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Well, we all know inflation is
here. It's here to stay.

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The numbers have been coming in higher
than the so called experts we're expected.

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The only thing this expert is done
by is the fact that they admitted that

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inflation is coming in higher than expect
it. Well, we've got a really

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good guest on today, Andrew Winnett. You're look, you've been around Hollywood

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literature, finance, you produced,
You produced movies like The Retirement Deception and

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The Baby Boomer Dilemma, So you're
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First, where does inflation come from? I mean, I know that most

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of you out there know it,
but it never hurts to refresh and get

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a different view on that. Andrew, thanks for coming on. And oh,

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if you've got a question for Andrew
or myself, shoot me an email

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kl at Karrie LUTs dot com.
So, Andrew, it's great to have

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you on Where does inflation come from? You know, like if you listen

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to the politicians, they just can't
figure it out. They have no idea.

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But you and I know differently,
don't we, Well you do,

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Carrie. It's great to be with
you. So there's a lot of problems

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that we're experiencing in our economy right
now. Inflation is clearly one of the

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biggest. You know, we're I
don't want to kick a dead horse,

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but you know, to oversimplify,
when we elect dead horses in this country,

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we don't kick them. That's true. That's that is true. Hopefully

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we don't do that again here in
a couple of months. But so when

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we print too much money, obviously
it's going to have an inflationary effect.

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You know, if you look at
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across thirty four trillion dollars. We're
on a run rate of ten trillion

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per year through twenty thirty. I
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Now, the inflation problem. You
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Jerme Powell, which is kind of
like the Wizard of Oz, he's the

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guy in the behind the scenes who's
pushing all the levers, and he has

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a big part to play in this
inflation issue. And you know, the

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Federal Reserve, they really only have
a couple of tools in their tool bell,

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and oftentimes it just takes us on
this merry go round dealing with inflation

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and then combating inflation by raising interest
rates, and the interest rates to destroy

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the economy and we go into a
recession. And then we lower interest rates

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essentially quantitative easing, printing money,
and the cycle starts over. And so

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we're in another cycle. But the
problem is is that this merry go round

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can only go around so many times
before this debt is unsustainable. What I'm

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concerned about is not just inflation,
but it's also how is the stock market

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going to perform in the long term. We are going to have inflation.

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In fact, if you were to
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eighties, you know, the Paul
Wolker era, when we had double digit

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inflation. You know, back then, they were factoring in food and energy

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into that CPI number. And they're
being honest about it. Right last year.

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You know, for for a long
long time, the definition of a

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recession was two quarters of negative GDP. Well we had that last year,

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and then all of a sudden,
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no, no, we're going to
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had two quarters of make EDP.
We're going to change the definition. That's

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not what a recession is anymore.
They're doing the same thing with inflation now.

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They're extracting food and energy out of
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percent of the entire metric. And
so the numbers that we're getting are flawed,

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they're skewed, they're manipulated. You
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percent inflation rate. That's never going
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know, we're having a hard time
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three point two, the sticky inflation. I'm concerned that inflation is going to

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continue to go up. And as
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going to have to do there.
We're going to have to keep rates higher,

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and something's going to break. Banks
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We're going to have a lot of
problems moving forward. And I'll end

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it with one other thought. You
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at essentially all time highs. I
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But you know, there's that old
adage and obviously we all listen to the

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same experts, but if you show
me your demographics, I'll show you your

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future. You know, predicting the
stock market on the short term is extremely

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difficult, right It takes a really
big braining to look at the trends and

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predict, you know, what the
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day to day basis. Oftentimes,
when people do that, they end up

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becoming a chain smoking, you know, day trader and they're stressed out of

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the find losing their hair. But
predicting the stock market on the long term

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is actually very easy because it's all
demographically driven. Right. So, right

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now we have such a swelling elderly
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tsunami that around twenty thirty we are
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retiring, we're not going to have
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costs of social security, social security, disability, Medicare, and Medicaid.

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And we're not the only country in
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Western world is in this predicament.
Right, I've seen the charts. They're

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scary, they are terrifying. You're
absolutely right. Carry you look at Germany.

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Germany's in just as bad a shape
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situation. They're one child policy backfired
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Japan is the worst in the entire
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once the demographics get off kilter or
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If you look at Japan as an
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their stock market and I'm oversimplified,
but their stock market has been stagnant

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for three decades. You look at
Europe, They're an older country, same

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thing. Their stock market has been
relatively flatlined and stagnant for two decades.

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As we in America go into this
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stock market is not going to perform
like it has like we've enjoyed, and

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when that happens, inflation is going
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us even worse because we don't have
our accounts right, our stocks balls mutual

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funds that are combating inflation. So
we're facing some big problems. And then

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one little cherry on top. Stanford
Research recently came out and said, well,

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by twenty fifty, the average lifespan
will be a century long with AI

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technology and with modern medicine, so
people are going to be living longer.

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The stock market is not going to
perform as well. Inflation is going to

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be a consistent problem because of our
massive debt. I mean, it's kind

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of a recipe for disaster. You're
just a bundle of optimistic, cheery thoughts

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today, aren't you, Andrew.
Well, we have solutions. We have

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solutions, and if you'd like,
I'd be happy to kind of tell you

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always looking for solutions. Okay,
So I'll tell you a quick story when

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I was when I was dating my
now wife Jazz. We were on our

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I don't know, second or third
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and I decided, you know what, I'm going to take her to

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a batting cage, right like,
you know, to you know, hit

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baseballs. I don't know how romantic, oh, I know, I just

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want you know. I was trying
to show off. I'm pretty athletic,

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but I never played baseball. You
know. I thought, oh I could

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do this. You know, I'm
going to show where manly I am.

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So we go to this batting cage
and again we're getting to know each other.

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And I did not know this,
but my you know, now to

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be wiped. She got a full
Righte scholarship for playing softball, So I

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mean she wiped the floor with me. She crushed it. Every ball she

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hit out of the bark and I
can't hit a stink in baseball. It

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was so embarrassing. I had to
surrender my man card. It was humiliating,

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as you're right, you see,
that's what happens when you're when you

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make assumptions about the fairer sex.
That's true. Yeah, I made a

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great error there. But winning the
game of retirement is a lot like winning

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the game of baseball. Okay.
The way you win the game of baseball

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they call it small ball, and
small ball is you hit singles and doubles

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and you never strike out. It's
the fundamentals, right, don't try to

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hit the home run. It's singles
and doubles and never strike out. Well,

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at our firm, my personal belief
is how you win the game of

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baseball is how you win the game
of retirement. If you can earn five

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to seven percent net okay, so
net of fees, net of you know,

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any loss, and you never strike
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you're gonna win the game of retirement. So you don't win baseball by strikeout,

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strikeout, home run, strikeout,
strikeout, strikeout, home run.

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That's not how you win. It's
singles and doubles and never striking out.

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I believe in retirement as you get
older, right, it's not so much

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about how much do you learn,
it's how much do you not lose.

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You know Ted Betta, the founder
of the four to one k he's in

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my first movie. He talks about
the danger zone, which is five years

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before retirement and five years after.
And if you're in that danger zone and

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you lose twenty percent he said this, I didn't say this. If you

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lose twenty percent in that danger zone, he said, you would never recover

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it. Now that's sobering because we
have a beer market, or at least

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we should one out of every four
or five years, right, So that

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is a big problem. So if
you can are five to seven percent and

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never go backwards, you're going to
win the game of retirement, just like

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you'd win the game of baseball singles
and doubles, never strikeout. I'm every

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now and then you get a Grand
Slam and you really clean up. So

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right, but now you got to
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Right, that's right, yep,
And that is a big problem.

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And that's why for us at our
firm. Okay, this is pretty unconventional,

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but when we're looking forward the next
fifteen years, we're trying to factor

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in inflation, we're trying to factor
in the risk of the stock market,

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okay, the stock market not performing
as well as it has. We're trying

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to factor in longevity risk because this
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In fact, the National Bureau of
Economic Research, this is in twenty and

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twelve. Okay, in twenty and
twelve, they came out with this report

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that fifty seven percent of single,
divorce and widowed individuals will run out of

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money before they run out of life, and forty six percent of married couples

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will run out of money before they
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worse. It's literally one out of
two. It's a coin flip, right,

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heads, you don't run out of
money. Tails, you got to

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go back to work at Low's or
Home Depot or Starbucks, you know,

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and have some weird boss with face
tattoos and purple hair. It's brutal.

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I don't like those statistics, but
the odds are stacked against us, and

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so you have to have a conservative
approach when it comes to planning for your

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future. I'll give you another quick
metaphor. Have you climbed Mount Everest?

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Kerrey? No, It's on my
bucket list, but I'm sixty six.

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I think it's going to have to
wait for the next life. Andrew gotcha,

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Okay, I haven't either. One
of these days, I'm going to

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get somebody who says, yes,
I didn't know this, but more people

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die going down Mount Everest than going
up. Now. When I first heard

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that, I'm like, what,
that doesn't make any sense. But as

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I discovered more, you know,
when you're going up the mountain, you

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know you wake up early at base
camp. You ate your weedies that morning,

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you've got your eye on the prize. You're excited. You get to

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the top of the mountain, you
plant your flag, and this is where

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all the mistakes happen. You know, you stay up there too too long,

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you take too many selfies, you
get outageing sickness, and then you're

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disoriented, you're tired, you slip
on a crevass and you end up passing

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away. And the fatality rate for
climbing Mount Everest is about four percent,

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which is brutal. Well, saving
for your future, we'll call a retirement

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is a lot like climbing Mount Everest. When you're going up the mountain,

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Okay, this is your accumulation years, your twenties or thirties or forties or

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fifties, maybe even into your sixties. Right, you're saving money. You're

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putting it in the stock market.
You're kicking butt. And it doesn't matter

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if the stock market crashes. Why
because you have time to recover and time

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to recouprate. You've got a paycheck
coming in. You're good. But as

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you get towards the top of the
summit, this is where the mistakes happen,

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and going down the mountain. This
is your decumulation years, where you're

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enjoying what you've saved and Carrie,
this is where all the mistakes happen.

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And I often tell people that the
shirpah quote unquote, or the financial advisor

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or the way of investing that got
you up the mountain is rarely the right

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shirba or financial advisor or way of
investing to get you safely down. Why

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going down the mountain takes a different
skill set. You know, most people

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have financial advisors in those accumulation years, and they're good at growing your money.

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The wealth management guys, that's important. It's good, right, Maybe

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you're doing it on your own,
that's awesome, But as although it's good,

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it's often incomplete on the downhill side
of the mountain because there's more pieces

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of the puzzle that you've got to
consider. For example, you need to

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have long term care planning. Seven
out of ten people will find themselves in

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a long term care situation before they
pass. What about a state planning.

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You know, you saved your whole
life, you worked hard, how are

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you going to pass it on longevity
risk? What if we have another lost

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decade like we did in the SMP, where if you parked one hundred thousand

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in two thousand in the SMP,
you didn't see that same hundred thousand until

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twenty fourteen. That's fourteen years of
lost time because we had two crises in

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there, the dot com bubble,
global financial crisis. So how are you

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going to factor at all tax planning? Right? You may see a couple

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million bucks in your IRA, but
the IRA is an io you to the

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irs. You don't get to keep
all that money. So having a strategy,

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then we go to the lovely inflation, how are you going to keep

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up? Right? What about required
minimum distributions at seventy three? Right in

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twenty thirty three, you'll jump up
to seventy five. So if there's inflation

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that you're dealing with, and the
market happens to be down, and then

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the irs Uncle Sam says, Carrie
gets time to take out two hundred grand

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and pay taxes on it. If
the market's down, you realize the loss.

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So there's going to work to the
puzzle than just growing your money.

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And that's where we want to help
help our clients. Okay, so how

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do we do this here? How
do we get this done? How do

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I push these goals. Yes,
it's a great question. So I discovered

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a strategy. This may blow you
away by reading a story in the Book

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of Genesis. It's actually the story
of Joseph in the Bible. Many people

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are probably familiar, whether they believe
in God or not. It's a fascinating

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story. And there's five principles in
that story of Joseph that we base our

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entire firmon. And you know,
there's that old saying, if it's new,

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it's not true. If it's true, it's not new. This is

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thirty five hundred year old wisdom that
stood the test of time. But one

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of the strategies in there, we
call it this silo strategy. Okay,

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imagine if you would, that you're
looking at for silos right next to each

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other. The first one on the
very left is safety or emergency fund.

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Okay. The second one from the
left, so the one immediately to the

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right is income, the one the
third one to the right is growth,

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and the fourth one is long term
care slash estate planning. Okay, we'll

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go back to the first one,
and it's in order of importance from left

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to right, So safety is the
most important, then income, then growth,

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then long term care slashes, stay
planning with safety. On a typical

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portfolio, you want to have five
to ten percent of your overall portfolio invested

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in something liquid safety, you know, checking saving these money market so to

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use round numbers, to use easy
math. If you've got a million bucks,

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you want to have at least fifty
to one hundred grand in a checking

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your savings account that you can get
access to in a pinch. Right,

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if Fluffy gets sick, it's a
big deal. The heating and air unit

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goes out, the transmission explodes,
whatever, you need access to cash.

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But once that five to ten percent
is good, then we go to income.

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Now again, you may be retired
for thirty to forty years. Maybe

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not us guys we die early,
but our spouses, right, they may

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be retired for thirty to forty years. They need an income that they can

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count on. So fifty to seventy
percent of that overall portfolio is going to

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be ear art for income. Now, this could be social security. This

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could be not as well, call
social insecurity, I mean talk about that

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later. But real estate, income, pensions, you know, annuities,

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whatever the case may be, is
providing you at income you can count on

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fifty to seventy percent. One stat
is satisfied and you can count on it

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covering your bills, your fund money, and any sort of gifts or donations,

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benevolence, whatever. Then you go
to growth. Now this is going

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to vary depending upon the person and
their risk tolerance. This could be ten

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to twenty percent. Okay, now
this one you can be a little bit

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more risky with it because if the
market crashes, it's all good. You've

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got a steady income coming in that
you can count on. Right. And

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then finally long term care slash death
benefit. This one varies the most depending

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upon your goals, dreams, desires, conserves, and objectives. This is

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zero to twenty percent. So safety, income, growth, and estate planning.

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When it comes to income, we
want to make sure that your income

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is going to increase to help offset
inflation. We want to make sure it's

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in the safest institutions in our country. We want to make sure it's got

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to proven track record and it's been
around since the dinosaurs, and we want

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to make sure that no matter what
happens in our economy, barring armageddon,

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that is, it is predictable,
it's reliable and you can count on it.

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Once that's achieved, then the growth
you can be more risky. You

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can put it in the S and
P, you can put it in bitcoin,

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you can put it in high risk
investments. It's okay if you see

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some fluctuation there, because you're not
going to be living under a bridge because

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that income's covering everything. And then
find if you have more disposable income.

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That's long term care slash of state
planning. Obviously, there's many strategies that

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you can utilize, but when it
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usually deal with, that is a
silo strategy that we base everything upon,

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and it is bulletproof. If we
provide a written down income plan, we

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factor in a one third reduction in
social security. So Olivia Mitchell, who's

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the foremost expert of social security in
our country and really in the world.

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Other countries have their own version of
social security. They don't call it that.

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Of course, all the Nobel winning
economists point to Olivia as the expert

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of experts on that program. What's
her name again, Olivia Mitchell? Okay,

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and she's in my first movie,
The Baby Boomer Dilemma. But Olivia

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Mitchell talks about how because of the
mismanagement and bad stewardship of social security,

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which guys it is a full blown
by definition Ponzi scheme. You know,

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you know Bernie Madoff does it as
a high at a high level, he

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goes to prison. When you do
it at a gigantic level, you get

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reelected. It's ridiculous. So social
Security, because of again our demographic issue,

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they we are going to see We
weren't going to see a one third

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reduction in twenty forty, well then
it got bumped up to twenty thirty five.

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Now, when we filmed the movie
a couple of years ago, it's

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twenty thirty four, and today it's
twenty thirty three. Barring massive reform,

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we are going to see a one
third reduction in social security. How is

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that going to affect everybody here?
Social Security is a big piece of the

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puzzle when it comes to retirement.
So one of the things that we do

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is we're going to create a Social
Security stop gap fund. And what it

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does is it it's a bucket of
money that you put aside, that it

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grows, It bakes in the oven
at a very nice rate, typically around

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eight percent. And then if and
when that happens, you can turn this

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sucker on and you will not experience
any reduction in standard of living. Fact,

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in many situations you'll actually make more. So again, not to be

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mister doom and gloom Debbie Downer,
but social Security is going. It's headed

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for a cliff carry and unless you
know, we hope for the basketball,

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we prepare for the worst. You
know, there's that old proverb A prudent

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man foresees calamity and prepares himself for
it. But the simple move forward and

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get punished. And so we want
to make sure that everybody's in the know,

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that they're aware, so that they
can prepare. Hey, I got

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a question for you, So you
know, based upon what you're saying here,

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with the Social Security, you know, a cut and I don't know

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if we cut it through inflation or
they actually cut it, actually cut benefits.

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I just can't see him doing that. But I guess if you don't

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have a choice, you'd have a
choice. Yeah, do you take the

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maximum you can get now? Yeah? Do you wait till you're seven in

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a few years so you get thirty
percent more? It's a great question.

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I'll give you two answers. Uh
to address the first portion of the question.

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There's really only three, well there's
four. There's four ways they can

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solve this problem with social security.
Number one, raise taxes. That's highly

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unpopular. It's a political hot potato, and so nobody, you know,

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they kick the can on this thing, right, no one. That's not

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a way to get reelected. So
you get raise taxes. Number two,

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you can you can extend the full
retirement age, which, by the way,

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we saw what happened when they did
that in France. They about burned

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the country to the ground, right, right, that's not popular. They've

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done it. They've already done it. Though. It used to be sixty

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five. Now it's sixty six and
six months, and it goes up a

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couple months every every year, right
yeah, and it's actually sixty seven,

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so it's it for depending upon your
age, you maybe you know sixty six

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and six months, eight months,
nine months, but the full retirement age

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moving forward to sixty seven, well, they may have to bump it out

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two years to solve this problem.
Well that's two years, you know,

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and most people at sixty seven don't
want to wait till sixty nine. So

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they can extend for retirement age they
can raise taxes, or they can lower

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cost of living adjustments, which again
don't help, which they've done that as

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well. They've done that for years
already. It's you know, their definition

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of inflation forget it. Yeah,
so it's non key and then it's in

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arrears. Right. So we saw
this with COVID when we had nine percent

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inflation at the peak and they didn't
adjust the cost of living adjustments for almost

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entire year. So for a year, all of the Social Security benefits were

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being devalued in because of a nine
percent quote unquote inflationary rate. And it

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wasn't until the following year that they
finally got that cost of living adjustment.

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So again for that year, you
kind of got that's screwed again. The

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fourth reason, before I go off
on a tangent and my frustration with so

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security, the fourth way you could
solve it, and it's actually a pretty

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good idea, and Donald Trump,
love him or hate him, you know

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he did come up with this is
you could start being a net exporter of

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oil. We have so much natural
resource in America that we could actually solve

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that problem with social security and fund
it by exporting oil. Drill drill,

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drill. Now, again, that's
unpopular with a lot of folks, and

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it you know, who knows if
that will ever happen, but it could

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solve that problem. Again, there's
a lot of obstacles in the way.

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Now, that was the first my
first answer. As far as practically when

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changing claim social Security, here's a
really good limus test. Okay, if

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you are the quote unquote primary breadwinner, which means you make more to Social

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Security. Maybe your spouse works,
but you end up making more over your

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guys' career, then it is more
beneficial for you to wait until at least

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full retirement age to claim social Security. Now, your spouse, she can

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turn on her social Security and again
you need an expert, you know,

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we can help you with that.
But your spouse could turn it on at

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sixty two and then, depending upon
how big hers is, she could actually

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get the spousal benefit, which is
half of yours at sixty seven. And

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there's some strategies there. But here's
the math. Okay, as long as

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you are going to live past age
seventy nine, it is more beneficial for

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you to wait until full retirement age. Now, the mortality rate today in

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America for males is eighty four,
and for females is eighty seven. So

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as long as you don't have a
chronic illness or everybody in your family died

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in their sixties, it is better
for you to wait until full retirement age.

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If you're the primary breadwinner, you
end up that's the break even point.

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You end up making a lot more, not just for you, but

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for your spouse if you wait until
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Now maybe you're a single individual and
so you would be the primary breadwinner.

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Of course, you do want to
wait until least sixty seven. You don't

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have to wait till seventy. You
end up getting you know, eighty percent

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more per year from sixty seven to
seventy, but you're just getting paid on

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the back end. It's no more
of a big you know benefit. Sixty

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seven is the number? Okay?
Interesting, Yeah, well so sixty seven

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or sixty six and whatever months,
but call it sixty sixty seven. But

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if there's really a forty percent cut
coming, it is this forty right,

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thirty three, Yeah, in twenty
thirty that's only sixty is away now and

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right, so it's twenty thirty three, and it's a great point, Carrie.

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You know, the sentiment is,
well, maybe I should turn it

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on at sixty two. You know, I paid into this for super long.

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Let's get it while the getting's good, you know. But the thing

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is is, even if we have
a one third reduction, which we're planning

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on it happening. Most advisors,
in fact, I've never met another advisor

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that actually I've never I've talked to
dozens on this show, hundreds maybe over

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the years. No one ever said
they're going to cut. Yes, well

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that's what That's one of the reasons
we're different is we're factory in the worst

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case scenario, so and we prepare
for it. So if it doesn't happen,

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it's rivers of gravy and retirement.
But having said that, the sentiment

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can be, well, I'm going
to turn this on. It's going to

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get cut by a third. Yeah, I have the benefit now, but

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if you do the math, one
third of a watermelon, you know,

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a one through reduction of a watermelon
is still better than a one third reduction

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of rape. Right, you still
won't end up making more if you defer

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until sixty seven or four retirement age, whenever it may be for you,

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Right, I still defer that.
Yeah, that's a given. You should

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always defer. But the real question
is do you take it sixty seven or

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do you take it at seventy and
get the thirty percent benefit? And if

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we assume that you are correct,
all right, and we have no reason

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not to because it's obvious to many
of you out there that this is in

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fact coming here, right, If
we are in fact the ten year is

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going to take a one third hit. The question is, and you're going

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to be assuming you're going to live
longer than ten years, you could get

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your full retirement now or wait three
years? What's worth it? That's the

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question. Well, and this is
where the stakes are not so high.

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As long as you made it to
full retirement age. It's preference. Right.

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So if you're still working, as
an example, and you've got a

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bunch of money coming in and you
don't want to get taxed on the Social

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Security because by the way you're going
to you can get taxed on your Social

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Security and come up to eighty five
percent of whatever Social Security pays you,

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so you get double tax. It's
a joke, it's ridiculous. So if

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you want to defer that, if
you're making six figures, multiple six figures.

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You know your spouse is, you
know, still working. Maybe you

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don't need it. Yeah, I
defer it. That's fine, but it's

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not it's not going to make or
break the overall equation. You made it

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till full repowerment age. If you
want to turn it on, would you

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benefit from it? Would it provide
more peace of mind? Great? You

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know you have the green light for
me because at least you made it to

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full retirement age. Beyond that,
that's more preference. Yeah, all right,

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all right, Well, hey,
wech covered a lot of it early

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here. Andrew really appreciate your insights
mind. Why don't you tell us where

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at Retirement Renegade dot com. Retirement
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Andrew, one other thing. Real
estate. Yes, housing crisis exactly

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when we're talking retirement, that is
going to be people's largest asset generally.

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Yeah, hopefully you've had a mortgage
for a while, you paid it down

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or you bought it for cash when
it was really cheap, and now at

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the latest housing price inflation, presumably
the value of your home's really gone up.

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Yes, what do you do with
that? When? Do you like

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get rid of the house? Yeah? Downsize and is it worth it if

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you've got to get a mortgage anyway? Now? Well, also, I'll

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tell you this, I am a
gigantic fan of real estate. I am

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buying as much as I possibly can. We bought about five and a half

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million bucks in real estate last year. We'll buy twenty more renolds this year.

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Huge fan because it's a tangible asset
that typically keeps up with inflation.

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Now where I'm at in the Nashville
area. This is a booming area,

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a booming area, and so that
demand is driving prices up. As far

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as when you're retired and let's see, you're sitting on a ton of equity.

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You know, that's a complicated conversation. You know, most people in

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my area the average house is one
to one and a half million, and

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so most and most people have it
completely paid off. So it's like,

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well, you could downsize, but
where youre going to go, right?

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I mean, we live at such
an amazing area. Maybe you drive an

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hour into town and you buy a
house for four hundred grand and you pocket

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the million. You could do that. But wealth is really built on holding.

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It's it's it's long term holding.
You know, even even renolds,

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which most retirees you know have dabbled
with at some point in their life.

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You don't make money on the cash
flow. Typically, that just allows you

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to hold on to it for longer. The money eOne else to pay the

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debt if there is any debt,
right, that's right. But the real

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wealth builder is holding it so that
it can accumulate. You know, in

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our area, real estate's accumulating at
eight to ten percent, which is unbelievable.

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You're going to beat inflation there so, but if it if it keeps

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up, that's the big if,
right, Yes, yes, but I'm

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a huge fan of real estate.
Okay, Hey, we'll leave it at

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that. Ah kl at Carrie LUTs
dot com. If you have any questions,

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link to Andrews sites in the show
notes to this interview on Financial Survival

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Network dot com. Please sign up
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Expert extraordinaire and we'll talk to you
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