1 00:00:01,439 --> 00:00:04,919 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of geek First Podcast. 2 00:00:05,639 --> 00:00:08,759 I am one of your hosts, the Imdama Taylor Field, and I'm 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:15,080 joined by and the priest Kirklan Patzer. Hey, I'm Dylanas, Yes, 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:21,440 and we are here to continue our wonderful trek into Halo Season two TV show. 5 00:00:22,199 --> 00:00:25,120 If you haven't watched all the episodes or listen to our reviews, you 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,199 can go catch up on all that stuff. They're all on our feeds available 7 00:00:29,239 --> 00:00:34,119 there. But before we get into the wonderful world of Halo, you can 8 00:00:34,119 --> 00:00:37,600 find us with your Internet connection in the search bar. Geek First dot ca 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,280 is our home base, geek First Cast is our Twitter, and geek First 10 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:49,280 is our Facebook going through a brain fart there. So the most important thing 11 00:00:49,359 --> 00:00:52,759 though, out of all of those, is the Patreon. And what's even 12 00:00:52,799 --> 00:00:57,880 more important than the Patreon the producers Aaron Braid in April of Darkness, Jack 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,880 Grant, MUDs, Sam and te fucking Money, money, you fucking money. 14 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,159 It's just you guys are fantastic. You all know it, and thank 15 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:12,719 you for everything you do. So without further ado, uh not for like 16 00:01:12,799 --> 00:01:17,319 segue into Halo yet? What are some shows going on. We did Dune 17 00:01:17,359 --> 00:01:23,040 review popping off an amazing side quest too that you guys did. That was 18 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,799 very fun. Yeah, x Men focused episode very good. Hell yeah, 19 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,480 Dreamcast. I was righting high after that episode. Mm hmm definitely. What 20 00:01:30,599 --> 00:01:34,760 else is is lurking? Well, just we've been doing a lot of these 21 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,760 Patreon picks recently, these movies, these retros, so I'm not great with 22 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:41,200 the release calendar. I'm more of the I do the side quest side of 23 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,760 things. But I assume some of those are all up on Patreon. How 24 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:46,959 you can listen to uh so, yeah, you can go check those out. 25 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,879 Those are fun redtros coming out, a lot of those in the in 26 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,400 the Swing as well, in the Tank, Yeah, some mad Max and 27 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,319 Plan of the apes. There's definitely some some good stuff in there. And 28 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,319 oh, maybe I shouldn't say that because I don't know if Travis has announced 29 00:02:00,319 --> 00:02:02,920 it and he likes the secrets, so maybe I'll say, like, keep 30 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:08,240 keeping secrets, keep it safe keeping his air. But yeah, Okay, 31 00:02:08,319 --> 00:02:14,360 that clears up all of that. So let's get into Halo. Now. 32 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,879 What who wants to start? Who wants to give their non spoilers this episode, 33 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:22,120 how they feel you know what, can I just uno reverse you right 34 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,319 now and go back to Taylor, Because every week of this show in the 35 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,840 discord, sometimes the night of the episode, dropping like at midnight, sometimes 36 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:32,800 the day after. Throughout the day, you are just out here dropping all 37 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:38,240 sorts of passive aggressive comments of like haters online and just sharing your general disdain 38 00:02:38,439 --> 00:02:42,319 for the Halo TV show. I think this is the first week that you 39 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,639 haven't done that. And maybe you did on Facebook or Twitter or some other 40 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,759 place. I'm not, but I have to wonder like, is were you 41 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,800 just busy today or or do you have different thoughts on this episode? Are 42 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,719 you more pond of this time around. No, that's actually that's a that's 43 00:02:55,759 --> 00:03:02,120 a really excellent deduction because I am kind of positive. Yeah. I can 44 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:06,120 tell by your lead into the episode, You're like going to this amazing journey 45 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:14,159 into the Halo. Yeah, be's this guy. Yeah yeah, No, 46 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,919 I'm definitely on the more positive side. Surprisingly, while this show absolutely does 47 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:24,520 not feel like it's it's Halo, this feels like it's more. This episode 48 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,000 especially feels more like, Okay, we've taken a step back and are kind 49 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,520 of going into an anthology aspect now of the Halo Universe, which I kind 50 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:38,479 of like this anthology kind of tangent that we're taking, but I just feel 51 00:03:38,479 --> 00:03:42,560 like maybe it's still there's so much going on, and I feel like this 52 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:46,719 episode alone has opened up a whole new can of worms that I don't feel 53 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:52,560 like they can properly with what they have left. I feel like we don't 54 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,439 have enough time to focus on these storylines, these new developing storylines. There's 55 00:03:55,439 --> 00:03:59,919 so much that has happened. Everything that we've had in the season has been 56 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,479 pretty much a lackluster letdown for me, dealing with Reach in like an episode 57 00:04:04,479 --> 00:04:08,879 and a half, and then so many other things too, with the characters 58 00:04:08,919 --> 00:04:12,360 and certain decisions. It's all been really really unfortunate. So finally when we 59 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,199 get to this episode, there's some things that I really really enjoyed, and 60 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,319 there was some character stuff that was really really hitting home for me that I 61 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:24,759 was kind of enjoying too, but I was still nitpicking it and still running 62 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:30,800 into some classical issues that I have with the show. Yeah, but all 63 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,759 in all, I'm happy that they've actually done a little bit of some stuff 64 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:39,560 here that I enjoy albeit it still feels like they've just been pulling from multiple 65 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,800 aspects of the Halo universe throughout many different titles and just mushing it all together 66 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:49,639 into one story. So that's kind of how I feel. Lovely. Yeah, 67 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:55,199 I like the bar is so low now, like week to week for 68 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,800 these episodes that when I go into it, I just I have no expectations. 69 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,319 I'm expecting like that writing. I'm expecting just a very flat story, 70 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,879 and then I'm hoping for some some nice haloisms in there. I think this 71 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:11,480 episode had some of those haloisms, h for sure, which was which was 72 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,040 a pleasant surprise. Yeah, Like a lot of the dialogue just kind of 73 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,720 fell flat flat for me. There's certain just like I don't know if the 74 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:24,360 actors are just the way that they're directed to to have like certain like reactions 75 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:27,560 and like body reactions to scenes that go on. But like I was just 76 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,079 chuckling at so many times and or sorry at so many points in this episode 77 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,319 just with a character like staring at another character, and they just it seems 78 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,600 like they just freeze, like I don't know, I don't know if they're 79 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,279 like trying to have this like dramatic thing, but it just seems like they 80 00:05:41,319 --> 00:05:44,639 like forget their line or something and they're just like they're just lost, and 81 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,959 I just I don't know, I get some humor out of that, so 82 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,639 I guess that's a positive in that sense. But for this show, it 83 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,319 like it's just it's just not a great show, you know, saying that 84 00:05:56,319 --> 00:05:59,600 week to week, which is which is not great to hear. But that's 85 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:01,920 just how I feel, and I don't really feel any different after this one. 86 00:06:03,959 --> 00:06:06,439 Like minor spoiler, it has like a cliffhanger at the end of the 87 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,199 episode, and like when it went to the cliffhanger and just rolled critis, 88 00:06:10,199 --> 00:06:13,240 I was just like, you're fucking kidding me right now, Like okay, 89 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,360 I guess so so not in an exciting way of like ooh, I'm it's 90 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,920 more so just like itilated for what's gonna come next. It's like at any 91 00:06:21,959 --> 00:06:25,759 point they like kind of get me feeling that way, they just like take 92 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,240 it away, and it's like I don't know, like I don't I'm not 93 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,240 expecting major things to come like after that moment, and I'm expecting next week 94 00:06:33,319 --> 00:06:35,560 at the very start, it's just gonna be like, oh, okay, 95 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,560 that's what happened. Like I think the build up of the suspense never really 96 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,360 is worth the weight, and and that was just like another moment that it 97 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,519 feels like, Okay, that's that's what I'm expecting. I'm expecting to be 98 00:06:46,519 --> 00:06:49,959 disappointed on the reveal there, but uh, that was a long wind winded 99 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:55,199 way of saying I'm not really loving the show, and this episode was not 100 00:06:55,199 --> 00:07:00,720 really any different. Mm hmm. Yeah. I you know, now that 101 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,439 we're nearing the end of this thing, I think I can kind of look 102 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:08,600 at it a bit more holistically now in terms of just the rollercoaster that has 103 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:11,759 been this season, not a very like up and down roller coaster, just 104 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,040 like the minor bump every once in a while. But you know, like 105 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,879 at the start of the season, as with any show, whether or not, 106 00:07:16,959 --> 00:07:19,000 like the first season or not, it's always like, Okay, what 107 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,399 is the season gonna be about? What are the new characters or the new 108 00:07:21,399 --> 00:07:25,920 storylines kind of getting introduced to stuff, And that's naturally what happened here. 109 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:29,000 And I feel very early on, right we're like, Okay, we're getting 110 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,759 towards reach, Like that's what we're aiming for, that's what the scope is 111 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,199 on, and that's what we're building up towards and then a couple episodes passed 112 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:38,639 and like we had that episode and it kind of and then we just went 113 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,120 somewhere else right like it went. It kind of just went by very quickly. 114 00:07:41,759 --> 00:07:45,800 And then after just the weaker episode that was last week, I feel 115 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,319 like that thing that I was laming for reach it's like coming gone, and 116 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,040 now I'm just like in the aftermath, I'm like an epilogue, but this 117 00:07:51,079 --> 00:07:55,720 epilogue is lasting for like half the season, so it just the pacing of 118 00:07:55,759 --> 00:07:59,600 it feels really weird. And last episode I was really really negative on If 119 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,600 you go back that episode, did not enjoy pretty much anything in it, 120 00:08:01,959 --> 00:08:05,959 and so I feel like I feel like my hype or interest has really just 121 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,040 petered out. Like there's maybe a couple embers there at the bottom of that 122 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:13,079 campfire at this point and that's about it. And there was really nothing in 123 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,879 here that stoked the flames at all. I will say, I don't think 124 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,959 I have anything that I'm particularly super harshly negative about in the way that we've 125 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,519 been throughout this whole season, but there wasn't anything here that really brought me 126 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:28,600 back into it, like damn, I can't wait for the last two episodes 127 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,800 of this show. And really, yeah, the one thing there's really just 128 00:08:31,839 --> 00:08:35,519 the one thing that I'm very negative on is is once again Pablo our main 129 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,440 character here. It's just such a frickin weak protagonist, like one of the 130 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,519 weakest I've seen in like any TV show I can remember, and I can 131 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,039 explain why I feel that way. But then yeah, the rest of the 132 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,480 stuff there's it feels like a very much like kind of like a politics episode, 133 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,120 a lot of different like side quests. It feels like everyone's in different 134 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,080 places. Whereas we talked about how last week we kind of like converged and 135 00:08:56,159 --> 00:09:00,399 everything kind of became one storyline again, and then this week, as we're 136 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,039 just shooting like a shotgun shell of just like all these different storylines going on, 137 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,720 they're all progressing like two percent, right, So like it didn't feel 138 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,879 like a whole lot happened. So yeah, not my not my favorite episode. 139 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:15,519 I really I would be shocked if there's anything in the last two that 140 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,440 can pull me back in in a big way. I mean, maybe a 141 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,440 couple of big fun action sequences set pieces, Chief gets his armor back and 142 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,720 pops off, perhaps, But even then, I don't know if I have 143 00:09:24,799 --> 00:09:28,759 it in me anymore to be too hopeful for such a thing. So so 144 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:31,240 yeah, there you go. Unfortunately, I wish I could be with you, 145 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,240 Taylor, but I'm excited to hear some of these things that you really 146 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:39,360 loved about this episode. Yeah absolutely. I mean, I'm definitely not holding 147 00:09:39,399 --> 00:09:43,600 it against anyone that you know, is like you'd taken a U turn or 148 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,480 anything. I haven't taken a U turn, but yeah, yeah, So 149 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:52,960 don't feel bad dying by any means on my account. Well I guess yeah, 150 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,440 that does it. So we're gonna take a quick ad break and then 151 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:01,120 we're gonna be back with our spoiler soots and we are back. Okay, 152 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:09,799 So where do you guys want to start? Mm hmmm, I guess we 153 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:16,399 could uh get I was gonna say, Miranda Keys, we found her. 154 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:22,000 I was just kind of expecting to never see her again, so that it 155 00:10:22,039 --> 00:10:24,200 was it was a pleasant surprise to have her in there. I was a 156 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,240 little bit like in hindsight let down that we didn't get her earlier on this 157 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:33,480 season, because that was a character I I was pretty positive on actually in 158 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:37,200 the first season. I thought her performance is pretty good and just the world 159 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,200 that she's wrapped up in was was interesting from her point of view. Uh 160 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:46,480 so it's a little bit unfortunately she just kind of was hiding, but here 161 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:50,559 she is. How Like, were you guys surprised? I was pretty surprised 162 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,679 to see her in that moment. I will admit, yeah, I'm at 163 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,600 a point where I kind of really forgot about the character. And we talked 164 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,919 about how she just had one mention and I think it was two episodes going 165 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,600 reach right, and maybe it was the start of last episode between her parents 166 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,759 there on the elevator. Was just like, she's a way that's so I 167 00:11:07,799 --> 00:11:09,559 was like, okay, well, maybe you should just not in this season, 168 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:15,399 even though it seemed like on IMDb that she was so I guess yeah, 169 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:16,840 I didn't have the expectation there. So it was it was better than 170 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:22,159 nothing, for sure, But I'm I'm I'm curious what kind of storyline they're 171 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:26,480 going to tie together that's satisfying for her just in essentially like two more episodes 172 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,279 because she only had what less than five minutes of screen time here two minutes 173 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:33,240 maybe, So I don't really know, especially with all the other stuff that's 174 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:35,759 going on, all these other characters in their storylines, and we're still freaking 175 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:39,039 looking for Kessler and all this stuff. Like I don't know how much we 176 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,720 can really get done into episodes worth, but I'm curious to see what it 177 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:48,600 is. I don't know. I guess I don't know, like where her 178 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,360 allegiance lies. Where do you guys, where do you guys think she falls 179 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:58,559 in the whole political realm of things right like relations specifically to Akerson. I 180 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:07,600 guess I feel like she's she's no reason to really be like anti or for 181 00:12:07,919 --> 00:12:11,519 Akerson, Like it's just kind of a separate entity right now because he is 182 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:18,200 the replacement of Halsey, and her and Halsey were kind of like button heads 183 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,279 multiple times in that first season, but it was mostly just because of where 184 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:26,159 they were in their positions. And now it's like, obviously Halsey is not 185 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:33,159 even with that team anymore, And I don't exactly know what Miranda's role is 186 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,360 right now in like the hierarchy of ONNY as a whole, I was really 187 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,840 confused as to just what was going on. It seems I'm assuming that was 188 00:12:41,879 --> 00:12:46,320 just like all four Runner Tech that they were looking at there, But for 189 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:52,559 her allegiance, I would imagine she's eventually going to be against Akerson and team 190 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,639 just because he's super sus And I think that's gonna come to light for pretty 191 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:01,679 much all the main characters soon enough here. But as of right now, 192 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:05,320 I really don't know, just because she's been absent and don't really know what's 193 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:11,679 been going on behind the scenes. Mm hmm, I mean she she I 194 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,000 feel like she's literally been living under a rock at this point, literally so 195 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,039 because I don't think she's gonna she's not gonna know where Dad's gone. She's 196 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:24,720 not gonna know a lot of stuff, and so, I mean, the 197 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,519 only thing that I feel like she's gonna be aware of is that Halsey was 198 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,000 kind of branded as like a fugitive, and even so, I feel like 199 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:35,159 she's just going to be so embezzled in like her research and trying to study 200 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,480 the Shield world, She's not gonna really have much of an understanding of really 201 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:41,399 what's going on out in the outside world, like, oh my god, 202 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,799 reach fell what maybe something like that. Maybe I'm kind of hearing her, 203 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:52,960 Maybe I'm not giving her enough credit character, Yeah, it's crazy. It 204 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,279 just feels like she's just just with her popping out of nowhere. Like this, 205 00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:58,279 I just really wasn't expecting it, and it just seems so kind of 206 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,440 at a place from me. But I'm happy to see her and her loyalties 207 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,679 though. I mean, you got Perengosky, who seems like she's really the 208 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,639 main ultimate bad guy, and it's making it seem like Akerson is not even 209 00:14:11,639 --> 00:14:13,639 really the bad guy, but Perengosky was the one that was making is making 210 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,759 him kind of like the bad guy. So yeah, where where does Miranda's 211 00:14:18,919 --> 00:14:20,559 loyalties lie? That's a good question, And I just feel like we need 212 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:28,960 to see a little bit more to really make that determine deduction. So I 213 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,600 feel like when she finds out that her dad's dead and maybe they'll learns the 214 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,440 truth about them just ditching Reach, that she'll she'll be like, Halsey, 215 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:41,480 I'm mom with you because as of right now, like Halsey knows all of 216 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,639 that stuff right, Like if we just had an extended scene, she probably 217 00:14:43,679 --> 00:14:48,759 could have just told her that, But maybe that's not the height of her 218 00:14:48,919 --> 00:14:54,320 motivation right now, like tell her about Reach falling or and like Onnye's decision 219 00:14:54,399 --> 00:15:01,159 to just like abandon Reach right like that whole Sussery of taking away the chief 220 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,159 and cruise armor and just just leaving them to get get glass. And she's 221 00:15:05,159 --> 00:15:09,080 one of the few people that actually saw her dad get killed too, Right, 222 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,720 So that's probably gonna a conversation at some point because I think that's it's 223 00:15:11,759 --> 00:15:16,600 fitting that the two are connected. Yeah, I got cooked. Yeah, 224 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:22,440 sister, I guess daughter. Yeah. In terms of the I don't know 225 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:26,759 lore or pulling from books or games and whatnot, how do you feel about 226 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:31,440 what she's up to, Taylor? Like, is that relate to any storyline 227 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,240 you're used to her from and any of the other doesn't make any sense? 228 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:37,600 Any sense? What about like what she was working on? Like is that 229 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:41,240 a thing in the games? Like it seemed pretty thing? The thing? 230 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:48,480 Well last week, how off track they went with specifically her character and her 231 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:52,120 dad, right, exceptionally off track, Like, she's not a scientist in 232 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:56,480 the games or the books either, Like, and in that canon, she 233 00:15:56,799 --> 00:16:03,240 is a UNSC military officer and she's following her father's footsteps, and her role 234 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,679 is literally after the events of Halo one and Halo two, she's introduced and 235 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,080 she basically leads one of the defensive forces on Earth, and then they basically 236 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:18,519 charge in and she plays a huge role with the Arc and Halo three and 237 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,919 activating the Halo rings from the Arc and the profits taking her host. It's 238 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,759 just so much going on with her character, and so here she's just playing 239 00:16:26,799 --> 00:16:30,440 scientist. She was definitely not involved in the Ghost of ONEX book. The 240 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,960 whole facility of the Forerunners that's on on X that they're inspecting, that's definitely 241 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,039 pulled from the book. So this it makes sense. But that's where for 242 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:45,919 me it's very weird because this show is they're talking about Halo and you see 243 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:48,600 an image of it, but that's it. I feel like this is supposed 244 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,919 to be matter Chief's story supposed to be focusing on that Halo ring and getting 245 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,919 there, but we're not getting that. Now we're drifting off to the next 246 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,440 stage of Spartans and what's going on in on X. Now everyone's going to 247 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:07,599 be shifting their attention away from the key artifacts between McKey and Chief, and 248 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,119 they're gonna be focused on like, oh, how to Quan not explode on 249 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,279 impact when she fell on the well and what's this like vault right, Like, 250 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,160 yeah, the things we should be focusing on. Yeah, it's the 251 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,920 important stuff. So new questions, right, and that's where I feel like 252 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:29,079 all of these new storylines that have been introduced. Then did they confirm a 253 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,279 season three? I don't know. They probably did, but I just feel 254 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:33,359 like there's so much stuff going on now that's just let me take a look. 255 00:17:34,039 --> 00:17:37,400 It just blows my mind that they expect people to follow all of these 256 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,799 side tangents. Yeah, because I heard after last I think it was last 257 00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:47,039 week's episode, you were mentioning how they like want to it seems like we're 258 00:17:47,079 --> 00:17:48,960 going in that direction of some ghost of Bonic stuff. And I've heard great 259 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,799 things, like phenomenal things from you and others about that novel, So like, 260 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,799 oh yeah, the fact that this episode was just called Onyx, I 261 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,440 was I was a little bit worried for like, you know, like you 262 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,519 and people that are like really knowing these stories going into it, because I'm 263 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:04,319 just like, I know nothing about this, but I'm assuming this is going 264 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,039 to be butchered horribly, And I mean, like the whole thing with like 265 00:18:08,039 --> 00:18:12,160 the Spartan threes. You were mentioning that again last in last week's episode, 266 00:18:12,279 --> 00:18:17,279 just like I guess, like, is that a big portion of that book? 267 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,920 Ghosvonyx it's a big portion. And that's again like Onyx was chosen as 268 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,279 the base to start the Spartan three program, and again I was by Akerson, 269 00:18:25,319 --> 00:18:29,440 and they kidnapped and abducted a Spartan two called Kurt and he was basically 270 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,559 training the Spartan threes with Pitty. Officer Mendez was another character, And so 271 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,160 there's a lot of a lot of similarities here. Of course you have Kai 272 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:44,440 who seems willing to go and train. Yeah, and the Spartan Spartan threes 273 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,799 are basically supposed to be orphans, are supposed to be people that were from 274 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,480 destroyed worlds that don't have really anywhere to go, but they have a hatred 275 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:55,279 in this fuel, like you know, let's just go let's yeah, let's 276 00:18:55,279 --> 00:18:57,759 sign me up, let's go fight. And they were meant to be more 277 00:18:57,799 --> 00:19:02,759 expendable. And so I think, I like that's one of the story Nartors 278 00:19:02,759 --> 00:19:06,000 that actually liked because when they complete their mission, it was just the simulation 279 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,160 was over. And I feel like there's many ways you could interpret that. 280 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,200 You can interpret that as Akerson like they played out that he said it so 281 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,599 that they would have a w they'd have to win. They could feel good 282 00:19:14,599 --> 00:19:17,720 and they could go on, but whereas I I kind of felt and see 283 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,920 it. They they did the mission, but when everything kind of shut down 284 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,519 the simulation, and Perez was kind of feeling uneasy about it. It's because 285 00:19:26,519 --> 00:19:29,960 they're not supposed to walk away alive from that mission. Like they were going 286 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:33,759 through a mission and your chances are you're going to die, and it's you're 287 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:36,920 expendable. But they don't know that. They're just they have to think about 288 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,000 getting and completing their goal. Mm hm, that makes sense. Were you 289 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:44,839 guys? I was really thrown off when Perez was there. I was so 290 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,920 shocked. I thought it was like a flashback or a dream sequence. I 291 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,279 was so shocked from where she was, like seeing keys just get crisped like 292 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,720 bear, like being so ptsd from losing her crew from earlier on in the 293 00:19:56,759 --> 00:20:02,079 season and losing her family. She just seemed like such a broken down character. 294 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,960 And then like just like the scene of her, I thought she was 295 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,880 like an ODST trooper for a second, I was like, man, like, 296 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,200 what is going on here? And then it's just combat. She's like 297 00:20:11,279 --> 00:20:15,519 diving into a Covenant ship. I was so confused when the simulation like ended, 298 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:18,920 I was even more confused because like, what the fuck is going on? 299 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,160 She's just being trained to be a spartan like what happened to the other 300 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,920 people on her ship, So yeah, you're not alone. Yeah, highly 301 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,799 highly confusing for me. I feel like I don't know. I wonder if 302 00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:32,200 there was a scene cut in like at it was supposed to be maybe towards 303 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,799 the end of that episode when she goes off splits off from Chief there, 304 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,359 and maybe they just took it out because with the climax climax that we were 305 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,200 building to at Reach, maybe didn't really make sense or it took away from 306 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,599 it. But it just felt like a really weird pivot for me, and 307 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,599 one that doesn't really make sense for the character either, after she bonded with 308 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,519 Chief in this in this sequence, So I don't know. Maybe it just 309 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:56,359 feels like anything in this season is kind of like no one really knows what 310 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,559 Akerson is up to or that he's a bad guy, except for like he's 311 00:21:00,599 --> 00:21:03,160 the only person who who seemed to know or have any sort of way of 312 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,359 conceptualizing such a thing. So maybe she's in the same camp of being brainwashed. 313 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,640 I can't remember exactly every dialogue seeing she had with Chiefs in that episode 314 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,519 and if that would turn her perspective, but it felt it felt really weird 315 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:18,680 for me. And then honestly, any sequence with her, like I don't 316 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,640 know, the first time they get to the simulation and she's like, that 317 00:21:21,759 --> 00:21:25,799 was bullshit there. There shouldn't have been a covenant behind us there that snuck 318 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,680 up on us. I'm like, what are you talking about? Like this, 319 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,200 You're you're going talking about going into a covenant ship and there's it's not 320 00:21:32,319 --> 00:21:36,599 conceivable too that a covenant would could pop up behind you or something. The 321 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,400 whole thing felt like really fake drama to me, like in a reality show 322 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,880 and they just yea, the producers plant some random storyline and these bad actors 323 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:45,880 have to go along. And it felt like that was like, what are 324 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,759 we talking about here? Oh man? Yeah, that's like what I was 325 00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:52,920 saying earlier, where like just some of the dialogue amongst characters, I'm just 326 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,960 like semi shock that I'm seeing it, But it's also just on par for 327 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:02,920 the course. And there was one particular moment when Kai she just jumps in 328 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,240 the simulation too. I guess just punish herself, right, because she wasn't 329 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:08,400 there on reach and like maybe this could be touching for some people, because 330 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,480 you know, like she wasn't able to stay behind and like help her comrades. 331 00:22:11,519 --> 00:22:15,440 But she's like in there, and then she turns around and it's literally 332 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,519 just Acreson like standing there wearing regular clothes, and I would like, I 333 00:22:18,559 --> 00:22:22,480 don't know, I get it's a simulation, but it just like shocked me 334 00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:26,440 and I just I burst out laughing. It's so funny him just being like 335 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:30,440 standing there, arms cross like pause simulation. They just like have a conversation. 336 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,559 I don't know. It's just super corey to me. And then later 337 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:40,480 on when Kai is again just in the simulation room, I guess it's like 338 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,759 they equiv into their danger room from X Men, but she's in there. 339 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,599 She's like about to spike the ship, and then Acresson's just like in there 340 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,400 talking with her again. That's when she kind of gets the somewhat truth from 341 00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:55,759 him there, and then they're like having a heated conversation and she's like in 342 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,720 simulation and then she just like leaks up from her chair and then Acresson's right 343 00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:03,319 across from and just like gets up out of his chair and they just continue 344 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:07,799 the conversation, and I'm like, this is so fucking corny. But however, 345 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,240 directed this episode thought that was the coolest thing ever too. They'll keep 346 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,559 going in the real world, though. I just find it so funny that, 347 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,359 like, yeah, like Akerson to like have these conversations like, Oh, 348 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,920 I'm just gonna look for an open chair, get in there, get 349 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,920 all comfortable. I don't know, it's just a little bit funny to me. 350 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,839 What do you guys think about the action of those simulated sequences outside of 351 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:37,680 the corniness of the actual story purposes of it. For the most part, 352 00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:41,160 across the show, Like I always praise the action sequences because I think it 353 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,039 always looks good. But in this particular one, I don't know if it 354 00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:47,640 was just me, but it and maybe it was because it was a simulation 355 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,279 or they're trying to do this like Iron Man cam on Perez a lot of 356 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:53,960 the time, it just seemed like I couldn't really see what was going on. 357 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,400 I don't know if I'm alone in that sense. It was just really 358 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,480 dark and like the blast Fire, shaky cam and very quick shots. So 359 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,960 yeah, I was with you on that and it's like, yeah, really 360 00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:07,119 dark on the ship. But there's just a lot of reasons where it was 361 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,039 very weird looking. Once again, the gun, like the gun flash, 362 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:18,400 like when it just looks so like and like on the Battle of Reach when 363 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,279 they were getting like plasted by plasma shots, like it just it seemed gooey 364 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,200 and plasma, whereas this is just like, yeah, they're just getting shot 365 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,519 by something, and it's almost like the predators hunting them, like it's just 366 00:24:27,559 --> 00:24:33,119 invisible enemies. I was super I don't know, looking forward to to some 367 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,079 good Covenant design because they like they can definitely do that. I've seen it 368 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,960 multiple times in the show, and even in this episode there's there's some there's 369 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:45,720 some good good looking elites with some energy swords. I yeah, I really 370 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:48,279 liked the opening of the the first one. I mean I was very confused 371 00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:51,400 that like where the hell were we? I like, what is this time 372 00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:53,680 jump? Or like where are we? But like that initial signals when they 373 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,400 all jump out of the ship and just like the fear on her face was 374 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,279 actually really believable, Like man jumping into like deep space like that, especially 375 00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:04,000 if it's like your first time doing that must be terrifying, like flying down 376 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,720 being the what was it the Covenant corvette, right is what those are called? 377 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,319 Really really cool? So I like that initial sequence, but kind of 378 00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:15,200 went downhill once once we got on the ship. For me, yeah, 379 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:22,119 I was trying to figure it out because again skipping over an episode to to 380 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,400 not really show that that bridge of her transition to this moment is really kind 381 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,279 of weird, like how does she get recruited? How did she get connected 382 00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:33,359 with Onyx? Onyx is supposed to be a very secret facility, but nonetheless, 383 00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:36,640 my mind immediately goes to she's on the transport ship with all the civilians. 384 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,119 It just opens up the fucking bay and I'm like, what are you 385 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,039 doing? You got all these cities in there, and like are you gonna 386 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:44,400 get blown up? But all of a sudden she's got this decked out Spartan 387 00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:47,319 armor. But I also thought it like is this odscs that are like boarding 388 00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:51,319 the ship raising their guns, Like what is going on? Uh? But 389 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,400 all in all, very very cool sequence. I thought it was fantastic seeing 390 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,279 them jump out of the ship. That's something that we've seen Master Chief do 391 00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:00,839 in the games many times. Of course we can to see Chief do it. 392 00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:03,759 It was the Spartan threes, but we can't always win all of our 393 00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:07,880 battles. I do think it would have been Pablo, not him, even 394 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:15,519 though it's like how would you hold his breath? Then you can do it? 395 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:22,799 Oh my god. Just with the Spartan threes and their their combat there, 396 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:27,039 they get lit up the first few tries, and then uh Kai is 397 00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:32,680 giving them a pep top and explain explaining how like she could she could take 398 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,880 out an elite twenty five hundred yards, but like she wouldn't be able to 399 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,839 get like a bunch of bees or something, and like that just becomes like 400 00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:44,799 they're simple, it seems because like you now, oh my gosh, you 401 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,119 wish you were a bee. Those lines were just they're cracking me up. 402 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,440 And then fast forward to like a later simulation. It's probably the last one 403 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,519 when they actually win, but uh they're like yeah, go ahead, and 404 00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:57,400 then like there's that one guy in the back that's just like b B guys. 405 00:26:59,079 --> 00:27:03,279 These guys, I just was laughing so hard, like it just seems 406 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,279 so corny and not Halo at all in those moments, but uh, you 407 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:11,720 know that definitely sounds like some ant man humor or something like that. BPS 408 00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:17,640 guys like come on, I don't remember that line from Hare never showing that 409 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,200 out. I'm in a military situation. I'm never showing that out to you 410 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,599 guys. Maybe how can they not register that? Like they're literally just cannon 411 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,759 fodder, Like yeah, like it were better in numbers as they're just all 412 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:32,480 getting lit up as they try and destroy this one ship over and over again. 413 00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:36,119 But I don't know, they're they're kind of goofy. They kind of 414 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,359 reminded me of like a little bit of Starship Trooper vibes, which just how 415 00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:45,559 corny some of them were, Like a cameraman in there, exactly, the 416 00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:52,799 only good covenant is a dead covenant. Question about Onyx? So sorry, 417 00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:53,759 Onyx? Is the name of the planet? Is the name of this like 418 00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:59,519 facility? Name of the planet? Okay? And so I guess like last 419 00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:02,359 episode in that town we're hanging out, was that that was on Onyx. 420 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,319 Presumably no am I forgetting something that happened the end of the last episode. 421 00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:10,319 How they got here? How they found this place? Uh? I think 422 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:18,680 they alluded to it briefly with Peregovsky talking to Akerson that a ship snuck through 423 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:22,480 their like first of all, the ship they were found, but the ship 424 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:26,400 managed to get through their clearance or something through their their systems, and they 425 00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,559 know that that would be Halsey that's responsible for that, okay, And so 426 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:36,640 who who of Halsey and Chief and this crew would have known about Would it 427 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,039 been Halsey that would know because she when they're in the mines of Mariia, 428 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,200 she's talking about how she practically lived down there and she knew who all the 429 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:48,160 stuff was and all that. So and two like it was, it was 430 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,400 tricky to kind of figure this out because I think they changed the storyline again. 431 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,400 They were talking about how this is like where Spartan's come to train and 432 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,240 all that kind of stuff. At least that's how Soren puts it. And 433 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:06,160 then but to my knowledge, because you have you have Spartans that are supposed 434 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,200 to be trained on Reach, that's where the Spartan twos were trained, but 435 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,599 sore And is acting like they were trained here by the way he's talking about 436 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,759 certain things, which doesn't make sense because when they're asking Chief, like what 437 00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:21,200 do you know about about on X, He's like, whispers, you knows 438 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,440 maps? You know? Thought I thought he's gonna say ghosts. I was 439 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:30,359 waiting for him to say ghosts. He's very very mischievous about his response. 440 00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:37,960 That's kind of funny. Let's see I uh okay, let me let me 441 00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:45,839 rag on our boy Pablo. Also just like this character, like what what? 442 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,200 I'm just so curious, like what is the intention with this character? 443 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,880 Like are we supposed to have such a high amount of respect for this character 444 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,519 and love and reverence that no matter what, we just love him and think 445 00:29:55,559 --> 00:30:00,000 he's so badass and cool because he just seems like such a dumb aw dufus 446 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,640 in this show, Like once again he's going around messing up all these troops 447 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,640 and he gets caught again, Like how many times this season has he been 448 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,160 captured? And like how many times does he break out of capture? Because 449 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:15,559 these people are too stupid to like realize you need to tie him down, 450 00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:18,559 Like he just seems like such a fumbling idiot that he breaks out of here, 451 00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:23,759 but then also makes the the antagonist feel stupid because they don't lock him 452 00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:27,319 down correctly. Then I also just like what was his plan? Was he 453 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,519 like without any weapon, without any armor? Once again, bring up the 454 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,400 armor? Was he just planning I'm busting in this facility? He thought he's 455 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,799 gonna be able to do it all on his own once again, he didn't 456 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:38,559 even have a gun because he took that other guy's gun, So what the 457 00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:41,519 hell was his plan? Like, I was he trying to get captured and 458 00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:45,279 taken in and he was gonna bust out again. It's like that's seems really 459 00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:48,599 risky. But I like, I don't understand what I'm supposed to feel with 460 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,400 this character, and it's really bothering me. I completely agree with what you're 461 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,359 saying when he when he opens up like the I think it's after he escapes 462 00:30:56,519 --> 00:31:00,799 captivity when Akerson shows like the security tape to Kai and he's just like he 463 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,039 like opens up the door and he's like sneaking through the fucking main facility. 464 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:10,079 It's like this like seven foot tall man that like he's literally his posters of 465 00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:12,119 him everywhere. Everybody knows who this guy is. Everybody knows that he's like 466 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,880 on the planet on the field, like they're on red alert, and he's 467 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:21,000 just like fumbling through the hallways like man. It's so it's like a mister 468 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:25,119 Bean type sequence. It's like you have this character that should not be should 469 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,799 not be able to sneak through this area with with how much everybody's after him 470 00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:30,920 and and he just does because that's that's just how it works, I guess. 471 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,920 But for his like motivation, I really don't know. At this point, 472 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,240 it's just like vengeance. Like he's just he's like he's like John Wick. 473 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:45,480 He's after Paringosky and he's gonna just take around no matter what it is, 474 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,240 Like I I don't know. Like by the end of it, it 475 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:53,079 seems like he's going for the what are they called y, Yeah, the 476 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,480 artifact. Yeah, he just he's like he's like a drug act or something. 477 00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:00,599 He just wants another hit of that artifact juice that makes him I feel 478 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,519 all trippy like that. That's what his motivation is, it seems like at 479 00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:09,720 this point. And then yeah, Cortana whispering sweet things into his you see, 480 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,240 Oh my gosh, it's like his reactions to Cartana. It's like, 481 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,160 oh my old flame, Like, oh, I missed you so much Cartana, 482 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,759 Like just just when she is interacting with him, and when he's strutting 483 00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:25,960 through the facility and the door's just opening and he's just like he's just walking 484 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,279 through there, like Chris Hamsworth and Bad Times with el Royale, with like 485 00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:34,160 just just smiling, He's waving at like the people working there. I'm like, 486 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,279 what the fuck is going on here? But yeah, when that door 487 00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:40,359 closes, a little wave with the guy. I got Cartana. Now we're 488 00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:47,359 gonna fuck behind these doors. I did enjoy the like him just kind of 489 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,039 like walking through and like all the doors are unlocking and closing, and Krtana 490 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,359 was helping him with that. But the way he's just he's staring and watching 491 00:32:55,359 --> 00:33:00,559 everyone smiling, Like I just don't like his his facial response to all of 492 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:02,039 this stuff in the situation. Like if you put him in armor, I 493 00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:06,200 feel like it changes the whole tone of this scene. I think it becomes 494 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,240 okay, this man is like the Master Chief is like is scary and like 495 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:15,440 it's it's crazy just how he's just walking through this the way. I would 496 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:22,200 love that, But the one it's just Bablo and he's not even really smiling. 497 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,160 He just waves at the guy. It's just it's weird. But I 498 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,519 think that to answer your question, Dylan, I think him getting captured was 499 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:36,160 intentional because then it's easier for him to get inside the facility. And just 500 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,559 how he fucked those guys up was crazy. That was super crazy like his 501 00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:44,440 a little restraint, whipped it around the guy's neck and pulled him halfway across 502 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,599 the room. There's blood all over the wall when the guy's head smacked into 503 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,680 it, So he killed that man pretty much. But but yeah, like 504 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:57,880 I agree though too that they don't really take a lot of care and securing 505 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:04,279 him because after uh, when he when he did that, and then it 506 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,400 cuts to like when he does the escape, and then it shows that it 507 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,039 was all recorded on this this hologram or whatever, and then you see Akerson 508 00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:14,000 and Kai. Akerson is like, yeah, this is an hour ago. 509 00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:19,039 It's like, why he waited an hour? It's like that's a long time. 510 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,079 He's been around your base for an hour. And then it goes kicking 511 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:28,400 down that door while you're watching this fuck an hour long footage, like and 512 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,960 then it goes to obviously Kai and that was in my notes. I hate 513 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,039 seeing these spartan twos go up against Chief because it's not in their character. 514 00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:37,000 And while she showed her strain, she still kicked the shit out of him, 515 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,920 and they wouldn't do that. It's Chief, So needless to say, 516 00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:45,719 she knocks him out and then she leaves and just leaves him there. I 517 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,760 mean the man could get up, which he did. What do you do? 518 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,320 He got up and he went to the fucking came to an Ackerson say 519 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,719 actions like what we said the black Black Ops squad, because that's gonna do 520 00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:00,800 ship all too where she's like, you're all banged up, you don't have 521 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,599 your armor, just once again, like griderating it so often, the freaking 522 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,079 armor thing, like they should just leave it alone and realize that US fans 523 00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:12,880 are never gonna be happy with that decision. So, I mean, I 524 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,440 don't know. Maybe the people on the REDIT are are praising I don't know, 525 00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:19,239 Taylor, you don want to browse. But no, the people are 526 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,719 saying like, oh, great episode, can't wait to see when Master she 527 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,159 gets a suit back in the next episode. Stuff like that. Just mumbo 528 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,280 jumble. But like they reiterated it again because he's telling Kai the truth. 529 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,239 He's like, yeah, they took our suits. Kai got killed. It's 530 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,559 just wild, wild shit. I feel like she'd even really react to Vantage. 531 00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:44,880 She was just like, what about rais? Yeah, more curious aloof 532 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,440 at that point too. I guess she thought Chief was you know, Akerston 533 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,079 planted the seeds in her head that Chief was still working with McKee, and 534 00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:57,239 Chief is now part of the Covenant, and so she hears that Vanik died. 535 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,960 Is that Chief that really did that? Or like, what's what's the 536 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:06,000 catch here? Right? It's it's a bullshit plan, I mean, because 537 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,159 you can tell Chief was trying to figure it out the truth. I do 538 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:12,760 feel bad for Kai. I mean, this must be a difficult situation to 539 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,840 navigate. I mean, this guy is someone you've looked up to, trusted, 540 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,320 one of your best friends, and he lies to you several times, 541 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,960 you think he's dead. He comes back, he tells your other friend is 542 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,320 definitely dead. He's not dead, and then Akerson's out here on the other 543 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,079 side. Just yeah, the devil on your shoulder, the angel on your 544 00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,519 other shoulder, that kind of thing. I feel for Kai to to some 545 00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:37,400 extent, But I don't know, your your squad hates you, your pupils 546 00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:47,639 no respect. Yeah with uh uh Kai like confronting Chief in that moment of 547 00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:52,280 like accusing him of being sided with with McKee. I don't know. It's 548 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,599 just like just that like back and forth. Like I hate putting it on 549 00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:00,719 the actors, but like I I feel like that could have been a better 550 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,280 scene even with the dialogue that was there, I wasn't really emotionally attached to 551 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,360 it. I feel like because of what's been shown in this show, I've 552 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:15,599 never like fully been like a super fan of like all all all the Silver 553 00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:19,760 teams just chemistry amongst each other. I think it peaked in that first episode 554 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,239 and then kind of fizzled out, like first episode of season one, like 555 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,000 literally at the start of the show, and ever since then, it's been 556 00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:30,800 lower. The fact that Kai just kind of like did we see her leave? 557 00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:34,480 Like on Reach, because I like, in hindsight, I was trying 558 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,760 to remember, like while I was watching this, I was trying to remember 559 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,239 how she deviated from everyone and how she just got into the position she I 560 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,480 don't think we ever, Actually I don't think we saw it, because I 561 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,159 think we talked about that on the review, but we I think it was 562 00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:51,920 still it was somewhat clear though, because I seem to remember that we assume 563 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,760 she was off with Afterson, But right, yeah, I don't think there 564 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,679 was an actual shot of it. And like on Taylor's point of like for 565 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:04,760 you, it's just so crazy to just see like other like Spartan two's like 566 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,119 going against Chief here I feel like it's even more insane to have like Kai 567 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:14,119 in that role because and like maybe it's supposed to be super emotional intense because 568 00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:16,840 she has been like the most loyal out of everyone to Chief. It's just 569 00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:22,000 it seemed like last season like she was the first one to take the chip 570 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,920 out right, and like really like that, like that's like that's that's a 571 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:35,239 major scene. Yeah, exactly, like all like all of that, it 572 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,280 just seems like it didn't happen with how she's reacting here. And maybe from 573 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:44,079 a show runner perspective, you can make arguments like, well that that's just 574 00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:46,320 the hard the hardships that she's going through having to make these hard decisions, 575 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:52,840 but personally, I feel like maybe I either haven't seen those decisions really really 576 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:58,280 made or made well enough for me to palate, and uh so when it 577 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,000 got to the point of her confronting them, there is just I don't know, 578 00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:06,440 like I don't have much major attachment for that. And it's you know, 579 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,119 it's like one of those things where like all of Silver Team, they 580 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:13,000 should all be very close, and they should all have like a dynamic as 581 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,400 a group, and then each of them should also have their very specific connections 582 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,639 between them, and we kind of see that with Chief and the rest of 583 00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:22,280 them, except for like Chief and Vanic. I can't even really recall like 584 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,800 big scenes between them other than like maybe his death or something like that, 585 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,679 but we kind of get that, but we don't really have those dynamics between 586 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,239 like Kai. I can't think of a single scene between Kai and Vanic. 587 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,960 I'm sure it happened in season one, but I don't think we got anything 588 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,360 here, right, So it's like kind of so distant in my mind that 589 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,280 I can't remember these scenes. So it's like, I don't know, that 590 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,679 should be an emotional, interesting scene when we get it here, but it 591 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,039 just it doesn't really work because we don't really have that specific connection, even 592 00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:54,239 though it's assumed to be pretty strong. I mean, she didn't just ditch 593 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,239 Chief, right, she ditched all of them when she went her way, 594 00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:05,119 yea, So we have factor that into Yeah. I mean, I think 595 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,840 you hit that on the head there, because we really don't see much more 596 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,880 between Vanik and Chief, So that's definitely a downside. But Kai being the 597 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,519 one that has to I guess bring him in. I guess they're trying to 598 00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:22,039 add more weight by as you mentioned kirklun just having those simulations and they're trying 599 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:27,760 to really add the mental toll on her for leaving everyone behind and all that 600 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,679 jazz. But like, yeah, I'm still so bitter about how they handled 601 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:36,360 Reach. It's supposed to be like a week's long situation, but it was 602 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,039 over and done within twenty four hours. And you see one little city get 603 00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:43,119 destroyed, but really it's the whole planet we're supposed to believe. I don't 604 00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:46,599 know, Yeah, pretty crazy, it's fair. Should we move on to 605 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:52,239 McKee? Yeah, well, let's jump to a quick ad break and then 606 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:58,559 let's fucking ma key it up and we're back. He loves a good ad 607 00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:04,000 break, I think she does. Yeah, Man, McKee and the Arbiter, 608 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,320 I don't like hate what's going on with that, with that uh that 609 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,079 crew, But when the when it's when it opened up and I just see 610 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,960 Arbiter no shirt on, like going to do like a punishment thing on himself, 611 00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:22,039 a ritual thing, but like it's just like like a top up shot 612 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:23,760 of him just like like basically naked, and in my mind, I'm like, 613 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,760 oh my god, they're gonna do it. We had master cheeks last 614 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:34,559 season. We're gonna get master Arbiter cheeks. Like That's where my mind went. 615 00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:36,639 So I was like, no way, no way, we're gonna have 616 00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:38,559 a zoom out shot. It's gonna be bare ass arbiter. They're actually doing 617 00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:42,599 it here, it didn't happen. Part of me kind of wanted it just 618 00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:45,039 for the meme, but I'm curious, what is what his cheeks would look 619 00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:50,840 like a special site. At first, I didn't even know what that was. 620 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,000 Like, I know in Halo, it must be Halo too, right, 621 00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:57,880 Like the Arbiter has no armor on when he gets branded, and there's 622 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,559 probably other shots of those elite with no armor on, but it just it 623 00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:05,199 looked so strange to me. I'm like, what creature is is this here? 624 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,760 And also you couldn't really see the mouth at the time. It was 625 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,559 just like the silhouette of it. I'm like, it's a whole new alien. 626 00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:15,679 But yeah, the Arbiter and their there little mission there to find the 627 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:22,760 Halo it and like, from the Arbiter's perspective, just give me some clarify 628 00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:25,360 clarification here, Like he thinks that it was the High Arcs that like showed 629 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,320 them that vision, right, and like it's this is part of the mission 630 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:35,239 to like basically just go away from what's it called High Charity to to find 631 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,920 the Halo or or like like what happened there, because it happened in last 632 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,920 week's episode when they're when they're going to High Charity and then just the Halo 633 00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:45,719 Ring pops up and then that's what really deviates their mission to get out of 634 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,599 there. Yeah, so I feel like seeing the Halo Ring, obviously you 635 00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:52,599 have McKee and Arbiter that see that, and McKee was trying to plead with 636 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,920 Arbiter to kind of let's go out, let's find the ring. We're gonna 637 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,119 do it. And I feel like that's because she knows that if she she 638 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:04,400 goes up against the hierarchs, she's not going to be able to plead her 639 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,320 case anymore because for whatever reason, she can't use her ability to touch the 640 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,679 artifact and activate it anymore. And I feel like that's some of the profits 641 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,079 that want her to do and if she kind of goes out there front and 642 00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:20,119 center, it'll be exposed that she doesn't have that power anymore because I'm assuming 643 00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:22,440 she lost her virginity or something and she can't use it anymore us, because 644 00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:28,480 I have no other reason why to suspect she has lost that ability. So 645 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,840 keeping it kind of one on one here and even Kurtana kind of helping fuel 646 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,039 the fire a little bit to arbiter and make him think, oh my God, 647 00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:38,719 like yeah, McKee, you have the power here, and really kind 648 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,320 of convince the arbiter to kind of defect against the hierarchs. I think that 649 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,960 you have this this priest here, who his name is. I think his 650 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,639 first name was like udo im Dama, which I thought he was related to 651 00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:54,599 another elite and Halo five Guardians juelim Dama, who is like the that's a 652 00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:58,400 whole other story, but he becomes like a Storm Covenant leader. Very cool 653 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:05,159 character, but they're not really name Yeah, no kidding. So you have 654 00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:10,400 this priest who's not buying into the ship that McKee's spinning, but obviously the 655 00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:17,679 arbiter is, and that whole kind of twist allegiances and infighting. I'm a 656 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,880 sucker for that. And you see that happen many times at the Covenant, 657 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:28,159 whether it is like the Banished or it is the the the Elite rebellion kind 658 00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:30,239 of stuff like that that's going on. There's so many different things that are 659 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,440 happening. And so when you see this briefly and the arbter is talking like 660 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,400 my brothers who choose to follow like the true way, and he just turns 661 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,519 and just fucking like kills the one a lead. I was eating all this 662 00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:44,360 shit up and I hate them. I was actually enjoying this because I don't 663 00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:45,800 I was eating that up too, though, because like it looked cool. 664 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:52,960 We had multiple energy swords popping off the endoma care like the priests, Like 665 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,719 do they have priests like that, like throughout the Halo series, like with 666 00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,039 the Red Cloak they have. I've never seen one like that in a Red 667 00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:04,400 Coach before. I mean, there's different types that hold different positions in the 668 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,159 Council and with the Hierarchs and stuff like that. But just to see him 669 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:12,079 like this, it was really that's something new that I'm not familiar with. 670 00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:15,159 Maybe it's in the extended books and comics that I've never I've not read yet, 671 00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,320 but he was super cool. He was like sass like the design, 672 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,000 Yeah, you have the mini like energy sore with him. I liked it. 673 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:23,840 He he had some sith Lord energy too with that hood on. I 674 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:30,440 quite liked it. Yeah, I I'm I guess one thing I feel weird 675 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:36,440 about with the Covenant is it kind of it feels very small scale to some 676 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,639 extent, because we have these scenes where they're glassing planets and whatnot, but 677 00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:43,400 it's not like we're really seeing, like we're just kind of singing the beams 678 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,480 shot down. We had that one shot that I can remember where like all 679 00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:50,119 those Covenant ships like rising through the fog. I think that was an episode 680 00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:52,679 one maybe, And so at some points we are seeing like the scale of 681 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,800 it, but then most of it is like scenes like this where there's like 682 00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:00,199 Max ten to fifteen in a room hanging out, and so I like this 683 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,400 idea that there's factions kind of in between them. That is something that's inherently 684 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,639 interesting. But I don't know. I guess I haven't been given enough content 685 00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:12,679 from either side, and I don't have that scale yet, and it's hard 686 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,360 for me to kind of differentiate between some of these Leak characters, Like I 687 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,960 know, I can tell who Arbiter is at this point and this other guy, 688 00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:21,239 but like I don't know anyone else, So I don't know, it's 689 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,119 hard for me to really feel like, Okay, I understand both sides of 690 00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:29,119 this argument. Fully, it's really just like I don't know the Arbiters with 691 00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:31,000 McKee and the other people aren't. And that's kind of the extent that I 692 00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:36,480 feel like I'm invested in the story at this point. So I will say 693 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,440 that this is a very interesting point to leave off the episode, not just 694 00:46:39,559 --> 00:46:44,360 for the artifacts, and that's a very cliffhangary thing. Also, I mean 695 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,000 McKee is like touching it too, so like, what is that gonna do 696 00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:50,079 for powers? Is it because chiefs touching it at the same time, presumably 697 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,679 that will activate our powers and kick it into motion again, I'm assuming that's 698 00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:57,880 something to do with it. But also just like from assuming the end of 699 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,320 this fight is like Arbiter and McKee are the only ones left and Arbor killed 700 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,480 all of them. I don't know if there's multiple factions within there, if 701 00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:08,800 it was just Arbiter killing all the other ones, but I that's compelling to 702 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,920 see like what those two factions are looking like after this altercation and what it 703 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:20,039 leads to going forward. I don't know the idea that like Arbiter and McKee 704 00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:22,519 could be like these lone wolves who are going off to find the Halo on 705 00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:24,280 their own or maybe that's not what it is. Like I feel like I 706 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,159 once again I don't have like all the info there to make a decision yet, 707 00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:31,960 but I think it's a it's a decent setup for next week, and 708 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,280 we have a couple episodes left, Like I hope we get more of this 709 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,440 Covenant stuff because I think it is to me a lot more compelling than like 710 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,480 whatever the hell Kwon's doing in the show right now, And like I don't 711 00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:46,559 care about Kessler and finding Kessler, Like I would happily cut some of those 712 00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:51,400 sides, those other side storylines to get more of this Covenant stuff. So 713 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,719 I know that's inherently those shots are gonna be a lot more expensive because of 714 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,360 all the CGI to just do those scenes. But I hope we can see 715 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,360 a little bit more of it in the next couple of weeks, because yeah, 716 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,639 it was a fun a couple of sequences here we had in this episode. 717 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,360 Yeah, no, I I completely agree. I think anytime that we 718 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:13,440 can maybe peer more into the Covenant lens and just just figure out more so 719 00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:16,480 what's going on with them, I would take that over Soren and his wife 720 00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:20,639 looking for the child. I like, just every time that they went to 721 00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:22,480 them. I'm just like, I feel like I can pull up my phone 722 00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:25,800 now and just like not really pay attention because I just do not care about 723 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,599 those characters, you know, like of course, you know, parents missing 724 00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:35,079 their son. I feel like that is an emotional tie, but for for 725 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,800 where it lies in this show, it's just it's not something I'm interested at 726 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:44,880 all. And man like I keep forgetting about Kwanha and like this this like 727 00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:50,239 shaman character that she's that she's like just chasing like every time it goes to 728 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,480 him, like is that Halsey, Like like who is that? And then 729 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,599 it shows like the old Woman. I'm like, all right, laws, 730 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,840 like she never met the old Woman. It doesn't make any sense why she 731 00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:02,880 would be seeing there. Oh just you Waite Taylor. It'll be revealed. 732 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,599 It'll be revealed in the finale. She's gonna she's gonna kill the arbiter. 733 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,480 One of those things that doesn't feel like, you know, it's not the 734 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,960 A plot, B plot, c D. It's like a Z plot. 735 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,039 It's like so weirdly like disconnected from everything else going on in this show so 736 00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:21,639 far. So hopefully in some way they tie it together or just give its 737 00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:23,880 own satisfying arc. So even if it is out existing on its own and 738 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,840 at least connects in some way, but it's weird because it just feels so 739 00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:31,840 unhalo like and yeah, it's not really seemingly connected to our main plot or 740 00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:36,280 B plot any of the other plots in any way. So it's a really 741 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,239 weird inclusion. I mean, I thankfully at least there wasn't a ton of 742 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,599 it a ton of it this week in terms of screen time. But I 743 00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:44,880 don't know. I don't know what they're gonna wrap up in two episodes in 744 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:52,719 that one either. Yeah, I don't know anything else that we mentioned. 745 00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:57,320 I got a few few notes. I got one to One other line that 746 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,719 I just scratch of my head on was when here and Goosky and Ackerson are 747 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:06,519 just conversing and she's just like talking about tea like from eod food again and 748 00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:09,519 like goes off about like how like the method of how it got from like 749 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,400 Earth to here, and then she finishes off as like, yeah, this 750 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,519 was made lab on level four and I'm just like the dialogue of the show. 751 00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:20,800 It just seems like they're really trying to like like tantalize us with some 752 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,840 great one on one dialogue between two characters, and they just always fall flat 753 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,039 for me, and that whole substance with the tea did not work. And 754 00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:31,599 she does weird flex too, because then she's kind of like Agresson's like, 755 00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:35,039 oh when she tells the truth. But then she's like, but you know, 756 00:50:35,559 --> 00:50:37,199 I told them to make it here. You know, you want to 757 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,960 know why. It's like, what are you fucking hinting at? Just weird 758 00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:45,480 like power tripping and all of her all of her dialogue. Yeah, and 759 00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:50,199 maybe that's what it is. They're just trying to make her seem intimidating or 760 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,000 something like that, and they're like, well, we don't have any other 761 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,239 actual like content for her to talk about, so let's just make it about 762 00:50:54,320 --> 00:51:04,559 fucking food. I guess that's relatable. I can't stand it. Kessler turned 763 00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:07,599 being turned into Spartan. That's an interesting dynamic. And it's funny because my 764 00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:10,000 brother in law he text he texted me on Tuesdays like Taylor, I figured 765 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,960 it out. Kessler is gonna be taking He loves the show. He fucking 766 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:19,840 loves I see him at Family Shocked. I don't know. I don't think 767 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,280 he does. I'm sorry for our negativity. I know, I know. 768 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,239 I try to be I try to be positive because he genuinely just loves the 769 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,400 show. And so when I see him at our family dinners every week, 770 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,480 he's like, oh, what a great episode, What a great episode. 771 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,599 I'm just biting my teeth, like I'm so glad you enjoyed it, Like 772 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,760 wear are the suits? I try to throw a little bit in there. 773 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,800 I like that you change it to biting my teeth instead of biting my tongue. 774 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:49,159 And I like that. But he predicted that dinner. You're just like 775 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:55,280 staring at him. There's no but he predicted. On Tuesday, he texted 776 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,199 me while at work. He's like, Taylor figured out Kessler. The Uns 777 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,360 got him there. I'm gonna do a Spartan. Soren's gonna go in there 778 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,800 and boom like big battle. And I'm like, oh, well I didn't. 779 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,960 I didn't text him right away, And sure enough I watched the episode, 780 00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:12,480 like many, He's fucking right. They got Castler, bitch did it? 781 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,840 I like that. It was a Tuesday text. It was like the 782 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,199 whole week. He's like racking his brain, like God, what could it 783 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,800 be. He's got like all his charts and like grab a whiteboard, writing 784 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,400 all these wires, like I got it, I figured it out. It's 785 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,239 great for him. I'm glad. I'm glad he's enjoying it. He's enjoying 786 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,480 it. Yeah, I wrote this, and I quote, so Kwan is 787 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,119 out fucking gallivanting on a military planette. That's what I wrote. As I'm 788 00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:42,360 quoting myself, there's a quote from the show. I'm like, no, 789 00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:46,920 I had a big problem with her just walking out and she's by She's just 790 00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:50,880 yeah, gallivant. Take all of a sudden, these these guys start just 791 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,719 shooting like no tomorrow at her. So she's very like she shouldn't get head 792 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:58,119 shot. Said that was soalthy. That was another scene I was just laughing 793 00:52:58,119 --> 00:53:00,800 at because it's like it seems like they were they were trying to have like 794 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,960 this old woman that she's seeing these visions of like it's leading her somewhere, 795 00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:08,960 and then she sees these soldiers come in and it's like okay, like the 796 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,360 old lady warned me, I'm gonna go tell the rest of my crew. 797 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,840 And that is not what happened, because the next scene, like they're just 798 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,000 like open firing on her. I'm like, oh, my god, she 799 00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:22,079 did not use like that advantage that she had to an advantage at all. 800 00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:25,119 She just oh, yeah, they're coming, they're coming. Oh they see 801 00:53:25,159 --> 00:53:29,119 me. Okay, I'm gonna run now. It was just I didn't really 802 00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:34,199 understand the point of that except for just to start action. And that's yeah, 803 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,519 that's a good reminder that, like, if we think about this crew 804 00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:39,679 that all teamed up in the last episode after all this shit that went down 805 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:45,079 at Reach, it's pretty funny how like how quickly they pivot this episode, 806 00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:47,800 where within like the first five minutes episode, after the after the sequence with 807 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,320 Kai, they're like, Oh, where'd Halls you go? They're like, 808 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,920 oh, yeah, she's gone. It's like, oh, okay, I 809 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,320 guess halls he's gone. And then yeah, at some point she was just 810 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,559 like, oh yeah, you guys go look for Kesser. I'm gonna go 811 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,719 do something. And then he goes off the Onyx based Kuan's like miles away 812 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,199 at this point, so like they just immediately split up, have no plan. 813 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,400 I assume they have no way to communicate with each other either, no, 814 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,000 you know, a rally point if there's an emergency. It's just like 815 00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:14,239 such a shit show in terms of their game plans here, they're not helping 816 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,119 each other out in any way. And like when when Kuan goes down the 817 00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:22,000 well and like meets Halsey, they're they're they're going through like the darkness there 818 00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:27,079 for a little bit, and she's she's saying to Kwan like like you just 819 00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:30,559 re really changed Chief, like he was never the same after he met you. 820 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,159 And they keep coming back to like I guess it's supposed to be like 821 00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:37,280 a strong connection and bond amongst those two characters, but like they've had almost 822 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:42,920 no screen time together and like no real dialogue even when they meet, like 823 00:54:43,159 --> 00:54:50,840 uh yeah, it was just last last week's episode, like just no effort, 824 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,239 and like, I I don't know. It's like looking back on the 825 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:59,440 show, I feel like Kwan's inclusion into like the main story that's going on 826 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:04,639 with Chief and like those characters, it deviated so much with especially just the 827 00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:08,239 inclusion of I don't know this this woman that she keeps seeing And we'll see 828 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,719 how they how they tie it back, you know, by by the end 829 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:19,440 of this season, and I guess just going forward. Yeah, another note 830 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,599 I got, uh Soren referenced Battle of Thermopoli when his wife's like Sword, 831 00:55:23,639 --> 00:55:25,960 what's going on? What is this place? And Sore is out to lunch 832 00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:31,519 like Thermopoli. That's that's the reference to what they used to show the Spartan 833 00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:38,840 two's was the Battle against three hundred Spartans against the invading forces, the Battle 834 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,679 Thermopoli, the Little Last Stand. You know. Check out that Zack Snyder 835 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,440 movie. It looks like I don't know if it's accurate, but on IMDb 836 00:55:47,519 --> 00:55:52,639 it says next week's episode is titled Thermopoli. Really okay, suits confirmed? 837 00:55:55,079 --> 00:56:02,320 No suits says right there, do not expect suits. Yeah, door closed. 838 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,760 When the guard shot it, Chief as he approached, she gave him 839 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:12,559 a wave and then oh yeah. So this this made me laugh because when 840 00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:16,320 Kai was fighting Pablo fighting Chief and like had him down and Chief just kept 841 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:22,320 getting back up. Immediately he was channeling his his Batman dark Knight voice, 842 00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:30,639 like the Christian Bale like dark Knight voice, because he's he gets up like 843 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,480 where's the girl that up with? What's on the other side of the gun, 844 00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:40,400 Like he's full Batman here. It was really funny. Get Ludy too 845 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,800 and just beating on him. He's just like bleeding and like smiling like he 846 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,079 literally is like the Joker or something like just the super villain. The subtitles 847 00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:52,639 said, laughs, so he was laughing at this point too. Goddamn. 848 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,599 Yeah, Cortana just like cheese. And then no, I guess we know 849 00:56:55,639 --> 00:57:00,559 too that Kuortana is I guess the sleeper cell. So Parangoski wanted her to 850 00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:05,239 be working under cover with the Covenant to kind of like feed them secrets and 851 00:57:07,159 --> 00:57:12,360 yeah, and like maybe this was discussed last season. I can't quite remember, 852 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,679 but like with Cortana, is she just like is she a santient being 853 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,960 like she's just a super AI that can think for herself, because like, 854 00:57:19,239 --> 00:57:21,960 does she have her own allegiances? Because right now it seems like she's just 855 00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:25,679 Team Chief all the way. And then she's doing her duty for Parangosky, 856 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,599 which in turn is having her like kind of a double agent with McKee, 857 00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:32,679 right and the Covenant. But then because like as soon as that's over, 858 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,159 she's like, is my duty to you over? And it just seems like 859 00:57:36,199 --> 00:57:38,719 she wants to run to Chief, although I guess by that point she's kind 860 00:57:38,719 --> 00:57:44,159 of already with Cheap Chief. I'm trying to remember the order of sequences there. 861 00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:46,239 I thought she was distracting Parangosky, so she could kind of join up 862 00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:52,920 with Chief that Yeah, but yeah, it's hard. It's hard to say, 863 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,559 and there's it's definitely out there in the games and the books, the 864 00:57:55,639 --> 00:58:00,239 level of like intelligence that Cortina has. As far as AIS go, she's 865 00:58:00,239 --> 00:58:05,000 definitely one of a kind. She's I put her ahead of every other AI 866 00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:12,559 because she was made with brain tissue from Halsey, So that's definitely a canon 867 00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:15,679 factor. But at this point in time, we should be seeing other ais. 868 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,719 There were, there were a lot more other ais, and then AI 869 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,199 started popping up all over the place after the fact. But it's just it's 870 00:58:22,199 --> 00:58:24,639 weird that she's the only one. I'd like to see some other ones that 871 00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:30,199 have appeared too, and and whatnot. But yeah, she she was She's 872 00:58:30,239 --> 00:58:36,039 designed for Chief. And that's something you learned too, very briefly, least 873 00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:40,280 in Halo five Guardians, is that they developed these AI systems to help with 874 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:51,679 Spartan's socialize socio social pathic like they lack social skills, they do not have 875 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,320 the proper means of that kind of like social connection with people, and so 876 00:58:55,679 --> 00:59:00,840 the AIS were able to serve as a method of them having that social companionship 877 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,360 to kind of help keep them more combat efficient and and and so forth. 878 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,320 But no, we got a fucking pill in their neck. That's the alternative. 879 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,920 So do you think, uh, do you think she was whispering the 880 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,199 chiefs or in chief's chief's ear to like get wave with them, like like 881 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:20,239 do that right now? Yeah, smile while you do it. Yeah. 882 00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:23,480 I forget was the was because I remember us talking to last season about that, 883 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:28,920 that bit about Halsey's brain tissue being part of cortonas and way, is 884 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,679 that was that confirmed in the show or is that something you're just pointing from 885 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:36,719 the canon. I believe that was in season one when they because they had 886 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,559 the clone right, it was a flash clone of herself that they used to 887 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,960 I do remember that being covered at least uh yeah, yeah in the live 888 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,519 action mm hmmm, yeah, just it. It gets to a point where, 889 00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:51,400 you know, we talk about this show as much as who spend time 890 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,360 watching it, and so sometimes I may be mistaken, like Taylor filling me 891 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,519 in with lower stuff for like what actually happens in the show. True that 892 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,800 the sound pretty familiar. Now, so the law is better, The law 893 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:07,480 is better, but yeah, anything else you guys got I think that wraps 894 01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:10,760 us up. That's all for me, That is all for me. Well, 895 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,360 we'll be back next week fighting alongside Chief and Arbiter at Thermopylis, So 896 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:22,400 stay tuned. We'll see you next week and have a good one. Bye bye bye