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You're listening to KFI on demand,
I bet you've heard the phrase there ain't

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no such thing as a free lunch. This famous phrase, you probably hear

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it all the time, popped up
and became popular in American literature from around

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the late eighteen hundreds on into the
early nineteen hundreds, and it derived its

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meaning from the special free lunch that
was offered with your drink at many saloons

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in the US. So, if
you can imagine, these so called free

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lunches would sometimes be they could be
kind of rudimentary in style, or they

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could be very elaborate, and sometimes
they were quite elaborate, and we're typically

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much more expensive than the cost of
just one drink. So the saloon keeper

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was kind of banking on the customer
not only buying a second or maybe even

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a third drink and balancing things out
a little bit, but also building return.

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Customers, give a little up front
and you can get a little later.

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It builds this kind of goodwill.
At least it appeared that way,

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but ultimately with more drinks and more
frequency to the saloon, that really a

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saloon keeper was making much of the
money back. These types of so called

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free offers still exist today in one
form or another. But make no mistake,

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there's nothing in life that is truly
free. Everything, everything worthwhile comes

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at a price. You may not
always be the one paying, but I

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assure you someone one is always making
the payment. I'll explain how this all

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ties in fourth July coming up,
but I want you to think about maybe

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that time in your life where where
you were growing up and all of a

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sudden you became of age to where
your parents started expecting you to pay for

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things. I'll give you a moment
to remember such a horrific concept, But

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there is there's a time where maybe
you get to an age where your parents

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think, well, you can we
go out somewhere or something like that,

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you can pay for your meal,
and maybe it's later, or maybe you're

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even out of the house at that
point. My producer Neil and I were

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talking about this very, very concept, and he says he remembers quite distinctly

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that moment when his father looked up
at him and said or put his money

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out for his meal when they were
out and expected producer Neil to pay his

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part of the tab, And how
wonderfully shocking that is in life. But

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also reminds you that nothing is free, that there's a time and a point

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where everyone makes a payment on things, or somebody's making payments for things.

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And unfortunately, and some may say
that today it's particularly bad these days,

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but the importance is to appreciate it
and to know that nothing comes without any

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price. And the fourth of July, which of course commemorates the Declaration of

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Independence, the creation, the signing, this moment, this opportunity to be

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free or to focus on a new
ideas, and to enjoy the freedoms therein.

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It's important to remember that all you
have today, everything is because someone

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was willing to sacrifice or to make
a payment for it. It didn't come

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cheaply. It certainly did not come
free. Over two hundred and thirty years

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ago, a group of people made
huge sacrifices and fought so that the thirteen

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Colonies could give birth to the United
States. That is something that you should

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never forget. You should always have
that in the front of your mind,

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that the things that you enjoy today
came at a price. Like everything,

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that idea of no free lunch points
back to that points back more to like

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marketing schemes or the idea of somebody
trying to lure you in, but really

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it's if done properly, it's a
balance of things. We want to show

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you that we are a place to
enjoy, or that you can come and

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eat and drink or do what have
you play games. Often you you'll hear

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about Las Vegas or casinos offering you
know, cheaper rooms, free rooms,

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things like that. It's not just
a marketing ploy. I want to get

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you in knowing that you'll experience more. But in life it's much when when

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you say free lunch, it's much
more than just those types of marketing ploys.

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It's about it's about understanding that the
way the system works, the entire

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system, the entire planet works,
is that good things come from hard work,

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from dedication, perseverance, righteousness,
and honesty, and that those are

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the tools of payment. It's not
always just money, but the tools of

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payment that make everything run. And
I'm sure you're doing things in life that

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helps others as well. So the
things that you're focused on, you may

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think, well, I'm just doing
X, Y and z, and how

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is this helping? But someone else
is benefiting from your work, from your

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efforts, from all that you do. If you forget the fact that someone

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made a payment, the payment many
payments in your life, you'll forget it's

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importance and its value. As you
celebrate the fourth of July holiday, and

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you celebrate this day commemorating the Declaration
of Independence, if you just get lost

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in all of the fanfare or the
fun of it all, or the time

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off, you'll lose sight of its
value. The blood that was shed for

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you in battles, the time spent
to even construct the Declaration of Independence,

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the risk that people put their life
on the line could be they could be

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killed for treason, for their beliefs, and for what they were doing at

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the time. And if you forget
all of those things, all those parts

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of the very freedom that you enjoy
today, it stops having preciousness, it

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stops having value. Now it's just
well, it's the way it is.

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This is you know, like the
child who if the child thinks, well,

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food on the tables free, my
clothes are free. All these things

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that I have in my life,
the cable bill, the lights and electricity,

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the phone bill, the cell phones, the gadgetry, all these things

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in life are free. You just
put stuff out in the front yard and

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it gets picked up by the garbage
man for free. If all these ideas

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and things that you experience in life, if you have the mind of a

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child and think they're all free,
then you'll grow up to a very very

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stark reality one day. So as
an adult, now you two should be

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looking at all the things that you
enjoy, everything you experience, knowing that,

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regardless of what it is in your
life or the things that you're experiencing,

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or the freedoms you have, that
everything everything you see, touch,

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or come in contact with has been
paid for. And if not by you,

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trust me, it's been paid for
by someone. Jeff, Welcome to

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the Jesus Christ Show. What a
blessing to have you in my life.

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How interesting you're talking about imitating you. And I'm part of a men's group

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that we're looking at how men can
imitate you. And well, one of

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the books we're looking at a Song
of Solomon, and a lot like old

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school kind of commentators talk about it
as a relationship between you and mankind,

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and then others talk about it as
being between actually men and women. And

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maybe you could help help help me
out with that, Sure, I would

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say, off the bat Jeff that
that it doesn't have to be a dilemma.

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It doesn't have to be either,
or it can be both hand,

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meaning that it can help you understand
how you should be with a woman and

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help you understand how you should be
with God. The entirety of Scripture,

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I would say, lends itself to
that as well. There are truths that

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can be learned that can be applied
to any relationship because the basic tenets of

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a relationship, whether it's male and
female or whether it's person and God,

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they do go hand in hand.
I will say that the controversy in quotes

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that that you might see with scholars
throughout the years is whether this is fictional,

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whether it's some sort of allegory or
those types of things, Because in

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Scripture there are times where you'll come
across an allegorical use of marriage or relationships,

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right, dealing with the church and
the church being the bride and so

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on. Right, But those are
specifically pointed out, are they not?

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They are pointed to and and kind
of highlighted as, hey, this isn't

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This is an illustration that we're using
to help you understand based on things that

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you experience on earth, things that
you will future in the future experience in

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heaven. Well, that doesn't happen
here. As you go through song Solomon,

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there's nothing that says this is an
allegory or this is an illustration.

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So the easiest way to understand it
is that it's exactly what it is,

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a poem from Solomon to a beloved, and that in that you can find

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the truths of any relationship or the
importance of treating one another with respect and

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understanding one another, just like you
know, just like Solomon did here.

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So I think it could be used
for both. I think the first premise

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is probably a good way to understand
the Son of Solomon. First to let

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it be a guide to how you
are to treat your beloved. It's really

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quite beautiful and very intense the relationship
that's going on here. And then also

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to understand the the principles that are
used in everyday relationships are also principles that

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can be used in your bonding or
growing with God and how you interact with

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God. So, although there's you
know, scholastic or kind of in the

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house academic debates going back and forth
whether it's you know, historical, whether

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it's allegorical, or whether it's fictional, the factory, that the truth that

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are taught in there can be applied
to both your intimate relationship with your spouse

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or the intimate relationship with your God. We only had a couple of minutes

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to talk with Jeff about the Song
of Solomon, or what is referred to

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as the Song of Songs as well. But the beauty of this if you

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haven't read it in some time,
and the intensity of it is so impassioned

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and powerful that it's my hope that
couples that are married take the time to

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read this every now and then together, or if they read it apart,

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if you choose to do so,
that you use it to remind you of

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the importance of passion and the pursuit
of your beloved. There's there's something in

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culture that makes that kind of tells
you that you pursue someone and then you

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get married, and that marriage is
kind of the finality of that pursuit.

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And that's a shame because it's not
the truth. Courting is not just that

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which takes place prior to marriage,
but it's a lifetime and that the words

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in the Song Solomon that talk about
that passion and that that yearning for someone.

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Chapter one, verse four, it
says, draw me after you and

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let us run together. How beautiful
is that? It's a this, this

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adult game, and not like the
game that you hear about being played in

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clubs of America where people are trying
to manipulate or twist each other into being

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with them. But the playfulness,
the childlikeness of I like you, you

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like me, and let's run together, make me want to chase you is

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such a beautiful thought. And I'm
saddened sometimes by the reality that often that

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marriage marker seems to be the finish
line and not the starting line that it's

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designed to be. That it's as
if you use all of your energy to

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run towards that. And this pertains
to you if you're not in a relationship,

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and it pertains to you if you
are in a relationship, and it

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pertains to you if you're married.
But marriage is not the finish line.

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It's not that point where you see
the immediate drop in desire and propulsion like

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you do with a racer. Maybe
you're watching the Olympics and the marathon and

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the track stars running well, sometimes
when they hit that finish line, you

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see them immediately drop their speed,
their arms fall to their side. That

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look, that desire, that passionate
intensity that propels them to the finish line

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gone because they're done with that race. When it comes to your relationship with

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your spouse, I don't want you
to get to that place where you tire.

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It's almost as if a couple that
gets married looks at one another and

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says, Okay, we did it. You caught me, I caught you.

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We're all done, and I'll be
in the dead. Well, okay,

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I'll be by the TV. And
when you read the Song of Solomon

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and the passion of intensity and the
sheer desire to pursue, it's a great

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reminder. It's a great reminder that
that is to be a part of your

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everyday interaction, to pursue one another, to be reminded of how wonderful it

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is to be somebody and that they
are your beloved, and that you're you're

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tied to them emotionally, physically,
intellectually, spiritually. And as you read

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through the Song of Solomon and you
hear the words of that passion and intensity,

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that nothing, nothing on the planet
could quench that fire. I want

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it to remind you of the first
steps in your relationship, the dating,

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the sweaty palms, the nervousness,
the excitement of being wanted and wanting somebody,

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those are amazing things. Passion is
wonderful. You see, for everything

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that is good, for everything that
is God breathed, God given, there

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is a version, a perversion of
it that the world uses. The world

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lands on lust. But I'm not
talking about lust. I'm talking about deep,

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intense and pure passion. And that
doesn't have to leave that that doesn't

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have to be absent from any marriage, young or old. Things will change,

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sure, and as you build a
family or you bring children into the

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equation and you know, multiple jobs
and everything else. I realize that things

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do change, But the love shouldn't. You should still look upon your bride

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men as the most wonderful creature that
you have the pleasure to be in the

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company of, and women, you
should look towards your man the same way,

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and in that, in that balance, in that bond, you will

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only be strengthened. It's too often
that that gattitude of finality or doneness at

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the point of marriage or any level
of commitment becomes kind of like oh boy,

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wow, I guess we're done.
Men are hunters and continue to to

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fight after you until you're considered I
suppose. But really that's just the beginning.

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Me say, I do the adventure
should begin. What saddens me sometimes

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is, and this is something that
falls definitely upon the man. The man

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tends to make the woman the adventure. Women aren't the adventure. Women should

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be your partners in the adventure,
not the adventure itself. Sometimes when you

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set your eyes on that and the
woman becomes the adventure, then the man

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stops at the point of marriage because
now the adventures over. But that's not

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the case. It begins with the
coupling and the partnership, and now you

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have someone to share those things with. The Song of Solomon has often been

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joked about as being just a very
intense book because it does deal with sex

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and the intensity of passion and love
and that yearning in a way that unfortunately

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the Church doesn't doesn't talk about too
much. You don't get a whole lot

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taught from the Song of Solomon.
I think the church prefers to be,

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you know, focusing on the things
that seem much more academic. But I'm

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telling you, the entirety of Scripture
is about relationships, how you are to

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treat one another, and how you
are to treat your God. And the

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Song of Solomon. I'm so glad
that Jeff brought it up today because the

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importance of it is vast. It
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to love one another in the most
intense way, and also to understand your

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God. Your God loves you so
much that he created passion, that he

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created love, that he created opportunities
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those things. And I bring it
to you this morning to look at to

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look at it just a little differently, the relationship you have, and if

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you're not in one, the blessing
that is as you prepare, as you

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are readied for a good one,
a healthy one, and if you live

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inside those walls of marriage. Today, I want you to think about the

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ways that you can reignite those passions, and that to spend time reading the

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Song of Solomon. It's a quick
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help you see the importance of that
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the importance of having intimacy. Brenda, Welcome to the Jesus Christ saw good

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morning. Hither my question is does
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his word or does he still speak
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Well, all those things can take
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they've stopped taking place. And in
scripture you'll read that, yes, people

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received information from God in prayer,
during times of prayer, during times of

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sleep, being seeing in a dream
or being awoken, that prophets can speak,

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a mouth breathed the words of God. So it's not just scripture.

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However, scripture will be the standard
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of those things are very subjective,
so you have to test them against scripture

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to know if it is of God
or if it's just that you ate too

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late before you went to bed or
whatever. So you have to the subject

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of an objective truth. It's important
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a feeling or an experience, because
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It's about putting those experiences against the
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hold water or they withstand the scrutiny
of scripture. They can't contradict or change

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scripture. In any way. They
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has already told you not to do
those types of things. That makes sense,

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Okay, is there Did you have
a personal experience or are you just

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curious academically? Well, um,
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Um. I UM was at church
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and it was an intense discussion because
UM, some of the people during

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the Bible study had a real problem
as myself. I had a problem with

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accepting that God didn't speak to people
through dreams and visions anymore. And UM

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we were told that, Um,
God did that in the Old Testament only

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because there was no Bible available to
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But um, after after Jesus came
UM. In the Book of Acts,

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Uh, Antonius had a dream,
Paul had absolutely and UM in the

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Book of Revelations, John has several, um, you know, visions and

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dreams. Well, the entirety of
the book is just that visions. Yea.

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And it just kind of made me
feel bad because I mean, in

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the past, I've had some personal
experiences and they describe people like myself as

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probably kind of mixed up in the
mind. And it just made me not

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doubt myself, because you can't doubt
certain things. Certain things there's just no

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one, you know. But there's
health in questioning them. Scripture says,

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test all things, hold fast to
that which is true, not hold fast

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to everything. So it's a matter
of testing these things. Your teachers is

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partially right. There are differences in
the way things were taught in what is

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referred to as the Old Testament because
of the difference in necessity that there wasn't

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written word, but I accepted.
But that doesn't mean that there's never a

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use for it, or that it
didn't take place. And obviously we cited

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some this morning that are in the
New Testament. And I thought about the

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scripture in the Book of Joel.
I think it's Joe where it says your

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old men will dream dreams, and
you know I can't. I'm not I

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know I'm not quoting it correctly.
Your young men will see visions. And

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you know, it's just that so
much in the church is taught from the

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Old Testament, like tiding and things
like that, and when someone says,

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well it doesn't count anymore, it's
just brought some confusion. Yeah, that's

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not fair. Ever, there are
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after my death on the cross and
my resurrection, there are some things that

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definitely change from the Old Testament to
the New Testament. Definitely. But as

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I said in scripture, I didn't
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fulfill it. So anybody who says, oh, yeah, that's the Old

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Testament, that's that's a cop out. Um, there isn't absolute importance,

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and it shows you from where you
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prior. There are some different and
there are some things that have changed in

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the way, you know, just
the structure of the church and everything else,

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because you're dealing with Judaism versus Christianity
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uh. And I say that as
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but they need to be understood in
light of one another. And everything

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that experientially that you come in contact
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So is it used the same way
and all over the place. No,

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it's not. The necessity is different. He's right, but it doesn't mean

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that it doesn't exist. That doesn't
make sense at all. Kfi Ami on demand