1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:21,879 You're listening to your worst friend going. You're listening to your Worst Friend with 2 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,559 Shane and Matt. I'm Matt and I'm doing today by my friend and co 3 00:00:24,679 --> 00:00:28,199 host Shane. Hi. We have a very special guest with us today. 4 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,880 I was scared we were not going to be able to fit her in the 5 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,520 schedule for this season, and I pushed one of the greatest publicists in the 6 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,240 world, Erica, like please, let's get this going. She was booked 7 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,960 for a scene the last week when we were supposed to have her, and 8 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,159 I was like, oh shit, can we not get her on the season? 9 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,960 And Erica was like, I'll just fucking bother her until she agrees to 10 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,640 do this thing, and that was really nice of her. Ladies and gentlemen, 11 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,960 We are joined today by Miss Penny Barber. Hello, Hello Penny. 12 00:00:57,079 --> 00:01:00,799 You can find Penny on Twitter and only fans. Do you have a Is 13 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,359 this a paid monthly only fans or is it like free and then pay per 14 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:07,959 view? Oh it's it's not just paid. It's for only fans. It's 15 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,159 kind of expensive. It's like fifteen bucks. So here's what I'll say, 16 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:15,239 same thing we say every episode. Go pay for your fucking porn people, 17 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,840 go pay for it, you know, if you're we had to go do 18 00:01:19,879 --> 00:01:23,000 it anyway. Twitter and only fans, same name Pampered Penny. Go check 19 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,599 out our website taboo View dot com and her mainstream and indie projects Penny Barber 20 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,400 Films dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, Penny Barber, thank you very much 21 00:01:32,439 --> 00:01:34,719 for being on with us tonight. Thank you for having me. Wonderful. 22 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:40,239 So right off the bat, let's get let's do the basic questions to get 23 00:01:40,239 --> 00:01:42,760 them out of the way and introduce you to our audience. How did you 24 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:49,480 initially get into the industry? The tale as old as time. I was 25 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,079 eighteen and I needed money. You need it money? Sure good? It 26 00:01:53,159 --> 00:01:59,159 is the wild West. You know. McDonald's wasn't hiring. Oh okay, 27 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:04,599 wow lucky I'm not dead ye right, yeah yeah. Backpage and Craigslist right 28 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,960 at the time. We're yeah, thing of the past now, but um 29 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:14,960 yeah, it's it's uh we we We did speak to somebody once though, 30 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,599 who I think did have a run in that almost ended in disaster. Was 31 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,560 that a Craigslist story, Matt? Was that a was that a person from 32 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,919 Craigslist that they were going to meet? No, we can recount that story, 33 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,159 but i'd uh as much as I pushed you to make sure you did 34 00:02:30,159 --> 00:02:34,080 your plug, Shane, I just skipped over him. Go ahead, Shane 35 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,599 at the end, Well, let me just do our plugs first. It's 36 00:02:37,599 --> 00:02:40,560 at your Worst Friend dot com, Worst Friend Cast on all social media. 37 00:02:40,719 --> 00:02:45,319 Check us out, follow us on YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, all of 38 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,800 that, Shane, Please go ahead. Yeah, yeah, you can find 39 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,960 my wife's only fans at x X. Goddamn, that's God with a g 40 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:58,240 ah. You know it's not God like the Christian one. And then go 41 00:02:58,319 --> 00:03:04,680 to Twitter Kiki Underscore Filipina xo U. But yeah, the the idea like 42 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,639 she's getting into the the adult content market. Now, you know we're in 43 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,560 our thirties. But you said you did it at eighteen, and so Craigslist 44 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:19,560 was an option and that's the one different time. Yeah, yeah, was 45 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:23,280 there ways that you vari Well, I mean, okay, can I ask 46 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,960 who was your first shoot with? Was it or maybe your first mainstream shoot 47 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,840 or did it take a while to get you to your first mainstream shoot? 48 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:37,319 My it was it was just like GWCS And like, you know, I 49 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:44,439 don't know what I was thinking you were thinking. I'm hungry and I need 50 00:03:44,479 --> 00:03:47,680 food and need a place to stay, right, I was, But I 51 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:53,479 should have been more cautious. I would not encourage anyone to do what I 52 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:57,319 did. And it was a different time, you know, like it wasn't 53 00:03:58,919 --> 00:04:00,639 quite so open as it is now. You know, you still had to 54 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,479 there's it wasn't just anyone was on the internet. I guess anyone could have 55 00:04:04,479 --> 00:04:10,759 been on the internet. Well there must have been most options too, huh. 56 00:04:10,879 --> 00:04:15,519 Sorry, there must have been far fewer options for getting this opportunity, 57 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,600 at least on I mean, because I mean there was no only fans when 58 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,519 you were eighteen, was there? No? I mean I was involved in 59 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,120 some very early crowdfunding type things, you know, sort of proto only fans 60 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:30,920 was did you guys? Ever hear of my free implants dot com? Sounds 61 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:35,160 awesome and I want to contribute to it. Sure, it's it's gone away 62 00:04:35,199 --> 00:04:39,920 forever now it's dead. But um, you know, at at like that's 63 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,439 how I funded my breasts. You know, I don't even know if we 64 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,480 called it crowdfunding, but it was very very early crowdfunding. You know. 65 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,279 I got to be on Playboy TV, and I was ever so excited. 66 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:55,560 But yeah, I started shooting with companies up in San Francisco. I just 67 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,160 didn't want to go to LA, which now I think was a big mistake. 68 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,000 I think I should have gone to fucking La. UM. But yeah, 69 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,879 well, why is that those because of the shoots in San Francisco were 70 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:12,600 so poor? Because the ones in LA are so much better. The ones 71 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:16,680 in LA are I mean both the shoots in LA are are better. The 72 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,800 people who are really serious about their careers go to LA. You know, 73 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,920 why wouldn't you? Um. And so there's there's some stuff kind of still 74 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,240 up here, but you know, ever since kink dot com kind of you 75 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,279 know, it died and now it's kind of come back in this sort of 76 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,480 zombie form. Um. You know, but even a lot of kink stuff 77 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,800 isn't really up here in San Francisco anymore. That the culture has sort of 78 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,000 died and it's it's coming back a bit, you know. I don't want 79 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,240 to just think that it's gone forever. But um, you know, LA 80 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,920 is just so much more professional in my experience, it's uh, it's more 81 00:05:55,959 --> 00:05:58,879 beautiful, you know. I When I go down there, I'll be working 82 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:03,600 with these professional photografs with like twenty years of experience who create these gorgeous images, 83 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,319 and you take their craft very seriously. They're not just shooting like what 84 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:11,360 gets them off, They're shooting, you know, what looks good. And 85 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:15,079 so I have a lot more work that I'm just prouder of, you know, 86 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:21,680 sure, so well you reference kink dot com everything I've read on you. 87 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:25,399 I always like to do a lot of background research. That's my excuse 88 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:28,800 to my wife for watching all your videos. Um, sorry, sorry they're 89 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,439 gross. So sorry, no, no, you got not a lot of 90 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,480 it. Not necessarily my thing. But I make no judgments on what people 91 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:40,079 are into. Well there's some exceptions judgment, Yeah, there for sure it 92 00:06:40,199 --> 00:06:42,839 is and I'm going to ask you about that later. But um, you 93 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,399 did so okay, that's interesting. Early on in the process, one of 94 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:53,639 our first interviews was with somebody with kink dot com. Very famous, very 95 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,000 popular with kink right now and I'm wondering what you meant by the zombie form. 96 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,199 What has changed with kink dot com where it was to where it is 97 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:06,319 now. So our interview was with Charlotte. Um, Charlotte, okay, 98 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,480 yeah, and she's one of my boy Well, I don't know what that 99 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,759 look he's a baby. I was like from back in the day, I'm 100 00:07:14,759 --> 00:07:18,160 like, what is she? Well see see see that's and that's the thing 101 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:24,959 that is my recollection of kink dot Com is kind of Charlotte directing scenes there 102 00:07:25,079 --> 00:07:28,720 now and doing this and that. What was it like back when you started? 103 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,560 And what is different between that and the zombified version that it is now. 104 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,639 Charlotte was not there right for sure? I don't think she was an 105 00:07:35,639 --> 00:07:40,680 adult. Um, you know, we were shooting with people like Lou Rubens 106 00:07:40,879 --> 00:07:46,160 and Schanta Rose and Peter himself and you know, um, you know, 107 00:07:46,199 --> 00:07:49,279 I know Matt Williams is coming back and he has some fun ideas actually a 108 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:56,000 Doormatt adore his wife d very cool people. But that's so interesting because I 109 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,519 think of Charlotte as being so new, you know for sure for sure, 110 00:07:59,519 --> 00:08:01,839 Well, to be to be fair again, kink dot Com wasn't when I 111 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,319 was regularly going to personally. So that is my snapshot of it, having 112 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:11,560 done that interview and talked to her and delved into more of these kinks and 113 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,560 fetishes and everything like that. But um, are you just because your first 114 00:08:15,879 --> 00:08:20,079 for first interview with Charlotte, No, first interview of this season. Okay, 115 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,360 right, yes, yes, uh the first No, you know, 116 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,199 she's she's on my personal Mount Rushmore. She looks just like my wife. 117 00:08:28,519 --> 00:08:33,559 Um, I appreciate there are many things, and we discussed that with Charlotte. 118 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:35,639 Yeah, exactly, my wife might like you more than me, so, 119 00:08:37,159 --> 00:08:41,919 um, she does that. But what I'm what I'm wondering is again 120 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:46,120 from Kink that you knew to Now, are you just saying people have turned 121 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:52,039 over since then? Or have they turned toned themselves down or tone themselves up 122 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:58,720 or they've definitely toned themselves down a lot, which is not necessarily a problem. 123 00:08:58,759 --> 00:09:01,159 You know. One of one of the things that so one of the 124 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:05,480 stories from one of my earlier shoots there for what is it called Electro Sluits 125 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:13,759 something like that was a band I was in in high school. But yeah, 126 00:09:13,799 --> 00:09:16,559 it was. It was from their electricity website. I can't recall the 127 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,919 exact name. So sure the stuff. Yeah, and you know that the 128 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:26,840 shocks really really hurt, and you know, in the middle of it electricity, 129 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:31,360 it's a lot of electricity. Yeah, but in the middle of shooting 130 00:09:31,399 --> 00:09:33,799 one of the things broke and they're like, oh, well, we're just 131 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,360 gonna keep going, just act like it hurts. And I was like, 132 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,919 we could have done that the whole freaking time. Wow, oh my god, 133 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:46,200 because it was really really painful, and you know, I am a 134 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,600 masochist. I like pain to a degree. But so it was kind of 135 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:52,480 like the worst parts of like, you know, of of the scene. 136 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:56,000 And then you couldn't really get into subspace and sort of roticize the pain because 137 00:09:56,039 --> 00:09:58,279 you know, you're stopping every two minutes and you know, it's just it's 138 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:05,279 not you really doing a scene at that point. So they definitely cut tore 139 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:07,679 themselves down, which in some ways I'm like, Okay, you know, 140 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:11,480 it's a movie. You know, you don't need to it's a movie. 141 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:16,039 Whatever, So that doesn't actually bother me. I know, they're really hardcore 142 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,039 people are like, oh, it's all fake now, and I'm like, 143 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:22,320 it's a film, you know. If you can do things like one of 144 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,960 the little tricks they would do to sort of tone down the cattle prod is 145 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,639 instead of just putting all the batteries in it, they'd take like a little 146 00:10:28,759 --> 00:10:31,200 section of a Dowell and like wrap it and aluminum foil. I've never done 147 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,600 this myself, but this is what I was told, and then they'd use 148 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,399 that and put that in there, so there was like less of voltage going 149 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,799 into you cool and so you know, I'm all for them doing stuff like 150 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,799 that. How has it changed in the zombie way? You know, it's 151 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,639 it's less glamorous unt you know, they used to be at all the awards 152 00:10:50,639 --> 00:10:54,080 shows and you're spending all this money, and I guess they kind of realized, 153 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,559 well, we don't have to do that. It doesn't make sales, 154 00:10:56,799 --> 00:11:00,440 which is true, but there is, you know, part of me that 155 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:05,399 likes to be very appreciated for my work and these big you know, pageants 156 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,440 basically of porn are part of that. And I felt like I kind of 157 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,919 missed out on it, and I was kind of like coming back into the 158 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:18,480 scene now. And yeah, Kinks is not the same as it used to 159 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:20,559 be. You know, I don't think that people would feel the same way 160 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,679 about walking around at kink dot com sweatshirt sweatshert, you know, like I'd 161 00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:26,159 rather wear a deeper sweatshirt at this point in time. I read a book 162 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,879 on the early days of HBO, and HBO for many years was losing money 163 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:35,120 by dumping so much into it, but it was always about the quey. 164 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:41,519 They never base their success on subscribers as much as they did the award shows, 165 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:48,000 because the subscribers will come with the high end, high quality content. 166 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:52,159 So there were a lot of times early on, and you know, around 167 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,000 the Sopranos time and stuff like that at HBO, when it was like, 168 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,039 hey, we could cut this and make this cheaper, and they go, 169 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,919 well, is that going to cost us an award? Well, maybe it'll 170 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,960 give us less of a chance. No, put the money into it, 171 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,840 spending and and I'm not even necessarily saying it's the money issue, but it 172 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:11,200 could be in a sense, you know, making that good product though. 173 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:18,200 But also I wonder in today's society if maybe they're also and maybe I'm wrong. 174 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:24,440 I have no insight into this more worried about scrutiny h which which again, 175 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,039 um, we understand this is consulting adult adults. You are a masochist. 176 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,919 You would enjoy the things they are doing to you, you know, 177 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,480 I mean, maybe they didn't need to hit you with all that electricity. 178 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:43,279 But at the same time, it does give a good billboard for some woman 179 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,480 somewhere to go. Look at this abusing women. Oh my god, it's 180 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:52,039 terrible. This is what the porn industry does. You know. I'm surprised 181 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:56,279 it hasn't happened already just because of uh, like you say, you know, 182 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,039 you want to appease people in advance, right, And there's already so 183 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:07,639 much oversight in regular films about safety and protocol, like like, look at 184 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:11,519 a movie like The Rate. It's a martial arts film, Okay, cool, 185 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,480 So like yeah, yeah, those dudes beat the shit out of each 186 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:18,440 other in that movie. And there's fighters, you know first, an actor's 187 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:22,600 kind of second. Sure, but a lot of those stunts would never have 188 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:28,600 been allowed on an American set. There's physical contact happening. Um yeah, 189 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,759 yeah, yeah, Like I didn't know that. There's definitely ways you could 190 00:13:33,799 --> 00:13:37,960 do them in American movies, but they wouldn't have looked as realistic as they 191 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,000 did in that Indonesian movie. I'm almost certain that the guy who made the 192 00:13:41,039 --> 00:13:46,320 movie, he's either a Canadian or an American. I think he went there 193 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:52,600 to make it specifically to get around like film restrictions. So m my, 194 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:58,840 my my point is, I'm shocked there hasn't been some sort of massive over 195 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,120 site in the adult film industry too. Um, you know, like, 196 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:07,360 you can't do this, you can't do that. I know that there's certain 197 00:14:07,399 --> 00:14:11,600 things you legally can't show, you know, or sell as adult content. 198 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:16,200 But um, like you can't hit your actors on a film set. You 199 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:22,120 know, like you you can't you can't. Um, you can't tell Brad 200 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:26,799 Pitt to punch Leo for real. Um. But in adult films you can 201 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,080 do things that you couldn't do with regular films, which we're not advocating for. 202 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,000 By the way. I don't at all, No Brad Pitt should punch 203 00:14:35,039 --> 00:14:37,080 anybody. Oh no, I'm okay with that. I'm saying I don't want 204 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,720 as much regulation and born I want safety. I think that's fine, but 205 00:14:41,879 --> 00:14:43,960 I like safety, but you know the regulation. Hey, look, if 206 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,159 Penny wants to get the ship beat out of her with a caning thing, 207 00:14:48,559 --> 00:14:52,279 let her do it. I'm okay. There are certain there are legal concerns, 208 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,799 like you can't consent to assaults like you just rant. Sure, Well, 209 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,840 what is the definition of assault? Though? Oh, I know now 210 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:07,360 you're sounding like a lawyer. So there are certain things that you can and 211 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,960 can't do. It's mostly determined right now by the credit card companies, which 212 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:16,600 is terrifying pervoc company, which is basically New World cash. You know, 213 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:22,639 Sure is making these determinations. It's it's kind of scary, but at the 214 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:26,320 same time, I mean, I don't know how I feel about it, 215 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,919 because I do think that you can go too far and you do have girls 216 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:31,879 who will come on set and be like, oh well, I felt like 217 00:15:31,919 --> 00:15:35,279 I had to do it to get paid, and they're kind of right because 218 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:39,159 I'm like, that's that's the shoot, you know, like, and we've 219 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,480 all heard horror stories. Um, I don't have any yet, thank god, 220 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,600 thank god. Well, I mean a big part of it too. 221 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,080 Should I mean, in avoiding the horror story, shouldn't it be like, 222 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,360 you know that the only way to get paid is to do the shoot, 223 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,879 but you should know exactly what you're getting into before you show up once, 224 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,919 right, like that that should all be laid out for you. So you 225 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,600 do and you don't. Most of the negotiation takes place like immediately before you 226 00:16:07,639 --> 00:16:12,399 shoot, and it kind of depends. It kind of depends. Like I 227 00:16:12,679 --> 00:16:17,120 just did a shoot for Adult Time where they just really made sure They're like, 228 00:16:17,159 --> 00:16:21,039 are you okay with p and I was like, yeah, I'm having 229 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,879 Yeah, you can peel over me. You know, I'll brush my teeth 230 00:16:22,879 --> 00:16:26,399 with it. I don't care. Yeah, sure, and then all the 231 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,600 right things for me. And then I got there and they're like, okay, 232 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,200 we're gonna do this the thing now. And they had the girl turn 233 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:37,919 around and they handed her a you know, a douche with with water in 234 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,159 it, and they're like, okay, squeeze this in. And I was 235 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,759 like, they went over it so much, and I was like, oh, 236 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,159 I thought she was gonna pee, and she was like, well, 237 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,200 she doesn't have to, you know, we can just do it this way. 238 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,039 And I was like, oh, right then, you know that, 239 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,399 Okay, I don't I didn't mind. I was like into it. You 240 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,720 know, I'm just a cute girl. But my my, that's always been 241 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,480 my scrutiny about the adult industry is from doing these interviews and hearing the I 242 00:17:04,519 --> 00:17:07,200 mean, we've talked to some of the biggest names in this and that is 243 00:17:07,759 --> 00:17:15,480 I've never understood why. And maybe it's a both sides thing. Maybe it's 244 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,400 it's sometimes the performers are unreliable and sometimes the studios are. But I've seen 245 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:26,240 stories of you know, this girl getting on the plane flying somewhere you guys, 246 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:29,599 paying your your travel up front, some of you. Now again, 247 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,240 maybe that depends on level. I assume right right, paying travel up front, 248 00:17:33,279 --> 00:17:37,319 getting there, booking your own hotel, told, being told you'll pay 249 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,480 all of you know you'll be Uh what is the term I'm looking for? 250 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,319 Reimbursed reimburse I want to say redeemed reimburse for all of that. And then 251 00:17:47,519 --> 00:17:49,839 scenes canceled and never mind, we don't pay a kill fee. Sometimes we 252 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,519 do, sometimes we don't. But you're fucked. You're out of luck to 253 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,839 me. If I'm a girl, and trust me, I wouldn't make a 254 00:17:56,839 --> 00:18:03,599 pretty one my I would definitely have to BBW fantist. Thanks sweetie. Ah 255 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:10,319 yeah, well not this big anyway, m My. I would want this. 256 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:12,640 I would want personally, and again, you tell me if this is 257 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,759 ridiculous, and you know, if I had a track record of always showing 258 00:18:17,839 --> 00:18:22,359 up, I don't cancel right, put in a contract. You're gonna cover 259 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,599 this, You're gonna cover this, not cover it. You're gonna buy my 260 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:27,880 plane ticket, you're gonna send me my reservation for the hotel time, and 261 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:33,440 I want a detailed itinerary of everything we will do on set that day. 262 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:37,759 We're doing double anal, we're doing facial at the end. We're doing this 263 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,599 that. Hey, you don't have to make grimaces. It's what I like 264 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,759 as a pretty beautiful, big woman anyway. Um, you're pretty demanding. 265 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:45,799 Man. I just want someone to cut of my house and fuck me in 266 00:18:45,799 --> 00:18:52,640 the ass. Is it ridiculous to say maybe we could have a little more 267 00:18:52,839 --> 00:18:57,359 back and forth in terms of responsibility from the people. And this obviously falls 268 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:03,680 more on the content creation aiders themselves, like the mainstream studios. Hey, 269 00:19:03,319 --> 00:19:06,640 this is all laid out, this is taken care of for you. If 270 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,519 you don't show up, we'll probably not work with you again, and fuck 271 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:11,640 it, we might sue you. Who knows, maybe nothing will come out 272 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,519 of it, but we might sue you. So make sure you show up 273 00:19:15,519 --> 00:19:17,680 on time, you get on the plane, you get in their hotel, 274 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,480 and you're ready to shoot. It is it is a risk, you know, 275 00:19:21,559 --> 00:19:26,920 Like I produce content and I also appear in content, so you know, 276 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:30,160 I mean, yeah, you never know if an actor is going to 277 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,720 follow through. But I think that one of the ways to make sure that 278 00:19:34,759 --> 00:19:38,680 they are going to follow through is to have a really great working environment and 279 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:41,640 to treat them well, and I do think that it creates, you know, 280 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:47,599 a sense of obligation for some people, and I don't know. On 281 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:48,480 the one hand, I feel like, well, that's the cost of doing 282 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:52,839 business if like one girl in fifty doesn't show up to her call time or 283 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,720 you know, the boys too. I'm sorry, I always like default because 284 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:02,599 I'm a lady, me too. Yeah, but like if someone you know 285 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,119 doesn't show up, well, that's the cost of doing business. I've I've 286 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,240 been out and flown out places and I don't pay for my own flights. 287 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,079 But I've flown out places and something happens and we can't shoot, and you 288 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,960 know, thank God for early fans because otherwise, you know, I've wasted 289 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,880 that day. That money's not coming back. I've got to do something, 290 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,559 you know. I don't have a lot of the things that people who have, 291 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,680 you know, straight jobs have. I don't have like four oh one 292 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:29,960 K matching. I have to pay for my own health insurance. You know, 293 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,319 you don't have PTO personal time off right where you get paid for those 294 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:40,440 days off right now, you're an independent contractor essentially, Yes, So yeah, 295 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,119 it's nice if you can get people to pay for it. I've started 296 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:48,440 being a little more proactive, let's say, in asking who who else is 297 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,599 going to be on set? Like I used to just kind of get booked 298 00:20:51,599 --> 00:20:52,720 and I'm like, well, what about this guy? What about that guy? 299 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,960 What about this girl? You know, just because on the one hand, 300 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,000 I want to work with people I like, but on the other hand, 301 00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:02,559 I also understand at the company that's booking me isn't going to want to 302 00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:03,960 book me with like the same five people over and over and over again. 303 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:10,559 So it's it's seven hours the same scene at that point. Yeah, exactly. 304 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,960 Yeah, what are you going to do? Right? How would you 305 00:21:12,039 --> 00:21:17,000 vet somebody knew that you'd be working with or would you not vet them or 306 00:21:17,079 --> 00:21:21,400 is it a gut feeling when you meet them or you know? Um so 307 00:21:21,599 --> 00:21:26,880 normally, yeah, I'll look at their their social media and stuff, and 308 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,119 you know, people talk. Sure I might have heard something. Oh god, 309 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,640 I just had like it's not really quite a horror story, but I 310 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,160 did just have a my god, my first scene where the guy just wasn't 311 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,319 listening to me, and it was utterly bizarre. It never happened to be 312 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:47,119 I've been doing this for like twenty years. It never happened to be before 313 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,759 you behind her in front of the camera for this in front. Can you 314 00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:53,799 imagine if you're going down on a woman and she says, can you do 315 00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:59,400 this instead of that? And you just said no. Wow, I didn't 316 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,559 know I could do that. Yeah, I didn't think that was allowed. 317 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:08,640 And now this is on set filming and you're the performer. Yeah I was. 318 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,839 I was performing, and you know, I was just like, can 319 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,680 you He kept licking my urethra and I was not loving that as much as 320 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,440 I like a uti. Um. I was like, could you lick my 321 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:21,279 clit instead? Like it's you know, like I tried to make it all 322 00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:23,039 cute. You're like, oh, it's right here. I didn't try to 323 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:26,000 be sexy about it, because you know, I don't want him to like 324 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:30,000 lose his erection or anything. Um, And you know, I like to 325 00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:32,920 have my I don't know if we're allowed to say clit here, but I 326 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,680 also just think, whatever you want. The internet's the wild West still, 327 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,880 so go ahead. Well, I prefer to have my clitterest licked than my 328 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:47,279 urethra as as you do. Yeah, yeah, you know. And what 329 00:22:47,319 --> 00:22:52,440 woman's response did he just flat out say no? He said no, No, 330 00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:56,559 I'd rather lick your pe hole. Yeah. It was over and over 331 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,519 again, like the whole scene. Like he was he wasn't kissing me, 332 00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:03,640 like, um, he kept licking my chin, which, hey, that's 333 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,680 just weird. That's like I didn't think it was sexy. Um, And 334 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,480 so I like held his face and like started, you know, kissing his 335 00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:17,079 mouth was crazy idea, Yeah, imagine that and he's just and so he's 336 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,319 he's like, no, I really like you, so I want to do 337 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,640 this, and then went back to licking my chin. And I was just 338 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,519 like okay, you know, and you know, the director kept playing you 339 00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:29,079 aside. He's like, are you okay? And you know I was fine. 340 00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:33,200 You know, yeah, you didn't feel you were in danger losing his 341 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,400 virginity to you? Was that was that in the scene? Way? Wait? 342 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,759 Wait? Were you not understanding the concept of the scene. He was 343 00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:45,200 an eighteen year old boy, he was playing in this and he just had 344 00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:52,720 left Mormon camp and this No, he just left camp. I wish or 345 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,319 or can I say this? We've told well it was it's not going to 346 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,839 be sexy. You don't have to do that, but um, is it 347 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:06,920 that? However, he was licking your your wreath robe was potentially more esthetically 348 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:11,519 pleasing to camera, because I've we've heard plenty of times that that doesn't excuse 349 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:15,279 the chin licking. No, that's like, yeah, jeez, that was 350 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,920 graceful. I went through six different things that were all too offensive to say 351 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,359 about somebody licking a chin. But let's put it. Not the smartest person 352 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,359 in the world, I'll just put it that way. Um, that was 353 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,039 a thought I had. I didn't say anything. Yeah, not all the 354 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:32,319 chromosomes in order, I understand. Um, but how was his dick though, 355 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,960 Let's be honest, was it? Okay, does it matter at this 356 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,359 point? Yeah, let's put it. I mean, yeah, exactly doesn't 357 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,319 matter. But he ruined himself. He was he was a pretty guy, 358 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,759 you know, like, but he ruined himself. And I was just like, 359 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,519 Okay, you didn't seem to like female pleasure. He didn't seem to 360 00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:52,640 know how to eat pussy. I mean, and you know what, let's 361 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,759 let's say that it whatever. You know, I'm just gonna say it. 362 00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:57,799 No, I don't think it was more esthetically pleasing. Did you prefer to 363 00:24:57,839 --> 00:25:02,759 watch men licking your Rea throws the dude, I don't know where the clid 364 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,920 is Okay. I've thought it was a myth all of my life, so 365 00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:08,359 I can't tell you what I think of that. But that's the wrong question 366 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,640 to ask a guy with a p fetish Yeah. Yeah, no, Shane, 367 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,599 Shane has me, you know, so, UM okay, all right, 368 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,880 Now here's the thing I'm not asking you identify the person obviously or the 369 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:25,920 site obviously. Um, but have you seen the final product yet or is 370 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,559 it not out yet? No, it's not It isn't out yet, and 371 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,279 I will be checking for that, but I'm going to be checking the index 372 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,319 dot com every time you put out a new scene. Is it this guy? 373 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,680 Is it this guy? Yeah? But what what I was trying to 374 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,599 say about it is, you know, it wasn't a great day on set 375 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,079 for me, right, but the director was kid being like are you okay? 376 00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:49,039 And two different crew members came over to me and they're like, you 377 00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:52,559 know, it looks kind of rough out there, like do you want to 378 00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:56,480 say something to the director? And you know, I could have like ended 379 00:25:56,519 --> 00:26:00,240 the scene, or I could have just been like, well, like my 380 00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:02,519 chin is getting licked a lot today, and you know, just kind of 381 00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:03,680 stuck it up, get paid and go home. Because if I call the 382 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,079 scene. No, I don't get paid, and honestly I don't really I 383 00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:10,720 mean I kind of get it. You know, like as as a business 384 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,319 owner, it's very tempting to not waste the you know, ten twenty however, 385 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,759 many thousands of dollars they spent on everything else for the shoot just because 386 00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:23,559 you know, some model is being fussy about getting her chin licked. So 387 00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:26,519 sure, yeah, and it's it's you know, you can you can always 388 00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:30,119 make the same comparison the regular film, right, Like, if you're you 389 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,440 have a bad actor on set, are you going to cancel production just because 390 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,160 he is is the standout bad portion of the scene. It's like, if 391 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,079 you got to get the scene done, you've got to get it done. 392 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,960 Everybody's here. I guess this scene is going to have one bad performance, 393 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:49,039 you know, but let's try and let's try and focus on the whole. 394 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,480 Um and and that's that, yeah, the whole That was the problem. 395 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,440 He was focusing on the whole for the wrong hole. Oh yeah, yeah, 396 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,319 but you know that that's was your professionalism. Um, you know that 397 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,400 you're so yeah that your cognis isn't of you know, performers, and uh 398 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,000 and I'm sure that that will go a long way in booking you more and 399 00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:18,000 more scenes and less and less for mister chin Wetter. That's that's his name. 400 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:23,920 Now, in my mind, is the goal in your mind to get 401 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:32,440 to the point where you don't necessarily have to shoot for other sites. I 402 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,319 love shooting for other sites, Actually, I love it. I love getting 403 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,799 to talk to the dps. I love getting to talk to the photographers. 404 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,119 I just I love getting to see all the gear and stuff that they have. 405 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,480 God, I was just like on set and this guy was telling me 406 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:48,240 about like he started using the e L zone to set his exposure, and 407 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,240 I was just like, well, that's so cool. I love it so 408 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,119 much. It's the best. Now, are you a Nikon or a Cannon 409 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,920 girl? Like Cannon? That's fine, I don't know. I like can 410 00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:04,240 and as well, first Cannon, So it's we're a Canon family here, 411 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,440 folks. Um. That is a question I just came up with today, 412 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:14,559 and I've never ansked this on the show. Uh do you ever suffer from 413 00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:19,119 imposter syndrome? Do you know what that is? First? I do know 414 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,759 what that is. Thank you. I'm just paid. It doesn't need you 415 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:27,839 to man explain it. I was lady explaining it. That's when you explain 416 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,240 it to a lady. He has a lady. Yeah, as a lady. 417 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,799 Yes, I'm playing a gender in my own head. I have no 418 00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:41,240 idea what's going on and figuring it out still, yeah, you do him? 419 00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:47,640 Yeah, I get imposter syndrome. Um, no, I'm sorry. 420 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,400 Whenever I actually it's kind of the opposite. Whenever I'm having a really rough 421 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,720 day. You know, I'm married, and my husband will just like, 422 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,440 you know, get me home, be like you are Penny fucking Barber, 423 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,039 and I'd be like, I am Penny fucking Barber. Does it right? 424 00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:03,240 Nice? I think that's I mean, I think that's how it should be. 425 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:10,000 I think confidence, you know that hard I deserve. I wonder, 426 00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:14,000 and I guess we'll determine this by more of these interviews that we do. 427 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:19,240 If that separates people from full on content creators like you, who have almost 428 00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:23,359 like built your own business on top of the work you did, you know, 429 00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:29,839 if that differentiates between someone who's just strictly in front of the camera and 430 00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:33,319 or strictly has reached a level of celebrity. Maybe not. I don't know. 431 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,480 I have no idea, No idea. Yeah, I mean, i'd 432 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,680 be interested to hear or I mean, I know it's not like you're going 433 00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:41,119 to do a formal study, but it would be interesting to see some like 434 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,440 statistics here. Some people talk about things even just you know, experience. 435 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:52,039 Sure, sure, you get imposter Syndra every fucking day. We had a 436 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:57,680 cancelation before this another one of Erica's clients car trouble, not her fault. 437 00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:03,680 Oh that's a boomer. But um literally, I was at Exotico with my 438 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,440 wife last year and I saw this same performer and I said, oh, 439 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,759 she's too big. We'll never be able to talk to her, like, 440 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:11,960 we'll never be able to get her on the show. And then I almost 441 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,000 had her on the show. You know, in our first season we got 442 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,960 Sarah j you know. Oh so that's you know, and now she does 443 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,960 a lot of podcasts, I learned later on. But at the same time, 444 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,200 yeah, I've worked hard, I've put this together. I've been able 445 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,839 to sure And at the same time, I finished these interviews and I go, 446 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,599 why the fuck would anyone want to talk to me? Ever, so 447 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:41,640 yeah, yeah, yeah, because somehow I wroped Erica into this. Um 448 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,000 no, I yes, I definitely I suffer from that. And that's okay, 449 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:52,240 because imposter syndrome only really matters if you pull yourself back and bury yourself 450 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:56,680 after that, as long as you keep continuing moving forward, your work will 451 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:02,279 show and it'll prove itself. Um. Anyway, I don't suffer from imposter 452 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,160 syndrome. I know you're the fucking best. It's great. All you have 453 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,039 to do is give him nothing to do and then he'll fucking crush that. 454 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,720 It's so good. Well, dude, y'all, you get caught up in 455 00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:15,720 your whole identity. I'm a podcaster and this is what I am, and 456 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:19,440 I am my work and it represents me. It's like, dude, you 457 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,799 don't fucking exist. Your life is an illusion, and so is yourself and 458 00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:30,240 your consciousness and all that bullshit. Just fucking die already. Matt escalated off 459 00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:36,200 the rail. Yeah, that's about every episode. We're being honest. Um, 460 00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:37,480 that's what. Yeah, how we made our name, that's how we 461 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:44,400 got Erica's attention. Yeah. Yeah, here here's another general question. No, 462 00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:48,079 it is a general question, but it's porn related. Um, over 463 00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:51,200 the last ten years, and actually it seems like this is a fetish you 464 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:56,480 are you have participated in and you're very interested in. But I'm sorry. 465 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,400 I'm so sorry. Uh. In the last ten years or so, incest 466 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,440 has made a big push as the fetish of the decade. Oh that's not 467 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,519 what I thought you're gonna say. Yeahs like screen, No, Well, 468 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,680 now I need to know what it is? Which one? What is it? 469 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,240 I'm not If you know, great, But if you don't know, 470 00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:15,200 you don't want to know. Oh no. On set, like, I 471 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,359 always apologize to people because we'll get there and people are like, this is 472 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,960 gross. We have to do more of this taboo stuff, and I'm like, 473 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,119 I'm so sorry. I'm the reason I love this stuff. Oh yeah, 474 00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:29,279 it's cool. OA. Like I could force like every dude on earth 475 00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:32,480 to like call me mommy once. That would be great. I just learned 476 00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:37,079 how hot that is. Yeah, it's really appealing. Let's come back to 477 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,519 that. But I want to finish this question. What's a trend, a 478 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,519 kink, or a fetish that you'd like to see takeover for the next decade. 479 00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:50,839 Maybe that's the answer. Sorry, I didn't actually realize this until you 480 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,960 brought it up. You know, what kind of porn i'd like to see 481 00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:59,440 morea I really like I'm getting into it. More's it's not even it's it's 482 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,720 okay. Like I say it, You're gonna think like the really gross like 483 00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:04,839 grocery store ones, but I don't mean that. I mean like the really 484 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:10,559 nice, designer, like high quality, very like soft, beautiful pantyhose. 485 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,960 I would about them coming on pantyhose, fucking through pantyhose. I just really 486 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,519 pantyhose. I do like to wear them. I like to see them all, 487 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:23,759 you know, because I have a I like feet a lot too, 488 00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:27,960 and legs and like you know, like like just a you have like like 489 00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:31,920 yoga pants, like just like make as look perfect shapely. Yeah, so 490 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:37,559 it's like they're like yoga pants, but you can see through them. I 491 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,799 like it, you know, and like ill just like like a foot, 492 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,240 like a really feminine foot with like red toenails, like going into like, 493 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:52,640 okay, really sheer black pantyhose like oh oh see. I was thinking of 494 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,640 like the skin colored ones with like the padding that's in them, and I'm 495 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,319 like, oh, my Grandma, that's what people think. Yeah, And 496 00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:02,839 I'm like, no, not like those like the like the nice Woolford's or 497 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,799 like the thirty dollars like folk pantyhose, you know, the really sexy ones 498 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:12,920 secure to waste. Yeah. Now going back, Um, the mommying fetish, 499 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,079 if we if we can touch on that for a second. Um, 500 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,840 the wet fetish? What was that? What is it? No? I 501 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,519 said, the mommying one. What's the wet one? The well with a 502 00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:24,079 wet one? Hold on my screen? Just like decided to stop being a 503 00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:27,679 screen? Can you still hear me? Yep? Man, she's gone. 504 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:36,639 Oh she's recording. I'm gonna pause it, Shane. Okay, all right, 505 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:43,639 sorry technical glitch there. Um, we were talking about the mommying fetish, 506 00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:49,039 which you are a fan of. I assume I am a big fan. 507 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:55,599 Yes, Now does that extend to like diaper ring and stuff like that? 508 00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:01,280 So okay, yes, if you could explain it, Yeah, it's 509 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:07,039 okay to make fun of it as far as I'm concerned. Um, let 510 00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:12,320 me let me explain what I do like about it. So the the Avydale 511 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,639 thing, it's a couple of things. First of all, Um, you 512 00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:19,079 know, if you look at most of my partners, they don't really look 513 00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:21,519 young like. I like guys with full beards, you know, I like 514 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:28,920 really busty women. And um, part of it is an embarrassment thing, 515 00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:30,920 like I like to see them doing something like like like that they shouldn't really 516 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,360 be doing. Um. For for a while, my my husband got a 517 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,719 big bag of these like dumb dumb sucks, you know, little dumb dumb 518 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,000 suckers, and after dinner, you know, he just like comes sit on 519 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,159 the couch and he would just have one, and I just I couldn't stop 520 00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:47,480 staring at him. It was so filthy. Um. I was like, 521 00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:51,159 you're not allowed to eat those and just in the house just walking around. 522 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,360 But it was a lot of fun to watch. Um. Uh. As 523 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,880 for the thing, so, if I'm a plastic fetishist, I like rubber. 524 00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:04,119 Yeah, like latex and stuff too. Um, but yeah, I 525 00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:09,920 like the kind of plastic casing. Um. I like peepee um. If 526 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,639 you if you haven't done this yet, I highly suggest it. But if 527 00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:19,440 you get stoned and you kind of like lie back and you have your partner 528 00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:25,880 use like a really really soft makeup brush to just like rub baby powder into 529 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,400 your cock. It feels fucking amazing, and you should do it for your 530 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,440 partner to like have her just lie down, open her up and just like 531 00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:37,159 take a brush you know, a little baby powder and just brush it over 532 00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:45,400 her clip and her labia. It feels really fucking good. Yeah. I've 533 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,159 been doing that since I was a teenager. Oh well there you go. 534 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,559 Um, so so it Yes, I like it. It combines a lot 535 00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:58,159 of separate little elements that I like. And I mean, like, I 536 00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:01,159 know it's weird, and I understand if it makes people uncomfortable. You know, 537 00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:06,760 I don't like shove it in people's faces. Um. You know, 538 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,880 every serious partner that I've had has started off being like, oh, that's 539 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,800 fucking weird, that's gross, and then eventually they're like, I want to 540 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,559 try it, and they always like it, you know. And is it 541 00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:22,119 just suckers though, No, it's it's the whole experience, right, isn't 542 00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:25,400 that. I mean, you can play video games. I mean like it 543 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,639 can be anything really um and like there's sort of like a gimpy It depends. 544 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:31,440 It comes with a lot of different flavors, you know. So is 545 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:37,880 it like anything infantalizing, anything that makes them seem young? And I don't 546 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,480 want to say vulnerable, but like like innocent or or naive maybe or kind 547 00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:46,159 of like No, it's not it's not about them being innocent or naive. 548 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:53,679 It's about the because I do. I'm really my husband is like a huge 549 00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:58,079 guy, right, He's he's very big. He's got a gigantic beard. 550 00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:01,400 You know, he's muscular, he works out, um, and so just 551 00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:06,559 seeing him do and it can it doesn't have to be an abdl thing. 552 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,920 Like he genuinely does not want to wear panties. He fucking hates it. 553 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:15,039 Um. I've gotten him to do it, uh twice and it was pretty 554 00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:19,119 great because he just he looked like he didn't like it. He looked upset, 555 00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:23,119 and it just it made him look more masculine for some Okay, so 556 00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:29,480 the frustration brings out the masculinity. Okay, Yeah, it's it's not that 557 00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:31,880 they seem innocent, it's that they're kind of like a little bit angry, 558 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,199 like they don't want to be doing it, you know. Okay, like 559 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,079 they're they're genuinely humiliated by the situation. Because then it's a power thing, 560 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,920 you know. So I'm like, oh, yeah, I just you guess 561 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,000 you're oh you know, um, yeah, I like to see him in 562 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:50,159 bondage, you know. I like to just make him capitulate in any way 563 00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:52,480 that I can really um. And I like to do that too. And 564 00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:57,960 when we first started, you know, dating, he just did not understand. 565 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,639 He was like, how come you like to do things that you genuinely 566 00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:02,519 don't want to do? And I was like, I can't explain it. 567 00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:07,519 I don't know. It makes it just makes me feel like powerless, but 568 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,519 not like oh powerless, like not like Damsley. It makes me feel like, 569 00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:15,079 oh you motherfuckerre you just like it's kind of like aggressive, like really 570 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,280 okay, yeah, because powerless and okay, yeah, it's almost like you're 571 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,559 powerless to a situation and not not to like a like an act or a 572 00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:28,920 or a person. You know, it's like you're you're being vulnerable, but 573 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,360 it's too like this thing that you're attracted to, it's like this uh um. 574 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,039 And also like I think you're His aggression that really hit on it for 575 00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:45,480 me was like you like seeing him get mad about the the humiliating thing whatever 576 00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:47,920 it is. So it's like that to me, it's like you're bringing out 577 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,800 like the animal in him, you know, like the thing he can't control. 578 00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:57,000 This This one time I had him tied up actually he was in roe 579 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,480 bondage, and you know, I had like a. I had cock tight 580 00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:01,280 up too, and I had a rope coming off of it, and I 581 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,920 was like, you know, cheasing. I'm like, oh, you can't 582 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,599 fuck me, can you know you can't you're outside up. And I was 583 00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:09,880 like cheasing my clitterest, like masturbating with the rope basically, and he was 584 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,920 just like so frustrated, and you know, I could do a quick release 585 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,039 tie and so just when he was like really just like on the brink, 586 00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:19,880 I pulled the quick release out and he was free and he just fucked the 587 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,000 shit out of me and it was great, you know. So yeah, 588 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:27,039 that kind of like just like oh, you know, you know of him 589 00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:29,960 being like you know, you know, I'm gonna wear this thing for you. 590 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,960 It's really embarrassing. I really don't want to wear it. You know, 591 00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:38,840 if you tell anybody, I'll deny it. But yeah, that's I 592 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,800 like it. It's a power thing. I wonder if it's the same reason, 593 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:49,920 Like I'll put on a really awful YouTube video or a kid's video we 594 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,440 don't have kids, and I'll make my wife just watch it, and it's 595 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,800 not a sexual thing. I like to watch her annoid. It's really fun, 596 00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:00,800 like her like what the fuck are we doing? What is this? 597 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:07,480 What do I like? Not the same? But I get it. Child, 598 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:10,360 we're child listen thirty years old? Why can't we put on KIU? 599 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,719 You know what's the problem with that? You don't like watching this? Kid? 600 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,519 Just do it? And I think it's funny. I understand that. 601 00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:21,400 What is the is the term? Okay? See, I thought you were 602 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:27,360 more leaning towards and it sounds like there's kind of a mishmash of overlap. 603 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,679 Yeah, well no, no, I wouldn't say an overlap. I would 604 00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:32,960 say a mishmash of different things. You kind of threw out there, like, 605 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,920 I don't see how him wanting to eat the lollipops is necessarily the way. 606 00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:40,199 You know, he doesn't like me looking at him weird when he does 607 00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:45,360 it. Okay, fair enough. I was gonna do the term baby heading 608 00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:51,079 I have heard before. And what's that? That is when you literally are 609 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:59,280 you're the mommy and your husband there, Uh you diaper him, you um 610 00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:04,360 feed well, yes, or some from your your nurse them. That's what 611 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,559 I was going for. Um, that's a term. Well yeah, let 612 00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:10,599 me you know, let's let me spank him when he's out a line. 613 00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:17,760 Uh, baby heading. Okay, that's going too far. Uh it's an 614 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,159 expression I've heard before. I've never heard it. Oh no, but it 615 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:30,199 is it is. It is the fool this person is a baby experience. 616 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,079 Maybe they you know, you put them in a giant crib or something like 617 00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:38,320 that. The diapers. Yeah, it's not my thing, you know. 618 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:45,159 Oh I'm not in the world. Oh yeah, but I oh, okay, 619 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,480 well then I guess you answered the question. Then thank you. I 620 00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:51,280 don't know what the question was. The question was, do they is that 621 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,440 part of the fetish with this baby? Not that not for her, but 622 00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:59,599 yes, baby heading is they pissed the diaper and the mother changes them and 623 00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:02,159 this and that. What a fucking mess. So when we look so pissed 624 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,360 right now, like she likes that's kind of it. That's kind of what 625 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,639 I'm going for, Like, yeah, you don't like that, dude? 626 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,719 Is that gross? So then so then if you two were in a relate, 627 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,880 she would demand that because she knows how to get around that. Oh 628 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,840 man, So you can't ever let her know your your weakness because she'll use 629 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,760 it against you. Yeah. I'm happy to get her off. Yeah yeah. 630 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,719 Yeah. And Plus people don't understand how annoying, I can be, 631 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,440 so if you think you can annoy me into getting frustrated. Oh, we're 632 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,599 watching Kay you all night, sweetheart, That's just what we're doing. I'm 633 00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:37,280 talking to my wife here. I was like, I don't I feel like 634 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,480 if if you were and I were alone together, one of us might die. 635 00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:43,960 I don't. I don't know. Yeah me, me, It's not 636 00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:50,239 even close, so you know. Um so yeah, okay, all right, 637 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,559 Well I wanted to touch on your thing, but we're running out of 638 00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:57,239 time here. Um, Shane, we mentioned Shane's wife is a content creator. 639 00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:02,039 You wrote an article for XBIS magazine about advanced tips for making cinematic POV 640 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,440 content. I just called it tips for making POV content. They added that 641 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,679 little advanced in there, which was a little bit of an egostroke. But 642 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,199 I just want to be clear that I didn't call it that. Okay, 643 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,920 fair enough, fair enough. Yeah, Well, when they give you credit, 644 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,760 you don't necessarily have to wave it away. I mean this is these 645 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,360 are advanced tips. Um, how important. So I'm going to assume you 646 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:31,000 don't like the type of content that I like. I really like professional content 647 00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:38,199 shot that kind of looks like dog shit. So what's that mean? Not 648 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,920 actual dog shit? Um, I will tell you my favorite site going right 649 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,480 now is I'm going to give him a little plug. Maybe I can stop 650 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:52,960 paying for it. Have you ever seen glory whole swallow dot com? What 651 00:44:53,679 --> 00:45:00,320 is that? Okay? No, you see the way she reacted right there, 652 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:05,360 just pure disgusted and confusion. Yeah, that's what does it for me? 653 00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:13,320 Right? No, it is just basically it's a guy going out to 654 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,039 a glory hole shooting it. But you can hear other videos going on in 655 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:21,519 the background. It's like a guy with a high quality four K camera and 656 00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:24,360 a light. But then you know they may be part of the guys in 657 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,760 and the shoot. Maybe part of the scene may not be part like maybe 658 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,840 part of the industry may not be. It has a very real feel to 659 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:37,159 it, and it is not the prettiest cinematography amateur feel. It is not 660 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:42,519 the pictures an aesthetic you know, amateurs aren't it. It isn't a skill 661 00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:45,599 level. It's an aesthetic. That's what I think is important. Sure, 662 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:52,119 sure, I like high resolution, not necessarily the highest lighting and the best. 663 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,440 You know, shoot something in four K let me see all the dimples. 664 00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:00,039 But at the same time, you know, I don't need a beautiful 665 00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:04,480 set and stuff like that. It seems like from your article here, do 666 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,880 you notice I like candles for you? Yeah, I thought they were electric? 667 00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:15,840 No, um, so it seems like you prefer a pretty shoot, 668 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:21,639 right I do? I just okay, I Vixen is my go to. 669 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,239 I mean, they don't do like a lot of the weird stuff that I 670 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:29,880 like. But you know, yes, I like high production values. I 671 00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:31,960 I I When I say I'm a fetishist, I mean I am a fetishist, 672 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,800 you know. I like things in their perfect You want to bask in 673 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,840 it? You want to bask in it? I do. I feel like 674 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,320 it's easy to make things pretty nowadays. So I don't know why people don't 675 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:50,400 do it, but well, because sometimes so it sounds like you're more of 676 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,920 like a kill bill girl than a grindhouse girl. I don't like both, 677 00:46:54,199 --> 00:47:00,239 I can, but there's a definite the static difference between the two. No. 678 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,039 So pulp fiction, the cinematography and pulp fiction. It's not the best, 679 00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:07,320 to be honest, but it works for that story. Okay. So, 680 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,440 and as opposed to like the cinematography and Once upon a Time in Hollywood, 681 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,960 it's really sharp and slick because it's once upon a time in Hollywood, 682 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,079 you know, it's about filmmakers and all the stuff, whereas in pulp fiction 683 00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:20,800 it's pulpy, you know. So it's not like, like I said, 684 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,000 amateur is an aesthetic. So if there's a good reason for it, if 685 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:30,280 it if the filmmaking supports the storyline, oh my god, I'm so pretentious. 686 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,239 I'm so sorry. So then so then amateur girls at a glory hole. 687 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,280 Hello, it's gonna seem more aesthetically pleasing to have it a little more 688 00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:43,000 amateur. Look, it could be, but I would still want things like 689 00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:45,039 a pickup shots, and I want to like see what she's thinking. And 690 00:47:45,079 --> 00:47:51,880 I want like, you know, rudimentary character developments and everything. Character I 691 00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:57,639 like, Dick got the dude, but Marshall, I want to know what 692 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,559 are here? Yeah, the money at the end, and it's for the 693 00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:04,960 star who is not part of this amateur world we're building, this world we're 694 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,119 building. Yeah, Yeah, the girl's sucking a stick in this in this 695 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:13,440 booth like shy right, exactly what is she doing? But she's not there 696 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,159 for a check. But sometimes you might not Sometimes you might not want to 697 00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:19,880 know why she's in there. DA, it might be worse than to know 698 00:48:20,039 --> 00:48:23,639 actually the reality why that actual person is there. But you know the story 699 00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:27,159 of like you're like, oh, well she like you know, she just 700 00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:30,440 graduated college and she's like experimenting, or like she broke up with her boyfriend 701 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,440 she's trying to get back at him or something like that. That's a good 702 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,920 one. I like that one. See now you're making assisted reality TV. 703 00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:43,239 You're doing the Kardashian show me, I'm real worlds us. No, I'm 704 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,960 not not even doing a sister. I'm just doing like flat out cinema. 705 00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:50,599 Oh my god, she's talking about making a film I want. Yeah, 706 00:48:50,639 --> 00:48:52,639 and I don't care if it's like looks amateurish, but I don't really I 707 00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:55,880 don't want reality. Reality sucks. Have you been here? Have you been 708 00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,159 to reality? But? Oh not not not in the years, No, 709 00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:05,960 I have it. Um, the service has gone down in quality. Yeah. 710 00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:07,559 Uh, we are going to wrap this up, Shane. Do you 711 00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:10,559 have any additional questions for so anyway? Yeah, you wrote this great article 712 00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:15,760 about shooting things properly. Um, people should definitely check that out. I'll 713 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,159 put a link to that in the episode description. Um, Shane, any 714 00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:22,559 final questions here for Penny. Uh now, she answered my favorite one. 715 00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:25,960 I'm glad she's a pee fetishist. Sure I am. Are you are too 716 00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:29,599 right? I can't tell if you're joking. Oh yeah, totally. I 717 00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:32,719 ask every person on the on the show, and I always get mixed responses. 718 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,159 You know, um, some people love it, some people hate it, 719 00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:38,519 some people are annoyed that I asked, can I tell you one more 720 00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:42,079 like quick little story? Of course, you can. You can anything. 721 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,400 So there's there's one poor and guy that I really, well, I really 722 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,679 liked. Then I fucked him off camera and I thought, oh, it's 723 00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:52,719 gonna oh, we're gonna you know, it's gonna get weird. And you 724 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,840 know, he had a long day granted, so he just kind of like 725 00:49:57,079 --> 00:49:59,119 you know, came over fucked me. You know. He shot twice, 726 00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:01,480 which was fun but is pretty much the same kind of sex we have on 727 00:50:01,519 --> 00:50:07,199 camera. And then after we were done, he just went into the bathroom 728 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,480 and just pete in the toilet and I was just like, why would you 729 00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:15,719 do that? Oh yeah, why not on on me? Yeah? I'm 730 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:21,639 right here, you know, I'm naked. What are you doing? So? 731 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,480 Can I ask you? Is that real? Real? Quick. Is 732 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:30,719 that wasted? No? Um, is that just a taboo? Is that 733 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,320 the same thing where it's like this is an uncommon thing. It turns me 734 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,719 on? What turns you on about piss? Then? I like the warmth? 735 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,360 All right, I'm not asking you, I'm asking the pretty lady on 736 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:45,199 the camera here, I understand what do you like it warm? Okay? 737 00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:47,840 When a when a guy does it inside of you, it just feels like 738 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,880 he's just like coming, like just like so much, and so that's kind 739 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,000 of fun. You know, it's just like because you know, you can't 740 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,519 much you die. You know, we've we've all been to the drunk tank 741 00:50:58,599 --> 00:51:02,039 on a Friday. Yeah, I understand. Um, you have to stay 742 00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:07,360 over the weekend if you get arrested on a Friday generally. Um, okay, 743 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:13,199 I was implying that men had sex with me in a drunk yeah anyway, 744 00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:15,360 Um, all right, we're gonna wrap this one. All right. 745 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,960 Ladies and gentlemen. You can find miss Penny Barber on Twitter and only fans. 746 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,480 Make sure you pay for your porn at Pampered Penny and let those peas 747 00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:29,639 pop uh taboo view dot com and if you want to check out some of 748 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,440 her independent stuff that she told me, I don't necessarily have to plug, 749 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,880 but I still think you should send some clicks her way. Penny Barber films 750 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,760 dot com. Check the episode description for all the other stuff we talked about 751 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:44,000 today, and uh yeah, thank you very much for coming on with us, 752 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,119 Penny, thank you for having me. I appreciate it. For your 753 00:51:46,119 --> 00:51:54,719 worst friend, I'm Matt, I'm Shane. See you next week. Thanks 754 00:51:54,760 --> 00:52:00,360 for listening to your worst friend burn