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I'm joined today by Christopher Bedford. Chris, thank you for stopping by the
show on such a busy week. It is a busy week. It's a
busy house. I mean you might hear some background noise. I'm not alone.
There's also a dishwasher and a washing machine, and three animals. Well
I might fight each other at any moment. At least you're cleaning the dishes.
That's the good news. Another good news. But I'm I'm a winner.
Good work, Chris. All right, so we're recording this on Wednesday,
as we've had, you know, not quite twenty four hours to process
the results of the off year election that happened on Tuesday. Now, Chris,
I was not even slightly surprised by a single state result that came out
of last night. I don't think I was particularly surprised by any of the
margins. I mean, I expected Republicans to underperform. What did you make?
Where is that? It was disappointing night for a couple of reasons.
I think basically, I was gonna say, I think basically it's important for
both of us to explain why we were right. Okay, sure, I'm
getting I'm kidding Virginia. Well, I mean, it was generally just a
summer of an evening, but there I no excitement was expected. The only
thing that really sticks with me is Ohio which pass an absolutely disgusting death bill
or an amendment to the constitution. That it makes me wonder a number of
the fifty seven percent of voters who supported the amendment of the Issue number one
for the Ohio Constitution may have had no idea quite what they were voting for.
The Issue number one wrapped itself in the language of civil rights and talked
about health and choice and doctor's understandings of things and rights and all this and
that. And Ohio's pastors who have a outsized voice compared to a lot of
other states. There's a lot of religious practices in Ohio were silent on the
issue. They were not talking about it, which is pathetic cowardly. But
there's got to be a sizeable corporate, a sizeable part of the voters of
Ohio that has said, yeah, I think that I would like to have
abortion as an option until birth. I would like parents taken out of the
equation for underage their underage daughters getting an abortion. And I don't think the
parents should be able to get involved with hormone treatment for children. And I
would like this to be part of my state's constitution. I mean, Bato
Sodoma gomoron an apology at this point, like, hey, I'm sorry,
I'm always your parents are always harder on the elders than they are on the
younger siblings. It's just it's it's dreadful. And I know that a lot
of different tactics for you is we talked about the civil rights stuff, which,
by the way, the right should copy. There's a lot of different
things that the right could set up or that not just on hodifying the state
constitutions with airy fairy language, things that protect life. You'd have to get
some buy in from the pro life movement to say, hey, we're going
to set this in fifteen weeks or whatever. We're gonna put in line with
Europe somewhere between twelve and fourteen weeks Western Europe. But there was also the
Democrats really high this tactic in Colorado and have since repeated it successfully all over
the country where they get They put a popular ballot measures with the youths,
with people who might otherwise be very informed voters. On the ballots. They
had Issue number two was legalizing marijuana, which I guess for the Ohioans that
have never been to a state that's le marijuana still sounds like a good idea
to them, as if police funny. I haven't seen the survey of people
who changed their opinion post legalization. I'm actually really curious now that you mentioned
that. I haven't thought of that before. I mean, it's it's nothing
that the legalizers of promise has come true. The revenues are far below,
the cartels have expanded, the other drug crimes have prooriphorated dramatically, and city
life has become worse. I mean, it's kind of like the guy who
invented the cotton gin and said we don't need to have slaves anymore, right,
and it's like we can afford a whole lot of persal lives now just
backfires. It didn't lead to any of the promises that were go for,
but Ohioso voted for it. What was interesting is that fifty fifty seven percent
of those voters backed the marijuana amendment or issue excuse me, and then fifty
seven percent backed death bill. And there's got to be a connection between that
turnout. But now, I mean, they've they've got in the constitution.
That was the point Kentucky was kind of expected. We talked to us about
it, talked to us about the McConnell factor in Kentucky. That was one
of the first things Sean Davis tweeted that. He said, you know,
McConnell's last he checked it real clear, was like negative thirty nine favorability rating.
He was one of He is actually by these accounts, by some of
this this polling, the single most unpopular politician in America. Sean went and
found a bunch of headlines that directly tied Daniel Cameron, who was a McConnell
aid, to Mitch McConnell. So to some extpt voters. We're seeing this,
how heavily do you think that influenced the decisions some of those voters made?
Love Sean, I'm going on the Ingram angle. I think with him
tonight. I might have just gotten myself canceled from it with a snoody response.
But I don't think people went in there and like saw this thirty seven
year old charismatics attorney general and said no because McConnell. It's like they didn't
really go in there and see Andy Basheer, this forty six year old son
of a former governor, and say no because of Joe Biden. It's finding
Republican's best efforts to do so. Butchers has popularity. Another way that Youngkin
has popularity in Virginia, they are members of the opposing party that aren't able
to do anything. Actually, young Kin could do a lot more because it
least until January, he had control of the Republican Senate. I say Senate
and control the House. He couldn't pass that much. The governor of Kentucky.
It's not a particularly powerful position in the first place, and Republicans have
veto proof majorities in the legislature. They can do whatever they want regardless.
So he's he's got name recognition from back when Kentucky was a Democratic state,
or at least leaned a lot more like that. And he's painting himself as
a moderate. I don't think sim of his positions are particularly moderate, but
he's done that and he hasn't really done anything negative, and he's right because
of that, is just very popular in the state. And it was a
hard election to run against him. They ran a good campaign, but in
the day the Republican legislators running for re election in Kentucky beat the governor's ticket.
He tried the governor's ticket to trail it well, and they were also
outspent. So again, when we're talking about these spending numbers, I'm looking
at ad impact. So they by their calculations. In the Kentucky governor race,
Democrat spent forty seven point eight million, Republicans spent twenty nine point two
million. That's not a close margin at all. On issue one it was
twenty four point four million to sixteen point three million. That is again not
a close margin of spending at all. That means when you have this especially,
I mean it's kind of reversed in Kentucky, you have a red state,
but in Ohio you have a fairly red state where public opinion on abortion.
A lot of conservatives feel comfortable in Ohio. They don't feel comfortable after
Dobbs, and so you have Democrats blanketing the airwaves with you know, misleading
at best, false narratives. One thing I think it's always worth mentioning with
Issue one is that even the Toledo Blade published an editorial, not just like
a random opinion column, but an editorial saying, we is the Toledo Blade
support quote a women's right to choose, and we think Issue one is overly
broad and detrimental. It actually is a really poorly written Even if you're you
know, ardently pro choice, you're going to be glad about this, but
just the way that they wrote it was ridiculous. And I think it will
have ramifications outside of just a abortion clearly. But when you have all of
those factors and then you let Dems outspend you on an insane level, conservative
donors don't want to pitch in. Clergy doesn't want to pitch in. Governor
DeWine came in sort of late on the issue. A lot of pro lifers
feel it just was. It seems to me, Chris, like we're a
year and a half post Dobbs. Now roughly what did they think was going
to happen? I mean, the pro lifers tried to get the constitutional amendment
threshold moved up to sixty percent precisely because they you know, it ended up
at fifty seven percent. It would not have won if they had won that
August ballot measure. But they always knew that it was it was probably going
to be upwards of fifty percent. It's really dangerous to have a constitutional amendment
that can go through a majority. I mean usually have a simple majority for
the least important decisions like congressman or somebod who's there. So that's a few
short years. Yeah, the Democrats outspent Republicans in Kentucky where they won,
and in Virginia where they won, in Ohio where they won, and that's
certainly got a big part to plant and different people didn't step up at the
right time. I was actually like kind of I was surprised to see our
bishop and Arlington, Virginia so signed a letter with the Bishop of Richmond telling
faithful Catholics, Hey, I know that people go to the ballots with a
lot of different issues and a lot different things they care about, but not
all issues are equal. And the Gothic Church teaches that life is paramount,
and Catholics are called and expected to vote against evil. In the selection,
it was the Democrats have gotten so extreme on a lot of In Virginia,
there was no issue won. It was the governor had promised that if he
had the legislature, he would pass a fifteen week abortion ban, and that
was enough to make generally a political Bishops could often say to vote against evil.
Do this unfortunately didn't translate down to the pulpit in a lot of different
places, the parish priests. Most people don't read letters from the bishop.
Facebook Etholics, even if you're even if you're going to church every Sunday and
every Holy Day and you're donating, you're not always going to get that letter.
So not everyone is as special and well informed as Christopher Bedford. Well,
I get their press releases. That's how I said. I didn't.
It wasn't talked about, and I'm part of a fairly conservative church, but
it was not talked about, so uh, there was there was. There's
some people who have pushed in the right direction. But it's just a hard
fight, and I think Republicas need to be more careful in the language and
also they need to hit differently in their advertisement. I mean, if you
look, so, the Democrats in Kentucky and Virginia had some really pwinying advertisements
out. Some of them said they had victims of rape from older members of
their family stepfathers or fathers, staring direct way into the camera pointing the finger
at Republicans. These are real people. I just saw their Republican ads and
it was like a horny actor who looked like a dad from a sitcom wearing
a burglar mask, being like, I'm able to burgle your house because this
Carterman's Week on Crime. And it's like, well, real examples do abound.
Why not talk to the parents of the girl who was executed in the
park in Fairfax. Why not talk to victims of MS thirteen rape and violence?
Why not talk to people who were assaulted or murdered or robbed. I
guess you can't talk to the murder victims robbed by people who'd been released by
Soros prosecutors. Like, if you want to do tough on crime stuff,
then you have to have tough messaging. Yeah, I feel like a lot
a lot of Republican messaging just wasn't going on those heartsts. It wasn't hard
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an interesting DA race over in Allegheny County where the guy who would originally run
as a Democrat against a sort of soft on crime prosecutor someonhen he framed as
a soft on crime prosecutor actually ended up running as a Republican after he lost
the primary and beat the other Democrat on a sort of tough on crime from
a tough on crime position. And Chris, that brings me to my next
question, which is, you know, was this all bad for Republicans.
I still have this take from last year in the midterms that there was the
media's narrative was redwave. You know, they want the excitement of a red
wave, and then it was suddenly like Republicans got routed. Republicans are just
you know, the everyone now knows the Republicans are crazy bigots, they're you
know, blah blah blah, and it's it's easy for you and I,
I mean, we're constantly critical of the Republican Party. I feel like,
you know, my primary existence in life is to criticize the Republican Party for
doing such a disservice to conservatism so often. But then at the same time,
you know, it was Virginia is a blue state. We think of
Virginia as sort of a swing state. Virginia is a freaking blue state that
glen to be a parpal state. And whatever is exciting people at the moment
can change it. So critical race there is exciting people, then you end
up with the Republicans doing well. And the ability to abort your children at
sixteen weeks is what excites you. Blows my mind, by the way,
And like any husband can tell you this or a member of a family,
how obvious it is when a woman is twelve weeks pregnant or thirteen weeks pregnant,
fourteen weeks pregnant. It's been like months of them acting insane and feeling
physically ill. It's like this whole thing, like sixteen weeks fifteen weeks.
It's like what they don't know talking about you don't know, you haven't had
here anyways. I don't think we need to get into that because also that
is different for everyone, and I just don't see you as the authority.
I'm sorry, Gus Well definitely not on that sometimes. Sorry, Emily.
As a woman, you're not allowed to speak to men's experiences of living with
women, your lived experience. No, you're I shouldn't have done that,
and I apologize, and I hope that. Yeah, this center my experience.
It's a dark place where a light for the GOP is that a Democrat
won the Alleghany County attorney or attorney generally also didn't lose the Mississippi governorship,
which a lot of the lever No. I mean I saw, like I
know, obviously it was never gonna happen, but there was so called mainstream
media credits coverage saying this could be it, this could be the The media
always says that I picked something like Ted Cruz is going to get toppled by
Whiffle Boy or something and it just never happens, or Pink Shoe Lady is
going to turn Hex's blue or uh but there was some good stuff. I
mean, Loudon County, Uh Soros prosecutor Buddha was was booted. That was
nice. Broom County, New York, lass A I think his name is
Matt Ryan Sorows backed prosecutor was was knocked out. You know, Virginia,
despite like glosses, the Falcons did admirably. I mean, Virginia went pretty
strongly for Joe Biden for president. Republicans won every ingle district in Virginia where
Joe Biden won by less than ten points, so a single digit win by
Joe Biden. They hailed every single place that voted for Donald Trump, and
they needed to I think, get one Senate seat in a place where he
had won by double digits and two House seats in a place where he'd won
Biden had won by double digits, and they weren't able to get get it
all together. So they're very close maybe in two years time, having a
four years time, having a trifecta of Republican control and a safety you could
fairly we could argue whether it's purple or blue. But that's not terrible,
and I mean, I know it's like a disappointment to the mega downers out
there who really hate Trump and thought that if young thing could just win this
election, then Trump wouldn't be the nominee. It's like, very m dumb,
Well, where do you stand in this? I actually also I am
curious where you're standing on this Trump question, because I definitely saw people people
floating this idea that you know Trump. There were differing points on this,
you know. Patrick Grafeni had a different point than some like people in the
activist space on what it means to have Trump at the top of the ticket
for Republicans, What it means for a Republican party that sort of goes full
Trump that let's say you had candidates, let's say Daniel Cameron went full Trump.
Is that what puts him over the edge against Bashir? What do you
make of that? The Trump factor in off your elections here? I don't
really know what to make of it. Cool and I've seen his proponents being
like, this is proof that you only win when Trump is here. And
I've seen other people saying like this is proof that if they hadn't gotten so
clo cosey with Trump and done these endorsements, then GP would have the governorship
of Kentucky, and I don't really see enough facts there to draw definitive conclusion,
but I will say that while reading the court transforms back and forth between
Trump and the judge in New York made me think, man, he's still
got it when he's just going on about how Aberdeen's the most beautiful place in
the world. They've got phenomenal fossil fields, they got great oil fields out
there. So I have some big plans maybe from of old mayble to do
a very smart thing, and the judges like, shut up this yelling at
him. It was kind of annoying just to do a quick side tangent that
all of the coverage of drums days in court in New York have been about
like, oh, look at this back and forth between him and the judge,
as opposed to how the hell did a prosecutor who's so partisan that they're
leading chance of lock him up managed to break through the statute of limitations with
a totally bs claim that well, the crime is old, there's new evidence,
so there isn't and charge the leading candidate for the GOP nomination with a
crime that had no complainants and no victims. It's like that should be like
the source of the coverage. But I guess I will take them back and
forth. It's kind of nice and a dark day to have something there just
making fun of a judge and driving them nuts. Well, and I have
to say, as somebody who is so very open to the idea that Donald
Trump is a serial white collar criminal, as he's basically you know, explained
in public in different ways at this point, it's such a libs, such
a lib h. Every time I look into these judges on the cases,
my jaw drops. It's just like these people have been so I guess unprofessional
is the word in like, really judge day, Well, it looks like
a fruit basket. The brow tie, the bow tie is just a but
a symbol, Chris, of the mental h ideology governing this man's like judicial
they did he ride his unicycle to work? Yeah, it's just yeah.
I mean, you're calling him a clown and that seems apt in this case.
And there's just zero you hear nothing about it in the press. And
every time, like again, as somebody who in these stories, I'm like,
okay, well, you know, is he probably misrepresenting assets? Sure?
Is it illegal? Sure? Is everybody in New York real estate doing
that. Sure, but I look at him on a basis of real estate
in general. My mind is so very open to this possibility. And then
I start digging into the cases and I'm like, oh my gosh, this
in normal times, this is the headline, Like this stuff is insane.
And the worst for Democrats is they're too stupid to know it's going to backfire.
I mean, they did this in twenty sixteen. They tried to boost
Trump because they thought, surely one of the things is so popular. The
buyern York had a good point that is kind of just based on a really
bad law, the New York ty In generally that there is no victim.
I mean it's so let's say he's totally guilty, and we all know the
victim, taxpayers, the victim or some I mean yeah, like Donald Trump
routinely inflates everything that's like kind of a stick. But everyone was paid back,
like the loan was paid. There's no victim. It's like, what
are you are you prosecuting? It's not even an astatus of limitations. I
just don't know one's talking about it. What other elections can we talk about?
I guess we have Ohio, very sad, tangent, really awful.
Yeah, well so, I mean one thing that I wanted to ask you
you will, Yeah, one thing I wanted to ask you, though,
Chris is As I was thinking about this today, I was like, there's
there's actually kind of a disconnect here. I was thinking about this in the
context of Rashida Talib, and this is going to be controversial and make people
mad. But on the question of censoring Rashida Tsalib, which happened on Tuesday
night, a couple of Republicans didn't vote to center her, most did,
and a couple of Democrats I think twenty two Democrats joined with the Republicans in
censuring Rashida Talib over a video she posted that included a chant of the Ripper
to the Sea, which is essentially a call from an erratic for an eradication
of Israel, which people then will say is a call for genocide. Racheated
till you tried to say, of course, that's not what I mean,
et cetera, et cetera. You know, I don't want to give her
the benefit of the doubt at this point, but what I will say,
she does exactly what she means it's not a dog whistle, it's open.
Yeah. I think that's your ears. What I'm thinking though, as I
was considering this, I was like, this woman is elected to represent the
people of Dearborn Heights and a heavily Muslim area where we saw or terrorists,
then the representative should represent the terrorists. That's exactly what I'm saying, because
the broader problem is that the United States has allowed people who have a bitter
hatred of the West to basically pick at its carcass uh and to enjoy all
of its fruits while poisoning it from within. And while you know, trying
to say we need to fight for X, Y and Z priorities, blah
blah blah, we don't believe that in American exceptionalism. We're not going to
vote for people who believe in American exceptions and we're going to elect people like
Rashida to leave, et cetera, et cetera. I actually think with this
is going to sound again like a crazy connection with a portion. Republicans will
say, we just need to spend more money, we just need better messaging.
But they also say, and rightfully so, what happens when we send
millions of students through the filter of higher education for decades. Wow, can
you imagine? Can you imagine how liberal, how Marxist these students are going
to be. Well, it's not twenty twenty three, and we've gone through
twenty twenty, the summer of twenty twenty, the entire year of twenty twenty.
The people of Kenosha can tell you how liberal those students are going to
be. And I just think, at what point do Republicans recognize that these
policies are are not popular. There isn't an election oral trick. There is
an electoral magic that's going to get the pro life cause elected or make it
helpful on the ballot. When people actually are are hostile to these causes,
that means really that the initiative has to be persuasion and then you can sort
of start to expect electoral returns. I thought we were talking about Moss.
Well we were, but then I moved to a I'm from Lost. Now
the question Republican positions, conservative positions are unpopular because the to what extent here's
my question, people Dearborn Michigan are very conservative. Well, it depends that
short lived the Lions, like the Republicans like, man, we're really close
with all these Muslim Muslim immigrant parents on parental rights and LGBTQ stuff in schools,
and it's like we're a happy family. And then this, I mean,
they were fighting teachers unions. They were fighting the teachers unions on the
crazy books. And by the way, I don't think that's going to be
fundamental device. Well, of course, I don't think that's going to go
anywhere. I don't think it means that they're gonna start voting for Republicans.
But I do think it means that you're gonna have a whole lot of problems
if you're trying to teach gender queer in dearborn. But seriously, Chris,
I mean, we have at what point do we say the liberal takeover of
America has happened? Like this country is no longer a country. It's not
two thousand and eight. You don't just have to message abortion right because the
country after Roe fell, it was sort of fertile ground for the left to
come in and say, yeah, well, they have to contend with some
things, to contend with some realities. Abortion has not. There's all these
abortionists out there like waving their head and be like see see, if only
you'd always run on a boarding babies, the Democratic Party would be trumphant.
That's not really true, Like Democratic candidates were losing on when they made abortion
a central issue until Dobs essentially, and even those Democrats Medaglaciers pointed us out
in his earlier today, even those Democrats that turned out to be correct,
who said, hey, if you don't vote for a vote against me is
a vote for repealing jobs. And like I just was recurrent. It's still
it didn't help them even when it seemed close. But now now it is
a motivating issue for people because there's suddenly somebody that their state legislators can control.
And the pro life movement has to contend with the reality that most Americans
are comfortable with abortion in the first trimester, like the majority of Americans are.
There's a lot of persuasion that needs to go into that. But I
mean a lot of the pro life movement. Yeah, the pro life movement
is young, the pro life movement is vibrant, But the pro life movement
in some ways had become like a kid's parade. That's cool, it's nice,
it's nice to go see it. But it was unprepared for the end
persuasion and the hard knuckle politics that were necessary and to throw the money around.
The money is completely absent because Democrat donors are completely united against life and
Republican donors don't really care about it. They want to keep the good times
rolling. It's the base that doesn't. But they have to contend with that.
And the Product movement has really shot themselves in the foot in a couple
of places, like in Michigan, where I believe that it's murder at one
month, I believe it's murder. At two months, I believe it's murder
at three months. The American people don't support my position. So I have
to choose something, and I believe it's murder in the case of rape.
Yeah, and the republic the American people have to, the Republicans have to,
the Conservatives, the Product movement has to choose something. In the American
voter, there's in charge of the costensibly in charge of the country that we
live in. It's comfortable with the American voter basically across the board demands exceptions.
If Ohio hadn't been so ardent in pushing a bill that was pushes in
the No exceptions, Bill, I think it's misrepresented. Then I would have
kept a lot more Republican support. Maybe that number wouldn't would still have passed,
but it wouldn't have been fifty seven percent. People get uncomfortable with that
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part of what I've been thinking about also in last my fars and I feel
like you're I'm not saying that I'm right on this. I'm just floating kind
of theories and desperate thoughts. But one of those disparate thoughts was that Republicans
for years doing the kind of Mitt Romney answer on exceptions. It's popular with
the American people, but does it also poison the pro life cause because it
seeds like if you really believe it's a human life, then what do you
mean or there are exceptions? Is that something that plants a seed in the
minds of you know, politically generally disengaged or mildly engaged people that or rebobably,
I actually believe this right, they don't actually believe it's that's the worry.
I mean, I can't remember. I'm going to get the numbers a
little bit wrong. But in Michigan you had a potentially popular push to get
an abortion restrictions on and the pro life groups threatened to primary Republicans who voted
for I think it was like a fifteen week ban or something, just so
that there's not enough. But you lose credit, you lose A front of
ours described it as this, if you really believe that abortion is murdered,
you and I do, and you know there are ten babies in the attic
of a burning house and you can run up there and save six. Are
you going to say, no, I need to save them all, or
either I save them all or I save none of them. Get that fifteen
weeks or something on the books, and then work from there, use the
language of the civil rights, try to get these amendments in there, and
then work from there change hearts and minds. The American people are not with
us. I mean, the average person is not going to say, they're
going to say, of course I'm not for this, of course I'm not
for that. Of course I'm not for this crazy democratic thing. But they
don't actually associate those decisions with the Democrats, and they don't actually realize sometimes
what they're voting for. And there's a decent constituency of Americans, not decent,
but a large number the people who think it's moortion is great. I
have you noticed the shit? Yes, absolutely, and they believe hamas is
great. I mean I shouldn't sayfe of the mother to health of the mother,
yes, something that's in the Ohio, that's the Ohio thing. Yes,
and it's life of the mother is very clear. It's a clear distinction,
uh, health of the other. I mean we're in an age for
medical procedures and suicide. Suicide is allowed in Canada if your mental health is
poor, your economic health is poor. Yep. So health of the mother
means on demand yep. Today. And that's been a shift that I've seen,
and the right's been failing to box back. And unfortunately the right's going
to have to make a decision that we're only to save six out of ten
babies as opposed to none, because the voter is simply not at this point,
and I hope to change that. Behind behind the Catholic Church's position,
which is no abortion perious. It's incredibly daunting, and I think it's you
know a lot of different things. You know. Some people will say it's
because Demps have a as Molly Hemingway is documented and rigged like an incredible get
on the vote mail in ballot about harvesting operation that dwarfs what Republicans have,
and Republicans are playing catch up. Some people will say the same with online
fundraising and small dollar fundraising. Some people will right fully point out that,
you know, conservative donors need to step up because live donors are incredibly motivated
and they're increasingly like ultural wealthy. There aren't a whole lot of pro life
ultra wealthy people, and certainly not political donors, so there are I mean,
there are a lot of factors here. I do think last night,
as we're talking on Wednesday, was more complicated than the media is making it
out to be. But I also think Chris, it is at some point
it's time to sort of understand that the prediction the Republican the conservative prediction that
was made and got up man at Yale, God and man at Yale,
and you know, in the decades since was accurate. It was right,
and that's come to pass. And there's there are arguments that are going to
be need to be made at a much much much deeper, longer term level.
Well, we need to smashblies, need to step up and smash the
university systems, bold callers, not pale pastels. Yeah, and the creatures
and the clergy you need to step about. And Vince and I were talking
about this earlier on w n A L the it's it's it's totally normal and
white Catholics and Protestants feel terrified at the idea of a candidate speaking at their
church. Were talking about politics and the pulpit, probably as a result of
civil rights and things like that. The black churches do not the times.
A lot of those black churches are not really voting for the GOP. So
there's like there's a there's a courageousness and talking about the issues that they think
will impact their their parishioners. That is lacking. And a lot of other
kind of more maybe more conservative Republican leaning churches and ought to be. These
are issues that are important. It should be talked about by pastors and priests,
and dare the I R s to come at them and then try to
defund, try to take away the taxing status of the Catholic churches or the
Lutheran churches that are willing to speak out on this. I think that we
need some more courageousness because he's I mean, Ohio shows we are living in
arch times. We already knew that. We talked about that a lot,
but that was really dark. It's just part of a eight constant should now
not not some awful Supreme Court decision that our politicians are too afraid to take
down, but the constitution that's that should be a wake up call and hit
these issues hard, talk about them the way that Donald Trump talked about it
when he put Hillary Clinton on the defensive in Las Vegas train. The candidates
raise the money and be willing to compromise. I mean, it's ugly,
but it's true compromise. You're ugly? No response, Yeah that's right,
I got you ugly twice? Yeah ugly? Oh well, you know,
I have to look at myself in the mirror every day. It's a heavy
burden. Rub it in. You're already dealing with enough, all right.
Christopher Bedford, Executive editor over at the Common Sense Society, Thank you as
always for joining us, and thanks for your election breakdown too. Are you
you've been listening to another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emili Jrshinsky,
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