Oh, hell, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Yeah, i'll call
that. I think it's official episode. Welcome to the five hundred and ninety
first episode of the Geek. For his podcast, I'm the Eggnog cut Tress.
Now I'm joined by I'm Griffin Ryder Cirkle bats Or like. I can
fully admit it's not the best name, but I've just decided that I'm just
trying to work an Eggnog as much as I can in the December for Snyder.
Come on, there might be a Snyder Rebelue cut once all the parts
are out right, like the ten hour editions, Well there are movie,
yeah, because you know there is already two cuts that are coming out after
the original cuts, right, I was joking around, but no, so
you have Oh you didn't know this. I did not know about this,
So we have probably one. Yeah. Yeah, he probably forgot about it.
You know, you just cycled on the mind a couple of exams this
week. It's been it's been a brain fluff week. Yeah. Also,
when you start your overallso got a few of my dogs, she's look at
me. I completely forgot about that. Just staring at you kind of start
more just annoyed. But yeah, no three hour casts. He's never gonna
fit, you know, as I guess no, because there's this cut and
then there's gonna be the three hour plus cut that's righted are just for part
one, just for part one, and then there's part two, and then
there's a part two cut as well, so which may or may not get
your sting some cons people have with this movie. I don't know. We'll
see, but yeah, here we are about to review Rebel Moon. You
can go back. We review not every Zach Snurner movie, but every Zach
Snyner movie that's not three hundred or Guardians of the Als of Ghoul or whatever
the hell it's called. Of the title. We will one day because we're
definitely in Rebel Moon part like, we're gonna well, we'll see, we'll
we'll talk about when director's cut comes out, because tas on that, so
may we'll rope for that. We'll we'll we'll see what happens there, depending
on this. Maybe both hat him right, like we're down with rel Moon.
Who knows, but yeah, you go on the feeds Awkwarman review Game
the Year Editions A good newscast, lots of stuff up there. Well,
there'll be some content dropping next week, but the excellent retrospective. But there's
lots on the feeds right now, so enjoy that over the holiday seasons.
We hope you have a good holiday and Christmas and whatever, univisious time off.
You know, it's a good thing. And yeah, everything you know,
it's down below the patrons thinking of patron producers. April Raiden, Nope,
Air Rain, April Darkness, Josha Wright, Jack Rant, MUDs.
You know it'd be great. You know, I gotta talk to Aaron because
I haven't. I can't asked me. It is a discord because the fact
we haven't heard from him in a bit. You know, we did that
watch a long Yeah, he's a busy guy, but on Letterbox he's watching
movies. So and that's my plug for go check on the discord where it's
literally a civil war between the Discord of Saltburs, literally just Taylor and Clay.
But it was a great back and forth where Taylor dropped the two star
and then April came with the five star and the loved every second on it.
So it's good. Kirk will be Wayne in soon. But yeah,
Golden Gee we got We're gonna have three Golden Geeks coming up, MCU,
A, DCU, Goodbye, and the regular So lots of stuff coming up.
I hadn't even did you watch the I imagine you did he watch the
what If? Episode? Today? No? I didn't watch it. Yeah,
know me either, So I'll probably watch a couple. Yeah. So,
but we're here to review Rebel Moon. So if it's your first time
with us, we do a non spoils portion, So if you're something that's
maybe waiting for the director's cut, if you're gonna wait for all parts,
whatever it may be, we will go probably about fifteen twin MIT's just giving
our overall recommendations, a general vibe, and then we'll take a little break
and you will get the spoilers edition and stuff. So, uh yeah,
what are you talking to too? Yeah, yeah, pretty much. I'm
I'm awesome to you, you know. So it's been a while since we've
done just a two man review with the two of us, Like we've done
quite a few of them in the past. Slenderman, Triple Frontier, everything
everywhere, everything everywhere, all at once, that's right. So even Euphoria,
that was a that was a big review that we did just that we
that a ten season review, like don't happen often, it's just every like
every like, I don't know, once in a blue moon, it's just
these events happen. But yeah, here we are for Rebel Moon Part one,
Child of Fire. I I will say, I feel like my hype
level like has been fluctuating. You got your one Scooper there. Uh,
my hype level has been fluctuating leading up to the release of this film.
I feel like just the idea of what it was had me kind of percolating
for that idea, and then and then and then you know, time went
on kind of forgot about a little bit until we got that trailer for it,
and then I was just super super hyped. I really really liked that
trailer that the release for Rebel Moon. It's just the scale and the world
that they're building it. I don't know, it was just it was just
pumping on all gears for me. I was really really looking forward to it.
And then, uh, I mean we had we had Au Command two
this week too, so it's just like a lot of content. Plus like
it's been my last week before obviously the winter breaks. I feel like it's
just been in like the back of my mind. But then and then heading
into it, I was, I don't know, I was really really hyped
as well as uh as well as even just seeing like some of the early
reviews, some of them runt scores, I don't know what it was.
It just got to be even more excited because, especially knowing that we're doing
the reviews for it, whether it's reviewing poorly or highly, I feel like
it's always gonna be a fun time with review because if it's either like on
one side of the spectrum or the other, I feel like it's at least
gonna be entertaining to talk about. And yeah, I think this movie is
definitely fitting that just that criteria there. I did enjoy quite a few aspects
of what this movie introduced, and I definitely did not like quite a few
movies, or sorry, quite a few aspects of this movie introduced. I
feel like one of my one of my mini cons maybe of this movie is
just the it just seems very messy at parts. I really really appreciate the
scale that they were going for, I think across the board, the world
building and just things that they're introducing. I was all for it. I
really really liked a lot of just the maybe the politics of what's going on.
We don't dive fully into just how this whole world works, but I
was definitely getting, like, you know, maybe a little sliver of of
like how the opening of Dune kind of happens, like they kind of fill
you in a little bit on like just what's going on, who's running what,
who are the big the big bad sort of of the world, and
that's kind of how this movie starts as well. So I definitely saw some
similarities there, and I don't know, I think it had a pretty impressive
opening, but where it was losing me was just like the adventure along the
way, which of course is like most of this movie, but I still
think there was there's some good moments, for sure. This had a lot
of the classic Zach Snyder SloMo stuff in it, and I think it it
went a little bit too much on the on the dial there. I'm this
is the worst offender of it easy. I think I knew it was coming
as well, and like it happens pretty early on the movie and it's like
okay, yeah, here we are, but then it just kept happening and
I don't even know why. I was like surprised at that point, but
it, yeah, it just kept happening. I'm like, oh, yeah,
here we are. He's just slow mo and this specific scene I don't
think it needs to happen. There's like a scene that it's probably about hour
in and it's not a big spoil, but we meet Charli Hunham's character and
has a fight that breaks out and there's a guy that like he gets tossed
and he falls on like the bar floor. But it's just like a shot
of like his midsection and his crosh landing on the ground in slow motion.
I'm just like, why is this in slowmosh? I get it. On's
the nice pretty shots. There's some landscape stuff like I'm not the person.
I goes like, oh, we shouldn't be using slow mo. It's like
no, he likes set style whatever, and it don't work. But this
was really just like a guy's taint, like in someone just falling and it's
like like why right now, Like there's just this one. It felt like
there was a few really odd choices, you know, yes, one hundred
percent, there's many scenes when it felt like maybe Snyder and crew are just
like, this is gonna have such a crazy reaction when people see this specific
shot like in slow mo, and then it happens. It's just like it
does not come across that way. It's just like we're extending this moment when
it doesn't really have to be extended. Uh. But I don't know.
There there's definitely some moments that I think it does boost those action scenes,
but unfortunately for this one, it felt like it was it was the more
minority, the more minority of the choices there where was I oh, yeah,
like the world building stuff. I I liked the aliens that we came
across. It definitely had the certain Star Wars isms. I guess that I
bring that up just because I guess this is kind of seen as you know,
Snyder's Star Wars. It's an inspiration of that seven Sam Rai Magnificent seven.
It has a lot of those. Is a lot of Seven's in there,
Yes everything, not David Fincher seven with the Zero Killer movie, not
that one. What's in the box. So I really like just some of
those things that were introduced, whether it's like the imperial type characters, the
yeah, like I said, the aliens, we had some CANTEENA type scenes.
I guess it was the SloMo one that you already brought up, and
just I don't know, like the little spark of rebellion I did like maybe
on paper of what was there, but like once we actually got onto the
adventure, I found a lot of or minister rephrase. I found myself quite
a few times throughout the film just kind of getting bored and also just expecting
what was gonna happen, and then that's exactly what happened. It's not really
spoilery, but there's there's a lot of like recruiting in this and it seems
very very simple and like we're just bouncing from one character to the next,
and it's like there's no real like it almost seems like you're watching a show
like almost I'm gonna make like an anime comparison. I feel like there's a
lot of times in an anime when a character will get introduced to like another
side character, and that whole episode is just like their backstory and then from
that point on they're a part of the crew. And it felt like this
movie had that for each of our characters. But they but it's not an
anime, it's not like they have one episode to just spend on that one
character. So it just seems so quick and really easy actually when they're just
like recruiting everyone and it's just like, yeah, we're going here to get
this person. Okay, that works, and we're going here to get this
person and there's no real, like major conflict. It seems to like get
them on the team. So that was kind of bugging me. And another
thing that really stood out to me, which is I feel like it doesn't
really stand out to me unless it's really really good. In this case,
it really really wasn't. But the score. Man, I don't know how
you felt, but I feel like this movie had no fucking score. I
was halfway through this that I liked, did okay? I actually enjoyed it
because I thought there's a good balance of the in different plants. We had
different rhythms going on, Like the original farm Planet was like a nice like
melody, some guitar and then lay against some rock and roll music that that
I did enjoy. I liked the score, so I was there, Yeah,
that's where we deviate a little bit, because yeah, I got like
halfway through and there's an action scene going on, and it like hit me
that I could actually hear some music. I'm like, wait a minute,
like I feel like I haven't heard anything. And again like making like a
stark comparison amongst like Dune, you know, and Hans Zimmer's score and how
every track in there, every track feels like an alien sound, whereas this
is just I don't know when you really at least for me, Yeah,
I didn't really hear it too often. Had I had sound creep too,
but uh so that that felt very very flat, like a flat soda,
unfortunately for me. But I mean you saw it differently, so that's good.
But yeah, I don't know. I think by the end of this
movie, it didn't have me like frothing at the mouth for part two.
By any means, I'm definitely kind of interested in just seeing the wider scale
of what's going on, because I mean, it is a cliffhanger sort of
like we are going into the next part. But it definitely didn't have me
let me let me see that again. Maybe the hype level that I was
at entering this film, I'm pretty much there or like lower heading into part
two, which is kind of unfortunate. Because I didn't have a lot of
hype heading into this, yeah, leading up to it, but I don't
know. I'll just say my thoughts before I go to spoilery and just pass.
If you weren't, I got two questions for you, if you weren't
hosting a podcast. Do you think you would still partake in part two?
I think on your calendar, but I think again. So, there was
a lot of moments while I was watching this film like that, did you
ever see Alita Battle Angel? No? But I could see just even from
trailers. Yeah, this movie reminded me of that a lot. And I
like that movie like enough, and it ends with like a big spoiler of
like you have they're hinting like Edward Norton's gonna be like the villain of the
next movie, and we never got that. See Gordon's in that movie like
the very end, like like he's shown as like as yeah, he's shown
as this villain. He's like a crazy alien design as well, and I'm
like, holy shit, you know, like the movie was it was like
higher than a seven at least, like I thought it was good enough,
but I was at least excited for that next installment. Never happened, so
uh that, Like, just thinking of that comparison, I think I would
still be down for part two. Yeah, after watching that, it does
make it very easy that this is a Netflix release. Like if this was
a theater release and you asked me the same question, I don't think so,
because I don't think I would have gone out to theaters, especially like
this time of the year, right, we're so close to Christmas. I
feel like I'm not really going out alone to see this one because like Shane
wanted to watch this movie with me for sure, but it was it was
probably because it was the Netflix release. You know, we were both home,
so it made it access watch Reil Move and not Sulburn. Come on,
now, come, I'm gonna try and work on that with her all.
Probably just show her Sultburn, but tell her it's Rebel Moon. Just
tell it's like it gets this face part eventually, you know. But yeah,
that's great. Now I just saw Edward Norton. That's cool. I
never heard about that. That still shows me how many people have not seen
that movie. Thought by now I would have heard someone talk about or be
on my timeline, but never until this very moment, Like wow, he
was in that movie. But here even is Alita Battle Angel twenty nineteen,
Okay, not as old as I thought twenty eighteen. Yeah, I thought
it was old. I thought was like twenty seventeen. Twenty nineteen were about
four years removed. Yeah, geez, so at Scrine too. He was
in Alita Battle Angel and he was the noble that's funny, Yeah he was
and that Yeah I forgot. Yeah. I think maybe it'll be like a
few differences. I'm sure when we tell to me, like, oh this
scene work for me, this didn't kind of like the score. But unfortunately,
I think I can't bring like a different I can't bring a Devil's Advocate
opinion to Kirkland. And I also can't bring like a hot take. I
can't bring a take being like everyone's wrong this is Snyder's best work or I
came like this is the worst, Like I, you know, it's all
subjective, as our friend Ray says and everything. I for me, it's
like and I get it from some people, you know, we always have
fun with them, but like Clay Patroon, Clay, he gave this like
a one, like a point five out of five on letter box, and
for me, where that's where I also go like, I don't know,
maybe it's because we watched so many movies, And that's where I'm excited for
next after nine to hopefully talk about like twenty twenty three, Like in retrospective
we talk about movies we saw in December stuff, cause like I just feel
like it's not anything worse than a lot of other stuff we've seen this year.
Like I feel like there's been so many not even just even just this
week. As far as Snyder' stuff we've talked about, like and to Klay's
credit, he's not seen Sucker Bunch. But to me, it's like when
people all this is Snier's worst movie, it's like not by a long shot
in my opinion, Like I any day I would take this over Soucker Bunch,
even though I agree with the other's times where it's a little slow and
boring. But it's odd because like I don't think this is a great movie.
I don't know if it's like a good movie. But I didn't like
dislike it. I didn't hate it. I was liking. I definitely think
the first half is better than the second half. Also, it's in three
parts, but I think the opening first act. I was really into I
think there's Yeah. Unfortunately, much like people talk about of like oh,
there's this bigger cut, there is a lot of characters and names just throwing
it at your real quick. You're like, oh, I'd like to learn
more about this connection. I like to learn about this, and you really
don't. You move along fast. But what I'm gonna say is like my
review is just based off because I see a lot of people that are you
know, I'm not gonna call him up by name, but you know,
I have friends and stuff that like are big Snio fans and stuff. I'm
also not gonna do the whole like, oh yeah, it's not fleshed out,
but I'm sure that will be in the director's cud. No, Like
I'm reviewing this film the same thing with even Part two. This in a
sense like because I was on the Crossover last week and a family, he
is an issue with Spider Verse, and I get why he does, but
I don't. There's always movies that we had that debate. People have this
to be a couple years ago Dune, right, like is it a half
movie? Is this movie like is it a complete movie or is it so
much like a part one where you can't watch it alone. I do feel
like this movie is that I don't hate that as much as other people,
because we know there's a part two coming, Like it's literally filmed. We
know it's gonna be happening in April, so it's not like, oh my
god. But it is a film where even like Lord of the Rings,
where both Fellowship and Two Towers Sarn's still out there, they're separated, the
Ring is not destroyed, but they feel like full, complete meals and movies
where I feel satisfied. Where this was. This feels like an act one
and a half of a movie and then it ends. You know, it
feels like you made the anime comparison. I'm making the comparison to like a
Bethesda game. I've only played fall in Starfield, but that you wake up,
you meet your main character, and then like the first three hours iss
you meet different companions and like recruiting them and then like, hey, go
in your mission. Like that's what this movie is. And unfortunately there's here's
saying. I don't think it's bad, but I feel like already I watched
it last night and I'm slowly starting to forget about it, and that's what
I think. It's the worst thing that I said this with Army the Dead,
and I really am curious about part two and whatever he does next.
Is I've always said this about Snyder, where whether you love it, hate
it, or indifferent, he I think would always make a movie at least
would stand out and cause debate. And I think there's always a debate with
him because some people love Zach and some people don't. But I just feel
like for me, like and even The Day I like, but between Army
and the Dead and this, I just feel like these are just very kind
of just forgettable type of movies. It's not like what to me, Zack
Snyder, Watchman three hundred, even Sucker Punched. To me, he's like
not a forgettable movie. Like we all failed that movie, but we all
said, like, man, they're going him and the team were going for
something here, like it didn't work, but like it's memorable for what they
tried. It just to me didn't work out. Where this is just I've
seen this movie before, Bunch, and there's nothing too special about That's why
I can't also get on board people saying, oh, it's one of the
worst movies. Ever, it's like, no, there's movies that do this
the same and it's much worse. I just think it's very just kind of
middling. It's very in the road, and that's are I'm not talking about
other parts or cuts. Maybe I'll see that three are comy. Man,
this was fantastic, but then that's on Netflix, and I know they're trying
to do this whole, like to retroactively, like start a Snyder cut thing
again, but it's not gonna work that way. And for what I'm curious,
I was gonna ask you about this too. It's like I just feel
like general audience people are gonna watch this and now be kind of disconnected.
Like I that's where I don't think it's terrible or bad, but I don't
think it's good enough that's gonna make people to come back because I don't think
many of the characters are memorable. I don't think there's any scenes that are
like Golden Geek's Best nominee. Like we've had tons of movies that we didn't
nominate for Best Picture, but we're like, oh, but with that scene
really good. I don't have that. I don't have like and performances are
fine, but not like there's nothing like a really big standout one, Like
how like Alien Covenant. We did not like that movie, but Michael fassmaner
got a Best supporting now because like, oh he was great as David.
You know, like there's certain things where it's just like it just is kind
of middling. And that's why I'm worried with uh Snyder is like I just
wonder if, like I don't know, it just feels like something is different
between this and Army of the Dead. It doesn't feel like the old Zack
Snyder or even if I disliked a film and it's like, oh that was
a like good on them for trying this. You know, these just feel
like things I've seen for an Army that's not I've seen before that just to
me was kind of lackluster. So yeah, I just uh, I'm just
I don't know. I don't know where I am on this movie because I
was liking it as watching it, but then as it went on, I
was like it less and then the next day we're said, I was like,
Okay, yeah, I I I really don't know on this one.
It's it's a tough one for me here, but I guess I can just
say it's not great as it's not like one of my favorites, and it's
like not like a top twenty five thirty of this year, Like it's not
it's not the the event I was hoping it was gonna be. Yeah,
you know, especially for what he was promising right, like it was introducing
a whole new not even world, like a whole galaxy. Was like these
their own politics and just all these different moving pieces. It seemed like this
was gonna be that big event, especially at the end of the year.
It was. It was exciting, but I think it's pretty tragic actually for
like what they what we were supposed to be getting. And then yeah,
like fast forward, well in a few months we'll be watching part two.
But I feel like if you weren't getting that part two, this would very
much fall to the same ELITEA Battle Angel criteria, you know that, Like
I've seen that movie, but I have not revisited that movie, and I
don't remember many of the scenes in that movie. I don't really remember the
villains. I'm pretty sure the same villain that was in this movie was in
that one. And because yeah, you're talking about Golden geeks and like even
the villain, Like I think he's okay as his role, but I still
wanted like a bigger bad, you know, and and the bigger bad that
we have, I'm not digging it at all. No, because they're supposed
to be like this, like we'll get into Flint spoilers, but they make
it like this big build up and I was like, Oh, who's this
actor gonna be. I'm very curious. It's like what we're gonna turn around
and it's like, oh no, it's just this guy that they showed earlier.
And I'm like, I'm not enjoying this. And I agree with you,
Like I like Ed Scaring, like I think he does like a good
job with what they give him. He's not in it too much. He's
playing like a very generic Nazi christof Wolds type of bad guy, but like,
I think he's doing that well enough. And I do actually like Sophia,
buttell like I guess to get some like overal Pauses, Like I like
her a lot. She's never been in a leading role, and I think
she's good here. I think some of this it's stuff for I think she's
good, But I think the back half of the film, she kind of
disappears because it's just them recruiting a bunch of people. You know. I
like the first act a lot in her setup, and I want to see
more of that. Maybe there's more in the next part, but with this,
I just felt she kind of goes in the past. It sucks because
it's only in there a little bit, but he's all over the posters and
the trailers. But I really really was enjoying the Jimmy app and Hopkins character,
the android or robot. I was like, Oh, this is really
cool and I'm excited to see where this goes. Spoilers it's five did seven
minutes of screen time, Like it's it's more of a setup for what's to
come, and I was really digging that. I like I always like Charlie.
It's tough. I always like Charlie Huntam. I like him in this
movie, but again, it doesn't feel like there's enough of him. It's
very surface level. I like his performance, but that's just him being charismatic,
and that was a character I really really wanted a lot more of.
And it just it feels like sometimes when again back to the fault thing,
when you get a companion and then or even if it's a republic and then
you don't check in on them for like a couple of days and you go
back, you're like, right, you're on my ship, Like, how's
it going. Charlie Hunt was like, oh good, I don't want this
life anymore. It's like, right, that's why you're here, Okay,
Like that's it just feels like. And the other comparison I have to this,
And that's where it does come into like there's a different cut is it
feels like when you play a video game for the second time and you skip
the cut scenes, so it's like you know the story a bit, but
you just skip all of them, and then a character says something like,
all right, that's what's going on. That's what this feels like, where
there's just should be so much more. Even though I also think I know
he wants to do like seven Samurai, I think they should at least cut
a few of these characters. Yeah out for sure percent That's what I was
gonna say, because I feel like if we if we lose a handful of
them, we can just spend so much more time of actually knowing them and
like like getting attached to them. And then like having a certain stake when
when they're in like a war type situation, and like we don't want to
lose these types of characters. But I feel like, yeah, like if
three of them just get marked in like one scene, I'll be like who
are they again? Like I it just I don't know. I think even
this movie, we meet somebody and then he's gone pretty quickly, and I'm
like, oh, oh yeah, no it's true, and like that's a
big name or like a big character name at least feel like the story wise,
right, yeah, it was built up like oh, this is a
supportant character. And then it's like, especially the way they go to it's
like okay, Like I was kind of shocked in that moment. Yeah,
like you you're not gonna get this anying. But it's just like this important
character gets killed by like like a pistol. You're like, oh, for
like I kill that didn't feel too necessary? Like I get why you did
it, but it's like you couldn't have just thrown the weapon, like yeah,
it it's it's odd. And again I know someone might go, oh
yeah, well in that in the next cut, this KRC has a lot
of time. It doesn't matter. This movie. They put out this movie
that Netflix thought was a good idea, and I think retroactively it will kick
them in the ass because I think there's a lot of people that aren't like
us that'll see this and go, eh, I've seen a bunch of sci
fi movies before, like when you have Dune coming out, Like Dune will
be on March and then this will be on April. I think you're right
that, of course this helps because it's on Netflix, But like, I
think this is enough of a it's all right for people to skip apart too
and maybe never come back to it, you know. That's that's why I
think it's kind of a a shitty thing. And who knows, maybe we'll
still watch that three hour come and be like, oh, this is also
just still not good, right, it doesn't matter. That could be the
excuse, right of all, there's you got a cut and it's like an
alterative thing. It's like that doesn't mean anything to see it. But even
then you get you get one chance to get people in the door. And
it's not like the Snyder cut where that's Justice League, Batman, Superman,
like those are big characters that people care care about right now. I don't
think this movie gave you enough chance to care about these characters in them.
So that's and then plus those are like iconic characters, right, so it's
like very very different situation. No, absolutely, and it like just speaking
of like that extended cut thing, I don't think there's any one thing that
they gloss over that would be like, Okay, it's pretty obvious that they
cut this out, so I would like to see that extended. I feel
like just across the board they cut off like a good like like a small
amount on like especially all the characters that we meet, like like just all
of that got got taken off. So it's tough for me to really like
pin on which area I want to extend more because it's just like I think
I need fewer characters so we can spend more time with the same like run
time that we got for this film just with those characters or yeah, like
or just add more time to that. But I don't know, I feel
the world building is not it the world building they get the bulk of the
time too, And that's like a pro and con for people, because like
that's a big snyderhithm, right, he loves he loves buildings. What we
talk about the Army Dead, where there's stuff that was presented and that was
like, oh that's cool, but there's not enough of in here. I
do think this doesn't suffer from Army Today because Army Ded was like, oh
there's a robot thing, there's this thing. This is like okay, this
is all about the world building. But again, the world can be cool.
But if I don't care about killing the characters, villains, et cetera,
why do I care what's happening in this world? You know? And
even though there are some characters I kind of care about, it's just that
where am I going to feel in a couple months? I think, I
guess like it's helpful that in April comes out, but it's just that I
guess. I guess that's just the biggest thing that I didn't feel the overall
that I was invested in it as much as I want and you know,
I want to be walking away even have something, but it's just the thing
of like I watched this at midnight, where now the uh the next one?
Like obviously probably for a view I'll watch, but it's not gonna be
like uh oh, I was really, I'm curious, like I'll be like,
i'll catch you in the morning, you know, like I wanted that
fever. I wanted something going on, and she wasn't there. Unfortunate.
Yeah, but then I like, I said, I don't think it's awful,
So, uh, anything else. Don Spoor would recommend this people.
I think if you if you're curious like like we were, and you do
have Netflix, I think it's I think it's yeah, you could definitely throw
it on. It's not. I mean, it is over two hours,
and there were certain moments when I was kind of being bored with it.
Uh, but I mean give it a shot. You can always turn it
off. It's not like you have to go out to the theaters or anything
like that. So you just pause that three minutes, be done with it,
right, fifteen minutes I watch fifteen minutes of that Galacadot movie on Netflix.
Never came back. Oh yeah, I've seen enough. Yeah, yeah,
Like that's it. I always have that thirty minute rule. It's like
you can, like if you're watching with someone else like that, at any
point in that first thirty minutes, you just are not vibe with it.
We could just turn it off and find something else. But which is interesting
because I feel like the first thirty minutes of this film is actually quite interesting
when they're when they're introducing to everything. But it's I think it's past that
point when I was kind of losing it. But yeah, I would recommend
it to Netflix viewers. I delay there Netflix viewers. Yeah. I think
for me, it's like if you like so I finding like Snyder, check
it out and see. But I wouldn't be recommended like my mom or anything
like that. I'm not like, you gotta see it, you know.
I was not like Dune. We're like, oh, you gotta go see
Dune, and Dune's great, you know. So No, that's a big,
big, big difference there, because for Dune, I found out there's
people, there's people. I was found this out yesterday. I was talking
to people in my class. Many people have not even heard of Dune.
They haven't heard of the movie Dune or like the Book of Dune, which
was kind of shocking to me because I just thought that was such a big
movie of van I'm like, you got so many powerful actors and there's a
daya Timothy Shallomy, like come on people and they're like, dude, like
what's it about? And then like if if people are if they have to
choose between one sci fi moving to see in their entire life, I would
say Dune over this, you know, yeah a hundred times. Not Star
Wars. Eh ooh, I think, uh who that's a good one.
Oh maybe yeah, Like Star Wars is just so soured recently, like in
my brain, so go back to the class. But like if you if
it's like you got that ticket for IMAX, are you seeing the original Star
Wars? Are you throwing on Dune with the fucking Hans Zimmer score? I
don't know, because I love Dune, but Dune doesn't have Han Solo in
it, and I love I love as much as I love Dune, there's
no character as Gray's Harrison for it's on solo, you know, Like no,
you're right, sorry, Like for like the movie itself, I would
probably have to pick Star Wars. But I'm such a glutton for just like
eye pleasure, and that's that's what done is as long as as well as
ear pleasure. I say, yeah, well we're gonna take our first break
and we'll be back, and we talk about spoilers all right, So let's
uh, let's let's get into this. We'll probably start, you know,
at the beginning as usual. But so we meet what was her name,
Cora? Right, that's her name or yeah, I don't remember. Yes,
she's some sort of Sophia. Butteler is a real name. Oh right,
the actual actual name. Right, she has some thre d's or something
like that. Yeah, yeah, it's important. Yeah, the trade solo.
I was like, wait a second, is he just riffing off both
these things? She's I don't know, she's some seed planter. She's like
moving rocks. I didn't really she was, right, okay, and that's
why she moved the rock. Okay, cool? Like whatever, how did
you feel? Because I've seen this talked about what did you feel about the
landscapes in this movie, like the CGI and the planets around and just even
in general? I think I think in general it was it was working for
me. It was working for me enough. It wasn't anything to like again
to be like, man like, just what this world was? It is
enough for me to really want to push for a golden geek stom or anything
like that. Like it never crossed that point, which it's strange for a
Steinder film, because usually his visuals are like like some of the top tiers
off the year. You know, did he do the cinematography for this one?
I know he did it for Army the Dead, right he did.
Yeah, I didn't like his or any dead, but I don't think he
did. Okay, I think are you am I delayed for you? Are
you? Is there something? Because I fig you're a little delayed for me.
But I don't know if it's my WiFi or your WiFi. I'll try.
I'll close some tabs here, I'll see what's going on. Cream is
watching some dune porn on the side. He's watching Dune right now as we
speak. That's all the cos let me know if I'm still delayed. But
you sound good for me, so it must have been my yeah, uh,
you know on the Pride shot there you go, there's a couple of
times when we were talking over each other. So I was curious what was
going on? Curious. But for the World Landscapes, I think for the
majority of it, I thought it was like a seven seven and a half
out of ten, like you know, like like that's that's pretty good.
It's it's I don't know if I would say it's great, but it's pretty
good. That opening shot. Wasn't a fan of it, just like the
super super bright background of the Jupiter like planet. I think it was a
cool idea of just having again like you're in this you're in this different planet
that has a complete like just what it would be like to have a planet
that close to our planet. Like, I think I like that idea,
but just the way that it was working when we had different characters talking like
in front of that landscape was a little bit iffy, and especially like that
village. I don't know what it was. The village didn't look bad,
but I feel like in that moment it looked quite bad, like in the
background, probably just because it was like a more nighttime shot with the planet
in the in the background there. And I don't know if this is like
Zack Snyder always does this, but there's always this like at least I've noticed
in the last few Snyder films I've seen, because I noticed it in Sucker
Punch as well, But they do this like blur effect like around the screen,
and I don't know if that's just to hide the CGI. No,
he he used to love its punch, but he used a lot in Army
the Dead. It's this thing called a dreams lens. I don't like it
really. I think he really spammed it a lot of Army the Dead,
so I feel like it was a little less here. But yeah, I
don't like the dream lens multiple times. I'm not a I'm not a fan,
but he's yeah, he's definitely a fan of it. Yeah, I'll
tell you what you're not gonna see, ay, dream lenses in the geek.
I do think so maybe for a dream sequence, but that'd be about
it, you know, like, yeah, there you go. So yeah,
oh yeah, you just asked about Landscape. So yeah, seven seven
and a half CGI. Overall, I thought I thought it was pretty good,
honestly. I I especially for I don't know what the budget was,
but I know the budget was like shared amongst the two films, right for
this one. I think so, but I think it's a bigger Netflix budget.
Okay, I don't know. How's the CG for you. I like,
for the most part, I liked it. I thought Jimmy was really
great. That character was like, yeah, he was realistic and he was
great. Yeah. Yeah, that's why he looks so good. They didn't
spend much of money on him, but like, no, he just looked
lifelike, which is good because we've seen one that doesn't happen. I think
landscapes, it kind of would depend on the shot because I liked the idea
of that plant being so close. But sometimes it just didn't look like it
just looked like it was a backdrop, but not in a good way.
And there's this scene where they're God of Fire and they were talking and it
was just her and the other guy, and there's something off with the landscapes
by the two where's like this just doesn't look like just it just looks too
cgi. And there'd be a little times where like, okay, there's a
ship here and there. But for the most part, I thought it was
pasted well. I like I. It was still good enough for like I,
I didn't have too many major complaints. There's nothing like log truck in
here anything, you know, but it just wasn't also like seamless, where
there was times like Okay, maybe this, uh, this, this character
in this background don't blend completely as I'd want it to. But I said,
I was fluctuating between seven and a seven and a half until I remember
that planet where they like they find uh what do they called, like the
blood Axes, like Ray Fisher's character and his sister man. When they were
flying into that planet, I swear I was watching like an episode of Clone
Wars. Like all of the cities in the background, they look like they
spend two minutes on like Microsoft paint or something. I'm being pretty hyperbole here,
but it's like it was very, very very bad. There was like
one window on each of these like skyscraper looking things, and they were just
like so so flat, like like one tone, Like it didn't seem like
they spent any time really like I don't know, detailing the textures there.
So that one was atrocious for me. Luckily, you know, it's not
really uh it's not a major area that we spent a lot of time in,
but just as they're flying in it, I just couldn't believe how bad
that looked in comparison to some of the other things. Because yeah, for
the most part, I thought it was I thought it was pretty down good.
I will say I feel like we tell it. Sucker bench of this
movie is not that I don't think it has those color levels. I will
say like the third act, especially when Core was fighting at Skarn, I
just felt like I had some sucker punch, just vibes going on, just
certain shots and whatnot. But that's one thing too. I also just feel
like action wise, nothing stood out too much of like a great action scene,
which I feel like Snyder usually does too. I think they're all like
service Ball. There's nothing bad, even though I was expecting the scene where
she kind of stops the assaulters to be a bit more kick ass, but
there was one time where her and this guy, we're just kind of pushing
each other back and forth. I was like, I don't really know what's
going on here, you know, I was waiting for a little more houspa
there, and like, I don't know if like the CGI or sorry,
the the SloMo is definitely a choice and it could definitely elevate. Means you
probably don't love in the Transformers movies. I feel like I feel like I
like it enough. I've only seen one, so I don't know you only
seen one Transformer movie? Yeah, I saw, and then I was like,
what we talk about road Moon? I saw that first one, which
everyone says is the best one. I still want that's it for me.
I don't need any more the okay when I it's tough. I did see
those ones, but I just count like the Bay ones. The Bay Ones.
Yeah, the Bay one. I always saw the first one and that
was it. I've seen Bumblebee and I saw what the hell argle Beasts or
whatever, rise of the Beasts arg Beasts there they are Transformers, their gorillas
and animals. Now the most recent one with the ye g I Joe,
Yeah, where's that announcement? So yeah, I again, it's been a
while, so I've seen Transformers, but I feel like I I like the
addition of the slow mo in those ones and in this one, like I
feel like it was almost just a way to like mask the fact that they
didn't really put a lot of effort in the fight choreography. And that might
that might be harsh, but that's really how I took it, because like
that, yeah, that that assault scene in the Barn, I thought that
was gonna be like a fucking John Wick moment. Like I was like really
really hyped leading into up until that here. Yeah, but percent like we
like we haven't seen our lead do really anything except for farm up until this
point. We don't really know anything about her as well, like we like
like we don't get her back story. Yeah, exactly. She's just standing
there with a fucking hand axe, looking like the Northmen just ready to like
sh she's fucking ripped for this movie is very muscles. Yeah, she's Yeah,
she put in the work like no that she's like a massive girl,
but just like you could tell like in other roles and then he's like,
okay, I gotta look like a warrior here. And it definitely kudos to
her, like and because like a lot of the other people are just wearing
really big jackets, so like I don't think they really falled up too much.
No, No, it's yeah, she looks. Except Jamond Hunter too,
he got fucking massively. He was like Hunter, he's like the general
they find. Yeah, he was huge and he's the biggest I've ever seen
him. He no his shoulders. Man, when he was standing there,
I couldn't believe how big he was. I like, I like he always.
I feel like all of his roles is funny. While we were watching
it, shit was like, man, I don't know why, but this
character just seems like he's always the exact same character in all these movies.
I'm like, yeah, fair enough. He's usually a pretty close uh like,
I don't know closely the same archetype that he plays in all these movies,
but and like he's usually showing his arms off at least like maybe no
shirt. But I felt like he ate a previous version of himself, Like
he was so huge in those moments, and I don't know, maybe a
little underutilized. We see him too too much after that, don't go to
general. Oh yeah, So back to the barn scene though, Yeah,
I was really really looking forward to just crazy fight choreography. And it's just
like you said, like it was hard to even tell what was exactly going
on, Like it was her against at least five plus of these army men.
You know, there's the the private guy that switched sides in there,
so I guess he kind of joined her tea, But for the most point,
for the most part, it was just her against all these soldiers with
guns blasters while she has his one hand axe. And I don't really feel
like I saw too much. And then it's just over and it's not like
the John Waite thing where it's like, okay, it's him versus these twenty
guys. It is unbelievable, but you somehow believe you get out of it.
This was like, have they not just shot her yet? And it's
not because I'm trying to say, like, oh, they should shoot this
woman, it said. It's like they didn't frame it in a way that
she moves fast enough or kicks ass enough, like the one where she's kicking
ass, and then like the third guy is like already like disarming her,
Like what's going on? Why? Yeah? Everyone else is just like aiming
their guns out. Yeah, like, clearly you shoot this woman right,
Like they already killed two people. It's not like they're worried to kill people.
They already killed the two most highest ranking people on this planet. So
it's just some random woman that they're like, I don't know if we're gonna
shoot her, And so yeah, I wish I wish that had a little
more of an impact would happen, because like, oh, this is when
it's gonna turn and that's where then they like even the last fight scene with
her and Ed Scurrin just doesn't I barely remember anything about it just didn't stand
out. I knew it was them. They were flipping around that pole lot
and I thought she kept breaking his arm over and over and that's pretty much
the extent of that scene. And he fell, which was very strange because
I was like, hey, he can't be dead. And then they brought
him back. He just looked like ed skin because I thought, oh,
okay, I get it. Snyder's doing his Vader thing. He's gonna fall
and then next time we see him, he's gonna have a suit, he's
gonna be all badass. Ah. They just put him in their version of
the Bath to the Tank. He looks like he's back to being the scene
guy with the bad haircut. Cool. And then he fell from I don't
know how far, but like and that's where maybe that again, I'm not
trying to say that because like there is that radar cut. Maybe that'll be
better. But here was like it just looked like he like fell down some
stairs, like he fell stories down all these rocks, and then when we
see him, it was like he has a couple of cuts on his face.
I'm like, what, like uh, Like it was super disappointed.
It was such a letdown, and we'll get down to what that scene ends
up. I was like, that was even a bigger letdown. I was
like, oh, that hole, that whole villaintees. I thought it was
gonna get me back in I was like, oh, not so, not
so much sheer, No for sure, I couldn't. Yeah, no,
one hundred percent. I knew he was alive after that. That's because because
she smokes him in the face with his little beater stick that he keeps using
throughout the film, and he just looks limp, like it looks like she
literally one shot him and then he's just limp falls however long and I assumed
that he was just gonna land in the water, but no, he lands
on the fucking rocks. Yeah. I would imagine he would at least have
some intestines out of his body or whatnot, but no, he's just like
unconscious there. So that that was pretty and just the whole fight in general.
Yeah, for that to be like the big climax of this movie,
major letdown. And there was a little bit of slow moo in that scene,
but it still seemed like one of those scenes that had less of it
in comparison to some of the other moments, because like you even shouted out
the uh, Like the Cantena fight scene, when the when the shooters come
back, and uh, it's funny. Like I again, like I just
feel like the slow mo was masking some like just some lazy choreography. And
that wasn't even a lot of hand to hand combat. It was mostly just
shooting. But there there's so many moments of her like like or like how
the scene starts like you have three shooters in the front and then one guy
behind them, and she has a gun on her hip and then it just
goes to the one guy pull up his weapon. It goes like immediately slow
mo and she just like does a one eighty spin, yeah, shoots the
guy. Dodge is like a hundred blazers all around her, and it was
just like, man, what plot armor does this character have? And even
when we have the flashbacks with her, that's all slow mo, just blasters
going on all around. It felt like I see her slim flag down like
and I heard on the mountain. I felt like it was a thirty minute
shot. It wasn't, but I just felt like we just kept seeing like
so because of the SlowMo, though it feels that long, I like it
was kind of unintentional. It's fun I don't think it's bad. It was
just a moment where she's telling her backster and like, okay, cool.
This movie has lost exposition every character. It's literally go to new planet.
Fine character, Hey, what's your story? Well, a couple of years
ago and that's a dark tail. Okay, cool. They do something cool,
then they're a part of the team. That is the whole last hour
this movie, over and over and over again. And that's where I was
like, just cut down again. I know he wants seven, but like,
cut you could cut blood acts, you could cut blood axes. Like
it's not even his sister. It's like his like right hand woman, Like
cut her out, and I don't give a ship. Like and I met
the guy last week, the guy who plays uh, the guy who is
the slave and the guy the has the hair and the gold tooth. And
he's like, oh you know they make that deal. No, no,
no, no, the guy the no he has gold teeth. This guy's
a gold tooth he has. Yeah, so that guy met him last week
on Dave's stream. Very nice guy, right porter he yeah, he voices
dark Side in the Zach Snyer film and stuff like that. It's a very
nice guy. I disliked the scene, but I was like, that not
him, It's not I would just cut like shirtless guy, like three hundred
guy. I would just cut, you know, like I just was not.
I did not care at all. Who knows, maybe if I watched
it. I watched it, flew them. Maybe that guy's like a hunk,
but like he was there and then he was just like silent the rest
of the movie and sometimes shirtless again. I was like, what are we
doing? Like there's just so many like yeah, he had like he had
to, like three hundred guy. Okay, now what was his actor's name?
Though? He said reporter No, So I didn't meet the I didn't
meet the shirtless guy. It was the slave owner guy. Okay. Sorry.
I was so confused because I'm like, I don't know how to tell
Travis, but that that wasn't reporter No. I explained him, no slave
guy and stuff like that. You know, I don't mind that. I
like the little bit where he tries to tame the beast and the beast just
kills him. But like, there's these characters and now I can't remember.
I went off a fucking tangent. Where were we talking about them? And
there's just something with these, like the characters, the seventh Samurai thing.
It's an immediate introduction that oh so right, because she's the first tells her
origin right to that old guy who we never see again, and then the
whole movie's like that where it's origin origin. So hopefully in part two.
My worry is they show that teaser for part two and there was like a
scene of Givant hunts in the past, so I'm like, why is there
more origin stuff? But cool, we might get that. So she's sounding
her origin right, and I don't mind this. It's pretty much just Kemora's
origin. Right of they show up, kill the planet, take her over,
and she becomes the daughter of Fan. I was like, that's what
it is. It's this guy who's Santos and she's the daughter. Okay,
cool, And it's this cut of and we had to find someone to mate
because if you have someone you love, they'll always watch you. Smash cut
to two seconds later, him just dead on the ground, like and it
wasn't it's not none of the badest scene. I just like I gotta laugh
out a little bit, and just like we just met her husband and dead
gone, just done. And it's fine because she's sound. I just gotta
giggle. I was like, Okay, I love so hard because like in
that moment too, Shanna watching it and she's like, oh, I bet
this character is gonna come back around, and I'm like, no, he's
gonna fucking die. And like as I said it, it goes to the
next frame and he's just on the ground. So it's like the timing of
it was just so hysterical and just like same thing, Like it's just weird,
Like why do you I don't know if there is that in a longer
cut or like what if she's reason that would make more sense. Why do
you even need to introduce her having a husband if he's just gonna die right
away and it feel like she's like having PTSD about him, like for the
film, like if you watch like past that point, at no point would
you imagine that she like had a past relationship, Like it's not like it's
a haunting thing that like built her character to be who she is. It
was, Yeah, it's not like and I thought it might be like a
force marriage and I don't know if it was that because they seem happy together,
like they're embracing and explain is he also like a child of war or
is he just like a straight up nazipiece of shold she fell in love with
though that's the one thing probably yeah, which one? I imagine the second
one? He's just a fucking yeah yeah, he's yeah, fucking empire.
Let's do it so like like when she was split off, if he didn't
die, I don't know. And like the origin was good enough. They
had some war stuff going on, so I know it did job. I
didn't love the origin honestly, I I in hindsight, like, I guess
you have this tie on how she is a badass, Like that does make
sense because she's just a farmer girl. Like how does she you know,
dismantle all those soldiers in the barn? Like other than just being I guess
i'll lumbered, Like she's she's toned from working in the in the field and
very strong from that, but like, how does she have all this fighting
skills? So for that reason, I'm okay with it. But I like,
uh, I did like the opening of it of it was very just
grounded. We met the village, very horny village. They just all want
to reproduce and just just let us fuck first five minutes, yeah, just
like yeah, and then like there was back. It was fucking yellow jacket
guy. It was just even funnier. He's wearing fu an Amish beard.
But and like, which was just such a weird. So that guy that
was named Dan, she was banging right. They really are like implying or
like they were implying that everybody just wanted them to clap cheeks because they're just
I don't know the most fit to do to do. So it was very
weird. They don't even talk to each other at any point, you know.
But then I swear at one point the character that the girl who's the
blonde girl I can't remember, she's like the one that almost gets assaulted.
She's like, oh, I was walking by Dens Barracks and I heard some
sounds of pleasure and I thought she was gonna say that. And Sophia,
but Tell's character is gonna be a little off put, like, oh,
he went with another woman, Like that's what I thought was gonna happen,
because we didn't see them talk, we didn't see a scene, so I
thought, Okay, there's maybe a crush. But he's like he's just a
man whoror whatever. It's like okay. Then she's like ha, but like
she didn't even say yes, and something like was that you he was banging?
Like I'm insinuating yeah, that like he banged her, I guess,
but like what happened in between, Like they had their meeting, they banged,
then she went back to go talk to the old guy who they had
this fucking like cover. But it's like if so if Sophia Hotels butt ass
naked, the guy is still just gonna like it's just a seat through sheet,
Like what is this? What is this coverage that's going on? So,
and that's what I say to Emily where it's like they're talking about this
den guy and the guy later on comes to him is like, oh,
like Dan, he was looking for you, and she's like, oh,
what is dead one on me? I don't know. So at first I
was like, oh, I guess maybe this is a guy trying to set
his friend up with her or something. But then they're trying to insinuate now
that they have something going on, and which was so weird. I was
like, Okay, they're set up a love triangle, classic, right,
It happens all these movies. What happens this fucking Den guy doesn't even go
on the mission. He just stays at the farm. So it's like,
and I guess maybe that's in part two. Maybe is that there's gonna be
like a love triangle that she was like she she was. She's been with
Den for like I feel like they're like seeing each other. Maybe they're just
friends of benefits and now she's falling in love with even though they're I to
insinuate that she's falling love with, I can't remember the coward's name or Guinnar
or I like that actor. I felt there was not enough even to imply
they were falling in love either then like then some longing looks. It's just
like, yeah, I I this whole love story so far, I'm not
feeling either way. No, maybe part two will be different. But whether
it's a trifecta her with one, I don't know. It's just not working
for every love that they introduced for her potential lover I thought was just such
a waste, Like with a flashback one he dies instantly checked mark that one.
Den is there and they don't do absolutely anything. They don't even talk
to each other. I thought that was an absolute waste. And with Gunyar
or Gunyar whatever the hell's name is, man, like, why the fuck
was even on the trip, Like like, like I get connection. He
is a connect No, he has connection of that blood acts is re member.
He sold to him, so that's why they need him to connect them
with. Okay, you got me there, but like, fuck, I
don't know the actor's okay, but I just for his character, I'm like,
man, what about Like I felt like the noble at the end when
he's like everyone you know, makes sense for them to be here, but
why are you here? But I guess he does save them in the end,
So I'm just giving a heart him a hard time. But you just
seem like a fucking fish out of water, like so uncomfortable with every situation
they're in. But uh going the uh started with that the oh yeah,
so that's what it was with the opening and just because I was saying how
I didn't love her whole backstory actually and like it fits for her having the
military skill, but I did like the whole setup of the villager thing,
but like it maybe you can correct me here. It seems like she had
been a part of that village for like, what less than two years,
because she says two seasons. I imagine that's too like crop seasons, so
maybe two years in that sense. But the way that it's set up,
it almost it almost seems like she's been a part of the village like her
whole life. And then you can tell it's revealed that she's not exactly who
she says she is. She's just like it seems like she is a lifelong
member of that of that village, and then until we get her backstory,
she's just been there for a very short amount of time. She has this
like adopted type father dynamic thing. I don't know, like it was working
in the moment, but then as soon as all that was revealed, it
just totally did not make sense to me. And it actually makes me like
that that whole opening sequence a lot less just knowing that, because it just
seemed I don't know, again, maybe I'm just being a little too hypercritical
here, but it just really did not make sense for her motivation to just,
I don't know, end up on where she was and then it was
just a short pit stop and to carry on with her her main goal which
was just a I don't know, be a rebel and bring down the enemy
there. So yeah, see that was what I was just kind of,
fine, that's fine. She's on the run, she's found this community.
Who knows how long a season is for them because it's space world, so
who knows? And and then I guess she's just like they talk about the
other guy in a coward. But she was like unless that girl's gonna get
assaulted. She was ready to bounce too, you know. She was like
literally like get her horse or whatever ready, like she was gone, and
she literally just said, oh, like I can't be here, like these
people are gonna die. And I gotta say myself was like, geez okay,
like I don't actually know if we needed that wrinkle, I would have
been but I don't know. I maybe I really don't know. I don't
know if I needed that wrinkle from her. I feel like you could just
have her stay there fight. I get. I liked her being like these
people just saw them get executed and they think they can make a deal like
they're they're goners. So I did like she was using that aspect of yeah,
why would you think like they just killed your two leaders. Why would
anybody think, oh, we can work really hard and they'll find the value.
It's like, no, And I like that she's seen that before.
But I feel like even then they didn't need to establish she was part of
the army. I just liked her being that smart to know, no,
this is not gonna go our away. We got to get out of here.
But I wish it just cut that and just got her to like just
fighting, because we already have like the kind of coward character over there.
We don't need another one. And like I said, if that girl doesn't
get assaulted that night, she's I'm assuming just gone or would she like turn
around. I don't know. So it didn't really work for me in that
moment, even though I liked the character for the most part. But yeah,
to me, I liked the tension of you know, we meet some
characters. I like the night where yeah, we're all just gonna get it
on. I'm liking the interactions going on to friendly people. I like when
the you know, their version of the Mother World Nazis show up. I
was a little underwhelmed by those Guardian people whatever with the big hats. I
thought they had no aura. They looked very cool, but they're just moving
around like rail with people in the rain and stuff. Like when I saw
them, like oh, these are really cool, but like they're just moving
around like dudes in caution. Like that's to me where it's just like,
uh, not that they had to have this because it's a big role,
but it's like the way Hugo Weaving plays V and V for Mendetta, whereas
he can't see his face, you only hear him, but he has such
a gravitass. You don't need that level because they're not main characters. But
they just felt like people in costumes and cause play didn't feel like anything like
all these cool I guess there are just like they're just writing their Bible.
I guess they're just writing things down. But I was like, okay,
no longer cool. Like I I it was like a Night's Event moment where
it's like, oh, the trailers and images we saw these characters were much
better than when we got them in the film, and now I don't I
don't care too much about them. It really felt like we like just their
appearance and and the fact that they were with like the Nobles party when they
get on the planet. I was getting like Benijestrit vibes of like, oh,
like, who are these individuals? They had? They had cool like
I did, like their designs of everything. They had interesting like masks where
you couldn't see their face, like you're saying, but yeah, they really
didn't do anything. And we saw a couple get just murked later on,
so yeah, really no gravitas, like you said, no, no presence,
unlike the Benijestrit, which again doing that Dune in comparison. Not that
they're in the same caliber by any means, but that's a second. I
break and we be right back with some more rebel moon and we're back.
But as I was saying that, I like the intensity when they show up.
I like the whole crossing of they're gonna lie and say, hey,
we won't have enough for ourselves. We have some reverse but let's not say
that because they'll want more. You have the guy who, like I know,
decides to say something, which is like again, happens to many movies.
I wish they just made the argument before a little more heated, because
it just felt like he was like, I'll definitely listen to what you have
to say, and they're like, well, you know, we could provide
It's like, all right, I guess we got to go this way for
the movie. But the first actor I liked. I like setting up the
community of the village like whatever. I really like Jimmy and the girl,
Like he pulls up Like the rest of the goons and stuff. They all
suck. They're just generic bad guys. But he's helping. They're shooting him,
you know, very much like AI robot videos we see today. I
people are making them like poking with those sticks and stuff. But I liked
this. I liked that they shot him and then later on when it comes
back and they tell him to shoot, very cool Mollium just holding that gun.
He like shoots it off to the side. I love when he talks
about the girl and how like courage is gone and he used to fight but
yeaha YadA and she touches the you know, the face and leaves that like
warmart like all that stuff. I like, you know, not that it
was perfect, it's one of the best movies, but like I was really
into the opening, Like I said, act one of the movie, I
was like, Okay, I'm digging most of this, and then I think
once we leave, there's some issues, but yeah, same thing, Jimmy,
That's definitely a highlight for the movie. You though it was a little
mount. I was very much enjoying that character to the point where I was
disappointed that he was not on the whole movie because it's just like, this
is really cool what they're setting up. Again, That's why I would take
less characters and just put him along for the ride. You know. Was
he clearly helped. I just like he like fucking ran away after it as
soon as he gets introduced, Like it's pretty evident that he I don't know,
he just seems pretty pretty wholesome, like pretty pretty heartwarming. He's not
like the you know, eye robot, and it's not like when the Eye
robots go all red that they're they're the villains anymore, like like he did
seem like he has something like that. And I like the little Lord that
they're building around it on how like after the king died, they just put
down their guns and they like they're not violent anymore, like I did,
like all those seeds of Lord that they're introducing, And I love that scene
amongst the villager girl and the robot, like and he gives there sorry,
she gives him the flower crown, and then to the point that he takes
out that soldier later on, and then yeah, just fucks off. Like
I loved all those moments, and then the movie went on and we just
had so much stuff going on. I completely forgot about him until the end
scene and he's got these fucking antlers now, like he's he's totally moded out
his gear. I was just, again, this is something in hindsight,
but now it's just like I feel like it's bringing down the movie. I'm
like, I can't believe, like we just didn't have him on the adventure,
like that would have been so much more interesting than getting fucking blood acts
that just dies by the fucking turret gunner way later on. God yeah,
I was like, that's Ray Fisher. Oh my god, I can't wait
to see what he's gonna do in this movie. Like I don't know,
I don't know what I can say here because I go and fodcus for a
guy that really went to bat for Zack Snyder. I was really thinking he
was gonna have a much larger presence this film, and it felt like he
pretty much just had a cameo, I thought, and especially they talk about
the Blood Acts is the whole time they set them up, and it just
reminds and it's funny because it's like a reoccurring thing. I know, people
defended and people said, oh if we got part two, but reminded me
a lot of dark Side in Justice League, where they set him up and
then we get that flashback and he just gets fucking destroyed, and you're like,
oh, this is dark Side. Hey, like he just got lost
on his first outing here on Earth. And I get it because oh,
this is young dark Side. He's gonna grow up. But this is how
I feel like. They're talking about Blood Acts and one he like, you
know, he gets kidnapped with the rest of them, and then two when
he goes to fight, he died. Like the first battle were with him.
He dies, and like, I get that this shit was up there
shooting other things, but why did he have to run up there with his
spear and take it out? He misses the first time he tries to stet
like, it just feel like a a nothing care like now, like I
don't have any height for again, it was a Knight's of Rend situation where
all him and his sister. They're these are the leaders of the rebellion.
It's like if we met han solo and when they leave tato Wine, his
ship got exploded, like well thanks Han, you know, like he's just
like where Grido like shoots him instead of like you know, like all of
his bad shoot each other. They shoot each other and Hansel dies in the
bar. He helped them get a ship and they have Chewbacca now, but
that's about it. And it was I because I literally were around because he
got shot. He got shot twice, and I'm like, well, armor,
he's a badass whatever. But then when his face like he like fell
against the the fucking ship and his face was just like open eye and they're
like, oh my god, is he actually dead here? And I like
wound back, like yeah, he just got shots ice and yeah he's dead.
He's gone, blood axe leader of the Rebellion over with and again we
meet him. We had a quick origins. I'm back and forth with his
sister. They get kidnapped and hees gone. You know, it's just like
what how could I get that invested the character? And I guess it just
wasn't cool enough either for me because it's like he died like the way he
died to it's just but yeah, blood Axe is that way I didn't go
for. I said, I could have done without the three hundred guy who's
in that. Yeah, and then the now we're stuck with blood acts like
right hand lady like she's just like adopted in the crew. Now it's like
she's not interesting at all, like zero zero, like at least like have
her sister that have a sister there, Well, we'll meet up with the
sister right in the next film and like, well again here because I feel
like you weren't a fan of character just by looking if I'm wrong, Charlie
Hannah was just like dead right, Yeah he must be. Oh yeah,
because Gunyar or whatever his name, he right in the head. And yeah,
I was not a fan of Charlie Haunam's character in this movie. I
don't like I was excited knowing that he was in this. This is uh
like I've just what what else have I seen him? And he was in
he was in the bikers show Sons of Anarchy, seeing like one season of
that he's yeah, he was good in that, and like just hearing positive
things. But Tarlie Hanham like I was looking forward to, uh just seeing
his inclusion and what his character would be in this. And I feel like
as soon as soon as he was on screen, it didn't seem like he
was playing like well he had an accent, I guess, but it just
felt like it was Charlie Huntum, like what plucked out of Sons of Anarchy
and just like put in here with a different accent, like just like his
look wise, like he's not his actual accent. I don't know, maybe
I can't remember if he's British or not. Maybe I'm wrong. I'll retract
or retract, I'll pull it up here. What we got, we got
British actor. There you go, Okay, so he's not whatever was he
supposed to be like Irish here, Scottish yeah, or something of the British
tongue, but like he didn't have like he had enough for me to be
interested in what was going on. And it's funny because I feel like I
kind of peaked on interest with him when when he was saying to uh,
Cora there of like yeah, no, like let's just leave this life behind.
I'm gonna drop this off the all gang he just betrays everyone. I'm
like, man, I am so disappointed with his inclusion in here, because
up until that point, he doesn't fucking do anything like at all. He
shoots, he shoots the the he saves core life. He does save COR's
life. When's that in the bo's the big guy's gonna shoot her and he
he had shots him, so he does like I'm assuming should at it.
But he does save her life, so he got that going on. I've
seen her dodge so many lasers up until that point. I imagine it would
have just gone slow mo and she would have turned her head and shot him.
Anyways. But see, I was the reverse of you where I liked
the turn because I hated the rest of this. I like his performance,
I just hated how they met him and he's a full and criminal and they're
like, oh, you're gonna enjoin us, like yeah, I got nothing
else to do, and I was like what what? And like right before
they're like they're like, how are we gonna get to this planet? And
he's like, my ship's at port, let's go. It's like okay,
that works, and because they're like we can't pay you, and he's like,
well whatever, I can like like earn along the way will be worth
it. It's like fuck, like what like? And that that was my
issue too. I like, O this drop off and the whole like,
well, I'm ready to leave this lie. So that's why for me it's
a twofer. I was happy with him being a turncoat because like, Okay,
all this stuff makes sense of him, like flagging off because he just
wants to get a bigger payout from the mother world, So like, can
that make sense? Why he's just like, oh, you're gonna pay me
because in the long run, he's gonna get a big paycheck from the bad
guys. So that all work for me now, though in retrospect, I
was like, why didn't any one of them suspect, Like why did none
of them ask? Like I'm not trying to make the comparison, but we
all brom up so well, and I feel like they've I feel like Snyder
looked this character like I'm gonna make Han solo. But what if he was
bad? Right, it's the reverse of Han starts batting, turns good.
That's what this is, and he's bad the whole time. But at least
Han the characters Obi Wan Luke would never go, oh, he's a dark
Side or Empire spy because he's like, I want this money, I want
this, so you go, okay, he wants something for Charlie haunteramany the
first guy just be like, well, looks like you guys need some help,
and he seems like he's just like a criminal bounty hunter type of guy
or just somewhere. It's like, but but why, Like, I just
feel like they never gave him a strong enough reason to join the team.
For most people, like the slave guy, that made sense because okay,
they're freeing him and he wants to make a difference. Jamon Hunts, who
like, okay, he was a general. It's fault them, so that
makes sense. The like Jedi type samurai is like, I guess she's a
do gooder, but yeah, hunt On the whole time like this makes no
sense. That's why the reveal kind of worked a bit better for me.
It's not great for me, it's just purely saved on. I enjoy Charlie
Huntman and I think he's charismatic, but then they just fucking get rid of
him, and I'm like, wow, what a what a waste? You
know, it's just like it. I don't know, it's just not not
great, but you were happy to see him go. I was happy to
see him go just because we didn't like even up until that point. Like
I don't think there's anything that would have had me excited on like if he
survived, what's gonna happen next movie? Like is he gonna track them down?
It's not like he's a badass bounty on her like you just like,
yeah, he's got a gun, But I don't think anyone would be like
fearful, like Core would kick his ass in a one on one as well
as with like the general guy, Like just feel like all of our characters
could just dismantle this guy. So I don't think I would have needed him
as being like another antagonist in the next movie. I guess I just would
have liked a returning bad guy because I had scared and come back and that's
fine, But then we got that other bad guy, and I'm not looking
forward to that guy coming up like the very end boss like Corus Adopted Dad,
where I'm like, this is not interested, Like I'm not interested at
all by this like this cane yeah, and that's like a like I try
not to but that for me was like an acting thing of just like he
just said, whoever they got doesn't have the right vibe for this. In
my opinion, he had more like this squirrely like Weasley, like little Finger
type of seem like a number two, not the number one, you know,
and he's the number one. I was like, oh damn, that's
even like Ed Scarin is a better number two than him, like he would
have been a number three. Yeah, So I didn't mind the whole I
like Cora's way because he he had a similar origin of kor where he's like,
I had people on my planet, they came, I fought with them,
they killed everybody, and that's when I learned I'm not gonna go against
history. And I love the line like this whole thing here is not even
gonna be like a cliff note in history. So I liked the reasoning of
he was the reverse Quorra, where Cora saw, hey, they're gonna kill
us all we have to fight Hunum's characters. They're gonna kill us all.
I don't want to be with them, like I don't want to be I
don't want to make people that are gonna be killed. I don't want to
make friends with them. Make so I liked that reasoning, but it's also
again, it's not great. It's not like a character I'm going to bat
for. It's not a performance. It's just again, I want more,
And I just felt like the crew doesn't like we have this seven but they
don't really interact that much too, because it just feels like it's always them
talking to the person recruiting, and then they get recruited and then there's just
like an NPC on the side for the whole time. You know. So
I was just gonna see something, but it's it's fleeting. How do you
feel about the Samurai Girl Spider Boss sequence? Oh yeah, No, I
didn't like it as much as I was expecting to like it, honestly,
same. I just I don't know, like the design felt kind of not
too uh too extremely cool. I don't like like I liked when she was
popping off with her little saber swords, I guess, and just like her
whole look aesthetic, like I don't know, again, very much reminded me
of like an anime type character. Yeah, I realized that. Oh yeah,
I feel like I don't know, maybe I have seen her in something
but nothing too. Yeah, I'm not sure. I was talking to this
about Emily. I'm not sure. Have you ever seen Cloud Atlas in your
life? No. I love that movie, and she's like a main character
in that, and I think that's only the other thing I've seen. So
I just really liked that one performance. But I like, I liked her
here. For me, it wasn't the look of the Spider. It was
just the setup was underwhelming, and she's like they bump this character and she's
like in the like, oh, I'm like busy, and then they like
they walked to the middle of the city and the Spiral woman's just in the
middle of the city. I'm like, oh, like and she's kidnapping,
Like there's this this whole story. The way I thought the spik character was
me. I thought it was gonna be like a crucial thing to the plot,
and that I will say it's just based on my expectation, So that's
not to the movie I just saw. I didn't think it was gonna be
this mini boss that gets dispatched of quite easily. Yeah, well, like
I did. I didn't even really it's a render. I didn't even remember
that she was in it, like from the trailer until we did the sucker
punch and then you said, what's her face? The actresses the Spider Lady
and Rebel move, Yeah, So I was kind of looking forward to that
of just having this again. You know. I like the usages of she
Lob and Lord of the Ring, so I like when we have these spider
like villains. And I think it peaked when they see the web and she's
up there like the silhouette holding the child. I think that's what peaked for
me. And then and then you reveal her face and it's like, Okay,
I don't love this design and not really scary, and then she heard
like reason's like they're poisoning my air, so my eggs aren't hatching, and
it's I'm getting flashbacks to Auquaman too and the whole pollution storyline. So that
didn't really sit too well with me. And even the fight was kind of
underwhelming, not too much if I remember correctly, but I don't know.
It just didn't seem like a lot was going on too, because it's like
there's a group of people around and it's just our samurai chick, just one
on one in her uh and then you know, in a fight that just
wasn't too interesting to me, Like it just it just was like she gets
pinned down like chop off a a, she gets pinned down, chop chop
up. Like I was waiting for them, like, oh, this is
gonna be really exciting, and it just just wasn't you know, it wasn't
bad. I don't think it was like all this awful action. It's just
like, oh, just okay, standard standard action scene, standard action scene.
Yeah, and she's just kind of is forgettable unfortunately until like the very
end when they capture them, and then the's like and you the swordsman that
takes out all these generals and they're and their troops because you lost your children.
I was like, oh, yeah, she's there, and and like
that's the reason why she's there. So it's I mean, it's just like
a recurring thing with all of our air quote NPC type characters that we got
introduced to, Like they just don't really do too much after the introduction,
so uh, hopefully in the next part, like we get a lot more
moment and some of them being badasses. Because I did like her look,
I like her hat. It was very like van Helsing sort of aesthetic another
character that just reminded me of like an anime character. So I did like
the look and her sword, like when the swords changed color and everything,
that was fucking cool. But so like a blue version that sword a bad
guy had. Yeah, yeah, that was really cool. Some force type
thing. So that's a no. Ye, I'm surprised, but I was
just I was wondering because they well, actually that's a lie though, because
remember they showed that princess bring that bird back to life. Oh yeah,
so it was like the most minor thing, and I guess I'm assuming that's
what that guy at the gine probably has to right, he might have some
space magic because I thought it could just be like the sword thing. But
you know, so that's that's all right. I'm interested to see how because
they didn't establish that all these firestor people have to have, you know,
uh, a special power to use these swords or something like that. Right,
So even that scene in the end, like the way I took that
was buddy. He was in the back of the tank. That was hard
for me to say. The bat the tank it's a tubes. And then
and then he's got like the tubes. He's he's looking like Neo in the
real world. And then I I took it like like his his memories essentially
was going into this like place that's where he conversed with Buddy, or like,
how did you did you take it that way too? Or he got
like actually like his physical bodies actually on that that fucking snowy Plaine thing.
And then I think it's just like a force call situation. Yeah, because
the way you said it, it's earlier, it seemed like he was you
read it as he was just fully recovered and he's standing there in his attire
again. Yeah, no, but I feel like, is he not gonna
be recovered when he gets at that tank? Oh he will be. I'll
have a scar, but yeah, yeah, maybe like a minor one.
So yeah, No, I think it was just his his mental aura there
Where the fuck is that guy? Right? I guess he's also in another
machine pumped up to like a aura machine, and he's hiding now and he
wants his daughter are found and stop the rebellion, and they literally just call
him rebels, just like Star Wars, which just like I know it's called
Rebel Moon, but they were like there's rebels, there's rebel skin. Yeah,
there's a few other just like exact quote for quote words that's like,
oh, this is just Star Wars. Okay, yeah, well again like
even like the imperial type villains, like just straight up Nazi garb and and
everything. So definitely hitting that same that same note there. But uh yeah
it was the other character. Oh the h yeah, the Griffin writer like
my name I I laughed so hard by the end of that scene because like,
yeah, it was a cool setup of him like just working off his
debts to this to this guy that then just basically owns him. He's he's
chipping away and he's he's seems like he has a lot of honor, like
he doesn't want to go against his his word on what he said and he's
sorry, it's like a arm he's like orm to fill exactly. I'm going
back to jail. So for Atlanta's But like, I just laugh because the
whole thing was like, yeah, you gotta pay all three hundred thousand whatever
the money is, and it's like, no, we don't got that.
Well, I'm a betting man, so if he can break that Griffin,
and in my mind, I'm like why the fuck does this party even have
to be here for this event to happen, Like, I feel like at
any point, Blacksmith guy could have been like, you know, I'm gonna
make you a deal. I could break that gryffin for you, and if
I don't, I'm just gonna have a life debt with you, like I
will never because he's paying off his debt right Like, Like it's not like
it is a finite time for when he'll be a free man. Like I
just feel like he could have said that exact same thing because he just did
it so easily, Like it's like he's been like training for this moment his
entire life. Just breaks this griffin like instantly goes on this adventurous little like
Harry Potter type moment and then we get that slow mo shot of him get
launched off of it. But then he goes and runs and then he's like
in front of the sun. It's super slow mo, and then he lands
very bondie moment, comes back, just gives it to the guy, and
then of course it kills him. Yeah, I was really hoping that that
was gonna show up like later on like a cool amount part two, right,
he's gonna go Yeah, I hope so I must be Yeah, I
I think that. For me, I just didn't I get it because these
happened a lot in these type of movies, Like Qui gon Jin does he
does that because what what what is the bet? He he bets that of
Anakin and Wincy AND's like free one of them and then if he loses,
it's his whole ship. Right, But for me, it's like risky bet,
but still like, okay, it's a ship. Like worst case scenario,
you could probably try and find a way to get off that planet something
where you just not keep your word. And maybe that's what the case is
here. But the fact that these three characters, like especially Korra and the
other guy, this village is about to get killed. They got to get
back there. So the fact that oh, if we lose his bet,
we will just become slaves to you guys, like I don't buy this.
I bet I'm not doing that deal. Like you never even met this guy
before, Like they don't know that he's a Griffin rider. It's just like
can you do that? He just fell. I was like, oh,
you're a slave. Like I just didn't like that to me was just too
bad of a stretch. Like if you loses, bet what, you're just
gonna let all these men, women, children just get fucking destroyed and ravaged
by the mother world. It's like, no, right, I'm like,
like, you guys are careless people. Who wasn't I wish it was something
something else, even if it was one of them one, like I'll take
one of you then that's fine. Yeah, or even the coward guy like
maybemight be part of his redemption right, like he volunteers because he got two
of his friends killed, like and I'll stay like if I like, but
like all three of you are gonna be slaves if he loses, Like he
said, this guy you've never met who could just be a fucking imbecile,
Like it was too much of a stretcher. It was an eye roll.
It's much like when joined the team of like I don't know, whatever Manny
make all the way it'll be worth It's like, okay, this is just
too easy, you know, Like I said the general that Jim and I
agree with because like he just wants revenge, right, Samurai lady I agree
with because she just feels like she's just like a vigilante warrior that wants to
do good out there. The blood acts people I buy because they're rebellion,
but hunt them and I guess like the slave guy, Yeah, sure he'll
break out and help you. But I just didn't like the setup of it.
So yeah, I was getting like from uh Terek, I think that
was his name. I was getting major, Yeah, yeah, the the
dude with no shirt, uh, the Griffin breaker. I was getting major
like Zank Vibes, which is the character from Dungeons Dragons. I can never
say his name, the guy from Bridgerton something, Jean Page, yeah,
John whatever. Yeah. I was just like, you just seemed like very
like like I don't know, he's very chiseled, man, he looks great
without a shirt. And then he just he's he's just badass, you know.
He's he's pounding away at that fucking at the blacksmith Anville and then he's
like, I can tame it. He goes up to it very majestically.
He just tames it and like he's just like this perfect specimen essentially, which
is like basically what Zank's character is from Dragons. You're gonna show that I'm
better on your bed that whole whatever that fucking speech was. I was like,
I just wish the bird turn around just fucking slips throat and they're just
like they're like watching we're slaves now. But uh yeah, that's that's who
I was thinking of. So I was kind of chuck cleaning that moment.
And also just the ridiculousness of like, I can't believe they just made this
deal with him and he just did it so easily, and why like why
wouldn't he just make that deal in the first place, of like even without
this crew coming to do that? But I don't know, maybe he didn't
know he had the option. Yeah, and who's the other one we didn't
talk about yet? I guess we mentioned the general. He doesn't really do
too much, not much. He's a jack dude that wants to fight the
mother world. And I think we're gonna learn more about him in part two
because just like there was flashbacks of him being younger with hair like a different
Hairstyle's like, okay, we're gonna ask full origin. But like they set
up and I did like that they were the big Boss was like you got
to cut that off, Like they can't have him on the team, Like
they mentioned him as being a threat, like they call him very tactical,
and I was like, okay, that's cool right away, even within a
couple of senses, it's like we didn't get to see him too much.
We see him fight, of course, but like that's like, no,
he is a good leader. And even in the preview they're showing him like
doing this war speech and stuff. So I hope they show that also in
the movie, not just tell us like he's very agous, but if it's
just him doing a bunch of cool shit, it's like, well, no,
Like I want him to be a guy that comes up with a great
plan or a part of the great plan. We go, oh yeah,
this guy was a general. Like I know Core is the main character,
but it doesn't matter, Like I don't want her to be fully like yeah,
we're gonna do this, this and this. It's like, no,
the guy who's the tactical general, he should probably throw his two cents in,
right, but uh so, hopefully we'll see I have some faith there.
And Jamond Hunts he's always good. He always did good line deliveries.
Like he's he does play similar characters, but like the good thing is he's
always just they're always good, Like he never stands like you just know,
like he'd be like a wide receiver where maybe he's not gonna get every touchdown,
but you know he can make some plays that shaman hunts you where maybe
he's never gonna be the best part of the movie, but you know he's
not ever gonna be bad. You're never gonna hire and be like, oh,
this guy's gonna stink up the joint. He'll always show up and deliver.
Like I take him a GV movie. I would take him on a
r you know, fucking hell yeah, I'd get my character justnes beating up
by Kirklan versus. I'll just pull as you're talking, I was pulling up
his h his little IMDb here he was in Grand Tarrisma. I'm sure he
plays a different character something. He's like a race car guy. Yeah,
Like I think he's like one of the guys on the sidelines. So yeah,
anything else. So you haven't mentioned anything specific character scenes. I think
I've hit it all for my most part, And like I guess we're going
to talk about like we danced around it. They just set up that.
It was, like I said, the Gomora thing her dad was a fanos
type character adopts her. She goes, I don't know why adopted me.
She breaks apart because she realizes the era of the ways of mother World,
and then the guy's obsessed with getting his daughter back. But like I said,
I just felt that actor had really no hoosbet or the way he was
directed because he was younger in the flashback, so when he was turned to
us, Oh we're gonna get the older version. Who was this actor?
I'm like, is Jefferdine Morgan's Patrick Wilson, Like I'm just trying to think
of, like who Zack Snyer worked with, right, like Jefferdine Morgan,
Patrick Wilson, Like I'm trying to think what Zack Snyder's staple could this be?
And it was just that guy that was already like he felt like the
guy you hired just for flashbacks. But it's like, oh, no,
he's the main guy. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe we'll watch part two be
like, oh, this guy is really good and we just didn't see it
just was not a hype. It didn't get me hyped. But Beard,
they felt like the Beard and like the big black Cloak was gonna do something,
and it definitely did not. Yeah, even the flashback, like I
don't know, he just seemed like a soldier, not like the main general
guy that's supposed to be this tyrant right that's just making planets of people run
in fear. Like he really didn't stand out at all. And even the
scene of him like approaching the younger version of Kora and like holding the gun,
it just it really wasn't doing anything for me, Like I didn't feel
threatened or like intimidated by any means, whereas like Jeffrey Dean Morgan as a
villain, like fuck you feel that just like sitting on my couch, eat
my popcorn and I feel like I tremble in my boots. But by no
means was I getting that from a from Laddie Laddie here, don't even know
his name, but like you said, hopefully he really impresses in part two.
Yeah, yeah, I think that's all I got. I got nothing
else, Yeah, got nothing else. Curriculum, What would you uh write
this movie? There's a tricky one. Uh hmm. It might be harsh,
but like thinking about just am I gonna be remembering like specifically this movie,
I know I'm gonna be watching part two in a few months here,
but like a year from now, you know, Like, am I really
gonna be thinking about all these scenes and characters from this movie? I don't
really think so. And enjoyment wise, there is some stuff in here that
I did enjoy, but a lot of it again, like I just really
didn't like the whole pattern of just jumping from one character to the other and
then kind of forgetting about the other character. I didn't like some of those
just I don't know, just certain certain choices here and there. But I
do like the scale that they're going for in this movie. I'm gonna go
a six point two five maybe right now. I didn't want to go six
and a half because I spoiled it. That's why I gave Aukaman two and
I definitely had a more fun time watching that movie. But it just seems
a little too harsh for me to drop it at a six right now.
But who knows, maybe you'll maybe you'll one up me or one one down
me. You're muted by the way you have to do that. Yeah,
I'm just a little above yet the at the six point five, it's almost
the same method though, where I gave Acamann a seven and yeah there five,
I still like they're pretty equivalent because I think some of the shortcomings of
this heard it. But then I also think that there's just some stuff that's
just like it's just like straight bad, Like I other than a husband moment,
there wasn't anything in here like I laughed out loud because all this is
really cheesy, over the top, where Acaman I definitely had that happen,
right, So yeah, but yeah, no, it's six point five.
I think at one point it's like a seven. But I always say I
give sevens to movies that are like, I'm gonna go back and even if
it's not the greatest, there's something about that I know I will we watch
case and point. I always use it as example Brendan Fraser and Elizabeth Hurley's
Be Dazzled. I don't think it's the greatest movie. I don't think it's
the greatest comedy, but I probably watch it at least once every couple of
years. It's like, you know what, I just really enjoy that.
And that's where for me seven's are maybe critically or overall, there's it doesn't
meet all the matches, but there's something, there's some genesti qual that I
want to come back to, even if it's like a performance, right,
even there's just like one role where it's like, oh, the movie's all
right, but I want to watch this actor play this role. I don't
have that here. So that's where, you know, and maybe it'll retroactively
go higher when I see part two, you know, and sometimes that can't
help. But uh yeah, not A six point five is where I am
at. I don't think it's as bad as people say, but I don't
think it's a great first step in the universe. But again, it's just
like a movie that's out there, so be a part Yeah, No,
I would again, I've I've seen so many, so many worst movies oh
this year, in my opinion, you know, I'd rather watch this.
Uh yeah, let us know Discord, YouTube, Twitter, all good jazz,
what you thought about it. We'll be here for sure for Part two
director's cut. We'll see when that drops and we'll talk. I'll talk to
Kirkland and see where his mind frames at. And uh, we'll talk to
Taylor because Taylor, you know, he's like, oh, I'm not gonna
watch it because they said it was better than Star Wars and fuck that.
But then he's still watching, you know, so whatever. But yeah,
well we'll see, but at least Part two will for sure be there.
Son, till then I'll not be born. Bye bye