It is a special edition of the podcast. The Fight Freaks Unite recap usually
comes off the weekend. We'll call this a Fight Freaks Unite special interview that
Dan Raphael has with both combatants in the upcoming matchup on the undercard of Canelo
Alvarez, Jamel Charlo, Yes, Hazus Ramos and ericson the Hammer Lubin will
fight in the co feature in a very intriguing junior middleweight showdown, and Dan
recently spoke with both of them about the matchup, and certainly it is a
fight for both of them that could be a stepping stone towards a title shot,
in particular if Charlo is no longer the undisputed champion, and right now
he's not going to be because Tim Zoo will have the WBO belt. If
the belts are about to fracture and go different directions, the winner of this
fight is in great shape to be fighting for a world championship. It would
appear, certainly by twenty twenty four one of these guys, Ramos or Lubin
will be in that position, all right, So let's get to the conversations
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The matchup is Hazew's Ramos and ericson Lubin. You're gonna hear from both
of them right now. I'd like to welcome to the podcast. This week,
it's the young Junior middleweight contender prospect. We'll discuss what he thinks he
is. It's Hazewis Ramos, Hazus Ramos, welcome to the show. Thank
you very much for doing this now, Thank you guys. I appreciate you
us for having it. My pleasure us. So we're here to talk about
your big opportunity. You're in a big spot. Canelo Alvarez and Jamel Charlot.
They'll fight for the undisputed super middleweight Championship on September thirtieth, Teamobile Arena
on Showtime pay per view. You are in the plumb spot of the co
feature and what I think most boxing fans thinks the tremendous matchup between yourself and
Ericson Luban. Ericson's been around a bitty spot for world title. You're are
still on the rise at age twenty two, twenty and zero with sixteen knockouts,
and my first question for you is what is it? How does it
make you feel when you have the folks at PBC and everybody involved. Canello
of course has a say so over his events that they put you in this
plumb spot of the co feature of one of the biggest fights of the year.
It's truly an honor man. You know, I feel a two hundred
and as well as it's a huge responsibility. You know, it's something that
I had to think really seriously, and that's why I've been no working,
working really hard for this. You know, I've I've taken this but really
seriously, you know, as I do with all my fights. Like I
said, it's a it's a big responsibility and I have to go in there
one hundred percent and perform. I'm at very best, so I cannot,
you know, keep keep earning these type of stages for events. Well,
you were supposed to be in this exact same situation in the co feature back
on July twenty ninth, when Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford had their big,
huge fight. You were supposed to fight against Sir Joe Garcia. You suffered
a hand injury about two weeks before the fight and had to withdraw from the
fight. Obviously you couldn't fight that night. So the question is number one,
how is your hand now? Everything is good and healthy going into this
fight? Yeah, yeah, everything is good. Chining camp has been smoothly,
no problem with the hand anymore. And so then what does it say
because in addition to this spot, the one you were supposed to be on
in July on Crawford Spence, if you go back to earlier this year in
March once again on a big Showtime pay per view card, when David Benavidi's
and Caleb Plant had their significant fight, you were also in the co feature
and gotta win on that card against Joey Spencer by knockout. So what does
it say to you that they keep putting you in these wonderful positions? You
know, where's a tremendous amount of exposure on these gigantic cards that they're doing.
Yeah, you know, it just it just speaks to me how much
how much they believe in me. You know, I have a great team
behind me. They believe in me, and they're getting I feel like they're
getting me ready for the biggest stages. Hopefully one day I'm headlining the main
events in pay per view cards and I'll be more than ready. You know,
fighting fighting on these type of events is is It's not easy. You
know, I had to learn. You know, my first couple of times,
I was nervous. It was a lot going on. But I'm getting
the hang of it and I'm getting better at everything, you know. So,
like I said, thank you, thank you to everybody in the PBC
family, you know, devolved. I feel like my career has been has
been taking care of the right way. Well, one thing about it is,
uh, you have already fought some good quality opponents and you keep kind
of moving up the ladder. You're twenty two, I mentioned, I said,
you're a young contender or prospect. Do you consider yourself at this moment
a contender or do you still feel like you know you haven't got that type
of win just yet. Although I win against Luban, I think most people
would then say, you know what, this kid's not just a prospect.
He just beat a really quality guy and he is a contender. But how
do you view yourself going into the fight? Yeah, I feel like I'm
a contender, you know, I feel like I'm past the prospect stage.
But you know, with the win over Lubin, I think it would solidify
that. So you got to keep winning and keep moving up that up that
ladder. Well, Luban has, uh, you know, he's got a
couple of losses. He lost to charlot In in one hundred fifty four pound
world title fight. He was very young and just got caught in round one.
He had a tremendous fight of the Year candidate back and forth against Fendora.
Uh, that was, you know, just a great battle. That
was his only other loss. But he's also beating some good fighters. So
for him, this is obviously he's taken on a young, younger guy on
the rise. You know, he's trying to maintain his position. What is
it Luban bring to the table for you, Like, what does a win
against him mean? In your mind. It means, you know, I'm
sliding, fying my spot in the top. But no, the rest of
the guys, there's not a lot of names after Lupin. You know,
there's Tim zoo by him and Dooza Charlo, But like I said, after
after Lubin, you know, there's not a lot of guys. So what
are your position I'd be positioning myself at the top of these guys, and
uh, that's that's how that I that I want, you know, keep
keep keep earning my spot at the top until they get that world title shot.
So then what what are your thoughts about Luban? You know, because
I think people watch you, you make very entertaining fights. Luban has done
the same. How do you think the fight goes? And just what are
your thoughts about what Erickson brings to the to the table that will help you
get better. He's just strong fighter. He's like he said, he's got
a lot of experience. He's been there. So I feel like all that's
gonna you know, it's gonna bring something out of me. I'm gonna have
too, And he's got his strong worlds as well. You know, he's
not gonna la laid back and laid down, you know, with with one
shot, he's gonna keep coming. So I'm not to take you round by
round trying to break his world round by round, try to get him out
of there. And like I said, that's all gonna give me experience.
It's gonna help me, you know, in the future. And and he's
a different style than what I faced before. So all that helps, you
know, all the helps become a complete fighter, mon experienced fighter, and
more mature fighter as well. So let me just ask you one more question
than about that you mentioned before, about the other fighters in the weight class.
You mentioned Brian Mendoza who's got one of the interim titles now in twenty
twenty one, you beat him, and you know you did it pretty handily.
He went on to beat Fandora. Now he's the one getting a title
shot against Tim Zoo. They'll fight later, you know, in the next
month or two. So you already beat a guy like that if you get
a win against Lubin. You just knocked out Joey Spencer earlier in the year,
who was an undefeated fighter that people, some people consider like a really
good prospect. Do you feel like a victory over Lubin should put you right
there. I know you said you feel like you're a contender, but you
know, does that put you on the doorstep all fighting for a title,
whether it's Charlotte coming back to the weight class, or it's Tim Zoo after
that, or somebody else that may pick up a title that Charlote may eventually
vacate. Yeah, definitely, I feel like all that, all these fights
have I've been earning my spot, you know, Like I said, that's
the main thing. I just want to earn that that title show when the
time comes, you know, I don't want anything given. I want to
earn it by beating these guys, you know, having having the having a
great resume with great names, and that's what That's the path that I'm on
right now. I got just one more question for it and then we'll wrap
it up. How big has it been for your development that you come from
a boxing family, your your uncle Obbo has been an excellent welterweight contender for
several years. Spot for a title against Ugas was also on this card.
Uh, and so you've been around it pretty much your whole life is It's
just sort of like what the family does like has that been a big part
of your development coming from that type of background, Yeah, most definitely.
Man, coming from from a background like that, able being you know,
in the gym with me all the time, having that experience, you know,
it just it just helps out so much more. You know, my
father in my corner, and you know, it's it helps a lot.
Like you said, in my family, I feel like we're all very calm,
We're all very humble, and that helped me stay humble. That helped
me keep my feet on the ground and just keep working hard, man,
just by biting down and working hard every day. Well, I appreciate that,
Jeseus. And I'll tell you when people heard, they were excited about
Charlo and Canello and I got a lot of reaction when they heard that the
co feature was going to be Hazeus Ramos taking on ericson Lubin. So I
think a lot of people are excited for this fight. I wish you the
best of luck in the fight, and I thank you very much for doing
this with me today. Thank you. I appreciate you times been good luck.
Well. I'm joined today on the podcast by the junior middleweight contender Ericson
Lubin Ericson, thank you very much for doing this. How have you been
You're getting ready for a big fight on the Canello undercard against Charlo. I'm
good, man, I'm good. Training can has been great. I feel
good. Ready about two more weeks. I'm glad to hear that. So,
just to let folks know, you're fighting the young contender Hajeseus Ramos and
the co feature Big Spot on September thirtieth on Showtime pay per view at the
Team Mobile Arena. And I have to ask you when when? Uh,
you know, people were very excited when they heard about Charlot fighting against Canelo,
and then they came the announcement of the undercard fights, and when they
when? I when I heard from different boxing fans and even other people in
the business, and and the co future was announced that it's going to be
Eric Sanlubin against Hazews Ramos. I think the universal reaction was, Wow,
that's a that's a pretty good fight. That's a really good fight. What's
your take on, like, how good a fight that is? I mean,
you you follow boxing, that's a good fight. Yeah, it's a
great fight. It's a great fight. It's a fight I asked for.
I'm sure he probably asked what I heard him say something about him ask and
put his fight a fight before he even fought Joey Spencer. I think he's
a he's a he's a good fighter. He comes to fight another South pause
with the South povers, the South Paul matchup, and it's gonna be fun.
What was it about hazews Ramos that made you think of all the different
guys in the weight class, that was somebody that you'd like to fight.
I felt like he was the best available. You know. The guys I
wanted to fight were like Sebastian Fandor. I obviously want my rematch with him.
I want my rematch with Charlow, you know, and those fights wanted
available. Ask for Tim Zoo and he's fighting Brian Mendoza, and he had
other plans. So I said, give me the next, you know,
best thing, and that's not Brian Mendoza was so when he was doing some
of his media discussions and talking in different interviews and things like that, and
I talked to him also. One of the things that he had said with
a lot of respect towards you, but he said a win for me against
Eric Sanlubin means that I'm ready for a title shot, and that's a huge
statement. And I wonder from your perspective, what is a win against Hazers
Ramos, who's the younger, up and coming guy, where you're the more
established veteran. What is a win over that that over Haze's Ramos? What
does it say for you? It's solidifies that, you know, top top
three, you know, top three guys in the division, or even top
two in the division. You know, I feel like he's a he's a
he's a great young fighter, and I don't feel like, you know,
he's beating Bryan and those are already He's the WBC champion. So I feel
like a win over Hayes's Ramos is uh, it's pretty big. It's uh.
It shows that you know that I'm still here, still one of the
top guys, and I deserve a title shot. Well, I said,
you know you're the You're the more veteran fighter in the fight. He's twenty
two years old, but it's not like you're an old man. You're only
twenty seven years old. For a lot of guys, they just be coming
into their best. You know you've already had, you know, a number
of fights against a lot of name guys and some good wins, and I
looked at your record just to refresh myself before we were getting ready to do
the interview. Listen, you got knockout wins against Jason Rozzario, who was
a former unified champion. You haven't knocked out win against eh Smith, who
was a former champion and a fighter who was in the top of the weight
class for a very long time. You have a good win over the Olympian
Terrell Gachet, who fought for a world title. Even in your last fight.
Now, most people wouldn't say Luis Arius as a super top contender,
but you were the first guy to ever stop him, and Lewis Arius is
known for being a real solid, tough guy. For some reason, people
just seem to remember your two losses, which was a fight of the Year
candidate against fandor that you mentioned him, which was a super close fight.
And you know, you got caught by the best guy in the division when
you were a very young fighter against Charlot. So how do you change sort
of the the take that people have on ericson Luban that you know you're about
more than just a couple of longs's sleep on Me, Sleep on Me?
And the way I changed that September thirtieth, you know, with a statement
win against zus Ramos. You know, a statement win is on a very
huge stage. It's a you know, Canelo versus Charlotte's on a pay per
view comin event. So the way I changed changed your minds is going in
there and being at my best and coming out with a with a statement victory,
a convinction win. Do you think that that attitude that a lot of
people have is sort of unfair? Like it seems to me like, you
know, a guy that's that's willing to fight everybody, that's got some very
good wins, that's got some tough losses, but one was super close fight
of the year, Like, is it a kind of an unfair way that
they position you in some fashion? I don't think of it too much.
I don't think of it too much. I just you know, guys like
myself, they'll they'll appreciate me more when I'm retired. You know, they'll
appreciate me more when I'm retired. And you know, I feel like I
feel like I'm always I've always been willing to fight the best in the division.
I've always been willing to fight the best guys. So I don't know,
I don't really think of it too much. I don't really care about
it, Okay, fair enough. I remember thinking at the time, by
the way, and I covered that fight that you had with Charlotte in twenty
seventeen, and I remember Eric Sanlubin, I had you as my prospect of
the year back in the day, and I thought you were just one of
the best young guys I've seen in a long time. And when you when
you got that fight with Charlot, I have to admit I did think maybe
you'd bit off a little more than you get you at that moment, just
because of the lack of experience, and obviously it didn't go your way the
way that it ended. When you look back on it, did you sort
of think, you know what, maybe I did take that a little bit
too quick and I would have been better served with a couple more fights of
say apprenticeship and sort of, you know, work my way into a championship
fight, or you know, or are you just too young and hungry and
you know, weren't thinking like that During the time, I was just feeling
like, man, I'm just you know, this is my time to shine.
You know, they put that fight in front of me. But now
I think about it, maybe maybe it was a little bit too early,
And I feel like when I when I look at Hazu Stramos and I look
at what's going on and how the media is taking the fight, I kind
of feel the same way. Like I feel like everybody's you know, you
know, they're doing the same things they were. They were saying about me.
They're like, you know, he's young, and he's gonna do this,
he's gonna do that, And you know, I kind of sit back
and I laughed at it because you know, it's like it's the same shit
I was going through. You know, it's the same shit. I see
a smiling about it too. It's sort of like the shoes like the shoes
on the other foot now in a way, Yeah, yeah, it's I
don't know, man, I just I'm enjoying this though. I'm I'm enjoying
this whole thing. I get the proved out is wrong. You know,
they got me as the B side. I'm the underdog, and I'm just
embracing it. I'm embracing it because I know I'm coming out there and you
know, with my experience, my skill set, this has been a great
training camp for myself. You know, I just bought ten weeks ago,
so you know, me being active, it was one thing I've all I've
asked for for the past couple of years. You know, I've been fighting
just once a year since twenty twenty, and now they got me, you
know, right back. So I always told them this, this brings the
best out of me, and it has shown September thirtieth, So a lot
of people even a year later, year and a half later, I guess
at this point, they still talk about the fight. Yeah, with Fendor,
it was a very close fight. Uh you know, you know,
you both were on the deck it got stopped. A lot of people thought
it was the fight of the year. Uh. You know, Kevin Cunningham,
your trainer, elected to stop that fight. Do you understand it was
after the ninth round? Are you cool with why he stopped it? Did
you understand why he stopped it? I know you said you wanted to get
that he stopped it for sure. Yeah, I understand why he stopped.
You know, he's just looking out for me. You know, Kevin Cunningham,
he's a he's competitive as well, and that's why we fished so well
because he's he's very competitive. And you know, it's a fight. I
was winning. If you look at the score cards, I was up on
all three score cards, winning by I think two rounds, and you know
it's boxing. Though it's boxing. My face didn't react well. I had
a I had a by ac joint was was messed up on my shoulder,
and I understand why he stopped it, but you know those up to me,
I was gonna keep fighting. Well, while you're answering that question,
I did look at the scores. You in fact were ahead eighty four eighty
five to eighty four on two scorecards, and the third scorecard actually was even
at eighty five eighty five, so it was close. And like you said,
you know, you understand what happened with your trainer. I wonder is
there is there any kind of like silver lining to know that a big party
of reputation is that Arison Luban makes great fights and that was a fight of
the Year candidate. And you know, I find that as as time passes,
the fogginess of like who actually won the fight sometimes goes away. The
fans remember it was a great fight. I'll ask a fan, hey,
how about that Mickey Ward Artaro Gotti fight, And they're like, oh,
those are great fights. They don't really remember who won the fight. They
just know that they thought it was an awesome fight. That seems to be
the kind of the way that that a fight like Fondor will be remembered in
the future. Okay, well, hey, I see, but it was
a great fight. A he's a good fighter. He's a great fighter too
all. I feel like the fight with him and by him and Doza,
he's winning that whole fight. Like people writing him off for a little bit,
I don't think they should. So, now that you know I'm gonna
now that you got this fight with Jesus coming up, I'm curious, just
briefly, how do you expect the fight to go. I'm expecting to just
follow the game plan and being my best and coming out with the win.
That's it. Coming out with the win. However, got to get it
understood that I would just wrap up with this. I gotta ask you about
the main event. Look, Charlot beat you. He became undisputed at one
hundred and fifty four pounds, but he's stepping up two weight classes to fight
Canelo Alvers, who's the undisputed champion in his weight class at super middleweight.
So I wonder, how do you think that the main event goes and what
happens and how close are you watching? Because you did mention that at some
time in the future you would like to have a rematch with Charlo. Absolutely,
I feel like I feel like people are sleeping on Charlo. He's always
alive dog. You know, he has a he has a great i Q.
He has a bet IQ than what they what they think, you know.
I just feel like if the if the old Canelo you know, is
back in that ring, then maybe a little bit more than what he can
handle. But what what Charlo can handle? But I feel like he still
has a shot. Do you ask me? All right? Ericson, thank
you very much. I guess September thirtieth, it's hammertime, right, yes,
sir? All right, man, I appreciate your time, and I
wish you're good luck in to fight and I look forward to seeing you in
Las Vegas. Appreciate it, all right, So there you go. That's
the matchup for the cod feature fight that will be taking place on the undercard
of Canelo Charlo Las Vegas on September thirty. What will happen between Ramos and
Luban. You've got an excellent preview there from Dan again. Thank you for
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