1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:07,519 It is a special edition of the podcast. The Fight Freaks Unite recap usually 2 00:00:07,599 --> 00:00:12,919 comes off the weekend. We'll call this a Fight Freaks Unite special interview that 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:19,239 Dan Raphael has with both combatants in the upcoming matchup on the undercard of Canelo 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:24,239 Alvarez, Jamel Charlo, Yes, Hazus Ramos and ericson the Hammer Lubin will 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:30,199 fight in the co feature in a very intriguing junior middleweight showdown, and Dan 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,359 recently spoke with both of them about the matchup, and certainly it is a 7 00:00:35,399 --> 00:00:39,079 fight for both of them that could be a stepping stone towards a title shot, 8 00:00:39,439 --> 00:00:44,119 in particular if Charlo is no longer the undisputed champion, and right now 9 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,679 he's not going to be because Tim Zoo will have the WBO belt. If 10 00:00:47,679 --> 00:00:51,079 the belts are about to fracture and go different directions, the winner of this 11 00:00:51,119 --> 00:00:54,840 fight is in great shape to be fighting for a world championship. It would 12 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,560 appear, certainly by twenty twenty four one of these guys, Ramos or Lubin 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,439 will be in that position, all right, So let's get to the conversations 14 00:01:03,479 --> 00:01:06,840 now that Dan had with both fighters. We remind you to be following and 15 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,719 subscribing to this podcast feed, the Big Fight Weekend podcast feed, because you're 16 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,840 gonna get great content just like this and a lot of times you don't need 17 00:01:12,879 --> 00:01:18,239 any help. Social media link Dan sub Stack off the Internet, off Bigfight 18 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,879 Weekend dot Com. You'll just get an automatic notification if you're following or subscribing 19 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,640 on Spreaker, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google podcast without any further delay. 20 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,840 The matchup is Hazew's Ramos and ericson Lubin. You're gonna hear from both 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:36,400 of them right now. I'd like to welcome to the podcast. This week, 22 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,000 it's the young Junior middleweight contender prospect. We'll discuss what he thinks he 23 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,760 is. It's Hazewis Ramos, Hazus Ramos, welcome to the show. Thank 24 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:47,920 you very much for doing this now, Thank you guys. I appreciate you 25 00:01:47,959 --> 00:01:49,920 us for having it. My pleasure us. So we're here to talk about 26 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,439 your big opportunity. You're in a big spot. Canelo Alvarez and Jamel Charlot. 27 00:01:55,519 --> 00:02:00,680 They'll fight for the undisputed super middleweight Championship on September thirtieth, Teamobile Arena 28 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:02,760 on Showtime pay per view. You are in the plumb spot of the co 29 00:02:02,879 --> 00:02:07,599 feature and what I think most boxing fans thinks the tremendous matchup between yourself and 30 00:02:07,719 --> 00:02:12,039 Ericson Luban. Ericson's been around a bitty spot for world title. You're are 31 00:02:12,039 --> 00:02:15,000 still on the rise at age twenty two, twenty and zero with sixteen knockouts, 32 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,560 and my first question for you is what is it? How does it 33 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:23,759 make you feel when you have the folks at PBC and everybody involved. Canello 34 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,479 of course has a say so over his events that they put you in this 35 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,080 plumb spot of the co feature of one of the biggest fights of the year. 36 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,599 It's truly an honor man. You know, I feel a two hundred 37 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,919 and as well as it's a huge responsibility. You know, it's something that 38 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:44,159 I had to think really seriously, and that's why I've been no working, 39 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,719 working really hard for this. You know, I've I've taken this but really 40 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:50,879 seriously, you know, as I do with all my fights. Like I 41 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,360 said, it's a it's a big responsibility and I have to go in there 42 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,719 one hundred percent and perform. I'm at very best, so I cannot, 43 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:05,039 you know, keep keep earning these type of stages for events. Well, 44 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:07,879 you were supposed to be in this exact same situation in the co feature back 45 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,439 on July twenty ninth, when Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford had their big, 46 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,080 huge fight. You were supposed to fight against Sir Joe Garcia. You suffered 47 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,280 a hand injury about two weeks before the fight and had to withdraw from the 48 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,719 fight. Obviously you couldn't fight that night. So the question is number one, 49 00:03:22,759 --> 00:03:24,120 how is your hand now? Everything is good and healthy going into this 50 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:29,319 fight? Yeah, yeah, everything is good. Chining camp has been smoothly, 51 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,719 no problem with the hand anymore. And so then what does it say 52 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,759 because in addition to this spot, the one you were supposed to be on 53 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,240 in July on Crawford Spence, if you go back to earlier this year in 54 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:44,520 March once again on a big Showtime pay per view card, when David Benavidi's 55 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,319 and Caleb Plant had their significant fight, you were also in the co feature 56 00:03:47,639 --> 00:03:52,560 and gotta win on that card against Joey Spencer by knockout. So what does 57 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:58,560 it say to you that they keep putting you in these wonderful positions? You 58 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,439 know, where's a tremendous amount of exposure on these gigantic cards that they're doing. 59 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:05,120 Yeah, you know, it just it just speaks to me how much 60 00:04:05,159 --> 00:04:08,319 how much they believe in me. You know, I have a great team 61 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:11,000 behind me. They believe in me, and they're getting I feel like they're 62 00:04:11,039 --> 00:04:15,599 getting me ready for the biggest stages. Hopefully one day I'm headlining the main 63 00:04:15,639 --> 00:04:18,279 events in pay per view cards and I'll be more than ready. You know, 64 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:25,199 fighting fighting on these type of events is is It's not easy. You 65 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,600 know, I had to learn. You know, my first couple of times, 66 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:31,199 I was nervous. It was a lot going on. But I'm getting 67 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,079 the hang of it and I'm getting better at everything, you know. So, 68 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:38,079 like I said, thank you, thank you to everybody in the PBC 69 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,279 family, you know, devolved. I feel like my career has been has 70 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,839 been taking care of the right way. Well, one thing about it is, 71 00:04:46,399 --> 00:04:49,040 uh, you have already fought some good quality opponents and you keep kind 72 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,319 of moving up the ladder. You're twenty two, I mentioned, I said, 73 00:04:51,399 --> 00:04:55,800 you're a young contender or prospect. Do you consider yourself at this moment 74 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,319 a contender or do you still feel like you know you haven't got that type 75 00:04:59,319 --> 00:05:01,720 of win just yet. Although I win against Luban, I think most people 76 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:04,160 would then say, you know what, this kid's not just a prospect. 77 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,240 He just beat a really quality guy and he is a contender. But how 78 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,639 do you view yourself going into the fight? Yeah, I feel like I'm 79 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:14,879 a contender, you know, I feel like I'm past the prospect stage. 80 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:18,240 But you know, with the win over Lubin, I think it would solidify 81 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:21,240 that. So you got to keep winning and keep moving up that up that 82 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:24,639 ladder. Well, Luban has, uh, you know, he's got a 83 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:27,839 couple of losses. He lost to charlot In in one hundred fifty four pound 84 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,560 world title fight. He was very young and just got caught in round one. 85 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,600 He had a tremendous fight of the Year candidate back and forth against Fendora. 86 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,040 Uh, that was, you know, just a great battle. That 87 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:40,439 was his only other loss. But he's also beating some good fighters. So 88 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,399 for him, this is obviously he's taken on a young, younger guy on 89 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,680 the rise. You know, he's trying to maintain his position. What is 90 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,720 it Luban bring to the table for you, Like, what does a win 91 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:54,199 against him mean? In your mind. It means, you know, I'm 92 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:57,079 sliding, fying my spot in the top. But no, the rest of 93 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,639 the guys, there's not a lot of names after Lupin. You know, 94 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,120 there's Tim zoo by him and Dooza Charlo, But like I said, after 95 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:11,040 after Lubin, you know, there's not a lot of guys. So what 96 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:15,879 are your position I'd be positioning myself at the top of these guys, and 97 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,279 uh, that's that's how that I that I want, you know, keep 98 00:06:18,399 --> 00:06:23,319 keep keep earning my spot at the top until they get that world title shot. 99 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,839 So then what what are your thoughts about Luban? You know, because 100 00:06:25,959 --> 00:06:29,519 I think people watch you, you make very entertaining fights. Luban has done 101 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,160 the same. How do you think the fight goes? And just what are 102 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,240 your thoughts about what Erickson brings to the to the table that will help you 103 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,560 get better. He's just strong fighter. He's like he said, he's got 104 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,439 a lot of experience. He's been there. So I feel like all that's 105 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,040 gonna you know, it's gonna bring something out of me. I'm gonna have 106 00:06:45,079 --> 00:06:46,319 too, And he's got his strong worlds as well. You know, he's 107 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:49,360 not gonna la laid back and laid down, you know, with with one 108 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,920 shot, he's gonna keep coming. So I'm not to take you round by 109 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,319 round trying to break his world round by round, try to get him out 110 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,160 of there. And like I said, that's all gonna give me experience. 111 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:06,360 It's gonna help me, you know, in the future. And and he's 112 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:10,639 a different style than what I faced before. So all that helps, you 113 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,959 know, all the helps become a complete fighter, mon experienced fighter, and 114 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,240 more mature fighter as well. So let me just ask you one more question 115 00:07:17,279 --> 00:07:20,879 than about that you mentioned before, about the other fighters in the weight class. 116 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:26,040 You mentioned Brian Mendoza who's got one of the interim titles now in twenty 117 00:07:26,199 --> 00:07:29,600 twenty one, you beat him, and you know you did it pretty handily. 118 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,319 He went on to beat Fandora. Now he's the one getting a title 119 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:35,160 shot against Tim Zoo. They'll fight later, you know, in the next 120 00:07:35,639 --> 00:07:40,079 month or two. So you already beat a guy like that if you get 121 00:07:40,079 --> 00:07:43,279 a win against Lubin. You just knocked out Joey Spencer earlier in the year, 122 00:07:43,319 --> 00:07:46,000 who was an undefeated fighter that people, some people consider like a really 123 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,959 good prospect. Do you feel like a victory over Lubin should put you right 124 00:07:48,959 --> 00:07:51,279 there. I know you said you feel like you're a contender, but you 125 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:55,160 know, does that put you on the doorstep all fighting for a title, 126 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,839 whether it's Charlotte coming back to the weight class, or it's Tim Zoo after 127 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:01,399 that, or somebody else that may pick up a title that Charlote may eventually 128 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:07,160 vacate. Yeah, definitely, I feel like all that, all these fights 129 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,120 have I've been earning my spot, you know, Like I said, that's 130 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,639 the main thing. I just want to earn that that title show when the 131 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,680 time comes, you know, I don't want anything given. I want to 132 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,959 earn it by beating these guys, you know, having having the having a 133 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,720 great resume with great names, and that's what That's the path that I'm on 134 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:26,079 right now. I got just one more question for it and then we'll wrap 135 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:30,560 it up. How big has it been for your development that you come from 136 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,360 a boxing family, your your uncle Obbo has been an excellent welterweight contender for 137 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:37,480 several years. Spot for a title against Ugas was also on this card. 138 00:08:37,879 --> 00:08:39,559 Uh, and so you've been around it pretty much your whole life is It's 139 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,440 just sort of like what the family does like has that been a big part 140 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,279 of your development coming from that type of background, Yeah, most definitely. 141 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:50,519 Man, coming from from a background like that, able being you know, 142 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,519 in the gym with me all the time, having that experience, you know, 143 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,679 it just it just helps out so much more. You know, my 144 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,720 father in my corner, and you know, it's it helps a lot. 145 00:09:00,799 --> 00:09:03,679 Like you said, in my family, I feel like we're all very calm, 146 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,799 We're all very humble, and that helped me stay humble. That helped 147 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,759 me keep my feet on the ground and just keep working hard, man, 148 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,679 just by biting down and working hard every day. Well, I appreciate that, 149 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,320 Jeseus. And I'll tell you when people heard, they were excited about 150 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:22,879 Charlo and Canello and I got a lot of reaction when they heard that the 151 00:09:22,879 --> 00:09:26,200 co feature was going to be Hazeus Ramos taking on ericson Lubin. So I 152 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,480 think a lot of people are excited for this fight. I wish you the 153 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,440 best of luck in the fight, and I thank you very much for doing 154 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,519 this with me today. Thank you. I appreciate you times been good luck. 155 00:09:35,159 --> 00:09:39,399 Well. I'm joined today on the podcast by the junior middleweight contender Ericson 156 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,200 Lubin Ericson, thank you very much for doing this. How have you been 157 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:46,879 You're getting ready for a big fight on the Canello undercard against Charlo. I'm 158 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:50,120 good, man, I'm good. Training can has been great. I feel 159 00:09:50,159 --> 00:09:54,759 good. Ready about two more weeks. I'm glad to hear that. So, 160 00:09:54,879 --> 00:09:58,279 just to let folks know, you're fighting the young contender Hajeseus Ramos and 161 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,519 the co feature Big Spot on September thirtieth on Showtime pay per view at the 162 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:05,600 Team Mobile Arena. And I have to ask you when when? Uh, 163 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:09,399 you know, people were very excited when they heard about Charlot fighting against Canelo, 164 00:10:09,759 --> 00:10:13,639 and then they came the announcement of the undercard fights, and when they 165 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,879 when? I when I heard from different boxing fans and even other people in 166 00:10:16,919 --> 00:10:20,039 the business, and and the co future was announced that it's going to be 167 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,120 Eric Sanlubin against Hazews Ramos. I think the universal reaction was, Wow, 168 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:26,919 that's a that's a pretty good fight. That's a really good fight. What's 169 00:10:26,919 --> 00:10:28,840 your take on, like, how good a fight that is? I mean, 170 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,279 you you follow boxing, that's a good fight. Yeah, it's a 171 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,080 great fight. It's a great fight. It's a fight I asked for. 172 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,919 I'm sure he probably asked what I heard him say something about him ask and 173 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:46,879 put his fight a fight before he even fought Joey Spencer. I think he's 174 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,720 a he's a he's a good fighter. He comes to fight another South pause 175 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:54,639 with the South povers, the South Paul matchup, and it's gonna be fun. 176 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,559 What was it about hazews Ramos that made you think of all the different 177 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,000 guys in the weight class, that was somebody that you'd like to fight. 178 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,399 I felt like he was the best available. You know. The guys I 179 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,840 wanted to fight were like Sebastian Fandor. I obviously want my rematch with him. 180 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,000 I want my rematch with Charlow, you know, and those fights wanted 181 00:11:16,039 --> 00:11:18,919 available. Ask for Tim Zoo and he's fighting Brian Mendoza, and he had 182 00:11:20,159 --> 00:11:22,720 other plans. So I said, give me the next, you know, 183 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:31,279 best thing, and that's not Brian Mendoza was so when he was doing some 184 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,360 of his media discussions and talking in different interviews and things like that, and 185 00:11:35,399 --> 00:11:37,879 I talked to him also. One of the things that he had said with 186 00:11:37,919 --> 00:11:41,159 a lot of respect towards you, but he said a win for me against 187 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,039 Eric Sanlubin means that I'm ready for a title shot, and that's a huge 188 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:48,679 statement. And I wonder from your perspective, what is a win against Hazers 189 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,759 Ramos, who's the younger, up and coming guy, where you're the more 190 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,440 established veteran. What is a win over that that over Haze's Ramos? What 191 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:03,720 does it say for you? It's solidifies that, you know, top top 192 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:09,919 three, you know, top three guys in the division, or even top 193 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,960 two in the division. You know, I feel like he's a he's a 194 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,879 he's a great young fighter, and I don't feel like, you know, 195 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:22,480 he's beating Bryan and those are already He's the WBC champion. So I feel 196 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:26,559 like a win over Hayes's Ramos is uh, it's pretty big. It's uh. 197 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:31,039 It shows that you know that I'm still here, still one of the 198 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,720 top guys, and I deserve a title shot. Well, I said, 199 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,240 you know you're the You're the more veteran fighter in the fight. He's twenty 200 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,120 two years old, but it's not like you're an old man. You're only 201 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,039 twenty seven years old. For a lot of guys, they just be coming 202 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,919 into their best. You know you've already had, you know, a number 203 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,440 of fights against a lot of name guys and some good wins, and I 204 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,360 looked at your record just to refresh myself before we were getting ready to do 205 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:56,039 the interview. Listen, you got knockout wins against Jason Rozzario, who was 206 00:12:56,039 --> 00:12:58,039 a former unified champion. You haven't knocked out win against eh Smith, who 207 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,279 was a former champion and a fighter who was in the top of the weight 208 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:05,159 class for a very long time. You have a good win over the Olympian 209 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:07,480 Terrell Gachet, who fought for a world title. Even in your last fight. 210 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,759 Now, most people wouldn't say Luis Arius as a super top contender, 211 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,519 but you were the first guy to ever stop him, and Lewis Arius is 212 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:18,240 known for being a real solid, tough guy. For some reason, people 213 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,320 just seem to remember your two losses, which was a fight of the Year 214 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:26,039 candidate against fandor that you mentioned him, which was a super close fight. 215 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:28,000 And you know, you got caught by the best guy in the division when 216 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,360 you were a very young fighter against Charlot. So how do you change sort 217 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,159 of the the take that people have on ericson Luban that you know you're about 218 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:39,960 more than just a couple of longs's sleep on Me, Sleep on Me? 219 00:13:41,039 --> 00:13:43,720 And the way I changed that September thirtieth, you know, with a statement 220 00:13:43,799 --> 00:13:48,000 win against zus Ramos. You know, a statement win is on a very 221 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:54,519 huge stage. It's a you know, Canelo versus Charlotte's on a pay per 222 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,799 view comin event. So the way I changed changed your minds is going in 223 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,120 there and being at my best and coming out with a with a statement victory, 224 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:07,399 a convinction win. Do you think that that attitude that a lot of 225 00:14:07,399 --> 00:14:11,639 people have is sort of unfair? Like it seems to me like, you 226 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,720 know, a guy that's that's willing to fight everybody, that's got some very 227 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:18,000 good wins, that's got some tough losses, but one was super close fight 228 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,200 of the year, Like, is it a kind of an unfair way that 229 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,120 they position you in some fashion? I don't think of it too much. 230 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,600 I don't think of it too much. I just you know, guys like 231 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:33,039 myself, they'll they'll appreciate me more when I'm retired. You know, they'll 232 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:37,080 appreciate me more when I'm retired. And you know, I feel like I 233 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:43,080 feel like I'm always I've always been willing to fight the best in the division. 234 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:48,360 I've always been willing to fight the best guys. So I don't know, 235 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,320 I don't really think of it too much. I don't really care about 236 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,320 it, Okay, fair enough. I remember thinking at the time, by 237 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,080 the way, and I covered that fight that you had with Charlotte in twenty 238 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,240 seventeen, and I remember Eric Sanlubin, I had you as my prospect of 239 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,440 the year back in the day, and I thought you were just one of 240 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,200 the best young guys I've seen in a long time. And when you when 241 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,720 you got that fight with Charlot, I have to admit I did think maybe 242 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,799 you'd bit off a little more than you get you at that moment, just 243 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,120 because of the lack of experience, and obviously it didn't go your way the 244 00:15:16,159 --> 00:15:18,639 way that it ended. When you look back on it, did you sort 245 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:20,679 of think, you know what, maybe I did take that a little bit 246 00:15:20,679 --> 00:15:24,039 too quick and I would have been better served with a couple more fights of 247 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:26,720 say apprenticeship and sort of, you know, work my way into a championship 248 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,840 fight, or you know, or are you just too young and hungry and 249 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,639 you know, weren't thinking like that During the time, I was just feeling 250 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,360 like, man, I'm just you know, this is my time to shine. 251 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:41,480 You know, they put that fight in front of me. But now 252 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:43,080 I think about it, maybe maybe it was a little bit too early, 253 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,559 And I feel like when I when I look at Hazu Stramos and I look 254 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,360 at what's going on and how the media is taking the fight, I kind 255 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:56,399 of feel the same way. Like I feel like everybody's you know, you 256 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,039 know, they're doing the same things they were. They were saying about me. 257 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:03,440 They're like, you know, he's young, and he's gonna do this, 258 00:16:03,679 --> 00:16:07,279 he's gonna do that, And you know, I kind of sit back 259 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:11,159 and I laughed at it because you know, it's like it's the same shit 260 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,039 I was going through. You know, it's the same shit. I see 261 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:15,960 a smiling about it too. It's sort of like the shoes like the shoes 262 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,279 on the other foot now in a way, Yeah, yeah, it's I 263 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:23,960 don't know, man, I just I'm enjoying this though. I'm I'm enjoying 264 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,720 this whole thing. I get the proved out is wrong. You know, 265 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,960 they got me as the B side. I'm the underdog, and I'm just 266 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,919 embracing it. I'm embracing it because I know I'm coming out there and you 267 00:16:36,919 --> 00:16:41,679 know, with my experience, my skill set, this has been a great 268 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,879 training camp for myself. You know, I just bought ten weeks ago, 269 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,840 so you know, me being active, it was one thing I've all I've 270 00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:52,759 asked for for the past couple of years. You know, I've been fighting 271 00:16:52,919 --> 00:16:56,279 just once a year since twenty twenty, and now they got me, you 272 00:16:56,279 --> 00:17:00,919 know, right back. So I always told them this, this brings the 273 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,720 best out of me, and it has shown September thirtieth, So a lot 274 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,079 of people even a year later, year and a half later, I guess 275 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:08,440 at this point, they still talk about the fight. Yeah, with Fendor, 276 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:11,480 it was a very close fight. Uh you know, you know, 277 00:17:11,559 --> 00:17:15,880 you both were on the deck it got stopped. A lot of people thought 278 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,000 it was the fight of the year. Uh. You know, Kevin Cunningham, 279 00:17:18,039 --> 00:17:22,720 your trainer, elected to stop that fight. Do you understand it was 280 00:17:22,759 --> 00:17:26,359 after the ninth round? Are you cool with why he stopped it? Did 281 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,880 you understand why he stopped it? I know you said you wanted to get 282 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,720 that he stopped it for sure. Yeah, I understand why he stopped. 283 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:33,799 You know, he's just looking out for me. You know, Kevin Cunningham, 284 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,599 he's a he's competitive as well, and that's why we fished so well 285 00:17:38,759 --> 00:17:42,960 because he's he's very competitive. And you know, it's a fight. I 286 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,160 was winning. If you look at the score cards, I was up on 287 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:51,279 all three score cards, winning by I think two rounds, and you know 288 00:17:51,319 --> 00:17:55,880 it's boxing. Though it's boxing. My face didn't react well. I had 289 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,920 a I had a by ac joint was was messed up on my shoulder, 290 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,559 and I understand why he stopped it, but you know those up to me, 291 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,319 I was gonna keep fighting. Well, while you're answering that question, 292 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,680 I did look at the scores. You in fact were ahead eighty four eighty 293 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,880 five to eighty four on two scorecards, and the third scorecard actually was even 294 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:22,079 at eighty five eighty five, so it was close. And like you said, 295 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,519 you know, you understand what happened with your trainer. I wonder is 296 00:18:23,519 --> 00:18:27,319 there is there any kind of like silver lining to know that a big party 297 00:18:27,319 --> 00:18:30,920 of reputation is that Arison Luban makes great fights and that was a fight of 298 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,319 the Year candidate. And you know, I find that as as time passes, 299 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,799 the fogginess of like who actually won the fight sometimes goes away. The 300 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:42,359 fans remember it was a great fight. I'll ask a fan, hey, 301 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,920 how about that Mickey Ward Artaro Gotti fight, And they're like, oh, 302 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,759 those are great fights. They don't really remember who won the fight. They 303 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:51,759 just know that they thought it was an awesome fight. That seems to be 304 00:18:51,799 --> 00:18:55,279 the kind of the way that that a fight like Fondor will be remembered in 305 00:18:55,279 --> 00:19:02,240 the future. Okay, well, hey, I see, but it was 306 00:19:02,279 --> 00:19:04,680 a great fight. A he's a good fighter. He's a great fighter too 307 00:19:04,759 --> 00:19:07,599 all. I feel like the fight with him and by him and Doza, 308 00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:11,759 he's winning that whole fight. Like people writing him off for a little bit, 309 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,480 I don't think they should. So, now that you know I'm gonna 310 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,480 now that you got this fight with Jesus coming up, I'm curious, just 311 00:19:18,759 --> 00:19:25,440 briefly, how do you expect the fight to go. I'm expecting to just 312 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,079 follow the game plan and being my best and coming out with the win. 313 00:19:29,079 --> 00:19:32,319 That's it. Coming out with the win. However, got to get it 314 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,160 understood that I would just wrap up with this. I gotta ask you about 315 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,720 the main event. Look, Charlot beat you. He became undisputed at one 316 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:41,680 hundred and fifty four pounds, but he's stepping up two weight classes to fight 317 00:19:41,759 --> 00:19:45,880 Canelo Alvers, who's the undisputed champion in his weight class at super middleweight. 318 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:48,359 So I wonder, how do you think that the main event goes and what 319 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,920 happens and how close are you watching? Because you did mention that at some 320 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,640 time in the future you would like to have a rematch with Charlo. Absolutely, 321 00:19:56,799 --> 00:20:00,759 I feel like I feel like people are sleeping on Charlo. He's always 322 00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:03,480 alive dog. You know, he has a he has a great i Q. 323 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,279 He has a bet IQ than what they what they think, you know. 324 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,759 I just feel like if the if the old Canelo you know, is 325 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,400 back in that ring, then maybe a little bit more than what he can 326 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,599 handle. But what what Charlo can handle? But I feel like he still 327 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,119 has a shot. Do you ask me? All right? Ericson, thank 328 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,079 you very much. I guess September thirtieth, it's hammertime, right, yes, 329 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,680 sir? All right, man, I appreciate your time, and I 330 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,000 wish you're good luck in to fight and I look forward to seeing you in 331 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,240 Las Vegas. Appreciate it, all right, So there you go. That's 332 00:20:40,279 --> 00:20:42,359 the matchup for the cod feature fight that will be taking place on the undercard 333 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:48,880 of Canelo Charlo Las Vegas on September thirty. What will happen between Ramos and 334 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,759 Luban. You've got an excellent preview there from Dan again. Thank you for 335 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,839 finding this podcast. Make sure you're following or subscribing to this podcast feed the 336 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,440 Big Fight We can podcast feed we would get more great content like this. 337 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,720 We preview going into the weekend with the Big Fight Weekend Preview. We come 338 00:21:03,759 --> 00:21:08,079 off the weekend with the Fight Freaks Unite Recap, but you also get different 339 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,240 content like these interviews on the podcast feed. 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