WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:06.679
Welcome to Spacing Out with Phoebe and
Jason this week covering Battlestar Galactica Season four,

2
00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:16.800
episode three, The Ties That Bind. Welcome back. I'm Baby and

3
00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:21.600
I'm Jason, and this is spacing
Out where today we will be discussing Battlestar

4
00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:24.760
Galactica. If you are new to
the show, we will have a spoiler

5
00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:28.600
section at the end of the podcast
where we are free to discuss future events.

6
00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:33.200
Otherwise, we won't be spoiling anything
past this episode, which is Battlestar

7
00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:38.159
Galactica Season four, episode three,
The Ties That Bind. This aired on

8
00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:42.039
April eighteenth, two thousand and eight, Written by Michael Taylor, directed by

9
00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:46.640
Michael Nankin. The survivor count in
this episode is thirty nine thousand, six

10
00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:50.479
hundred and seventy six people, which
did not change from last week, but

11
00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:57.320
there's definitely a minus one yeah.
In this episode, more bloodshed occurs in

12
00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:03.000
what becomes a Silen Civil War or
the Demetrius. The crew's patient swears thin

13
00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:07.239
with starbuck Leo, Dama joins the
Puma twelve and goes up against President Roslin,

14
00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:11.719
and Callie discovers the truth about her
husband and the other Cylons then Tory

15
00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.879
kills Callie, making it look like
a suicide. I'm confused about that,

16
00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:21.040
about how it makes it look like
a suicide. Can't you tell who who

17
00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:23.879
pushed the button or did she push
the button before she ran out or something.

18
00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:30.280
I believe it's because she took her
husband's keys and ran in there,

19
00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:34.640
so it was his keys that launched
it. Oh interesting, Okay, pretty

20
00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:42.120
clever. Five check. Did we
like the episode overall? How does it

21
00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:48.280
stand the test of time? What
do you feel overall this episode? I

22
00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:57.120
liked it. Did you like the
ending the whole? What? No,

23
00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:00.159
it's a good episode, but yeah, the I didn't really make me like

24
00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:05.159
it a lot too, I'm awful. Yeah. Well, the ending with

25
00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.560
Tory and Calli is like, it
makes it a really memorable episode. I

26
00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:12.319
think, yeah, because I can
easily forget, like I don't even remember

27
00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:15.120
what happened last week. I feel
like just a bunch of talking. Yeah

28
00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:17.439
yeah, but now I remember,
like, oh yeah, this is the

29
00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:21.439
one where Tory takes out Callie.
Um. Yeah, I think it was

30
00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:23.960
a good episode. I like it
was kind of a little bit of everything.

31
00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:27.719
We got some of the Demetrius story, we got some Cylon story,

32
00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:34.560
we got some politicking, and we
got some some csiloning on Galactica somewhat some

33
00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:39.439
cilon Yeah, some final final three
I guess since anders isn't there. Yeah,

34
00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:43.719
Andrews is busy for his wife.
And we got some Doc Coddle.

35
00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:50.280
Oh yeah, so so yeah,
good episode. Don't skip it. Trivia

36
00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:54.000
time? What facts could we uncover
for the Ties that find? What do

37
00:02:54.000 --> 00:03:00.000
you thought for trivia? Oh?
This episode's title the ties that binds a

38
00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:05.879
reference to a Christian him Blessed be
the ties that binds a Protestant hymn that

39
00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.520
celebrates the unity that comes from love. Why that's the title of the episode.

40
00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:13.360
I don't know. I don't either. Centrist scene wasn't even like any

41
00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:17.319
Baltar storylines that was like messing around
with religious themes. Well, maybe it

42
00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:24.599
was like about the Cylons going to
civil war and the conflicts against each other,

43
00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:31.560
Like you had conflicts against Starbuck and
the crew and the President versus Leodama,

44
00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:37.120
yet they're like altogether in their struggles. Maybe that's what it is.

45
00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:44.319
The weapons locker where the final four
Cylons members secretly meets Marked one seven one

46
00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:47.159
D, which is the registry number
of the starship Enterprise on the Next Generation

47
00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:54.520
Nerds. When the Cylon fleet is
ambushed by the Cavils, the Orion constellation

48
00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:59.199
can be seen in the background stars. Whether it's intentional or not as unknown,

49
00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:02.520
but it might indicate that they're getting
closer to the Soul system that's where

50
00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:06.879
we live. Darbuck has the Aurora
figure that she gave to a Dama in

51
00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:11.280
Maelstrom, and a scene in which
he returned it to her was deleted from

52
00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:15.439
the previous episode six of one.
They're passing that little figure around, and

53
00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:19.120
then another deleted scene shows Chief Terrell
strangling Callie to death in her bed.

54
00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:25.519
It's unclear whether this was a vision
of Galen's or Callie's, or if it

55
00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:29.160
was like an alternate death scene that
they shot for Callie. They just wanted

56
00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:31.759
to see her suffer a little bit
differently. It's probably part of those visions

57
00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:36.000
she was having of him, like
cutting his finger and licking her in bed.

58
00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:42.480
Oh yeah, yeah, that's all
I got for trivia for this episode

59
00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:47.839
Deep Space Dive. Let's break down
some of our thoughts on the episode.

60
00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:53.279
You can share your thoughts with us
through email, Facebook, or Twitter.

61
00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:58.759
We may use your comments on an
upcoming episode found us a little confused about

62
00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:06.360
what we're in the scene with Leadama
and President Roslin. She seemed bothered that

63
00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:12.680
he knew about her plans to appoint
judges or something. I didn't get it.

64
00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:17.600
Also, like Leadonna had been trying
to meet with her and she wasn't

65
00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:20.720
taking his meetings or anything, and
she kind of shut him down in that

66
00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:27.560
core meeting. So he brought up
this classified document that Tom's Eric had slipped

67
00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:30.319
him. I was like, Hey, you're trying to get more power in

68
00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:34.360
the judicial system, and she's like, actually, that's just the rough draft

69
00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:38.600
that I'm working on, but I
do want to bring it up and put

70
00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:42.639
it to the floor. So like
he pressured her to move forward with an

71
00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.519
unfinished plan. Oh yeah, kind
of okay. Oh. I didn't get

72
00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.720
the tension. I was just confused. It was a confusing room. There

73
00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:54.800
was a lot of people yelling.
Like the guy he interrupted seemed like he

74
00:05:54.920 --> 00:06:00.639
had a legitimate issue to this uss. He's like, my people are starving.

75
00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:02.600
He's like, do you yield the
floor? And he's like, sure,

76
00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:08.000
fuck it, we'll starve some more. We'll just be hungry or next

77
00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:12.040
time it's my turn. No,
it was about her trying to put Lee

78
00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:15.519
in his place. He's used to
be in the top top dog, and

79
00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.839
she makes it very clear that he's
a junior representative and does not speak for

80
00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:25.480
her. Yeah. I like the
I like do we get to see some

81
00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:29.120
of the legal system on display,
even if it was a little confusing.

82
00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:32.120
I like exploring that aspect of the
show. I'm sure it's a lot of

83
00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:35.600
people probably find it kind of dry
and not that interesting, but it'd be

84
00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:40.199
fun. I'd like to know just
more about how things in the fleet work.

85
00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:44.399
That's generally what I'm interested in.
Yeah, they don't show too much

86
00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:48.120
of that. They're always on Galactica
too, so it was a nice change

87
00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:51.160
of pace to be in a different
ship. It didn't look like a like

88
00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:56.319
an airplane like it normally does.
Though, It's like it caught fatter the

89
00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:00.480
ship itself, you know. Yeah, it's because normally I wouldn't I see

90
00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:01.920
it. I feel like it looks
like an airplane, but this time it

91
00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:05.160
didn't look like an airplane. Just
part of it kind of did, the

92
00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:10.480
window parts. Then it got thick. It was interesting to see their political

93
00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:13.319
shiite. What else do you want
to talk about? I want to talk

94
00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:17.360
about how number six had to say
please, Yeah, they've given the Centurions

95
00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:20.879
free will and now she can't just
give demands. That was pretty good.

96
00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:24.839
And then they like zoomed in and
they kind of looked back at her like,

97
00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:31.000
bitch, butter, put some respect
on my name. Like someone online

98
00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:36.720
pointed out that the Centurions, now
that they've had that inhibitor removed, like

99
00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:41.360
they're all a lot more shiny and
like glossy, like they care more about

100
00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:44.920
how they look or something. They
oiled themselves up. Yeah, Usually they're

101
00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:47.639
all like kind of dull, dingy
and banged up, and those guys were

102
00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:51.720
like shin of fresh coat of wax
on them. That's interesting. They did

103
00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:57.319
look a little different. It was
interesting that they got lured into a trap

104
00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:01.600
too. I don't know where they
were going. They were going to wherever

105
00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:07.120
they had to go to get Dianna
unboxed. Oh so Cavill's like, hey,

106
00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:11.399
meet us here, and then the
resurrecrection ship didn't jump with them,

107
00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:15.439
and one of the is it,
what's boomer? She's a four, she's

108
00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:20.439
an eight, she's an eight.
Her turncoat felt real bad because it seems

109
00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:24.399
like she has some like moral like
dilemma with doing that, yeah, because

110
00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:28.120
that's taking out all the other number
eights. We won't be all of them,

111
00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:33.000
but well they won't resurrect. Yeah, and it's like this final death

112
00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:37.759
that sucks. I wonder if the
final four that were on Galactica, if

113
00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:43.799
they have their own resurrection ships somewhere, because nobody knows who they are,

114
00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:48.399
so who's in charge of their resurrection
ship if they have one? We can

115
00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:52.120
put a pin in that for a
spoiler section. Okay, cool, we'll

116
00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:56.799
talk about did you believe Tory wanted
a fuck Chief in the in the bar?

117
00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:01.879
Yeah, well we saw her see
Allie's reflection, so it's like she

118
00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:07.399
saw Callie walk in. That's when
she starts like touching Chief's elbow rights to

119
00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:13.320
make it less suspicious maybe or more
suspicious, more suspicious she wanted to kill

120
00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:18.039
Callie. I don't get it.
Tori is just embracing these new feelings and

121
00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:22.480
who she is and kind of I
don't want to call her like the villain,

122
00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:28.279
but she's kind of moving into that
role and inviting the chaos. Okay,

123
00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:31.399
she's like liberated, like she knew
she was fucking with that relationship in

124
00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:37.360
that moment that's why she asked her
you and callie happy. Okay, Well,

125
00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:43.279
Tori's interesting for sure. I think
her character has definitely developed some nuance

126
00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:46.519
to it. Yeah. I think
she's the most interesting of the cylons right

127
00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:50.159
now, just because she is embracing
it in a way. Yeah, like

128
00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:56.639
she's moving and shaping things and learning
about herself and forming new beliefs, hooking

129
00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:01.480
up with Gaius, fucking with Chief
it's interesting. And then killing Cally like

130
00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:05.320
that was crazy. Yeah, but
I think it had to be done because

131
00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:09.039
she was gonna like tell on everyone. Well, no, she wasn't.

132
00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:13.960
She was gonna murder, suicide herself
and her son. Oh yeah, but

133
00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.639
le Okay, so I guess so, like that's a whole thing of like

134
00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:20.799
maybe you could chalk it up to
the drugs she was taking, but like

135
00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:24.919
it's like all of her dumb decisions
of like I'm not gonna tell anyone,

136
00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:30.480
I'm just gonna run straight to this
airlock airlock, And yeah, she hasn't

137
00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:33.639
been making the best decisions. Her
throwing up at the bar was the funniest

138
00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:41.399
thing. She throwed up on her
baby probably, like that's awful. Usually

139
00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.159
it's the other way around where your
toddler, your baby throws up on you,

140
00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:48.399
But no, this mommy's special.
She's gonna throw up on her baby

141
00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:54.639
at a bar. She's not making
any sense, and I think um Doc

142
00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.360
Coddle has like his suspicions about her, like in her state of mind.

143
00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:03.039
Yeah, so that probably made it
really easy for Tory to cover up what

144
00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:07.480
she did. Yeah, she's having
trouble sleeping. She's trying to get medicated

145
00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:11.200
for that. And she said she
was taking antidepressants. Yeah, and he

146
00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:16.200
said he's going to open an opium
den so she can take a nap.

147
00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.480
And it's like he kind of understand, like you're not in a great shape,

148
00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:24.480
but he's also like against chief when
he's like when she tells him like

149
00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.799
I think he's having an affair or
whatever, and he's like is he hitting

150
00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:33.120
you? Like because he doesn't forget
that she got the ship beat out of

151
00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:37.360
him once. Yeah, and she
even mentions it like what kind of loser

152
00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:41.759
marries the guy that fucked her up? Which I don't think we should victim

153
00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:45.799
blame, like it's not Callie's fault, but it just sucks, Like her

154
00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:50.240
situation is just terrible. Yeah,
And I always feel like once Callie and

155
00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:54.799
Chief get together, we don't see
like a lot of the good part of

156
00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:58.279
their relationship, right, which I'm
sure is there. It's just like whenever

157
00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:03.799
they choose to focus on their relationship
is when they're having problems rights all the

158
00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:07.559
time. Even on New Caprica,
they were always like upset at each other.

159
00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.519
Yeah, which sucks because I feel
like a lot of fans like just

160
00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:16.919
found her like a really annoying character. Okay, I'm not the only one.

161
00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:22.240
Like That's how a lot of people
felt about her, And unfortunately,

162
00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:28.279
I think a lot of people were
happy to see this episode. That's awful,

163
00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:33.000
it is, but I think it's
a result of the way they being

164
00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.879
written and yeah, not getting to
see other aspects of her. Yeah,

165
00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.320
she's just like a nagging wife.
Yeah, what can you tell me about

166
00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:43.080
Callie except for that, like what
her job is and that she's a wife

167
00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:48.519
and mother and she's barely doing that. Like when we see her, she's

168
00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:52.159
like just yelling at Chief all the
time, Like, and don't forget to

169
00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:58.000
tell him that he's allergic to the
algae. That's all we have is algae.

170
00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:01.440
Pack him a lunch then, girl. But it would suck because basically,

171
00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:05.480
It's like in this episode we kind
of see more of her, like

172
00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.960
dealing with being alone a lot,
almost like a single parent. She can't

173
00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:16.320
rely on the chief for any like
being a steady support system for her,

174
00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:20.879
and so what does she have.
She's just all by herself with her kid.

175
00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:24.279
And when she finds out that the
only person that she could put her

176
00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:31.440
life and trust of is a fucking
cylon, she like breaks. That's sucks.

177
00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:35.519
Ye. And I was surprised to
see Tori follow her but not her

178
00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.840
husband into the airlock. He was
unconscious. Oh I didn't see that part.

179
00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:43.320
She took him out with that wrench. Oh yeah she did. She

180
00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.159
beat the shit out of him.
Okay, yeah, I remember now.

181
00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:50.919
And Tori's the one that saw the
panel removed outside the weapons locker. So

182
00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.960
yeah, I think Tory puts it
together. She's so smart and you know,

183
00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.799
you can seeing that Kelli was like
going to kill herself and her son

184
00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:03.240
in a certain way, Tory saved
the son's life. She did. She

185
00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:07.519
also had the opportunity to save both
of them and chose to kill Callie.

186
00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:11.200
I would have killed Callie because she
knew too much talk. Yeah, I

187
00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:16.039
know it wasn't random that you Yeah, also that the meeting they had in

188
00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.480
the weapons locker, all they talked
about was like, hey, you guys

189
00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:22.679
can't be meeting in public. We
can't have scenes like that. Okay,

190
00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.159
that's all I have to say.
By Well, no, it's cut short

191
00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:30.000
by that bump in the night,
that bump in the walls. There was

192
00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:35.039
like nothing of substance in that meeting. Can't be walking around like skin jobs.

193
00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:37.679
If ty wouldn't have showed up,
it would have just looked like a

194
00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:43.440
rendezvous between two lovers. But when
he showed up, he threw the wrench

195
00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:46.440
in the whole plan. She's like, oh my gosh, he's having a

196
00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:52.080
three way affair. That burry man. I know what Colonel Tye looks like

197
00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:56.399
in a tank top, Okay,
and it's not cute. It's a lot

198
00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:00.480
of hair. Do you want to
talk about Starbuck and her crew? Sure,

199
00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:07.000
her crew hates her, Yep.
I don't think anyone except for Andrew's

200
00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:11.000
volunteered for that mission. I guess
Halo Halo wanted to go. Yeah,

201
00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:13.960
and Halo's kind of standing up for
her, but he's also like a damnit

202
00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:18.799
Starbuck. She's not making an easy
for him. No. And then the

203
00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:24.200
weirdest part was when she is in
her bunk or I don't know if it

204
00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:30.679
shared quarters because there was multiple little
beds or because it was like a little

205
00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:33.519
bed in a nook and she was
painting that nook. I would assume that,

206
00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:37.279
like all these ships would have like
a captain's quarters. Yeah, even

207
00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:41.840
the sewage ship. Who knows.
But the fact that she had this really

208
00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:48.960
bothered me. She had like three
to five just open paint cans on a

209
00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:54.559
mattress, no tarp, just mess. She's such a mess. And I

210
00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:58.559
don't know what she's painting exactly.
Maybe it was like her vision of Earth.

211
00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:03.840
Yeah, I think she's painting for
the like the star cluster that she's

212
00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:07.480
looking for. Yeah, well,
it's it's like over the bed, girl,

213
00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:12.320
you're gonna drip paint all over your
sheets, and paint's not comfortable.

214
00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:22.480
After it dries, it's plastic.
It's gonna be really stiff. Speak Anders

215
00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:26.919
comes in and he's like, you're
messing up this whole mission, and she's

216
00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:33.720
like, why don't you frack me
right now. That's like after she says

217
00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:37.480
one of the meanest things to him
that she married him because it was easy.

218
00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:40.600
Yeah, and he was pathetic enough
to go along with it. But

219
00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:45.320
now and he's still kind of pathetic
because he goes along with her like wants

220
00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:49.200
and needs. Anyway, I think
he's also like confused because he's a cylon

221
00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:55.639
And it's interesting to see them interacting
now that he knows. And after they're

222
00:16:55.720 --> 00:17:00.039
done, she even mentions like,
that was weird, feel like you like

223
00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.839
I was here and that was that
must be insulting. I wouldn't feel good

224
00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:10.039
if someone's like I was like off
in another place, like I was watching

225
00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:14.960
us do it instead of being present
with this situation. Also, your spine

226
00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:22.119
was glowing? What was up with
that? I'm telling you they shouldn't have

227
00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:26.519
included that in that first episode.
But yeah, I feel like Starbucks is

228
00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:32.079
really taking advantage of Wanders. Yeah, he kind of seems like a dog

229
00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:36.240
that's not going to leave her side. He's too loyal. She's very indifferent

230
00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:38.400
to him most of the time.
Yeah, it's sad. It makes me

231
00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:44.039
not like her in certain situations because
she's just using him and then like he's

232
00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:48.519
in that ship full of people that
like can see this relationship, Like she's

233
00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:51.759
not giving him the time of day. Yeah, treating him like a subordinate.

234
00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:55.039
I mean he is a subordinate though, he's just a nugget. I

235
00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:59.039
don't know why he signed up for
this mission because he didn't want to watch

236
00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:03.039
her leave again, that's what it's
cute, Okay, Yeah, the poor

237
00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:06.559
Hoders. It just makes me feel
bad for him. What do you think

238
00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:11.359
um Adama told Chief about Callie?
He had to break the news, like

239
00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.160
he was the person who has to
tell him. How did they find out?

240
00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.759
Like it would have taken forever to
find out, like Chief would have

241
00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:22.759
had to report, Like I haven't
seen Callie in a while. She beat

242
00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:26.079
the shit out of me. I
don't know why or when the airlock goes

243
00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:32.359
that does that noise trigger somebody like
I would say, like the system probably

244
00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:36.079
notified that, like the airlock was
used, um, and it was his

245
00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:38.599
key that used it, so they
went to check on him. Um.

246
00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:44.640
I don't I don't remember exactly what
happens with like what Tori does next.

247
00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:48.359
Well, you're not gonna spoiler it, yeah, and I can't spoil.

248
00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:52.359
I don't remember the details. But
I'm just thinking out loud that like maybe

249
00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:56.599
she left the kid right there,
oh, the baby outside to make it

250
00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:00.759
look like Callie left him right outside
the door. Yeah, and take kid

251
00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:04.400
with me. Also, like Kelly's
last decision to hand the child through the

252
00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:08.200
Cylon, it was just the last
bad decision and the string of bad decisions.

253
00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:12.119
Yeah, I was really surprised when
she did it. And Tori's strong

254
00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:17.559
too. She's got that cylon strength. Did they unlock that as they found

255
00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:21.279
out? It must have or else
She's just been really strong her whole life.

256
00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:25.039
I've never thought about she's like not
having to be like an aid to

257
00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:29.559
the president, which she hasn't been
doing her job lately, not that I've

258
00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:32.440
seen. Yeah, I don't know. Does she go on a ship?

259
00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:37.039
Is there like a freight ship or
like a fairy ship that goes from the

260
00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:41.480
political ship to the Galactica like every
hour so she can like cop on and

261
00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:47.200
come in and get her drinks and
hang out in the evening and then go

262
00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:52.160
home. Where does she live on
Galactic Yeah? She must live on Galactica.

263
00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:55.640
I mean she's always there. Is
there, She's with Baltars, she's

264
00:19:55.799 --> 00:20:00.759
meeting with the other Cylons. The
President's living on Galactica. I don't know.

265
00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:06.119
We never see her quarters. We've
seen almost everybody else's quarters except hers,

266
00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:11.480
because Anders lives with the Nuggets and
Colonel Tie has his own area that

267
00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:15.200
he used to share with Ellen,
and now he's alone. Chief. We've

268
00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:18.680
obviously just seen him get the shit
beat out of in his own quarters.

269
00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.359
Yep. And who else is there? Is that them? Yeah? I

270
00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:27.039
mean Adama obviously, as was Big
Quarters. Yeah, Adama. I wonder

271
00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:32.319
where Leah Dama's living now. He
moved, because that's the whole movie.

272
00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:36.400
The whole last episode was about him
moving. He packed up, and I

273
00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:38.799
don't know he's living somewhere. It
was nice to see Tom's Eric again.

274
00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:45.000
Yeah. And he's always working angles. Yeah, he's always got something going

275
00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.559
and his job is to bang that
gavel order. He pained that thing so

276
00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:52.960
much, so many times and it
didn't matter. Yeah, anything else we

277
00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:56.960
need to cover. I'm good.
I think we got it all all right.

278
00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:04.960
Then let's move on astral Queen,
who was the standout character in the

279
00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:11.279
episode. Do you have anybody in
mind for astral Queenna? Do? Tori?

280
00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:15.920
I was wondering if you're going to
do that. She's strong, independent,

281
00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:22.119
she's stirring the pot, she's looking
good. Yeah, are you going

282
00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:26.960
to give it to Tori does seem
like she's enjoying herself more than we've seen

283
00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:32.359
her before. I was thinking of
giving it to Doc Coddle, Oh you're

284
00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:37.079
Fraive's for his bedside manner. He
made her laugh probably the last time she

285
00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:41.000
left in her life, right.
I feel like that was the one moment

286
00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:44.759
in the episode where Kellie got to
feel sane um. But yeah, I

287
00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.559
like that he was both like kind
of tough on her, but also like

288
00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:55.759
was listening to her concerns and was
genuinely concerned that if she was getting abused

289
00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:57.160
or not. I think he was. He was really good in that scene.

290
00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:03.680
All right, So Tori and dot
Cole are the Astral Queens for episode

291
00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:07.160
three. That brings us to the
end the main part of the podcast.

292
00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:10.519
We will now move into the spoiler
section. If you don't want to be

293
00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:14.279
spoiled on anything to come in the
series, then get out. This is

294
00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:19.519
the time to leave. Next time
we will be covering the episode Escape Velocity.

295
00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:25.160
So Raague right, sounds exciting.
Yeah, it sounds like it has

296
00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:34.240
a lot of energy in this group. Brace for impact spoilers ahead. If

297
00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:37.920
you haven't seen the whole series,
now is the time to say goodbye.

298
00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:45.359
Remember you can contact us at spacing
outpot at gmail dot com, find us

299
00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.799
on Facebook and Twitter, share your
thoughts and be a part of the discussion.

300
00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:56.880
Spoilers In five four three two one
oh, this was the last appearance

301
00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:00.599
of Cali for obvious reasons of Silo. She's not coming back as a silent.

302
00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:06.720
I feel like we will see like
her in some archive footage flashbacks.

303
00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:10.680
The Chief Tyrrell process is this,
but that's her last episode. And then

304
00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:15.880
I mentioned in trivia that we saw
the Oriyan constellation, and as we move

305
00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:21.519
forward in the series, we start
to see other familiar constellations more frequently as

306
00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:25.160
we move closer to Earth. And
then you you were asking about the Final

307
00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:32.000
five resurrection stuff. Yeah, we're
your ship. So Cavill has a ship

308
00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:36.559
where they where they resurrect. If
I remember, I think they have like

309
00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:40.039
all five of them in one room
and there's just a Cavil. They're like

310
00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:44.279
managing that because no one else is
involved in that whole situation. Yeah,

311
00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:48.000
I think there was five of those
resurrection tanks. Kind of in my head,

312
00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:51.400
it looked like the sleeping pods in
Dullhouse. Do you remember that how

313
00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:55.680
they were all on the floor vaguely. We should watch that again. Yeah,

314
00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:59.799
later this season we will get to
see Ellen Tie wake up and she's

315
00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:03.240
just been hanging out with Cavill this
whole time. But when she wakes up,

316
00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:07.480
she has all of her memories back
of prior to be being put on

317
00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:11.240
Earth as Ellen. I any other
simon or other questions. Who is the

318
00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:17.799
civil war? I mean, does
anybody win a civil war? Yeah,

319
00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:22.160
there's winners and losers. You don't
remember, It's okay, I don't remember

320
00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:26.039
the details of how it plays out. But the Sixes, Eights and Leo

321
00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:32.480
Beans they kind of up allied with
the Galactica, so yeah, interesting,

322
00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:37.480
and the number threes they do get
unboxed, so yeah, I think next

323
00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:41.400
episode we'll see how that attack played
out. Okay, I'm excited. I

324
00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:45.640
don't remember. I mean, they
don't resurrect. Yeah, they don't all

325
00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.279
die. I'm sure did they all
jump at once? Or I wouldn't have

326
00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:52.079
sent my full force like to follow
them right away? Yeah, they really

327
00:24:52.079 --> 00:25:00.680
didn't. They trusted Cavil a lot. You must have been doing some really

328
00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:03.880
good acting there, because he made
it clearly he was not happy about the

329
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:10.039
decision. It's also interesting that all
those base ships have the hybrids on them

330
00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:12.880
that control all the functions, so
it's interesting the hybrids are like willing to

331
00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:17.000
fire on the other Cylon ships like
that. I don't think they care.

332
00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:22.640
I don't think the hybrids have the
same will that the cylons have, like

333
00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:29.200
even the Centurions now, which is
sad, but we'll see. I'm really

334
00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:33.599
interested to see Anders's journey into the
hybrid life, how he gets into the

335
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:38.839
fold, how they recruit him.
I don't know, biggy volunteers. I

336
00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:42.039
don't know. I don't know how
it works. I forgot when day he

337
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:47.039
just starts losing his air. He
decides to take a bath one day and

338
00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:51.400
never gets out of the tub.
Could you imagine what the bathtubs on the

339
00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:56.240
Galactica would look like? Very rustic
mettle. Yeah, all right, well

340
00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:00.640
that was the ties that bind.
Thanks for joining us. We'll be back

341
00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:03.880
next time. We talk about escape
velocity and stay out of those airlocks.

342
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:10.680
Yeah, and don't hand your babies
to cylons. So say we all thank

343
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:14.920
you for spacing out with Bob and
Jason. You can help us out by

344
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:19.240
subscribing and leaving a positive rating or
review. Next time we will cover Battlestar

345
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:26.480
Galactica season four, episode four,
Escape Velocity. We hope you will join

346
00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:27.599
us, so say we all

