720 nominate for Best Picture, but we're like, oh, but with that scene 319 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,920 really good. I don't have that. I don't have like and performances are 320 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,359 fine, but not like there's nothing like a really big standout one, Like 321 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,160 how like Alien Covenant. We did not like that movie, but Michael fassmaner 322 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,480 got a Best supporting now because like, oh he was great as David. 323 00:19:10,519 --> 00:19:14,079 You know, like there's certain things where it's just like it just is kind 324 00:19:14,079 --> 00:19:18,279 of middling. And that's why I'm worried with uh Snyder is like I just 325 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,880 wonder if, like I don't know, it just feels like something is different 326 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,880 between this and Army of the Dead. It doesn't feel like the old Zack 327 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,799 Snyder or even if I disliked a film and it's like, oh that was 328 00:19:27,799 --> 00:19:30,880 a like good on them for trying this. You know, these just feel 329 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,599 like things I've seen for an Army that's not I've seen before that just to 330 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:38,039 me was kind of lackluster. So yeah, I just uh, I'm just 331 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,240 I don't know. I don't know where I am on this movie because I 332 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:42,279 was liking it as watching it, but then as it went on, I 333 00:19:42,319 --> 00:19:45,400 was like it less and then the next day we're said, I was like, 334 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,680 Okay, yeah, I I I really don't know on this one. 335 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,079 It's it's a tough one for me here, but I guess I can just 336 00:19:53,079 --> 00:19:56,759 say it's not great as it's not like one of my favorites, and it's 337 00:19:56,799 --> 00:20:00,519 like not like a top twenty five thirty of this year, Like it's not 338 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:06,319 it's not the the event I was hoping it was gonna be. Yeah, 339 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,119 you know, especially for what he was promising right, like it was introducing 340 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:11,880 a whole new not even world, like a whole galaxy. Was like these 341 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,960 their own politics and just all these different moving pieces. It seemed like this 342 00:20:17,079 --> 00:20:19,359 was gonna be that big event, especially at the end of the year. 343 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,519 It was. It was exciting, but I think it's pretty tragic actually for 344 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:27,000 like what they what we were supposed to be getting. And then yeah, 345 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:30,640 like fast forward, well in a few months we'll be watching part two. 346 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,000 But I feel like if you weren't getting that part two, this would very 347 00:20:33,079 --> 00:20:37,000 much fall to the same ELITEA Battle Angel criteria, you know that, Like 348 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,880 I've seen that movie, but I have not revisited that movie, and I 349 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,880 don't remember many of the scenes in that movie. I don't really remember the 350 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,680 villains. I'm pretty sure the same villain that was in this movie was in 351 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,480 that one. And because yeah, you're talking about Golden geeks and like even 352 00:20:49,519 --> 00:20:53,519 the villain, Like I think he's okay as his role, but I still 353 00:20:53,559 --> 00:20:59,279 wanted like a bigger bad, you know, and and the bigger bad that 354 00:20:59,319 --> 00:21:03,079 we have, I'm not digging it at all. No, because they're supposed 355 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:07,079 to be like this, like we'll get into Flint spoilers, but they make 356 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,559 it like this big build up and I was like, Oh, who's this 357 00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:11,640 actor gonna be. I'm very curious. It's like what we're gonna turn around 358 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,920 and it's like, oh no, it's just this guy that they showed earlier. 359 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,279 And I'm like, I'm not enjoying this. And I agree with you, 360 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:18,519 Like I like Ed Scaring, like I think he does like a good 361 00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:22,119 job with what they give him. He's not in it too much. He's 362 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,559 playing like a very generic Nazi christof Wolds type of bad guy, but like, 363 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:29,640 I think he's doing that well enough. And I do actually like Sophia, 364 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,640 buttell like I guess to get some like overal Pauses, Like I like 365 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,960 her a lot. She's never been in a leading role, and I think 366 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,920 she's good here. I think some of this it's stuff for I think she's 367 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,680 good, But I think the back half of the film, she kind of 368 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,079 disappears because it's just them recruiting a bunch of people. You know. I 369 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,240 like the first act a lot in her setup, and I want to see 370 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,039 more of that. Maybe there's more in the next part, but with this, 371 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,960 I just felt she kind of goes in the past. It sucks because 372 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,839 it's only in there a little bit, but he's all over the posters and 373 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,119 the trailers. But I really really was enjoying the Jimmy app and Hopkins character, 374 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:03,720 the android or robot. I was like, Oh, this is really 375 00:22:03,759 --> 00:22:07,920 cool and I'm excited to see where this goes. Spoilers it's five did seven 376 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,279 minutes of screen time, Like it's it's more of a setup for what's to 377 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:17,920 come, and I was really digging that. I like I always like Charlie. 378 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,079 It's tough. I always like Charlie Huntam. I like him in this 379 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,119 movie, but again, it doesn't feel like there's enough of him. It's 380 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:26,039 very surface level. I like his performance, but that's just him being charismatic, 381 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:30,119 and that was a character I really really wanted a lot more of. 382 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,400 And it just it feels like sometimes when again back to the fault thing, 383 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,839 when you get a companion and then or even if it's a republic and then 384 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,359 you don't check in on them for like a couple of days and you go 385 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,200 back, you're like, right, you're on my ship, Like, how's 386 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,160 it going. Charlie Hunt was like, oh good, I don't want this 387 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,920 life anymore. It's like, right, that's why you're here, Okay, 388 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,200 Like that's it just feels like. And the other comparison I have to this, 389 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,400 And that's where it does come into like there's a different cut is it 390 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,920 feels like when you play a video game for the second time and you skip 391 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,480 the cut scenes, so it's like you know the story a bit, but 392 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,880 you just skip all of them, and then a character says something like, 393 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,240 all right, that's what's going on. That's what this feels like, where 394 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,240 there's just should be so much more. Even though I also think I know 395 00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:10,160 he wants to do like seven Samurai, I think they should at least cut 396 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,279 a few of these characters. Yeah out for sure percent That's what I was 397 00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:17,880 gonna say, because I feel like if we if we lose a handful of 398 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,839 them, we can just spend so much more time of actually knowing them and 399 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,559 like like getting attached to them. And then like having a certain stake when 400 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,480 when they're in like a war type situation, and like we don't want to 401 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,240 lose these types of characters. But I feel like, yeah, like if 402 00:23:32,319 --> 00:23:34,599 three of them just get marked in like one scene, I'll be like who 403 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,400 are they again? Like I it just I don't know. I think even 404 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,920 this movie, we meet somebody and then he's gone pretty quickly, and I'm 405 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,519 like, oh, oh yeah, no it's true, and like that's a 406 00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:49,720 big name or like a big character name at least feel like the story wise, 407 00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:52,480 right, yeah, it was built up like oh, this is a 408 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:56,839 supportant character. And then it's like, especially the way they go to it's 409 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,480 like okay, Like I was kind of shocked in that moment. Yeah, 410 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:03,000 like you you're not gonna get this anying. But it's just like this important 411 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:11,720 character gets killed by like like a pistol. You're like, oh, for 412 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,160 like I kill that didn't feel too necessary? Like I get why you did 413 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,759 it, but it's like you couldn't have just thrown the weapon, like yeah, 414 00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:22,000 it it's it's odd. And again I know someone might go, oh 415 00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:25,359 yeah, well in that in the next cut, this KRC has a lot 416 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,440 of time. It doesn't matter. This movie. They put out this movie 417 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,759 that Netflix thought was a good idea, and I think retroactively it will kick 418 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:32,680 them in the ass because I think there's a lot of people that aren't like 419 00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:34,720 us that'll see this and go, eh, I've seen a bunch of sci 420 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,759 fi movies before, like when you have Dune coming out, Like Dune will 421 00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:40,920 be on March and then this will be on April. I think you're right 422 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,799 that, of course this helps because it's on Netflix, But like, I 423 00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:47,359 think this is enough of a it's all right for people to skip apart too 424 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,039 and maybe never come back to it, you know. That's that's why I 425 00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:52,559 think it's kind of a a shitty thing. And who knows, maybe we'll 426 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:56,039 still watch that three hour come and be like, oh, this is also 427 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,440 just still not good, right, it doesn't matter. That could be the 428 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,119 excuse, right of all, there's you got a cut and it's like an 429 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:03,440 alterative thing. It's like that doesn't mean anything to see it. But even 430 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,319 then you get you get one chance to get people in the door. And 431 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,839 it's not like the Snyder cut where that's Justice League, Batman, Superman, 432 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,559 like those are big characters that people care care about right now. I don't 433 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:18,799 think this movie gave you enough chance to care about these characters in them. 434 00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:21,519 So that's and then plus those are like iconic characters, right, so it's 435 00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:26,559 like very very different situation. No, absolutely, and it like just speaking 436 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:30,359 of like that extended cut thing, I don't think there's any one thing that 437 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,400 they gloss over that would be like, Okay, it's pretty obvious that they 438 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,160 cut this out, so I would like to see that extended. I feel 439 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,559 like just across the board they cut off like a good like like a small 440 00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:44,880 amount on like especially all the characters that we meet, like like just all 441 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,440 of that got got taken off. So it's tough for me to really like 442 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:52,079 pin on which area I want to extend more because it's just like I think 443 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,119 I need fewer characters so we can spend more time with the same like run 444 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:02,440 time that we got for this film just with those characters or yeah, like 445 00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:06,440 or just add more time to that. But I don't know, I feel 446 00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:08,240 the world building is not it the world building they get the bulk of the 447 00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:11,160 time too, And that's like a pro and con for people, because like 448 00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:15,640 that's a big snyderhithm, right, he loves he loves buildings. What we 449 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,920 talk about the Army Dead, where there's stuff that was presented and that was 450 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,119 like, oh that's cool, but there's not enough of in here. I 451 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,079 do think this doesn't suffer from Army Today because Army Ded was like, oh 452 00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:27,519 there's a robot thing, there's this thing. This is like okay, this 453 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,480 is all about the world building. But again, the world can be cool. 454 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,599 But if I don't care about killing the characters, villains, et cetera, 455 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,039 why do I care what's happening in this world? You know? And 456 00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:40,519 even though there are some characters I kind of care about, it's just that 457 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,079 where am I going to feel in a couple months? I think, I 458 00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:47,000 guess like it's helpful that in April comes out, but it's just that I 459 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:49,960 guess. I guess that's just the biggest thing that I didn't feel the overall 460 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,279 that I was invested in it as much as I want and you know, 461 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:56,319 I want to be walking away even have something, but it's just the thing 462 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,319 of like I watched this at midnight, where now the uh the next one? 463 00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,240 Like obviously probably for a view I'll watch, but it's not gonna be 464 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:07,119 like uh oh, I was really, I'm curious, like I'll be like, 465 00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:11,279 i'll catch you in the morning, you know, like I wanted that 466 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,599 fever. I wanted something going on, and she wasn't there. Unfortunate. 467 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,279 Yeah, but then I like, I said, I don't think it's awful, 468 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,759 So, uh, anything else. Don Spoor would recommend this people. 469 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:29,160 I think if you if you're curious like like we were, and you do 470 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,160 have Netflix, I think it's I think it's yeah, you could definitely throw 471 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,359 it on. It's not. I mean, it is over two hours, 472 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,200 and there were certain moments when I was kind of being bored with it. 473 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:42,000 Uh, but I mean give it a shot. You can always turn it 474 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,759 off. It's not like you have to go out to the theaters or anything 475 00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:47,960 like that. So you just pause that three minutes, be done with it, 476 00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:52,119 right, fifteen minutes I watch fifteen minutes of that Galacadot movie on Netflix. 477 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,960 Never came back. Oh yeah, I've seen enough. Yeah, yeah, 478 00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:59,000 Like that's it. I always have that thirty minute rule. It's like 479 00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:02,400 you can, like if you're watching with someone else like that, at any 480 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,119 point in that first thirty minutes, you just are not vibe with it. 481 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,720 We could just turn it off and find something else. But which is interesting 482 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,839 because I feel like the first thirty minutes of this film is actually quite interesting 483 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,839 when they're when they're introducing to everything. But it's I think it's past that 484 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,200 point when I was kind of losing it. But yeah, I would recommend 485 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:26,319 it to Netflix viewers. I delay there Netflix viewers. Yeah. I think 486 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,680 for me, it's like if you like so I finding like Snyder, check 487 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,720 it out and see. But I wouldn't be recommended like my mom or anything 488 00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:34,359 like that. I'm not like, you gotta see it, you know. 489 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,160 I was not like Dune. We're like, oh, you gotta go see 490 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,599 Dune, and Dune's great, you know. So No, that's a big, 491 00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:42,519 big, big difference there, because for Dune, I found out there's 492 00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:45,599 people, there's people. I was found this out yesterday. I was talking 493 00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:48,599 to people in my class. Many people have not even heard of Dune. 494 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,359 They haven't heard of the movie Dune or like the Book of Dune, which 495 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,960 was kind of shocking to me because I just thought that was such a big 496 00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,119 movie of van I'm like, you got so many powerful actors and there's a 497 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,680 daya Timothy Shallomy, like come on people and they're like, dude, like 498 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,519 what's it about? And then like if if people are if they have to 499 00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:07,440 choose between one sci fi moving to see in their entire life, I would 500 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,039 say Dune over this, you know, yeah a hundred times. Not Star 501 00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:18,440 Wars. Eh ooh, I think, uh who that's a good one. 502 00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:25,640 Oh maybe yeah, Like Star Wars is just so soured recently, like in 503 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,519 my brain, so go back to the class. But like if you if 504 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:33,200 it's like you got that ticket for IMAX, are you seeing the original Star 505 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:44,200 Wars? Are you throwing on Dune with the fucking Hans Zimmer score? I 506 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,720 don't know, because I love Dune, but Dune doesn't have Han Solo in 507 00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:51,079 it, and I love I love as much as I love Dune, there's 508 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:52,759 no character as Gray's Harrison for it's on solo, you know, Like no, 509 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,720 you're right, sorry, Like for like the movie itself, I would 510 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,039 probably have to pick Star Wars. But I'm such a glutton for just like 511 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:06,920 eye pleasure, and that's that's what done is as long as as well as 512 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,160 ear pleasure. I say, yeah, well we're gonna take our first break 513 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:17,319 and we'll be back, and we talk about spoilers all right, So let's 514 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,640 uh, let's let's get into this. We'll probably start, you know, 515 00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:23,079 at the beginning as usual. But so we meet what was her name, 516 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,640 Cora? Right, that's her name or yeah, I don't remember. Yes, 517 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,440 she's some sort of Sophia. Butteler is a real name. Oh right, 518 00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:34,960 the actual actual name. Right, she has some thre d's or something 519 00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:41,680 like that. Yeah, yeah, it's important. Yeah, the trade solo. 520 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,599 I was like, wait a second, is he just riffing off both 521 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,599 these things? She's I don't know, she's some seed planter. She's like 522 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:56,240 moving rocks. I didn't really she was, right, okay, and that's 523 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:02,079 why she moved the rock. Okay, cool? Like whatever, how did 524 00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:03,519 you feel? Because I've seen this talked about what did you feel about the 525 00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:08,480 landscapes in this movie, like the CGI and the planets around and just even 526 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:15,519 in general? I think I think in general it was it was working for 527 00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:19,079 me. It was working for me enough. It wasn't anything to like again 528 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,079 to be like, man like, just what this world was? It is 529 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,559 enough for me to really want to push for a golden geek stom or anything 530 00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:27,720 like that. Like it never crossed that point, which it's strange for a 531 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,640 Steinder film, because usually his visuals are like like some of the top tiers 532 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,640 off the year. You know, did he do the cinematography for this one? 533 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,440 I know he did it for Army the Dead, right he did. 534 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,359 Yeah, I didn't like his or any dead, but I don't think he 535 00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:45,519 did. Okay, I think are you am I delayed for you? Are 536 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,559 you? Is there something? Because I fig you're a little delayed for me. 537 00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,079 But I don't know if it's my WiFi or your WiFi. I'll try. 538 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,640 I'll close some tabs here, I'll see what's going on. Cream is 539 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,960 watching some dune porn on the side. He's watching Dune right now as we 540 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,720 speak. That's all the cos let me know if I'm still delayed. But 541 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,000 you sound good for me, so it must have been my yeah, uh, 542 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:07,279 you know on the Pride shot there you go, there's a couple of 543 00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:08,599 times when we were talking over each other. So I was curious what was 544 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:15,359 going on? Curious. But for the World Landscapes, I think for the 545 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:21,039 majority of it, I thought it was like a seven seven and a half 546 00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:22,720 out of ten, like you know, like like that's that's pretty good. 547 00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:27,160 It's it's I don't know if I would say it's great, but it's pretty 548 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,480 good. That opening shot. Wasn't a fan of it, just like the 549 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:37,440 super super bright background of the Jupiter like planet. I think it was a 550 00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:40,599 cool idea of just having again like you're in this you're in this different planet 551 00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:44,759 that has a complete like just what it would be like to have a planet 552 00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:46,039 that close to our planet. Like, I think I like that idea, 553 00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:50,920 but just the way that it was working when we had different characters talking like 554 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,000 in front of that landscape was a little bit iffy, and especially like that 555 00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:57,599 village. I don't know what it was. The village didn't look bad, 556 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,200 but I feel like in that moment it looked quite bad, like in the 557 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,319 background, probably just because it was like a more nighttime shot with the planet 558 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,920 in the in the background there. And I don't know if this is like 559 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:13,000 Zack Snyder always does this, but there's always this like at least I've noticed 560 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,440 in the last few Snyder films I've seen, because I noticed it in Sucker 561 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:21,519 Punch as well, But they do this like blur effect like around the screen, 562 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,720 and I don't know if that's just to hide the CGI. No, 563 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,680 he he used to love its punch, but he used a lot in Army 564 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,920 the Dead. It's this thing called a dreams lens. I don't like it 565 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,440 really. I think he really spammed it a lot of Army the Dead, 566 00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:37,799 so I feel like it was a little less here. But yeah, I 567 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,599 don't like the dream lens multiple times. I'm not a I'm not a fan, 568 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,960 but he's yeah, he's definitely a fan of it. Yeah, I'll 569 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,279 tell you what you're not gonna see, ay, dream lenses in the geek. 570 00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:52,279 I do think so maybe for a dream sequence, but that'd be about 571 00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:57,480 it, you know, like, yeah, there you go. So yeah, 572 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,440 oh yeah, you just asked about Landscape. So yeah, seven seven 573 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:06,119 and a half CGI. Overall, I thought I thought it was pretty good, 574 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,119 honestly. I I especially for I don't know what the budget was, 575 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,920 but I know the budget was like shared amongst the two films, right for 576 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,000 this one. I think so, but I think it's a bigger Netflix budget. 577 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,960 Okay, I don't know. How's the CG for you. I like, 578 00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:22,639 for the most part, I liked it. I thought Jimmy was really 579 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:28,320 great. That character was like, yeah, he was realistic and he was 580 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,280 great. Yeah. Yeah, that's why he looks so good. They didn't 581 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,639 spend much of money on him, but like, no, he just looked 582 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,599 lifelike, which is good because we've seen one that doesn't happen. I think 583 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,639 landscapes, it kind of would depend on the shot because I liked the idea 584 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:43,039 of that plant being so close. But sometimes it just didn't look like it 585 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,679 just looked like it was a backdrop, but not in a good way. 586 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,480 And there's this scene where they're God of Fire and they were talking and it 587 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:52,239 was just her and the other guy, and there's something off with the landscapes 588 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:57,639 by the two where's like this just doesn't look like just it just looks too 589 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,199 cgi. And there'd be a little times where like, okay, there's a 590 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,719 ship here and there. But for the most part, I thought it was 591 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,559 pasted well. I like I. It was still good enough for like I, 592 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,039 I didn't have too many major complaints. There's nothing like log truck in 593 00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:12,920 here anything, you know, but it just wasn't also like seamless, where 594 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,840 there was times like Okay, maybe this, uh, this, this character 595 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:21,119 in this background don't blend completely as I'd want it to. But I said, 596 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,000 I was fluctuating between seven and a seven and a half until I remember 597 00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:28,119 that planet where they like they find uh what do they called, like the 598 00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:30,519 blood Axes, like Ray Fisher's character and his sister man. When they were 599 00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:34,679 flying into that planet, I swear I was watching like an episode of Clone 600 00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,800 Wars. Like all of the cities in the background, they look like they 601 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,760 spend two minutes on like Microsoft paint or something. I'm being pretty hyperbole here, 602 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,000 but it's like it was very, very very bad. There was like 603 00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:49,800 one window on each of these like skyscraper looking things, and they were just 604 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,159 like so so flat, like like one tone, Like it didn't seem like 605 00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:57,960 they spent any time really like I don't know, detailing the textures there. 606 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,239 So that one was atrocious for me. Luckily, you know, it's not 607 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,440 really uh it's not a major area that we spent a lot of time in, 608 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,800 but just as they're flying in it, I just couldn't believe how bad 609 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,519 that looked in comparison to some of the other things. Because yeah, for 610 00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:12,559 the most part, I thought it was I thought it was pretty down good. 611 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,920 I will say I feel like we tell it. Sucker bench of this 612 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,280 movie is not that I don't think it has those color levels. I will 613 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,159 say like the third act, especially when Core was fighting at Skarn, I 614 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,480 just felt like I had some sucker punch, just vibes going on, just 615 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,920 certain shots and whatnot. But that's one thing too. I also just feel 616 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,320 like action wise, nothing stood out too much of like a great action scene, 617 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,840 which I feel like Snyder usually does too. I think they're all like 618 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,559 service Ball. There's nothing bad, even though I was expecting the scene where 619 00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:43,800 she kind of stops the assaulters to be a bit more kick ass, but 620 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,400 there was one time where her and this guy, we're just kind of pushing 621 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,519 each other back and forth. I was like, I don't really know what's 622 00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:52,199 going on here, you know, I was waiting for a little more houspa 623 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,000 there, and like, I don't know if like the CGI or sorry, 624 00:36:55,039 --> 00:37:00,920 the the SloMo is definitely a choice and it could definitely elevate. Means you 625 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,880 probably don't love in the Transformers movies. I feel like I feel like I 626 00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:06,760 like it enough. I've only seen one, so I don't know you only 627 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,119 seen one Transformer movie? Yeah, I saw, and then I was like, 628 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,559 what we talk about road Moon? I saw that first one, which 629 00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:14,079 everyone says is the best one. I still want that's it for me. 630 00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:19,039 I don't need any more the okay when I it's tough. I did see 631 00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:21,920 those ones, but I just count like the Bay ones. The Bay Ones. 632 00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:23,079 Yeah, the Bay one. I always saw the first one and that 633 00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:28,800 was it. I've seen Bumblebee and I saw what the hell argle Beasts or 634 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:35,639 whatever, rise of the Beasts arg Beasts there they are Transformers, their gorillas 635 00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:39,440 and animals. Now the most recent one with the ye g I Joe, 636 00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:45,079 Yeah, where's that announcement? So yeah, I again, it's been a 637 00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:47,599 while, so I've seen Transformers, but I feel like I I like the 638 00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:53,480 addition of the slow mo in those ones and in this one, like I 639 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,599 feel like it was almost just a way to like mask the fact that they 640 00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:00,519 didn't really put a lot of effort in the fight choreography. And that might 641 00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:04,480 that might be harsh, but that's really how I took it, because like 642 00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:07,679 that, yeah, that that assault scene in the Barn, I thought that 643 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,119 was gonna be like a fucking John Wick moment. Like I was like really 644 00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:15,280 really hyped leading into up until that here. Yeah, but percent like we 645 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,719 like we haven't seen our lead do really anything except for farm up until this 646 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,320 point. We don't really know anything about her as well, like we like 647 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,199 like we don't get her back story. Yeah, exactly. She's just standing 648 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,519 there with a fucking hand axe, looking like the Northmen just ready to like 649 00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:37,000 sh she's fucking ripped for this movie is very muscles. Yeah, she's Yeah, 650 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:38,760 she put in the work like no that she's like a massive girl, 651 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,639 but just like you could tell like in other roles and then he's like, 652 00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:45,559 okay, I gotta look like a warrior here. And it definitely kudos to 653 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:49,280 her, like and because like a lot of the other people are just wearing 654 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,400 really big jackets, so like I don't think they really falled up too much. 655 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,039 No, No, it's yeah, she looks. Except Jamond Hunter too, 656 00:38:55,079 --> 00:39:00,480 he got fucking massively. He was like Hunter, he's like the general 657 00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:06,079 they find. Yeah, he was huge and he's the biggest I've ever seen 658 00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:08,280 him. He no his shoulders. Man, when he was standing there, 659 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,119 I couldn't believe how big he was. I like, I like he always. 660 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,360 I feel like all of his roles is funny. While we were watching 661 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,840 it, shit was like, man, I don't know why, but this 662 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,920 character just seems like he's always the exact same character in all these movies. 663 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,440 I'm like, yeah, fair enough. He's usually a pretty close uh like, 664 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,880 I don't know closely the same archetype that he plays in all these movies, 665 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,639 but and like he's usually showing his arms off at least like maybe no 666 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,840 shirt. But I felt like he ate a previous version of himself, Like 667 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,519 he was so huge in those moments, and I don't know, maybe a 668 00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:38,960 little underutilized. We see him too too much after that, don't go to 669 00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:44,440 general. Oh yeah, So back to the barn scene though, Yeah, 670 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,360 I was really really looking forward to just crazy fight choreography. And it's just 671 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,559 like you said, like it was hard to even tell what was exactly going 672 00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:54,840 on, Like it was her against at least five plus of these army men. 673 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,599 You know, there's the the private guy that switched sides in there, 674 00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:00,239 so I guess he kind of joined her tea, But for the most point, 675 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,960 for the most part, it was just her against all these soldiers with 676 00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:08,599 guns blasters while she has his one hand axe. And I don't really feel 677 00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:13,239 like I saw too much. And then it's just over and it's not like 678 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,880 the John Waite thing where it's like, okay, it's him versus these twenty 679 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,159 guys. It is unbelievable, but you somehow believe you get out of it. 680 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,440 This was like, have they not just shot her yet? And it's 681 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,159 not because I'm trying to say, like, oh, they should shoot this 682 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,639 woman, it said. It's like they didn't frame it in a way that 683 00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:30,440 she moves fast enough or kicks ass enough, like the one where she's kicking 684 00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:34,599 ass, and then like the third guy is like already like disarming her, 685 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,280 Like what's going on? Why? Yeah? Everyone else is just like aiming 686 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,119 their guns out. Yeah, like, clearly you shoot this woman right, 687 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,840 Like they already killed two people. It's not like they're worried to kill people. 688 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,599 They already killed the two most highest ranking people on this planet. So 689 00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:51,039 it's just some random woman that they're like, I don't know if we're gonna 690 00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:52,559 shoot her, And so yeah, I wish I wish that had a little 691 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:54,679 more of an impact would happen, because like, oh, this is when 692 00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:58,960 it's gonna turn and that's where then they like even the last fight scene with 693 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,960 her and Ed Scurrin just doesn't I barely remember anything about it just didn't stand 694 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,920 out. I knew it was them. They were flipping around that pole lot 695 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,199 and I thought she kept breaking his arm over and over and that's pretty much 696 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,800 the extent of that scene. And he fell, which was very strange because 697 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,239 I was like, hey, he can't be dead. And then they brought 698 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,039 him back. He just looked like ed skin because I thought, oh, 699 00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:19,440 okay, I get it. Snyder's doing his Vader thing. He's gonna fall 700 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,800 and then next time we see him, he's gonna have a suit, he's 701 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,480 gonna be all badass. Ah. They just put him in their version of 702 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,360 the Bath to the Tank. He looks like he's back to being the scene 703 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,599 guy with the bad haircut. Cool. And then he fell from I don't 704 00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:34,039 know how far, but like and that's where maybe that again, I'm not 705 00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:36,719 trying to say that because like there is that radar cut. Maybe that'll be 706 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,719 better. But here was like it just looked like he like fell down some 707 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,880 stairs, like he fell stories down all these rocks, and then when we 708 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,840 see him, it was like he has a couple of cuts on his face. 709 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,760 I'm like, what, like uh, Like it was super disappointed. 710 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,840 It was such a letdown, and we'll get down to what that scene ends 711 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,599 up. I was like, that was even a bigger letdown. I was 712 00:41:54,639 --> 00:41:58,519 like, oh, that hole, that whole villaintees. I thought it was 713 00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:00,280 gonna get me back in I was like, oh, not so, not 714 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,119 so much sheer, No for sure, I couldn't. Yeah, no, 715 00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:08,280 one hundred percent. I knew he was alive after that. That's because because 716 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,519 she smokes him in the face with his little beater stick that he keeps using 717 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,360 throughout the film, and he just looks limp, like it looks like she 718 00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:20,840 literally one shot him and then he's just limp falls however long and I assumed 719 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,519 that he was just gonna land in the water, but no, he lands 720 00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,000 on the fucking rocks. Yeah. I would imagine he would at least have 721 00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:28,239 some intestines out of his body or whatnot, but no, he's just like 722 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,199 unconscious there. So that that was pretty and just the whole fight in general. 723 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,920 Yeah, for that to be like the big climax of this movie, 724 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,000 major letdown. And there was a little bit of slow moo in that scene, 725 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,199 but it still seemed like one of those scenes that had less of it 726 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,679 in comparison to some of the other moments, because like you even shouted out 727 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,199 the uh, Like the Cantena fight scene, when the when the shooters come 728 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,320 back, and uh, it's funny. Like I again, like I just 729 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,840 feel like the slow mo was masking some like just some lazy choreography. And 730 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,920 that wasn't even a lot of hand to hand combat. It was mostly just 731 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,920 shooting. But there there's so many moments of her like like or like how 732 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,559 the scene starts like you have three shooters in the front and then one guy 733 00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:10,239 behind them, and she has a gun on her hip and then it just 734 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,480 goes to the one guy pull up his weapon. It goes like immediately slow 735 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,320 mo and she just like does a one eighty spin, yeah, shoots the 736 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,239 guy. Dodge is like a hundred blazers all around her, and it was 737 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,480 just like, man, what plot armor does this character have? And even 738 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,920 when we have the flashbacks with her, that's all slow mo, just blasters 739 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,239 going on all around. It felt like I see her slim flag down like 740 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,199 and I heard on the mountain. I felt like it was a thirty minute 741 00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:37,280 shot. It wasn't, but I just felt like we just kept seeing like 742 00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:40,199 so because of the SlowMo, though it feels that long, I like it 743 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,519 was kind of unintentional. It's fun I don't think it's bad. It was 744 00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:46,079 just a moment where she's telling her backster and like, okay, cool. 745 00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:51,880 This movie has lost exposition every character. It's literally go to new planet. 746 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,880 Fine character, Hey, what's your story? Well, a couple of years 747 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,159 ago and that's a dark tail. Okay, cool. They do something cool, 748 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,280 then they're a part of the team. That is the whole last hour 749 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,679 this movie, over and over and over again. And that's where I was 750 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,000 like, just cut down again. I know he wants seven, but like, 751 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,119 cut you could cut blood acts, you could cut blood axes. Like 752 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,800 it's not even his sister. It's like his like right hand woman, Like 753 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,719 cut her out, and I don't give a ship. Like and I met 754 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:22,920 the guy last week, the guy who plays uh, the guy who is 755 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,199 the slave and the guy the has the hair and the gold tooth. And 756 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,480 he's like, oh you know they make that deal. No, no, 757 00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:32,000 no, no, the guy the no he has gold teeth. This guy's 758 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:37,800 a gold tooth he has. Yeah, so that guy met him last week 759 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,280 on Dave's stream. Very nice guy, right porter he yeah, he voices 760 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,639 dark Side in the Zach Snyer film and stuff like that. It's a very 761 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,320 nice guy. I disliked the scene, but I was like, that not 762 00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:54,639 him, It's not I would just cut like shirtless guy, like three hundred 763 00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:57,519 guy. I would just cut, you know, like I just was not. 764 00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:00,440 I did not care at all. Who knows, maybe if I watched 765 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,360 it. I watched it, flew them. Maybe that guy's like a hunk, 766 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,960 but like he was there and then he was just like silent the rest 767 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,800 of the movie and sometimes shirtless again. I was like, what are we 768 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,679 doing? Like there's just so many like yeah, he had like he had 769 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:20,199 to, like three hundred guy. Okay, now what was his actor's name? 770 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,079 Though? He said reporter No, So I didn't meet the I didn't 771 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:25,719 meet the shirtless guy. It was the slave owner guy. Okay. Sorry. 772 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,039 I was so confused because I'm like, I don't know how to tell 773 00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:35,400 Travis, but that that wasn't reporter No. I explained him, no slave 774 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,280 guy and stuff like that. You know, I don't mind that. I 775 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,440 like the little bit where he tries to tame the beast and the beast just 776 00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:45,079 kills him. But like, there's these characters and now I can't remember. 777 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:49,199 I went off a fucking tangent. Where were we talking about them? And 778 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,440 there's just something with these, like the characters, the seventh Samurai thing. 779 00:45:54,559 --> 00:46:00,480 It's an immediate introduction that oh so right, because she's the first tells her 780 00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:02,119 origin right to that old guy who we never see again, and then the 781 00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:06,519 whole movie's like that where it's origin origin. So hopefully in part two. 782 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,880 My worry is they show that teaser for part two and there was like a 783 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,559 scene of Givant hunts in the past, so I'm like, why is there 784 00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:15,400 more origin stuff? But cool, we might get that. So she's sounding 785 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,480 her origin right, and I don't mind this. It's pretty much just Kemora's 786 00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:22,480 origin. Right of they show up, kill the planet, take her over, 787 00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:23,559 and she becomes the daughter of Fan. I was like, that's what 788 00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:28,039 it is. It's this guy who's Santos and she's the daughter. Okay, 789 00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:30,679 cool, And it's this cut of and we had to find someone to mate 790 00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:34,639 because if you have someone you love, they'll always watch you. Smash cut 791 00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:37,320 to two seconds later, him just dead on the ground, like and it 792 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,039 wasn't it's not none of the badest scene. I just like I gotta laugh 793 00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:45,000 out a little bit, and just like we just met her husband and dead 794 00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:49,920 gone, just done. And it's fine because she's sound. I just gotta 795 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,119 giggle. I was like, Okay, I love so hard because like in 796 00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:55,960 that moment too, Shanna watching it and she's like, oh, I bet 797 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,159 this character is gonna come back around, and I'm like, no, he's 798 00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:01,320 gonna fucking die. And like as I said it, it goes to the 799 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:06,079 next frame and he's just on the ground. So it's like the timing of 800 00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:13,079 it was just so hysterical and just like same thing, Like it's just weird, 801 00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:15,239 Like why do you I don't know if there is that in a longer 802 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:20,000 cut or like what if she's reason that would make more sense. Why do 803 00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:22,679 you even need to introduce her having a husband if he's just gonna die right 804 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,039 away and it feel like she's like having PTSD about him, like for the 805 00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:30,039 film, like if you watch like past that point, at no point would 806 00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:34,000 you imagine that she like had a past relationship, Like it's not like it's 807 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,239 a haunting thing that like built her character to be who she is. It 808 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,719 was, Yeah, it's not like and I thought it might be like a 809 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,559 force marriage and I don't know if it was that because they seem happy together, 810 00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:49,199 like they're embracing and explain is he also like a child of war or 811 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,719 is he just like a straight up nazipiece of shold she fell in love with 812 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:57,199 though that's the one thing probably yeah, which one? I imagine the second 813 00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:00,519 one? He's just a fucking yeah yeah, he's yeah, fucking empire. 814 00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:05,760 Let's do it so like like when she was split off, if he didn't 815 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,719 die, I don't know. And like the origin was good enough. They 816 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:13,559 had some war stuff going on, so I know it did job. I 817 00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:17,880 didn't love the origin honestly, I I in hindsight, like, I guess 818 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,559 you have this tie on how she is a badass, Like that does make 819 00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:24,519 sense because she's just a farmer girl. Like how does she you know, 820 00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:29,639 dismantle all those soldiers in the barn? Like other than just being I guess 821 00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:32,119 i'll lumbered, Like she's she's toned from working in the in the field and 822 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,559 very strong from that, but like, how does she have all this fighting 823 00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:38,760 skills? So for that reason, I'm okay with it. But I like, 824 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,519 uh, I did like the opening of it of it was very just 825 00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:46,639 grounded. We met the village, very horny village. They just all want 826 00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:53,280 to reproduce and just just let us fuck first five minutes, yeah, just 827 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:58,119 like yeah, and then like there was back. It was fucking yellow jacket 828 00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:00,119 guy. It was just even funnier. He's wearing fu an Amish beard. 829 00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:07,000 But and like, which was just such a weird. So that guy that 830 00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:12,440 was named Dan, she was banging right. They really are like implying or 831 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,599 like they were implying that everybody just wanted them to clap cheeks because they're just 832 00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:17,239 I don't know the most fit to do to do. So it was very 833 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,159 weird. They don't even talk to each other at any point, you know. 834 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,639 But then I swear at one point the character that the girl who's the 835 00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:29,079 blonde girl I can't remember, she's like the one that almost gets assaulted. 836 00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:31,440 She's like, oh, I was walking by Dens Barracks and I heard some 837 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,960 sounds of pleasure and I thought she was gonna say that. And Sophia, 838 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,280 but Tell's character is gonna be a little off put, like, oh, 839 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,079 he went with another woman, Like that's what I thought was gonna happen, 840 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,360 because we didn't see them talk, we didn't see a scene, so I 841 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,559 thought, Okay, there's maybe a crush. But he's like he's just a 842 00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:51,599 man whoror whatever. It's like okay. Then she's like ha, but like 843 00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:53,840 she didn't even say yes, and something like was that you he was banging? 844 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,360 Like I'm insinuating yeah, that like he banged her, I guess, 845 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,840 but like what happened in between, Like they had their meeting, they banged, 846 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,480 then she went back to go talk to the old guy who they had 847 00:50:05,559 --> 00:50:08,679 this fucking like cover. But it's like if so if Sophia Hotels butt ass 848 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,760 naked, the guy is still just gonna like it's just a seat through sheet, 849 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,000 Like what is this? What is this coverage that's going on? So, 850 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,079 and that's what I say to Emily where it's like they're talking about this 851 00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:22,719 den guy and the guy later on comes to him is like, oh, 852 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,360 like Dan, he was looking for you, and she's like, oh, 853 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,039 what is dead one on me? I don't know. So at first I 854 00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:30,760 was like, oh, I guess maybe this is a guy trying to set 855 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,480 his friend up with her or something. But then they're trying to insinuate now 856 00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:37,480 that they have something going on, and which was so weird. I was 857 00:50:37,519 --> 00:50:39,639 like, Okay, they're set up a love triangle, classic, right, 858 00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:44,079 It happens all these movies. What happens this fucking Den guy doesn't even go 859 00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:45,159 on the mission. He just stays at the farm. So it's like, 860 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,199 and I guess maybe that's in part two. Maybe is that there's gonna be 861 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,320 like a love triangle that she was like she she was. She's been with 862 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,039 Den for like I feel like they're like seeing each other. Maybe they're just 863 00:50:55,039 --> 00:51:00,320 friends of benefits and now she's falling in love with even though they're I to 864 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,639 insinuate that she's falling love with, I can't remember the coward's name or Guinnar 865 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,880 or I like that actor. I felt there was not enough even to imply 866 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,960 they were falling in love either then like then some longing looks. It's just 867 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,719 like, yeah, I I this whole love story so far, I'm not 868 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,719 feeling either way. No, maybe part two will be different. But whether 869 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,039 it's a trifecta her with one, I don't know. It's just not working 870 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:29,840 for every love that they introduced for her potential lover I thought was just such 871 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,320 a waste, Like with a flashback one he dies instantly checked mark that one. 872 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,280 Den is there and they don't do absolutely anything. They don't even talk 873 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,360 to each other. I thought that was an absolute waste. And with Gunyar 874 00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:45,639 or Gunyar whatever the hell's name is, man, like, why the fuck 875 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:50,480 was even on the trip, Like like, like I get connection. He 876 00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,760 is a connect No, he has connection of that blood acts is re member. 877 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,599 He sold to him, so that's why they need him to connect them 878 00:51:54,599 --> 00:51:57,800 with. Okay, you got me there, but like, fuck, I 879 00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:01,599 don't know the actor's okay, but I just for his character, I'm like, 880 00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:04,920 man, what about Like I felt like the noble at the end when 881 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,480 he's like everyone you know, makes sense for them to be here, but 882 00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:08,800 why are you here? But I guess he does save them in the end, 883 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,440 So I'm just giving a heart him a hard time. But you just 884 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,239 seem like a fucking fish out of water, like so uncomfortable with every situation 885 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:25,159 they're in. But uh going the uh started with that the oh yeah, 886 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,840 so that's what it was with the opening and just because I was saying how 887 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,360 I didn't love her whole backstory actually and like it fits for her having the 888 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,920 military skill, but I did like the whole setup of the villager thing, 889 00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:42,000 but like it maybe you can correct me here. It seems like she had 890 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,559 been a part of that village for like, what less than two years, 891 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:50,880 because she says two seasons. I imagine that's too like crop seasons, so 892 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,519 maybe two years in that sense. But the way that it's set up, 893 00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:57,039 it almost it almost seems like she's been a part of the village like her 894 00:52:57,079 --> 00:53:00,000 whole life. And then you can tell it's revealed that she's not exactly who 895 00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:06,039 she says she is. She's just like it seems like she is a lifelong 896 00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:08,119 member of that of that village, and then until we get her backstory, 897 00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:12,559 she's just been there for a very short amount of time. She has this 898 00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:15,719 like adopted type father dynamic thing. I don't know, like it was working 899 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,960 in the moment, but then as soon as all that was revealed, it 900 00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:21,960 just totally did not make sense to me. And it actually makes me like 901 00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,679 that that whole opening sequence a lot less just knowing that, because it just 902 00:53:24,679 --> 00:53:29,119 seemed I don't know, again, maybe I'm just being a little too hypercritical 903 00:53:29,159 --> 00:53:34,760 here, but it just really did not make sense for her motivation to just, 904 00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:37,920 I don't know, end up on where she was and then it was 905 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,760 just a short pit stop and to carry on with her her main goal which 906 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,760 was just a I don't know, be a rebel and bring down the enemy 907 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:46,840 there. So yeah, see that was what I was just kind of, 908 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,559 fine, that's fine. She's on the run, she's found this community. 909 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,360 Who knows how long a season is for them because it's space world, so 910 00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:59,559 who knows? And and then I guess she's just like they talk about the 911 00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:02,079 other guy in a coward. But she was like unless that girl's gonna get 912 00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:06,719 assaulted. She was ready to bounce too, you know. She was like 913 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,159 literally like get her horse or whatever ready, like she was gone, and 914 00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:12,559 she literally just said, oh, like I can't be here, like these 915 00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:15,280 people are gonna die. And I gotta say myself was like, geez okay, 916 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,639 like I don't actually know if we needed that wrinkle, I would have 917 00:54:19,639 --> 00:54:23,440 been but I don't know. I maybe I really don't know. I don't 918 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,039 know if I needed that wrinkle from her. I feel like you could just 919 00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:30,280 have her stay there fight. I get. I liked her being like these 920 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,679 people just saw them get executed and they think they can make a deal like 921 00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:37,159 they're they're goners. So I did like she was using that aspect of yeah, 922 00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:39,599 why would you think like they just killed your two leaders. Why would 923 00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:43,440 anybody think, oh, we can work really hard and they'll find the value. 924 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,800 It's like, no, And I like that she's seen that before. 925 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,639 But I feel like even then they didn't need to establish she was part of 926 00:54:47,679 --> 00:54:50,880 the army. I just liked her being that smart to know, no, 927 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,400 this is not gonna go our away. We got to get out of here. 928 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,519 But I wish it just cut that and just got her to like just 929 00:54:55,519 --> 00:54:59,519 fighting, because we already have like the kind of coward character over there. 930 00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:01,480 We don't need another one. And like I said, if that girl doesn't 931 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,719 get assaulted that night, she's I'm assuming just gone or would she like turn 932 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,800 around. I don't know. So it didn't really work for me in that 933 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,599 moment, even though I liked the character for the most part. But yeah, 934 00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:15,880 to me, I liked the tension of you know, we meet some 935 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,480 characters. I like the night where yeah, we're all just gonna get it 936 00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:21,519 on. I'm liking the interactions going on to friendly people. I like when 937 00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:24,360 the you know, their version of the Mother World Nazis show up. I 938 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:30,280 was a little underwhelmed by those Guardian people whatever with the big hats. I 939 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:35,159 thought they had no aura. They looked very cool, but they're just moving 940 00:55:35,159 --> 00:55:37,480 around like rail with people in the rain and stuff. Like when I saw 941 00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:38,719 them, like oh, these are really cool, but like they're just moving 942 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,719 around like dudes in caution. Like that's to me where it's just like, 943 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,280 uh, not that they had to have this because it's a big role, 944 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,039 but it's like the way Hugo Weaving plays V and V for Mendetta, whereas 945 00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:52,119 he can't see his face, you only hear him, but he has such 946 00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:54,360 a gravitass. You don't need that level because they're not main characters. But 947 00:55:54,679 --> 00:55:59,440 they just felt like people in costumes and cause play didn't feel like anything like 948 00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:02,480 all these cool I guess there are just like they're just writing their Bible. 949 00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:06,159 I guess they're just writing things down. But I was like, okay, 950 00:56:06,199 --> 00:56:08,639 no longer cool. Like I I it was like a Night's Event moment where 951 00:56:08,639 --> 00:56:13,599 it's like, oh, the trailers and images we saw these characters were much 952 00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:15,880 better than when we got them in the film, and now I don't I 953 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,880 don't care too much about them. It really felt like we like just their 954 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,519 appearance and and the fact that they were with like the Nobles party when they 955 00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:24,559 get on the planet. I was getting like Benijestrit vibes of like, oh, 956 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,320 like, who are these individuals? They had? They had cool like 957 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,599 I did, like their designs of everything. They had interesting like masks where 958 00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:34,559 you couldn't see their face, like you're saying, but yeah, they really 959 00:56:34,639 --> 00:56:37,239 didn't do anything. And we saw a couple get just murked later on, 960 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,800 so yeah, really no gravitas, like you said, no, no presence, 961 00:56:43,159 --> 00:56:46,360 unlike the Benijestrit, which again doing that Dune in comparison. Not that 962 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:51,199 they're in the same caliber by any means, but that's a second. I 963 00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:55,440 break and we be right back with some more rebel moon and we're back. 964 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,000 But as I was saying that, I like the intensity when they show up. 965 00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:01,239 I like the whole crossing of they're gonna lie and say, hey, 966 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,840 we won't have enough for ourselves. We have some reverse but let's not say 967 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,880 that because they'll want more. You have the guy who, like I know, 968 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,079 decides to say something, which is like again, happens to many movies. 969 00:57:12,119 --> 00:57:15,440 I wish they just made the argument before a little more heated, because 970 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,719 it just felt like he was like, I'll definitely listen to what you have 971 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,960 to say, and they're like, well, you know, we could provide 972 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,239 It's like, all right, I guess we got to go this way for 973 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,239 the movie. But the first actor I liked. I like setting up the 974 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,920 community of the village like whatever. I really like Jimmy and the girl, 975 00:57:30,159 --> 00:57:32,280 Like he pulls up Like the rest of the goons and stuff. They all 976 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,880 suck. They're just generic bad guys. But he's helping. They're shooting him, 977 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,760 you know, very much like AI robot videos we see today. I 978 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,960 people are making them like poking with those sticks and stuff. But I liked 979 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,760 this. I liked that they shot him and then later on when it comes 980 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,559 back and they tell him to shoot, very cool Mollium just holding that gun. 981 00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:51,480 He like shoots it off to the side. I love when he talks 982 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,719 about the girl and how like courage is gone and he used to fight but 983 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,920 yeaha YadA and she touches the you know, the face and leaves that like 984 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,440 warmart like all that stuff. I like, you know, not that it 985 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,079 was perfect, it's one of the best movies, but like I was really 986 00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:06,840 into the opening, Like I said, act one of the movie, I 987 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,760 was like, Okay, I'm digging most of this, and then I think 988 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,880 once we leave, there's some issues, but yeah, same thing, Jimmy, 989 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,079 That's definitely a highlight for the movie. You though it was a little 990 00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:17,599 mount. I was very much enjoying that character to the point where I was 991 00:58:17,639 --> 00:58:21,360 disappointed that he was not on the whole movie because it's just like, this 992 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,920 is really cool what they're setting up. Again, That's why I would take 993 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,880 less characters and just put him along for the ride. You know. Was 994 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,440 he clearly helped. I just like he like fucking ran away after it as 995 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:36,079 soon as he gets introduced, Like it's pretty evident that he I don't know, 996 00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:39,639 he just seems pretty pretty wholesome, like pretty pretty heartwarming. He's not 997 00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:43,159 like the you know, eye robot, and it's not like when the Eye 998 00:58:43,199 --> 00:58:45,400 robots go all red that they're they're the villains anymore, like like he did 999 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,480 seem like he has something like that. And I like the little Lord that 1000 00:58:49,519 --> 00:58:52,079 they're building around it on how like after the king died, they just put 1001 00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:54,840 down their guns and they like they're not violent anymore, like I did, 1002 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,760 like all those seeds of Lord that they're introducing, And I love that scene 1003 00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:04,000 amongst the villager girl and the robot, like and he gives there sorry, 1004 00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:07,679 she gives him the flower crown, and then to the point that he takes 1005 00:59:07,679 --> 00:59:09,800 out that soldier later on, and then yeah, just fucks off. Like 1006 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,880 I loved all those moments, and then the movie went on and we just 1007 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,960 had so much stuff going on. I completely forgot about him until the end 1008 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,960 scene and he's got these fucking antlers now, like he's he's totally moded out 1009 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,360 his gear. I was just, again, this is something in hindsight, 1010 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,559 but now it's just like I feel like it's bringing down the movie. I'm 1011 00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:30,280 like, I can't believe, like we just didn't have him on the adventure, 1012 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,039 like that would have been so much more interesting than getting fucking blood acts 1013 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,239 that just dies by the fucking turret gunner way later on. God yeah, 1014 00:59:39,719 --> 00:59:42,639 I was like, that's Ray Fisher. Oh my god, I can't wait 1015 00:59:42,679 --> 00:59:46,000 to see what he's gonna do in this movie. Like I don't know, 1016 00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:52,800 I don't know what I can say here because I go and fodcus for a 1017 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,719 guy that really went to bat for Zack Snyder. I was really thinking he 1018 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,679 was gonna have a much larger presence this film, and it felt like he 1019 01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:05,000 pretty much just had a cameo, I thought, and especially they talk about 1020 01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:07,360 the Blood Acts is the whole time they set them up, and it just 1021 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,440 reminds and it's funny because it's like a reoccurring thing. I know, people 1022 01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:14,760 defended and people said, oh if we got part two, but reminded me 1023 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,239 a lot of dark Side in Justice League, where they set him up and 1024 01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:20,239 then we get that flashback and he just gets fucking destroyed, and you're like, 1025 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,320 oh, this is dark Side. Hey, like he just got lost 1026 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,960 on his first outing here on Earth. And I get it because oh, 1027 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,079 this is young dark Side. He's gonna grow up. But this is how 1028 01:00:28,119 --> 01:00:30,519 I feel like. They're talking about Blood Acts and one he like, you 1029 01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:32,920 know, he gets kidnapped with the rest of them, and then two when 1030 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,639 he goes to fight, he died. Like the first battle were with him. 1031 01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:38,679 He dies, and like, I get that this shit was up there 1032 01:00:38,679 --> 01:00:40,920 shooting other things, but why did he have to run up there with his 1033 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,199 spear and take it out? He misses the first time he tries to stet 1034 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,639 like, it just feel like a a nothing care like now, like I 1035 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,599 don't have any height for again, it was a Knight's of Rend situation where 1036 01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:58,199 all him and his sister. They're these are the leaders of the rebellion. 1037 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,400 It's like if we met han solo and when they leave tato Wine, his 1038 01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:06,880 ship got exploded, like well thanks Han, you know, like he's just 1039 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,360 like where Grido like shoots him instead of like you know, like all of 1040 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:14,239 his bad shoot each other. They shoot each other and Hansel dies in the 1041 01:01:14,239 --> 01:01:16,840 bar. He helped them get a ship and they have Chewbacca now, but 1042 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:22,199 that's about it. And it was I because I literally were around because he 1043 01:01:22,239 --> 01:01:23,519 got shot. He got shot twice, and I'm like, well, armor, 1044 01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:28,440 he's a badass whatever. But then when his face like he like fell 1045 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,920 against the the fucking ship and his face was just like open eye and they're 1046 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,840 like, oh my god, is he actually dead here? And I like 1047 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:37,000 wound back, like yeah, he just got shots ice and yeah he's dead. 1048 01:01:37,039 --> 01:01:40,599 He's gone, blood axe leader of the Rebellion over with and again we 1049 01:01:40,679 --> 01:01:44,159 meet him. We had a quick origins. I'm back and forth with his 1050 01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:46,599 sister. They get kidnapped and hees gone. You know, it's just like 1051 01:01:46,639 --> 01:01:51,480 what how could I get that invested the character? And I guess it just 1052 01:01:51,559 --> 01:01:54,360 wasn't cool enough either for me because it's like he died like the way he 1053 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,400 died to it's just but yeah, blood Axe is that way I didn't go 1054 01:01:59,519 --> 01:02:04,320 for. I said, I could have done without the three hundred guy who's 1055 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,679 in that. Yeah, and then the now we're stuck with blood acts like 1056 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,840 right hand lady like she's just like adopted in the crew. Now it's like 1057 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:15,679 she's not interesting at all, like zero zero, like at least like have 1058 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,480 her sister that have a sister there, Well, we'll meet up with the 1059 01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:22,559 sister right in the next film and like, well again here because I feel 1060 01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:25,679 like you weren't a fan of character just by looking if I'm wrong, Charlie 1061 01:02:25,679 --> 01:02:30,400 Hannah was just like dead right, Yeah he must be. Oh yeah, 1062 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:36,000 because Gunyar or whatever his name, he right in the head. And yeah, 1063 01:02:36,039 --> 01:02:38,679 I was not a fan of Charlie Haunam's character in this movie. I 1064 01:02:38,719 --> 01:02:45,199 don't like I was excited knowing that he was in this. This is uh 1065 01:02:45,239 --> 01:02:46,360 like I've just what what else have I seen him? And he was in 1066 01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:52,159 he was in the bikers show Sons of Anarchy, seeing like one season of 1067 01:02:52,199 --> 01:02:55,199 that he's yeah, he was good in that, and like just hearing positive 1068 01:02:55,239 --> 01:03:00,000 things. But Tarlie Hanham like I was looking forward to, uh just seeing 1069 01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:02,559 his inclusion and what his character would be in this. And I feel like 1070 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,000 as soon as soon as he was on screen, it didn't seem like he 1071 01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:08,800 was playing like well he had an accent, I guess, but it just 1072 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:14,559 felt like it was Charlie Huntum, like what plucked out of Sons of Anarchy 1073 01:03:14,679 --> 01:03:17,079 and just like put in here with a different accent, like just like his 1074 01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:21,679 look wise, like he's not his actual accent. I don't know, maybe 1075 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,920 I can't remember if he's British or not. Maybe I'm wrong. I'll retract 1076 01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:27,320 or retract, I'll pull it up here. What we got, we got 1077 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,760 British actor. There you go, Okay, so he's not whatever was he 1078 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:36,320 supposed to be like Irish here, Scottish yeah, or something of the British 1079 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,639 tongue, but like he didn't have like he had enough for me to be 1080 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:45,119 interested in what was going on. And it's funny because I feel like I 1081 01:03:45,199 --> 01:03:47,639 kind of peaked on interest with him when when he was saying to uh, 1082 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,119 Cora there of like yeah, no, like let's just leave this life behind. 1083 01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:55,679 I'm gonna drop this off the all gang he just betrays everyone. I'm 1084 01:03:55,679 --> 01:04:00,639 like, man, I am so disappointed with his inclusion in here, because 1085 01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:02,960 up until that point, he doesn't fucking do anything like at all. He 1086 01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:09,000 shoots, he shoots the the he saves core life. He does save COR's 1087 01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:13,000 life. When's that in the bo's the big guy's gonna shoot her and he 1088 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,920 he had shots him, so he does like I'm assuming should at it. 1089 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:16,800 But he does save her life, so he got that going on. I've 1090 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,280 seen her dodge so many lasers up until that point. I imagine it would 1091 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,519 have just gone slow mo and she would have turned her head and shot him. 1092 01:04:21,519 --> 01:04:26,159 Anyways. But see, I was the reverse of you where I liked 1093 01:04:26,239 --> 01:04:29,960 the turn because I hated the rest of this. I like his performance, 1094 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,880 I just hated how they met him and he's a full and criminal and they're 1095 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,519 like, oh, you're gonna enjoin us, like yeah, I got nothing 1096 01:04:35,559 --> 01:04:40,880 else to do, and I was like what what? And like right before 1097 01:04:40,679 --> 01:04:43,239 they're like they're like, how are we gonna get to this planet? And 1098 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,719 he's like, my ship's at port, let's go. It's like okay, 1099 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,800 that works, and because they're like we can't pay you, and he's like, 1100 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:54,239 well whatever, I can like like earn along the way will be worth 1101 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,760 it. It's like fuck, like what like? And that that was my 1102 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,840 issue too. I like, O this drop off and the whole like, 1103 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,440 well, I'm ready to leave this lie. So that's why for me it's 1104 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:09,000 a twofer. I was happy with him being a turncoat because like, Okay, 1105 01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:12,719 all this stuff makes sense of him, like flagging off because he just 1106 01:05:12,719 --> 01:05:15,199 wants to get a bigger payout from the mother world, So like, can 1107 01:05:15,199 --> 01:05:16,039 that make sense? Why he's just like, oh, you're gonna pay me 1108 01:05:16,039 --> 01:05:18,559 because in the long run, he's gonna get a big paycheck from the bad 1109 01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:21,400 guys. So that all work for me now, though in retrospect, I 1110 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,199 was like, why didn't any one of them suspect, Like why did none 1111 01:05:25,239 --> 01:05:27,760 of them ask? Like I'm not trying to make the comparison, but we 1112 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,079 all brom up so well, and I feel like they've I feel like Snyder 1113 01:05:30,119 --> 01:05:32,519 looked this character like I'm gonna make Han solo. But what if he was 1114 01:05:32,559 --> 01:05:36,199 bad? Right, it's the reverse of Han starts batting, turns good. 1115 01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:39,519 That's what this is, and he's bad the whole time. But at least 1116 01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:44,400 Han the characters Obi Wan Luke would never go, oh, he's a dark 1117 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,840 Side or Empire spy because he's like, I want this money, I want 1118 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,239 this, so you go, okay, he wants something for Charlie haunteramany the 1119 01:05:50,239 --> 01:05:53,920 first guy just be like, well, looks like you guys need some help, 1120 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,320 and he seems like he's just like a criminal bounty hunter type of guy 1121 01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,639 or just somewhere. It's like, but but why, Like, I just 1122 01:06:00,639 --> 01:06:03,280 feel like they never gave him a strong enough reason to join the team. 1123 01:06:03,559 --> 01:06:06,400 For most people, like the slave guy, that made sense because okay, 1124 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,280 they're freeing him and he wants to make a difference. Jamon Hunts, who 1125 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,079 like, okay, he was a general. It's fault them, so that 1126 01:06:12,119 --> 01:06:15,480 makes sense. The like Jedi type samurai is like, I guess she's a 1127 01:06:15,559 --> 01:06:17,800 do gooder, but yeah, hunt On the whole time like this makes no 1128 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,000 sense. That's why the reveal kind of worked a bit better for me. 1129 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:25,519 It's not great for me, it's just purely saved on. I enjoy Charlie 1130 01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:29,119 Huntman and I think he's charismatic, but then they just fucking get rid of 1131 01:06:29,199 --> 01:06:30,679 him, and I'm like, wow, what a what a waste? You 1132 01:06:30,679 --> 01:06:34,880 know, it's just like it. I don't know, it's just not not 1133 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,639 great, but you were happy to see him go. I was happy to 1134 01:06:38,639 --> 01:06:42,480 see him go just because we didn't like even up until that point. Like 1135 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,480 I don't think there's anything that would have had me excited on like if he 1136 01:06:45,559 --> 01:06:47,639 survived, what's gonna happen next movie? Like is he gonna track them down? 1137 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,079 It's not like he's a badass bounty on her like you just like, 1138 01:06:50,119 --> 01:06:54,599 yeah, he's got a gun, But I don't think anyone would be like 1139 01:06:54,719 --> 01:06:57,559 fearful, like Core would kick his ass in a one on one as well 1140 01:06:57,599 --> 01:07:00,119 as with like the general guy, Like just feel like all of our characters 1141 01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:03,519 could just dismantle this guy. So I don't think I would have needed him 1142 01:07:03,559 --> 01:07:06,679 as being like another antagonist in the next movie. I guess I just would 1143 01:07:06,679 --> 01:07:10,880 have liked a returning bad guy because I had scared and come back and that's 1144 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,159 fine, But then we got that other bad guy, and I'm not looking 1145 01:07:13,159 --> 01:07:17,199 forward to that guy coming up like the very end boss like Corus Adopted Dad, 1146 01:07:17,239 --> 01:07:20,079 where I'm like, this is not interested, Like I'm not interested at 1147 01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:25,039 all by this like this cane yeah, and that's like a like I try 1148 01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:28,159 not to but that for me was like an acting thing of just like he 1149 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,239 just said, whoever they got doesn't have the right vibe for this. In 1150 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,599 my opinion, he had more like this squirrely like Weasley, like little Finger 1151 01:07:34,599 --> 01:07:38,480 type of seem like a number two, not the number one, you know, 1152 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,920 and he's the number one. I was like, oh damn, that's 1153 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,880 even like Ed Scarin is a better number two than him, like he would 1154 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:50,920 have been a number three. Yeah, So I didn't mind the whole I 1155 01:07:51,039 --> 01:07:56,400 like Cora's way because he he had a similar origin of kor where he's like, 1156 01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,880 I had people on my planet, they came, I fought with them, 1157 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,159 they killed everybody, and that's when I learned I'm not gonna go against 1158 01:08:04,199 --> 01:08:08,599 history. And I love the line like this whole thing here is not even 1159 01:08:08,639 --> 01:08:11,679 gonna be like a cliff note in history. So I liked the reasoning of 1160 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,079 he was the reverse Quorra, where Cora saw, hey, they're gonna kill 1161 01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:17,399 us all we have to fight Hunum's characters. They're gonna kill us all. 1162 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,119 I don't want to be with them, like I don't want to be I 1163 01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:23,319 don't want to make people that are gonna be killed. I don't want to 1164 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,119 make friends with them. Make so I liked that reasoning, but it's also 1165 01:08:27,199 --> 01:08:30,079 again, it's not great. It's not like a character I'm going to bat 1166 01:08:30,119 --> 01:08:31,760 for. It's not a performance. It's just again, I want more, 1167 01:08:32,119 --> 01:08:36,239 And I just felt like the crew doesn't like we have this seven but they 1168 01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:40,399 don't really interact that much too, because it just feels like it's always them 1169 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,720 talking to the person recruiting, and then they get recruited and then there's just 1170 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,840 like an NPC on the side for the whole time. You know. So 1171 01:08:49,159 --> 01:08:54,880 I was just gonna see something, but it's it's fleeting. How do you 1172 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:59,680 feel about the Samurai Girl Spider Boss sequence? Oh yeah, No, I 1173 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,119 didn't like it as much as I was expecting to like it, honestly, 1174 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:06,319 same. I just I don't know, like the design felt kind of not 1175 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:13,279 too uh too extremely cool. I don't like like I liked when she was 1176 01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:15,319 popping off with her little saber swords, I guess, and just like her 1177 01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:19,520 whole look aesthetic, like I don't know, again, very much reminded me 1178 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:25,800 of like an anime type character. Yeah, I realized that. Oh yeah, 1179 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,000 I feel like I don't know, maybe I have seen her in something 1180 01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:30,199 but nothing too. Yeah, I'm not sure. I was talking to this 1181 01:09:30,199 --> 01:09:31,520 about Emily. I'm not sure. Have you ever seen Cloud Atlas in your 1182 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:35,520 life? No. I love that movie, and she's like a main character 1183 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,960 in that, and I think that's only the other thing I've seen. So 1184 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,159 I just really liked that one performance. But I like, I liked her 1185 01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:43,920 here. For me, it wasn't the look of the Spider. It was 1186 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,439 just the setup was underwhelming, and she's like they bump this character and she's 1187 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,199 like in the like, oh, I'm like busy, and then they like 1188 01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:50,560 they walked to the middle of the city and the Spiral woman's just in the 1189 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,680 middle of the city. I'm like, oh, like and she's kidnapping, 1190 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:59,039 Like there's this this whole story. The way I thought the spik character was 1191 01:09:59,039 --> 01:10:00,119 me. I thought it was gonna be like a crucial thing to the plot, 1192 01:10:00,199 --> 01:10:02,479 and that I will say it's just based on my expectation, So that's 1193 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,920 not to the movie I just saw. I didn't think it was gonna be 1194 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:11,159 this mini boss that gets dispatched of quite easily. Yeah, well, like 1195 01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:15,479 I did. I didn't even really it's a render. I didn't even remember 1196 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:16,880 that she was in it, like from the trailer until we did the sucker 1197 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,920 punch and then you said, what's her face? The actresses the Spider Lady 1198 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:25,479 and Rebel move, Yeah, So I was kind of looking forward to that 1199 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,520 of just having this again. You know. I like the usages of she 1200 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,000 Lob and Lord of the Ring, so I like when we have these spider 1201 01:10:30,359 --> 01:10:35,000 like villains. And I think it peaked when they see the web and she's 1202 01:10:35,119 --> 01:10:39,640 up there like the silhouette holding the child. I think that's what peaked for 1203 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,399 me. And then and then you reveal her face and it's like, Okay, 1204 01:10:43,399 --> 01:10:45,600 I don't love this design and not really scary, and then she heard 1205 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,520 like reason's like they're poisoning my air, so my eggs aren't hatching, and 1206 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:54,880 it's I'm getting flashbacks to Auquaman too and the whole pollution storyline. So that 1207 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,479 didn't really sit too well with me. And even the fight was kind of 1208 01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,760 underwhelming, not too much if I remember correctly, but I don't know. 1209 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,359 It just didn't seem like a lot was going on too, because it's like 1210 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,680 there's a group of people around and it's just our samurai chick, just one 1211 01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,479 on one in her uh and then you know, in a fight that just 1212 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,520 wasn't too interesting to me, Like it just it just was like she gets 1213 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,640 pinned down like chop off a a, she gets pinned down, chop chop 1214 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,520 up. Like I was waiting for them, like, oh, this is 1215 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:26,319 gonna be really exciting, and it just just wasn't you know, it wasn't 1216 01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:28,520 bad. I don't think it was like all this awful action. It's just 1217 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,840 like, oh, just okay, standard standard action scene, standard action scene. 1218 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,760 Yeah, and she's just kind of is forgettable unfortunately until like the very 1219 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,479 end when they capture them, and then the's like and you the swordsman that 1220 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,880 takes out all these generals and they're and their troops because you lost your children. 1221 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,960 I was like, oh, yeah, she's there, and and like 1222 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:49,000 that's the reason why she's there. So it's I mean, it's just like 1223 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:54,039 a recurring thing with all of our air quote NPC type characters that we got 1224 01:11:54,039 --> 01:11:56,880 introduced to, Like they just don't really do too much after the introduction, 1225 01:11:57,159 --> 01:11:59,720 so uh, hopefully in the next part, like we get a lot more 1226 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,119 moment and some of them being badasses. Because I did like her look, 1227 01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:06,960 I like her hat. It was very like van Helsing sort of aesthetic another 1228 01:12:08,039 --> 01:12:10,960 character that just reminded me of like an anime character. So I did like 1229 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:14,279 the look and her sword, like when the swords changed color and everything, 1230 01:12:14,399 --> 01:12:16,720 that was fucking cool. But so like a blue version that sword a bad 1231 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,439 guy had. Yeah, yeah, that was really cool. Some force type 1232 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:25,600 thing. So that's a no. Ye, I'm surprised, but I was 1233 01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:30,439 just I was wondering because they well, actually that's a lie though, because 1234 01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,520 remember they showed that princess bring that bird back to life. Oh yeah, 1235 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,399 so it was like the most minor thing, and I guess I'm assuming that's 1236 01:12:36,399 --> 01:12:40,119 what that guy at the gine probably has to right, he might have some 1237 01:12:40,119 --> 01:12:43,159 space magic because I thought it could just be like the sword thing. But 1238 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,600 you know, so that's that's all right. I'm interested to see how because 1239 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,800 they didn't establish that all these firestor people have to have, you know, 1240 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:55,000 uh, a special power to use these swords or something like that. Right, 1241 01:12:55,079 --> 01:12:59,159 So even that scene in the end, like the way I took that 1242 01:12:59,399 --> 01:13:01,560 was buddy. He was in the back of the tank. That was hard 1243 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,119 for me to say. The bat the tank it's a tubes. And then 1244 01:13:05,279 --> 01:13:09,159 and then he's got like the tubes. He's he's looking like Neo in the 1245 01:13:09,159 --> 01:13:14,640 real world. And then I I took it like like his his memories essentially 1246 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,600 was going into this like place that's where he conversed with Buddy, or like, 1247 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,640 how did you did you take it that way too? Or he got 1248 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:27,359 like actually like his physical bodies actually on that that fucking snowy Plaine thing. 1249 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:31,880 And then I think it's just like a force call situation. Yeah, because 1250 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,439 the way you said it, it's earlier, it seemed like he was you 1251 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,760 read it as he was just fully recovered and he's standing there in his attire 1252 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,720 again. Yeah, no, but I feel like, is he not gonna 1253 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,720 be recovered when he gets at that tank? Oh he will be. I'll 1254 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,159 have a scar, but yeah, yeah, maybe like a minor one. 1255 01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:50,960 So yeah, No, I think it was just his his mental aura there 1256 01:13:51,319 --> 01:13:55,439 Where the fuck is that guy? Right? I guess he's also in another 1257 01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,439 machine pumped up to like a aura machine, and he's hiding now and he 1258 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,520 wants his daughter are found and stop the rebellion, and they literally just call 1259 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,000 him rebels, just like Star Wars, which just like I know it's called 1260 01:14:05,039 --> 01:14:09,560 Rebel Moon, but they were like there's rebels, there's rebel skin. Yeah, 1261 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,960 there's a few other just like exact quote for quote words that's like, 1262 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,159 oh, this is just Star Wars. Okay, yeah, well again like 1263 01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:20,399 even like the imperial type villains, like just straight up Nazi garb and and 1264 01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:26,279 everything. So definitely hitting that same that same note there. But uh yeah 1265 01:14:26,279 --> 01:14:29,079 it was the other character. Oh the h yeah, the Griffin writer like 1266 01:14:29,079 --> 01:14:33,239 my name I I laughed so hard by the end of that scene because like, 1267 01:14:34,399 --> 01:14:38,359 yeah, it was a cool setup of him like just working off his 1268 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:43,159 debts to this to this guy that then just basically owns him. He's he's 1269 01:14:43,319 --> 01:14:45,840 chipping away and he's he's seems like he has a lot of honor, like 1270 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,159 he doesn't want to go against his his word on what he said and he's 1271 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:54,760 sorry, it's like a arm he's like orm to fill exactly. I'm going 1272 01:14:54,760 --> 01:15:00,560 back to jail. So for Atlanta's But like, I just laugh because the 1273 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,000 whole thing was like, yeah, you gotta pay all three hundred thousand whatever 1274 01:15:03,039 --> 01:15:05,119 the money is, and it's like, no, we don't got that. 1275 01:15:05,159 --> 01:15:08,680 Well, I'm a betting man, so if he can break that Griffin, 1276 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,840 and in my mind, I'm like why the fuck does this party even have 1277 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,319 to be here for this event to happen, Like, I feel like at 1278 01:15:14,319 --> 01:15:15,960 any point, Blacksmith guy could have been like, you know, I'm gonna 1279 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,159 make you a deal. I could break that gryffin for you, and if 1280 01:15:19,199 --> 01:15:21,479 I don't, I'm just gonna have a life debt with you, like I 1281 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:25,800 will never because he's paying off his debt right Like, Like it's not like 1282 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:30,319 it is a finite time for when he'll be a free man. Like I 1283 01:15:30,359 --> 01:15:32,399 just feel like he could have said that exact same thing because he just did 1284 01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,399 it so easily, Like it's like he's been like training for this moment his 1285 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:42,119 entire life. Just breaks this griffin like instantly goes on this adventurous little like 1286 01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:45,760 Harry Potter type moment and then we get that slow mo shot of him get 1287 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,640 launched off of it. But then he goes and runs and then he's like 1288 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,920 in front of the sun. It's super slow mo, and then he lands 1289 01:15:51,279 --> 01:15:54,720 very bondie moment, comes back, just gives it to the guy, and 1290 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,600 then of course it kills him. Yeah, I was really hoping that that 1291 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,640 was gonna show up like later on like a cool amount part two, right, 1292 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:06,560 he's gonna go Yeah, I hope so I must be Yeah, I 1293 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:11,279 I think that. For me, I just didn't I get it because these 1294 01:16:11,319 --> 01:16:15,399 happened a lot in these type of movies, Like Qui gon Jin does he 1295 01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,840 does that because what what what is the bet? He he bets that of 1296 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,880 Anakin and Wincy AND's like free one of them and then if he loses, 1297 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:27,359 it's his whole ship. Right, But for me, it's like risky bet, 1298 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,840 but still like, okay, it's a ship. Like worst case scenario, 1299 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,159 you could probably try and find a way to get off that planet something 1300 01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,800 where you just not keep your word. And maybe that's what the case is 1301 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:39,000 here. But the fact that these three characters, like especially Korra and the 1302 01:16:39,039 --> 01:16:42,079 other guy, this village is about to get killed. They got to get 1303 01:16:42,079 --> 01:16:44,720 back there. So the fact that oh, if we lose his bet, 1304 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,159 we will just become slaves to you guys, like I don't buy this. 1305 01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:49,000 I bet I'm not doing that deal. Like you never even met this guy 1306 01:16:49,039 --> 01:16:51,560 before, Like they don't know that he's a Griffin rider. It's just like 1307 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:56,960 can you do that? He just fell. I was like, oh, 1308 01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,760 you're a slave. Like I just didn't like that to me was just too 1309 01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,640 bad of a stretch. Like if you loses, bet what, you're just 1310 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,760 gonna let all these men, women, children just get fucking destroyed and ravaged 1311 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:10,000 by the mother world. It's like, no, right, I'm like, 1312 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,560 like, you guys are careless people. Who wasn't I wish it was something 1313 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,720 something else, even if it was one of them one, like I'll take 1314 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,439 one of you then that's fine. Yeah, or even the coward guy like 1315 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:23,920 maybemight be part of his redemption right, like he volunteers because he got two 1316 01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:26,600 of his friends killed, like and I'll stay like if I like, but 1317 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,880 like all three of you are gonna be slaves if he loses, Like he 1318 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,520 said, this guy you've never met who could just be a fucking imbecile, 1319 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,720 Like it was too much of a stretcher. It was an eye roll. 1320 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:38,279 It's much like when joined the team of like I don't know, whatever Manny 1321 01:17:38,359 --> 01:17:40,239 make all the way it'll be worth It's like, okay, this is just 1322 01:17:40,279 --> 01:17:43,279 too easy, you know, Like I said the general that Jim and I 1323 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,199 agree with because like he just wants revenge, right, Samurai lady I agree 1324 01:17:46,199 --> 01:17:50,239 with because she just feels like she's just like a vigilante warrior that wants to 1325 01:17:50,319 --> 01:17:54,920 do good out there. The blood acts people I buy because they're rebellion, 1326 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,640 but hunt them and I guess like the slave guy, Yeah, sure he'll 1327 01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,720 break out and help you. But I just didn't like the setup of it. 1328 01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,520 So yeah, I was getting like from uh Terek, I think that 1329 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:08,560 was his name. I was getting major, Yeah, yeah, the the 1330 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,359 dude with no shirt, uh, the Griffin breaker. I was getting major 1331 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,520 like Zank Vibes, which is the character from Dungeons Dragons. I can never 1332 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:20,000 say his name, the guy from Bridgerton something, Jean Page, yeah, 1333 01:18:20,079 --> 01:18:25,479 John whatever. Yeah. I was just like, you just seemed like very 1334 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,960 like like I don't know, he's very chiseled, man, he looks great 1335 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,840 without a shirt. And then he just he's he's just badass, you know. 1336 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,600 He's he's pounding away at that fucking at the blacksmith Anville and then he's 1337 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:38,000 like, I can tame it. He goes up to it very majestically. 1338 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,000 He just tames it and like he's just like this perfect specimen essentially, which 1339 01:18:42,039 --> 01:18:46,279 is like basically what Zank's character is from Dragons. You're gonna show that I'm 1340 01:18:46,279 --> 01:18:49,079 better on your bed that whole whatever that fucking speech was. I was like, 1341 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,439 I just wish the bird turn around just fucking slips throat and they're just 1342 01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:58,560 like they're like watching we're slaves now. But uh yeah, that's that's who 1343 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,720 I was thinking of. So I was kind of chuck cleaning that moment. 1344 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,920 And also just the ridiculousness of like, I can't believe they just made this 1345 01:19:03,039 --> 01:19:06,880 deal with him and he just did it so easily, and why like why 1346 01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,920 wouldn't he just make that deal in the first place, of like even without 1347 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,079 this crew coming to do that? But I don't know, maybe he didn't 1348 01:19:14,119 --> 01:19:16,960 know he had the option. Yeah, and who's the other one we didn't 1349 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,640 talk about yet? I guess we mentioned the general. He doesn't really do 1350 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:25,159 too much, not much. He's a jack dude that wants to fight the 1351 01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,720 mother world. And I think we're gonna learn more about him in part two 1352 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,640 because just like there was flashbacks of him being younger with hair like a different 1353 01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,279 Hairstyle's like, okay, we're gonna ask full origin. But like they set 1354 01:19:34,359 --> 01:19:39,520 up and I did like that they were the big Boss was like you got 1355 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,880 to cut that off, Like they can't have him on the team, Like 1356 01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,000 they mentioned him as being a threat, like they call him very tactical, 1357 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,880 and I was like, okay, that's cool right away, even within a 1358 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,079 couple of senses, it's like we didn't get to see him too much. 1359 01:19:49,079 --> 01:19:50,640 We see him fight, of course, but like that's like, no, 1360 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,640 he is a good leader. And even in the preview they're showing him like 1361 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,119 doing this war speech and stuff. So I hope they show that also in 1362 01:19:58,119 --> 01:20:00,199 the movie, not just tell us like he's very agous, but if it's 1363 01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:02,239 just him doing a bunch of cool shit, it's like, well, no, 1364 01:20:02,399 --> 01:20:04,279 Like I want him to be a guy that comes up with a great 1365 01:20:04,319 --> 01:20:06,560 plan or a part of the great plan. We go, oh yeah, 1366 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,399 this guy was a general. Like I know Core is the main character, 1367 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:14,119 but it doesn't matter, Like I don't want her to be fully like yeah, 1368 01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:15,840 we're gonna do this, this and this. It's like, no, 1369 01:20:15,159 --> 01:20:18,640 the guy who's the tactical general, he should probably throw his two cents in, 1370 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,920 right, but uh so, hopefully we'll see I have some faith there. 1371 01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,159 And Jamond Hunts he's always good. He always did good line deliveries. 1372 01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,000 Like he's he does play similar characters, but like the good thing is he's 1373 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,640 always just they're always good, Like he never stands like you just know, 1374 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,119 like he'd be like a wide receiver where maybe he's not gonna get every touchdown, 1375 01:20:35,159 --> 01:20:38,920 but you know he can make some plays that shaman hunts you where maybe 1376 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,039 he's never gonna be the best part of the movie, but you know he's 1377 01:20:41,039 --> 01:20:43,600 not ever gonna be bad. You're never gonna hire and be like, oh, 1378 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,680 this guy's gonna stink up the joint. He'll always show up and deliver. 1379 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,760 Like I take him a GV movie. I would take him on a 1380 01:20:50,039 --> 01:20:56,479 r you know, fucking hell yeah, I'd get my character justnes beating up 1381 01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:03,319 by Kirklan versus. I'll just pull as you're talking, I was pulling up 1382 01:21:03,359 --> 01:21:06,199 his h his little IMDb here he was in Grand Tarrisma. I'm sure he 1383 01:21:06,199 --> 01:21:11,520 plays a different character something. He's like a race car guy. Yeah, 1384 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,279 Like I think he's like one of the guys on the sidelines. So yeah, 1385 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,279 anything else. So you haven't mentioned anything specific character scenes. I think 1386 01:21:18,319 --> 01:21:21,119 I've hit it all for my most part, And like I guess we're going 1387 01:21:21,159 --> 01:21:25,880 to talk about like we danced around it. They just set up that. 1388 01:21:26,199 --> 01:21:28,960 It was, like I said, the Gomora thing her dad was a fanos 1389 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,199 type character adopts her. She goes, I don't know why adopted me. 1390 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,600 She breaks apart because she realizes the era of the ways of mother World, 1391 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,439 and then the guy's obsessed with getting his daughter back. But like I said, 1392 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:42,039 I just felt that actor had really no hoosbet or the way he was 1393 01:21:42,079 --> 01:21:45,199 directed because he was younger in the flashback, so when he was turned to 1394 01:21:45,319 --> 01:21:47,880 us, Oh we're gonna get the older version. Who was this actor? 1395 01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,640 I'm like, is Jefferdine Morgan's Patrick Wilson, Like I'm just trying to think 1396 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,680 of, like who Zack Snyer worked with, right, like Jefferdine Morgan, 1397 01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,720 Patrick Wilson, Like I'm trying to think what Zack Snyder's staple could this be? 1398 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:01,840 And it was just that guy that was already like he felt like the 1399 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,079 guy you hired just for flashbacks. But it's like, oh, no, 1400 01:22:04,079 --> 01:22:06,479 he's the main guy. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe we'll watch part two be 1401 01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,760 like, oh, this guy is really good and we just didn't see it 1402 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,439 just was not a hype. It didn't get me hyped. But Beard, 1403 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,880 they felt like the Beard and like the big black Cloak was gonna do something, 1404 01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,880 and it definitely did not. Yeah, even the flashback, like I 1405 01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:26,079 don't know, he just seemed like a soldier, not like the main general 1406 01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:30,239 guy that's supposed to be this tyrant right that's just making planets of people run 1407 01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:33,239 in fear. Like he really didn't stand out at all. And even the 1408 01:22:33,279 --> 01:22:36,680 scene of him like approaching the younger version of Kora and like holding the gun, 1409 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,479 it just it really wasn't doing anything for me, Like I didn't feel 1410 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:45,119 threatened or like intimidated by any means, whereas like Jeffrey Dean Morgan as a 1411 01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:48,119 villain, like fuck you feel that just like sitting on my couch, eat 1412 01:22:48,159 --> 01:22:51,479 my popcorn and I feel like I tremble in my boots. But by no 1413 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:56,720 means was I getting that from a from Laddie Laddie here, don't even know 1414 01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,560 his name, but like you said, hopefully he really impresses in part two. 1415 01:23:00,119 --> 01:23:03,119 Yeah, yeah, I think that's all I got. I got nothing 1416 01:23:03,159 --> 01:23:06,520 else, Yeah, got nothing else. Curriculum, What would you uh write 1417 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:17,439 this movie? There's a tricky one. Uh hmm. It might be harsh, 1418 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:23,960 but like thinking about just am I gonna be remembering like specifically this movie, 1419 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,119 I know I'm gonna be watching part two in a few months here, 1420 01:23:26,119 --> 01:23:28,000 but like a year from now, you know, Like, am I really 1421 01:23:28,039 --> 01:23:31,479 gonna be thinking about all these scenes and characters from this movie? I don't 1422 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:35,399 really think so. And enjoyment wise, there is some stuff in here that 1423 01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,119 I did enjoy, but a lot of it again, like I just really 1424 01:23:39,159 --> 01:23:42,760 didn't like the whole pattern of just jumping from one character to the other and 1425 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,800 then kind of forgetting about the other character. I didn't like some of those 1426 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,720 just I don't know, just certain certain choices here and there. But I 1427 01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:53,960 do like the scale that they're going for in this movie. I'm gonna go 1428 01:23:54,000 --> 01:24:00,920 a six point two five maybe right now. I didn't want to go six 1429 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,279 and a half because I spoiled it. That's why I gave Aukaman two and 1430 01:24:03,319 --> 01:24:09,319 I definitely had a more fun time watching that movie. But it just seems 1431 01:24:09,359 --> 01:24:11,760 a little too harsh for me to drop it at a six right now. 1432 01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:15,159 But who knows, maybe you'll maybe you'll one up me or one one down 1433 01:24:15,239 --> 01:24:20,159 me. You're muted by the way you have to do that. Yeah, 1434 01:24:20,199 --> 01:24:24,439 I'm just a little above yet the at the six point five, it's almost 1435 01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,479 the same method though, where I gave Acamann a seven and yeah there five, 1436 01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:32,039 I still like they're pretty equivalent because I think some of the shortcomings of 1437 01:24:32,119 --> 01:24:36,159 this heard it. But then I also think that there's just some stuff that's 1438 01:24:36,199 --> 01:24:41,479 just like it's just like straight bad, Like I other than a husband moment, 1439 01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,600 there wasn't anything in here like I laughed out loud because all this is 1440 01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,600 really cheesy, over the top, where Acaman I definitely had that happen, 1441 01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,640 right, So yeah, but yeah, no, it's six point five. 1442 01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,720 I think at one point it's like a seven. But I always say I 1443 01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:57,880 give sevens to movies that are like, I'm gonna go back and even if 1444 01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,479 it's not the greatest, there's something about that I know I will we watch 1445 01:25:00,399 --> 01:25:04,720 case and point. I always use it as example Brendan Fraser and Elizabeth Hurley's 1446 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:08,760 Be Dazzled. I don't think it's the greatest movie. I don't think it's 1447 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,680 the greatest comedy, but I probably watch it at least once every couple of 1448 01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,600 years. It's like, you know what, I just really enjoy that. 1449 01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,479 And that's where for me seven's are maybe critically or overall, there's it doesn't 1450 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,079 meet all the matches, but there's something, there's some genesti qual that I 1451 01:25:21,119 --> 01:25:23,960 want to come back to, even if it's like a performance, right, 1452 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,560 even there's just like one role where it's like, oh, the movie's all 1453 01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:30,359 right, but I want to watch this actor play this role. I don't 1454 01:25:30,399 --> 01:25:33,479 have that here. So that's where, you know, and maybe it'll retroactively 1455 01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,600 go higher when I see part two, you know, and sometimes that can't 1456 01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:42,039 help. But uh yeah, not A six point five is where I am 1457 01:25:42,079 --> 01:25:44,159 at. I don't think it's as bad as people say, but I don't 1458 01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:46,439 think it's a great first step in the universe. But again, it's just 1459 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:51,119 like a movie that's out there, so be a part Yeah, No, 1460 01:25:51,119 --> 01:25:56,159 I would again, I've I've seen so many, so many worst movies oh 1461 01:25:56,359 --> 01:25:59,640 this year, in my opinion, you know, I'd rather watch this. 1462 01:26:00,239 --> 01:26:02,640 Uh yeah, let us know Discord, YouTube, Twitter, all good jazz, 1463 01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,520 what you thought about it. We'll be here for sure for Part two 1464 01:26:06,079 --> 01:26:10,000 director's cut. We'll see when that drops and we'll talk. I'll talk to 1465 01:26:10,039 --> 01:26:12,880 Kirkland and see where his mind frames at. And uh, we'll talk to 1466 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,319 Taylor because Taylor, you know, he's like, oh, I'm not gonna 1467 01:26:15,319 --> 01:26:16,600 watch it because they said it was better than Star Wars and fuck that. 1468 01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,560 But then he's still watching, you know, so whatever. But yeah, 1469 01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,800 well we'll see, but at least Part two will for sure be there. 1470 01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:25,800 Son, till then I'll not be born. Bye bye