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Joe Scalante live from Hollywood. If
by Hollywood you mean Burbank across the street

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from a Wiener Schnitzel that serves beer. This is two hours of the business,

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end of show business. We do
it every Sunday here on KiB eleven

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fifty on your AM dial. Sam
the engineer is with me. How are

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you, Sam? Sam? This
is a show business. Did you see

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any movies this week? I actually
got caught up on a movie that I've

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been dying to see for the last
I don't know, eight months or so,

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and that was Cocaine Bear. So
I feel like I've checked one off

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the list for me. I felt
very good about that. Well, all

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right, every American needs to see
Cocaine Bear, That's all I got to

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say. At least. Yeah,
yeah, Now that that movie I very

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quickly became fond of. And you're
uh, your microphones down is different because

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you made the awful mistake of testing
yourself for COVID. Yeah, hey,

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it happens. I have kids.
They sent letters home. I don't care

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how many kids you have. My
medical advice has never test yourself for COVID.

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And I am not licensed to practice
in California. Medicine of any kind.

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So don't take my advice. But
that's that's my advice. I was

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tested once for COVID and they didn't
even give me my results. They didn't

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send them to me. I had
a call back to the place ago,

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where's my results? I don't know. And then two days later it was

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for a concert, you know,
during the big lockdowns and then the concert.

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You have to have this thing or
you can't. No, no results.

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So I went to the concert anyway. It was. It was to

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perform at the concert, and I
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I knew I didn't have COVID,
but they make you get this dumb

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test, and I go to the
concert, and I knew it would happen.

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I get there at two in the
afternoon for sound checks. Who's there

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got two in the afternoon? Is
there a guy checking for documents for COVID

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tests? No, there's two,
you know, Mexican janitors. That's it.

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And I go backstage and I sit
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and then you're done. And I
never took another test a COVID test as

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long as I lived. And I'm
still here alive. Today. If you're

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sick, stay away from people.
Yeah, so that's my that's my show

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bus advice. This is a show
busy advice show. If you're sick,

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stay away from people, which is
precisely why we're doing the show like this.

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Okay, uh, I didn't I
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So I'm not exactly sure what what
our timing is right now. I think

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we got about five minutes. Yeah, I think I think you're right.

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I just pushed it now. So
I have to be a kind of your

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co engineer today because you're so fragile
with your diseases. I'm delicate, all

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right. So you saw cocaine bear
good for you. Let's see what's going

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on in the box office. Nothing
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except for early in the week.
I did see the movie The Hill,

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directed by a first time director.
I think he's first time director. This

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guy was trying to make this movie
for ten years. Celentano is his name.

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And you know, I think if
you like feel good christiany movies,

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you're gonna love this movie. My
sister loved it. It's if you don't

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like feel good Christian movies, I
would skip it, but if you want

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to, you know, so there's
not that much out in there. It's

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to see right now. So if
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want to see the Hill. Dennis
Quaid does a does a very good job

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as a preacher. But it's kind
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kind of Christian movie. It's you
know, it's baseball. The kid is

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a it's an amazing story. He's
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and he ends up in the major
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He ends up playing professional ball,
but in the minors. But but

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the kid couldn't even walk, and
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Evangelicals. I think it's a bit
sure, you'll call him. They're too

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strict, and he somehow got to
play baseball. Anyway, it's a dirt

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poor. They used to eat twinkies
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Cat food. I heard from the
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to talk to her and she said, the true story is the family eight

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cat food. They were dirt poor. So that's always interesting, but it

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is Actually if you don't like Christianity, I think you might like this movie

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because it doesn't paint Christianity in a
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I know a lot of people.
I have a lot of colleagues in the

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music business that hate Christianity. They
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and they they might like this because
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really a good example of of Christian
morality played out because there's no understanding,

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there's no listening to the kid,
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So I don't know, I take
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like christianny movies, you might like
The Hill. Basically, Sam, I'm

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telling you that The Hill has something
for everybody. But it's a it's it's

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another one of those movies that they
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years ago, and now, like
Sound of Freedom, expect more of these,

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uh positive christiany movies. Although the
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was a it was a thriller about
investigating h what do you call them,

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kitty fiddlers? I think it's okay
that can make disparaging terms for child millsters.

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So that's the that's the disparaging term
for the week. Kitty Fiddlers.

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We don't like them. Number one
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two. Mm hmm. That didn't
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doesn't sound like something I would go
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anything has to do with the Devil, so I'd have to see that by

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myself, and there could be some
sacrilege there. I don't know, so

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I'm staying away from it. The
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Equalizer one or two, do I
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So I didn't go my big fat
Greek wedding three. Ouch, but it's

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number three. I didn't even know
that was even in production, right,

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Yeah, it's out, and I'm
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Greek wedding movies, you're gonna love
it. I'm sure my wife will like

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that. Barbie is number five still
and hanging in their blue beetle. Number

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six is pulling in sixty three million. Grand Thereismo. I'd say that's the

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best movie of the new movies to
come out after the Barbeheimer period. Go

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see Grand Thereismo if you haven't seen
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ten. Teenage Mutant Binja Turtle and
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Bottoms is number ten. Strays is
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I think, or just below it. But Strays. I gotta tell

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you, if you're like A,
like A, if you like foul language

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and you think animals are funny,
you're gonna like that movie when it comes

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on as a streamer. It's kind
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But if you don't care about foul
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If you like Will Ferrell, it's
Will Farrell at his best. So let's

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take a break, Sam, and
then when we come back, we'll do

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a little bit more. I got
a lot of celebrities behaving badly today.

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It's the peak of celebrity celebrities behaving
badly season. And we'll get to that

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and more on Joe Scalante Live from
Hollywood. We are back, Joe Escalante

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Live from Hollywood at the business end
of show business. We gone through the

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top ten in the box office.
I didn't see a lot, but let's

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go to my letter box, Sam
and see what I did see that I

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log in the letter box app that
people should have some of my listeners have

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the letterboxed app and I thank them
for doing that. It's kind of fun.

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We see what each other are watching
and what and I'll like, you

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know, my nephews get to see
what I'm watching, and then they tell

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their mom and my sister and like, hey, Joe Savis movie, why

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can't I It's kind of fun.
Not a lot for me in the in

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this in this world, I started. This is the version of binging for

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me. I went back and started
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Oh that's yeah, the Japanese movie. Yes, even better on the

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second time around, because you know, you miss a lot subtitles, and

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when you start the nine hour movie
the Human Condition, you really don't know

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where it's going or what or what
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and so you don't know what to
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time around and the Human Condition love
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you know, just nine hours,
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on the Criterion channel, and that
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I watched that. It's about a
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in Japan, so he's a little
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war at the times during it's like
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like that there. I think it's
forty three, the wars being it seems

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it's being executed by you know,
right wingers in Japan and there, you

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know, Japan first, and we're
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the White devils, and we're going
to subjugate the Chinese. And this guy's

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like kind of an anti war figure. I would like, what what's this

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moral about? I don't like it. So, but he's gonna have to

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go on the service, but he
so he opts. Instead, he gets

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a job supervising a mining operation in
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uh dominated land that they have that
that that Japanese has just taken over.

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And so he doesn't have to go
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mean, we're a weird premise for
a movie. Maybe normal to Japanese people,

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but for us, like that was
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to supervise the mine and he brings
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their life and they're so happy he
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and then it just starts getting worse
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importing Chinese prisoners to do the mining
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you've got Chinese free Chinese people that
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pretty bad conditions. And then you
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so they start taking captured Chinese prison
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that and that's his job, and
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always clashing with the hardcore right winger
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I don't know. I think I
just painted a great picture of a great

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movie that you should see. I
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letterbox, to have very few five
star movies. But that's one, and

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then number Then there's part two and
part three, and then you get to

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go to parties and say, what
are you guys watching? Later, I'm

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watching a nine hour Japanese film,
And then you know, that gets the

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conversation going, that's what you're into, Okay, So what else did I

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do? Let's go to the news, Sam I got some TV news directly

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affects your host. Fox News fires
veteran executive John Finley for violating company rules.

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This is the guy who bought my
first TV show I ever sold,

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Monsters across America. Actually not the
first TV show. I show. I

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sold one in like a year,
two thousand to a digital network. This

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is a streamer, Fox Nation.
John Finley was running and he started it.

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And then that was a big news
yesterday that he had been terminated for

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violent violating policies. And they don't
really give a lot of what he violated.

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But and I'm not going to tell
you he bought my show. I

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can't complain. And so there's some
shake ups going at Fox, you know,

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left and right. I was kind
of rumors that I heard a rumor

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the other day that Elon Musk might
buy the Fox News Channel. Interesting should

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have bought that rather than buy Twitter? No kidding show, Yeah, because

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there would there would be nobody at
Fox News that would that would hate him

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when everyone at Twitter, like you
know, most of the Twitter people don't

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like him. If he would have
bought Fox News Channel, the people that

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watch Fox News would go, oh
yeah, I like this guy and then

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and then it gets like one point
nine billion in revenue every year. It's

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a it's a it just prints money. I don't know if where if he

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has any money left, but if
he wanted to do that, that that

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would be what kind of a where
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like as far as like right now, people are like, well, he's

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kind of powerful. He owns Twitter. What if you on Twitter and Fox

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News Channel, Sam, what would
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his profile in the world. People
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towards right wing leaning people, so
this would fall right in line with that.

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Only difference is this move if he
bought Fox would be profitable. Yes,

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yes, profitable. You do have
the problem of Cabo disintegration and less

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and less people every year having cable
where Fox News is mostly watched. But

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that's why they have Fox Nation is
too, so they have a hedge to

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migrate their news services. And I'm
not speaking on any personal knowledge. I'm

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just saying that's what I you know, I would I would think they you

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know, they built that and now
they have it. So then when cable

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is when they when nobody has cable, which I don't think would ever happen

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because this is you know, there's
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when very few people have cable,
most people watch stuff from streaming services,

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they got a streamer. Yeah,
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like maybe like Rupert Murdoch is today, who owns the Washington know, the

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Washington you know, he owns the
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and Fox News channel, And he'd
be like that. And I think,

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you know, uh, Rupert Murdoch
is very very very old. The company's

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run by his son, Lachlan Murdoch, who is seems to be a rather

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conservative religious individual. But I think
that, I mean, they built this

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thing to make money. They didn't
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politics. In my opinion, they
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and they made this company and they
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why it gets attacked from the right
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right they're always saying, I'm never
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conservative enough for me. And Fox
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the people I know, they're in
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trying to make money, trying to
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We're not here to do everything that
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We're here to make money. And
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Tucker Carlson because they thought, well, I can make more money without Tucker

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Carlsson. To me, that was
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make more money and maybe even set
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want to buy a network that has
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What if you can buy a network
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but Jesse Watters, the guy they
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instead, and he is not controversially
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know, major advertisers are you know, are not boycotting him. That's what

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and we are continuing with that.
And Sam, did you know this

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is more show business? Did you
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merging. Yes, yes, I
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with each other. I heard about
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I mean, UFC is owned by
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arm of William Morris Agency. Uh
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but that's wrestling. That's like theatrical
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is actual fighting. That is real
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a strange pairing. I mean it
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fighter in WWE in UFC, I
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be connected to WWE. But I
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and their mindset is probably different from
when they start their career. Tell about,

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you know, halfway through the career, when they have pugilistic dementia.

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So I don't even know why I'm
talking about it. Sam, Okay?

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Uh, Sam, did you die? Does your COVID get that? Bad?

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Sam is gone? Poor Sam?
Sam zea r I P. We

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will miss him. Oh he left
and he came back. Oh like now

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and now I've got him back.
Hey Sam, are you still there now?

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Hy Sam? You went away?
Yeah, I'm back now. Okay,

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we had a nice We thought you
were dead and I mourned your loss,

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and now you're back. Okay.
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and h UFC because I don't really
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I like old fashioned boxing and occasional
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I'm drunk, maybe I'll wander into
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minutes. See. I like boxing
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big of a UFC fan, but
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the way that the fights are promoted
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general are very similar, so I
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between the two. Yeah, I
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I wouldn't want it. If I
was like, you know, getting punched

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in the head for real to be
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people who you know, learn how
to fall, you know, or get

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hit by a chair without getting that
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I get it, So I don't
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celebrities behaving badly, Sam, because
they are behaving badly and some of them

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are being punished. The big story
this week to me, did you hear

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how many years they sentenced beloved television
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convicted of two rapes that were like, you know, twenty years ago.

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Not that it makes it any less
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Is that shock you, Sam?
No, shocks me. You're on mute

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by the way. Oh I'm sorry
about that. Yeah. What shocks me

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more than anything is the fact that
he's more or less getting more of a

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sentence than Cosby ever did. Right, that's right, Right had a Even

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though the rules were broken for the
Cosmy thing, his sentence should have been

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through the roof. Competively speaking,
that said, I'm okay with him getting

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thirty years. I'm not complaining one
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like there to be some kind of
fairness in the justice system. Call me

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crazy, but also I think you
have to take into into when sentencing,

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take into consideration that there's these are
stories with no traditional like no forensic evidence.

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They are compelling testimony from two women, Whicheverdentley evidently so compelling and so

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believable that the jury was like,
even though this is twenty years ago,

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I believe these women, these women
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so, okay, fine, they
if they believe beyond a reasonable doubt that

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these women are telling the truth,
they must convict him. But the maximum

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sentence from it just seems out of
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see coming down, and so that
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me. And I knew Danny Masterson, right, I know him. I

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mean he was at the eight D
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was there. So it's like,
you know, it's a little harder to

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imagine someone you know that you thought
was super cool and you went to parties

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with and now he's going to be
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you know, not fifteen years concurrently, thirty years in prison for Danny Masterson.

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It's hard to for me to to
to to grasp, but also hard

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to imagine what it was like for
these women to get raped and then,

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as many people believe, have it
covered up by their religion. They were,

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they were all scientologists and when they
they and I think that plays into

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it with the jury because there's a
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so they want to get back at
them too. And when they hear maybe

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the scientologists we're protecting Downy Masterson and
making these women pipe down, you know,

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they want to They want to send
a message there too. So I

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know you're a scientologist, Sam,
so I don't want to. I want

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to try to break Yeah, No, I avoid that. I'm avoiding any

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mention of that organization as much as
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good side and on their anonymous list. Yeah, the anonymous list. I

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just do. I give everybody a
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because oh, Catholics are persecuted,
Scientologists persecuted, and people, you know,

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get into it. They like it. I mean I don't, Yeah,

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I don't. I don't have a
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they do to the buildings in Hollywood. You they like, buy a really

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old historical buildings and then they don't
tear them down. They just kind of

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leave him. Now, I don't
know what's going on inside. Maybe I

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wouldn't like it, but I like
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Here's what I don't like, Sam, the backlash against Ashton Kutcher and Mila

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Kunis. I don't know how to
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Goodness for sending letters to character,
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Now, Danny Masterson during the sentencing, He's gonna ask everybody he knows

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to write a letter to tell the
judge, Hey, this guy is not

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a threat to society and he has
a good side to reduce it so that

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everybody deserves that from their friends who
know them in a different way, you

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know. And and so they did
that, and then they got out a

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backlash, okay, and just trolls
on the internet that they gave him the

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backlash. Who cares about those people? But why does why do Ashton,

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Kutcher and Kohness, Why do they
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Just that's your friend, you stand
by your friend, and you say

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whatever good thing you can say,
and that's the system, and that's you

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know, brotherly love. And then
you do not apologize for that because you're

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apologizing to people that will never ever
ever forgive you or give you a fair

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break if they're if they're already complaining
about that. But these people panic and

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announces. So that's that's that was
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I'm sick of a I'm now I'm
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an apology for that apology. What
do you think about the apology before I

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am? I feel like it's what
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The smell weakness in these people.
Sam, you're still afraid of the

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scientologists gonna get Come on, they're
gonna come and get you. I am

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afraid of so many different organizations coming
to get me. And you have no

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idea for multiple reasons, for multiple
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a break and Sam can change his
name and his identity and his address and

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we'll reap back on Joe'scalante Live from
Hollywood. We are back Joe Escalante Live

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from Hollywood. If by Hollywood,
you mean, this is the business end

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of show business. We do it
every Sunday from five to seven here on

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KiB for all you Hollywood types like
Sam. Here Sam, I got more

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people, more Hollywood types that are
behaving badly. And this week, for

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some reason, out of left field, Rolling Stone reported some like anonymous people

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who said Jimmy Fallon is a bad
boss and it's a toxic work place.

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It's hard to believe because he's seems
like the nicest guy on TV. But

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people do have tantrums, you know, especially when they're at the top like

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he is. He's a pure talent. I don't buy it, really,

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I could. I could see how. You know, it's a tough place.

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Here's what Here's here's what I think
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and the pressure of putting on a
live show several nights a week is makes

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people yell at each other. And
when I worked in production as a junior

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person at HBO, I started at
I. I started at doing music videos

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and then I got a job at
HBO doing working for the Ice TV and

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Ice TV series Ice T. They
never got aired because they punished him for

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a cop killer record. But I
was yelled that all the time, you're

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always getting yelled at people. In
me, I would be in tears.

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And one time I was driving a
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the set to the shuttle area or
whatever, and they were so mean.

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I slammed on the brake so I
could injure all of them, and that

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got through to it. But that
was the way it was. You want

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to work in production, you're gonna
get abused. And then over time people

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started pointing out, hey, you
can't do that to people, and so

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there's less of it. But when
there's remnants, now you have snowflakes coming

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out and going. People were rude
to me. It was a toxic environment.

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You know what you should You had
no idea what I went through.

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So part of me is like,
you know, suck it up, kid,

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and then but so you know,
I'm not there. I don't know

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what it's like. But for Rolling
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it's kind of a hatchet job against
Jimmy Fallon that I don't think it

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deserves, and it doesn't make Rolling
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at this, I got because one
more thing, why don't even read Rolling

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Stone? Why would why would have
read a magazine that did that. I

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think the people behind the Duke Lacrosse
scandal as well, remember that. I

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remember that. I'm not sure if
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the entire media was behind that at
some point. But I mean, you're

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you're working a show almost every day
and you're the host of it, and

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you have to have a standard that
you know you have to meet when you're

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doing a national show like that,
So I can understand him having moments of

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frustration and stuff. At the same
time, You've got a lot of people

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putting you in that position and making
you look good, and you got to

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go out of your way for them
and be and be mindful of the fact

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that they're human too. That's true, one percent true. I'm I'm I

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am one hundred percent behind getting rid
of the of the the toxic bullying that

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will go on in TV and film
production. But I'm also one hundred percent

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behind the scorn against the Rolling Stone
for this kind of journalism which isn't necessary.

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And it was anonymous and harmed a
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them that did the Duke Lacrosse case
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and ruined a lot of people and
ruined their own advertising. They cost their

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own magazine millions of dollars. So
I don't know their land. So I

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don't believe. I don't. I
just don't. I don't believe any of

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this Jimmy Fallon stuff, and I
don't watch Jimmy Fallon, but I don't

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believe it. I refused to believe. I refused to take it seriously because

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it did come from the Rolling Stone, and they're they're a failed journalistic entity,

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proven and it's anonymous, and it's
hurtful and attacks people. So nan

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ornee orner right. I can nan
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So there I did it. Also
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watch. So I don't know how
long this segment's going now that I'm the

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engineer here. We got four more
minutes, four more minutes? Wow,

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you save the day? Okay,
I got let's talk a little bit about

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the strike. Strike's going on so
long there's no end in sight, and

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I haven't come down on either side. As a producer or as a writer

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actor. I do belong to the
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I gotta tell you, Sam,
I think if someone wants to listen to

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me, it's time for the Writer's
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hammer out a deal in a day
and take the DGA deal. The DGA

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agreed on a deal, take that
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there there. I've read through the
stuff that the that the that the producers

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have offered that it's more money and
more of everything that they want it.

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It's not where they want to be. But what you have to be careful

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is if you get to where you
want to be and you really stick it

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to those production companies and studios,
you really stick it to them. The

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problem is this, It's obvious right
now, there's like six hundred shows in

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production, or there was like before
COVID or whatever. All they're gonna do

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is knock it down to three hundred
shows in production. So if you say

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I got to have ten riders on
these shows at all times, they'll go

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and if that's the rule and that's
a lot, they'll say, okay,

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well instead of ordering a six hundred, we're going to order three hundred all

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the studios combined. So you can't
really get everything you want because they don't

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have to make these shows, and
they can very nobly say, oh,

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we're cutting back on the show.
Thank you. Okay, you win,

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you get all your things, but
we're cutting back on these shows. We're

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canceling three hundred shows this year and
this will be collectively all the studios and

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they can do that. So since
we know they can do that, and

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since these deals are only three years, Sam, if you if you make

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a deal, you live with it
for three years. This is not a

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long time. It's not going to
change the industry. There's no AI technology

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that's going to come up in the
next three years. It's going to destroy

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the industry. And I did read
the AI offers and they were reasonable that

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the studios were offering. So I
would say, so my opinion is now,

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after like you know, going through
it and listening all the time to

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everything and both sides, is take
the DGA signed a deal, Go take

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that deal and get back to work. There I said, it's sham.

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A lot of people would agree with
you just because they want to go back

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to work, but not until at
least the writers, and the writers just

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need to get what they're do is
at this point. Yeah, but that

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you just said a platitude that's not
going to do anything. No, I

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agree, get their due, but
you also have to remember everything that I

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say is going to mean nothing.
True. We did, we we we

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have learned that. So what is
their do? We do not know,

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but we do know that the streamers
and the networks can just half the production

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that they do if you get your
way. So if you get your way,

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and if you get all those things, I want ten riders in the

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room at all times. For you
know, however many weeks you're demanding,

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they have the power to just order
half as many shows. So you got

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to just go and baby steps and
keep the production going and keep the machine

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ordering more and more shows, and
more and more shows that get sold.

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Are more and more shows sold by
screenwriters that are now the showrunners and have

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now sold a show, rather than
everybody working on a ten person writing staff

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and not really learning anything and not
really adding any you know, they're there.

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Those aren't their ideas they're putting down
on paper. Those are other people's

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ideas. They're just you know,
they're working for better to have six hundred

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shows. And the way to preserve
that is not to go too far at

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the end of this one, and
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