You know, it's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this. Welcome
to the Game Mesticides podcast. This is the podcast where we decide everything about
the world game so you never have to think for yourself. I'm your host,
Jeff Grubb and with me is Mike Minati. In today's episode, we
have some Xbox stuff from that Partner preview showcase thing. I'm a Bob and
WB is saying some wax shit, so we'll talk about that as well.
We also got a Game of the Year for twenty seventeen, and I think
we have a game and we'll get to all of that before the end of
the program. It's gouda be a good time. But first, Mike,
how are you doing? No, I don't do a lot of things.
Mike. That's okay, That's all right, is it? Yeah, that's
gonna be cool. Yeah. No, I'm feeling mostly better. A little
scratchy, a little brain foggy, but uh yeah, I'm not bad,
So that's good. I've played some motal climat mythologies on my own time yesterday.
I think that healed me. I think your theory that somehow not playing
it for over a week was draining my health as a bread it brought you
back to life. Huh yeah, somehow that's about like five earns. Now
I'm glad to play it for the rest of my life. Well, listen,
if that's what that's what it takes, it's definitely worth it. You
beat in about two and a half hours, you said, yes, yes,
I mean that's why I was like, look, so much of this
game is just bullshit out of nowhere. Like my memory is not terrible,
at least comparatively to some other people. So I was like, okay,
like now that I know that stuff, I think this game is not not
gonna be that hard anymore. And it wasn't. So yeah, basically I
could met the quote unquote run I just did now and it would be like
number ten just the speed run leader boards. I'm gonna like do something that
more resembles a speed run than that, at least at some point here and
submit that you got some optimizations yet two and a half Yeah, and we
got too. On we got to kill h Shinnock for real, so that
Dan, we'll, you know, do the right thing here and beat Super
Dan sixty four on Superman difficulty. So he rolls credits that would be good
too, because I think he's going to go through this game pretty quick,
so him having to start it over and play it again on Superman difficulty is
music to my ears. I love the sound of that. So yeah,
thank you, Mikey. Yeah I am. I'm doing worse. I'm getting
sicker again. Yeah, I now it's like actually a real cold. I've
been sneezing all day and stuff like that. So I just took some suita
fed earlier a little bit ago, and it probably will probably keep me awake,
but I need to be awakening. I'm doing a podcast, so that's
just fine. But other than that, it was like it was a fun
dag kind of work. Nod stop, that's nice, you know, did
game mess mornings and then we did a long stream where I played Princess Pete
Showtime, that demo, a few other things in there. I played that
new difficult game about climbing, which I was enjoying. So that was fine.
It was just like NonStop, and I'm like, okay, now I
got a little bit of time to feed the kids and do this. So
once I'm done with this, once I'm done with tomorrow, I'm going to
enjoy this weekend and I'm looking forward to it. It is almost here.
That'll be fun. It is almost here. Yeah, we're basically through Thursday
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And now I am remembering, I forgot to post the Q and A
that I have recorded right here in my computer. That's all. We'll do
that after this here it goes all right, So I got some big topics
of the week I want to talk about with you, Michael. We'll start
here with that. The Xbox Partner preview. They didn't call it a showcase.
I'll forget what they're doing. That's it, right, just stops at
their preview. I'm there. It was good. It was pretty good for
what it was. You know, no like as you were saying, no
megatons, no huge surprises. But I thought what was in there was pretty
solid. I thought it was well put together show. At the very least,
they did not waste anybody's time. That's kind of what I'm asking for
with these. I know that inherently watching advertisements is kind of a waste of
time, but you know, don't make me realize that. Don't like rub
it in my face that I'm wasting my time, and they very much did
not with this, and the games looked pretty good. You know. The
conversation for me really just goes to, how are you feeling about the release
schedule for the rest of the year. Yeah, I mean, look,
there was probably some stuff here that's gonna help fill it out, but it
is also kind of like, okay, like this is the stuff that's going
to be filling things out, and some of it might be amazing, right,
some of it might come out and be really surprising. I personally didn't
see anything that really was ringing a lot of bells for me or getting me
incredibly excited. Solid looking stuff for sure, but you know, I do
feel like man for the first time in a while, maybe we are going
to be coming across an actual light spell for a little bit here like this
kind of later spring and summer, and part of me almost welcomes that in
a way, a chance to catch up on some stuff, a chance to
actually play some old games like I like to do. But you know,
I'm saying all that, then we might actually get to these months and it
turns out I'll never mind. This game was a bigger deal than I thought,
and oh this actually came out. I forgot about that. It could
still very easily just be an insane schedule again, yep, absolutely, absolutely,
Like we didn't see Boloatro coming things like that, let alone the games
we did see coming, and most of those did pay out to be very
good so far this year. You know, Dragon's Dog, but two is
the big thing on the horizon for me, big thing, and they previews
come out and people seem very positive on it, and yeah, Unicorn Overlord
comes out tomorrow, right, yeah, eighty seven on Metacritic too. Yeah,
yeah, I think I think I'm gonna look for excuse not to play
Unicorn Overlord. I'm gonna be like, oh, Auto Battles, I don't
have to play that. And I bet it would. I bet it would
really like it just pretending to really indignant about the nicked teenagers from the last
game. Still, that's a good bye, that's a good idea. That's
a moral you can start. I am so moral when you put it like
that, you point like, so, yeah, I mean, but these
are the media games, and like you know, for the second half of
the year, we don't know much. But yeah, I think that either
way it goes. If we get great games that take up a bunch of
time, that's great. If we get a little bit of a dry spell,
I am more than happy to go back and play some older games,
catch up on some backlog stuff. So kind of a win win scenario here
for me, and I'm feeling pretty good about that. Now. If it
is a dry spell, I wonder if it's like we're going to get to
that and be like, oh man, well, you know, it'll get
back to normal here pretty soon. I wonder if it will be like the
first of many dry spells now that the industry is sort of freaking out a
little bit. And I guess you know. That brings us to the other
big story of the week. WB said they're shifting away from Triple A games.
This is on top of all the other stuff that's happening at Warner Brothers,
including shutting down Rooster Teeth this week, which was a really wild thing.
They've been trying to shop around and sell Rooster Teeth for a while,
couldn't find a buyer, and so they're just shutting it down. Really kind
of a devastating thing to happen to a bunch of talented people over there.
That sucks a shout out to everybody over there. But you know, and
now they're like, they are coming off a year where they had the top
selling game and they are looking at that and saying, well, we can't
do that again. And I continue to be a little bit like, man,
that is a wild thing that you can have that conclusion based on what
just happened. And in some weird ways, you can almost see it's like
they could probably look at their schedule right now and be like, well,
it'll probably take five years until a Hogwarts Legacy two is good to come out.
Yeah, we had rock Steady making that game, Suicide Squad for the
last decade and oops, it's not like they're going to just be able to
release the next one. We thought they were going to be on support for
Suicide Squad for a few years. We're probably not going to do that.
But even still, we're either gonna have them pivot real fast or shut them
down right. Yeah. I mean it's scary because Warner Brothers has been it
seemed before they're kind of looking for outs into out of gaming, right And
now, you know, even though they seemed like they were doing very well,
just a second ago because last year you had uh yeah, you did
have a big hit with Hogwarts Legacy. But the Mortala at once seems like
it did good. But maybe maybe it's slipping a little bit compared to what
Mortal Kombat eleven did. It seems to beginning lost a little bit in the
shuffle. It's hurting a little bit in terms of more competition from other fighting
games. But I do find the solution here just wacky. Well, you
need more live service game, more mobile stuff, as if that isn't something
that everybody tried doing years ago already. Yeah, it's like it just doesn't
work. It's just it's just it's hard. Maybe you'll get a Simpsons tapped
out maybe, but like the fact that I still remember Simpson's tapped out because
that was somehow some incredible exception of the rule when it came out. I
mean I would be like twenty fourteen, like twenty fifteen, maybe even older
than that, maybe even older than that right now, that I mean good,
Like it's very good. It's an illustrative idea there where it's like name
the one when to these big companies, Oh shit, name the games from
these companies that actually do stand out and are able to, you know,
noticeably make a lot of money over time now noticeably. They don't need to
be noticed necessarily, just need to make the money. And they're not wrong
that there's only gonna be money in mobile. Don't make your mobile games.
Absolutely, it's just like pulling out of the Triple A market now, I
especially when you know you could do it, Like that's the thing they know
they could do it is it really is the profit margin on Hogwarts legacy so
unimpressive to them that it just moves it doesn't move them at all. And
I think you just kind of nailed it as well, where yeah, that
was a success, but replicating it across all these other studios and even with
the same studio in a sequel, there's just no guarantee. And yeah,
I do think that they probably could find a way to more you know,
put some guardrails up and minim the risk and stay in Triple A gaming.
I think they could figure that out. But for some reason, it's just
so much easier for them to be like, no, that's scary, we
don't want to figure that stuff out. Let's just pull out entirely. It's
always that seems like a viable option to them. It's like there always has
to be some kind of strategy just so he can tell investors, but that
they're that you're pivoting because they need to hear that. It's like, oh,
this and works, now we're going to do this and that, then
we're going to do this. And it's like, obviously the goal should just
be to diversify. You should be making all of these kinds of games.
You should be playing to your specific studio strength and not say make rock Steady
make a live service game, right, mm hmmm. So again it's just
worries about what's going to happen to all these great studios that are at Warner
Brothers. But god, it's just it is frustrating. The Suicide Squad Jeff,
it was just a bad eye, thea that idea with a lot of
weird execution, and I maintained I think they actually made a good game still
in some ways, like fun gameplay, even on writing, but then you
put all this shit on it, all this live service random looter shooter mechanics
that just drown that game so necessarily. It's actually incredible how similar it is
to The Avengers. Yeah, it's weird. Because there's a game and you're
like playing what you think is a fun video game, and then for no
reason, it tries to turn into a forever live service game at the end,
and the game's position is very much, oh, this is the real
game. It's like what oh okay, m hm, and it's uh,
I mean again, you see how that happens on paper when when these company,
these executives here endless money for a game that's very popular, Well what
if it was popular forever and can continue to make money. Yeah. They
hate the idea of just being won and done. They hate the idea of
spending six years on a game that someone plays for a weekend. But it's
just again, like so many things are that way. Why is this such
a scary thing just specific for games? Because there is an alternative, because
mobile games do exist. That's why I think they're working themselves into a shoot
here where they like, if this was the movie business, you'd be like,
well, you know, that's just how people could say movies. I
went out to make a new movie, right, you just make a new
movie. But I guess the problem is it's just so hard to make games
now. And that's the real problem that needs to be addressed, and I
guess the scary thing there is that, of course their solution to that problem
is just going to be AI. And you know, of course there's some
ways where AI can be useful. You know, I use things that are
technically AI, like autofill and photoshop. But then some people say like,
yeah, AI will you know, we'll use that for our narratives and like
dialogue, and it's like, oh, oh no, that's a whole other
scary thing. Yep. And that's so stuff that EA was out there saying.
This week, they were at a Morgan Stanley event talking to investors,
talking to people who are interested in the money side of things, and they
were saying a lot of similar things, specifically like he we can get thirty
percent improvement on efficiency, where it's like, who knows where that number comes
from, likely out of their ass, but yeah, we're gonna be so
much more efficient making games because of generative AI. It's like, yeah,
okay, I mean, we'll see it. I just don't know how much
more efficient you can really be when everyone has the same tools, because you're
not measured against what you did last year. I guess you are. For
one game, you're gonna be measured against what you did last year. So
I think the example they gave is in the past, it would take six
months to make a studio to make a stadium for like a sports game,
and now it takes like six weeks, and he's like, in the future,
it might take six days, and it's okay, yeah, that's fine,
but everyone So that means a small studio now can make a game that
looks exactly like yours and it'll just take them a little bit more time.
But it's now that's within their reach. And so now you have to compete
with any even more games, which means really you've got to send all those
people to work that much harder to set your game apart again. And so
that's what you're gonna be measured against. You're not No one really cares that
you're more efficient than what you were last year. Are you more efficient than
everyone else around you? And the reality is your big lumbering company, no
way. And I just they don't think. They don't think that far ahead.
I think I think we know that clearly, they never think that far
ahead, but it's just frustrating to see in practice. Yeah, this is
the interesting thing about the industry right now. And you know, I say
things are kind of are scary, and of course they are. It is
specifically just volatile in that specific Triple A video game market, and of course
it extends beyond that a bit. But like you know, for for like
indie developers, for like Nintendo and the kind of gives they make, it
don't seem to be as much a problem as you know, Sony and Warner
Brothers trying to figure out, how are we going to keep making these three
hundred dollars million, you know, budget games that we can make once every
eight years, and how is that sustainable? And if it isn't, what
do we do? Yeah, I'll tell you what. I was playing a
sack Boy with the kid early today and it's like, man, this game
is actually really cool. It's got a lot of cool levels, had a
David Bowie level and it's just straight up David Bowie track, just and the
whole level is set to the like the music to the beat, and it's
like, man, I would I would kill for three more of these or
three more games like this, right, And but you know I also see
that they don't really sell at all. It goes to PC, doesn't It
sells the worst out of all those games, I don't, right, And
it's like there's kind of a chicken the egg thing there. It's like,
well, I wish you could condition people to want to buy those games more,
but you can't do that without making more of those games, right then,
so you can't trustify funding them because no one's buying them. Yeah,
right, And I mean there is a point where it kind of happened to
PS three generation a bit and got worse the PS four where they really stopped
making some of these more colorful, maybe age broader age games, right,
and then you know, so all of a sudden, de places market really
is teens and older almost exclusively. And once that did happen, it's kind
of hard to ever go back. And you know, there's so many conditions
there. A lot of kids just play on tablets, you know, they're
playing one game like Roadblocks. But again, I really do think that Microsoft
and Sony should have both fought harder and have done more to try to keep
that audience alive, even in some meaningful way. Of course, a lot
that was always gonna you know, go over to you know, Roadblocks and
tablets, but losing them forever. It's hard yep, And I do wonder
It's like that Chucky game that was inside Roadblocks inside the Xbox event. It's
like, how are these companies if anything, like why not make more like
partnerships with a company like Roadblocks? Put your stuff in there. I mean
that's very cheap to produce. Yeah it looks like it. Yeah you could
tell, but they have you know, tens of millions if not, I
think like north of one hundred million active players in there. So it's like
that's where those kids are. How like maybe start making some games for that
and then like have that be part of the pipeline. But it's like saying,
no, these bespoke mobile games, or if you're Disney, make the
biggest partnership in the fucking world with right with Epic and put all your chips
on that. And it's like, I don't think that's a bad idea,
But I also think like there's a world in which they made instead the equivalent
of a New Club Penguin like that level, and it's like that would be
I feel like there's a gap that's missing as well. But I guess all
the kids are just playing Fortnite and roeblocks instead, so maybe you can't make
one of those. I don't know. It's I don't envy anybody in the
position of having to make all these decisions, but it's like gaming is kind
of going to move on without these companies, and that's where we're going to
be here pretty soon. And if WB doesn't want to figure it out,
it'll be it'll be the one looking around in five ten years when all these
other companies stuck it out, and it'll be like, man, why do
we feel like Konami does in twenty twenty or whatever, where it's like all
these Japanese companies stuck it out and now they're making a ton of money because
they figured out the problems, and we wish we would have done that,
because we are missing out on the gravy train that's gonna happen. You definitely
do need to look at, Yeah, that two thousands period where it was
hard for the Japanese companies. You gotta look at economy and capcom and you
got to figure out if you want to be a konomi or if you want
to be a capcom. I think that's I think that's the choice. All
these companies face and it's there's no guarantee that even if you tried that,
you'll be the Capcom. But yeah, really can't do it if you're not
even going to attempt it. The economy, yeah, you, and you
don't want to, like you just don't want to because Konami clearly wishes they
were back in there and there now they're scraping and kind of just it's always
these spurts and starts and fits and where it's like, oh, here's another
contra game and that came out I think, and even got like a good
studio on it and assists. It's nothing, especially, I mean, especially
when you compare it to what's happening with Capcom, it is like less than
nothing in some ways. It's yeah, well, uh, I don't know.
Those are the big news stories I want to talk about. We do
have some superchats coming in and people are bringing up some other stuff they wanted
to mention. Let's hop over to that right after this quick break and we
are back Mike. The superchats are here. Go ahead and read those for
me. Big Fresh thirty seven says, I bet Response Shooter would have worked
out just fine if retooled to be in the Mass Effect universe. Hell,
it's weird in general, we don't have a bunch of Mass Effects spinoffs in
sub series. I guess I suppose part of that is I bet BioWare is
perhaps a bit protective of that. It's like they have the ability to make
a lot of spinoffs. But you know, maybe that is kind of something
right, like yeah, like maybe there should be the StarCraft Ghost equivalent for
Mass Effects, but it actually should have come out. Yeah, I think
you're right. That's like BioWare is not maybe not like necessarily protective, although
that's probably it, but it's the kind of thing I go, Well,
you know, BioWare might want to put like a shoeoter mini game or shooter
multiplayer mode in their new game, and so we don't want to step on
those toes. So let's not have you do that. Let's let them make
that themselves if they want. It's we kind of need to move past that
idea that that's possible, that that like a one developer is going to be
able to make their single player you know, RPG this massive thing and then
also maybe have a multiplayer mode in there, like that happened with Mass Spec
three yeah, that was a long time ago. The world has changed.
But I mean the mess up thing about that Respaun shooter is that, I
mean they could just retoot to titan Fall, and that's not happening. It's
you know, when they canceled that game, Jeff, I heard you say
this. That means there's no more budget for that game. It's not getting
retooed into something else, right like that game in any way, Superform is
just gone. And again it's a game all those people who are working on
it and playtesters you try it thought was already good. Yes, so it's
just bizarre. But that is nothing's happening with that. Yep. It's just
like, we already have our Star Wars game that makes us a profit.
Why would we risk that profit by putting out another game? And that's good,
Like I just if you are canceling games that are already good, I
don't know what we're doing here that should be. That's the hard part is
the hard part. Also, didn't they spend the money already to develop the
game like they gave They already paid for it. They don't care about sunk
costs, so it was last quarters problem. Yeah, that's that's that's partially
true, but like they still have two years of development ahead of them on
it. I'm like actually finishing up and so at least two years and so
that's those are big costs that add up fast, and that that's what they
were looking at. That's all they were like still coding. Bishop says,
so bad, so sad about fun House closing. Rooster Teeth owned thoughts.
I think I saw the Funhouse. People are spinning off still and doing their
things. Actually, very I know very little about Rooster Teeth beyond like Classic
Red Versus Blue, which I watched. I was never a Ruby. You
said Ruby. I thought it was r W B Y or any of the
other things. Right, you used to pay hmer guy did a video about
Ruby. That's how I know about it. Like, you should watch that.
It's very good. Yeah, yeah, I have no Actually I've never
watched a single second of it, so I don't know. I just remember.
I just remember, like they showed up and some Arc System works like
yes, the game, Yeah, they're on the cross bottle. What's the
fuck they name Cross Tag Battles. Yeah, yeah, rolls right off the
tongue. It's a really good game, and those characters are pretty fucking good
in that game. It is a shame. It kind of funny. Does
their merch or did their merch through rooster teeth and stuff like that. So
really yeah, like they Yeah, they were kind of providing services for a
lot of people and doing a lot of stuff with a lot of different creators.
Yeah, it was pretty big. Yeah, I mean, it's it
is interesting to see that happen. I guess just from reading it. I
know, like I saw centimasion of some people like Maye. It was coming.
I guess there were some controversies over there and whatnot, but that's rough.
I hope that everybody there, you know, lands on their feet,
and I guess some people are spinning things off. Yeah, I mean there's
a lot of people that work there that was the are still really beloved and
we'll be able to spend stuff off on their own. I hope. Beacher
says Warner brothers if you see the police Warner Brother, Warner Brother that's funny.
Cute. Ecto Coolest says what is the worst part about going back to
older games? For me, it's on skippable cut scenes, especially in JRPG's
basic ten Seymour Flux Boss drove me mad for this reason. Yeah, games
that do do that, we're in sane. Like PS two was right around
the era where that was starting to become normal. I think it was Kingdom
Hearts too, was one of the first ones where I could skip cut scenes
that I remember. I was like, wow, that's given like there are
it was before I was mythologies. I am able to skip those cut sees
even in that game. Can't believe that's gonna be my basis of comparison now
for a lot. Hell yeah, I will say speaking of that, like
lies and continues like that can run out. That's always rough with old games,
like, man, we really just did a thing because that's how our
kids worked for a long time for no real reason except that was our point
of reference, so we it just worked like that for decades. Yeah,
But for me right now, the thing that's gonna come to mind is goddamn
Ninja guide him with those uh, respawning enemies after one pixel of moving back
and coming birds and that memory issue. Yes, I think it was them
like not knowing how to deal with early RAM issues right in the early memory
being so limited, They're like, well, you know, let's think,
well, look this thing in the memory right away, and then send it
at you and then if you go back to that point again, it's just
going to trigger and we have no other way of dealing with that. But
no, they got better about that. Oh this case mechanic or if you
got hit, you got pushed back a bit, so like get hit enemy,
you get pushed back, and then you before it and that same enemy
spawns back in and it's maddening. Yes, it's so so frustrating. And
then those birds take like you know, you have like ten hit points or
whatever, and they take like four hit points each time they hit you,
and they just angles. It's so frustrating. Ryan Lolly says, Hi,
guys, I can't stress the importance of you all trying a North Shore beef,
a staple of the area north of Boston, while you're at packs as
the beef and cheddar boys. It's only right, is our culture. I'm
not sure how hard it will be for us to get to the specific part
of Boston while we're there, Jeff, but I would like to try its
picture. We're gonna have it like a grub hub to me or something.
We'll see that's a picture of this and it looks like a crime. And
also I want to I want to shut my face into it. It looks
so good. All right, well I'm gonna make it happen. I want
to go to chairs that's happening. I'll go with you. Absolutely good,
you better. Jackson ten says, I miss when there was still love lifting
me to Jackson color Woods. His knuckles has been rated m A for male
nudity low. Is that true? No, No, it's not true.
I looked out because I was genuinely curious. It is ray PG though at
all the ore or whatever male nudity is, like, you know, usually
it doesn't mean you're gonna see dick and balls. Yah, yeah, yeah
that boy. Jerry says, Mary fuck kill Tifa Ichibancasaga or Kyle Katar and
I'll let you go first, chef. Yeah, I will, I will.
I guess i'll do. I'll fuck Tifa, I'll marry, I'll marry.
Wow, what the hell? B come on? Like, just say
it and then I say whoa next next video? Jipe up top ten,
Cyberbabe, I don't get there. It is uh And I guess I'll have
to kill Kyle Katarn. Yeah, Look, I'm gonna marry Tifa so that
things can happen many times. Uh, but that's how it works. You
never hit the fucker if you're married. I'll get stoke at that. Then.
Uh, look, I'm going to fuck Kyle Catarn and then yeah,
I'm sorry. I guess I gotta kill each bond. I'm sorry. What
Cody Bishop says, Warner Brothers should make a Mad Max versions just some metal
double, a budget live service like hel Divers car Battles in a Wasteland twenty
fifteen Mad Max. I mean the problems they made that Mad Max game that
was actually pretty good. I don't think it did very well, right,
I should play that game. I should play that all. So that's going
to probably be a game club game some point. Oh that's a great idea.
Ali Miracle says if all the Shenanigans was sweet Baby incorporated, reactionary content
creators who are trash trolls and things like fascist weirdos and hell Divers too,
just the weirdest time and games in a long time. Yeah, it deitely
seems like certain sentiments are rising again. All of them never went away.
Things always get heated. I mean, part of me doesn't want to talk
about sweep Baby too much, just because if there's one thing I sort of
learned from gamer Gate was ignoring it was ultimately the best thing you could do
about it. But I cannot stress enough how incredibly fucking stupid that whole thing
is. And I don't want to say it was ruining my vacation, but
being on vacation and like on Twitter and seeing like this stuff happening and seeing
it like freaking asthmen gold his videos I used to watch back when he was
just a we're on talking about World of Warcraft doing this shit. It's like,
oh my god, what is this? Yeah? It is uh and
you're right, like lack of oxygen is going to be the best way to
deal with this. For the most part. I'm like also trying to put
a little bit of honey on my tweets and stuff about it here and there,
where I'm like, I'm gonna give some people who are undecided for whatever
stupid fucking reason a chance to be like, oh, Okay, this person's
being reasonable. But that's not gonna last very long. Eventually, it's just
gonna be dead silence on this stuff. It is. I think this stuff
flares up when tensions are high for all kinds of reasons, like it's an
election year and everyone keeps saying they're gonna stop making fucking video games, and
no one can afford shit, and no one has a third place in their
life. You can't go anywhere because the bar is too expensive, and you
know, go and hang out with your friends is kind of expensive. So
people are just on edge in every way, and they are lashing out,
and they're I mean a lot of people just blaming the wrong people. A
lot of people, we're just doing it because they are actual just trolls.
And then of course the racists or racist and then of course Twitter is now
monetizing that behavior. You get paid to do that now, so of course
it's worse than ever. The ed Jue thirteenth says, how much did you
like Revolution? I was there, Darby's insane perfect ending for sting and Takashita
Ospray stole the show. I did not can see it. I was on
vacation. I still want to. I don't usually like buy. It's a
weird thing where I'm like, I have to pay how much for a show
that's not live? But I really want to see the show, so I
might do it. Anyways, I watched it, Jeff, I really really
really liked it. It was every match of wrestling was very entertaining. I
liked it, and I thought the thing send off was great and of course,
I mean, of course Ospray was incredible. That match ruled. Zoomer
says, I've been hoping against all hopes, Sonny would merge full Screen into
country role since Salov took over. That would save Rooster Teeth. That'd be
interesting if Sony had Rooster Teeth and or like you're gonna make Red and Blue
off of kill Zone five, it'd be kill Zone versus Resistance. That's what
they would do. Yeah, I don't think you want to buy it.
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't think you want that because Sonny
management of like Croun Turl and the fundamenttion, all that stuff, it hasn't
been it's worthy good. Well, it's they're all bad. Yeah that's awful.
So yeah, Oh, Greg says, what if Mike takes on a
Protogie to teach speed running Mortal Kommet mythologies like how Dan taught Jeff had a
speed run punch out when Jeff was that man like it had like Jeff taught
it to. Dan taught that Jeff already understood how to play punch Out,
like somebody has to understand how to play Mortal Comet mythologies first, and that's
the hard part actually. I think like under the rough lights the harsh lights
of Blight Club, I think that game was a little bit more troublesome.
If you have, like the free reign to just sort of learn it on
your own time, it's a little bit easier, I will say. Definitely.
One of the hardest things is that I had to do that one continue
what like three lives thing, which nobody actually does, think even the speed
run right. Actually most of speed runners do run on very hard for whatever
reason. I think it helps with some manipulations, but everybody just baxes out
the lives and continues. Of course, that was the hardest part for sure,
was just having to deal with so many game overs. Absolutely, yes,
and you know Dan's trowing the entire Wolf says, you all see how
good feel is doing Peach showtime. Yep. Yeah, it's the team that
did a bunch of the recent Yoshi games and stuff like that. So yeah,
saw that I played that game a little bit. I'll talk about it
later in the podcast, but for the most part, I was like,
yeah, this is what I was expecting. And the kid did play it
and she was mostly into it. Good Rita says, I'm back, Mike.
My heart cracked a bit and super damn when you said you don't want
your friend to succeed, but you got to stop helping. You want your
friend to succeed, but you gotta stop helping him. Think of how much
BSc has put you through with that remorse, make him suff I'm sorry,
true, I just am who I am. And look it's not some altruistic
thing really part of frustrated everybody, please know it all problems. You got
a lot of ways like I just all right, sorry now stop right there,
because he will. He wasn't like he will. He was willing to
let you die playing the second level of Mortal Come but like that his entire
life, you helping me like like an hour after you go like kind of
fruit it a little bit, that's just weakness, because I mean it's yes,
Mike is the frog right or in dance? I can't page who I
am? All right? Yeah, it turns to be crazy when he's on
a part love for the seventh time, He's like, now where do I
go next? And I'm like, I just say him do it eight times.
I'm not gonna watch him fire out forever. That's painful to me too,
And at certain point I was sick of that level. Let's move on,
like he should have already been able to have guessed that. Of course
he has to freeze the bombs with his ice breath. He's playing metal gear
solid too. He knows. I just knew he wouldn't. All right,
WELLO, David says, crushed by Mighty Peach or drowned by mermaid Peach.
What's mighty Peach? Did they make a muscle mommy Peach? That the kunk
fu ones that just kunk fu Peach? Maybe Google ecause I'm you're gonna Google?
I like hear Peach. Oh yeah, I'm pretty good. I thought
Top ten Hottest Peaches and Princes Peach, Showtime Peaches that we want to take
to Applebee's Bye Fish Dinner. Here you go. Mighty Peach is the futuristic
one that looks like she straight out bowel and network right. Oh, I
like that? Who can say? Yeah, I want to be shot to
death by cowgirl Peach. Oh look at that? Oh is it? Yeah?
I look at that. That's pretty cool. It's like a saban or
what. I Ah, that's good. These costumes are pretty neat in this
game. If you look nice. Oh yeah, yeah, that's one of
the better parts of it. Yeah, ep idiot Box says, I've developed
a negative association with being at my PC and work, so I lose the
motivation to play games on the PC. I'm thinking a handheld might be the
solution. What do you recommend I buy? Thanks? Uh, yeah,
it could be. I mean I think that a lot of them are good.
I think Jeff really likes the Steam Deck. I actually am really into
the roger Ally right now. I think those are kind of the go tos
for a lot of people. Yeah, I mean, you waited this long.
There's a new crop coming out with the new generation of chip that's in
like a lot of the handhelds that aren't the Steambeck or the rodre Ally actually,
but it's like the next gen Intel or maybe AMDA Camera what is But
either way, it's the next gen one and all of them are going to
use that, so you can kind of like maybe get better performance here in
like the next month or two, so maybe hold on. But if you
had to get one, uh Roger ally, if you want to play Xbox
game pas stuff or all the other things, if you have a huge Steam
library, steam Deck is kind of a no brainer. And then Benjamin Highlitz
says, hey, Mike, the new Contrac game isn't out until the twelve.
Reaction to the demo wasn't great though, Okay, that's what I was
probably thinking, kind of coming out and people die on it. Yeah.
I played a little bit of it and was just like mostly unmoved by it.
It's hard because I mean you could just you could just get that Contra
collection and play hardcore in Contra three on your switch right now. I'll just
play those h oh nfour pres with one just now says what studios even left
that Warner Brothers to make their live service and mobile garbage? Same boat,
heead and this that made Supermin sixty four seems like well, I mean,
I mean they still have what's the Suicide Squad team got? Rock Steady.
Rock Steady making mobile games sounds good use of resources. I mean, the
Mortar people are making wonder Woman apparently as a game. He said it in
that breath. What the fuck doing here? I don't he said he also
been played it was a free to play game. I think he was probably
misspeaking real quick nugget. I don't know if I've ever told you guys this,
but it is relevant. Another realm makes their own mobile games, so
there's a precedent there of like a studio actually like making the mobile based on
Yeah, doesn't job of those necessary, Like Jeff said, not good use
of resources in most times, But yeah, I mean if if, if
they're doing it to the exclusion of Triple A games, I think it's a
really bad use of resources. Another realm doing both, fine, that's right.
If rock Steady has to do both in the future, maybe actually still
not a great use for rock Steady, but it's better. It would be
better than only doing mobile games. Like but like as Avalanche, you did
Harvests Legacy? Are they making a mobile game now? And instead of Harvest
Legacy too? Again, Howard's Legacy too. It's gonna take a long time
to make I understand, But like, what's this that mobile game going to
really move the needle? I don't know. Yeah, And if you're gonna
make a Harry Potter Hogwarts survival game, like you just build a small team
like the Skunkworks team to like do that just like all the other survival games
on Steam, and then at the end you build it up and polish it
off and you give it like a bigger budget feel. At that point you
don't need to take avalanche and have them make it instead. I mean,
I don't know. I don't get it a special next as you gents playing
in or enjoying Bilotro. Oh yeah, Jeff, how much I want to
carre us what your playtime is, since you've like given some talks about feeling
bad about playing so much of it, because I think I've played more very
quietly than you. Yeah, no, I did put it aside so I
get to do stuff like beat like a Dragon. So I just remember,
in one weekend I played ten hours and that was too much. Yeah,
my total is like at twenty and I just looked at today and that surprised
me. But yeah, I played a lot of Baltro and it's very fun.
I had my favorite deck today was this kind of all aces deck where
I had that DNA card. I just kept making aces and I had like
other jokers that rewarded me for playing aces and rewarded me for having extra cards
in my deck, like more than fifty two. So it was just a
very good deck, a very fun one to play hours. Holy shit,
let's go. This is a problem, Christian. I'm addicted to this ship.
That's a lot. That's a lot. Well, that's it from the
supertests. Now, if you guys want to send it more, we will
read them before the end of the show. Thank you so much. All
Right, we're gonna take another quick break and we get back. We're gonna
have a game and then well have our big topic of the week right after
this, and we're back. We got things set up here for little game.
That means Sean needs to take it away, go ahead and do so
right now. That's right. It's return of everyone's favorite game show within a
podcast closest to the Messy Pin. This is volume twenty two. We're on
here and now, present by Me Turbo Shawn Power by Metacritic, and it
is of course a Benji Bop original, real quick run through of the rules
because a little bit every round, the guys will be given a certified retro
game that is from ten years ago or older goes to predict the game's metacrirect
score as it stands on metacorrec dot com. We use the closest to the
pin scoring system, which means that the difference between your guests and the correct
answer will be accumulated at the end of every round. If you guess the
exact number, you will deduct five points from your total score, and at
the end of the game, the lowest total scorer wins. And of course,
our newest rule is aj Minatti's rule, where the leader will always pick
first. That way they can't just keep extend their lead. But that's like
golf, so that's fair exactly. So I was informed by the way someone
did their due diligence, thank you Bob, that Jeff won the last one,
which means weird, which means that, let me see, that would
mean that you go first, right, That makes sense? Okay, So
Jeff, I need you to tell me what you think. Medal of Honor,
the original one for PS one, released October thirty first, nineteen nine
to nine. Seventeen critic reviews has on at correct dot com. Seventeen critic
reviews for Medal of Honor Steven Spielberg's Medal of Honor. To be clear,
Michael Giacchino's score. Michael Giacchino's score. Who down directs movies? I guess
really yeah, I think he directed something. Actually looked that up. I'm
like curious what it was. Because great generation. This game got a let's
say eighty A fat eighty two and nice thick with two c's eighty two.
Yeah, people like this game. I'll go a little higher. I'll say
eighty five, eighty five. Alright, let's see nineteen nine nine. This
was kind of before Twins Stick and everything too, as I recall, right
right before it. Yeah, like because a VP I think is the one
that popularized that and then from there. Yeah, anyway, jeez, Medal
of Honor one received a ninety two. Forgot that. This game, yes,
super well received. I mean, this is the reason, this is
the reason we kept getting World War kind of one of the first ones.
Yeah, okay, you forget you forget metal again, you do. It's
actually a very big deal for a while. By the way, Uh,
Michael Giacchinos directed some television stuff and clean Werewolf by Night for Disney Plus,
and that's what it was. A movie called them that is in development wild
alrighty well, then game number two the Herbs sims in the city, as
mentioned on GiantBomb dot com recently, we're looking at the Xbox version November fifth,
twenty four, twenty eight correct reviews. Mike, you are in the
lead, so you will be picked first. I have no idea a sixty
nine. Nice shit, I was gonna say sixty eight. Did you say
that might be exactly right? Yeah? I do. I think I will
go with sixty eight. Okay. Now, I remember the Nintendo versions back
in the day not scoring particularly well because I saw those reviews in Nintendo.
I don't know about the Xbox version though, but it'll be revealed here in
just a second. Herb Sims going to say on the Xbox got seventy.
I was gonna say seventy. The sex number betrayed me. I was just
gonna say seven. Is like I'm saying the sex number, damn it sex.
And if I would have just gone on the other side, I would
have got it exactly right. Damn it sets Okay, okay. Game number
three, Command and Conquer Red Alert for the personal computer, released November twenty
second, nineteen ninety six. We only have six, sorry, seven critic
reviews to work with. Mike. People like Red Alert. I saw Miscommand
and Conquer until red Alart three was when I played because rock Flair was in
it or something. I think it's high. I just don't know how high
I'm going to say in eighty nine. Okay, okay, god damn it.
And I was gonna say ninety. All right, I think I'll go
with it again. I'm gonna go with ninety, all right, fair enough,
fair enough. I was thinking of going ninety Command and conquer. Red
Alert is in that ninety. I should have taken that one. Yeah,
nic, this means that the lead has whipped right with seven points to Mike's
nice right, very nice, very nice. I was thinking, Man,
I've been I thought about two correct answers that I didn't go with. This
is bad. We think about a lot of things. I do think about
a lot of things, all right. Game number four Mass Effect three the
Xbox three sixty version, at least in March six, twenty twelve, As
you can expect a lot of reviews to work with here. Seventy four.
Yeah, that's the error. Ord now I'm first right, Yes, yep,
shoot this is a tough one for me because it's like some of those
reviews would have come in after the backlash. Eighty eight I'm gonna say,
eighty eight, Okay, still a good score? Yeah, yes, I
think I gotta get a score star. I think I got a good score
too. I don't think that a lot of that review mess really impacted the
scores. That was kind of a different conversation. I mean the ending mess
excuse me me, uh, eighty eight is probably pretty close. Probably once,
even though it should be lower, party wants to go higher, even
because people were really a mess fit at this time. Yeah, but that's
cowardly. I'll go, oh I maybe maybe all right, maybe enough later
reviews came in and took it down a little bit. I'll say eighty seven,
okay, go with the under at eighty seven. Well, Mass Effect
three received a three. Still, that's gotta be one of the less talked
about. Ninety three. Well, I've talked about for the wrong reasons.
Maybe am I mis remembering this? Didn't this game ending lick and they they
change it, and then the ending they came they just you know, the
game came out. Everyone hate the ending, so they changed I think the
ending was changed for the DC expression or like the fan of edition or whatever
it was. Yeah, all right, well we're saying at Jeff with twelve
points on board, Mike with fifteen, pretty close game going into game number
five. Need for speed shift for on iOS December seventeen, two thousand and
nine, six critic reviews to work with your Jeffrey, Ea, that's the
theme. Is it justa took me a second? Yeah? Alright, the
need for speed shift for iOS with fucking six reviews. So really it could
be anything good luck, let's give him go. But I hate how Mike
is that that it's a mobile game from two thousand and nine. I'm gonna
go with eighty four, Okay, seventy five. Michael's very confident with that.
I think I think I'm gonna make it up here. Uh, you
guys have been boned on mobile games before. I'm really curious here, I
have no idea need for speed shift for iOS? From six craik reviews.
Has a lord a game in two? People are like, oh, I
got a thing for speed on my iPhone? Who would imagine such a day?
What possible? What? What are these jets? I means? Remember
these Oh? My god, it was like a data gift generator for bad
in one year, I have an erections. As Bob points out in chat,
now that's the least talked about ninety four ever. Holy wow, Well
that does mean that Jeff wins twenty two points to Mike's thirty four. Apparently
you didn't play Deeper Speed Ship, but I phones one of the best games
ever. Based on six reviews, people can ctviews related to this game.
By the way, we do have a quick update on Fantasy Critic. We
mentioned a couple of weeks ago that if anyone wasn't quite feeling Fantasy crick and
they were looking to give up their spot, that they could let me or
Bob know and we would handle it. Well, we do have one opening
in the Fantasy crick League right now, so if you are already a podcast
producer and he didn't get in there right away, you can reach out to
Bop in the discord and potentially get that spot. I don't recommend signing up
for the Pagreon just for that, but I will just say reach out to
Bob first either way, and we'll probably do first come first sir. If
you really want that spot, we'll give it to you. Cool, excellent,
Thank you Sean, thank you, Bob. Really appreciate it. If
I can get this ready, Okay, what we're gonna do is one more
quick break. Will we get back. We're gonna do the best Games of
twenty seventeen. Right, I'm back with what apparently is the sexy bald guy.
What is that a reference to? Well? I so when we were
in Universal, we did this show there called the The Horror Makeup Show,
which was very fun, but it's almost kind of like a comedy bit,
like they're demonstrating like classic horror makeup techniques, but they are doing comedy stuff.
We were sitting in the front row, me and my brother, some
other people. There were a lot of baldies in the front, so the
lady kept like referencing it and making jokes. But I look at all the
sexy bald guys. Then when I saw this shirt Universal Store, It's like,
oh, that must be a running gag that they do at that show.
So I bought the shirt. But then apparently christ was convinced. I
actually just asked the Universal Twitter account. Apparently it's a Shrek shirt. Apparently
it's about Shrek. Oh, that's a funny. Yeah, it's very funny.
Nonetheless, I have this shirt that says just another sexy bald guy.
Yeah, well I like the shirt. It looks good on you. Make
it very cool. At my shirt, you should be saying some new,
some new stuff on me. So yeah, do you have a pretty good
merch hall when you were there? Mostly that I bought a few packs of
Lokana at Disney Springs, I know, were like my best packs ever.
They definitely juice those what's up? Not really, but it was good.
And uh, I got my buddy likes the Simpsons and like at the Simpsons
like Rydan merch store, like for all the things where it's like, oh
it has like a key chain or a shot class for your name on it.
They have ones that say Bort like in that episode. So I got
them a shot glass that says bort Alright. Best Games of twenty seventeen,
Oh baby, here we go go. This is gay, This is gonna
be. This is a big year. This is a big year. I
mean I'll start Breadth of the wild. Yeah yeah, but real quick is
this year's almost a size. It's gonna be our last year with some handheld
stuff in it. In the traditional way. But really, yeah, goodbye
handhelds. Yeah by handhelds. Uh Yeah. Breath for the Wild Huh.
That's a good video game that I like very much. And it uh,
it is everything everyone has always said it is. It is that important,
it is that big, it is you know that freeing when you're playing it,
And they just nailed it right out of the gate. It was the
game that, like I always imagined and I couldn't believe it when I was
actually playing it. It was just so good to see a bit of a
shakeup to the Zoda formula, which was always very good. But we have
been getting games pretty similar to Link to the Past specifically, and even more
similar to OK, Rating of Time for a good long while now, and
they were always good games. But and this was the right shake up,
right it was. They did all the they made all the right choices.
If they were going to take the Zelda formula and kind of put it to
turn it on its head, it's like, well, let's take some inspiration
from the original Zelda and and see like what it would feel like if we
were to make that game today. And they just did that and they nailed
it. Yeah, how about I come at you end with Super Mario Honesty
weird what Yeah? And again these two games come out this year as saying,
Super Mario Odyssey is the best Mario game ever made. It's the best
three D platform ever made. It might be the best video game ever made.
To me, it is just so much fun. The movement in this
game, the level design is immaculate. All the things that should be gimmicks
somehow feel fully fleshed out. Of all the games where you kind of have
capture enemy still their ability kind of things, even Kirby games, I don't
know if any of them have done it better than this, and with that
incredible payoff at the end where you capture Bowser and how much fun that is,
the fact that the game got kind of weird, like you did have
like the just we're in a city level or like the kind of scary dragon
world. Just incredible stuff. Oh in the festival level right at New Song
City with that song God. I played through this game multpile times. I
think about it even more. Uh. Yes, a Super Mario Odyssey is
one that I uh It's one of the more recent games that I've replayed.
The most part of that is the kids want to play it a lot.
But even before the kids were into it, I was replaying it really regularly,
So I think I've been at like three and a half times, four
times. I'm like in that range, and I'm always playing it now because
of the kids, and I zero complaints. I am glad to always be
playing this game. It rules. It's got so many great ideas, and
that's that's the thing with the Mario team other games since like at least Galaxy,
I mean even go back to sixty four. All these three D Mario
games always have a ton of ideas in them, and the best ones are
like feel like it's bursting at the seams, and this is definitely one of
those cool I would I'm going to put Player Unknowns Battlegrounds on here. Shit,
yeah, because it is one of the best games of twenty seventeen.
It is I think easy to dismiss now, even though it is still a
good game. It is it is from a distance, it looks jankier than
what it really is. What that is is actually possibility space is what you're
seeing there. It is almost anything can happen, and it's similar to Hell
Divers in a lot of ways. It's not as refined as Hell Divers,
but it has a lot of similar like every action is going to have a
consequence, and there is something much more scary about this one than a lot
of the other Battle Royale games, to the point where like hiding that bathroom
actually felt like you were terrified and you were like you did not want to
walk out there because you did not know it was on the other side of
the door. And getting a solo win in that game felt like so much
more accomplished than so many other of its peers. Yeah, but the player
pubg is is still really special to me. I played a ton of it
in twenty seventeen. It's a very good game, and definitely I think it
still holds up. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to go back to
it. But you know, when we're talking about best games of twenty seventeen,
it's definitely in that conversation. Yeah, I know, and those ever
really my thing. But obviously a good game, obviously an incredibly important game.
Let me come out to you with near Automata, automata whatever people say
automata Yeah this, Uh, I mean god, people are still talking about
this game, right, uh, which it was a surprise hit, and
it seems like it's somehow only bigger. Whenever they that sequel does come out,
people are going to freak out. I think that they did a good
way of they did a good way of finding that sort of weirdness that had
always been a part of a Tarro's shtick, making it just a bit more
mainstream in a way that more people can get access to. You have all
these really fun characters in this weird world. Fun maybe isn't the word very
interesting characters right, A lot of melanchols I want to die, Yes,
they all want. Everyone wants to die, and a lot of them get
their wish at their wish. But the whole multiple endings thing is really fun
in this. I love like the areas where the game is kind of actually
secretly a dual stick shooter. So yeah, near On Mada still sticks out
to me a lot. Wolfenstein to the New Colossus. This is a game
that I another one. I'm got so many great games from twenty seventeen,
this is another one where I think about it pretty much constantly. A huge
part of that is it was the right game for its time in term in
terms of its storytelling, for in terms of showing a world in which white
supremacy is this like nebulous threat that is both ultimately very threatening and also ultimately
very incompetent, and also like the bj blast Quitz's relationship to that as also
being a white person and what that means, and how just having a white
body doesn't necessarily necessitate the choices you make, and they like literalize that later
when he gets the Ultimate Aryan body for reasons in that story that are incredible,
some of the coolest moments in that game. You get that body,
and yet it's like, Okay, this is I now have a nonz the
Airyan body. What does that mean for who I am? It's like,
no, that doesn't matter. It is still the choices you make that matter,
and it helps. It deals with what do you do when when the
family you come from are filled with hate? How do you deal with that?
It deals with a pis drunk Hitler shooting Ronald Reagan. It looks like
it's got some incredible moments that I'm just desperately in all of especially when you
realize the game had to have been written at a time before we knew like
Trump was going to be President and to have that game come up at that
same time and just come out and be there and just say here's what's happening.
It blew me away. The game itself is like not top tier,
but I still have fun playing it. It's still very good. Yes,
I think I prefer the gameplay of the previous Wolfenstein right before that, but
this one's still very good. Yeah, it's obviously amazing stuff. Sonic Mania
maybe actually the best game ever made. Gosh. I love the fact that
they made it look like the games but made it look better. Just a
lot of it was just by adding more animation frames here and there, and
how awesome that looks the games. Even though it has a lot of like
bringing back old levels, the game's actually often that's best when it has new
levels. Press Garden looks incredible. There's that Wild West level that I really
love the way that Yeah, yeah, of course it has some callback slash
member barriers, but when it doesn't really right, like, oh surprise,
the boss of this level is a match of Doctor Robonix mean Bean Machine that
is just incredible. I'm not sure we're ever going to get a Sonic game
this good again. I mean, you know, they team tried making their
own two D song game last year. It just wasn't close. Yep,
Sonic Maydea is the sonic game I love. So that's how you know it's
actually good, I mean, and maybe deserving to be on this list.
If I like it must be it's very good. Yeah. They just did
a good job of finding the fun and sonic and and amplifying that above all
else. I really do enjoy Sonic Bandia this. I think this is the
year that Steamroll Dig two came out. You like that one a lot.
I love Steamroll Dig two. I think about I talked about what that game
is. It's a loop of you go down underground, you dig, you
explore, you do the Metroid Vanya stuff, you get some new ability or
you don't get, maybe get a little bit of currency, and then it
enables you to buy some little item that's gonna enable you go a little bit
further in the next time, and you just do that over and over again,
and you are then getting cool new like mobility items. They enable you
to do double jumps or hubbs and all these things, and every little thing
you get you do just makes the game, excuse me, better and better
and better and the inspiration more fun and more quick, and I just adore
that game. Yeah, you know, I finally did play it after a
long time, and I did enjoy it. I did have fun with it,
for sure. Oh bloy, Persona five came out this year. Ye
wait for that. This is gonna be fucking brutal. Yeah. Persona five
is very very good. I think they found you know, it will always
have similar Persona three and four. They did some smart things, especially with
the dungeon design. I don't mind the kind of uh like randomly generated dungeons
in the other games, but these bespoke dungeons that are able to have more
set pieces and puzzle elements and just cool stuff like that. They really do
stick out as as being great. I don't know, this is my favorite
cast in a Persona game, but there's some good characters here, for sure.
I mean, this is still a lot of people's favorite Persona for sure,
and I know roy Royal improves things for a lot of people. But
I just only played this version and still was a great time. Yeah,
this is this is gonna be really really rough because there are like a couple
more games I think could easily make it. I would like in a later
year, I would definitely be putting getting over it by been at fody on
a list like this, but I'm not even gonna try. There's like Gorri
goa that really awesome puzzle game that had so many cool ideas in it.
There's a ton of stuff I'm trying to like. I feel like there's it's
like Samus Returns. I really like, there's like a handhold, there's a
handful. I'm like, man, that the stuff that could be considered.
But I'm already getting to a point where I don't know when I'm gonna cut
just to get down to five. Right. Coppet came out this year,
right man, Splatoon two I love. I mean I was talking about about
you like Gravity Rush Too very recently because they announced or not that ounce there's
rumored as a remaster. Uh and yeah, that was this year. I
really like Gravity Rush Too. Wonder Boy. That Dragon's Trap is actually kind
of low key one of the best remakes ever. That was this year.
Start to Bridge Crew actually one of the best dr games. Divinity Original Sin
Too is kind of just put before Borders Gate three. Yep, do you
are you still holding one back? No? These are kind of I just
kind of rapid fire some big one here that I think are me Hollow Night.
Oh shit, it's Hollow Night this year? Yeah, double track,
Hollow Night was twenty seventeen. I was like, spoon, Oh yeah,
Holliday for sure is absolutely we believe said needs to be considered that game.
Oh my god, we're gonna fight over Hollow Night and fucking Steam World.
Dig shit? Do you want to put Horizon zero down on the list?
Look, I I liked Horizon zero. Don I think that's a very good
game. I think it's a tough year for it to be in the top
five. I feel this same exact way about Pray twenty seventeen, the game
that the more I've played it, the more I enjoyed it. But fun
game. It's a fun game, and one thing definitely is like worth highlighting
as a standout from the year. It would have a tough time on this
list. Should we see what the community is suggesting. I think that's I
think that's where we're at right now. Okay, give me a second to
get that happening, everybody. Let's see here, go back there for a
second. I just a lot good games this year, Yes, there is.
It's incredible. They just called that game, by the way, yep,
just pray twenty seventeen. They just and they like, I think the
story was bethesta. It's just like you're calling it that. Good Luck said,
what the hell are you talking about? Why? Actually, hey,
guess what? Remember did we do the here? It is? No,
that's ten minutes ago. Okay, So people are adding stuff right now.
Okay, is this right? Twenty seventeen game of the Year. Yeah,
there it is, Okay, there I was put up at Yep. Yeah,
I just said ten m ago and I don't know what that means.
That means the last one was added? Then, all right, Legend of
Zelda Breath of the Wild from hosp of course, that's the first one mentioned.
And I'm not too surprised about that at all. Bench JC says PERSONA
five. Adam Juice says near automata. Nick Turbo says Mario's nipples, super
Mario. I just got I remember when we saw Mario's nipples for the first
one. I'm freaking out. That's crazy. You think there should never mind,
there's just gonna be more hair there. Why would I suggest such a
thing. I think you just you just like youth is you think it's so
normal for there to be hair there? Yeah, like everyone's nipples have hair,
right, what Mario should have a little bit more hair? Yeah,
Casual says yah Kuza Kawami. It's Italian. Did Yakuza zero come out twenty
seventeen as well? Zero? Mateive? And I know Zero is a lot
of people's favorite did a Cura tory? I'm gonna die? What's going on
here? Oh no, yeah, that's news. Just broke on Twitter alone.
Oh that's a change. Oh, rest in peace to Kira Toriamo.
Wow that is very sixty eight. Wow. Okay, yes, wrestle trails
all right? Moving on here, rebirth Wolf says Cuphead, uh screaming Madden
has put Tom Brady into cappy here, so Madden eighteen slash. There you
go, Super Marios. Did it deflate his balls when he did that?
Yeah? Probably classic? Lenny Cool dig Denver is also saying Super Mario Odyssey
with the picture of Mario and a sombrero high as hell. Yeah, there
you go. Fluod Sachs is also doing Super Mario Odyssey with the dinosaur.
Wezeman says mass Effect Andromeda that was this year. I don't deny that that
fine thing. Two time champ beef Hammer says Super Mario Odyssey. That seems
to be the popular choice right now. Ali Merricle Servasa Crystal Crystal the K
says A final final Fantasy fourteen storm Blood, Yes, this is this is
the expansion in between Heaven's Ward and Shadow. Why am I blinking on that
right now? Shadows? Thank you, that's a weird brain part. It's
good. I don't think it's as good as a lot of as like those
expansions, so it kind of gets forgotten about. But it's still had a
lot of stuff. Hey, I had the Red Mages, that's what we
got those. So thank you, storm Blood. Did you get Heaven's Word
on one of burlass? Are you were still waiting to patrick Shadow Bringers?
When I'm going to be making that fight? Okay, mister Buller says,
A breath of the wild doesn't make it a gift? What's uh? It's
not giffing? Are there? Goes Lady stan I will make you understand,
and she's gonna be all right. Well, she's doing her the flowers raised
all right. I just wanted to see I want to see it through Flobotron
says Divinity original Sin to Doomidal Crossing says yeah, Breath of the Wild.
God man, those guardians firing at you with those laser games really are really
are very scary. Alex does mention Mario Kart eight Deluxe one. That's like,
you know, later year, we could debate about whether or not that
should make the list. Probably probably not though, just because it is still
Mario Kart. You're about to play a lot of that game tomorrow. I
got out of it. Yes, although we might call you in to do
like orbital strikes, to like keep things interesting if if someone far ahead,
I think you're supposed to like recommend bonus things, if you want to hop
on the hop on the call to do that or do hang on informed of
this when I signed up, what is going on? Well, the Dan's
idea was to have you do it. I'm like, Sean's competing, there's
no way he'll be fair. Super harm it says, you know, like
Chronicles two. What do you think? Nah? Uh, it's because you
just hate breast right with your wokeal agenda. Yeah, you know, I
know you love making your lists. Yeah, absolutely personally pro the female form.
What do you want? Man? Uh B says near teaches you the
fine dining arts of enjoying thine ass all right? Fair uh d m C
depressed me crying says the hat had in time? Is that a hat in
time? Correct? A hat in time which I've only played a very tiny
bit of. I think I lost my fervor for it with the whole what's
his name being in there? Oh right? John Tron? John Tron?
And then I was just so how whatever chaos Buckaroos says Assassin's Creed Origins.
I was enjoying Origins that I got to Alexandria, and I remember I got
into some part where I had to drive a carriage through those streets. It
was one of the jikier things I'd ever done in a triple A game,
and it it kind of was so distasteful to me that I was done with
the game. I don't know why that bothered me so much. Yeah,
I liked Origins. I think that was Assassin's Creed. Honestly, was the
Greek one after this that I think was most people's favorite of these kind of
big ones. That's the one I played the most stuff, and I really
did enjoy that. Nothing but an a laya thing says near Automata disposable contents
as super Mario Odyssey. I do love that. This is a screenshot of
Mario Odyssey. Just this angry dragon yep Seraphs Gaines says Yee's eight Yez.
I actually always play some Ye's eight on my Steam deck. I do like
this one. This is the Tropical Island one, which is fun. Yeah,
Moosa of Dana, sure, okay, I'm sure. Resident Evil seven
from Jedi Moss. What do you think you ever played this one? This
one was too spooky for me. Yeah, it was too spooky for me
at the time. I had to play it E three with VR and it
was terrifying. I watched a playthrough of it before I reviewed eight. I
think I'm a big boy now. I think I could handle this one.
But Jedi Moussa has have a good point. This is kind of the star
of the Capcom resurgence right here. This is the first Ari Engine game,
right Yeah, wow, good point deal reviving that franchise and giving Capcom a
very big boost. Razzle Jasel says Blossom Tail so Sleeping King, which is
a Zelda like that? I don't know much about that one. I have
it on switch. I played a little bit of it. It seems pretty
cool. Tommy Pencils says A Breath of the Wild with the horse God there
the horse King Klink says Pray. Twenty seventeen. Jamie H. Christmas Eve
says West of Loathing. I've never played this, but people bring it up
all the time, and I don't know why I haven't tried it. Be
honest with me. Does a stick figure things throw you off? It must?
Consciously I would be like, no, of course not, but I
think subconsciously it's like, well that's not important a little bit. I'm sure
I'm wrong, but I think I think I know I'm wrong, but I
can't help myself. Ampanati Eaters is Wolfenstein to the New Colossus a game that
I just need to find some reason to replay. Terryaki Blue says what remains
of Edith Finch? And I'm just I'm always gonna be like, I'm fine
with that game. It's okay. Did you ever play Edith Finch? No?
No, that doesn't it look like my thing. But maybe I'd enjoy
it. I don't know. It's like, you know, it's like a
more there's more going on in it, but it's like, at its heart,
kind of a walking simulator, but it's it's telling you a story and
stuff. I just I like, that's your problem with it? No,
My problem with it is that there's a scene where, you know, basically
the story is always people in this family are cursed and they keep dying,
and it's like, well, one of the reasons they died is, uh
that one was a baby and someone left them in a bathtub and said,
what the fuck do you think is gonna happen? You should just stay there
with the baby. Why am I supposed to feel bad for these people when
they're doing stupid shit like that? Yeah, I'm like, no, I'm
no think I feel nothing for these people, feel for the baby? Uh
Joys? Is this near Automata? Yeah? Yeah, the last seeing the
last? Oh yeah, ps, this is near Okay, you admit there
is no meaning to this world? Yes, okay, Low Rules says Breath
of the Wild, Dan Fiasco is showing near Automata. Are you surprised us
how often how popular choice near Atamta is? No, I'm not surprised at
all. I know people love near Automata. Good stuff. I mean,
listen this on the soundtrack of all the time. It's it's a banger.
Input name here, says Fire Emblem heroes Man. That was the best thing
to come from that whole mobile initiative, wasn't it. I think so?
Yeah, well I really like me Tomo, but sure you it? Yeah.
Uh Saklin says Player Unknowns Battlegrounds. We need to do a tn T
with Battlegrounds. We need to make that. Let's fucking go uh t tka
Graven zero zero zero says Super Mario Odyssey. This is funny. One of
those little woodpecker birds with the game Mario a dick, Yeah, the pecker
part sticking out of Mario's crotch. Adams GC says Uncharted the Lost Legacy.
I should play this. I know people swear by it. Yeah, it's
very good. Uh there's a little bit of a villain washing. I guess
you could say, I don't know if that's the thing. What do you
call it? The vegetating, but yeah, the vegeta effect very unpue.
Yeah, it's it's very fun. I think it does a good job of
kind of doing like this a smallish open world, but still making it effective,
still make it feel like un charted, and there at the end they're
basically like, Hey, everyone likes that train level from in Charge too,
Let's just do another train level at the end of this one, and big
surprise it rules. Yeah. I love the Charge. I wish that they
would just make more like these has worked slightly smaller experiences with some of the
side characters. I'd be super down for more of that. This is a
good, good, good fun all right. T money og also says pub
G shoot Hot. American on Summer says arms I was one of I wonder
if someone's gonna bring up arms, we should do an arms tn T as
well, maybe just with us, maybe an arms race, an arms race
there it is, got Mike all right, Giant Bomb engages in the arms
race. Uh Freedom MC Liberty Ball says super Mario Odyssey Prodigal pan Sexual Eden
says Gravity Rush too. Warding Club says diaggan rounpa V three. You think
that's the Is that the eighth one or the fifth one? Version of three?
What do you think you should five plus three? Is that we here
suggest? I don't know because I don't know either, But you can't have
an you can't have a road Nuberol and the number. Yeah, guys,
guys, there's a legit fantastic story reason for why it's called that that we
can try to talk about. It's a very very guy. I won't say
it's hourly to talk about it. It's because she breathes through her skin,
like, what are you doing? Probably Isaac Clark also says he's eight lachrymosa
of Dana White Laser Wolf's his horizon zero dawn. Uh Bradfish says hollow night.
This is the first person to mention hollow night. I'm not sure that's
right. I think somebody else might have I do only anyone who cares about
holiday. Michael Riley says President Anvil seven. He got Days forty two says
Mario Ottasy Persona five is eld Abreth, the wild and hollow Night? How
weird? Uh dayson Man two says Neo uh Ship Rais Racer says the hollow
Night. You know what I haven't seen is a fucking steam two class.
Rainer's gonna fucking destroy him here by mentioning Bubbsey the Wooly strike back before the
world dig two eat shit visure forty that says Fortnite. Wait is that right?
That ye? But the Battle Royale did not come out un till twenty
eighteen. I think, okay, well, yeah, let's not worry about
safety. That's right. Didn't come out early access twenty seventeen. I think
it came out right after PUBG You know what's fucked up? Twenty seventeen,
truck. I could never put twenty year on a timeline, Like, so
you're telling me I was playing Breath of the Wild and then Mario and then
I spent a ton of time playing PUBG all in the same year, and
I played all the soup shit as well. How is that possible? Because
eighteen was when the furnit blew up, like everybody. Everybody loved Forna,
even the famous people. I was like, what, yes, yeah,
the famous people. That's right, man, Buggy Delos is dead. Cells
was twenty seventeen? Is that? Cells? When I look up that sales,
I don't see it on this Wikipedia list an early after early process only
for the full release. Then Big Tony, the Final Fantasy Guy says Bred
the Fire, I know the five greatest games of all time. Brother of
the Wild Breath of the Wild, Breath of the wild, Breath of the
wild, and breath of the wild. Because it spits hot fire, always
be clothing. Slash Corgi says, god, what is this game called Knight
in the Forest? No? What was it? Yeah, Knight in the
Woods. And then uh, and then there is the Lady Fox from Major
Magic's right next to it. So there you go, everybody, fucking terrifying.
Hamlet of Texas says, knit Hoog two is twenty seventeen, That's what
it's weild. That Nidhog two is that long ago? Man, I love
nithog Uh the evil within two from It's a rougie. Matt Rare Monkey says
yeah. Coza zero Uh that Bob boatrow Boppo Trow Uh says yeah, Couza
zero. J D. Camp says Steam World Dig two, Mike Mike mcquanchie's
face on it, like the quatche version like one point zero. Yeah.
Uh. Willow David Willow David as I missed the world when there was still
love left in it for the Nintendo Switch. Man, that's really good.
Oh, I love it. What does that small Prince say? Sometimes you
simply know when you recorded the worst podcast in history, pre history history.
It's great. That's really good work, Willow Davis, well done. Uh,
Doctor Ryan says Persona five weed hater says Thimbleweed Park. You played this
right, Mike. I did like Thimbleweed Park. This was Ron Gilbert's first.
I'm gonna just make like an old school scum style and switch to make
a tuk a fun talk fun talk money. Yeah, I put on switch
when like, yeah, just any indie game on Switch made a ton of
money, feels a decent quality. This gets good. The ending gets a
little too meta, which is a problem that return Monkey Allen also has a
little bit of but very fun game. Anyways, Sir was all night long
deal, strange man holiday right where he's eight love Then there is for uh
Sonic Mania cast good, says Crash Bandicoot Insane Trilogy. Oh that is that
those are? That was a ton of fun, just having three great remakes
in a well done remake for games that aren't very good. But yeah,
shut the hell up. Uh Turbo shaans is. I think I guess this
is personae, Jeff her persona is a motorcycle. You have no idea how
hard I popped when I saw this that that's pretty cool. Do you like
thirteen? Also? No, that game sucks Somebody Somebody Summon is a motorcycle
in that game? Yes, it's true the snow. Yeah, all right,
boy, what a year? Oh are we adding anything that we've left
off? Because right now we have Breath the Wild, Super Mario Odyssey,
Brett Player Unknowns, Battlegrounds Near Automata, Wolfenstein to the New Colossus, Sonic
Comedian, Steam World, did two Persona five in Hollow Night. It's hard
like as games, I kind of want to that, but I just don't
really know. Like, boy, seeing that Loss of Legacy came out this
year, seeing that Fortnite came out this year is sort of messed up.
Yeah. Yeah, And then like Mario and Rabbits did come out this year.
That is because it feels very much like that would have come out way
later because we had that was like when we were like, they're gonna make
a Mario and Rabbids game, that's when, and it felt like it was
rumored for forever. So I just really cannot put this year on a timeline
at all. Sur Probably how much Ye's eight loved the Western of the community,
maybe I need to go back and play more of that. Again,
I've never touched any's game I need to. They're like, they're fund They're
relatively simple in terms of the mechanics of being action RPGs, but they're fun,
they're nice. You accuse of zero. I just think we haven't played.
I know there's a lot of love for that, but yeah, so
I've started a couple of times, and I enjoyed what I've played of it,
but it's not gonna be able to play on this list, all right,
Yeah, I think this is our list so far. Let's let's have
the conversation now of is number one Mario Odyssey or Breath of the Wild?
That's number two. Yeah, I mean, listen, at the time,
there's no doubt in my mind that it was Breath of the Wild. I
think that I would be okay with making it Mario Odyssey now because of Tears
of the Kingdom. I think Breath the Wild is probably one of the most
important games ever made. But yeah, that's my thing here is that I
always like to Mario aisy more. It's definitely not as important a game as
Breath of the Wild, not even close. But I keep blaming Mario Odyssey
and I love every second of it. Yes, like yeah, yeah,
absolutely it's number one. I won't see if that gets on the list,
that's gonna make a list. I let's make it Mario Odyssey. I feel
good about that, yeah, because I mean, yeah, yeah, that
sounds right. More about it's less that. Oh, I don't think marioc
should be number one, as I feel weird. Breath for the Wlout is
not number one exactly right. It's like, if if there was such thing
as a tie, I would just do that here, right, And I
just you know, Mario Otsy to me is unassailable. It's like, I
mean, they didn't need a sequel. It just is so good the way
it is. Okay, let me ask you this, because there's a lot
of very Jeff grub games here. Yeah, which one would do you want
on this list the most? I think that though, I think I do
want pubg on the most. And then it would go wolf and start too
And I'm seeing now steam World Dick two is not going to make this list.
Hey. The reason more people didn't mention it is because not enough people
have played it. Go play steam World Dick two. It's so good,
everybody, please go play it. I will. Here's what I am like,
what are the one like? Here's here's the two I think I do.
I won on the list all right because I like song made a ton.
I don't think that's gonna happen. Yeah, that sounds right like Charlost
like I want It's near and Hollow night that I won on the list.
Okay, that's kind of what I figured. Well, no, I'm surprised
you're gonna leave Persona five off. I really like Persona five. We've getting
a lot of Persona. It ain't the best Persona. It isn't the best.
Yeah, I less it does certain things better than the other ones that
there's certain things more story and like character wise, I maybe don't like as
much. There's a very little complain about Persona five. It's just a very
very very good year. I'm gonna put about three at five and then and
then I think that it makes sense to me that Near Automata, well,
let's listen, I'll put it. Okay, here's where it's hard for me,
because I think Near Automata is interesting as cool story, great music,
cool characters, and I don't like playing it very much. I will Designed
two has all those things and I like playing it a little bit better.
So that's where I'm that's where it's difficult for me to like leave off Wolf.
It's Stein too for Near, but it's not the end of the world
for me in that case. Let me say this, because I want Hall
of Night on it more than Near. Well, well, I think Hollow
Night's gonna make it good. I think I think holod I can go up
to three if you want it. I'm fine with that. Again, it
got a lot of love on on from the community, and you know,
as much as we me men, I know people adore Hollow Night, and
I know how much you like it. So yeah, I'm okay with it
being at three. Okay, so this is this, I admit this is
a tough one here. Then if Near or Wolf and Stein too, that's
difficult. Yeah, it's And we could just solve it by just putting steam
Dig two up there. No, not that. If it's like if we
do, I think we go by like some input from the community. Again,
it probably is Near. I think more people like Near, and it
is an impressive story. And I do think that what they're doing with that
game was it was only possible because it's a video game, and so I
like to get points for that. No, but you're right, But you're
right that wolf A Sign two story is very very good. My one only
real complaint with Sign too is I you know, I wish there was a
bit more of an exciting ending, Like you know, the game seemed like
it was terrified of having a final boss fight, as if like that wasn't
appropriate, And it kind of fell a little flat for you because of that.
That's a small thing. Hm. Okay, I ask you guys a
quick question since you brought up well, since you brought up the community involved
that, well, let me just ask you, and you brought this up.
You mentioned what would be weirder to leave off? Which is the weirdest
game to leave off? Persona five, Near Automata or Wolfenstein. Probably Near
in terms of whatever. But it got brought up by the community a bunch.
You're right. I just find that I don't know, I found that
really surprising, what you guys have talked about. I figured it would have
been Persona. I thought that I know that a lot of people like Near,
and I'm with them. I'm surprised that it got that much love.
Yeah, I think Near is definitely the one that's like I think would be
a consent still drop pub G for Wolfenstein. We're we're not dropping product.
Then let's putt near four. All right, you could a knife for what
are welcome was saying sorry, but we're not going to do that. I'm
fine with this. So I think that was stay. Actually it was pretty
go good. It's an all I mean, we thought twenty sixteen was good,
and uh, this this year is absolutely insane. There's a lot of
very big games that we were leaving off here and I you know, it's
tough, but we got to pick five. Yeah, I mean honestly,
like I'm looking like a wolf and Stein two, Sonic Media, Steamroll Dig
two. It's like, oh that that's just could just be the start of
like a top ten for me. Right there. There's just another list,
and there's games that we like, they even put on here that we would
have put on other years because it's just already crowded. Things like Lost Legacy
or Cuphead even which is a very good game. Yeah, Nadi Original Sin
Too is a very good Zay got brought up left like even Pray, Like
yeah, I like Pray, Gosh, Gravity Rush Choo is a game that
I liked a ton. I just even really bothered time out much like that's
not happening. I think I got Gravity Rush one up very high and it's
you anyway, So that's fine. Yeah, very very very very good year.
Yep, I broke my browser, so won't be able to tweet it
for a second. And let's see this response. This seems like it's gonna
work. Yeah, so well, I'll tweet that here in a second.
But why don't we move on to what we've been doing to read it out
loud one more time for Oh yeah, that's right me. I'm meant to
have you do that. Could you read it out? Please? Mike Manati
Best Games of twenty seventeen. Number five Player Unknowns Battlegrounds also known as pub
G number four near A Taumata. Number three It's Hollow Night. Two is
the Legend of Zoda Breath of the Wild. Number one is Super Mario Odyssey.
All right, we do. We've done good work here and I am
prepared now to be destroyed on Twitter for my crimes. There we go before
I talking about let's yep, We're gonna take a quick break and then we'll
talk about the games we've been playing right after this and we're back and let's
let's talk about what we've been playing. Mike, what do you have you
been getting into? Have I been getting into what els I've been doing?
And was I got them? Oh? I played more common mythologies Jesus Christ.
Yeah, there's that fuck Jesus Christ is right. Yeah, yeah,
I know it's bad, but I don't know that. I've been playing Bilacho.
I talked about that, like, Oops, all Aces run. That
was a ton of fun there. I kind of like, I think my
input for me is winning with every deck, which at least once, and
you have to kind of win on certain like difficulties whatever they call it,
to unlock more decks. Once I unlock all every deck and win with these
each one once, I think I'll be good, which is still quite a
lot. But uh, it's just a very easy it's just a very fun
game to when I'm sitting here and you know there's a little bit of downtime
and you know you're doing one of your shows or somebody else and I want
to watch on twitch or YouTube, just play that. Well, that's happening.
It feels great. It's purely a desktop game for me, which is
different than a lot of people I know who are playing it on like their
switch or like you're playing Windows. Among those you could like do you have
other stuff happening? Yeah, exactly, so I can tap out of it
very easily. But it's a similarly a desktop game. Yeah for me.
Uh, still lots of Persona three. It's very It's like the same habit
I was in when I was playing Persona three Portable on my Vita way back
then, where I like just play an hour of that game every night,
and that means it's going to take like two months to probably play through it
all. But it's very cozy, it's very comfortable, and I really enjoy
getting into that loop. So having a ton of fun with that. But
it is a little bit, you know, like I need to play Unicorn
Overlord. That's gotta be my new kind of night game here at some point,
and uh, you know, I still want to go and play like
a Dragon at some time. So I fel overwhelmed in that sense. But
I don't know. I'm a joint person of three so much that I don't
there's no way I'm going to rush myself. Yeah, I mean it's served,
but you got to like just pick the game you want to be playing
and be happier playing that game. They're they're like getting too worried about all
these things that are passing you by. It's just there's no happiness there.
Yeah, what can you do? So yeah, that's why I was.
I was happy to be like, hey, no, it is time for
Expeditions a motor Runner game. And I had it for a while for a
review and didn't touch it and was kind of bummed about that. So I
was like not ready to cover it when it came out, But whatever,
it's out now. I'm playing it now and it runs great on the Steam
Deck, and that's where I'm playing it every time I turn on my Steam
Deck. Just like every time I was turning on with like a Dragon,
I was playing it there. Now I'm now I'm doing that with this game,
and it's it's really hitting the spot. It really works very well in
terms of just you know, seeing these big tires go over these rocks and
seeing the suspension on the car respond to the to the to the little things
on the ground that these little obstacles, and you know, putting the roll
cage on this little car and having it rolled over and only taking a little
bit of damage and then having the tools to be able to get back up
right and keep going. I love that shit. It's always been good.
It's really good in this game. I think that they mostly have nailed it.
I think they did a pretty good job with it. Yeah. I
played any of these before, which is weird considering much you like them.
You think I just check it out at some point. Yeah, sorry,
you know, And I'm not like. This is not one of those where
I'm like I need everyone else to go play this right now. I understand
this one is very much a me game. This is not like hit Man
necessarily where I'm like, sure, God, I think everyone should be playing
Hitman, because first of all, I want more of it, and second
of all, I think everyone will like that game. But I you know,
I think you will probably find someone enjoying here. There's no way you're
going to it's going to be like the way I feel about it. But
that that's fine. I don't need that from this with you. I want
to play this one. I'm going to at some point. Yeah, And
I think there's a chance you might like it still for sure, especially like
Hey, there's gonna be a co op mode dropping for this here pretty soon,
and once that's there, I think that'd be a great way to play
it. And I was talking to Dan about it. Dan It's like,
yeah, let me know when the cops happening, I'll get the wheel out.
So it's like, yeah, a bunch of reasons to check that out
with other people. But just in terms of it being like this fun little
physics simulation sandbox, and then on top of that, it is you know,
there's no story, there's no dialogue, there's no cut scenes. There
is it is Oh my god, he admits it. Yeah, it's like
a full on a Hella podcast game. I can listen to whatever I want
while I'm doing it, Like just I guess if I was driving in real
life and there's a huge like weight off my shoulder. When a game is
like that where it's like I can just let the id part of my brain
engage with the systems, and the part of my brain that has to like
care about what someone's fucking saying can turn off and that rules or can listen
to people who actually enjoy listening to talk about stuff I enjoy them talking about.
So yeah, it's been ideal. I've really enjoyed it, and I'm
like, again, I'm playing on the Steam deck. Like I said,
it works well there, but I'm going to be very happy to get the
wheel out because these games have a very good support for wheels, and it
is, you know, it's fun to have the the you know, the
force feedback the game, like you know, it's it's reacting when I go
over a bump and it vibrates whatever. What's really cool is when you have
the wheel and you're like turning it and you bump into something and the wheel
force feedbacks and actually forces back, and like it's very hard to turn it.
That's a really cool thing and this game does a very good job of
taking advantage of that stuff. So I'm looking forward to getting back into the
wheel and making that happen as well. Beyond that, though, just kind
of miss around with things here and there. I did play Princess Peaches Demo
Prince's Peach showtime. I think that it's it's exactly what you would have expected
expected from this game. It is for younger audiences and it doesn't get in
its own way with that stuff, and then the things you're doing are pretty
simple, but they're also not necessarily boring, and they go by pretty quick.
And I think having Peach turn into all these other characters, learning that
move set and seeing what's what she's capable of is actually pretty cool. Like
the sword character, the Sword Fighter character that you get, she actually does
have like a which time dodge. Now there's no dedicated dodge button, but
if you attack at the right time or if you jump at the right time,
she just automatically does it. So it's like a very simple, simplified
version of this, but it still looks cool and you can predict it and
do it on command, so it actually still feels cool as well. But
there's not like a ton of that. And then I go do the chef
one, and the chef one's just like, okay, you know, hit
the button to bake cookies, and if you hit the button too many times,
it'll get burned, and if you stop at the right time, you'll
make a huge amount of cookies and you'll fill up this bar. Very simple
stuff, but it is the kind of thing where I'm like, I think
it's fine, and I hand it out to the kid, and the kid's
like mostly into it. She was not like fully bought into it right away,
especially the chef stuff, but the sword fighter stuff they got the handle
on. So yeah, I think it's going to be what people are expecting
and want from it for the most part. But it's not going to be
some new like oh, this hill is like, yeah, this is not
a pillar next to Mario in any way. It's not like the Luigi's mansion.
It's just not going to be that, right, And maybe like that
was optimistically a hope, but very optimistic it. Maybe some people are maybe
hoping for that because we don't have one of these pillars coming out on the
thought, get we have this, We have some remakes right now. That's
all we really know about with the Switch, And you know, I think
more and more of the truth is just that, Yeah, it's going to
be one of the later years for the Switch, obviously as they're ramping up
for the Switch too, that's right. And yeah, these things, these
little inefits of things like I'm glad I tried it, glad I know what
it is, and if the kids like want me to sit down and play
it with them, I will. I would happily do that. But it's
like, you know, Mario versus Donkey Kong came out and I played a
little bit of that. I do have it, and I'm kind of not
going to go back to that, So that's already passed me by, and
I think that would likely happen with this game if the kids aren't actually going
to end up being interested in it. So we'll see what happens. Right,
we are approaching like, oh, this is going to be a long
time. But for like Nintendo Switch, like the Tendo game that I was
really excited about, uh kind of droughts, which doesn't usually happen, Like
when was the last one? Even I'm trying to what was their fall game
last year? Switch something last year? It was the big game last year?
And then right, but did they do anything in the fun and they
had Pokemon DLC and they had Wonder Mario Wonder Mario Wonder. That's oh doub
right something obviously. Yeah, I don't know when we're going to get another
Mario Wonder style or like level game. I like that game a lot,
all right, yeah, uh yeah, so that doesn't for what I've been
playing for the most part, anything else from you, Mike. No,
we got some more super chats though, why do you hit those for me
right now? Please? Connor? What's it? So? Sorry? I
fell for a troll? No knuckles? Don sad face? Yeah, something
to be sad about. Sorry, devastating. Ye, well, David says,
I hope there's a late game furry peach costume? Aren't all peaches furry?
Fuzzy fuzzy? That's gross? Uh? Oh? Gregs is you guys
want to block back? You guys are just eating fuzzy things. Oh,
it's funny. It's about pubic care. It's a funny joke. Oh,
Grugg says, is it too soon to start bitching about the game that's all
fame again? No, we should probably do another one of those soon.
Yeah. Yeah, well we'll get another one going here in the next couple
of weeks. No promises. Ariel Docado says, should we see Creature of
ava as whatever? While could be? I fellas? When does Skull and
Bones go free to play? Law? Where's Beyond Good and Evil remastered?
Okay, so we've got three things here? Yeah, thank uriel U.
Creatures gave us whatever all could be? No differences. No, I have
no idea. I don't think that whatever wild is, I don't think I
don't know if Everweld's did anything. Yeah, when does Skull and Bones go
free to play? You think they would do that? You think they just
like move on. Yeah, it's for god, it's probably not even worth
it because is it, like there's already a free trial. No one's playing
that, So yeah, they probably move on. Ors Beyond Good and Evil
remaster, Yeah we did. There was there like a rating sport something for
that in Australia or something that we thought that was happening. Maybe that pops
off here in the next couple of months. Yeah, so I don't know.
I don't know either. I did see somebody. I have no idea
if it was a good source of not saying that the Fotacy nine remake that
was in the something leak apparently that's been like tooled a lot and video leak.
Who knows, but obviously that is a surface at all. And we're
also waiting for tactics, right, So yeah, we're waiting for Ridge Racer
news from you. I know you're in the middle of your report, so
yeah, patient in there. Wait, wait, I think a lot of
sources are just waiting for the state of the Union to happen. Tonight,
let thems settle down and see what. Yeah, we don't want to overshadow
the state of the Union with the rich. Yeah, yes exactly, Adam
GC, says Jeff. If you're looking for a great zone out series,
track Mania, the track MANI is. Trag Mani is definitely something that I've
enjoyed. For me personally, if I'm going to play a game like that,
it's going to be trials. Trials is my series. It's like,
all right, restart, restart, restart, restart, restart. But I
have nothing against track Many. Track Many is very good as well. Although
you know, right now, I could go play a bunch of that difficult
game about climbing and zone out to that and listen to Stush. So that's
that. Those kinds of games get me into that mood very quickly. And
that's it. Thank you so much everybody for all the super chats today.
Appreciate it. Excellent, Thank you everybody once again. Just ripped to Curatriyama.
That is devastating news. That's real sad. Yeah, yeah said I
wonder like what the future of things like Dragon Quest is going to be and
whether they're going to just continue to use that style. Or is it going
to get new character designers that sand Land was coming out soon too, which
was his art once again. So yeah, yep, so just yeah,
just tons of memories from stuff like that. I mean, for me,
it was like getting early game magazines and every single envelope art section was this
character with spiky hair that looked like it must have been from some weird Japanese
cartoon I'd never seen before, and then later learning that was Goku, and
then then and then finally realized like, oh my god, this is that
show on Cartoon Network. They're playing it. I'm going to watch this.
I've always seen this in video game magazines, and then falling in love with
it, and yeah, absolutely realizing later there was the Dragon Warrior games related
because of Toriyama. Just so much stuff. I remember the first time I
saw Dragon Ball. We were in I was a kid. We had a
trip in Toronto. In our hotel room, we just stubbled across this dubbed
anime. I didn't know what the name was, but there's like some kaio
spiky hair and some a pig wished for girls underwear, Like this is what
you're saying this The kid turned it to a giant Monkey. For years later
dragonball Z was a thing. And then even years later I realized, Oh
I saw like some weird Canadian double dragon ball Okay cool? So uh yeah,
I think he's going to have an incredibly long legacy for sure, Yes,
for sure. All right, thanks for watching everybody, Thanks for hanging
out with us. We will be back with the last of Minute ten dogs
on Tuesday. Let me hit the button here to guess out of here for
real? Mikey, what do you have going on? Where can people find
you all that good stuff? Yeah? Hey, everyone should should watch Super
Dan sixty four so a lot of people have. Thank you. Just again,
I've been fantasizing about Super Dan sixty four for for a very long time
and it was incredible. Jen did in same work with that intro for the
escalation, Jeff, we already had to dress up. Now we got it.
We all need to make great introspit really for guys for thinking about your
game, what is that gonna be? I don't have to Okay, it
could go again. Well if he like starts over like plays it again?
Does his super Man difficult enough? Yeah, that's enough. I'll be fine
with that. Yeah. Still for that up, but no, I mean
you have the uh this Mario Kart thing tomorrow, right, yeah, Mario
Kark Grand Prix, Grand Prix tomorrow, starting pretty quickly after Game Mes mornings,
we'll get set up and we'll get going with that and it will be
non stop Grand Prix and Mario Kart eight Deluxe until we've done them all ninety
six tracks. Track. What's your favorite out of ninety six? Let me
think you. I like that that Coco Nut Mall whatever it is, whatever
it's called. That's fine. Yeah, I like that. They had that
Yoshi's Island track in one of the deal season Oh right, yes, yeah,
that's like the new one. They like, the brand new Yoshi's right
right, yeah. Yeah, Like there's like the one based off the game
Yoshi's Island, and there's a there's like the Zeuta track and that's fun.
Oh. I like the Animal Crossing track. That's the one. I like.
Zero tracks are both very cool, of course. Zero music. Yeah,
Mount Warrio is great. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's one truck we
get to fly through the fly top of some clouds. At some point they
play the Mario Galaxy themes. So yeah, that's the that's the level where
I'm like this, games don't need to look better than this, I think
I don't think it looks so good. Yeah, we have to freak out
when you're at baby park though, that's the that's the party level. Okay,
Yes, we won't make everyone play standing up and having to dance the
whole time or hey, Jeff, real quick, I think since it's had
a special day and time, your Jeopardy guest, Oh yeah, new Jeopardy
guest John Lennman, Sunday, eleven am Eastern time, don't miss it.
You gotta be a patre I member, you know, if you don't want
to miss it. Though, yes, give us here goddamn money. You
can watch it a month from now. I guess whatever shall put to them.
Thanks for watching, everybody till next time. I have to go by.
Take care of yourself and goodbye all the ridge Racer love, go see
and see and the rain packs east everybody, Well who comes to your panel,
but then talk to him later. I know what a clitterist is.
Yeah, I don't get horny break breaking right, all right, let's go
back, kid. Yeah, that that deck the day that gives you,
uh, it starts you with two fools ar kind of cars, and then
you can like quick reset. I quickly start that game all the time to
get the the tag that gives you Omega Arkanda pack the first time to skip
it, and I do all the time when I get like, like,
fuck, it's eight cars Arkinda cars at the start of the run as she's
fell blind. Always the one hundred K one or is it variable? No,
it's always unless you get like the bigger than usual boss line. Yeah.
I think well, if you play hard difficulties, it gets higher.
I was so sad. I almost beat it the other day. I came
up. I came like two k short. Oh that sucks, yes,
so close. Yeah, I had I have like every joker that plays off
of face cards, so it's like face cards retrigger face cards give like times.
Yeah, it was really fun. Yeah, Nick, we were Jan
talked about it on the BombCast during the Step Nextus when it was in there
and uh and so it was like and then we talked about it, and
then the PR person who's like a friend of the site reached out was like,
yoh, you've been talking about this. Here's a bunch of codes.
So we've basically been playing NonStop for like weeks, even before it was coming
out. All right, so let's see, I'm just going to get the
game in here, and you're always so flying on Steam when we tried to
play ourselves, like, I don't blame like a latrolled. All right,
there, it is, all right, we can bring it back in.
All right? How many breaks I'm gonna put so many? I'm just just
like, yeah, I'm gonna take a break. I'm not gonna try to
force it and make it work. I'm not feeling great. Yeah, I'm
just taking it easy. Should I killed the stream first, and then you
do anything you new? I go, yeah, yeah, go and kill
the stream and I'll just put Mikey back here in the middle. There we
go, Thank you, Mikey, my key. I didn't know. One
of them is just someone from the Titans in front of some soccer trees.
One Sampie noticed this, remembering me it was like, what's the game with
the ducks that also had like a SEMPI noticed me. Yes, every anime
game that opera browser. All right, there we go. Why do you
chart to? Wolf? Said that, Hey, Wolf just really wants it,
you know, I did we do a unicorn Overlord for the uh Metacritic
game who won that? We used to get updates on every game uh,
because we'd be like so obsessed. No, I'm like, I don't know
if I can wait till the end of the month. Why do you scratch
yourself over there? Are you like addicted to what's going on? Tell you
what? Eighty eight and potentially climbing that's gonna do good for someone? Yeah?
Shot, see it only matters to that person's me. I don't want
want to hear it otherwise. I finished that, good choice? Oh you
did? Yeah, it's pretty good. I need to do that. I'll
finish it this weekend. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's all I've gotta.
What is it? Send him to the Tent of Cuckoldry doesn't like this
because a long one. It's just like the bad one, right. He
only likes it the solo wit and all that stuff brevity. He likes that.
What is this? I love to wack off the crystal blackmail right there,
Christian? I need that for Sean. Did you see the Lady Fox
from Major Magics in Clinton Township, Michigan? No, but I heard that
while I was editing the dump Trush to day. I was like, oh,
okay, so I'm not here, and he noticed, so he thought
I was safe to talk about what's going on. Well, fair enough.
I'll send you some Jpeggs later, don't worry, tell you all right,
I am set up by hitting this button here. Actually, let me move
my key down a little bit and then we'll be ready. Let's see,
Mike, you chop off his head. Yep, I'm gonna get there.
We go. Oh right, four? Okay, are we good? Everyone
good? Yeah, I think we're good. All right, all right,
quick, all right, good deal. All right, Mike, you gotta
do anything to go to the or anything? Alright? All right, yeah,
just give me a second, let me all right, just finished this
tweet. I was kind of quiet. I was like, crying a little
bit. You just crying a little bit over PERSONA. But I don't want
to talk about it. That absolutely destroyed over PERSONAA. Dude. Oh sure,
sure, yeah, I'm aware gave. I think we gave. I
think we had percent three and four on the list. That's fine, all
right, yep, that's rod bummer about Toriyama. Yeah, alright, let's
it, let's go back in. Yep. No,