WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.319 --> 00:00:07.360 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jaken Zalis on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:13.359 fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services. Hey sure your most prized possessions, 3 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:18.359 Katie z R. Two Side and I Heeart Radio Station. Hey, good 4 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:21.239 afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen 5 00:00:21.280 --> 00:00:25.719 fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jaken zos Gotta avoid Jason in this house. 6 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:30.239 Intern in training, intern training. Welcome, Jason, thanks for being 7 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:34.359 here again. Great. Great. He was at the spring game as well, 8 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:37.240 so he covered the game. We're gonna was hanging out with a bad 9 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:40.200 crowd because he sat next to you and me. Yeah right. We didn't 10 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:45.520 give him any information he didn't already know. You know, there's no peteering 11 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:48.759 in the press box, Jason, Yes, right, We actually just complained 12 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:52.119 in the press box. Uh yeah, like why are we doing? What 13 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:54.600 are we doing here? What are we doing to you? Heys, we're 14 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:57.799 gonna talk more about the spring game. We're gonna having him, honey right 15 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:00.600 here. He was at the game and his obviously his there's one of the 16 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:03.319 coaches I want to talk to about who he saw because all the lumps that 17 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:07.120 were here, right who was it cool to see? But then he has 18 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:10.159 him and his brother have a function over the weekend. Although we'll talk about 19 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:14.840 and then at the beginning, right, Pat Paris my my broadcast partner on 20 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:19.959 the Sugar Skulls uh YouTube streaming broadcasts. The Sugar Skulls have their home opener 21 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:25.000 this Saturday, six o'clock. It's a red out, so um, but 22 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:27.359 Pat and I are gonna bring Pat in to talk a little bit about what 23 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:30.439 he's seen from the diamond the Diamondbacks, I do that all the time, 24 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:34.640 and from the Sugar Skulls. Um. You know, I watched your game 25 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:38.879 on on Saturday and it was you know, it got dicey. But they 26 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:42.799 came back in one and they're three and ol headed into uh headed into their 27 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:46.359 start of their their home season, and you know, three games on the 28 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:48.879 road. So that's uh. I mean, not only are they three and 29 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:51.879 O the three and oh then gotten three road games out of the way, 30 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:56.239 so um, including beating the Rattlers. So um. We'll talk a little 31 00:01:56.239 --> 00:02:00.560 bit about about the home opener coming up and what he sees and what we 32 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:04.799 all see. Okay, that should be good. Hopefully that the crowd or 33 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:07.280 the two son people will understand that. It's pretty good product, right it 34 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:10.080 is. You know, they're they're they're winning game. You know, last 35 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:15.240 year's team was built on offense, and uh, this year's team is a 36 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:17.000 little both. They haven't scored a lot of points, but they haven't needed 37 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:20.759 to score a lot of points. That they're winning with defense as well. 38 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:23.479 Okay, cool, okay, looking forward to that. Last time I saw 39 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:27.639 Pat was that the uh, I'm gonna say he was the jinks. I 40 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:31.960 saw him at Sacramento. He never covers a game up. It was his 41 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:35.639 fault. It's a quick trip to the TV guy. Okay, Well, 42 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.280 if you give him some crap about it, his fault there is on the 43 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:39.919 lost for instance. Yeah, I'll let him know that exactly. Sure, 44 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:44.800 it'll take that one. You know, TV guys either they're running for mayor 45 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.759 or the governor of the country or the president. You know these TV guys. 46 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:53.360 Pat's a fun guy. Okay. What else is going on? Anything 47 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:55.039 else going on? We have football over with. We still haven't heard anything 48 00:02:55.039 --> 00:03:00.560 about recruiting yet. For you a basketball everyone's giddy and I can't wait and 49 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:04.879 come down around right. The Suns won last night. They bounced back and 50 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:08.800 they were losing pretty much most of the first half. It's losing bad enough 51 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:12.319 that I changed the channel. But I was I wanted to watch the Dodger 52 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:15.800 again. Clayton Kershaw was going for his two hundredth win with the Dodgers, 53 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:17.439 and he got it. It was a five nothing shut out. He went 54 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:22.159 seven inning. So but I was surprised to see at the end when I 55 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:23.960 went looking for the score, I was surprised to see that the Suns had 56 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:27.479 won the game, because I know they were down ten in the first in 57 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.520 the first half, I know they got You said they tied it by halftime, 58 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.919 but nothing I thought they were. I thought they were in trouble. 59 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:37.280 Nothing happens to the fourth quarter. Do you watch the final five minutes. 60 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:38.919 If you could go and barbecue, you can go out and do whatever you 61 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:43.520 want five minutes the last fourth quarter, you got the whole game in another 62 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.199 show. Let's disappoint you on myself because I wanted to take I wanted to 63 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:50.759 do three three team money line parlay on the three favorites last and they all 64 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:53.159 hit. I wouldn't have paid him paid much. I didn't do it. 65 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:58.919 Thank you for doing it. I think that's why we hit it, the 66 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:02.120 Suns will be zero two right now exactly. So, um I it was, 67 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:05.120 you know, good for the Suns. Um keep it interesting. Now 68 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:09.879 they go. Now they gotta go get one at the Clippers, right, 69 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:12.919 get to get home court back. Clippers are better than people think. Well, 70 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.520 Kawhi Leonard's playing great. He did you know he had a thirty plus 71 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:18.839 point game again last night, So he's playing great. So that's, uh, 72 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:21.959 you know it's gonna be good. Well, but you know, it's 73 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:27.079 what is it a four versus five? It's it's just four or three? 74 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:30.160 Or is it three six? Three six? Six? Three six is the 75 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:32.000 four? Or five? It's four five five? Yeah, three six is 76 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:35.639 the Warriors. The Warriors are but it's a four five So it's supposed to 77 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:40.120 be close. But you know, I just don't feel like you can lose 78 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:43.079 the first game at home. But everyone's right, and everybody thinks that, 79 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:46.360 you know, I mean, the Suns are the Bucks have the Suns as 80 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.959 the favorite two in the West. That sounds of the better starting five, 81 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:51.680 but they have no ventage. Right, that's the big problem, right, 82 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:58.399 right, they go seven? Maybe who the two off the bench? You're 83 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.360 actually like us, we don't remember. I don't remember. But if you 84 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:06.199 can't remember their names, they're kind of yeah yeah, not not not worthy 85 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:10.720 of a name exactly. Yet they're big, like big star players. Are 86 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:13.879 they starting to five? Yeah, if one of them starting to five has 87 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:16.199 a bad game, they're gonna lose the game. Like yeah, And then 88 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:19.639 did everybody Okay, Well, well we'll see. I still like the I 89 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:23.720 made the bet, not the Denver I met, never not to win at 90 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:26.959 all, but Denver to win the West. Just winning the West. Yeah, 91 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:29.560 yeah, I thought that was the safest bet because no one's talking about 92 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:31.319 him. Still, no one's talking about it. But if Phoenix loses, 93 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:34.759 well, no, yesterday, Jody. I'm not gonna take stock in Jody's 94 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:40.279 predictions because he was awful never last year. The Cardinals were gonna be okay, 95 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:43.240 no, Jody, okay, but you know he didn't think that they 96 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:46.079 were gonna the Sons were gonna win it this year, right or because of 97 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.480 maybe Denver or because of the depth. But at that time, he also 98 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:54.759 didn't think they were going to get ran right or yesterday? Oh yes, 99 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:56.399 yes, oh yeah, no, he said he didn't think they were going 100 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:01.360 but I, you know, I they're a mystery to me because you know 101 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:04.720 what, one day it's one thing, one day it's another. You know, 102 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:08.240 that's how it is, Like, it's crazy, that's how it is. 103 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:11.319 That's why it's tough to bet on on an NBA because you just don't 104 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:14.160 know. Uh, it's it's so hit and miss. Yeah yeah, good 105 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:15.759 luck if you do. No kiddy, no kiddy. But then you know 106 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:18.240 the choc one, the other games, the other Calves one, but the 107 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:23.959 Celtics one, Celtics one big So you know, um yeah, well you 108 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:29.519 would talk to me, throw down with my head. Another happens, another 109 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.680 happens, We relax a little, it'll be fun. Yeah, so no, 110 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:38.000 I, um, I'll get interested in the second round, right, 111 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:40.199 Yeah, that's when it gets the nitty gritty, and then of course the 112 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:43.439 finals of the West and the East. Yeah, I still don't know. 113 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:46.439 I Well, it doesn't really matter. We'll see, we'll see matter, 114 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:49.519 it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter what else is going on on the campus 115 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:55.000 there. Um, you cover, you cover, you cover football specifically, 116 00:06:55.279 --> 00:07:00.399 anything else. I was a cover of basketball and I cover a volleyball when 117 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:01.839 they're in season. Okay, so yeah, nothing's going on, right, 118 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:04.120 What do you think of the spring game we didn't have we didn't Yeah, 119 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:08.279 so, I mean it's a spring game. Nothing you know, to quatch 120 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:11.800 was going on in the game. But who have you seen that that? 121 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:14.240 Well? You well, you do the story. I asked him to do 122 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:16.920 this to asked him to send him me his story because he's gonna be writing 123 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:19.600 for all sports. Two son a little bit, I want to. I 124 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:23.319 guess you made an evaluation of the quarterbacks. Yeah, so I looked at 125 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:26.480 the quarterbacks, thought, because I went through almost all the spring game on 126 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:31.800 practices and I pretty much the other way the quarterbacks, and I think for 127 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:34.600 me, the biggest thing I saw was like the growth from each of them, 128 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:40.959 Like Jading Delor especially, I think it's maturity to command the entire offense 129 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:45.279 and the team has really grown his second year in the system. And I 130 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:46.879 thought the rest of the quarterbacks I've also you know, matured a lot more 131 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:51.680 and have learned Jetfish offense a lot a lot more. So I think in 132 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:56.519 the second season under Fish, they should all have like a better season, 133 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:00.439 um, you know, in his upcoming season. Basically, So when we're 134 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:03.720 talking about the quarterbacks, yesterday, I gotta I got a text message from 135 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:07.079 one of our listeners that they thought that the fourth string guy, yeah, 136 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:13.120 yeah, Tannebaum looked better than yeah, than the great the kid from Colorado. 137 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:16.360 Well it helps. Did you agree with that or was it just that 138 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:18.399 one path? I think it's the one path. Like I said, I 139 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.560 wouldn't take anything to like major from the spring game itself. I think you 140 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:26.879 really have to like look at how they performed during the practices and kind of 141 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:28.480 be with them a kind of their during the practices, kind of see how 142 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:31.840 they throw in the pocket, how they move around, how they valued right 143 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.600 during the scrimmages and whatnot. I think the spring game is just for four 144 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:39.360 for the fans to kind of just you see the team, how they look, 145 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:41.559 you know, see some highlight throws, whatever it may be. But 146 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:43.559 I wouldn't really take any like thing too made from the spring game itself. 147 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:48.879 Um yeah, where'd you get him? Oh? He already sounds smarter than 148 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:54.600 both you and not because he's a kid. That's why the features features. 149 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:56.720 Okay, I guess you have to hang out for a while, but yeah, 150 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:03.480 you'd really be your full while. Um yeah no, I again for 151 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:07.279 me, I mean, look, I had such a busy, busy spring 152 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:13.039 that that's the only time I see practiced during our times of practice. I 153 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:15.679 didn't get to go to any of the other if you if you watched the 154 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:18.679 quarterbacks all throughout the whole thing. Yeah, uh, some, at least 155 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:22.960 some, maybe a couple have said to me that the third string guy, 156 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:26.679 the freshman from Colorado U looks very good. Yeah. He has the size 157 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:31.200 and the strength and all that stuff that he could even supplant. Maybe uh 158 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.639 too, Maybe I think the field has gotten like a lot better people. 159 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:39.240 Maybe people don't agree with that, but I think he's matured a lot more. 160 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:43.879 He's a lot more confident with his throw is his decision making everything. 161 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.799 Jay Yesterdy said, he was just and we are impressed with the arm. 162 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:48.480 Impressed with the arm. Yeah, you know, the throws he was making, 163 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:52.480 even the ones that didn't he didn't complete, they were I mean, 164 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:58.080 he's got the rocket armys that that always helps, especially if you're a little 165 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.320 guy, right, you know, if you can get the ball out in 166 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:05.120 a hurry, well right there, you hit it as a nutshell, especially 167 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.919 because he's a little guy, right, that little guy is kind of the 168 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.559 problem. Yeah, at least from me, but but you generally don't expect 169 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:16.600 a guy that size to have that kind of an arm receiving. You know, 170 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:18.240 you think he, oh, he's not, that throw's not gonna get 171 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:22.039 there, and then it does. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, I think 172 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.879 his size definitely is a problem. But because of his like decision making, 173 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:26.679 he knows when he get rid of the ball, he knows that the right 174 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:28.120 throws to make, he knows when his scramall get out the pocket, move 175 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.720 around and whatnot. But I guess, you know, the biggest downside of 176 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:33.960 him is just his size. But you can't fix Where are you? What 177 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:41.559 are you gonna do? We're bigger cleats platforms. Yeah, right, we'll 178 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.720 see, we'll see what happens. I'm looking for to it. Even tho 179 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:46.679 I mister Grumpy, kind of was impressed with what I saw the limited text. 180 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:50.600 It was grumpy, Okay, what else is going on before we take 181 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:54.000 the break? Um? Well, I mean there's a lot of stuff. 182 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:56.159 I don't want to blow all this for breaking news and stuff, but there's 183 00:10:56.159 --> 00:11:00.240 a there's a whole Let me throw this one out because it's something we talked 184 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:05.759 about a little bit yesterday. The Arizona women's golf team went into into today 185 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.480 tied for first place, did not play well well all the way to fourth 186 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:13.919 place. Oh yes they were. They were nine over part today really yeah 187 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.399 yeah, um, you know, USC ran away with it. Arizona was 188 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:24.320 tied with USC at eight undergoing into today. USC shot seven under. Arizona 189 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:28.960 shot nine over, so a sixteen stroke difference between the two teams that were 190 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:33.559 tied. Yesterday. It went to USC Oregon Stanford. UM. Stanford was 191 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:39.480 the top top rated team going in their their player won the individual and then 192 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:41.320 Arizona. But you know, Arizona, you know, I kind of I 193 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:46.480 kicked the coverage. They were UH ranked twenty ninth going into the UH going 194 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:50.159 into in the power ratings or whatever those rankings are, and they finished fourth. 195 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:54.399 But they shot nine over today, finished the tournament one over. Um 196 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:58.080 uh uh, Laura and elimated come. They played their best golf, but 197 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:01.840 it just didn't come together. They're on the last day, so they finished 198 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:07.759 fourth seasons over. I don't know if they if they still qualify for nationals 199 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:11.679 if you finished fourth or what it is. Um, I think I think 200 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:16.440 it's like top four ago so but well, I'll I'll figure that out by 201 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.039 the end of the show. Okay. But uh, you know, just 202 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:22.600 in case you were curious since we brought it up yesterday. Again, you 203 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.000 know, they finished a little higher than than they were expected to and so 204 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:30.480 uh good good on the day. Okay, cool, we got about two 205 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.919 minute stuff, uh talking to Perish. Well, I guess we we shouldn't 206 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:39.759 ignore the Draymond Green things, right, Yeah, I'm gonna need to save 207 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:43.960 that for breaking news. But Draymond Green suspended four for Game three of the 208 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:48.080 Warriors a game tomorrow, stopping on someone during the game. Yeah, you 209 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.799 know, what did you? Could we talk about? What did you make 210 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:52.519 of I didn't like it? I mean, which, Yeah, but you 211 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:56.159 don't like him be suspended or you don't like I mean, I agree with 212 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:58.879 the suspension. I with this because not only did he stomp on on the 213 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:01.519 man, because he grabbed his leg like he didn't have to do that. 214 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:05.200 And then after he did that, then he started like yelling out the crowd, 215 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:07.279 started like to know the antics and the commissioners at the game, Like 216 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:11.600 he has to understand the moment and the environment he's in, you know, 217 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:15.600 that's who he is. We we kind of said that part of the reason 218 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:20.799 for a possible suspension or the dejection is because he's Jame Draymond Green, right, 219 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.600 and well and and and and uh um, I think it's Joe dumars 220 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:28.000 is the uh is like that was a yeah, you know at the works 221 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:30.720 that the NBA is kind of the spokesman on this, and he came out 222 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:35.559 he said, he said there were three reasons that that they pinpoint as to 223 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:39.360 why he got suspended, and one of them was his history, you know, 224 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.840 I mean, the one with the act itself. One was you know, 225 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.720 uh, the effect on the game, YadA YadA, and then one 226 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.679 was he's got a pass history. So so that that we talked about that 227 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:56.840 actually entered into their decision. Your uh there has nothing to do with this 228 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:00.639 case, but I guess it does. Yeah, yeah, so you know, 229 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:03.159 I mean, you know, somebody made the point today saying, you 230 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.519 know, if you if you get caught speeding and then get cut speeding again, 231 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:09.960 and then get caught speeding again, well then you know you lose your 232 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:15.080 license, right sure? As opposed to you or you who gets caught speeding 233 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.639 one time you keep doing it, punishment has to increase for you. And 234 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:22.279 he basically has been doing it and he should know this, right, he 235 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:26.600 should know that, you know the thing. The thing is the things bothersome 236 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:28.240 and I get you know, all the stuff is heat of the moment kind 237 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:33.960 of stuff. But he's been suspended for He's widely criticized for being suspended for 238 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:37.759 a happened seen a Costomer Champion. And that's what I was just gonna go 239 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.960 because I like the LA Warriors, and Kim kicking the guy of the noise 240 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:46.720 exactly costs the team. The chagink is gonna happen again. I see them 241 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.240 losing Game three because of Draymond not being there, Like, do you I 242 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:56.200 do get the heck? Yeah, I'm sorry. I think is and I 243 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:01.120 don't. I don't because i'll he's good and pivotal. I think that he 244 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:05.039 can't shoot. Yeah, no, he can't shoot. So this I think 245 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:07.639 they're gonna score. I think they win. There's a reason he plays, 246 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:11.120 Yeah, really good and he adds a lot to the team. 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That's Maya Nagy next Saturday at Cricket Wireless 308 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:55.599 fourteen seventy five West Saint Mary's Road Meeting. Great event with Maya Nagi is 309 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:57.680 open to the public and free of charge. Fans are encouraged to arrive early 310 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:00.880 as space is limited and lable on the first come, first served basis. 311 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:11.079 Breaking down all the exes and os. It's Steve Rivera and jakeenzmmits. This 312 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:15.039 is I Am the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen different. Hey, welcome back 313 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:18.559 to our in the ball. Here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve 314 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.839 Rivera. He's jagn Zalis. Now on the phone, we have Pat Paris 315 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:26.799 Sugar Skulls played by play guy Pat. How are you doing well? Guys, 316 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:32.160 hope you're doing well. Is also at Beautiful day out yet me tell 317 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:37.680 Let me start off with a little something something. So we go to Sacramento. 318 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:40.440 Who do I happen to see Pat Paris on the trip? Now? 319 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:45.079 I think I blame you for this first round loss. Back in eight ninety 320 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:49.200 one, my first trip to me, they lost the East Tennessee State. 321 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:52.039 That was my first trip on the with the team. On a post game. 322 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:57.440 They blame me, so we all have to get initiated. I don't 323 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:02.200 I don't know what to say to that, Paty, I you know, 324 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:03.720 I'd like to say it was me, but I think it was that, 325 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:11.000 But I tend to blame that. Yeah. I well, when Steve said 326 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:14.359 that you were there, I'm like, oh, oh oh, I think 327 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:18.319 I think we have something here. So I don't know, so Pat, 328 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:21.720 so man, they're three and those Sugar Sculls are three and oh three games 329 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:23.119 on the road. Um. I know, when I looked at the schedule 330 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:26.400 when it came out, I thought, you know, if they can come 331 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:29.559 out of that, you know, two and one, they're in really good 332 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:32.039 shape. One and two is probably about what you can expect, and then 333 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:34.599 they go three and O. I mean, what are your thoughts. My 334 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:37.960 thoughts right away is, yes, it's early in the season, but this 335 00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:41.680 is a different Sugar Skulls team. Let's be honest. We we saw them 336 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:45.960 have have some some moderate success their fierce first few seasons in the IFL, 337 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:49.799 but this is just a different team. This is the most balanced team we've 338 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:53.480 seen, not only on offense, running, passing, but on defense. 339 00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:56.559 I mean, their defensive units just as good as their offense, right, 340 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:02.480 So I think that's what's encouraged as they're three and oz and they look really 341 00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:04.240 good doing it, I mean very good doing it. You know what I 342 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:10.039 saw Saturday night was the first game I sawt start to finish and watch the 343 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:11.359 game. I was just looking to see, you know, what do they 344 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:15.839 do? And they're just as you said, first of all, the defense 345 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:19.359 is really good and I wasn't expecting that. Um, you know, I 346 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:22.160 mean Hurtis is you know, he's been in an offensive coordinator as an offensive 347 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.440 guy, but he's got his guys playing. I mean, they're they're they're 348 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:30.160 only giving up thirty one points. Put it this way, the total points 349 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.319 that are being average in the Sugar Skulls game is what the Sugar Skulls were 350 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.160 scoring last year nearly seventy, right, and then they and they didn't win 351 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:38.960 some of those games. So it's been crazy to see, as you said, 352 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:44.279 how balanced they are averaging forty one points giving up thirty one points or 353 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:48.559 three and oh and I also thought Jay that that game that first half was 354 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:52.599 terror I mean, they played kind of bad in that first half. Let's 355 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:55.519 be honest. I think they had a little hangover from the win over the 356 00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:59.319 Rattlers, but there was a confidence about them that they could turn it around, 357 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:00.920 and they did. They scored right before half and then they came out 358 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:04.440 just dominated the second half on both sides of the ball. So yeah, 359 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:07.759 it's been impressive to see. There's a lot of football to be played, 360 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:12.039 and as you guys both know, the season isn't one in the first three 361 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:15.680 weeks. Teams get a lot better as the season goes on. So if 362 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:19.359 they continue to improve, we'll talk about a team that can make a deep 363 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:22.960 playoff run. But right now, let's just enjoy this. I guess, 364 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:26.880 well, you guys sound like a well Doyle machine. You guys, let 365 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:30.240 me say this. So is it better talent, better coaching, or what's 366 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:36.160 the deal to me? Steve, I think it's all of the above, 367 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:41.920 and that's a that's not a knock on Dixie wooton. I think Dixie's real 368 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:45.200 issue is Dixie's an offensive guy and he was coaching the defense and it just 369 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:49.839 for whatever reason, maybe it was recruiting wise or whatever, they just weren't 370 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:53.599 getting the players. They have some of the same players this year, they 371 00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:57.640 have a different head coach and Hurt his chin who's focused on the offense, 372 00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:03.240 but he also is is there to recruit for the defense, and I for 373 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:07.799 for whatever reason, the players they've added are just better. And that has 374 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:11.880 a lot to do with coaching and maybe reputation as the head coach and and 375 00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:17.039 uh, you know it just it just seems to all be working right now. 376 00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:18.519 So I guess it's from top to bottom, from the top of the 377 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:22.799 organization down to the to the bottom. They've got it figured out. And 378 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.279 maybe it's just the way it goes with a team that's an expansion team and 379 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:30.039 in a league that is a lot of turnover, and you finally get a 380 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:36.680 coach that maybe has just enough of the right connections around the country to bring 381 00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:38.680 in some of these guys and it's working right now. Well, what are 382 00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:42.319 your thoughts on on the quarterback Ramone Adkins so far? I mean, he's 383 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:48.400 not spectacular, but he's would I would use the word solid. He doesn't 384 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:49.880 really do anything stupid. I mean, he's had a couple of picks that 385 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:55.200 you know, he's not put the ball on the ground. Um, he's 386 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:59.400 certainly not the runner that de quon Neil was, but he's also seems to 387 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:00.839 be a better and I think, you know, we had Carrington Thompson on 388 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.720 last week he said, what Alex about Atkins is that he stays in the 389 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:07.240 pocket more and he throws the ball more. Yeah, I think that's it. 390 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:11.039 I think he's instead of a you know, I'm gonna run if in 391 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:15.759 three seconds my first or second option aren't open. And that's what we saw 392 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.519 the last couple of years. And I think what you see now as a 393 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:23.160 guy who's gonna let the guys have enough time to run their routes. Early 394 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:26.759 last week in that game at Bay Area, it costs him. He got 395 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:30.880 a lot of pressure because the line, you know, they lost one lineman 396 00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:36.759 to the USFL and so they needed to, you know, make some tweaks 397 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:38.640 on the line. But they got it figured out by the second half. 398 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:41.319 But I agree with you. I think he's a better passer, maybe not 399 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.359 as good a runner. But then again, last year with Duke City, 400 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.960 when he came in as a rookie, he lit up the scoreboard. I 401 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.279 think it's in him if he needs to. But right now they've got it 402 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:56.160 figured out pretty well. With obviously you've got Mike Jones running the football, 403 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:00.240 and you've got Carrington Thompson. I mean, who doesn't just love that guy? 404 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.759 To me, he's the MVP of the league right now already, even 405 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:07.480 though you and I both know Jay they almost pick, always picked quarterbacks for 406 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:11.119 that award. But Jarrington Thompson's got to be in the running here early on. 407 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.359 So the quarterback is from I'm gonna be doing a feature on him for 408 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:18.240 a paper in New Mexico. He's from their small, small school. Um, 409 00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:22.200 so it kind of shows you that if you can play, you'll find 410 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:23.000 the player, but he will find you. Yeah, you don't have to 411 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.440 be this crazy athlete or whatever, but if you say, he's very consistent, 412 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:30.240 that's kind of all you need in this league, right And that's the 413 00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:34.240 great thing about this league is these are the quarterbacks that you find. These 414 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:38.200 are the players you find. It's these small schools. What is it Highlands 415 00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:44.799 or something in New Mexico is from I've never heard of its Mexico. Yeah, 416 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:49.519 but but remember heardis Chen played college ball in New Mexico. And I 417 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:55.000 think he, you know, has some ins and and understands the workings over 418 00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.279 there. And clearly Dukes City found this guy first. To give them credit, 419 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:03.599 but you know you've got to scour all of these smaller schools because these 420 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.079 are the guys that nobody's ever graded these guys before. You know, we 421 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:11.799 see these guys that make it to the XFL or the USFL, and they're 422 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:14.599 they're a little bit above the guys that we're seeing here. Although sometimes some 423 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.880 of these guys go up to that level, but those are all guys that 424 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:21.480 are coming out of Ohio State or whatever that just didn't quite make it in 425 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:25.759 the NFL. But these are the guys that never even got graded by by 426 00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:29.920 NFL scouts and they're getting an opportunity and now they're getting graded. And as 427 00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.880 I said, some of them make the jump up to the USFL or the 428 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.400 XFL and every once in a while a guy gets a cup of coffee in 429 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:40.440 the NFL. So defensively, again, that's got to be a huge story. 430 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:45.039 Their second in the league in fewest points allowed. Um, there's you 431 00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.480 know, some familiar names, Mike mintor Rashi Hodge who was here at the 432 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.319 U of a couple of guys like that, but there's there's a lot of 433 00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:53.039 new faces on the defense, and it looks like they may have put something 434 00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:59.200 together. I think you're right, and I think that again, this league 435 00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:02.720 comes every year. Well, it's like it's like college sports. Now you 436 00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:04.839 got to recruit everybody every year, right, You even have to recruit the 437 00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:08.279 good guys on your team because they may go to another one of the of 438 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:12.200 the IFL teams because they're getting recruited. So you're recruiting the guys that you 439 00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:15.160 had from last year that you want to keep, and then you're recruiting guys 440 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:19.720 off of other teams or scouring to find guys that can fill in some of 441 00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:23.559 the positions. And I think that's where Hurdis Chin and company have really done 442 00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:30.920 a great job knowing and identifying the biggest hole that they had last year, 443 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:36.440 and frankly, probably for the existence of this franchise is on defense. They 444 00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:40.519 can score, but can they keep the other team from scoring consistently? And 445 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:42.319 I think they found the guys. I think they plugged in some guys that 446 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:45.519 were already there along with some of these new guys. And I've been really 447 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:51.480 impressed with the amount of pressure they're getting on the imposing quarterback, the ability 448 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:55.400 to play this y. You probably saw it. They're playing these these like 449 00:28:55.759 --> 00:29:00.240 zone defenses where you basically leave a guy opened underneath briefly and then you charge 450 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:04.039 to the football. If he gets the gets get the path, but you 451 00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:07.039 got to make the tackle right away. And they're making the tackle right away, 452 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.680 which we didn't always see that the path. Yeah, you saw, 453 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.599 I saw a lot of that, or a lot I saw. I saw. 454 00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:17.799 I thought I saw a lot of late blitzes. You know, the 455 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:19.839 quarterback is standing back there looking around, and look around, nobody's open. 456 00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:23.240 All of a sudden, here comes the middle, linebacker or somebody you know, 457 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:27.119 blasting up the middle and messing things up. And you know, as 458 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:32.200 you mentioned, they played, they played just said, they played awful in 459 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.559 the first half on Saturday. I mean with a minute left, they still 460 00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.519 in the half, they still hadn't scored. All of a sudden, you 461 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.880 know, they put the clamps on. These guys, scored twenty one straight 462 00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.160 points and went on and won. And something, you know, something happened 463 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.640 or something change or maybe nothing changed, and they just stopped. You know, 464 00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.160 they the offense finally got itself going, but they looked bad in the 465 00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:52.119 first half of the game, and I thought, like I thought, okay, 466 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:55.799 they've got a little bit of a hangover. It's a third road trip 467 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.400 you know, it's a longer trip because it's the Bay Area. U it 468 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.440 didn't look good. And then they you know, they wanted going away. 469 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:06.839 It was a trap game, Let's be honest. It was a trap game 470 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:11.799 because they had just upset their arrival in Phoenix. They as you mentioned, 471 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.400 you go all the way up to the Bay Area in San Jose and and 472 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:19.799 that's not an easy trip for guys that aren't used to necessarily taking long road 473 00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:25.920 trips. And yeah, they they were sleepwalking through that first half. But 474 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.920 during that time, I didn't think the defense looked like they were is out 475 00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.079 of it. It looked like the defense had had a plan. But credit 476 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.960 Dixie Wooton, who was the offensive coordinator there for Bay Area. He had 477 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.279 a plan too, and they were able to put up a couple of touchdowns. 478 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:44.319 But then and don't forget Jay the special teams, right, they blocked 479 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:48.640 an extra point and they blocked a field goal that set them up in great 480 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.680 position to go down and score as well. And I think that, you 481 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:57.079 know, it's those kinds of things that you're seeing that the or the organization 482 00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:02.400 of that coaching staff is such that they can work on all three phases and 483 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:06.599 they're excelling at all three phases. I've been really impressed. A lot of 484 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:11.000 season to go, but you remember, after Saturday Night's game, we're a 485 00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:12.799 quarter of the way through the season. We just haven't seen them yet. 486 00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.680 It will be a quarter of the way through the regular season. So guys, 487 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.400 one of the things I've heard in the three four years they've been in 488 00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:25.200 existence is how well the guys treat their players, or the Tucson franchise does, 489 00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:26.640 and I would assuming they do the same in Phoenix where they take care 490 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:32.200 of their players. That's got to play some part. Finally, well not 491 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:36.240 finally, but you're seeing the results finally. Yeah, And that's that's what 492 00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:38.680 you have to do when you're in the recruiting process and word gets out which 493 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.759 one of these franchises and it's it's things that people probably don't even think about, 494 00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.960 but these guys need places to stay. So they get him. You 495 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:48.880 know they Jay knows better than I do because he worked in the front office 496 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.119 there. But you've got to you've got to make a deal with one of 497 00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:56.240 the one of the local companies that has apartments to rent so that we can 498 00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.279 get these guys housing. And then you've got to make deals with all the 499 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.200 restaurants in town and you give them some trade so that you can you can 500 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:07.039 feed these guys every day. And you know, and it's it's the ability 501 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:10.680 to have a nice facility at at Keno to practice. Yeah, it's outdoors, 502 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.480 but most of the team's practice out doors. You can't you can't practice 503 00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.039 all the time against those boards who get hurt. But you know, it's 504 00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:22.039 those kinds of things that set franchise franchises like the Arizona Rattlers and the Two 505 00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:28.359 Sons Sugar Skills apart. Is the attention to detail and credit Kevin and Kathy 506 00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.279 guy for knowing how to do that and that it's a it's a it's a 507 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.599 big selling point for guys like hurt his chin to go say, hey, 508 00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.319 ask your buddies who played in the league. Who's what's what's the top two 509 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.359 teams in the league as far as taking care of their players, And it's 510 00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:44.400 it's Tucson and it's Phoenix. Yeah, no doubt, because I you know, 511 00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:49.000 I all the way back to the first year. Remember the Sugar Skills 512 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:52.279 had two quarterbacks that you'll switch back and forth, and I've already forgotten their 513 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.480 names, but the quarterback who came in late um he said, you know, 514 00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:59.079 he was having a tough time with the team he was on. He 515 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:02.440 feared he wanted to move into the into the indoor Football League. And I 516 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.279 said, I said, how did you get here? He said, the 517 00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:07.960 first thing I did was I looked up which teams ares Kevin Guy running, 518 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:13.240 Kevin Kathy Guy running, and he'd be put in a call to Kevin said, 519 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.759 well, we don't have a place for you at Arizona, but we 520 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:17.000 might have it. There might be a place for you with the Sugar Skulls. 521 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.000 And he remember Marcus Coleman was a coach. He gave Marcus Coleman. 522 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:22.920 He came in, he came in. He said, I came here because 523 00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:25.960 I knew I was going to get a decent place to stay. I knew 524 00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:30.160 they were gonna feed me. And he taught. He told some horror stories 525 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.920 about places where they would get ten bucks a day. You know, they 526 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:37.160 get fed three times a day by the Sugar Skulls. So that's right, 527 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.240 and so that is a big deal. You know. It's it's kind of 528 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:43.160 like, you know, do you have the fancy football facility, like you 529 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:45.079 know, or the fancy weight room. You know that the college football teams 530 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:50.440 have to have. It's it's it's it's not that different, yeah, and 531 00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.680 it's it's you know, this is a you're not going to make a lot 532 00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:54.599 of money. It's in this league. So the last thing you want to 533 00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:59.079 do is you're taking your check each week and having to dig into your own 534 00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:01.799 pocket to pay for meal. And you know, you just you don't want 535 00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:06.440 to have to do that or dig in your pockets to worry about where you're 536 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.400 going to be staying. And so I think it's a huge part of it. 537 00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:13.360 It's a reason why Kevin Guy has been so successful with the Rattlers, 538 00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.960 and now you're starting to see some success at the sort of Skulls, And 539 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:19.960 it was only a matter of time. I you know, you guys are 540 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:22.800 doing a great job of pumping up this product. And I try to do 541 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.239 the same thing with Jason Barr and I on Kega nine. But this is 542 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.480 a this is a product that if you go, it sells itself, right. 543 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.719 And if you start learning the background of these players and you start learning 544 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.239 what they go through and the sacrifices they make just for one shot, it 545 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:44.800 maybe a long shot at that of maybe making it to the next level sometime 546 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:49.000 that that you really appreciate it, and you'll you'll want to keep coming back 547 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:52.239 and keep coming back exactly exactly. Okay, so it's a red out on 548 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:57.440 Saturday. Well, I was going to ask you, I've got like eight 549 00:34:57.480 --> 00:34:59.480 red ties. I mean, I'm an Arizona guy, right, so I'm 550 00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:01.320 just deciding which one I'm gonna wear. So, yes, that will every 551 00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.840 red that's exactly the right. So many red ties we could choose from, 552 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.599 all right, And so six o'clock, a thousand jerseys, a thousand red 553 00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:15.719 sugar skulls jerseys, adults jerseys being given out. So I guess we gotta 554 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.719 have red on right, Yeah, you gotta have red. And that's a 555 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:21.119 I mean it's a good Lee and I both think that that red is a 556 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:22.199 really good lie. I think you had something to do with that, right. 557 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.480 Well, I'm just gonna say it was my idea because Kevin wanted to 558 00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:29.440 have nothing to do with red, because you know, they wanted the Steelers 559 00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:31.199 colors and stuff. I gu said, Kevin, you're in Tucson, Arizona, 560 00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:37.079 University of Arizona, red cells, red cells. So yeah, we 561 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.039 had a we had a red out schedule for the twenty twenty season when it 562 00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:44.000 got canceled. Yeah, that's right, but I'm glad. I'm glad that 563 00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.320 they have it. It's a sharp, sharp look. And I know that 564 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:51.920 Ali Farhang wants Steeler colors because he's a Steeler guy work in Pittsburgh. I'm 565 00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:53.519 a Steeler guy too, but we can have red every once in a while 566 00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:58.199 because I'm a wildcat through and through. So I agree, Jack. So 567 00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:04.320 now you're off the hook for the first round. Thank you, hey, 568 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.679 Pat, Thanks a whole bunch. I'll see you Saturday, all right, 569 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.119 looking forward to it. Thanks for having me on. Guys, all right, 570 00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:14.119 take care. So Hill and I are going to heaven just for you 571 00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:15.880 know. I may go a red shirt. What do you think, a 572 00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:20.119 black jacket, red shirt, and then maybe I don't know, maybe a 573 00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.760 black tie or something like that. Red on red should go red. I 574 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:24.880 don't know if i'd I don't know if I'd look like a big blood plot 575 00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:30.719 or something, though, I'd be a little worried about that. All right, 576 00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.360 So let's let's head out. We're gonna come back and we'll do uh 577 00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.280 take your calls five two zero four, one six seventy four Friday. I 578 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:39.519 love to hear if you're thinking about one to the Sugar Sculls game on Saturday, 579 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:43.960 and if you're interested. 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I just put us in your phone, 638 00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:13.360 call USI on the ball and you know, and just give us a 639 00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:15.440 call. Yeah, when you want to what do you want to say? 640 00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:19.159 You want to talk about something? Um, Uh, the Sugar Skulls. 641 00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:21.679 So say, Oh, if you're gonna be going to the games, if 642 00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:23.159 you want to, yeah, you know, Um, I'd love to hear 643 00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.639 if you're interested in the you know what's going on with the Sugar Skulls. 644 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:30.079 Look, we all know that we're a winner's town, right. Everybody loves 645 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:32.000 a winner in this town. Everybody loves the winner pretty much anywhere. But 646 00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:37.519 there's some places where they even like losers. Um, this town loves winners. 647 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:39.119 And right now the Sugar Sculls are three and all. So, uh, 648 00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:42.360 you know, think about you know, come and check Come and check 649 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.039 out a game tomorrows as good I mean Saturdays, as good a day as 650 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:46.239 anything to do it. You might be able to get a jersey if you 651 00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:50.519 get there early enough. Um, and just check it out. Uh, 652 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:52.440 you know, from what I've seen of the team, they're they're fun to 653 00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:58.280 watch. They play some defense, which has been as as Pat Parris said, 654 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.960 not really the thing for the first few years of the of the franchise. 655 00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:06.639 But um, you know the games are exciting. You know, Saturday's 656 00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:08.760 game was exciting down to the end. Uh and uh, but you know 657 00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:12.880 most of them are aren't taking and all that stuff. Well, the thing 658 00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:15.599 is, you can you can score so quickly you're never out of a game, 659 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.400 right. I mean, there's a minute left in the game on Saturday 660 00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:22.639 and the Sugar Scalls were up by two scores and it wasn't over because if 661 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:25.400 they if if Bayery goes down and scores a touchdown, you can get an 662 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:29.280 onside kick and you can score in the first play. So they did go 663 00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:32.000 down and score, Sugar Cloves got the ball back, ran a couple of 664 00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:35.800 plays, scored one more time and that was that. So, um, 665 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:38.039 you know, it's it's fast, it's loose. You know, it's fifteen 666 00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:42.400 minute running clock for the for the for the Hals. It stops you know 667 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:45.320 for touchdowns and timeouts and things. But it you know, it's get a 668 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:47.880 quick game. You know, it's a two two and a half hour game. 669 00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.559 And uh, and again a lots you know, lots going on. 670 00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:53.880 Uh. They do a good job at the arena, at the Tucson Arena 671 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.320 of uh, you know, trying to keep things going, you know. 672 00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.599 Our Again, as miss Pat, I was part of the front office when 673 00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:04.360 we were you know, setting up our games. We just we do want 674 00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:07.679 we do not want fans. We did not want fans just sitting around with 675 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.880 nothing to do. There's always something going on in the arena. Um, 676 00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:14.639 That's that's what they try to do. So it's always fun to go. 677 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.159 There's deals on tickets and stuff. So we're really trying to pack the house 678 00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:22.440 on Saturday. Okay, yea. And we should have charged for that advertising 679 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:24.199 right there. Should we should have? Yeah, we should have. There 680 00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:28.559 should be a sponsor. Yeah yeah, Pat Parashaw every we youtubo every week. 681 00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:31.639 Yeah yeah. And and Pat and I again, I shouldn't tell you 682 00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:34.840 this, but we're gonna tell you that. You know, all all Sugar 683 00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:38.440 Skulls games home and away are are streamed live on YouTube. So Pat and 684 00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.719 I call the game, you know, like a TV broadcast, and it's 685 00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:45.800 on YouTube. Wait. Wait, even on the road, well, we 686 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.119 don't go on the road. The home team has to do. It's a 687 00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.159 it's a league rule. The home team has to do a streaming broadcast of 688 00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:55.800 the game. So if you watch the Sugar Skulls on the road, it's 689 00:43:55.840 --> 00:44:00.320 with the home team's announcers and you get in the same game. So and 690 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:02.599 then you know that one of the things that that does, it makes Pat 691 00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:07.840 and I, well, you know, we leaned, We leaned Sugar Skulls 692 00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:09.800 where you know, get more excited for Sugar Skulls plays. We try to 693 00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:14.760 keep it as as as as even as we can, because you know, 694 00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:17.920 part of your audience is the other team's fans, so you don't want to 695 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:21.480 be you know, we you know, we highlight them as well. So 696 00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:24.719 that's that's that's part of what we try to do with it. Your homers 697 00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:28.599 would not that much. Yeah, a little bit, that's what I got 698 00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:30.320 out of it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, not not a 699 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:36.239 total homer, not like at those ASU homers Kyle Dodd and those guys. 700 00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:38.559 Yeah, but he was good with us. Scott's my friend. Now, 701 00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:42.599 I you know, I saw him at uh, you know, I had 702 00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:45.599 some beers with him at the PACU tournament. Yeah, you know what at 703 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.800 the first night that We were there the night before the first game start. 704 00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:54.039 Um, there's always a little soiree at that uh that bar and grill that's 705 00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:58.400 right next to the arena and that they cordon off a part of it and 706 00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:02.280 it's for you know, pack twelve people at you know, administrators and stuff 707 00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:07.440 and uh you know, median whatnot. We were there and so, you 708 00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:08.840 know, cool Kyle came by. We had had a few beers, had 709 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:13.719 some beers with Mark Harland, the Utah A d. Yeah. I gave 710 00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:15.360 him some crap because I remember, I you know, I was. I 711 00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:19.360 yelled at him for having gone to two rose balls when Arizona still happen. 712 00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:21.719 So I told him, I said, you know what, I'm really glad 713 00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:24.400 to see you here on Tuesday night and that you've got a game on Wednesday 714 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:29.480 and don't have a box. He took that really well. You took it 715 00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:32.039 really well. But but you know Kyle god who, like you mentioned when 716 00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:36.800 you know, he was the annoying point guard that Kirk Greasa wasn't everybody else. 717 00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:40.000 You know, he's like a close friend. Good luck with It's pretty 718 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:44.159 funny. Be careful what you started to bring it in. I know, 719 00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:45.679 I know, I know you just gotta be a little careful. Yeah, 720 00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:50.800 so we have six minutes. We're gonna be talking to Lamont Huney here and 721 00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.960 on the other side in another half hour, maybe talking about the spring game 722 00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:58.000 and see what he's up to. Hiding him on the show when you were 723 00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:00.679 gone. Yeah, him and Ricky. Yeah that was a good I listened 724 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:02.840 to some of that about the childhood and stuff. Yeah, that was a 725 00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:06.920 gotta call. We gotta call. All right, let's take this call. 726 00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:12.800 You're on the airline the ball. Hey, guys, this is done. 727 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:17.360 How are you? I just want to pick up from yesterday. You guys 728 00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:24.159 are talking about how some people were frustrated with uh, Tommy Lloyd and the 729 00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:30.679 transfer portal and what are they doing and everything else. Um. One thing 730 00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:36.440 that people got to remember is Tommy Lloyd is still learning how to be a 731 00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:42.760 head coach. Yes, yes, yeah, absolutely. You're not a head 732 00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:46.360 coach until you are a head coach. And so you've got to You've got 733 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:52.320 a transition from being an assistant and having your tasks and your responsibilities laid out 734 00:46:52.400 --> 00:47:00.639 for you to being the head guy and laying everybody else's responsibilities out and all 735 00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:07.000 that stuff on top of learning to navigate this dang portal, right, because 736 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:10.840 I remember, I remember back to when Mike Stoops got the job here at 737 00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:15.800 the U of Age. He was learning to be a head coach. His 738 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:20.599 baby brother was learning how to be a defensive coordinator, and Mike Canalis was 739 00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:23.840 learning how to be an offensive coordinator. So everybody in the staff was learning 740 00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:29.559 how to do another job. So I warned some people around me, it's 741 00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:31.079 like, hey, man, baby steps, because these guys are all learning 742 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.480 too well and that, and plus you know, it's just the timing of 743 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:38.599 things right now. People are frustrated that they haven't seen Airzon a sign signing 744 00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:44.320 guys out of the portal. Who is right, There's been a handful of 745 00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.880 people players who have committed, but for the most part, all the players 746 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:50.599 are in the portal. They're all still looking around. It takes time, 747 00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.519 it does. And then what the thing is is though, that people heard 748 00:47:54.599 --> 00:48:01.599 how fast Jetfish and the football staff was on Jadeen Delora because they had gotten 749 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:06.199 they had gotten wind he's going in the portal, right, So as soon 750 00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.159 as his name was in the portal, his phone was ringing from Arizona. 751 00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:15.159 And so people are thinking that's how easy. It is, but you know 752 00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:20.599 that was that was kind of lightning in a bottle for jet fish. And 753 00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.840 so I mean, you gotta be careful on who you get out of this 754 00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:28.119 portal because why is this guy leaving where he is? Right? No, 755 00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:30.280 no, we talked about you know, it doesn't always look sunny at the 756 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:37.159 other side, right going and coming? Yeah, because you could you could 757 00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:38.840 go in the portal and have no place to go and then oh your spot 758 00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:42.719 got filled behind you and you got no place to go back to either, 759 00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.920 right, yeah, no question, no question, you know, So so 760 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:51.960 you go go play nia ball. Then so are you are you um being 761 00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:54.079 patient or you what? You know, who called the yesterday incident in God? 762 00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:58.960 In God and Tommy they trust? What are Carl Carson that? Yeah? 763 00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:02.519 Yeah, so how were you trying to be I'm trying to be patient. 764 00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:07.199 But it's you know, for for several years, we never got a 765 00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:12.320 chance to know who these guys were, with all these one and duns and 766 00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:16.159 such that I don't I mean, I have no idea who's on the basketball 767 00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:20.320 team. And I said it, I said it last week. You know, 768 00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.519 it's kind of frustrating to see there's all these blank faces at the end 769 00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:28.239 of the bench that we'll never see. We'll never know because you know, 770 00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.360 they'll never get in the game because of the guys that are coming in and 771 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:35.480 playing in front of them. You know. Whereas back in the olden days 772 00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:37.880 and we had the Gumbies, we knew what was coming, right, and 773 00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:43.400 we were looking forward to those guys coming. Now it's just a spinning, 774 00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:46.480 revolving door. And that's and that's it, and that's the bottom line, 775 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:51.480 because I mean, think about it, what Harvey Mason have stayed he could 776 00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:53.639 if he could have left and played about sitting out of year, any one 777 00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:57.000 of those guys, any one of those guys, all those guys, you 778 00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:00.760 know, like with Harvey, chances are he not of stage. He would 779 00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:05.000 have gone on to play at Loyola Marymount because he'd be a lot, heck 780 00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:08.000 of a lot closer to all the music stuff in LA you know, Yeah, 781 00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:13.960 yeah, sure, absolutely, you know he he would have doubled up 782 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:16.280 on everything, he'd have gotten his long term career going, and he would 783 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:21.159 have still got to play basketball exactly. And then at that time it would 784 00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:23.320 have been fun because that would have been with Paul Westhead. Yeah, that 785 00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:27.840 was crazy. That's crazy crazy group. Yeah, all right, don Hey, 786 00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.920 thanks so much, man, I appreciate the call. Thanks, guys, 787 00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:32.920 No, he may he makes a good point. Yeah, you know, 788 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.320 and we've said that, you know, in a lot of different ways 789 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:40.440 over time. You know, it's just different now. And I get again, 790 00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.360 Tommy's out there recruiting guys. It's not like he's not recruiting guys. 791 00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:50.440 It's not like as soon as the Craton guy when into the portal, I'm 792 00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:53.519 guessing Tommy was one of his first calls. The fact that he hasn't decided, 793 00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:57.679 that's not on Tommy, right. The guy's looking around, he's trying 794 00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.239 to get his best well, he's trying to get the best n IL deal 795 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.119 he can get. He's trying to get the best situation where he knows he 796 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.519 can play. Yeah, we have a call, but we're not gonna be 797 00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:07.960 able to take your call because we've got to get to a break. Please 798 00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:13.840 call us after the break, after the break, we'll take it during breaking 799 00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:15.280 news. We just can't take it right now because we've got to get to 800 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:19.800 our top of the hour break. There's no no fudging on that. So 801 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.280 if you're the caller calling in, please call us back. Right after the 802 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.760 break, we'll be uh, we'll be able to take your call. In 803 00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:28.880 the meantime, let's go ahead and get out here for now. We'll be 804 00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.000 at back top of the hour with breaking news, so stick around.