W Garry Jeff Walker sitting down, check and end for this February six,
twenty twenty four. Good to view this. Some news notes from today from
the Babylon b one of my favorite news sources of satire and political tumor.
New Senate anti murder bill caps murders at five thousand per day. You see
what they're doing there right? In a landmark compromise between Democrats and Republicans,
the Senators set to vote on a new anti murder bill that will limit the
allowed murders to only five thousand per day. The bill will also send sixty
billion to Ukraine, fifteen billion to Israel, and another one hundred billion to
Iran. Democrats wanted more murder, and we wanted less. We feel this
is a reasonable compromise, said Senator Mitch McConnell to reporters before staring blankly at
the cameras for ten minutes straight. Every day, once we hit five thousand
killings, that's it. No more killing, and we're going to be strict
to about that. Some conservatives in Congress have challenged the language and the bill,
suggesting that zero murders would be a preferable number. I don't know do
we have to have murder at all? Set of confused Ted Cruz like murderer
is bad and stuff. Maybe zero would be better number than five thousand.
Cruise was quickly condemned by every journalist on his show Mourning Joe as a shameful
partisan. At publishing time, senators had reassured their biggest pro murdered donors that
the bill wouldn't solve everything. That's unbelievable and it's so true as to this
immigration crap they tried to push through in the Senate as well, which would
legalize the invasion that is still going on on our southern border in this country.
More on that with Richard c Lyons a little bit later on tonight,
author of The DNA of Democracy and Shadows of the Acropolis. We'll also have
Dave Hatter in for a turn of tech talk, including smart toilets, our
fitness trainer, biohacker, rock O Costelano back for a Tuesday night cap,
and an hour of sports for those who are out of sorts. Wildman Walker,
and Andy Furman packed the ten o'clock hour up next. Lee watts Man,
who has been chaplain at the Kentucky State House for fifteen years. He
is a preacher and he also is a host of his own podcast called Patriot
Point. Lee Watts coming up next as we get just started. On seven
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for Super Bowl Champlain two the Kentucky State Legislature in Frankfort. He is the
the Watchful Eye of uh. He's a representative of the watchful Eye of God
on your legislatures in the Commonwealth for now fifteen years, and he joins us
as our first guest, Lee Watts, how are you this evening, sir?
I am great, Thank you for having me on tonight. So tell
me a little bit about your your personal mission when it comes to our state
legislature in the state of Kentucky, the Commonwealth, What do you what do
you? What are your what are your functions? What do you do well?
I did well. It really goes back to what I did before.
I was in the US military station overseas and God called me to be a
missionary back to my home country. And I'm from Kentucky, and I said,
well, missionaries work received Lord, and he pressed upon my heart that
the greatest mission field right now is the United States. And so come back
to Kentucky with my home state. And there was a fellow who served as
chaplain for twenty eight years and he was falling ill and needed someone to replace
him, so he trained me and I continue that. So my mission up
at the capital is really severalfold. It's first of all, to be eyes
and ears for the churches of Kentucky. We've had some bills we've seen before
in the last few years where the governor shut down churches ten days before he
tried to close anything. We've had bills in the past that affect Christian schools,
and we had a bill a few years ago that would have me make
it illegal to display at Christmas Tree because of the illegal non Christians, but
that got shot down. So I keep an eye and ear out for different
legislation that deals with religious liberty and try to spread word to the churches and
Christians across the state. And then I also try to serve as a witness
for Jesus Christ up in the capitol. I do Bible studies, I do
a lot of counseling like a pastor would, and just kind of try to
be a voice for Christ and ears and eyes for the churches. Do you
have fairly good attendance among the legislators? I mean, do you have a
lot of interest? Yes. I've been doing this again for fifteen years now,
and at some of the weekly Bible studies I do, we've had as
many as fifty plus legislators come, and considering there's only one hundred and thirty
eight of them, it can be a fairly good percentage. So we do
have Christians in office. We do have some good people up there. Now,
don't get me wrong, we do have some dirty skunks, but there
are some actually good, God fearing people up there as well. Well.
I mean, anybody can become a Christian. I mean, just look at
Saul on the road to Damascus to persecute Christians. I know that's often my
prayer for some of those who are really giving the churches a hard time,
is that they would specifically have those Damascus Road type experiences. And I'm pleased
to report that over the years of ministry up there been able to lead several
legislators and some staff members another to the Lord right there in the Capitol building,
including the former Lieutenant Governor Janeine Hanton. Now, how are how are
you? Are you compensated at all? I know you're not an employee of
the Commonwealth of Kentucky, but I mean, do you have compensation? No.
Twice during my time up here, some of different people in office had
offered to make me the official chaplain, like some other states have. I
turned it down because if the state pays you, then the state is who
you're working for, and they like to control what you say. So I
take no money from the state at all. My compensation, what I live
on in my family is from different individuals and churches across the state that support
us like a missionary on a foreign field, and that makes me answerable to
the churches and to God, and I think that's the way it should be
instead of being paid by the state. Well, it's amazing that Andy Basher
actually tried to stop church worship in the height of the COVID scare. But
yes he did. He was defeated in that legally right. A lot of
people aren't aware of that, that the court's ruled and said you never had
any authority to ever close the churches down. And it was three years later,
in the year twenty twenty three, this last year, that the ruling
came down to find him twenty five thousand dollars for violating the constitutional freedom of
religion for doing that. But of course that part didn't get a whole lot
of attention. Well we're giving it some more attention tonight, Lee. So
and so the thing, hopefully we can pun intended use this as a vaccine
and in case we ever get any governor in the future trying to close churches,
let it be known the courts have officially said they do not have that
authority. The freedom of religion and the freedom of assembly would prevent anybody from
ever closing down the churches. Well that's that's remarkable, and just need to
stay vigilant and make sure that they don't attempt it again, because that's true.
One of the things I love to do is I love to bring churches,
Sunday school classes and senior groups and churches up to the capital. And
if you'd ever like to come up, contact me and I'll bring you up,
show you around the building, and introduce you to your senator and your
representative. It's a great way for Christians to establish a relationship with those who
are making the laws. So when Lord forbid situations like this come up in
the future, they'll already have those relationship established with the people who are making
the decisions. And if any group would like to do that, I don't
charge the scent for it. Reach out to me and we can set that
up for you for free. All right, that'd be really cool. I've
never been to Frankfort, and I would love to see where the sausage is
made. Oh yes, and it is. Sometimes it's where the magic happens,
and other times where the sausage is made. And if you look through
the building, you see there'll be statues and paintings, and there are wonderful
stories of faith as why this statue is here and why this painting is here,
Kentucky actually has a very rich Christian heritage. Can you tell me a
little bit about this podcast I've seen you on this Patriot Point? Is that
what is called Patriot Point? Yes, Patriot Point is something I started during
twenty twenty when the governor started shutting down the churches and I'm like, nobody
is pushing back saying what's happening is illegal and unconstitutional, and I needless to
say, immoral and what he's doing. So I started a program called Patriot
Point each week and I try to give you the news of what is happening
in Kentucky from a conservative, Christian and constitutional point you and that you can
find that on YouTube do new programs every Friday morning. It's also on bitshoot
Rumble on about thirty radio stations across the state, and it's also on WBNATV
out of Louisville. So the Lord's really blessed that over the years to get
word out on different issues. Now, have you had any kickback as anyone
threatened to deplatform you on YouTube or anything like that. Yes, back during
the pandemic, YouTube was so bold that they sent me a notice saying that
I keep violating their standards because I was pushing back and that they will no
longer send my program to all of my subscribers, and so that is what
we call shadow banning. To shadow ban something somebody is one thing. To
have the audacity to send them a note telling them you're doing that is quite
another. But despite this, it continues to grow. We have about twelve
thousand subscribers now. On the one I suspect it might be more because when
Elon Musk bought Twitter, all of a sudden, overnight, conservative commentators had
their subscribers grow tenfold, So I'm kind of thinking we might actually have more
than twelve thousand. But that's still a pretty good sum of people who are
now getting informed and involved, and that's what we really need. Ignorance and
apathy are killing us as a nation. So this patriot Point takes about ten
minutes a week to tell you what's going on in Kentucky where you can stay
informed, and then we always tell you what you can do to make a
difference. Well, Lee, wats can I just do a quick survey of
some political points and ask you your opinion on things that are going on not
just in Kentucky but around the country. Yeah, take it for whatever you
think it's worth, but fire away, all right. So the illegal immigration
crisis, the invasion that's going on right now and has been allowed to go
on by this particular administration, where do you come down on that? And
I understand that every person is made in the image of God. I get
that, But don't you believe that we have to have real borders to be
to remain a countryle it was? President Reagan has said a country without borders
will quickly not become a country. And I always like to base all my
opinions on biblical principle. And we can see a biblical principle about this in
the Book of Nehemiah, where the Jews had been conquered, their living in
oppression, and we have a fellow named Nehemiah gets a burden to rebuild his
hometown of Jerusalem, capital of the nation. And what is the first thing
he does is he builds the wall to secure the people of Israel and have
Jerusalem. So we've got to do that, and there's a biblical principle for
that. If you actually look in the Bible that says there is a wall
that surrounds heaven, you'll notice Hell does not have a wall. So I
am all for immigration, I am against invasion. Up of the Kentucky State
Legislature, they passed a resolution just this past week supporting Governor Greg Abbott of
Texas in securing our southern border, and so I was as a heated debate,
but I was very happy to see that we had several that were supporting
him then that and that it's key if we don't support that. We had
just last year more than three hundred people who are on the FBI's terror watch
list get caught coming across the border. And there was more than three point
two million illegals that invaded across our southern border in just fiscal year twenty twenty
three. And I get those statistics from the Kentucky State Legislature who mentioned that
during the debate last week. So this is a massive invasion and it should
have been handled years ago, and I'd be all for deploying the military and
security immediately. Donald Trump should be and will be on the ballot in Kentucky
if he is the nominee of the Republican Party. There's no question about that.
These efforts to deplatform Trump on you know, really questionable questionable charges and
the like, what's your take on that? Lee, Well, I figure
this and we've seen this happen in a few leftist controlled states where they're taking
him off the ballot. That says a few different things. That says,
we know we can't defeat this guy, so the only way to do it
is to take him off the ballot. This issue is on its way to
the United States Supreme Court. I fully expect the Supreme Court to say this
is illegal as all get out, and you're not allowed to remove a candidate
from the ballot. So I would be highly opposed to that. I wouldn't
even want them to remove Joe Biden from the ballot because that's simply that's that's
as crooked as the day, as long as much grandfather used to say.
But I do expect the Supreme Court to reverse those state decisions. We should
continue our support for Israel to protect its statehood. The Bible says that in
the Book of Genesis, God is talking to Abraham. Now, you have
to be careful when you read the Old Testament because many of the promises that
are made are made specifically to the Jewish people, and we as the Church
or as Gentiles can't claim the promises that were made to the Jews. But
in the Book of Genesis we see something specifically told to us Gentiles, which
I imagine is most of your listeners, and that God talking to Abraham that
is going to be the father of the Jewish nation, and he says,
I will bless them, that bless THEE, and I will curse them that
curses thee. So by blessing the nation of is Israel, Abraham's descendants,
God says, you'll get blessings from that. So I think we definitely need
to stand with and support Israel. If you actually look on their voting history
in the UN they stand with us more than even the United Kingdom, probably
our next closest ally. So I think we will definitely get blessings for that.
And the Bible also says specifically in the Psalms that we are to pray
for the peace of Jerusalem. That wasn't a suggestion, that's a command.
So I highly encourage the Christians throughout the state to be praying for the piece
of Jerusalem and maybe work with our public officials that have the United States support
Israel. Lee Watch It's been a blessing thank you for agreeing to come on,
and we'll do this again sometime. I hope I will look forward to
it again. If anybody would like to watch my program Patriot Point on YouTube,
I'd love to have you there, all right, fantastic Lee Watts chaplain
to the Kentucky State Legislature. On the nightcap, we'll take a break in
Rock seven HUNDLW Garry Jeff and our old pal Roco Costelano on the phone tonight.
It's great to have It's lovely to see your face, Rocco, in
person, but you know what, I've seen enough of your face to imagine
you in front of me while we're on the phone. How about that.
And no, this is not a zoom or FaceTime call, so Roco Costellano.
Tonight we are talking about Pfizer, Maderna, Johnson, and Johnson,
the three major makers of the COVID nineteen Frankensteinshotz I like to call them the
vaccines that they've been pushing on the American public for the last three years.
Well, looks like they're in a little bit of hot water now thanks to
Texas and several other states who are suing them not for injuries caused by their
vaccines, of which we know there have been many and there continue to be
injuries from people taking the jabs, but for false advertising, for fraud almost
sounds like an FT case here that Texas and other states have been bringing against
these vaccine manufacturers. So give me an update, and I'll start by letting
a reminding people who don't I don't know who have not mastered the art of
coloring inside the lines in their third grade books. But no for people who
don't know vaccine makers. Vaccine makers, since nineteen eighty six, by a
law in Congress, have been immune from prosecution or from any kind of lawsuits
for injuries caused by their vaccines. This is something totally different. So Roco,
good evening, how are you and how's your face? Great? Great?
But I want to tell you that in nineteen eighty six when they did
do that, the crazy thing about that whole amnesty and giving them unity from
our prosecution and all that was because the vaccine manufacturers were making vaccines that hurt
people, and the and the federal government and the state governments still wanted these
people to make vaccines to vaccinate children, but they still hurt people. And
so when they were hurting people, they were getting sued by the public,
right and then and then they were like, well, well, we still
want these things that hurt hurt the children and hurt adults, but so we're
going to have to figure out a way because the injuries don't far outweigh the
so called health benefits. And so when there but they were still hunting people.
So they said, well, you're going to have to you know,
immune us from uh from a prosecution, and that and that and the and
the actual talks started about two years before in in the office in the Oval
office, Reagan. Yeah, and then they said and they and they and
Reagan literally said why can't you make safer vaccines? And what did they say?
And to see the pharmaceutical CEOs said well, well, I'm mister president,
they're unavoidably unsafe. So that the unavoidably they know, they know their
adverse effects from their vaccines, they know that they are patent unsafe, and
yet they still want to push their poison because there's a lot of money.
And I wonder how many of those Congressmen in nineteen eighty six who voted to
make these vaccine makers immune from lawsuits I wonder how much money Peizer and the
rest of them were paying them then on the sly so that through lobbyists and
the like to make sure that their cash flow continued. Now that would know,
seriously, vaccine makers like Pfizer, Johnson and Johnson Maderna, anybody who's
making a vaccine, they absolutely have a profound effect on the American economy.
There's no question because there's so much there's so much money being made in the
advertising, there's so much money being made in kickbacks doctors and health organizations.
There's so much money changing hands that they're not going to kill that cash cow
if they can help it. Because there's not a there's not a dollar that
doesn't have a pharmaceutical company on it. Right, So when you're looking at
the radio, at radio advertisement, at at our TV advertisement, YouTube gets
paid millions, hundreds of millions of dollars from Pisa, Maderna, buy in
tech Astrasenka, all these When we are going to you know, uh,
like participate in really anything, we have pharmaceutical dollars paying for that. And
that's why, and that's why I'm so I was so excited to get unlike
a five year old on Christmas Day when I hear that that Tekes this that
that that Attorney General Kemp Paxton from Texas has has brought down a fifty eight
count lawsuit against the pharmaceutical companies and not for vaccine injury. That was what
was so wonderful because they know that they're going to lose that case, right,
But there's been so many vaccine injuries. I mean, I know,
I don't know if you know, but I know personally about twelve people now
that have that have actual vaccine injuries from these COVID I know personally sudden deaths
that have been linked to the vaccine sudden deaths. That's right. You told
me that. That's right, you told me about the sudden deaths. I'm
you know, I deal with a lot of the injuries in my clinic,
you know, So so I got to fix these people. And I've had
I've had conversations with our doctor Pierre Corey and also a Peter McCollough just just
to understand how I can help my clients. Right. So, now,
Ken Paxton, they're going after the pharmaceutical companies, which is uh, it's
such a wonderful thing for actual fraud because the vaccines. We know now,
right like three years later, we know that the vaccines or the shots or
whatever you want to call them did not work the way that they said that
they were going to work. We heard from Joe Biden himself that they were
going to help help to to stop the spread and to stop infection. And
they did it, neither of them. So now they're going and they're getting
sued for actual fraud. Yeah, well here's here's it's part part partly is
the greatest partly fraud and conspiring to censor public discourse, which we have Pfiser
memos to uh, you know, big tech outlets like YouTube and the others,
to you know, classify any questioning of the efficacy of COVID vaccines as
miss as misinformation and the like, and to keep that from the public.
Pfiser. This is what the lawsuit says from the Texas Attorney Ginal General Ken
Paxton Piser. Pfiser engaged in false, deceptive, and misleading acts and practices
by making unsupported claims regarding the company's COVID nineteen vaccine in violation of the Texas
Deceptive Trade Practices Act. The pharmaceutical companies widespread representation that it's vaccine possessed ninety
five percent efficacy against infection was highly misleading. The metric represented a calculation of
the so called relative risk reduction for vaccinated individuals in Pfiser's initial two month clinical
trial two months they went through two months of clinical trials for a vaccine a
yeah. FDA publications indicate relative risk reduction is a misleading statistic that unduly influences
consumer choice. The FDA publications indicate that Peiser was also put on notice at
that time that vaccine protection could not accurately be protected beyond two months. Nevertheless,
Pfeiser fostered a misleading impression that vaccine protection was durable and withheld from the
public information that undermined its claims about the duration of protection. And despite the
fact that its clinical trial failed to measure whether the vaccine protects against transmission,
Pfizer embarked on a campaign to intimidate the public into getting the vaccine as a
necessary measure to protect their loved ones. And what's sad about this roco is
that Pfiser not only did this with a wink and a nod from the federal
government and these health departments but also media outlets who were in bed with Pfizer
and big Obese government to cover up the fact that it did not work your
foot. They were getting paid hundreds and hundreds of the billions of dollars now
that we know, they were absolutely getting paid, and they couldn't say anything.
That's the reason why guys like Tucker Carlson got you know, well and
the war and and a Ukraine. But they were talking against all this,
you know, all this stuff against the vaccines, and then you know,
they started to get a deplatformed, they started to get fired, I mean,
and yeah, and so so anybody. And that's where like this whole
nineteen eighty eighty four kind of things are going on because they're trying to censor
any any discourse whatsoever on what happened with these vaccines and where you know,
and there's people starting finally, I mean, after after all of this,
they're finally starting to wake up. It seems like people were just inundated with
bad decisions. Every single person out there was doing something that was going to
harm them. And then and then you know, you get sick, you
get you get dead, right and then and then all of a sudden,
uh, there's people waking up and they and they're taking notice, and and
it's not just and what's it was really crazy is that it's it's it's not
just conservatives that care about this stuff. You're seeing a lot of the you
know of like rep mainstream liberals out there going Nope, this is really bad.
This is really bad. And when they're starting to say it's really bad,
it's worse than really bad. Can you can you imagine now now the
federal government obviously complicit in this fraud, because absolutely they were. They were
forcing they were forcing members of the military to get jabbed. If they didn't
get jabbed, they got out. And they tried and Joe Biden tried to
make ordinary American citizens who weren't employees of the federal government like me, if
they belonged to a company with one hundred employees or more, that they were
going to force them to get jabbed or lose their jobs. This is one
of the greatest and I don't mean great by the normal definition of great This
is one of the most colossal frauds ever perpetrated on the world, not just
the American public, but on the world. And it was all for profit,
not for health, not for saving lives, none of that other garbage
that was pushed down our throats for three years and continues to be pushed down
our throats by big money, big pharma. Travis Travis, Travis Kelcey,
Travis kelce He made twenty He made twenty million dollars himself for a period money.
Yeah, he makes more money being in a pfisor and than he does
playing professional football. What does that say about what's happening right with with America?
What? You know, these pharmaceutical companies are so embedded in in our
lives that, you know, football players are now now most people. He's
got the nickname now, mister Pfiser. He's not even you know, he's
not even a Taylor Swift's boyfriend anymore. He's he's called mister Pfiser, you
know, because he's getting paid so much money. If if he got married,
he would become mister Swift. There's no question about that, because we
know ultimate, we know ultimately in that relationship, who wheres the you know,
supposed pants And it ain't him who has the jockstaff? And well,
okay, let's let's let's not get into your weird fetishes. Okay, I'm
not gonna let's just report on what we can see. Jeez. So so
anyway, this is big news, uh and well, and no one's gonna
talk about it like that's the whole thing, what I mean, who are
we nobody we chopped? Ever, of course we're talking about what I mean,
like, no, we're talking about it, right exactly. There's other
there's other a local uh stations that all are talking about it. But it's
not gonna be on you know, NBC, ABC, of course, CBS
or you know, or even Fox News, you know. I mean,
they're they're all rocco. They're all too busy trying to put Donald Trump in
jail to talk about something that really matters to the American public, like the
fact the fact that the greatest snake oil salesman in the history of snake oil
salesman happens to be wearing a Peiser cap, right exactly. These are just
like the people who traveled in the Vaudeville circuits from town to town, toubting
that their elixir, their tonic, would cure anything from cancer to impedance.
And and Pfiser and Johnson and Johnson Maderna have done the same things, and
I wish nothing but success to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, and I hope
they soak them. I hope they sow them for billions upon billions of dollars
because the American public, the world public, has been defrauded by these people
with the greatest grift of all time. The mission is bigger than even what
the Statler family did with eurompeates and what they I mean, this is way
bigger than that, you know. And this only happened within a three year
period, when opiates were killing people for ten years. Well, you know
they take that bigger than that. Well, now now the Saddler family has
had to settle up and pay their fair share. The opiates are eight dollars.
The synthetic opiates are are getting in because of a poorest southern border and
the lack of enforcement of our immigration policies. More on that tonight as we
continue. Roko, thank you for bringing me this really good news tonight.
Oh I was so happy. I was. I was a five year old
on Christmas Day, like I said, to bring this news to you,
all right, Roco Costellano, thank you. It's the night cap, and
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carry that banner in this half hour than my friend Dennis Wildman Walker, author
of Wildman the Book and possibly Are you ready for a close up? Dennis?
What is this? I hear about your book being made into some kind
of documentary? Can you talk about that or not? Oh? Yeah,
great to join you again here Gary, Jeff, Yeah, it's in the
works. I'm meeting here Rock Casino. I never knew the guy he knew
me, and then we started talking, and I happened to have a couple
of copies of my book because I always have them wherever I go, and
he bought a copy of the book, and then he immediately said, you
know, you should this should be on film. We should document this.
So we started talking, and I talked to him a couple of weeks ago
and he said, look, man, I'm all in on this. He
goes, I think we can make this really, really, really big.
So I'm going to meet with him on Saturday. He's been under the weather
for the last week and a half, so it was to meet him earlier.
But we're going to meet on Saturday and kind of go over a couple
of things and then just take it from there. Technically, we are all
under the weather at all times unless we're in a plane about thirty thousand feet
of well, you know, in this in this town, I mean,
the way the weather changes, no wonder people were all sick I reviived the
other day. It's crazy. So I got to ask you, just in
case, who will play the role of me? Well, I don't think
it's going to I don't think it's gonna be more of a I don't know
if you ever saw the uh the documentary about Pete Rose called The Crowning of
the Hit King, which basically detailed his life. Yeah, talk to him
and his friends. That's I think that's the I think that's the way we're
going to go. Possibly as have people talk about me that knew me or
growing up or whatnot. You know, well, I mean, I think
that's the drive direction we're going to go. I've I've known you for at
least the last twenty plus years. I would love a segment I could.
I could definitely, I could definitely contribute to wild Man the movie. Oh
I bet you can't. I know what we're talking about. So anyway,
uh you you actually you actually enjoyed the Pro Bowl activities this weekend? The
Pro Bowl games, Now I happened. I wasn't watching that, you know,
NonStop, because I was playing on my phone and doing a few things.
But I really like the way the game, and you know, they've
kind of gotten people more interested in it. No one got hurt, which
is number one. No one got hurt. It's flag football. Nobody's gonna
blitz, you know, when he never could blitz anyway, but nobody try
to tackle a guy, they happen to fall down or get the Thurf Monster
get him. So it's a little bit a lot more entertaining than it ever
was. I mean, fifty thousand plus we're in the stands for this,
fifty thousand plus watch this game down there, and then they've got these games
that they have, the Tug of War and a number of other games that
people really getting interested. So I think the NFL is finally wised up and
then done something really well for this. I mean, it was entertaining to
watch. It really was. And of course our own Jamar Chase he catches
a touchdown, what does he do? He does an impersonation of Chad Johnson.
He runs over to the television camera, gets up on the board and
back's like he's filming the game. That was great that he did that.
Oh yeah, and I'm sure since it's not an official game, I'm sure
he will not face a fine from the commissioner for that. No fine from
the commissioner, No, no. But again, no one got injured.
And you know, I hate to harken back to this, but before I
think maybe four or five years ago, when Tyler Eiffert went down there and
got injured, and that pretty much was I just started a slew of injuries
for a guy that could have been a Hall of Fame tied end. I
don't like, you know, I didn't like I'm almost you know, put
out there. I know I did a couple of years ago when Joe Burrow
went, I said, Joe, don't even play fake, like you got
a headache or something. You don't need to be out there getting tackled in
a workless game. But they've done away with that now, which is fine.
Yeah, I mean it was really there was no I couldn't understand.
I guess anything that the NFL touches seems to turn to gold and people will
watch if it's got the shield there in front of it and is endorsed by
the National Football League. Wild man. But there was absolutely no reason to
watch these previous Pro Bowl games. I mean, they don't. Oh,
it was worthless, yeah, workless. You know. It's it's like it's
not even like a practice. It wasn't even as serious as a practice the
way the players went about it. And and the fact of the matter is
too when you're going at half speed, there's a lot more chance that you're
going to get into absolutely and if you're going yeah, yeah, yeah,
trying to avoid an injury. And that's kind of like where the National Hockey
League now is gone. That they're All Star Game. It's almost unwatchable too.
I mean they have but you know, the night before they have a
bunch of skills games. I mean Connor McDavid just dominated in their skills games.
But the game itself though, it's you know, let's put you asleep
if you have insomnia. What's the National Hockey League All Start Game? Well,
and the NBA All Star Game? What is it? The first first
team to two hundred wins? Crazy? Well? This year, you know
this year they're going back to the East versus the West, and you won't
see much defense, but you will see some guys that will light up the
light up to the basket that we're like, well that guy can that guy
can shoot some Speaking of lighting up the baskets, I have never seen the
explosion of fifty and sixty point games by different play in the National Basketball Association
like I've seen this year. And it's just like one after another. Steph
Curry, this guy, that guy you know sixty used to be a real
milestone, especially in a regular season NBA game, and now it's like nothing.
They're they're scoring sixty all over the place and every other week in that
league. All right, Yeah, this has got to be something that that
you know that the NBA might want to address nothing, because it's just it
kind of like taints the game in a way because so many guys can shoot
that three pointer. I'm not advocating to move the three point line back farther,
but the three point three pointer definitely has made a difference in these guys
being able to score sixty and seventy points. It's it's crazy, it really
is well to me. To me, you go to a regular NBA game,
there's no defense, hardly plays. They don't start playing defense until the
playoffs, right, just like little Joey told Kareem Abdul Jabbar in the movie
Airplane, my dad says, you never played defense except in the playoffs.
Like how, I don't try, Dragon, Lannaire, I've been down the
court with thirty two minutes, you remember. That's great. H So you
mentioned the NHL and Gary Bettman, the commissioner of the National Hockey League,
has recently said that there should be some serious discussion about bringing a major league
hockey franchise to Cincinnati. Your thoughts, that's my thoughts, Gary Bettman,
I don't know was he drunk when he was saying that, because Gary,
Jeff, let's be real about this. I mean, I would love the
National Hockey League to come to Cincinnati. I'm a huge hockey fan. My
son played hockey from the time he was five up until through high school.
I mean, I've worked for the Cyclones for twenty plus years. I'd be
the first in line to buy a season ticket, or I'd probably be in
line to be the PA announcer for the National Hockey League team. But that's
not gonna happen. Number one, let me tell you this. You know
how much it cost to Las Vegas go to Nights to join the National Hockey
League and two thousand and seven five hundred million dollars, so half a bill
to that's that's in two thousand and seven, that's what it cost them to
join the National Hockey League. The average ticket price for an NHL game is
eighty one dollars. Eighty one dollars. Okay, the hockey base in this
town, let's say the Cyclones Hockey base is at best four thousand fans,
four thousand, I mean, and that's only because you know, they get
these big crowds of nine thousand here and there on Fridays and Saturdays, because
they have giveaways and people can go out on Friday and Saturday. But they're
not gonna In the NHL, you don't play every night on Friday and Saturday.
You also play Mondays, you also play Tuesdays, you'll play Sundays.
And then the fan base is not here, it's not You can go up
the Fountain Square right now, right now, Gary Jeff, with a fist
full one hundred dollars and stop, I don't know how many people and ask
them, can you name me the Cyclones head coach or can you name me
two players? They couldn't do it, They could not do it. So
and for this, and then and then you've got the arena issue. The
arena. Somebody has to build an arena. Not with my tax dollars.
It ain't happening. And John Hugh Pig is with me. We're not going
to fund a new arena. It's not gonna happen. You know, we
got we got royally shafted. Paul Brown Stadium now pay Corpse Stadium and Great
American Ballpark. The public got screwed and it's not gonna happen. Some other
independent guy would have been come in here and build the arena and where hell,
I have no idea where the arena would would would go? I have
no idea, but we got to have an arena. Number one, what
were you what were your feelings when professional soccer came here and we had to
build TQL Stadium to get that, to get that done. Well, the
number one, they had, you know, solid ownership right from the get
go. Okay, they they showed that they had the solid ownership, solid
ownership. And then also, how many kids around this town play soccer?
Everybody plays soccer. You know how many hockey teams are in this town that
play in the high school. There's only three now, it's down to three.
Elder bowler, saytex, that's it now. Indian Hill. I was
at their meeting last night, Indian Hills exploring about doing a varsity hockey team.
But that's only four. That's only four now. There are some you
know, uh the ca Ha. It used to be Kaha. There were
kids still playing hockey, but not to the extent of soccer. I mean,
soccer is everywhere. So you had that basel, you know, to
draw from, and they worked that, man, they really did. They
worked all those teams all around the city to get people to you know,
the interesting them buying tickets. So they had a massive mass of plan the
NHL. You'd have to really this is a pipe dream. I mean I
love the people on Facebook going, oh yeah, I can't wait to go.
Oh yeah, well okay, you're gonna pay eighty one dollars a ticket.
Yeah right, that don't happen. That don't happen in this town,
wild man. Mind. Now, there would have been an expansion team too,
Gary, you who've been expansion team. We'd be in the We'd be
in the basement like the Columbus Bluejackets have been for except for one year.
We'd be in THEA. In this town, we're not supporting an expansion team.
We'd be with in the basement all the time. Well, I mean
there's still a Bengals franchise. How long were they in the basement. That's
that's old news. That's old news. Let's focus on the current. Now
they're doing pretty well. Okay, Well, let me focus on something else
in regards to NHL hockey professional hockey coming to a town you'd never expect.
My old hometown was Nashville, Tennessee. Now, when I moved from Nashville
up here in nineteen ninety three ninety four, the Titans weren't even playing in
Nashville, and I just I didn't foresee that ever happening in that town.
So then the NFL came, and we have both NFL and MLB here in
Cincinnati, which Nashville does not. Still have a Major League baseball team.
I think that Major League Soccer and Mage League Soccer, I think I think
that will be the next franchise that hits Nashville, by the way, as
a major Okay, but Nashville is not bigger than Cincinnati in fact, market
size, if you look at the metro, Cincinnati is larger than Nashville.
And I never imagine Nashville would have a professional hockey. You're in the mid
South. It's not exactly a hotbed for ice hockey. And yet if the
Predators have flourished there, so why would it work in a town like Nashville
and not in a town like Cincinnati. Well, there's only so many sports
dollars going around to Gary and I don't remember what exactly Nashville did you know
to get season tickets, but I do know the Winnipeg Jets before they rejoined
the NHL, they had to guarantee at least ten to twelve thousand season ticket
holders. Good luck with that in this town at the price that that's going
to cost. Well also to do that. Also, while man, I
will say this, as far as you know, ancient history in Cincinnati regarding
sports teams is that the the last what fifty years have been littered with the
remnants of minor league professional hockey teams that went by the wayside and did not
last. We had the we had the Stingers. What were the other failed
experiments and professionals? The Stingers, the Swords. The Swords were successful.
It's just that when the w h A came into business with the Stingers,
the Swords left. But then you had this this the uh. You had
the Uh. Well, let's go, I'll run them all down for you.
Okay. You had the Mohawks, the Cincinnati Mohawks, who were really
successful, but that was eons ago. They they were they were like a
second Montreal Canadian team and then you had then you had the the Sting,
you had the Swords, and you had the Stingers. Okay, then you
had the Tigers who were here one year and then and then you had the
Cyclones. Then you had the Mighty Ducks. Then you had the Cyclones.
Right and this Cyclones, I mean for a minor league. You know,
you said they draw about four thousand. That's not bad for minor league hockey
anywhere, Dennis, not at all. The Cyclones have been somewhat successful in
drawing fans with their promotions and their cheap ticket prices and putting on a product
that you know is competitive every year. So you just think there's no way
possible an NHL team could ever wind up in Cincinnati and actually be successful.
That's what you said. I would like to see the Cyclones do this to
see if there was really an interest is join the American Hockey League. But
they go up another notch and that's really like, you know, uh,
trip away, right, you know, ready to go to play in the
NHL. But the ticket prices would go up if they joined the American Hockey
League. And right now ticket prices those Cyclones are twenty one dollars twenty one
dollars to go to a hockey game. That's not bad. No, that's
not bad. But I guarantee if they went up to join the American Hockey
League, the ticket prices would go way up and the attendance would not be
No. Four thousand per game if they're lucky to get that. All right,
I just don't see it happening. It's a pi it's just a ludicrous
pipe dream. And now here's the other thing. All right, do you
think the Columbus Blue Jackets are going to sign off on that in there,
in this geographical area that they would sign off on? Okay, go ahead,
go ahead and have a team. I mean Cleveland, if any team,
anybody who could could support an NHL team Cleveland over Cincinnati because they got
a lot more people up there. There's no way the Blue Jackets would sign
off on the UH on the on the Cincinnati. So you're saying, you're
saying right now, Gary Bettman is smoking Yukon gold or something. I think
Gary Bettman was on something when he said that. I mean, I heard
these talk years ago when the Cyclones were so successful out of the Gardens and
another hockey team was going to come into town and they had to rig ready
to go, and a new league was gonna go. It was a nothing
but a bunch of smoking mears and just people's to getting, you know,
just stupid publicity that went nowhere, all right, and in this in this
case, in this case, I would love to see it, but they
ain't gonna happen, or it ain't gonna happen. Real, real quick,
wild man, real quick, thirty seconds, give me your answer. What
do you think about the red signing? Josh Harrison? I loved it.
I love it, man. I mean, he's a UC guy's a hometown
guy, is a veteran guy, can play play all kinds of positions.
I love the signing. I hope he makes the team and I quickly.
We ought to talk about the forty nine Ers and Chiefs. I'm going with
the forty nine ers. I'm sick of seeing the Chiefs. I want the
forty nine ers to win. I don't really like the forty nine ers,
but I want the forty nine ers to win. I'm predict picking the forty
nine ers to win. How dare you? All right? Wild man?
Thank you? That would be your actory. Yet we'll talk. We'll talk
in the aftermath and see how proud you are of your forty nine ers.
Okay, we will talk, we will rewall, we will rehash the super
Bowl in depth. All right, thanks wild Man Walker on the Nightcap,
and you know, much more ahead, including the fur Ball. Next,
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and other maybe unrelated topics with the fur Ball, Andy Furman one of our
favorite guests on the night Cap because well, he makes himself available. He's
always available, always available to me. And that's that means I don't add
much, but I'm just happy to be there. So it saves you a
little bit. Well, it always, it always makes my life easier when
I've got an interesting guest who knows things like you on my on my digital
rollodex. Andy, you make my life easier. It's it's the day way
out of that lark. That's okay, that's good. Well, you know,
let me let me let me ask you this before you get started on
your little role here. Yeah, didn't you always find that the women who
were most attractive in your life were attractive because they were interested in you.
I've always found that well, you know, it's kind of a loaded question.
Was to know that many women that were interested in me, you know,
I think they kind of thought I was an oddball. Like in high
school, I was like the nerd. Really, I mean, I just
you know, I just I wasn't like the rest of the guys. Even
even now. You know, I bury myself in my work because my work
is my hobby. You know, people who have other jobs can't say that
because you can't you know, you can't take it home with you, but
I do. I live with it. I was using the analogy Andy Furman,
because you always seem to want to talk to me. That makes me
want to talk to you more. So it's kind of the same thing.
Yeah, you know what I have to say this. You know, I
have some traits that are good, so I'm obviously not that good be cleaned
up. But I consider myself a people person. I always made myself available
to people, and that's my job. I was always been a PR man.
I consider myself a PR guy. Now I'm a PR guy at the
point arc in coming to you know, when you're a PR guy you're a
people person. You service people, you promote the place you work for,
and that's what I do. I've done that all my life. I've done
it. When I came to town as Antonia Race Course, I did it,
you know, for various sports teams I worked for in college teams,
so you know, people personal. I mean, there are certain guys that
media guys would call you in the middle of the night for a story.
I was always available, you know. I was always made myself available and
kind of gone the extra mile if a guy wanted to talk to an athlete.
And you can ask Ken Brew this. I mean, I was a
sports information guy at or Roberts University in Tolsa, Oklahoma. Well, my
buddy kim Brew was working at KOTV, the CBS affiliate channel six and Tulsa
and Auld Robinson was put on probation and he wanted to talk to some players
and whatever I got on the players, I mean, I did it.
That's that's my job. You know. There was certain administrative people in the
university at the time weren't happy, you know, they rather keep tight lip.
And my feeling was, you can't hide, you can't stick your ahead.
I can't talk. I can't call kN Brew because he wouldn't take my
call, So maybe you can help me with that people person. And further
and further, Yes, cannibals are people because they know how good people really
are. Andy, I've worked with some cannibals too, So what's what's on
their front Bernard for fur Ball today? Well, you know, I have
the opportunity to kind of stay on your stage and kind of spew some things
that kind of bugged me. And I'm not to say that I'm a negative
guy, but these things really are out of proportion. And I think you
and I talked about the other day when we were chatting about the Detroit Lions.
I was rooting for them so hard and I wanted to see them win.
And you know, all of a sudden, Dan Campbell basically is going
for going for on third down and they didn't make it several times because have
gone field goal and really buried his opposition when they played two weeks ago.
But I tell you this, it's the same media people, the same gas
bags that say that he screwed up and lost and did what he had to
do. But if he didn't do that, that's his that's his mantra.
He's a riverboat gambler. He did that all season long. That's what got
the Detroit Lions basically to the championship game. So for me to take that
stance and dump on Dan Campbell, I will not do that. I love
the guy, I love his passion. I like what he told the team
after they lost. Guys, I'm proud of you, but you know why
this could be a long haul. We may not get this far next year.
And that's true. I wish Zach Taylor would have told out the Bengals
because people were purchasing Super Bowl tickets in August and the Bengals that make the
playoffs. So you know, I did some statistical work and I saw that
eighty percent of the third downs that he converted were good eighty percent. He
converted eighty percent of third downs this year, led the league and doing so,
so there wasn't a surprise that he went for on third downs. Did
he fail? Yeah, if he would have made it, they would have
said the same media people said he's a genius. So that's my spewing.
No, you go with the date that brought you to the dance, Sandy,
you don't just switch partners in mid stream. You're you're finally there at
the prom, and you know you brought a date with you that you wanted
to bring along, and you don't switch. You don't didn't walk out on
that date in the middle of the prom just because you know she's not Yeah,
right, exactly. You've got to You've got to do what made you
successful in the first place. And for Dan Campbell, that was being a
riverboat gambler. Am I hearing that you're agreeing with me? I am,
That's great? Oh good, Okay, conversation is not over yet, Andy,
there's still like eleven minutes. Well, obviously, I want to talk
about the topic called second chances, secondd chances, people who get second chances
in life. And I look at the Super Bowl and I made a mistake,
and this is Snoop Dogg performing in the Super Bowl this year? Am
I wrong? I think he is? Yeah, I believe he's there,
and he's there in some capacity. I'm not sure. I think. I
think. I think Snoop Dogg will actually be Usher's fluffer, if you know
what that is, whatever it is. Okay, I'm not attacking Snoop Dogg.
I'm not down on Snoop Dogg. Do I listen to his music?
And I really I like this Corona Beer commod commercial. I think they're cute.
But I will tell you this much. If I had a teenage order,
I would not permit her to listen to the lyrics of his music.
That's all I'm saying. I think it's wrong. And to hask him on
the stage at the super Bowl. And he's had some problems, he had
some problems with the law. He's got a second chance, the third chance,
And I don't understand why most people in this great country of ours do
get a second chance and a third time one of them I always thrown out
at WLW Radio. I'm not going to go down that road. I don't
think it was fair. I don't think it was just, but that was
the deal. But I got a second chance. Well, you're still well,
you're still part of the iHeart Cincinnati family because you're on Fox Sports thirteen
sixty and you're a regular appearer on this program which is on Guess what seven
hundred WLW. Do you talk about second chances? Andy, you were rife
with second chances. Well, there's no doubt and the irony of it is
I worked at seven hundred and there's iHeart now with Fox Sports Radio, and
I've been there for like a dozen years, and their iHeart. So it's
the same companies, all right. So maybe they knew in their heart of
hearts what they do is wrong. But you know what, someone blessed me,
and I'm happy it happened because now I'm going an national stage. However,
one guy who has never gotten that second chances my good friend in us,
Tom Brendan's, and I don't understand it. I really do not understand
how this kid cannot get a freaking second chance. He's talented, he's good.
I don't know if he ticked off people and what he did was wrong.
Okay, what he did was totally wrong, and the point is that
he did it, and there was an open mic. Is he that kind
of a person? No? Was he joking around? Probably yes, But
I'm going to tell you this much. He was quoting, he was andy.
He was quoting Blazing Saddles, a line from Blazing friggin Saddles. That's
all he was doing. He didn't think he was on the air, and
I'm telling you what, and the producers should have done something. But you
know, people in this country are quick to say, hey, I got
you, You're gone. But here's my question to you, and I want
to hear your response. Number one, Okay, what he did was done.
Okay, after he did that, he went ahead and went to every
I guess gay community to to say, look, I didn't mean is I'm
with you. I'm not so certain that general public thought or do thinks now
that's sincere. I think they think he did that because that may be away
from the cover and come back. My take is this, I'm going to
run this fight. If this has not been anywhere, no one knows this.
My take is this, he needs to have a program called hold your
Tongue. What is hold your Tongue? We get T shirts like the Rolling
Stones right with the tongue hold your Tongue. Tom Brenneman goes to Cincinnati Public
schools to the district chairman, the cham assistant Public Schools. They call a
news conference and Tom Brennanman goes from the school to school with T shirts telling
these kids, I don't want violence. If you're think you ort to say
something, think before you say it, hold your tongue. I don't want
to see these fights on Government Square anymore. It's stupid. It doesn't pay,
it's stupid argumentation. You could agree to disagree without this the couse,
without names, without words, and certainly without guns. That to me is
more sincere than what he did with the gay community, because those people in
the gay community probably don't believe him anyway. Your take, well, my
take is he demean the fine people of Kansas City. And I do not
believe that the fine people of Kansas City are made up are made up of
a bunch of weirdos with alternative lifestyles. Andy, That's my take, And
I think I think he needs I think I think he needed to apologize to
the people of Kansas City, not gay groups. I think the producer that
had the mike open needs to apologize to Tom Brenneman. I think I think
he needed to apologize to mel Brooks for quoting a line from his movie.
Yeah, that's that's who we should have apologized for. No, Tom Brenneman
definitely definitely deserves a second chance. There's so many people in this country who
have gotten second chances at the highest levels and to continue because of one very
very small, but very vocal special interest group. That you offended. Because
of that, you're continually wiped off the map time and time again. It
is patently unfair. It is not the American way, and it should be
corrected tomorrow. Somebody should hire Tom Brenneman tomorrow and without him going to schools
saying hold your tongue, without going to alternative lifestyle groups and apologizing, just
based on his talent on the meritocracy, he should be hired tomorrow somewhere.
And I would I would be I would be one of the first people to
tune in the minute he was on TV or on the radio when he got
the acts, when he got the acts for both the Red and Fox Sports
doing football. I wrote a letter to the president of Ohio University. Why
he went to Ohio You And I said, look, you know he's one
of your proud graduates. Why don't you put him on your radio team,
you know, give him a spot to do as woke as woke as woke
as college campuses are in this country. Are you kidding me? That would
be setting Tom Breman. That would be setting Tom Brenneman up to be burned
in effigy. Uh, maybe not even an effigy to be burned alive at
the stake at a place like Athens, Ohio, on that college campus that
that uh, that poisonous tree of academic slime. And not not Ohio itself,
but college campuses all over this country are infected with this this identity politics
wokism that is ruining those institutions and ruining the education of America's next generation.
So yes, I would like to see Tom Brenneman back on the air tomorrow,
and I would fully support that, and like I said, I'd be
one of his biggest supporters in that. So, well, what do you
think about that? I'm trying to I love it. I love that I'm
trying to figure something out. And maybe now i'm a little older. I'm
not saying I'm wise, I'm a little old of games. I'm figuring it
out. Tom Brenneman doesn't bring any revenue to anybody. Really, people are
gonna watch football and basketball and baseball games. You know, if you did
the play back play, if I did it, or if a monkey did
it. Really, it's just the game itself, not the announcer. So
why guys like Tony Romo get ten million dollars is beyond me. I don't
get it, but a basketball coach in college somehow brings revenue, exposure,
TV, maybe increases enrollment. That's why guys get second and third chances.
All you gotta do is look around Cincinnati. The coach of Xavier basketball,
coach Davi. He got thrown out of Arizona. He's back a Xavier,
all right. I mean he's a coach. What he did, can I
compare what he did? Was it any worse than what Tom Brenneman did.
I don't know what did Sean Miller do. He was accused of, but
he was never convicted of anything, cose it was his pro because it was
his program. And you're the coach and the coach CEO of the program,
so anything that happens underneath you, you're responsible for. Period of the story.
Really, you know, if someone cheating or stealing money at Fifth Third
Bank, there's a good chance the CEO is Fifth Third Banks to be gone.
There's a good chance, like you should have known that, you should
have spotted that petina at Louisville. He may not have done anything, but
his under the assistance they did it. DA had Hooker's allegedly on campus.
Okay, he's gone. But you know what, he got another chance,
He got a second chance, got a third chance. But to Wyona,
now is the Saint John's so But again I see the amount of money,
exposure and what he may bring to the table as what Tom Brendanman does.
I guess you know, media people executive say, look, we don't get
Tom Brendanman, We'll get Joe Blow. No big deal, right, It
is not the attitude I would think. Yeah, I mean probably. I
can't get inside their heads and figure out why they wouldn't give a very talented
broadcaster or another shot. I mean, don Imus called the girls from Rutgers,
the women's basketball team, the nappy headed hose and got kicked off.
He does morning show but no, but then he was rehired a couple of
years later at Fox Business and he was back on the air. Don Imus
got a second chance. Tom Breham Carton, Craig Carlton on WFAN was involved
in a gambling scheme, you know, really really bad. He got thrown
off WFAN. Now he's making ten times the amount of No. What this
topic to me will never go away. I have no answer for it,
but it eats me alive because I know Tom Brennan needs a friend. These
other people I don't know. I don't know as well as Tommy, you
know. So that's what eats me up alive. Getting a second tis shore.
It's okay, but if it's good for one, it's good for all.
Right, it should be a hand pick operation. I don't get it.
I just don't understand it. Well, you know what, I played
the Stroke by Billy Squire about ten thousand times in nineteen eighty three, and
I still was allowed to get hired somewhere else doing a radio jobs. You're
right, everybody deserves a second chance. Andy, there's no question. Is
there anything else on your docket tonight? But I like to find out from
the people who basically made There's gotta be one guy who made the decision,
both at at at LW the Reds and also at Fox. No one person
he said get rid of him. I want to talk to that guy.
Actually, Can you tell me why? Well, tell me why. That's
why. That's I want to know who did it why. I think he's
the coward. That person's the coward. I think it was probably I think
it was probably the marketing director who was in charge of Dylan Mlvaney at bud
Light and she's she's gone again now too, and she should be right.
And I don't you know, just thinks you crazy. It really does.
I don't want to get myself riled up too much about this, but it's
something that just don't won't go away. And you know, I feel for
Tom if he apologizes, If he apologizes, if he apologizes to the citizens
of Kansas City and mel Brooks, I think he's in Andy. I gotta
go. And remember, you can't spell from me. You can't. You
can't well, I mean time. You won't have to go. We're we're
out of time. We're out of time, and my bladder is calling.
You can't spell for it without f you. Good night, God bless you.
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as Fortnightcap on seven hundred w l W, Gary Jeff Walker And for this
hour or for this half hour, anyway, for the next few minutes,
we'll see how long it stays on the line, if you can actually stand
me orund But we have and it's it's rare that we have a poet on
the air, But yes, he is that, and he is much more.
He is an American heat has written essays, collections of essays, including
the DNA of Democracy and Shadows of the Acropolis ominous foreshadowings there and he is
our guest for the next few minutes. Richard c Lyons is on the line.
Richard, how are you doing tonight? Oh? Very good, Gary,
How are you doing fine? Doing fine? So if we can take
poetic license with democracy and patriotism, let's go ahead and do that. Sure.
First off, describe what you have what you have written down in DNA
of demilostrap Democracy, DNA of Democracy and Shadows of the Acropolis, each one
of them singularly. So let's go with the DNA of democracy. What's that
all about, Richard? It is it is the It is a chronicle of
the infrequency of what we call democracies or government by the people. So it
is the democracy of Athens that was direct democracy, or it's the Republic of
Rome, which was by representation most like our federal government. And there is
the common law institutions of the Magnet Carta as it grew in England to provide
an independent judiciary and justice system. So I visit those things in history and
I and I go straight to the Revolution in America, why it was fought
against the tyranny of George the Third, and how our constitution was put together
exactly. How so you have provisions for local rule and the ninth and tenth
Amendments which provide state. Oh oh, Richard, Richard, Richard. For
some reason, your your signal just went berserk on me. Oh, I'm
sorry. That's why the landline is better about that. Well, that's okay,
go ahead, continue. So you're talking about a country was created,
Okay, Yeah, So that's the DNA of democracy, all the things necessary
to have a government by the people. Shadows of the acropolis. Conversely,
is how and why the administrative state in America was created and grew for the
last hundred years, and why that is a socialist rather than a democratic institution
and a threat to the foundation of our country today. Well, and as
you mentioned, the roots of what we have today started in ancient Greece and
in Rome to a certain extent, and then with the signing of the Magna
Carta, which kind of correct gave you a I don't know, kind of
a guide path to how government should relate to people and vice versa. And
exactly so, then you talk about our American Revolution where we broke away from
the tyranny of King George the Third. You know what it seems like,
And there are plenty of other examples, Richard, but it seems like we're
almost at this tipping point with Joe Biden in office, as with King George
the Third on the throne, because both of them had seeming medical challenges which
added to their inability to govern or lead correctly. And I'm talking about the
cognition of Joe Biden and the obvious, the obvious fallbacks to Joe's ability to
even form sentences. And King George the Third it's I don't know if it's
a fact, but it's been positive that he was mentally ill with syphilis for
a great deal of the American Revolution. I mean, that's going to cloud
your judgment and your ability to govern correctly, is it not? Well?
What two things are? One thing is true about both of them, and
that is that they exercise a tyrannical sort of rule. For Joe Biden,
and I think he's a useful puppet, yeah, Gary, I think someone
else is using his decrepit old frame in order to blame him for policies that
nobody in America likes, right, So when they appoint some at the Democratic
Convention to run against Trump, they'll have a clean slate. And what people
haven't liked about Joe Biden, they'll say, oh, they're going to fix
that, don't you worry, and they'll buy and they'll blame Biden for it.
He's a useful fool. But like George the Third, he is exercising
a sort of a tyranny in that if you look at the disregard that Biden
has shown in the state of Texas to be able to defend itself, it's
rather like the disregard that George the Third had for the colonies. Yeah right.
If you look at the agencies under the federal agencies of the administrative state
trying to take control of people's land in Wyoming, that's exactly corollary to Britain's
taking all the lands west of the Appalachia just prior to the revolution, which
we made people leave their homes and farms in the Ohio Valley. These are
the same sorts of things, their tyranny in different eras. And that's why
in the DNA of democracy, it's so the difference between people ruling themselves and
under one law, and a tyrant ruling on his own and telling people what
they can and cannot do. So Biden is trying to call Texas they can't
defend their own border and secure their own people. It's ridiculous. Well,
when the Constitution clearly says that they do have that right and that tool in
their box. Yeah, and it's very very plainly stated by Texas Governor Greg
Abbott and the people who are administering those policies in Texas to literally save their
state, their republic. You know, I had to multiple discussions yesterday with
people who live in the great state of Texas and what they have seen and
what it means. And now, of course it's every state in the Union
because the government has paid to take these criminals to all corners of the state.
And you know, if you if you're under the false impression that no
human being is illegal, well then that means that no cash bail and letting
people out of court to who have you know, committed heinous acts like the
woman who stabbed her boyfriend to death and the judge excused it because she was
suffering a psychotic break. Because you involuntary and voluntarily inhaled marijuana. That's a
pretty famous case. No, I'm serious. This happened in California. So
yes, there are some people. There are some people who are in fact
illegal by their actions. And when your first action in this country is to
break the law because you think you can get by with it, that makes
you any illegal immigrant. Right there, step one, Yes, exactly,
there is right and wrong and on that based law, yes, right,
And these laws go back the laws of a free people, go back,
you know, back to Athens and back to Rome and back to the Magna
Carta and the British judiciary. There's a difference between the law held by the
people in a social compact and a tyrant saying I refuse to defend your border,
and I won't let you do it either. But I think there's a
design behind this. Gary, if you'd like to listen for just a moment,
yes, because I've just discerned this. So in twenty twenty three,
two and a half million illegals were encountered and then shipped throughout America, as
you know, and in New York City they're talking about giving them credit cards
for at the taxpayer's expense. I saw now one of the first acts of
the Biden administration was to issue Executive Order one four zero one nine, which
was an effort he spread this throughout all of the four hundred and thirty five
administrative agencies of the federal government, and it was an effort to expand through
our single government the Democrat voter based by having every agency work with leftist non
profit organizations in urban areas to target voters who would vote Democrat. So,
if you're funneling two and a half million people the urban areas around the country,
and every agency in the government is saying come here and sign your name
on this document, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Richard, you went away
again. I'm sorry. But if you're if you're sending people to urban areas,
yes, and having federal agencies tasked, I see what. I tell
you what. Let's Richard, Let's take a break and I will call you
back on landline and we can finish this. Because this is important. This
is important conversation and people need people need to understand what the Biden administration has
done purposely through executive order, not through law, not following federal law that's
already on the banding law and creating law that should not be law, and
the executive branch has no power to do that, supposedly. Right, oh,
right, more with Richard c Lyons in just a moment, the DNA
of Democracy and Shadows of the Acropolis and how it relates to what is going
on right now. It's all ahead, then the new year is here.
And if you're like many of us, you're going to make a resolution to
improve your health. But if you're feeling sluggish and low energy, if your
sleep patterns are off, the DNA of Democracy and Shadows of the Acropolis talking
about the border invasion that Joe Biden has permitted and not only permitted, but
encouraged mainly to build up the Democrat voter base through Executive Order one four Oh
what's the rest Richard one four zero one nine all right, and sent this
out to four hundred and thirty five federal government agencies, specifically in urban areas
to basically it's it's a voter drive of people who are not citizens to this
point, by one party to the government. Yes, by one party,
So can tell there? Okay? So when all right, so two and
a half million people are let in in one year, that's just one year,
people are estimating it's like twelve or thirteen million. Now, then you
have one of the first things Biden administration did was this executive order one four
zero one nine to register. And I think, you know, if you're
giving away credit cards in New York and you say, well, you can
have this credit card if you just sign here, I think that's another voter
on their tally sheet. In addition, when you talk about states like Pennsylvania,
when you go in Pennsylvania to renew your license, they make you register
to vote. So if they are allowing illegal aliens to have a license,
they are automatically registered. They are automatically registered, even if they're ineligible to
vote. It's part of a and this is part of a coordinated scheme to
get to get Trump disallowed from ballots and illegal aliens at the same time to
vote. And it's rather heinous because you have Biden reniging on his constitutional duties
and abandoning his duty to defend the country and then bringing in illegals to vote.
Well, that's what Greg Abbott, that's what Greg Gabbott cited in Texas,
and that's why he took, you know, unilateral action to protect the
sovereignty of his state and ultimately our country, which Joe Biden clearly does not
care about. It looks and I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled about this. Mike
Johnson says that the Senate bill that was proparedst is dead on arrival in the
House, thank God. And it looks and it looks and it looks like
it's not going to pass muster in the Senate either in its current form because
and should not. It is exactly what the Democrats and Joe Biden want in
this continued voter drive. Some people call it replacement theory, whatever you want
to call it. I and so, so we have the branches of Congress,
which Joe Biden will now blame and is taking time to blame Republicans again
for this not going forward, because Joe says his hands are tied. I've
done all I can. Yes, you've done all your all you can to
eliminate completely the borders of this country. That's that's right you have by ignoring
federal laws that are already on the books, and by ignoring your responsibility as
commander in chief to protect our country from such invasions. That was perfectly said
Joe Biden, as Executive, under the Immigration and Nationality Act, can act
on section two one two f and thereby suspend the entry of any alien whatsoever
or any class of aliens. He could do that today and refuses to.
This is his constitutional duty. This has been This has been code in this
country since nineteen fifty two, since the Eisenhower Truman Eisenhower administry. Exactly right,
exactly right. And there's also there's further laws. There was a two
two thousand and six Fence Act which gave the executive the authority to take control
operational control of every land and sea border of the United States. And that
too, is another law that he's abrogating in favor of what I think is
an illicit design by the Democratic Party to make sure that their party assumes a
one party rule, owing to the fact that they just keep bringing in aliens
to fulfill the voter roles and to suppress the conservative vote. But you know,
this can only happen alongside because of the acquiescence of Republicans who do not
believe in the promise and the guarantees of American sovereignty. And you know the
Republicans, you know, many of them are obviously just feckless tools of some
of the same forses that are behind the Democrats. Well they you know,
they partner with they partner with the Democratic Party, their Democratic Party. Light.
I put it this way, the Democrats are today dedicated to creating socialism
in America and destroying this country. The Republicans, on the other hand,
half of them are determined to destroy their party, the Republican Party or Conservatism.
And so you you know, you really have a task for the next
nominee of the Republican Party to bring that party together and define And this is
what my books do, define where the country is right now, because it's
a why in the road between socialism and a renewal of our constitutional principles.
You've got to do one or the other. And it's a really it's an
historic moment. Well you know what, and the forces behind this are even
darker than socialism or Marxism. They are the globalist concerns, the World Economic
Forum, the WHO, the IMF, all of these, all of these
forces are coming to bear on killing the American dream because as long as the
American dream is alive, then they cannot assume total control of the entire globe.
Yeah, there was. There was someone at the at the World Economic
Forum, I think his name was Ciras and he said, and this is
perfect language, he said, we cannot allow national divides to stop us from
dealing with global issues as a global body. Well, who elected them?
Nobody elected them? No and no. And it's based on administrative law,
which is what we get out of our agencies. Gary. They are not
They never go through the legislature, they're never judicially reviewed as being consistent with
the constitution. They are dictates, usually by the Democratic Party. Well,
you have seen what has happened with these unelected bodies, like the Colorado State
Supreme Court now just unilaterally decided to take Donald Trump off the ballot because they
but they weren't. None of them were elected by the voters of Colorado.
Uh. Perfect example, the Secretary of State of Maine, who is also
an unelected appointed official, deciding that she's going to remove Donald Trump from the
ballot. Another unelected bureaucrat acting like they represent the people, which they obviously
do. Right. If there's a there's just there's these two forms of governance,
Gary, are opposites. Administrative law and administrative agencies. And representative bodies
are opposed to each other philosophically. Richard C. Lions, I've got to
go times up unfortunately, but we'll do it again. Okay. Oh love
to thank you, Gary, thank you for your time. It's the Nightcap
on seven hundred WLW, on the turn for Home on this Tuesday night,
we're talking with our old friend Dave Patter, our it guy tech Talk.
He is uh, he is the guy that I look too when I think
that everything's fine, and then I go, oh my god. He just
pointed out about three or four or five things that are going to kill us
all and it's all and it's all Internet of Things related. So Dave,
how are you going to scare us tonight? That's the question? Well,
Gary Jeff, you'd asked. Sadly, it's a long list of options.
We can start wherever you like, because it seems like every day, as
all this digital technology becomes increasingly intertwined in our daily lives, there are all
these threats out there that regular every day non nerds don't seem to really get
unfortunately, and you know, the bad guys exploit that. And the point
I always try to make Gary Jeff, anyone that we'll listen is they want
to steal your money, and if you don't take the right steps, if
you make it easy, they are going to steal your money. It's just
literally that simple. So you know, I appreciate you giving me the opportunity
to try to help people avoid the just spiraling same out there. Well,
Dave, and just a couple of things before we get started to full throat
it into the scam work that you've been focusing on. So all post that
TikTok is now actually helping illegal migrants on how to break into the country.
What a wonderful thing that the Communist Chinese Party has done through their app to
you know, Gary, there's just nothing good to say about TikTok. TikTok
really should be banned. You know, we've talked about it before. And
it's not just that your data is going to China, which is a problem
because people tell me all Facebook, all these companies are doing the same thing.
Well, first off, if you just go back and you look at
TikTok's privacy label in the Apple Store and you see how aggressively is clicking your
information, that's problem. One problem too, is all of your data is
going to China. But that's not the least, that's not the most of
the problems. The most significant problem is that you've recently seen elect or officials
within our federal government come out and warn about the fact that it's basically a
fi op tool. You have a fi op tool from the Chinese Communist Party
in your pocket. It's capturing enormous amounts of data about you. It can
be used to persuade you. They can push down things they don't want you
to see that are negative to the Chinese Communist Party, and they can elevate
things they do want you to see that are you know, negative about the
United States or anything that they want to you know, push it as a
feature called the heating feature. It's it's been well documented. So yeah,
I'm not at all surprised that that's yet another angle of it because it helps
the Chinese Communist Party. So yeah, TikTok should be banned. You know.
Now all of this is alleged, but just I encourage folks, don't
take my word for it. Go see the recent testimony from scaysor director Jen
Easterly an FBI director Christopher Ray to Congress. Just in the last week or
so. They cover a lot of topics related to China and the CCP threat
to the United States, including critical infrastructure, which we've talked about numerous times.
It's pretty hair raising, honestly. Well, one more thing I wanted
to broach with you real quick talking to Dave had Her on the Nightcap on
seven hundred WLW. Why does anybody need a smart toilet? Apparently Kohler has
a brand new revolutionary smart toilet that they are advertising, I guess of building
up to Super Bowl ads or whatever. And I mean, what exactly what
advantage would a smart toilet bring the average person? You're asking the wrong guy,
Garret. Yeah, you know that. You know how I feel about
all these Internet of Things devices. You know. I'll go mind, folks,
make a hyphonent who's a well known cybersecurity expert, coin the law opponent's
law. If it's smart, it's vulnerable. So right off the bat,
I would say something like this is just crazy, straight out of the gate.
It's just one more thing you don't need that's going to create potential security
and privacy problems for you. But I'm assuming, as a quote smart toilet
unquote that part of what it's doing, is, you know, analyzing your
excrement and such. And I would just remind people, go take a look
at what recently happened with twenty three and B do you really think that it
makes sense for you to give your sensitive health data, especially things like information
about your DNA to a third party who then easily has breached and all your
data is out there now. I don't know what a hacker or a nation
state actor could do. But now, if you want to go back to
our friends in the Chinese Communist Party, could they use your DNA information to
engineer up a virus in a lab specifically designed to kill you? I don't
know. I'm not a biologist or a virologist, but I do know that
having that kind of information on tens of thousands to millions of Americans is probably
not beneficial to those people. So yeah, the whole idea of a smart
toilet to me is absolutely insane. There's no chance, absolutely no chance.
And I just can't stress this strongly enough to people that I would provide any
time. You know, I'm not going to use coligark, I'm not going
to use twenty three and meteris, I'm not going to use any company that
is a private company collecting this kind of information. Because we don't have a
national privacy law, there's really no consequences in these companies when they're breached.
I mean, yeah, they're twenty three and me thing, they got a
black eye. But you're the one that suffers because it's your data totout there.
So you know, Garrett, Jeff, we've you have me on many
times that we've talked about privacy so many times, and we recently discussed this
Plum Foundation, which is a Cincinnati based organization trying to raise awareness about privacy.
I mean, this is a perfect topic and the kind of thing we're
trying to help people understand. Don't put any more information out there about yourself
than you absolutely positively need to because at the moment, we're not at a
place where it's protected adequately, and you are the one that suffers the consequences
of having your data leak, whether it's identity seft, they impersonates you to
take over your accounts and steal your money or who knows what down the road.
Yeah, my advice is less information out you about you out there rather
the better, and not a chance I would use a smart toilet. It's
shit, totally insane as far as right right, Dave Hadter says, use
an old fashioned toilet and cover your ass. Oh exactly. So this woman
in Maryland lost seventeen thousand dollars in a sim card swap in a scam,
and she was using multi factor authentication, but it's still she still got swindled
out of that money. How's that one? Yeah, this is this is
an important story because, first off, even when you know you can read
this headline and easily be confused by the idea that, well, maybe I
shouldn't use multi factor authentication telling it, you should use multi factor authentication anywhere
and everywhere you can. Now, there are different ways to apply it.
Most people are using it to text to their phone. I'm gonna come back
to that in a second, and that's how she got hacked. I also
want to say that, you know, there are ways to get around multi
factor authentication. It's not bulletproof, but you're raising the bar much much higher
for the bad guys, and in most cases they're just going to move on
to a softer target. Right. They want to steal money. They want
to steal as much money as flippit as they can, they don't want to
have to work at it in most cases. So one of the ways that
they get around multi factor authentication though, is this text based MFA or two
factor authentication. Right, that's what most people are familiar with. That's how
this originally rolled out. To get a log into your bank, you Internet
use it. Every password, it sends you what's nose the one time pass
code, usually a six digit number that rotates every thirty seconds, and you
have to inter that the log in. Right. Hopefully everyone is familiar with
this idea. Well. One of the ways to defeat that is SIM swapping.
And people say, well, you know, well, how does that
work? How could that happen to me? I would just remind you,
even someone who is very technologically say, I have a Jack Dorsey, the
original founder of Puyer with simswap. And one of the ways that happens to
people is you have a lot of data out there about yourself. It gets
leaked, it gets breached, and I have enough information through maybe one or
more sources of breached leaked lost information about you that I can impersonate you.
So when I call verize them, when I call T Mobile, when I
call at and T and I say, you know, I'm such and such
and they say, you know, and this is at works. I'm such
and such. I bought a new phone. I need to transfer the phone
number from the old phone to my new phone. Right, it's not physically
swapping the SIM card out in this case, they're literally impersonating you and transferring
your phone number to a different physical device, at which point they can go
to the website and you know, they see certain information from your phone,
or they've already got that information, and they view the old well, I
want to change my password, and then it wants to send a two factor
authentication code. All that stuff is now going to the new phone. It's
not going to you on your old phone, which suddenly gets disconnected. And
by the way, if your phone suddenly will not connect to the cellular network,
that is a very strong red spike. You've been simswapped, and you
should immediately reach out to your provider and attempt to have them figure out what's
going on. There is no real defense for this, Gary Jeff, except
for to the extent your carrier provides it is to have some sort of secondary
authentication method with them, like a pin number. Verizon will let you enter
a separate pin and it will not switch your phone number from one phone to
another unless you can provide that pin. So Yeah, unfortunately they simswap this
one and then we're able to get into our accounts and steal seventeen thousand dollars.
It's a real problem. You know. If the average person going to
be targeted for this, probably not because it takes some work. But if
someone knows you have money, you're talking about having money, and if you've
had your data leaked to breach and or you don't use any of these security
mechanisms we're talking about, it's very well within the remo possibility you can have
your money stolen well. And I have never Dave, I have never been
happier about the fact that I literally have no money. Well, that definitely
reduces your risky certainly does. I love this next story too, Dave,
And we'll probably spend oh gosh, the next five six minutes that we have
talking about this. The Federal Trade Commission is they've they've gotten comments from people
and they're finding out that we'll find out soon if they're going to take any
action on the right to repair. If you own something, you buy something,
you ostensibly are supposed to own it, and you should be able to
be able to fix it if you want to fix it if it breaks down,
whether it's your call, whether it's a smartphone, a tractor, a
computer. If something breaks, you should be able to fix it yourself or
choose who who can take care of this for you. And of course especially
with cars, you know the rolling computers on wheels where people used to be
able to work on their own car. It's virtually impossible now for any kind
of new car for you to work on it, but you should be able
to. And the FTC is considering making rules that would give the consumer the
right to repair something that they own, right, Yeah, this has been
an ongoing battle for some time, Garry Jeff. And one last comment on
that last segment are the stem swapping and so forth. Again, if you
find your phone suddenly will not connect, strong indication something bad is up,
you should contact your carrier. And I would strongly encourage everyone out there connect
with your cell, your carrier, whoever that is, and see if you
can what what mechanisms they provide to you know, for to try to block
sim swapping, because I think you're going to see a rise in it as
more people's data is breached, so you know, something to keep in mind,
but get right to repair. This is a concept that's been around for
a while as all of our devices, like you're a smart toilet, you
know, I don't even know if you could call a plumber on that,
Gary Jets. You might have to call like a computer technician. Thing jams
up, you know, and then when they get there and they say,
oh, well you can't. You can't work on it because we have our
intellectual property in the software and the toilet. So yeah, you're not going
to be able to flush that. That's the kind of thing we're talking about
here. John Deere has become famous because you go out and buy a new
tractor, you know, expensive farm tractor. It's full of software, and
they tell you, well, you can't work on it yourself because you're violating
our intellectual property. People may have heard the term digital rights management and the
Digital Rights Management Act. These things all kind of intersect and complict with each
other, and so this has been an ongoing battle really, you know,
for the past maybe decade or so, as people increasingly realize our so called
smart devices are full of software and the companies that make them your car for
example. I also encourage people go check out Mozilla, the Firefox browser people.
They did a report not too long ago. I think we talked about
it on all the crazy privacy problems with new cars. It's going to blow
most people's minds. If you go to Mozilla Privacy not Included, you can
find the link there. But you know, it's exactly the way you described
it. You know, you buy a new car, it's full of software.
You can't hardly work on it yourself, and then if you try to
do anything to it or take it to certain shops that aren't approved, they
don't want you to work on it because they're telling you. You know,
they tell you, well, you're violating our rights to our intellectual property.
I'm trying to make this as simple as possible for people to understand. So
the FTC recently had a comment period about this. Apparently it's closed, but
lots of organizations like the Electronic Frontier Foundation have been battling this for some time,
and I think some headway being made because recently Apple has come out in
favor of this, and they've been one of the organizations. While I'm generally
more of an Apple fan than most of their competitors. They're generally more privacy
and security for me than others. They have actually now sort of reverse course
and come out in favor of right to repair. So when people hear the
term right to repair, that's what it's talking about. You have bought a
product, You own the product, despite the fact that it has software in
it, and you have the right to try to repair it yourself or take
it to someone else who has the skills and capabilities to work on it,
rather than being forced into you know, I got to go back to John
Deere or Apple or whomever else. So, yeah, it's long ever due
Garry, Jeff. We need this. We needed this for a long time.
And eff eff what Dave? We lost Dave. I don't know why,
hold we lost you just but listen, Dave, we're almost out of
time. Eff. Is something people should remember when it comes to this story
on right to repair, right, Yeah, when you talk about privacy quick
they're one of the leading organizations out there, the FS. I just appreciate
the fact that in talking about the smart toilet and repairing a smart toilet,
you said, jammed up. Uh, you gotta have a little levity garret
jet or you lose your mind on that. You have a great rest of
the evening, what's left of it, and we'll talk to you soon.
Thank you. Dave Hatter with us on the night cap of seven Utter WLW.
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