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Fight Freaks United recap. Hello, Ryan Garcia with one of the shocking upset
performances I'll say in recent memory in a boxing ring getting a victory over Devin
Haney that we're about to break down and discuss. Hello to the audience,
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We have much to go over about Ryan Garcia's twelve round decision win over
Devin Haney, which very easily could have been a knockout win on two different
occasions, probably should have been a knockout win. Great drama. This is
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talking, it was live on the bet Us Boxing Show on their platforms Friday
afternoon. At that point, Ryan Garcia had missed wait badly, as I
liked to joke, by three exits off the interstate. We didn't know that
on our preview podcast overnight Thursday into Friday. We now know that. We
now know further that there was not any kind of made on a reweigh in
on Saturday. So I'm going to begin the discussion this way. Yes,
Ryan Garcia got the victory in the ring. He deserves full credit for everything
that happened in the ring. But partially this fight came down to what the
Hany team and Bill Haney in specific didn't demand and didn't do Friday and Saturday.
And we'll get into that discussion. That is my take. Begin your
thoughts and the discussion about all of this, My friend TJ. When you
say your take, you mean they should have insisted on a rehydration clause.
They should have insisted on something Friday afternoon, Friday night and Saturday morning because
the fighter himself was bragging and flaunting the fact I didn't have to make the
weight. I can do whatever I want now on Saturday, and I believe
it was part Again, let me say clearly to the audience, I'm not
doing this to you. I'm not saying it's the only reason why Ryan Garcia
won to fight. Ryan Garcia's big left hand is why he basically won this
fight. But they were a Devin Hainey talked after the fight about being asleep
on the left hook. They were asleep Friday afternoon and Saturday. And but
I've monopolized this. You're you're the authority, You're the guy that people want
to hear from in this scenario. I've set it up, give me some
thoughts. Let's get into it. Let's get it. We can begin right
there. Did they screw it up? Did they screw it up on the
rehydracing clause? What's your take? Well, I think basically, when you
took a look at what happened when the bell rang and they got into the
ring, it looked to me anyway, from just the naked eye, Ryan
Garcia was a much much bigger person than Haini not because he's a little bit
taller, just because he clearly had put on bulk. And wait, and
there's a big difference. Now. Neither one of these guys, to my
knowledge, stepped on a scale for the promot, you know, for the
TV on the night that they got to the arena, So we don't know
for sure what they weighed when they got there. I suspect that if Ryan
was one forty three and change, officially, you had to be in the
one sixty five this area. Uh, you know, by the time he
got to the night of the fight, he looked really big. Heiny obviously
did not put on that much weight. He's a smaller guy to begin with,
but you know, there they could have tried to force a rehidration clause.
I'm not sure it would have worked. They i think were more concerned
at that point about getting the money that they got for it to go through
with the fight. Now, all all this stuff about how they did the
one and a half million dollars because there was five hundred thousand dollars a pout.
Now, maybe Ryan will pay that just as a you know, a
man to man bet and you keep your honor. But in terms of what
the contract said, it was not a million and a half dollars. I
know this one hundred percent from people that literally were going over the paperwork.
The contract was six hundred grand from the purse of Brian to the purse of
Hainy, plus a percentage two percent of whatever he may derive on the upside
of the pay per view. Not anything to do with a million and a
half. Now, if Ryan decides to pay him, you know, you
know, good for him. I guess that's the honorable thing to do.
But there's no contract that's going to make them do that. And as a
matter of fact, in the contract that they signed, like the amendment,
I was told that there was actually a language in that that they had to
continue to say it was a million and a half dollars. I'm not sure
why that was such a big deal, but it was. And that's just
weirdness of boxing people sometimes. Nonetheless, did they make a mistake? Yeah,
I mean in retrospect, I guess they did. Because here's the thing,
and I heard this from people on social media all day long, Well
it was only three pounds. Well no, it wasn't only three pounds.
Number one. Unfortunately, in the case that Ryan, I don't know how
much he really cares about this, but just from the standpoint of like the
purest if you will in boxing fanhood, you know, me gave up the
opportunity to become the champ of the world. And if he had made the
weight and he won the fight, he'd beat the wb C Junior walter weight
world champs. So that's obviously, you know significant. I mean obviously,
I know it's about the money, but the guys who were the best in
the business, they find a way to be champions and make the money,
not one or the other, not a binary choice. So that's one thing
in terms of about the situation with the weight. Yeah, it was three
pounds, But here's what people they're like, Well, they both put on
all the weight after the weigh and they plenty of time to rehydrate, so
they were even. And that's what they don't understand. If you are a
fighter and you are supposed to make one forty and you get down to the
weight and you deplete yourself, you give up something of yourself getting to that
weight. That's exactly the guy that doesn't do that, it only gets to
one forty three, doesn't suffer and deplete the way that the other guy did.
It gives him an inherent advantage. So Garcia flaunting that, not acting
like a sportsman. It's one thing to be overweight, but to rub your
opponents knows in the fact that I didn't make the weight kind of left a
lot of people with the kind of a bad taste in their mouth, I
guess, so he was sort of like flaunting that. Now. I've seen
examples of fighters that have not been able to make the weight and they don't
even bother to try. Now, he wasn't going to be able to lose
obviously, three extra pounds, but there are certain guys. I remember,
this is just one example of many I'm sure I could come up with.
As I was at a fight in Houston, Texas years ago, when it
was supposed to be Danny Garcia challenging Eric Morales for this coincidentally actually the same
WBC Junior welterweight title. I just realized that and Garcia was the challenger and
Eric was the champion, and Garcia was not I mean, Morales was not
on weight, and he never bothered to try to lose the weight. He
just took the you know, took the fine and the and the stripping of
the title and went in the ring and fought him the next night. Now,
obviously Garcia won the fight and won the title, but the point was
he didn't deplete all the way to one forty three, and Eric said,
you know, he was kind of you know, cool about it. He's
like, look, my choice was do I kill myself and have no chance
to win the fight, or do I just go as it is and I
lose my title, But at least I have a chance, and you know,
we get we take care of business. As it turned out, he
didn't, you know, keep the title, an he lost the fight.
But the point was this was the same scenario, except the Ryan turned out
to be the winner of the fight. Now, HAINI stilled the champion the
WBC rules. I double checked this with Mauricio Suliman, but before right right
after the way on Friday, and then again I checked with him on Saturday
just to make sure that I wasn't missing something in what he was saying to
me is that the the title would have obviously still been hanies that he wanted
to win a title defense, but without him winning, he's still the champion
because his opponent was over the weight. So Devin Hainey does have the fact
to fall back on that he's still the WBC champion. And this is not
an unprecedented situation where a guy can keep a belt when the other guy,
you know, beats him. Okay, we'll get into that in a couple
of moments too, because it's convoluted because then it was essentially a non title
fight, because I mean more or less, because nobody was going to lose
the title or win the title. But in any event, I just want
to make this point too, when we go back a year ago, Gervonte
Davis had all of these stipulations in there on what Garcia had to weigh and
what he had to weigh the next day and people went on and on about
that, but obviously his team and him being the A side understood we don't
want him to be fifteen or twenty pounds heavier than us on fight night.
So clearly, if you want to be critical of the Hainies that they botched
this and let Ryan Garcia get away with it, there's your valid example a
year ago. I'm not gonna even say that though, because I am then
they that's fun, you can say that, but then people start saying,
well, you're you know, you're a weight bully and all that kind of
stuff. You know what, it's not a matter of being a weight bully.
There should not have been a fight when he was three pounds overweight,
and you're now changing the stipulations on everything because of that. That's not a
weight bully. I'm not again, I'm not. I know you're not arguing
that point. No, you're you're right what you're saying. But what I'm
saying is I'm not gonna argue. I may have handled it differently if I
was managing a boxer, maybe you would have handled it differently. They obviously
as a team, Devin, his dad, their lawyer, their their people,
They've got others that they consult with. They made a decision that they
were gonna go and do this fight, and they weren't gonna try to force
the weight clause. Now you can say they did the wrong thing, but
they're not dumb people. They've been around boxing their whole lives. They knew
what they were doing. I will say this in this case, they were
dumb people. It contributed to him getting beat. If if Ryan Garcia is
depleted physically in the second half of that fight, he's not the same fighter.
This was a dumb decision to not do that, And they're smart people
that do dumb things all the time. I don't know that it ultimately would
have mattered if he stepped in the ring ten pounds lighter because he didn't hydrate
as much. Well about no one, No one knows that. But let's
let's do that on one thing, just one thing about Bill and Devin.
See, you know your your your point is your voint is valid. I'm
not saying you're not right. They just obviously seem to disagree with you,
But you agree with this. I don't mean to sidetrack you. They were
arrogant enough to think with all the craziest craziness that's gone on this entire week
with the fact that he's now overweight. We got this guy and it doesn't
matter what he weighs. That to me, but it screams that to me
from a distance of it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to get these stipulations.
We're gonna beat it no matter what. That's what screams to me.
Go ahead. I'm not in their mind, and I'm not going to call
them arrogant. I'm not going to call them names. Number two. In
the post fight both Bill who I saw a video he did in Sunday and
also in the social media messages that that Devin Handy posed, and also in
his post fight interview, you know what, they showed class and defeat.
They didn't cry about it. They didn't They could have bitch and moan about
the weight. They could have done a lot of things. They could have
made a lot of excuses. They could have talked about, you know,
any number of things about the about the way that the fight went. But
they they acted like sportsmen and whatever their personal feelings are, they didn't let
it hang out in the public. They basically said Ryan's a good fighter,
congratulations. We'd like to do a rematch when he makes weight, And I
think that's a very acceptable line of conversation by both of them afterwards to not
you know, drag everything out and bitch and complain. I know you've heard
me say many times on the show. I'm not big on excuses. They
didn't make any excuses none whatsoever, So I give them a lot of credit
for that. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit here and shit on the
Hanies because some people think they should have gotten a little bit more on the
Friday with the weight, and some people, you know, would disagree with
the way they handle it. But in defeat, they handled like class like
professionals. And you know what I'll say this, Hanus twenty five years old.
You know what he did on Saturday in losing to Ryan Garcia does not
negate the fact that he went to Australia twice and b cambosis. It doesn'tgate
the fact that he that he defeated Lomachenko in a close fight. It doesn't
negate the fact that he won a shutout decision and with a knockdown against Regis
program. You know, you lose a fight, you lose a fight.
It's boxing. I mean, other than you know, a couple of guys
you get count on one hand, you know the fighters they lose. He's
still a quality fighter. Now, maybe he's been shown to not have the
kind of chin that maybe some people thought, because Ryan also happens to have
one of the best, you know, single punches in the entire sport in
terms of landing as left hook. That's a devastating punch. It always has
been, and to probably be his money maker until the day he's done with
the sport. And you know, you'd like to think that defensively, they
would have been a little more prepared for him. But I'll say this is
also one thing. It's hard to be in the fight the way he was
because it was still a close fight even with the knockdowns, because he was
badly damaged with the first left hook. That was that the first you know,
I was coming right there, I was coming right there a minute into
the fight. I use the word detonated. Ryan Garcia detonated the left hand
and he hurt Devin Haney. Now, to Hannes's credit, HAINI survived that
first round. He lost that first round, but then after that I thought
Haini was in control through the middle of the fight, into the middle of
the fight from there on. But to that point, how much do you
think him getting Haney's attention hurting him altered that fight for good? What do
you think on that tack? I think it, no question it did.
I don't think Devin even though he ended up winning. Like let's say he
loses round one obviously, now you got two, three, four, five,
six before the crazy seventh, which we'll get to. Of the second
through the sixth round, Haini probably won four of those rounds. Great,
maybe five of those rounds. I mean, people make it out like see
in this another thing that drives me absolutely wacky. And I mean I'm gonna
stand on my soapbox for a minute. With all the dummies on social media,
No way could hany have won that fight. He got knocked down three
times. They should have counted more knockdowns. Blah blah, blah blah.
Here are the facts of the situation. A whatever your opinion is about how
many knockdowns that should have been called, the fact is it was three,
not four, not five. Again, we can maybe say Harvey Dock didn't
have the best night ever as a referee fight. But there were three knockdowns
officially scored. There was also a point deduction from Ryan Garcia, so that
would in essence and the scoring make it two knockdowns and then plenty of rounds
where Ryan Garcia was completely outboxed and out uscle by Devin Haney. And therefore,
you know, one of the judges had at one twelve to one twelve.
The other two obviously had you know, Ryan winning. But again,
it's not about knockdowns. It's about fucking math. Every boxing match is about
math. People. I had one person on Twitter say, well, you
can't score three knockdowns in a fight and not win, Like the hell you
can't. And I gave the one of the great examples I can think of
because I was ringside Atlantic City the first fight between Vladimir Klitchko and Samuel Peter
in an IBF heavyweight title eliminator. Sam Peter, big strong puncher, knocked
Vladimir klitic go down three times and Klitschko went every other round of the fight
and won a clear decision. Yeah, but he goes I'm a deck three
times. You know, Ryan Garcia scored three knockdowns, but that doesn't mean
you win the fight. You have to score twelve three minute segments, yep,
and then do the math. So therefore it's a close fight, yes,
aesthetically or Ryan Garcia kicked his ass, but you doesn't make a difference
because again, if it doesn't end in a knockout, you have to do
mathematics. So that's the point there. But it was an inspired performance from
Ryan. I actually think that Devin found it maybe so easy after the being
hurt in round one to outbox him, that he didn't realize that that Ryan
still had some stuff to do. And Ryan very strategically, if you will,
picked his spots to explode, because Ryan only fought in spots. He
wasn't fighting quote unquote three minutes of every round, but he picked his spots
when he had the opportunity and was able to get the hook in. So
for the first half of the fight, other than that you know, hard
shot that really hurt him bad in round one, it was basically all Haney
for the first half of the fight. Now we can discuss round seven and
after, so let's get into that. And and to his credit, Haney
credited Garcian and said, I fell asleep that's the the metaphor he used.
And he got caught again in the seventh round with a big left hand again
and this time dropped for the first time in his professional career. He's down
on the ground and it's early in the round, and yes, shout out,
I thought, Todd Grisham, Sergio Mora, Chris Mannis for the most
part rose to the occasion and did a great job. And Mannix was the
first one saying, Sergio, there's over two minutes left and his legs are
gone. I was did you think in that moment this may be a t
KO. I'm sitting watching thinking this could be over right here. He's got
too long to survive in that in that seventh round. For all the for
all the the the positives and all the applauding that Ryan Garcia gets and deserves
for the way he won the fight, you got to give similar credit and
applause to the balls and the toughness and the heart that Devin Hainey showed to
go twelve rounds after taking those three knockdowns plus the shot in the first round,
plus what maybe some people could argue were at least one more knockdown that
was not called. He showed, as he said, I'm a true champion.
I showed I can fight through, you know, adversity and still make
it a fight, which he did. And so I think both guys deserve
a lot of credit for the way that the fight went uh in terms of
the way that the fight. You know, whether it was going to be
a knockout right there in round seven or not, you know, that was
the round. Also that right after that big knockdown, you know, for
obvious reasons, you had a herd fighter in Devin Hainey, you know,
doing what fighters do. They're grabbing on, trying to kill the clock whole
bit, try to you know, frustrate the opponent all over the place.
Fell over two other times. So when Harvey Dock went to break them,
Ryan Garcia threw a right hand on the brake and you can't do that,
and he deducted on one point. Not only was the point deduction, you
know that was obviously you don't know how the fight's gonna end up, and
maybe at the point's going to be a significant factor in the end result.
As it turnout, it didn't matter in the final scoring. But what was
more important at that moment even more than the point was. It gave Devin
Hainey, even if it was just, you know, six or seven extra
seconds to get a shit together, that can make a big difference, and
I think that was partly a way that he was able to survive the remainder
of round number seven. You know, there's been ob've seen again arguments from
people about Harvey Doc calling that foul and taking the point I have. I'm
kind of ambivalent about that. On the one hand, it's absolutely a foul
to hit on the brake, yes, one hundred percent. I don't care
what the situation is. You cannot you know, the two fouls that I
see people get away with too much are hitting on the brake and hitting behind
the head. Ryan Garcia hit him after the break. I'm not even saying
Ryan Garcia did it on purpose. I don't think Ryan's a dirty fighter,
but clearly he hit him on the break and you can't do that. Now.
My personal perspective was it wasn't like that bad, and maybe it should
have required a very hard warning don't do that shit, or I'm taking a
point, and that would have been okay. But Harvey Doc is a very
experience CHAMPIONSHIPUBBO referee. He made the decision standing two feet away from these guys
that was above what he felt was worth just a warning, and he docked
him the point. So you know, I personally would have not docked him
the point right there. I would have said to give him a hard warning.
Harvey made the decision to take the point, so be it. That's
his right. It's not like he's not allowed to do that. It might
be a little bit more hard for than than most people would have expected,
but I didn't really think it was that big of a deal. And again
you don't know it at the time, but in the end result they did
not have an impact on the result of the fight, thankfully. All Right,
A couple more interesting aspects to this. Hainey actually recovered in between rounds
and I thought won the eighth round, and I thought won the ninth round.
He's back in control of the fight. Now you can debate that.
And I don't know about the official scoring. Obviously, the one judge that
had it wide for Ryan Garcia probably didn't give Haney both the eighth and ninth
round. He may have given Garcia the eighth and the ninth round. I
don't know, but I really thought he had gotten in control of the fight
back and then lo and behold, Boom goes the dynamite again with the left
hand. Just switch rounds. Did you say you thought that the eighth and
the ninth? I thought Hany recovered in the eighth and one night, both
of those rounds, and I thought he won the ninth as well. And
I don't know about the official scoring, but to Garcia's credit, again boom
goes the dynamite. He lands the big left hand again in the tenth round
and scores another knockdown. With Haney again on shaky legs, stumbling all over
the place, and amazingly two different rounds, the tenth and the eleventh,
he possibly could have ended this fight. Again. Don't worry about the judges,
don't worry about the scorecards. So what's your thought there on? Because
I thought, tactically, one thing Garcia was doing, and even I think
Sergio Mora mentioned it, he's getting too close to him and allowing Haney to
grab him instead of keep you know, the extra foot or two feet away
and try to tag him from long range and in the fight with Haney standing
around everywhere, but go ahead, he was kind of smothering himself a little
bit, and some people were bitching and moaning about route the holding that Devin
Haney was doing, which he was doing holding, but it's up to the
referee to make him stop that. If you can get away with it and
you're the fighter, you keep doing it until the referee takes a pointer stops
you from doing it. So on the one hand, I have no I
don't quarrel with Devin for holding on, for basically doing what he had to
do to try to survive the fight. On the other hand, Harvey,
again as an experience championship referee, I would have liked to see a little
bit more stern warning and perhaps a point deduction if necessary for the constant holding
in the eleventh round. Ryan made the point at his postfight press conference,
which I watched after the fight. He didn't say this, I don't believe
this was in the ring, was that he felt like that he had Devin
really badly hurt in round eleven, and that he said he even looked at
Bill Haney and said you should stop the fight, and he didn't stop the
fight and it continued on. And do you go back in terms of just
the previous round, we're also had a knockdown. You know, Ryan made
the point about, you know, his left hook being you know, the
money maker, so to speak, but more importantly said, I got so
excited that I cost you know, I just I got so excited that I
kind of over I kind of got way over my This is not his word,
this is my like I got to hit him, I got my over
my skis, so to speak. And he just couldn't finish him because he
was so excited. And you know, that's a more mature fighter or a
guy that might have been more active or you know, had dealt with that
kind of situation before. You show a little more calmness, a little more
precision, a little more poise, you take the step back, you know,
And that just he's got an excitable personality and he just you know,
you're in the heat of the battle, as I say, you're in the
crucible, and and uh, you know, he just couldn't get the stoppage
because he was a usual word, sloppy. I think he got sloppy.
That's fair, whether he's excited or whatever, and couldn't finish him. And
uh, again, this was a tremendous fight. I will I will say
for the first time here, if Doc stopped it at some point in one
of those rounds with the knockdowns, that wouldn't have been necessarily the worst thing
I've read, And it was maybe a punch or two away from that's it.
But this is the fight of the year to this point. Now we'll
see what else happens in the next few weeks because we got some massive fights.
This was tremendous drama for all of the stuff out of the ring,
and obviously Hany being able to survive now calls into question. What's going to
happen with the decision in round twelve? And I thought that that Devin Haney
won the twelfth round. I thought he was in the twelfth round. Did
you think he won the twelfth round? And then bring it down for me
on your car go ahead, Well, I mean I thought he won the
twelfth round. There was one I forget which round it was that I had
written very close or something like that, because I'm keeping score, like you
know, on paper, or actually I'm keeping score in my computer and I'm
typing it. But I wrote basically, you know, made the notation that
was a super close round that I felt could have gone either way. You
know, I felt like if you had a well, you really couldn't have
a draw because of the wackiness of the point deductions and the knockdowns and the
whole thing, right, But if you had Ryan Garcia winning of the fight
no issue whatsoever, I don't think you could have him winning wide. But
I also felt like, you know what, the one judge that had at
one twelve one twelve, I didn't think that was off base. And if
you had to fight like that, no issue. If you had to fight
one point in favor of Haney, which would have meant you probably gave him
most of those first six other than round one, it meant you probably gave
him two, three, four or five, six or some or most of
those rounds and maybe the twelfth also, and you could come up with him
winning. And the thing that people kind of forget about is that, yeah,
he got the three knockdowns, but in terms of the way that it
impacted the scoring, it was really only two knockdowns because the offset was the
point deduction. So round seven is like a wash. It's a nine to
eight round because you have a ten eight round for Hany in favor of Garcia,
because he knocked Haney down and then he loses a point on the deduction,
which makes it nine to eight, which is the way that it was
scored on the score cards. The way they do it on the official cards
is it says ten to eight and then it has a minus one. So
now that in their math actually adds up to a nine eight round, right,
So you know, it was a really close, really close fight.
It was by no means a blow out, because again it's math that's not
knockdowns and not damage, and not blood and not you know who's wobbly on
their legs. It's simple adding up a bunch of nines, a bunch of
tens, a couple of you know, three eighths or whatever, and coming
up with your score. So I had no problem with Ryan winning the fight.
I did think it was very, very close, and I can certainly
see a way that you can have Devin Haney winning by like one point or
having a draw in the one twelve one twelve, which was the score of
the one judge. But look, Garcia wins the fight, all credit to
him. I want to get into one other factor about this though, that
somehow, because he won, it makes all of us who were worried about
him, who said he was having all kinds of problems and breakdowns, that
somehow that no longer is an issue and that doesn't exist, and it was
fraud and fake and we're all a bunch of idiots. You know what I
said several times in the build up. If he lands the left hook and
wins, good for him. But I'll have done it in spite of himself,
not because he's something you know, supernatural and that you can screw around
like that and get away with it. It was in spite of all the
nonsense, and part of that obviously was a defect in the Hainy plant I
suppose. So just because he scored with the hook and won the fight does
not change the fact that he was unhinged, and I don't believe he was
trolling. I still believe that for many reasons, that he was doing this,
not because it was a work, but because he really has a lot
of problems and if there was anything to go on that all you have to
do, once again is listen to his post fight press conference where he I
don't even have my recollection. He wasn't even prompted to say this. He
was just sort of talking about, you know what he was doing in the
build of the fight. I will quote you from the press conference. I
walked through fire and still held it down, still fucking beat Devin Ainey,
and still drank every day and still beat him. I did everything, drank
every single less, went out on Monday and Tuesday and drank and drank.
What happened. I won, Not necessarily am I proud of it. I
do whatever I want and I still win. That my friend is going to
get somebody defeated at some point because they don't think they's unhinged. That's unhinged.
Now again, all the people that say I'm a hater of Garcia because
I said what I said in the pre fight, on the fucking contrary,
I said what I said because I with no dog in the fight. I
don't make any extra money. I'm not a hanger on on Garcia. I'm
not using him as an ATM. You know, I actually cared about the
kid. I want to see him be healthy. It doesn't change my life
if he's a drunk, or he gets knocked out, or he wins or
he loses. Same with any makes no difference in my life or whatsoever.
I just say what I think. I saw a very troubled young man who's
got a lot of issues, who was somehow good, God bless him,
was able to overcome and get in the ring and do his job. But
all that does is cover up the real problems. And if you think that
he can go through camp after camp after camp, drinking on fight week and
being a mess like that, that is just pure fantasy. And you know
you watched the stuff that was posted in the aftermath again, drinking, smoking,
dope, the whole thing. You know it's not cool. I mean
I again, I still, I still have concern for him. I'm not
unhappy he won. None of that and his family, I'm with you.
None of that's change. But it doesn't change the fact that he he was
unhinged. It doesn't change what happened. Here's You love my analogies, and
you love baseball. I've often used this analogy. There are times in Little
League when a kid might close his eyes and hit a home run or even
hit a grand Slam. You cannot take that away, Rayphiel. It does
not come off the board. Just don't tell me that you knew how to
do it, or you did it on purpose? If you did it my
boxing analogy Olive Roam called closed his eyes and landed a shot on Lennox Lewi
and knocked himut, became heavyweight champion. But he didn't do it on purpose.
He took a he took a shot in the dark, and he happened
to land on the gin. So, so a couple of I'd rather be
lucky than good, Yes, that's correct, and so and he was,
and I know what you mean by that, but he was more than lucky.
He was definitely still from a stamina standpoint, he was and this is
what I keep coming back to. He still had legs, he still had
punch in the tenth round, in the eleventh round, he wasn't worn out.
And it's a twelve round fight and he gets the win. All right,
So you know where I'm going with it. Well, two things.
First of all, overall, did you believe that the job that Harvey Dock
did, Because there's a lot of controversy around the job that he did,
and many people believing that he was giving Devin Haney way too much slack,
taking the point away, not penalizing him for holding when he was flopping around
with no legs late in the fight, tenth round, eleventh round. Did
you believe that Harvey Dock's job was good, average, bad overall? How
would you assess it? Because there's a lot of debate going on. Sure,
I mean, as somebody who has watched Harvey Dock referee plenty of huge
fights for a long time, I'd always thought extremely highly of him as a
referee as well as as a p having met him on several occasions in New
York for fights I have been to, and also in Vegas as well.
Very even tempered, very even Keel doesn't try to make it about himself,
you know that type of thing like some some guys do. I think when
Harvey goes back and looks at the fight, he'd have to admit this was
not my best night. Now, I explained to you my thoughts about the
point deduction. I didn't agree with it, but I get it. I'm
not even the other times when when HAINI was on the mat, Like honestly,
I went back and looked at some of those I couldn't tell if it
was a knockdown or a slip like it looked like it go either way.
So he's the guy standing right there, so I kind of got to give
him the bene of the doubt. The one thing that did make me irritated
about the way he handled the fight was the lack of the warnings or any
kind of serious punishment for the constant holding on behalf of Handy. Just because
he's hurt doesn't mean you can't penalize it, because it's still a foul.
To continue holding is part of boxing. What's doing it to the excess is
not. And let me bring this up. Go back and watch the fur
I'm saying to the audience, not to you. Go back and watch the
first half of the fight. I'm not talking about once or twice. I'm
talking about fifteen times in the first six rounds of the fight, and it
may have been twenty or more. Where Devin Haney scores comes to follow up,
and what does Ryan Garcia do. He bear hugs him, He grabs
him around the head, he grabs him around the upper body, over and
over and over again. And I thought in that first part of the fight,
Harvey Dock did not get control of the fight and did not say to
Ryan Garcia, if you keep doing that, I'm gonna take a point away
and then take a point away to get that part under control. So it's
almost like it was loosely officiated for the entire twelve people. Now Hany's doing
it later in the fight and holding and grabbing for dear life. So some
people are making it seem like he was somehow doing something to favor between you,
and in fact he was favor. I mean, I'm not saying he
did this on purpose, but it appeared as though both guys got benefits.
Yes, And also there was a time where when Ryan did grab him and
try to turn to the side, he started whacking him with the right hand
into the into his flank, numerous body shots. I think it was in
a six round maybe, and he didn't say anything because that's a legal punch.
Your hands are freeing. And Garcia not once, but Garcia probably more
than a half dozen times, kept turning his back. Yeah, kept turning
his back and pinches and again that's not allowed. And that's something that Harvey
Dock again should have probably not should have, should have gotten in control of
and said stop doing that, because I can stop the fight if you keep
doing that. If you're turning your back you're putting yourself in jeopardy. You're
not defending yourself, which is the creed at the very beginning of the fight.
So I think the criticism is warranted that he didn't have control of that
fight early on. For the holding, plutching, grabbing that Garcia was doing.
Again, I'll be slightly critical. Those guys did a tremendous job.
But Chris Mannix said, I don't you know, I don't understand what the
what the warning is for holding about the fifth or sixth round, and I
kind of said, you should be saying he should be warning Ryan Garcia stop
grabbing him around the head and around the neck every time he comes in in
the first five or six rounds, because it happened over and over and over
again. Now that the not determine the winner. What determined the winner was
the big left hand, the big left hand scoring the knockdowns and scoring enough
points to get the decision win. All right, So we've gone on about
this a lot. You know, we're to go next with the future.
That's what I'm going right there. What happens now? Because Garcia said after
the fight, if there's a rematch, it's got to be at welterweight,
I can't even make one forty anymore, so in your opinion, now,
with twenty four plus hours to digest this one of that twenty four hours of
digestic what do you think happens next? And do you think we get a
rematch fairly soon in the in the welterweight weight range that Garcia was hinting at,
or a catch weight what do you make of all that? Well?
In the ring afterwards, both guys, you know, Hanie understandable said don't
want the rematch. He was overweight, I'm still champed, but we can
do it again. You know, I gave him the shot, he should
give me the shot. That's the general talking point whenever this type of thing
happened. So I genuinely believe that Haini would like to have the rematch,
and he knows that he's capable of doing certain things against Garcia, and obviously
I think he'd be much more prepared for the left hook, knowing now what
it feels like, having you know, been dropped by it multiple times.
Garcia was like, yeah, let's run it back. But I don't think
he really wants to do that. There are other bigger fights out there.
For him. Frankly, I'm not saying that the rematch can't ever happen in
the future. It still will be in his back pocket. It will still
be in attractive fight that a lot of people will want to see. Obviously,
part of that will have to see what the pay per view numbers come
up with, you know whatever. You know, kind of weeks out over
the next several days, as the numbers start to come back, you know,
we'll see about that. If it was a huge, huge hit,
you know, that made it easier to make a rematch. If it tanked
and did no business, that's a different story. So I don't I don't
think that in good conscience, I couldn't hear her tell you the rematch will
be next. I don't think that will be the case, Not to say
that it can't happen down the road. Ryan actually was very interesting, you
know, asked about his future, he did make the point. Look,
even when he moved up to one hundred and forty, he did make the
point. I never even thought, really at one hundred and forty, I
always fought like at one forty three, because he wasn't fighting in title fights
or eliminators or anything like that. He actually said, I had a vision
of going up to one p fifty four knocking out Sabashian Fandora because I think
I can do that just to grab a title and no offense to Fondora,
you know, shout out to him. You know, he gave him respect,
but he's like, that would be you know something interesting. He talked
about how he fought big, tall guys and sparring and knocked him out and
that sort of stuff. I'm not sure what six foot six guy he ever
sparred with, but the point is, tell me you wouldn't be interested that
He's see Fundora against Ryan Garcia obviously, So there's gonna be a huge amount
of possibilities for Ryan because he can fight, you know, a little below
welterweight. At welterweight, he talked about junior middleweight. There's a lot of
talent, a lot of action in and around those weight classes. So he'll
be back, I'm sure at the end of this year for a second fight
this year. It's a matter of what weight's he gonna fight out. I'm
assuming it's gonna be welter wait, and there are big fights now. Oscar
de la Hoya's promoter from Golden Boy was there with him, actually showed up
at the press covererence this time because his guy won instead of getting knocked out.
And Bernard Hopkins was there also, who happened to somehow there was a
security risk after the Tank Davis fight, but there was no security risk at
Barclay Center at the post fight, even though it was all the same group
of people at the post fight. So you know, take that for what
you want. But the point is Oscar, and Oscar knows all about this
because he was in this position when he was the face of boxing. He
was the biggest pay per view star, and he was the man that everybody
wanted to watch and everyone wanted to fight. And he did make a valid
point. He goes, you know what, Ryan is going to be the
one to call the shots, and he explained the reason why, because if
you want to make money, you can come fight Ryan Garcia. Because there's
no doubt at this stage of the game. If you fight Tank, if
you fight Ryan Garcia, if you fight Tank Davis, if you fight certain
guys, you're gonna make those big paydays. If you fight Canelo Alvarez,
and those are guys that call the shots and those type of man. So
if he wants to fight at a catchwaight, fine, if you want to
fight at one forty seven, fine, But whatever they fight, it it's
going to be Ryan's call. He's calling the shots, saying, you know
what, the winner, you know, gets to write the history, so
to speak. Right, if you do the team that wins, you know,
if you win the war, you write the history. That's right.
And so Ryan Garcia gets to call. You win the championships, you get
the parade, you get the rings, and in boxing you get the belts
and you get to call the shot on the next fight. Now, my
question he still he still doesn't have a belt. Well, that's true.
My question would be what do we know about their rocky relationship and how many
fights are left in their relationship and how does that effect what Garcia might or
might not do. I would assume there's at least a fight left on the
deal going back and forth. What do we know and how does how,
if at all, does that affect things? Just real quick? Yeah,
I mean I don't I don't know the number of fights. Obviously they got
along smoke, you know, very well over the last while. They seem
very chummy. I mean, people were joking around about for all of the
animosity that there appeared to be between Oscar and Ryan, that suddenly during the
media workout in the week, you know, you've got Oscar in the ring,
down on one knee, tying Ryan shoes like he's his uncle or his
brother or his best buddy. So you know, they're always gonna probably have
a love hate type of situation. There's always gonna be volatility there, there's
always gonna be the the drama. Ryan and Oscar are two high maintenance kind
of guys, similar kinds of personalities, and sometimes I think Oscar sees a
lot of himself and Ryan and vice versa, even if there's a lot of
differences as well. Obviously, Oscar was a guy that not only was winning
exciting fights, but you know, one in a zillion titles and was you
know, a pound for pound type of guy for a while for a long
time. So I think they'll continue to work together. For the time being.
They seem like things went well, but you never know, you know,
the old saying and not just boxing TJ and anything is everything is fine
until it's not. And for now it's fine because he got the win.
Okay, so we gave you a ton on that. I kind of like
the line from Todd Grisham going off the year when they showed all the other
fights on the undercard, and I'm paraphrasing, but I think this was pretty
much Yet who cares about the rest of the fights that were on this card
because of the main event? And part of that was because we said garbage
going into the weekend on these matchups. But let's do give it because this
is the fight freaks U nined recap. Let's give it a couple of minutes
here. Arnold Barbosa got his hand raised in the co feature. I want
your feeling on that. We saw a technical decision win for Beck the Bully,
but really the undercard Jimenez David H. Meenez was good against Scrappy Ramirez
in winning that title in that division in that smaller weight fight. All right,
what are your thoughts on the undercard real quick before we move on to
news and nostalgia. The other fights, Well, that fight that you mentioned,
the Scrappy Ramirez and in then as that was the best fight of the
underhard but let's go in order. From Barbosa in the co feature he was
matched up with Sean mccombey Northern Ireland, South pop with no reputation, nice
record eighteen and one, and obviously Barbosa, in a second fight of a
three fight contract with Goldenway, was obviously the significant favorite. And then that's
why they fight the fights, because you have Macomb, who was a lot
taller, who was longer, who did a good job with his jet,
who I thought control the fight from start to finish. I thought he won
probably seven or eight rounds of the fight. I heard them announce ninety eight
to ninety two. I'm like, okay, he got the fight, and
that was one of the scores for him, was ninety eight to ninety two,
so okay, And then they gave the other two score cards ninety seven
ninety three, ninety six ninety four to Barbosa, and I was like,
what the fuck are we doing here? That was just a bad scoring.
What are we doing here that that somebody would score that fight and say that
Macomb only won three rounds ninety seven ninety three, what he did? It?
Are we on? Barbosa just did not win that fight. And by
the way, the most telling thing ever in a boxing match when the bell
rings to end the fight, and you see a guy basically walk back to
his corner with his head down and they're not talking to each other. No
one's slapping anybody on the back. There just putting their head down and there's
no emotion, there's no nothing but a bunch of long faces. And they're
just going through the motions of cutting his gloves off and taking the wraps off.
They know they lost that fight. Yeah, and a fucking story.
And even Barbosa in his commentary to the Too I think it was to Manics
in the interview, was yeah, it wasn't my best performance. I'll be
you know, I'll do better next time. Well yeah, okay, fine,
but you didn't really deserve this victory that I thought was a disgrace.
It was terrible, terrible decision, and Barbosa, in my opinion, showed
that while he is a solid fighter, he is not at the top level
of the junior walterweight division compared to the guys that make the division so deep.
I'm talking about, you know, all the top guys we saw with
with Haney and uh and Garcia and Tiathimo Lopez and you know, several other
fighters in the division. Uh so, you know, Barbosa, you know,
I'm not sure what what what he does coming off this one because that
was just a not a good performance from Barbosa, and obviously I felt like
a terrible decision. Beck the Bully gets the very bloody technical decision over Pere
Pierre. I'm sorry, Pere France. They had a bunch of head butts
in that fight. The Bombay was actually better than I had thought he would
be based on him giving him a lot of credit because that in their nasty,
awful gash in the second round from a clash of heads, a butt,
whatever you want to call it. And he fought on for like four
or five rounds and then Beck the Bully on a clash of heads round his
left eye ripped open and they have to eventually stop the fight because of the
blood flow. This is not what happened in the Tim Zoom fight when it
went on for ten rounds. After about a round, his corner said he
can't see. I mean, let's go to the cards, and eventually they
go to the cards and the card that list. The scoring of the cards
was fine. I mean he ended up winning, like you know, seven
to one on two cards and six two, I think. And the other
the thing that was that drives me crazy is that they had to score a
round number eight even though like the bell rang a couple seconds past they stopped
the fight. Nobody threw a qunch. I hadn't looked at that card.
I gotta believe they must have scored that round even or something. How do
you give it to anybody? Nothing happened. But here's more to the point,
and the more significant factor is ay, when the Bombay gets his I
healed up in the right fight. I wouldn't mind seeing him again because I
thought he showed something. He didn't win the fight, but he was.
He competed, and he competed hard, and he did so at a very
significant handicap because of the cut. So we may never have heard of him
before this fight, but he looked he was in great condition. Absolutely bring
him and see him in another solid type of fight. As far as Beck,
you know, they've made this guy out to be like some kind of
future killer. And again I'm not looking to dump on him or anything.
As I said to somebody the other night, I said the first time,
or I should say this the next time, that Beck impresses me is going
to be the first time I have watched him fight time and time and time
again, and I've yet to be impressed by anything. He's got a little
bit of brute power, not a lot of technique, you know. I'm
sure you know he hits like a little bit of a sledgehammer. But I
do not in any way see this guy as like a future of the super
midweight division at all. I'm sure he's a lovely guy. I'm not wishing
that. I'm just saying I watch him time and again and I just don't
see it. End of story. In terms of Scrappy Ramirez and David Amenez,
that's a good upset for him Inez. I mean, Ramirez was the
guy that they were, you know, counting on, the undefeated guy with
the big personality. He fought his ass off. There was a heck of
a fight. Yeah, entertaining fight, the most entertaining fight on the undercart
for sure. David is from Costa Rica. Tremendous story. By the way,
our friends at bet us are based in Costa Rica and a couple of
them we're talking about to me off the year about Hey, Jimenez in the
ring for this world title fight. I thought it was interesting what they were
saying. He doesn't have anyone in his division or the next division up to
even fight in Costa Rica. There's not another essentially professional fighter. He's got
to go fight outside of the country because there's nobody else. So great,
he puts himself in a great suspicion because he wins. He wins what was
the vacant WBA interim title at one hundred and fifteen pounds, you know,
Mike Quaro with the WBA and with Gilberto Mendoza. As they said they would
not use interim titles anymore other than in the event of an injury, like
they did with what happened when Roly Rameiro was out for a bit. But
this was done against their policy. The reason that was given to me,
which I don't like, but I guess that's way it's gonna be, is
because you got the WBA champion in that weight class. Because Zuto Ioka,
who was supposed to fight Scraper mara Is in a mandatory fight, who said
he had a hand injury, sent a medical report. I don't know what
came of that. They wouldn't answer me about it, and now suddenly he's
got a fight set against the IBF champion, Fernando Martinez that's supposed to take
place July seventh in Tokyo. So therefore the wbos WBA basically took the same
tack that the IBF took, which is at the that the the unification will
trump the mandatory, but at least in the IBF, when they allow that
happen, they don't let the mandatory then go fight for an interim title.
So I feel like this is not an appropriate interim thing. Uh, you
know, the WBC has done it several times with their interim champions. It's
just annoying as hell, but it's a great win for Jimenez, and theoretically,
if the Gauzudo, Ioka and Martinez fight takes place as plant and the
winner of that fight is going to have a decision to make about making a
mandatory of the WBA title, which will come against Amenez, who fought his
asthmav. It was a good that look putting all the politics in the nonsense
of the titles aside, because frankly, the fight wouldn't have happened if it
wasn't for that interim title. People have to remember that we can dump on
the organizations all we want, but they do help make certain fights happen,
and this would have not taken place if not for that belt. But putting
the politics aside, Ramirez and Jimenez, they put on a very entertaining fight,
best fight of the undercart, and you know, good luck to both
of them going forward. I definitely want to see Scrappy again. Even though
he lost and Jimenez was like a revelation. He fought a Heliba fight and
real quick. Charles Conwell got a TKO win. We haven't seen him in
a while, and Sergei Davianchenko also got a decision win. Quick thoughts on
that before. We sure it was good to see Conwell back. He's a
very talented fighter, United States Olympian in twenty sixteen, off to a tourment,
you know, a very good start to his career. He's now nineteen
and oh his problem was he's been he'd been off since like November of twenty
twenty two, had a lot of management issues, switched promoters and and just
a lot of stuff that was going on. And so finally he's able to
get back in the ring now he signed with Golden Boy. He had become
a free agent, and they put him up with Nathaniel Gallimore, you know,
a solid veteran who you know usually makes his opponents work for the win.
Even if he doesn't win the fight, he makes his opponents, you
know, definitely know they were in a fight. I guess as a way
to look at it's only been stopped a few times, you know, but
solid dude. I don't know if that belonged on the pay per view,
but it was good to see kind of go back because he can definitely make
some noise in one hundred and fifty four pound way class that you know,
with Charlow having been stripped to the various titles or vacating the various titles,
there'll be some opportunity for him. He's got a high ranking in the WBC
because when he won the fight back in that November twenty two fight that I
mentioned, that was a WBC semi final eliminator, So he's very high up
and in position to fight for the final eliminator, perhaps even for a world
title. Obviously, Fondora's got the That situation's got to play out with whether
there'll be a Zuober rematch. But Conwall is in a great position Golden Bay
will keep him active and that dude can fight. I mean he's a rough
time, He's a rough dude. He's got some solid power. And I
feel like when I watched Charles Conwall fight the guy that he fights, whatever
happens, know is they were in a freaking fight. They wake up the
next morning sore all over because the way he punches. And deviren Chenko was
the final fight of the preliminaries that were not on the pay per view but
the free part of the cart that they showed on the Zone and on YouTube
channel. This was his first fight since the Fight of the Year candidate or
in some quarters they called it the fight of the year, that really outstanding
fight that he had against Honeymongia, that was just a great battle. Lost
that fight just because of a knockdown in the final round of the fight.
So this was get back on the horse, Golden boy. They're not his
promoter, but they owed him comeback fight off of that contract and they match
him up with the well traveled journeyman Vaughn Alexander, and Vaughn lost every single
round. Devin Chinkle won a shout out ten round decision, but Vaughn.
You know, he had his moments. He fought okay, just not enough
to win the rounds. Sergey can never put himself in an easy fight,
even though you look at the score guardgency, Okay, it's a shutout situation.
Believe me. When that fight was over, these both of these guys
knew they were in a rough, tough battle. And hopefully Devin Chanko cann't
get himself back into another fight. If they can maybe make him on gear
renatch down the road, whatever happens between him and Canelo, that would be
excellent. But uh, you know he's gonna definitely live to fight another day.
And there you go. All right, so we gave you a bunch
on that card in Brooklyn, New York, where Ryan Garcia obviously is the
story coming off the weekend, all right, some other news and then some
nostalgia because I ask him one other question about sure you can go ahead.
Maybe we should do this on the next bet Us show. We should handicap
how long he's gonna party after this win? H what's the over under?
I don't maybe are we talking about like days, weeks? Are we talking
months? On the overall? Any weeks? Week? I mean right now,
he's got every reason to live it up at this point because again he
got the win, and he deserves the win. We cannot overemphasize enough Devin
Hainey was on a big time role, one of the best pound for pound
fighters, and Ryan Garcia put him on the deck not once, not twice,
but three times and should have should have, should have should have stopped
him on two of the occasions with a full round to go. A tremendous
but in a fight, in a fight where Haney was a prohibitive favorite in
terms of the betting, the members and a lot of people, myself included,
and I don't apologize for this whatsoever, and never will. I'll die
on the hill that they didn't think that Ryan belonged in the fight, not
because he's not a good fighter, just because he had a lot of issues.
You and they box. Everybody's an agree everybody wants to revise history.
His own people were fearful obviously of what they were seeing. They had to
be, and yet he still found a way. I did tweet this out
though, because we do this with the handicapping. The Garcia decision prop paid
sixteen to one. If you had it sixteen to one for him to win
by decision. It was eight to one for him to win by knockout.
But incredible that he gets that, gets that whin. I some news and
then we'll get to some nostalgia and we're getting out of here. So in
the middle of this pay perview, suddenly there was the official announcement through social
media for Premiere Boxing Champions and Amazon Prime Video that they will have a pay
per view in June, June fifteenth. Rayfield, We're going to be on
a roll here for like the next two months, every couple of weeks.
Good. So Gervante Davis is back to fight Frank the Ghost Martin in the
main event for Davis's WBA lightweight title, and also David Benavitez in the co
feature, will fight for the WBC's vacant interim light heavyweight title against Alexander Vodzick.
All right, so they made that announcement. Your thoughts there, They
were trying to steal some of the thunder I guess on at least socially,
but go ahead, Yeah, I mean, actually I kind of disagree with
that. That sort of philosophy. They really got buried by the Haini Garcia
fight. It was like like they didn't send anything out. I sort of
saw Leonard eller Bey on his social media something about it. I didn't know
if it was real or not, and whatever, I guess it was.
But the point was this was not unexpected. The fact that Tank Davis is
fighting Frank Martin has been a well established fact for quite some time. The
fact that Benavidez is gonna fight Vozik has also been established for ages. So
the fact that they're doing the matches is not in any way a surprise.
The date is not a surprise. For a long time, it was sort
of are we going to do this next PBC prime card? Is it going
to be on June fifteenth or June twenty second. There was a lot of
back and forth. That might be in Houston, it might be in Atlanta,
that there were some people that reached out about New York. In the
end, you know, they went back home to Las Vegas, to the
MGM Grand Garden Arena for whatever the reasons are. But that's the next pay
per view card that PBC will do post the Canelo Mongia fight. I am
told they will have some other event in the month of Jun's that won't be
a pay per view where they'll begin their non pay per view cards. That's
the plan. I think now that they've got this one settled for the June
fifteenth, that the non pay per view might wind up on June twenty second,
the other date that we just mentioned. And in terms of Tank against
Frank Martin, that's a solid fight. You can't really argue with that.
I mean, we all dumped all over Frankfurt the way, not that he
didn't fight shot Corse Stevenson, but the way that they handled it of him
agree and then backing out. But he's got a great opportunity now against one
of the biggest names in boxing in in Tank Davis, and hopefully we see
a good fight if he can rise to the occasion. He's got skills,
not a big puncher. Uh. Solid fight though, can't can't complain about
it. Uh. And in terms of the undercard fight with with Ben Evidie's
look, David has headlined his his own pay per view the last two fights
against Dimitris Andre and against Kayleb Plant, So he's now willing to fight on
this undercard. That definitely beeps that up. And you know, say what
you want about Alexander vodes that he did have a heck of a run where
he became the light heavyweight champion, the lineal champion. He had gone to
Montreal, he had knocked out a Donna Stevenson, ended his career, had
a fantastic fight with better BF. I actually was at that fight. He
got stopped in that fight, lost that was unification, and then he retired
after that fight. And doesn't that he came out of retirement. He was
not old, was not shot, didn't have a whole ton of fights,
and so he's won I don't know what has he won two or three fights
ince Then he's part of that team Canelo with Renoso and it's a great opportunity
for him. Also, we'll see how Benavidez looks at one hundred and seventy
five pounds, and uh, you know what when you get that level of
names on the same show, in Tank and Benavide's and even though they're both
obviously clear favorites in their fights, they're not being matched with guys that are
no good. Vojik is a is a former olympian. He's a guy that
was a legitimate light heavyweight champion. He fought quality opposition. Frank Martin.
We've seen his talent, you know, for the last couple of years,
before you know, he'd sort of emerged with the Michelle Rivera win. I
viewed him as one of the top prospects. I've seen him fight several times
and we'll see. So, I mean so, I can't say on paper,
that's like a plus and that's that's pretty good. When you got the
caliber names on the same show and they're in what seemed to be reasonable fights,
I can't hate it, you know what I mean. So, and
we'll see what else they add to the show, and you know, and
see if they beef it up a little bit more. I did not use
the phrase, but it is the truth. I'll use it here. First
fight since being released from jail for Javonte Davis late last year, he's finally
back in the ring in June, and let's see if we get a much
bigger fight from him late in the year. In twenty twenty four as well,
he'll be off a fourteen month playoff since he knocked out Ryan Mercia.
So we want to see bigger fights from him. You got to have this
one first, all right, Now? When we left things Thursday night into
Friday. I was using the word the phrase checkmate as the metaphor that it
looked like the Terrence Crawford fight with Israel Madramov was not gonna happen. It
apparently now is done. Enlighten me on what has happened since you and I
last talked for Crawford's challenge for the WBA Junior Middleweight title that Madramoff now has
with this coming in August. Tell me more about what we have ironed out
since we left things on our previous pot. So on our previous one,
the way we left it was the plans were for Madramov and Crawford to have
their fight August third in Los Angeles, but you had Jermel Charlow, as
the WBA champion in recess, assert his privilege as that champion in recess to
get the next shot at the champion, which was Madrimov, who won the
vacant title that had been stripped from Charlot when he was made the recess champion.
If you recall, it was not that long ago on the card in
Saudi Arabia where Anthony Joshua fought Frances Naganu that he defeated Magamed Kurbanov to win
the vacant title by a knockout. Look good in that fight, and so
Charlo was gonna trump that as the champion in recess. And Tom Brown,
who was the promoter of you know TGB that handles all the PBC cards as
worked with Charlot for the last several years, sent a letter to the WBA
notifying them that Jermel Charlot was asserting that right and they wanted to have the
next shot against Magiamov. That was on whatever, I forget what day it
was, but that letter. I got a copy of the letter and that's
what it said. That was Wednesday and Thursday, right what I might even
been Tuesday, whatever it was. But the point is like the next day
or two days later, they sent another letter to the WBA Championship Committee basically
clarifying saying that they want to fight the guy. Jamal is coming out of
his sabbatical. He wants to be back at one hundred and fifty four.
But they don't have a problem if Terrence Crawford fights Magromov. So I spoke
to people that are directly involved with the deal of the Magromov in Crawford fight.
I'm told to fight is signed, sealed and delivered. And soon after
that was told to me, there was a press release that was sent out.
They didn't name the fight, but it I mean, just for a
various reasons, I know that it's one hundred percent. There is a press
commerce on Wednesday in Manhattan to announce this fight. Now, what's different about
this fight compared to your typical fight announcement is that Crawford against Majumov. The
people who are backing this fight, it's read Season, it's Saudi Arabia,
it's Turkey al Shic, It's that group that's going to pay the money for
it. It will be their first event in boxing that they do that is
not in Saudi Arabia, not in Riad. They're taking the show on the
road and they're coming to the United States the same way. They plan to
do some type of fall show in London to bring an event to the UK
which potentially could be the next Anthony Joshua fight. So these guys are not
fucking around. I mean, they got a ton of money. They got
a guy in Turkey Alshik, who's a gargantuan boxing fan. He's got essentially
an unlimited budget. That's with the backing of the Saudi Arabian government. And
people keep asking, well, why are they doing this? Do they want
to make money? And I've tried to express this on a couple of occasions.
I'm going to do it one more time. Done it. Well,
listen, this is not listen up in the back go. This is not
about making money. Now, if they make money, great, I'm sure
they don't want to lose money, or they have a certain threshold they're okay
with. But this is the same way you have a company and you spend
seven million dollars and buy a thirty second commercial in the Super Bowl. You
want people to know about your product. You owe people will buy the product.
You want to get word of mouth. You want to bring a positive
light to your your product than what you have to offer. It's the same
exact situation with Saudi Arabia. They are putting on these big events sponsored by
read season. They want the public at large to have a positive light on
the nation of Saudi Arabia, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Part of it
is because I think there are intelligent people there who realize that the world is
not going to subsist on fossil fuels forever, and that they need to find
some other way to bring in revenue, if that means bringing people and advertising
a nice vacation spot for tourists to go to and have great food and great
culture and great concerts and great sports activities and all that. That is one
of the things they're doing. And also, and fair or unfair, a
lot of people have been all over them because of their certain things they've done
in terms of our politics and human rights and things like that. That they
want to show the positive sides I guess of their society and their government and
their country. And so that's why they're doing this, to spread that word.
It's not about what's the return on an investment or your bottom line.
So they are sponsoring this event, I hope, and I'm fair sure knowing
the kinds of events that they've already done, you know, because Crawford imagine
mob there's nothing wrong with the fight, but I don't know if that qualifies
as some mega fight. But based on their past history, since they've been
doing these big events, you know, damn well, they're going to put
on a hell of an undercard and the other thing is the rumor had been
and we don't know LA Coliseum, and so we don't know if the Los
Angeles Coliseum with the USC Trojans played football, and they've had the Olympics before.
I've had other events there. The Rams played there for a few years
till their stadium was ready. Don't know. One of the people I spoke
to about that, I asked that because that was sort of the rumor,
and I was told, and this is the person that's involved with the literal
paperwork, said that is not a done deal. The fight will be in
Los Angeles. The venue is not determined, so okay, so we'll see
whatever he's going to be in. There's plenty of places in LA, whether
it's the Colisseum or it's one of the arenas Crypto or Forum or you know
whatever. There's the important thing too with the Crypto dot Com arena is that
in July and August you're out of season for everything Lakers, Clippers, La
Kings that would have the arena because the playoffs are all over in the new
season hasn't started, so maybe it's one of those you're dealing with whatever it
might come there. A concert a right mention, you know whatever, we'll
find out soon enough with the press conference coming later this week on Wednesday in
New York for Terrence Crawford. That leads us, my friend, to the
nostalgia before we're done, and there's lots of it. I never tire of
talking about our first win. It was twenty three years ago as we released
this podcast Sunday, April twenty first, Sunday into Monday, Sunday night into
Monday on the recap that Hassim Rockmand became heavyweight champion with one punch and a
huge upset in South Africa over Lennox Lewis April twenty first, two thousand and
one. You and I have talked about this a couple of times, a
couple of different ways. But refresh because it was a shocker. It's the
second time you referenced the first time earlier in this pod when Oliver McCall knocked
out Lennox Lewis with essentially a punch, wobbled him in the second round,
the fight was stopped. Now Here we are a few years later and the
same thing happens again with boom from the rock. All right, nostalgic thoughts
from you real quick. Well, first of all, once you get past
the Buster Douglas upset of Mike Tyson, it definitely is one of the top
heavyweight upsets of all time, no doubt about it. You know, you're
talking about Lewis against against Rockman, You're talking about Joshua getting knocked up by
Andy Ruiz. Obviously you mentioned uh, you know, well, as I
called it. The big one, of course is Tyson McCall is a big
one. I don't know if it rises at the same level. And Lennox
was not on Spink speach Muhammad Ali. Correct, That's what I was thinking
of Ali and Spinks for sure, So it's on. It's on the level
like that. And the thing is that threw such chaos into the sport because
the the idea was after that fight, then there was gonna be a real
movement to make to Tyson versus Lennox Lewis fight, which obviously ended up happening
ultimately, but it got put off for a while while they went through all
the litigation and all the nonsense about forcing the rematch with the Rockman because Rockman
tried to back out of it and switch promoters and he signed with Don King
and turned down the HBO money and we could go cha. I mean,
I could talk about this for an hour, which we all have to boil
it down. Rockman was trying to fight Mike Tyson. He was trying not
to give Lewis the rematch. He was eventually trying to fight Mike Tyson instead,
and we've got the courts involved, exactly. Yeah, right, Lennox
Lewis. The bottom line it was Lennox Lewis took in the federal court and
he won. He didn't win. He could you can't force the man to
fight you. But what he won was the judge basically told Rockman you either
fight Rockan, you either fight the rematch that you signed for in the contract
with Lennox Lewis, or you must sit. I believe it was first sixteen
or eighteen months. And if Rockman sits eighteen months after that knockout, he
gets stripped of the title and you know, his career goes down the toilet
and there's no you no real way to make the money or follow up and
have the leverage that you did as your champion anyway. So but the main
thing was it was a thunderbolt of the right hand that just knocked him out.
And I've told the story before my greatest pick of all time in a
boxing match of picking Lenox to lose that fight, and the reason why is
because two weeks before and we were Invegas, I was covering Hassim. I
was covering a Nasim hahmt against Marco Antonio Barrera, and the MGM Grand Garden
Arena that was the host of that fight was also used as the backdrop for
the fight scenes that were filmed for the famous movie Oceans eleven, which he
happens during the boxing match. The boxing match was a mock fight between Lenox
Lewis and vitally clip between Lennox Lewis and Vladimir Klitchko. I had gone to
Vegas early to be on the set because I was doing a besides covering Barrera
and Ahmed. We sort of were trying to kill two birds with one stone.
The Clitchkos were there. They had not yet made their names in the
United States, so I was sent to cover and do a big piece of
that. It was really like the first big newspaper story about the Klitchico brothers
in the American media, So I had already done obviously, arrange as well
ahead of time. I basically spent an entire day with the Klitschko brothers.
Part of that day meant Rayfiel was on the set hanging out with Julia Roberts
and George Putting. Not really, I'm joking about that, but I saw
them anyway. But I was on the set with the clitch Goes and we
were in their trailer, and I watched the fight scenes, and I've got
my my movie prop credential for the fight that I still have that I have
hanging up in my office. Anyway, So the point is this, Lennox
Lewis was there filming Hollywood movie scenes two weeks or three weeks before he's supposed
to be fighting, you know, a heavyweight championship defense. Emmanuel Stewart,
the Great the Great Man was there with him and also wasn't really into the
fight either. But what put me over the edge on the pick was going
back to like go walk to meet up with the clitch Goes and their manager,
and you walk past like the little cafeteria area, and I was gonna
grab something to drink, and there was people hanging out and I see Lenox
Lewis sitting there eating like like a bag of dorito's. Basically, I'm like,
the man is not training for a boxing match, and so you know,
then then they are not focused. Continued, Okay, so now Saturday
morning of the Barrera versus Amid fight, they're having a press All the media
is there to cover the fight. So they have a press conference for Lennox,
Lewis and Rockman, and they had a dais and everything set up on
the concourse at the MGM, and they brought a big giant TV and they
had Rockman joined the press conference via satellite from South Africa, and I realized,
oh shit, Rockman's already been in South Africa for like three weeks already,
He's been training at six thousand feet. He just looks like he's in
unbelievable shape. He's talking a great game, and Lennox is looking a little
plump and eating doritos and filming a movie and his trainer doesn't seem to give
a shit, and I'm like, this is like classic, There's no fucking
a way he's gonna win this fight. He's not focused at all. He
wants to be a movie star, and Rockman is fighting for his life.
And at that point, I'm like, you know what, I think he's
gonna win. And sure enough, he didn't look good the first few rounds,
but then he landed the right hand and as you say, boom goes
a dynamite and out goes like Lewis. So but that when that happened,
I can still remember Rockman running around the ring, you know, screaming at
the top of his lungs. No more Lewis and Tyson. And what made
it so kind of a weird situation is because we're watching in the United States,
you know, at ten eleven o'clock at night as a live HBO broadcast,
So that was designed for American prime time, which meant the fight was
taking place at about five o'clock in the morning South Africa time. Now,
as a coincidence, one of my dearest friends in the world, Yep from
high school. She and her husband had relocated from the United States to do,
like, I don't know, a year or two assignment. They worked
for a pharmaceutical company and they were reassigned for this project. They were living
in South Africa in Johannesburg, and they had moved there probably about two or
three weeks prior to the fight, and I had been talking to one of
the managers for Hassim Rockman, who I was friendly with, so doing some
kind of story or whatever, and we were shooting the shit and he was
joking around about like how nobody is picking us. We're all by ourselves there.
He like, they gave us a bunch of tickets and we don't have
anybody to give them to. I guess that, you know, as part
of your contract, they got maybe like a dozen tickets or something like that.
He's like, ah, we got nobody. And he basically was like,
I mean, I think he was joking. He says, do you
know anybody that wants to go to the fight? So it's funny you say
that. You know, I have like very close friends of mine who just
moved and I never get involved with tickets. It's just not the right thing
to do. But they just had nothing to do with these tickets at all.
He's like, So I told him the story. I said, you
know, I'll have one of my best friends just moved with her husband to
South Africa, like literally last week. He's like, do they want to
go to the fight? And I didn't think they did because these are these
they're not fight fans either. They're free to fight fans. They're not even
sports fans, like they don't even basketball for like, as the old saying
goes, wouldn't a left hook from a fish hook. And I was like,
you know what I'm going to ask. So I got in touch with
my friend. I said, you know, let me run this by.
There's a heavyweight boxing championship fight that's going to take place at this casino that's
probably on the outskirts of where you're living. They lived in a very nice,
you know, kind of western area of Johannesburg. Said are you interested
to go? She's like, that might be a lot of fun. We've
never been to a sports thing before, we've never been to a fight.
Why not? So I explained to her, I said, listen, just
so you know, it's not going to be like at seven o'clock at night.
It's going to be at like four o'clock in the morning. It's like
that was even more enticing and interesting to them. So I got them hooked
up and they got two tickets and they went to the fight at this like
Carnival City was called this casino and on the outskirts of Johannesburg, and I
remember, uh, never forget this is. I'm sitting in my living room
or in my old townhouse in northern Virginia. I'm watching the fight and she
calls me from from her seat in the arena. The fight is going on.
While the fight is and I hear the noise in the background and I'm
like, what's going on. She's like, we're having a great time.
Who's winning? Like it's a score, like it's five to four, it's
you know, a touchdown, it's seven to zero. I'm like, no,
no, no, no, you have no idea was winning until they
either announced the scores or you see a guy get knocked out. So I
was like, did you say until you see a guy get knocked out?
Yes you did, Yes, I did. So now the fight ends and
obviously Lennox Lewis gets drilled and Rockman becomes the champion. It's like a whole
big thing. And so I know, a couple hours later, they're on
the way home and they called from the car and I'm like, trying,
like they had a wonderful time and it was very exciting and it was sort
of like a magic you've never been to that kind of event you see the
heavyweight title change hands. So I was trying to explain to her the historical
element of what she had just seen of the heavyweight title not only changing hands,
but in such a sort of an unusual atmosphere of being in the morning
in South Africa, and what it meant and how big of a historical situation
this was, and she just ate that up. Her husband had a great
time and it was like just a quirky little thing that is a coincidence of
a lifetime that they literally they never even got rid of their allotment of tickets.
I think they just had a bunch of tickets left over they couldn't do
anything with. So that was I have so many like crazy memories about that,
that whole thing. And then going to the office at USA today on
the Sunday because we've worked on Sunday because we didn't publish on the weekend,
but we worked for Sunday to publish for Monday of writing basically an extensive story
about all the stuff that had gone on and how Rockman was out of contract
with Cedra Kushner because he didn't give him the bonus in time before the fight,
but he tried to give it to him after the fight, and all
the machinations of now he's going to try to make this Mike Tyson fight.
What a wild wild time boxing, then wild time. And I continue to
say this because you we go around about this. I don't know of another
instance, because a year later Lennox Lewis got his title back with one punch
in the revenge fight. I don't know of another example. There's not one
in heavyweight boxing history of a champion losing by on a one punch knockout,
and in the very next fight for he and the new champ, he avenges
it with a one punch knockout, which is what Len. There's guys that
have regained it, but not on the one punch, not one punch KO
and then turn around with a one punch KO. Yeah, like both of
for both decisions. That's right. Andy Ruiz knocked out Joshua, but when
Joshua won it back, it was a decision. Yeah, you're right.
I mean I can't think of one punch KOs in heavyweight history or anywhere else.
Somebody else, somebody else that knows the nostalgia better than Ray Feel and
good luck come up with one punch and then avenge it with one punch in
the next fight for both fighters a year later. That's what happened. I
two more and then we got to go. It was twenty two years ago.
Then on Saturday this past weekend, April twentieth, that Floyd Mayweather defeated
Jose Luis Castillo. You talked about this fight recently, massively close. Many
many thought maybe he lost, and you even say here on the rundown is
probably really the only controversial decision, the most controversial decision of Floyd's career.
Give me a little more on Floyd Mayweather winning the WBC lightweight title fight with
Jose Luis Castillo. I mean, in terms of Floyd and controversy, I
mean, there are some people that thought that the first fight with Marcus Maydonna
was kind of controversial. I totally reject that that was only because people thought
it was close, because it's the first time they had seen in many,
many years a guy win maybe like four routes against Mayweather, so suddenly it's
controversial. I mean, it was a good competitive fight, but certainly Floyd
was the winner on that fight. But against Castillo, Look, I didn't
attend this fight. I was working for USA TAY, but I don't remember
why did oh I ended up watching this on television. Watching on TV,
I sported a draw one fourteen to one fourteen. I actually went and at
some point looked that up because I kept the record of some of the scores
I had for the major title fights. Castillo gave him hell that night,
man, that was a very close fight. Harold Letteriman on an HBO to
my recollection had Castillo winning the fight. A lot of people did. There's
the meme that I see all the time when the anniversary comes up, that
the copy box, you know, definitely favored Mayweather. Although that's not the
end. I'll be all to determine who was the winner of the fight,
but Floyd, even though he was moving up from one hundred and thirty pounds
division, where he'd been a long time champion, he was the favorite against
Castillo, who was at the time, or before he had become the champion,
was probably best known as being a sparring partner for Julio Cesar Chavez.
As a matter of fact, when he won the WBC lightweight title, he
did so in Los Angeles against Stevie Johnson, who was a consummate boxer,
and he went in there and he basically beat him down for that not you
know, not a not a knockout, but he just roughed him up and
just bullied him for twelve rounds. I was actually at that fight. Who
was my first ever fight in Los Angeles? Who was the more? It
was the afternoon of Deal La Joya Mayweather one outdoors in Los Angeles. As
a matter of fact, it holds the distinction of being the last fight ever
televised on the ABC network after all those wide world of sports years. So
he got that victory and started to make his reputation. You know, he
had the rematch with Stevie Johnson, kept the title and was a very formidable
guy, very strong as we know from all the great fights he was in.
And Floyd had a tough night that night, and so he got the
decision. He won a lightweight belt, and they had a rematch and he
Floyd won another close fight. But my recollection is that Harold Letterman, you
know, who everybody sort of trusted and that was one of the great judges
of all time, had that fight one fifteen to one eleven in favor of
Jose Luis Castillo. You know it was it was I often think to myself,
what if Castillo had gotten the decision and gave me whether the loss,
it might have changed the way the mentality that Floyd had of being much more
strategic when it came to picking his opponents, that maybe would have taken a
few more risks. That look, Floyd fought all the you know, the
top name. I think the people that quarrel with it is that they weren't
always at the right time. Yeah, you've got a Shane Mosey on your
on your resume, but it wasn't when Shane Wood has his best. You
know, You've got certain guys that were maybe not at their absolute peaker in
the wrong weight class, et cetera. And so I've often wondered to myself,
would things have been different had Floyd suffered the loss. He still could
have gone onto the kind of greatness he just wouldn't have finished his career fifty
and oh, but he still could have maybe had certain fights that people wanted
to see at the time. But so, you know, so so it
happens, he thought Castillo, he got the win, and we saw how
the rest of his career unfolded. All right, one more piece of nostalgia.
It's eleven years ago. Moving forward, it was eleven years later,
April twentieth, twenty thirteen, Canelo Alvarez won the unified junior middleweight world titles
WBCWBA belts with a win over Austin Trout. You were not there. You
do know the reason why you're not there, and you even shared this last
week. It had something to do with young Ray Peel. So let's get
to the fight for a second. We've seen the big, mega events that
Canelo Alvarez has taken part in over the last ten years since this fight.
If you take a look at the resume and the record of Canelo Alvarez,
this fight against Austin Trout was his first really big fight. And I say
really big fight because well a number one, it was a unification. But
even though Austin Trout was not like some big superstar, but he was a
very quality fighter. This was Austin Trout who was at the time undefeated.
He was a fighter that the Golden Boy hierarchy did not want Canelo to take
this fight. He insisted he was his own matchmaker. He took the fight.
Same thing he did when he fought Aristoni Lara. He took a real
gamble that night against Trout. A lot of people thought Trout would win the
fight, thought he'd be too much for him. And this was a mega
event. It was at the Alamodome. They drew like forty thousand people,
and it was the first time Canela fought that kind of a caliber, not
only in terms of the significance of the mout of the bout, but in
that type of arena and with that type of crowd, So it became a
very, very big deal. It turned out to be a pretty damn good
fight too. Canelo won the fight. It was competitive, He did knock
Trout down in round seven, and he did go on to win the unanimous
decision. He unified the WBC and the WBA titles at one hundred fifty four
pounds. In his next fight, he had the Monster fight against Mayweather.
Without the win over Trout, that Mayweather fight probably would not have happened.
And so that was again. He had fought some other quality fights and like
when he fought hoses Seed to Lopez before that, they did a big crowd
at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. He had fought Shane Mosey, who obviously
was past his prime, but that's a great name. You know. He
had fought, you know, another well known fighter named Cermin Centron that was
in Mexico. So he had fought guys. He had won the title against
Matthew, had a few fights before that and had been defending. But his
first really big event was the Trout fight on Showtime and in a big crowd,
big deal, and you say, Rayfield wasn't there. I was supposed
to go to the fight, but ended up not going to fight. But
as it turnout, that fight was on April twentieth, that was the original
date that my wife was due to give birth to our son. So obviously
I was not going to As much as I love Canelo, I love my
family more and so I was not going to miss the birth of my son
for that. Now, as it turnedout, my son was born a little
bit early, about a week before that. But the day that that fight
happened was the day that we came home from the hospital, or I think
it was actually the day after we came home with the hospital, And I
have this vivid memory of my wife, who's been through having a kid asleep,
and me in the afternoon that day, sitting on the couch in my
living room watching Tyson Fury in his American fight against Steve Cunningham at the Madison
Square Garden Theater. Get knocked down by Steve Cunningham, get up and win
the fight with my son in my arms. And then later that night,
you know, once again sitting watching Canelo Alvarez, you know, win the
fight against against Austin Trout again with a like a four day old baby,
like in my arms. Not known you were getting him ready early. I
think that was going to happen the rest of his youth and the rest of
his livelihood. So I explained to the people my boss at the ESPN Y
I could not attend that fight. They were cool, they understood, and
they sent my good buddy, and at the time my backup, I guess
was the great Kieren mulvaney, who went and covered in my place. Beautiful.
And now Canelo, who you just talked to recently, here's a tease
on this podcas cast feed you'll hear Dan with Canelo. Canelo ready to headline
against Timy Mongia here coming on May fourth. In a couple of weeks stand
by for that so great. I'm thinking about that. But when you said
that, it just made me think to myself, boy, because I'm pretty
sure I had an interview that was translated that I had with him before the
Trout fight. I think to myself, in all those years since he's been
at that level, like, how many interviews I've had with Canelo Alvarez?
Would you say more than twenty? Oh? Yeah, I would you say
more than thirty one? I mean, it depends on what counts. It
is like when you see him and you talk to him in the scrum,
is it once? I mean, I've had a lot of interviews with Canelo,
very very very many over the years, and he's been I have to
say this, He's been an absolute pleasure and a joy to cover in my
experience, and he still gets it and understands these things help the promotion of
the fight. And it's gotten better too because back then he didn't speak English
and so it became a little bit more complication to do the interview. I
mean you had to go through multiple translators. Then he got to the point
where you would speak in English and he would understand what you say. But
he didn't trink English back, so then they had to go through that translator,
and then it got to the point where he really you know, to
his credit and like a lot of the Spanish speaking fighters have worked hard on
their English as I like to joke with them and they because they sometimes they're
proud and they get embarrassed, like you know, there, I'm sorry,
my English is not that good. And my line is listen, you're in
You're You're English is a whole hell of a lot better than my Spanish.
Now. But Canelo, Now, when you interview Canalo, he basically speaks
perfecting. No problem. You can talk to him like a regular conversation,
no no issues at all, love all of this. Okay, very busy
show tons on Ryan Garcia's win and rightfully so, uh we were we were
uh wrong about that, but you know what everybody else was wrong about that.
Show me the people that were picking Ryan Garcia'll win. Uh so we
talked a lot about that. Gave you a little fight news, gave a
little nostalgia. Listen, my friend, it was a tremendous weekend. Great
stuff. And if the peeps enjoy it again, uh, if they enjoy
what we do make sure that you rate us, review us, follow and
subscribe on the podcast feed anything else. In closing, are we good?
Are we ready to have a good week? Have you already have a good
week? And then you know, we got we got not a huge busy
weekend coming up this week. But then I guess, uh it gets real
because uh, I'm gonna go out to Vegas for the Canela Mongia fight.
We're gonna have a big fight that weekend. We got a bunch of other
stuff coming up. A couple weeks after that, we got the Undisputed Heavyweight
Championship with Tyson Fury against Alexander Usik. Then we got what two weeks later,
you got the uh undisputed light Heavyweight Tedo with better BF and b BO
plus the five versus five, that outstanding card. And then we're gonna have
more because we're coming after that, not too far after, we're gonna have
the Tank Davis come back, you know, return to the ring with Benavidez.
I mean we were talking about, you know we got before Canelo,
we got our I guess right after Canelo, we got the in away fight.
You know he's back in action, that's right. Uh, there's a
lot of stuff going on. We got tons tons on the way. Follow
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