WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.640 W Garry Jeff Walker sitting down, check and end for this February six, 2 00:00:03.799 --> 00:00:11.599 twenty twenty four. Good to view this. Some news notes from today from 3 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:16.199 the Babylon b one of my favorite news sources of satire and political tumor. 4 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:22.679 New Senate anti murder bill caps murders at five thousand per day. You see 5 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:27.000 what they're doing there right? In a landmark compromise between Democrats and Republicans, 6 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:30.800 the Senators set to vote on a new anti murder bill that will limit the 7 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:35.880 allowed murders to only five thousand per day. The bill will also send sixty 8 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:40.759 billion to Ukraine, fifteen billion to Israel, and another one hundred billion to 9 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:46.240 Iran. Democrats wanted more murder, and we wanted less. We feel this 10 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:52.399 is a reasonable compromise, said Senator Mitch McConnell to reporters before staring blankly at 11 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:56.439 the cameras for ten minutes straight. Every day, once we hit five thousand 12 00:00:56.520 --> 00:00:59.880 killings, that's it. No more killing, and we're going to be strict 13 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:03.480 to about that. Some conservatives in Congress have challenged the language and the bill, 14 00:01:03.760 --> 00:01:08.239 suggesting that zero murders would be a preferable number. I don't know do 15 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:12.079 we have to have murder at all? Set of confused Ted Cruz like murderer 16 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.640 is bad and stuff. Maybe zero would be better number than five thousand. 17 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:23.000 Cruise was quickly condemned by every journalist on his show Mourning Joe as a shameful 18 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:29.280 partisan. At publishing time, senators had reassured their biggest pro murdered donors that 19 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:37.439 the bill wouldn't solve everything. That's unbelievable and it's so true as to this 20 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:41.480 immigration crap they tried to push through in the Senate as well, which would 21 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:46.640 legalize the invasion that is still going on on our southern border in this country. 22 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.159 More on that with Richard c Lyons a little bit later on tonight, 23 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:53.959 author of The DNA of Democracy and Shadows of the Acropolis. We'll also have 24 00:01:53.040 --> 00:02:00.359 Dave Hatter in for a turn of tech talk, including smart toilets, our 25 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:05.239 fitness trainer, biohacker, rock O Costelano back for a Tuesday night cap, 26 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:12.120 and an hour of sports for those who are out of sorts. Wildman Walker, 27 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:16.039 and Andy Furman packed the ten o'clock hour up next. Lee watts Man, 28 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:22.919 who has been chaplain at the Kentucky State House for fifteen years. He 29 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:27.759 is a preacher and he also is a host of his own podcast called Patriot 30 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:32.360 Point. Lee Watts coming up next as we get just started. On seven 31 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:39.039 hundred WLW, A good day starts with a good morning. Here's Stephanie, 32 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:45.759 a fashion model who started her own successful lingerie line. But she doesn't spend 33 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:50.439 her morning lying around in negligeays. She has a business to run. She 34 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:54.280 has her coffee per spreadsheets, and Mike McConnell good mor night gives her the 35 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:58.840 latest news, weather, traffic, business updates, and always a couple of 36 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:04.319 laughs. More. The Queen of the g String asked for Mike McConnell tomorrow 37 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:07.639 morning at five on seven hundred w LW. We're looking for a super offer 38 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:15.960 for Super Bowl Champlain two the Kentucky State Legislature in Frankfort. He is the 39 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:21.840 the Watchful Eye of uh. He's a representative of the watchful Eye of God 40 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:27.479 on your legislatures in the Commonwealth for now fifteen years, and he joins us 41 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.199 as our first guest, Lee Watts, how are you this evening, sir? 42 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:34.599 I am great, Thank you for having me on tonight. So tell 43 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:38.719 me a little bit about your your personal mission when it comes to our state 44 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:42.960 legislature in the state of Kentucky, the Commonwealth, What do you what do 45 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:46.240 you? What are your what are your functions? What do you do well? 46 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:47.800 I did well. It really goes back to what I did before. 47 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:53.840 I was in the US military station overseas and God called me to be a 48 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:58.759 missionary back to my home country. And I'm from Kentucky, and I said, 49 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:01.960 well, missionaries work received Lord, and he pressed upon my heart that 50 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:08.080 the greatest mission field right now is the United States. And so come back 51 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:11.599 to Kentucky with my home state. And there was a fellow who served as 52 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:15.720 chaplain for twenty eight years and he was falling ill and needed someone to replace 53 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:20.120 him, so he trained me and I continue that. So my mission up 54 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:25.680 at the capital is really severalfold. It's first of all, to be eyes 55 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:30.079 and ears for the churches of Kentucky. We've had some bills we've seen before 56 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:34.600 in the last few years where the governor shut down churches ten days before he 57 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:40.120 tried to close anything. We've had bills in the past that affect Christian schools, 58 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:43.279 and we had a bill a few years ago that would have me make 59 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:47.160 it illegal to display at Christmas Tree because of the illegal non Christians, but 60 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:50.839 that got shot down. So I keep an eye and ear out for different 61 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:56.319 legislation that deals with religious liberty and try to spread word to the churches and 62 00:04:56.399 --> 00:05:00.839 Christians across the state. And then I also try to serve as a witness 63 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.319 for Jesus Christ up in the capitol. I do Bible studies, I do 64 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:08.720 a lot of counseling like a pastor would, and just kind of try to 65 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:13.399 be a voice for Christ and ears and eyes for the churches. Do you 66 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.639 have fairly good attendance among the legislators? I mean, do you have a 67 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:21.680 lot of interest? Yes. I've been doing this again for fifteen years now, 68 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:25.879 and at some of the weekly Bible studies I do, we've had as 69 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:30.199 many as fifty plus legislators come, and considering there's only one hundred and thirty 70 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:34.199 eight of them, it can be a fairly good percentage. So we do 71 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:39.439 have Christians in office. We do have some good people up there. Now, 72 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:42.560 don't get me wrong, we do have some dirty skunks, but there 73 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:46.480 are some actually good, God fearing people up there as well. Well. 74 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.600 I mean, anybody can become a Christian. I mean, just look at 75 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:54.560 Saul on the road to Damascus to persecute Christians. I know that's often my 76 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:57.600 prayer for some of those who are really giving the churches a hard time, 77 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:03.600 is that they would specifically have those Damascus Road type experiences. And I'm pleased 78 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:08.680 to report that over the years of ministry up there been able to lead several 79 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:13.519 legislators and some staff members another to the Lord right there in the Capitol building, 80 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:18.160 including the former Lieutenant Governor Janeine Hanton. Now, how are how are 81 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:21.319 you? Are you compensated at all? I know you're not an employee of 82 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:28.319 the Commonwealth of Kentucky, but I mean, do you have compensation? No. 83 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:30.800 Twice during my time up here, some of different people in office had 84 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:34.959 offered to make me the official chaplain, like some other states have. I 85 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:39.879 turned it down because if the state pays you, then the state is who 86 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:43.439 you're working for, and they like to control what you say. So I 87 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.360 take no money from the state at all. My compensation, what I live 88 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:51.879 on in my family is from different individuals and churches across the state that support 89 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:57.160 us like a missionary on a foreign field, and that makes me answerable to 90 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:00.680 the churches and to God, and I think that's the way it should be 91 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:05.199 instead of being paid by the state. Well, it's amazing that Andy Basher 92 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:13.480 actually tried to stop church worship in the height of the COVID scare. But 93 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:18.360 yes he did. He was defeated in that legally right. A lot of 94 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.680 people aren't aware of that, that the court's ruled and said you never had 95 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:27.639 any authority to ever close the churches down. And it was three years later, 96 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:30.879 in the year twenty twenty three, this last year, that the ruling 97 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:36.720 came down to find him twenty five thousand dollars for violating the constitutional freedom of 98 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:41.519 religion for doing that. But of course that part didn't get a whole lot 99 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:46.000 of attention. Well we're giving it some more attention tonight, Lee. So 100 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:53.879 and so the thing, hopefully we can pun intended use this as a vaccine 101 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:58.720 and in case we ever get any governor in the future trying to close churches, 102 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:03.639 let it be known the courts have officially said they do not have that 103 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:09.920 authority. The freedom of religion and the freedom of assembly would prevent anybody from 104 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:15.000 ever closing down the churches. Well that's that's remarkable, and just need to 105 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:18.600 stay vigilant and make sure that they don't attempt it again, because that's true. 106 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:22.720 One of the things I love to do is I love to bring churches, 107 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:26.759 Sunday school classes and senior groups and churches up to the capital. And 108 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.399 if you'd ever like to come up, contact me and I'll bring you up, 109 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:35.039 show you around the building, and introduce you to your senator and your 110 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:41.399 representative. It's a great way for Christians to establish a relationship with those who 111 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:46.159 are making the laws. So when Lord forbid situations like this come up in 112 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:52.279 the future, they'll already have those relationship established with the people who are making 113 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.279 the decisions. And if any group would like to do that, I don't 114 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:58.679 charge the scent for it. Reach out to me and we can set that 115 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.279 up for you for free. All right, that'd be really cool. I've 116 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.320 never been to Frankfort, and I would love to see where the sausage is 117 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:09.639 made. Oh yes, and it is. Sometimes it's where the magic happens, 118 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:13.159 and other times where the sausage is made. And if you look through 119 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.039 the building, you see there'll be statues and paintings, and there are wonderful 120 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:20.639 stories of faith as why this statue is here and why this painting is here, 121 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:26.120 Kentucky actually has a very rich Christian heritage. Can you tell me a 122 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:31.360 little bit about this podcast I've seen you on this Patriot Point? Is that 123 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.320 what is called Patriot Point? Yes, Patriot Point is something I started during 124 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:39.759 twenty twenty when the governor started shutting down the churches and I'm like, nobody 125 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:46.519 is pushing back saying what's happening is illegal and unconstitutional, and I needless to 126 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:50.840 say, immoral and what he's doing. So I started a program called Patriot 127 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:54.919 Point each week and I try to give you the news of what is happening 128 00:09:54.240 --> 00:10:01.759 in Kentucky from a conservative, Christian and constitutional point you and that you can 129 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:07.200 find that on YouTube do new programs every Friday morning. It's also on bitshoot 130 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:13.759 Rumble on about thirty radio stations across the state, and it's also on WBNATV 131 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:16.759 out of Louisville. So the Lord's really blessed that over the years to get 132 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:20.759 word out on different issues. Now, have you had any kickback as anyone 133 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:28.480 threatened to deplatform you on YouTube or anything like that. Yes, back during 134 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:33.279 the pandemic, YouTube was so bold that they sent me a notice saying that 135 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:37.960 I keep violating their standards because I was pushing back and that they will no 136 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:43.399 longer send my program to all of my subscribers, and so that is what 137 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:48.080 we call shadow banning. To shadow ban something somebody is one thing. To 138 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:52.559 have the audacity to send them a note telling them you're doing that is quite 139 00:10:52.559 --> 00:11:00.320 another. But despite this, it continues to grow. We have about twelve 140 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:05.480 thousand subscribers now. On the one I suspect it might be more because when 141 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:11.200 Elon Musk bought Twitter, all of a sudden, overnight, conservative commentators had 142 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:16.759 their subscribers grow tenfold, So I'm kind of thinking we might actually have more 143 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:22.360 than twelve thousand. But that's still a pretty good sum of people who are 144 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.840 now getting informed and involved, and that's what we really need. Ignorance and 145 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:31.200 apathy are killing us as a nation. So this patriot Point takes about ten 146 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:35.559 minutes a week to tell you what's going on in Kentucky where you can stay 147 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:37.840 informed, and then we always tell you what you can do to make a 148 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.480 difference. Well, Lee, wats can I just do a quick survey of 149 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:46.200 some political points and ask you your opinion on things that are going on not 150 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:50.440 just in Kentucky but around the country. Yeah, take it for whatever you 151 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:56.519 think it's worth, but fire away, all right. So the illegal immigration 152 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:01.480 crisis, the invasion that's going on right now and has been allowed to go 153 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:07.480 on by this particular administration, where do you come down on that? And 154 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:13.639 I understand that every person is made in the image of God. I get 155 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:18.759 that, But don't you believe that we have to have real borders to be 156 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:24.240 to remain a countryle it was? President Reagan has said a country without borders 157 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:28.399 will quickly not become a country. And I always like to base all my 158 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.879 opinions on biblical principle. And we can see a biblical principle about this in 159 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:37.600 the Book of Nehemiah, where the Jews had been conquered, their living in 160 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.279 oppression, and we have a fellow named Nehemiah gets a burden to rebuild his 161 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:46.559 hometown of Jerusalem, capital of the nation. And what is the first thing 162 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:52.759 he does is he builds the wall to secure the people of Israel and have 163 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:56.399 Jerusalem. So we've got to do that, and there's a biblical principle for 164 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:00.360 that. If you actually look in the Bible that says there is a wall 165 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:05.320 that surrounds heaven, you'll notice Hell does not have a wall. So I 166 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:11.519 am all for immigration, I am against invasion. Up of the Kentucky State 167 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:16.279 Legislature, they passed a resolution just this past week supporting Governor Greg Abbott of 168 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:24.200 Texas in securing our southern border, and so I was as a heated debate, 169 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:26.320 but I was very happy to see that we had several that were supporting 170 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:31.080 him then that and that it's key if we don't support that. We had 171 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:37.399 just last year more than three hundred people who are on the FBI's terror watch 172 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:43.360 list get caught coming across the border. And there was more than three point 173 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:50.080 two million illegals that invaded across our southern border in just fiscal year twenty twenty 174 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:54.440 three. And I get those statistics from the Kentucky State Legislature who mentioned that 175 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:58.440 during the debate last week. So this is a massive invasion and it should 176 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:03.279 have been handled years ago, and I'd be all for deploying the military and 177 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:07.240 security immediately. Donald Trump should be and will be on the ballot in Kentucky 178 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:09.679 if he is the nominee of the Republican Party. There's no question about that. 179 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:20.440 These efforts to deplatform Trump on you know, really questionable questionable charges and 180 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:24.720 the like, what's your take on that? Lee, Well, I figure 181 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:28.240 this and we've seen this happen in a few leftist controlled states where they're taking 182 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:31.559 him off the ballot. That says a few different things. That says, 183 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:33.879 we know we can't defeat this guy, so the only way to do it 184 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.720 is to take him off the ballot. This issue is on its way to 185 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:43.080 the United States Supreme Court. I fully expect the Supreme Court to say this 186 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.279 is illegal as all get out, and you're not allowed to remove a candidate 187 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:52.960 from the ballot. So I would be highly opposed to that. I wouldn't 188 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.480 even want them to remove Joe Biden from the ballot because that's simply that's that's 189 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:01.360 as crooked as the day, as long as much grandfather used to say. 190 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:05.320 But I do expect the Supreme Court to reverse those state decisions. We should 191 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:13.480 continue our support for Israel to protect its statehood. The Bible says that in 192 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.799 the Book of Genesis, God is talking to Abraham. Now, you have 193 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:20.639 to be careful when you read the Old Testament because many of the promises that 194 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:24.159 are made are made specifically to the Jewish people, and we as the Church 195 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:28.240 or as Gentiles can't claim the promises that were made to the Jews. But 196 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:33.240 in the Book of Genesis we see something specifically told to us Gentiles, which 197 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:37.799 I imagine is most of your listeners, and that God talking to Abraham that 198 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:41.639 is going to be the father of the Jewish nation, and he says, 199 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:45.559 I will bless them, that bless THEE, and I will curse them that 200 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:50.360 curses thee. So by blessing the nation of is Israel, Abraham's descendants, 201 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.919 God says, you'll get blessings from that. So I think we definitely need 202 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.840 to stand with and support Israel. If you actually look on their voting history 203 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:06.600 in the UN they stand with us more than even the United Kingdom, probably 204 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:11.399 our next closest ally. So I think we will definitely get blessings for that. 205 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:15.320 And the Bible also says specifically in the Psalms that we are to pray 206 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:19.720 for the peace of Jerusalem. That wasn't a suggestion, that's a command. 207 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:25.879 So I highly encourage the Christians throughout the state to be praying for the piece 208 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:30.320 of Jerusalem and maybe work with our public officials that have the United States support 209 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:33.960 Israel. Lee Watch It's been a blessing thank you for agreeing to come on, 210 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.720 and we'll do this again sometime. I hope I will look forward to 211 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:41.080 it again. If anybody would like to watch my program Patriot Point on YouTube, 212 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:45.279 I'd love to have you there, all right, fantastic Lee Watts chaplain 213 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:51.320 to the Kentucky State Legislature. On the nightcap, we'll take a break in 214 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:57.960 Rock seven HUNDLW Garry Jeff and our old pal Roco Costelano on the phone tonight. 215 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:03.679 It's great to have It's lovely to see your face, Rocco, in 216 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:08.400 person, but you know what, I've seen enough of your face to imagine 217 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:11.319 you in front of me while we're on the phone. How about that. 218 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:17.880 And no, this is not a zoom or FaceTime call, so Roco Costellano. 219 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:23.039 Tonight we are talking about Pfizer, Maderna, Johnson, and Johnson, 220 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:30.160 the three major makers of the COVID nineteen Frankensteinshotz I like to call them the 221 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:34.279 vaccines that they've been pushing on the American public for the last three years. 222 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:38.640 Well, looks like they're in a little bit of hot water now thanks to 223 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:45.720 Texas and several other states who are suing them not for injuries caused by their 224 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:49.000 vaccines, of which we know there have been many and there continue to be 225 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:57.960 injuries from people taking the jabs, but for false advertising, for fraud almost 226 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:03.160 sounds like an FT case here that Texas and other states have been bringing against 227 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:08.680 these vaccine manufacturers. So give me an update, and I'll start by letting 228 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:15.279 a reminding people who don't I don't know who have not mastered the art of 229 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:22.200 coloring inside the lines in their third grade books. But no for people who 230 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:27.599 don't know vaccine makers. Vaccine makers, since nineteen eighty six, by a 231 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:34.559 law in Congress, have been immune from prosecution or from any kind of lawsuits 232 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:38.880 for injuries caused by their vaccines. This is something totally different. So Roco, 233 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:44.759 good evening, how are you and how's your face? Great? Great? 234 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:49.200 But I want to tell you that in nineteen eighty six when they did 235 00:18:49.880 --> 00:19:00.079 do that, the crazy thing about that whole amnesty and giving them unity from 236 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:08.519 our prosecution and all that was because the vaccine manufacturers were making vaccines that hurt 237 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:17.759 people, and the and the federal government and the state governments still wanted these 238 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:23.680 people to make vaccines to vaccinate children, but they still hurt people. And 239 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:30.759 so when they were hurting people, they were getting sued by the public, 240 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:37.079 right and then and then they were like, well, well, we still 241 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:45.559 want these things that hurt hurt the children and hurt adults, but so we're 242 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:57.039 going to have to figure out a way because the injuries don't far outweigh the 243 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:06.720 so called health benefits. And so when there but they were still hunting people. 244 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:10.720 So they said, well, you're going to have to you know, 245 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:17.599 immune us from uh from a prosecution, and that and that and the and 246 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:23.559 the actual talks started about two years before in in the office in the Oval 247 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:30.559 office, Reagan. Yeah, and then they said and they and they and 248 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:37.000 Reagan literally said why can't you make safer vaccines? And what did they say? 249 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:45.000 And to see the pharmaceutical CEOs said well, well, I'm mister president, 250 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:55.559 they're unavoidably unsafe. So that the unavoidably they know, they know their 251 00:20:55.680 --> 00:21:02.039 adverse effects from their vaccines, they know that they are patent unsafe, and 252 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.839 yet they still want to push their poison because there's a lot of money. 253 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:11.640 And I wonder how many of those Congressmen in nineteen eighty six who voted to 254 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:18.960 make these vaccine makers immune from lawsuits I wonder how much money Peizer and the 255 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:23.960 rest of them were paying them then on the sly so that through lobbyists and 256 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:29.799 the like to make sure that their cash flow continued. Now that would know, 257 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:36.039 seriously, vaccine makers like Pfizer, Johnson and Johnson Maderna, anybody who's 258 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:42.759 making a vaccine, they absolutely have a profound effect on the American economy. 259 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:48.279 There's no question because there's so much there's so much money being made in the 260 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:55.960 advertising, there's so much money being made in kickbacks doctors and health organizations. 261 00:21:56.279 --> 00:22:00.359 There's so much money changing hands that they're not going to kill that cash cow 262 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:08.680 if they can help it. Because there's not a there's not a dollar that 263 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:15.279 doesn't have a pharmaceutical company on it. Right, So when you're looking at 264 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:22.160 the radio, at radio advertisement, at at our TV advertisement, YouTube gets 265 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:30.319 paid millions, hundreds of millions of dollars from Pisa, Maderna, buy in 266 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:38.880 tech Astrasenka, all these When we are going to you know, uh, 267 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:47.839 like participate in really anything, we have pharmaceutical dollars paying for that. And 268 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:52.240 that's why, and that's why I'm so I was so excited to get unlike 269 00:22:52.440 --> 00:23:00.119 a five year old on Christmas Day when I hear that that Tekes this that 270 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:10.400 that that Attorney General Kemp Paxton from Texas has has brought down a fifty eight 271 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:19.359 count lawsuit against the pharmaceutical companies and not for vaccine injury. That was what 272 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:25.319 was so wonderful because they know that they're going to lose that case, right, 273 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:30.000 But there's been so many vaccine injuries. I mean, I know, 274 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:34.720 I don't know if you know, but I know personally about twelve people now 275 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:45.640 that have that have actual vaccine injuries from these COVID I know personally sudden deaths 276 00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:52.319 that have been linked to the vaccine sudden deaths. That's right. You told 277 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:55.720 me that. That's right, you told me about the sudden deaths. I'm 278 00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:59.920 you know, I deal with a lot of the injuries in my clinic, 279 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.720 you know, So so I got to fix these people. And I've had 280 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:11.440 I've had conversations with our doctor Pierre Corey and also a Peter McCollough just just 281 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:18.759 to understand how I can help my clients. Right. So, now, 282 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:23.599 Ken Paxton, they're going after the pharmaceutical companies, which is uh, it's 283 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:32.319 such a wonderful thing for actual fraud because the vaccines. We know now, 284 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:37.720 right like three years later, we know that the vaccines or the shots or 285 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:42.400 whatever you want to call them did not work the way that they said that 286 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:48.960 they were going to work. We heard from Joe Biden himself that they were 287 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:56.759 going to help help to to stop the spread and to stop infection. And 288 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:00.920 they did it, neither of them. So now they're going and they're getting 289 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:06.799 sued for actual fraud. Yeah, well here's here's it's part part partly is 290 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:14.480 the greatest partly fraud and conspiring to censor public discourse, which we have Pfiser 291 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:19.000 memos to uh, you know, big tech outlets like YouTube and the others, 292 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:26.799 to you know, classify any questioning of the efficacy of COVID vaccines as 293 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:33.119 miss as misinformation and the like, and to keep that from the public. 294 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.279 Pfiser. This is what the lawsuit says from the Texas Attorney Ginal General Ken 295 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:47.599 Paxton Piser. Pfiser engaged in false, deceptive, and misleading acts and practices 296 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:52.799 by making unsupported claims regarding the company's COVID nineteen vaccine in violation of the Texas 297 00:25:52.799 --> 00:26:00.759 Deceptive Trade Practices Act. The pharmaceutical companies widespread representation that it's vaccine possessed ninety 298 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:08.680 five percent efficacy against infection was highly misleading. The metric represented a calculation of 299 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:15.119 the so called relative risk reduction for vaccinated individuals in Pfiser's initial two month clinical 300 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:22.119 trial two months they went through two months of clinical trials for a vaccine a 301 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:32.759 yeah. FDA publications indicate relative risk reduction is a misleading statistic that unduly influences 302 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:40.559 consumer choice. The FDA publications indicate that Peiser was also put on notice at 303 00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:47.400 that time that vaccine protection could not accurately be protected beyond two months. Nevertheless, 304 00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:52.160 Pfeiser fostered a misleading impression that vaccine protection was durable and withheld from the 305 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:59.319 public information that undermined its claims about the duration of protection. And despite the 306 00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:03.759 fact that its clinical trial failed to measure whether the vaccine protects against transmission, 307 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:10.440 Pfizer embarked on a campaign to intimidate the public into getting the vaccine as a 308 00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:15.640 necessary measure to protect their loved ones. And what's sad about this roco is 309 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.920 that Pfiser not only did this with a wink and a nod from the federal 310 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:26.559 government and these health departments but also media outlets who were in bed with Pfizer 311 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:33.599 and big Obese government to cover up the fact that it did not work your 312 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:40.279 foot. They were getting paid hundreds and hundreds of the billions of dollars now 313 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:45.160 that we know, they were absolutely getting paid, and they couldn't say anything. 314 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:51.559 That's the reason why guys like Tucker Carlson got you know, well and 315 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:57.680 the war and and a Ukraine. But they were talking against all this, 316 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:03.640 you know, all this stuff against the vaccines, and then you know, 317 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.599 they started to get a deplatformed, they started to get fired, I mean, 318 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:14.559 and yeah, and so so anybody. And that's where like this whole 319 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:19.880 nineteen eighty eighty four kind of things are going on because they're trying to censor 320 00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:30.839 any any discourse whatsoever on what happened with these vaccines and where you know, 321 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:36.599 and there's people starting finally, I mean, after after all of this, 322 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:44.160 they're finally starting to wake up. It seems like people were just inundated with 323 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:51.759 bad decisions. Every single person out there was doing something that was going to 324 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:59.599 harm them. And then and then you know, you get sick, you 325 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:04.160 get you get dead, right and then and then all of a sudden, 326 00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:11.599 uh, there's people waking up and they and they're taking notice, and and 327 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:17.680 it's not just and what's it was really crazy is that it's it's it's not 328 00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:22.680 just conservatives that care about this stuff. You're seeing a lot of the you 329 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:30.799 know of like rep mainstream liberals out there going Nope, this is really bad. 330 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:34.319 This is really bad. And when they're starting to say it's really bad, 331 00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:40.599 it's worse than really bad. Can you can you imagine now now the 332 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:47.920 federal government obviously complicit in this fraud, because absolutely they were. They were 333 00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:52.000 forcing they were forcing members of the military to get jabbed. If they didn't 334 00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:59.559 get jabbed, they got out. And they tried and Joe Biden tried to 335 00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:03.839 make ordinary American citizens who weren't employees of the federal government like me, if 336 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.319 they belonged to a company with one hundred employees or more, that they were 337 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:15.519 going to force them to get jabbed or lose their jobs. This is one 338 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:21.640 of the greatest and I don't mean great by the normal definition of great This 339 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:29.599 is one of the most colossal frauds ever perpetrated on the world, not just 340 00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.799 the American public, but on the world. And it was all for profit, 341 00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:38.960 not for health, not for saving lives, none of that other garbage 342 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:45.480 that was pushed down our throats for three years and continues to be pushed down 343 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:51.920 our throats by big money, big pharma. Travis Travis, Travis Kelcey, 344 00:30:52.640 --> 00:31:00.960 Travis kelce He made twenty He made twenty million dollars himself for a period money. 345 00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:07.920 Yeah, he makes more money being in a pfisor and than he does 346 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:18.200 playing professional football. What does that say about what's happening right with with America? 347 00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:25.640 What? You know, these pharmaceutical companies are so embedded in in our 348 00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:33.279 lives that, you know, football players are now now most people. He's 349 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:38.559 got the nickname now, mister Pfiser. He's not even you know, he's 350 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:45.839 not even a Taylor Swift's boyfriend anymore. He's he's called mister Pfiser, you 351 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:51.440 know, because he's getting paid so much money. If if he got married, 352 00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:55.440 he would become mister Swift. There's no question about that, because we 353 00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:59.880 know ultimate, we know ultimately in that relationship, who wheres the you know, 354 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:04.759 supposed pants And it ain't him who has the jockstaff? And well, 355 00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:09.599 okay, let's let's let's not get into your weird fetishes. Okay, I'm 356 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:20.440 not gonna let's just report on what we can see. Jeez. So so 357 00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.119 anyway, this is big news, uh and well, and no one's gonna 358 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:29.079 talk about it like that's the whole thing, what I mean, who are 359 00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.240 we nobody we chopped? Ever, of course we're talking about what I mean, 360 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:37.359 like, no, we're talking about it, right exactly. There's other 361 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:44.319 there's other a local uh stations that all are talking about it. But it's 362 00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:49.119 not gonna be on you know, NBC, ABC, of course, CBS 363 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.279 or you know, or even Fox News, you know. I mean, 364 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.880 they're they're all rocco. They're all too busy trying to put Donald Trump in 365 00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:01.720 jail to talk about something that really matters to the American public, like the 366 00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:07.839 fact the fact that the greatest snake oil salesman in the history of snake oil 367 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:15.319 salesman happens to be wearing a Peiser cap, right exactly. These are just 368 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:21.480 like the people who traveled in the Vaudeville circuits from town to town, toubting 369 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:28.079 that their elixir, their tonic, would cure anything from cancer to impedance. 370 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:32.039 And and Pfiser and Johnson and Johnson Maderna have done the same things, and 371 00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:37.559 I wish nothing but success to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, and I hope 372 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:44.160 they soak them. I hope they sow them for billions upon billions of dollars 373 00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:49.400 because the American public, the world public, has been defrauded by these people 374 00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:55.319 with the greatest grift of all time. The mission is bigger than even what 375 00:33:55.559 --> 00:34:00.559 the Statler family did with eurompeates and what they I mean, this is way 376 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:07.039 bigger than that, you know. And this only happened within a three year 377 00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:14.559 period, when opiates were killing people for ten years. Well, you know 378 00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:19.480 they take that bigger than that. Well, now now the Saddler family has 379 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:24.039 had to settle up and pay their fair share. The opiates are eight dollars. 380 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:30.599 The synthetic opiates are are getting in because of a poorest southern border and 381 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.559 the lack of enforcement of our immigration policies. More on that tonight as we 382 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.840 continue. Roko, thank you for bringing me this really good news tonight. 383 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.880 Oh I was so happy. I was. I was a five year old 384 00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:46.599 on Christmas Day, like I said, to bring this news to you, 385 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:50.960 all right, Roco Costellano, thank you. It's the night cap, and 386 00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:55.440 it continues on seven hundred WLW with the whole hour of Sports for the out 387 00:34:55.440 --> 00:35:00.960 of Sorts. 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And I can think of nobody better to 395 00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:40.119 carry that banner in this half hour than my friend Dennis Wildman Walker, author 396 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:46.599 of Wildman the Book and possibly Are you ready for a close up? Dennis? 397 00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:51.199 What is this? I hear about your book being made into some kind 398 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.119 of documentary? Can you talk about that or not? Oh? Yeah, 399 00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:58.000 great to join you again here Gary, Jeff, Yeah, it's in the 400 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.559 works. I'm meeting here Rock Casino. I never knew the guy he knew 401 00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:05.760 me, and then we started talking, and I happened to have a couple 402 00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:07.960 of copies of my book because I always have them wherever I go, and 403 00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.840 he bought a copy of the book, and then he immediately said, you 404 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:15.599 know, you should this should be on film. We should document this. 405 00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:19.440 So we started talking, and I talked to him a couple of weeks ago 406 00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:21.360 and he said, look, man, I'm all in on this. He 407 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.119 goes, I think we can make this really, really, really big. 408 00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:27.840 So I'm going to meet with him on Saturday. He's been under the weather 409 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.760 for the last week and a half, so it was to meet him earlier. 410 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:32.719 But we're going to meet on Saturday and kind of go over a couple 411 00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:36.920 of things and then just take it from there. Technically, we are all 412 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:42.519 under the weather at all times unless we're in a plane about thirty thousand feet 413 00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.000 of well, you know, in this in this town, I mean, 414 00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.719 the way the weather changes, no wonder people were all sick I reviived the 415 00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:53.280 other day. It's crazy. So I got to ask you, just in 416 00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:59.559 case, who will play the role of me? Well, I don't think 417 00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:00.880 it's going to I don't think it's gonna be more of a I don't know 418 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:07.119 if you ever saw the uh the documentary about Pete Rose called The Crowning of 419 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.480 the Hit King, which basically detailed his life. Yeah, talk to him 420 00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:13.800 and his friends. That's I think that's the I think that's the way we're 421 00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:17.880 going to go. Possibly as have people talk about me that knew me or 422 00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.280 growing up or whatnot. You know, well, I mean, I think 423 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:23.920 that's the drive direction we're going to go. I've I've known you for at 424 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:28.639 least the last twenty plus years. I would love a segment I could. 425 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:32.559 I could definitely, I could definitely contribute to wild Man the movie. Oh 426 00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:37.199 I bet you can't. I know what we're talking about. So anyway, 427 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:45.079 uh you you actually you actually enjoyed the Pro Bowl activities this weekend? The 428 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:49.400 Pro Bowl games, Now I happened. I wasn't watching that, you know, 429 00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:52.880 NonStop, because I was playing on my phone and doing a few things. 430 00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:54.400 But I really like the way the game, and you know, they've 431 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:59.039 kind of gotten people more interested in it. No one got hurt, which 432 00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:01.960 is number one. No one got hurt. It's flag football. Nobody's gonna 433 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:05.519 blitz, you know, when he never could blitz anyway, but nobody try 434 00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:07.400 to tackle a guy, they happen to fall down or get the Thurf Monster 435 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:12.079 get him. So it's a little bit a lot more entertaining than it ever 436 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.440 was. I mean, fifty thousand plus we're in the stands for this, 437 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:21.760 fifty thousand plus watch this game down there, and then they've got these games 438 00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:23.440 that they have, the Tug of War and a number of other games that 439 00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:29.880 people really getting interested. So I think the NFL is finally wised up and 440 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.119 then done something really well for this. I mean, it was entertaining to 441 00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:37.320 watch. It really was. And of course our own Jamar Chase he catches 442 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.119 a touchdown, what does he do? He does an impersonation of Chad Johnson. 443 00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:44.519 He runs over to the television camera, gets up on the board and 444 00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:46.840 back's like he's filming the game. That was great that he did that. 445 00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:52.719 Oh yeah, and I'm sure since it's not an official game, I'm sure 446 00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:57.880 he will not face a fine from the commissioner for that. No fine from 447 00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.480 the commissioner, No, no. But again, no one got injured. 448 00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:04.679 And you know, I hate to harken back to this, but before I 449 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.440 think maybe four or five years ago, when Tyler Eiffert went down there and 450 00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:12.119 got injured, and that pretty much was I just started a slew of injuries 451 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:14.760 for a guy that could have been a Hall of Fame tied end. I 452 00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.599 don't like, you know, I didn't like I'm almost you know, put 453 00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:21.039 out there. I know I did a couple of years ago when Joe Burrow 454 00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:22.400 went, I said, Joe, don't even play fake, like you got 455 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.239 a headache or something. You don't need to be out there getting tackled in 456 00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:29.360 a workless game. But they've done away with that now, which is fine. 457 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:34.599 Yeah, I mean it was really there was no I couldn't understand. 458 00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:38.360 I guess anything that the NFL touches seems to turn to gold and people will 459 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:43.199 watch if it's got the shield there in front of it and is endorsed by 460 00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:46.719 the National Football League. Wild man. But there was absolutely no reason to 461 00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:50.920 watch these previous Pro Bowl games. I mean, they don't. Oh, 462 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:54.480 it was worthless, yeah, workless. You know. It's it's like it's 463 00:39:54.480 --> 00:40:00.719 not even like a practice. It wasn't even as serious as a practice the 464 00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:04.400 way the players went about it. And and the fact of the matter is 465 00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.400 too when you're going at half speed, there's a lot more chance that you're 466 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:10.840 going to get into absolutely and if you're going yeah, yeah, yeah, 467 00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:15.079 trying to avoid an injury. And that's kind of like where the National Hockey 468 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.800 League now is gone. That they're All Star Game. It's almost unwatchable too. 469 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:21.199 I mean they have but you know, the night before they have a 470 00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.800 bunch of skills games. I mean Connor McDavid just dominated in their skills games. 471 00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:28.920 But the game itself though, it's you know, let's put you asleep 472 00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.159 if you have insomnia. What's the National Hockey League All Start Game? Well, 473 00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:35.159 and the NBA All Star Game? What is it? The first first 474 00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.840 team to two hundred wins? Crazy? Well? This year, you know 475 00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:42.599 this year they're going back to the East versus the West, and you won't 476 00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.480 see much defense, but you will see some guys that will light up the 477 00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:50.599 light up to the basket that we're like, well that guy can that guy 478 00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:54.920 can shoot some Speaking of lighting up the baskets, I have never seen the 479 00:40:54.960 --> 00:41:01.280 explosion of fifty and sixty point games by different play in the National Basketball Association 480 00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:05.920 like I've seen this year. And it's just like one after another. Steph 481 00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:10.280 Curry, this guy, that guy you know sixty used to be a real 482 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:17.199 milestone, especially in a regular season NBA game, and now it's like nothing. 483 00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:22.679 They're they're scoring sixty all over the place and every other week in that 484 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:24.960 league. All right, Yeah, this has got to be something that that 485 00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:30.559 you know that the NBA might want to address nothing, because it's just it 486 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:34.079 kind of like taints the game in a way because so many guys can shoot 487 00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.719 that three pointer. I'm not advocating to move the three point line back farther, 488 00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:40.679 but the three point three pointer definitely has made a difference in these guys 489 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.840 being able to score sixty and seventy points. It's it's crazy, it really 490 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.599 is well to me. To me, you go to a regular NBA game, 491 00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.440 there's no defense, hardly plays. They don't start playing defense until the 492 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:58.400 playoffs, right, just like little Joey told Kareem Abdul Jabbar in the movie 493 00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:04.079 Airplane, my dad says, you never played defense except in the playoffs. 494 00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.239 Like how, I don't try, Dragon, Lannaire, I've been down the 495 00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:12.440 court with thirty two minutes, you remember. That's great. H So you 496 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:16.199 mentioned the NHL and Gary Bettman, the commissioner of the National Hockey League, 497 00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:22.679 has recently said that there should be some serious discussion about bringing a major league 498 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:30.719 hockey franchise to Cincinnati. Your thoughts, that's my thoughts, Gary Bettman, 499 00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:34.000 I don't know was he drunk when he was saying that, because Gary, 500 00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.079 Jeff, let's be real about this. I mean, I would love the 501 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.599 National Hockey League to come to Cincinnati. I'm a huge hockey fan. My 502 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:44.480 son played hockey from the time he was five up until through high school. 503 00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:46.559 I mean, I've worked for the Cyclones for twenty plus years. I'd be 504 00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.800 the first in line to buy a season ticket, or I'd probably be in 505 00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.480 line to be the PA announcer for the National Hockey League team. But that's 506 00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:57.679 not gonna happen. Number one, let me tell you this. You know 507 00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:01.400 how much it cost to Las Vegas go to Nights to join the National Hockey 508 00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:07.480 League and two thousand and seven five hundred million dollars, so half a bill 509 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:12.360 to that's that's in two thousand and seven, that's what it cost them to 510 00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.800 join the National Hockey League. The average ticket price for an NHL game is 511 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:22.760 eighty one dollars. Eighty one dollars. Okay, the hockey base in this 512 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:28.519 town, let's say the Cyclones Hockey base is at best four thousand fans, 513 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.599 four thousand, I mean, and that's only because you know, they get 514 00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:36.280 these big crowds of nine thousand here and there on Fridays and Saturdays, because 515 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.599 they have giveaways and people can go out on Friday and Saturday. But they're 516 00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:42.800 not gonna In the NHL, you don't play every night on Friday and Saturday. 517 00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:45.199 You also play Mondays, you also play Tuesdays, you'll play Sundays. 518 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.519 And then the fan base is not here, it's not You can go up 519 00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:52.719 the Fountain Square right now, right now, Gary Jeff, with a fist 520 00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.639 full one hundred dollars and stop, I don't know how many people and ask 521 00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.920 them, can you name me the Cyclones head coach or can you name me 522 00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.840 two players? They couldn't do it, They could not do it. So 523 00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.960 and for this, and then and then you've got the arena issue. The 524 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.760 arena. Somebody has to build an arena. Not with my tax dollars. 525 00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:14.199 It ain't happening. And John Hugh Pig is with me. We're not going 526 00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:16.760 to fund a new arena. It's not gonna happen. You know, we 527 00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:22.599 got we got royally shafted. Paul Brown Stadium now pay Corpse Stadium and Great 528 00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.880 American Ballpark. The public got screwed and it's not gonna happen. Some other 529 00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:30.639 independent guy would have been come in here and build the arena and where hell, 530 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:32.719 I have no idea where the arena would would would go? I have 531 00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:36.679 no idea, but we got to have an arena. Number one, what 532 00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:39.559 were you what were your feelings when professional soccer came here and we had to 533 00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:45.800 build TQL Stadium to get that, to get that done. Well, the 534 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:47.679 number one, they had, you know, solid ownership right from the get 535 00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.679 go. Okay, they they showed that they had the solid ownership, solid 536 00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:54.599 ownership. And then also, how many kids around this town play soccer? 537 00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:59.639 Everybody plays soccer. You know how many hockey teams are in this town that 538 00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.719 play in the high school. There's only three now, it's down to three. 539 00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:07.639 Elder bowler, saytex, that's it now. Indian Hill. I was 540 00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:12.519 at their meeting last night, Indian Hills exploring about doing a varsity hockey team. 541 00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.000 But that's only four. That's only four now. There are some you 542 00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:19.280 know, uh the ca Ha. It used to be Kaha. There were 543 00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:22.800 kids still playing hockey, but not to the extent of soccer. I mean, 544 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.159 soccer is everywhere. So you had that basel, you know, to 545 00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:28.679 draw from, and they worked that, man, they really did. They 546 00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:30.559 worked all those teams all around the city to get people to you know, 547 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:35.719 the interesting them buying tickets. So they had a massive mass of plan the 548 00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:39.400 NHL. You'd have to really this is a pipe dream. I mean I 549 00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:43.519 love the people on Facebook going, oh yeah, I can't wait to go. 550 00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:45.920 Oh yeah, well okay, you're gonna pay eighty one dollars a ticket. 551 00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:49.760 Yeah right, that don't happen. That don't happen in this town, 552 00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.800 wild man. Mind. Now, there would have been an expansion team too, 553 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:54.480 Gary, you who've been expansion team. We'd be in the We'd be 554 00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:59.280 in the basement like the Columbus Bluejackets have been for except for one year. 555 00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.079 We'd be in THEA. In this town, we're not supporting an expansion team. 556 00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:07.039 We'd be with in the basement all the time. Well, I mean 557 00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:12.000 there's still a Bengals franchise. How long were they in the basement. That's 558 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.400 that's old news. That's old news. Let's focus on the current. Now 559 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:19.519 they're doing pretty well. Okay, Well, let me focus on something else 560 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:25.760 in regards to NHL hockey professional hockey coming to a town you'd never expect. 561 00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.719 My old hometown was Nashville, Tennessee. Now, when I moved from Nashville 562 00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:37.679 up here in nineteen ninety three ninety four, the Titans weren't even playing in 563 00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:43.119 Nashville, and I just I didn't foresee that ever happening in that town. 564 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:50.360 So then the NFL came, and we have both NFL and MLB here in 565 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.119 Cincinnati, which Nashville does not. Still have a Major League baseball team. 566 00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:57.320 I think that Major League Soccer and Mage League Soccer, I think I think 567 00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:00.800 that will be the next franchise that hits Nashville, by the way, as 568 00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:08.159 a major Okay, but Nashville is not bigger than Cincinnati in fact, market 569 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:13.199 size, if you look at the metro, Cincinnati is larger than Nashville. 570 00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.880 And I never imagine Nashville would have a professional hockey. You're in the mid 571 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:22.840 South. It's not exactly a hotbed for ice hockey. And yet if the 572 00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:28.199 Predators have flourished there, so why would it work in a town like Nashville 573 00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.880 and not in a town like Cincinnati. Well, there's only so many sports 574 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:36.039 dollars going around to Gary and I don't remember what exactly Nashville did you know 575 00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:39.239 to get season tickets, but I do know the Winnipeg Jets before they rejoined 576 00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:45.239 the NHL, they had to guarantee at least ten to twelve thousand season ticket 577 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:47.599 holders. Good luck with that in this town at the price that that's going 578 00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:52.800 to cost. Well also to do that. Also, while man, I 579 00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:57.679 will say this, as far as you know, ancient history in Cincinnati regarding 580 00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:05.360 sports teams is that the the last what fifty years have been littered with the 581 00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:10.400 remnants of minor league professional hockey teams that went by the wayside and did not 582 00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:14.800 last. We had the we had the Stingers. What were the other failed 583 00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:19.000 experiments and professionals? The Stingers, the Swords. The Swords were successful. 584 00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.599 It's just that when the w h A came into business with the Stingers, 585 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:24.559 the Swords left. But then you had this this the uh. You had 586 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.039 the Uh. Well, let's go, I'll run them all down for you. 587 00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:30.199 Okay. You had the Mohawks, the Cincinnati Mohawks, who were really 588 00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:35.239 successful, but that was eons ago. They they were they were like a 589 00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:38.360 second Montreal Canadian team and then you had then you had the the Sting, 590 00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:42.960 you had the Swords, and you had the Stingers. Okay, then you 591 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:46.079 had the Tigers who were here one year and then and then you had the 592 00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:50.360 Cyclones. Then you had the Mighty Ducks. Then you had the Cyclones. 593 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.280 Right and this Cyclones, I mean for a minor league. You know, 594 00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:58.639 you said they draw about four thousand. That's not bad for minor league hockey 595 00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:05.000 anywhere, Dennis, not at all. The Cyclones have been somewhat successful in 596 00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:09.039 drawing fans with their promotions and their cheap ticket prices and putting on a product 597 00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:14.400 that you know is competitive every year. So you just think there's no way 598 00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:20.039 possible an NHL team could ever wind up in Cincinnati and actually be successful. 599 00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.039 That's what you said. I would like to see the Cyclones do this to 600 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:27.000 see if there was really an interest is join the American Hockey League. But 601 00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.559 they go up another notch and that's really like, you know, uh, 602 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.719 trip away, right, you know, ready to go to play in the 603 00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:37.280 NHL. But the ticket prices would go up if they joined the American Hockey 604 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:42.599 League. And right now ticket prices those Cyclones are twenty one dollars twenty one 605 00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.880 dollars to go to a hockey game. That's not bad. No, that's 606 00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.119 not bad. But I guarantee if they went up to join the American Hockey 607 00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.000 League, the ticket prices would go way up and the attendance would not be 608 00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:57.599 No. Four thousand per game if they're lucky to get that. All right, 609 00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.559 I just don't see it happening. It's a pi it's just a ludicrous 610 00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:04.119 pipe dream. And now here's the other thing. All right, do you 611 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.400 think the Columbus Blue Jackets are going to sign off on that in there, 612 00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.239 in this geographical area that they would sign off on? Okay, go ahead, 613 00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:14.519 go ahead and have a team. I mean Cleveland, if any team, 614 00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:19.760 anybody who could could support an NHL team Cleveland over Cincinnati because they got 615 00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.079 a lot more people up there. There's no way the Blue Jackets would sign 616 00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:27.840 off on the UH on the on the Cincinnati. So you're saying, you're 617 00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:31.440 saying right now, Gary Bettman is smoking Yukon gold or something. I think 618 00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:36.000 Gary Bettman was on something when he said that. I mean, I heard 619 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:39.840 these talk years ago when the Cyclones were so successful out of the Gardens and 620 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.800 another hockey team was going to come into town and they had to rig ready 621 00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:46.039 to go, and a new league was gonna go. It was a nothing 622 00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:49.840 but a bunch of smoking mears and just people's to getting, you know, 623 00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:52.480 just stupid publicity that went nowhere, all right, and in this in this 624 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.639 case, in this case, I would love to see it, but they 625 00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:59.320 ain't gonna happen, or it ain't gonna happen. Real, real quick, 626 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.519 wild man, real quick, thirty seconds, give me your answer. What 627 00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:06.039 do you think about the red signing? Josh Harrison? I loved it. 628 00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:07.840 I love it, man. I mean, he's a UC guy's a hometown 629 00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:12.079 guy, is a veteran guy, can play play all kinds of positions. 630 00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:14.960 I love the signing. I hope he makes the team and I quickly. 631 00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:16.960 We ought to talk about the forty nine Ers and Chiefs. I'm going with 632 00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:20.800 the forty nine ers. I'm sick of seeing the Chiefs. I want the 633 00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:22.400 forty nine ers to win. I don't really like the forty nine ers, 634 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.440 but I want the forty nine ers to win. I'm predict picking the forty 635 00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:30.239 nine ers to win. How dare you? All right? Wild man? 636 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.760 Thank you? That would be your actory. Yet we'll talk. We'll talk 637 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:37.239 in the aftermath and see how proud you are of your forty nine ers. 638 00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.039 Okay, we will talk, we will rewall, we will rehash the super 639 00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:44.880 Bowl in depth. All right, thanks wild Man Walker on the Nightcap, 640 00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:50.440 and you know, much more ahead, including the fur Ball. Next, 641 00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:54.559 Body Armors zero sugar is made with real sweeteners and real flavor with zero sugar 642 00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:59.360 and zero grams of cards. Body Armors zero sugar has be out of sorts 643 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:06.119 and other maybe unrelated topics with the fur Ball, Andy Furman one of our 644 00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:10.519 favorite guests on the night Cap because well, he makes himself available. He's 645 00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:16.159 always available, always available to me. And that's that means I don't add 646 00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:19.760 much, but I'm just happy to be there. So it saves you a 647 00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:23.000 little bit. Well, it always, it always makes my life easier when 648 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:30.719 I've got an interesting guest who knows things like you on my on my digital 649 00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:35.840 rollodex. Andy, you make my life easier. It's it's the day way 650 00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:37.920 out of that lark. That's okay, that's good. Well, you know, 651 00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:42.079 let me let me let me ask you this before you get started on 652 00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:47.119 your little role here. Yeah, didn't you always find that the women who 653 00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:52.239 were most attractive in your life were attractive because they were interested in you. 654 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:58.119 I've always found that well, you know, it's kind of a loaded question. 655 00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:01.039 Was to know that many women that were interested in me, you know, 656 00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:05.119 I think they kind of thought I was an oddball. Like in high 657 00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:07.800 school, I was like the nerd. Really, I mean, I just 658 00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.519 you know, I just I wasn't like the rest of the guys. Even 659 00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:15.239 even now. You know, I bury myself in my work because my work 660 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:21.079 is my hobby. You know, people who have other jobs can't say that 661 00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:23.119 because you can't you know, you can't take it home with you, but 662 00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:29.280 I do. I live with it. I was using the analogy Andy Furman, 663 00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.840 because you always seem to want to talk to me. That makes me 664 00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:36.599 want to talk to you more. So it's kind of the same thing. 665 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:38.639 Yeah, you know what I have to say this. You know, I 666 00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:42.920 have some traits that are good, so I'm obviously not that good be cleaned 667 00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:46.000 up. But I consider myself a people person. I always made myself available 668 00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:49.280 to people, and that's my job. I was always been a PR man. 669 00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:52.440 I consider myself a PR guy. Now I'm a PR guy at the 670 00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:55.159 point arc in coming to you know, when you're a PR guy you're a 671 00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:59.840 people person. You service people, you promote the place you work for, 672 00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:01.440 and that's what I do. I've done that all my life. I've done 673 00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:05.360 it. When I came to town as Antonia Race Course, I did it, 674 00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.320 you know, for various sports teams I worked for in college teams, 675 00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:10.199 so you know, people personal. I mean, there are certain guys that 676 00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:14.079 media guys would call you in the middle of the night for a story. 677 00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:16.239 I was always available, you know. I was always made myself available and 678 00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:20.840 kind of gone the extra mile if a guy wanted to talk to an athlete. 679 00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:22.599 And you can ask Ken Brew this. I mean, I was a 680 00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:27.320 sports information guy at or Roberts University in Tolsa, Oklahoma. Well, my 681 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:31.119 buddy kim Brew was working at KOTV, the CBS affiliate channel six and Tulsa 682 00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:35.480 and Auld Robinson was put on probation and he wanted to talk to some players 683 00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:37.599 and whatever I got on the players, I mean, I did it. 684 00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:40.320 That's that's my job. You know. There was certain administrative people in the 685 00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:44.639 university at the time weren't happy, you know, they rather keep tight lip. 686 00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:46.199 And my feeling was, you can't hide, you can't stick your ahead. 687 00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:51.360 I can't talk. I can't call kN Brew because he wouldn't take my 688 00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:55.119 call, So maybe you can help me with that people person. And further 689 00:54:55.840 --> 00:55:02.280 and further, Yes, cannibals are people because they know how good people really 690 00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:10.079 are. Andy, I've worked with some cannibals too, So what's what's on 691 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:14.519 their front Bernard for fur Ball today? Well, you know, I have 692 00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:17.480 the opportunity to kind of stay on your stage and kind of spew some things 693 00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:21.800 that kind of bugged me. And I'm not to say that I'm a negative 694 00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:23.440 guy, but these things really are out of proportion. And I think you 695 00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:27.639 and I talked about the other day when we were chatting about the Detroit Lions. 696 00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:30.559 I was rooting for them so hard and I wanted to see them win. 697 00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:32.679 And you know, all of a sudden, Dan Campbell basically is going 698 00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:37.519 for going for on third down and they didn't make it several times because have 699 00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.639 gone field goal and really buried his opposition when they played two weeks ago. 700 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.239 But I tell you this, it's the same media people, the same gas 701 00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:47.760 bags that say that he screwed up and lost and did what he had to 702 00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:52.159 do. But if he didn't do that, that's his that's his mantra. 703 00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:55.320 He's a riverboat gambler. He did that all season long. That's what got 704 00:55:55.360 --> 00:56:00.480 the Detroit Lions basically to the championship game. So for me to take that 705 00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:05.159 stance and dump on Dan Campbell, I will not do that. I love 706 00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:07.920 the guy, I love his passion. I like what he told the team 707 00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:09.719 after they lost. Guys, I'm proud of you, but you know why 708 00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:13.440 this could be a long haul. We may not get this far next year. 709 00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:15.559 And that's true. I wish Zach Taylor would have told out the Bengals 710 00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:21.199 because people were purchasing Super Bowl tickets in August and the Bengals that make the 711 00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:23.920 playoffs. So you know, I did some statistical work and I saw that 712 00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:29.079 eighty percent of the third downs that he converted were good eighty percent. He 713 00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.280 converted eighty percent of third downs this year, led the league and doing so, 714 00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:35.039 so there wasn't a surprise that he went for on third downs. Did 715 00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.360 he fail? Yeah, if he would have made it, they would have 716 00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:39.760 said the same media people said he's a genius. So that's my spewing. 717 00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:45.920 No, you go with the date that brought you to the dance, Sandy, 718 00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:51.920 you don't just switch partners in mid stream. You're you're finally there at 719 00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:57.079 the prom, and you know you brought a date with you that you wanted 720 00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:00.000 to bring along, and you don't switch. You don't didn't walk out on 721 00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:05.679 that date in the middle of the prom just because you know she's not Yeah, 722 00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:07.679 right, exactly. You've got to You've got to do what made you 723 00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:10.920 successful in the first place. And for Dan Campbell, that was being a 724 00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:15.280 riverboat gambler. Am I hearing that you're agreeing with me? I am, 725 00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:21.679 That's great? Oh good, Okay, conversation is not over yet, Andy, 726 00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.119 there's still like eleven minutes. Well, obviously, I want to talk 727 00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:30.800 about the topic called second chances, secondd chances, people who get second chances 728 00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:32.559 in life. And I look at the Super Bowl and I made a mistake, 729 00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:36.519 and this is Snoop Dogg performing in the Super Bowl this year? Am 730 00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:38.000 I wrong? I think he is? Yeah, I believe he's there, 731 00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:43.119 and he's there in some capacity. I'm not sure. I think. I 732 00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:46.000 think. I think Snoop Dogg will actually be Usher's fluffer, if you know 733 00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:51.159 what that is, whatever it is. Okay, I'm not attacking Snoop Dogg. 734 00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:52.960 I'm not down on Snoop Dogg. Do I listen to his music? 735 00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:57.400 And I really I like this Corona Beer commod commercial. I think they're cute. 736 00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:00.320 But I will tell you this much. If I had a teenage order, 737 00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:02.239 I would not permit her to listen to the lyrics of his music. 738 00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:06.440 That's all I'm saying. I think it's wrong. And to hask him on 739 00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:08.519 the stage at the super Bowl. And he's had some problems, he had 740 00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:12.440 some problems with the law. He's got a second chance, the third chance, 741 00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.840 And I don't understand why most people in this great country of ours do 742 00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:20.360 get a second chance and a third time one of them I always thrown out 743 00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:22.239 at WLW Radio. I'm not going to go down that road. I don't 744 00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:24.719 think it was fair. I don't think it was just, but that was 745 00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:28.840 the deal. But I got a second chance. Well, you're still well, 746 00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:32.639 you're still part of the iHeart Cincinnati family because you're on Fox Sports thirteen 747 00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:37.679 sixty and you're a regular appearer on this program which is on Guess what seven 748 00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:42.360 hundred WLW. Do you talk about second chances? Andy, you were rife 749 00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:45.480 with second chances. Well, there's no doubt and the irony of it is 750 00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:50.039 I worked at seven hundred and there's iHeart now with Fox Sports Radio, and 751 00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:52.840 I've been there for like a dozen years, and their iHeart. So it's 752 00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:54.440 the same companies, all right. So maybe they knew in their heart of 753 00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.079 hearts what they do is wrong. But you know what, someone blessed me, 754 00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:00.079 and I'm happy it happened because now I'm going an national stage. However, 755 00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:04.760 one guy who has never gotten that second chances my good friend in us, 756 00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:07.760 Tom Brendan's, and I don't understand it. I really do not understand 757 00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:13.639 how this kid cannot get a freaking second chance. He's talented, he's good. 758 00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:16.119 I don't know if he ticked off people and what he did was wrong. 759 00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:21.480 Okay, what he did was totally wrong, and the point is that 760 00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:24.039 he did it, and there was an open mic. Is he that kind 761 00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:27.559 of a person? No? Was he joking around? Probably yes, But 762 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:30.400 I'm going to tell you this much. He was quoting, he was andy. 763 00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:35.039 He was quoting Blazing Saddles, a line from Blazing friggin Saddles. That's 764 00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:37.199 all he was doing. He didn't think he was on the air, and 765 00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:40.039 I'm telling you what, and the producers should have done something. But you 766 00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:43.480 know, people in this country are quick to say, hey, I got 767 00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:45.840 you, You're gone. But here's my question to you, and I want 768 00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:50.760 to hear your response. Number one, Okay, what he did was done. 769 00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:54.559 Okay, after he did that, he went ahead and went to every 770 00:59:55.079 --> 01:00:00.280 I guess gay community to to say, look, I didn't mean is I'm 771 01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:06.599 with you. I'm not so certain that general public thought or do thinks now 772 01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:09.800 that's sincere. I think they think he did that because that may be away 773 01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:13.920 from the cover and come back. My take is this, I'm going to 774 01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.199 run this fight. If this has not been anywhere, no one knows this. 775 01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:22.440 My take is this, he needs to have a program called hold your 776 01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:27.400 Tongue. What is hold your Tongue? We get T shirts like the Rolling 777 01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:32.000 Stones right with the tongue hold your Tongue. Tom Brenneman goes to Cincinnati Public 778 01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:36.719 schools to the district chairman, the cham assistant Public Schools. They call a 779 01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:40.960 news conference and Tom Brennanman goes from the school to school with T shirts telling 780 01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:45.159 these kids, I don't want violence. If you're think you ort to say 781 01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:47.599 something, think before you say it, hold your tongue. I don't want 782 01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:52.800 to see these fights on Government Square anymore. It's stupid. It doesn't pay, 783 01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:57.079 it's stupid argumentation. You could agree to disagree without this the couse, 784 01:00:57.159 --> 01:01:00.039 without names, without words, and certainly without guns. That to me is 785 01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:04.599 more sincere than what he did with the gay community, because those people in 786 01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:07.199 the gay community probably don't believe him anyway. Your take, well, my 787 01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:10.679 take is he demean the fine people of Kansas City. And I do not 788 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:15.480 believe that the fine people of Kansas City are made up are made up of 789 01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:20.840 a bunch of weirdos with alternative lifestyles. Andy, That's my take, And 790 01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:25.239 I think I think he needs I think I think he needed to apologize to 791 01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:30.119 the people of Kansas City, not gay groups. I think the producer that 792 01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:35.480 had the mike open needs to apologize to Tom Brenneman. I think I think 793 01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:39.960 he needed to apologize to mel Brooks for quoting a line from his movie. 794 01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:44.960 Yeah, that's that's who we should have apologized for. No, Tom Brenneman 795 01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:50.280 definitely definitely deserves a second chance. There's so many people in this country who 796 01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:59.159 have gotten second chances at the highest levels and to continue because of one very 797 01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:04.039 very small, but very vocal special interest group. That you offended. Because 798 01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:07.000 of that, you're continually wiped off the map time and time again. It 799 01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:13.559 is patently unfair. It is not the American way, and it should be 800 01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:20.559 corrected tomorrow. Somebody should hire Tom Brenneman tomorrow and without him going to schools 801 01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:25.960 saying hold your tongue, without going to alternative lifestyle groups and apologizing, just 802 01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:32.920 based on his talent on the meritocracy, he should be hired tomorrow somewhere. 803 01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.960 And I would I would be I would be one of the first people to 804 01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.920 tune in the minute he was on TV or on the radio when he got 805 01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:44.679 the acts, when he got the acts for both the Red and Fox Sports 806 01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.559 doing football. I wrote a letter to the president of Ohio University. Why 807 01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:51.440 he went to Ohio You And I said, look, you know he's one 808 01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:53.119 of your proud graduates. Why don't you put him on your radio team, 809 01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:59.719 you know, give him a spot to do as woke as woke as woke 810 01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:02.840 as college campuses are in this country. Are you kidding me? That would 811 01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:07.679 be setting Tom Breman. That would be setting Tom Brenneman up to be burned 812 01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:12.239 in effigy. Uh, maybe not even an effigy to be burned alive at 813 01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:15.360 the stake at a place like Athens, Ohio, on that college campus that 814 01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:23.119 that uh, that poisonous tree of academic slime. And not not Ohio itself, 815 01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:30.719 but college campuses all over this country are infected with this this identity politics 816 01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:37.159 wokism that is ruining those institutions and ruining the education of America's next generation. 817 01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:43.280 So yes, I would like to see Tom Brenneman back on the air tomorrow, 818 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:45.679 and I would fully support that, and like I said, I'd be 819 01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:51.119 one of his biggest supporters in that. So, well, what do you 820 01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:53.920 think about that? I'm trying to I love it. I love that I'm 821 01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:58.000 trying to figure something out. And maybe now i'm a little older. I'm 822 01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:00.119 not saying I'm wise, I'm a little old of games. I'm figuring it 823 01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:04.480 out. Tom Brenneman doesn't bring any revenue to anybody. Really, people are 824 01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:08.400 gonna watch football and basketball and baseball games. You know, if you did 825 01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:11.000 the play back play, if I did it, or if a monkey did 826 01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:14.039 it. Really, it's just the game itself, not the announcer. So 827 01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:16.400 why guys like Tony Romo get ten million dollars is beyond me. I don't 828 01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:23.760 get it, but a basketball coach in college somehow brings revenue, exposure, 829 01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:29.039 TV, maybe increases enrollment. That's why guys get second and third chances. 830 01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:31.519 All you gotta do is look around Cincinnati. The coach of Xavier basketball, 831 01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:34.639 coach Davi. He got thrown out of Arizona. He's back a Xavier, 832 01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:38.679 all right. I mean he's a coach. What he did, can I 833 01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:41.960 compare what he did? Was it any worse than what Tom Brenneman did. 834 01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:45.199 I don't know what did Sean Miller do. He was accused of, but 835 01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:49.119 he was never convicted of anything, cose it was his pro because it was 836 01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:53.480 his program. And you're the coach and the coach CEO of the program, 837 01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:57.760 so anything that happens underneath you, you're responsible for. Period of the story. 838 01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:01.840 Really, you know, if someone cheating or stealing money at Fifth Third 839 01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:04.920 Bank, there's a good chance the CEO is Fifth Third Banks to be gone. 840 01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:08.960 There's a good chance, like you should have known that, you should 841 01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:12.639 have spotted that petina at Louisville. He may not have done anything, but 842 01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:17.559 his under the assistance they did it. DA had Hooker's allegedly on campus. 843 01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:20.760 Okay, he's gone. But you know what, he got another chance, 844 01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:25.000 He got a second chance, got a third chance. But to Wyona, 845 01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:29.079 now is the Saint John's so But again I see the amount of money, 846 01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:32.199 exposure and what he may bring to the table as what Tom Brendanman does. 847 01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:35.360 I guess you know, media people executive say, look, we don't get 848 01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:39.000 Tom Brendanman, We'll get Joe Blow. No big deal, right, It 849 01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:43.079 is not the attitude I would think. Yeah, I mean probably. I 850 01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:46.320 can't get inside their heads and figure out why they wouldn't give a very talented 851 01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:50.960 broadcaster or another shot. I mean, don Imus called the girls from Rutgers, 852 01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:57.039 the women's basketball team, the nappy headed hose and got kicked off. 853 01:05:57.159 --> 01:06:00.559 He does morning show but no, but then he was rehired a couple of 854 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:04.760 years later at Fox Business and he was back on the air. Don Imus 855 01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:11.320 got a second chance. Tom Breham Carton, Craig Carlton on WFAN was involved 856 01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:14.239 in a gambling scheme, you know, really really bad. He got thrown 857 01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:16.760 off WFAN. Now he's making ten times the amount of No. What this 858 01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:20.199 topic to me will never go away. I have no answer for it, 859 01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:25.679 but it eats me alive because I know Tom Brennan needs a friend. These 860 01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:28.880 other people I don't know. I don't know as well as Tommy, you 861 01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:30.840 know. So that's what eats me up alive. Getting a second tis shore. 862 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.599 It's okay, but if it's good for one, it's good for all. 863 01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:38.360 Right, it should be a hand pick operation. I don't get it. 864 01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:42.280 I just don't understand it. Well, you know what, I played 865 01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:47.719 the Stroke by Billy Squire about ten thousand times in nineteen eighty three, and 866 01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:51.840 I still was allowed to get hired somewhere else doing a radio jobs. You're 867 01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:57.199 right, everybody deserves a second chance. Andy, there's no question. Is 868 01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:00.760 there anything else on your docket tonight? But I like to find out from 869 01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:05.480 the people who basically made There's gotta be one guy who made the decision, 870 01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:11.960 both at at at LW the Reds and also at Fox. No one person 871 01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:14.719 he said get rid of him. I want to talk to that guy. 872 01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:17.039 Actually, Can you tell me why? Well, tell me why. That's 873 01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:20.320 why. That's I want to know who did it why. I think he's 874 01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:25.239 the coward. That person's the coward. I think it was probably I think 875 01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:30.079 it was probably the marketing director who was in charge of Dylan Mlvaney at bud 876 01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.559 Light and she's she's gone again now too, and she should be right. 877 01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:39.519 And I don't you know, just thinks you crazy. It really does. 878 01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:43.320 I don't want to get myself riled up too much about this, but it's 879 01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:45.280 something that just don't won't go away. And you know, I feel for 880 01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:51.360 Tom if he apologizes, If he apologizes, if he apologizes to the citizens 881 01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:56.239 of Kansas City and mel Brooks, I think he's in Andy. I gotta 882 01:07:56.280 --> 01:07:59.639 go. And remember, you can't spell from me. You can't. You 883 01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:02.679 can't well, I mean time. You won't have to go. We're we're 884 01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:06.239 out of time. We're out of time, and my bladder is calling. 885 01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:11.559 You can't spell for it without f you. Good night, God bless you. 886 01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:15.280 Is there a special time you like to listen to Scoon's loan? I 887 01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.479 love listening to his show while I'm getting a pedicure. Tell me more. 888 01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:20.560 I like to listen to his show while I'm at my twelve step meeting. 889 01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:25.279 Really, I love listening to his show at the zoo. The monkeys like 890 01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:28.079 it too. Oh time out, Now you've been serious. I listen to 891 01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.640 his podcast when my wife is watching one of those stupid romance movies. I 892 01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:34.199 guess anytime is the right time first loaning. That's what we've been saying. 893 01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:40.319 Tomorrow morning to nine on seven hundred WLW and check out his podcast on the 894 01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:45.239 free iHeartRadio app. Reds Fans, now is the time to get your twenty 895 01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:48.359 twenty four season tickets so you don't miss a moment. With a season ticket 896 01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:54.520 membership, you'll get the biggest savings and receive exclusive benefits all season long. 897 01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:59.800 Plans started just thirteen games and include guaranteed access to twenty twenty four opening, 898 01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:04.119 post season and so much more. To secure your seats and catch all the 899 01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:10.960 Reds action at Great American Ballpark this season, call five eight one Reds Today, 900 01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:15.359 Ready for anything event stop by Joseph Toyota on Cole Rain aprs as low 901 01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:23.039 as Fortnightcap on seven hundred w l W, Gary Jeff Walker And for this 902 01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:26.239 hour or for this half hour, anyway, for the next few minutes, 903 01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:28.960 we'll see how long it stays on the line, if you can actually stand 904 01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:34.439 me orund But we have and it's it's rare that we have a poet on 905 01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:38.920 the air, But yes, he is that, and he is much more. 906 01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:45.479 He is an American heat has written essays, collections of essays, including 907 01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:53.960 the DNA of Democracy and Shadows of the Acropolis ominous foreshadowings there and he is 908 01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:58.279 our guest for the next few minutes. Richard c Lyons is on the line. 909 01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:00.720 Richard, how are you doing tonight? Oh? Very good, Gary, 910 01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:05.640 How are you doing fine? Doing fine? So if we can take 911 01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:14.279 poetic license with democracy and patriotism, let's go ahead and do that. Sure. 912 01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:23.000 First off, describe what you have what you have written down in DNA 913 01:10:23.079 --> 01:10:28.039 of demilostrap Democracy, DNA of Democracy and Shadows of the Acropolis, each one 914 01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:30.840 of them singularly. So let's go with the DNA of democracy. What's that 915 01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:36.319 all about, Richard? It is it is the It is a chronicle of 916 01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:43.920 the infrequency of what we call democracies or government by the people. So it 917 01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:47.920 is the democracy of Athens that was direct democracy, or it's the Republic of 918 01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:54.319 Rome, which was by representation most like our federal government. And there is 919 01:10:54.439 --> 01:11:00.439 the common law institutions of the Magnet Carta as it grew in England to provide 920 01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:06.359 an independent judiciary and justice system. So I visit those things in history and 921 01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:12.399 I and I go straight to the Revolution in America, why it was fought 922 01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:17.880 against the tyranny of George the Third, and how our constitution was put together 923 01:11:18.680 --> 01:11:24.239 exactly. How so you have provisions for local rule and the ninth and tenth 924 01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:30.000 Amendments which provide state. Oh oh, Richard, Richard, Richard. For 925 01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:33.840 some reason, your your signal just went berserk on me. Oh, I'm 926 01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:39.039 sorry. That's why the landline is better about that. Well, that's okay, 927 01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:44.439 go ahead, continue. So you're talking about a country was created, 928 01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:47.520 Okay, Yeah, So that's the DNA of democracy, all the things necessary 929 01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:54.119 to have a government by the people. Shadows of the acropolis. Conversely, 930 01:11:54.920 --> 01:12:00.439 is how and why the administrative state in America was created and grew for the 931 01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:05.000 last hundred years, and why that is a socialist rather than a democratic institution 932 01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:11.920 and a threat to the foundation of our country today. Well, and as 933 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:16.159 you mentioned, the roots of what we have today started in ancient Greece and 934 01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:19.119 in Rome to a certain extent, and then with the signing of the Magna 935 01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:25.680 Carta, which kind of correct gave you a I don't know, kind of 936 01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:30.399 a guide path to how government should relate to people and vice versa. And 937 01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:36.760 exactly so, then you talk about our American Revolution where we broke away from 938 01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:42.199 the tyranny of King George the Third. You know what it seems like, 939 01:12:42.359 --> 01:12:45.479 And there are plenty of other examples, Richard, but it seems like we're 940 01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:53.079 almost at this tipping point with Joe Biden in office, as with King George 941 01:12:53.119 --> 01:13:00.199 the Third on the throne, because both of them had seeming medical challenges which 942 01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:08.239 added to their inability to govern or lead correctly. And I'm talking about the 943 01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:16.399 cognition of Joe Biden and the obvious, the obvious fallbacks to Joe's ability to 944 01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:20.800 even form sentences. And King George the Third it's I don't know if it's 945 01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:27.119 a fact, but it's been positive that he was mentally ill with syphilis for 946 01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:31.880 a great deal of the American Revolution. I mean, that's going to cloud 947 01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:36.800 your judgment and your ability to govern correctly, is it not? Well? 948 01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:41.279 What two things are? One thing is true about both of them, and 949 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:45.279 that is that they exercise a tyrannical sort of rule. For Joe Biden, 950 01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:49.840 and I think he's a useful puppet, yeah, Gary, I think someone 951 01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:56.079 else is using his decrepit old frame in order to blame him for policies that 952 01:13:56.159 --> 01:14:00.000 nobody in America likes, right, So when they appoint some at the Democratic 953 01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:04.680 Convention to run against Trump, they'll have a clean slate. And what people 954 01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:08.520 haven't liked about Joe Biden, they'll say, oh, they're going to fix 955 01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:12.279 that, don't you worry, and they'll buy and they'll blame Biden for it. 956 01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:16.119 He's a useful fool. But like George the Third, he is exercising 957 01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:21.720 a sort of a tyranny in that if you look at the disregard that Biden 958 01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:26.119 has shown in the state of Texas to be able to defend itself, it's 959 01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:30.199 rather like the disregard that George the Third had for the colonies. Yeah right. 960 01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:34.760 If you look at the agencies under the federal agencies of the administrative state 961 01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:42.199 trying to take control of people's land in Wyoming, that's exactly corollary to Britain's 962 01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:47.199 taking all the lands west of the Appalachia just prior to the revolution, which 963 01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:53.920 we made people leave their homes and farms in the Ohio Valley. These are 964 01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:57.800 the same sorts of things, their tyranny in different eras. And that's why 965 01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:03.560 in the DNA of democracy, it's so the difference between people ruling themselves and 966 01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:09.560 under one law, and a tyrant ruling on his own and telling people what 967 01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:13.960 they can and cannot do. So Biden is trying to call Texas they can't 968 01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:18.920 defend their own border and secure their own people. It's ridiculous. Well, 969 01:15:19.159 --> 01:15:25.000 when the Constitution clearly says that they do have that right and that tool in 970 01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:31.119 their box. Yeah, and it's very very plainly stated by Texas Governor Greg 971 01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:38.439 Abbott and the people who are administering those policies in Texas to literally save their 972 01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:44.760 state, their republic. You know, I had to multiple discussions yesterday with 973 01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:49.560 people who live in the great state of Texas and what they have seen and 974 01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:54.720 what it means. And now, of course it's every state in the Union 975 01:15:54.960 --> 01:16:00.760 because the government has paid to take these criminals to all corners of the state. 976 01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:08.800 And you know, if you if you're under the false impression that no 977 01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:15.239 human being is illegal, well then that means that no cash bail and letting 978 01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:19.680 people out of court to who have you know, committed heinous acts like the 979 01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:27.000 woman who stabbed her boyfriend to death and the judge excused it because she was 980 01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:32.439 suffering a psychotic break. Because you involuntary and voluntarily inhaled marijuana. That's a 981 01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:39.199 pretty famous case. No, I'm serious. This happened in California. So 982 01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:43.319 yes, there are some people. There are some people who are in fact 983 01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:47.399 illegal by their actions. And when your first action in this country is to 984 01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:51.720 break the law because you think you can get by with it, that makes 985 01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:57.600 you any illegal immigrant. Right there, step one, Yes, exactly, 986 01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:00.760 there is right and wrong and on that based law, yes, right, 987 01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:04.920 And these laws go back the laws of a free people, go back, 988 01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:11.000 you know, back to Athens and back to Rome and back to the Magna 989 01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:15.880 Carta and the British judiciary. There's a difference between the law held by the 990 01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:23.159 people in a social compact and a tyrant saying I refuse to defend your border, 991 01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:26.159 and I won't let you do it either. But I think there's a 992 01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:29.600 design behind this. Gary, if you'd like to listen for just a moment, 993 01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:34.039 yes, because I've just discerned this. So in twenty twenty three, 994 01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:42.039 two and a half million illegals were encountered and then shipped throughout America, as 995 01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:45.359 you know, and in New York City they're talking about giving them credit cards 996 01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:50.840 for at the taxpayer's expense. I saw now one of the first acts of 997 01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:58.880 the Biden administration was to issue Executive Order one four zero one nine, which 998 01:17:59.119 --> 01:18:02.920 was an effort he spread this throughout all of the four hundred and thirty five 999 01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:10.119 administrative agencies of the federal government, and it was an effort to expand through 1000 01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:17.079 our single government the Democrat voter based by having every agency work with leftist non 1001 01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:25.000 profit organizations in urban areas to target voters who would vote Democrat. So, 1002 01:18:25.119 --> 01:18:29.359 if you're funneling two and a half million people the urban areas around the country, 1003 01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:33.159 and every agency in the government is saying come here and sign your name 1004 01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:42.680 on this document, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Richard, you went away 1005 01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:48.000 again. I'm sorry. But if you're if you're sending people to urban areas, 1006 01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:56.680 yes, and having federal agencies tasked, I see what. I tell 1007 01:18:56.680 --> 01:18:59.399 you what. Let's Richard, Let's take a break and I will call you 1008 01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:02.760 back on landline and we can finish this. Because this is important. This 1009 01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:11.359 is important conversation and people need people need to understand what the Biden administration has 1010 01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:15.920 done purposely through executive order, not through law, not following federal law that's 1011 01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:20.680 already on the banding law and creating law that should not be law, and 1012 01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:25.960 the executive branch has no power to do that, supposedly. Right, oh, 1013 01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:29.800 right, more with Richard c Lyons in just a moment, the DNA 1014 01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:33.319 of Democracy and Shadows of the Acropolis and how it relates to what is going 1015 01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:38.319 on right now. It's all ahead, then the new year is here. 1016 01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:41.039 And if you're like many of us, you're going to make a resolution to 1017 01:19:41.119 --> 01:19:44.239 improve your health. But if you're feeling sluggish and low energy, if your 1018 01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:47.760 sleep patterns are off, the DNA of Democracy and Shadows of the Acropolis talking 1019 01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:53.640 about the border invasion that Joe Biden has permitted and not only permitted, but 1020 01:19:53.880 --> 01:20:00.279 encouraged mainly to build up the Democrat voter base through Executive Order one four Oh 1021 01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:05.199 what's the rest Richard one four zero one nine all right, and sent this 1022 01:20:05.319 --> 01:20:11.239 out to four hundred and thirty five federal government agencies, specifically in urban areas 1023 01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:18.359 to basically it's it's a voter drive of people who are not citizens to this 1024 01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:21.920 point, by one party to the government. Yes, by one party, 1025 01:20:23.279 --> 01:20:27.760 So can tell there? Okay? So when all right, so two and 1026 01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:30.000 a half million people are let in in one year, that's just one year, 1027 01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:33.319 people are estimating it's like twelve or thirteen million. Now, then you 1028 01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:39.800 have one of the first things Biden administration did was this executive order one four 1029 01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:44.159 zero one nine to register. And I think, you know, if you're 1030 01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:46.520 giving away credit cards in New York and you say, well, you can 1031 01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:49.680 have this credit card if you just sign here, I think that's another voter 1032 01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:56.680 on their tally sheet. In addition, when you talk about states like Pennsylvania, 1033 01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:00.640 when you go in Pennsylvania to renew your license, they make you register 1034 01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:08.000 to vote. So if they are allowing illegal aliens to have a license, 1035 01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:13.319 they are automatically registered. They are automatically registered, even if they're ineligible to 1036 01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:17.159 vote. It's part of a and this is part of a coordinated scheme to 1037 01:21:17.239 --> 01:21:24.119 get to get Trump disallowed from ballots and illegal aliens at the same time to 1038 01:21:24.199 --> 01:21:31.600 vote. And it's rather heinous because you have Biden reniging on his constitutional duties 1039 01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:38.560 and abandoning his duty to defend the country and then bringing in illegals to vote. 1040 01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:41.880 Well, that's what Greg Abbott, that's what Greg Gabbott cited in Texas, 1041 01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:45.600 and that's why he took, you know, unilateral action to protect the 1042 01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:51.640 sovereignty of his state and ultimately our country, which Joe Biden clearly does not 1043 01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:57.640 care about. It looks and I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled about this. Mike 1044 01:21:57.720 --> 01:22:00.880 Johnson says that the Senate bill that was proparedst is dead on arrival in the 1045 01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:06.079 House, thank God. And it looks and it looks and it looks like 1046 01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:12.279 it's not going to pass muster in the Senate either in its current form because 1047 01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:18.600 and should not. It is exactly what the Democrats and Joe Biden want in 1048 01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:24.680 this continued voter drive. Some people call it replacement theory, whatever you want 1049 01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:30.880 to call it. I and so, so we have the branches of Congress, 1050 01:22:31.279 --> 01:22:35.279 which Joe Biden will now blame and is taking time to blame Republicans again 1051 01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:40.239 for this not going forward, because Joe says his hands are tied. I've 1052 01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:44.199 done all I can. Yes, you've done all your all you can to 1053 01:22:44.359 --> 01:22:48.279 eliminate completely the borders of this country. That's that's right you have by ignoring 1054 01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:55.359 federal laws that are already on the books, and by ignoring your responsibility as 1055 01:22:55.439 --> 01:23:00.800 commander in chief to protect our country from such invasions. That was perfectly said 1056 01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:06.760 Joe Biden, as Executive, under the Immigration and Nationality Act, can act 1057 01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:13.880 on section two one two f and thereby suspend the entry of any alien whatsoever 1058 01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:19.159 or any class of aliens. He could do that today and refuses to. 1059 01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:24.720 This is his constitutional duty. This has been This has been code in this 1060 01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:30.239 country since nineteen fifty two, since the Eisenhower Truman Eisenhower administry. Exactly right, 1061 01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:36.920 exactly right. And there's also there's further laws. There was a two 1062 01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:45.079 two thousand and six Fence Act which gave the executive the authority to take control 1063 01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:51.039 operational control of every land and sea border of the United States. And that 1064 01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:56.439 too, is another law that he's abrogating in favor of what I think is 1065 01:23:56.479 --> 01:24:00.920 an illicit design by the Democratic Party to make sure that their party assumes a 1066 01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:08.159 one party rule, owing to the fact that they just keep bringing in aliens 1067 01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:14.039 to fulfill the voter roles and to suppress the conservative vote. But you know, 1068 01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:23.319 this can only happen alongside because of the acquiescence of Republicans who do not 1069 01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:30.479 believe in the promise and the guarantees of American sovereignty. And you know the 1070 01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:36.800 Republicans, you know, many of them are obviously just feckless tools of some 1071 01:24:36.920 --> 01:24:41.880 of the same forses that are behind the Democrats. Well they you know, 1072 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:45.760 they partner with they partner with the Democratic Party, their Democratic Party. Light. 1073 01:24:46.680 --> 01:24:53.119 I put it this way, the Democrats are today dedicated to creating socialism 1074 01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:57.680 in America and destroying this country. The Republicans, on the other hand, 1075 01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:02.359 half of them are determined to destroy their party, the Republican Party or Conservatism. 1076 01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:08.720 And so you you know, you really have a task for the next 1077 01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:15.000 nominee of the Republican Party to bring that party together and define And this is 1078 01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:18.119 what my books do, define where the country is right now, because it's 1079 01:25:18.159 --> 01:25:24.840 a why in the road between socialism and a renewal of our constitutional principles. 1080 01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:28.159 You've got to do one or the other. And it's a really it's an 1081 01:25:28.319 --> 01:25:32.800 historic moment. Well you know what, and the forces behind this are even 1082 01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:42.600 darker than socialism or Marxism. They are the globalist concerns, the World Economic 1083 01:25:42.760 --> 01:25:47.520 Forum, the WHO, the IMF, all of these, all of these 1084 01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:54.680 forces are coming to bear on killing the American dream because as long as the 1085 01:25:54.760 --> 01:26:00.800 American dream is alive, then they cannot assume total control of the entire globe. 1086 01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:05.399 Yeah, there was. There was someone at the at the World Economic 1087 01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:11.920 Forum, I think his name was Ciras and he said, and this is 1088 01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:16.199 perfect language, he said, we cannot allow national divides to stop us from 1089 01:26:16.279 --> 01:26:21.479 dealing with global issues as a global body. Well, who elected them? 1090 01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:28.279 Nobody elected them? No and no. And it's based on administrative law, 1091 01:26:28.479 --> 01:26:31.720 which is what we get out of our agencies. Gary. They are not 1092 01:26:32.199 --> 01:26:38.600 They never go through the legislature, they're never judicially reviewed as being consistent with 1093 01:26:38.720 --> 01:26:44.399 the constitution. They are dictates, usually by the Democratic Party. Well, 1094 01:26:44.520 --> 01:26:48.840 you have seen what has happened with these unelected bodies, like the Colorado State 1095 01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:55.680 Supreme Court now just unilaterally decided to take Donald Trump off the ballot because they 1096 01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:59.520 but they weren't. None of them were elected by the voters of Colorado. 1097 01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:02.760 Uh. Perfect example, the Secretary of State of Maine, who is also 1098 01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:10.720 an unelected appointed official, deciding that she's going to remove Donald Trump from the 1099 01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:17.399 ballot. Another unelected bureaucrat acting like they represent the people, which they obviously 1100 01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:25.600 do. Right. If there's a there's just there's these two forms of governance, 1101 01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:31.920 Gary, are opposites. Administrative law and administrative agencies. And representative bodies 1102 01:27:32.399 --> 01:27:36.720 are opposed to each other philosophically. Richard C. Lions, I've got to 1103 01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:43.680 go times up unfortunately, but we'll do it again. Okay. Oh love 1104 01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:46.279 to thank you, Gary, thank you for your time. It's the Nightcap 1105 01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:51.000 on seven hundred WLW, on the turn for Home on this Tuesday night, 1106 01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:56.760 we're talking with our old friend Dave Patter, our it guy tech Talk. 1107 01:27:57.760 --> 01:28:00.159 He is uh, he is the guy that I look too when I think 1108 01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:03.800 that everything's fine, and then I go, oh my god. He just 1109 01:28:03.880 --> 01:28:08.479 pointed out about three or four or five things that are going to kill us 1110 01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:14.560 all and it's all and it's all Internet of Things related. So Dave, 1111 01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:18.119 how are you going to scare us tonight? That's the question? Well, 1112 01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:23.000 Gary Jeff, you'd asked. Sadly, it's a long list of options. 1113 01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:27.560 We can start wherever you like, because it seems like every day, as 1114 01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:32.479 all this digital technology becomes increasingly intertwined in our daily lives, there are all 1115 01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:38.600 these threats out there that regular every day non nerds don't seem to really get 1116 01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:42.600 unfortunately, and you know, the bad guys exploit that. And the point 1117 01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:45.960 I always try to make Gary Jeff, anyone that we'll listen is they want 1118 01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:48.119 to steal your money, and if you don't take the right steps, if 1119 01:28:48.159 --> 01:28:51.680 you make it easy, they are going to steal your money. It's just 1120 01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:56.039 literally that simple. So you know, I appreciate you giving me the opportunity 1121 01:28:56.079 --> 01:29:00.880 to try to help people avoid the just spiraling same out there. Well, 1122 01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:04.560 Dave, and just a couple of things before we get started to full throat 1123 01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:12.000 it into the scam work that you've been focusing on. So all post that 1124 01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:16.000 TikTok is now actually helping illegal migrants on how to break into the country. 1125 01:29:16.359 --> 01:29:23.399 What a wonderful thing that the Communist Chinese Party has done through their app to 1126 01:29:23.880 --> 01:29:29.119 you know, Gary, there's just nothing good to say about TikTok. TikTok 1127 01:29:30.159 --> 01:29:32.800 really should be banned. You know, we've talked about it before. And 1128 01:29:33.079 --> 01:29:36.359 it's not just that your data is going to China, which is a problem 1129 01:29:36.960 --> 01:29:41.199 because people tell me all Facebook, all these companies are doing the same thing. 1130 01:29:41.800 --> 01:29:43.840 Well, first off, if you just go back and you look at 1131 01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:46.800 TikTok's privacy label in the Apple Store and you see how aggressively is clicking your 1132 01:29:46.840 --> 01:29:50.279 information, that's problem. One problem too, is all of your data is 1133 01:29:50.319 --> 01:29:54.399 going to China. But that's not the least, that's not the most of 1134 01:29:54.439 --> 01:30:00.439 the problems. The most significant problem is that you've recently seen elect or officials 1135 01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:03.439 within our federal government come out and warn about the fact that it's basically a 1136 01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:08.159 fi op tool. You have a fi op tool from the Chinese Communist Party 1137 01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:12.800 in your pocket. It's capturing enormous amounts of data about you. It can 1138 01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:15.680 be used to persuade you. They can push down things they don't want you 1139 01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:19.720 to see that are negative to the Chinese Communist Party, and they can elevate 1140 01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:24.319 things they do want you to see that are you know, negative about the 1141 01:30:24.399 --> 01:30:28.159 United States or anything that they want to you know, push it as a 1142 01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:30.800 feature called the heating feature. It's it's been well documented. So yeah, 1143 01:30:31.319 --> 01:30:35.960 I'm not at all surprised that that's yet another angle of it because it helps 1144 01:30:36.199 --> 01:30:42.600 the Chinese Communist Party. So yeah, TikTok should be banned. You know. 1145 01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:45.000 Now all of this is alleged, but just I encourage folks, don't 1146 01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:50.479 take my word for it. Go see the recent testimony from scaysor director Jen 1147 01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:56.880 Easterly an FBI director Christopher Ray to Congress. Just in the last week or 1148 01:30:56.920 --> 01:31:00.199 so. They cover a lot of topics related to China and the CCP threat 1149 01:31:00.279 --> 01:31:03.960 to the United States, including critical infrastructure, which we've talked about numerous times. 1150 01:31:04.439 --> 01:31:10.159 It's pretty hair raising, honestly. Well, one more thing I wanted 1151 01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:13.680 to broach with you real quick talking to Dave had Her on the Nightcap on 1152 01:31:13.800 --> 01:31:21.680 seven hundred WLW. Why does anybody need a smart toilet? Apparently Kohler has 1153 01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:27.920 a brand new revolutionary smart toilet that they are advertising, I guess of building 1154 01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:33.000 up to Super Bowl ads or whatever. And I mean, what exactly what 1155 01:31:33.199 --> 01:31:42.039 advantage would a smart toilet bring the average person? You're asking the wrong guy, 1156 01:31:42.119 --> 01:31:45.279 Garret. Yeah, you know that. You know how I feel about 1157 01:31:45.319 --> 01:31:47.079 all these Internet of Things devices. You know. I'll go mind, folks, 1158 01:31:47.159 --> 01:31:53.159 make a hyphonent who's a well known cybersecurity expert, coin the law opponent's 1159 01:31:53.239 --> 01:31:56.600 law. If it's smart, it's vulnerable. So right off the bat, 1160 01:31:56.680 --> 01:31:59.800 I would say something like this is just crazy, straight out of the gate. 1161 01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:03.439 It's just one more thing you don't need that's going to create potential security 1162 01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:09.079 and privacy problems for you. But I'm assuming, as a quote smart toilet 1163 01:32:09.279 --> 01:32:12.800 unquote that part of what it's doing, is, you know, analyzing your 1164 01:32:13.359 --> 01:32:16.520 excrement and such. And I would just remind people, go take a look 1165 01:32:16.520 --> 01:32:21.159 at what recently happened with twenty three and B do you really think that it 1166 01:32:21.359 --> 01:32:27.800 makes sense for you to give your sensitive health data, especially things like information 1167 01:32:27.920 --> 01:32:31.439 about your DNA to a third party who then easily has breached and all your 1168 01:32:31.520 --> 01:32:35.239 data is out there now. I don't know what a hacker or a nation 1169 01:32:35.399 --> 01:32:38.760 state actor could do. But now, if you want to go back to 1170 01:32:38.840 --> 01:32:44.600 our friends in the Chinese Communist Party, could they use your DNA information to 1171 01:32:45.039 --> 01:32:48.079 engineer up a virus in a lab specifically designed to kill you? I don't 1172 01:32:48.079 --> 01:32:54.600 know. I'm not a biologist or a virologist, but I do know that 1173 01:32:54.760 --> 01:33:00.000 having that kind of information on tens of thousands to millions of Americans is probably 1174 01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:03.560 not beneficial to those people. So yeah, the whole idea of a smart 1175 01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:09.640 toilet to me is absolutely insane. There's no chance, absolutely no chance. 1176 01:33:09.680 --> 01:33:13.640 And I just can't stress this strongly enough to people that I would provide any 1177 01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:15.439 time. You know, I'm not going to use coligark, I'm not going 1178 01:33:15.520 --> 01:33:19.479 to use twenty three and meteris, I'm not going to use any company that 1179 01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:25.079 is a private company collecting this kind of information. Because we don't have a 1180 01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:29.000 national privacy law, there's really no consequences in these companies when they're breached. 1181 01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:30.880 I mean, yeah, they're twenty three and me thing, they got a 1182 01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:34.119 black eye. But you're the one that suffers because it's your data totout there. 1183 01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:39.039 So you know, Garrett, Jeff, we've you have me on many 1184 01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:43.119 times that we've talked about privacy so many times, and we recently discussed this 1185 01:33:43.319 --> 01:33:47.600 Plum Foundation, which is a Cincinnati based organization trying to raise awareness about privacy. 1186 01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:50.199 I mean, this is a perfect topic and the kind of thing we're 1187 01:33:50.279 --> 01:33:56.159 trying to help people understand. Don't put any more information out there about yourself 1188 01:33:56.199 --> 01:33:59.720 than you absolutely positively need to because at the moment, we're not at a 1189 01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:03.720 place where it's protected adequately, and you are the one that suffers the consequences 1190 01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:09.039 of having your data leak, whether it's identity seft, they impersonates you to 1191 01:34:09.079 --> 01:34:12.800 take over your accounts and steal your money or who knows what down the road. 1192 01:34:13.800 --> 01:34:16.800 Yeah, my advice is less information out you about you out there rather 1193 01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:20.119 the better, and not a chance I would use a smart toilet. It's 1194 01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:25.520 shit, totally insane as far as right right, Dave Hadter says, use 1195 01:34:25.560 --> 01:34:31.960 an old fashioned toilet and cover your ass. Oh exactly. So this woman 1196 01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:38.800 in Maryland lost seventeen thousand dollars in a sim card swap in a scam, 1197 01:34:39.840 --> 01:34:44.960 and she was using multi factor authentication, but it's still she still got swindled 1198 01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:47.520 out of that money. How's that one? Yeah, this is this is 1199 01:34:47.560 --> 01:34:51.640 an important story because, first off, even when you know you can read 1200 01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:56.560 this headline and easily be confused by the idea that, well, maybe I 1201 01:34:56.600 --> 01:35:01.800 shouldn't use multi factor authentication telling it, you should use multi factor authentication anywhere 1202 01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:05.000 and everywhere you can. Now, there are different ways to apply it. 1203 01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:10.239 Most people are using it to text to their phone. I'm gonna come back 1204 01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:13.079 to that in a second, and that's how she got hacked. I also 1205 01:35:13.199 --> 01:35:15.000 want to say that, you know, there are ways to get around multi 1206 01:35:15.039 --> 01:35:21.359 factor authentication. It's not bulletproof, but you're raising the bar much much higher 1207 01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:26.680 for the bad guys, and in most cases they're just going to move on 1208 01:35:26.800 --> 01:35:29.199 to a softer target. Right. They want to steal money. They want 1209 01:35:29.239 --> 01:35:31.039 to steal as much money as flippit as they can, they don't want to 1210 01:35:31.079 --> 01:35:35.399 have to work at it in most cases. So one of the ways that 1211 01:35:35.520 --> 01:35:40.760 they get around multi factor authentication though, is this text based MFA or two 1212 01:35:40.840 --> 01:35:44.720 factor authentication. Right, that's what most people are familiar with. That's how 1213 01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:46.359 this originally rolled out. To get a log into your bank, you Internet 1214 01:35:46.439 --> 01:35:49.640 use it. Every password, it sends you what's nose the one time pass 1215 01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:54.279 code, usually a six digit number that rotates every thirty seconds, and you 1216 01:35:54.359 --> 01:35:56.800 have to inter that the log in. Right. Hopefully everyone is familiar with 1217 01:35:56.880 --> 01:36:00.720 this idea. Well. One of the ways to defeat that is SIM swapping. 1218 01:36:00.960 --> 01:36:02.359 And people say, well, you know, well, how does that 1219 01:36:02.439 --> 01:36:04.560 work? How could that happen to me? I would just remind you, 1220 01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:09.239 even someone who is very technologically say, I have a Jack Dorsey, the 1221 01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:13.319 original founder of Puyer with simswap. And one of the ways that happens to 1222 01:36:13.399 --> 01:36:16.199 people is you have a lot of data out there about yourself. It gets 1223 01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:20.560 leaked, it gets breached, and I have enough information through maybe one or 1224 01:36:20.600 --> 01:36:26.039 more sources of breached leaked lost information about you that I can impersonate you. 1225 01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:28.479 So when I call verize them, when I call T Mobile, when I 1226 01:36:28.520 --> 01:36:30.439 call at and T and I say, you know, I'm such and such 1227 01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:33.479 and they say, you know, and this is at works. I'm such 1228 01:36:33.520 --> 01:36:36.960 and such. I bought a new phone. I need to transfer the phone 1229 01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:42.159 number from the old phone to my new phone. Right, it's not physically 1230 01:36:42.279 --> 01:36:46.039 swapping the SIM card out in this case, they're literally impersonating you and transferring 1231 01:36:46.119 --> 01:36:50.159 your phone number to a different physical device, at which point they can go 1232 01:36:50.399 --> 01:36:55.760 to the website and you know, they see certain information from your phone, 1233 01:36:56.119 --> 01:36:58.880 or they've already got that information, and they view the old well, I 1234 01:36:58.920 --> 01:37:00.760 want to change my password, and then it wants to send a two factor 1235 01:37:00.840 --> 01:37:04.159 authentication code. All that stuff is now going to the new phone. It's 1236 01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:08.680 not going to you on your old phone, which suddenly gets disconnected. And 1237 01:37:08.760 --> 01:37:13.920 by the way, if your phone suddenly will not connect to the cellular network, 1238 01:37:14.399 --> 01:37:16.279 that is a very strong red spike. You've been simswapped, and you 1239 01:37:16.319 --> 01:37:21.119 should immediately reach out to your provider and attempt to have them figure out what's 1240 01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:26.039 going on. There is no real defense for this, Gary Jeff, except 1241 01:37:26.159 --> 01:37:31.359 for to the extent your carrier provides it is to have some sort of secondary 1242 01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:35.159 authentication method with them, like a pin number. Verizon will let you enter 1243 01:37:35.720 --> 01:37:40.640 a separate pin and it will not switch your phone number from one phone to 1244 01:37:40.720 --> 01:37:45.000 another unless you can provide that pin. So Yeah, unfortunately they simswap this 1245 01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:48.720 one and then we're able to get into our accounts and steal seventeen thousand dollars. 1246 01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:53.920 It's a real problem. You know. If the average person going to 1247 01:37:53.960 --> 01:37:58.479 be targeted for this, probably not because it takes some work. But if 1248 01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:01.560 someone knows you have money, you're talking about having money, and if you've 1249 01:38:01.640 --> 01:38:05.479 had your data leaked to breach and or you don't use any of these security 1250 01:38:05.520 --> 01:38:10.880 mechanisms we're talking about, it's very well within the remo possibility you can have 1251 01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:14.880 your money stolen well. And I have never Dave, I have never been 1252 01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:20.399 happier about the fact that I literally have no money. Well, that definitely 1253 01:38:20.479 --> 01:38:27.199 reduces your risky certainly does. I love this next story too, Dave, 1254 01:38:27.279 --> 01:38:31.319 And we'll probably spend oh gosh, the next five six minutes that we have 1255 01:38:31.479 --> 01:38:39.720 talking about this. The Federal Trade Commission is they've they've gotten comments from people 1256 01:38:39.760 --> 01:38:43.880 and they're finding out that we'll find out soon if they're going to take any 1257 01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:48.239 action on the right to repair. If you own something, you buy something, 1258 01:38:48.479 --> 01:38:54.039 you ostensibly are supposed to own it, and you should be able to 1259 01:38:54.680 --> 01:38:58.520 be able to fix it if you want to fix it if it breaks down, 1260 01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:02.920 whether it's your call, whether it's a smartphone, a tractor, a 1261 01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:08.680 computer. If something breaks, you should be able to fix it yourself or 1262 01:39:08.920 --> 01:39:14.960 choose who who can take care of this for you. And of course especially 1263 01:39:15.079 --> 01:39:20.520 with cars, you know the rolling computers on wheels where people used to be 1264 01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:26.880 able to work on their own car. It's virtually impossible now for any kind 1265 01:39:26.920 --> 01:39:29.399 of new car for you to work on it, but you should be able 1266 01:39:29.479 --> 01:39:36.119 to. And the FTC is considering making rules that would give the consumer the 1267 01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:41.479 right to repair something that they own, right, Yeah, this has been 1268 01:39:41.520 --> 01:39:45.199 an ongoing battle for some time, Garry Jeff. And one last comment on 1269 01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:49.399 that last segment are the stem swapping and so forth. Again, if you 1270 01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:54.880 find your phone suddenly will not connect, strong indication something bad is up, 1271 01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:59.720 you should contact your carrier. And I would strongly encourage everyone out there connect 1272 01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:01.000 with your cell, your carrier, whoever that is, and see if you 1273 01:40:01.079 --> 01:40:06.319 can what what mechanisms they provide to you know, for to try to block 1274 01:40:06.399 --> 01:40:10.359 sim swapping, because I think you're going to see a rise in it as 1275 01:40:10.439 --> 01:40:13.479 more people's data is breached, so you know, something to keep in mind, 1276 01:40:13.560 --> 01:40:15.800 but get right to repair. This is a concept that's been around for 1277 01:40:15.800 --> 01:40:18.880 a while as all of our devices, like you're a smart toilet, you 1278 01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:20.760 know, I don't even know if you could call a plumber on that, 1279 01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:25.079 Gary Jets. You might have to call like a computer technician. Thing jams 1280 01:40:25.159 --> 01:40:27.439 up, you know, and then when they get there and they say, 1281 01:40:27.479 --> 01:40:30.000 oh, well you can't. You can't work on it because we have our 1282 01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:32.479 intellectual property in the software and the toilet. So yeah, you're not going 1283 01:40:32.560 --> 01:40:36.039 to be able to flush that. That's the kind of thing we're talking about 1284 01:40:36.079 --> 01:40:41.279 here. John Deere has become famous because you go out and buy a new 1285 01:40:41.359 --> 01:40:44.800 tractor, you know, expensive farm tractor. It's full of software, and 1286 01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:46.840 they tell you, well, you can't work on it yourself because you're violating 1287 01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:51.199 our intellectual property. People may have heard the term digital rights management and the 1288 01:40:51.239 --> 01:40:55.840 Digital Rights Management Act. These things all kind of intersect and complict with each 1289 01:40:55.880 --> 01:40:59.920 other, and so this has been an ongoing battle really, you know, 1290 01:41:00.039 --> 01:41:04.000 for the past maybe decade or so, as people increasingly realize our so called 1291 01:41:04.039 --> 01:41:10.159 smart devices are full of software and the companies that make them your car for 1292 01:41:10.319 --> 01:41:15.399 example. I also encourage people go check out Mozilla, the Firefox browser people. 1293 01:41:15.479 --> 01:41:17.399 They did a report not too long ago. I think we talked about 1294 01:41:17.399 --> 01:41:21.880 it on all the crazy privacy problems with new cars. It's going to blow 1295 01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:26.920 most people's minds. If you go to Mozilla Privacy not Included, you can 1296 01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:30.039 find the link there. But you know, it's exactly the way you described 1297 01:41:30.079 --> 01:41:32.239 it. You know, you buy a new car, it's full of software. 1298 01:41:32.399 --> 01:41:34.880 You can't hardly work on it yourself, and then if you try to 1299 01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:39.079 do anything to it or take it to certain shops that aren't approved, they 1300 01:41:39.159 --> 01:41:41.399 don't want you to work on it because they're telling you. You know, 1301 01:41:41.439 --> 01:41:45.439 they tell you, well, you're violating our rights to our intellectual property. 1302 01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:47.720 I'm trying to make this as simple as possible for people to understand. So 1303 01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:53.600 the FTC recently had a comment period about this. Apparently it's closed, but 1304 01:41:53.800 --> 01:41:59.079 lots of organizations like the Electronic Frontier Foundation have been battling this for some time, 1305 01:41:59.319 --> 01:42:02.520 and I think some headway being made because recently Apple has come out in 1306 01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:06.319 favor of this, and they've been one of the organizations. While I'm generally 1307 01:42:06.359 --> 01:42:11.239 more of an Apple fan than most of their competitors. They're generally more privacy 1308 01:42:11.359 --> 01:42:15.279 and security for me than others. They have actually now sort of reverse course 1309 01:42:15.319 --> 01:42:18.560 and come out in favor of right to repair. So when people hear the 1310 01:42:18.640 --> 01:42:21.560 term right to repair, that's what it's talking about. You have bought a 1311 01:42:21.600 --> 01:42:26.439 product, You own the product, despite the fact that it has software in 1312 01:42:26.520 --> 01:42:29.159 it, and you have the right to try to repair it yourself or take 1313 01:42:29.239 --> 01:42:32.079 it to someone else who has the skills and capabilities to work on it, 1314 01:42:32.439 --> 01:42:35.760 rather than being forced into you know, I got to go back to John 1315 01:42:35.840 --> 01:42:40.439 Deere or Apple or whomever else. So, yeah, it's long ever due 1316 01:42:40.479 --> 01:42:42.920 Garry, Jeff. We need this. We needed this for a long time. 1317 01:42:43.640 --> 01:42:50.600 And eff eff what Dave? We lost Dave. I don't know why, 1318 01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:55.920 hold we lost you just but listen, Dave, we're almost out of 1319 01:42:56.000 --> 01:43:00.680 time. Eff. Is something people should remember when it comes to this story 1320 01:43:00.760 --> 01:43:04.479 on right to repair, right, Yeah, when you talk about privacy quick 1321 01:43:04.520 --> 01:43:11.000 they're one of the leading organizations out there, the FS. I just appreciate 1322 01:43:11.079 --> 01:43:15.680 the fact that in talking about the smart toilet and repairing a smart toilet, 1323 01:43:15.760 --> 01:43:19.880 you said, jammed up. Uh, you gotta have a little levity garret 1324 01:43:19.960 --> 01:43:24.159 jet or you lose your mind on that. You have a great rest of 1325 01:43:24.199 --> 01:43:26.239 the evening, what's left of it, and we'll talk to you soon. 1326 01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:30.439 Thank you. Dave Hatter with us on the night cap of seven Utter WLW. 1327 01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:34.880 Did you know that if you miss any part of our shows, you 1328 01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:40.319 can catch the podcast of that show on the iHeartRadio ad? 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