WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:32.359 Thank you for listening to Depiction's Media Radio. Welcome to Policy Rights to show 2 00:00:32.560 --> 00:01:06.319 about government policy and human rights. Welcome back to Policy Rights here in Depictions 3 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:15.000 Media Radio. I'm your host Michael Clogs. Well, the government Canadian government 4 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:23.239 has done that. They have expelled the Chinese diplomats from Canada, and of 5 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:30.040 course there are some repercussions to go along with that. And among the those 6 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.439 things that um the repercussions to go along with that, there are a number 7 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:41.359 of MP's according to ceases, which which they are not going to release a 8 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:47.519 list of that um of MPs that are going to be banned from China, 9 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:53.239 and there um are lists of lists of MPs that possibly have been threatened. 10 00:01:55.239 --> 00:02:04.959 The big question about the the on the on the threats is in twenty twenty 11 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:12.360 one, when there was a proposed threat against an MP, why is it 12 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:15.840 that it wasn't brought the light right away? Why are we hearing about it 13 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:23.680 two years later? And what if something would have happened to that particular MP, 14 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:30.919 Michael Chung and his family? What about that? Should there be a 15 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:39.520 directive that actually says, hey, we found a no matter how viable or 16 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:45.400 non viable it is, we found a chatter of a threat against a government 17 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:53.280 official rather that MP is part of the government party or part of the opposition, 18 00:02:53.000 --> 00:03:01.199 or however they if they are seeded in parliament, then they should there 19 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:07.000 should be a notification, there should be something said, and that is coming 20 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:14.520 around to be the consensus of all the MPs and being the consensus of anyone 21 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:22.520 who is actually asked that particular question. So we're gonna hear Justin Shoe's going 22 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:24.319 to make a couple of brief statements, and at the end of the show 23 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:30.000 we're going to hear from a number of MPs. They voiced their opinion in 24 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:37.800 both French and English about the topic of well should we know or should we 25 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:42.000 know what about transparency on that sort of thing. So we're also going to 26 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:50.000 hear from the United Nations about issues dealing with Sudan, Ukraine with drone strikes 27 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:57.879 and how the UN is actually dealing with those things, what their statements are, 28 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:09.879 and also how humanitarian efforts are going to go continue in Sudan with the 29 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:15.920 level of violence is happening. There are also some mentions about Afghanistan and Afghan 30 00:04:15.920 --> 00:04:28.439 women, and there are also some some some information about uh continued inspections for 31 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:34.519 the Black Sea Green initiative, how Russia is progressing along with their inspections so 32 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:42.759 that the ships can sail across the Black Sea. And with that, there 33 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:49.360 is also um in Yemen UH some mention about how the safer tanker is progressing 34 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:58.480 and how they are going to uh what the progression is in removing the oil 35 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:09.480 from the decaying supertanker so that there isn't a toxic spill of petroleum in the 36 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:13.399 area. So why don't we listen, And we're going to start with a 37 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:31.600 statement from Justin Trudeau about Canada expelling a diplomat back to China consul in Shanghai, 38 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:35.560 and will there be any further response from the government. We will take 39 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:41.360 whatever action is necessary to continue to protect our democracy and show that we're standing 40 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:46.519 up for our values and our principles. This is a decision we took seriously, 41 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:51.160 We took with careful consideration in order to do the right thing and expel 42 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:58.560 the Chinese diplomat. We understand there is retaliation, but we will not be 43 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:04.360 intimidated and we will continue to do everything necessary to keep our Canadians, keep 44 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:09.439 Canadians protected from foreign interference. Do you fear that there could be further retaliation 45 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:13.199 from China, such as economic retaliation, like when they find safety concerns with 46 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:15.879 our import These are things that we considered, but we decided that we needed 47 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.120 to move forward in a responsible way to send a very clear message that we 48 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:25.879 will not accept for an interference and regardless of whatever next choices they make, 49 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:30.879 we will not be intimidated. And more we will ensure that China continues to 50 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:34.199 see, along with other countries that are engaging foreign interference, that we take 51 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:57.879 this extraordinarily seriously. 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They 58 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:09.639 did tempt the correct issue system unno to the system coutin Langea and Austin accept 59 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:16.800 sitting massage via that way, and also the will be good about you're gonna 60 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:20.480 give you set in constitutis. Of course I'd be easier rou or not even 61 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:22.839 there are lockers that see if you don't they want to talk about the gay 62 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:33.039 song ambronounce the uh they don't get fill the account of knefflects on messissiary Messico 63 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:39.320 are asking folks about the idea of other mpace or or threattical lens the results 64 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:43.039 in best conversation with Michael too. I wonder here if you know many of 65 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.320 your colleagues who are worried, if you've ever had concern to yourself you know, 66 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:48.480 but I think you know obviously what we're doing with is you know a 67 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:54.320 legitimate concern of people being able to do their job with other differents. Uh 68 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:58.200 so I know that they're is a It is a concern I think for everything. 69 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:03.879 Do you think that the government should tell people how many mpies it beliefs 70 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.039 have been threatened? How'm I gonna go to the rat that I am going 71 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.320 to say what I think? It is a very significant concern for a lot 72 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:18.679 of ers. How as lay the sorry very critic economic am the actions that 73 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.759 were taken very very yet of China might take some sort of economic tact. 74 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:28.159 But could this affect Canada's supply chains, labor markets? So what he is 75 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:31.639 now not very concerned about it or not that which is not very yet. 76 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:39.000 Thank you for people, just so you will all these sales that they felt 77 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.919 less hear the beliefing, but fully the particulous as mamma that you are justc 78 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:48.799 Michael journal the has been more faer for and actually predictabat to the junt di 79 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:56.279 siblique or spot pass the city. The law says that consist particularity acuity apps 80 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:01.120 by itself is the hassanna slow passer consc did the sales? Did he fires 81 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:05.360 help from this? You know, shouldn't you just turn injury Holmes? How 82 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:15.120 many maybe we did? The deject with that questions, I hope can't petition. 83 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:22.679 You know, he don't can fully absurd the police security should probably back 84 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.879 back on. Okay, we don't know how many, how many MPs it 85 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:30.039 is, we don't know who? What do you? What's the government studio 86 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:33.960 transparency? To be honest, I think a lot of that has to do 87 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:37.720 with the Intelligence Service, and you know comes down to the Intelligence services evaluation 88 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:43.919 of levels of threat um. I personally don't feel equipped as a number of 89 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:48.360 followment to make a judgment call on that sort of thing of you know, 90 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:54.480 no technocratic knowledge of foreign influence or anything like that. I do my briefings 91 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.960 and I read my notes, but I do that really just comes down to 92 00:10:56.080 --> 00:11:01.200 what CSIS evaluates. And I just also want to add the spress solidarity with 93 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:03.799 mister Chong and his family is my neighbor and my friend, and it's happening 94 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:07.840 to him, as is absolutely observed in my os on art. The Minister 95 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.039 has not been forthcoming about how many MP's were threatened. I mean, can 96 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:16.320 you envision any scenario with that information would not be available to the public national 97 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:20.559 split reasons. I can't call him because I don't know. I don't know 98 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:26.679 enough without public safety or or you know, the global affairs or the geopolitical 99 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:31.879 considerations that go into decisions like that. So I'll leave it to the experts. 100 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.720 Oh nice, would you like the government to tell members of Parliament how 101 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:41.720 many energies have been threatened by or any hours there's anything if he's need to 102 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:45.639 know the answer to that. Mister Chonga said that based on the information he 103 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:48.159 got from Caesus, it's multiple MPs who are being threatened. We don't have 104 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:52.399 any more information than that, should we? I think? So? Yeah? 105 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:56.080 What what have you yourself our experience any kind of threats? Any talk 106 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:00.759 to any colleagues who have been through it? And do you think I'm easy 107 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:05.559 to know them? I think I think we wanted all how prevalent it is, 108 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:13.399 and what to look forward and who call? I think all those things 109 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:18.720 would matter had a happened so far. Sorry, why do you think? 110 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.320 Why do you think that information hasn't been to live already to those MPs that 111 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:28.120 according to this briefing that mister Chong gone. And also just be way aware 112 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:33.200 of my vay grade. Mister Chong has said, where any many stopping thesis 113 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:37.519 other folks where the subject of threats foreign interference? I just wonder have you 114 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.360 ever had any experience with that? And what transparency should the government is showing 115 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:46.759 in terms of who we've affected. I have not myself, but the government 116 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:50.840 two years ago when they first found out they should have come. They should 117 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:54.240 have to talk to mister Chong at that time and also talked to the opposition 118 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:58.720 at that time. But what about right now? According to what mister Chong 119 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:03.440 is saying, other mp ceasis believed that other MPs where the subject of threats 120 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:05.919 and we don't really have any information about that. What would you like to 121 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.840 know government would have that information to the government should be taking action on that 122 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:13.519 information like they did before they sat all that information for two years. That 123 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.840 we expect what they would come for them forth with that commission within the yearbook. 124 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:22.559 The government should be telling MP's about the threats they face. As Rumple 125 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.639 Garner more transparency do you think the government also because the ray there's happening today 126 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:31.919 in the House on the motion of privilege is really important and certainly the government 127 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.960 has a way to go to deal with this. So I'm certainly listening to 128 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:41.120 the debate. But um, I guess I never really expected something like this 129 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:45.440 would happened. So a lot of thinking, a lot of introspection. I 130 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.440 hope that you know, across the partisan spectrum in Canada, people understand how 131 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.320 serious this is and this is actually a threat to our sovereignty and our democracy. 132 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:58.399 So you have a personal experience with foreign interference. Um, I wrote 133 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:05.240 a piece on this last week. My writing has a twenty percent of my 134 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:11.720 writing on the last cat Canadian census identifies as after Chinese heritage. And there 135 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:16.879 was a line in the Global Mail story that talked about potential influence on a 136 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:20.159 Calgray MP and I has a helmet right up? Does that mean right? 137 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:24.279 I have no way of knowing that we've been contacted. I started going in 138 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:30.879 through my head, through the conversations I've had, and I realized how dangerous 139 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:35.639 that is, because I don't think Canadians realize it without tools like a foreign 140 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:41.879 Agent Registry rules like we have for corporate lobbyists, that we're we're actually we're 141 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:46.159 actually also causing a threat to our pluralism. Government is causing a threat to 142 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:50.879 our pluralism, and this needs to be dealt with or really quickly to restore 143 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:56.519 trust in government institutions, to restore trust in our democracy. And again I 144 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:00.240 hope that this is a unifying issue for Canadians to read it to me that 145 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.080 our government needs to do better. Given your experience with Enscoup, I would 146 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:05.279 just like to ask you, I mean I ask you that anything you haven't 147 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:09.039 you didn't call correct? You are you Are you aware of any reason that 148 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:13.080 the government couldn't tell Canadians how many mpeas have been through They've been talking a 149 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.840 lot about national security laws limiting what they can say. Is there any good 150 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:20.720 reason you can think of? I think that MP's have the right to know, 151 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:24.759 but I think that there's there needs to be a broader framework for like 152 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:30.159 this needs to be done in a structure, transparent way, and that's why 153 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.320 we need to have things like a foreign Agent Registry. I think that's probably 154 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:37.840 the easiest way to put a consistent structure around this is transparent not just to 155 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:43.000 MPs but to all Canadians, and have very clear rules on what that means, 156 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:46.519 but also importantly have teeth to enforce it. So I will surprise the 157 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:50.559 government way they gainst emotion. 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We've been reflecting a bit on the fact that we 199 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:52.319 know that other MP's, according to the information mister Chong has seen worth threat. 200 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:56.759 Are you aware of any other folks in your party or elsewhere in Parliament 201 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:00.480 who have dealt with these threats? And what are you thinking about a year 202 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.000 at this information? Yeah, I mean I am a member of the International 203 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:07.039 Human Rights Subcommittee that was one of the one of the entities listed by the 204 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:11.160 by the Chinese government. So I have been banned from China according to what 205 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:14.759 we've been told. So yeah, I mean I I have a lot of 206 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:18.119 concerns. I've concerns. Peter Julian asked that question in the House Estory. 207 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:22.000 We didn't get a question from the government. I'd like to know whether their 208 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:26.079 MPs or implicated. I think it's really important for our safety, but also 209 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:30.400 for our democracy and so that Canadians feel confident in in our democratic structures. 210 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:34.839 What will you be able to like to ask, like, were you targeted? 211 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:37.920 Were you what kind of information do you think the mp should get about 212 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:41.279 the possible intimidation of this I think that's a good start. I mean, 213 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:45.960 first of all, which MP's have been targeted? Have those MP's been informed? 214 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:52.119 Do they have the information they need to make the right decisions? You 215 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:53.759 know? Are there things that we can do to make sure that our democratic 216 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:57.640 institutions are better protected? I think this conversation entirely take over the House of 217 00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:00.640 Commons with the exception of question period right now. Do you think that that 218 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:07.000 is where the focus should be or is it time to move those questions over 219 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:10.000 a committee? As the government has suggested. You know, I think I 220 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:12.160 think there is work that needs to be on a committee. My worry is 221 00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:15.759 that we are politicizing this at a time when we actually should be working together 222 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:18.839 to find solutions. So I think I think we can all say that the 223 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:22.200 government has not acted as fast as we would like to have seen them act. 224 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:26.440 We don't have the answer to all the questions we need. But I 225 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:30.440 also think going forward, we should be working together to make sure that we 226 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:34.119 are protecting our democracy because Canadians expect that of us, and Canadians deserve a 227 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:40.440 democratic system that is robust and that they can Trust's not giving the information about 228 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:55.039 if they've been targets. All right, Good afternoon everyone. This morning, 229 00:23:55.119 --> 00:24:00.880 the Secretary General received the Carlos the Fifth European Award at just at a ceremony 230 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:03.400 at the Monastery of USTe Have presided over by the King of Spain, Philippe 231 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:07.359 sixth. In his remarks, the Secretary General said that he was receiving the 232 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:11.480 ward also on behalf of the entire un and for that reason he felt even 233 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:17.720 prouder. The Secretary General said that as we consider the complex legacy of Carlos 234 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:22.960 the Fifth and the global nature of his empire. We can find inspiration to 235 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:27.119 rediscover the universal values, principles and ideas that unite us as a human family. 236 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:32.240 He noted that the UN as well as the European Union, were created 237 00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:36.680 in the name of peace after the horror of two World wars. Mister Goods 238 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:40.599 said that peace remains our north star and our most precious goal. Yet the 239 00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:45.920 struggle for peace may seem at times like a Sccipian task. He emphasized that 240 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:51.440 we must work to make peace and to keep it every day tirelessly. Instead 241 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:56.200 of bullets, he added, we need diplomatic arsenals. His full remarks have 242 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:59.039 been shared with you. The Secretary General will be back of the office in 243 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:03.720 New York tomorrow. Turning to Sedan, the number of people internally displaced by 244 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:10.400 fighting has more than doubled in the past week. The International Organization for Migration 245 00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:14.240 says that more than seven hundred thousand people are now internally displaced by the violence, 246 00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:18.599 thus compared to three hundred and forty thousand people as of last Tuesday. 247 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:22.920 Before the fighting began, some three point seven million people were already internally displaced 248 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:27.759 at Sudan, mainly in our four Meanwhile, the World Food Program says it 249 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:32.400 will need nearly thirteen thousand tons of food to eat some three hundred and eighty 250 00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:37.440 four thousand people across the states of Ghedif, Jizia, Cassala and White Nile. 251 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:41.759 WF currently has some eight thousand tons of food stocks in Port Sudan. 252 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:48.200 In the coming days, the agency is expecting the rival of two ships carrying 253 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:53.319 food and supplies to treat moderate acute malnutrition. Since restarting food distributions last week, 254 00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:56.799 a WFP says that more than thirty five thousand people have been reached across 255 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:04.039 Gediff and Cassala, with distributions also underway in White Nile. This morning, 256 00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:08.400 the Security Council held a briefing on the UN Intra Security Force for Abbia otherwise 257 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:15.039 known as YUNISFA. Assistant Secretary General for Africa, Martha Pobi warned that the 258 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:19.400 outbreak of violence in Sudan may deeply impact the chances for political progress on Abbia 259 00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:25.640 and border issues. She said YUNISFA continues to support efforts led by Sausudan to 260 00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:30.559 reduce tensions between the ngok Dinka and Twiktinka communities. Her full remarks were shared 261 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:34.880 with you towards Venisland, the Unspecial Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process, 262 00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:38.920 said today that he was deeply alarmed by developments in Gaza after Israel launched a 263 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:45.000 military operation this morning targeting members of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad movement. The Israeli 264 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:51.440 airstrikes inside Gaza resulted in the killing of thirteen Palestinians and more than twenty injured. 265 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:55.319 He condemned the deaths of civilians in the Israeli air strikes. This is 266 00:26:55.440 --> 00:27:00.720 unacceptable, he said. Mister Venisland urged all concern to exercise max some restraint 267 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:04.400 and avoid an escalation. He remains fully engaged with all sides in an attempt 268 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:11.039 to avoid a broader conflict with devastating consequences for all. Last night, our 269 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:15.000 colleagues of the Office for the Black Sea Grain Initiative reported that the Joint Coordination 270 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:21.880 Center had conducted no inspections on Sunday and Monday. That JCC has confirmed that 271 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:26.200 inspections have resumed today on outbound vessels. Since the first of May, the 272 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:30.960 JCC inspection rate has dropped significantly to an average of two point nine completed inspections 273 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:36.759 daily. There are currently twenty six vessels in Turkish waters loaded with one thousand, 274 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.319 one hundred and fifty seven thousand, one million, one hundred and fifty 275 00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.599 seven, nine hundred and seventy four metric tons of grain and foodstuffs. According 276 00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.799 to information shared by the Ukrainian delegation with the parties of the JAYCC, there 277 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:52.599 are sixty two vessels waiting to move to Ukrainian ports. Out of these, 278 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:57.839 eight applications have been sent to the JCC for registration. The UN, the 279 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:02.480 Office of the UN coord Nader and the Delegation of their Cay are working closely 280 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:07.000 with all sides with the aim to facilitate movements and inspections of inbound and outbound 281 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:11.240 vessels within the framework of the initiative and agreed procedures. Wild Discussions for the 282 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:18.400 future of the initiative continue. Virginia Gamba, the Special Representative of the Secretary 283 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:22.240 General for Children Conflict, will be in Ukraine from tomorrow until May thirteenth to 284 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:26.240 engage with the government to discuss the impact of the conflict on children, including 285 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.640 how to enhance the protection of boys and girls in Ukraine and prevent gray violations. 286 00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:36.559 This follows the Secretary General's request and his last annual report on Children Armed 287 00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:40.680 conflict, to engage with all parties to the conflict in Ukraine to urgently address 288 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:45.599 child protection issues, including the prevention of violations against children. During her visit, 289 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:51.400 Miss Gamba will meet with government officials and with the UN Country Team in 290 00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:56.400 Kiev. According to our colleagues in Haiti, in the month of April, 291 00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.680 more than six hundred people have been killed in a new wave of violence that 292 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.759 is at several districts across the capital, port A Prance. This follows the 293 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.880 killing of at least eight hundred and forty six people in the first three months 294 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.359 of this year, in addition to close to four hundred people injured and three 295 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:15.000 hundred and ninety five kidnapped during that period. These numbers represent a twenty eight 296 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:19.119 percent increase in violence compared to the previous quarter. The report, launched by 297 00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:23.200 the UN Human Rights Office in our mission in Haiti Binu, also highlights the 298 00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:27.920 emergence of vigilante groups following calls by some political figures and journalists for citizens to 299 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:33.400 form self defense organizations to fight gang violence. The report says that Haiti is 300 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.400 seeing a worrying increase in mob killings and lynchings of alleged gang members, with 301 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:42.160 at least one hundred and sixty four of these murders documented in April. The 302 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:47.240 report also underscores that the violence is not only becoming more extreme and more frequent, 303 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:52.519 but spreading relentlessly as gangs seek to extend their control. The head of 304 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.359 the UN Mission in Haiti, Maria Isabel Salvador, renewed her call for the 305 00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:03.200 deployment authorized by the Security Council of a specialized International forces International Force. Haiti 306 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.200 needs immediate assistance to counter the increase in armed gang violence and develop its police 307 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.599 force, she said in a statement. In Nigeria, we and our partners 308 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.960 are appealing for three hundred ninety six million dollars to stave off hunger and acute 309 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.079 malnutrition among children in the northeast of the country and to help people get through 310 00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:23.640 the upcoming lean season. As we alerted last week, four point three million 311 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:27.920 people in the Bornou, Adamaua and Yobe states risk severe hunger from June to 312 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:33.440 August, and child malnutrition is expected to rise, with some seven hundred thousand 313 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:38.160 children at risk of severe wasting. Without additional funding, humanitarian organizations will only 314 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:42.960 be able to reach about three hundred thousand of the people at risk. As 315 00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:48.680 we have seen in previous years, early funding can help pull food insecure households 316 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.920 back from the brink. Turning to Syria, a new UN report has estimated 317 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:57.359 that fifteen billion dollars will be needed for the country to recover three months after 318 00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:03.839 the damaging earthquake. The Syria Earthquake Recovery Needs Assessment, stemming from a collaborative 319 00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.480 effort among eleven UN agencies, funds and programs, also puts the total damages 320 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:14.640 and losses at August nine billion dollars. Adapting. UN Resident and Humanitarian Coordinator 321 00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.599 for Syria, Almustova Ben Lamley, who led the effort alongside the UN country 322 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.640 team, called on partners to let the earthquakes strengthen our collective resolve to scale 323 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:29.720 up strategic and meaningful early recovery interventions across the country and not just an earthquake 324 00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:34.000 affected areas. And At around one pm, the President of the General Assembly, 325 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:38.720 Shabakuroshi, along with five of the sixth General Assembly co Facilitators on Health, 326 00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:44.880 will brief reporters on the ongoing multi stakeholder briefings and preparations for the UN 327 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.880 General Assembly High level week. This stakeout will take place at the General Assembly 328 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:56.759 stakeout area between the Trustee and ECOSOC chambers. And before that, are there 329 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:01.119 any questions? Yes, thank you for a couple of questions. First, 330 00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:07.160 on the follow up on what you just announced to blout the Black Sea Grain 331 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:17.200 initiative and no inspections Sunday and Monday, you didn't give any reason. Can 332 00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:24.920 we assume that this is the same issue that has held up previous inspections, 333 00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:34.759 which is the Russians not approving the inspection of ships. I believe that the 334 00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:37.799 JAYCC has pointed out some of the hurdles that they faced, including in their 335 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:42.039 update from last Friday, so I don't have anything new to say on that. 336 00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:45.440 Of course, like I said, inspections did resume today, so there 337 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:47.960 have been at least two inspections carried out so far today. Yes, but 338 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:55.480 there is still a very significant decrease in the number of ships being approved. 339 00:32:55.960 --> 00:33:00.200 Yes, exactly, and that's and that's what the JCC has also UH pointed 340 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:07.039 out. UM. Can you update us on what's happening with the meetings UM 341 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:15.640 that are scheduled this week? UM on trying between the top officials um on 342 00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:23.640 trying to extend the initiative. I don't have any particular details to share at 343 00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:29.680 this stage. Those are still to be determined. We do expect some high 344 00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:35.119 level meeting to happen this week. You'll recalled that on Friday there was an 345 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:40.400 expert level meeting in Istanbul and hopefully that will be followed up in the coming 346 00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:50.519 days with a senior level meeting, Yes, Btul. And then for how 347 00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:54.240 will there be anyone from the URN in Russia when the ministers for ministers of 348 00:33:54.559 --> 00:34:00.319 Russia, Syria, Iran and Turkey meet, anybody represented from the UN side. 349 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:07.039 That's that's not a meeting that we are involved in at firsthand. We 350 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:13.239 will of course do our best to monitor though that meeting, Yes, Visa 351 00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:17.079 And then tak just a couple of questions about the situation in Gaza. Should 352 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:23.760 we expect a statement from the SG regarding what has developed there overnight? And 353 00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:30.920 also there has been some reporting that the US, the UN, Egypt have 354 00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:37.679 might try to reach a ceasefire. Can you specify what the UN's role exactly 355 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:44.360 would be in that regard? Well, certainly, mister Veneland has also been 356 00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:49.039 working, including with different nations, trying to do what he can to restore 357 00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.920 peace on the ground, and so he will be involved with the parties and 358 00:34:53.119 --> 00:35:00.239 with the concern nations on that. And regarding the Secretary General's views of worse, 359 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:05.119 those are conveyed by his Special coordinator in mister Veneisland. So mister Venezeland 360 00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:10.000 speaks with the UN system in what he said today, it's just a quick 361 00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:15.800 haul. Well. Regarding the closing of the border crossings, UH, Israel 362 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.719 closed the border crossings going into Gaza. Um, are there there any UN 363 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:24.000 efforts actually to try and get in you know, goods and any humanitarian aid. 364 00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:29.079 Yes, whenever there's issues with the border crossings are our office on the 365 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.800 ground. The Special Coordinator's office works with the relevant parties to try to get 366 00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:37.159 that opened up, and we will be doing that in this case. Daddy, 367 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:42.400 thank you. Um you just search something from missus whistland. You just 368 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:46.559 say to a restaurant about Gaza. Yes. And then the wording was that 369 00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:52.079 he condemned the death of civilian in Israelish strike. This is what we just 370 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.280 yeah, yeah, he condemned the death of civilians in the Israeli as the 371 00:35:55.400 --> 00:36:02.320 Israeli strike. He just condemned the death of civilian. That's a very strange 372 00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:07.519 semantic distinction to make. Obviously the death. No, No, it's it's 373 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.559 very strange because the death occurred as a result of the strikes. Yea. 374 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.360 But so it would not have died had there been no strikes. There is 375 00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.880 no civilian die, only the militants. So he would not condemn the strike 376 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:22.480 which which destroy your house. Is something we as a as a rule, 377 00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.599 and this is the case with mister venice Land in this case, condemn all 378 00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:32.159 attacks on civilians, including all attacks on civilian infrastructure and civilian buildings. Didn't 379 00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:38.079 I say that? He said, I couldn'temn that death of civilians in Israeli 380 00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:44.440 a strike. So why did he choose this kind of sentence? I mean, 381 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.559 I feel like this is a semantic dispute. But as I pointed out 382 00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.400 to you just seconds ago, had there been no strikes, there would have 383 00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:55.679 been no death. So the condemnation is the same. No, I have 384 00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:02.679 to follow up. Sorry, thus then condem the israel last night. Yes, 385 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.760 I will just refer you back to what I said. Obviously, the 386 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:13.599 strikes are condemned. They had they had uh and they resulted in the death 387 00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:19.400 of civilians and that we condemn. Yes, Okay, First, I got 388 00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:25.800 some fall ups of my yesterday's question from our viewers on the alloted uh WFP 389 00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:31.800 eight. First, I'm aware that most of the most of the things got 390 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:37.440 looted happened in the first couple of days of this uh this this confrontation. 391 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:43.360 Do you know how many warehouses has been have been looted? I don't have 392 00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:45.039 the precise numbers, you'll need to get that from the World Food Program. 393 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:50.800 But but as as we pointed out, it was it was several different warehouses 394 00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:54.280 containing seventeen thousand metric tons of food. Yeah, exactly because of this number 395 00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:59.679 seventeen thousand metric towns. If you really want to looted that by man power, 396 00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:04.039 it will will take like seventeen thousand people. One people carry a town 397 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:07.920 of things. That will take quite some time. And you don't exactly know 398 00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:15.239 who did this. We we don't know who was in command of these forces. 399 00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:19.599 Obviously there are certain areas that are in control of one faction or another, 400 00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:24.480 but since we didn't have any firsthand evidence there of the looting, we 401 00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:30.599 don't know whether these were regular forces or others who were not so in the 402 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:32.599 control. So when the when when the looting happened, there were no U 403 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:37.840 and staff or they just instructed not you, not your stop the looting. 404 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:42.639 I mean for their safety, given given, given the fighting. Yes, 405 00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:46.559 so we have no firsthand evidence of of who was behind this were they're you 406 00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:52.519 and stuff? We have no eye witness evidence. Okay, happened. Okay. 407 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:59.480 My question today the former Prime Minister of Pakistan, mynstery morn Khan got 408 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:07.760 arrest it and sparked um sparkled protests across Pakistan. What's what's the reaction from 409 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:15.199 the Secretary General on this incident. Well, regarding that you're you're aware of 410 00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:22.960 our concerns of making sure that all of the political figures in Pakistan are are 411 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:27.000 treated fairly and and of course that that you process is followed. So we 412 00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.840 will monitor this process as it as as it goes on to make sure that 413 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:36.679 our concerns are being addressed. One last question, I'm sorry, shureing Uh 414 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:45.840 when, when accepting an interview with Albais, mister Garish Secretary General Rose said, 415 00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:50.719 unfortunately, talking when talking about the Ukrainian crisis, unfortunately I believe the 416 00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:57.239 peace negotiations are not possible at this time, and he said. He said 417 00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:01.840 that Russian seems unwillingly at the moment w draw from the territories, yet Ukraine 418 00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:07.599 is hoping to retake them by force. I mean, it seems he's not 419 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:15.079 very optimistic on the on the you know, the short future of the Ukrainian 420 00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:22.480 situation. Does that mean that the UN is not going to seeking any political 421 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:30.000 dialogue before the so called offensive started. We will always try to support any 422 00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:35.519 peace efforts if there's a genuine opening for that, and that Secretary journal has 423 00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:37.239 made clear to you both that he will do that, and he will pursue 424 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:43.519 any genuine options for peace. And at the same time he's been very honest 425 00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:49.199 and forthright with you about what he thinks the attitudes of the parties are and 426 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:55.840 whether there's a climate that is conducive for peace efforts and so and so. 427 00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.199 His positions are are unchanged. So he believes there's so far there's no climate 428 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:07.599 yet. What he said in Albays today is what he believes. Yes, 429 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:17.440 today, Russia for twenty five crazy missiles, that's Ukraine. At the same 430 00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:27.039 time, Poutine set this parody parade in Moscow. The tour has been unleashed 431 00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:30.360 against Russia. Who would you react to these words of the Russian President. 432 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:38.679 I wouldn't I wouldn't comment on the Russian president speech. But but again I 433 00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:46.639 would again reiterate our concerns about air strikes as that that hit at any civilian 434 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:52.480 facilities shown far. Are you able to give us an update on Martin Griffith's 435 00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:59.400 efforts at the Jedda Talks on Sudan, particularly his efforts to get safe passage 436 00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:04.119 for you man arian efforts in the country. Uh, yeah, I mean, 437 00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.440 he was of course in Jedda, as we pointed out, to engage 438 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:13.199 on humanitarian issues in Sudan, and he and his team will remain in close 439 00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.760 contacts with the with the parties after this to in efforts to ensure that aid 440 00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:22.960 goes to who needs it. He mister Griffiths proposed a declaration of commitments for 441 00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:29.159 the two parties to guarantee the safe passage of humanitarian relief. Mister Griffiths is 442 00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:32.360 encouraged that this declaration has also been consulted upon at the Jeddah talk, so 443 00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:37.400 that was a step forward and he hopes that the declaration can be endorsed as 444 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.199 soon as possible so that the relief operation can scale up swiftly and safely to 445 00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:47.920 meet the needs of millions of people in Sudan. Who seeking these peace talks? 446 00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.760 Right? Initially it was IGAD, the African Union. We saw efforts 447 00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.079 from South Sudan in terms of a seven day five which is not holding. 448 00:42:55.400 --> 00:43:00.800 Now we see Saudi Arabia and the United States hosting these talks. Who's in 449 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.679 charge of these peace talks? Who's leading this process? Is the UN involved 450 00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.840 at all? Because the parthis is going to be briefing the Security Council. 451 00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:10.199 What is he briefing the Council on if he's not in Jedda. Well, 452 00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:14.920 he has also been in contact with various parties and he will brief on his 453 00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:20.519 efforts. And certainly mister Griffiths was in Jedda and mister Griffiths and mister Pears 454 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:24.559 are dealing with a wide range of actors. There are a lot of players, 455 00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:29.199 I will admit, but those players, as you know, have been 456 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:34.000 coordinating their efforts from the start. You'll recall that the Secretary General two weeks 457 00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:39.320 ago convened both the delegations of the African Union, the European Union, the 458 00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:44.280 League of Arab States and the inter Governmental Authority on Development so that all of 459 00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:51.039 our efforts with the various parties can be coordinated for maximum effect. Different groups 460 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:54.559 have different amounts of leverage over various parties. We want to make sure that 461 00:43:54.639 --> 00:44:01.119 all of us are working together to get this violence halted as soon as possible. 462 00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:07.000 You are the inexpectations from the Secretary in terms of what the Security Council 463 00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.559 can do in terms of pushing those talks. Yeah, and we've made clear 464 00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:16.000 our expectations about the Security Council in that regard. We welcomed the Security Council's 465 00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:21.760 quick reaction when they issued a statement to the press within the first two days 466 00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:25.800 of the conflict, and we're continuing to keep them posted and we want them 467 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:32.599 to have a strong, unified voice calling on the Sudanese parties to cease their 468 00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:38.679 conflict. And of course that will be part of what mister Perth's next briefing 469 00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:49.239 to the Security Council will concern. Emily. Thanks for Han Jesseph open photo 470 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:52.960 open Martin Griffith. Do I understand currently that he left data and if so, 471 00:44:53.239 --> 00:45:00.519 easy going somewhere or else related to the student crisis. He he has 472 00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:06.800 left JETA. You're correct, and he will now be in Istanbul. Uh 473 00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:13.920 presumably on a different topic, yestuh tam, So can you tell us anything 474 00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:20.039 about Martin Griffith's work in Istanbul? And uh not not at disappoint no, 475 00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.639 okay, okay, But my question is about the Taliban. Is there any 476 00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:32.039 follow up with the UN on UM meetings? Is the status quo still the 477 00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:39.199 same that UN workers are being paid but staying home? What's been the impact 478 00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:45.199 and where's it going? Thanks? I mean the position. The position is 479 00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:51.239 the same as what I reported to you on Friday. One thing I would 480 00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.880 like to point out is that that working from home doesn't mean that staff, 481 00:45:55.039 --> 00:46:00.920 whether female or male, are not working. They'll be doing different sorts of 482 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:07.960 work to provide our services. And there's different programs in effect. For example, 483 00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:15.039 the delivery of essential programs and health services such as nutrition is proceeding and 484 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:20.119 supported. The education sector is in place, often from different types of locations. 485 00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.960 And you know and you know that we have had a few key exemptions 486 00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:30.920 to allow us to provide health and education on a non discriminatory basis, so 487 00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:35.840 that that is continuing. And meanwhile, the operational posture of the UN entities 488 00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:39.559 in Afghanistan is under constant review. And no one I'm sorry, no one 489 00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:45.159 going back. I mean no one from your staff from the un going back 490 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:55.360 to Taliman. The way that we're going about it is is is as i've 491 00:46:55.519 --> 00:47:07.559 as I've pointed out that that national staff in the case of UNAMA, for 492 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.440 example, national staff will continue to not report to the office, say for 493 00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:19.639 those individuals who are performing critical functions. Any follow up to I mean Mohammed, 494 00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:24.559 the DSG staff visit, any other visits planned. I don't have senior 495 00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:30.480 level visits to report at this stage. Okay, um Michelle, Oh good, 496 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:39.800 Sorry, okay, Abdelhamd, thank you for harm. I have noticed 497 00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:47.079 when you read the statement by Paul Winsland, you skipped an important segment. 498 00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:54.800 He said thirteen people were killed three PRJ that mean Palostina and Islamic. You 499 00:47:54.920 --> 00:48:00.559 had five women and four children. Yeah, when you were the statement, 500 00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:06.440 could you explain why you skip mentioning five women and four children. That's my 501 00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:12.079 first question when I when I read a statements, I don't read all statements 502 00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.440 and verbatim, Otherwise this briefing would be much longer. That was the factual 503 00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:19.000 information, but certainly it's part of the full statement, and you can refer 504 00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.320 to the full statement. Yeah, but don't you see that this is a 505 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:28.079 key issue, killing five for women and four children, which is unveiled, 506 00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:34.599 the real nature of the rate into us killing five women and four children. 507 00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:38.400 It's a key issue. How can you skip it? Like I said, 508 00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:45.320 I show itened all the notes that we get, but certainly that's there and 509 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:50.159 that's part of the record. And yes, you're quite right, that's exactly 510 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:55.039 what he said. Okay, My second question, do the Palestinians have their 511 00:48:55.119 --> 00:49:01.760 right to protect themselves? Do they have their right to self defense as any 512 00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:08.599 other people in the world. Of course, thank you. If the sun 513 00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:20.199 my questions were already asked. Thank you, Oh great, Alan, thank 514 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.920 you. A short question. Please, could you please disclose who will represent 515 00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:29.119 that you were in at the high level at the senior level meeting in Istanbul 516 00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:34.400 tomorrow on the day after tomorrow. I cannot I cannot say that at this 517 00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.280 point, but I feel like there have been clues dropped here and there, 518 00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:44.920 um stepping up, Hold on, hold on, please, is there any 519 00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:52.519 progress regarding the ammonia fertilizer pipeline. We're continuing with our contacts and as you 520 00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:59.360 know, Rebecca Greenspan has been working on this issue and did indeed visit Moscow 521 00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:05.119 last week to take up these concerns further, Stephanelle, and then then we'll 522 00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:09.800 go back to round two here. Thank you for my question was asked by 523 00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:15.320 I have a follow up. It's about the interviewed the Secretary generality to help 524 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:23.440 by ease. So we understand that he says that he doesn't see a peace 525 00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:30.079 process in this moment because that both parts are convinced that they can win this 526 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:38.480 war. Now, isn't the role of the Secretary jenneral doesn't matter how war 527 00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:45.440 is going, isn't it the one they should pursue the peace and find any 528 00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:52.480 try any way to find a solution. The way it was described also by 529 00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:58.840 you today, it looks like the Secretary General is that waiting for an opening 530 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:04.800 the kind of a passive way and doesn't give a list as impression, doesn't 531 00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:09.840 give the active role that the Secretary General should have two in search for peace. 532 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:15.480 So my quessing he's getting this is a follow up, my quessing he's 533 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:23.119 in a next interview, maybe well the Secretary General geevels this kind of active 534 00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:31.079 you know, active position. Well, I don't want to create the impression 535 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:35.599 that he has been doing this in any sort of passiveway. That's not our 536 00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:37.639 intention, and that's certainly not what he's been doing. He has been active 537 00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:42.840 and he has been working with the parties. As you know. That has 538 00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:47.360 resulted in the past a year in several advances, whether it is involving the 539 00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:52.760 evacuation of people from the ASO Stalls steel plant, or whether it's involving the 540 00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:58.639 Black Sea Green initiative or the agreement on Russian exports. There have been little 541 00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.519 inroads where he can them, and he's been in constant contact with the party, 542 00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:07.920 so it's an active process. At the same time, the whole point 543 00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:15.039 of diplomacy is to work to find places where you can make progress between the 544 00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:24.679 parties. The Secretary General is not going to be dishonest about where opportunities exist 545 00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:28.760 and where they do not exist, and he's been very clear about that. 546 00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:34.119 He's trying to create as many opportunities for himself and for the UN to achieve 547 00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:39.559 peace as as is possible. But he's also honestly giving you his evaluations of 548 00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:46.400 what kind of climate we're dealing with. Just QUI just a quickfellow hop but 549 00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:52.159 we appreciate the realitiesment also the way you discribe it, but just the whole 550 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:57.920 the peace proposal, the work present that right now that we know, for 551 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:02.760 example, the most famous is the China China, China presented a peace proposal. 552 00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:07.440 What is the opinion that the Secretary Genera had or maybe lulas and so 553 00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:15.519 on. We're supportive of any and all efforts by healthful countries to move forward, 554 00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:22.320 but the Secretary's General's evaluation of the climate between the parties is what he 555 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:30.639 said. Yes, Edie. Going back to Sudan and this declaration that Martin 556 00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:38.639 Griffith's presented to the parties in Jetta, can you give us any more details 557 00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:49.719 on what this declaration says and is there any time frame that he's hoping for 558 00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:55.400 a response from the parties. Well, one of the things we want is 559 00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:59.400 for the declaration to be endorsed as soon as possible, but we also want 560 00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:06.039 guarantee from the parties to allow humanitarian operations in Sudan to continue. It's clear 561 00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:08.639 that because of the needs on the ground, we're going to proceed with humanitarian 562 00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:14.480 operations whether there's a ceasefire or not, as we do in conflict situations all 563 00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:19.920 around the world. But in order to make sure that a safe passage is 564 00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:25.320 guaranteed. We want the parties to adhere to a declaration of commitments that ultimately 565 00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:30.719 we'll see what can be endorsed. But we're working on that effort. Does 566 00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:38.880 the declaration include on the establishment of humanitarian corridors? I don't have the full 567 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:43.679 details of what's been worked out. We'll see what can be agreed to between 568 00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:50.559 the parties. And one last question on Haiti. With this serious surge in 569 00:54:51.000 --> 00:55:00.719 killings and deterioration of the situation, is there anything else that the Secretary Gary 570 00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:08.400 General can do or is planning to do to try and find a league country 571 00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:15.000 for this force to go into Haiti. Well, we've we've been in touch 572 00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:21.119 with Member States and we'll continue to be in touch both through the Secretary General 573 00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:25.000 and through Maria Isabel Salvador, trying to see what can be done. But 574 00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:30.280 as you know, at the end of the day, it's up to Member 575 00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:37.639 States themselves to come to the four and take up the responsibility of ensuring that 576 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:43.199 the people of Haiti can be secure enough to go about their daily lives without 577 00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:47.559 fear. Yes, a bittle forgot on any update on the first phase of 578 00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:52.559 oufloating software will tanker off the coast of your man after the fund phrasing by 579 00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:57.000 the UK and the Netherlands. I know that the un steel needs around twenty 580 00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:01.320 four million dollars, but can you just not start Yes, yes we can, 581 00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:06.400 and the ships are coming into the area. We do hope to begin 582 00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:12.800 the activities of offloading from the Safare tanker, possibly as soon as the end 583 00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:21.199 of this month. Michelle, Sorry, just another question on the grain deal? 584 00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:25.320 How would the Secretary General you know I sort of nine days out now 585 00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:30.440 from the MAINTAIN deadline, how would he describe the prospects for getting the black 586 00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:38.000 say grind deal renewed and for how long? I think we're doing as much 587 00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:45.000 as we can to have this grain deal extended as often as needs to happen, 588 00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:52.199 and so he's working assiduously with different leaderators on that, as you know, 589 00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:59.599 Martin Griffiths and Rebecca Greenspan are also dealing with various parties and we'll see 590 00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:04.559 what can be done. And has he received any kind of um response from 591 00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:08.159 President Pution there's no formal response so far down. Yes, okay, I 592 00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:13.559 have another question. Please, I don't want my question to be misunderstood again. 593 00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:21.239 The world looking at Syrian now and with the hope that the crisis will 594 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:28.239 be over soon, because the Arab countries have successful dialogue with the Syrian government. 595 00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:36.920 Also in Yemen, after Saudia Arabia and irund they have they come to 596 00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:43.280 restore their diplomatic relationship. Also people look at him and as there is hope 597 00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:51.280 today injured the Sudanese parties meeting in Saudia Arabia. This means that the United 598 00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:59.320 National role is shrinking. I'm networking about secretariet but like what the rule of 599 00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:05.159 the United Nations for the past than twenty years when they were unable to solve 600 00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:13.400 issues or this is like comes from cooperation with the UN. Issues in any 601 00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:17.519 region of the world. There are times when different political events change the situation 602 00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:22.400 on the ground, and we are prepared as an organization to respond to those 603 00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:25.239 to see what we can do to strengthen peace efforts. As you know, 604 00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:31.719 there have been different opportunities arising among the Middle Eastern nations because of different signs 605 00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:37.719 of cooperation with each other. And what we're trying to do is build on 606 00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:42.519 that to make sure that all of our various peace efforts, whether they are 607 00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:47.320 in Syria, whether they are in Yemen, or for that matter, whether 608 00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:52.719 they are in Libya or Sudan or elsewhere that they can be furthered and that's 609 00:58:52.760 --> 00:59:40.360 what we're working on. 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