1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,839 He has no idea how much he broke my heart and how much I think 2 00:00:03,879 --> 00:00:06,879 he's a fascist, and like, might never look at their music the same 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,759 now, and I'll never go to another one of their concerts again. We 4 00:00:09,759 --> 00:00:13,080 were in our thirties, like we were Yeah, we were there. We 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:19,039 were still chick, we were still firm and suppall we hadn't reached the hen 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:29,039 stage. Oh we hadn't or the reading glasses stage. You guys need to 7 00:00:29,079 --> 00:00:33,200 go to Aura dot com slash checks and get it a fourteen day free trial 8 00:00:33,359 --> 00:00:37,359 and see how much of all of your online information is being sold to criminals. 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,960 Because I did that, it's been sold Oh my god, it's being 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,560 sold to really bad people like that. I looked. 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Okay, now it is 20 00:01:22,599 --> 00:01:26,480 time to get into this week's episode, this week's deep dive, which is 21 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,719 gonna be a little I think it's gonna be a little juicy. Yeah, 22 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,400 I think it's gonna be a little juicy. A lot of people don't know 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,480 that because I mean, we have some newbies and a lot of people don't 24 00:01:36,519 --> 00:01:40,519 know that we've been doing this political thing for gosh almost fifteen years. Now. 25 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,079 We old and so can you believe we started doing this when we were 26 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:51,159 in our thirties like our that is mat it's crazy, like so it would 27 00:01:51,239 --> 00:01:53,040 yeah like our Yeah, in our thirties, we were in our thirties. 28 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,159 We were I mean I was on the very tail end, but I mean 29 00:01:57,239 --> 00:02:00,840 like still we were in our thirties, like we were Yeah, we were 30 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:07,120 there. We were still chick. We were still firm and supple. We 31 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:10,800 hadn't reached the hen stage. We hadn't or the reading glasses stage, like 32 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,240 now, I can't see you unless I have these on. And so back 33 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,000 then I had twenty twenty vision. I mean I had firm everything. Things 34 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,960 were up and not down. I mean it's everything was totally different back then, 35 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,879 as was I think maybe like politics wasn't completely different. But we have 36 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,400 seen things change over the past almost fifteen years. So one of the things 37 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,280 that got me thinking about this is the other day on our daily show, 38 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:42,000 I just, you know, just spontaneously shared a story about the Foo Fighters 39 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:47,599 because when we did our radio show in Indianapolis for almost eight years, we 40 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:53,439 used a food Fighter song as are like our show song, bumper music. 41 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,759 Yeah, it's not really our bump music. It was like our kickoff song. 42 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,400 It was like our theme song theme, yeah, theme a theme song, 43 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:04,520 and it kind of was. I remember our executive producer, he was 44 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,919 like, you know, what music do you like, and I remember I 45 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,800 said, I might have food Fighters is my favorite band, and you said, 46 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:12,439 Robbie Williams is my favorite singer. And of course we weren't going to 47 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,240 use Robbi Williams because nobody knew who the hell he was, and so he 48 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,639 obviously chose a food Fighter song, which is Walk. That's a song walk 49 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,080 as our theme music, and we we used it for years. I mean, 50 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,039 I think we probably used it for what like five or six years. 51 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,879 It was a long time at least, Yeah, yeah, and then some 52 00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:36,800 ass hat got you know, wind of it, or he heard it. 53 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,240 I guess he was a liberal dude who heard it, and he just got 54 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:46,879 irritated by the fact that two conservative radio hosts women dared to use the song 55 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,800 at the beginning of their show. And I guess, you know, he 56 00:03:51,039 --> 00:03:54,240 was somehow affiliated with the Food Fighters, and I don't think he was. 57 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,560 I think he just tweeted at their man, tweeted at their management, and 58 00:03:58,599 --> 00:04:00,960 then their management was like, like, you can't do this. And so 59 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,240 we got a cease and desist from the Food Fighters to stop using the song 60 00:04:06,759 --> 00:04:11,159 at the beginning of our show after using it for years, you know, 61 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,919 and so many people over those you know, the course of that with five 62 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,079 or six years, however long we used it, we're like, hey, 63 00:04:15,079 --> 00:04:18,759 what's that song? I really like that song? We had given probably a 64 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:26,040 gajillion people just just a hat tip where that well gave the food Fighters a 65 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:28,560 hat tip for that song. So many people had never even heard of the 66 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,759 Foods, or they didn't know that the food sang that song, or they 67 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,000 loved that They ended up loving that song because of us. We gave them 68 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,600 so much. It was a tribute to them, and I love them. 69 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:41,160 I'd been my god, I'd probably been to I don't know, eight or 70 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,360 nine Food Fighters concerts over the years, and I love them so much. 71 00:04:44,439 --> 00:04:46,199 So you have no idea how much that, Well you did, you knew 72 00:04:46,199 --> 00:04:49,120 how much it broke my heart. But people out there have no idea how 73 00:04:49,199 --> 00:04:53,120 much that broke my heart when we got that cease and desist, because it's 74 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,600 like your very favorite band, you just love so much, You've been to 75 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,759 their concerts, you bought the swag, you've like been invested, you've I 76 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:02,399 mean, you love them, and then you get a cease and desist from 77 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:05,240 the band and they're like, you can't use our song, you can't sit 78 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,959 at our table, Like you can't you just can't like our music kind of 79 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,399 a thing. I just was so heartbroken over that. I was so pissed. 80 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,360 I wanted to burn all their stuff. I didn't because I'm a rock 81 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:18,519 and roller and I was like, you know what, you guys are freaking 82 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:25,120 fascist, Like how dare you you call yourselves rock and roll people and then 83 00:05:25,319 --> 00:05:30,160 tell two conservative moms that they can't rock and roll to your music, you 84 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:34,399 jerks, Dave Groll, and so I was just so pissed about that, 85 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,439 and that's what made me think, Okay, looking back over retrospectively over the 86 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,759 past almost fifteen years, like some of the stuff that's happened to us that 87 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,879 people just don't know about, you know, some of the neat, little 88 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:50,639 quirky stories and people that we've met and disappointment surprises, favorites non favorites along 89 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:53,759 the way, And I'm like, we should probably share some of those fun 90 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,759 stories because we've just never shared or just I don't think we've shared a lot 91 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,879 of the stories, like the food fighters thing, I don't think we've ever 92 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,120 really talked about very much, you know, in public. So I thought 93 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,079 that was kind of a quirky little story. Really pissed off with the foos. 94 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,560 If Dave Girl ever gets wind of this, which he'll never listen to 95 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,759 this podcast, but he has no idea how much he broke my heart and 96 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,800 how much I think he's a fascist, and like might never look at their 97 00:06:16,879 --> 00:06:19,800 music the same now, and I'll never go to another one of their concerts 98 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:25,000 again. And the very first concert I ever took my our son to was 99 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,879 the FOS when he was fourteen years old, and that like they have no 100 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:33,439 idea, Like how that changed my whole perspective of the food of them, 101 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:39,040 of music, of the music industry, Like what jerks, you know, 102 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,519 Well, it's just so dumb when any musician does this, when they tell 103 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:46,920 any political can anybody or any show whatever whoever, they say, you can't 104 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,480 use my song, even though you love it and you are using it to 105 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:55,240 promote me, you can't use it because I disagree with you politically. That's 106 00:06:55,319 --> 00:07:00,319 just freaking lane. It's fascism. That's fascism, you jerks. So that 107 00:07:00,959 --> 00:07:03,399 was really irritating. So I started thinking to myself, like when we first 108 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:06,000 went into radio, that first day we were on the radio. Do you 109 00:07:06,079 --> 00:07:10,399 remember our first day on the air. It was a Saturday because we had 110 00:07:10,439 --> 00:07:14,279 a Saturday show first before we were on Drivetime, and we went on the 111 00:07:14,319 --> 00:07:18,000 air, and that chick who screamed at us the first day. We'll never 112 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:24,240 forget it. And it should be said that we had no intention starting our 113 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:28,639 careers or even starting our website. We never would have dreamed in a million 114 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,560 years that we would get a radio show. Radio was not in our background. 115 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,079 It was nothing we ever knew about. We were doing our first show, 116 00:07:33,279 --> 00:07:36,959 terrified. We'd had like what two or three practice shows that were not 117 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,199 even you know, they were just with a producer, and then we were 118 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,680 just going to be thrown into the wolves on a Saturday live show. So 119 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,199 we were already super nerve terrified. Yeah, we were pretty terrified. So 120 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,160 we get on the air and I remember, you know, I was on 121 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,959 one side, you're on the other. We had a board op. I 122 00:07:54,959 --> 00:07:57,519 think there's a board op in there. I'm pretty sure because we kid we 123 00:07:57,519 --> 00:07:59,920 didn't run the board. Yeah, Craig was in there, That's right. 124 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,720 Craig was in there, and god, Craig. I remember Craig. So 125 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:07,800 remember we made him play blurb all the time. Yeah, we were just 126 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:11,879 ridiculous. The bump music. Don't come after us, Robin, don't do 127 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:16,079 it. But yes, Craig was in there. And I remember talking about 128 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:20,240 Obama. I was talking about Obama, and I was talking about the fact 129 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:28,920 that I thought it was odd that he called himself exclusively a black man because 130 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:33,759 he is in fact biracial, which is true. He's it's true, he's 131 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:37,960 a biracial man. And I thought it was odd because the person who raised 132 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,519 him was a white woman, which is also true. There's nothing just non 133 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,440 factual about that. And you know, I thought it was odd because his 134 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:52,000 dad abandoned them basically, or his dad wasn't around the white woman, the 135 00:08:52,039 --> 00:08:54,879 white his white mother raised him. And so but I thought it was odd 136 00:08:54,879 --> 00:09:01,320 that he sort of just rejected the whiteness in him and then he just took 137 00:09:01,399 --> 00:09:03,320 on the persona of a black man. And I'm like, well, that's 138 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,759 weird because there are a lot of biracial kids out there who would have loved 139 00:09:07,759 --> 00:09:11,559 to have been able to say, that's the first biracial president, you know 140 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,320 what I mean. So I made that point, and man, that woman 141 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,039 during the break she came in, she busted in, and I guess, 142 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:26,279 she's a black woman married to a white man and she just let me have 143 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,679 it, which is weird. Well, and she worked in our newsroom like 144 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,559 she was an actual employee of the same radios. Time came in and started 145 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,919 screaming at me, at us because I had the audacity to say that because 146 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:45,840 she was raising two boys who she considered to be black. I guess even 147 00:09:45,879 --> 00:09:48,519 though her husband is white, right, so she was doing the same thing 148 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,679 as Obama and she was trying to make the point terribly by the way that 149 00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:56,879 it was perfectly legitimate for Obama to do what he was doing. And she 150 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,600 was like sem and she was holding up her family picture and we were like, 151 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:05,440 so, so like what what? I'm like, your can't why are 152 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,639 you right? This makes no sense? Your boys are beautiful, but you're 153 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,200 making a shit point because I like, I don't understand what and literally just 154 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:18,120 screening and we had what like three minutes to get on the air and get 155 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,000 ourselves situated for like the second segment that we were doing in Our Lives Live. 156 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:26,519 I mean, it was just so nerve wracking. That was the worst. 157 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,720 So I heard that was like our our introduction into being on the radio, 158 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:37,320 and it was terrifying and like being thrown on basically being thrown into a 159 00:10:37,399 --> 00:10:41,120 hot fire. I just remember that day was I thought, do we have 160 00:10:41,159 --> 00:10:43,799 to do this every day? Because I don't know if I can handle this, 161 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:46,519 like my blood pressure, and I was I did not know this was 162 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,120 going to happen like every single day. I don't know. And we were 163 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,919 not. I remember we took like a pay cut from both of our regular 164 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,799 jobs just to do radio. We both took like a fifty percent cut in 165 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,879 pay, and I thought, I don't know if I'm cut out for this. 166 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,639 I don't know if I am. This is crazy. So yeah, 167 00:11:01,639 --> 00:11:05,879 that was our introduction into radio and it was crazy, but then it ended 168 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,840 up being super fun and it did and there was some karma there because ultimately 169 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:13,759 she was fired not for that reason, but just because she was kind of 170 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:18,559 an awful person. She got fired, and then the company that she went 171 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,519 to work for, which was a liberal rag, ended up going out of 172 00:11:20,519 --> 00:11:24,399 business. They really did. Karma is a bitch. Karma's a real bitch. 173 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,879 Yeah. So then we ended up doing radio for you know, eight 174 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,440 years, almost eight years, and it was super fun. Radio was awesome. 175 00:11:31,639 --> 00:11:35,320 I mean, you can't I don't know, you can't even express how 176 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,000 much fun that job. It was like working at a giant frat house where 177 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:43,759 you get to like hang out with your best friends and then just do exactly 178 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:48,240 what you love every single day. But we had some really cool interviews and 179 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:52,159 then we had some really terrible interviews. I would say, like, who 180 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,240 who would you say would be your favor the favorite people like person or people 181 00:11:56,279 --> 00:12:01,360 that we interviewed in radio specifically, well, just any in general over the 182 00:12:01,399 --> 00:12:05,120 past, like in the past. I mean, I guess podcasting too. 183 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:07,840 If you want to use podcasting as a okay to, Yeah, that makes 184 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:11,679 it easier because I you know, we talked to like we had regular segments 185 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,159 in radio with Denesh Desusa, with Todd Starns. Those were always fun. 186 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,639 But when you look at I feel like we've and actually we interviewed Megan Kelly 187 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:22,600 back in our radio days, which was that was a really big gipp and 188 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:26,000 I loved it was a big get. Yeah. But I would say for 189 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:31,279 favorites, like of all time, there are so many people that I have 190 00:12:31,399 --> 00:12:35,080 loved having us having on with us, Like Zoobie one of my all time 191 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,000 favorites. Great love having Zubie. I loved having Rick Grenell. I felt 192 00:12:39,039 --> 00:12:41,759 like that was such a good intera that we had with him. Rand Paul 193 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:46,480 was another one that he was fantastic. Yeah, I loved having him. 194 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:50,200 I loved way back in the early days when we talked to Blair White. 195 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:56,360 Yeah, she was a phenomenon. She was that was awesome. Yes, 196 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,480 she was great. She was really great. Oh and then remember when we 197 00:12:58,519 --> 00:13:05,679 did we did like as soon as Brandon Struck got released from prison, essentially 198 00:13:05,759 --> 00:13:09,600 when he came on our show to tell us his story of that entire thing, 199 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:15,200 like being rated and being arrested and all that stuff, that is such 200 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:20,440 a powerful, powerful episode. I just love that. And then anytime we 201 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,639 talked to Dave Rubin, I think it's it's really fun because he's just very 202 00:13:24,759 --> 00:13:26,759 like he is super fun, really super fun, I would say, and 203 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:31,159 like back in the day in Radio two. Of the ones that stick out 204 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,679 for me the very first one because it just has such a tide in my 205 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:39,600 childhood and I and I usually don't get starstruck when we do that because I'm 206 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:41,840 just not really a big like, oh my god, it's a celebrity. 207 00:13:41,879 --> 00:13:45,559 I'm like losing my mind and I God, I just don't get that way 208 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,279 with people. I just don't. Maybe I should, but I just don't. 209 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,039 I'm like whatever, they put their pants on the same way that everybody 210 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:54,399 else. But Dennis Miller was a really big deal for me. Like when 211 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,879 we talked to Dennis Miller, I was like, holy shit, we're talking 212 00:13:56,919 --> 00:14:00,320 to Dennis Miller. Like that's so. Then we met him and he was 213 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,320 love. We met him in person, like we did. He like held 214 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,600 her I mean, I just I was like kind of starstruck with him. 215 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,960 And I think it's because, you know, I remember watching him when I 216 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,840 was a kid, and I just loved him and he's such a smart guy, 217 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:18,559 and yeah, and he was. And I think also because he was 218 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,399 so dear to us, like he treated us with such respect and he gave 219 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,399 us a lot of time, and yeah, I really liked him a lot. 220 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,960 The dirty Jobs guy. Oh Mike Rowe, Yes, I love that 221 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:37,120 member when he sang his opera God, I love Mike Rowe spent forty five 222 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,399 minutes on the phone with us one day, and he would have spent longer. 223 00:14:41,679 --> 00:14:45,159 I mean, he was incredibly dear to us. He did not have 224 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,639 to do that. And so it just shows you, like you could tell 225 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,120 people who have character, you know, who are just decent human beings. 226 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,759 And I think Dennis Miller is a decent human being. I think Mike Rowe 227 00:14:56,799 --> 00:15:01,559 is a decent human being. So those two stick out to me as being 228 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:07,919 just like normal people who have become famous, and thank god they stayed kind 229 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,399 of normal, you know what I mean, those are two people who stuck 230 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,399 stick out that we have had just the absolute blessing to be able to talk 231 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,519 to you. And then the third one that sticks out to me, which 232 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:20,600 I thought was just a really cool person to be able to interview because she 233 00:15:22,159 --> 00:15:26,039 is historical, is wanting to broadbrig Remember when we got to interview her and 234 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:31,120 we got to ask her all sorts of questions and that that was cool because 235 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,039 I remember, you know, being right out of college and all that stuff 236 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,639 happening, and like her name getting thrown around, and it was just cool, 237 00:15:39,679 --> 00:15:41,240 like being an adult and being like, wow, I get to interview 238 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:45,039 her, Like she's just a part of history, and she's in history. 239 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,039 You know, she'll be a part of history that I'm sure my daughter will 240 00:15:48,039 --> 00:15:50,879 read about and I'll be able to go I interviewed her once, you know, 241 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,000 like that's and she was also very dear to us well. And the 242 00:15:54,039 --> 00:15:56,320 sucky thing about some of those is that they're gone forever, right because the 243 00:15:56,399 --> 00:16:00,840 radio station doesn't archive those. And it just makes me sick to my stomach 244 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:04,440 that those interviews are just gone. They're just they're gone. They're right, 245 00:16:04,879 --> 00:16:08,320 you're right. I hate that too, and I hate that they don't archive. 246 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:11,240 I know. That just drives me crazy. And then the last one 247 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:15,000 that I thought was really cool? Is we got to talk to Alvida King? 248 00:16:15,879 --> 00:16:18,639 Yeah, I mean it's Alvita freaking King, you know, you know, 249 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,519 like she's it's Alvita King. You know, it's just so cool we 250 00:16:23,559 --> 00:16:26,399 got to talk to her. I mean, how neat is that right? 251 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:29,120 So well, I'm sure you're gonna ask you I'm sure you're going to ask 252 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,720 about like the least favorite. But before we do that, can we just 253 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:41,279 take a quick opportunity to talk about Oh my gosh, specifically these Yeah, 254 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:45,759 my gosh, my dogs love these Rough shoes. Oh my god. They 255 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,159 love the shoes. And they're like the kind of crunchy, Like how would 256 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,639 you describe them? Because they they it's like it's like given. It's like 257 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,840 given dogs potato chips. It's doggy potato chips, basically, is what it 258 00:16:56,919 --> 00:16:59,960 is. I mean, they're just a little they last a little bit longer 259 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,079 than how the chips lost for me. 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Remember how I've told you that, 269 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:45,960 like after they eat it, Ella always licks her paws, which is 270 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,720 I don't it's super weird that she's done that, but she does it every 271 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,640 time. She'll she'll just lick the tops of her paws as if maybe she's 272 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,599 she knows it's getting on there because she's not particularly a graceful eater. Yeah, 273 00:17:57,599 --> 00:18:00,640 but now Masi has started to do the same thing, and I can't 274 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,680 tell if she's doing it for the same reasons or just because she's copying, 275 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:07,440 you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, theia waits. He is 276 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,000 such a diva now, he's like, I mean, he went from like 277 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,400 gutter dog to now he's just like, I'm sorry, where's my rough dat? 278 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,200 He won't eat the kibble without it. He just looks at it. 279 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:18,079 He looks at it, and he looks at me. He's like, where 280 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,039 is it? Where's the green powder? And I'm like, I'm coming diva. 281 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,359 Oh my god, that is awesome. Well, I mean, that's 282 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,799 the thing is, if you have any doubts about whether your dog, even 283 00:18:27,839 --> 00:18:32,160 if your dog is super picky, you can try this. That's the beauty 284 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,599 of it is. You can try it for free. You can get a 285 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,599 free jumpstart trial bag just by going to roughchicks dot com. That's our U 286 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:45,319 F F get it rough get get yourself the trial bag and see what your 287 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:48,240 dogs think. And they're probably gonna act better, They're gonna smell better, 288 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:53,640 they're gonna feel better. Rough Chicks dot Are you the biggest disappointment, the 289 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,279 biggest, least favorite and biggest disappointments in the industry. Let's talk about it. 290 00:18:57,319 --> 00:19:00,599 Let's start. Let's start dish in the dirt. Now this is where 291 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:06,039 it gets a dirty. Well, here's the thing. Instead of like picking 292 00:19:06,079 --> 00:19:11,000 my least favorite interviews, actually my top least favorite interview is Ron DeSantis because 293 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,319 it never never had so that's number. Oh my god, I love that. 294 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,160 Yeah, because he's he just says ignored us because we're just totally ignorous. 295 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:23,960 But I will say tied for second place is every single person. And 296 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,279 I wrote some of them down because I remember them off my list, and 297 00:19:27,319 --> 00:19:30,599 not because they were bad interviews, because they were on for the most part, 298 00:19:30,599 --> 00:19:34,920 delightful. Anybody that we've interviewed who hasn't had the common courtesy to simply 299 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:41,000 retweet their appearance, you are on my shit list. That includes people like 300 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:48,000 Sarah Sanders, like Ainsley Earhart, like Shannon Bream, like Riley Gaines, 301 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:52,160 like hung Cow even I mean people that we have loved talking to who have 302 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,519 just decided, well, we got your audience, you don't get to have 303 00:19:56,559 --> 00:19:59,759 any of ours. That's shitty. Yeah, and I don't like any of 304 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:03,359 those people. Yeah, well, I mean I get it. I get 305 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,319 it. I mean I totally get that because a lot that has been very 306 00:20:06,319 --> 00:20:10,759 disappointing to me, Like there's a there's some there's a trend at least towards 307 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,079 us in this industry where we are not as popular as some of these people, 308 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,720 and so they feel like they can just come take our audience and move 309 00:20:18,759 --> 00:20:25,319 on. It's like sleeping with the girl that is, you know that's not 310 00:20:25,559 --> 00:20:29,079 so popular and they're just like I can just discard her and move on. 311 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,759 That's literally who we are in this industry. And that gets really freaking old 312 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,839 that I hate that too. That happens to us all the time. And 313 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,559 our audience all the time. And our audience is awesome. We have a 314 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:44,920 fantastic audience, and we have a really great following, and we have we 315 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,720 have big numbers, which is why they like our show. But we're not 316 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,400 Daily Wire, we're not Bright Bart, We're not you know, like Turning 317 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,279 Point. We're not one of those big ones. And so they're like, 318 00:20:56,319 --> 00:20:59,480 well, we'll use their audience and then we don't have to retweet or do 319 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,359 anything else these girls, because you know, they're just whatever, they're just 320 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,200 the chicks on the right, doesn't matter, and so that's how we're treated 321 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,119 and that pisses me off. So it's like I always say, we're sort 322 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,480 of like the Romian Michelle Man. We're the Romeian Michelle of the conservative industry. 323 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:18,000 That gets a little It does get a little old. And it started 324 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:25,160 I don't know where, Like I don't know why that phenomenon started, but 325 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,599 it kind of started like right around the time we wrote our book, like 326 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,720 when we wrote our book. We wrote that it's a damn good book, 327 00:21:32,319 --> 00:21:36,400 and we didn't really get even a lot of the help. No offense against 328 00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:38,960 the people that we worked with, even at MS, but we really didn't 329 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,960 even get a lot of the help that we thought we were going to get 330 00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:47,440 propping up that book and helping to promote it from the people that surrounded us 331 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:48,559 at that time, you know what I mean. Yeah, I thought it 332 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:52,200 would be a much bigger deal, especially because our radio station at the time 333 00:21:52,440 --> 00:22:00,559 owned the local Indianapolis magazine, Indianapolis Monthly, and they were utterly un and 334 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:03,519 I'm like, we work in your building. It's crazy. Why would you 335 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:07,400 not want to at least do a little profile on the fact that these two 336 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,839 just like suburban now rural, but like suburban rural moms who wrote a book 337 00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:17,240 and who had like this explosion of popularity. I feel like that's a it's 338 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,880 a historical interest, that's a human interest story. And they were just like, 339 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,799 I'm sorry you are yeah, And they'd be like, I'm sorry, 340 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:26,839 We're gonna go ahead and just put like cupcakes on our cover this month because 341 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:32,039 people are more interested in like the cupcake explosion in the city and we'd be 342 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,240 like, what the hell, yeah, because it's it was just a really 343 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:38,079 weird It was a weird time for us because we just thought, okay, 344 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,000 it's And I think a lot of it had to do with one that they 345 00:22:42,039 --> 00:22:48,039 wanted to ignore conservatism because conservatives were you know, oh my god, conservatives 346 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,680 now. And two we're conservative women, you know, And I don't think 347 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,759 they just knew what to do with us. The conservative women thing. I 348 00:22:55,799 --> 00:22:59,440 think conservative women as a whole have always just been sort of pushed to the 349 00:22:59,559 --> 00:23:02,400 side, and so that maybe that was part of it. But we were 350 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,839 we were surrounded by dudes. I think if it were dudes, they would 351 00:23:04,839 --> 00:23:07,960 have elevated the dudes. I hate to pull the sexiest card, but I 352 00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:11,079 mean, I think that was part of it. They just don't know what 353 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,200 to do with conservative women that have opinions, as evidenced by the two guys 354 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,480 we've put in jail, you know, because we put we've put dudes in 355 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:22,960 prison, you know, because and that has not happened to our male counterparts. 356 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,000 It didn't happen to our male counterparts on the radio at least they didn't 357 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,839 have those issues we had. You know, there was a local guy that 358 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,279 we put in prison who stalked us. And then well and unfortunately he didn't 359 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:38,799 go to prison. He was arrested, but like and we had a restraining 360 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,440 order, but he was a mental health case and so they just were like, 361 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,359 here's all this mess. That's true. We had I feel free to 362 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,640 threaten people. It's a good point. We had restraining orders against him, 363 00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:52,480 which is a piece of paper and so it just basically means like until he 364 00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:55,599 tries to kill you, you can't do anything. So that was fun for 365 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,640 us. And he was local and he was like an ex football player. 366 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,119 The guy was huge and so he was and he had a stalking history. 367 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,359 He stopped Monica cell Us. I mean, the guy was like, so 368 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,079 we were in great company. So there was that. And then the other 369 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,440 guy was a guy that was in Texas and they had to before you were 370 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,400 there, before I was here, and so that was you know, but 371 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,920 he actually went to prison. We actually put him. He went for three 372 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,960 years, right, And so that's the thing. So women, you know, 373 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,000 it's different for women that it is for men, at least in this 374 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,519 industry. And you know, that's why we get a little briskly when people 375 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:33,440 are like I Listen, I totally agree with everything you say, but I 376 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,640 just don't want to like say it out loud. And it's like, I 377 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,400 mean, we get it, but we totally get We put ourselves out there 378 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,440 too, and we've done it to the to the extent that people have, 379 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,279 you know, stopped us and wanted to kill us. And so we understand. 380 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:48,720 And we're not even that popular. So I can only imagine like that, 381 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,720 I can only imagine the death threats that say, like a Tommy Larren 382 00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:56,079 or a you know, a Dana Lash or somebody like that. Well, 383 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,680 Dana had to move right, like she had to like move to a whole 384 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,799 other house. I mean, people are insane. And what we've learned, 385 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,640 unfortunately, is that a lot of the insanity comes from the right conservative It's 386 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:10,160 not just liberals who want to kill you and who issue the death threats. 387 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,960 It is conservatives who just get mad at you for whatever reason, whether you're 388 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,799 not paying enough attention to them or whatever they are side. That's true. 389 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,440 Yeah, Mack is right. It's not just the liberals. It's the conservatives 390 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,279 who got They get pissed off, they get really really mad. So that's 391 00:25:25,319 --> 00:25:27,079 another thing that we like a whole breed of people. Yeah, that's a 392 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,359 whole other thing that we've learned. Yeah, and then you know, another 393 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,440 thing is I think one of the things too that I've I've learned over the 394 00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:37,759 year is just kind of going back to interviews and stuff like that, is 395 00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:41,400 everybody thinks that Fox is the end all be all. I just I don't 396 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:47,039 know. I think the two people that I really liked at Fox were Rachel 397 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:51,880 what's her last name Campos Duff. Yes, I really liked her. She 398 00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:55,720 was darling. She was so sweet to us, very very nice to us. 399 00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:59,759 She's probably like the She and Ainslie were probably the nicest to us. 400 00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:03,200 I don't know if Rachel would share our stuff if we ever interviewed her. 401 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,799 I don't think anybody at Fox has ever. Has anybody at Fox ever shared 402 00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:08,759 our stuff? Has anybody at Fox ever? Brian kill me, Brian kill 403 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,240 me, be very nice about sharing, that's true, Brian kill me. 404 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,240 Yeahs, Yeah, you're right. He's probably been like the one person and 405 00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:19,319 he had us on his radio show, like when we were doing our book 406 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,359 tour thing. That's he was very bad, That's right, Brian kill me. 407 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,039 It is a stand up dude. That's right, but like, but 408 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,960 Fox, it's so interesting. Everybody thinks Fox is sort of like the end 409 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,240 all be all, but I don't, you know, I don't know if 410 00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:34,039 I if I believe that anymore. Like it's over the past fifteen years, 411 00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:38,039 we've seen it sort of become like the you know, the the Holy Grill, 412 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,960 like everybody wants to get on Fox, and I don't think it's that 413 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,880 anymore. I think that if if I weren't, I just it's not like 414 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,359 you and I don't really care about that. It's like we don't really care, 415 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,039 but oh my god, we have to be on Fox. I think 416 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:52,160 maybe if you would have asked us that, you know, twelve thirteen years 417 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,000 ago, we would be like, oh, that's really cool to get on 418 00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:57,000 Fox. Now we're kind of like now we just rather podcast. Thanks. 419 00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:00,279 Well, because it's a lot of work, I mean, all the makeup 420 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,200 and like it's just a it's TV is exhausting and I cannot am in awe 421 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,640 of the people who do that as a full time job day and I could 422 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,440 never yeah, especially like we did. We did a couple hit, well, 423 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,119 we did a couple of hits when we did our book tour and the 424 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:21,279 CNN make it people were awful, Yeah, terrible, and and Coulter and 425 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,640 tell the story about Ann Coulter and then we can like, well, I 426 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:29,319 mean she just you know, she was on There was a guy who retired 427 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,000 from radio. His name is Greg Garrison, and we were on his show 428 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,720 as part of his show like once a week, and it was like his 429 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,960 woman day of the week, So we had all kinds of female guests on 430 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,839 one day of the week, and and culture was usually right before us, 431 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,960 and so you know, she he would always, he would always, she 432 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,000 would definitely hear that we like existed in the world right right. And so 433 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,799 we happened to be at CNN at the same on the same evening we were 434 00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:57,640 both going to be interviewing with Don Lemon. We arrived into this teeny tiny, 435 00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:02,680 itsy bitsy green rooms like a half the size of my dining room, 436 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,599 tato tiny literally a half bath. Yeah, And we walk in and she 437 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,200 is sitting there along with another woman whose name I'll never remember, but like 438 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,640 familiar, right, like some other TV sort of person, And they were 439 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,079 sitting together on one couch and then there was a couch across the coffee table 440 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,119 from them. Again like we're me to me almost right, you would think 441 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,079 when you open the door and then two people who are sitting there talking, 442 00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,559 clear it's a teeny room. When that door opens, you at least look 443 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,559 up and sort of just acknowledge the fact that two humans are entering the same 444 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:40,400 tiny room the polite thing to do. They did not even break their conversation 445 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,079 for a second, Like, they did not acknowledge us in any way. 446 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:48,720 So it was super weird and uncomfortable. We sit across the table from them 447 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,880 and we're literally just staring at them, like willing them to pay attention to 448 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,079 us in some way, anything else you can do in that tiny little room. 449 00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:57,720 I mean, it's like we couldn't help. It was so weird. 450 00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:03,160 Yeah, and so it's at one point it became so weird that like you 451 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,720 and I just started openly talking about how weird it was, and they kept 452 00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:08,920 just talking louder to each other, just making it we're making fun of them. 453 00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,319 In real time. We were just like we're basically saying to each other, 454 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,279 this is so freaking weird, Like what in the hell is going on? 455 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,720 Like we're saying we're basically saying that to each other. And then we're 456 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:22,160 tex I was waiting for Ashton Cusher. I was like, are we Like, 457 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,519 what the hell has happened? What's going on? Like we're saying that 458 00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:27,160 in real time to each other, and then we're like texting our husbands going 459 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,039 what the hell is going on? Like this is so odd. We're getting 460 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:33,839 ready to go on with Don Lemon. This is like, I don't We're 461 00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:37,680 in a like we're being punked. What is happening. It was the craziest 462 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,480 thing. And then she ends up she was before us, right, and 463 00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:44,880 so like we go. We're then in the makeup room and she's on with 464 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,640 Don Leman and we're in the makeup room. You went to the bathroom for 465 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,759 a second. I had to get that. I'm in the makeup room. 466 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:52,839 I don't even think I peed. I just needed to get the hell out 467 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,000 of that room. Yeah, so I'm I'm waiting for our thing. You're 468 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,200 in the bathroom and and Culture's hit gets done, so she comes back in 469 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:03,960 to get like make up off, and finally it was just she still didn't 470 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,680 acknowledge me. But I finally said, Hey, Greg Garrison, who's the 471 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,400 guy that we were on the radio show with together? I said, Greg 472 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:15,519 Greg says hi, and then all of a sudden, she lights up and 473 00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:22,279 like she recognizes that I too am a human being and so and so she's 474 00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:26,359 like, oh my god, Oh my god, Greg. And then and 475 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,200 then we had like sort of this civil conversation. But I'll just never look 476 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,559 at her the same way, like I'll never I just was like, you 477 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,319 are not all that, like I am not just a speck of dirt on 478 00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:41,599 the floor. You can recognize that you're amongst another human being. It was 479 00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:45,039 awful. Yeah, Like that was just the call because you had to mention 480 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,359 Greg Garrison's name for her to be like, the only way you're not an 481 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,799 alien from planet Gleeborg. Okay, Yeah, it was just like we know 482 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,720 somebody in comment. Oh my gosh, I guess I better be Niceyes, 483 00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:57,640 I need to say hi to you now so I don't look like a complete 484 00:30:57,799 --> 00:31:00,720 hag. Yeah. It was just yeah, it was just horrific. That 485 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:04,559 was a that was awful, that whole situation and then the makeup people were 486 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:10,319 terrible and just yeah, everything that the book tour was very eye opening for 487 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,359 us because you got to learn like who was awful in the I mean, 488 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:18,240 CNN was awful the Fox people. I mean, John Lemon was actually very 489 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:19,519 nice. He was then, but there's no way I'd want to go on 490 00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:22,599 his show now if he still had a show, Oh my god, he 491 00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:25,519 would be horrific because he changed over the years. But at that time he 492 00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:26,599 was okay. And plus he had a cold that night. I think his 493 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,000 guard was down, you know what I mean. It's just the whole thing. 494 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:33,640 And makeup people were just terrible to us. They were just terrible Fox 495 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,839 people. If you ever want to get makeup done professionally, go get your 496 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,319 your makeup done by Fox people, because they just make you look like a 497 00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:44,759 million bucks for real. You guys, they were in your hair. I 498 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:48,200 mean they're nice, they're super nice people. Yeah, so there's that. 499 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,799 There's an insights here anyway. So that's that's some scoop. I mean, 500 00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:55,039 I don't that's that's some scoop. That's some scoop on Like, we could 501 00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:59,480 have like a whole other show about people that we are no longer on particularly 502 00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:02,160 good with, and you've probably heard some of the names, or you've just 503 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,319 recognized that by omission, we don't like to talk about them, and so 504 00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:10,920 maybe someday we'll do a show about Yeah, yeah, we'll think about doing 505 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,079 that because I mean you could. Yeah, like you said, you can 506 00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:17,079 probably already tell just because we don't talk about them and they don't talk about 507 00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:20,720 us. Yeah, it's fine, it's right. We'll probably get to the 508 00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:23,000 point, like when we're in about five years and we just give no f's 509 00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:29,079 and we'll just start we'll just start going like full Elmo scorched Earth, and 510 00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:31,319 we just won't care anymore. We'll just start naming names. Yeah. Anyways, 511 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,400 you guys that did