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It's the two seventeen Recovery Podcast with
Corey Winfield. If you kind of look

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deeper at the situation, you know, which I'm sure you will, because

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everything that we go through is an
experience that we learned from. And Justin

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Burke, I come right in.
I am very sneaky about it. You'll

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be talking to someone and I'll just
come in and sit at my desk and

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just bust one out real quick.
It is the third of January twenty twenty

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four, almost that twenty three,
but I'm going to do it. It

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is the two seventeen Recovery Podcast from
the North Studio and Justin Burke is joining

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me. How are you justin fabulous? Are you fabulous though compared to this

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morning? Yes, I am doing
much better, okay, because you're you're

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feeling a little better, looking a
little better. But this morning, man,

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it looked like you might have had
some COVID four. Yeah I felt

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like it. Yeah. I think
I had a little COVID five point oh

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last week or a couple weeks ago, right week before Christmas, because like

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one thing, when I had COVID
the first two times that my wife Martie,

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I love you to death, gave
me because she got it from her

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work, I think, and then
they gave it to me, So I

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appreciate that. And one thing I
noticed, man, is I would have

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walked down a flight of stairs and
just be out of breath like now walking

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up, just walking down. And
I had the same out of breathless after

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walking up some stairs at the crib
the other day, and I was like,

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man, and gd COVID five point
oh got my ass and I tested

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myself for COVID, but it was
that stuff that Biden sent out, which

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was like leftover from Trump's so it
wasn't even working. Like I didn't pick

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up my COVID five point zho and
think about it. We were talking about

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it yesterday because we were all like, man, we all felt like crap.

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We all had this thing. One
of the signs of having COVID was

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they would take your temperature right yeah, before you walk in anywhere, like

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let me get your temperature, and
you'd be like, okay, Well,

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if I was gonna make three point
oh four point oh five point oh COVID,

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I would make sure that it was
undetectable. So I would be in

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the little lab with my little beakers
and I'd be likeop, boop, little

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aspirin in there, boop, little
aspirin in there then and then send it

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out. That's what I would do. That's what I would do if I

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was like an evil chemist. So
it deflates the fever. Yeah, so

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that way, boom, there's no
way to detect it. And then boom

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they're a little stupid little Pfizer tests. They don't work. No more boom.

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Now what back to another pandemic?
Mm hmm. COVID money is two

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point zero Mmm. Well see they
said they you can do no more COVID

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moneys. Yeah. And the only
reason why they did COVID money was because

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the rich people wanted us to pay
them rent exactly. And the banks want

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they money, and they all want
they money. It's all about money.

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Justin once you found out today,
Yeah, because you took your little happy

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ass, because I told you it
was like, hey, man, go

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up to that store that sells the
drugs over there, the red w want

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to go to them they sell Okay, go in there, get you some.

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You have to get that stuff that
you have to take to the counter,

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because that's the stuff that you need
and that's gonna make you feel better.

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It's gonna like open up your sinuses
and you know, do that good's

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good on your face, face and
your headhead. So you go up in

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there and you follow your boys directions
and you go in there, and what

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happened justin So I go in there
and all the good stuff is behind the

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counter now, which I guess it
has been for a couple of years.

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So I tell them what's going on. I'm like, you know, I

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just need some really good decongestion to
relieve this sinus panem in and she goes,

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so, what one do you want? We have multiples. I was

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like, just give me a basic, twelve hour one, cheap one,

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you know, I don't need a
big pack, nothing elaborate. And she

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goes, okay, she brings up
to the counter scans it rings it in.

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Oh I need to see your ID
scans. My idea says got yo,

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Eh, you've exceeded your daily limit
of this medication. And I'm like,

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I don't even buy this. How
can I exceed it? We'll let

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me check again. Comes back says
the same thing, got all your asses.

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I was so heartbroken at that moment. Wow, because see you in

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your previous life that you were living
at hardcore gangster shit you got had going

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on. You use methamphetamines, yeah, and that was one of your charges.

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It's possession of it. Yeah,
possession of meth fetamines less than twenty

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five grams. You've never made it, no, never try to make it.

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Nope and boom, now you're blackbald
from getting the medicine. Yep,

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So no suitor fed for me.
Yeah, well no, you still got

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it because you know a guy who
knows a guy who can go get it.

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Yeah. But me, I just
can't go to the counter and purchase

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it myself, right, don't even
know how to make it. It's a

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kitty litter and some a bunch of
other crap you don't want to know about.

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But that's what I've heard anyway.
But yeah, Like, and I

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think they've moved away from the Suda
fed thing a long time ago. Maybe

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maybe not, I don't know,
but it's kind of messed up. And

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Marnie came in the office and saw
the suit of fed on my desk,

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allegedly was on my desk, and
she's like, you better hide that.

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I was like, I know,
and I kind of told her about your

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situation. And I was like,
you know, that's kind of messed up.

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You know, that'd be like saying
if someone gets a drunk driving that

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I can never go buy alcohol again. It should be the same across the

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board. Oh, it would save
so many lives. It would save the

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person who's having a problem, it
would save their life. It would save

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people from being in accidents, crashes, it's called them. But that's that's

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asi, that's that's cool because because
it gets text, the government's making too

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much money off it, right,
because the government makes money off it when

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it's made. They make money off
it when it's sold, They make money

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off it when you get arrested,
They make money off it when people die.

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Yeah, all wrong, it's still
some money maker. They make money

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off it. Where as you,
you dirty meth guy, Nope, Nope,

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you just can't have access to that. You know. I could see

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if I was still on probation or
something, I wouldn't be allowed to have

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it. Well, I'm not on
probation, you know. I got off

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early for role model behaviors what they
called it. I was working at a

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treatment center, just doing good for
myself, and here I am still getting

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kicked in the shin like you just
can't have this six days away from your

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four years. Yeah, that's that's
nope, you can't buy it. And

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some people would say, well,
no, that's not the same with all

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Corey, that's not the same.
You know, they would they would have

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to stop you from making alcohol,
right, Well, they would do that

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too, you know, like if
you could just go to the store and

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buy some meth, then you caught
some charges. Okay, now you can't

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buy a meth anymore, but now
you still can't go out and buy su

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fed, so they would still make
it. But alcohol, you can make

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potatoes, like I mean, pretty
much anything. Yeah, it's so it

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would be very very hard, and
he starts any sugar to stop someone from

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making it. But you know,
it's it's one of those things, man,

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that really makes you kind of raise
your eyebrow. You know, there

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was a guy in Michigan or a
lady or whoever in Michigan. Somebody just

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want the lottery. That lotto got
that lot of money and it's like eight

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hundred million or something, and if
they want to just take the lump sum,

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it's four hundred million. So just
keep track of the missing millions,

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Okay, so eight hundred million,
that's the that's the jackpot of all the

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people that put in the money,
and goes up to here eight hundred million.

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Okay, Now, if you take
the cash option, which you give

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you right away, half so they
just took half just by you wanting your

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money today, the money that you
won, you wanting it today, you're

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only going to get half of it. And then you still got to pay

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taxes on them. Yeah, so
you're really only going to get maybe maybe

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two hundred million if you're lucky.
So where's the six hundred million going?

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Who knows? State? It's not
fixing roads, schools aren't getting better.

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No, I think I could fix
a lot of schools with six hundred million

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dollars. That's just the one lottery. That's just the one, right.

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How many others went down, you
know? And some people say, oh,

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you got to split that money with
other states, and blah blah blah

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blah blah blah blah. The state's
getting a cut, man, They're getting

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get cut every time you buy a
ticket, and every time they tell you

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it's going to the schools, it's
going to the roads. I'm tired of

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that shit, and I'm tired of
politicians half assed and shit just so that

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they can have jobs later. It's
like the roads. I'm tired, tired,

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and I know people in Michigan you're
tired too, tired of the f

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in construction all the f in time. Do you know that they could fix

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the roads where they wouldn't have to
touch them again for like sixty years,

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But they don't because they're like,
that's great jobs. How about we give

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better jobs to people? And how
many time you pass a construction site somebody

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just standing on a sign, you
think that person feels like really like like

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he has a purpose in life.
No, no, no, he's probably

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got an addiction. Who knows.
I'm not going that far with it,

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but I'm just saying, like,
that job sucks, and I'll just say

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it right now. I don't care
if they're getting thirty dollars an hour and

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standing there holding the fucking slow sign
with a little walkie talking. Okay,

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I'm sorry, your job sucks.
Everybody just mean mugging you on the way.

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No, why don't we just fix
the damn roads? Like for real.

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I'm not even mentioning the governor's name
because she's not worth it to me,

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but her little thing was fixed the
down road. No, but really

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fix them, yeah, you know, put hey, you know what,

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put a little heater in them.
You know, they got that technology too.

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Make sure there's no ice, you
know, like, do it really

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good, and them people will be
having jobs because we're fixing all the damn

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roads, not just the highway.
We'll just fix them all. We're actually

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going to create more jobs. And
then sixty years we'll do it again.

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You know. But instead they half
assid they get these horrible companies to do

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it, to bid whoever BID's the
lowest, highest, whoever knows who in

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office or whoever does this, and
that they're the ones who get it.

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And it just drives me nuts.
Man. I'm just fing tired of it.

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It's just like the whole system is
just to just to screw people over.

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Man. Would you hear about their
row construction plan for next year for

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Travers City. No, they're shutting
down Parkway m for like all summer,

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separate during cherry Fest. Do redo
it, don't come to Traverse City.

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I don't think it's the Human Rights
Commissioner. I'm allowed to say that,

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but I don't really care. I
really don't you know, like the construction

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here is just gonna be horrible.
Man, the roads of traffic in the

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summer is just a nightmare. Yep, it's not fun. And then to

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back it up even more and reroute
it to all the side streets. Yeah.

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I feel sorry for those residents who
pay less than taxes to not deal

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with the traffic, and now they're
going to deal with traffic. Also be

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working from home, dog, Oh
yeah, you have to go in the

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traffic and drive people into places,
unfortunately. But I enjoy my job though.

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Yeah, and let's talk positive stuff. It's very rewarding. Yes.

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Oh, we forgot to mention in
at the beginning of the podcast. We

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have a very special guest who wants
to make an appearance today. But I

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don't have the other third microphone hooked
up, so I'm gonna actually let all

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right, the person used my microphone. Doesn't look like they're coming in here

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just yet, but when they do, I'll just have to, you know,

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scooch out of the way and let
them talk. They wanted to talk

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about a misconception or something like.
I don't I don't even know what they

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were talking about, but we'll know
very soon. But yes, your job,

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you do love it and you help
people. And we just got some

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coins that we ordered, that's what
they say in America ordered, and we

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thought it'd be a great idea because
we could put our website on there and

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a lot of times you hands won
a business card. It can go in

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a pocket and then right into the
trash, you know, when they need

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it, they're like, oh damn, you know, I really wanted to

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call them, but there's so many
resources at two seventeen recovery dot com that

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we're just like, hey, we'll
give them a coin, which is pretty

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cool. Yeah, and it has
a map of Michigan on it, and

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it has like a star where we
are in Traverse City, and then it

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has fun and recovery because that's what
we're about exactly, and bitching about the

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government. Yeah, but that was
too long to put on the coin.

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But then yeah, it has our
website on at two seventeen recovery dot com.

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So we're like, man, we'll
give that out and to give it

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to people like when they get out
of treatment, you know, when we

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take them home, you know,
like give them a little pep talk and

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you know, do what we do
with our recovery, coaching, training and

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all that that jazz, and then
sometimes even one around the way to treatment

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if we can tell the person's like
sad and feeling shame and guilt, because

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there's a lot of that that goes
on, but like to incorporate into like

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our at least that's what I did
when I would drive people. You know,

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it's just like try to get a
moving forward, trying to get their

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brain moving forward to like what's next, you know, like the stuff in

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the past, the stuff that you've
told your mom or family or girlfriend,

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your wife, whatever. You can't
change that, but you can change it

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right now moving forward with what you
do, you know, and then give

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them a coin and be like,
hey man, your journey starts now,

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you know, Like remember to have
fun and recovery and if you ever need

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anything, there's a website. I
actually talk to the client I took today

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about that because he was going back
to treatment, and he said something about

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having to rebuild relationships and takes time. I was like, yeah, sometimes

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it does take time. It was
this Christmas marks like nineteen twenty years since

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I have been at my aunt's house
during Christmas time. A lot of it

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was probably due to my own addiction, maybe my smart little mouth when I

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was younger, but you know,
I mean it all wraps into each other.

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You know. I put a lot
of negative energy out there, and

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you know it took time. You
know, Like you said, I'm almost

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four years sober and I finally just
got invited back, you know, so

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it feels great to finally get those
relationships back. My uncle ashtu to talk

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to me about my job when I
was at his house. I actually took

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a caring note to what I was
actually doing with my life, which was

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absolutely amazing. You know, Normally
he just says hi, by see you

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later, and I didn't get that
response. It's nice. Yeah, it

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feels good. It did and people
can get that. And I know a

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lot of people out there are struggling. It's hard. I don't want to

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do it. I don't know what
to do. I've done this before and

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had a guy tell me that yesterday
when I went to the detox to talk

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and he's like, yeah, man, but I've been this and I've tried

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that. I was like, apparently
you didn't try everything, Like there's something

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in there. And this is what
hit me at one point was the relationship

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with my father, like I had
to. I had to repair that,

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had confront it. I had to
understand it from his point of view,

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you know, Like I remember like
a mean text that I had sent him

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one of the last times I talked
to him before I went years when I'm

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talking to him and I was like, dude, how could you have because

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I at that time no children.
Now I got a baby boy on the

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way and they can't wait. Yeah
yeah, but at that time, no

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children, no marriage. Thought I
was going to die drunk, and I

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thought, how are you going to
have two sons? And you just walked

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away from us? You know.
That was one of the things I told

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him, you know, but I
had to understand, and I had to

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talk to him as an adult,
as a man, not as a drunk,

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not reacting to situations, but just
like, help me understand that,

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yeah, you know, to his
side of the story. And he could

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have been like f off and I
would have been like, all right,

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cool, you know, but but
to hear you know, yeah, like

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you said, his side of the
story. Now, does that make it

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right? Does that heal all the
wounds? No? But it can help

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me move forward. And one of
the letters that I wrote him was like,

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I don't know if we're going to
have a father son relationship. I

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don't know if we're just going to
text each other and say, hey,

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what's up. Have birthday? I
have no idea what we're going to do,

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but I would like some sort of
relationship with you. You know,

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you are my father and whatever happened
to happen. But just like all the

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dumb shit I did in the past, I can't change that. And he's

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not perfect either. He's a human. Yeah, we're all human. So

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you know, how about a little
forgiveness and how about a little understanding and

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then to move forward. Whether his
reason to me was legit or not,

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you know, that doesn't matter.
But the fact that I had to face

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it and confront it and that really
helped me move forward with my recovery,

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I believe, because there was something
in there that was keeping me stuck.

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And probably some of here trauma too, yeah, the abandonment issues, you

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know, to feel like I never
really had a dad. My stepdad's great,

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but he's not that dad. He's
not you know, my father,

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my biological father, you know,
And to have that bond with somebody,

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you know, I just feel like
I missed something. But now, like

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I said, I can set it
up moving forward with this. This is

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what I have now, and when
my son is born, I can do

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my damnedest to make sure that I'm
there for him. You know, in

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the perfect world, i'd sit here
and be like, oh, yeah,

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Martie and I we're gonna die together
at one hundred and forty five years old.

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Sounds good old, But you never
know, you know, you never

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know what's going to happen. And
she could be like, where, I'm

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tired of your ass, get out, Like, no, I got right

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married. You're getting rid of me
that easy? But but no, you

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know, it's like, but I
want to be there for my son,

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and I want to, you know, do things with my son, and

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I don't know, I just can't
wait, you know, to get in

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there and change diapers and just watch
a little person grow up. That's so

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yeah. I enjoyed it. You
know. When I first got sober,

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I was like, you know,
I'd like to have another one, to

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be able to do it all over
again, do it the right way this

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time, and then, like,
I don't know, within like the past

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year or so, I was like
maybe not like my daughter's thirteen. Now,

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maybe I don't want to be tied
back down. You know, I'm

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not saying that you're never not tied
down after they turn Eighteen's ridiculous because they're

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still gonna need you. They're still
gonna need stuff. But you know,

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they're typically not living in your home. They moved on to college trying to

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become a person themselves, and you're
still trying to guide him. Or they're

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living at home with a couple of
kids. Maybe never know, Grandpa justin,

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oh triplets, don't put that on
me. He had to see his

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face. It just is like his
jaw dropped and he's like the fear look

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of fear was on his face.
But speaking of fear, we do have

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our guests. We're gonna welcome in
and she's been on the podcast before you

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maybe you'll recognize her, maybe not, but I'm gonna get out of the

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way and make way for our guest, Susan. Welcome Susan. Everybody.

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How you doing today, Susan ain't
justin? What's up? J dog?

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Amen? How are you doing?
A little suit of fed not buying and

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effort? You got jokes? Then
I'm going fabulous? Yeah, hell of

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jokes. But now, man,
i'm'a here cause I want to clear the

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air. I heard some speculating going
on by my existence in the two seventeen

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recovery center. Yeah, how's that? Yeah, well you were kind of

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here the day that I will hell
you call my ass? You got me

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any Corny? He said, come
here, little mouse, I'm gonna squish

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your little guts out. And ain't
Corey saved me? He said, justin,

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just put him in the trash can. I'm gonna go get it.

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Get a little house for the mouse. Yeah. Yeah, I love Cory.

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He's pretty cool. But when I
showed up here, y'all thought I

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was living in your walls or something, right, Yeah yeah, I said,

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uh, wasn't your white idiots?
You fat white guys and cracked me

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up. Yeah. So what happened
was how I got caught was I came

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cause I was tired of living where
I was living. See. So what

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I did justin is I saw this
lady. She had this like big old

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bag that she didn't use for gym
stuff, but she just took it with

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her wherever she went. And I
was only like six days old, and

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I seen her take this bag everywhere, and she come back to me with

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good like food and nuts. So
I said, I'm gonna get up in

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that bag and I'm gonna go see
where these food and nuts is. So

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I creeped in that bag, I
got down rich fo me myself lived anymouse,

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and then then I hid and then
I hid, and then there was

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some big loud mur I think that's
what they called the bus. So I

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knew I was going places right because
I was on the bus. That's when

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you know you made it. So
I get up in here and I start

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smelling good stuff and nuts and I
jump out that MFM bag and then I

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just hid in the corner. And
then I waited for everybody to leave because

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they was talking about recovery and all
kinds of stuff for like an hour,

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and I said, how long I
waited in that corner? And then that

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uh one fat oh Cory, Yeah, the fat white guy, he came

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in and he was looking for something. They was trying to fix a camera

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or something, and he said,
oh my god, he screamed, my

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good girls up here. Then really
there's a mouse, Mitch hell. And

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then big Mitch comes in. I'm
like, oh, they get bigger,

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So that, my guy, this
is nuts, And so I ran kind

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of across the table underneath it,
and I ran back around it, and

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then Corey and Mitch just standing there
looking all stupid, and Cory come out,

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well, we gotta catch it.
And by we, I mean you,

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Mitch. I knew if it's just
on Mitchie Corey, I'm getting past

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these fools. You know. Cory's
all scared, trying to stand on a

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chair, just pointing and shit.
And then Mitch goes, oh, I

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got an idea. So he goes
and he gets his bowl, not like

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a bowl, but like you know, if you like went home, I

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had some sketty tonight and then you
have some stuff that like just you didn't

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eat, so you want to keep
it for tomorrow, so you put it

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one of them bowls. It was
a bowl like that. I think some

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caught like a little tough ware dishes, you know what I'm saying. So

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that's what he grabbed, and I'm
like, what the hell you gonna do

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with that? So then Cory says, no, no, you need a

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bowl, So he grabs like a
candy dish or something. And I thought

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this up be cool to do,
like a halfpipe one you know, like

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if you're in the escape, you
know I'm talking about. So I said,

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well, shit, I ran behind
the door, and ain't Corey's like,

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I got it this way. And
then Mitch gets on the other side

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of the door inside of the room, and he's just like leaning down trying

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to eat me or something, and
I says, it's time to do some

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tricks. Shall So I ran out
and I hit that bowl and I ran

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up and almost did like a like
a three sixty, and I shine backking

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Corey's office and that smells good in
there, and I was under the couch

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just chilling, and ain't Corey come
in screaming talking about kim me in off.

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It's bad. I don't even like
Mice. I'm afraid Mitch saved me.

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And then he jumped in Mitch's arms
and Mitchell was like, hold,

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I'm saying it's gonna be o k
boss man. We gonna get that outside

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of here. And I got an
idea, and so Corry said, please

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Mitch put me down. He's scaring
me. So Cordy got down, moved

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the couch and I was like,
all right, well, I'm not gonna

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mess with Cory because he seemed like
a cool dude. So I shot out

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of Cory's office and then I went
back in the little room that I smelled

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all that goot food in, and
then I said, well, I start

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threw my wine be in. So
then Mitch at used to making noises like

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sauce or hot sauce. I don't
know what he was saying. So I

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said, okay, I'm a run
back. So I went in and you

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aren't AM's office. I skeezed under
the door and then Mitch comes up.

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We was just playing this and the
dumbest white man crap I'd ever seen in

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my life. He built. He
had a chair, then he had chipped

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over and then he put like like
a yard stick on it, like I

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was supposed to crawl up this chair
and then like scooter loongless stick to get

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this fo they old donut. I
don't even like donuts, justin I like

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nuts, So I was like whatever, Like this dude must be tripping.

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I just sat in the corner.
Washington put it all together. Then it

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wasn't an idiot, and he thought
I was gonna do all that and then

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get the donut and then Blue fall
in the trash. But I didn't.

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I was just waiting and you can
and you got my ass. You got

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my ass, Justin. And yeah, and Corey saved me because he was

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gonna just kill me, Justin.
I can't believe he was gonna kill me.

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I'm sorry, Susan, But that's
okay because you bought me some good

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nuts. You got me nuts.
It has nuts and more nuts and some

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seeds. Yeah, it's got some
little red nuts, the little yelling nuts.

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Oh wow, we call them nuts
where I'm from, so because we

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just like nuts, you know what
I'm saying. So yeah, so that's

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that's the story. But a lot
of people think that I just come here

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and then Corey went out and bought
them them traps. Yeah, is that

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what they called traps? Man?
I ain't seen nothing so inhumane. It's

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said documentary The Green Mile. You
ever see that movie, just Y,

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Man, My granddaddy was in that
movie All jingles. Yeah, it's a

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good documentary. You know. It
shows how people kill us for no reason,

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just squish our little guts out,
just st all over the place.

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Yeah. So that kind of scared
me, just you know, seeing them

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traps around. But that's why I'm
like, what they trying to do.

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Like do they I hear record to
my oldest family must delivered in the walls.

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Humm, no, idiot. I
came from the house down the road

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for I'm a traveler. Yeah.
I think there's a song like traveling Man

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or something, but I'm a woman. Nope. Yeah, the pop singer

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got one too about traveling, doesn't
he. Yeah. I like Bob's her

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he used to be on the road
with him. Really. No, but

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I dream, you know. Sometimes
I get in my little mouse wheel and

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I just run, run, run, run, run, and I pretend

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that I'm just running out of here. Yeah, you've been out a lot

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more lately. Yeah. I like
chilling. I like chilling. You guys

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got the Christmas lights here? Those
are so pretty. Yeah, and you

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bought me a new ball. Yep, they'll be here Friday. Oh.

409
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I can't wait to heard you talking
about it. Maybe it won't be so

410
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:41.359
heavy, hopefully not the other ball
you got. Just it's too big,

411
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.640
it's so healthy. I can't move
it. No. I try my little

412
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.000
mouse to ask you. It's skinny
up speed, and it just don't move.

413
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.519
No. I think that's Friday like
a rat. I think so.

414
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:59.359
I misjudged it or that's what happens
when your shop at Walmart. You got

415
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one size. It's all. I
had nothing but nice thing to say about

416
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:08.839
Walmart, justin they support recovery,
and I support you guys in your recovery.

417
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:14.119
They do support recovery. I appreciate
the second chance of life. But

418
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.279
hey, I gotta get out of
here though Mitch's coming. I gotta make

419
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:22.279
sure I drop some voodoos. Yeah, you gotta get my wheel. I

420
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:25.039
buttered up, you know what I'm
saying. But all right, I want

421
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:27.279
to tell Cory he's cool and I
appreciate coming on to tell my story of

422
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:33.160
how I came to be at the
two seventeen recovery Center. Well think Susan,

423
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.160
all right, that was fun.
Yeah, yeah, I heard a

424
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:40.200
little bit, but it's hard to
hear her because she's got to talk like

425
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.119
into the microphone. So yes,
it was stuff. What was she saying

426
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:45.440
that I heard her say? My
name said I something. Yeah, she

427
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.119
said, he screamed like a little
girl, dropped up on some chairs.

428
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:52.880
Maybe he didn't do that, jumped
to Mitch's arms. Oh that clearly didn't

429
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:57.119
happen. I think you were feda
story. What they call it a tall

430
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:02.640
tale, a tall tail, yeah, to the Tale of Susan. Yeah,

431
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.359
but it was entertaining. Nonetheless,
I have fun and recovery only.

432
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:11.839
Yeah. So we're going to have
Recovery Stories Message of Hope Part two on

433
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:17.519
February twenty ninth at the Grand Travers
Event Center here in Traverse City, and

434
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:21.839
you are going to be telling a
story, yeah, three to five minutes

435
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:26.480
about what was No. It's weird
because, like we took the training Megan

436
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.720
Perry, who's like a bunch of
different things. She has a bunch of

437
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:37.039
different titles, but she has this
u's like drama therapy, and it really

438
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:42.200
does help you kind of work through
some some problems. But we were doing

439
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.480
it yesterday and it's the same training
that Adam and I took, and it

440
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.960
pretty much tells you how to take
one point in your life during your recovery

441
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.640
journey and just kind of go into
more detail about it and just focus on

442
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.440
that one story as opposed to,
hey, here's my story for a half

443
00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.799
hour or for an hour, you
know. And it's it's pretty cool because

444
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.279
we all have like a billion stories
that we could tell, you know,

445
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.440
I mean, from even being at
treatment from the ride away from treatment,

446
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:12.240
you know you laughed at Yeah,
yeah, I mean those are all points

447
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.200
that you remember, you talk about
them, you know, so like to

448
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.599
get them out of your brain and
in front of other people. I think

449
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.119
it's going to be fun. And
Mitch he's going to do it too.

450
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:23.039
And one thing I said was like, don't write anything down, because that's

451
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.119
what Megan told us. She's like, it's it's making sure it doesn't have

452
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.640
to be perfect, you know,
we're just trying to relate to somebody in

453
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.839
the audience to let them know,
like, this is a real story and

454
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:37.079
it's not rehearsed. I mean it
is rehearsed, but it's not like written

455
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.759
down on a piece of paper and
you're not pretty much reading it, you

456
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:42.079
know, from memory. It's just
like, hey, this is what happened,

457
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:47.200
and it will change every single time
you tell it. Mitch's writing it

458
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:48.480
down. I'm like, dude,
you can't do. I've been working on

459
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:55.400
mine with detecs like over there to
go speak about how it came to about

460
00:30:55.880 --> 00:31:02.599
to recovery and my little entry journey
and it yeah, just more details.

461
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:06.720
Yeah, it's funny because when you
started telling yours, like we gave you

462
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:11.599
three minutes and then you told it
like a minute and a half, so

463
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.559
we just waited and then it's like, okay, now you get a minute

464
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.279
to tell it because that's how we
had to do it, and you finished

465
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:22.240
in twenty seconds. It's like okay, Like that's not ye. I wasn't

466
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:27.039
given a lot of detail as is
hitting like key factors with no detail.

467
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:32.559
There was no like set in the
mood. You're going to feel what I

468
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:36.960
was feeling at that time because I
wasn't telling you right, I was leaving

469
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.799
you clueless. Yeah, but the
more you'll think about it, the more

470
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:41.880
you go into detail, the more
you tell it, and then you know,

471
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:45.759
we'll give you two minutes to tell
it, and then we'll go back

472
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.279
to you know, three minutes and
then you get to tell your whole thing

473
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.000
and see if you can get it
in there. But I think it's going

474
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.240
to be really good. Adam and
I are going to tell a story as

475
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:57.039
well. Nice And then there's a
couple of people I'm thinking about asking,

476
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.759
but I got to get the nomination
for him up at two seventeen recovery dot

477
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:07.119
com because we're asking people to nominate
people they know in the area that would

478
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.440
be a good speaker that would want
to tell the message part of it because

479
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:15.680
it's recovery stories, message of hope
part two. Like the recovery stories is

480
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.200
what we're doing and then the message
of hope is that that whole part.

481
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:24.400
Yeah, you know, And I'm
actually finishing the video from the first one

482
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.759
we did. I put the recovery
stories out there as individual ones, the

483
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:34.400
four that we did with Lenny Kendro
and myself and Adam which on our website

484
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:37.519
two seventeen recovery dot com. So
feel free go check those out if you

485
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.720
need to be inspired by something.
But I'm want to put the whole thing

486
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:45.359
together as like a whole movie.
And I'm hoping we can show it next

487
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.720
week at stream at Center here in
town. That would be awesome and go

488
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.599
over there and be like, hey, we want to do like a world

489
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:57.920
premiere here with you guys. But
that stuff's cool though, and then that's

490
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.480
fun and recovery. That's the stuff
that we do and that's what we are

491
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.480
looking forward to. And I know
people were looking forward to the second one

492
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:07.400
so like it was a big hit, Like I heard about it all over

493
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.960
the place. Yeah, and for
a couple of knuckleheads like us. One

494
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.680
of us can't even buy suit of
fed nor. I don't like to come

495
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:17.000
up with this kind of stuff and
to do it and to put it on

496
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:20.839
and to make it happen, you
know. And there's a lot of steps

497
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.640
involved. But at least we have
more time to prepare for this one like

498
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:28.440
that. We'll see when they were
probably gonna screw it up even more.

499
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:35.319
I'm sure the more time you had
to prepare. I'm kind of a last

500
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:38.640
minute guy. Yeah, I think
we should be doing this a week before

501
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:43.119
Christmas. We should maile lot some
Christmas cards. Let's design them. Yeah,

502
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:49.839
let's design them. Don't get pretty
uh adhesive envelopes. You guys gotta

503
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:55.240
look them all. Hey see,
you can take a rag and just that's

504
00:33:55.319 --> 00:34:00.839
pain. It was easier just to
look them all. That's gonna be a

505
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:05.160
drop. I hope. It's easier
just to lick them all. I hope.

506
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:09.400
So it's gonna bust them out.
He's talking about his blogs and the

507
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:15.000
open but yeah, but they but
it gets done, and we feel good

508
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.920
when things get done. I mean, Mitch was saying he became a notary

509
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.000
and he's going through those steps to
become a public notary. Yeah, and

510
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:27.639
that was one of his goals back
last June, right after we open.

511
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.599
He talked about it and then just
put it on the back burner. Put

512
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:37.639
it on the back burner and kept
reminding him of it, but just never

513
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.840
materialized until here recently is like,
oh, yeah, I should probably do

514
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:44.639
that. I said I was going
to do it, and I need to

515
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.519
stick to that commitment. Yeah.
It feels good when you finish things,

516
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.440
and even if you think about something
as simple as doing laundry or mowing your

517
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.280
yard, you know, like when
you're done with that task, you feel

518
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:59.320
good. You know, your brain
releases some of that dope. Meine,

519
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.599
Yeah, that's what it's about,
you know, finishing things and giving people

520
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:08.800
opportunities. So we're gonna have volunteer
opportunities for sure, And like I said,

521
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:12.320
the nomination form will be up on
the website. Not sure when you're

522
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:15.079
hearing this podcast, but look at
two seventeen recovery dot com. If you

523
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.800
know somebody, or if you're in
the Travis Heary area, just stop on

524
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:22.239
by our office nine forty five East
eighth Street, Travers City, Michigan.

525
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:27.920
You can find us on Google as
well. Come by we got nomination forms

526
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.480
and get those to me and then
we'll start calling people and seeing their down.

527
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:37.079
Yeah, for sure, but I'm
looking forward to it. Well,

528
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.880
justin thanks for coming on to a
bitch about the government and chat with Susan

529
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:45.119
for a minute. That was nice. Yeah, I appreciate it, and

530
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.760
I'll talk to you again all right
the time of our choosing later. Thanks

531
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:57.239
for listening to the two seventeen Recovery
podcasts. Win a bunch of free from

532
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:05.199
to seventeen recovery. Go to the
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