Let's go. Hey, we're doing another podcast. What the heck? Welcome
to podcast eighty four. This is the play Pants Podcast. That's Jason Ginzi
right there. If you're watching on the YouTube, I'm rod Ryan and uh.
We were off last week, but so we got a lot of catching
up to do. We got a lot of actually, we have a lot
of stuff to talk about. I almost feel a little overwhelmed of all the
things I want to get to. A couple of emails I want to get
to. You said that you had some stuff that you wanted to look at,
maybe some some comments from our YouTube channel. Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame just announced who's in, Who's out. Okay. I don't know why
I let my blood bubble on these things, but it happens. It's National
Parent Normal Day. I wanted to ask you a question about things that happened
in the French Quarter. I know you know a lot about that jazz Fest
first weekend. I didn't make it in I had the sick kids. So
we can talk a little bit about what you saw out there for jazz Fest.
And we're gonna talk Aerosmith today on the pod. And I don't think
we've ever really gotten into Aerosmith much, but the anniversary of and I've heard
people like Slash and some other musicians say that Aerosmith Rocks was the album that
kind of was a pivotal point in them going into direction that they went.
Specifically Slash, I know he has mentioned that album. But Aerosmith in nineteen
seventy six, on this day that we're recording May third, they released Rocks
where You Got Back in the Saddle. Last Child was off of that album
nineteen seventy six, So forty seven years, we'll talk Aerosmith in our Top
five Aerosmith songs. Jason, good to see him, Dude, I'm having
chips. Remember last episode we were talking about chips, So I'm like,
and I called it. You were the Dorito cool ranch guy. Well,
I don't normally eat chips, right, I thought, why not eat chips
during a podcast, because that's fucking smart. So anyway, jazz Fast people
come into town this week. A lot of people gonna be here doing some
crawl fishing. So the wife went out and started buying chips and they're never
in the house. Well, she just left a club Mexico and I'm like,
I don't give me some of them chips. I'm gonna get some chips.
You got people coming over. It's a license for your house to have
junk food in it. It's oh fucking great. As soon as somebody's come.
I want comfort foods for my guests, and you want to have that
stuff for them, even though if you don't get around to it, well,
you don't want to throw it away. You gotta use it up.
So how to eat that ship? Yeah, no, that it's it's fun
when that happens. But I tell you what, you get to a certain
age and man, your guts are wrecked. I'll have three chips. I'm
like, okay, tapping out because my guts are wrecked. Yeah, dude,
jazz Fest last weekend. That was weekend number one. Uh, it
wasn't. It didn't go as planned for a lot of people. Obviously you
had some some issues. But um, I went out Friday and Lizzo performed
on Friday, and I'm like, I don't give a fuck about Lizzo,
right, and I don't care. But then like we wanted around a little
bit and we went over. My wife was of course at Lizzo, jumping
up and down, and I got there and dude, I'm telling you man.
You know again, the way we always talk about good or bad music
is it's not that it's bad music, it's just may not be your style,
your type. Lizzo is an incredible performer. She owns the stage.
She's unbelievably cool on stage, talking to people in funniest shit can riff and
I'm like, damn, you know what, don't like your stuff, don't
like your music. But I felt better afterwards. You know. It was
one of those moments. I feel like she's pretty talented. But I mean
at the end of every song or the beginning of every song, was every
song for all the big girls out there? Does every single thing have to
be for the big girls? It's for the big girls. I'm a big
girl. I want to be I want to represent the big girls, and
I want you to know that big girls can get up here and this is
for the big girls. It's like, Okay, you're a big girl enough
already. Everything doesn't have to be it doesn't have to define you. Yeah,
it was. It was interesting. I had a couple of interesting conversations.
You know. It's like, look and we'll talk about it right here,
because who gives a shit is uh you know, I get it,
man, I'm all body positive. Look, I ain't no prize to look
at. Okay. I go in my pool and people are like, what
the fuck is wrong with you? Many who looked like you got thrown down
a hill or something. So like, I realize I am not exactly captain
handsome, you know what I mean. But I feel like there's there's there's
a pro side to her body image, right, big girls, cool man
ride that trade. But then it's like that ain't healthy. It ain't healthy.
It's setting the minute. Maybe it's setting a bad thing too. It's
a it's a fifty fifty split on that deal. And I want to be
careful because I want to get in trouble, to get fucking canceled or anything.
But it feels like, yeah, I'm a cool man, you're you're
a bit of overweight cool all good? You know. It's just it just
seems like I catch I guess I just catch sound bites of her. I
don't you know you watched an entire performance. I just assume that every song
she does, okay, and this one's going out to the big girls out
here, and then we're gonna do this song and then okay, well you
know, praise God, and this one's for the big girls. And then
here's my next song. It's like, okay, fucking we get it.
It's for the big girls. I just feel like the soundbites, the clips
that I see that sometimes I'm a product of my work environment. Listen my
company. iHeart loves Lizzo. There's shit on the TV all the time.
But I got it. Man, Okay, you've got the big girls covered.
You know you didn't hear Adele shouting out to the big girls before every
song of hers. It's just it's just when somebody is just one thing you
said it. I agree with you. I think she's super talented. She's
got Houston roots, so she's a big deal here. It's just and then
okay, she's a big girl. I get it, but I don't.
I don't need to hear about it NonStop. Just man, just go out
and beat you. You don't gotta like call out the big girls every time.
I mean, there was that element, but it wasn't every time.
And it was cool. And I tell you what, man, afterwards,
I was I felt, I was fired up. I was felt it was
very positive and uplifting and she's cool and she could sing her ass off,
and it's it's it's one of those things where had she not set her and
hammered on the big girl thing is And it wasn't every song, but when
she did it, that all washed away. I didn't think of her was
a big girl. After about two songs, I just saw a person up
there singing and having a great time, and I was it's like I went
to with the uh, the Mulan Rouge many years ago in Paris, right,
And of course Titty's right, it's old school, it's cabaret, it's
dancing, it's singing, it's it's this whole entertainment circus, right, But
after like five minutes of Titti's I didn't even think about it. It was
just the performance was cool, it was fun. It wasn't sensual in that
way it was it was just a performance, and like the same kind of
concept with her. After a couple of songs, I was just watching a
performer and enjoying the show. Built built for comfort, You old sailor,
you willed son of a bitch. You Oh. I wanted to get old
school and start pulling that cord on the top of the old motors, remember
those old ones in those boats pulling cord before wrap it around. My grandfather
had an old school boat like that. Yet, okay, I want to
do that. So yeah, anyway, and then Saturday at rain like a
biach, that's when I was supposed to be there. So everything, you
know, my kid wasn't feeling well. I got you know, I'm talking
to my ex and we're trying to figure this all out, and um,
I canceled my tickets because so my kids not well. She goes to the
She gets out of school early on Friday at the doctor and then boom him
on the phone with the kid, and I'm like, okay, listen,
listen, Okay, New Orleans is out, so forget it. Don't worry
about it. Let's not even play that you're not feeling well. You want
to stay with it was my weekend. You want to stay with mom or
you want to come with dad? She was, I want to come with
dad. Don't even think twice about it. You know that's that weird,
that weird unconditional love with your kid. Had she said she wanted to stay
with Mommy. Okay, then okay, I don't get my feelings hurt.
She's not feeling well, it's an hour and a half drive. She just
wants to stay put. Okay, sometimes little girls want their moms. And
I would have been fine, and then boom, I would have come in.
So she's like, no, I want to come to your house.
I said, okay, boom, get online, cancel the tickets, go
pick her up, hour and a half, hour and a half back,
and then boom. I'm with a sick kid. But it's it's it's your
kid. So it's not like, oh, you're bummed out. Of course
I wanted to be at jazz Fest, but you're not bummed out. I
mean, you know, it made me feel good that my kid wanted to
come see me still, so that was nice. But you're there just helping
your sick kid out all weekend, and you know, it's awesome. But
thinking and seeing some of the stuff that was happening on Saturday, even if
she wasn't really sick, and if she was just a little bit sick,
man out there in the rain Saturday was a nasty one. Huh. I
did want to ask you. I didn't want to ask you about Ed Sharon
though, because man We've been talking about him in the news a lot lately.
As the families. It's not just um, it's just it's it's not
Marvin Gay, it's whoever else was involved with writing the song. Let's get
it on. They're going after Ed Shearon right now for his song. I
don't know the name of it, but I'll be Loving You when I'm seventy
and it's a big wedding song. And he's in court every day now,
and he court wasn't in session over the weekend, so he came in in
New Orleans and then boom back into court. Did he talk about it at
all? Did he mentioned it on stage? He mentioned it very briefly in
between songs. He said, yeah, maybe I heard about it. I've
been kind of sitting there in court for the last week, so it feels
good to get stand it up and out here. You know. That was
it? He just okay, right on truck Man, I tell you what.
I didn't know that he mentioned it. Yeah, I don't don't know
much about Ed Sharon, but that's a Helvard performer. That dude. It's
him, that's it. Yeah, him, there's no band all him in
loops and I'm like, and he explained it right out of the game.
He played a song and he says, hey, listen, I want to
I want you to know what I'm doing up here. And he explained the
whole fucking thing. And then he started doing it and everyone's just going fuck.
And like the one time he fucked it up, He's like, oh
shit, I'm at the wrong speed. I sucked it up. So he's
sorry, and he just goes back, starts fresh, and he starts doing
it again. It's like nobody cared. He just owned it, man,
and it was again, not my bag of tricks. Awesome. He was
not not my proudest moment telling this story on this podcast. But Ed Sharon,
that's the second time he's played jazz Fest, Oh yeah, yeah,
a long time ago. He played it the first time he played jazz Fest.
And I talked about this because your daughter was there and I'm my goddaughter
and and we're hanging out and she's like, come on, uncle Rogie,
let's go. You know, she wanted to go see Ed sharing it.
I'm like, where the fuck is Ed Sharon? And I'm like, I
don't know who is this guy? Nobody gives a shit about Ed Sharon because
he was he was playing on like the Gentilly stage. And I said,
and I told your daughter, and I said, listen, all the milks
are gonna be over at bon Jovie. I gotta go watch bon Jovi.
Okay, I'm telling this to your daughter, my god daughter. I'm telling
her. The MILFs are gonna be on the other side of the track.
I need to be over here in this number. So that's when we kind
of split up. So she went to go see Ed Shearing and I went
to go see and I went to go hang out with all the milks,
which there were. I was right, I was spot on. There was
just a million mills at a bon Jovie show. But that was the that
was the first time that he had played, and that was my I told
that story. And I texted your daughter within the last couple of weeks and
I just, you know, hand to talk to you. Just check it
in, miss you. And then she goes, h yeah, we'll catch
up soon, you know. I listened to the podcast. I'm like,
ah shit, I'm like shit, I'm like that's not cool. I don't
think you need to hear all this. Yeah, it gets weird then,
right, you know, what I mean, like, that's one thing you
gotta keep in mind too, is like, what's what's great about these podcasts
is that Wow? Not much obviously, but like your daughter could go back
and listen to all this shit someday it's art. She's gonna be like,
no, God, my dad and my uncle were dip shits. No,
as soon as she gets of age, I'm just hitting I got everything set
up. One button, Pully, it's just the cleaner switch. Boom.
It just wipes out every dumb thing I've ever said on for the whole thing.
Man, that's actually not a bad idea. So I'm kind of open
ended. I mean, there's an outside chance. I look, there's still
some flights available my kids, not one hundred percent. I do have her
again this weekend, so we'll see what happens. Um. I wanted to
share with you an email, and not because of specifically what I wrote,
but I kind of wanted to get your take a little bit like this happens
to me all the time. Amber is uh is going to New Orleans?
Okay, she says, Uh, good evening, Rod husband and I are
venturing to New Orleans this weekend. The North Mississippi All Stars and then two
nights of Better than Ezra. Yep, Since that's your stopping grounds, what
are a few of your musts when you go back? Thanks for your suggestions,
and I hope you're having a great week. So that's Amber and her
dude. They're going into New Orleans. So I mean, I do I
get these emails all the time. So I said, all right, here
are my must have drinks. Amber, I said, you got to go
to the Napoleon House and get a Pim's cup. You gotta go to Molly's
on the Market and get a frozen ice coffee, Lafitte's Blacksmith's shop. You
got to get the Purple Voodoo. And I put in parentheses very strong.
I said, party, party after dark. The gold Mine is one of
my favorite places. Tell owner David Brinks. I said, hello, do
a flaming doctor pepper shot. And then the late night The Dungeon is my
favorite bar on Tulou Street, just off of Bourbon. Next thing, all
right, take the Pirate Tour. My friends own it Pirates of the Quarter
dot com, Pirates of the Quarter on ig and Facebook. Then I wrote,
if you go past the Quarter, down past the French Market, it's
a bit of a walk, but it's manageable. There's a whole another world
called Frenchman Street. You'll be amongst locals. You'll hear really amazing music till
the wee hours of the night. Everyone I have sent there has been amazed
and have had no idea that this area even existed in New Orleans. Most
people just hit Bourbon Street and I sent her a link to a Frenchman Street.
So, as a guy that lives there and basically roams around the quarter
every day, did I miss anything? As far as you know what I
mean? You could go on and on and on for hours, you know
about stuff to see and stuff to do. What would you tell her?
I would say, did I miss anything? Now? I mean, you're
you know what by going to those places, you're going to stop at places
in between and distill her own shit on your own You know, that's time
you get to French Street before you get to Frenchman Street. Oh well,
there's Rod just mentioned, there's you know, the defeats, the French Market
or whatever, you know things. So um, yeah, I get that
all the time, people wanting to hit some you know, hey, they
want to hear from somebody that's been there. You know what what what are
your favorite places to go to? Right? It's tough because you don't know
how many times they've been there. You know, if it's if it's the
first time, you just tell them the basic. The must dudes out of
the gate. You know, you gotta go to Jackson Square. You gotta
get a beigny a. You gotta go up by the river. You take
a paddle boat ride, you know, go to the feats, all the
places you mentioned. Yeah, that's that's your first time. Second time,
then you start digging in a little bit more, and then you do the
Frenchman streets and then you want to dig in a third time. You go
over to the Byewater where it gets that's like, you know, Bourbon Street
is you're you're you know, your your your candy bar. You know,
it's easy. It's solid cover songs mostly and it's just it's it's Bourbon Street.
And then you go to the Frenchman Street and it's brass bands and Latin
and shit. And then you go down to the Mirror or I'm sorry,
then you go over to uh, the Byewater and that's just that's just whole
other level of different bizarro. You know, the Saturn Bar and the Highhole
Lounge and all these little dirty dives and stuff, and that's just a whole
another animal. And then uptown is a whole another animal too, you know,
so you head up, head up Saint Charles. So there's other areas,
but you're right if somebody's just kind of going in for a weekend,
though. I feel like for me, I'm pretty good on my feet.
I want to walk everywhere and everything that I said, even getting down to
Frenchman Street. And this is for anybody that's listening that's thinking about going to
New Orleans Frenchman Street. Every time I've taken somebody there, they just go,
what the fuck? What is this? It's kind of like another Bourbon
Street. The difference, the big difference is that you gotta pay a cover.
Everywhere you go on Bourbon Street. Everywhere is free. They want you
to come in drink, drink, drink, drink, drink, drink,
drink specials. And there's, like you said, cover bands, karaoke,
that type of shit. If you want to go see like real bands,
great jazz and horn sections and things like that, you are gonna have to
pay a cover. And then you get your craft beers and stuff, and
it's gonna be a lot of locals. There's still a ton about of town
people there. But I remember, you know, that's kind of come around
in the last twenty years or so, and everybody is blown away and it's
still within walking that's for me, that's walking distance. I still like to
walk that. And that's the best part about like Fat Tuesday and Marty gard
Day. That's where we end up because that's where the chaos really is.
I mean Frenchman straight now. Yeah, that's where like the weird weird avant
Guard parade start and the little the little drum parties, Like everyone with the
drum shows up. There's one parade. Everyone's gonna fucking drum either a based
or a snare, and it's just everyone banging on shit and it's it's just
the most coolest area down there for Marty Grad and that's that's a locals thing.
And then they parade right into the quarter that it all falls apart.
But yeah, Fat Tuesday about eight o'clock in the morning, nine o'clock in
the morning down in the Marinie that's the spot, dude. Yeah, that's
where you want to go. So I mean, yes, there's a million
things. Look email us, man, I'll tell you where to go,
but you basically covered it. You know. I always tell people all the
time, what else do we do? If it looks cool, it probably
is. That's usually what I tell people. You know, I shouldn't.
I should have mentioned Dragos, great place, that oyster house for the oysters.
Yeah, all that good ship, dude, it's all fucking great.
And be honest with you. I tell people to skip act me because that
fucking line is ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah, the line is just way too
out of hand. And if for me it's still a walk, it's still
within a walk. I know. Sometimes I mean, chicks, if you're
wearing ass jackers, you're not gonna be able to walk to Frenchman Street.
You're not gonna be able to walk to um the Hilton where Dragos is.
But for me, I could walk that. I still I want to I
want to move. I want to be on my feet the whole time.
Um, you can walk, but Dragos is where you want to go and
get the oysters. So I'm going to add that onto that email really quick.
So obviously I told her, you know, to take the pirate tour.
Yeah, this is what I wanted to run by you. Today.
It's National Paranormal Day, so I don't know the exact definition of paranormal,
but we talked about it briefly on the air because I know Test is into
all this shit and dream catchers and saging rooms and bullshit. Okay, I'm
coming around a little bit on the UFO stuff. You're coming around a little
bit. I do feel like there are some things out there. I'm okay
with calling something a UFO. An unidentified flying object is a little fucking green
man in there driving around. I don't know. I don't think so I'm
coming around though. Maybe it's the guys in Blink within eighty two. They
got me. But when it comes to the ghosts stuff, okay, And
when it comes to people taking pictures and they use a flash and it catches,
it catches a piece of dust and people try calling that orbs and those
are spirits and all of that stuff. New Orleans is a great place for
those types of stories. And as a guy that owns Pirates of the Quarter
dot com, Jason's a very He's a history guy. He's a history buff.
And that's what kind of led him and his brother into this? And
and I've taken both types of tours. I'm promised I'm going somewhere with this.
You come at it in a fun way, but you're actually giving history.
You're you're giving things that really happened. You know, you hear me
do the commercial all the time, and these are the ways that you know,
the things that formed New Orleans and the reason why New Orleans is the
way that it is. And you know, and you do talk about Lafitte's
blacksmith shop. Well, you know, I don't think those guys live there.
But the ghost tours, there's these fantastic stories that are told and and
I know that people for years because your tour is relatively new in the quarter.
So with today being national or a normal day, a lot of people
will go to New Orleans and they say, I want to take a ghost
to her. You know, how do you approach that? Because I they're
telling stories and I'm sure from what I've gathered and then knowing you for as
long as I have, they grab a little piece of history. There may
have been a party, there may have been somebody that was being tortured up
in a in an attic somewhere, but you know, blood spilling and body
spilling out of doorways and down the street, and in the in the nunnery,
there's apparently a bunch of coffins up there, and they blessed the screws
and they screwed the door shut, and there's vampires up. They take a
little bit of history and they kind of like tack on these huge stories.
So where are you at with the ghost stories and the paranormal because you live
in one of the haunted, most haunted cities in America. So I'm told,
well, that's the fun part of it, you know. And people
will ask occasionally on the tour, they're like, hey, you see any
ghosts? And I go and here's my answer I give every time that question
is asked of me. Have you seen any ghosts? I said, I'm
a grown ass man. No, grow up, that's my answer, no,
because there aren't any. I've been in that I've been in the French
Quarter twenty six years now. I've been drunk out of my skull, I've
been stone cold sober. I've been in almost every fucking building in the French
Quarter. You know what, I've seen nothing, Not a goddamn thing.
Dude, there's no fucking ghosts, you know. Oh but dude, and
I'll get it, and we're gonna get hammered today, probably in the comment
section, which is cool, man. I you know, tell me,
you tell me your little story about how you saw a ghost or you were
in a hotel of the French Quarter and when you left or you went to
bed, the drawer was closed and in the morning it was opened, and
I'm like, yeah, that's a good one, That's one of my favorite
ones. But you realize these buildings in the French Quarter are old as fuck,
and there's not a straight you got a place? Is there a floor
that's straight? There isn't. Everything is at an angle. Shit opens.
Sorry, there's always going to be an explanation. There's no goddamn ghosts in
the French Quarter. They tell stories about vampires and I'm like, where the
fuck are they now? Where are they? Because I've done yet they were
around all I mean, you know, Interview with a Vampire and Brad Pitt
story telling and Rice she lived in New Orleans. I mean the stories that
she wrote, she wrote, you know, New Orleans was the backdrop of
these great stories and stuff, and it's great. It's I love all that
shit. I love and I love Interview with a Vampire, the series it
was just on AMC. I love that too, man. But again I'll
go back to I'm a grown ass man. You know what you get in
your head. You start thinking about stuff, then you start thinking you're seeing
shit, and then you're drinking, and of course you're gonna see shit.
My favorite one is when people hold their phones. Dude, look, there's
a dude back there. I go, do you fucking know anything about light
and dark in photography? Come on? Your tour is very different. It
absolutely ghost tours. And like I said, yours is relatively new ghost tours.
They probably have been doing them for forty years in New Orleans, right,
Oh totally. And those guys, look you you believe in ghost great,
I'm all for it. Go for it. Take the ghost tours because
a lot of those guys do a really fantastic job. They there, they
look the part, they act the part. There's a lot of really good
ones and and god love them, man, and they're great dudes. But
I don't I don't buy any of that shit. Do they run any kind
of a disclaim? I know, I don't remember I've taken a ghost tour
before. It's been twenty years. Do they run a disclaimer? Do they
just go right into it and say what you're about to hear? This is
it, man, this is what fucking happened. There's you know, Dracula's
right up there in that window. Well, what they do is they tell
you is what it really is a lot of times is they're gonna tell you
a story of a murder. Somebody got fucking killed at a party, like
you mentioned, right, someone hung themselves on a balcony. Those things are
all probably true because that shit happens all the time anywhere, right. Well,
then, of course, then then they twisted into you know, well
people have stayed there, have seen the little girl walking down the hall and
say, okay, that guy was fucked up on shrooms. You know,
It's like, no, you didn't see the little girl because a little girl
dead. That's not how this works, you know what I mean? And
then we always we always, I always explain it this way. Well,
because you talked about Lafitte's blacksmith's shop, right, that's a fucking the best
bar in the quarter as far as I'm concerned, especially day drinking. You
get in there, you get a table, sit down, chill out,
drink some of those purple drinks. It's fucking awesome. Don't say some of
those purple drinks. Drink one purple drink. It depends on how much of
a day you're gonna have. Don't drink more than one purple drink. But
I told her, yeah, the purple Voodoo it's very strong. It's a
right. It's one of my favorite bars that chill out it because it's just
got that look. It's build the seventeen seventies. It's old as fucking it's
awesome. But then it's like, you know, oh, the ghost of
this, ghost of that? And I'm like, look, I've done plenty
of ghost research over the years, and the research is this. I've seen
every episode of Scooby two thousands of times. The end of every episode.
What is it? It's an asshole in a mask. It's all the research
you need, bro, That's what it is. Okay, Oh up,
And I'm no, we're gonna get hammered on the ghost thing, but you
know what, go for it. You want to believe in that shit?
Great now, now, ghosts and all that horseshit. It's different than like
spirituality. You want to light some incense for Grandma or some shit like that,
or you're having conversations with a dead relative. That's you having a conversation
and you're you're doing that. That's great. I think that's awesome. If
that's how you're dealing with things in your life, I'm all for it.
But don't sit there in fucking stand on the street corner to tell me there's
a fucking ghost upstairs, because I'm not gonna fucking believe it. I mean,
the absolute best story is there is there's a there's a convent or a
nunnery in the back of the quarter convent. Yeah, and as Richard Simmons
grew up across the street. So on the tour they show you these windows
up at the very top and they got the shutters closed, and they tell
you that these Now, I listen, we've all known nuns over the time.
I don't know how agile they were back in the day, but apparently
there was a ship coming over here. It was bringing vampires. They're in
their coffins and everything, and the nuns flew into action. Okay, they
were just incredibly fit and nimble. They flew into action. They intercepted the
coffins, took them right upstairs, put them in that room up at the
top, and the priest blessed the screws, and they screwed everything shut.
And then apparently because of the separation of church and state, nobody can go
up there, and these vampires are up there. It's a fantastic story.
It's pastic story, and it's one that I tell if I'm walking with somebody
and I come across that. It's a it's an awesome story to tell,
and it kills every fucking time. I mean, when you're walking with somebody
by that covenant the nunnery, and you tell that story, they remember that
for the rest of their lives. But is it true. It's an Rice's
story, it's you know what I mean, Like, it's probably not true,
but it's just such an awesome story. So these ghost tours do that,
yeah, and it's okay. I'm not shooting at them. They do
a great job at that. It's storytelling. You're having drinks and you're getting
scared. Who doesn't love going on in houses and all that shit. It's
all it is, right. That story comes from Ann Rice's books. You
know Lestat was buried or in a coffin up there in the convent. It's
just been twisted around over the time, you know what I mean, and
you never notice how it's really convenient. How well there's a separation of church
and states, so you really can't go check. That's convenient storytelling right there,
dude. I've told this story too. I've told people like, like,
man, if you're really into ghosts and ship, here's what you're gonna
do. Go yanka tooth out tonight, throw it under your pillow, wake
up tomorrow morning and see what's going on under that pillow. It's the same
fucking thing. Sorry, kids, who or listen it is I'm not that's
that's very very soon in my future. Okay, Well, happy National Paranormal
Day everybody. And then wait, wait no, they always got those things,
those little fucking people, the ghostbusters shoes. There's dudes out there with
those things, the little fucking the lights up and ship. Oh oh,
I'm feeling it, man, I'm feeling Oh. It's it's cooler right here,
the temperatures two degrees cooler. I'm like, you're in the fucking French
quarter. It's all brick. Shit's gonna change temperatures around with a piece of
technology. There's a couple of dorks out there doing that, and that's what
that's what I've You've lost me. You want to tell great stories, that's
awesome, because the art of storytelling is a skill, but don't be fucking
Oh we got one, we got one? Oh did you feel that?
It just got cold? Like I just want to hit him with my fucking
sword? Do you? So you're I imagine there's a time when you're bringing
a tour of your pirate group, you're passing, You're you're crossing over ghost
tour people, right, yeah, yeah, the whole tour. I should
write a book just on the tour guide business because it's fucking wild man like
that. There's rules and shit you're supposed to follow, which most people do.
But every once in a while you get someone who's gonna be a dick.
And you know, I'm fucking dressed as a pirate and I'm carrying a
sword. I'm pretty much gonna own the moment, you know what I mean?
Right? And yeah, the ghost people just stare at me like,
whoa, that looks like fucking fun. As we go by and they're sitting
there hearing about you know, fucking ghost in some bedroom. You know,
So again, take the ghost tour when you come to New Orleans. That's
fine, you're gonna have fun. But that's what I'm up against. The
ghost tours are so world famous and we're a haunted city. What people don't
understand is that the fucking pirate influence is so much more important to everything New
Orleans. But you know what, let's go stand on the street corner and
fucking look at nothing. You slide? Is it? Poor formed? Can
you slide up some cards as you go and buy the ghost people? Yeah?
Man, look we're gonna we're gonna live and die in our own way,
and we would ever do that. Right. They're out there working just
as hard as anybody else. Jason Rock and Roll Hall of Fame announced Rage
is in. Sound Garden is not in. I thought that was a flip
of a coin. I'm good with it, you know. I think Sound
Garden will eventually get in. But Iron Maiden didn't make it in again.
And if that's the one thing that kind of got like my blood bubbling today,
the fact that fucking Iron Maiden didn't get in. It's I mean,
I've already, like I've already bitched and moaned about it, so I'm kind
of like over it. But why Judas Priest is in even though I think
they got one of those bullshit things like side deal. I'm kind of a
you know, like Randy Rhodes got in, you know, because of Tom
Morello. I don't know how ll cool J is in. Is he in
there as a regular rock and Roll Hall of Fame and ductee or is he
in there because he's you know, it feels very much like there's the adult
table in the kid's table, and like like Rendy Rhodes at the kid's table
at the rock Home, you know what I mean. It feels very much
like that. So I think maybe Judas Priests, maybe he got in that
way. I don't know. But George Michael got in with the most votes
from the fans, and then you know, he made it in. Willie
Nelson made it in on his first nomination. Kate Bush got in somehow,
which is such a bullshit, which such bullshit. It doesn't mean that it's
just it's not that I don't like her, it's just it's absolute bullshit.
Nobody can tell me a second another Kate Bush song. For God's sake,
somebody come at me with one more Kate Bush song. They can't, you
can't. And it's influenced. It's yeah, it's literally dumb. It's it's
weird. Chylus goes in, It's like, come on, you know,
I don't have a problem with that. She's a songwriter. I think she's
very well respected amongst her peers. I'm okay with Cheryl Crowe. I'm good
with it. I just don't I don't even get upset anymore. The thing
that really does upset me, and I'm absolutely creased about is Iron Maiden,
who still play around the world in at minimum arenas stadiums still and still play
some stadiums. Right, How can they not be in the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame because you have you have Black Sabbath. I mean, the
way the tree works for me is Black Sabbath is on top, and then
right after that, I think it's Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, and Zeppelin.
I mean, I really do put those three together, and then you
got Deep Purple and those other things. But I think right underneath Sabbath is
Iron Maiden. What am I How am I so wrong on this? Yeah,
I don't know what the deal is Iron Maiden, because they've got the
albums, they've got the touring, they've got the street cred, they've got
all of it. But you know, Motley Crue is in. You know,
No, Mally Crue is not in. You're right, Mala Crew is
not in. Def Leppard's in. Okay, yeah, you'll this is where
we started falling apart, and we said like, well, this band got
in before this band. Again. I've used this example many times when you
go to the fucking Louver, one of the biggest best museums on earth,
and you're like, standing is anyone standing there? Going well, I can't
believe they fucking put the Venus de Milo in here before the before the Mona
Lisa, fuck that, you know what I mean? Nobody cares. Ten
years down the road's gonna be up happy to go through the place and go
that's cool, you know what I mean. It's a museum. But we'd
be caught up in that argument all the time. They'll get in. Well,
what's interesting about the Rage Soundguard thing. There's all kinds of little fun,
funny, fumbling bullshit that goes around getting these people in. I wonder
if like Soundguard, like they said, hey, look, don't put us
in this year because they were still working out the legalities between the widow of
Chris Cornell and the band members. They had just got that taken care of
a couple of weeks ago, so there's gonna be Soundguard music coming out.
So I wonder if they just said, hey, wait until we get this
ship ironed out, then put us in, you know what I mean.
So that makes it a more touchy feely, huggy sort of event. We
don't know what goes on behind the scenes. No, no, no,
but here's I'll play into what you just said. The induction ceremony. The
guy that is the curator of that is one of the really high ups,
maybe the number three four guy for iHeartRadio, John Sykes. He's an old
MTV guy and stuff like that. The fact that Iron Maiden said, we
don't want it, we're not showing up, we're not categorized, we don't
blah, we don't we don't want to be put in a box. All
of that. This guy's ultimately, I say, this guy, John Sykes,
this iHeart guy, He's got to put together a television show, put
together an award show, you know, the Grammys has to be put together.
The Academy Awards has to be put together. That's his thing. He's
got to put that together. If he's got a band that's flat out saying
I'm not showing up, well then fuck you. I'm not putting you in
right, that should not play into it. They deserve. They have done
more than enough to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I
really do feel the fact that they won't show up for that fucking TV show
that is a major strike against them. Yeah, no, I agree.
I mean because you have to put that show together. That show has to
be interesting. That's why you see certain layers, you know. Okay,
rage against the machines in that's our hard, heavy rock this year. Okay,
we're done, we're good. We got it. We got our pop
tart you know, chicks, shell Crow, George Michael, pop artists.
Okay, we got that covered. We got a country guy. Oh,
Willie's in here. Let's get him in before he croaks. You know,
he's ninety good. It's like they check the boxes. Okay, we gotta
get one of these, one of these one of these, one of these.
Okay, we got a good show. It feels that way, you
know, it's what it ends up being. That's okay. Yeah, when
I think about it, it makes me sick. If I don't think about
it, then okay, boom, I'm not gonna lose any sleep. I'm
gonna sleep. I'm gonna sleep just fine tonight. But it's amazing that after
all these years, that rock and roll Hall of fame still gets me upset.
It still gets me upset even when okay, good, rage, okay,
great. I kind of an idea. I mean, Tom Morello seems
to be really really involved these days, and I know he's back in the
he's in that back room with the nerds, and he's the only reason because
of his influence, he's the only He's the guy that got Randy Rhodes,
you know, even for them to even talk about him. So, you
know, you got a bunch of guys back to that fucking worship Roxy music,
and then you got Tom MORRELLO. So, uh, what Voe came
here? He is that a bark? Well, yeah, that's about the
butt came here. Vo comes everybody on the podcast. Man, Holy shit,
it's probably your dog, dude. Oh yeah, No, she hasn't
had a full bark in over. Yeah, she's gonna have to. Actually,
I'm not upset about it. I'm not upset about having a three quarters
of a three quarter bark. I gotta let her out. She's yeah,
got hang on, we didn't, so we don't got to go much further
on this Rock and Roll Hall of Fame thing. I'm almost sick of hearing
myself talk about it. To be honest with you, it's uh and I
said again this morning, Come on, just Garth Brooks. I will be
upset if Garth Brooks is not nominated next year. Dolly Willie and I get
it. You still got to take care of some of these. There's the
older guys. You know, you might need to go back and get fucking
you know. I don't know Merle Haggard, Merle Haggard and Tubs somebody with
the last name of Tubs. Um, you have to get him in there.
But Garth Brooks so a fucking rock star man, you know, put
in No, it's fine, I mean, you know whatever, I'll watch
I'll watch the Rage against the Machine Induction. I'll be like, okay,
cool, I'll see what they do with with George Michael. That'll be interesting,
you know, but yeah, whatever, who gives a shit? Right?
I want to bring something up from last last episode. We talked about
Stained m and we talked about Greta Van Fleet and how you you know,
their new song came out, which is a great song, but yet it's
not gonna get much radio airplay, and it's not it's barely getting any radio
airplay around the country. I check this morning, nobody's playing that song really,
and they're not. And you brought up how you know, maybe maybe
uh, maybe gret band Fleet don't give a shit because they can make enough
money through touring and TikTok and all the other shit and downloads and vinyl sales
and all that merchandise. But that's good enough for them, right. That
was kind of the gist of your comment. And I'm like, yeah,
that maybe some bands don't need to be on the radio to to you know,
they don't care. They got their own thing going on and they don't
have to worry about right, right. So a guy who who actually listens
into the podcast chimes and occasionally is Richard lundie H. He said, hey,
look there's a lot of good rock bands putting out good music, but
y'all will never play them unless they got a million dollars backing them. He's
talking about you and I and our radio stations, right, Yeah. A
perfect example is Lit band, the band Lit. You know, uh,
their last CD was ridiculous, yet no airplay. That's why bands like Greta
van Fleet do what they do and they're happy. Now he's got some interesting
points in there. Um, I didn't hear the last album, so I
couldn't speak on that. His point about, hey, some bands just want
to do that, I'm I'm with you. I think I think there's a
plenty of bands and don't give a shit about radio, but paying us millions
of dollars that doesn't happen. Okay. I want to make it clear,
and you've made it clear many times the podcast it we have bands don't pay
us anything, if anything else the radio station when you play it, those
every time it's played, it's called a spin. Those spins get added up
and then quarterly radio rights checks to the artists who play on the radio.
So it's actually backwards. You know, we don't pay bands don't pay us
to get on the radio. All right. They just know. It's not
how it works. It's it's it's record labels who'll say, hey, here's
a band we're pushing right now, here's a new song. Do you like
it or not? Does it fit your radio station or not? They talked
to Radio Wizard in Houston. They talk to me, and they talk to
program directors all around the country, and we go, yeah, that fits
our station, we'll play it, or no, that doesn't fit where we're
trying to accomplish with our stations, so we won't play. That's pretty much
how the game works. So with a band like Lit, I'm just going
to guess because I don't know. I really don't know, but I'm guessing
that Lit does not have any backing from a major record labels. I didn't
hear about it. I'm guessing that Lit put out an album and they have
a certain amount of fans, and they put something out and their fans bought
it, and this guy likes it. But it's Lit and they're fucking street
team working it, working it. Meaning if you do have major label backing,
and let's say you they were on OURCA back in the day, our
SA has got some juice and they have a team of salespeople, record people
that will go out and they will go out and promote it and push a
guy like Jason and push a guy like the Radio Wizard. Hey man,
we got this. This is really good man. You should take a listen.
You should take a listen. Lit's not at that level where they have
people working for them. So Lit is just like the other millions of bands
that are floating around on YouTube right now. The difference is they did have
a hit and there's some name recognition there, but other than that, they're
no better off than fucking Richard Cheese that's you know, putting out his own
CDs and and other artists. So it's it's on them, you know.
I just don't think they have a record deal. No, and you don't.
You don't have to have a record deal. But it's just how do
you expect us to go and find all this stuff? You know? That's
what That's what having a major label on your side will do. They will
go out and they've got salespeople to go out and push it and get it
in front of people and get it out there and do the different things that
need to be done for promoting the new album. It's on LIT to promote
it themselves. And man, let me tell you, those songs are gonna
be fucking amazing, you know, if they're gonna get play. Yeah,
well, I know there's just a lot of bands like that. Stabbing Westward
just played here, remember them? Oh yeah, yeah, what do I
have to do? Yeah yeah, a couple of really really great songs,
you know, and the singers dealing with some personal things. He had some
health issues and stuff, and they're putting off their own stuff right now,
and they're working on trying to do some sort of a comeback type thing.
And yeah, it's just there's a million of those out there right now.
There's a million of those. Most bands. I didn't even know Crazy Town
was still together until I saw the fucking lead singer and a guitar player get
into a fight on TMZ last week. It's like, I imagine those guys
are probably still trying to bang out new music, you know. Um,
but yeah, we don't accept money and songs, and that doesn't Lit does
not have to pay to be on the air. No. The problem you
have though, with like a band like Lit, maybe the album is good,
Um, I don't know, but you know, there's a lot of
noise. So what happens is these record labels they get access to us,
the program directors and other people in the industry. You know, LIT doesn't
have that person ringing my phone sending me emails. Hey. You know,
they just don't have the people to help. That takes a lot of people
to put these things together and get in front of people. You know,
you gotta let me know what's out there and then I'll go listen to it,
and then I listen. You know, don't just start emailing me links
to fucking songs. Okay, that's not really gonna help me either, Like
I don't there's not enough time in the day to listen to all the music
that's out there. You just don't have time. So that's why these major
labels get shit in front of you. And now occasionally there's these weird little
bands that will get a weird song that sneaks through, like the band Giovanni
and the Hired Guns. You know that song they had out of the last
summer, Ramona Yala or whatever it's called. Song came out of nowhere.
I mean, yeah, they're on a label, but it like it got
it took forever and ever and ever, and it just sort of inched its
way up and then people started taking notice of it, and then a label
got involved more and then they push it out. That is such a rare
occurrence, you know, and it kind of came out of Texas because it's
a Texas band, I believe. So it shows you that, but it
shows you that it still can't and happen, you know, like it still
can't happen for a band, and a band can that can still a rock
band, you know, can still be discovered and you know, you don't
have to be on American Idol. You can still put stuff out there and
try to get noticed. It's just, you know, the music industry has
never been easy, you know. It's it's always been incredibly hard. And
for every band that makes it, there's a million that don't. And nothing
has changed. Nothing has changed, No, not really. I think what's
good about it now? Though, Like you say, you've got a band
you love from the you know, early nineties that have just not had the
success. They haven't been back on the radio, like like litt for this
guy right, he likes the band great. Well, they can keep putting
out albums every few years and their fan base who's probably connected to them through
Facebook or whatever. If it pops up on Facebook, you're like, oh
shit, they got a new album out. Cool boom, Okay, maybe
you buy it, maybe you download a couple of songs. A band could
probably sustain a life with that, with touring and hitting the you know,
the small sheds and the small clubs around the country. You could do it.
You could make money doing that, you know, you could. I
don't know if I'd want to do it, but hey, if you want
to do it that way, you can bang it out. Told. Most
of those hair metal bands are still playing, still putting stuff out, don't
have a record deal. They're on the Monsters of Rock, Creuse, Faster,
Pussycat and Fucking Bang Tango and Tora Torah and whatever. You know,
Steel Hard, anybody that had one song, you know, some hair metal
song, they're still playing and they're probably still recording new stuff, you know,
I mean all the way up until Docking. You know, they're probably
still putting music out there. George Lynch is always putting shit out, you
know it. It doesn't mean that it needs to be on the radio.
It's just they built a fan base back in the day, and you know
what, they still go out and they tour and they still put shit out
for their fans, and it's great where lits at and you know lit they
had a couple of hits, so they probably can make a living. You
know, like, I don't know if they have dajobs. Well you've got
if you've got that hit, you know, um that that's gonna get thrown
into a movie or TV show every once in a while. That's where you
make your bank. That can that can carry along for a while. You
go do some shows, you tour, you got your merch you know what,
if you build enough fan base and your work, I'm sure they're fine.
I'm sure they're fine. But that's that's still kind of rare too.
Do you even get to that level of success, you know, yeah,
money, most of the guys that we all fell into the trappings of kind
of somewhat worshiping back in the day, these guys are not gonna be on
cribs. They're just not. Um. You know. There's of course,
you know, you mentioned def Leppard and you know Bond. Everybody knows bon
Jovi's like so insanely rich. He wants to buy a football team rich.
He's you know, he's in there in that billionaire area. Um. But
man, it's just these guys that we we we looked up to. You
go and look at them, and you know, I don't know how if
you out some songs and you own the publishing of them and that sort of
thing. But you know, me, as the drummer of my band,
I thank god every day we didn't get signed, and I didn't go that
direction because I'd beyond that fucking monsters of rock cruise, playing my one song
and you know, and then going back to my mom's basement. Yeah,
yeah, no, probably, you're right, You're right. I thank god
that I quit when I did, and I and I didn't go out to
Los Angeles, and you know, I just I my friend Mark hates when
I talk like that. I'm I'm so glad we didn't get signed by a
record label. I I just because it worked out. You know, I
wouldn't be where I am, And thank god I got out when I did.
But that's the thing that we were. We were too late. Nirvana
already hit. We weren't doing that. It wasn't going to happen for us,
you know, I was just gonna go out to La and struggle.
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean that that, but but I just
wanted to make sure we made it clear that we're not getting checks written to
us. Yes to play music. It's just in fact, it's quite illegal
nowadays, after what's his name Spitzer in New York years ago, sign all
those rules and stuff, and you got to sign so much paperwork when you
work in radio. Oh, it's gross. It's gross. Not the old
days when they bring in blow and horrors and corvettes and you can play music.
Man, I'm like, we missed it by about ten years. Man.
I used to hear we hear stories all the time. Yeah, man,
you want to play this song? No, it's piece of shit.
Open up a briefcase. There's a ride. Go for a ride. Oh
dude, you know you're spending it like ninety times. That's how you got
songs on the radio back in the day. Man, you can't do that.
Go for a ride. You come in with a brand new Warner Brothers
jacket, and then all of a sudden the songs being played on the air.
Okay, amazing how it used to work. Well, Errol Smith was
able to do it the old school way. I'm sure Blow was involved though,
well blow Jesus Christ, everything was involved. I mean they called those
two the Toxic Twins for a while. Yeah, I mean that's Aerosmith is
such a it's such a unique story with them. I really cannot I cannot
put anybody in the same category. There's been bands that have gone into a
lull and had a comeback, nothing to the magnitude of Aerosmith. They were
fucking done. They were completely done zo. They were a huge band in
the seventies, and then Boom Drugs took over Perry Leaves the band. They
put out Rock and a Hard Place. Then they put out the shittiest record
ever done with Mirrors, and then nineteen eighty seven hits and they just agree
that, Okay, number one, we gotta get cleaned up. Number two,
we got to have somebody helped write some songs for us, okay,
because we're just these seventies fucking fossil guys. Man. We need Desmond Child,
we need this, we need this. And then Permanent Vacation hits in
nineteen eighty seven, and it's the biggest fucking comeback in the history of rock.
Can you even think of somebody that comes close you really, you look
at bands, people don't realize that back in the day, like Kiss,
their first three albums, nothing was happening. Nothing was happening with Kiss.
As a matter of fact, they might have broken up had they not put
out that a live record. That's what radio stations grabbed it, and they
started playing the live version of probably rock and Roll all night, and then
all of a sudden it happened for them. Bruce Springsteen put out a couple
of albums. Not a whole lot was happening until Born to Run hits,
But Aerosmith was big and then they went away, meaning it's just they just
were falling apart, and then they had the biggest comeback ever. Well,
part of the comeback was the run DMC thing with Walk this Way. Yes,
that's what really twisted them in. What was interesting about that is that
neither parties wanted to do it. Nobody Aerosmith was like, are you fucking
nuts? Absolutely not, and the guys would run MC were like, are
you fucking nuts? Absolutely not. Neither party wanted to do it. I
believe it was Rick Rubin to put it together right. It was, uh,
he had to you know, work his sage magic and do all that
shit and guru stuff and get them together and do it, and then it
just blew up both of their careers and that's where their train started to roll.
He did not to use it. Yeah, you didn't. You're not
crying, are you? So Hey? I want to bring this up before
we dive into our top five favorite Aerosmith tunes. Um, we've talked often
about a bio pick, what band would make it. I don't think we
ever mentioned Aerosmith. Aerosmith is ripe for the picking. There is so much
shit, so much drama, so much everything with it. And then comeback,
Man, it would be like they come You know, there's would be
different because you would have that We started as kids in Boston playing in gymnasiums,
and then we blew up to the top, and then we fucked it
up and then we fell apart and then we came back and the rap thing
with the run DMC. It could be a fucking great story some of the
stuff that's coming out right now, and specifically with Steven Tyler and having that
fucking fourteen year old girlfriend and you know, going all fucking Jerry Lee Lewis
back in the day. People have receipts. And you know, I touched
upon it briefly on the air. I said, man, your heroes in
the fucking seventies got away with some shit. You know, Jerry Lee Lewis
wasn't the only fucking creep out there, you know, I mean even even
Elvis the Priscilla thing. You go look at the ages when they met.
Go look at the ages when he met her. I'm not saying they did
anything. And apparently they waited and all this bullshit. I don't believe it.
You know, we have a history of just kind of like skirting these
things because there are heroes. But Jimmy Page, those guys did some fucked
up ship back in the day. And he had a little fucking baby girlfriend
and there they are getting the Medal of Freedom from you know, President Obama.
I know, it's so those guys, it's a fucked up shit,
man. They're jamming a fish in a chick. So anyway, mud shark,
there's there's there's a story that Steven Tyler had a girlfriend and the parents
signed her over to him, and he admits this. He said, it's
not like you think the parents signed her over he was her guardian and boyfriend.
Fucking weird. So that's I mean, the seventies were a little different,
man. People were getting married much younger back then, I know,
But now people want answers, and I you know, we're in that.
I'm not even chalking this up to cancel culture. I just think people are
finding out about this guy that they've always known. I mean, at one
point he was a judge on American Idol. That's American Everybody's living room man.
Yeah, yeah, so that's that's the thing. What do you mean
he had a fourteen year old girl friend and what do you mean is the
parents signed her over to him. That stuff is happening right now. You
know, Steven Tyler is dealing with that right now. Yeah, that's that's
That's the only one, you know. I mean, what the fuck was
going on with Michael Jackson? You know again, right, it's it's it's
a whole nother discussion. I don't know if that would stop the Aerosmith biopick
from moving forward, Yeah, I don't know. It didn't stop Michael Jackson
stories from being made, so yeah, I don't know. But my top
two contenders I think would be because we know that there's gonna be a dumb
kiss movie being made for Netflix, so that's already out of it. That's
out of the question. It's not going to be a big theatrical release.
Um Aerosmith and I really think the front runner has to be right now,
has to be Fleetwood Mac because of Daisy Jones, because of the success of
that. And know it's not like that was on the tip of everybody's tongue,
but it was so good that I think. I look at a guy
like Alex on my show who watched Daisy Jones is his girlfriend got him to
watch it, and then he realized how much he got into it, and
then he's seeing the parallels. He's like, Wow, I didn't know all
this stuff about Fleetwood Mac. It's like, why did this really happened?
They really stood up there and they sang songs about each other and breaking up,
and they this guy forced her to sing this and him to sing this.
I said, yeah, I said, that's a fucking movie. He's
like, yes, that, I want that to be a movie. Yeah.
I think Fleetwood Mac would be great. I really do think that's the
movie. What if you did a thing? And again we're getting off of
the fucking weeds again. But our podcast, what if you did a thing
where like, because there's a lot of interconnected shit in that seventies vibe right
there. You had the Eagles, you had Fleetwood Mac, and there was
a little that was that you could almost do a movie on that whole scene,
because the Eagles were a fucking disaster as well in a different way Fleetwood
Mac. You could almost go and put us all this shit together and have
it all culminate to like some big festival, you know, like actually,
you know, would be kind of a cool fucking movie, and you'd almost
have to fake it in a way, as the US Festival in eighty three,
you know, that's where Van Halen played. It was like one hundred
thousand people, and it was put on by what Steve Wozniak from Apple or
whatever the fuck it was. You could almost make a fake one of that,
like they do with Daisy Jones and the Six and have all these bands
and tell their stories about getting to this final concert and all the conflicts and
all the bullshit, beause they all have their fucking Every day you go to
work is a fucking chore. I don't want to say in you specifically,
I'm saying in general anybody, there's always drama. There's that asshole that fucking
cooks fish for lunch in the microwave. There's you know, the guy that
always forgets his tools on the job, or whatever the case. I mean,
bands are even worse because you've got all these creative, fucking people,
a lot of egos involved at drugs and booze. Every band is fucked up
in a lot of different ways. It's just the way it is. Fleetwood
Mac would be cool. I just to get the sign off of the bands,
then the you know, the business aspect of it and the music,
and it's hard enough just to get one band right to get on the same
page. And then you're you're trying to bring together like let's just say you
even focused on five bands, four bands. What a fucking nightmare to try
to get all those camps to agree to all of this stuff. Now you're
doing something that's gonna be unauthorized and you're not gonna get anybody. And Don
Henley is gonna say fuck you because we deserve our own movie and because,
believe me, he would be a dick. So you're not gonna get you're
not gonna get people signing off on that ship. They just won't. They
won't, right, right, No, I agree, but a kind of
a neat thing to see happen. And if you can't put all these you
know, if you can't do a one off. But you're right, there's
so much fucking bullshit, all the rights to all the music and all you
know, and then of course, you know, what are they gonna want
to show. They want to show Stevie Nicks do it a blow for an
hour and a half of the movie. You know, she get that right
out of dude's assholes. I think. Yeah, those great stories about her,
what a great girl. I like her, and Fanny holes dude love
it. That's gross. Let's never forget who's listening to this po podcast or
who potentially will live listen to this podcast. Okay, you know what you
know? Hot take Christine mcveee was hotter or Christine McGee she was hotter.
There was something about her, there was something always hotter. Was she English?
Was she milfy? She was always Milfye the something that was? I
don't I thought she was hotter than Stevie Knicks. Yeah, Stevie Nicks was
the show boat and just all up front constantly all the time with the scarves
and dance and twirling around and ship, which was fine. It was great
for the band. It was cool and she did it. But yeah,
Christie mcveee was over there v behind the fucking keyboard, just banging away.
Yeah, I think that's where I go first. You know, you know
that you don't want to go Stevie Wolf, tie a fucking board to your
back. Remember who's listening. She's whish. I wouldn't have done that piece
of information, all right, Um, take the pirates to her. All
right, let's do our fucking top five arrows. There's a commercial Pirates of
the Quarter dot com. Thanks for joining us in New Orleans. So do
you agree that there's two Aerosmiths. There's Aerosmith seventies and then there's Aerosmith Dude
looks like a lady moving forward right, Yeah, permanent, permanent vacation for
it. And in fact, what I was going to bring up is the
fact that I didn't know I came into Aerosmith and I was the second half
Aerosmith guy. I had to go back and listen to older shit later,
Like I had heard dream on and and that kind of ship. But yeah,
that was all like old to me. The new Erosmith was cool.
I bought Permanent Vacation on cassette set when it came out in eighty eighty seven.
I believe, yeah, I had, I bought it. It was
fucking awesome. I love that album, but that was my Aerosmith, you
know. I went from there, and then I had to go backwards in
time. The video is the Daughter and Alicia Silverstone and there. Yes,
um, yeah, that that Aerosmith is was silly to me. Yeah,
dude, Dude looks like a Lady was not one of my favorite songs.
I think part of the problem with that is we've talked about this before,
is that, you know, classic rock. I played that song a trillion
fucking times plus. I just that Janey's Got a Gun. I hated those
songs. I never liked them, never liked but that version of Aerosmith,
that was really our Aerosmith. That's our band. Then you know, eighty
seven, I'm graduating high school. This it's the biggest album, and I
think it's silly. I find dude looks like a Lady in love it an
elevator. I find those like goofball songs they are. It brought him because
of MTV and all of that stuff, and it made them so unbelievably huge,
and I went to go see him on those tours that and Pump.
But then I started to get into some of the older stuff and my sister
kind of introduced me to them too, because that's gonna play into my top
five list because I'm gonna have I'm gonna have like a weirdo song on there.
But yeah, everything that I love about Aerosmith because I was in a
band, you know, dan in uh Scott. They're a little bit older
than me, and they worshiped. They worshiped, and that influenced the sound
of our band back in the day. And that's how I started to get
into them because they were so into them. So I had to do this
deep dive because I like, what are you guys going for here? And
then boom, I started listening to a ton of Aerosmith and uh, never
my favorite band, but always, you know. And they were called like
the poor Man's Rolling Stones, and they they they're they're a great American band.
You know, they're one of our greatest American bands of all time.
Absolutely top five American band of all time, right yeah, oh absolutely,
No. Aerosmith is is absolutely And tell you why you want to see a
great live band, dude, I've seen him like four or five times.
They do not disappoint live. Holy I mean you are? They good in
no particular order. Beach Boys, Mettall like a Eagles, Aerosmith, and
then you know, you go, you take the fifth one. I don't
care, but I think those four you can put Fleetwood Mack in there.
Right. American band, I mean, these are not my favorite bands.
These are American bands. I'd say they're you know, I mean, do
you throw? I mean kiss has got the you know, kisses an American
band. There's doesn't get more American over the top than that, you know,
right, So, I don't know, but the importance of Aerosmith,
There's just no question at all that they are. They are absolute royalty when
it comes to American rock bands, right absolutely, Um top five. I
you spent a lot of years in classic rock, so I imagine you got
burned out on some of this stuff. I did. I got burned out
on a lot of it. Man. It's like, god, damn it
really love it an elevator. I seriously, you know, it's goofy it
dude looks like a lady. You're right, it was just it always was
goofy to me. I'm like, really, dude looks like a lady.
That's what we came up with. I mean, there's no doubt that Steven
Tyler is clever, but his lyrics they're kind of dad jokey to me.
Like the song Pink and stuff, it's terrible. He's a word smith and
he puts things together, but it's almost embarrassingly dad bad to me, some
of the stuff that the words that he puts together. And I mean,
Joe Perry is a god and and and and Tyler is one of the greatest
frontmen of all time. But there is something hokey about the second half of
their career to me, Yeah, a lot of it was weird. And
uh, you know, this is what I'm not comparing the two of course,
but like that's what got Nickel back into trouble. Chad Kroeger, you
know, the first album, you know, he would write like the heavy
song, he'd write the cool ballad, the hint, and then he'd have
that goofy song and occasionally those would come across on the radio. You know,
rock Star is a goofy song, right, yep and uh, And
they kept doing that formula and the goofy songs if you were like, well,
fuck you, it's dad jokey and then and actually Aerosmith got away with
it because it was before all that, you know what I mean. But
yeah, I'm a sucker for all the later stuff though. I like all
the hits. Man, I like that, Okay, I like that shit.
Well, I think our lists are gonna be very, very different,
so I can't wait to hear what you got here. I'll go first,
top five favorite Aerosmith songs. Actually, I go way old school, back
to nineteen seventy seven from their Draw the Line album Kings and Queens fucking great
smile and I don't know why, but that doesn't get radio airplay. But
I just discovered it when I was doing a deep dive on Aerosmith years ago
and just fell in love with that too, man, Kings and Queens,
awesome fucking song. You gotta go to nineteen eighty nine at number four from
their pump album What It Takes was massive. I was in eleventh grade chugging
beers from a Keg and that album was cranked up. So again, music
makes memories. So yeah, that's what's on. What it takes, What
It's sticks, What it takes, very ballad e ish, and it just
kind of rolls and rolls and rolls. A good song. Number that's five
four three, number three from Get a Grip nineteen ninety three and Don't Only
Forget to Bring Up nineteen ninety three Get a Grip the song crying, I
know, cheese fucking, but man, is it a hit. It's a
great song. And the video how do you go wrong? I mean,
you know, ninety three I'm twenty two and Alicia's Silverstone and Live Tyler run
around in the video. Yeah, I'm okay with it. I wasn't mad
about that. That was number three, number two, I go Old school
Toys in the attic Sweet Emotion. I still dig that tune. Man,
there's something very cool the way it starts off real slow and just kind of
builds, And there's something very cool about this I think was that what was
used and it's been using a lot of movies, so it's definitely in dased
and confused days and confused. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's one
hundred percent in there. And it's also in Armageddon when they're training and they
go into the pool. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, and you got them,
you know. So they're they're learning how to the floating and stuff.
So they're here at at Johnson Space Center in they're in the pool and I
think Sweet Emotion is playing. Sonically it's a fucking brilliant song. I mean
beautiful. It's just the sonics of it. It's just it's it's a perfect
song. And you gotta think about the year seventy five. It just it
sounds great for nineteen seventy five and then number one of my favorite song at
least today, Living on the Edge from Get a Grip nineteen ninety three.
I was always, uh, I was always into that drum section near the
end where it goes it just drops down. It's like, apparently, through
my extensive research on this podcast, Steven Tyler confessed to stealing the drum from
his high school. It was a big bass drum from his high school that
he had stolen years ago, and it was like, let's use this and
it's just a great sound. Yeah, it's a great fucking sound on that
big drum. So yeah, see I did go a lot of them were
had. Three of my five were the second Wosmith Phase two so I wrote
so, I wrote down, I wrote down Living on an Edge, not
in my top five, that is my favorite. So it was your number
one. That's my favorite Phase two Aerosmith song. It feels like it's got
a seventies They feel like they threw back on that one because the way he's
screaming and shit in it and stuff. There's nothing hokey, there's nothing goofy
about it. It's just a really really good song. Yeah, not good
enough to be in my top five, but definitely from their MTV era moving
forward to present, I think that's the best thing that they wrote for sure.
Um So when I got into Arrow, you know, my sister comes
up all the time on this podcast and how she just that three year difference
was a huge difference musically, and I think with her Columbia Records and tapes
or whatever, she got aeros Smith Rock and a Hard Place, which was
not a good time for Aerosmith. Joe Perry is not in the band.
There's a guy in the band that Joe Perry thanks in the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame. Induction ceremony, thanks him for you know, like filling
in and quitting or doing whatever. Somehow how Tyler and Perry got back together,
but from that album, which was a horrible album. The only thing
worse is Done with Mirrors after that, but there's a song on there called
When the Lightning Strikes, and that was my introduction to Aerosmith. You know,
I'm sure classic rock who was you know, was playing some stuff and
dream On was on, and I'm sure I heard of Aerosmith, But listening
to a song over and over again When the Lightning Strikes off of that album,
it's amazing, and it's it's bad because there's no Joe Perry on it.
So that's my number five. My number four is Toys in the Attic,
the title track. Really absolutely love Toys in the Attic and the chant,
the call, the response and all of that, and I think I
think Joe Perry just fucking shreds on that. So that is my number four.
My number three is Sweet Emotion. Yeah, again for everything that you
said and that I said, I think that song just the sound of it,
it just I don't think it sounds old. I don't think it sounds
like an old song. It's really weird to me. And the one thing
that is different about that song is Tyler doesn't go up to that high register
in sweet Emotion. He just sings it. Yep. Normally he likes to
flex and show you where he can do and yea God and doing all that
shit, and he doesn't do that on that song. And don't get me
wrong, I like when Tyler does that. I like him stretching his voice.
He's got an amazing voice, but he doesn't do it on that song.
And I think that's one of the reasons why I really like it too,
because it sounds different sweet emotion then uh Kings and Queen's in at two
from Draw the Line and my number one all time favorite, which they still
do live every show. Lord of the Thighs. Yeah, my absolute favorite
Aerosmith song nineteen seventy four from Get Your Wings, Um. Lord of the
Thighs is just the fucking groove of that song. I don't know that it
was released as a single, but I think they play it every live show.
I think it's a it's a staple in their live set. Fun fact
the Breeders Cannonball, I know you know that song yeah, play it.
The B side is a cover of Lord of the Flies. No way,
I'm talking about a real B side to the forty five, right, Yeah,
they did it. They did a cover of it. So they do
a pretty good cover of that song. Yeah. Back in the day.
See, Aerosmith had the whole package that when you think about it, man,
they had They had all of it, man, And then they had
the great logo, you know that the wings and shit and the A and
stuff, and I mean they just had the whole thing. Um. What
I wanted to bring up was their second phase. They were one of those
bands that kind of slid through and was still getting a lot of airplay,
mostly because of MTV. You know, Get a Grip was ninety three?
What the fun was going on in nineteen ninety three? What we've talked about
to death on this podcast is grunge ninety one gets going, you know.
But there were still some of those bands, like Van Halen had an album
that was out still being played on the radio. Their four Unlawful Cardinal Knowledge
album came out I believe in ninety one. Maybe this was being played so
you still this wasn't the end game, you know what I mean? The
Aerosmith was still getting through. But then after that, I think that was
it. After Get a Grip, I think that was that was kind of
where that fell off for them. As far as airplay, they had achieved,
but they had achieved a level that they were they could just stay there.
They you know, they were they were going to play arenas moving forward.
After the success Permanent Vacation, Pump and what you said, Yea,
then that solidified they don't have to do anything else. They're they're going to
play arenas forever. That was it. They didn't need that's it. They
had already done enough. Their catalog was just stupid, and they were already
one of the great American rock bands of all time. The best come the
greatest comeback ever, you know, because it's just the best comeback ever.
I mean, I know that people are gonna say, well, what do
you think about you know, the transition from Roth to Sammy Hagar. It
wasn't come back. It was a different thing. It was a different thing.
It was a different singer. And that needs to be said about Aerosmith.
Except for right now with Joey Kramer being out, that band has stayed
together. I talked about you know, Joe Perry left the Joe Perry Project.
Stuff I didn't I couldn't get into. I did pick a song from
Rock in a Hard Place. But think about that original lineup. That's everybody
in the bay. They're all original members. They figured it out somehow.
That's insane. Yeah, that's insanity that you know, from the bass player
to the rhythm guitar player to the main guitar cup everybody, they're all original
players. You know. They played jazz Fest a few years ago and my
son was with us and I said, dude, I said, you're about
to see a clinic on how fucking rock and roll is done. I said,
You're about to see a goddamn clinic. He's like, what do you
mean. I go just watch. I go, just fucking watch. How
unbelievably cool these guys are. It's hard to get. I don't love Aerosmith,
but there was a moment in time and I think, I don't know
if it was dream On, I don't know. He starts off with the
piano. I forget which song it was. They bring out this huge white
piano way to the front of the stage and Tyler's sitting down playing it and
he's singing, and then it kicks in and fucking Joe Perry comes walking out,
steps up on top of the fucking piano and just shreds the solo,
hair blowing, fucking gold chains and scars. And I'm just sitting there going
like that. That is about as cool as you're ever gonna fucking see it
done right there? Yeah, I mean so fucking cool. Slash after he
gets done. After Slash gets done with November Rain and he walks up and
steps on the piano when that song's over, he should go to the side
of the stage and fucking make out a check to Joe Perry mail it to
him. Every time he steps on top of that piano. He should send
a check to fucking Joe Perry. You're right. I never thought of that,
you're right, But Joe Perry. He worships Joe Perry. Like I
said, I think the Rocks album, which is why we're doing this.
We're celebrating what forty some years of the Rocks album nineteen seventy six. They
released Rocks so forty seven years ago today, and I know that I've heard
Slash say that that was one of his formative albums. So they just influenced
everybody. They influenced everybody. Yeah, and one of my favorite Saturday Live
moments of all time was the Wayne's World and they worshiped with Aerosmith showed up
and you've probably remember seeing it, and Tom Hanks was on that episode and
he was their roadie and he's setting up and the whole band ends up in
the basement with Wayne and Garth and I just remember watching it that night,
going, holy fuck, this is unbelievable because that's what Wayne's World were at
their peak. Powers Errol Smith was back. It was like the coolest shit
that ever happened. Tom Hanks is the roadie. He gets on the mic
and he's like check check sibilants, sibilants one. Two. He says,
sibilants sibilants. It says the mic. It's the funniest fucking thing ever.
It's one of the great all time moments on Saturday Night Live way because you're
like, you know, if you're a Wayne's World fan, you wanted that
to show up every week, and when it did, you were excited,
but you knew they always wanted Arrowsmith. When Aerosmith walked down those fucking steps,
and that shitty basement. You're just like, oh, like you've felt
it. You felt it for those guys, You're like, no way.
So yeah, Errol Smith again not my favorite band, but a clinic when
they're on stage, and I'm hoping they pull it off on this tour.
I hope it really goes well for him because I want to see even go
out big. You know, they're playing Dallas, they're playing Austin, they're
playing San Antonio. Jesus, They're not Houston. They're not playing Houston.
How I don't know. Their drummer is from Houston. The guy that's filling
in the drum tech, he's from Houston. Again, they're not gonna play
it because of him. They're not gonna just come here, but they're not
playing here. It's infuriating to me, you know, because I want to.
I do want to see him one last time. Stephen Tyler is fucking
seventy five years old, seventy five, can still fucking sing his ass off
and still can move around. Um, just the elephant in the room right
now, they're Stairway to Heaven his dream on. Neither one of us had
it in the top five. It's a fucking amazing song. It's an amazing
song, It's great. Why is it not on either one of our top
five lists? Did? I work classic for many many, many many years,
and it's one of those things it's just I cannot It's just been beaten
into my DNA and I'm like, I can't, I can't, I can't
do it. It's like eating one of the egg of cookies. You don't
want to eat those fucking favorite cookies after a while, you know. Maybe
my favorite top five lists in the history of this podcast was best closing songs
in a movie, And the one that we both missed was Miracle. The
Miracle on Ice movie yea, and the closing credits where they show the guy
and who played him in the movie and they're playing and they're playing dream on
and the closing credits and it's one of the best fucking closers ever, And
neither one of us handed on our list. No, why would we do?
And it just still I didn't put it in my top five. It's
Stairway to Heaven. Yeah, it's It's America's Stairway to Heaven. Yeah,
that's a good one. That that is true. That is I would agree
with that. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, we should do a We should really
do a top five. Maybe we have. I'll have to go back and
check our notes, but a top five frontmen, I don't know if we've
done that one, you know what I mean? A top five frontmen of
all time would be a beating because we would there would be a four hour
podcast. You gotta ask Jordan Welch in the Machine Hill. Now we have
to take that his spreadsheets out, I guess and get all that straight now.
But anyway, Yeah, no, that was good. I have to
I'm gonna spend some time listening to Marroosmith this week for sure. Now that's
what I wrote down. I wrote down Angel crying amazing, don't want to
miss a thing one song. Yeah, but I do like Angel. I
always liked that song. It was always cool. But you're right, they're
all basically the same song. It's one song to me. They've got in
the ballot, but they were, they were still playing the formula. They're
still doing the formula. Gotta have the ballot. You gotta have the song
where the chicks are going to show up to the concert, then the dude
show up and everybody makes a ton of money, so they were still following
the game, Rod, I think we wrap this thing up, man.
Any final thoughts, yes, if anybody is still listening, my gift to
you, my final thoughts is google Stephen Tyler's feet. Oh no, no,
don't do that. There you go it. That's it. That's it.
That's my gift to you today. If you're still listening, google Steven
Tyler's feet, Okay, and then maybe you'll understand a little bit better why
this is going to be their last fucking tour. He's got some feat there
could be we could almost do our own version of the reaction videos to the
two girls one Cup. Remember that video and then the thing that came out
after that was just videotaping people watching what they were looking at. Yep,
the reaction. I really think we could do a whole series of reactionary videos
of people googling Steven Tyler's feet. Yeah, yeah, he's got elephant man
feet. They're they're gross. It just meant it. That's it. Help
yourself if that's something that you you trust me enough to go and do what
you got For final thoughts, nothing I can tell you what I'm not gonna
do is Google Steven Tyler's feet, just do it. I won't do that.
You know, you want to Enough trauma in my life. I don't
need any more than any Get in there on those toes, looking in between,
getting the goods out of there. Yeah. Hey, check us out
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your top five favorite Arrowsmith tunes. Um. Yeah, I love hearing people
chiming because then I'll go, oh, I didn't remember that. When I'll
go and listen to it and tell you. Man, I I've said in
a thousand times, but I love doing this podcast for the sure fact that
it's selfish for me. I get to go discover songs I didn't know about.
You know what I mean. It's it's really on that way, like
you bring up some and sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Still stuck
on Harry Styles. I actually heard the song the other day and I was
like, God, damn it, Rod, Thanks Rod, Thanks Rod.
Like I'm I'm a little bit sweet on old Harry Man. Now he was
somebody I would go see. I would like to see him perform. I
think Harry be great. Yeah, it's a million dollars a ticket. It's
one million dollars per ticket to go see that fuck face perform live. Hey,
you'd be nice to Harold. He's got to buy those ones. He's
suits, he wears diamonds on him. So anyway, dude, all right,
well we'll talk for episode eighty five somewhere in the future. By everybody,
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